[00:40] <jbicha> let's hope this gtk upload goes smoother than last time
[03:42] <Bezukhov> Does Ubuntu Gnome use Nautilus as a file manager?
[03:58] <bjsnider> of course
[03:58] <bjsnider> what else would it use?
[04:19] <Bezukhov> For some reason thought it used something different. Tnx
[04:19] <roasted> you can install others if you wish
[04:19] <roasted> I had nemo running for a while, as an example
[04:20] <Bezukhov> I don't.. In my limited experience Truecrypt doesn
[04:21] <Bezukhov> 't play well with any thing else
[04:22] <Bezukhov> Damn keyboard froze
[06:57] <darkxst> ricotz, why are the webkit dbg packages so massive (amd64 only)?
[06:59] <darkxst>  libwebkit2gtk-3.0-25-dbg_2.0.3-1ubuntu1~build1_amd64.deb (1.2 GiB)
[06:59] <darkxst> libwebkit2gtk-3.0-25-dbg_2.0.3-1ubuntu1~build1_i386.deb (2.0 MiB)
[14:33] <Ubyscooby> Getting Alpha 1 nooooooooow
[14:34] <Ubyscooby> Have they fixed Nautilus so it stops closing on us
[14:35] <Ubyscooby> Heeeeellllooooooo.....
[14:36] <Ubyscooby> Have they fixed Nautilus so it stops from closing randomly?? Anybody know?
[14:37] <roasted> I never had it closing on me...
[14:38] <Ubyscooby> I see. Started about 1 month ago. Just started closing after about 10 minutes since it was opened
[14:40] <roasted> I haven't experienced that yet. are you updated?
[14:41] <Ubyscooby> yes I do all updates... I will see hoe Alpha 1 is going after it downloads
[14:41] <roasted> isn't alpha 2 out now?
[14:41] <Ubyscooby> thanks then roasted...
[14:43] <Ubyscooby> ahhhh im just trying to see if Im gettin A2 or A1
[14:45] <roasted> I would think you could just update it to alpha 2
[14:45] <roasted> I'd check but I'm on my phone
[14:46] <roasted> in the waiting room of a hospital. joy. :-P
[14:46] <Ubyscooby> ok confusion. on the site lots of mention of A1 but no A2. But I see i am getting A2 so all is good
[14:47] <roasted> I think the daily build would be alpha 2
[14:47] <Ubyscooby> ok I see roasted. thanks for your comments
[14:47] <roasted> NP
[21:24] <Zoiaguyver> wow quiet tonight, all must be bug squashing
[21:57] <Srsly> Good Evening everyone
[21:58] <Srsly> I have a serious issue with my freshly installed ubuntu. It does not show a boot menu, just goes straight into ubuntu though I also have windows 8 isntalled
[21:58] <Zoiaguyver> Try holding the shift key when it boots, it should show you the menu then
[21:59] <Srsly> update-grub does not add an entry for windows 8 so I added one in 40_custom, still no menu showing up and I wonder how I can get into grub
[21:59] <Srsly> well I will try shift now
[21:59] <Srsly> though I dont like that.
[21:59] <Zoiaguyver> it should give the boot menu then
[22:01] <Zoiaguyver> Didn't work?
[22:01] <Srsly> well, I've been holding shift from the moment the medion logo appeared up to the login screen
[22:01] <Zoiaguyver> hmm
[22:02] <Srsly> medion bios log, then blue screen, then login screen
[22:02] <Srsly> nothing that amks any sense in beetween
[22:02] <Srsly> I alos tried grub-set-default with no effect
[22:03] <Zoiaguyver> I just normally keep tapping it soon as the bios appears, not sure what to suggest if you have already done a grub update, you could edit the grub.conf and set the timeout to -1, that would be the only other thing i could suggest
[22:04] <Srsly> -1 means forever?
[22:04] <Zoiaguyver> basically means until you select something
[22:05] <Zoiaguyver> just make sure if you do any changes to the grub.conf to run update-grub after or the changes don't normally take effect
[22:05] <Srsly> trying right now
[22:05] <Srsly> what
[22:05] <Srsly> update-grub surely overwrites grub.cfg
[22:05] <Srsly> so I eitehr change grub.cfg OR run update-grub
[22:05] <Srsly> unless I do it in the 00_header configfile
[22:06] <Srsly> whatever, trying right now
[22:06] <Zoiaguyver> na update-grub just regenerates the file afaik it used to create a new one with the original grub i think
[22:16] <Srsly> So
[22:16] <Srsly> it worked
[22:17] <Srsly> apparently a timeout=10 has no effect when tehre is a HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 in /etc/default/grub
[22:17] <Srsly> and I need to hit esc to get into grub
[22:17] <Zoiaguyver> ahh
[22:17] <Srsly> I actually set the HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=3 now
[22:17] <Srsly> and the HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=false
[22:17] <Zoiaguyver> Well atleast you fixed it :)
[22:18] <Srsly> indeed
[22:18] <Srsly> made windows 8 default again
[22:18] <Srsly> so all is as before with ubuntu available when wanted
[22:18] <Zoiaguyver> Good, good
[22:19] <Srsly> so thanks Zoiaguyver
[22:20] <Zoiaguyver> No problem, glad I could help
[22:30] <darkxst> jbicha, there seems to be something strange with the webkit -dbg packages ? They are massive on amd64 but not i386
[22:48] <jbicha> darkxst: yeah but maybe that will be fixed with the next Debian upload
[22:49] <jbicha> http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-webkit/webkit.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a777
[23:03] <fds_> yo man
[23:03] <fds_> what is linux?
[23:04] <fds_> can i install linux on microsoft office?