[00:00] <monsterco> multiHYP ?
[00:01] <multiHYP> yes, answer to your question was vnc under *nix is the equivalent of remote desktop on windows.
[00:02] <Loshki> multiHYP: vnc works 'on top of' X11, so unless/until you get the X11 server working, vnc won't work...
[00:02] <multiHYP> remote apps <- i dunno what that might be.
[00:02] <multiHYP> Loshki: X11 would be installed via ubuntu-desktop though, right?
[00:04] <monsterco> multiHYP - yeah, not Remote Desktop but rather RemoteApps. and all end users are windows clients
[00:04] <monsterco> you think I can at least use Ubuntu for as AD/DC?
[00:04] <jhutchins> Yeah, well, I gave him the docs on how to run a remote desktop over ssh, he apparently wants something else.  Not going to get far with an attitude.
[00:04] <k1l_> monsterco: take a look at ssh -X option
[00:04] <ggabriel96> hey guys!
[00:05] <Loshki> multiHYP: yes, X11 should be installed via ubuntu-desktop. And it should just work 'out of the box'. But you have 2 problems: using an EOL release means if you've found a bug, it may never be fixed, and 2) you're messing with a production machine and you don't even have a backup. I've fired sysadmins for less...
[00:05] <multiHYP> jhutchins: sorry, really cannot explain the issue for you.
[00:05] <ggabriel96> do u guys know how i can uninstall a web app, and then install it again? XD
[00:05] <multiHYP> Loshki: its my own, so no biggy
[00:06] <Loshki> multiHYP: ok then, back to reinstalling ubuntu-desktop and hoping it works this time then...
[00:06] <multiHYP> no way
[00:06] <multiHYP> i give up and find some other bypassing method to go through the filters.
[00:08] <Loshki> multiHYP: I'm only talking about running 'apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop'. Seems to me you've not much to lose...
[00:08] <multiHYP> space, running out of it pretty soon
[00:08] <multiHYP> 10GB total
[00:09] <multiHYP> I leave, might come back later...
[00:09] <multiHYP> cheers Loshki
[00:09] <Loshki> multiHYP: best of luck...
[00:09] <ggabriel96> anyone?
[00:09] <Loshki> ggabriel96: which app?
[00:10] <ggabriel96> Rdio
[00:10] <ggabriel96> i think it didnt install correctly, because steam was updating simultaneously
[00:10] <ggabriel96> i mean, at the same time xD
[00:11] <Loshki> ggabriel96: you should be able to reinstall it. How did you install it in the first place?
[00:11] <ggabriel96> i just went to rdio.com and it offered to install
[00:11] <ggabriel96> i simply hit yes
[00:13] <Loshki> ggabriel96: what OS/version are you running?
[00:13] <ggabriel96> ubuntu 13.04
[00:14] <Loshki> ggabriel96: it's a web app? Runs in a browser?
[00:14] <ggabriel96> yes
[00:15] <ggabriel96> i right-click it but it doesnt show the uninstall option
[00:15] <ggabriel96> just like the web app for livemail
[00:17] <Loshki> ggabriel96: sorry, I don't know much about web apps. You may have to ask on a browser channel. Does this help: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2013/04/get-rdio-app-in-ubuntu-13-04-and-listen-to-online-music/
[00:17] <whoever> hi all anyone here running xmonad  in gnome, if so need some help getting xmonad to start in gnome
[00:18] <ggabriel96> i'll take a look
[00:18] <histo> whoever: which version of gnome?
[00:18] <ggabriel96> thank u anyways Loshki
[00:18] <histo> whoever: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Xmonad/Using_xmonad_in_Gnome
[00:18] <whoever> i have xmonad installed and to test i am using xmond --replace but when i do i loose gnome-panel and can't do anything
[00:19] <whoever> histo: was 3 now am on clasic
[00:19] <histo> whoever: there are direction on the page I sent you for using it in ubuntu with gnome
[00:20] <whoever> histo: i did 2.5 and stil I have that prob
[00:20] <whoever> histo: also xmonad doesn't seem to start at login with the [Desktop]
[00:20] <Stavros> hello
[00:21] <histo> whoever: did you read the site I sent you ?
[00:21] <Stavros> is there a simpler way to achieve unionfs-style directory aggregation?
[00:21] <whoever> histo: yes i followd that before comming here
[00:22] <histo> whoever: you may get more help in #xmonad
[00:32] <qmr197> When building a low-power Ubuntu system and using integrated graphics, is it better to go with Intel or AMD? Or is there no difference?
[00:33] <dr_willis> id say intel
[00:33] <dr_willis> video and gpu wise
[00:34] <Shadowandlight> im using VM and 13.04.... it runs a little slower then id expect in the GUI
[00:34] <qmr197> I've heard that Intel integrated graphics drivers are open source, but I'm not sure about AMD.
[00:34] <Shadowandlight> is there any drivers that i need to install?
[00:34] <dr_willis> Shadowandlight:  the guest addations  for the vm you are using perhaps
[00:35] <dr_willis> !vbox
[00:35] <cynicist> qmr197: there are open source drivers for radeon gpus as well as intel
[00:36] <qmr197> cynicist: I see. Do they work as well as the Intel drivers, though?
[00:36] <dr_willis> qmr197: depends on tge exact chipset
[00:36] <qmr197> I read that there are some issues with those drivers, but I'm not sure.
[00:37] <cynicist> qmr197:  I would say the intel drivers are better but radeon is quickly catching up
[00:37] <dr_willis> if buying new hardware id say stick to intel
[00:37] <qmr197> I don't play any games, so I'm leaning towards using integrated graphics.
[00:37] <dr_willis> unless you need the gpu power
[00:37] <cynicist> qmr197: for example there are changes in the latest kernel that add power management support to amd apus that drastically decrease power consumption and increase performance, see here for an article on it: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_radeon_dpm&num=1
[00:38] <cynicist> qmr197: that support may not be enabled by default in the next ubuntu release but definitely the one after
[00:38] <qmr197> cynicist: Thanks, I'll look into that.
[00:38] <martin1989> hello there
[00:38] <martin1989> does someone use softphone "Ekiga"?
[00:39] <dr_willis> ask the real question and see  martin1989
[00:40] <qmr197> But compatibility-wise, do the Intel IGP drivers work better than the AMD integrated graphics drivers?
[00:41] <dr_willis> compatible with what? .. id say intel drivers are less likely to be a problem
[00:41] <cynicist> qmr197: you would have to be more specific about which apu you will be using
[00:41] <dr_willis> avoid those dual.gpu setups also
[00:42] <cynicist> qmr197: in general though, intel has better support simply because they have less gpus they need to support and have had their open source driver for longer
[00:42] <dr_willis> for the least issues  stixk to chipsets that have ben out for a while..6 plus months
[00:44] <cynicist> qmr197: I would say in general that intel will give you lower power consumption but you will have higher graphical performance from amd
[00:45] <dark_> ok
[00:45] <qmr197> dr_willis, cynicist: Thanks. I was thinking of some of the more affordable CPUs such as the intel g860 or the AMD equivalents.
[00:47] <dr_willis> i dont even keep tradk of whats new in the video chipset area these days. i dont plan on buying a new pc or laptop any time soon. ;)
[00:48] <dr_willis> gotta love linux's abilty to work well with older hardware.
[00:48] <gethenian> yes, dr_willis, it's good for that
[00:48] <dr_willis> might get me a chromebook at xmas. but its hard to justify one. when i got my tablets  ;) except for the feature to turn the chromebook into a ubuntu-book  ;)
[00:48] <cynicist> qmr197: if you are looking for cheaper parts I would definitely recommend AMD, they have the performance/$ crown atm for integrated gpu solutions
[00:49] <cynicist> qmr197: I would only suggest intel if you are going for the best cpu performance possible
[00:50]  * dr_willis wonders what the price premium is for that.. $30 range? $50 range.?
[00:50] <qmr197> cynicist: I see. Although I'm somewhat more concerned with power consumption, though.
[00:50] <dr_willis> is iit worth the extra $50 to go intel and have no hassles.
[00:50] <dr_willis> qmr197:  why is that an issue/
[00:50] <cynicist> dr_willis: the chromebook is seriously tempting (especially since macbook airs don't play well with linux), but I'll wait for it to have support for 802.11ac
[00:51] <qmr197> dr_willis: I live in an area with a very unstable power and have to use backup power.
[00:51] <dr_willis> cynicist:  yea. but then i have to upgrade my router.. i just bought a ddwrt ($50) router. that dosent have ac. :)  but neither does anything else in my house.
[00:51] <dr_willis> qmr197:  raspberry pi - uses like 1W  ;P   but it cant run ubuntu.
[00:52] <dr_willis> i wonder how many W's the chromebook uses.
[00:52] <dr_willis> qmr197:  so you expect to be on battery for a laptop for a long time? or whatr exactly
[00:52] <gethenian> does it look like linux will make it to the pi anytime soon?
[00:52] <dr_willis> gethenian:  it does run linux. ;)
[00:52] <dr_willis> just not ubuntu
[00:53] <dr_willis> ubuntu needs a newer arm cpu then whata the pi has.
[00:53] <qin> dr_willis: Debian?
[00:53] <gethenian> ubuntu won't rn on my old thinkpad either
[00:53] <qmr197> dr_willis: It depends on the day.
[00:53] <dr_willis> qin:  that would be rasbian ;) yes it works well
[00:54] <dr_willis> qmr197:  i imagine intel video/cpu/wifi will have better power optimazations then amd.  since they tend to take linux more seriously.
[00:54] <c2tarun> Hi friends, I use two cloud services for syncing data across my various devices. One is dropbox and Other is Ubuntu One. But these applications always running in background drain my laptop's battery. I want to schedule tasks that sometime on weekends (when I am safely at home's wi-fi) dropbox and ubuntu one automatically starts and do the necessary syncing. Can anyone please point me in the right direction from where to start?
[00:55] <c2tarun> dr_willis, really? I thought AMD takes linux more seriously, after all they make graphics drivers for linux :)
[00:55] <qin> c2tarun: kill/start/kill with cron?
[00:55] <dr_willis> c2tarun:  you are thinking of the S3  gpu company. ;P
[00:55] <cynicist> dr_willis: here is a graphic comparing power efficiency between the two, http://www.hardware.fr/medias/photos_news/00/41/IMG0041609.png
[00:55] <gethenian> for power optimizations, youd need to look at the specs for what you are considering buying
[00:56] <dr_willis> buy some big car batteries and a dc-ac converter.. ;)
[00:56] <dr_willis> and some solar cells
[00:56] <c2tarun> qin, okay, I'll look into cron, thanks :)
[00:56] <veryhappy> hi guys, someone please give me advice to cygwin vs colinux vs andlinux/speedlinux and help me find a way a way to install or redirect me to another channel. thanks
[00:57] <dr_willis> veryhappy:  check whoch ones are still being actively developed. im not sure any of those are still that active.
[00:57] <dr_willis> cygwin is a very differnet solution then  andlinux,  .. i cant recall trying colinux or speedlinux.
[00:57] <veryhappy> dr_willis: that was pretty fast.
[00:58] <dr_willis> is cygwin still being developed? ive not messed with it in years.
[00:58] <veryhappy> colinux shall be cooperative linux with windows
[00:58] <dr_willis> andlinux - last i used it was 32bit only..  but that was years ago.
[00:59] <dr_willis> or just run any disrto you linke in virtualbox. ;)
[00:59] <dr_willis> like.
[00:59] <reisio> veryhappy: like, what is it you're trying to accomplish?
[00:59] <veryhappy> dr_willis: you might not know it: virtual != systems like colinux or cygwin
[01:00] <dr_willis> veryhappy:  and andlinux was running in some vm last i looked.   (qemu?)
[01:00] <veryhappy> reisio: running chosen services for linux in windows a "quite native way"
[01:00] <reisio> veryhappy: which ones? :p
[01:00] <veryhappy> andlinux was built on colinux
[01:00] <dr_willis> bottom line i would say is see which ones are still being actively developed and supported.
[01:01] <veryhappy> reisio: curious :D squid and cups perhaps i don't know which one next
[01:01] <cynicist> qmr197: hey I'm just curious what is the price range you are looking at?
[01:01] <reisio> weird :p
[01:01] <veryhappy> weird thanks luv u 2 :P
[01:02] <riceandbeans> how would you compare ubuntu against debian?
[01:02] <qin> veryhappy: wouldnt be more practical to run something netively on linux?
[01:02] <dr_willis> riceandbeans:  like a   goldwing, vs a build-your-own-motorcycle
[01:02] <reisio> ...
[01:02] <qin> riceandbeans: good
[01:02] <riceandbeans> dr_willis: no idea what that means
[01:02] <veryhappy> qin: please no advice from you. thanks.
[01:02] <t0ken> hey0, is there a tool to find the fastest/closest package mirror...from the cli?
[01:03] <reisio> riceandbeans: Debian has three branches of stability: unstable, more stable, actually stable
[01:03] <gethenian> debian doesn't abosultely require more thought to install, but it's advisable.
[01:03] <stairmast0r> i've installed the proprietary AMD graphics drivers, and now (still) the system seems to only be recognizing my onboard graphics (radeon HD6530) and not my discrete (HD6570)
[01:03] <reisio> riceandbeans: it doesn't use Unity or compiz by default
[01:03] <riceandbeans> reisio: this will be for a server
[01:03] <riceandbeans> no X11
[01:03] <dr_willis> riceandbeans:  you may want to be a bit more clear on what  you rare going to be doing with the system and what parts you are interest3ed in
[01:03] <reisio> riceandbeans: Debian is more appropriate for a server, IMO
[01:03] <qmr197> cynicist: Somewhere around 100 dollars. I was also looking at the i3-3225, because that one has the HD 4000 graphics.
[01:03] <dr_willis> riceandbeans:  what kind of server? and whats yur level of linux experience
[01:04] <usr13> dr_willis: Hands down, build-your-own is better. (In both cases.)
[01:04] <riceandbeans> dr_willis: I've been using debian since 3.0
[01:04] <reisio> it's not build your own...
[01:04] <dr_willis> riceandbeans:  then you should have no problems with ubuntu.
[01:04] <reisio> you should really have some kind of reason for switching distros
[01:04] <reisio> or you're wasting your time
[01:04] <dr_willis> riceandbeans:  so it will be a 'do you want the latest stuff' rolling release. vs a non-rolling release (ubuntu)
[01:04] <riceandbeans> reisio: not switching, just their docs mention supporting specifically ubuntu
[01:05] <gethenian> if you want no X, maybe centos?
[01:05] <riceandbeans> docs for a product I'm evaluating
[01:05] <cynicist> qmr197: that's funny because that's exactly what I was going to recommend
[01:05] <reisio> dr_willis: what're you comparing there?
[01:05] <reisio> riceandbeans: whose?
[01:05] <riceandbeans> 'certified' on ubuntu
[01:05] <reisio> riceandbeans: ah
[01:05] <cynicist> qmr197: I had considered haswell but those are substantially more expensive and ivy bridge graphics performance is really good
[01:05] <reisio> riceandbeans: and they don't mention Debian?
[01:05] <riceandbeans> reisio: nope
[01:05] <reisio> riceandbeans: really if it works on any distro at all, it can be made to work on any other
[01:05] <reisio> riceandbeans: Debian and Ubuntu are even closer than most two random distros
[01:05] <reisio> so I wouldn't worry about it
[01:06] <veryhappy> i think i'll take colinux but someone give me any hint?
[01:06] <veryhappy> please
[01:06] <dr_willis> i have to wonder how they got software 'certified' on ubuntu.
[01:06] <reisio> veryhappy: I don't know what you're trying to do yet
[01:06] <reisio> dr_willis: printers :p
[01:06] <veryhappy> reisio: i want to install colinux on windows
[01:06] <dr_willis> veryhappy:  you will have to try it and decide for your self.
[01:06] <reisio> veryhappy: well that pretty much sums it up
[01:06] <veryhappy> dr_willis: but first off i don't know if i should use xml or cofs and how to use it
[01:07] <dr_willis> veryhappy:  you dont know how to use colinux?  hmm. id think it has a homepage with some docs and guides.
[01:08] <dr_willis> its not really a ubuntu support question. but id also bet theres a #colinux channel
[01:08] <veryhappy> yea but i was looking last night and i didn't know where to insert the cofs parameters it always said "kernel problem"
[01:08] <veryhappy> dr_willis: good, dude, that's good. i'll try it
[01:08] <veryhappy> npe
[01:08] <veryhappy> nope, 1 guy is in there: me
[01:08] <dr_willis> !alis | veryhappy
[01:08] <veryhappy> plus the chanserv :D
[01:09] <stairmast0r> nobody knows about radeons on ubuntu?
[01:09] <veryhappy> nothing shows up
[01:09] <gethenian> radeons run on linux in general
[01:09] <stairmast0r> i have two radeons
[01:09] <stairmast0r> and ubuntu is only using one
[01:10] <stairmast0r> but lspci tells me about the second one being there
[01:10] <veryhappy> gethenian: aren't radeons the graphics cards?
[01:10] <stairmast0r> veryhappy: yes
[01:10] <gethenian> yes
[01:10] <veryhappy> how can they run linux?
[01:10] <veryhappy> gethenian: a graphics card running linux?
[01:10] <stairmast0r> radeons on ubuntu.. not ubuntu on radeons...
[01:10] <dr_willis> i think we need more details of what you are doing and what its not doing.
[01:10] <Ari-Yang> stairmast0r, what's the problem?
[01:10] <veryhappy> ok
[01:10] <qin> stairmast0r: You mean you pinned two cards? Maybe try to test them one by one?
[01:10] <stairmast0r> "pinned"?
[01:11] <veryhappy> dr_willis: do you mean me?
[01:11] <qin> stairmast0r: well, put into slots..
[01:11] <stairmast0r> one is onboard, the other is a card
[01:11] <stairmast0r> only the onboard one is being used
[01:11] <dr_willis> veryhappy:  well colinux is not ubuntu, or really relartrd to ubuntu support.. so ive not been paying much attention to you  ;P
[01:12] <qin> stairmast0r: so which one is working, and what `lshw` have to say
[01:12] <dr_willis> veryhappy:  the colinux web site might point to where they may have a more active irc channel. on some other irc server
[01:12] <veryhappy> dr_willis: well thank you really much ... :D
[01:12] <veryhappy> yea
[01:13] <dr_willis> im still not clear why you need colinux to run those services.  ;)
[01:13] <qin> dr_willis: would you pass the link to him? http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?chat=colinux
[01:14] <gethenian> stairmaster, can you use both of them under any OS?
[01:14] <veryhappy> once again i represented myself being stupid. one look would have pointed me already to oftc
[01:14] <veryhappy> ok thanks guys, i'll look there.
[01:14] <ggabriel96> hey guys
[01:15] <veryhappy> take care you guys.
[01:15] <stairmast0r> gethenian: windows, yeah
[01:15] <stairmast0r> i only want to use the discrete card.  the onboard can just sit there for now
[01:16] <ggabriel96> i was installing some programs with software center, and i clicked close unconsciously. now it's bugged. what can i do?
[01:16] <ggabriel96> i mean, the progress tab is open, but there's nothing there
[01:16] <dr_willis> http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?chat=colinux
[01:16] <histo> ggabriel96: define "bugged"
[01:17] <gethenian> stairmaster, can you disable the onboard video in the bios?
[01:17] <Shadowandlight> a program i want to install requres libmysqlclient18 but it seems to be an older library...  10.0.3+maria claims to need it though
[01:17] <Shadowandlight> and i need mariadb apparently to run this app
[01:17] <ggabriel96> the progress tab is open, the animation is stuck and there's nothing there (the installation is not being continued)
[01:17] <fleshworm> sud0
[01:18] <fleshworm> no me dejan entrar en utdhck
[01:18] <ggabriel96> oh
[01:18] <fleshworm> que les paso men
[01:18] <ggabriel96> now the progress tab is not open anymore
[01:18] <ggabriel96> just reopened and now the tab reappeared xD
[01:18] <fleshworm> pa completar la web de ubuntu anda bebiendo nyquyl
[01:18] <stairmast0r> gethenian: nope.  sadly.
[01:18] <riceandbeans> so from a debian man
[01:18] <ubuntivity> Hello, I'm trying to download an entire site using wget. How can I determine the total size (in MB) of the site being downloaded?
[01:18] <riceandbeans> in debian you have stable, testing, unstable, experimental
[01:19] <riceandbeans> what do you have in ubuntu?
[01:19] <ggabriel96> i'll try reinstalling the apps i was installing before
[01:19] <fleshworm> sud0 no me acueldo que canal era el que tu jangueba
[01:19] <Extrepid> Hey
[01:19] <reisio> ubuntivity: wget probably has something to get the headers only, which will have the file size
[01:19] <reisio> ubuntivity: curl has
[01:20] <gethenian> stairmaster, are the two radeon chipsets identical or at least close?
[01:20] <Vypor> Derp
[01:20] <Vypor> How is everyone
[01:20] <ggabriel96> hello Vypor
[01:20] <fleshworm> join #ubited_hack
[01:20] <fleshworm> l0lll
[01:21] <ubuntivity> Getting the headers won't save anything, right reisio?
[01:21] <fleshworm> se me jolvido el perioto
[01:21] <ubuntivity> reisio: but what if I use the --recursive option on wget? It examines every link within the HTML, but on headers how will it determine which links to follow??
[01:22] <reisio> ubuntivity: nope
[01:22] <Vypor> Who wants a ring0 rootkit for unbuntu
[01:22] <reisio> ubuntivity: headers aren't files, they're things you get when you request a file
[01:22] <reisio> Vypor: me
[01:22] <Vypor> Ok
[01:22] <Vypor> Pm's
[01:22] <ubuntivity> reisio: what about the links to be followed when --recursive is used?
[01:23] <fleshworm> if ure still using a industrial haf server for a factory object
[01:23] <reisio> ubuntivity: what about them?
[01:24] <ubuntivity> Will wget follow those links if I instruct it to only grab headers?
[01:24] <reisio> ubuntivity: why wouldn't it
[01:24] <t0ken> hey0, is there a tool to find the fastest/closest package mirror...from the cli?
[01:24] <fleshworm> cloack a binary for language recrusive periots then dspl
[01:24] <qin> t0ken: ping?
[01:25] <ubuntivity> If it wasn't getting into every byte of the HTML, how would it know what are the links?
[01:25] <Vypor> Who wants a 0day Gcc exploit for $120
[01:25] <qin> Really?
[01:25] <Vypor> yep
[01:25] <Vypor> im also selling linux roots.
[01:25] <fleshworm> whos said that
[01:25] <fleshworm> l0lll
[01:25] <Vypor> 1 for $1
[01:26] <Vypor> 100 for $100
[01:26] <Vypor> ect..
[01:26] <ubuntivity> Is there any online-tool that crawls the site and determines its total size in MB?
[01:26] <Vypor> ubuntu rotos ate 50mb
[01:26] <Vypor> roots*
[01:26] <Vypor> 50cents*
[01:26] <gethenian> ubuntivity, you could run your own web crawler bot
[01:27] <reisio> ubuntivity: why are you low on space?
[01:27] <fleshworm> some pack wpprs are full disclosed compillers now who knows them\
[01:27] <stairmast0r> gethenian: they're both the same series.  onboard is HD6530, discrete is HD6570
[01:27] <ubuntivity> No reisio, but I want to roughly estimate how long is this process gonna take, it's been relatively long time...
[01:27] <stairmast0r> the latter being "turks", the former being "beavercreek"
[01:28] <fleshworm> is this actually true the ubuntu forums lack pariods compability
[01:28] <fleshworm> ??
[01:28] <fleshworm> periods****
[01:28] <fleshworm> xP
[01:28] <fleshworm> grab a fork
[01:28] <ggabriel96_> hey guyd
[01:28] <ggabriel96_> guys*
[01:28] <reisio> fleshworm: huh?
[01:29] <reisio> ggabriel96_: hi
[01:29] <histo> ubuntivity: is it a site you host?
[01:29] <ggabriel96_> when i boot into ubuntu, a message appear while plymouth loads
[01:29] <ggabriel96_> it says something like cryptswap is not ready
[01:29] <ggabriel96_> something related to crypt something
[01:29] <ubuntivity> No histo, but I site I need to read regularily when I'm offline. Some personal development site.
[01:29] <ggabriel96_> and then i have to wait or manually mount it
[01:29] <martin1989> i have a question about xubuntu
[01:29] <fleshworm> voiP v6 r2
[01:29] <Andras_Bernard> Hello everyone, Andras_Bernardhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:29] <histo> ubuntivity: use wget to create a mirror
[01:30] <Shel_Columbanus> Hello everyone, Shel_Columbanushere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:30] <reisio> ggabriel96_: sounds like encryption overhead
[01:30] <Manuel_Tendai> Hello everyone, Manuel_Tendaihere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:30] <fleshworm> it wasnt bthe web
[01:30] <Aristaeus_Fergus> Hello everyone, Aristaeus_Fergushere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:30] <Jeriah_Pontus> Hello everyone, Jeriah_Pontushere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:30] <qin> ggabriel96_: your enctypted /home, just wait or mount manualy
[01:30] <Shel_Nikola> Hello everyone, Shel_Nikolahere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:30] <ggabriel96_> reisio, overhead?
[01:30] <Seegee_> http=100|http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:30] <Shel_Columbanus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:30] <Shel_Nikola> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:30] <Jeriah_Pontus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:30] <Manuel_Tendai> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:30] <Andras_Bernard> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:30] <Aristaeus_Fergus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:30] <reisio> really, you're ready to run someone else's simple script?
[01:30] <reisio> that's amazing
[01:30] <ggabriel96_> qin: yes i have encrypted home
[01:30] <martin1989> how could i do that aplications starts automatically when i start xubuntu 12.04?
[01:30] <Seegee_> http=100|http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:30] <Jeriah_Pontus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:30] <Andras_Bernard> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:30] <Shel_Columbanus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:30] <Aristaeus_Fergus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:30] <Sir-Litepool> wow you are amazing
[01:31] <reisio> !ops spam
[01:31] <Sir-Litepool> a++
[01:31] <Shel_Nikola> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:31] <Seegee_> wait
[01:31] <Shel_Columbanus> All floods killed
[01:31] <Jeriah_Pontus> All floods killed
[01:31] <reisio> bah, there's no !ops here? :p
[01:31] <ubuntivity> What are shose flood posts?!
[01:31] <Aristaeus_Fergus> All floods killed
[01:31] <fleshworm> donDE eshtara SUD0
[01:31] <Shel_Nikola> All floods killed
[01:31] <Vypor> LOL ITS DOWN.
[01:31] <Halyard>   !op
[01:31] <Seegee_> http=100|http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:31] <Shel_Columbanus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:31] <Jeriah_Pontus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:31] <Aristaeus_Fergus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:31] <Andras_Bernard> All floods killed
[01:31] <Seegee_> http=100|http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:31] <Shel_Columbanus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:31] <Aristaeus_Fergus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:31] <ubuntivity> reisio: I thought you are one!
[01:31] <Jeriah_Pontus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:31] <Seegee_> http=100|http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:31] <Aristaeus_Fergus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:31] <FloodBot1> Seegee_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:31] <Shel_Columbanus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:31] <Jeriah_Pontus> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:31] <Shel_Nikola> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:31] <Shel_Nikola> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:31] <FloodBot1> Jeriah_Pontus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:31] <reisio> Halyard: why's it work when you do it :p
[01:31] <FloodBot1> Shel_Nikola: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:31] <ggabriel96_> is that normal?
[01:32] <histo> !ops
[01:32] <FloodBot1> Andras_Bernard: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:32] <ubuntivity> reisio: What is going on here? I'm getting really scared :/
[01:32] <reisio> ubuntivity: nothing, just bored kids
[01:32] <Sir-Litepool> nothing ubuntivity, notified opertors some kid got too high and bored
[01:32] <cynicist> just a script kiddie, nothing to see here :P
[01:33] <ubuntivity> Are all of those usernames belong to a single person?
[01:33] <mountain> did they even protect them?
[01:33] <mountain> http=100|http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:33] <reisio> depends on how you define person
[01:33] <mountain> They protected it xD
[01:33] <ggabriel96_> reisio, is that normal?
[01:33] <reisio> ggabriel96_: is what normal?
[01:33] <Sir-Litepool> the forum is working anyway, ddos my ass
[01:33] <ubuntivity> I mean they are all 'virtual' persons on a single PC?
[01:33] <ggabriel96_> that crypt thing on plymouth
[01:33] <Sir-Litepool> anyway lets not go off topic
[01:33] <reisio> ubuntivity: probably
[01:34] <histo> ubuntivity: multiple pcs/ips most likely
[01:34] <reisio> controlled from one
[01:34] <histo> yeap
[01:34] <ubuntivity> And why do they DoS from IRC? How does that work??
[01:34] <mountain> you send a command
[01:34] <histo> ubuntivity: it doesn't
[01:34] <reisio> ubuntivity: they're just on IRC for the lulz
[01:34] <mountain> in the irc
[01:34] <Sir-Litepool> he is just showing off
[01:34] <ggabriel96_> reisio, that crypt thing on plymouth
[01:34] <mountain> and they parse it as a cmd
[01:34] <Sir-Litepool> pasting shit places like he usually does
[01:34] <reisio> ggabriel96_: oh, probably, what'd it say exactly, again?
[01:34] <IdleOne> Show is over folks :) Thanks for flying AirBuntu
[01:34] <fleshworm> nkploit
[01:34] <IdleOne> Sir-Litepool: no swearing please
[01:34] <Sir-Litepool> ok
[01:35] <ggabriel96_> reisio, that the partition is not ready. wait or mount manually
[01:35] <ubuntivity> So, they try to over-flow this channel, right?
[01:35] <reisio> IdleOne: you didn't... miss some?
[01:35] <mountain> no they are trying to flood a site
[01:35] <ubuntivity> It was a nice flight IdleOne :)
[01:35] <reisio> not that it really matters
[01:35] <ggabriel96_> reisio, and i have a encrypted home folder
[01:35] <VonKranke> Ugh, you folks have the "thanks for flying.." crap too?  Wow.
[01:35] <reisio> ubuntivity: they're trying to fill their lonely lives :p
[01:36] <moes> My sdb partition says I need to create a new partition table...what will happen to my sda partition with Ubuntu-12.04 installed on it if I create a new partition table
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> don't forget to tip the waitress
[01:36] <IdleOne> reisio: Please drop it now and get back to support :)
[01:36] <ubuntivity> mountain: how is it possible 'technically' to flood a site from within an IRC channel?
[01:36] <IdleOne> wilee-nilee: err
[01:36] <dr_willis> moes:  sdb and sda are differnt hard drives
[01:36] <mickey> someone needs to kill the floodbots! damn!
[01:36] <fleshworm> harvesting
[01:36] <reisio> IdleOne: which part?
[01:36] <mountain> http=100|http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:36] <mountain> All gone :P
[01:36] <reisio> ubuntivity: the IRC part is just for the spectacle
[01:37] <ubuntivity> You mean it is LITERALLY just showing off? reisio
[01:37] <moes> dr_willis, They are different hard drives
[01:37] <Vypor> They were not flood bots .-.
[01:37] <reisio> ubuntivity: that is all
[01:37] <Vypor> they were actualyl dos bot
[01:37] <Vypor> they were actualyl dos bots
[01:37] <dr_willis> moes:  thats what i said.. so how can partioning sdb  affect sda..  it wont.
[01:37] <ubuntivity> Poor mindless creatures. They should have flooded their minds with something useful!
[01:37] <Vypor> asd
[01:38] <moes> dr_willis, Thanks i was not sure
[01:38] <dr_willis> moes:  when in doubt. backup imporntant data somewhere
[01:38] <moes> dr_willis, Have two back up
[01:39] <Inge_Chibueze> Hello everyone, Inge_Chibuezehere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:39] <Holmgeirr_Honora> Hello everyone, Holmgeirr_Honoratushere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:39] <Byron_Bo> Hello everyone, Byron_Bohere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:39] <qin> !ops
[01:39] <histo> IdleOne: they are back
[01:39] <mountain> http=100|http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:39] <Hugo_Eber> Hello everyone, Hugo_Eberhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:39] <dr_willis> and do it poorly i imagine.
[01:39] <zaapiel> anyone have nvidia drivers working with glx enabled?
[01:39] <Byron_Bo> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:39] <ggabriel96_> reisio?
[01:39] <Milos_Domotor> Hello everyone, Milos_Domotorhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:39] <Rodge_Zlatan> Hello everyone, Rodge_Zlatanhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:39] <reisio> ggabriel96_: yes?
[01:39] <mountain> http=100|http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:39] <Milos_Domotor> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:39] <Rodge_Zlatan> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:39] <ggabriel96_> reisio is that normal?
[01:39] <Vypor> http=100|http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:39] <Rodge_Zlatan> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:39] <Milos_Domotor> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:39] <FloodBot1> Rodge_Zlatan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:39] <Vypor> http=100|http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:39] <FloodBot1> Milos_Domotor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:39] <Rodge_Zlatan> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:39] <FloodBot1> Vypor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:39] <Milos_Domotor> UDP Flood started on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ with 100 threads.
[01:39] <Coburn> LOL
[01:39] <reisio> ggabriel96_: oh, probably, what'd it say exactly, again?
[01:39] <zaapiel> anyone have nvidia drivers working with glx enabled?
[01:39] <Coburn> geez
[01:43]  * Coburn marks Vypor with paint for EXTERMINATION
[01:43] <Coburn> IdleOne: ban that guy too
[01:43] <Coburn> he's the one that started the floods
[01:43] <IdleOne> should be better now
[01:43] <Niichan> I was wondering if you can remotely replace any linux distro with Ubuntu server like you can with other distros
[01:43] <reisio> Niichan: sure
[01:44] <vio1et> ubottu: tell Niichan about debootstrap
[01:45] <lucidium> I just updated to 13.04, and it appears the drivers for my card (the nvidia-96 package) have disappeared. How can I get them back installed?
[01:46] <qin> lucidium: via software center, look for nvidia
[01:46] <lucidium> qin, I did, and that package no longer appears there.
[01:46] <histo> Niichan: why wouldn't you be able to?
[01:46] <syn-ack> lucidium, Enable your partner repos first
[01:47] <Awaken> or live dangerously and go x-org:edgers
[01:47] <vio1et> lucidium: which version of Ubuntu did you update from?
[01:47] <lucidium> vio1et, 12.04, and I updated to 12.10 then immedietly to 13.04
[01:47] <usr13> vio1et: Obviously from 12.10
[01:47] <syn-ack> ah, a mess, it is
[01:47] <qin> lucidium: maybe your card was dropped from nvidia support, and you will have only opensource driver...
[01:48] <SteveWynn> Hey
[01:48] <usr13> qin: I don't think so.
[01:48] <qin> lucidium: or do as syn-ack said ^^
[01:48] <lucidium> I assume enabling partner repos are under "software sources" in the software center?
[01:49] <vio1et> lucidium: Ah, okay. nvidia-96 was removed in 12.10+, hence me asking. Some cards are perhaps supported by other nvidia drivers, otherwise use nouveau. I expect if you say your actual card in here someone will be able to figure it out; I don't use nvidia much though.
[01:49] <SteveWynn> I have a question about ubuntu
[01:49] <reisio> SteveWynn: yeah?
[01:49] <Vypor> how do i use ubuntu
[01:49] <phunyguy> !ask | SteveWynn
[01:49] <phunyguy> oh great
[01:49] <phunyguy> its bots isnt it
[01:49] <vio1et> Vypor: carefully :)
[01:49] <lucidium> I'm running a nVidia Geforce 4 MX 4000
[01:49] <Vypor> were not bots
[01:49] <Vypor> .-.
[01:49] <SteveWynn> So I updated my kernel and im getting a kernel panic.
[01:49] <usr13> lucidium: Are you on 13.04 64Bit or 32Bit?
[01:50] <lucidium> usr13, 32bit i686
[01:50] <SteveWynn> yes
[01:50] <SteveWynn> i have 128bit
[01:50] <ubuntivity> *Troll Alert*
[01:51] <phunyguy> IdleOne: you missed.
[01:52] <IdleOne> thank you phunyguy
[01:52] <usr13> lucidium: A laptop? Or Desktop?
[01:52] <Vypor> Both
[01:52] <lucidium> usr13, desktop
[01:52] <phunyguy> y/w.
[01:52] <Vypor> http=100|http://fbi.gov
[01:52] <Hugo_Eber> UDP Flood started on http://fbi.gov with 100 threads.
[01:53] <qin> Vypor: Why?
[01:53] <ubuntivity> Is Vypor another spambot?
[01:53] <phunyguy> Vypor is the culprit.
[01:53] <Nicolaas_Gruffud> Hello everyone, Nicolaas_Gruffudhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:53] <usr13> lucidium:  lspci |grep VGA   #Tell us what it says.
[01:54] <lucidium> usr13, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000] (rev a4)
[01:54] <L3mce> lucidium: can you please do that again but lspci -nn | grep VGA
[01:55] <lucidium> L3mce, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000] [10de:0185] (rev a4)
[01:55] <usr13> lucidium:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/290179/13-04-upgrade-with-nvidia
[01:55] <Milos_Sergej> Hello everyone, Milos_Sergejhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:56] <mdh> Please don't!
[01:56] <histo> IdleOne: can't this be automated with floodbot?
[01:56] <IdleOne> histo: probably
[01:56] <ubuntivity> Can't you just ban the IP?
[01:56] <IdleOne> histo: I don't have that sort of access to the floodbots
[01:56] <phunyguy> seems to be more than one IP, ubuntivity
[01:57] <qin> IdleOne: ban whole Brasil?
[01:57] <syn-ack> ubuntivity, that and they can be spoofed
[01:57] <phunyguy> slave PCs out there in the interwebs
[01:57] <ubuntivity> Oh, I see.
[01:57] <ubuntivity> Probably WinXP slaves, I quess!
[01:57] <L3mce> lucidium: the only proprietary nvidia driver you can run is 96... I just scrolled up to your original question. Let me look around.
[01:58] <phunyguy> !root > l0g1c
[02:00] <L3mce> sorry lucidium, what release  buntu are you on?
[02:02] <lucidium> L3mce, now i'm on 13.04
[02:05] <L3mce> lucidium: I can get you to a deb... but I don't know if it will go under your kernel. You wont be able to use unity etc... GL isnt supported or anything. I would frankly just stick with nouveau or better yet... let time move you forward a decade on hardware.
[02:07] <lucidium> L3mce, I'm upgrading this weekend anyway, just wanted some OpenGL acceleration until then. I assume then that that's not possible?
[02:07] <qin> L3mce: decade?
[02:07] <L3mce> Afraid not
[02:07] <lucidium> alright, no problem
[02:07] <lucidium> thanks for the help everybody
[02:10] <L3mce> qin: yes... a decade. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_4_Series birthed 2002
[02:10] <santi> I'm trying to set write permissions to any user on the folder /var/www/projects/my_project/tmp (owner=vagrant, owner_group=vagrant) while logged in as vagrant (which I've verified by running "who am i"). Under these conditions, running "chmod 777" or "chmod 757" (with and without the -R flag) doesn't error out, but doesn't do any changes either. What could this be?
[02:10] <live95> if an iso image is too big to fit on a CD and your computer cannot boot from usb stick, how can you install the iso?
[02:11] <santi> live95: don't think so...
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> live95, dvd?
[02:11] <live95> nope, no dvd drive
[02:11] <reisio> live95: more complicated ways
[02:11] <reisio> live95: try the minimal cd image
[02:11] <live95> ok
[02:12] <santi> any ideas where I can get help on Unix permissions?
[02:13] <L3mce> santi: sudo chmod 757
[02:13] <qin> santi: ls -l /var/www/projects/my_project/tmp; chmod 000 var/www/projects/my_project/tmp; ls -l var/www/projects/my_project/tmp
[02:13] <qin> santi: and?
[02:14] <santi> qin: trying
[02:14] <stairmast0r> !version
[02:14] <stairmast0r> !list
[02:15] <stairmast0r> lol
[02:15] <stairmast0r> !!verison
[02:15] <stairmast0r> !!version
[02:15] <qin> !bot > stairmast0r
[02:15] <stairmast0r> !misc version
[02:15] <santi> qin: chmod 000 doesn't do anything to it either
[02:16] <stairmast0r> qin: version should give his supybot version...
[02:16] <santi> it's like the folder's immutable, but I own it!
[02:16] <santi> qin: it's like the folder's immutable, but I own it!
[02:16] <qin> santi: lsattr ?
[02:16] <qin> stairmast0r: unless someone decided to properly set it up for some purpose.
[02:17] <santi> $ lsattr tmp/
[02:17] <santi> lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on tmp/test.txt
[02:17] <santi> qin: see my output above
[02:18] <santi> qin: BTW
[02:18] <santi> $ ls -l | grep tmp
[02:18] <santi> drwxr-xr-x 1 vagrant vagrant   4096 Aug  2 01:20 tmp
[02:21] <qin> santi: can you write to that dir, cd tmp; touch something;
[02:21] <santi> yes
[02:21] <santi> qin: yes
[02:22] <ggabriel96_> hey guys
[02:22] <ggabriel96_> i just installed Blueman applet
[02:22] <ggabriel96_> and now i have 2 bluetooth icons on my tray >_<
[02:22] <ggabriel96_> is there a way i can leave only 1 there
[02:22] <ggabriel96_> ?
[02:24] <qin> santi: cp tmp tmp2; chmod 700 tmp2; ls -l; does it work? too tired to figure it out.
[02:25] <santi> doesn't work
[02:25] <ChrisMaQ> is there any good substitute for skype on ubuntu ... my skype keeps crashing
[02:26] <santi> I even tried mkdir tmp3; chmod 777 tmp3;
[02:26] <santi> qin: I even tried mkdir tmp3; chmod 777 tmp3;
[02:26] <santi> qin: perms always end up as drwxr-xr-x
[02:28] <cmcki193> hello all
[02:28] <santi> qin: Nevermind... Destroying and up'in vagrant box again to see what happens
[02:28] <cmcki193> got a question: is there a way to choose a mirror so that i may have a faster one?
[02:28] <ggabriel96_> hi
[02:28] <hewhomust> cmcki193, yeah go to software centre
[02:29] <hewhomust> cmcki193, edit then software sources
[02:29] <rtward> \wc
[02:30] <hewhomust> cmcki193, then go to download from, other and click on select best server
[02:30] <cmcki193> hewhomust:  found it.  thanks for the help
[02:30] <hewhomust> np
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> ChrisMaQ, I see this bug fix for skype, not sure what version you have, and don't really use it. Not sure of any substitute myself. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/skype-push-out-new-bug-fix-update
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> ChrisMaQ, Google has a web chat as well.
[02:32] <ChrisMaQ> thanks wilee-nilee will
[02:32] <ChrisMaQ> will check it out
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> cool good luck
[02:35] <fleshworm> wee!
[02:35] <fleshworm> l0ll
[02:36] <p0wn3d> ChrisMaQ: check out https://perism-break.org/ for jitsi. It is a replacement for Skyp
[02:37] <p0wn3d> prism-break.org
[02:37] <cmcki193> so what are some good recommended software for ubuntu?
[02:38] <cmcki193> besides vlc
[02:38] <p0wn3d> https://jitsi.org/
[02:38] <dr_willis> for what tasks  cmcki193
[02:38] <cmcki193> dr_willis: just in general.  I'm just being curious
[02:43] <Frederick> folks Ive mangled my grub, is it easy to setup a new one from ubuntus live cd?
[02:43] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[02:44] <cmcki193> hewhomust:  just wanted to say thanks for telling me how to select mirrors.  I went from 16 kb/s to 150 kb/s
[02:44] <dr_willis> use the boot-repair tool  Frederick
[02:44] <hewhomust> lol np
[02:44] <Frederick> guys I must  admit im using archlinux but your livecd is easier to use in this case is it an issue?
[02:44] <reisio> heh
[02:45] <reisio> Frederick: using Ubuntu is not an issue
[02:45] <dr_willis> follow the archlinux wiki on fixing grub
[02:45] <Frederick> reisio: Im sure it is not, dr_willis yup
[02:46] <dr_willis> boot-repair msy be ubuntu specific
[02:46] <reisio> Frederick: how'd you mangle it?
[02:46] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: Yes it is, but it can re-install a Windows MBR if it finds one.
[02:47] <Frederick> reisio: being a genious as im I set it as an active partition in windows which seems to have damaged the data
[02:47] <reisio> genius*
[02:47] <reisio> oh, were you just in #linux? :p
[02:47] <lgc> Where can I choose character resolution on Unity?
[02:47] <reisio> Frederick: you talking about your /boot partition?
[02:47] <Frederick> reisio: yes I must admit i was, yes
[02:47] <Frederick> reisio: the place where grub was installed
[02:47] <reisio> Frederick: right
[02:48] <Frederick> can I use ubuntu to fix it?
[02:48] <kostkon> lgc, dpi? you can't. maybe unity-tweak or ubuntu-tweak has an option for it
[02:48] <reisio> Frederick: you can't boot Windows anymore?
[02:48] <Frederick> I can im on it
[02:48] <Frederick> fixed that
[02:48] <reisio> Frederick: so it's not set as active anymore?
[02:48] <lgc> kostkon: Thanks!
[02:48] <Frederick> nope
[02:48] <Frederick> but I think it got formated
[02:49] <Frederick> reisio: windows formats stuff as it seems >)
[02:49] <reisio> Frederick: was it a separate /boot partition (just for the /boot directory)?
[02:49] <Frederick> reisio: yes
[02:49] <reisio> okay, so not so bad
[02:49] <lgc> kostkon: Is that a new package?
[02:49] <Frederick> reisio: can I fix it with an ubuntu live cd?
[02:49] <reisio> Frederick: you just need a partition/fs/kernel/grub and grub-install, you can do it all from the ubuntu live cd
[02:50] <reisio> Frederick: but you should probably get the specifics from #archlinux
[02:50] <reisio> Frederick: I should say, you just need _at most_
[02:50] <reisio> because it's possible it's less complicated, I don't know what this active business is
[02:50] <kostkon> lgc, 2 apps tha allow you to easily customise further your ubuntu/unity
[02:50] <reisio> if you nuked all the data on the partition, you need all that stuff
[02:50] <lgc> kostkon: I can't find them in the 12.04 repos.
[02:52] <lgc> How can I test if my camera is working?
[02:52] <reisio> Frederick: #windows would know for sure, but it sounds like Windows probably installs its loader to the beginning of any partition you mark as active
[02:53]  * reisio goes back to nonsense
[02:53] <dr_willis> lgc try the cheese spp.
[02:53] <dr_willis> app
[02:53] <lgc> Thanks, dr_willis!
[02:54] <ggabriel96> guys
[02:54] <tones>     `
[02:54] <ggabriel96> im not being able to access rdio.com site in firefox
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> ggabriel96, works here
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> ggabriel96, you might share what access means.
[02:56] <dr_willis> ggabriel96: try a different browser as a test
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> I just seee apple windows and android there, and using a agent switcher as IE8, made it worse
[03:02] <Prufrock> Hi all.
[03:03] <Prufrock> How do I choose an older kernel version as my  default booting preference?
[03:04] <wilee-nilee> Prufrock, If on board at the grub menu.
[03:04] <RipresaTecn> http://askubuntu.com/questions/156700/how-to-set-default-boot-kernel-in-ubuntu-grub
[03:04] <mathfreak> Prufrock: If you have the older kernel already installed, you just need to change a setting in /etc/defaults/grub
[03:05] <mathfreak> Prufrock: The setting you want to change is GRUB_DEFAULT. The first entry you see on GRUB is labeled 0. The second entry is 1. The third entry is 2. etc.
[03:06] <mathfreak> Prufrock: Correction: the file is /etc/default/grub, not /etc/defaults/grub
[03:07] <iampoz> what is with the floodbot thing?
[03:08] <cmck193> got a problem.  installed wine, winetricks, and virtualbox and now i have no trackpad support
[03:08] <cmck193> after reboot
[03:08] <Ari-Yang> Prufrock, to choose an old kernel from grub menu, you have to make it appear. edit /etc/default/grub and comment the lines GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true (putting # before the line comments it)
[03:08] <Ari-Yang> Prufrock, if you're on 12.10, then from the grub menu select I think 'advanced' something and from there you can choose an old kernel
[03:10] <Ari-Yang> Prufrock, oh and you can set the GRUB_TIMEOUT= to 10 seconds or the amount of seconds you want the GRUB menu to be displayed.
[03:10] <Ari-Yang> Prufrock, after that, in terminal type sudo update-grub then reboot
[03:13] <Prufrock> Ari-Yang, mathfreak , thanks folks. :)
[03:14] <barrett> i'm trying to be able to chose xmonad from the desktop manager option at the login screen, it requires .xsession to configure, but it doesn't seem to be getting run
[03:14] <barrett> any thoughts?
[03:17] <Te3-BloodyIron> im trying to mount an nfs share via fstab, but i'm having a few problems
[03:18] <Te3-BloodyIron> first off, when it mounts it gives the whole mount 777, and sets ownership to uid and gid 1001
[03:18] <Te3-BloodyIron> a user which doesn't exist on the client
[03:18] <Te3-BloodyIron> second off, when i try to add a second option in fstab to the mounting declaration, mounting fails
[03:18] <Te3-BloodyIron> any idea?
[03:19] <convict> Trying to install ubuntu on my MBP 9,1 so I downloaded the AMD64+Mac iso and converted it to img and dd'ed it to my usb stick but when I go to boot it it just gives a blinking underline
[03:19] <Prufrock> Ari-Yang, Hi
[03:19] <hewhomust> convict, what os do you have?
[03:19] <convict> the regular amd64 iso dd's fine but the install has temperature issues so i was wondering if the amd64+mac.iso would help any
[03:19] <convict> hewhomust, osx and a win8 machine
[03:19] <hewhomust> ok
[03:20] <Prufrock> Ari-Yang, I edited the grub file, but I couldn't really find out how to change the default kernel choice.
[03:20] <hewhomust> convict, I have the same problem on and off it's just that the usb becomes inactive
[03:20] <convict> what do you mean inactive
[03:20] <hewhomust> convict, black background white underline?
[03:20] <convict> yea
[03:21] <hewhomust> convict, it just means that it can't boot from it
[03:21] <convict> how do I fix it? Is it an issue with the iso?
[03:21] <hewhomust> going to windows I have a good link for it
[03:21] <mathfreak> Te3-BloodyIron: does the user who is mounting have the same UID and GID as the UID and GID on the server?
[03:23] <rOOb> !iso
[03:23] <hewhomust> convict:hi http://www.pcwinboot.com/2012/05/20/how-to-format-usb-flash-disk-and-mark-its-partition-to-be-active/
[03:23] <convict> oh, you just need to mark the partition as active?
[03:24] <hewhomust> yes
[03:24] <histo> Te3-BloodyIron: have you looked at the mount options for nfs in man mount ?
[03:24] <hewhomust> convict:then it should work
[03:24] <Te3-BloodyIron> i've tried options that i know work
[03:24] <Te3-BloodyIron> like no_root_squash for example
[03:24] <histo> !mac | convict
[03:25] <Te3-BloodyIron> mathfreak: I'm trying to mount them in fstab, so I assume root is the user mounting them
[03:25] <Te3-BloodyIron> and there is no user with UID or GID 1001
[03:25] <Te3-BloodyIron> oh, umm on the server
[03:25] <convict> !mac
[03:25] <Te3-BloodyIron> on the client there is no 1001
[03:25] <histo> T3: man 5 nfs  will show options
[03:25] <Te3-BloodyIron> but on the server, i haven't checked yet
[03:26] <histo> Te3-BloodyIron: don't see uid or gid in there
[03:26] <Te3-BloodyIron> okay that's fine, but that doesn't really solve the problem of multiple options breaking mountinf histo
[03:26] <Te3-BloodyIron> im not declaring uid or gid on mount
[03:26] <Te3-BloodyIron> like when im just doing mounting option of rw, it still does the 777 and 1001uid/gid thing
[03:26] <histo> Te3-BloodyIron: I'm sorry ignore me I thouhg you were
[03:26] <hewhomust> Te3, have you tried just mounting it to a local folder?
[03:27] <Te3-BloodyIron> no, but i will now lol hold on
[03:27] <mathfreak> Te3-BloodyIron: the UIDs and GIDs on the server and client should match for NFS to work. e.g. if user 1000 mounts a directory owned by UID 1001, but the client has no user 1001, then the share will be labeled as if its owned by "1001"
[03:27] <mathfreak> As for having permission 777, I haven't got a clue. What's it look like on the server?
[03:28] <Te3-BloodyIron> yeah just doing a basic mount same thing, 777 and 1001 uid/gid
[03:28] <histo> mathfreak: that should be set server side
[03:28] <Te3-BloodyIron> the server isn't 777, i think server is 755 or 775
[03:28] <histo> Te3-BloodyIron: what's the share on the server set like?
[03:28] <Te3-BloodyIron> let me double check
[03:28] <Te3-BloodyIron> but i know server isn't 777
[03:29] <themhz> hello, anyone knows when pulling from github why I get "/git-credential-osxkeychain: Syntax error: "(" unexpected"
[03:30] <reisio> themhz: it found a ( it wasn't expecting
[03:30] <eaxxae> Extra (
[03:30] <reisio> heh
[03:30] <reisio> that is: exactly what it says
[03:30] <Te3-BloodyIron> it's 775 on the server
[03:30] <themhz> heh
[03:30] <Te3-BloodyIron> and root:media (a group i made on the server)
[03:30] <Te3-BloodyIron> so
[03:30] <Te3-BloodyIron> i dont know why the owner is 1001, since that's definately not the case on the server
[03:31] <eaxxae> If he couldnt read the error ...why is  he using github to begin with
[03:31] <reisio> github hosts anything
[03:32] <themhz> it's appearing in aptana when I am pulling, anyway though someone had seen this before
[03:34] <williamtdr> Hello. I am trying to install Ubuntu on my computer without any external media from my existing Linux installation. I downloaded lubuntu 13.04 and fed the ISO to unetbootin, and then booted into grub. Howeve, when I try to install or boot from the live CD, it gives the error behind the dots (if I press ESC): /dev/sdb: No medium found. and 'stdin: n
[03:34] <williamtdr> ot a typewriter'. After several minutes it gives up and exists to busybox. What should I do?
[03:37] <histo> williamtdr: use dd instead of unetbootin
[03:37] <histo> williamtdr: to create the installation media
[03:38] <williamtdr> histo: I cannot use any external media.
[03:38] <williamtdr> I am using a virtual partition on my hard drive.
[03:38] <histo> williamtdr: so how are you intending on installing I missed that.
[03:38] <histo> williamtdr: and what is a virtual partition?
[03:38] <williamtdr> histo: unetbootin allows you to virtually mount the ISO into grub.
[03:39] <lgc>  how can I configure my laptop so it goes into suspend mode when I close the lid?
[03:39] <williamtdr> Problem is, it doesn't work properly.
[03:39] <histo> williamtdr: so you are trying to boot the iso from grub?
[03:39] <williamtdr> histo: yes.
[03:39] <histo> williamtdr: md5sum the iso and make sure the hash matches what the download site says
[03:40] <williamtdr> histo: performing, one second.
[03:41] <williamtdr> histo: where would I find the sum for lubuntu ISOs?
[03:41] <histo> williamtdr: on the lubuntu site and lubuntu support is in #lubuntu
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> !md5 | williamtdr
[03:42] <williamtdr> histo: I can't find it on the sire.
[03:42] <trism> williamtdr: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/13.04/release/MD5SUMS
[03:42] <histo> williamtdr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu
[03:43] <histo> williamtdr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[03:43] <Kyzz> How can I go about changing my default terminal emulator to rxvt-unicode?
[03:43] <williamtdr> histo, trism: thanks.
[03:44] <convict> is the amd64+mac iso for ppc?
[03:45] <syn-ack> no
[03:45] <syn-ack> Its for the intel mac
[03:45] <williamtdr> md5sum matches that of the ISO.
[03:45] <convict> hmm, why can't I get it to boot? the normal ISO works fine but the +mac doesn't
[03:45] <syn-ack> Ubuntu PPC is marked as such
[03:45] <syn-ack> Well, until it's discontinued next cycle...
[03:46] <bruce_> i just installed ubuntu studio on a macbook pro and the cpu fan is constantly on... cpu is at 1%
[03:47] <bruce_> is there any thing i can install that will reduce this happening?
[03:47] <convict> I have the normal amd64 13.04 installed on my MBP and it runs extremely hot so I'm trying the +mac version but I can't get it to boot :/
[03:47] <bruce_> oh:(
[03:47] <bruce_> convict, why were u asking about PPC then?
[03:48] <convict> bruce_, was wondering if the +mac version was PPC which would explain why it won't boot
[03:48] <bruce_> e.g. MBP is only intel...
[03:48] <bruce_> ah! fair enough
[03:48] <syn-ack> convict, I already told you what it was.
[03:48] <convict> yeah, I set the partition as active
[03:48] <convict> still no dice
[03:49] <bruce_> syn-ack, is there an ubunu for an MBP that will not run so hot?
[03:49] <bruce_> ubuntu i mean:)
[03:49] <convict> bruce_, I think it's a mix of the fans not running as high as they should and the GPU being on constantly
[03:49] <syn-ack> bruce_, Theres a driver that runs in both Windows and OS X that controls that issue. AFAIK, thgere isn't a fix for linux
[03:50] <convict> welp, sounds like I'll be keeping osx then :P
[03:50] <kb3gtn> oO
[03:50] <bruce_> ah, thanks convict and syn-ack - so, its something we have to live with...
[03:50] <syn-ack> From what I read a couple years ago, prolonged usage without said driver can burn out your CPU
[03:50] <mrdeb> hi
[03:50] <mrdeb> is it true that 1204 lts has 3.8 kernel now. why
[03:50] <mrdeb> is it better
[03:50] <kb3gtn> new hardware support
[03:51] <mrdeb> u mean graphic card
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> mrdeb, I don't believe it does.
[03:51] <kb3gtn> optional install
[03:51] <syn-ack> Don't quote me, but I'm sure it's been fixed.
[03:51] <mrdeb> yes it does
[03:51] <bruce_> so how do people go about running ubuntu on an MBP? is there any version which this is addressed in?
[03:51] <mrdeb> i downloaded daily and it has 3.8
[03:51] <kb3gtn> yup.. thats the newest stuff
[03:51] <syn-ack> bruce_, Don't know, I stopped using Macs when they abandoned POWER
[03:51] <mrdeb> is it faster
[03:52] <bruce_> syn-ack - am trying to slowly migrate... maybe not the best way to do it:)
[03:52] <convict> lame... really wanted to use ubuntu too
[03:53] <syn-ack> convict, all I can say is research the issue. This was something I saw quite a while back. It may have been fixed by now
[03:54] <syn-ack> bruce_, The way I've done migration is to Just Do It. Doing it slowly never works
[03:54] <mrdeb> so lts will keep getting new kernel?
[03:54] <mrdeb> cool
[03:54] <convict> well, I would be able to find out if the +mac version of the iso has anything different to help out with the heat issue but I can't get it to boot so idk
[03:54] <mrdeb> what about chrome, will lts dump firefox for chrome soon
[03:54] <syn-ack> so far as I know the only difference is that the Mac version is specifically set up for EFI firmwares
[03:55] <syn-ack> *maybe* be some driver issues, but I'm not sure.
[03:55] <convict> oh okay, so I won't mess with it then
[03:56] <syn-ack> After all, all a Mac is anymore is an over priced PC, anyway
[03:57] <dougiel> ???
[03:57] <convict> syn-ack, not really considering I can't really run ubuntu on it well
[03:58] <syn-ack> convict, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[03:58] <convict> syn-ack, nothing listed for my model
[03:59] <syn-ack> What model?
[03:59] <convict> 9.1
[03:59] <convict> 9,1*
[04:00] <syn-ack> convict, I would assume this is the best fit for you, then: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro8-2/Raring
[04:02] <bruce_> syn-ack - yeah, pretty much - but i keep buying them any way:)
[04:02] <syn-ack> convict, or may be https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro9-2/Ringtail Though this is starting to get into uncharted territory for me
[04:02] <Ari-Yang> Prufrock, you change the GRUB_DEFAULT=0 in /etc/default/grub. default is 0, which is the kernel you're currently using. now you can look at the grub menu on boot and look at the list of older kernels. Say you do, the first one on the list should be the default one, lets say you have 5 kernels installed; the first one on the list corresponds to 0, the second kernel on the list is 1 and so on. So if you w
[04:02] <Ari-Yang> anted to boot a kernel that is number 5 on the list, you'd set GRUB_DEFAULT to 6 (GRUB_DEFAULT=6)
[04:02] <syn-ack> bruce_, The Jobs family thanks you, as well.
[04:03] <bruce_> i was just using audacious, and i muted the sound using the keyboard, and cant get sound back - even after a reboot! any clues?
[04:03] <syn-ack> bruce_, use amixer to unmute it.
[04:03] <bruce_> it now shows as unmuted, but no sound...
[04:04] <bruce_> ok, here comes the noob question... Where is amixer? is that the one under media playback?
[04:05] <syn-ack> bruce_, you have to install
[04:05] <bruce_> ah!
[04:05] <syn-ack> bruce_, sudo apt-get install amixer
[04:05] <syn-ack> bruce_, also, it's a console app.
[04:05] <bruce_> ok, will do
[04:06] <syn-ack> The reason Im having you use that is sometimes pulseaudio gets in the way and it's a more direct way of interacting with the drivers
[04:06] <convict> yea, can't turn off the graphics card with vgaswitcheroo :/
[04:07] <bruce_> syn-ack - it said that the package is not available but is referred to by another package...
[04:07] <bruce_> is there another way of doing this?
[04:07] <syn-ack> bruce_, yes
[04:07] <syn-ack> bruce_, apt-cache search amixer
[04:07] <syn-ack> what does it say?
[04:08] <syn-ack> (Im not in a debian distro right now, whcih is why I'm having you do it)
[04:09] <bruce_> says pretty much same thing - that it has no installation candidate...
[04:09] <syn-ack> Standby
[04:09] <holstein> !info gnome-alsamixer
[04:09] <syn-ack> alsamixer
[04:09] <syn-ack> nm
[04:09] <bruce_> ah, cool
[04:09] <histo> bruce_: or try alsamizer
[04:09] <holstein> !info alsa-utils
[04:09] <syn-ack> holstein got it. heh
[04:10] <histo> s/alsamizer/alsamixer
[04:10] <syn-ack> I was searching the ubuntu package search site. Sorry about that
[04:11] <bruce_> nope, unable to locate package - i tried the path u gave me too...
[04:11] <bruce_> hmmm
[04:11] <holstein> bruce_: you should be able to just run it.. alsamixer in the terminal
[04:12] <holstein> !audio
[04:12] <bruce_> yep, there it is!
[04:12] <bruce_> everything is on and up...
[04:12] <holstein> bruce_: dont trust labels there
[04:12] <bruce_> ah
[04:13] <holstein> bruce_: "aplay -l" in the terminal.. do you see your audio device?
[04:13] <holstein> bruce_: have you installed and tried to use "pavucontrol"
[04:13] <holstein> bruce_: did you mute with the "function" keys of the keyboard in XFCE?
[04:13] <bruce_> not yet, just a fresh install of ubuntu:)
[04:14] <holstein> bruce_: have you *ever* had audio
[04:14] <bruce_> yes, muted with function key f10
[04:14] <bruce_> i did up to that point!
[04:14] <holstein> bruce_: dont use the function keys, or expect them to work.. or to unmute.. maybe only the mute works
[04:15] <syn-ack> heh, mine work. :D
[04:15] <bruce_> holstein - yeah, i am expecting everything to work like on osx - sillly mistake:)
[04:15] <holstein> bruce_: are you certain the hardware is functional? do you see the device in "aplay -l" has *any* linux worked?
[04:15] <holstein> bruce_: ?
[04:15] <holstein> bruce_: you are expecting eveything to work like you bought it from the same vendor.. like a system76 ubuntu machine or another reseller
[04:16] <holstein> bruce_: right now, you are using an operating system not intended to run on the hardware you have.. so, you wil need to be "open minded" and willing to troubleshoot
[04:16] <bruce_> holstein - not sure what you mean - when i installed about an hour ago, i played some music thru audacious, then tried out the mute button, then it stopped working...
[04:16] <holstein> bruce_: i assue you, we can find the same case with OSX and other hardware that it is not supposed to run on.. not to trash osx at all
[04:17] <bruce_> holstein - i am patient and willing to give it a go:)
[04:17] <holstein> bruce_: *dont* use the function keys.. and expect them to work
[04:17] <IdleOne> !bot
[04:18] <holstein> bruce_: please install pavcontrol, and unmute *not* using the keyboard
[04:18] <bruce_> holstein - ok, will do now...
[04:19] <MonkWitDaFunk> Hi pavucontrol is needed as a playback and recording system
[04:19] <MonkWitDaFunk> I havent done pvr functionality yet
[04:20] <MonkWitDaFunk> I hope pvr ubuntu is great starting with 12.04.2
[04:20] <nathanesau1> anyone here know much about operating system installation?
[04:21] <MonkWitDaFunk> Hi nathan
[04:21] <holstein> nathanesau1: yes.. may volunteers.. i would say *every* volunteer here has installed many OS's.. i installed 2 today
[04:21] <MonkWitDaFunk> Nathanesaul
[04:21] <nathanesau1> i only have one current hard drive partition
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> holstein: 2 ubuntu systems?
[04:21] <nathanesau1> 700gb ntfs
[04:21] <nathanesau1> but... when i try to install from a boot cd (windows)
[04:22] <nathanesau1> it just goes to the bios screen
[04:22] <nathanesau1> and doesnt boot the disc
[04:22] <MonkWitDaFunk> Im still figuring out if gnome disk utility can make partitions
[04:22] <bruce_> holstein - ok, installed pavucontrol - and it currently shows as unmuted - but there is still no sound...
[04:22] <nathanesau1> in fact, the only disk i can actually load is xubuntu
[04:22] <holstein> nathanesau1: mabye the windows cd is bad
[04:22] <nathanesau1> its not
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> MonkWitDaFunk: did you try with gparted?
[04:22] <nathanesau1> ive tried vista, xp , windows 7
[04:22] <nathanesau1> i have the original install discs
[04:22] <holstein> bruce_: mute and unmute.. try a different user..
[04:22] <MonkWitDaFunk> No no. I want to do it wuth gnome
[04:23] <MonkWitDaFunk> With gnome
[04:23] <nathanesau1> did i partition my harddrive improperly???
[04:23] <holstein> MonkWitDaFunk: gparted is the tool  to use.. from a live CD
[04:23] <nathanesau1> anyone know how to do a factory reset of your computer?? (i currently have no OS installed)
[04:23] <holstein> nathanesau1: the hard drive state will not make the cd not boot
[04:23] <client> nathanesau1 what are you attempting to do?
[04:23] <nathanesau1> boot from a windows install cd
[04:23] <nathanesau1> i can only boot from a linux install cd
[04:23] <holstein> nathanesau1: you get the factory reset disk from the manufacturer, and boot it
[04:24] <holstein> nathanesau1: if you have a properly functioning windows boot cd, you should be able to boot it then
[04:24] <client> Would you like to wipe your harddrive clean completely?
[04:24] <MonkWitDaFunk> Yes, you can download ubuntu or torrent ubuntu
[04:24] <nathanesau1> yes client
[04:24] <nathanesau1> i am currently running off of a "trial" of xubuntu
[04:24] <client> Ok then if it isn't working with a windows boot cd, would you like us to help you find a solution using a linux cd?
[04:25] <nathanesau1> sure
[04:25] <holstein> you dont need to wipe the hard drive to get a windows installtion cd to boot
[04:25] <roasted> Question - I am trying to set up email notifications with mdadm. I added my email address to mdadm.conf, but when I run the test command, it errors out with  mdadm: Only one autorebuild process allowed in scan mode, aborting. Eh?
[04:25] <nathanesau1> i think its because of my hard drive partition holstein
[04:25] <nathanesau1> in the bios for instance
[04:25] <holstein> nathanesau1: no.. its not
[04:25] <nathanesau1> only the ubuntu cd shows up
[04:25] <holstein> nathanesau1: the hard drive has nothing to do with the bios booting the CD
[04:25] <nathanesau1> not the windows install cd
[04:26] <holstein> nathanesau1: and, im proposing the ubuntu cd is "good".. where, if you havent *ever* seen the windows cd boot, its "bad".. or "broken"
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> roasted: maybe this can help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1895084&page=5&p=12407697#post12407697
[04:26] <bruce_> holstein - found it! unmuted analog playback:) thanks!
[04:26] <holstein> nathanesau1: take the windows cd to another machine and test it
[04:26] <nathanesau1> i will
[04:27] <bruce_> holstein - avoiding f keys from now on:)
[04:27] <holstein> bruce_: enjoy!
[04:27] <nathanesau1> also the reason linux is bad for me
[04:27] <nathanesau1> is that my laptop gets really hot
[04:27] <nathanesau1> when i am on ubuntu
[04:27] <nathanesau1> no idea why
[04:27] <nathanesau1> and the battery drains like crazy
[04:27] <holstein> nathanesau1: graphics driver..
[04:27] <nathanesau1> is there a fix???
[04:27] <holstein> nathanesau1: the battery life wont be better in linux..
[04:28] <roasted> lotuspsychje: new error - sendmail: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory
[04:28] <nathanesau1> no but its like 3 times better in windows
[04:28] <roasted> joyyyyyyyyy
[04:28] <MonkWitDaFunk> You might.need an expenive power adapter from cooler master
[04:28] <holstein> nathanesau1: sure.. ask the vendor for proper linux support.. that would be a fix.. otherwise, install, and troubleshoot
[04:28] <client> Ok I found solutions to wipe and reinstall, but no solutions to just wipe the HDD clean
[04:28] <MonkWitDaFunk> Id get a universal power adapter
[04:28] <holstein> nathanesau1: it can be "like 3 times better" in the operating system the hardware was designed to run
[04:29] <nathanesau1> hmm... is there a way to install a linux os right now for me???
[04:29] <nathanesau1> without having to burn it to a cd
[04:29] <holstein> wiping the hard drive is not the issue... but you can wipe it with a dban live CD
[04:29] <holstein> !install
[04:29] <nathanesau1> dban live cd doesnt boot for me holstein
[04:29] <gp5st> in lucid, http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/libccid, supported the O2 micro oz776.  in precise http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libccid it doesn't seem to . how come?
[04:29] <nathanesau1> thats why i think its my laptop
[04:29] <MonkWitDaFunk> Id use two live mediums to put hard disk memory to a new life span
[04:29] <nathanesau1> dban iso cd wont boot either
[04:29] <client> holstein relax bro. as you can see the guy is kind of a newbie, so go easy on him
[04:30] <holstein> nathanesau1: sounds to me like you dont have a full grasp of the bios on your system
[04:30] <holstein> !volunteers | client
[04:30] <holstein> client: feel free and volunteer as you wish
[04:30] <nathanesau1> holstein: the ubuntu cd works, but dban and windows cds do ont
[04:30] <client> seems like im hitting a brick wall with you holstein.
[04:30] <nathanesau1> *do not
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> roasted: you got postfix installed correctly?
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> roasted: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1491387
[04:31] <holstein> client: yeah? i am welcoming your feedback that should be directed to nathanesau1 .. no walls here.. enjoy!
[04:31] <client> nathan, right now are you running ubuntu through a cd?
[04:31] <holstein> nathanesau1: did you burn the windows CD yourself?
[04:32] <nathanesau1> no
[04:32] <nathanesau1> i have a windows install cd
[04:32] <holstein> nathanesau1: does the windows CD and/or dban boot on another machine?
[04:32]  * wilee-nilee thinks "if there was only a per-session boot out if the bios"
[04:32] <nathanesau1> yes
[04:32] <nathanesau1> it does
[04:32] <bruce_> holstein - how do we find out the graphics card under ubuntu?
[04:32] <holstein> bruce_: lspci
[04:32] <nathanesau1> i was wondering whether my bios is messed up or something
[04:32] <nathanesau1> i.e. when my laptop boots up
[04:33] <nathanesau1> like... can the bios be reset to factory settings or??
[04:33] <holstein> nathanesau1: sound like it could be.. i would test the memory from that ubuntu live CD that is booting.. and test as much as you can
[04:33] <client> the bios is probably running on factory settings right now nathan
[04:33] <holstein> nathanesau1: there will be a factory reset in the bios screens (or should be).. they are different per machine, and you should try a hardware channel for support
[04:33] <MonkWitDaFunk> You can reset the bios by taking out the cmos battery to drain the cmos of power and power on ti reset it
[04:34] <MonkWitDaFunk> Cmos is volatile
[04:34] <nathanesau1> hmmm not sure what to do
[04:34] <syn-ack> Or you can not listen to MonkWitDaFunk since doing that can short out the CMOS
[04:34] <nathanesau1> maybe i should contact my manufacturer
[04:34] <syn-ack> check out the BIOS settings, it should be in there.
[04:34] <client> syn-ack :D
[04:35] <holstein> nathanesau1: i suggest testing, and contacting the vendor, and trying a hardware channel
[04:35] <client> nathanesau1 if its still under warranty, contact the manufacturer
[04:35] <MonkWitDaFunk> Just put the batter in the right way to reset your bios. You need to fully program your bios afterwards
[04:36] <nathanesau1> lol do they cover stuff like this on warranty???
[04:36] <holstein> i would look  for a reset in the bios menu before turning any screws
[04:36] <MonkWitDaFunk> Its easy
[04:36] <syn-ack> MonkWitDaFunk, Silence.
[04:36] <nathanesau1> theyll probably say its my fault for messing with partitions
[04:36] <client> its just a bios issue. What they will do is probably reset it.
[04:36] <holstein> nathanesau1: you'll need to ask the manufacturer what they cover
[04:36] <nathanesau1> and not  fix it
[04:36] <syn-ack> lets not have him void anything, shall we?
[04:36] <holstein> nathanesau1: the hard drive partitions dont effect the bios, friend
[04:36] <MonkWitDaFunk> Program the setting of smart fan.for example
[04:36] <client> thats like a car manufacturer saying its your fault for doing an oil change.
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> Gosh if there was only a boot from menu outside the bios to try.
[04:37] <nathanesau1> lol client
[04:37] <client> yeah syn-ack is right. dont be opening up the hardware.
[04:37] <holstein> plop
[04:37] <client> its just a bios issue for now.
[04:37] <holstein> http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/index.html
[04:38] <holstein> if plop boots, you can have it boot USB or whatever other media
[04:38] <client> nathan is your laptop a dual-boot right now?
[04:39] <nathanesau1> no
[04:39] <nathanesau1> no OS right now
[04:39] <krz> is this channel being flooded?
[04:39] <syn-ack> krz, Yes.
[04:39] <client> that doesn't sound correct. How did you wipe the HDD clean without installing an OS?
[04:39] <holstein> nathanesau1: if that hard drive were out.. the machine should boot a CD.. the state of that hard drive wont keep the CD from booting
[04:40] <krz> wah
[04:40] <nathanesau1> client
[04:40] <krz> why so much hate
[04:40] <nathanesau1> i used a live cd
[04:40] <krz> who is hating on ubuntu?
[04:40] <nathanesau1> with xubuntu on it
[04:40] <nathanesau1> and got rid of all the partitions
[04:41] <holstein> krz: you might rather discuss that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:41] <ggabriel96> hey guys! after i ran steam big picture, now there are 2 icons for steam at the launcher, with only 1 steam open of course
[04:41] <nathanesau1> and combined them all into one 700gb ntfs
[04:41] <holstein> !steam | ggabriel96
[04:41] <bruce_> holstein - looks like there is a linux driver for the GPU on this MBP. so, how do UNINSTALL the current one? There is a page which suggests to do that first...
[04:41] <MonkWitDaFunk> 12.04.2 is by far the most out there ubuntu to adopt in my opinion
[04:41] <bruce_> holstein - looks like there is a linux driver for the GPU on this MBP. so, how do UNINSTALL the current one? There is a page which suggests to do that first...
[04:41] <client> ok ok. so you ran the installation of xubuntu.
[04:41] <bruce_> holstein - looks like there is a linux driver for the GPU on this MBP. so, how do UNINSTALL the current one? There is a page which suggests to do that first...
[04:41] <nathanesau1> no i didnt install xubuntu
[04:41] <ggabriel96> holstein ?
[04:41] <nathanesau1> i am currently "trying it"
[04:41] <nathanesau1> from a live cd
[04:42] <client> why don't you just install xubuntu for now and then work your way back?
[04:42] <holstein> ggabriel96: the channel referenced at the link i gave would be the place to ask, or steam support
[04:42] <nathanesau1> im not sure how i would work my way back
[04:42] <holstein> ggabriel96: #ubuntu-steam
[04:42] <nathanesau1> also i wanted to try a different linux os
[04:42] <ggabriel96> !steam is a channel? wouldn't it be #steam?
[04:42] <nathanesau1> and was wondering if i could do that right now
[04:42] <nathanesau1> without having to burn another live cd
[04:42] <holstein> ggabriel96: it would be #ubuntu-steam ,as i stated, and the link states
[04:42] <client> nathan the problem with your situation is that in order to wipe the HDD clean from a xubuntu boot disk, you would have to go through the install process. if you just booted from a live cd, it wouldn't wipe the HD
[04:43] <holstein> or, just open gparted from the live CD
[04:43] <nathanesau1> i did that holstein
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> nathanesau1, There is a boot from menu outside the bios, the bios splash screen most likely tells you the key prompt, on my computer it is f11, this is a per-session boot.
[04:43] <client> you can use a usb memory/flashstick as another boot option
[04:43] <ggabriel96> well ok, thanks
[04:43] <holstein> nathanesau1: did what?
[04:44] <nathanesau1> i used gparted
[04:44] <nathanesau1> /dev/sda
[04:44] <nathanesau1> /dev/sda1 - ntfs
[04:44] <nathanesau1> unallocated
[04:44] <bruce_> holstein - is it possible to create a bootcamp disk from osx, with wondows drivers, and use them? or am I barking up the wrong tree? Seems , like it would be nice to drivers for a few other things too...
[04:44] <holstein> nathanesau1: also, it literally doesnt effect the booting of a CD.. the state of the hard drive.
[04:44] <nathanesau1> thats all it says
[04:44] <holstein> bruce_: you shouldnt need to
[04:44] <goddard> should I get an IPS display?
[04:45] <bruce_> holstein: cool. here goes!
[04:45] <holstein> bruce_: if you literally just installed.. i would just enjoy the system, as you did OSX. and try othe driver if you need to
[04:45] <client> nathan if you install any OS for now, its better than sitting in a state of limbo without an OS.
[04:45] <nathanesau1> true
[04:45] <holstein> bruce_: if you run into an issue, for example.. linux should be supporing what it can by default.. you can install proprietary graphics drivers, but you wont need windows or boot camp
[04:45] <client> xubuntu is much lighter than ubuntu in terms of running on systems.
[04:45] <nathanesau1> whats the easiest way to make a linux os boot usb
[04:46] <nathanesau1> to install a linux os
[04:46] <holstein> nathanesau1: i use unetbootin
[04:46] <holstein> !unetbootin
[04:46] <client> exit
[04:46] <nathanesau1> but can you install an os from unetbootin??? or just try one out
[04:46] <nathanesau1> and i heard that the older version is better?
[04:47] <holstein> nathanesau1: there is not difference, friend. there is no "Trial".. there is just the live CD that you can run live, and install from
[04:47] <holstein> nathanesau1: "better" is a matter of opinion
[04:47] <holstein> nathanesau1: the 12.04 version is an LTS.. a long term support.. you use that one is you want long term support.. the 13.04 verision is newer
[04:47] <holstein> its up to you to decide what is "better"
[04:48] <nathanesau1> what linux os would you recommend??? which are the most lightweight
[04:49] <nathanesau1> i dont want my laptop to be so hot all the time
[04:49] <bruce_> holstein: yeah, good advice! at least i have music now! that helps! thanks for your help.
[04:49] <holstein> nathanesau1: xubuntu has been recommended to you here
[04:49] <holstein> nathanesau1: lubuntu as well
[04:49] <holstein> nathanesau1: the heat is from the driver support likely
[04:49] <holstein> bruce_: enjoy!
[04:49] <dr_willis> i second what holstein  says about heat
[04:50] <fobelx> i have two internet connections. wlan0 and eth0. is there a way for me to control which applications use which connection?
[04:50] <nathanesau1> holstein: 12.04_live for lubuntu?
[04:50] <holstein> nathanesau1: there is no "lts" version of lubuntu, so i would get 13.04
[04:50] <dr_willis> !lubuntu
[04:51] <holstein> nathanesau1: if you are getting 12.04 because "someone said the older version is better", you didnt read what i posted about the versions
[04:51] <dr_willis> 13.04 ubuntu may cure the heat issue also
[04:51] <holstein> i second what dr_willis said about 13.04 curing the heat issue potentially!
[04:51] <Senor> How chould I install kernel debug info?
[04:51] <nathanesau1> im currently using 13.04
[04:51] <nathanesau1> my laptop is very hot still
[04:51] <holstein> nathanesau1: then, just install lxde
[04:52] <holstein> nathanesau1: lubuntu and xubuntu *are* ubuntu.. they are all ubuntu.. different desktop envoriments
[04:52] <dr_willis> !info lubuntu-desktop
[04:52] <nathanesau1> wait... so are there non-ubuntu linux depos that you like?
[04:52] <nathanesau1> i.e. debian
[04:53] <holstein> nathanesau1: this is the ubuntu support channel, friend
[04:53] <holstein> !ot | nathanesau1
[04:53] <nathanesau1> lol very true
[04:53] <nathanesau1> why did you chose ubuntu holstein
[04:53] <holstein> nathanesau1: the community
[04:54] <nathanesau1> alright i guess im getting daily_live_x64
[04:54] <nathanesau1> whatever lubuntu daily_live is...
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> nathanesau1, Find the boot from menu not in the bios key prompts, back to your original no boot, I have seen this work on 100's of exactly the same situation.
[04:54] <dr_willis> daily live?
[04:55] <holstein> nathanesau1: you dont want a daily live
[04:55] <holstein> nathanesau1: you might not want 64bit
[04:55] <nathanesau1> why not
[04:55] <dr_willis> if thats 13.10  its in pre beta testing
[04:55] <nathanesau1> i have a 64 bit processor
[04:55] <holstein> nathanesau1: how much ram?
[04:55] <nathanesau1> 8gb
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> nathanesau1, Did this computer come with W8 originally?
[04:56] <nathanesau1> yes
[04:56] <holstein> nathanesau1: this is what i, and others have suggested you download http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/
[04:56] <dr_willis> install tge lubuntu-desktop package nathanesau1 . no need to reinstall
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> BINGO
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | nathanesau1 for info
[04:57] <holstein> yup.. you already have ubuntu... unless you have installed 13.10 from a daily, which could explain some issues
[04:57] <dr_willis> !version
[04:58] <nathanesau1> wilee-nilee what did you mean find the boot from menu not in the bios key prompts, back to me original no boot
[04:58] <dr_willis> nathanesau1:  what lsb_release -a   say you have
[04:59] <nathanesau1> no lsb modules are avaialable
[04:59] <nathanesau1> ubuntu, ubuntu 13.04, raring
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> nathanesau1, If you had a standard partitioning system with a fast boot set up there would be a boot from menu outside the bios, however we can assume with a W8 install to begin with you have uefi, that is a bit of a tougher situation.
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> without the fast boot *
[05:00] <nathanesau1> i have a fast boot option
[05:00] <nathanesau1> in bios
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> nathanesau1, Did you disable it?
[05:00] <nathanesau1> yes
[05:00] <nathanesau1> also my partitions are screwed up like i said
[05:00] <holstein> nathanesau1: disable anything that would make the machine not boot CD
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> nathanesau1, Do you have the OEM set for W8?
[05:00] <nathanesau1> OEM set?
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> nathanesau1, original manufactures reintsall disc set.
[05:01] <nathanesau1> no
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> nathanesau1, I supsect the windows boot problem is tied to this, not sure of an answer I have avoided these setuos.
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> setuos*
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> ups* doh
[05:02] <nathanesau1> hmmm so its not just so simple as wiping a harddrive
[05:02] <nathanesau1> and then installing windows
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> nathanesau1, Not sure really, the ##windows channel might know here is a link from the UF on more uefi stuff. ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[05:04] <nathanesau1> is ##windows on the same server as this?
[05:04] <holstein> nathanesau1: you dont have to "wipe" and then install.. that is *not* what is keeping that cd from booting, friend
[05:04] <holstein> nathanesau1: the hard drive state is not preventing that cd from booting
[05:05] <dr_willis> unplug the hd  and see if it boots. to prove that
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> nathanesau1, Yes you have to be registered with freenode is all then run /j ##windows
[05:05] <dr_willis> but i cant see how the hd can be the issue
[05:07] <Voi> trying to ffmpeg -i *.flv *.mp3 i get "encoder not found" for mp3 error; i looked up on the internet and read that i need "libavcodec-extra-52" but i cant install it; package has no installation candiadate (seems like it worked on ubuntu 11 but not anymore
[05:08] <dr_willis> voi you may need to get it from the mediabuntu repos. and that command line seems wrong looking to me
[05:09] <Voi> dr_willis, which line
[05:09] <dr_willis> ive seen other  tools to rip the audio out of a flashvudeo also
[05:09] <Voi> can yxou recommend one
[05:09] <dr_willis> try your fgmpeg line on a single file
[05:10] <dr_willis> !info mencoder
[05:10] <dr_willis> !info winff
[05:12] <MOUD> hey all
[05:12] <MOUD> is there a program for ubuntu to fix windows 7 startup registry?
[05:13] <dr_willis> MOUD: if there is it would be on the  'system rescue'  live cd i bet
[05:13] <dr_willis> but may not be in the ubuntu repos
[05:13] <Foxhoundz> I installed Ubuntu on a laptop that has dedicated nVidia graphics chip as well as the intel integrated piece or garbage
[05:14] <Foxhoundz> how can I force Ubuntu to use nVidia?
[05:14] <Foxhoundz> s/or/of
[05:14] <mrmoth> Foxhoundz: check out bumblebee
[05:14] <mrmoth> assuming your laptop uses optimus
[05:15] <cynicist> voi: if the flash video is coming from a site like youtube it is much easier to use a tool like youtube-dl to automate that stuff
[05:15] <Foxhoundz> ..wh...what's optimus?!
[05:15] <Voi> cynicist, thanks
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> MOUD, You have about one of the best on the ##Windows channel helping you don't double post.
[05:15] <dr_willis> the dual gpu thing many laptops use Foxhoundz
[05:15] <Foxhoundz> Ah
[05:16] <Foxhoundz> I can confirm that it does indeed have optimus
[05:16] <cynicist> voi: yw, you can specify using cmd line switches like -x to extract audio from video and --audio-format=X to encode to a particular audio format (I use vorbis myself)
[05:16] <dr_willis> disable one card in the bios may work also
[05:16] <MOUD> wilee-nilee: i know, but I might find other solutions here too, that's why
[05:16] <Foxhoundz> The bios is watered down
[05:16] <Foxhoundz> I can't even select boot order
[05:16] <mrmoth> k Foxhoundz, bumblebee is your best bet :3 be careful though! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> MOUD, double posting is not appreciated, and disrespectful.
[05:17] <Voi> dr_willis, winff uses ffmpeg itself, so its no help since im still missing that codec that wont install on ubuntu 13.
[05:18] <MOUD> wilee-nilee: I see. My apologies then.
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> MOUD, besides that helper there knows windows beyond anyone here that I have ever seen in years being here.
[05:18] <dr_willis> i  recall using mp3 with winff on  13.04
[05:18] <dr_willis> bbl
[05:18] <const864> hello
[05:18] <MOUD> wilee-nilee: it makes sense, it's a windows channel after all
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> MOUD, HOnestly my only real concern is your getting fixed, if your not on the channels regularly it is hard to know the best help. :)
[05:20] <const864> how i may concat 2 files or more in bash?
[05:20] <reisio> const864: cat
[05:20] <syn-ack> const864, cat >
[05:21] <reisio> cat file file file file file *wtvr*beans* > zombies
[05:21] <peterrooney> const864: cat ; also,  /join #bash for eventual enlightenment
[05:21] <syn-ack> Unless you want an overly complicated perl method
[05:21] <const864> thanks
[05:24] <cynicist> Voi: btw if you still want to use ffmpeg the package you are looking for is libavcodec-extra-53
[05:26] <reisio> mmm, ffmpeg
[05:26] <HypnotiX> how can i add more space to my ext4 partition?
[05:26] <HypnotiX> in gparted i dont have that option even thou i have 200gb of unpartitioned space
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, you on a live cd?
[05:27] <HypnotiX> no
[05:27] <reisio> you can't resize an FS that's mounted :)
[05:27] <netlar> I want to help, what can I volunteer for?
[05:27] <reisio> a partition, eben
[05:27] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, Yu can't resize a mounted partition
[05:27] <reisio> !contribute
[05:27] <reisio> ubot93: your name is wrong
[05:27] <HypnotiX> so any suggestions then
[05:28] <reisio> HypnotiX: boot up your install media, hit 'try'
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> reisio, I saw a womens name as a bot earlier.
[05:28] <reisio> wilee-nilee: what was it?
[05:28] <Rickey_Mutamid> Hello everyone, Rickey_Mutamidhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> reisio, I was on windows I forget.
[05:28] <reisio> wilee-nilee: :p
[05:29] <reisio> Rickey_Mutamid: hi
[05:29] <HypnotiX> then what reisio :)
[05:29] <gt8ost4l> does anybody know how to make transmission the default in firefox
[05:29] <reisio> HypnotiX: same thing you were doing, gparted
[05:29] <reisio> HypnotiX: keep in mind it is not 100% safe, it's more like 90% safe
[05:29] <reisio> gt8ost4l: what happens when you click a torrent link?
[05:29] <HypnotiX> hmm  i created another ext4 with that free space
[05:29] <HypnotiX> but it mounted it as media
[05:30] <reisio> HypnotiX: naturally
[05:30] <gt8ost4l> a dialog pops up and i have to choose an application but i dont know where transmission is
[05:30] <HypnotiX> ok is there a way to not mount it as media, to be a part of home? :D
[05:30] <HypnotiX> or root
[05:30] <xmetal> i'd say a bootable cd of Gparted, though a few distros have gparted on their livecd/dvds
[05:30] <reisio> gt8ost4l: /usr/bin/transmission-gtk
[05:30] <reisio> gt8ost4l: dpkg -L transmission | grep bin
[05:31] <reisio> HypnotiX: yes, but the ideal is having just one partition, not two
[05:31] <noobnoob2> Guys, I have 2 flavors of the same gtk theme; I use one of those, but I wish to use the other for specific apps, is that possible?
[05:31] <reisio> HypnotiX: it's just a hassle because of it not being 100% safe :)
[05:31] <HypnotiX> i already have two ext4 partitions because of my windows mentality :D
[05:31] <reisio> noobnoob2: anything is possible, but that sounds like it'd be tedious to pull off
[05:31] <reisio> HypnotiX: :p
[05:31] <HypnotiX> doesnt linux erase the entire ext4 partition if i have to reinstall it :P
[05:32] <reisio> HypnotiX: only if you tell it to, but why would you have to reinstall
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> !ops | Rickey_Mutamid
[05:32] <reisio> reinstalling is for closed source OSes
[05:32] <noobnoob2> reisio: I know, By possible I mean "can be done within 10 mins"
[05:32] <HypnotiX> well i had to reinstall windows once a year at least :D
[05:32] <HypnotiX> as i said i dont think in linux yet :)
[05:32] <reisio> noobnoob2: not that I know of, ask #linux or #gnome or #gtk maybe
[05:33] <reisio> HypnotiX: :p
[05:33] <noobnoob2> reisio: Thx
[05:33] <reisio> HypnotiX: figure out what you want to do and someone can explain it
[05:33] <gt8ost4l> reisio thankx it worked like a charm
[05:33] <HypnotiX> right now i have 3 ext4 partitions :(
[05:33] <reisio> heh
[05:33] <HypnotiX> i have to merge them
[05:33] <HypnotiX> without losing my data
[05:34] <reisio> HypnotiX: easier if you have empty storage space of equivalent size
[05:34] <HypnotiX> yeah i know
[05:34] <reisio> you'll need it eventually anyways, this might be a good time to get some more storage
[05:34] <reisio> also food for thought: LVM
[05:36] <xmetal> anyway you can move data from one to another then "resize" (and evetually remove, if desired) the partition that HAD the data orginally
[05:36] <xmetal> ?
[05:36] <xmetal> (if its OS files, thats not a good idea)
[05:36] <xmetal> you can break your systen that way, if you ask me
[05:37] <Voi> cynicist, ty again!
[05:38] <cynicist> voi: np :)
[05:39] <Voi> yea thats the right codec :D
[05:39] <reisio> what're you doing with ffmpeg?
[05:39] <Loshki> HypnotiX: fake it using soft links...
[05:42] <jony_easyrider> I need a twitter client for Ubuntu 12.04, any suggestion?
[05:43] <reisio> jony_easyrider: reconsideration
[05:43] <reisio> apt-cache search twitter | less
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> !info gwibber | jony_easyrider
[05:46] <jony_easyrider> gwibber wont connect to twitter :(
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> !info turpial | jony_easyrider
[05:47] <HypnotiX> Loshki: how
[05:49] <jony_easyrider> I checked turpial too... it asks for a PIN and it won't connect
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> jony_easyrider: your twitter password?
[05:53] <jony_easyrider> lotuspsychje, no, it wont connect even with my password
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> jony_easyrider: thats odd mate, gwibber and turpial should work out of the box
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> !info hotot | jony_easyrider
[05:55] <Myrtti> which version on gwibber are you using? I thought they moved to oauth
[05:55] <Myrtti> twitter that is
[05:57] <jony_easyrider> Myrtti, 3.4.2
[05:57] <jony_easyrider> Myrtti, installed from the software center
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> hmm seems like its called friends-app now
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> !info friends-app
[05:59] <reisio> that's some homepage friends-app has
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> reisio: got an url on that?
[06:00] <reisio> there's only a launchpad page AFAIK
[06:00] <bruce__> join #ubuntu
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> reisio: ah tnx
[06:02] <bruce__> How can I add downloaded apps to my apps list in the main menu in ubuntu?
[06:02] <irssi-mike> bruce__: i drag them to the bar on the left..
[06:02] <reisio> or run them and right click on'm
[06:04] <bruce__> what if there is a folder with some resources, and the app - where is a good place to put the folder?
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> bruce__: what app are you talking about exactly?
[06:05] <bruce__> its a java app called game editor...
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> bruce__:you running the linux version or you wine it?
[06:07] <bruce__> linux version i think...
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> bruce__: here's an url to make specific icons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> *launchers
[06:14] <babinlonston> How to copy a file using scp if the port is changed 3500
[06:14] <babinlonston> from a remote machine i need to copy a file but my port was changed to 3500
[06:15] <irssi-mike> did you try colon 3500 then /
[06:16] <kingjohn> !list
[06:24] <histo> babinlonston: -P #####
[06:25] <babinlonston> histo: let me givemy command what i have used
[06:25] <histo> babinlonston: scp -P 3500 somefile user@host:/wherever
[06:25] <babinlonston> histo:  ok
[06:28] <Dayummmm> Hi anyone with knowledge on domains, nameservers and DNS that could help me? :$
[06:28] <Kartagis> !find libsoundsourcem4a.so
[06:28] <histo> !anyone | Dayummmm
[06:28] <histo> Kartagis: you can pm the bot
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> Dayummmm: try ##networking
[06:29] <bodom> Does anybody know in a resyncing mdadm raid1 how to know which disk is active and which one is bein' resynced?
[06:29] <bodom> this is my conf: http://pastebin.com/bmTWF7xf
[06:29] <Dayummmm> I need some help pointing my domain to my free web hosting... I already changed the nameservers on my .tk panel to use the free hosting name servers... but the hosting provider gives me a myuser.freehosting.com sub domain...  I played with the DNS Zone settings on the hosting panel to use mysite.tk instead of mysite.freehosting.com .... my question is.. is that the way to do it? or did I do something wrong because I already spent 3 hours and I am seein
[06:29] <Dayummmm> g the DNS propagation and it shows that it has been propagated just in malaysia
[06:29] <Mot_Ah> Hello everyone, Mot_Ahhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[06:30] <iLiFo> lol!
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> Dayummmm: this is not related to ubuntu mate
[06:31] <Dayummmm> yeah but I tried everything lol
[06:31] <babinlonston> histo: scp -P 2002 sysadmin@192.168.1.99:/home/sysadmin/Desktop/iptablescript.sh sysadmin@192.168.1.77:/home/sysadmin/Desktop/ i have used this and im trying to copy a file from 192.168.1.99 to 192.168.1.77 and the port number was 2002 i got error connection refused
[06:31] <histo> Dayummmm: Yeah kind of offtopic for here I would ask in the other channels people suggested like ##networking
[06:31] <Dayummmm> I've been on #networking without any help :(
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> Dayummmm: only ubuntu supporting questions here mate
[06:31] <histo> babinlonston: why were you asking aobut port 3500 before?
[06:32] <histo> babinlonston: and can you ssh on both boxes using sysadmin on port 2002
[06:32] <babinlonston> yes i can , just i asked 3500 for example
[06:33] <Dayummmm> and thats why I am here... plan b... on my ubuntu server  do I need to setup the domain I have with dot.tk or how do I do to make the dot.tk point to my server using my server's nameservers
[06:33] <babinlonston> yes i can access the ssh sysadmin@192.168.1.77 -p 2002
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> Dayummmm: try the #ubuntu-server guys
[06:34] <Dayummmm> lol :) alright
[06:34] <histo> babinlonston: what about the other box?
[06:34] <Dayummmm> and babinlonston are you authenticating using a key?
[06:34] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, rsa or any other?
[06:36] <babinlonston> uff  i cant ssh from 192.168.1.77 to 192.168.1.99
[06:36] <babinlonston> but u can ssh from 192.168.1.99 to 77
[06:36] <histo> babinlonston: does 99 have an ssh server listening?
[06:36] <Dayummmm> on each computer do an nmap localhost and pastebin the results
[06:37] <babinlonston> how can i flush the all iptables rules , i haved used iptables -F but its not working some rules are there
[06:37] <magdur> guys i cant update my computer
[06:37] <histo> babinlonston: and I assume you are doing a copy from remote host to remote host and aren't logged into one of the machines just copying a file to another.
[06:37] <babinlonston> histo: yes
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> magdur: whats the error mate?
[06:37] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, do nmap on both computers and paste the results.... and also would be a GREAT idea to flush the ip tables
[06:37] <histo> babinlonston: is it also listening on 2002?
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> magdur: and what version of ubuntu are you on now?
[06:37] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, nmap localhost
[06:37] <babinlonston> let me check and ill give pastei
[06:38] <magdur> "check your internet connection" and 12.10
[06:38] <histo> magdur: are you connected to the internet?
[06:39] <magdur> definitely and here error  details  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5939003/
[06:39] <Karel_Islwyn> Hello everyone, Karel_Islwynhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[06:39] <histo> !backtrack | magdur
[06:39] <magdur> actually i was add to my sources backtracks sources
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> !ops | Karel_Islwyn
[06:40] <babinlonston> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5939011/
[06:40] <babinlonston> Dayummmm: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5939011/
[06:40]  * histo feels bad for all these comprimised machines used in this bot attack
[06:40] <Dayummmm> LOL
[06:40] <histo> babinlonston: ss -ant     it doesn't look like ssh is listening
[06:40] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, it is never going to work
[06:41] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, you need to start ssh listening on that port
[06:41] <babinlonston> while nmap for 192.168.1.99 from other machine shows as All 1000 ports on 192.168.1.99 are closed
[06:42] <babinlonston> histo: ya i Wrote a iptables entry shall i provide it in paste will you please review it after using that iptables only i got this issue
[06:43] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, it would be better to flush them ... but even though using iptables if the nmap is to localhost it should show if ssh port is open or not
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> babinlonston: maybe nmap -PN -sV ipadress
[06:43] <babinlonston> Dayummmm: ya how can i flush the iptables , i used iptables -F but its not working even after save its there some rules in chain and output
[06:43] <histo> babinlonston: then get rid of the entry you made
[06:43] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, so my suggestion is to restart ssh and make sure it is setup to work on port 2200
[06:43] <Dayummmm> or whatever port u are using
[06:44] <Dayummmm> histo, but the nmap is not showing that port so it means it is not running it lol
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> Dayummmm: if firewall or router doesnt block..
[06:44] <Dayummmm> lotuspsychje, on localhost?
[06:44] <Dayummmm> lotuspsychje, hehe
[06:45] <Dayummmm> the nmap scanned localhost
[06:45] <babinlonston> lol openssh was not there :o
[06:45] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, see... I was right xD
[06:45] <babinlonston> will the iptables will remove it or what ?
[06:45] <babinlonston> k
[06:45] <histo> babinlonston: sudo service sshd status
[06:45] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, no, it means that you need to start the service or install it lol
[06:46] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, and check the sshd_config as well to listen on port 2200 if that is the one u want
[06:46] <babinlonston> sudo service sshd status
[06:46] <babinlonston> sshd: unrecognized service
[06:46] <Dayummmm> sudo apt-get install sshd
[06:46] <Dayummmm> lol
[06:48] <babinlonston> did sudo apt-get install ssh  openssh-server
[06:48] <histo> babinlonston: sudo service ssh status
[06:48] <babinlonston> now nmap result is here 22/tcp  open  ssh
[06:48] <babinlonston> 631/tcp open  ipp
[06:48] <histo> sry not on ubuntu right now to check
[06:48] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, as I said before... check /etc/openssh/sshd_config
[06:48] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, and make sure it is listening on port 2200 or whatever port u use
[06:49] <histo> babinlonston: okay well you are trying 2002 and now that box is listening on 22
[06:49] <babinlonston> Dayummmm: ok
[06:49] <Dayummmm> do a
[06:49] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, nano /etc/ssh/sshd_conf
[06:49] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, then change port 22 to your port...
[06:50] <Emerentius_Metho> Hello everyone, Emerentius_Methodiushere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[06:50] <Dayummmm> then sudo service ssh restart  ..... not sure if it is ssh or sshd
[06:50] <Dayummmm> probably sshd
[06:50] <babinlonston> histo:  my local machine where im now want to be 22 port let it be , and i need to copy a file to 192.168.1.77 its in 3rd floor , that PC have the port number 2002 for ssh and its too open now . then just i need to copy the file and check as u guided me before . let u know if there is issue
[06:51] <babinlonston> Dayummmm: ya Done let me try and come back
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> !ops | Emerentius_Metho
[06:51] <Dayummmm> so I hope after helping I get good karma and someone could help me with this weird networking issue
[06:52] <babinlonston> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5939051/
[06:53] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, the command is completely wrong
[06:53] <babinlonston> :(
[06:54] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, let me make it up for you
[06:54] <babinlonston> ok
[06:56] <Dayummmm> scp -P 2002 /path/to/your/iptablescript.sh sysadmin@192.168.1.99:/home/sysadmin/Desktop/iptablescript.sh
[06:56] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, scp -P 2002 /path/to/your/iptablescript.sh sysadmin@192.168.1.99:/home/sysadmin/Desktop/iptablescript.sh
[06:56] <babinlonston> ok
[06:57] <Dayummmm> if it is not working try ... scp -P 22 /path/to/your/iptablescript.sh sysadmin@192.168.1.99:/home/sysadmin/Desktop/iptablescript.sh
[06:57] <Dayummmm> even though the 22 is not needed but just to delete less on the paste lol
[06:58] <babinlonston> Dayummmm: :D iptablescript.sh                                                                                     100% 2622     2.6KB/s   00:00
[06:58] <Dayummmm> ;)
[06:58] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, glad it worked
[06:58] <babinlonston> Thanks Dayummmm m:)
[06:58] <Dayummmm> babinlonston, you are welcome... just a suggestion.. if you like linux read the manuals hehe
[06:59] <babinlonston> Dayummmm:  Sure Sure
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | Dayummmm
[07:00] <Dayummmm> ubottu an evil cookie xD
[07:00] <Dayummmm> I'm outta here.. by everyone
[07:00] <Dayummmm> bye*
[07:10] <goddard> i love gparted
[07:14] <Marlene> why i get error while i run == add-apt-repository ppa:upubuntu-com/ppa
[07:14] <Marlene> -bash: apt-repository: command not found
[07:15] <histo> Marlene: do you have a space?
[07:16] <Marlene> yes
[07:16] <arleas> How can I reduce the fan speed of my ATI gpu when using the default drivers? The ATI drivers cause my PC to hang under 13.04.
[07:18] <ChrisMaQ>  is it worth upgrading from 12.04 to 13?
[07:19] <Marlene> any one know that error
[07:19] <Marlene> -bash: apt-repository: command not found
[07:19] <histo> ChrisMaQ: define worth?
[07:19] <kohvihoo1> Marlene: do you have a package 'python-software-properties' installed?
[07:20] <histo> Marlene: can you pastebin the command you are enterring
[07:21] <Marlene> kohvihoo1 : yes
[07:21] <ChrisMaQ> are the upgrades in 13 that much better to warrant an upgrade especially given the fact its not a LTS
[07:22] <reisio> ChrisMaQ: how long exactly do you plan on not updating? :p
[07:22] <joshu> hi before i could access the cups web interface and making changes without being asked for my password. Now for some reason I have not been able to explain I'm asked for my username and password and every time they are rejected.
[07:23] <kohvihoor> Marlene: how about software-properties-common?
[07:23] <Marlene> kohvihoor :not installed
[07:24] <Marlene> i will install it now
[07:24] <histo> ChrisMaQ: just wait for 14.04
[07:24] <histo> ChrisMaQ: if you want LTS that is
[07:25] <histo> joshu: what?  can you rephrase that?
[07:25] <ChrisMaQ> im a newbie to linux/ubuntu been using it on and off for years but recently decided to single boot and commit entirely to it... i run dual monitor setup and it took me a while to get everything running jus how i want
[07:25] <reisio> ChrisMaQ: gj
[07:26] <ChrisMaQ> the only reason for a virtual machine is ps-cs6 because i havent fully learnt gimp as yet
[07:26] <wildon> come on its simple
[07:28] <ChrisMaQ> well i am in love with ubuntu and i have maya on a old laptop i use when im in bed and its awesome ... only trouble i have is skype on ubuntu but some strange reason it runs great on my maya
[07:28] <reisio> maya is some tablet I take it?
[07:28] <histo> ChrisMaQ: what is maya?
[07:29] <reisio> oh an edition of mint
[07:29]  * reisio stabs codenames
[07:29] <ChrisMaQ> yea
[07:29] <magdur> guys which one ubuntu 12.04 lts or 13.04 for a new ubuntu user ?ü
[07:29] <reisio> magdur: coming from... Windows?
[07:30] <magdur> actuaaly same time windows same time 12.10
[07:30] <histo> magdur: depends on what they are doing
[07:30] <histo> magdur: is it a production machine or home use?
[07:30] <reisio> magdur: you're already used to GNU/Linux, then
[07:30] <histo> magdur: also did you get your repo's sorted out?
[07:31] <magdur> histo: generally home use addition learning programming python and java
[07:31] <reisio> there's really no reason to avoid updating something for more than a year (or remotely near a year)
[07:31] <reisio> desktop or otherwise
[07:31] <histo> magdur: go with 13.04 then
[07:32] <magdur> histo actually i want to a clear install and i want to use every time
[07:32] <tones> what about older hardware as a reason to not update?
[07:32] <reisio> magdur: you know any other languages?
[07:32] <magdur> turkish ?
[07:32] <reisio> tones: that'd have to be some really old hardware, justifying replacement
[07:32] <magdur> reisio i know turkish
[07:33] <histo> tones: what regression?
[07:33] <reisio> magdur: programming languages :)
[07:33] <tones> athlon x2, 1.5 gigs ram
[07:33] <magdur> sorry :) no i dont nothing :)
[07:34] <magdur> histo why 13.04 i read about 13.04 has  a lot of bugs
[07:36] <histo> magdur: then use 12.04 it's all free choice is yours. I don't even run ubuntu
[07:36] <reisio> histo: well then who is in charge?!
[07:36]  * reisio :p's
[07:36] <ChrisMaQ> what do u run #histo
[07:36] <histo> arch linux on this lappy
[07:36] <ChrisMaQ> oh cool
[07:37] <reisio> how many distros do you run? :p
[07:37] <magdur> hmm ok guys are you suggest arch linux ?
[07:38] <histo> On my laptop arch linux on my home server debian and ubuntu on one of my desktops
[07:38] <histo> magdur: no
[07:38] <ChrisMaQ> its more command line
[07:38] <magdur> ok histo i think it is for servers isnt it ?
[07:39] <histo> magdur: no arch is a rolling release distro I wouldn't let it near any servers
[07:40] <histo> magdur: I'd run ubuntu LTS or debian on a server
[07:40] <werxxx> My linux sistem have not detected a usb flash drive
[07:40] <histo> werxxx: check lsusb and dmesg when you insert it
[07:40] <arleas> How can I reduce the fan speed of my ATI gpu when using the default drivers? The ATI drivers cause my PC to hang under 13.04.
[07:41] <reisio> histo: you're a sick sick man :p
[07:41] <magdur> thank hmm ok for everythink and i go and download 12.04 lts  and install it  thank for suggestion
[07:42] <werxxx> histo but it may connect my android phone
[07:42] <magdur> histo yes i sort out with repo's :)
[07:43] <werxxx> What I do wrong
[07:43] <kohvihoor> werxxx: what may connect your phone?
[07:43] <yalu> how to add a user to an existing group in ubuntu 12.4? most importantly: in a graphical way
[07:43] <yalu> the standard dialog does not allow it anymore
[07:44] <histo> magdur: I was going to say you could sed -i '/backtrack/ s/^/#/' /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:44] <Marlene> how to upgrade from this ==  "12.04.2 LTS, Precise Pangolin"  to latest version of ubuntu
[07:44] <histo> !upgrade | Marlene
[07:44] <kohvihoor> Marlene: one by one
[07:44] <histo> yalu: Can't you do it int he GUI users thing anymore?
[07:44] <werxxx> Android may detect microSD
[07:45] <ChrisMaQ> is there a hack for unity to allow u to see programs installed without searching?
[07:46] <histo> yalu: sudo usermod -a -G group user
[07:46] <histo> ChrisMaQ: the software center?
[07:46] <histo> ChrisMaQ: or dpkg -l
[07:46] <yalu> histo: I had a note on this somewhere. in 12.10 it has become more useful again. but  I want to install an LTS
[07:46] <histo> werxxx: what are you talking about?
[07:46] <reisio> ChrisMaQ: what histo said
[07:46] <yalu>  histo that would do just fine for *me*, but I am installing this system in a school
[07:47]  * yalu installs gnome-system-tools
[07:48] <werxxx> I can't my usb connect
[07:49] <histo> werxxx: what is your native language
[07:49]  * histo cringes for some random language with impossible to guess bot trigger
[07:49] <Marlene> root@root:~# update-manager -d
[07:49] <Marlene> -bash: update-manager: command not found
[07:50] <histo> Marlene: did you read the directions
[07:50] <werxxx> histo I'm from russian
[07:50] <histo> !ru | werxxx
[07:51] <Marlene> yes iam upgrading first from 12.04 to 12.10
[07:51] <histo> Marlene: do you have update-manager installed?
[07:52] <histo> Marlene: and are you trying to upgrade to the latest LTS or to 13.04?
[07:52] <histo> Marlene: if it's a server install you will need to sudo apt-get install update-manager-core
[07:52] <werxxx> They are banned me histo :'(
[07:52] <Marlene> lastes ubuntu version
[07:52] <Marlene> i use ssh server
[07:52] <histo> Marlene: if you just want the latest LTS sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:53] <histo> Marlene: then install update-manager-core and follow the directions for ubuntu servers
[07:53] <histo> Marlene: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades#Ubuntu_Servers_.28Recommended.29
[07:53] <histo> !details | werxxx
[07:54] <arleas> How can I reduce the fan speed of my ATI gpu when using the default drivers? The ATI drivers cause my PC to hang under 13.04.
[07:55] <arleas> Think I'm going to have to give up with Ubuntu for another couple of years until the bugs are fixed - I really like the distro too
[07:55] <kohvihoor> arleas: whats your gpu model?
[07:56] <Albert_Zlatan> Hello everyone, Albert_Zlatanhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[07:56] <histo> !ops | Albert_Zlatan
[07:57] <Pricey> histo: Have they done anything else?
[07:57] <histo> Pricey: they will
[07:57] <kohvihoor> arleas: have you tried this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/116005/gnome-3-ati-fan-always-on/116045#116045
[07:58] <arleas> kohvihoor: ati 6870
[07:58] <ChrisMaQ> does anyone run docks for their ubuntu 12.04 setup .. how is it?
[07:58] <arleas> kohvihoor: I don't understand the instructions!
[07:58] <histo> ChrisMaQ: there are tons of docks to choose from in linux
[07:58] <ChrisMaQ> histo: are they stable?
[07:58] <ChrisMaQ> and glitch free
[07:59] <arleas> kohvihoor: Also, Jupiter is not available when using apt-get
[07:59] <etherape_> Hi guys, quick question (im already googling around for a day). Does someone knows if it is possible to remove the user name from the gnome lock dialog?
[07:59] <etherape_> this is needed because of PCI rules..
[07:59] <histo> etherape_: then how would you know which pass to use?
[08:00] <kohvihoor> arleas: what ubuntu version?
[08:00] <etherape_> we have one laptop per user
[08:00] <arleas> kohvihoor: 13.04
[08:00] <etherape_> so each system has only one end-user
[08:00] <histo> etherape_: and are you using unity or gnome?
[08:01] <etherape_> unity, but i uses the gnome-screensaver dialog
[08:01] <etherape_> just the defaults
[08:03] <histo> etherape_: maybe in gconf somewhere
[08:03] <etherape_> yeah that's where im browsing around but thnx for the suggestion :-)
[08:04] <werxxx> histo when I connect to ubuntu via android phone (alcatel) I can see  usb drive (sdb1), but I can't see it when connecting via cardreader
[08:04] <histo> werxxx: what type of card reader?
[08:05] <werxxx> I have kubuntu 10.04
[08:05] <kohvihoor> arleas: when does the system hang if you use the fglrx driver?
[08:06] <arleas> at the log in screen
[08:06] <arleas> kohvihoor: at the login screen - if I boot using reduced graphics mode (or whatever it's called from the boot options), Unity doesn't work. I had to format my installation to get it to work again.
[08:07] <histo> werxxx: is it a usb card reader?
[08:07] <kohvihoor> arleas: it sounds like driver is not installed properly
[08:07] <kohvihoor> did you do aticonfig --initial after you installed the driver?
[08:08] <blazemore> !lucid | werxxx
[08:09] <arleas> kohvihoor: I installed it using the software updater/app store, but had a 'unsuported hardware' water mark and some screen tearing. I then uninstalled it the same way, and downloaded the drivers from AMD. That's when all the problems started - one of them being it didn't seem to support dual monitors, as it would give an error saying the screen resolution is not supported
[08:10] <arleas> kohvihoor: So... no - I didn't know you had to use aticonfig --initial after installing
[08:11] <kohvihoor> arleas: ah, yea, if you install the drivers from amd's site, you'll have to run this command
[08:11] <nathanesau1> anyone here used virtual box?
[08:11] <kohvihoor> you can try this howto: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Raring_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.29
[08:11] <werxxx> No
[08:11] <kohvihoor> it has always worked for me
[08:12] <arleas> kohvihoor: thanks mate - I'll give it a go
[08:14] <kohvihoor> arleas: if everything goes well, then you can configure your dual monitor setup through the catalyst control center :)
[08:14] <nathanesau1> im using virtual box in ubuntu
[08:15] <nathanesau1> and i can boot windows xp setup in virtual box
[08:15] <nathanesau1> i.e. "press f12 to continue"
[08:15] <nathanesau1> but that prompt does appear when i restart my computer
[08:15] <nathanesau1> in fact the disc is not recognized, it is skipped over
[08:15] <nathanesau1> and i cant boot from it
[08:15] <histo> nathanesau1: is it ejected?
[08:15] <nathanesau1> but in virtual box i can
[08:16] <nathanesau1> no - its the original xp home edition disc
[08:16] <nathanesau1> in my disc drive
[08:16] <blazemore> nathanesau1: You need to set your BIOS to boot from CD/DVD first
[08:16] <kohvihoor> nathanesau1: sound like your first boot device in bios is not the cdrom
[08:16] <blazemore> nathanesau1: Not really an Ubuntu support question though
[08:16] <nathanesau1> where should i ask this
[08:17] <blazemore> Well you've been given the correct answer now so it doesn't matter
[08:17] <nathanesau1> im not sure if you understand
[08:17] <nathanesau1> the computer does not recognize that there is a disk in the drive
[08:17] <sssilver> Hey guys... I'm reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver but I can't find the section where it actually installs the driver
[08:17] <nathanesau1> so it does not show up
[08:17] <nathanesau1> in the bios
[08:18] <nathanesau1> but it does recognize there is the SAME boot disk in the drive in virtual box
[08:18] <blazemore> nathanesau1: Does your BIOS support booting from CD?
[08:18] <nathanesau1> i was able to boot from a xubuntu cd
[08:18] <nathanesau1> but i cant boot from the windows xp cd
[08:18] <kohvihoor> sssilver: open source radeon driver should be automatically installed
[08:19] <nathanesau1> im not sure if its because of differences in the types of operating system / disc ???
[08:19] <blazemore> nathanesau1: Is there an option when you turn on your PC, to enter a boot menu?
[08:19] <nathanesau1> no
[08:19] <nathanesau1> no option
[08:19] <blazemore> nathanesau1: OK so go into the BIOS
[08:19] <sssilver> kohvihoor, so then how do I verify that everything's OK on my system? because graphics seems to be very slow, and I don't get transparency in my X
[08:19] <nathanesau1> yes????
[08:20] <blazemore> nathanesau1: It's different in every BIOS but you have to set it to boot from CD before it tries to boot from hard drive
[08:20] <nathanesau1> it wont let me do that though
[08:20] <blazemore> "won't let you" ?
[08:20] <nathanesau1> cd doesn't show up
[08:20] <nathanesau1> the only boot option is "ubuntu"
[08:21] <blazemore> !uefi
[08:21] <nathanesau1> how do you make the other options appear
[08:21] <blazemore> nathanesau1: That depends on your BIOS. What motherboard/laptop do you have?
[08:21] <nathanesau1> i have a asus laptop
[08:21] <nathanesau1> originally had windows 8
[08:21] <blazemore> nathanesau1: asus makes a lot of laptops
[08:21] <nathanesau1> not intel
[08:21] <nathanesau1> amd
[08:22] <blazemore> nathanesau1: What is the model number?
[08:22] <Ben64> nathanesau1: what are you trying to accomplish
[08:22] <kohvihoor> nathanesau1: if you have uefi, you can't install windows xp on it
[08:22] <nathanesau1> asus k75
[08:22] <nathanesau1> what do you mean kohvihoor
[08:22] <blazemore> nathanesau1: Modern PCs can't run windows XP
[08:22] <uzer> does anyone know how to setup dual monitors xorg with nvidia binary? I need to have both monitors running on diffrent custom edids or same edids.  right now it only uses one custom edid for one monitor. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5939284/
[08:23] <Ben64> nathanesau1: what are you trying to accomplish, what is your goal? what is stopping you right now?
[08:23] <nathanesau1> i want to boot a windows install disc
[08:23] <nathanesau1> i can only do it in virtual box
[08:24] <nathanesau1> not from startup
[08:24] <Ben64> join ##windows
[08:24] <Ben64> this is Ubuntu support only
[08:24] <MrQuist> hey guys
[08:24] <MrQuist> WHy isn't my interface renamed? I've edited /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[08:24] <MrQuist> service udev restart; service networking restart;
[08:25] <MrQuist> then "ip a s" still shows the old interface name
[08:25] <uzer> anyone.. :(
[08:26] <blazemore> !patience | uzer
[08:32] <uzer> does anyone know how to setup dual monitors xorg with nvidia binary? I need to have both monitors running on diffrent custom edids or same edids.  right now it only uses one custom edid for one monitor. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5939284/
[08:32] <blazemore> uzer: ...
[08:32] <uzer> what? "Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly"
[08:33] <uzer> i repeated my question slowly. is that not fast enough
[08:33] <blazemore> Nobody said anything in between ubottu and you re-asking your question
[08:33] <uzer> empathy is irc takes up the whole screen, so i cant really know how your irc looks like
[08:33] <uzer> but yea
[08:34] <johndoe2> Hi. I made a big bummer by starting  "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.2.0-2*". Now it's removing all my kernels in a loop, it seems. Can I interrupt it somehow? So far, I just stopped the process.
[08:34] <blazemore> johndoe2: try sudo apt-get -f install
[08:34] <johndoe2> while it's stopped?
[08:34] <blazemore> johndoe2: yes
[08:35] <johndoe2> blazemore, E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:35] <MrQuist> uzer -> What the hell are you blarping about? blazemore tells you "Dont repeat" and you say "Yeah but you don't know how your irc looks like"
[08:35] <blazemore> johndoe2: sudo killall apt-get; sudo apt-get -f install
[08:36] <MrQuist> killall is threaded
[08:36] <uzer> You dont need to be offensive about it. thats just rude
[08:36] <MrQuist> I just don't see how thats related.
[08:36] <MrQuist> Because you probably like potatos!
[08:36] <uzer> I dont see how you are related to my discussion with blazemore
[08:36] <\du> hello
[08:36] <MrQuist> Oh sorry, i thought this was a public channel
[08:36] <MrQuist> you're not helping yourself uzer
[08:37] <uzer> Oh sorry, i thought this was a friendly channel
[08:37] <johndoe2> blazemore, thanks very much. It told me to run sudo dpkg --configure -a which sought it out.
[08:37] <MrQuist> We are friendly
[08:37] <MrQuist> if you play by the rules
[08:37] <blazemore> That's good johndoe2
[08:38] <MrQuist> johndoe2, what would happen if you had a power failure in between? hehe :P
[08:38] <uzer> No i am not helping myself. thats why i am here, to get some help. But yeah. You are not friendly. so its a little scewed to talk for anybody but yourselve.
[08:38] <uzer> yourself*
[08:38] <johndoe2> blazemore, I thought it would use globbing and not regexp. really stupid not to check it...
[08:39] <\du> i am running apt-get -y --force-yes dist-upgrade, but still i have a dialog that say "Configuration file '/etc/xxxx' ==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation. etc.. etc.. (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] "
[08:39] <\du> any idea because the -y and --force-yes it's not working ?
[08:39] <blazemore> \du: try --force-all maybe?
[08:40] <\du> blazemore, i will try it thanks
[08:40] <uzer> \du sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:41] <ajdlinux> So I've just installed Kubuntu 13.04 from a USB on a Windows 7 machine, and Windows 7 has started blue-screening on startup with the blue screen flashing too quickly to read before immediately rebooting. Any suggestions?
[08:41] <TheBrayn> sounds like a windows problem -> ##windows
[08:42] <uzer> Thats most definitely a windows question.
[08:42] <gatuzzo> hello
[08:42] <gatuzzo> good mornin
[08:42] <inerkick> I am using ubuntu 12.10 and having issue installing virtualwrapper. I could see that I have installed virtualenv and virtualwrapper. But I don't see it working as per this guidelines "http://www.rosslaird.com/blog/first-steps-with-mezzanine/"    http://paste.ubuntu.com/5939333/
[08:43] <gatuzzo> can someone explain me howto to install adobe flash player on ubuntu
[08:43] <uzer> ajdlinux you might try to remove any excess ramsticks from your motherboard. and retry. else its probably the mbr or something like that
[08:43] <TheBrayn\0> inerkick: so?
[08:43] <uzer> which would mean you need to reinstall windows
[08:43] <ajdlinux> uzer: I'm going to hazard a guess and say it's partition-resizing related
[08:44] <klevin> Hello Guys
[08:44] <blazemore> gatuzzo: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:44] <klevin> Does anyone try to install ubuntu desktop from ftp locla server?
[08:44] <inerkick> how to get virtualwrapper installed. and working TheBrayn\0 .
[08:45] <klevin> Does anyone try to install ubuntu desktop from ftp local server?
[08:45] <uzer> ajdlinux you like to live on the dangerous side dont you.
[08:45] <klevin> Does anyone try to install ubuntu desktop from ftp local server?
[08:45] <blazemore> !patience | klevin
[08:45] <uzer> :3
[08:46] <ddssc> wherte are ubunu install logs? I want to see which user installed what and when
[08:46] <TheBrayn\0> inerkick: you did not say which problems you have
[08:46] <ddssc> thanks
[08:46] <Gatuzzo> blazemore, tks mate it worked :)
[08:46] <blazemore> ddssc: All logs are usually in the /var/log directory
[08:46] <ddssc> blazemore: I know that. where are ubuntu INSTALL logs tho?
[08:47] <ddssc> or how do I grep them
[08:47] <ddssc> from syslog or whatever
[08:47] <uzer> does anyone know how to setup dual monitors xorg with nvidia binary? I need to have both monitors running on diffrent custom edids or same edids.  right now it only uses one custom edid for one monitor. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5939284/
[08:47] <ajdlinux> uzer: yeah, it comes with the kind of person who runs Debian experimental
[08:47] <TheBrayn\0> inerkick: nvm, I didn't see the pastebin
[08:47] <nogood> dpkg.log
[08:47] <TheBrayn\0> no idea though, sounds like a python related question
[08:47] <Gatuzzo> see you later
[08:47] <Gatuzzo> :)
[08:47] <inerkick> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5939333/
[08:47] <TheBrayn\0> which should probably go in #python
[08:48] <blazemore> ddssc: The file /var/log/auth.log shows you what users authenticated as root
[08:48] <Ben64> uzer: why not let the card detect the monitors?
[08:49] <ChrisMaQ> jus tried cairo dock and hated it ... what is the best dock for ubuntu?
[08:49] <blazemore> !best | ChrisMaQ
[08:49] <uzer> ben64: The monitors and card is fine, edids is the only way to overclock the refresh rate though, xrandr doesnt work... ever.
[08:50] <Ben64> uzer: looks like you get to dig through nvidias documentation then
[08:50] <blazemore> uzer: You just used the words "overclock the refresh rate", I'd strongly recommend you stop doing whatever it is you are trying to do
[08:50] <ChrisMaQ> brb
[08:50] <uzer> blazemore and why is that?
[08:50] <blazemore> uzer: You're likely to make a mistake based on your lack of knowledge/ability/experience
[08:50] <Gatuzzo> wassup, im back
[08:51] <uzer> i am not experimenting here. I know all my syncs and whatnot. front porch backporch, tried to use a custom xmodeline but again xrandr never works.
[08:51] <Gatuzzo> is deluge as strong as a downloader ratio as Vuze or any other torrent ???
[08:51] <uzer> blazemore, Thats quiet the assumption.
[08:51] <ChrisMaQ> im ack
[08:51] <ChrisMaQ> back
[08:51] <ChrisMaQ> need help choa good launcher
[08:52] <blazemore> Gatuzzo: I use Deluge, it's my favourite client
[08:52] <Gatuzzo> blazemore, can i achieve with it high download ratios as i do in Vuze ?
[08:53] <blazemore> Gatuzzo: Only as fast as your Internet connection
[08:53] <Gatuzzo> ok
[08:54] <Gatuzzo> blazemore, know any good app to creat apps for iphone for free ?
[08:54] <Ben64> Gatuzzo: this channel is for ubuntu support only, not iphone nor bittorrent
[08:54] <blazemore> Gatuzzo: No, and that's offtopic anyway. Ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:55] <Gatuzzo> ok
[08:55] <Gatuzzo> see u later
[08:55] <blazemore> He was odd
[08:56] <uzer> ...
[08:56] <nathanbz> will www-data always have the same uid ?
[08:57] <blazemore> no nathanbz
[08:58] <uzer> does anyone know how to setup dual monitors xorg with nvidia binary? I need to have both monitors running on diffrent custom edids or same edids.  right now it only uses one custom edid for one monitor. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5939284/
[08:59] <csrgxtu> hi, i am running some programs I write in ubuntu, but it takes hours, is there any tech to make it faster?
[08:59] <Nicolaas_Mikhah> Hello everyone, Nicolaas_Mikhahhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[08:59] <uzer> lol
[08:59] <blazemore> lol Nicolaas_Mikhah
[08:59] <uzer> kill it with fire.
[09:00] <Artemis3> anon ops? wrong channel and network :P
[09:00] <blazemore> Do you have an Ubuntu support question Nicolaas_Mikhah ?
[09:00] <uzer> oh mighty devines, i summon your ban hammer of wrath to strike down on Nicolaas and may the gods bless us all.
[09:01] <Ben64> we don't need the commentary
[09:01] <Marlene> i get this error http://pastebin.com/BjGieqbQ
[09:01] <\du> blazemore, don't work :( and i was confuse this is the command that i was running apt-get -f -y --force-yes --force-all install
[09:01] <blazemore> Marlene: Are you using Backtrack?
[09:02] <blazemore> \du: --force-all instead of --force-yes
[09:02] <Ben64> !backtrack | Marlene
[09:02] <Marlene> blazemore : no iam add backtrack repository in source list
[09:03] <\du> blazemore, i run "apt-get -f -y --force-yes --force-all install" and the result was "Command line option --force-all is not understood"
[09:03] <\du> see that i am doing a -f to resolve unmed dependency
[09:05] <uzer> does anyone know how to setup dual monitors xorg with nvidia binary? I need to have both monitors running on diffrent custom edids or same edids.  right now it only uses one custom edid for one monitor. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5939284/
[09:05] <blazemore> !patience | uzer
[09:06] <csrgxtu> hi, i am running some programs I write in ubuntu, but it takes hours, is there any tech to make it faster?
[09:06] <uzer> Stop doing that.
[09:06] <blazemore> uzer: no, you
[09:07] <uzer> blazemore, i have the feeling you are quite the casuist. I am merely asking questions.
[09:07] <blazemore> The same question*
[09:08] <uzer> i cant ask too many questions?
[09:08] <Ben64> the general consensus is waiting 15-20 minutes before repeating
[09:08] <blazemore> No, but you can ask the same question too many times
[09:09] <uzer> Ben64 I might consider that inefficient.
[09:09] <blazemore> uzer: I consider it inefficient to queue in the supermarket, but I do it anyway
[09:09] <Marlene> blazemore : no iam add backtrack repository in source list
[09:10] <Marlene> i get this error after upgrade ing ubuntu
[09:10] <uzer> blazemore, but their is no queue here. see you actually are a casuist
[09:10] <uzer> ;3
[09:10] <Ben64> uzer: just stop filling the channel with nonsense
[09:10] <blazemore> I have a meeting now, good luck finding someone to help you uzer
[09:10] <uzer> :( i will need it.
[09:10] <Ben64> Marlene: it is not supported to add other repositories to ubuntu
[09:11] <Ben64> uzer: then go read the nvidia documentations
[09:11] <uzer> this is a Xserver related matter.
[09:11] <uzer> ben64
[09:11] <Ben64> its nvidia driver related
[09:11] <uzer> Nvidia uses xserver.
[09:12] <Ben64> well the nvidia gurus aren't here, so start reading more and repeating less
[09:12] <Marlene> so i must remove this backtrack repositories
[09:12] <Ben64> Marlene: if you want support here, yes, but you might have already broken stuff
[09:12] <uzer> irc is reading also :(
[09:13] <jone> hi
[09:13] <Orion78> I have a problem with grub. When power-on a computer that was hibernated grub waits infinitely for manual selection, while if I power-on a computer that was simply shutdown grub normally timeouts and process to boot default selection. How to force grub to timeout and boot default selection also after hibernation? And please please please, dont tell me that it is dangerous thing to do, I know it!
[09:13] <Pricey> Ben64: If we don't know the answer, lets just stop responding. Maybe someone else will see uzer's question and be able to help. People are joining and leaving all the time. There's lots of scrollback! As long as you don't spam your question too often its not a crime.
[09:14] <uzer> Pricey: I concur.
[09:16] <Ben64> when i can see the same question twice without having to scroll, it's too often. its 2:15 - 5:15 in the US, where most of the people that would know the answer to that question live.
[09:18] <uzer> Ben64, Every IRC client has its own way of displaying text. Some need more scroll/resolution then others. I am troubling you by having a different computer setup?
[09:19] <Ben64> it's just too often! stop arguing and use that energy to read the nvidia docs
[09:21] <Flannel> uzer: He does have a point though, you should post it only a few times an hour.  People wake up and read backscroll, especially when its this slow, so someone will see it.  You've just gotta wait for the right person to wake up.
[09:21] <k1l> could we please stick to actual support in here? uzer dont spam your question. if noone knows how to run custom-edids (do you really need custom edids?) ask some time later or try askubuntu or forums
[09:21] <uzer> I am not arguing. To argue is to persuade someone to do something their way. The only one who is, by definition, arguing is you. Seeing you are trying to persuade me to stop asking questions.
[09:24] <uzer> does anyone know how to setup dual monitors xorg with nvidia binary? I need to have both monitors running on diffrent custom edids or same edids.  right now it only uses one custom edid for one monitor. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5939284/
[09:24] <mabrey> hi
[09:25] <Orion78> what is the name of the channel for development ubuntu version?
[09:25] <mabrey> am having  problems installing ubuntu in windows 8
[09:25] <DJones> Orion78: #ubuntu+1
[09:25] <k1l> mabrey: dont use wubi
[09:25] <Orion78> DJones: thank you
[09:25] <k1l> mabrey: make a real install on own partitions
[09:25] <\du> arrggg, c'mon apt get! do you have option to force yes and don't work! for this thing and more i prefer pacman.. over archlinux grr
[09:26] <uzer> What kind of problems mabrey?
[09:27] <mabrey> windows not recognising installation files on my usb drive
[09:27] <foobArrrr> If I don't have a network connection, e.g. because the router is powered down, ubuntu waits two minutes at boot saying "Waiting for network configuration". 1) why does it do that? 2) how do I prevent that? (Ubuntu 12.04)
[09:28] <uzer> What installation files? The ubuntu ones?
[09:29] <Marlene> another error after i remove backtrack  repositories http://pastebin.com/HtvWT1Kh
[09:29] <uzer> foobArrrr It seems that is a PXE issue. Is it enabled in Bios
[09:29] <mabrey> yes uzer
[09:29] <uzer> Are you using wubi?
[09:30] <Orion78> How to enable autoresume from hibernation? Right now grub waits infinitely for user choice.
[09:30] <lotia> any way to forward shell key bindings via ssh config? e.g. I can do 'set +o vi' to get vi key bindings in bash. But if I want to forward that option to remote machines to which I log in is there an ssh config option I can set?
[09:30] <mabrey> No
[09:31] <uzer> So what exactly are you trying to do. I have no problem playing trivia, but it could take a while mind you.
[09:32] <vadi> Are there any apps that help track which applications have used how much data? I'm having to use a data connection.
[09:32] <mabrey> when i insert my flashdrive that contains my ubuntu files, windows does not display my bootable ubuntu file
[09:33] <uzer> vadi http://bit.ly/14nphtC
[09:33] <Ben64> mabrey: what does that mean
[09:33] <Ben64> !google | uzer
[09:33] <vadi> uzer: very helpful! Not. I was seeking practical advice from people who have tried them.
[09:34] <Marlene> iam try to fix my error but get many errors [09:34] <Marlene> please somebody answer
[09:35] <uzer> I was not telling anyone to google it. I am giving specific keywords that might be of use to the person asking questions. It would be unethical to provide answers as my own if i was merely copy pasting the solution.
[09:35] <k1l> !guidelines > uzer
[09:35] <uzer> I am sorry if you were offended by that.
[09:36] <k1l> uzer: stop acting like that in this support channel. stick to the rules like every other user.
[09:36] <vadi> uzer: oh, I see. ok
[09:37] <Ben64> vadi: to sort of answer your question, i keep a shell running bwmon-ng all the time to monitor bandwidth. it doesn't break it down by process/application though, but you can get a running total and current throughput
[09:38] <uzer> k1l, As you can abstract from my previous answer, i was not know you cant tell anyone to google something, Although i was not actually telling someone to do so.
[09:39] <MonkeyDust> uzer  understood, now let's move on, shall we
[09:39] <uzer> Well he kicked me out of the channel. i find that offensive and rude to be honest. So i wanted to be clear about my motive.
[09:40] <ole`01> Hi. I have a problem with mime type of .webm videos. On my local machine, php gets the correct mime type, which is video/webm. But my virtual server gets it as application/octet-stream. Configuration has been made through a file /etc/apache/conf.d/mimetypes.conf which defines webm, ogg and mp4 via 'AddType video/webm .webm' ...
[09:40] <Orion78> How to enable autoresume from hibernation? Right now grub waits indefinitely for user choice.
[09:40] <k1l> uzer: i muted you know because this is not a debating club. keep this channel clear for support. i will unmute you in 20 mins.
[09:41] <MonkeyDust> Orion78  after you selected Ubuntu in the grub, resume can start
[09:41] <blazemore> mabrey: To install Ubuntu from a USB flash drive, use a tool like Linux Live USB or unetbootin to create a bootable flashdrive, then reboot your computer and use your BIOS's boot menu to boot from the flash drive
[09:41] <Ben64> ole`01: you may want to try asking in #ubuntu-server as well
[09:42] <ole`01> thx, I will try
[09:42] <Orion78> MonkeyDust: yes, if I select Ubuntu manually it starts alright, but necessity to select Ubuntu manually is annoying as hell.
[09:42] <MonkeyDust> Orion78  while ubuntu is in hibernation, you can choose to go in windows, in thre grub... after that you can still reboot and resume ubuntu
[09:42] <Orion78> MonkeyDust: I dont care for this "feature".
[09:43] <Orion78> MonkeyDust: I want auto resume.
[09:43] <mabrey> blazemore:  thanks
[09:43] <MonkeyDust> Orion78  you want the grub waiting time set to 0? that has nothing to do with hibernation
[09:43] <Orion78> MonkeyDust: Or auto-resume after time out (which I prefere).
[09:44] <Orion78> MonkeyDust: If it does nothing to do with hibernation why did you mentioned it? I did not mentioned it.
[09:44] <Marlene> i get erros evertime i try to install any programmes [09:45] <MonkeyDust> Orion78  you mentioned both hibernation and grub, first
[09:45] <Orion78> MonkeyDust: because it is grub that missbehaves.
[09:46] <blazemore> Marlene: sudo touch /var/run/utmp; sudo chmod 644 /var/run/utmp; sudo reboot
[09:46] <Orion78> MonkeyDust: and it missbehaves only after hibernation.
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> Orion78  do you want to get rid of the grub menu? the time out can be set to 0
[09:46] <blazemore> Marlene: After reboot, do "sudo apt-get -f install"
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> Orion78  grub misbehaves after hibernation? that sounds odd
[09:46] <Orion78> MonkeyDust: I had this setting already/
[09:47] <masood> hi
[09:47] <uvala> hello everyone! a friend sent me photos, and all of them are shown black on shotwell and image viewer, the latter shows the error: "Error interpreting JPEG image file (Could not load image 'DSC05495.JPG'. Improper call to JPEG library in state 200)...can I make them visible somehow?
[09:48] <masood> I have a question about users and groups in linux?
[09:48] <jrib> masood: just ask it :)
[09:48] <blazemore> uvala: How did your friend send you the photos?
[09:48] <uvala> blazemore: via email
[09:48] <Ben64> Orion78: the top answer here seems to be a solution to your issue http://askubuntu.com/questions/178091/how-to-disable-grubs-menu-from-showing-up-after-failed-boot
[09:49] <Orion78> MonkeyDust: again, if I boot normally grub waits specified amount of time and boots default system, if I boot my computer after hibernation then grub wait indefinitely for user to select/confirm menu entry and THEN process to boot. I want grub to to auto-boot also after hibrentation with timeout or not, I dont care that much.
[09:49] <masood> There is a linux server that already configured. my account is in admin group, but when I look to /etc/group, there is no admin group there?!
[09:50] <masood> I just know the ldap is also included
[09:50] <Orion78> Ben64: I will test it right now and report back.
[09:50] <Ben64> Orion78: don't forget the update grub command
[09:50] <MonkeyDust> Orion78  i'm not sure how grub and hibernation are related, but i'm sure someone else knows and can help
[09:51] <nnyk_> Morning. Please i'd like to know if the 3.5 kernel that ships with Ubuntu 12.04 has pae support built in. I tried 'apt-get install linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae' but it installed installed a '3.2.0-51-generic-pae' which i think is different from the kernel version I have installed. Asides from that i have to update both kernel images every time there is an update i.e one for 3.5-generic and another for the 3.2-generic-pae. Is that right or is
[09:51] <nnyk_> there something i've missed?
[09:51] <masood> jrib: There is a linux server that already configured. my account is in admin group, but when I look to /etc/group, there is no admin group there?!
[09:51] <masood> I just know the ldap is also included
[09:52] <jrib> masood: getent group
[09:52] <Ben64> nnyk_: i believe all the kernels now have pae
[09:52] <uvala> blazemore: apparently the problem may be with photos themselves, just saw recently downloaded photos appear normally
[09:52] <uvala> sorry
[09:52] <blazemore> uvala: It's very likely
[09:53] <masood> jrib: yes that's available in getent, now my problem is that, this group belongs to which service and how can I add users to this group?
[09:53] <A1Recon> Sometimes when I open VLC Media Player on Ubuntu, there are 2 Xs on the upper left corner and if I click the lower one the window behind VLC closes. Is this a problem of Ubuntu or VLC?
[09:53] <jrib> masood: I'm not familiar with ldap, you have an ldap question
[09:53] <jrib> masood: I would assume you can just use addgroup, but that may be wrong
[09:53] <Orion78> Ben64: It works!
[09:53] <Orion78> Ben64: Thanks!
[09:53] <jrib> masood: sorry, I meant "adduser"
[09:54] <masood> jrib: u're right, it doesn't work
[09:54] <Ben64> Orion78: you're welcome
[09:54] <Orion78> But still I do not understand why grub considers hibernation as failed boot attempt.
[09:54] <Ben64> Orion78: one of the many mysteries of the computer boot process
[09:54] <jrib> masood: there seem to be some ldap* commands?  I am sure ldap documentation would cover this
[09:55] <__1> because clearly you're a faggot
[09:55] <nnyk_> Ben64: so i can safely remove the generic-pae kernel image i have installed?
[09:55] <Orion78> Ben64: It works!
[09:55] <Orion78> Ben64: Thanks!
[09:55] <Orion78> But still I do not understand why grub considers hibernation as failed boot attempt.
[09:55] <__1> no u
[09:56] <masood> jrib: thanks, the document wasn't so helpful, however I take a look again
[09:56] <Ben64> nnyk_: as long as you have a replacement kernel, yes. i think the newer 12.04 isos come with linux-generic-lts-raring or quantal or something
[09:57] <cheesecakes> is the default setting to hold back linux-headers in ubuntu 13.04?
[09:58] <blazemore> cheesecakes: yes
[09:58] <Ben64> cheesecakes: i don't think any ubuntu release came with the headers
[09:58] <cheesecakes> ok
[09:58] <jrib> masood: if no one here is familiar with ldap at the moment, try #ldap or #openldap
[09:59] <cheesecakes> the following are held back: linux-generic linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic linux-headers-generic-pae linux-image-generic linux-image-generic-pae?
[09:59] <cheesecakes> in my system
[09:59] <Ben64> DJones: check out the flood of spammers
[09:59] <Ben64> jrib maybe too
[09:59] <DJones> Ben64: They're already gone
[09:59] <cheesecakes> i'm just wondering if i screwed something up or this is the default behaviour
[09:59] <Ben64> no, theres more, look up 6 lines or so
[10:00] <Ben64> same IP as a previous spammer
[10:00] <nnyk_> Ben64: yeah, i have a 3.5 generic kernel image
[10:00] <Ben64> nnyk_: well make sure you have the meta package so you can get updates
[10:00] <A1Recon> http://imgur.com/vfvn7xY
[10:00] <nnyk_> as well as the generic-pae kernel image
[10:00] <A1Recon> oops wrong channel. Sorry Everyone
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: if you run:   apt-cache policy linux-generic-pae; lsb_release -a     what is output? please use a pastebin to host the text. Thanks
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-generic-pae
[10:01] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: the problem is 12.04 gets all the newer kernels
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: as an LTS, I doubt it
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: the unstable release wil lget the newer kernels. Saucy uses 3.10
[10:02] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: feast your eyes on these memory pops
[10:02] <Ben64> !info linux-generic-lts-raring precise
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Linux-Kernel-3-8-Reaches-End-of-Life-EOL-352713.shtml
[10:03] <ShelbyC> uh
[10:03] <ShelbyC> hi...
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> hi ShelbyC
[10:03] <ShelbyC> shed
[10:03] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: ok, its still in 12.04 though
[10:03] <ShelbyC> my windows 8 crashed *
[10:04] <ShelbyC> so my brother put ubuntu on here
[10:04] <ru> lol
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: oh absolutely, but its hardly new ;)
[10:04] <Ben64> when saucy drops, that kernel will be in 12.04 too
[10:04] <nnyk_> Ben64: but the dual updates of both the 3.2.0generic-pae (38mb) and the 3.5generic (40mb) is a real  pain
[10:04] <Ben64> nnyk_: yeah, then drop all the 3.2 ones
[10:04] <ShelbyC> so im  a total nooblet
[10:04] <ShelbyC> and
[10:04] <ShelbyC> idk how to open um
[10:04] <Ben64> !enter | ShelbyC
[10:04] <ShelbyC> irc.dal.net?
[10:04] <FloodBot1> ShelbyC: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:05] <blazemore> !details | ShelbyC
[10:05] <ShelbyC> i just now got ubuntu through windows 8 crash hard drive failure
[10:06] <ShelbyC> its 13.04amd or so
[10:06] <blazemore> ShelbyC: If your hard drive failed, it will eventually fail on Ubuntu as well. You should replace the failing hardware while you can still move your data
[10:07] <nnyk_> Ben64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE#Ubuntu_10.04_LTS_.28Lucid_Lynx.29_to_Ubuntu_12.04_LTS_.28Precise.29 says its not enabled by default in 12.04 LTS
[10:07] <nnyk_> Ben64: so my question is, if i remove the 3.2generic-pae, i no longer have pae enabled right?
[10:08] <Ben64_> nope
[10:08] <nnyk_> Ben64_: i cant seem to find any 3.5-generic-pae (don't know if there is)
[10:08] <nnyk_> shucks!!
[10:08] <Ben64> nnyk_: thats not me, just so you know
[10:09] <Ben64_> yes it is, just so you know
[10:09] <Ben64_> Ben64 is a poser
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: still waiting for that pastebin
[10:09] <cheesecakes> ActionParsnip: watermelt.com/lsb.txt
[10:10] <cheesecakes> ActionParsnip: i was a bit busy, sorry
[10:10] <nnyk_> Ben64: is there a way to install 3.5-generic-pae then?
[10:11] <nnyk_> Ben64: cos i cant seem to find that veersion, just the 3.2
[10:11] <ShelbyC> how do i change what server i'm connecting to?
[10:11] <Ben64> nnyk_: ok, i was off by one release for when they stopped offering non-pae. 12.10+ is pae only, so any kernel from quantal or raring in the repos should be pae
[10:11] <blazemore> ShelbyC: It depends what IRC client you are using
[10:12] <ShelbyC> xchat
[10:12] <blazemore> ShelbyC: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto
[10:13] <nnyk_> Ben64: so can i install a kernel from quantal or raring. im on precise pangolin
[10:14] <Ben64> nnyk_: yep, with the package
[10:14] <Ben64> (paste fail) with the package linux-generic-lts-raring
[10:16] <nathanbz> how would you use RC init scripts to mount a drive instead of fstab ?
[10:16] <cheesecakes> ActionParsnip: that was the pastebin you asked for
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: we need you to paste the URL of the pastebin in here
[10:16] <blazemore> nathanbz: Just put a mount command in the script. But why would you?
[10:17] <cheesecakes> umm i just did
[10:17] <cheesecakes> anyways watermelt.com/lsb.txt
[10:17] <nathanbz> blazemore ec2 instances will fail to load if they can't mount so you can't ssh in
[10:17] <nathanbz> but using a init script i could ssh in
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: sorry, missed it. Got it now
[10:19] <Ernust_Douglass> Hello everyone, Ernust_Douglasshere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: are there any bugs reported?
[10:20] <cheesecakes> ActionParsnip: yes
[10:20] <cheesecakes> there is some big system problem reported everytime i try to use unity
[10:20] <cheesecakes> but i just sweep it uner the rug
[10:21] <nnyk_> Ben64: ok, thanks.
[10:21] <Left_Turn> hey i installed ubuntu.. and on start up when i select ubuntu it asks me to log in and leaves me is a dos terminal.. i dont have a clue what to do.
[10:21] <Left_Turn> in*
[10:21] <cheesecakes> apport_gtk crashes or something
[10:21] <gordonjcp> Left_Turn: won't be DOS...
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: i meant about the packages held back
[10:21] <cheesecakes> ActionParsnip: nope
[10:21] <gordonjcp> Left_Turn: did you install Ubuntu Server, perhaps?
[10:21] <cheesecakes> i was just curious
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: I suggest you report one
[10:21] <Left_Turn> i installed it via wubi
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> Left_Turn: if you log in then run:   startx    do you get a desktop?
[10:21] <cheesecakes> ActionParsnip: i havent reported a bug ever
[10:22] <cheesecakes> so a bit uneasy on that
[10:22] <Left_Turn> i dont know.. ive been at the terminal the only thing i tried was cd documents
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: run:   ubuntu-bug linux-image-pae   or whatever package is having the issue
[10:22] <Left_Turn> i dont see start
[10:22] <gordonjcp> cheesecakes: reporting bugs is how we fix stuff ;-)
[10:22] <cheesecakes> gordonjcp: i know
[10:22] <Left_Turn> all i have is a terminal screen
[10:22] <Left_Turn> no graphics
[10:22] <cheesecakes> but i just fear the backlash of under reporting
[10:22] <blazemore> Left_Turn: If you try running "startx" what happens?
[10:22] <Left_Turn> do i type startx in the terminal?
[10:23] <blazemore> Left_Turn: yes after logging in
[10:23] <Left_Turn> oh ok... let me try that.. ill brb thanks
[10:23] <cheesecakes> ActionParsnip: there is no issue , except me wondering why are these packages held back while updating
[10:28] <uzer> How to setup xorg.conf to have one custom EDID for each monitor. My conf, :http://paste.ubuntu.com/5939284/, as it currently stands only recognizes one EDID for one monitor.
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: they get held back because one or more dependancies are not satisfyable so they are held back until they are, then the updates come down.
[10:34] <tornado> ciao
[10:34] <tornado> !list
[10:34]  * Dr_willis wonders whatrs up with all the listers..
[10:35] <babinlonston> Hi Want to configure fail2ban and its already installed now i need to add some rules  help me to protect ssh from brute force attack and i want to protect from D DOS attack too how can i set the filter for it
[10:36] <Dr_willis> babinlonston,  i basically just use the default settings for fail2ban.
[10:36] <somsip> babinlonston: ssh is in as standard for F2B but it may not protect against DDOS
[10:36] <babinlonston> Dr_willis: oh its works fine ?
[10:37] <babinlonston> ok
[10:37] <Dr_willis> babinlonston,  works fine for me.
[10:37] <babinlonston> k
[10:37] <Dr_willis> i agree with somsip  - its job is not to prevent ddos attacks. just ban people based on ip - who hammer your ssh server
[10:38] <Dr_willis> check out the 'logwatch' program also to have a nice human readable log of its actions
[10:39] <blazemore> How did it go Left_Turn ?
[10:39] <Left_Turn> hey guys i tried startx ... and all it did was check 2 things and leave my PC in a non responsive state
[10:39] <Left_Turn> check appArmor profiles ...
[10:39] <blazemore> Left_Turn: Did you say you installed via Wubi?
[10:39] <Dr_willis> Hmm. i dont recall ever seeing 'startx' mention apparmor
[10:40] <blazemore> Left_Turn: Did you say you installed via Wubi?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> Left_Turn: do you have web access?
[10:41] <Turn_Left> sorry
[10:41] <Turn_Left> blazemore i lost connection
[10:41] <Turn_Left> i tried startx ... and all it did was check 2 things and leave my PC in a non responsive state
[10:41] <Turn_Left>  check appArmor profiles ...
[10:41] <blazemore> Left_Turn: Did you say you installed via Wubi?
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> Turn_Left: do you have web access in the system?
[10:41] <Turn_Left> yes
[10:41] <Turn_Left> webaccess i dont think
[10:41] <k1l> Turn_Left: dont use startx. start the lightdm
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Turn_Left: ping -c 4 8.8.8.8       do you get replies?
[10:42] <Turn_Left> it just takes me to one big terminal and i cant do anything else
[10:42] <Turn_Left> hey im a big noob i dont know how to do that
[10:42] <Turn_Left> i havent used linux before
[10:42] <Turn_Left> k1l how can i start lightdm
[10:42] <blazemore> ActionParsnip: I'm trying to establish if he installed the Server edition by mistake, or if he installed via Wubi, but he's not answering my questions; perhaps you could ask him as he is having issues seeing my messages
[10:42] <k1l> Turn_Left: sudo lightdm start
[10:43] <k1l> or restart
[10:43] <Turn_Left> i used wubi BlackDex
[10:43] <Turn_Left> blazemore
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> Turn_Left: run the command and read the output
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: is wubi on the server ISO?
[10:43] <blazemore> no
[10:43] <Turn_Left> should i go and try:  sudo lightdm start.. and come back with results?
[10:44] <blazemore> It looks like yet another wubi-doesn't-work-properly situation to be quite honest
[10:44] <Dr_willis> lightdm should start automatically on a normal install
[10:44] <Turn_Left> oh
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> Turn_Left: do you get ping replies when you run the command I gave?
[10:44] <Dr_willis> a normal 'desktop' install that is. ;)
[10:44] <Turn_Left> ActionParsnip i dont know how to run those commands
[10:44] <Turn_Left> im on windows
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Turn_Left: its typing, you can clearly do that
[10:45] <Dr_willis> open terminal, or login at console. type in command..
[10:45] <Turn_Left> do i need to do that on the
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Turn_Left: use the keyboard and fingers and type, its no different in Linux than Windows
[10:45] <Turn_Left> ohh sry
[10:45] <Turn_Left> that means i have to log off?
[10:45] <Turn_Left> u made it sound like i could do it from windows
[10:45] <Dr_willis> unless you can figure out some way to run linux and windows both at the same time. ;)
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> Turn_Left: yes, reboot to ubuntu, if you get repies then run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:46] <Turn_Left> ok 1 sec
[10:46] <blazemore> Turn_Left: Do you have another devicd you can IRC on?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> Turn_Left: same fingers+keyboard method
[10:46] <Dr_willis> Turn_Left,  you can get to IRC from the consoles - if you have networking working.
[10:46] <Turn_Left> ok 1sec
[10:48] <cheesecakes> ActionParsnip: thanks! helped a ton
[10:55] <santhosh> hai how to install .netframeworks in ubuntu 12.04
[10:56] <mathnode> santhosh, as in, Microsoft .NET?
[10:56] <santhosh> iam installing wine the wine is support for only for up to .netframework 2.0 but how to install .netframework 3
 yes
[10:57] <santhosh> is there antyspecial frameworks for linux
[10:57] <mathnode> santhosh, use wine?
[10:58] <santhosh> yes .it is only possiblefor 2.0 i want 3.0 is there any way
[10:58] <mathnode> santhosh, .NET is an MS product for MS Windows. So either use wine to install dotnet, or use a cross-platform CLR like Mono.
[10:59] <santhosh> mono is possible for wine
[10:59] <santhosh> and .netframeworks
[11:00] <mathnode> santhosh, I suggest you go and research what the Mono Framework is.
[11:00] <santhosh> ok fine
[11:00] <mathnode> but dotnet can be installed using wine.
[11:01] <HisaoNakai> नमस्कार भाईंसाहब :)
[11:01] <HisaoNakai> santhosh - नमस्कार भाईंसाहब :)
[11:02] <santhosh> pls use english i don't know hindi
[11:02] <HisaoNakai> santhosh - Oh :)
[11:02] <santhosh> yes tell me <HisaoNakai>
[11:03] <cheesecakes> lol
[11:03] <HisaoNakai> santhosh - Nah, just noticed the rather Indian sounding name, so...do join us in #ubuntu-in :)
[11:03] <santhosh> yes iam hyderabad
[11:04] <santhosh> i know so many members want to expose there doubts i want learn and slove those issuses
[11:04] <Left_Turn> i did the ping commands it went fine.. but what do i do after that
[11:06] <blazemore> Left_Turn: I'd recommend uninstalling your Wubi installation, and doing a proper one by burning a DVD and booting from it
[11:07] <Left_Turn> ok thnx blazemore
[11:07] <MaxFrames> hello
[11:07] <MaxFrames> how do I check if the root user is disabled (as it should be) in ubuntu?
[11:07] <blazemore> MaxFrames: type "su"
[11:07] <blazemore> MaxFrames: See if you can switch user to it
[11:08] <MaxFrames> it asks for a password
[11:08] <blazemore> MaxFrames: Did you ever change the password for root?
[11:08] <santhosh> just enter your normal user password
[11:08] <MaxFrames> I have inherited this system (virtual machine)
[11:08] <jrib> MaxFrames: sudo grep root /etc/shadow.  Check if password hash field begins with a !
[11:08] <MaxFrames> so I don't know what has been done with it
[11:08] <santhosh> means login user password
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> santhosh: if you just run 'su' you will need root's password, the user password wil not wok here
[11:09] <anon5> hello :)
[11:09] <santhosh> just type sudo su -
[11:09] <santhosh> then enter your normal login password
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> santhosh: if you run:  'sudo su'  then it wil be the user's password, but 'sudo su' is not great and 'sudo -i' should be used
[11:09] <kubanc> i', guessing that screensaver or power saver or something like that disables my HDMI output when monitor goes to sleep. Sounds strange, i know, but this is the only connection  i can get why my HDM suddenly stops working, and then it start to work. Any idea how to look which process is doing this?
[11:10] <jrib> MaxFrames: I just learned that alternatively, you can run: « sudo passwd -S root » and check that the second field is "L"
[11:10] <anon5> So im i the only ones with windows here
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> anon5: I have no need for it personally
[11:10] <blazemore> Do you have an Ubuntu support question anon5 ?
[11:10] <anon5> no? :)
[11:10] <anon5> Just looking around for a place to chat:)
[11:10] <blazemore> !ot | anon5
[11:11] <anon5> ok
[11:11] <MaxFrames> so, the second field is "L" and the first command does return a value with a leading "!"
[11:11] <MaxFrames> so root is disabled, right?
[11:12] <jrib> MaxFrames: the first command should have returned something with a lot of ":".  In between the second set of colons, you should see something that starts with a !...
[11:12] <santhosh> itis a password filed
[11:12] <jrib> MaxFrames: oh, I misread what you said.  Yes, root is locked
[11:13] <MaxFrames> output of first command: root:!:15919:0:99999:7::::
[11:13] <jrib> MaxFrames: that's right
[11:13] <santhosh> it is not possible for disableing root password
[11:13] <Oxymoron> Hi, I need help with lvm2 pv partition. I was trying to follow guides how to resize a lvm partition, but it only partly worked. I reduced the size of the logical lvm I think, but I am not able to do pvresize as it says the /dev/sda5 is busy, even that NOTHING uses it when I am just booted from Live CD. How to fix? :S I really tried everything to disable lvm and unmount everything.
[11:13] <MaxFrames> output of second command: root L 08/02/2013 0 99999 7 -1
[11:13] <MaxFrames> so I'm fine?
[11:13] <jrib> MaxFrames: root is locked, I don't know if you're fine ;)
[11:14] <MaxFrames> I want it to be locked (i.e. not usable)
[11:14] <jrib> MaxFrames: you should check that there are no ssh keys in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys as well
[11:14] <santhosh> you can't decrase the pv space <Oxymoron>
[11:14] <Oxymoron> The real issue I have is that I want to reduce the size of the lvm partition so I can copy the /home data from it andinstall new ubuntu
[11:15] <MaxFrames> mm
[11:15] <Oxymoron> santhosh: why not? It says I have 50 GB free space.
[11:15] <Oxymoron> santhosh: I reduced the lv space?
[11:15] <MaxFrames> "/root/.ssh/authorized_keys: permission denied"
[11:15] <jrib> MaxFrames: use sudo
[11:15] <santhosh> you can add more pv to vg but just delete pv and then cretae new one
[11:16] <santhosh> sudo ssh-kengen <MaxFrames>
[11:16] <jrib> MaxFrames: don't do what santhosh has just suggested
[11:16] <Oxymoron> santhosh: Yes I would, but the problem is that I need to copy the data from it first. I want ALL settings, apps and /home from the lvm partition. There is no space left on hdd.
[11:16] <MaxFrames> sudo ls /root => I see no dir called .ssh
[11:16] <jrib> (that will *create* an ssh key, which you don't need)
[11:17] <santhosh> ok
[11:17] <jrib> MaxFrames: you would need to ls -a to see files that start with '.'
[11:17] <jelles> hello, am i connected?
[11:17] <Oxymoron> santhosh: Regarding to some results on Google it should be possible to reduce the size of the lvm, which I have partly. However I also need to reduce the size of psysical volume to make room so I can create a new partition.
[11:17] <jrib> jelles: yes
[11:17] <MaxFrames> ok, I still don't see any ".ssh" directory
[11:18] <blazemore> MaxFrames: sudo cat /root/.ssh/authorized_keys
[11:18] <jrib> MaxFrames: ok, that's what you want.  You can move on to other tasks now
[11:18] <blazemore> MaxFrames: if the file doesn't exist that's a good thing
[11:18] <Merle_Tendai> Hello everyone, Merle_Tendaihere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[11:18] <MaxFrames> "no file or directory"
[11:18] <santhosh> yes it is poosible for reduce the lv size to use vg's
[11:19] <Oxymoron> santhosh: However I would like to copy all the installed programs, apt list sources, settings and /home to a external hdd, then copy over to a new partition. The problem is the ubuntu I have now is 32 bit and I want to install 64 bit instead. Is 32 bits programs compatible with 64 bit?
[11:19] <jelles> cool! (I feel like in the matrix), can someone help me with my ubuntu-problem? concerning writing to ect/fstab for automatical mount
[11:19] <MaxFrames> what happened is that this system had a single user, and I had no password, so I needed to reset it
[11:19] <MaxFrames> so I tried this solution http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[11:19] <blazemore> !ask | jelles
[11:19] <santhosh> just generate a key in sorce machiine and send to destination machine usinf scp in both system open the ssh port  <MaxFrames>
[11:19] <MaxFrames> I couldn't make it work out because I was asked for a root password
[11:19] <jrib> MaxFrames: go on
[11:20] <Oxymoron> santhosh: And how to do you disable/completly disable the pv from lvie cd so you can access it from gparted or terminal?
[11:20] <MaxFrames> so I followed this procedure and it worked http://www.faqforge.com/linux/reset-root-password-ubuntu-linux-without-cd/
[11:20] <MaxFrames> after that, I went back to the first procedure and I was able to reset the user's password
[11:20] <jrib> MaxFrames: that's correct
[11:20] <santhosh> just unmount the lv and remove lv and vg then you can remove pv
[11:20] <MaxFrames> so I was wondering if the root user was now enabled or not
[11:21] <MaxFrames> looks like not, which is what I want
[11:21] <Oxymoron> santhosh: Wouldnt that destroy all data on the lv?
[11:21] <santhosh> just login single user mode then u can change root password then automatically change  user password
[11:21] <ecyourself> join #ubuntu-cn
[11:21] <jelles> i want to automatically mount my freenas sever at startup, i have mounted it with smb4k using cifs (i guess?) but i get an erroir message about something missing in /etc/fstab
[11:22] <foobArrrr> If I don't have a network connection, e.g. because the router is powered down, ubuntu waits about two minutes at boot saying "Waiting for network configuration" and "Waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration". 1) why does it do that? 2) how do I prevent that? (Ubuntu 12.04)
[11:22] <blazemore> jelles: What exact command did you run to get it to mount?
[11:22] <santhosh> just take a backup means  create another lv with different hard disk just take a backup
[11:22] <Oxymoron> santhosh: I have the Ubuntu and /home on the lv :( The Ubuntu setup tricked me to install lvm and said it was good. Then it created separate boot parittion, one extended partition and vg, lv and pv inside it. That structure sucks ass and make my computer slow as hell.
[11:22] <jelles> rightclick-mount
[11:23] <jelles> i set the preferences to superuser
[11:23] <Tzion_Reg> Hello everyone, Tzion_Reghere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[11:23] <Fernando0> hello, i need to install sqliteman but my repositories cant find it im trying to install it compile it from the source code but there are a lot of dependences that must be install... where i can get a big source.list file or its possible if some of u send me a source.list ?
[11:23] <blazemore> jelles: Can you please post the output of running the "mount" command on http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste the resulting URL in here?
[11:23] <Oxymoron> santhosh: From the backup, is it possible to fetch particular settings and software I have installed there? Some of the software was really hard to install, and I would like not todo it again.
[11:23] <blazemore> !info sqliteman
[11:23] <ubuntu-syncd> Hello
[11:24] <blazemore> Fernando0: What happens when you do "sudo apt-get install sqliteman" ?
[11:24] <blazemore> Fernando0: And what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[11:24] <santhosh> software files are there but installation and agin
[11:24] <ubuntu-syncd> I keep getting a WARNING, whenever I try to use modprobe "WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, it will be ignored in a future release. FATAL: Module k10temp.ko not found."
[11:25] <Fernando0> i get an error it cant be founded in the repository .. beh its founded but apt cant download it because the file doesnt exist anymore ... then i try to compile it using the source code but lack a lot of libs ... and also apt cant find this libs
[11:25] <Oxymoron> santhosh: How do you mean? I reallty wish there was some kind of Debian/APT backup creator, to take backup of particular apps with both settings and binaries/libraries.
[11:25] <blazemore> Fernando0: The terminal says " beh its founded but apt cant download it
[11:25] <blazemore> Fernando0: That doesn't look like an error message I recognise
[11:25] <Fernando0> error http://url ...
[11:25] <blazemore> !pastebin | Fernando0
[11:26] <ubuntu-syncd> Hello anyone know about my error?
[11:26] <santhosh> just rsync commad touse backup and sync
[11:26] <Fernando0> blazemore ... u can find it using apt ?
[11:27] <k1l> Fernando0: please show the errormessages in a pastebin from that download error. make sure to mak a sudo apt-get update before
[11:27] <blazemore> Fernando0: What Ubuntu version are you running, and what exact error message do you get when you try "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install sqliteman" ?
[11:27] <Oxymoron> santhosh: Yes but the process would take ages to clean out the partition table and then get all software, settings etc back there again.
[11:27] <ubuntu-syncd> Me?
[11:27] <Fernando0> yes i did it ... and its not working i need another repository
[11:27] <santhosh> ok  ok
[11:28] <Oxymoron> santhosh: You should remove the lvm option in the Ubuntu installation guide, really it should warn you from using lvm because its advanced and not necessary for enyone to have.
[11:28] <blazemore> Fernando0: What Ubuntu version are you running, and what exact error message do you get when you try "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install sqliteman" ?
[11:28] <ubuntu-syncd> My error simply is with modprobe: FATAL: Module k10temp.ko not found.
[11:29] <Fernando0> blazemore .. i told u its an error from the mirror  errro http://url the file cant be founded ... 11.04
[11:29] <MaxFrames> dumb question: with ext*, if a HDD is physically installed on a different machine (or a virtual HDD is accessed from a different machine) will it be possible to read all data regardless of permissions (like with NTFS)?
[11:29] <santhosh> just crate lvm and using ftp server or nfs server u can post all the people in you=r office
[11:29] <k1l> !eol | Fernando0
[11:29] <blazemore> Fernando0: The terminal says "errro http://url the file cant be founded" ?
[11:29] <k1l> Fernando0: you need to upgrade anyway, since 11.04 is out of support. so see the link the bot gave you
[11:30] <blazemore> Going on lunch now, back in an hour, good luck all
[11:30] <cheesecakes> adding b43 to /etc/modules is the preferred to make a modprobe permanent yes?
[11:30] <reisio> blazemore: what's for lunch?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image-generic quantal
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: its one way, yes
[11:30] <Fernando0> ok k1l  i will upgrade
[11:30] <cheesecakes> ok
[11:30] <cheesecakes> any other ways
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: echo "b43" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules > /de/null
[11:31] <cheesecakes> ActionParsnip: i come here to learn as well as troubleshoot
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: you can add the modprobe line in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line
[11:31] <cheesecakes> i hope its not a big deal if ask a question or two more
[11:31] <cheesecakes> ActionParsnip: thats a new one thanks
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: commands in that file run as root, just before the DM loads
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: change /de/null to /dev/null ;)
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: typo
[11:34] <\du> anybody know why if i use apt-get with -f -y --force-yes i still are getting prompts ?
[11:34] <\du> maybe it's an apt-get bug ?
[11:34] <cheesecakes> ActionParsnip: thanks
[11:34] <k1l> \du: is -y --force-yes not too much?
[11:35] <uvala> hello everyone, I'm looking for a FOSS place to store data, in order to send someone some larger files that cannot be sent via email. is there any FOSS service for this purpose?
[11:36] <Oxymoron> Does anyone know how to install latest gparted. The one in repos are 0.12 only, but I want 0.16.1. How to install it?
[11:36] <\du> kil, not with -f to solve unmet dependency problem i still have prompts that look like that: http://pastebin.com/2TUTVGvq
[11:36] <lun> uvala: https://www.wetransfer.com/
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> uvala: setup an SFTP server and port forward port 22 on your router, your files will be securely accessible from the world
[11:37] <reisio> the moistest ransfers ever
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> uvala: you get an sftp server when you install openssh-server
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Oxymoron: try finding a PPA
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Oxymoron: what is new in the .16.1 version?
[11:37] <Oxymoron> ActionParsnip: Yes I am trying, but I have not been able to find one yet.
[11:38] <uvala> ActionParsnip, I don't ave a router, as I'm not home
[11:38] <uvala> have*
[11:38] <Oxymoron> ActionParsnip: 0.16.1 solves a bug when resizing partition. Also there is HUGE difference from 0.12 to 0.16, like support for LVM partitions which I want.
[11:38] <uvala> lun, thank you, but this is not FOSS, as far as I see
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Oxymoron: I suggest you report a bug, it may update the main repos sooner
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> Oxymoron: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=gparted
[11:39] <Oxymoron> ActionParsnip: I think its already reported.
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> Oxymoron: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:40] <Oxymoron> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[11:40] <Oxymoron> ActionParsnip: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/getdeb_apps/precise/apps/getdeb/gparted
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Oxymoron: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:baltix/oem-archive ; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gparted
[11:41] <\du> where i should to report an apt-get bug ?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Oxymoron: gparted 16.1 is the only package for Raring in that PPA :)
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> \du: run:   ubuntu-bug apt-get
[11:42] <\du> http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/apt
[11:42] <\du> here i think
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> \du: the command I gave will start the process
[11:43] <Modesto_Nur> Hello everyone, Modesto_Nurhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[11:43] <\du> *** Error: Invalid problem report
[11:43] <reisio> Modesto_Nur: sup
[11:43] <Oxymoron> ActionParsnip: Hehe :D
[11:43] <flipper88_fl> Is it worth it to run a na ssh server ona laptop for backing upa smart phone of android bread?
[11:44] <reisio> flipper88_fl: compared to?
[11:45] <flipper88_fl> Compaerto a standard ftp/ftps server like filezilla-server?
[11:45] <reisio> ssh is actually easier to configure, so yeah kinda
[11:45] <Sendoushi> hey guys. how can I through the terminal find out the active username?
[11:45] <reisio> in that you shouldn't have to configure it at all
[11:45] <reisio> Sendoushi: 'whoami'
[11:45] <Sendoushi> ooh that is nice :D
[11:45] <reisio> so nice
[11:46] <Sendoushi> reisio: invalid username
[11:46] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Sendoushi: active username as in the name of the user you are typing as?
[11:47] <Sendoushi> yes ActionParsnip
[11:47] <Sendoushi> trying to get npm to work without sudo
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Sendoushi: yes, as reisio says. Works in windows and mac too
[11:47] <flipper88_fl> reisio: I wouldn'y mind licking down an ssh server so that just i could getinto it vis\a laocl network only, ya know no portforwarding and A higher portnumber i.e 2222
[11:48] <reisio> flipper88_fl: kind of a waste of time, but lots of people have time to kill
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Sendoushi: so that normal users can run it, or so that you dont need to type a password to run it (but still need to be in the sudo group)?
[11:48] <Oxymoron> ActionParsnip: Btw, what would be the fastest way to copy all software I have isntalled on ubuntu, except core libraries of ubuntu.
[11:48] <Sendoushi> how can i say everything inside a folder has 777? i guess that is the problem with the sudo
[11:48] <Sendoushi> ActionParsnip: normal users
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Sendoushi: if you set the sticky bit, it will run as root without issue
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Sendoushi: 777 is a really bad idea
[11:49] <Sendoushi> sticky bit?
[11:49] <Oxymoron> ActionParsnip: I want to copy the 32 bits software and then reinstall them on a 64 bit installation.
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Oxymoron: you can copy the debs from /var/cache/apt/archives and transfer them to another system and install them, if that is what you mean
[11:50] <flipper88_fl> reisio: Different question. How would you recommend i go about removing xfce which was the original desktop environment, that I installed when a installed from day one.
[11:50] <Sendoushi> ActionParsnip: how would you do this? i've chown the folder but still has problems with symlinks for example
[11:51] <reisio> flipper88_fl: and using what instead?
[11:51] <Oxymoron> ActionParsnip: Cool :) Yes almost everything there. I just need the Jetbrains IDE as well, but that is externally used I think. I just created launcher to it.
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Sendoushi: sorry suid bit
[11:51] <flipper88_fl> reisio: either gnome/gdm or fluxbox and gdm for a dm
[11:52] <reisio> flipper88_fl: gnome gnome, or unity?
[11:52] <flipper88_fl> reisio: gnome 3.0.3
[11:52] <Sendoushi> i don't know how to do this damn :s
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Sendoushi: sudo chmod u+s filename
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Sendoushi: not heard of the internet?
[11:53] <Sendoushi> searching and searching
[11:53] <reisio> flipper88_fl: you'd probably want this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu and then to install gnome-shell and swap lightdm for gdm and log out and back in properly
[11:53] <reisio> !notunity
[11:53] <Mot_Narcisse> Hello everyone, Mot_Narcissehere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[11:54] <reisio> Mot_Narcisse: sup
[11:54] <cfhowlett> Mot_Narcisse, then you're in the wrong place.
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> Sendoushi: you do realize nobody is born knowing this stuff......right?
[11:55] <Sendoushi> i do i do
[11:56] <Sendoushi> that's the reason i'm asking :P
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Sendoushi: but I gave you the solution, you should have then used the web to see what it means as well as how to do it....
[11:57] <yannick__> hey guys, in a shell script i get a "wget: command not found" how can i import the path of a user?
[11:57] <gordonjcp> yannick__: a more robust solution would be to give the full path to wget
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> yannick__: wget will be in all user $PATHs
[11:58] <yannick__> ActionParsnip: very strange that in my script it is not available.
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> yannick__: what is teh output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:58] <yannick__> ActionParsnip: i guess the problem is that the shell script is executed by php
[11:59] <Oxymoron> Is it any faster way to copy /home than doing sudo cp -R /home/user/* /folder ?
[12:00] <reisio> Oxymoron: probably not anything significantly faster, no
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Oxymoron: the speed is determined by drive speed, you can only go as fast as that
[12:00] <reisio> * isn't the best way to do it, though
[12:00] <reisio> it won't even catch everything
[12:00] <reisio> cp the entire dir itself, or use rsync
[12:01] <the_cyber_guy> i am trying to configure postfix on 12.04 but i am getting "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)" in the logs. mysql is running fine. db credentials and correct in postfix config files. people seems to have this problem due to postfix running in chroot. so i have changed mysql socket location to /var/spool/postfix/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock and chown it for mysql with 777 . changed the socket locati
[12:01] <the_cyber_guy> on in my.cnf and debian.cnf. but again i am getting postfix error in the logs pointing to old socket location. why is this ?
[12:01] <flipper89_fl> Unless you go expensive and grab a nand based sdd
[12:01] <anonymous_> ok
[12:01] <Oxymoron> ActionParsnip, reisio: Okay thanks, so not different if using like rsync?
[12:01] <reisio> Oxymoron: I doubt it would be significantly faster
[12:01] <reisio> it'd probably be superior, however
[12:03] <flipper89_fl> It most defenately would be alot more reliable
[12:03] <Oxymoron> reisio: Faster to use Gparted and clone the disk then?
[12:04] <reisio> Oxymoron: I doubt it, and even if it were that'd be a silly thing to do to copy a partition
[12:04] <flipper89_fl> !tell Oxymoron diskcloning
[12:04] <flipper89_fl> Hey zippy
[12:05] <flipper89_fl> brb I need to reboot in order to generate ssh hostkeys
[12:06] <Modesto_Nur1> Hello everyone, Modesto_Nurhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[12:06] <yannick__> ActionParsnip: ?
[12:06] <Oxymoron> reisio: Yes I agree ;) I will never ever use lvm again.
[12:06] <reisio> Oxymoron: why not?
[12:07] <reisio> Modesto_Nur1: hi
[12:07] <Oxymoron> reisio: Slow and hard to maintain if you want to reinstall the OS and really ugly parittion structure.
[12:09] <ss_haze> hello ubunties
[12:09] <ss_haze> I have dual monitor, and it works amazingly well
[12:09] <ss_haze> problem is, it changes resolution and settings everytime I change my acc
[12:09] <ss_haze> any ideas of startup script that would work if it logs in that I have changed acc
[12:10] <Supaplex> changed acc?
[12:10] <ss_haze> well multiple users on one system
[12:10] <Hugo_Kunala> Hello everyone, Hugo_Kunalahere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[12:11] <reisio> ss_haze: where's the config?
[12:11] <reisio> ss_haze: if it's in /home/, put it into skel
[12:11] <reisio> ss_haze: if your users are premade, just copy the config to each /home/ dir and chown it
[12:11] <reisio> if you can make it happen with xorg.conf/etc., just do that
[12:12] <Modesto_Nur2> Hello everyone, Modesto_Nurhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[12:12] <Minkovsky> Hello, I'm trying to run Fedora Rawhide in KVM on my Ubuntu 13.04. works okay(ish), but can't get the networking to work for more than two seconds. Using NAT+dnsmasq. Can anyone help?
[12:12] <blazemore> Minkovsky: That's a fedora issue not an Ubuntu support question
[12:12] <reisio> Minkovsky: try #kvm
[12:12] <ss_haze> reisio, good, what config
[12:13] <compdoc> #kvm doesnt really help with those things
[12:13] <Minkovsky> blazemore, the host is ubuntu
[12:13] <compdoc> ##networking might be better
[12:13] <reisio> ss_haze: if it's different for each user, it's probably something in a hidden dir in the user's home
[12:13] <reisio> ~/.config or the like
[12:14] <reisio> compdoc: must've been dreaming when they helped me with it
[12:14] <ss_haze> monitors.xml?
[12:14] <reisio> ss_haze: maybe, try it
[12:14] <hewhomust> hi, could anyone give me some help installing ubuntu on a uefi machine, I have already disabled secure boot
[12:15] <hewhomust> or link me to a good source
[12:15] <cfhowlett> !uefi|hewhomust,
[12:15] <hewhomust> thx
[12:15] <reisio> that factoid needs to be longer
[12:15] <cfhowlett> reisio, apparently not
[12:16] <pl2> Slight emergency.. Yesterday I installed a package with bugs(possibly because i'm still on v12): libgtk-3-dev. Now my session keeps crashing(i get logged out) every time I try to open particular applications. Is there a way to undo that install, or do you think upgrading to 13 will sort it out? I'm trying to backup my data before upgrade but it keeps crashing as well :(
[12:17] <freakyp_> In the new Edge indiegogo videos, one of them demonstrates Ubuntu running MS Office 2010 as a thin client. I can't seem to find any good documentation on setting that type of functionality up and I am toying with replacing some of our low-end use machines with Ubuntu boxes so long as I can still get access to a few windows programs. Is there a doc out there that explains this a little...
[12:17] <reisio> cfhowlett: right
[12:17] <freakyp_> ...better, both from the windows server side (terminal services I assume?) and from the ubuntu desktop side?
[12:17] <hewhomust> pl2, do you know what it was?
[12:18] <pl2> hewhomust, yes, libgtk-3-dev
[12:18] <hewhomust> sudo apt-get purge package then
[12:18] <hewhomust> do you need it for anything thoug?
[12:18] <reisio> freakyp_: got a link?
[12:18] <freakyp_> Yeah, 1 sec.
[12:18] <pl2> hewhomust, no, not at the moment
[12:19] <hewhomust> ok run that command then sudo apt-get autoclean
[12:19] <hewhomust> then try and reboot
[12:19] <pl2> I would need to restart the system as well yeah?
[12:19] <hewhomust> yeah i would think so
[12:19] <pl2> hewhomust, ok, i'll try that. thank you!!
[12:19] <hewhomust> np
[12:19] <ss_haze> reisio: I wouldn't had to even ask, it supposedly has configured itself on first start
[12:20] <reisio> freakyp_: also if you specify which programs, if they're ones people would recognize, you can probably get explicit information on how you might access them
[12:20]  * cfhowlett ... wonders why so many jackholes are entering the channel and announcing DDoS intent ...
[12:20] <reisio> ss_haze: hrmm?
[12:20] <reisio> cfhowlett: people keep making babies
[12:21] <freakyp_> reisio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtNhlVn3ETQ at about 3:06 she start talking about it. Mostly, Office 2010 (Word, Excel, Outlook) but also our box office ticketing program ProVenue Max. I'm trying to avoid adding more Citrix Clients out there and this looked pretty neat.
[12:22] <ss_haze> freakyp_ you can try wine anyway
[12:22]  * freakyp_ nods.
[12:24] <freakyp_> ss_haze last time I played with wine was yeaarrs ago and I was unimpressed to say the least, but that was long ago. I since haven't used *nix for desktop environments, I assume its gotten much better.
[12:24] <reisio> you notice how nobody at Canonical can memorize lines? :p
[12:24] <blazemore> Wine is good now, in that I can play League of Legends without needing Windows installed
[12:24] <reisio> freakyp_: #t= https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtNhlVn3ETQ#t=3m06s
[12:25] <hewhomust> lol nice
[12:25] <hewhomust> thats the only thing i use windows for
[12:25] <freakyp_> reisio: Thanks, I knew there was a way to add the time in, but it's early. :P
[12:25] <Modesto_Nur2> Hello everyone, Modesto_Nurhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[12:26] <Theri> this dinosaur wants Ubuntu Edge.
[12:26] <reisio> info ftw
[12:26] <reisio> apparently 6s doesn't work but 06s does :p
[12:26] <ledtc> Hello
[12:26] <cfhowlett> ledtc, greetings
[12:26] <reisio> also google maps chockes if you give it more than 26 (a-z) [well, actually 25] waypoints :p
[12:26] <freakyp_> o.o
[12:27] <reisio> freakyp_: they're either talking about web apps or remote connections
[12:27] <tdm4> anyone know if /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernels actually does anything? When I run apt-get autoremove, it never offers to remove old kernels.
[12:27] <ledtc> "12.04.2 LTS unable to find a medium containing a live file system" error for 2 days now, i have read every little forum online, i even tried to install on my other pc then swap the drives. This computer just wont run linux. This is my last resort i am loading up windows.... please help
[12:27] <reisio> say with seamlessrdp
[12:28] <reisio> freakyp_: I'd make sure LibreOffice doesn't do everything you want first :p
[12:28] <Increase> Hey guys
[12:28] <Increase> If you cd to desktop/folder, how do you get back to desktop from the same terminal?
[12:28] <cfhowlett> ledtc, reinstall ubuntu.
[12:28] <reisio> freakyp_: and if not, you could use VirtualBox (with seamless mode, even)
[12:28] <reisio> or kvm with seamlessrdp
[12:28] <reisio> or a number of other things
[12:28] <ledtc> im trying to install it
[12:28] <cfhowlett> !details|ledtc,
[12:28] <blazemore> ledtc: Did you check the disk image using the menu entry before trying to install?
[12:29] <blazemore> ledtc: It's possible you have a dodgy download or a dodgy burn
[12:29] <reisio> Increase: cd ~/Desktop/
[12:29] <freakyp_> reisio: Did LibreOffice add in an exchange mapi client?  These machines run 1 dedicated app, and we're throwing overkill machines at them next year. Primarily they sell tickets in the app and have outlook 2003 installed to send auto confirmations.
[12:29] <reisio> Increase: or cd - for a literal single step back
[12:29] <ledtc> ive tried 32bit 64bit  dvd and usb still no dirffrenc, im installing ubuntu on empty disks
[12:29] <blazemore> Increase: or "cd .." to go up a level
[12:30] <reisio> freakyp_: I don't know, what does office use exchange for?
[12:30] <Increase> thanks reisio and blazemore
[12:30] <freakyp_> We were going to play with using VMWare to push out apps similiar to the Citrix servers we use now, and try to ditch citrix all together, but this video intrigued me. ... Exchange is email, using MS's own mapi protocol.
[12:30] <ledtc> i dont have that option "acip" somthing that everone is talking about in my bios, i have tried changing the usb port, still no progress
[12:30] <ledtc> Busybox just says "12.04.2 LTS unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[12:30] <ss_haze> blazemore k3b for disk recording
[12:31] <reisio> freakyp_: I don't see them offering such a service for free, unless it's folded into the cost of getting a device in the first place
[12:31] <reisio> which is, of course, not free
[12:31]  * freakyp_ chuckles, "Roger that."
[12:31] <flipper89_fl> Is it possible to configure a local mta such as sendmail for use with thunderbird?
[12:31] <cfhowlett> ledtc, first check the md5sum of the ISO ...
[12:32] <flipper89_fl> If so please provide i decent link?
[12:32] <reisio> freakyp_: I mean Shuttleworth is worth $500,000,000 and edge is being attempted as a $32,000,000 (6% of his net worth) crowd sourced endeavour
[12:32] <ledtc> cfhowlett: i have fresh download and i burnt it with imgburn and i did the verifying thing aswell, it cant be corrupt
[12:32] <freakyp_> Alright, ISO finished downloading. Time to fire up a live session from thumb drive. Thanks for the info reisio and ss_haze. y'all take it easy.
[12:32] <reisio> & you
[12:33] <freakyp_> reisio I'm seriously considering getting in on the edge action to get a device. Thing looks sick!
[12:33]  * freakyp_ leaves now. hush.
[12:33] <reisio> freakyp_: well, if it's a real GNU/Linux on a phone, it might be worth it
[12:35] <ledtc> windows installer fires right up, growing a bit frustrated ive done everything <.<
[12:35] <cfhowlett> ledtc, windows installer ... you're installing wubi.  not adviseable.
[12:35] <tdm4> has anyone here ever got unattended-upgrades to *actually* remove older kernels? I tried the top answer from this link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/88936/how-to-remove-old-kernel-versions-automatically  and *NOTHING* happens.. kernels keep building up in /boot
[12:35] <ledtc> no im in bios
[12:36] <lolcat> tdm4: why does it matter if you have old kernels+
[12:36] <lolcat> ?
[12:36] <ledtc> disks are still clean nothing on them, cant boot the linux installer cuz of "12.04.2 LTS unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[12:37] <giuseppe_> buona sera
[12:37] <giuseppe_> !list
[12:37] <tdm4> lolcat: they take up a lot of room in /boot
[12:37] <ledtc> disks are still clean nothing on them, cant boot the linux installer cuz of "12.04.2 LTS unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[12:38] <cfhowlett> !patience|ledtc,
[12:39] <yousdo> hello
[12:39] <cfhowlett> yousdo, greetings
[12:40] <ledtc> Maybe i should just report it as a kernal bug with this motherboard ?
[12:41] <ledtc> Do you guys belive there any point in trying to install server instead ?
[12:41] <reisio> ledtc: did you say what you were imaging with?
[12:42] <flipper89_fl> ledtc: Not really unbless you have intent of running a server environemnt
[12:42] <ledtc> @reisio used image burn with fresh download on a dvd
[12:42] <reisio> ledtc: did you try it at 4x?
[12:42] <tdm4> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/923876 <- doesn't actually clean up in 12.04.2 LTS
[12:42] <ledtc> @reisio the disk is 4x so yes
[12:43] <ledtc> @reisio i have a usb as well (same bug) and it works fine in my other pc
[12:44] <flipper89_fl> I have configured my ssh server to callow connections on port 2222 for security sake how to i allow that port through netfilter via ufw command string?
[12:44] <tdm4> flipper89_fl: ufw allow proto tcp from any to <your IP> port 2222
[12:45] <flipper89_fl> thanks a bunch tdm4
[12:46] <reisio> ledtc: doesn't matter what it says on the disc, it matters what speed you tell imgburn to use
[12:47] <tdm4> flipper89_fl: that will allow anyone to access port 2222.. if you want to secure up SSH nicely, just use SSH keys only (disable passwords) :)
[12:47] <pl2> Back again.. and x still keeps crashing for every little thing. Luckily it lets me open irc.. Any ideas what else I could do? I already purged the package, autoremoved, autocleaned and restart and it still crashes
[12:48] <ledtc> reisio : then yes, 4x is the speed i used, and the USB stick that works, give the same error. So data is not corrupt.  But however i read something about "effi" or "leagacy" mode somthing could caus truble ?
[12:48] <reisio> ledtc: it could, but I dare say your media would still boot
[12:49] <reisio> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI if you want to read up on it
[12:49] <reisio> ledtc: there are things you can try running from Windows to install a system
[12:50] <ledtc> i dont have window on it yet, im gonna try installing server just for the heck of it, im out of idéa
[12:50] <ledtc>  anyway, how ever i do get this picture http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1347445119.png
[12:50] <ledtc> then it goes black, then i give me the error
[12:51] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|ledtc,   might help
[12:51] <somsip> !info php5
[12:52] <nep> join #winehq
[12:52] <bennypr0fane> hello, do you guys know if ubuntu 13.04 has the same file manager that comes with Gnome 3.6? I have installed Gnome 3.6 on my regular Ubuntu, but it seems like it uses the Gnome fm no even when I'm in a Unity session, but I'm not sure if it wasn't actually the same before. yeah i have a bad memory..
[12:52] <ledtc> Other people have been told to turn of ACPI
[12:52] <ledtc> but i cant find that option anywhere.
[12:53] <checoimg> How can I share a folder via FTP ?
[12:53] <pl2> Is it possible to upgrade ubuntu from the command line and without it opening windows?
[12:53] <bennypr0fane> *like it uses the Gnome fm noW even when...
[12:53] <reisio> pl2: yes
[12:53] <bennypr0fane> pl2 command line yes, without opening winodws i dunno
[12:53] <jhutchins> checoimg: Bad idea.
[12:53] <reisio> checoimg: why ftp? Share for what purpose?
[12:53] <checoimg> Sharing a big file
[12:54] <Fatih_Bernard> Hello everyone, Fatih_Bernardhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[12:54] <checoimg> Like sending a music project
[12:54] <pj__> hi
[12:54] <ledtc> "Press any key at that moment to access a menu. Select your language with the arrow keys, press enter and you will see this menu:" hmmm must try that @reisio
[12:54] <jhutchins> checoimg: FTP = p0ned system
[12:54] <checoimg> OK
[12:54] <checoimg> Wait what  ????
[12:54] <checoimg> p0ned  ?
[12:55] <pj__> hi im facing a problem with my laptop speaker and headphones
[12:55] <pl2> resisio, bennypr0fane, What if I logout of my xfce session and initiate the upgrade? any experience with that?
[12:55] <jhutchins> checoimg: Hacked, rooted, compromized.
[12:55] <checoimg> Ok
[12:55] <jhutchins> checoimg: Better methods are http or ssh/scp/sftp.
[12:55] <ledtc> mb
[12:56] <reisio> ledtc: ?
[12:56] <reisio> pl2: entirely doable
[12:56] <reisio> pl2: and I have no experience with it
[12:56] <checoimg> The how do I share a folder with those methods ?
[12:56] <checoimg> It should be easy for the one I'm sharing with.
[12:57] <reisio> checoimg: you want to send someone a file?
[12:57] <pl2> reisio, the problem i'm having is that since I have this crashing bug, the upgrade window is one of the windows that causes a crash so I can even upgrade from within xfce now..
[12:57] <checoimg> I'm trying to avoid uploading it.
[12:57] <ledtc> i turnt of acpi hopefully it will work now :s
[12:57] <pl2> i *can't even
[12:57] <checoimg> That's why I'm thinking about direct access
[12:57] <reisio> pl2: if you're certain it's this package, I'd definitely just undo its addition
[12:57] <nep> hi, has anyone achieved compiling wine on ubuntu 13.04 ?
[12:58] <reisio> checoimg: okay, by whom? From where?
[12:58] <reisio> nep: some people have, sure
[12:58] <Myrtti> nep: most cases there's no need tho
[12:58] <checoimg> from Dominican Republic and New York, Music studio and the artist.
[12:59] <nep> Myrtti : i know, but i need to try a patch
[12:59] <reisio> checoimg: from one desktop computer to another, or is one box a server with a domain?
[12:59] <checoimg> Desktop top another
[12:59] <checoimg> Desktop to another
[12:59] <ledtc> nope, still same error, acpi did not fix "unable to find... live file system"
[12:59] <pl2> reisio, I did undo it, but it installed a whole bunch of other packages with it, including some that I needed to update(about 100). So things got messy, i suppose.
[13:00] <reisio> pl2: uninstalled?
[13:00] <pl2> purged the package that caused it
[13:00] <reisio> pl2: what command did you use?
[13:00] <nep> lxc does not have a default souces.list
[13:00] <reisio> pl2: oh I see
[13:00] <pl2> apt-get purge package
[13:00] <reisio> pl2: there should be a log in /var/apt/ or someplace like that
[13:00] <reisio> ledtc: make/model computer?
[13:01] <reisio> checoimg: mmm, and how big might the file/s be?
[13:01] <ledtc> reisio : fujitsu
[13:02] <checoimg> 1 Gb+ but not 2
[13:02] <mabrey> hi
[13:02] <pl2> reisio, http://pastebin.com/qcmWPjL5
[13:03] <checoimg> but maybe I can upload one song at the time
[13:04] <reisio> ledtc: that's a make, how about a model?
[13:04] <reisio> mabrey: hi
[13:04] <mabrey> help, my wireless does not work in ubuntu 12.04
[13:04] <cfhowlett> !details|mabrey,
[13:04] <reisio> checoimg: probably be simplest to just use an IM client to transfer it
[13:05] <reisio> unless you can put it on something with a web server
[13:05] <reisio> like dropbox
[13:05] <ledtc> reisio : esprimo p1500
[13:05] <checoimg> reisio : What about winscp with ssh ?
[13:05] <reisio> that'd take longer, but be more reliable
[13:05] <reisio> checoimg: you could do that, but ssh gets complicated from desktops, over the internet
[13:05] <__frank> error: Interface 'gtk' not available: How can I install gtk on ubuntu ?
[13:05] <BluesKaj> dropbox works well here , no reliability probs
[13:06] <Pici> reisio: I have no problems with ssh from desktops
[13:06] <mabrey> i have a dual boot of ubuntu 12.04 and windows, my wireless works fine in windows 8 but doesnt work in ubuntu 12.04
[13:06] <varunendra> mabrey, please give us the pastebin link of the output of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net"
[13:06] <checoimg> Ah yes I forgot there COPY that has 20  GB for free, :)
[13:06] <checoimg> is on Windows and Linux
[13:07] <checoimg> I'll test wincsp just to see how it works.
[13:08] <reisio> ledtc: did you try the minimal cd?
[13:08] <ledtc> Looks like everyone with a espirmo p1500 cant use linux well fuck
[13:08] <ledtc> @reisio no ? whats that ?
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> !language |ledt
[13:08] <SidGBF> hi guys! Is there any valid repository for 11.04?
[13:08] <reisio> ledtc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> !eol | SidGBF
[13:08] <reisio> ledtc: also try different USB ports
[13:08] <cfhowlett> SidGBF, not active.  it's end of life
[13:08] <pl2> __frank, be careful. I installed the gtk dev package last night and now my x session crashes on just about everything. trying to fix it now..
[13:09] <reisio> ledtc: then you could try playing around in your BIOS prefs, boot order, disk emulation, etc.
[13:09] <__frank> pl2: thanks !
[13:10] <ledtc> @reisio there is slim to non options that are of intresst
[13:10] <reisio> ledtc: well try all those things I said
[13:10] <ledtc> @reisio gonna give the mini disk a try
[13:11] <checoimg> reisio : Thank you for your attention :)
[13:12] <SidGBF> cfhowlett: and to the dumb people who didn't updated yet, how to change to a new version?
[13:12] <cfhowlett> SidGBF, best practice would be to download the torrent.  12.04 is the LTS version so will have 5 years of support.  make a startup usb and install.
[13:13] <SidGBF> cfhowlett: and if it is a remote server?
[13:13] <cfhowlett> SidGBF, is this the server version of ubuntu?
[13:14] <cfhowlett> !PXE|SidGBF, never done it myself, but there's something called a PXE install method...
[13:14] <SidGBF> cfhowlett: yes
[13:14] <cfhowlett> SidGBF, #ubuntu-server would be a good place to ask ...
[13:14] <SidGBF> cfhowlett: kthxbye
[13:16] <ledtc> @reisio got stuck at langua selection, restarted and now i have blackscreen
[13:17] <ggabriel96> hey guys
[13:17] <ggabriel96> if i installed a ndivia driver with the additional drivers tool and i want to go revert it to the nouveau driver
[13:17] <ggabriel96> i can selected the nouveau option there and click revert? or apply changes? what's the difference?
[13:19] <ledtc> @reisio yeah its frozzen no sucess with the mini disk
[13:20] <khamer> Every once in a while something I do seems to get my computer 'stuck' so it can't do displayPort output anymore - I solved this previously by booting in older (than 3.8) kernels, but now my system doesn't have any of those. Any idea of what thing could be persisting a broken state, through reboots and through connecting different monitors?
[13:22] <ledtc> Nope as sone as i press install it frezzes or it cant find the file system
[13:22] <reisio> ledtc: if it were me, I'd try http://www.sysresccd.org/ just to rule out a problem with Ubuntu-based live media
[13:23] <ledtc> @reisio well the window disk boots right up into installer
[13:24] <ffio> how can i encrypt usb drives ?
[13:24] <reisio> ledtc: yeah but that only differentiates between Windows and GNU/Linux
[13:24] <reisio> ledtc: not Ubuntu and other GNU/Linux
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> ffio: use encryptfs
[13:24] <reisio> ecryptfs?
[13:24] <Laurenceb> hi, can anyone help me resize an eps graphic?
[13:24] <ledtc> @reisio true true, but i have runnd FreeNas on it before, thats linux right ?
[13:24] <reisio> Laurenceb: inkscape
[13:25] <reisio> ledtc: IIRC it is not
[13:25] <Laurenceb> reisio: how can i open it in inkscape?
[13:25] <reisio> ledtc: it's FreeBSD
[13:25] <Laurenceb> its trying to create several hundered pages at the moment
[13:25] <reisio> Laurenceb: just open it
[13:25] <Laurenceb> as the graphic is too big
[13:25] <reisio> Laurenceb: imagemagick's 'convert' or 'mogrify' might also do
[13:25] <fris> how can i remove the kept back packages, i did a dist-upgrade, and the dist-upgrade exited with error (thank goodness) it was gonna update to php 5.5 etc want to remove the kept back packages without removing my current packaged version
[13:25] <Laurenceb> convert converts to pixel graphics
[13:25] <Laurenceb> no good
[13:26] <ekix1> how i can customize uniti bar
[13:26] <reisio> convert foo.eps -resize WIDTH bar.png / or -resize xHEIGHT or -resize %##
[13:26] <ffio> ActionParsnip: simply partitioning to encryptfs will do ?
[13:26] <Laurenceb> yeah, pixellated
[13:26] <reisio> Laurenceb: then inkscape
[13:26] <reisio> ekix1: in what way
[13:26] <ekix1> i whant to move the bar to the bottom
[13:27] <Laurenceb> reisio: no luck
[13:27] <k1l> ekix1: its not meant to be put to the bottom.
[13:27] <Laurenceb> i only see page 1
[13:27] <Laurenceb> inkscape seems to have thrown the rest away
[13:28] <reisio> Laurenceb: several hundred pages in an EPS?
[13:28] <ekix1> how i can do it
[13:28] <xubuntu004> hello there i need some help whit wirless antenna\
[13:28] <ekix1> its not moving no where
[13:28] <Laurenceb> reisio: the size is very large
[13:28] <reisio> Laurenceb: is it one image?
[13:28] <Laurenceb> i was using dvipdfm and latex
[13:28] <Laurenceb> yes
[13:28] <Laurenceb> but dvipdfm is suffering from an overflow
[13:28] <Laurenceb> i need to reduce the size
[13:29] <xubuntu004> and my wireless antenna not working
[13:29] <reisio> Laurenceb: can you 'convert' from eps to svg?
[13:29] <xubuntu004> 06:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN [14e4:4311] (rev 01)
[13:29] <Laurenceb> reisio: not using convert
[13:29] <xubuntu004> i used this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx but its not help
[13:29] <Laurenceb> ill try a pdf
[13:29] <xubuntu004> or i doing something wrong
[13:29] <Laurenceb> convert to pdf and resize
[13:29] <Laurenceb> using latex
[13:30] <reisio> mmmm
[13:30] <reisio> gs can probably do eps to pdf as well
[13:30] <xubuntu004> SOMEONE CEN HELEP IN HERE  ?
[13:30] <k1l> xubuntu004: no need to use caps
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> xubuntu004: if you dont give us details...no
[13:31] <k1l> xubuntu004: you should give details what is not working and what errormessage appears
[13:31] <xubuntu004> Sorry , for caps but i was wrriting befo all detayls
[13:31] <xubuntu004> i installed xubuntu
[13:31] <k1l> xubuntu004: you just said" my car is broken, i need help"
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> xubuntu004: if you run:  sudo iwlist scan      do you see wireless networks?
[13:32] <peyam> xubuntu004, update your distro if it is fresh installed
[13:33] <xubuntu004> Usage: iwlist [interface] scanning [essid NNN] [last]               [interface] frequency                [interface] channel                [interface] bitrate                [interface] rate                [interface] encryption                [interface] keys                [interface] power                [interface] txpower                [interface] retry                [interface] ap                [interface] accesspoints    
[13:33] <xubuntu004> i updated allready
[13:33] <peyam> go to softwares and updates and choose the right drivers?
[13:35] <cfhowlett> !who
[13:36] <xubuntu004> peyam its saying no priepetary drivers in use
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> xubuntu004: run:  sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a     what is output please, use a pastebin to host the text
[13:36] <Kevin`> a recent update to ubuntu broke uefi booting, the ubuntu entry in nvram was removed and grub-install won't add it back
[13:36] <Kevin`> how can I fix this?
[13:37] <fris> how can i remove kept back packages, i did a dist-upgrade which exited with error (thank goodness) i want to remove without removing current installed versions
[13:38] <xubuntu004> ActionParsnip  bomzas@bomzas-HP-G5000-GH972EA-ABU:~$ sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a   *-network                       description: Network controller        product: BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN        vendor: Broadcom Corporation        physical id: 0        bus info: pci@0000:06:00.0        version: 01        width: 32 bits        clock: 33MHz        capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list        configuration: driver=
[13:38] <PhillipJFry> You guys have any suggestions on how to get a .ppf to open?
[13:38] <ffio> is their any frontend for aide ?
[13:39] <anna_> hi guys, does anyone know what the package name is for steam?
[13:39] <osubuntu> hi...?
[13:39] <Kevin`> I remember seeing an update to the effect of 'always use the secureboot shim if installed' that sounds like it could change things
[13:39] <xubuntu004> ActonParsnip i sued this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx but dindint help for me
[13:40] <Kevin`> but if I fix it manually without knowing the ubuntu specifics, the installer will probably just remove itself again
[13:40] <osubuntu> oh this is wrong chat room
[13:40] <osubuntu> bye
[13:40] <jkbbwr> Why am I getting gethostbyname2: Resolver internal error when I try to tracepath imap.google.com
[13:40] <jkbbwr> Its infurating
[13:40] <khamer> anna_: its not in the repos, you have to get it elsewhere
[13:41] <osubuntu>  
[13:41] <anna_> khamer, it's in the Software Centre, is that different to the repos?
[13:41] <khamer> really? I didn't know they had added it to the software centre, I didn't think it was in there
[13:41] <Laurenceb> ok fixed my problem
[13:41] <k1l> !steam | anna_
[13:41] <Laurenceb> manually edited the eps file
[13:42] <anna_> Yeah it's in the SC
[13:42] <anna_> OK actually it seems like some software that's in the SC isn't actually in the repos
[13:42] <osubuntu> Hello what is this?
[13:42] <anna_> i.e. proprietary software
[13:42] <anna_> but once you "buy" it of the SC (in steam's case that's for £0), you get a package which you can manipulate with apt-get
[13:43] <utfans05> osubuntu, it's a support channel for Ubuntu
[13:43] <anna_> according to this http://askubuntu.com/questions/166247/is-apt-get-install-method-the-same-as-ubuntu-software-centre-installation/166250#166250
[13:44] <osubuntu> utfans05, Thanks
[13:44] <SonikBoom> Ubuntu just randomly restarted, currently have it in dual screen setup. System rebooted to a black screen with mouse + blinking cursor. How can I debug the cause?
[13:44] <utfans05> osubuntu, your welcome.
[13:44] <osubuntu> utfans05, Okay..
[13:44] <utfans05> SonikBoom, check your logs in /var/log and see if you can see what happened.
[13:44] <Kevin`> nobody here uses uefi, I guess :/
[13:45] <osubuntu> wait... dpkg.log contains remove ubuntu-desktop..?
[13:45] <Kevin`> is there a way I can find trac entried for recent changes to ubuntu?
[13:46] <bezhermoso> Guys Im a bit confused with some file permissions.
[13:46] <bezhermoso> I have a set of files served through Apache2, and they are chowned by www-data
[13:46] <SonikBoom> utfans05 been looking around there, not much i'm seeing is standing out just yet. anything in particular to search on
[13:47] <utfans05> SonikBoom, there should be a crash log somewhere.
[13:47] <osubuntu> What happens if I do sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /
[13:47] <bezhermoso> However, even though I added my user to the www-data group, I still cannot modify the files without sudoing.
[13:47] <utfans05> osubuntu, stop trolling...
[13:47] <reisio> osubuntu: you get yelled at by an op, probably
[13:47] <k1l> osubuntu: stop that trolling.
[13:47] <utfans05> SonikBoom, try in /var/crash
[13:47] <bezhermoso> I already did chmod o+rwx on said files.
[13:47] <k1l> !danger
[13:47] <osubuntu> was it trolling? no stupid do that
[13:48] <Kevin`> is there anywhere I can get a list of recent changes to ubuntu?
[13:48] <osubuntu> sorry
[13:48] <philinux> Kevin`: have a browse in /var/log/apt
[13:48] <osubuntu> lol i already did and it asks for password and exited.
[13:48] <k1l> !guidelines > osubuntu better have a read
[13:48] <osubuntu> dont run my cmd
[13:49] <Kevin`> philinux: that lists things that happened, but I already know the package name (grub etc). how do I find what changes were made to it in the update?
[13:50] <philinux> Kevin`: in synaptic go to the package and then one of theoptions is view changelog
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Kevin`: changes in what way?
[13:51] <utfans05> SonikBoom, are you seeing anything in there?
[13:51] <Kevin`> ActionParsnip: the actual patch ideally, and any issues related to it. the update removed ubuntu's nvram entry on my system and grub-install no longer creates it
[13:51] <SonikBoom> utfans05, 5 mins prior to the reboot Skype crashed on me, which I was just about to investigate
[13:51] <SonikBoom> utfans05, not sure that the skype + apport gtk crash is linked to the reboot 5 mins later?
[13:51] <utfans05> SonikBoom, skype crashes all the time... but ive never seen it crash the whole os
[13:52] <utfans05> SonikBoom, was there anything at all in /var/crash?
[13:52] <arleas> hi, does anyone have the link to the ATI drivers wiki installation guide?
[13:52] <utfans05> !ati
[13:52] <philinux> Kevin`: have a look here http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/
[13:53] <SonikBoom> utfans05, most recent crash before the reboot was apport-gtk (which followed after skype)
[13:53] <SonikBoom> utfans05, and 30 mins prior compiz through a whoopsie
[13:53] <utfans05> SonikBoom, the apport-gtk may have done it but idk...
[13:53] <SonikBoom> utfans05, what about the syptom of a blinking cursor upon reboot and no desktop?
[13:54] <SonikBoom> utfans05, however when i detached the connected hdmi cable, this kicked the display back in and i was able to see the desktop
[13:54] <utfans05> SonikBoom, that it typically a sign that something in your grub is messed up. you may need to set it to nomodset
[13:55] <SonikBoom> utfans05, nomodeset* right?
[13:55] <osubuntu> I won't do that bad thing, but how can I install ogg, xvid and other plugins in GStreamer?
[13:55] <utfans05> i belieive so. you may want to double check, Ive never had to do it myself but i know it helps with nvidia cards. there is another one to set for ati.
[13:56] <osubuntu> apt-get install xvid says it cannot find it
[13:56] <osubuntu> i did apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[13:56] <osubuntu> (all in root)
[13:56] <utfans05> osubuntu, try using tab completion
[13:56] <arleas> the instructions on the ubuntu website are for 11.10 and 12.04 -I'm running 13.04
[13:56] <k1l> !codecs | osubuntu
[13:56] <osubuntu> Aha ubottu is a bot!
[13:57] <MrQuist> derp
[13:57] <Kevin`> philinux: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/145369440/grub2_1.99-21ubuntu3.9_1.99-21ubuntu3.10.diff.gz - this looks like it might be the thing, but i'm having trouble translating it into the end script to revert the change without recompiling
[13:57] <Aaruni> for mutlimedia issues, and codecs, won't ubuntu-restricted-extras just work?
[13:57] <utfans05> Aaruni, it may
[13:58] <osubuntu> k1l, thanks!
[13:58] <Aaruni> utfans05: you mean it might not ?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> osubuntu: the codecs package is exactly the same as it was in the earlier days
[13:58] <Teh> What mic have device name in /dev if PulseAudio enabled?
[13:58] <SuRfDaEmOn> Aaruni: leaving the option open that maybe there are obscure codecs?
[13:59] <utfans05> Aaruni, I ment it may work.
[13:59] <Aaruni> utfans05: if you say it may work, then there is a possibilty of it not working ?
[14:00] <osubuntu> Why is /usr/share/doc/gstreamer0.10-fluendo-plugins-mp3-partner/changelog.Debian.gz
[14:00] <osubuntu> file invalid?
[14:00] <Kevin`> philinux: forcing it no instead of yes seems to have no effect. is grub-install still the way to add ubuntu to the boot menu?
[14:00] <Teh> What mic have device name in /dev if PulseAudio enabled?
[14:00] <utfans05> Aaruni, I have always installed the restricted stuff at install. It would seem that even if you install it after doing a base install it should work.
[14:01] <utfans05> osubuntu, what are you trying to do to it?
[14:01] <Aaruni> utfans05: your replies are very vague, and not understood by me, I am afraid...
[14:02] <Kevin`> what's the package for this shim thing, anyway>?
[14:02] <utfans05> Aaruni, during install from usb you have the choice to install ubuntu-restricted-extras, i always choose to do it then. I do not see any difference in installing it when you do the os install and installing it after doing the os.
[14:02] <osubuntu> utfans05, every time I install gstreamer0.10-fluendo-plugins-mp3-partner, it could not be installed in dpkg because of that file
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> osubuntu: if you run:   file /usr/share/doc/gstreamer0.10-fluendo-plugins-mp3-partner/changelog.Debian.gz     is it a file?
[14:03] <utfans05> osubuntu, run this command before installing anything......        sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[14:04] <Aaruni> utfans05: ah.. ok
[14:04] <osubuntu> utfans05, I always do it and I removed that file and it works!
[14:04] <osubuntu> I already fixed it :P
[14:04] <LadyRainicorn> Is it normal for apt-get update to be really, really slow?
[14:05] <osubuntu> however I want to know why it exists
[14:05] <osubuntu> LadyRainicorn, if you have so much repositories
[14:05] <utfans05> LadyRainicorn, it all depends on how heavy the repos are getting hit at the time.
[14:05] <osubuntu> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> osubuntu: sweet :)
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> LadyRainicorn: I use apt-fast and it helps
[14:06] <osubuntu> apt-fast?! what is it?
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> LadyRainicorn: install axel before you install it (its not in the repos)
[14:06] <osubuntu> im gonna install that
[14:06] <LadyRainicorn> 21.3MB in 6:48s
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> osubuntu: apt-get + axel = apt-fast
[14:06] <utfans05> apt-fast grabs from multiple repos at the same time instead of one at a time.
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> osubuntu: does all the same apt-get things but uses axel for downloading
[14:07] <LadyRainicorn> OK I will try
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> LadyRainicorn: sudo apt-get install axel; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:apt-fast/stable; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install apt-fast       select to use axel for downloading, the other defaults are fine
[14:09] <osubuntu> uhh, new repo?
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> oscailt: its a PPA
[14:12] <LadyRainicorn> On a related note, whhy are there like 70 repos on a default install?
[14:12] <LadyRainicorn> That is kind of crazy.
[14:12] <osubuntu> can i have a local repo?
[14:12] <Anaxandridas> My ubuntu computer has become extremely slow in the last few days, and difficult to use. I'm assuming this was user error, as I've only had it one week and probably screwed something up. I'm trying to reinstall Ubuntu from the boot CD I have, but I can't seem to figure out how to boot from a CD, with linux. Google has not been my friend here.
[14:12] <max_>  guise
[14:12] <reisio> osubuntu: sure
[14:12] <ShuHikari> #intip
[14:12] <SuRfDaEmOn> LadyRainicorn: oh, I have ~56 lines including comments in mine
[14:12] <ledtc> reisio : im running system rescue disc now , ????
[14:13] <utfans05> Anaxandridas, change your bios to boot from the cd first.
[14:13] <reisio> ledtc: so it's just Ubuntu images
[14:13] <Anaxandridas> utfans05, that's what I've been unable to find how to do.
[14:13] <Kevin`> Anaxandridas: there's a key, specific to your computer/bios, that you have to press during boot to get a menu for what to boot from. this isnt os-specific
[14:13] <reisio> ledtc: maybe you could debootstrap from sysresccd or the like
[14:13] <ledtc> reisio : well its loading a bunch of stuff with green arrows
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> LadyRainicorn: grep -v ^# /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -v ^$ | wc -l    shows 24 here, where are you getting 70 from?
[14:13] <Anaxandridas> Kevin`, F2 only brings up a disc check menu. Not an option to boot from CD.
[14:14] <reisio> ledtc: ah, "running"
[14:14] <utfans05> Anaxandridas, what type of computer is it?
[14:14] <Anaxandridas> utfans05, HP POS.
[14:14] <ledtc> reisio : "modules for software raid"
[14:14] <Anaxandridas> Laptop.
[14:14] <Kevin`> Anaxandridas: what makes you think it's f2? that's normally the key for the setup application.. what do you mean disk check?
[14:14] <LadyRainicorn> I have 22 non-comment non-blank lines, but there are around 70 fetches with apt-get update
[14:14] <reisio> ledtc: don't need the play-by-play
[14:14] <Anaxandridas> Kevin`, because it SAID it was F2.
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> LadyRainicorn: what does the command output for you?
[14:15] <Kevin`> Anaxandridas: the manual for your computer?
[14:15] <utfans05> Anaxandridas, try pressing F12 during boot
[14:15] <LadyRainicorn> 22
[14:15] <ledtc> reisio so whats next ?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> LadyRainicorn: so not 70, like you say....
[14:15] <reisio> ledtc: so it's just Ubuntu images
[14:15] <reisio> ledtc: maybe you could debootstrap from sysresccd or the like
[14:15] <Kevin`> the most common keys i've seen for it ar f8, f10, f12
[14:15] <LadyRainicorn> 70 URLs are reported in apt-get update
[14:15] <ledtc> reisio : whats that ?
[14:15] <LadyRainicorn> It numbers them
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> LadyRainicorn: that command removes lines that start with a hash (comments) and blank lines from sources.list then counts the lines
[14:15] <reisio> ledtc: it's a distro agnostic way of installing a debian system
[14:16] <LadyRainicorn> I'm aware
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> LadyRainicorn: wasnt sure of your bashfu level :)
[14:16] <ledtc> reisio : i think sysrec disc just frozz
[14:17] <LadyRainicorn> But yeah, update seems to be usinf a lot more
[14:18] <ledtc> reisio yeah its frozzen alright
[14:20] <SuRfDaEmOn> LadyRainicorn, ActionParsnip, does each main/restricted/universe after the repo make another call during apt-get update?
[14:20] <SonikBoom> utfans05, found some segfaults 30 mins prior to the reboot. This was the same time compiz crashed.
[14:20] <xubuntu004> how to fix this wireless antenna problem  ???
[14:20] <xubuntu004> bomzas@bomzas-HP-G5000-GH972EA-ABU:~$ lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4 06:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN [14e4:4311] (rev 01) bomzas@bomzas-HP-G5000-GH972EA-ABU:~$ uname -r 3.8.0-27-generic bomzas@bomzas-HP-G5000-GH972EA-ABU:~$ dpkg --get-selections | grep headers linux-headers-3.8.0-19				install linux-headers-3.8.0-19-generic			install linux-headers-3.8.0-27				install linux-headers-3.8.0-27-gen
[14:20] <utfans05> SonikBoom, that was probably the cause.
[14:20] <SonikBoom> utfans05, possible for this to have a knock on effect for the reboot, or does it only explain compiz crash?
[14:21] <reisio> ledtc: mmm, okay you might try been grubed
[14:22] <ledtc> reisio i dont have windows
[14:22] <LadyRainicorn> Ah, yep
[14:22] <varunendra> xubuntu004, do you have a wired connection available on that system?
[14:22] <LadyRainicorn> Also multiverse
[14:22] <Kevin`> can anyone here confirm that efibootmgr is currently able to actually create boot entries?
[14:22] <Kevin`> i'm trying to use it manually, and it's doing nothing
[14:22] <xubuntu004> varunendra yes i now connected on wired connection
[14:23] <LadyRainicorn> 4*22==88
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> lduros: i guess if lines have 'universe multiverse' at the end then that is 2 sources, not one
[14:23] <LadyRainicorn> There is the source of my insanely large number of fetches
[14:23] <reisio> ledtc: what do you have?
[14:23] <varunendra> xubuntu004, try - "sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree" .... then.... "sudo modprobe -v b43"
[14:23] <SuRfDaEmOn> LadyRainicorn: yeah, I hadn't thought about that before.  Not sure what you can do if it's slow for you though.
[14:24] <ledtc> reisio : Nothing i said, the disc
[14:24] <ledtc> reisio are empty
[14:24] <reisio> ledtc: this was sysresccd on a usb stick?
[14:24] <ledtc> reisio no on dvd
[14:24] <petrovv_> desktop under 12.04, tried to switch it to wifi dongle, NetworkManager does not start on reboot - what to do?
[14:26] <ledtc> reisio : going for server verision instead then but i cant really do any VM ware in there can i ?
[14:26] <utfans05> ledtc,  you can do vm on a server no issues.
[14:27] <ledtc> utfans05 but theres no gui ?
[14:27] <utfans05> ledtc, put one on it
[14:27] <utfans05> ledtc, about 4 months ago i put enlightenment on it and it worked great!
[14:27] <xubuntu004> varunendra , bomzas@bomzas-HP-G5000-GH972EA-ABU:~$ sudo modprobe -v b43 [sudo] password for bomzas:  insmod /lib/modules/3.8.0-27-generic/kernel/drivers/ssb/ssb.ko
[14:28] <ledtc> utfans i have the "12.04.2 LTS unable to find a medium containing a live file system" error
[14:28] <varunendra> xubuntu004, so is the wireless up now?
[14:28] <ledtc> utfans and there no solution to it, no where
[14:28] <xubuntu004> varunendra , i heve to reboot pc or not need ?
[14:28] <utfans05> ledtc, try redownloading the iso and use dd to copy it over.
[14:28] <xubuntu004> cuz now its not on
[14:28] <reisio> ledtc: can you try a usb stick?
[14:28] <ledtc> reisio told ive used both.
[14:29] <gregor_> dose anyone know if useing a cale for downalding bitotrrent files is fater then useing a weirless conection ?
[14:29] <ledtc> utfans05 dd ?
[14:29] <varunendra> xubuntu004, shouldn't be needed if everything finished properly..
[14:29] <LadyRainicorn> If your wifi connection is bad
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> gregor_  ethernet cable is twice as fast as wireless
[14:29] <checoimg> I want to disable Alt+Right click menu function.
[14:29] <LadyRainicorn> Or you have a really fast link
[14:29] <ledtc> gregor_ dont forget about the package lost with wi-fi
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> gregor_  it does not change internet connection speed, however
[14:30] <gregor_> ah it just depedns i guess
[14:30] <xubuntu004> varunendra nop still no wireless
[14:30] <xubuntu004> i will try to restart now
[14:31] <varunendra> xubuntu004, what does lsmod | egrep 'wl|b43' show?
[14:31] <LadyRainicorn> Is there a rationale for having so many separate sources?
[14:31] <xubuntu004> varunendra , bomzas@bomzas-HP-G5000-GH972EA-ABU:~$ lsmod | egrep 'wl|b43' wl                   3027822  1  lib80211               14040  1 wl cfg80211              436177  1 wl
[14:32] <varunendra> xubuntu004, that's the problem then, you have to remove the wl driver first.. we can do it now.
[14:33] <SuRfDaEmOn> LadyRainicorn: licenses?
[14:33] <xubuntu004> varunendra , hot to remove it  ?
[14:33] <xubuntu004> how*
[14:33] <LadyRainicorn> Wouldn't like two be enough then?
[14:33] <gregor_> what downlaod speed should i set bit torrent up to im setting it up for the first time
[14:33] <john_doe_jr> what is fstab?
[14:33] <reisio> gregor_: depends on your service
[14:34] <reisio> gregor_: and what you might want left over while you're downloading, etc.
[14:34] <Kevin`> gregor_: slightly less than the maximum possible on your connection. limiting upload is more important to responsiveness though
[14:34] <varunendra> xubuntu004, please do - "sudo modprobe -rfv wl" .... then .... "sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source"
[14:34] <SuRfDaEmOn> LadyRainicorn: google found me this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[14:34] <ledtc> utfans05 reisio My keyboard stop working :s
[14:34] <reisio> ledtc: box has problems
[14:34] <gregor_> so id have about meduim downalos speed for the first time not to fast ?
[14:36] <LadyRainicorn> Not really a rationalr
[14:36] <Kevin`> gregor_: if it's configured correctly you should be able to easily max most connections after a minute or two, with something that's popular at least
[14:36] <reisio> yeah my upload is about a 40th of my total download speed
[14:36] <ledtc> reisio now i got black screen....
[14:36] <reisio> ledtc: uhuh
[14:36] <ledtc> reisio no wait it ...but the keyboard wont work
[14:37] <Prock81> i forgot my user name password, can i still chat here?
[14:37] <reisio> ledtc: this information is not useful to me
[14:37] <reisio> Prock81: apparently?
[14:37] <Kevin`> Prock81: apparently
[14:37] <xubuntu004> varunendra , FATAL: Module wl is in use.
[14:37] <utfans05> ledtc, what did you do to get the black screen?
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> LadyRainicorn  do you mean, why there's universe and multiverse etc? here's why https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[14:38] <ledtc> utfans05 it frezzes, sometimes before the language selection screen and somtime at it
[14:38] <Prock81> got a question, ill give a link to a fourm and have you scroll down to a certin point and , can u tell me if that will work for my grub, and how to apply it?...
[14:38] <utfans05> ledtc, is this from a usb or cd?
[14:39] <ledtc> utfans05 cd
[14:39] <ledtc> utfans05 just downloaded the server img
[14:39] <varunendra> xubuntu004, not necessary though, but a reboot will automatically get rid of it if the second command (apt-get purge) finished successfully.
[14:39] <utfans05> ledtc, the cd is really really slow. sometimes you need to just let it sit.
[14:39] <utfans05> ledtc, if possible use a usb stick to install from.
[14:39] <ledtc> utfans05 yeah i know, but 5min to be able to move aroud in a dropdown list of countrys ?
[14:40] <xubuntu004> varunendra , bomzas@bomzas-HP-G5000-GH972EA-ABU:~$ apt-get purge E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[14:40] <LadyRainicorn> I can see how you would logically separate things like tgis, but it seems to not be particularly efficient
[14:40] <utfans05> its running in a live enviroment from a cd... there are a ton of reads going on during that time.
[14:40] <ledtc> utfans05 wow wtf
[14:41] <Prock81> http://reboot.pro/topic/16793-run-win-xp-on-usb/ scroll down just a bit to where "anhhuyla" speaks, what they say about grub, could i apply that, but my image will be on the HDD
[14:41] <marianne> I'm looking to build a new desktop, but wanted to look at systems that come already installed with Ubuntu... does anyone know that website? I can't seem to find it
[14:41] <ledtc> utfans05 i turn everything i could find of in the f6 menu and now it did aint freez and loading time was super fast
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> LadyRainicorn  feel free to publish more efficient ways to manage software in a blog or so, any constructive contribution is welcome
[14:41] <LadyRainicorn> I am assuming the use of HTTP is a development time thing, so that isn't as annoying
[14:41] <xamox> So this is the first time I've ever got this error. I'm trying to spin up a 12.04.2 server on amazon ec2.  Once it starts, I'm ssh'd in and running apt-get update, but getting this error: W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> LadyRainicorn  try appnr.com
[14:41] <varunendra> xubuntu004, did you run the command with sudo ? (sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source)
[14:42] <LadyRainicorn> I'll be happy to design a system if someone else has the time to code it ;p
[14:42] <xamox> I've killed it and tried to create a few more, any ideas why this is happening?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> xamox: is that when you run:  sudo apt-get update
[14:42] <ledtc> reisio i dont know what but i turnd of a bunch of stuff in the f6 menu and now its working so far
[14:42] <Prock81> the reason i just dont keep it on the VM is cause i want to use paltalk and it checks for a virtual machine
[14:42] <reisio> ledtc: gj
[14:42] <Kevin`> Prock81: why would you bother with grub4dos if you are using ubuntu?
[14:42] <xamox> ActionParsnip, Yeah.
[14:42] <ledtc> reisio is there any problem now i might encounter in the future by doing this ?
[14:42] <xubuntu004> varunendra , bomzas@bomzas-HP-G5000-GH972EA-ABU:~$ sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> xamox: can you pastebin the full output please
[14:43] <xamox> ActionParsnip, it is crying about the package verification.  Did the keys change?  Yeah I will pastebin
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> xamox: dont think so, the pastebin will tell us a lot
[14:43] <Kevin`> Prock81: none of those steps are necessary to boot windows from an internal hard drive
[14:43] <Prock81> i dont know what ubuntu uses, im just used to grubfordos, and what im wanting to do, thats how its mentioned on hte fourm
[14:43] <xamox> ActionParsnip, https://gist.github.com/xamox/6140395
[14:44] <Prock81> Kevin` i dont want to format or shrink my partition, and i need to run windows outside of a VM
[14:44] <varunendra> xubuntu004, is any other package manager open? Software Center, Synaptic etc.. If yes, close it first.
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> xamox: looks like the 3rd party package source you have enabled is having issues
[14:44] <gazarsgo> Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> ?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> xamox: or the folder was removed (as the others hit ok)
[14:45] <xubuntu004> varunendra all closed
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> gazarsgo: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5
[14:45] <xubuntu004> varunendra , and still same
[14:45] <xamox> ActionParsnip, Right, but this is from the recommended AMI from ec2, so it should be a default install, nothing custom.
[14:46] <reisio> ledtc: by doing what
[14:46] <gazarsgo> ActionParsnip: thank you thank you thank you thank you
[14:46] <Prock81> Kevin` if u know a way to run paltalk on ubuntu i wont need windows, it checks to see if its on a vm and then shuts down
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> gazarsgo: all better?
[14:46] <ledtc> reisio turning of everything i could find with the label AICP" in the boot
[14:46] <gazarsgo> yeah
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> xamox: doesnt make any difference, if its having issues then ts having issues
[14:46] <Prock81> Kevin` and not the express, it has to many problems
[14:46] <Kevin`> Prock81: I have never used paltalk, what is it?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> gazarsgo: sweet
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> xamox: you culd report the issue to your provider
[14:46] <ledtc> utfans05 what file system should i use, Entire disk and set up lvm ?
[14:47] <Prock81> a chat, with rooms, im's, cam and mic
[14:47] <reisio> ledtc: if nothing is installed on the hard disk yet, I don't see how it could break anything
[14:47] <reisio> ledtc: if you install an OS, it'll either work or not
[14:47] <utfans05> ledtc, are you planning on doing anything funky with the disk?
[14:47] <ledtc> reisio now i mean like surten programs might not funciton they way they normaly do ?
[14:47] <Kevin`> Prock81: you could try running it in wine, but if they don't want users running it, it might have checks for that too
[14:47] <ledtc> utfans05 no raid, just simpel file server + nas + vpn machine
[14:48] <varunendra> xubuntu004, to be extra sure that we don't accidentally do something wrong, you may try the 'purge' command after a reboot. If the 'lock' error still occurs, we'll need to manually delete the 'lock' file.
[14:48] <Prock81> Kevin` www.paltalk.com the express is very buggy for me, and others say the same, but the installable is fine
[14:48] <utfans05> ledtc, entire disk is fine
[14:48] <ledtc> utfans05 and set up lvm ?
[14:48] <gregor_> what are the best bit torrent sites to downalod from ?
[14:48] <xamox> ActionParsnip, Report to Amazon?
[14:48] <utfans05> ledtc, you dont need lvm.
[14:48] <utfans05> ledtc, just adds some complications to the process.
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> xamox: whoever runs the package source you are having issue with
[14:48] <ledtc> utfans05 oki,thx
[14:48] <gazarsgo> ActionParsnip: maybe it didn't, someone else switched out the apt repo while i was in here, that's the same key we had
[14:48] <xamox> ActionParsnip, okay.
[14:49] <SuRfDaEmOn> gregor_: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[14:49] <Prock81> Kevin` well in wine it just crashes with no error message, not one of its messages saying it cant be run in vm
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> xamox: those amazon boxes always have some bastardized install with all inds of weirdness that gets asked in here
[14:49] <reisio> ledtc: mmm, probably rare
[14:49] <utfans05> Prock81, call it from a terminal and watch the messages when it crashes.
[14:49] <xamox> ActionParsnip, okay.  first time I've had that problem and have been running AWS with ubuntu server for over a year now.
[14:49] <reisio> ledtc: if you disabled a bunch of them, though, you might go back and figure out which specific one/s are required to be toggled, instead
[14:50] <Prock81> wine paltalk
[14:50] <Prock81> wine: cannot find L"C:\\windows\\system32\\paltalk.exe"
[14:50] <ledtc> reisio ....ohh yeah your right f
[14:50] <stef1a> is there a way to convert pdf files to html?
[14:50] <DJones> gregor_: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads Has links to torrent downloads of Ubuntu
[14:51] <ledtc> prock81 ...dude you
[14:51] <ledtc> prock81 ...dude you're using linux
[14:51] <Prock81> i know
[14:51] <Prock81> that ledtc
[14:51] <SuRfDaEmOn> !enter
[14:51] <Kevin`> Prock81: anyway, ubuntu uses grub by default, so assuming those instructions work at all (I suspect not, since windows xp needs native disk access, doesn't support images, and blacklists usb booting etc), you can add them to the system boot menu
[14:52] <ledtc> utfans05 i disabel a bunch acpi in the f6 menu, will that become i problem later on ?
[14:52] <utfans05> ledtc, you need to reenable when you disabled
[14:52] <Prock81> brb bathroom
[14:52] <ledtc> utfans05 how do i do that ? :s
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> xamox: server are not 100% faultproof
[14:53] <utfans05> ledtc, you should be able to when you restart.
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> Prock81: windows support in ##windows
[14:53] <utfans05> ledtc, what all did you disable?
[14:54] <ledtc> utfans05 acpi - off + acpit off + lacpi of + nomodset
[14:54] <utfans05> ledtc,  you will have to leave the acpi off
[14:54] <Prock81>  ActionParsnip this would be more a linux question
[14:55] <ledtc> utfans05 yeah i thought so but might it be bad for me in the future ?
[14:55] <gazarsgo> xamox: are you having trouble with us-east-1.ec2.ubuntu. for apt ?
[14:55] <xamox> gazarsgo, I am.
[14:55] <gazarsgo> we had to swap out to a different apt repo :(
[14:55] <gazarsgo> using anl.gov atm
[14:55] <utfans05> ledtc, shouldnt, you just told it how you want it to interface with your hard drive, so you have to leave it that way now.
[14:55] <Prock81> how can i modify my boot so i can add other options and not boot stright away into ubuntu
[14:55] <xamox> gazarsgo, just use a mirror then?
[14:55] <gazarsgo> yeah
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> Prock81: edit /etc/default/grub   to give a time out and such
[14:56] <utfans05> Prock81, you will have to edit your grub settings. I would suggest you look at a guide before doing that
[14:56] <gazarsgo> seems like key rotated on us-east-1.ec2...
[14:56] <xamox> gazarsgo, okay.  Can I just regen keys?
[14:56] <gazarsgo> i'm key-dumb, so i don't know, sorry
[14:57] <ledtc> utfans05 just a question, when using the SFTP is it possible to block the user form browsing parent folders ? (lock the user to there homefolder
[14:57] <jgornick> Hey guys, I'm running 12.04 and what are the options available to install a newer version of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qrencode. I'd like to upgrade qrencode on my 12.04 instance to the latest version (3.4.2).
[14:58] <utfans05> ledtc, you will have to jail the user to the directorys you want him to have access
[14:58] <ledtc> utfans05 is that simpel ?
[14:59] <Kevin`> Prock81: remove the grub_hidden_timeout option from /etc/default/grub
[14:59] <utfans05> ledtc, you need to make sure he is in the proper groups, so set up groups for FTP and make sure that the ppl that are goign to have access to the files are in the proper groups
[14:59] <utfans05> ledtc, let me grab you a guide :) itll be easier than explaing and its a really good guide.
[15:00] <ledtc> utfans05 the reasson im asking is that i got 2tb storage of a freind of mine if i promised to make it acesseable online
[15:00] <utfans05> you are goign to have to set up port forwarding in your router to go to that server
[15:00] <Prock81> what is GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[15:00] <Prock81> GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true
[15:00] <ledtc> utfans05 so i thought an sftp app on his phone would be simplest way right ? to upload files and stream musik ?
[15:00] <bolD> ÇÀ ÂÄÂ!!!!!
[15:00] <Prock81> would i need to change that if im adding a manual entry
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> ledtc: I use sftp to transfer data to and from my phone, over wifi or WAN as it is visible to the web :)
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> ledtc: data availability rocks
[15:01] <utfans05> ledtc, http://www.rackspace.com/knowledge_center/article/rackspace-cloud-essentials-5-secure-file-transfer-protocol-sftp
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> ledtc: I use andftp to transfer data :)
[15:01] <utfans05> ledtc, that will show you how to jail users so that they only have access to what you want them to see.
[15:02] <ledtc> actionparsnip and streaming musik ?
[15:02] <utfans05> ledtc, you might have to set up port forwarding on your router to ensure he can get to the server.
[15:02] <utfans05> streaming music will depend on your upload speed.
[15:02] <utfans05> you should be fine.
[15:02] <ledtc> utfans05 belive me after what i went though just trying to get linux on my second server(this) opening a port will be pure heaven, yeah but can you stream over sftp ? :s
[15:02] <K1CKA55_> Hello
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> ledtc: plex is my media streamer, you can use mediatomb or similar too
[15:03] <utfans05> ledtc, you should be able to. its just a secure ftp connection.
[15:04] <ledtc> utfans05 im in, the ubuntu server started up fine, now im totally lost but il sort that out aswell :)
[15:04] <Anaxandridas> Can someone please walk a noob through reinstalling Ubuntu?
[15:04] <K1CKA55_> Im trying to conserve more battery power on my Asus UX32VD besides enabling APLM what else can i do ??
[15:05] <utfans05> ledtc, first thing you can do is get your internet connectivity sorted.
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> Anaxandridas: its no different to installing it, wipe the partitions you have for ubuntu now, install to the freed space
[15:05] <ledtc> utfans05 thats already done :)
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> Anaxandridas: I assume you did NOT us Wubi
[15:05] <xubuntu984> varunendra , so what i heve to do after reboot ?
[15:06] <zaggynl> hi, my auth.log is full with cron doing log on/log off
[15:06] <zaggynl> crontab.d contains anacron with "30 7    * * *   root    start -q anacron || :"
[15:06] <Anaxandridas> ActionParsnip, I did not use Wubi. I have no partitions. And,I'd love to do it as easily as first installing it was, but that seems to be proving a problem.
[15:06] <zaggynl> what does it do?
[15:06] <xubuntu984> varunendra , bomzas@bomzas-HP-G5000-GH972EA-ABU:~$ sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source [sudo] password for bomzas:  E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.  bomzas@bomzas-HP-G5000-GH972EA-ABU:~$
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> Anaxandridas: if you didnt use wubi then there MUST be partitions
[15:07] <Anaxandridas> ActionParsnip, Ok, then there ARE partitions. I am a NOOB here asking for help, because I'm too stupid to know what the right answer it.
[15:07] <Anaxandridas> is*.
[15:07] <squig> so, Im mucking about with a vpn, through network manager, and nothing happens (nothing to syslog) when I try and connect
[15:07] <squig> Is there a way to reinstall network manager and all required packages?
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> Anaxandridas: do you only have Ubuntu installed?
[15:07] <Anaxandridas> The question is, how do I do it? Yes, ActionParsnip, I only have Ubuntu installed.
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> zaggynl: at 7:30am every day, run that command
[15:08] <utfans05> ledtc, if you want, take a look at rackspaces knowldge center, it has a ton of stuff in helping you setup and manage a server.
[15:08] <zaggynl> appears to be related to automatic updates hanging and then taking anacron with it
[15:09] <zaggynl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/anacron/+bug/606491
[15:09] <Prock81> internet stoped, im at mcdonalds
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> zaggynl: you can blank your auth.log file off with:  cat /dev/null /var/log/auth.log
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> zaggynl: you can blank your auth.log file off with:  cat /dev/null > /var/log/auth.log
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> zaggynl: missed the redirect :)
[15:09] <zaggynl> thanks
[15:09] <Prock81> what do i need to add or modify to be able to select my new manual entry to grub,
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> Prock81: just hold SHIFT at boot, select it that way.
[15:10] <zaggynl> looking back at the logs, it has been doing that for a long while O.o
[15:10] <Prock81> ok, does left of right matter
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> zaggynl: what is the output of:   du -h /var/log/auth.log
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> Prock81: dont think so
[15:11] <zaggynl> 96K
[15:11] <zaggynl> so no problem there
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> zaggynl: thats ok, quite small
[15:11] <zaggynl> think a couple weeks
[15:11] <zaggynl> had mdadm yell at me because system eventually rebooted
[15:12] <varunendra> xubuntu984, this is a different problem now. Please do what the error message suggests, that is, 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' . Let us know if it finishes successfully or returns some error.
[15:14] <Prock81> i have ubuntu all in one partition, for this line how would i be afle to tell if the(hd0,0) part needs to be modifyed, my image will be in the root of my drive, not "/root" but "/" ... map (hd0,0)/winxp.vhd (hd0)
[15:14] <xubuntu984> varunendra , bomzas@bomzas-HP-G5000-GH972EA-ABU:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a Setting up bcmwl-kernel-source (6.20.155.1+bdcom-0ubuntu6) ... Removing old bcmwl-6.20.155.1+bdcom DKMS files...  -------- Uninstall Beginning -------- Module:  bcmwl Version: 6.20.155.1+bdcom Kernel:  3.8.0-27-generic (i686) -------------------------------------  Status: Before uninstall, this module version was ACTIVE on this kernel.  wl.ko:  - Uninstallat
[15:14] <xubuntu984> ------------------------------ Deleting module version: 6.20.155.1+bdcom completely from the DKMS tree. ------------------------------ Done. Loading new bcmwl-6.20.155.1+bdcom DKMS files... Building only for 3.8.0-27-generic Building for architecture i686 Building initial module for 3.8.0-27-generic Done.  wl: Running module version sanity check.  - Original module    - No original module exists within this kernel  - Installation   
[15:14] <varunendra> !pastebin | xubuntu984
[15:14] <Anaxandridas> How do I run a mounted CD in Ubuntu? I don't want to open it to look at the contents, I just want to run the ISO that is mounted.
[15:14] <Alex_____> How to attach a sound recording to the zoneminder
[15:15] <Alex_____> How to attach a sound recording to the zoneminder?
[15:15] <BrixSat> hello
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> Anaxandridas: you dont run a CD, you run the applications on the CD
[15:16] <BrixSat> imagine site1.com and site2.com booth dns pointint to x.x.x.x and when x.x.x.x receives the request of site1.com forwards to y.y.y.y and site2.com forwards to z.z.z.z how can i do that?
[15:16] <Alex_____> How to attach a sound recording to the zoneminder? PLs? help
[15:16] <xubuntu984> varunendra , http://paste.ubuntu.com/5940421/
[15:17] <cutie> BrixSat: The words you're looking for are "transparent HTTP forwarding proxy" - you can use nginx for this
[15:17] <BrixSat> cutie:  thanks
[15:17] <Elisha> reverse proxy ?
[15:17] <Anaxandridas> ActionParsnip, which action on the Ubuntu installation CD should I be running?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> Anaxandridas: what do you want to achieve?
[15:18] <Anaxandridas> ActionParsnip, as established before, I want to reinstall Ubuntu.
[15:18] <blazemore> Anaxandridas: How did you install it in the first place?
[15:18] <BrixSat> cutie:  any software other than nginx?
[15:18] <cutie> BrixSat: I've never used any
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> Anaxandridas: then you need to boot to the CD as you did when you first installed
[15:19] <Anaxandridas> blazemore, from a boot CD. Still have the BootCD. Doesn't seem to be working though. I can't get to the BIOS menu to change the boot order, the key that was working to do it no longer is.
[15:19] <blazemore> Anaxandridas: That's an issue with you or your computer, not with Ubuntu
[15:19] <blazemore> Anaxandridas: It's probably Delete or F12 to get to the BIOS
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> Anaxandridas: use F11 or F12 to then select the CD to boot from
[15:20] <varunendra> xubuntu984, looks like if finished correctly, but then reinstalled again. What is the output of "bcmwl-kernel-source | grep ersion"
[15:20] <Marlene> !irccommand | marlene
[15:20] <auronandace> Marlene: irc help can be found at #freenode
[15:20] <Marlene> !irc | marlene
[15:21] <Marlene> irc for uuntu
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> Marlene: this is the official Ubuntu support channel
[15:21] <Marlene> irc for ubuntu
[15:21] <BrixSat> !irc | BrixSat
[15:22] <Marlene> i mean irc programmes altrantive to irssi
[15:22] <xubuntu984> varunendra , http://paste.ubuntu.com/5940441/
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Marlene: do you mean an IRC _client_
[15:22] <Anaxandridas> blazemore, like I said, neither one of those is doing it. Same for F1, F2, F11, and backspace.
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Marlene: then try writing that rather than ambiguous nonesense
[15:22] <auronandace> Marlene: weechat is a good cli client
[15:22] <BrixSat> Marlene: hello :)
[15:22] <Anaxandridas> I don't doubt that it's my computer. WHich is why I'm trying to install it from an ISO now, blazemore/
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Marlene: 'irc for ubuntu' doesn't mean 'Is there an alternative to irssi'
[15:23] <varunendra> xubuntu984, sorry, the full command - "dpkg -s bcmwl-kernel-source | grep ersion"
[15:23] <youknowwho> I have recently installed ubuntu 12.04 in my PC. I want all my customization and packages installed in my computer at my work place in my new PC. Is there any one click method to make such a backup and restore ?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> youknowwho: dejadup is installed by default, you can create a backup using that
[15:24] <kallikanzarid> hi all
[15:24] <Anaxandridas> So blazemore ... How do I install it from the ISO?
[15:25] <tones> youknowwho, redobackup.org will make a one click backup dvd
[15:25] <john_doe_jr> I'm trying to mount something in the fstab but I keep getting the following error message, "mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting"
[15:25] <kallikanzarid> I have originally installed Ubuntu on an UEFI machine with secure boot enabled, now it's disabled. How do I get proprietary NVidia drivers to appear in the Additional Drivers screen?
[15:25] <utfans05> Anaxandridas, you have to get into your bios's boot menu
[15:25] <youknowwho> ActionParsnip: dejadup only backs up my user data ( /home folder ) . I want all the packages installed in my old machine and all configurations backup up too.
[15:25] <ledtc> utfans05 do you have any experienc with VPN ?
[15:25] <Ahti> Hello
[15:25] <ffio> which are hids that we can use with ubuntu ?
[15:25] <utfans05> ledtc, only that I use it for work :P
[15:26] <kallikanzarid> Human Interface Devices? My mouse works
[15:27] <kallikanzarid> I had some success with that pen-and-board thingy
[15:27] <kallikanzarid> it doesn't respect the aspect ratio, and I don't think it can be configured without some heavy xorg config diving
[15:27] <ledtc> utfans05 im thinking of hosting an vpn so that i  acess all my stuff secure ?
[15:28] <utfans05> ledtc, anything will be secure as long as you set it up properly.
[15:28] <kallikanzarid> ledtc, checkout http://www.lowendbox.com/ for good prices
[15:28] <kallikanzarid> oh, sorry, I though you mean VPS
[15:28] <youknowwho> I would like to make a small correction. One click backup is preferabl e for me, but my necessity is that I need all the configurations and packages and should be able to do it with a pendrive ( no CD drive ).  For incorporating that I am ready to perform a leangthy and even  a command line backup.
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> youknowwho: then backup /etc as well, dejadup can backup anything you tell it
[15:28] <kallikanzarid> *said
[15:29] <utfans05> kallikanzarid, why do that when you can just go with rackspace?
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> ledtc: you can use an SSH tunnel and access stuff securely down that, VPN is also a way :)
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> !backup | youknowwho
[15:30] <youknowwho> ActionParsnip: What I want is my new computer should be an exact clone of my PC . ( in terms of hardware, OS and architecture it already is). Will dejadup do it ?
[15:30] <kallikanzarid> utfans05, how much does it cost?
[15:31] <utfans05> depends on what you want...
[15:31] <utfans05> ive had 3 servers spun up for a week and im only at like $10
[15:31] <utfans05> and I get 24/7 support incase something breaks.
[15:32] <kallikanzarid> repeating my original question
[15:32] <kallikanzarid> I have originally installed Ubuntu on an UEFI machine with secure boot enabled, now it's disabled. How do I get proprietary NVidia drivers to appear in the Additional Drivers screen?
[15:33] <kallikanzarid> and also, is it safe to just install them with apt-get?
[15:33] <darkangel> Hey guys just woundering what is A Generic Image what is its perpose
[15:33] <Anaxandridas> Can anyone please tell me how to reinstall Ubuntu WITHOUT being able to access my bios menu?
[15:33] <Agor> How remove PulseAudio?
[15:33] <Prock81> what command can give me a print out of my divices and partitions in this format example (hd0,0) for chainloader
[15:33] <Agor> How remove PulseAudio?
[15:34] <utfans05> Prock81, lsblk
[15:34] <Agor> How remove PulseAudio?
[15:34] <Marlene> what is the programme can i use to tunnel my progmmes via sock5 or proxy iam using ssh server
[15:34] <Frogging|work> Agor, stop asking every 5 seconds
[15:34] <Agor> help plz
[15:34] <utfans05> Agor, apt-get remoce pluse-audio
[15:34] <utfans05> that might not be the exact name but you will figure it out
[15:34] <kallikanzarid> Agor, open /etc/pulse/client.conf
[15:34] <xubuntu984> varunendra , http://paste.ubuntu.com/5940496/
[15:34] <darkangel> Hey guys just woundering what is A Generic Image what is its perpose
[15:35] <youknowwho> ActionParsnip: thanks. Ihave started the backup.
[15:35] <kallikanzarid> write these:
[15:35] <Frogging|work> Agor: Actually that
[15:35] <Frogging|work> is
[15:35] <kallikanzarid> autospawn = no
[15:35] <kallikanzarid> daemon-binary = /bin/true
[15:35] <Frogging|work> sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
[15:35] <Agor> apt-get remoce pluse-audio not found
[15:35] <kallikanzarid> Frogging|work, bad idea
[15:35] <Frogging|work> kallikanzarid: That removes Pulseaudio, doesn't it?
[15:35] <kallikanzarid> pretty much all multimedia packages depend on pulse
[15:35] <kallikanzarid> just disabling it is the way to go
[15:36] <john_doe_jr> I'm trying to mount something in the fstab but I keep getting the following error message, "mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting"
[15:36] <Agor> and?
[15:36] <Frogging|work> Agor: Yeah, you probably want to disable it rather than remove it completely. Removing that package will break everything
[15:36] <Agor> and /etc/pulse/client.conf
[15:37] <varunendra> xubuntu984, okay, so it actually got reinstalled. Just do - "sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source". Should be good this time (make sure no other package manager is open).
[15:37] <Agor> daemon-binary = /usr/bin/true ?
[15:38] <Agor> default-server = alsa?
[15:38] <Agor> help plz
[15:38] <Marlene> Frogging|work : what is the programme can i use to tunnel my progmmes via sock5 or proxy iam using ssh server
[15:38] <utfans05> !paitence | Agor
[15:38] <Agor> How remove PulseAudio?
[15:38] <utfans05> cant spell today...
[15:39] <kallikanzarid>  autospawn = no
[15:39] <kallikanzarid> daemon-binary = /bin/true
[15:39] <kallikanzarid> nothing else is necessary
[15:39] <kallikanzarid> after you save client.conf, just kill pulse and it's gone
[15:39] <Agor> kali me need restart comp?
[15:40] <Frogging|work> Marlene: One sec, I had a file with some commands to do just that
[15:40] <kallikanzarid> no, just run killall pulseaudio
[15:40] <kallikanzarid> and it won't start anymore
[15:40] <Agor> every computer start need do it?
[15:40] <kallikanzarid> restart your browser or media player, too
[15:40] <kallikanzarid> Agor, no
[15:41] <xubuntu984> varunendra , http://paste.ubuntu.com/5940514/
[15:41] <Frogging|work> Marlene: sudo ssh -D 1080 [server]
[15:41] <Agor> alsamixer ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: Connection refused  cannot open mixer: В соединении отказано
[15:41] <Agor> alsamixer no work
[15:41] <Frogging|work> Then you can use localhost:1080 as a socks5 proxy, Marlene
[15:41] <utab> I have new laptop installed with Windows 7 and trying to install ubuntu 13.04 from usb stick however I am getting internal error message
[15:42] <kallikanzarid> Agor, I'm not sure what you did
[15:42] <Agor> kali alsamixer
[15:42] <Frogging|work> Yeah, a long time ago I wrote a thing about it. http://www.fastquake.com/2010/05/howto-use-dd-wrt-to-bypass-filters-part-3-2-ssh-the-client/
[15:42] <Agor> in console alsamixer
[15:42] <Marlene> Frogging|work : you dont get what i mean
[15:42] <kallikanzarid> did you change the two lines like i told you to?
[15:42] <Agor> this not work
[15:42] <Agor> yes
[15:42] <kallikanzarid> reboot and see if the problem persists
[15:42] <Frogging|work> Marlene: Oh, you mean like a wrapper to force a program through a proxy?
[15:42] <utab> which shows in the deails window that crash comes from gnomesettings daemon
[15:42] <kallikanzarid> you may also want to ask people who speak your native language
[15:42] <Agor> hor chnge audio system in ubuntu?
[15:43] <utab> I am not sure what the problem is>
[15:43] <Agor> how
[15:43] <Marlene> Frogging|work : iam mean i am using CLI and i want tunnel my application via sock5 or proxy
[15:43] <Marlene> i altrantive to proxychain
[15:43] <Agor> how chnge audio system in ubuntu? plz i remember in conolse little gui menu
[15:43] <Agor> alsa/OSS...
[15:43] <kallikanzarid> Agor, where are you from?
[15:44] <utfans05> LOL
[15:44] <Agor> bb then i just change OS
[15:44] <kallikanzarid> ffs
[15:44] <Agor> cose cant delie audio bad sewrver
[15:44] <daftykins> Agor: bye
[15:44] <Agor> delite
[15:44] <Frogging|work> Marlene: Okay. There's tsocks
[15:44] <kallikanzarid> so i sat in the attic...
[15:45] <Agor> what light distro on Debian need use?
[15:45] <Agor> light
[15:45] <Agor> plz
[15:45] <daftykins> Agor: nobody understands you, what language do you speak?
[15:45] <varunendra> xubuntu984, can you confirm that no package manager is running? Like Ubuntu Software Center, Update manager, or Synaptic.. ?
[15:45] <Frogging|work> Marlene: Or there's the more updated and well-maintained Proxychains. I recommend that.
[15:45] <utfans05> Where are you from Agor?
[15:46] <kallikanzarid> Agor, country?
[15:46] <Agor> кгы
[15:46] <Agor> rus
[15:46] <kallikanzarid> aha
[15:46] <daftykins> !ru
[15:46] <Agor> there are need registr
[15:46] <kallikanzarid> ты дебил, иди спрашивай на русском форуме
[15:46] <Agor> no
[15:46] <daftykins> so register.
[15:46] <Agor> это ты дебил
[15:46] <xubuntu984> varunendra , yes just terminal and firefox
[15:46] <Agor> иди нах со своим форумом
[15:46] <kallikanzarid> доооо
[15:46] <Agor> мне делать нечего?
[15:47] <kallikanzarid> я тебе сказал, открой /etc/pulse/client.conf
[15:47] <kallikanzarid> поменяй там две строки
[15:47] <Agor> зачем закрыли канал на фринод
[15:47] <kallikanzarid> убей пульс
[15:47] <kallikanzarid> и все
[15:47] <FloodBot1> kallikanzarid: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:47] <Agor> там теперь регарться надо
[15:47] <Agor> яже сделал
[15:47] <varunendra> xubuntu984, then do this - "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock" .... then try again - "sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source". Post back if there are any new errors.
[15:47] <FloodBot1> Agor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:47] <Agor> я так и сделал
[15:47] <Nach0z> privyet.
[15:47] <Marlene> when i was type command by mistake like  : pioc the bash say did you mena pico
[15:47] <kallikanzarid> thank you
[15:47] <Marlene> what is happen to syantex error in typing
[15:47] <Marlene> i dont see this anymore
[15:48] <pl2> Anyonne know how to get rid of an HDIO_GET_IDENTITY error? It keeps crashing my session and I can't stay logged in more than a few minutes at a time without crashing..
[15:48] <Anaxandridas> How do I reinstall Ubuntu if I CAN'T access my bios menu?
[15:49] <darkangel> Hey does any 1 know what a Generic is and what its perpose is its a Update from Update Manager?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> pl2: what does it mean?
[15:49] <Left_Turn> hi i installed ubuntu via iso like said... everything was going fine till i clicked install and it said something like... no root path or file speciified... please select one
[15:49] <daftykins> Anaxandridas: in what situation can you ever not access BIOS?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> darkangel: linux-image-generic is the kernel
[15:49] <kallikanzarid> Anaxandridas, take the hdd out and install ubuntu using a different pc
[15:49] <reisio> Left_Turn: you did manual partitioning?
[15:49] <pl2> ActionParsnip, meaning, i'm logged in xfce as normal. then all of a sudden I get logged out and set to the login screen
[15:49] <Left_Turn> yes and it worked fine
[15:49] <Left_Turn> ex4
[15:49] <Left_Turn> etc
[15:49] <darkangel> yeah but why new 1s does it take care of errors or something?
[15:50] <reisio> Left_Turn: did you assign '/' to one of the partitions?
[15:50] <daftykins> darkangel: yeah fixes
[15:50] <Left_Turn> omg i dont think so
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> pl2: no, what does the message mean?
[15:50] <reisio> Left_Turn: :) that's root
[15:50] <darkangel> ok thx buddy
[15:50] <Left_Turn> it was a select menu
[15:50] <reisio> Left_Turn: traditionally you'll also want to assign one to swap
[15:50] <Anaxandridas> daftykins, the BIOS menu won't come up. When I start the computer, it goes straight from blank screen to Ubuntu screen. No amount of pressing F1, F2, F11, F12, Delete, Backspace, or Enter, makes a difference.
[15:50] <reisio> Left_Turn: right
[15:50] <pl2> ActionParsnip, the exact error I get is: hdio_get_identity failed for '/dev/sdb' invalid argument. .. But I have nothing attached to /dev/sdb
[15:50] <Left_Turn> all i had to do was check one
[15:50] <Left_Turn> i didnt see any place for input
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> pl2: was their previously?
[15:50] <Left_Turn> to put /
[15:50] <daftykins> Anaxandridas: what about on a cold boot? i.e. power on from off
[15:51] <zyrox> Anaxandridas: Hav you tried pressing F1 and Delete over and over very fast when the PC boots up?
[15:51] <daftykins> *F2
[15:51] <Left_Turn> it also had mount options that were blank
[15:51] <Left_Turn> like swap, mnt
[15:51] <Left_Turn> what is all this
[15:51] <zyrox> Anaxandridas: Yeah F2...
[15:51] <Left_Turn> reisio helpppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[15:52] <Anaxandridas> daftykins, in that case, the best I get is a blank screen with an option F11 for system restore... That has a disc check menu, but it isn't bios and has nothing to do with it.
[15:52] <pl2> ActionParsnip, it started happening after i installed lib-gtk3-dev. I've sinced purged it and it's still happening. So not sure what caused it anymore. Installing that package, though, updated nearly 100 packages I needed to update so i'm thinking there are version problems.
[15:52] <xubuntu984> varunendra , http://paste.ubuntu.com/5940562/
[15:52] <daftykins> Left_Turn: if you keep pressing enter so much, the spam bots will kick you
[15:52] <Left_Turn> :(
[15:52] <Anaxandridas> zyrox, all those buttons that I said I tried? I tried them, yes.
[15:52] <daftykins> Anaxandridas: what kind of system is this? 0o
[15:52] <pl2> ActionParsnip, But i can't do a proper update if the session keeps crashing.. hence, my problem ;)
[15:52] <Anaxandridas> I think I've rebooted my computer more in the last four hours than the rest of my computer lifetime total.
[15:52] <Left_Turn> do i select anything in the moutn install option?
[15:52] <reisio> Left_Turn: if memory serves there's a place to specify FS format (ext4, swap), and to the right a mount point ('/', swap)
[15:53] <Left_Turn> ohhhhhhh i see
[15:53] <Left_Turn> yes i saw that
[15:53] <reisio> Left_Turn: Type, then Mount point
[15:53] <Left_Turn> so / swap for mount?
[15:53] <Anaxandridas> daftykins, it WAS a Windows 8 hp, but Win8 sucks so much I finally made the change to Linux. Now I did something to Ubuntu, and it's slow as hell, so I figure reinstalling it will help.
[15:53] <reisio> Left_Turn: / is where the files go
[15:53] <reisio> Left_Turn: swap for swap
[15:53] <Left_Turn> ah i see
[15:53] <reisio> / is the large one
[15:53] <Anaxandridas> daftykins, if there's another step short of reinstallation that will rstore Ubuntu to its former glory (not slow as hell), I'd love to try that.
[15:53] <reisio> swap probably no more than equivalent to your RAM in capacity
[15:54] <varunendra> xubuntu984, since it clearly says "you must..", please do so - 'sudo dpkg --configure -a', then try again the purge command.. :/
[15:54] <Left_Turn> i see
[15:54] <zyrox> Anaxandridas: Do you have a SSD disk?
[15:54] <Left_Turn> so im giving it 12 gb
[15:54] <Left_Turn> give 11 to /
[15:54] <Left_Turn> abnd 1 to swap?
[15:55] <Anaxandridas> zyrox, no.
[15:55] <Left_Turn> should i erase the partition again or just run the iso once more
[15:55] <Marlene> VPS : there is VPS provider is http://digitalocean.com and very cheap and powerful
[15:55] <pranav> any android phone manager for linux ?
[15:56] <zyrox> Anaxandridas: And you have tried tapping both F2 and Delete really fast immidiately after power on?
[15:56] <Anaxandridas> Yes, zyrox, I have tried pressing all the above listed buttons repeatedly when starting up.
[15:56] <_Bauer> What is a simple photo editing application to add text, few arrows? Gimp is too complicated, and the screenshot app (Shutter) does not support editing
[15:56] <Anaxandridas> Does anyone here know how to reinstall without BIOS? Apparently it's possible.
[15:57] <xubuntu984> varunendra , http://paste.ubuntu.com/5940578/
[15:57] <daftykins> Anaxandridas: try power off, remove the battery + mains, reattach the mains only then power on and try the common BIOS keys again
[15:57] <daftykins> assuming it's a laptop
[15:58] <Anaxandridas> daftykins, thanks.
[15:59] <jhutchins> Another trick is to just hold down one or more keyboard keys while booting to generate a keyboard error.
[15:59] <ledtc> reisio thx for you're help
[15:59] <ledtc> utfans05 so i have no ide'a where to start building my server and sugestions ?
[16:00] <varunendra> xubuntu984, hmm.. make sure no package manager is running (including apt-get in terminal), then same cycle again without reboot - "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock"..... then "sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source"
[16:04] <pl2> How can I run ubuntu without ever logging into the GUI and with full networking?
[16:05] <vlt> pl2: Where’s the problem?
[16:05] <xubuntu984> varunendra , http://paste.ubuntu.com/5940606/
[16:05] <pl2> vlt, It's hopeless and tired of explaining it at this point. No one seems to know what the issue is
[16:07] <reisio> pl2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[16:07] <pl2> reisio, tried it. can't get networking to work and I don't have wired internet
[16:08] <reisio> ah
[16:08] <reisio> pl2: what's the problem, again? some graphics thing?
[16:08] <Anaxandridas> How does one reinstall Ubuntu if one does NOT have access to the BIOS menu?
[16:09] <varunendra> xubuntu984, and the "sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source" command? Does it return the same 'lock' error again?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Anaxandridas: you need the bios to boot CD first, or USB. Otherwise you are stuck
[16:09] <ledtc> Looking for guidance, for setting up my server dont know where to start
[16:10] <pl2> I randomly get this error: hdio_get_identity failed for '/dev/sdb' invalid argument.   .. It crashes the xfce and logs me out. Though clicking on certain things trigger it.
[16:10] <john_doe_jr> I want to do a mount -a but get the output of the command…how do I do that in terminal?
[16:10] <Ironsight> Some machines let you mash esc, or a function key to select boot device...
[16:10] <mudkip908> f12 is another common one
[16:10] <ledtc> or del
[16:10] <blazemore> !details | ledtc
[16:10] <xubuntu984> varunendra , yes
[16:10] <lucifer_> @mL33t@666
[16:11] <pl2> reisio, ^ that. and i don't have anything on /dev/sdb which is why it's so strange. I believe the cause is a partial upgrade. But i can't finish the upgrade if I can't stay logged in.
[16:11] <ledtc> blazemore id like a longer conversation, i dont want to fill this channel with all my questions and discussion
[16:12] <Ironsight> Ask all the ubuntu questions you want :)
[16:12] <Ironsight> That's what we are here for.
[16:12] <Anaxandridas> ActionParsnip, being stuck with a dysfunctional computer that I cannot fix does not sound like the final solution.
[16:12] <Awaken> pl2, it's not an older system with a via chipset on the motehrboard is it ?
[16:13] <CharlieSu> Anyone having issues with http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ ?   I'm getting 403's for everything.   http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libv/libvirt/libvirt0_0.9.8-2ubuntu17.8_amd64.deb
[16:13] <ledtc> well, i just reconnect my second hdd as only have 2 sata cable :$ how do i check if its working '?
[16:13] <Awaken> and u say its dropping you out of xfce- let it, ctrl alt f1 and do sudo-apt-get update
[16:13] <Awaken> then upgrade
[16:13] <Awaken> then dist-upgrade if you wanted
[16:13] <pl2> Awaken, It may be. I'm on a Lenovo T410. The graphics are integrated.
[16:13] <Awaken> T410 is a bit newer than I was thinking
[16:14] <Awaken> but yeah u dont need to be in the desktop to do upgrade
[16:14] <Awaken> and a partial upgrade would most likely break lots of things
[16:14] <Awaken> if it crashed in the middle or something
[16:14] <Ironsight> ledtc: you can look at your drives with fdisk -l (as in lemon)
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> Anaxandridas: i suggest you consult your user manual, if you read the screen at boot it will show you what to press
[16:14] <pl2> Awaken, it crashes from ctrl-alt-f1 CLI as well, actually..
[16:14] <Ironsight> ledtc: or you an look at your drives in bios
[16:14] <Guest3471> my system is not able to find a specific wireless network. this network was working fine yesterday. when i am booting with live USB, this netwok working
[16:15] <ledtc> ironsight : i know its in bios, but in windows you have to fix some stuff before they work, ps fdisk -l did nothing ?
[16:15]  * Ironsight checks his terminal...
[16:16] <Anaxandridas> ActionParsnip, I cannot possibly convey well enough to you that hearing that suggestion has not, and will not, help. For whatever reason, I cannot do a DAMNED thing inside my bios menu other than Memory Check and Disc CHeck. I cannot change boot orders. I cannot boot anything from CD.
[16:16] <blazemore> Anaxandridas: That doesn't sound like a BIOS menu
[16:16] <Anaxandridas> Those are, as I have said, the ONLY two options in my BIOS menu, ActionParsnip. That's it. Nothing but that. Memory check and DIsc CHeck.
[16:16] <blazemore> Anaxandridas: What motherboard / laptop do you have?
[16:17] <Anaxandridas> I realise that, blazemore, for a while I thought it wasn't even the right menu. But it says it's BIOS 16.0.0 on that menu,and that's the only place that F2,  F11, or F12 leaders.
[16:17] <varunendra> xubuntu984, then you should fix that error first. Maybe someone else can offer better help with the lock error.
[16:17] <blazemore> Anaxandridas: What motherboard / laptop do you have?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Anaxandridas: does the system have a make and model?
[16:18] <Guest3471> my system is not able to find a specific wireless network. this network was working fine yesterday. when i am booting with live USB, this netwok working
[16:19] <Anaxandridas> blazemore, it was a Windows 8 HP 2000. As far as I know, that is its only designation. I don't know the motherboard.
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> Guest3471: is the OS fully updated?
[16:19] <dotcom420> Hello there. Is there a way to increase file size of a jpg image (say 5 KB to 15 KB) without changing resolution in ubuntu terminal?
[16:19] <utfans05> ledtc, sorry i stepped away
[16:19] <utfans05> ledtc, so what are you wanting to do
[16:19] <Guest3471> ya its updated
[16:19] <Anaxandridas> blazemore, ActionParsnip, I thank you for your assistance thus far. Even if this doesn't go anywhere, I appreciate the help yo utwo have offered.
[16:19] <blazemore> Anaxandridas: Look underneath the laptop is there a sticker with a full model number? (Like HP2000-240CA)
[16:20] <Anaxandridas> blazemore, no, the only sticker says "Windows 8" :P Useful, right?
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Anaxandridas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOwCc-mX8L4   nothing like that?
[16:20] <xubuntu984> maiby spmeone else cen help whit 'lock' error
[16:20] <ledtc> utfans05 well first of i want to se my new hardrive started up as i should, but the fdisk -l command did not work
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Anaxandridas: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&taskId=115&prodSeriesId=5259209&prodTypeId=321957&objectID=c00364979    sates F10 key...tried taht
[16:20] <utfans05> ledtc, pm me
[16:20] <xubuntu984> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5940648/
[16:21] <ledtc> utfans05 join channel ledtc ?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> Anaxandridas: http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Lockups-Freezes-Hangs/how-do-I-boot-from-an-external-cd-dvd-drive/td-p/173155   states ESC will give a selection for boot media as well as F10 to enter BIOS
[16:21] <Anaxandridas> ActionParsnip, last time I saw that menu was when I was disabling UEFI settings on Windows 8, to install Ubuntu.
[16:21] <xubuntu984> who cen help whit this eror ?
[16:21] <xubuntu984> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5940648/
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> Anaxandridas: tried ESC or F10?
[16:22] <Anaxandridas> Since then I haven't seen an F10 option.... I'll go try that. Cross your fingers for me, ActionParsnip and blazemore.
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Anaxandridas: looks like you need to enable some legacy boot option
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> AntiSpamMeta: how am I finding these links....I wonder
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> AntiSpamMeta: sorry, tab fail
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: its almost like I can access information based on a search string
[16:23] <blazemore> ActionParsnip: Me and you share this magical talent. You're not supposed to point it out though...
[16:23] <blazemore> !google | ActionParsnip
[16:24] <poppingtonic> how do I turn off the shutter sound when taking screenshots using the PrtSc key?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: i know but its so frustrating, link after link I was rolling out. None of it was tried
[16:24] <blazemore> ActionParsnip: I'll Google this one, don't worry
[16:24] <blazemore> poppingtonic: sudo mv /usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo/camera-shutter.oga /usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo/camera-shutter-disabled.oga
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> poppingtonic: http://askubuntu.com/questions/140200/how-do-i-disable-the-screenshot-sound
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> poppingtonic: google.com and searched for: printscreen ubuntu disable sound
[16:25] <blazemore> poppingtonic: I searched for: ubuntu disable screenshot sound to find the same link. What did you Google?
[16:26] <blazemore> Home now. Weekend \o/ Good luck with your issues all
[16:26] <killer> hey
[16:27] <poppingtonic> blazemore: "turn off shutter sound ubuntu 12.04"
[16:27] <poppingtonic> in DuckDuckGo
[16:27] <xubuntu984> cen help me someone whit 'lock' error  ??? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5940648/
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | xubuntu984
[16:28] <killer> I dual-booted linux and windows 7 ,Now I want to remove windows completely so that It  doesn't appear even in Boot screen
[16:28] <BluesKaj> xubuntu984, do you have the software center open?
[16:28] <dotcom420> Anyone?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> killer: how did you install ubuntu? did you use wubi?
[16:28] <holstein> xubuntu984: is another process using it?
[16:28] <xubuntu984> BluesKaj no
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> dotcom420: anyone what?
[16:28] <BluesKaj> or another terminal?
[16:29] <killer> ActionParsnip: No I didn't installed wubi , I did a genuine installation
[16:29] <whoever> dotcom420: yes
[16:29] <holstein> xubuntu984: check that you have *no* other package managers open.. close everything and open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update" and share errors
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> dotcom420: you can change its size using convert from imagemagick
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> killer: then you can delete the windows partitions in livecd then resize your ext4 partition(s) into the new space. Not sure about grub though
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> killer: be sure you run a full backup before messing around with partitions in case of catastrophe
[16:30] <mudkip908> ActionParsnip: update-grub?
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> mudkip908: possibly
[16:31] <killer> ActionParsnip: I  earlier deleted Windows but what it did was delete windows(Done) but showed windows in grub
[16:31] <Tore_Kader> Hello everyone, Tore_Kaderhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> killer: try:  sudo os-prober; sudo update-grub
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> Tore_Kader: that is STILL offtopic here
[16:34] <yeats> looks like Tore_Kader is a bot
[16:34] <BluesKaj> Tore_Kader,  what kind of chat do you think this is ?
[16:35] <xubuntu495> ubottu , bomzas@bomzas-HP-G5000-GH972EA-ABU:~$ sudo apt-get update Hit http://extras.ubuntu.com raring Release.gpg Hit http://archive.canonical.com raring Release.gpg                   Hit http://extras.ubuntu.com raring Release                           Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com raring Release.gpg                   Hit http://security.ubuntu.com raring-security Release.gpg            Hit http://archive.canonical.com raring R
[16:35] <mudkip908> xubuntu495: looks normal
[16:35] <holstein> xubuntu495: now, you can try removing the package you were removing
[16:36] <xubuntu495> holstein , http://paste.ubuntu.com/5940702/
[16:37] <holstein> xubuntu495: what is your expertise level? maybe you should just resart the machine, and try runing the process before the lock happens
[16:37] <holstein> xubuntu495: what are you trying to do? and why?
[16:38] <d4m> Have there been any signature changes to the repo keys in the past day?  See signature errors- s3 backed repos, ec2.archive repos.
[16:38] <holstein> xubuntu495: the lock happens when another process is running package managment..
[16:39] <xubuntu495> holstein , i need to get mi wirleless antenna working
[16:39] <Left_Turn> why is the process of installing linux taking 3 days
[16:40] <Left_Turn> i clicked install.,. i chose /
[16:40] <Left_Turn> still it wont install
[16:40] <pl2> Left_Turn, because you're installing Gentoo
[16:40] <holstein> xubuntu495: rebooting will resolve the lock issue you are having.. then you can come here *first*.. and troubleshoot the actual issue.. reboot.. run the command, and come here and refer to..
[16:40] <holstein> !broadcom | xubuntu495
[16:40] <Left_Turn> i give up
[16:41] <Left_Turn> f&%£! iy
[16:41] <Left_Turn> it
[16:41] <xubuntu495> holstein , that tutorial not helps
[16:41] <holstein> xubuntu495: did rebooting help?
[16:41] <xubuntu495> holstein , ok , now i reboot
[16:41] <holstein> xubuntu495: *after* you reboot, and/or manually resolve the lock issue by viewing processes.. then we can discuss the chipset
[16:42] <holstein> Left_Turn: you likely have hardwrae that is not suppporting linux very well
[16:42] <holstein> Left_Turn: what are you trying to do? and how?.. have you tried runing a live CD?
[16:43] <Left_Turn> yes i at ther install screen everything is fine but when i click install it says...
[16:43] <jdale> hi Left_Turn
[16:43] <jdale> long time no see
[16:43] <Left_Turn> u havent chosen a swap option or some other nonsense... we cant garantee a good install
[16:43] <Left_Turn> it just ticks me of
[16:43] <Left_Turn> hi
[16:44] <holstein> Left_Turn: you are not using the automatic partitioner?
[16:44] <Left_Turn> i wont install after a warning like that
[16:44] <holstein> Left_Turn: what are you trying to do? and how?
[16:44] <Left_Turn> it gave 3 options.. install alongside windows.. i didnt choose this 1
[16:44] <Left_Turn> i chose other.. and gave it a free partition
[16:44] <holstein> Left_Turn: what operating system are you used to? windows?
[16:44] <Left_Turn> yes
[16:44] <Left_Turn> only windows
[16:45] <holstein> Left_Turn: you can install and run virtualbox in windows.. in that virtual environment, you can practice installing linux, and not "break" your machine
[16:45] <Left_Turn> oh lord so invest more hours just to install a virtual box
[16:45] <Left_Turn> no
[16:45] <Left_Turn> :(
[16:45] <holstein> Left_Turn: then, lick the install button, friend
[16:46] <Left_Turn> thanks for your efforts hosltein i really do appreciate it
[16:46] <Left_Turn> but i give up
[16:46] <Left_Turn> 3 days no luck
[16:46] <holstein> Left_Turn: you are being given clear instructions and warnings based on your hardare configuration
[16:46] <holstein> Left_Turn: you have not chosen to do anything
[16:46] <Left_Turn> hm
[16:46] <Left_Turn> u have a point
[16:46] <holstein> Left_Turn: you are free to give up.. you are also free to run the live CD. or practice in virtualbox
[16:47] <holstein> Left_Turn: installing *any* os can be tricky when you have no experience..
[16:47] <Left_Turn> youre right.. i think i need to cool off for now before i make any rash decisions:)
[16:47] <Left_Turn> ill try again
[16:47] <holstein> Left_Turn: i assure you, the installer works.. i would suggest planning for failure, and just do as you did with windows.. and just start installing and trying things
[16:47] <whoever> holstein: leftturn is calld leftturn for a reason... because it's wrong :-)
[16:48] <ledtc> How do i reset the display varible ?
[16:48] <Left_Turn> ok . but 1 thing holstein
[16:48] <monst_> is there a way to just upgrade the kernel on a system? I dont want to do any other package updates
[16:48] <ledtc> Trying to run xhost +localhost::root command and i get unable to open display ":0.0"
[16:48] <Left_Turn> should i choose, "install alongside windows" or "the choice to create my own partition" like ive been doing
[16:49] <whoever> Left_Turn: just install it running of the disk is slow no matter what you do
[16:49] <xubuntu598> holstein , after reboot http://paste.ubuntu.com/5940737/ and after this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5940740/
[16:49] <whoever> Left_Turn: it doesn't mater
[16:49] <Left_Turn> ok
[16:49] <whoever> your tring it out
[16:49] <mudkip908> ledtc: do you actually have an x server running?
[16:49] <whoever> or are you installing to use it
[16:49] <holstein> Left_Turn: if you do "custom/creat my own partition", you will be expected to know how to setup swap
[16:49] <Left_Turn> oh i see
[16:49] <Left_Turn> thats where im failing
[16:50] <holstein> Left_Turn: you dont have to have swap.. but, you will get the warning message, that you can ignore
[16:50] <whoever>  Left_Turn if you plan to use ... well you should just install along side
[16:50] <Left_Turn> ah ok i see.. so go with creating my partition and ignore warnings?
[16:50] <holstein> Left_Turn: what do i suggest? doing as much by default as posible.. just like you would with a windows install read up on custom partitioning
[16:50] <Left_Turn> ok i see
[16:51] <Left_Turn> thanks
[16:51] <ledtc> mudkip908 im trying to run gparted
[16:51] <holstein> Left_Turn: that depends.. that would be like in windows, disabling the paging file.. will windows work? sure.. will you get a warning? sure.. is it an issue? depends
[16:51]  * whoever questions why swp still exists , most do not even have a computer slow enough to require swap 
[16:51] <ledtc> mudkip908 but  i fuck up the display varible :s
[16:51] <mudkip908> whoever: compiling large software
[16:51] <Left_Turn> hm
[16:51] <ledtc> mudkip908 "cnnaot open display: :0.0
[16:51] <xubuntu598> holstein , after reboot http://paste.ubuntu.com/5940737/ and after this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5940740/
[16:51] <mudkip908> ledtc: try: "DISPLAY=:0 gksu gparted"
[16:52] <holstein> Left_Turn: stick to the defaults as much as possible til you get comfortable... remember how long you used windows just as it was before tinkering
[16:52] <wilee-nilee> ledtc, swearing is not allowed here.
[16:52] <Left_Turn> ok holstein
[16:52] <whoever> mudkip908: yes but who has less then a few gigs of ram, few, ubuntu will operate fine on 795MB ram
[16:52] <holstein> xubuntu598: the other proces is still locking it, friend
[16:53] <whoever> even when i had 2gb ram my swp was never used
[16:53] <mudkip908> whoever: i don't use swap either, but it's always good to have an options
[16:54] <holstein> xubuntu598: you have disrupted an installation.. you need to run sudo dpkg --configure -a as the message suggests.. if rebooting is the only way you can resolve the lock issue, then do that, and run the command
[16:54] <xubuntu598> holstein , so how to start that wireless antenna ? or its not possible
[16:54] <ledtc> mudkip908 cannot open display:  :0
[16:54] <holstein> xubuntu598: you have to first fix the errors you have created
[16:54] <mudkip908> ledtc: echo $DISPLAY, tell me what it says
[16:54]  * whoever thinks he should be a ram whore, and unnessisarly upgrade his 4GB ram to 8
[16:54] <holstein> xubuntu598: then, you come here and we talk about what package you need and how to get it.. when your system is stable
[16:54] <ledtc> mudkip908 :0
[16:55] <wilee-nilee> whoever, If one wants to hibernate you need a swap. not everyone has that much ram about 1/2 the world does not have computers or many accommodations we might have
[16:55] <whoever> mudkip908: there doesn't seem to be an option not to set swap up, even if you do manual partions and leave out swap you still get compaints from the installer that you have to have one -
[16:56] <ledtc> mudkip908 i did the export display command before, maybe thats lurking ?
[16:56] <xubuntu598> holstein , so now i heve to reboot again and run sudo dpkg --configure -a ?
[16:56] <whoever> wilee-nilee: i was thinking on the "US installs " since most in the us have a few gigs
[16:56] <mudkip908> ledtc: source /etc/profile
[16:56] <holstein> xubuntu598: you have to resolve the lock issue.. and if that is working for you, do it
[16:57] <whoever> wilee-nilee: i  have always had issuses waking back up from hibertation , so i just don't use it
[16:57] <ledtc> mudkip908 want me to add anything to that command cuz it still cannot open the display
[16:58] <wilee-nilee> whoever, read the channel guidelines please.
[16:58] <mudkip908> ledtc: I have no idea, it should work. Reboot?
[16:58] <ledtc> mudkip908  whats the parameter for rebooting ?
[16:58] <mudkip908> ledtc: "reboot"
[16:59] <whoever> wilee-nilee: any part you think i should pay attention to
[16:59] <ledtc> mudkip908 or more exacly, how do i make text come side by side not just scroll to the end, isnt it -n ?
[16:59] <mudkip908> ledtc: what do you mean?
[16:59] <varunendra> xubuntu984, as a quick fix for the wireless, you can manually blacklist the wl driver, and remove "b43" from blacklist (added automatically by the wl driver)
[16:59] <varunendra> xubuntu598, ^^
[17:00] <ledtc> mudkip908 when i typ like --help its just a wall of text how to i split it so i can read it ?
[17:00] <mudkip908> ledtc: <command> | less
[17:00] <whoever>  /t
[17:00] <mudkip908> ledtc: or use Ctrl+PageUp/PageDown to scroll you terminal
[17:01] <mudkip908> Shift*
[17:01] <monst_> my ubuntu box running kernel 3.2.0-29-generic
[17:01] <monst_> keeps crashing
[17:02] <holstein> monst_: try an earlier kernel from the grub menu
[17:02] <monst_> memtest passes
[17:02] <ledtc> mudkip908 well i sitll gott the "cannot open display" but now the varible is empty
[17:02] <monst_> thanks holstein
[17:02] <mudkip908> ledtc: do other programs work?
[17:02] <geri> hi what is sda2  ...extended? http://codepaste.net/ven63s
[17:03] <ledtc> mudkip908 gparted is the first program i try
[17:03] <daftykins> geri: it simply means sda5 is a logical drive within the extended partition
[17:03] <alessio> Ciao ragas
[17:03] <geri> daftykins: i can store data on sda1 and sda2?
[17:03] <daftykins> *sda1 and sda5
[17:04] <daftykins> geri: you have a root and a swap by the looks
[17:05] <Left_Turn> hey holstein ive done some research and have 3 more questions
[17:05] <geri> swap is on sda5
[17:05] <Left_Turn> i have 4gb ram.. ive allocated 12GB space. 1) what should be the size of my logical partition for the swap area?? 2) what should be the size of my logical partition for the root of the operating system??
[17:05] <daftykins> geri: yes... there are only two partitions on your disk.
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> geri, sda1 is the only data sda2 is the extended and sda5 is the swap on your link.
[17:06] <daftykins> geri: this may help: http://linux.about.com/cs/linux101/g/Extended_partit.htm
[17:06] <geri> wilee-nilee: only data?
[17:06] <ledtc> Anyone els know how to get gparted to acess the display ?
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> geri, THe OS right?
[17:06] <holstein> Left_Turn: again, that depends.. and   i would do automatic.. for 4gb's of ram, i would just to a gig or 2 of swap, personally
[17:06] <mudkip908> ledtc: do other programs work?
[17:06] <xubuntu663> holstein , this is after restart http://paste.ubuntu.com/5940782/
[17:06] <ledtc> mudkip908 no, this is the first on i try
[17:06] <Left_Turn> ok ill do 1
[17:06] <mudkip908> ledtc: try another one
[17:06] <Left_Turn> could i do 1500?
[17:06] <Left_Turn> 1.5
[17:07] <ledtc> mudkip908 like what ?
[17:07] <geri> which sda can i use now to store data?
[17:07] <holstein> Left_Turn: you can do literaly what you want..
[17:07] <mudkip908> ledtc: anything. nautilus, gcalctool...
[17:07] <holstein> Left_Turn: why not do the automatic partitioning?
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> geri, in the OS
[17:07] <Left_Turn> oh great,, thanks holstein.. i think im ready now
[17:07] <Left_Turn> thats alongside right?
[17:07] <Left_Turn> i can do that
[17:07] <geri> so *sda1?
[17:08] <Left_Turn> alongside windows option i mean
[17:08] <holstein> Left_Turn: depends, again, if you want it "alongside" something
[17:08] <Left_Turn> holstein i mean is that the aitomatic option? they dont actually give an option saying automatic
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> geri, Yes a rather small HD or flash only 21.5 gigs
[17:08] <holstein> Left_Turn: if you have already claimed some freespace, then it should work fine.. i would want to have my data backedup, and know how to recover the windows MBR
[17:09] <geri> wilee-nilee: a vm!
[17:09] <Left_Turn> oh i see
[17:09] <whoever> anyone here using html5 instead of flash to play videos
[17:09] <wilee-nilee> geri, alright a vm. ;)
[17:09] <xubuntu663> holstein , this is after restart http://paste.ubuntu.com/5940782/
[17:10] <whoever> i am having trouble getting it to work, everytime i visit a site with a vid  i get an error that i need flash player
[17:14] <Hansa> Hi
[17:14] <ledtc> mudkip908 no, nautilus cannot open display eather
[17:15] <d4m> Seeing bad signature errors on ubuntu repos on ec2 and s3, any maintainers here?
[17:15] <ledtc> mudkip908 im on the local terminal if that changes anything ?
[17:15] <Hansa> Linux Deepin is Good?
[17:16] <OerHeks> d4m no, try #ec2 here on freenode ?
[17:16] <d4m> OerHeks: will do
[17:17] <OerHeks> Hansa what is Linux Deepin?
[17:17] <Pici> d4m: #ubuntu-server might be helpful as well.
[17:17] <d4m> Pici: ty
[17:17] <Muuuh> Hi
[17:17] <Merle_Fergus> Hello everyone, Merle_Fergushere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[17:17] <daftykins> Hansa: there is no support, or talk of non-Ubuntu in here. even distros based on Ubuntu are not discussed
[17:17] <Hansa> OerHeks it's a linux os
[17:18] <OerHeks> Hansa, this channel is ubuntu support.
[17:18] <Muuuh> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server 12.0.4.2 on an older machine, and it keeps erroring when installing the kernel (as part of the base install). How can I verify which kernel is appropriate for my machine ?
[17:18] <Hansa> OerHeks Ah..
[17:19] <Hansa> Sorry.. any mistakes of me..
[17:19] <Hansa> I'm new to ubuntu.. OerHeks
[17:19] <daftykins> Muuuh: what's the processor in the old system?
[17:19] <OerHeks> Hansa, try #ubuntu-offtopic or #linux
[17:20] <Muuuh> daftykins: AMD Athlon XP 1000
[17:20] <Hansa> OerHeks thanks..
[17:20] <daftykins> Muuuh: so i assume you've got the correct 32-bit ISO since you got as far as installing
[17:20] <Muuuh> daftykins: yes :-)
[17:21] <Muuuh> ubuntu-12.04.2-server-i386.iso
[17:21] <daftykins> Muuuh: what errors do you get exactly?
[17:21] <Muuuh> funny thing is I had Ubuntu Server on this machine before
[17:21] <daftykins> but older like 10.04 ?
[17:21] <OerHeks> Muuuh, sounds like that AMD Athlon XP 1000 is i686 ?
[17:21] <Muuuh> I don't recall what it had started as, but I kept it upgraded with apt-get
[17:22] <debfan> is there an 'offtopic channel?
[17:22] <Muuuh> error is "Unable to install the selected kernel"
[17:22] <daftykins> OerHeks: i'd imagine it's tripping up on trying to put a generic-pae kernel on perhaps
[17:22] <daftykins> debfan: #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:22] <daftykins> Muuuh: what does it do from there?
[17:22] <daftykins> OerHeks: my only idea would be chroot and pull down a vanilla package kernel to put on, any thoughts on a better way?
[17:22] <Muuuh> the installer brings me back to the main setup menu
[17:23] <daftykins> hmm
[17:23] <daftykins> that's a toughie
[17:23] <Muuuh> if I try again it will error again at the same place
[17:23] <Muuuh> Could it simply be that it's trying to get a "newer" kernel than the one associated with the release ?
[17:24] <OerHeks> daftykins, yes, might work
[17:24] <Muuuh> I think it's trying to get the kernel from net
[17:24] <daftykins> Muuuh: does it show you the full name of the kernel it's trying to put on?
[17:24] <kumarat9pm> hi.. I am having issue with my skype
[17:25] <daftykins> Muuuh: if it's got the option to pull down new packages and update while installing, you could just pull the network connection and avoid doing that.
[17:25] <Muuuh> daftykins: I can't recall the exact name, but I did try different ones... let me try again and I'll report back
[17:25] <kumarat9pm> I am unable to login to skype with one of my account..
[17:25] <debfan> daftykins: thanks
[17:25] <kumarat9pm> any troubleshooting stuff?
[17:25] <Muuuh> ahhh... good idea... turn net off
[17:25] <ledtc> what do i set the Display varible to if i want to run a program from the local terminal ?
[17:26] <daftykins> ledtc: why are you trying to run GUI apps from a terminal?
[17:26] <ledtc> daftykins gparted
[17:26] <daftykins> ledtc: read my question again
[17:27] <pl2> ok guys, so I was able to stay logged in long enough to download all the packages to update, but there are "grave" bugs. Any reason why I should or shouldn't install those packages? Here's the output http://pastebin.com/3UDbig3i any help is greatly appreciated!
[17:27] <ledtc> daftykins dont understand you ? gksu gparted    returns error  ?
[17:27] <daftykins> ledtc: why are you running a graphical program from a terminal?
[17:28] <geri> wilee-nilee: i want to create an empty partition from sda1 or sda2!
[17:28] <ledtc> daftykins  its ubuntu server it only haves terminal :s ?
[17:28] <daftykins> ledtc: so why are you trying to run a graphical application? :S
[17:28] <ledtc> daftykins  cuz i need to gparted on my harddrive <.<!
[17:29] <wilee-nilee> geri, What is in sda1, sda2 is a container for sda5?
[17:29] <daftykins> ledtc: if you're wanting to partition, use a CLI partition editor
[17:29] <ledtc> daftykins  gonna format it  ?
[17:30] <Marlene> what is happen to syantex error in typing command
[17:30] <daftykins> ledtc: you want to wipe a whole disk?
[17:30] <ledtc> its a new disk its has to be made to fit first
[17:30] <ledtc> and then im gonna mount it
[17:30] <john_doe_jr> how do I make sure that nfs is running?
[17:31] <wilee-nilee> geri, I have never used vm, just virtualbox, if you change sda1 which I assume is the OS will you have access to it, it must need to be able to boot.
[17:31] <pl2> EFF IT WE'LL DO IT LIVE. I just hit 'Y' If it works, yay, if not i'll just do a clean install.
[17:31] <geri> wilee-nilee: sda1 is the os
[17:31] <ledtc> john_doe_jr try lsblk maybe it says filesystem aswell
[17:31] <geri> wilee-nilee: its 40% full now...how can i create 1
[17:31] <ikonia> pl2: tone it down please.
[17:32] <ikonia> pl2: it's not called for or welcome
[17:32] <geri> wilee-nilee: its 40% full now...how can i create 1 GB partion from it?
[17:32] <ledtc> daftykins well its new so i need to wipe before i can use it
[17:32] <ledtc> daftykins and then im gonna mount it
[17:32] <pl2> ikonia, I did tone it down, as you can tell.
[17:32] <kenshiro> Hi, will Ubuntu Touch be stable and available for Nexus 4 in October ? Will it have a whatsapp client?
[17:33] <ikonia> pl2: I can also tell what it meant - please tone it down further
[17:33] <daftykins> ledtc: ok, just use 'parted'
[17:33] <wilee-nilee> geri, in virtualbox you can boot a live cd and shrink partitions and add more using gparted, I "assume" vm is the same, assume is a key word here.
[17:33] <ledtc> daftykins says im not super user
[17:33] <daftykins> ledtc: you have to run it with sudo
[17:34] <ledtc> daftykins did it gave me invaldig token
[17:34] <ohnoididitagain> Hello :) I would like to ask you guys, if setting swap partition is gonna somehow improve my Ubuntu experience? I have 4GB currently, and no swap partition set up at the moment. I've been using Ubuntu and it works okay, so I just wonder if I should do it or not.
[17:35] <auronandace> !touch | kenshiro
[17:35] <ironfoot495> Hello I have a problem with my password when connecting to yahoo mail can I please get some help?
[17:35] <wilee-nilee> geri, You might want to get help from a person experienced with vm is all here.
[17:35] <daftykins> ledtc: i don't know what you mean. what's the error?
[17:35] <kenshiro> auronandace ubottu thank you :-)
[17:35] <daftykins> ironfoot495: i think you might be better off with support from yahoo from what your question suggests
[17:36] <ledtc> daftykins dont know it just says invalid token
[17:36] <Muuuh> daftykins: well, offline install gave me the same error... the kernel selected by default is "linux-generic-lts-quantal"... I'm now looking at the error "popup", and it's offering me to Continue
[17:36] <ledtc> daftykins oki, now it started
[17:36] <ironfoot495> daftykins: THANKS
[17:36] <geri> wilee-nilee: ok created it in the vmware player
[17:37] <daftykins> Muuuh: ah, it's referring to it by name and not version then. what method did you use to try installing other versions?
[17:38] <geri> wilee-nilee: Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table ?
[17:38] <zykotick9> !swap | ohnoididitagain
[17:38] <Muuuh> daftykins: when I select "Continue", it brings me back to the main setup page, and if I try "Install base system" again, at some point it asks me to select which kernel out of 4
[17:39] <daftykins> Muuuh: oh right - what are those 4?
[17:39] <Muuuh> daftykins: let me check.. I'll have to redo the steps :-)
[17:39] <daftykins> np :)
[17:42] <Marlene> daftykins  : what is happen to syantex error in typing command
[17:42] <wilee-nilee> geri, There is a #vmware channel if that helps
[17:42] <geri> ok
[17:43] <daftykins> Marlene: i'm sorry i don't understand your question
[17:43] <sarkyniin> Hey
[17:43] <sarkyniin> Anyone has the windows 7 version of Paint? I want to use it through wine
[17:43] <sarkyniin> or at least, the XP version...
[17:43] <wilee-nilee> geri, For me without more details and a knowledge of vmware I'm not really your best help. ;)
[17:44] <daftykins> sarkyniin: pretty sure just getting the .exe won't help you
[17:44] <Muuuh> daftykins: Ok, it offers me "linux-generic-lts-quantal", "lunux-image-generic-lts-quantal", "linux-image-3.5.0-23-generic" and "none"... of the 4 choices, I have tried 1 and 3 so far
[17:45] <Muuuh> might as well try 2 :-)
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> sarkyniin, Have you used wine before, I have used playonlinux a little, the wine site has info on apps that they know run.
[17:45] <Marlene> daftykins  : if you tybe in CLI by mistake " pioc " i mean pico there command answer me and say did you mean pico from package  ...
[17:45] <mudkip908> http://appdb.winehq.org
[17:46] <sarkyniin> wilee-nilee, I already used wine a few times (mainly for small games), I'm going to check winehq.
[17:46] <daftykins> Marlene: yeah, so what's your question?
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> sarkyniin, Sure, I found with playonlinux a wine gui really that one could run stuff not listed same with wine.
[17:47] <Muuuh> shit... it gives me the same error... so, no matter what available kernel I select, it gives me the same error...
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> !language | Muuuh
[17:47] <Muuuh> ooopsie
[17:48] <wilee-nilee> lol no biggie
[17:48] <sarkyniin> wilee-nilee, apparently it works fine on regular wine anyway, I'm going to try with playonlinux.
[17:48] <daftykins> Muuuh: :( you could try installing 10.04.3 server 32-bit and perform an upgrade
[17:48] <Muuuh> I'm going to try to install that ISO as a VM under VMWare Workstation to see...
[17:48] <sarkyniin> Anyone knows where the paint binary is located?
[17:48] <Marlene> daftykins : what is the programme that say the correct command if i type it by mistake
[17:48] <wilee-nilee> sarkyniin, That seemed easiest for me, I dualboot I was just messing around to learn.
[17:48] <daftykins> Muuuh: or you could try chroot'ing into what you've installed already and try to get a kernel on there separately
[17:49] <daftykins> Marlene: ah, no idea sorry.
[17:49] <napsc> How does one apply a patch?....https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-log/+bug/1045602
[17:49] <Frankenstine> can any one tell me how to open trash through terminal
[17:49] <Marlene> this feature is exit in ubuntu 13 but iam unsig ubuntu 12
[17:50] <Muuuh> daftykins: hmmm... never done that... I guess the idea is to change the root of the system so it points to the HDD instead of the CD, and then try to apt-get a kernel ?
[17:50] <daftykins> Muuuh: yep!
[17:50] <mudkip908> sarkyniin: Windows/SysWOW64/mspaint.exe for the 32bit one, WINDOWS/system32/mspaint.exe for 64bit
[17:50] <daftykins> Muuuh: basically boot the CD again and choose 'rescue a broken system'
[17:51] <Muuuh> ahhh
[17:51] <sarkyniin> mudkip908: thanks!
[17:51] <sarkyniin> I'll try it now
[17:51] <mudkip908> sarkyniin: it doesnt work: unimplemented function ntdll.dll.WinSqmStartSession
[17:51] <sarkyniin> ...
[17:51] <sarkyniin> Oh
[17:53] <sarkyniin> Yeah
[17:53] <sarkyniin> I get the same error
[17:53] <sarkyniin> ;_;
[17:54] <geri> wilee-nilee: is the sdb correclty set in the partition table? http://codepaste.net/b4mem9
[17:54] <geri> is it a logical partition?
[17:54] <mudkip908> sarkyniin: setting ntdll.dll to native doesn't work either
[17:54] <daftykins> Muuuh: although a desktop disc is easier for fiddling with there :(
[17:54] <sarkyniin> mudkip908: What's the error, actually?
[17:55] <sarkyniin> Some missing functions in wine...?
[17:55] <mudkip908> sarkyniin: yeah
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> geri, sdb needs a partition, it is just an unallocated space as of now, you may need to make a partition table to add a partition.
[17:57] <geri> wilee-nilee: with logical partition?
[17:58] <Muuuh> daftykins: well, the ISO installed without a hickup as a VM
[17:58] <Muuuh> still trying to understand how to rescue the faulty install
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> geri, A logical goes in a extended, and in general if this was a single HD only one extended is allowed in a vm I have no idea. a primary partition is what you would put there I believe, a ext4 or fat32 or ntfs depending on what you want.
[17:59] <mudkip908> sarkyniin: the one from windows 98 works though
[17:59] <ledtc> is openssh-server the thing to use ? y/n
[17:59] <daftykins> Muuuh: i managed to get a terminal from booting into rescue mode with the server 12.10 ISO, although it's not too great. i'd be tempted to download and boot a desktop version to chroot with
[17:59] <daftykins> !chroot
[17:59] <daftykins> Muuuh: ^ that should help
[17:59] <Frankenstine> can anyone tell me how to open trash through terminal
[18:00] <julianb> Hi. I've had a problem with a VM running on my system, and for some reason it attempted to remove my ubuntu install. The install itself is fine, since I'm writing from it atm, but is there some way to force reinstall of all packages?
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> Frankenstine, YOU trying to open the root trash?
[18:00] <sarkyniin> mudkip908: I'll just use the XP one
[18:00] <sarkyniin> I think it works
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> !details | frankenstein
[18:00] <mudkip908> sarkyniin: appdb says it does
[18:01] <sarkyniin> Too bad paint is really the only program on Linux that I can really use for small pixel art
[18:01] <OerHeks> !paint
[18:01] <OerHeks> !info paint
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> sarkyniin, gimp has a lot of options but a bit harder to use.
[18:01] <sarkyniin> Gimp is way too overcomplicated, other "small" programs aren't really that good
[18:01] <mudkip908> there's also Pinta
[18:02] <OerHeks> !find paint
[18:02] <sarkyniin> iirc I tried pinta
[18:02] <sarkyniin> Is there the paint recolor right click function on any of these?
[18:02] <sarkyniin> is it possible to copypaste simply on any of these?
[18:02] <honestly> since nobody in #linaro seems to be able to help me, is there anyone here who knows what the "could not find a distribution template" error in add-apt-repository is all about and can help me fix my config?
[18:02] <mudkip908> sarkyniin: you mean right clicking paints a different color?
[18:02] <sarkyniin> no
[18:02] <geri> wilee-nilee: ext4
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> sarkyniin, If you have a windows license run it in a virtual or dualboot wine is not really a good substitute in my opinion.
[18:03] <sarkyniin> having a color on the left panel and another color on the right panel and pressing right click with the eraser
[18:03] <sarkyniin> changes the color of that panel only
[18:03] <sarkyniin> to the other one
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> geri, cool, sound good.
[18:03] <sarkyniin> wilee-nilee: I don't have a windows license
[18:03] <sarkyniin> my laptop came with windows 7
[18:04] <sarkyniin> so iunno if I can get my license
[18:04] <mudkip908> sarkyniin: in pinta right clicking with the eraser acts like its a paintbrush
[18:04] <sarkyniin> :/
[18:04] <geri> wilee-nilee: WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 22: Invalid argument.
[18:04] <mudkip908> sarkyniin: flip it over? mine has a sticker on it for windows 7
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> sarkyniin, Ah, you have the W7 saved in some way? Or can you get the oem reinstall set from the manufacturer?
[18:04] <mudkip908> i mean vista
[18:04] <McDeffice> How install kvirc with apt-get in the instable version ?
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> geri, How are you doing this in a terminal?
[18:05] <sarkyniin> wilee-nilee: I'm dual-booting
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> sarkyniin, Ah, cool, well at the least you have windows to use if needed.
[18:05] <sarkyniin> mudkip908: there's a "product key", is it that?
[18:06] <geri> wilee-nilee: http://codepaste.net/vikt8s
[18:06] <mudkip908> sarkyniin: iirc all windows 7 laptops by one manufacturer have the same key
[18:06] <McDeffice> How install kvirc with apt-get in the instable version ? Or install with svn version after apt-get install normal ?
[18:06] <sarkyniin> mudkip908: my laptop is a toshiba one
[18:06] <mudkip908> sarkyniin: which edition of windows 7 do you have?
[18:06] <OerHeks> sarkyniin, this is not windows how-to-retrieve-my-productkey-support, join ##windows for that
[18:06] <mynameisdeleted> so.. simplified ubuntu server edition that I'd customize to run 1 web page in a virtualmachine
[18:06] <wilee-nilee> sarkyniin, I started on open source, and got windows from a computer purchase, and bought student upgrades, I'm talking from W8 as we speak, lol.
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> geri, Looks like you have a partition now sdb1.
[18:08] <geri> why sdb1? there is still sdb??
[18:08] <geri> wilee-nilee: someth is wrong?
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> geri, sdb would be the same as an empty HD, and if you were loading a bootloader the mbr, you need a number with sdb to have a partition.
[18:08] <mynameisdeleted> guess ubuntu server edition and add the software I need?
[18:09] <geri> wilee-nilee: is there somth wrong now?
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> geri, YOu will have to tell me, it looks fine from here, when you make a ext4 without a OS you have to give it permissions to use I believe, I have not done that much, I have all externals that have ntfs for sharing to store data, not partitions on my HD.
[18:10] <mynameisdeleted> why does ubuntu make it harder to find torrent versions of each download?
[18:11] <geri> wilee-nilee: i need to mount sdb or sdb now? and add to fstab?
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> mynameisdeleted, That makes no sense.
[18:11] <geri> sdb or sdb1
[18:11] <mynameisdeleted> all downloads shouolld offer torrent next to the first download link and give a prize to the peer that uploads the most on donation
[18:11] <holstein> mynameisdeleted: what is the question? where is the torrent link for what are you looking for
[18:11] <geri> wilee-nilee: i need to mount sdb or sdb1 now? and add sdb or sdb1 to fstab?
[18:11] <mynameisdeleted> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[18:11] <mynameisdeleted> I got it... I found the regular download was goign to take 8 hours
[18:11] <bazhang> !brainstorm | mynameisdeleted
[18:11] <mynameisdeleted> torrent completed in 1 min
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> geri, Not sure you are in a vm and I'm mot up on making that sdb1 permissions correct and with fstab I jut look it up when needed, I never have automounts there other than the OS and swap.
[18:12] <frankenstein> ubottu, sorry wrong Frankenstine
[18:12] <frankenstein> Forgive me all knowing A.I.
[18:13] <Frankenstine> yep @<wilee-nilee>
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> that's frank n stein lol
[18:14] <Frankenstine> just tell me how to do that!
[18:14] <wilee-nilee> Frankenstine, Do what?
[18:15] <Ampelbein> bazhang: Ubuntu brainstorm is discontinued, see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2013-May/001038.html
[18:16] <Frankenstine> how to open trash through terminal??
[18:17] <Ampelbein> !info trash-cli | Frankenstine
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> Frankenstine, this the root trash? is this a server?
[18:17] <Left_Turn> hey holstein im all sorted thanks so much for your help:)
[18:18] <zenpac> Is it better to install Eclipse locally to get the latest version or use some sort of PPA? (12.04)....
[18:18] <OerHeks> Frankenstine, cd /home/$USER/.local/share/Trash
[18:18] <holstein> Left_Turn: sure.. enjoy!, and feel free to ask for help from the volunteers here :)
[18:19] <Left_Turn> holstein: i will do:) when i go on windows is there a better linux based irc client thsn mirc?
[18:19] <Left_Turn> on ubuntu i mean
[18:19] <daftykins> xchat might be your friend
[18:20] <Left_Turn> ok ill try that:)
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> Left_Turn, I use hexchat a copy of xchat in ubuntu and windows.
[18:20] <Frankenstine> no its my pc @<wilee-nilee>
[18:20] <ubuntivity> The command line weechat is pretty nice IRC client
[18:20] <Left_Turn> ok thanks guys... i like the sounds of weechat
[18:20] <Left_Turn> i want anything to do with a command line
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> Frankenstine, Try what OerHeks's gave you 'cd /home/$USER/.local/share/Trash'
[18:21] <holstein> Left_Turn: i stared with weechat
[18:21] <zenpac> Eclipse 3.7 vs 4.3... seems like a large jump
[18:21] <mynameisdeleted> so.. ubuntu kickstart with raid + lvm?
[18:21] <Left_Turn> oh.. what do u use now?
[18:21] <holstein> Left_Turn: irssi.. but weechat is nice
[18:22] <Left_Turn> ah i see... which is better for a noob? i could try irssi also:)
[18:22] <Frankenstine> thank you <OerHeks> it worked
[18:23] <holstein> Left_Turn: i would say, if you want "better" for a new user, again, use what is default.. the GUI chat client included, or try xchat
[18:23] <Left_Turn> oh ok
[18:23] <holstein> Left_Turn: i would argue neither are "noob-friendly", though, i went with weechat because it autoconnected to freenode before in know how to manually connect
[18:23] <Left_Turn> default it is:)
[18:23] <Left_Turn> oh i see
[18:24] <holstein> Left_Turn: you can totally handle either one though.. if you want the push to the command-line.. which is what i wanted
[18:24] <Left_Turn> ah i see... ok ill have a look at the 2 of them:)
[18:25] <Frankenstine> can you tell me what .local is @<OerHeks>
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> !tab | frankenstein
[18:25] <auronandace> frankenstein: a hidden directory in your home folder
[18:25] <frankenstein> wrong Frankenstine folks :)
[18:26] <auronandace> sorry
[18:27]  * wilee-nilee thinks this is the monster using the DR's name,lol
[18:27] <daftykins> just how many abominations are walking around in here 0o
[18:29] <ggabriel96> hey guys
[18:30] <ggabriel96> if i installed my nvidia driver with the additional drivers and i want to revert it to the nouveau, i simply click the nouveau option and then revert? or apply changes? what's the difference?
[18:31] <OerHeks> Frankenstine, the . before a foldername means hidden
[18:32] <OerHeks> Frankenstine, "ls" will give a list of files and folders, "ls -a" shows hidden files/folders also.
[18:32] <blackjid> Hi!, Anyone knows how to install php 5.4 on ubuntu precise 12.04
[18:33] <OerHeks> blackjid, compile it yourself or find a PPA, but we do not support PPA's
[18:33] <peyam> Hi
[18:33] <ggabriel96> hey OerHeks, if i installed my nvidia driver with the additional drivers and i want to revert it to the nouveau, i simply click the nouveau option and then revert? or apply changes? what's the difference?
[18:34] <peyam> Is it possible to span the taskbar between dualscreen? I want just one date & time in the screens
[18:34] <OerHeks> ggabriel96, not sure what the diff is, i guess revert first?
[18:35] <ggabriel96> hmm
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> peyam, Both yes, span no.
[18:35] <peyam> wilee-nilee, no span?
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> not that I know of
[18:35] <ggabriel96> OerHeks, and a sudo apt-get purge nvidia* would restore nouveau after restarting the system?
[18:35] <peyam> wilee-nilee, bad!!!!
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> it doesn't make sense for a number of reasons
[18:36] <peyam> wilee-nilee, talking to me?
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> yes
[18:36] <peyam> why not?
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> peyam, think about it, a many number of screen sizes, and is this something anyone besides you wants?
[18:37] <peyam> wilee-nilee, it is possible with xfce
[18:38] <OerHeks> ggabriel96, no, i think you need to reconfigure lightdm after removal.
[18:38] <tones> can android be run on ubuntu?
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> peyam, Col maybe possible here I said "not that I know of" This does not mean it is not possible.
[18:38] <mustmodify> How can I get grep to show the files in a different color? I find the b&w results hard to parse.
[18:38] <ggabriel96> OerHeks, hmm so it's better through the additional drivers
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> Cool*
[18:38] <blackjid> Grus I found this https://launchpad.net/~nathan-renniewaldock/+archive/ppa
[18:38] <peyam> wilee-nilee, mmm
[18:38] <blackjid> Grus I'll give it a try..
[18:39] <OerHeks> ggabriel96, yes, although i never removed nvidia before
[18:39] <daftykins> tones: as in the development tester? probably
[18:39] <Grus> blackjid, who advise you to use that? It's not a good idea to install any-ole PPA to your system.
[18:39] <ggabriel96> OerHeks, it's because I'm finding my performance lower than normal, so I'll test it out with nouveau and then with another nvidia driver version
[18:39] <blackjid> Grus oh!, I just found it in google...
[18:39] <tones> http://www.ehow.com/how_8680227_run-android-ubuntu.html  daftykins, no like using this to run android apps
[18:40] <blochchain> does 12.04 LTS contain the user agreement that allows canonical to share your data?
[18:40] <daftykins> tones: why?
[18:40] <OerHeks> blochchain, no
[18:41] <ggabriel96> imma reboot here
[18:41] <tones> daftykins, some phone apps are web capable
[18:41] <ggabriel96> brb
[18:41] <tones> are not
[18:41] <daftykins> tones: and yeah that guides talking about using the development emulator, it'd be quite painfully slow
[18:41] <peyam> wilee-nilee, you running unity on your dist?
[18:41] <tones> looking for a linux bluestacks alternative
[18:42] <peyam> ngn som kör ubuntu på dual screen?
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> peyam, No, the gnome shell
[18:44] <Dry_Lips> Hi guys, can you recommend a XML viewer (or something like that) that can be used to browse and read a XML dump of the wikipedia database?
[18:45] <peyam> wilee-nilee, with dual screen?
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> peyam, Nope.
[18:45] <peyam> u should wilee-nilee
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> peyam, Why?
[18:46] <peyam> wilee-nilee, it is comfortable
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> peyam, really, its as if you think I really care. ;)
[18:46] <bazhang> !ot | peyam
[18:46] <peyam> wilee-nilee, you shoud
[18:47] <bazhang> peyam, thats enough
[18:47] <peyam> hm
[18:47] <ripplebit> how do I put an ISO image onto by USB? (also format it)
[18:48] <bazhang> ripplebit, unetbootin
[18:48] <OerHeks> ripplebit, or the standard usb-creator tool in ubuntu
[18:48] <peyam> !unetbootin
[18:49] <ripplebit> It says there are no usb devices recognized, despite the fact one is plugged in. Something to do with mounting, which I'm not sure how to do
[18:51] <ripplebit> Unetbootin can't find my usb device
[18:53] <OerHeks> ripplebit, the usb must be unmounted first, to format in fat32 and/or to put an iso on it.
[18:53] <pet2001> ripplebit: Try identifying the USB-Stick with cat /proc/partitions
[18:53] <userabc__> does anyone know where I find details on how to configure ubuntu to stretch a single desktop across multiple monitors?
[18:54] <ripplebit> pet2001:right is it sdb or sdb1?
[18:54] <ripplebit> sdb is the usb
[18:54] <ripplebit> sdb1 is a partition
[18:54] <ripplebit> so just do unmount sdb?
[18:54] <pet2001> ripplebit: Use sudo dd bs=4M if=mycd.iso of=/dev/sdb (if your USB is sdb)
[18:55] <pet2001> ripplebit: Yes, if your USB is mounted, unmount first
[18:55] <ripplebit> pet2001: "unmount sdb" isn't working
[18:56] <pet2001> ripplebit: Look where it's mounted with "mount"
[18:57] <pet2001> ripplebit: Then unmount with "unmount /media/whatever"
[18:57] <subman> I just installed xubuntu on my laptop but upon starting it up I get:  Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed.  Rebooting just comes up with the same error.  Any ideas?
[19:01] <ledtc> i keep getting session is down when trying to connect to my SFTP ?
[19:04] <mudkip908> ledtc: maybe it's down. what FTP server are you using?
[19:04] <mudkip908> ledtc: (down as in not running)
[19:04] <ledtc> mudkip908 openssh
[19:05] <mudkip908> ledtc: try this: /etc/init.d/ftpd restart
[19:05] <nausium> Hey I was wondering, for a personal laptop doing minimal dev stuff is there any decent reason to go with the LTS version over the newer one?
[19:05] <mudkip908> ledtc: or service restart ftpd
[19:06] <mudkip908> nausium: not really. unless you want 5 years of updates
[19:06] <ripplebit> pet2001: right i've unmounted by when I run that command, I get a blank return
[19:06] <nausium> Ill go with the newer setup then
[19:06] <ripplebit> and for some reason unetbootin isn't recognizing it still
[19:06] <otak> nausium: if the kernel works why change it?
[19:07] <pet2001> ripplebit: Were you running that "dd" command?
[19:08] <nausium> otak I have no opinion leaning one way or another, I wondering though if the new version adds any particularly cool stuff or if it has any obnoxious bugs
[19:08] <pet2001> ripplebit: Should take some seconds writing to your USB stick, than finishes without further message.
[19:08] <Vivekananda> guys I have a question. I am new to this so please be kind. I have been using ubuntu for quite a bit but now I have created a simple webapp on ubuntu. now I want to install a guest system on win7 host
[19:09] <ripplebit> yeah used dd. I'll try waiting a bit
[19:09] <Vivekananda> should I choose the ubuntu server or the regular ubuntu desktop?
[19:09] <holstein> Vivekananda: install virtualbox.. install guest OS you choose
[19:09] <Vivekananda> holstein: thanks but for the guest do I choose ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop ?
[19:09] <holstein> Vivekananda: which ever meets your needs
[19:10] <Vivekananda> holsteing I wanted it to be less laggy
[19:10] <holstein> Vivekananda: if you need no GUI, no need to install one.. ubuntuserver *is* ubuntu
[19:10] <Vivekananda> but I have only 4 gb of ram
[19:10] <Vivekananda> holstein: great so I can install server and then if I need a gui I can get fluxbox or lubuntu or something right ?
[19:10] <holstein> Vivekananda: the "lag" will likely be due to the hardware and virtualization and host/guest specs.. not server vs desktop so much
[19:11] <dougiel> is there a tool that any idiot (me) can use to develop a website? Just looking for suggestions to google for linux app
[19:11] <holstein> though, the server can be lighter on resources, for certain tasks,a nd more appropriate
[19:11] <Vivekananda> holstein: okay then ubuntu desktop would be fine I guess.
[19:11] <nausium> actually it looks like the new version deals with UEFI stuff better
[19:11] <holstein> Vivekananda: not "fine".. ubuntu desktop *is* ubuntu server.. you install what you want there
[19:11] <ripplebit> dougiel: what sort of website do you want?
[19:11] <holstein> Vivekananda: if you want/need a desktop environment
[19:11] <Vivekananda> holstein: one other thing. My app's requires me to print to the printer directly ( some data ) . how do I do this ?
[19:12] <ledtc> mudkip908 i found it its the h% thing messing with my settings
[19:12] <holstein> Vivekananda: i have no idea what app you are referencing. printing is quite trivial in the main ubuntu and other desktop versions
[19:12] <dougiel> ripplebit, something to host my resume and some of my favorite links - very basic.
[19:12] <ledtc> mudkip908 is there an varible for username i use in the pathway ?
[19:12] <Vivekananda> holstein: got it . I meant that ubuntu desktop would then be okay to install , seeing that it wont affect the speed of transactions
[19:12] <dougiel> ripplebit, I installed apache to host on my 12.04 box
[19:12] <holstein> dougiel: i would ask in an appropriate channel.. but it sounds lik eyou are asking about hosting as well.. you can use a fre service such as blogger.. or weebly
[19:12] <mudkip908> ledtc: what do you mean?
[19:12] <otak> nausium: if you need very new versions of packages then testing is good, otherwise it's not necesary to update the whole system
[19:13] <ripplebit> dougiel: I'd go with wordpress. Easy to use and should be able to accommodate all your needs
[19:13] <holstein> Vivekananda: it is ok if thats what you need/want..
[19:13] <Captain_Proton_> I have a computer I play starcraft 2 on and a little steam. right now it running windows 8 with a Radeon HD 7570. I do have a nvidia 9800 GT 1gb ram on a spare system. My plan is to replace win8 with ubuntu, my qeustion is should I replace the ati card with nvidia or is the drive for ATi good enuff now?
[19:13] <dougiel> ripplebit, thanks for the info :)
[19:13] <Vivekananda> holstein: I want to start with writing a simple - print hello world script on th guest system ( ubuntu) and on executing I want it to directly print the thing and not open a print dialogue box
[19:13] <holstein> dougiel: you can make a wordpress freee at wordpress dot come and check it out
[19:13] <daftykins> Captain_Proton_: there might be some benchmarks on phoronix.com
[19:13] <ledtc> mudkip908 im chrooting the users but i wanna chroot them in there own homefolder, not the folder where the homefolder is, there for i must have a varible like $username to put at the of the path
[19:13] <holstein> Vivekananda: i would ask in a programming channel
[19:14] <mudkip908> ledtc: you want $USER :)
[19:14] <dougiel> holstein, thanks :) willdo
[19:14] <ggabriel96> guys
[19:14] <Vivekananda> holstein: I am headed there. Thanks. But just wanted to know if there is something ubuntu specific I need to know in order to achieve this cross guest-host direct printing
[19:14] <ggabriel96> how can I reset nvidia settings?
[19:15] <Captain_Proton_> daftykins: the 7570 is a little better card, but in the pass ATi drivers suck on linux. with steam pushing for better driver support are they better now?
[19:15] <Captain_Proton_> past*
[19:15] <daftykins> Captain_Proton_: that site should have benchmarks on Linux... which would answer your question...
[19:15] <ripplebit> pet2001: all done, cheers
[19:15] <holstein> Vivekananda: i have no idea.. printing is quite simple, assuming hardware support, in the desktop oriented official ubuntu versions
[19:15] <Captain_Proton_> daftykins: ooh ok
[19:15] <nausium> otak I sent you a PM
[19:16] <Vivekananda> holstein: a guide please :) for ubuntu
[19:17] <pet2001> ripplebit: have fun!
[19:17] <holstein> Vivekananda: a guide for printing?
[19:17] <holstein> !printing
[19:17] <mudkip908> ggabriel96: nvidia-xconfig -o /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:17] <mudkip908> ggabriel96: then reboot
[19:17] <ggabriel96> oh k thanks mudkip908
[19:18] <TimothyA1> it appears I've ran into a problem with GRUB as I did an upgrade
[19:18] <ggabriel96> mudkip908: WARNING: Unable to locate/open X configuration file.
[19:18] <ggabriel96> ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'.
[19:18] <mudkip908> ggabriel96: as root
[19:18] <ggabriel96> oh
[19:18] <ggabriel96> mudkip908: I got the same result
[19:18] <antarus> did launchpad.net change their ssl certs recently?
[19:19] <mudkip908> ggabriel96: weird
[19:19] <Vivekananda> holstein: thanks
[19:19] <antarus> I seem to be missing the Valicert class 2 cert, which is in their chain
[19:19] <TimothyA1> where can I pastebin the output of the GRUB errors?
[19:19] <ggabriel96> I had the nvidia driver installed tiwh the additional drivers, but I reverted back to nouveau to test and now I install with sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[19:19] <ggabriel96> with*
[19:20] <mudkip908> ggabriel96: oh you went from nvidia to nouveau?
[19:20] <ggabriel96> and then back to nvidia
[19:20] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | TimothyA1
[19:20] <TimothyA1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5941192/
[19:21] <mudkip908> ggabriel96: and what problem do you have?
[19:21] <TimothyA1> how can I fix this?
[19:21] <ggabriel96> none, I just want to reset the settings
[19:21] <TimothyA1> and is this a problem? will my computer still work after rebooting?
[19:21] <ledtc> mudkip908 not even when i write out the path it accepts it
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> TimothyA1, This a dual boot, and is the other W8?
[19:22] <TimothyA1> wilee-nilee: not dual boot, and W8?
[19:22] <ledtc> mudkip908 if i leav it one folder up, its ok. But asson as i try to put in a  deeper folder it just says session down
[19:22] <mudkip908> ggabriel96: open nvidia-settings, go to "X Server Display Configuration" and click Reset.
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> TimothyA1, Pastebin sudo fdisk -l
[19:22] <mudkip908> ledtc: IDK, I've never hosted an FTP server. Maybe someone else could help you if you posted the exact error message.
[19:22] <TimothyA1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5941199/
[19:23] <ledtc> mudkip908 its not an error
[19:23] <ripplebit> guys im trying to install a windows 7 iso onto a usb, but when I boot, I get an ubuntu menu.
[19:23] <ledtc> Cant login to SFTP if change chrootdirectory :S ?
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> TimothyA1, So, what have you left out here like a gpt partitioning setup?
[19:23] <mudkip908> ledtc: tell me what you want to do
[19:24] <TimothyA1> wilee-nilee: left out? this is all the output I have
[19:24] <ggabriel96> mudkip908: hmm actually I have a problem. I forgot to mention that if I change the screen resolution in the X Server Display Configuration and hit apply, the program closes and when I relaunch it, the changes didnt take effect
[19:24] <ledtc> wnat to chroot them to there own folder, not the folder that contains the "folders"
[19:24] <holstein> ripplebit: im not sure you are allowed to install windows to external drives like that.. i would ask in ##windows for windows issues
[19:24] <mudkip908> ggabriel96: click Save changes to X cofiguration file, and re-login?
[19:24] <zipper> In Kubuntu I set the proxy through system settings but it doesn't work. It works on firefox though.
[19:25] <ggabriel96> k I'll relog, be right back
[19:25] <mudkip908> ggabriel96: no, that probably won't help. for me it works without relogging
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> TimothyA1, You outputs are not showing a standard setup, is this an apple computer a gigantic virtual, a computer that maybe has fastboot?
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> raid..etc
[19:25] <mudkip908> ledtc: say you have an user called "user". right? and when he logs into FTP, you want him to have access only to /home/user?
[19:26] <TimothyA1> wilee-nilee: this is a server at OVH, using OVH's recommended software RAID setup
[19:26] <Corey> mudkip908: chroot. scp-only is a useful shell that ties into this as well.
[19:26] <mudkip908> Corey: I'm not the one having a problem, ledtc is. :)
[19:27] <TimothyA1> but it is a dedicated server, so the hardware exists
[19:27] <ledtc> mudkip908 yes but hes end up at /home/
[19:27] <Corey> Durh.
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> TimothyA1, Excellent, rather pertinent info that you should mention from the get go, I have no idea.
[19:27] <mudkip908> ledtc: read this: http://superuser.com/questions/370953/how-to-not-allow-user-outside-of-home-directory-with-sftp
[19:27] <TimothyA1> wilee-nilee: sorry, I didn't know :/
[19:27] <spikespiegel> how's it going
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> TimothyA1, No biggie, it saves you from bogus advice.
[19:27] <TimothyA1> wilee-nilee: but would this server be safe to reboot ever since I did the update/upgrade?
[19:28] <Swithun_Aristotl> Hello everyone, Swithun_Aristotlehere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> TimothyA1, No idea.
[19:28] <TimothyA1> crap
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> TimothyA1, This a ubuntu-server?
[19:28] <TimothyA1> yes
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> TimothyA1, Try #ubuntu-server
[19:28] <TimothyA1> I thought this would be suitable to #ubuntu since it pertains to the boot manager...
[19:29] <mernilio> Hi all!
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> TimothyA1, It is however, they can help to.
[19:29] <ggabriel96> mudkip908: it woked, thanks! just one more thing: sometimes when I'm booting, a message appears in the plymouth screen saying something like the /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready yet o present. is it normal?
[19:29] <ledtc> mudkip908 yes but now the user cannt edit his own "homefolder"
[19:29] <mernilio> opps! Im not banned from this channel! Thats refreching... :-)
[19:30] <holstein> mernilio: you might wnat to discuss that in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> TimothyA1, It seems a matter of importance so thought this might be helpful is all for a quicker fix. ;)
[19:31] <mudkip908> ggabriel96: it's probably not a problem, unless you're using encryption
[19:31] <ggabriel96> I am using encryption
[19:31] <mernilio> maybee so! I will think about it!
[19:31] <TimothyA1> wilee-nilee: it's OVH. you know there will be an electricity outage of some kind
[19:31] <holstein> mernilio: please keep this channel clear of non-support chat while you consider it.. thanks!
[19:31] <ggabriel96> mudkip908: that means that if I'm using encryption, that's normal?
[19:32] <mernilio> like i said: I will think make it an option. Thank you very much! :-)
[19:32] <mudkip908> ggabriel96: no, that means it's a problem if you're using encrypted swap
[19:32] <mudkip908> ggabriel96: does it actually get mounted? check if there's any swap in htop
[19:33] <pedahzur> Can someone point me to docs on convincing a Linux kernel to number internal storage (i.e. named the internal stuff sda, sdb....) before it starts naming the external SAS attached storage?
[19:33] <mhd> Why isn't there a SML package for Pangolin?
[19:33] <psusi> pedahzur, you don't... devices can be detected in any order.. it's entirely undefined
[19:33] <mhd> And can I yank it from Quantal instead?
[19:33] <mudkip908> ledtc: what error do you get?
[19:34] <ggabriel96> mudkip908: yes, there is a swap. it is shown in htop and in system monitor either, so it gets mounted
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> mhd, ask the developers
[19:34] <Karantin1> Hi all.  I have a problem. A have just install ubuntu 13.04 and after reboot instalation i can see only black screen with cursor. I think it is a problem with 2 videocards in my system, and i find a solution, but... how i can edit xorg.conf if i cannt load system in any mode?
[19:34] <silas> RBRAZIL
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | Karantin1
[19:34] <Guest7102> Hi?
[19:34] <mhd> wilee-nilee: ok. Is there as standardized way to use the Quantal packages?
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> mhd, I would not know in this case.
[19:35] <mhd> wilee-nilee: Would you know how one goes about finding that out?
[19:36] <mudkip908> ggabriel96: If the swap gets mounted, I wouldn't worry about it.
[19:36] <ggabriel96> mudkip908: oh ok, thanks ^^
[19:37] <subman__> I just installed xubuntu on my laptop but upon starting it up I get:  Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed.  Rebooting just comes up with the same error.  Any ideas?
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> mhd, Generally using another release's stuff is not advised, however if you know what your doing you can in some form, as a deb download...etc, I am just not familiar with  SML
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> subman__, Fresh install I would check the sum on the original iso and reinstall myself, not enough info in "Fixing recursive fault" at least for me.
[19:39] <TimothyA1> wilee-nilee: apparently it was safe to reboot
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> TimothyA1, Cool, enjoy.
[19:41] <ledtc>  mudkip908 so basicly, to use the SFTP the homefolder must be 750 but to edit the files in the folder it must be 770,  as the owner of the folder must be root or els it wont work, and if you change the permission it goes 770 it also wont work
[19:43] <Karantin1> how to change something in /etc/ in system that i cannt load, my live cd with 13 04 have only graphic mode, and i cannt change anything in /etc/  (or i dont  know how... )
[19:43] <mudkip908> ledtc: Like I said, I dont
[19:43] <mudkip908> ledtc: I've never hosted a SFTP server. Try following this guide and see if it helps you? http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2012/03/chroot-sftp-setup/
[19:45] <alchimista> i, i've tryed to install 13.04 on a disk with a pre-installed win 8, but when chosing the partitions, it doesn't recognizes windows as installed, just several ntfs and fat32 partitions. is there any way to avoid the manual partition and install?
[19:45] <killer> hey
[19:45] <killer> hey
[19:45] <mudkip908> killer: yo
[19:45] <holstein> alchimista: manual partitioning after preping the disk would be on the table for me
[19:46] <Aviram> HEy guys, the sound in my firefox browser stopped working..
[19:46] <killer> There was a program in windows that preloads some parts of firefox in memory at startup(so to make firefox's startup really fast).Any such thing in linux
[19:46] <mudkip908> Aviram: does sound work properly in other applications?
[19:46] <Aviram> mudkip908: yes
[19:46] <zenpac> Where should i install my java .jar files ? I have multiple versions of java jdk
[19:47] <Aviram> I think it's the flash player
[19:47] <mudkip908> Aviram: close firefox and open it again
[19:48] <Aviram> mudkip908: tried it, tried restarting firefox also
[19:48] <mudkip908> Aviram: type this into a terminal: "killall plugin-container"
[19:49] <Marlene> mudkip908:  i get starnge xx in MC instead of strait lines
[19:49] <Marlene> mudkip908:  http://bpaste.net/show/1qc5Qj47fb5EAwYvty1r/
[19:49] <mudkip908> Marlene: what terminal emulator are you using?
[19:50] <Aviram> mudkip908: doesn't help
[19:50] <ledtc> mudkip908 i made a ugly fix, made another folder called files wich i then gave to the user, so it works fine now :)
[19:51] <mudkip908> ledtc: glad you got it working, even if it's ugly :)
[19:51] <Marlene> mudkip908:  iam using putty
[19:51] <mudkip908> Aviram: go to your sound settings, and then to Applications or something like that. Does flash player appear there?
[19:52] <Aviram> mudkip908: just checked, HTMl5 sound works
[19:52] <mudkip908> Marlene: try this http://www.andremiller.net/files/putty_settings.png
[19:53] <mudkip908> Aviram: open pavucontrol. Does everything look alright? (no muted channels)
[19:54] <alchimista> holstein: so could you guide me? I`ve disabled secure bot, i'm already running live usb, and everything goes fine until i get the "installation type", where i must select "something else"
[19:55] <holstein> alchimista: i would boot a live cd with gparted, shink the partition.. and install manually on the space left
[19:57] <geri> semeion: hi
[19:57] <alchimista> holstein: i've already shrinked using windows, before tryng to install ubuntu
[19:58] <holstein> alchimista: then, manually partition, and install
[19:59] <alchimista> holstein: do i only select the free space and press install?
[20:00] <mudkip908> alchimista: no, you need to create a pertitnon.
[20:00] <Mathias__> Hi. I have got a problem: while "apt-get update" Ubuntu 12.04 the screen became black (with some text). Now rebooting is not possible anymore. I tried reinstalling Ubuntu while keeping my LVM settings since I want to keep my home partition. But still Ubuntu does not start. There is just a cursor blinking at or before Grub loads. Any idea? What can I do?
[20:00] <holstein> alchimista: i manually partition. i would do that from the same gparted live CD i shrink the partition with
[20:01] <holstein> !nomodeset | Mathias__
[20:01] <holstein> Mathias__: can you get to the recovery options?
[20:02] <Mathias__> holstein: I think Grub is not loaded at all. Recovery is only possible with external boot from USB stick.
[20:02] <holstein> Mathias__: its hard to tell... i would to the usual hard disks and memory test
[20:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> Hullo, is there a quick way to tell what sort of wireless network you are associated with? (ABG or N?) using the terminal?
[20:03] <alchimista> holstein: i can do that here, do i choose all the free space and create a primary partition ext2?
[20:03] <daftykins> ntzrmtthihu777: iwconfig -a might help
[20:03] <holstein> alchimista: if thats what you want.. i usually make a smallish swap space.. 1 gb, and the rest ext4
[20:03] <Mathias__> holstein: Yes, really hard. I was also able to copy files after booting from the external USB flash.
[20:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> daftykins: tells me alotta info, yes, bt not a,g,b, or n. :/
[20:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> I used to know this...
[20:04] <Mathias__> holstein: Maybe some special setup for the boot or UEFI partition is necessary.
[20:05] <holstein> !uefi
[20:06] <daftykins> ntzrmtthihu777: does it not show a data rate?
[20:06] <Mathias__> ubottu: I know, thanks anyway.
[20:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> daftykins: 6.5mbs
[20:07] <daftykins> ah, rate adaptive i guess
[20:07] <tux_> is there a chan to discuss ubuntu edge? funding campaign etc..
[20:07] <bekks> tux_: #ubuntu-touch
[20:08] <tux_> bekks, there already, it was 7,995 a min ago now its dropped back to 7,962 : weird
[20:09] <Fernseher> hey penguin lovers
[20:09] <Fernseher> Should I learn shell scripting to get better at linux?
[20:10] <geri> semeion: ?
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> Fernseher  it helps, but is not needed
[20:10] <tux_> Fernseher, it helps, have a look at python too
[20:10] <Fernseher> python, really?
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> Fernseher  i don't know python and am happy with ubuntu, so ...
[20:11] <jValentin> I'm looking at getting a new computer but HATE window 8. Can I hope that I can get drivers for all features, like multi-touch mouse, camera and touch screen if I boot it to Ubuntu?
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> jValentin  try a live session, first
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> jValentin  no need to install
[20:12] <Fernseher> ok, but everything config file or in general, every freaking file in linux is written in shell script, so learning that must be a huge advantage?
[20:12] <jValentin> MonkeyDust: well, I'm hoping to learn what I can before spending money on it
[20:12] <jValentin> I'm kinda cheap when it comes to anything over a $1.25 ;)
[20:12] <hjubal> hi, what are the differences between Ubuntu server and Debian stable? I mean, why should I suggest a customer to choose one or another?
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> !ot | hjubal
[20:13] <hjubal> Oops! So sorry, will do. Thanks
[20:14] <geri> who did i talk to yesterday regarding libhbaapi?
[20:15] <mcs-seattle> On a similar subject, what is the best place to discuss/work on new hardware support for ubuntu? I am a developer and would love to help, but don't know where to start.
[20:15] <daftykins> i think there's an #ubuntu-devel
[20:16] <mcs-seattle> Thanks. I'll try there.
[20:16] <Malgorath> I have just booted into 13.04 that was working fine, but I had to change video cards, I get the 'desktop background' but the menu bar and other items are not appearing. Any help? I can right click and get to settings and change background but nothing else seems to be working
[20:17] <doug> can someone point me at a good liveusb distro?
[20:17] <z8z> doug: ubuntu?
[20:17] <doug> z8z: sure
[20:20] <alchimista> holstein: i've passed that part, now i'm on my confort zone again, thanks! Now lets hope that grub works fine
[20:26] <ledtc> Anyone have any tips on how to make your server into a nas ?
[20:26] <ledtc> or more like a nas
[20:27] <bekks> Install a file sharing server like NFS, FTP, Samba, AFP, SFTP, etc.
[20:28] <ledtc> yeah, id really like to able to just mount it in windows
[20:28] <ledtc> and beable to access it from internet as well
[20:28] <donsd> xx
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> ledtc  http://askubuntu.com/questions/1266/how-to-set-up-ubuntu-server-as-a-nas
[20:30] <ledtc> yeah i was thinking of samba but i dont want to use the VPN
[20:32] <bekks> ledtc: VPN does not have anything to do with Samba.
[20:32] <ledtc> well if you want it to go pass your router is has everything to do with samba
[20:32] <bekks> ledtc: It doesnt. As had been widely known, Samba isnt routable.
[20:33] <bekks> ledtc: And using a VPN, Samba works perfectly, since it does not need to be routed, due to the VPN.
[20:33] <ledtc> thats why you use the vpn, cuz samba works on a local level
[20:33] <bekks> Which works very fine, using Samba.
[20:33] <tarazano> hi
[20:33] <ledtc> jupp
[20:34] <nubblet> hi
[20:34] <bekks> ledtc: So there is no problem with VPN and Samba.
[20:34] <ledtc> problem no, but i dont want to use the vpn
[20:34] <bekks> ledtc: Then use another protocol, which is routable.
[20:34] <ledtc> i want  to be able to Share across the Internet with out vpn
[20:35] <ledtc> but i cant find a hosting software that does that
[20:36] <nubblet> ledtc: what do you want to achive?
[20:36] <MonkeyDust> ledtc  is owncloud what you want?
[20:36] <ledtc> when i m at my friends house, having a beer or something, i can just use some windows thing like "mounting" to acess my server, and stream a film or music
[20:37] <bekks> ledtc: FTP is routable, SFTP is routable.
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset > wilee-nilee
[20:37] <ledtc> yes but both demands more software
[20:37] <ledtc> im looking not to have to download something where i go
[20:37] <bekks> ledtc: Which one, besides a client, like Filezilla?
[20:37] <Awaken> your internet browser will connect to FTP
[20:37] <bekks> ledtc: Then use HTTP and WebDAV.
[20:37] <Awaken> just do username:password@ftpserver.com
[20:38] <bekks> Awaken++
[20:38] <Awaken> webdav in windows is a bit crappy
[20:38] <Awaken> sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt, and troubleshooting it is a pain :D
[20:38] <ledtc> how do men awaken ?
[20:38] <TimothyA1> where isn't it
[20:38] <TimothyA1> ledtc: I wish I could answer that without being kicked
[20:38] <Awaken> i've used webdav for things in the past and gave up on the built in client
[20:39] <nubblet> getting out of bed was the second ahrdest thing tis morning :D
[20:39] <nubblet> *this
[20:39] <Awaken> spent ages faffing around then just installed another client and it all just worked
[20:39] <ledtc> haha no, i mean username:password@ftpserver.com  , is there an built in thing for that in windows ?
[20:39] <Awaken> so im gonna blame windows :D
[20:39] <Awaken> no its built into your web browser
[20:39] <Awaken> even IE :D
[20:39] <bekks> ledtc: That IS the builtin thing...
[20:39] <Awaken> not that anyone should be using IE
[20:39] <FloodBot1> Awaken: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:40] <Awaken> FTP is not very secure though. Only share what you dont mind being public and use a strong password
[20:40] <skorasaurus3> hi, I deleted my swap partition and I'm try to recreate but I am receiving an error and googling the error didn't give a clear indication what's wrong - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5941440/
[20:40] <ledtc> you can mount SFTP folder if you have a software.... wonder if you can do that with out ?
[20:40] <nAn00k> can someone pentest my server?
[20:40] <skorasaurus3> I am creating it in disk utility.
[20:40] <Awaken> you cant access SFTP from your web browser
[20:40] <bekks> ledtc: No, you cant.
[20:40] <nubblet> ledtc: i think you best option is a FTP server - it's is not know for security but i think it suits your eeds best
[20:40] <bekks> ledtc: You need something like Filezilla or WinSCP.
[20:40] <skorasaurus3> I opened gparted and unfortunately gparted is only displaying one partition.
[20:40] <nubblet> ang, Awaken was faster :P
[20:41] <bekks> ledtc: Or https.
[20:41] <nAn00k> be warned i run debian not ubshiittu tho
[20:41] <nAn00k> !op
[20:41] <bekks> nAn00k: Then please ask your debian support, not us.
[20:41] <nubblet> nAn00k: maybe go to #security ?
[20:41] <Awaken> web browser is all one way though. You can look into running a web server with a PHP file manager script on it
[20:42] <nAn00k> oh word ill hit up that channel, ubuntu people are n00bs anyways
[20:42] <Myrtti> are you done then?
[20:42] <bekks> nAn00k: Then dont ask us to pentest your non-ubuntu-server.
[20:43] <nAn00k> ubuntu is pretty much debian with n00btools added
[20:43] <DJones> nAn00k: Enough of that]
[20:44] <Awaken> whats wrong with noobtools anyway? :P
[20:44] <Myrtti> move along
[20:44] <nAn00k> they use up resources
[20:44] <mudkip908> " ubuntu is pretty much debian with n00btools added".. says the n00b using the freenode web-gateway instead of a proper IRC client
[20:44] <Awaken> uninstall them then, or are you too much of a noob :)
[20:44] <nAn00k> whats wrong with the webclient
[20:44] <Awaken> apt-get purge whatever you want
[20:44] <nAn00k> rm -rf /
[20:44] <Awaken> yeh best plan, go do that now :D
[20:46] <Xolani_Honoratus> Hello everyone, Xolani_Honoratushere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[20:46] <mudkip908> Xolani_Honoratus: piss off
[20:46] <mudkip908> what's with all these kiddies going into the channel and saying the'yre ready to DDOS?
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> !ot | mudkip908
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> mudkip908  summer vacantion, kids are bored
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> don't enable them by recognizing their existence
[20:48] <brainwash> did adobe drop support for hardware accelerated playback of flash videos via vdpau or is still supported?
[20:49] <bekks> brainwash: 11.2 supported it - and thats the last version supported on linux.
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> brainwash, Adobe has no linux support I believe now.
[20:49] <skorasaurus3> hi, I deleted my swap partition and I'm try to recreate but I am receiving an error and googling the error didn't give a clear indication what's wrong - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5941440/
[20:49] <jablo> Hi. I am trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 using the mini.iso on an old Ibm Thinkpad T42 machine. The CD boots fine, and I go through the menu selections for language, keyboard, network etc. Unfortunately it seems that the package downloads never really start. It gets an IP address with DHCP fine and download starts. Last messages on the "F4" screen are
[20:49] <jablo> Good signature from "Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key"...
[20:49] <jablo> net-retriever:
[20:49] <jablo> then nothing happens...
[20:49] <FloodBot1> jablo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, use gparted
[20:49] <mudkip908> skorasaurus3: what program are you using to create the partition?
[20:50] <skorasaurus3> disk utility.
[20:50] <mudkip908> skorasaurus3: ^ what wilee-nilee said.
[20:50] <skorasaurus3> (reason that I deleted the swap partition was because my swap was not recognized.
[20:50] <ajp> Is anyone available to help? I'm trying to figure out why my upstart script (http://pastebin.com/uiXkd901) is not working properly on my headless server.
[20:50] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, Did you mess with fstab, and did you check the uuid?
[20:51] <brainwash> bekks: thanks
[20:51] <skorasaurus3> wilee-nilee: reason I deleted my swap partition was because it was encrypted, and not being mounted. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/1061190
[20:51] <Minkovsky> so I guess an old nvidia problem is still in the kernel? http://pastebin.com/TGECzrgC (output of grepping xorg logs)
[20:51] <skorasaurus3> so, I was frustrated by that and redeleted it and hoped to create an unecrypted swap.
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, ah encryption, I never bother.
[20:52] <skorasaurus3> I open gparted and it detects only partition.
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, This is a vm anyway I would not bother with encrypting.
[20:52] <skorasaurus3> and i am googling and found this which maybe helfpul - http://www.rodsbooks.com/missing-parts/
[20:53] <wilee-nilee> good site
[20:53] <skorasaurus3> but I'm still trying to figure out what to do next.
[20:53] <Minkovsky> the crash is usually caused by segfaults caused by/occurring in nvidia drivers
[20:53] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, Imagebin the gparted as a screenshot
[20:54] <skorasaurus3> wilee-nilee: thank you very much for helping btw, :)
[20:54] <skorasaurus3> here's my fdisk output, getting the screenshot in a sec. http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[20:54] <skorasaurus3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5941495/
[20:54] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, No prob, gparted has a dropdown, for seperate HD, you made a sdb are you looking at sda?
[20:55] <Guest94227> hi
[20:55] <suore> Hello, cannot install ubuntu (xubuntu)
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, YOu have partitions out of numerical order that caueses problems
[20:56] <suore> Installed no see dics
[20:56] <suore> Unable to open /dev/sr0 read-write (Read-only file system).  /dev/sr0 has been opened read-only.
[20:56] <suore> Unable to open /dev/sr0 read-write (Read-only file system).  /dev/sr0 has been opened read-only.
[20:56] <suore> Can't have a partition outside the disk!
[20:56] <FloodBot1> suore: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:56] <tux31> problem play facebook game
[20:56] <tux31> what i need install
[20:56] <suore> Why i cannot install (X)ubuntu?
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> suore, You on the live cd?
[20:56] <suore> wilee-nilee, yes
[20:56] <suore> im live cd
[20:57] <suore> and i cannot install ,at gparted also no see dics
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> suore, Open gparted and take a screen shot and imagebin it.
[20:57] <suore> o0kay
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin | suore
[20:57] <skorasaurus3> wilee-nilee: I tried to create a new partition but  received that error http://paste.ubuntu.com/5941440/
[20:58] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, If you have the partition #'s out of order from front to end you will have problems, I suspect that is what is happening show me the gparted image.
[20:59] <nAn00k2> does ubuntu use shadowed pw?
[20:59] <skorasaurus3> wilee-nilee:  http://imgur.com/IGJjv7z
[20:59] <suore> http://imagebin.org/266343
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, Of the vm.
[20:59] <utabak> Has anyone experienced problems installing ubuntu on HP laptops
[20:59] <suore> wilee-nilee, http://imagebin.org/266343
[20:59] <Pici> nAn00k: yes
[20:59] <xangua> !anyone | utabak
[20:59] <skorasaurus3> wilee-nilee: i'm not using a vm.
[21:00] <wilee-nilee> suore, Is this a new HD?
[21:00] <robertzaccour> should I edit my /etc/network/interfaces with sudo or gksudo? Or does it matter either way?
[21:00] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, Ah I thought you were, is there any partitions there?
[21:00] <suore> wilee-nilee, no... dics have around... 2 yeats, Segete 500gb DISC1, and DISC2 also Seagite 200gb
[21:00] <nAn00k2> you heads have it good compared to the old days trying to get broadcom chipsets to work with linux omfg
[21:00] <bekks> robertzaccour: It depends your editor. For a CLI editor, use sudo. For a GUI editor, use gksu
[21:00] <suore> idk why i cannot install
[21:00] <skorasaurus3> wilee-nilee: where ? on my hard drive, yes, there are several. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5941495/
[21:01] <suore> any tricks?
[21:01] <nAn00k2> i dont even have a gui on my server lolz
[21:01] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, gparted shows unallocated on sda, maybe a broken partition table.
[21:01] <robertzaccour> bekks: like for instance if I open it like "sudo leavpad /etc/network/interfaces" should I instead use gksudo?
[21:01] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, Whay does the properties info say
[21:01] <suore> wilee-nilee, any idea?
[21:02] <bekks> robertzaccour: I have no clue about "leavpad". Never heard/used it.
[21:02] <utabak> I have an hp 8570w laptop and my installation crashes with a error related to /usr/lib/ubiquity/bin/ubiquity
[21:02] <skorasaurus3> invalid partition table, wrong signature 0.
[21:02] <robertzaccour> bekks: Its like gedit or abiword
[21:02] <bekks> robertzaccour: Then it is a GUI editor.
[21:02] <utabak> I can not install ubuntu on my new laptop
[21:02] <wilee-nilee> suore, open gparted from the menu and post that hard to tell from what I see.
[21:02] <robertzaccour> bekks: Oh ok, so gksudo then. Thanks bro.
[21:02] <jablo> OMG. Sry about my question re. mini.iso before. It works, it just looked like there was no network activity for - like - half an eternity or so. Now it looks like something is being downloaded.
[21:03] <hmmm> hello
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, This a fastboot computer?
[21:03] <skorasaurus3> fastboot ?
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, W8 gpt uefi, or an apple computer, what other OS do you have in sda?
[21:04] <robertzaccour> bekks: Is gksu the same as gksudo?
[21:04] <skorasaurus3> wilee-nilee: this is eufi.
[21:04] <skorasaurus3> uefi. I don't have windows on it. though.
[21:04] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, Ah, so this computer came with W8 right?
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, Did we not converse yesterday?
[21:05] <nAn00k> hey can i just ask why i was kicked earlier?
[21:05] <skorasaurus3> wilee-nilee: no we did not converse yesterday :)
[21:05] <Pici> nAn00k: you can ask #ubuntu-ops
[21:05] <dingding> hello all
[21:05] <nAn00k> i THOUGHT people would realize i was joking by saying to su rm -rf /
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> nAn00k, read the channel guidelines every post you made broke them.
[21:06] <robertzaccour> bekks: Is gksu the same as gksudo?
[21:06] <dingding> could someone help me determine if my sandybridge (core i5 2410M) Intel HD 3000 GPU is installed correctly and performing well?
[21:06] <tux31> what euivalent of flash player on ubuntu»??
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, So this computer had W8 right details a really important here.
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> are*
[21:07] <suore>    wilee-nilee http://imagebin.org/266346 no devices detected
[21:07] <suore> why
[21:07] <bekks> tux31: "flash player", or the successor, PepperFlash which is built into Chrome.
[21:07] <tones> how do I make "save file" default to desktop folder instead of downloads folder?
[21:07] <bekks> robertzaccour: Yes.
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> suore, No idea I would check the HD is plugged in correctly.
[21:08] <suore> wilee-nilee, its SATA xD
[21:08] <robertzaccour> bekks: ok thanks
[21:08] <suore> yyy lolz! my volumes now to be mounter... after time... omg
[21:08] <skorasaurus3> wilee-nilee: I'm not 100% sure, bought it in july 2012, it's an acer aspire 5560-7414
[21:08] <skorasaurus3> i didn't even bother using windows on it at all.
[21:08] <skorasaurus3> I don't so.
[21:08] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, New? did it have W8?
[21:09] <tux31> why facebook game don't work properly
[21:09] <skorasaurus3> I don't think it had win.8.
[21:09] <bekks> tux31: As the author of the game or the manufacturer of flash :)
[21:09] <skorasaurus3> !lang | tux31
[21:09] <skorasaurus3> !language | tux31
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, If it has uefi it was W8 most likely, just removing the windows and trying to install linux is geekville to some extent.
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | skorasaurus3
[21:10] <bekks> skorasaurus3: He didnt say anything bad.
[21:10] <skorasaurus3> bekks: I was trying to direct them to a channel where perhaps they could speak a language they were fluent in.
[21:10] <bekks> skorasaurus3: Then you better ask whats his native language.
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, more uefi, I wonder if you have a broken partition table http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[21:11] <tux31> who playin criminal case on facebook?
[21:11] <bekks> tux31: Millions of people do, afaik.
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> !ot | tux31
[21:11] <skorasaurus3> wilee-nilee: I am aware that my computer is UEFI.
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, Why yes you are, but I had to ask why?
[21:12] <ludwig___> do live usb's always delete the applications  you install after a restart?  how can i permanently install something on a live usb
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, Yo can cop an attitude if you like I just as soon ignore you.
[21:13] <bekks> ludwig___: You cant, on a live USB. You have to do a persistent install on an USB, e.g.
[21:13] <skorasaurus3> wilee-nilee: sorry, I'm not trying to cop an attitude.
[21:13] <xangua> !usb | ludwig___ or install ubuntu in the usb instead of the hd as you normally do
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, Cool, one never knows here is all.
[21:14] <skorasaurus3> wilee-nilee: agreed.
[21:14] <skorasaurus3> I don't mean to come off as rude, just a little frustrated at the moment with this. :/
[21:14] <Dr_willis> computers = frustration in a box. ;)
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, It looks like a broken partition table, just a guess though I'm not up on uefi/gpt in general, I would use the ubuntu forums if it were me and look for help from the mod on the link I posted you.
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> that us the DR's orders
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> is*
[21:15] <Dr_willis> i dont really mess with uefi/gpt either
[21:16] <skorasaurus3> wilee-nilee: thank you for the help.
[21:16] <skorasaurus3> and for trying.
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, Your fdisk showed partitions, however out of numerical order that alone is a problem when making new partitions, and unallocated in gparted compounds this.
[21:17] <wilee-nilee> skorasaurus3, No problem. ;)
[21:17] <Dr_willis> i was thinking for gpt stuff - you dident want to use fdisk.
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, or gparted I think, lol
[21:18] <quibble42> What's the ubuntu channel for linux drivers (relating to USB's and the fact that they wont register)
[21:19] <Zoiaguyver> Its gdisk for gpt partions
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> quibble42, Are you sure that is the problem, hows about a description of the issue.
[21:20] <Zoiaguyver> Although some of the commands are weird if your used to fdisk. I always refer to the help thing in it as I can't remember jack
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> Zoiaguyver, The user is gone
[21:20] <Zoiaguyver> well im also slow at typing
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> Zoiaguyver, you to. ;)
[21:21] <quibble42> wilee-nilee, I have a 64bit ubuntu, and a 'Lexar' company 16GB twist turn usb
[21:21] <quibble42> it doesn't register the usb when I put it in the computer
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> quibble42, Have you looked with the lsusb command?
[21:22] <quibble42> wilee-nilee nope, how do I do that
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> or run a fdisk -l
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> quibble42, In the terminal bot commands seperate
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> both
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> sudo fdisk -l  actually
[21:23] <dingding> hmm
[21:23] <dingding> could someone help me determine if my sandybridge (core i5 2410M) Intel HD 3000 GPU is installed correctly and performing well?
[21:23] <quibble42> wilee-nilee 1 l "lsusb" seems to have sensed its presence. now what
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> quibble42, Have you looked in home left panel to se if there?
[21:24] <quibble42> wilee-nilee, it's not there
[21:24] <psusi> dingding, run glxgears
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> quibble42, Did you ad it to fstab?
[21:24] <quibble42> wilee-nilee, nope, I wouldn't know how
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> quibble42, pastebin sudo fdisk -l
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | quibble42
[21:25] <parag> hi
[21:26] <boris> ales Hallo, Raspberry PI Server Boris
[21:26] <quibble42> wilee-nilee, "pastebin --> command not found
[21:27] <quibble42> "
[21:27] <wilee-nilee> quibble42, Here is a wiki, I gave you pastebin info via the bot, just use the wiki. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[21:27] <t-ubuntu> hi All I seem to have trouble with conencting with my wifi card online
[21:27] <dirtydaw1> evening all  quick question im aware i can open files usign pico or vi adn such isbut how do i open a txt file with text editor  in the command line
[21:27] <t-ubuntu> My wifi card model is Airlink Awll6075
[21:28] <wilee-nilee> quibble42, We will get you all linuxed up. ;)
[21:28] <t-ubuntu> I seem to have found my network but it cant seem to connect to it and I am sure that I have entered the correct password
[21:28] <t-ubuntu> Can someone please help put ?
[21:28] <quibble42> wilee-nilee wooooo okay I'll look into this and get back if it works :D
[21:28] <wilee-nilee> quibble42, Coo. ;)
[21:28] <wilee-nilee> Cool *
[21:29] <t-ubuntu> I've been trying to connect for hours now
[21:29] <dirtydaw1> evening all  quick question im aware i can open files usign pico or vi adn such isbut how do i open a txt file with text editor  in the command line
[21:30] <theslay> try gedit <file_nam>
[21:30] <t-ubuntu_> hi all
[21:30] <dirtydaw1> is that a termial editor ?
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> t-ubuntu, I see very little on that card, I wonder if that name is correct for what it actually is, what does lspci call it?
[21:31] <dirtydaw1> will tr6y none the less
[21:31] <t-ubuntu> what do you mean wilee-nilee  ?
[21:31] <t-ubuntu> lspsci?
[21:31] <t-ubuntu> I've been dying to get this card working
[21:32] <wilee-nilee> t-ubuntu, I mean in the terminal run lspci and make sure it shows the same name, this is a usb right?
[21:32] <t-ubuntu> yes
[21:32] <t-ubuntu> when I run lspsci what should it show?
[21:32] <bernard_> hi
[21:33] <t-ubuntu> wilee-nilee,  its not showing my card name
[21:33] <t-ubuntu> when I Run lspsci
[21:33] <t-ubuntu> erm
[21:33] <t-ubuntu> its showing the port but not the card
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> t-ubuntu, Try lspci then lsusb and see if the "Airlink Awll6075" is what is there. I suspect it does not work in linux I see a lot of does not work on the net.
[21:33] <dirtydaw1> and to open .png how is this done?
[21:33] <dirtydaw1> or anyn image file for thats matter
[21:34] <t-ubuntu> ITs not there wilee-nilee
[21:34] <t-ubuntu> I really want this card to work
[21:34] <t-ubuntu> It seems to detect my network but the autentication keeps on popping up
[21:34] <dirtydaw1> or anyn image file for thats matter
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> t-ubuntu, wanting and having it actually work may not correspond, I see no method, but I can only do so much.
[21:35] <dirtydaw1> how can you open image files from terminal
[21:35] <t-ubuntu> wilee-nilee,  what else can I try?
[21:36] <t-ubuntu> hm
[21:36] <t-ubuntu> what else do you suggest I do wilee-nilee  ?
[21:36] <wilee-nilee> t-ubuntu, If it were me I would bet a usb that plugs and works, every one I have tried does, but that was a couple of years ago, so I don't remember their names.
[21:36] <wilee-nilee> buy*
[21:36] <t-ubuntu> ok...
[21:37] <t-ubuntu> what do you suggest I do now?
[21:38] <t-ubuntu> wilee-nilee,  as i said it detects the wifi network but I cant seem to get it to conenct to it
[21:38] <t-ubuntu> it keeps on shwoing the wifi symbol saying connected and disconencted
[21:38] <t-ubuntu> so thats odd
[21:38] <t-ubuntu> ?
[21:39] <t-ubuntu> hmm
[21:39] <wilee-nilee> t-ubuntu, I would not know a fix here, however amazon lists usb wifi that work in linux if that helps. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss/175-3242560-0716242?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=usb+linux
[21:40] <t-ubuntu> how is that supposed to help wilee-nilee  ?
[21:41] <Hammerhead2011-S> Hi all, did something change with cifs? everytime i try to cifs mount something I get a permission denied message 13 . this was all working before the updates yesterday....
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> t-ubuntu, The amazon page on it says it works in linux, I have no idea how though myself, or where to start, there is a regular user here great with some wifi.
[21:41] <t-ubuntu> oh
[21:41] <t-ubuntu> is he online wi ?
[21:41] <t-ubuntu> wilee-nilee,  ?
[21:42] <apm1> there is still an year left before 14.04 comes out ?
[21:42] <wilee-nilee> t-ubuntu, Probably would have answered if they were by now.
[21:42] <nAn00k> i ll give you guys this you're smarter than the macfagz
[21:42] <t-ubuntu> h
[21:42] <Dr_willis> apm1,  version # is the date of release
[21:42] <t-ubuntu> any suggestions ?
[21:42] <Dr_willis> 14,04 - 2014, 4th month
[21:42] <apm1> Dr_willis, oh ok thanks for the info :)
[21:43] <Antonio_> hi
[21:43] <daftykins> hi
[21:44] <Arkhana> Hi
[21:44] <t-ubuntu> wilee-nilee,  what can I do now ?
[21:45] <bekks> t-ubuntu: Which wifi chipset do you have exactly?
[21:45] <t-ubuntu> uh
[21:45] <nerdcustoms> have you guys see this pic before. Always makes me laugh.
[21:45] <nerdcustoms> https://sphotos-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/384472_453494734672971_995159979_n.jpg
[21:45] <nerdcustoms> That guy is a Boss :D
[21:45] <t-ubuntu> the airlink AWLL6075
[21:46] <wilee-nilee> !ot | nerdcustoms
[21:46] <xubuntu479> Hey , who cen help me whit wireless antenna ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5941656/ , i reinstaled xubuntu after did software update and http://paste.ubuntu.com/5941587/ still not working  and when rebooting laptop getting this error http://imgur.com/YeJpKaP
[21:46] <Casey> I have a Biostar A960D+ MB running 12.04 server LTS that after some recent updates from Ubuntu, my sound card is no longer recognized and will not playback sound
[21:46] <nerdcustoms> haha didn't mean to spam you guys
[21:46] <nerdcustoms> in the support forum
[21:46] <nerdcustoms> sorry, had to share :D
[21:46] <t-ubuntu> any help
[21:46] <bekks> t-ubuntu: Thats the make and model. I asked for the chipset.
[21:47] <t-ubuntu> intel chipset
[21:47] <bekks> t-ubuntu: Which one exactly?
[21:48] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | xubuntu479 for the wireless
[21:48] <t-ubuntu> sorry where do you find it
[21:48] <bekks> t-ubuntu: lsusb
[21:48] <wilee-nilee> xubuntu479, Can't really see the error keep you inquiry separate if you can.
[21:48] <Arkhana> Lsusb, I didn't know about that command
[21:49] <wilee-nilee> !who | Arkhana
[21:50] <wilee-nilee> Arkhana, Kinda busy here to make ramdom comments is all.
[21:50] <t-ubuntu> bekks- so far it does not recognize the wireless adapter
[21:50] <t-ubuntu> be
[21:50] <Arkhana> Ok :D
[21:50] <Arkhana> Bekks: I've never heard before of the command lsusb
[21:50] <dirtydaw1> all fixed now nps hope your all well
[21:50] <bekks> t-ubuntu: When the adapter isnt even recognized at all, then its not usable in linux. So you have to buy another one.
[21:51] <Dr_willis> does dmesg even mention the adaptor?
[21:51] <t-ubuntu> wilee-nilee, said that the adapter is compatible on linux in amazon
[21:51] <Casey> I have a Biostar A960D+ MB running 12.04 server LTS that after some recent updates from Ubuntu, my sound card is no longer recognized and will not playback sound
[21:51] <t-ubuntu> i have linux 12.04 lts
[21:51] <Arkhana> T-ubuntu: Maybe reinstall your system may help
[21:51] <xubuntu479> wilee-nilee , i cant start my wireless antenna http://paste.ubuntu.com/5941656/
[21:51] <Dr_willis> t-ubuntu,  ive bought 'devices' off amazon that 'worked in linux' but the company changed chipsets  - so the review/info was old and incorrect.
[21:51] <bekks> t-ubuntu: Dont listen to Arkhana, you are not using Windows.
[21:51] <wilee-nilee> t-ubuntu, I said the amazon site says it is, don't believe everything on the web.
[21:52] <Dr_willis> t-ubuntu,  id test with 13.04  - it may just 'work'
[21:52] <t-ubuntu> he did an update
[21:52] <wilee-nilee> xubuntu479, I know nothing about broadcom.
[21:52] <t-ubuntu> wilee-nilee, he did an update less than a year ago
[21:52] <daftykins> Casey: tried checking if it's the kernel?
[21:52] <bekks> t-ubuntu: Who is "he"?
[21:52] <t-ubuntu> the person who reviewed the adapter (sorry i should have been gender ambiguous)
[21:53] <ejv> help: http://dpaste.com/1328487/
[21:53] <ejv> ^
[21:53] <t-ubuntu> let me post the link
[21:53] <t-ubuntu> for the review
[21:53] <Casey> daftykins I'm too much of a ubuntu noob to know where to start for something like that
[21:53] <xubuntu479> Hey , who cen help me whit wireless antenna ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5941656/
[21:53] <bekks> t-ubuntu: And maybe one day before you bought it, the company change the chipset.
[21:53] <bekks> t-ubuntu: The review is irrelevant to us.
[21:54] <daftykins> Casey: before the system starts to boot the OS, hold down left shift. you should get a menu, which will show multiple kernel entries. try the one that isn't already highlighted when this happens, you'll be able to see different version numbers
[21:54] <t-ubuntu> then why is it detecting my network and asking for its authentication if the computer does not recognize the adapter?
[21:54] <bekks> t-ubuntu: Please pastebin the entire output of lsusb into a pastebin then.
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> t-ubuntu, http://www.amazon.com/AirLink101-AWLL6075-Wireless-Mini-Adapter/dp/B002RCKDEC "I ordered this based on reviews of a different version of the AirLink101. The numbers following ("AWLL6075") are important in determining compatibility. Turns out the model AWLL3026 works out of the box with modern Linux distributions. However, no driver has been written to support the AWLL6075."
[21:54] <Arkhana1> Casey: do you get it?
[21:55] <xubuntu479> Hey , who cen help me whit wireless antenna ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5941656/
[21:55] <t-ubuntu> bekks, did you see the update at the bottom of that review?
[21:55] <Casey> daftykins thanks, I'm guessing I'm looking for earlier versions, and just go down the list till I find which update screwied me?
[21:55] <bekks> t-ubuntu: I dont care about the review at all. I do not believe everything thats written on the web.
[21:56] <t-ubuntu> bekks, okay, lets forget about the review
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> !patience | xubuntu479
[21:56] <bekks> t-ubuntu: And as wilee-nilee just found out, there is no driver for your particular device. Go get another one.
[21:56] <Arkhana1> t-ubuntu: I do care
[21:57] <t-ubuntu> so you asked me to post the lsusb results
[21:57] <Arkhana1> A review is just a tiny approvement in this world
[21:57] <bekks> Arkhana1: And totally irrelevant, since we already know that his device isnt properly supported.
[21:58] <t-ubuntu> the problem is it is on my desktop, without internet connection, while i am currently on my laptop
[21:58] <ejv> help: http://dpaste.com/1328487/
[21:58] <ejv> ^
[21:58] <bekks> t-ubuntu: You have to buy another one, since your particular device isnt supported properly. We told you the same three times now :)
[21:59] <t-ubuntu> I understand, but why is it recognizing my network then?
[21:59] <bekks> t-ubuntu: Because it is not properly supported.
[21:59] <Arkhana1> T-ubuntu: Not properly, but it is
[22:00] <bekks> Arkhana1: Then you are free to support him now, if you think you can get his device up and running.
[22:00] <quibble42> wilee-nilee, no idea
[22:00] <Casey> daftykins Here is my results: I was on ubuntu 12.04 server LTS on kernel 3.5.0-36 when I moved back to the first previous kernel 3.5.0-23 I now have sound.
[22:00] <Arkhana1> bekks: No I don't meant it that way
[22:01] <t-ubuntu> wait
[22:01] <t-ubuntu> i just realized something
[22:01] <goddard> ubuntu pings the home servers twice when you boot up
[22:01] <t-ubuntu> it recognized the adapter under a different name
[22:01] <goddard> any idea why?
[22:02] <bekks> goddard: NTP, DNS?
[22:02] <goddard> i think one is some ntp stuff and landscape
[22:02] <daftykins> Casey: are you now booted into that working version?
[22:02] <Casey> daftykins yes
[22:02] <t-ubuntu> bekks, it recognized the chipset
[22:02] <goddard> shouldn't stuff be disabled until needed?
[22:02] <bekks> t-ubuntu: So which exact chipset do you have then?
[22:03] <Casey> daftykins I am currently on 3.5.0-23
[22:03] <daftykins> Casey: ok, i'm afraid the only ideas i have to look at what the difference may be will be quite basic, but certainly from here you can set that older version as your default to boot instead of the newer and thus keep it working
[22:03] <Arkhana1> Goddard: I guess not, they must be turned on
[22:03] <ejv> help: http://dpaste.com/1328487/
[22:03] <ejv> ^
[22:03] <Arkhana1> Don't know exactly why
[22:03] <Shadowandlight> any recommended backup utilities that does live incrementals with a gui?
[22:04] <bekks> !backup | Shadowandlight
[22:04] <MonkeyDust> ejv  state your issue, so we don't have to open that link
[22:04] <daftykins> Casey: have a look here for changing the default: http://askubuntu.com/questions/156700/how-to-set-default-boot-kernel-in-ubuntu-grub
[22:04] <ejv> seriously? lol
[22:04] <t-ubuntu> Realtek RTL8191SU 802.11 n WLAN adapter
[22:04] <ejv> ok dpkg fails, help: http://dpaste.com/1328487/
[22:04] <Casey> daftykins correct me if I am wrong, but does that mean I should not/cannot do anymore updates?
[22:05] <t-ubuntu> bekks, Realtek RTL8191SU 802.11 n WLAN adapter
[22:05] <Casey> daftykins that is if I want to keep sound working.
[22:05] <daftykins> Casey: it simply means you'd need to stick to that kernel
[22:05] <cmartin0_> where to I boot the bootloader on a system with three hdds raid-ed  together?
[22:05] <Arkhana1> Casey: The kernel is the deep core of an OS
[22:05] <daftykins> Casey: somebody more experienced might be able to identify the difference in those kernels that's causing the issue
[22:06] <bekks> !wireless
[22:06] <t-ubuntu> bekks, when i go under the subsection of that realtek adapter, my airlink adapter shows up
[22:06] <Arkhana1> Casey: you can boot from a live DVD, check if the sound works and then install
[22:06] <bekks> t-ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsRealTek -- I dont think your adapter is supported properly.
[22:07] <Casey> Arkhana1 you mean the things I eat durring a movie are inside my computer?! O.0
[22:07] <Arkhana1> Bekks: Realtek is only a driver, isn't it?
[22:07] <bekks> Arkhana1: No. Its a manufacturer of wifi chipsets.
[22:08] <quibble42> Hi, question, umm, so I have a Lexar 16gb "twist turn" usb drive, and "sudo fdisk -l" doesn't register it, but "lsusb" does, and I don't know how to mount it so that I can throw some files in there
[22:08] <Arkhana1> Casey: I don't know what YOU eat during a movie...
[22:08] <Casey> beeks Arkhana1 they also make sound chipsets too.
[22:08] <bekks> Casey: Actually, they make a lot of crap ;)
[22:08] <daftykins> quibble42: sounds like it might include some kind of Windows encryption unlocker function if fdisk can't see it after plugging it in
[22:09] <Arkhana1> Quibble42: sudo -i
[22:09] <Casey> bekks  Crap is a good term for it :p
[22:09] <Arkhana1> Quibble42: mkdir /mount/usbstickie
[22:10] <daftykins> ejv: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5" ?
[22:10] <Arkhana1> Quibble42: mount /dev/sdxy /mount/usbstickie
[22:10] <quibble42> Arkhana1, "cannot create directory, no such directory"
[22:10] <t-ubuntu> I found a zip file for it
[22:10] <quibble42> oh
[22:10] <Arkhana1> Quibble42: ls /
[22:11] <t-ubuntu> How do I get the Synaptic
[22:11] <quibble42> Arkana1, ?
[22:11] <bekks> t-ubuntu: Install it.
[22:11] <t-ubuntu> Can I get synaptic on a computer w/o internet ?
[22:11] <t-ubuntu> and it does not come preinstalled ?
[22:11] <bekks> t-ubuntu: No.
[22:11] <t-ubuntu> IS there any possible way
[22:11] <t-ubuntu> erm
[22:11] <jrib> t-ubuntu: why do you want it?
[22:11] <Arkhana1> Quibble42: That was't really neseccary
[22:12] <quibble42> Arkhana1, "mkdir ls /mount/usbstickie" mkdir: cannot create directory `/mount/usbstickie': No such file or directory
[22:12] <quibble42> Arkana1, same without the ls*
[22:12] <t-ubuntu> Ok I found a realtek linux zip folder that Realtek gives for this adapter
[22:12] <Arkhana1> Quibble42: mkdir /home/usbstickie
[22:12] <t-ubuntu> so I copied it via USB
[22:12] <t-ubuntu> and have unzipped it
[22:12] <t-ubuntu> so im trying to install the driver
[22:12] <bekks> quibble42: "sudo mkdir /mnt/usbstick; sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt/usbstick"
[22:12] <t-ubuntu> what do I do?
[22:12] <FloodBot1> t-ubuntu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:12] <Arkhana1> Ls is a command
[22:13] <t-ubuntu> sorry thats my friend trying to help me...
[22:13] <bekks> Arkhana1: Ls isnt a command, ls is.
[22:13] <Dr_willis> auto correct :0
[22:13] <t-ubuntu>  bekks how do I extract and install this driver without synaptic
[22:14] <quibble42> bekks, I get this : "mount: special device /dev/sdXY does not exist"
[22:14] <Arkhana> Quibble: df -h
[22:14] <bekks> t-ubuntu: I have no clue, what you downloaded from where and why. And I guess there was some kind of documentation on what to do, where you downloaded it from.
[22:14] <Arkhana> Enter that command
[22:14] <quibble42> Arkhana1 = The mkdir just puts me to another $ entry thing, without information
[22:14] <bekks> quibble42: Replace sdXY with the correct block device.
[22:14] <Dr_willis> quibble42,  you did replace 'xy' with the proper  info for that device?
[22:14] <t-ubuntu> bekks, may I include a link, :http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&ProdID=229&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[22:15] <Dr_willis> quibble42,  mkdir foo -> dosent return anything. if it succedes.
[22:15] <quibble42> bekks, Dr_willis, where do I find info
[22:15] <Dr_willis> quibble42,  'sudo blkid' is one way
[22:15] <t-ubuntu> nonetheless, how do I install a driver with terminal?
[22:16] <quibble42> Dr_willis - I can also use fdisk -l, but how do I know which one is the usb stick?
[22:16] <Dr_willis> t-ubuntu,  if its 'source' code. you will need to compile it.
[22:16] <bekks> t-ubuntu: They do provide a documentation.
[22:16] <Dr_willis> quibble42,  see what sizes the paritons is..
[22:16] <Arkhana> Quibble42: At the end of the 'df -h' command, you see your USB stick
[22:16] <Dr_willis> quibble42,  or look at the filesystem label.
[22:16] <Casey> what is the difference between lines 1 and 2?
[22:17] <quibble42> Arkhana, Dr_willis, arkana, it is a dev/sda3, so cool, we found it
[22:17] <daftykins> Casey: how do you mean?
[22:17] <Arkhana> Do you understand all these commands, quibble42?
[22:17] <Casey> what is the difference between lines 1 and 2? I am trying to select an older kernel to boot too** sorry for double post
[22:17] <quibble42> Arkhana, more or less, google is helping
[22:17] <Casey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5941741/
[22:17] <Arkhana> Sda3 is your hard disk
[22:17] <Casey> ahh, dang it, I keep forgetting to finish my post :p sorry
[22:17] <daftykins> Casey: they're different components of the kernel boot process
[22:17] <t-ubuntu> okay, Dr_willis , how do I know if its source code
[22:18] <quibble42> Arkhana, it claims sda3 has 16GB, so.. umm.. what
[22:18] <Arkhana> How many storage media do you have plugged in your CD?
[22:18] <quibble42> Arkhana *nevermind
[22:18] <Arkhana> I meant computer
[22:19] <Arkhana> Quibble42: I meant PC
[22:19] <quibble42> Arkhana: not sure but it's not sda3 I made a mistake
[22:19] <Casey> daftykins which is the proper one to boot to? when I was selecting from the menu screen (during boot) I had the option of the 3.5.0-23  and .23 recovery. Is one of those two (refering to pastebin line one and two) the recovery and the other normal boot?
[22:19] <quibble42> Arkhana: Here is the information I got: /dev/sda6       209G   39G  160G  20% / udev            3.9G  8.0K  3.9G   1% /dev tmpfs           1.6G  980K  1.6G   1% /run none            5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock none            3.9G  2.3M  3.9G   1% /run/shm /dev/sda3       232G   16G  217G   7% /media/OS
[22:19] <Arkhana> Quibble42: sda3 is your hard disk
[22:19] <quibble42> ok
[22:19] <daftykins> Casey: no, they're part of the same kernel. i'm not sure where you pasted that from - it looks like an upgrade output
[22:20] <bekks> Arkhana: sda3 is a partition, sda is the harddisk.
[22:20] <t-ubuntu> Can I put synaptic on a USB and install it?
[22:20] <t-ubuntu> is there any way I could do that ?
[22:20] <bekks> t-ubuntu: You dont need it for what you want to do.
[22:20] <Arkhana> Bekks: I know, but I just wanted to keep it simple
[22:20] <Casey> daftykins    sudo update-grub   is where I got it from
[22:21] <t-ubuntu> bekks,  Im confused on how i should approach this ? Can you tell me what i should do bekks  ?
[22:21] <Arkhana> Quibble42: df --help
[22:21] <Casey> daftykins I am following the link you sent me. I am between step one and step two
[22:21] <ejv> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mysql-server-5.5 is broken or not fully installed - this really shouldn't be happening on LTS, this is just... facepalm territory
[22:21] <bekks> t-ubuntu: First, you have to read the documentation of the file you downloaded.
[22:21] <Arkhana> I did it today and in the help file stood some useful stuff
[22:21] <ejv> suggestions?
[22:21] <t-ubuntu> ok
[22:21] <daftykins> Casey: can you pastebin the put of "ls /boot" please? you should be looking to edit /etc/default/grub right now
[22:22] <t-ubuntu> ok bekks  I'm reading it
[22:22] <t-ubuntu> welll my freind is
[22:22] <jrib> ejv: start by pasting full input, pull output, and giving context and background.
[22:22] <jrib> ejv: s/pull/full
[22:22] <ejv> jrib: I have been, man i feel like my mic isn't on today
[22:22] <Arkhana> Quibble42: Copy paste all the output in this channel
[22:22] <jrib> ejv: you must assume 0-line memory on irc until we you start addressing someone ;)
[22:22] <ejv> jrib: http://dpaste.com/1328487/ trying to get this bloody thing installed/updated; someone suggested dpkg-reconfigure, that failed
[22:23] <quibble42> Arkhana:Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda6       209G   39G  160G  20% / udev            3.9G  4.0K  3.9G   1% /dev tmpfs           1.6G  980K  1.6G   1% /run none            5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock none            3.9G  2.3M  3.9G   1% /run/shm /dev/sda3       232G   16G  217G   7% /media/OS root@johncomp:~# sudo blkid /dev/sda1: UUID="8E87-1BC8" TYPE="vfat"  /dev/sda2: LABEL="RECOVERY" UUID="68048
[22:23] <quibble42> too large
[22:23] <quibble42> hold on
[22:23] <jrib> ejv: any relevant background/context?
[22:23] <ejv> i had mysql working before this update, now it doesn't work
[22:23] <Casey> daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/5941771/
[22:23] <ejv> all i did was the standard apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[22:23] <t-ubuntu> Im trying to do install.sh as the documentation is showing me bekks  . Install.sh isnt working ?
[22:24] <daftykins> ejv: paste the output from the dpkg-reconfigure i suggested
[22:24] <ejv> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mysql-server-5.5 is broken or not fully installed
[22:24] <osubuntu> What are these FloodBots?
[22:24] <t-ubuntu> bekks, may I include a link, :http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&ProdID=229&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[22:24] <ejv> that was it
[22:24] <t-ubuntu> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&ProdID=229&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[22:24] <daftykins> Casey: yeah you can't quite do his 'answer' straight off though, as he'd done part of the process himself already
[22:24] <ejv> here i'll paste, lol, http://dpaste.com/1328509/
[22:24] <Arkhana> Quibble42: Don't you have sdb1?
[22:24] <quibble42> Arkhana :: /dev/sda6  ext4  (1k blocks:) 218696572 (Used:) 40298192 (avail:) 167289160 (Use%) 20% (Mounted on) /
[22:24] <t-ubuntu> try to open this file, im having a difficult time following the documentation]'
[22:25] <quibble42> Arkhana - nope
[22:25] <Casey> daftykins    :-/ lovely...
[22:25] <bekks> t-ubuntu: install.sh is different from Install.sh - and if it isnt working as the documentation states, please refer to the support of the manufacturer of the file you downloaded.
[22:25] <Arkhana> Osubuntu: If you drop a lot of text at this channel in short time, it's called flooding
[22:25] <daftykins> Casey: ok so you see there is -23 -36 and -37 installed. you'll want to edit /etc/default/grub 's line "default 0" to be "default 4"
[22:25] <jrib> ejv: « apt-cache policy mysql-server mysql-server-5.5 »  Also pastebin contents of /var/log/mysql* (I don't know the name offhand).  Also output of « ps -ef | grep mysql »
[22:25] <Arkhana> That's annoying
[22:26] <t-ubuntu> can i ask for a favor and could you look at the documentation provided in the file
[22:26] <Casey> daftykins thats what I was thinking, but I wasnt sure if it was 4 or 5   thanks for the clarification
[22:26] <bekks> t-ubuntu: If it isnt working as expected, please refer to the Realtek support. They do ship that file, they do know what to do.
[22:27] <quibble42> Arkhana: I use'd fdisk -l, and it gives me 6 different sda's, but no sdb.
[22:27] <Arkhana> Quibble: What kind of filesystem does sda3 have?
[22:27] <daftykins> Casey: yeah there should be 2 entries for each kernel, it itself and its' recovery mode
[22:27] <osubuntu> oh no sudo apt-get install ia32-libs too slow
[22:27] <quibble42> Arkhana: not sure if this is the filesystem, but HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[22:27] <jrib> osubuntu: did you forget to sacrifice the goat?
[22:27] <Arkhana> Sda6?
[22:27] <Casey> daftykins well, going to reboot. Lets see what happens..... ;)
[22:27] <bekks> quibble42: Thats the partition type, and has nothing to do with the actual filesystem.
[22:27] <t-ubuntu> bekks, could you look at the documentation
[22:27] <osubuntu> jrib, lol it finished just now
[22:28] <jrib> osubuntu: the goat heard us
[22:28] <bekks> t-ubuntu: Sorry, I'm not the Realtek support.
[22:28] <t-ubuntu> erm hmmm
[22:28] <Dr_willis> askubuntu.com may have some guides on the topic also t-ubuntu
[22:28] <osubuntu> jrib, plz see the privmsg
[22:28] <Arkhana> Quibble: And sda6?
[22:29] <quibble42> sorry*
[22:30] <osubuntu> Is there any way to reinstall all of a package's dependencies?
[22:30] <quibble42> it just says Linux
[22:30] <quibble42> Arkhana : It just says linux
[22:30] <quibble42> bekks, how do I see the filesystem
[22:30] <Arkhana> Then I guess there's no hope
[22:30] <quibble42> Arkhana, I might be giving you the wrong info
[22:30] <quibble42> woahkay
[22:31] <osubuntu> Even though i installed all codecs, ubuntu-restricted-*, multiarch-support, ia32-libs, and build-essential,
[22:31] <ejv> jrib: apt-cache : http://dpaste.com/1328511/ ; /var/log/mysql/error.log : http://dpaste.com/1328520/ ; ps -ef mysql : empty.
[22:31] <geri> how can i open wireshark from a bash script? i always get this error: (wireshark:10173): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[22:31] <jrib> ejv: for the record, you mean "ps -ef | grep mysql" with the pipe?
[22:31] <osubuntu> it says GStreamer-WARNING **: Failed to load plugins '/usr/ilb/gstreamer-0.10/*.so': wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[22:32] <Dr_willis> geri,  run the script in an X session? it cant connect to your X server.
[22:32] <bekks> quibble42: sudo blkid -g; sudo blkid
[22:32] <osubuntu> askubuntu.com does not respond to my problem
[22:32] <geri> Dr_willis: i run the script in the terminal
[22:32] <osubuntu> it has been for 1 month
[22:32] <jrib> ejv: so do you have some sort of custom configuration for mysql?
[22:32] <Dr_willis> geri,  and how exactly are you launching it?  does it need root access?
[22:32] <geri> yes
[22:32] <geri> sudo wireshark
[22:32] <quibble42> bekks: Can you make sense of this ? :::$ sudo blkid -g john@johncomp:~$ sudo blkid /dev/sda1: UUID="8E87-1BC8" TYPE="vfat"  /dev/sda2: LABEL="RECOVERY" UUID="68048ACC048A9D26" TYPE="ntfs"  /dev/sda3: LABEL="OS" UUID="88768EB5768EA412" TYPE="ntfs"  /dev/sda5: UUID="1d88a371-cebd-4d32-a719-a64db9f93354" TYPE="swap"  /dev/sda6: UUID="ccad22a8-fc30-4199-8941-e708811d5e54" TYPE="ext4"
[22:33] <Dr_willis> geri,  use gksudo for GUI apps.
[22:33] <bekks> quibble42: USe a pastebin.
[22:33] <osubuntu> gksudo nautilus!
[22:33] <geri> Dr_willis: why?
[22:33] <Dr_willis> geri,  because thats what its JOB is..
[22:33] <daftykins> geri: safer
[22:33] <quibble42> bekks: pastebin isn't a command
[22:33] <bekks> geri: because sudo does not transfer the environment of X.
[22:33] <Ben64> t-ubuntu: are you sure you need to install a driver? it seems its included already
[22:33] <osubuntu> geri: gksudo works well for gtk apps!
[22:33] <Dr_willis> sudo for none gui.
[22:33] <Dr_willis> gksudo for GUI
[22:33] <ejv> jrib: indeed, no processes related to mysql running
[22:33] <iampoz> Hello, I am planing on creating a partition on my hard drive that contains ubuntu 12.04 with gpart. Could this damage the os? Is it easy to unpartition, ie put the two back together again?
[22:33] <bekks> quibble42: I know. But it is a well know term for millions of "pastebin services" all over the internet.
[22:34] <bekks> !pastebinit | quibble42
[22:34] <jrib> ejv: 2nd question (please answer both): did you install anything mysql related without using the official repositories?  Perhaps, with a different repository, a .deb, running a script, or even copying manually? Finally, same question but with "mysql related" omitted
[22:34] <ejv> jrib: the only "change" with my mysql config is that the data dir is different than /var/lib/mysql; that's it basically, i've updated mysql several times in the past and never had this happen
[22:34] <osubuntu> however sudo often works well for GUI, and gksudo works well for none-GUI
[22:34] <osubuntu> :P
[22:34] <bekks> osubuntu: However that approach is wrong :)
[22:34] <osubuntu> but use gksudo for GUI and sudo for non-GUI it is safe
[22:34] <ejv> jrib: only ever used the repos, apt alerted me that a mysql update was available, proceeded with it
[22:34] <quibble42> bekks: okay, I see, hold on
[22:35] <osubuntu> rm -rfv ~/trash
[22:35] <osubuntu> :P
[22:35] <jrib> ejv: you see the log you pastebinned?  It refers to files like ./mysql/db.frm. Does that mean anything to you?
[22:35] <quibble42> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5941815/
[22:35] <ejv> jrib: not at all :\
[22:35] <osubuntu> Why is there  GStreamer-WARNING **: Failed to load plugin '/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgnl.so': /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgnl.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[22:35] <bekks> quibble42: So your sda3 is NTFS.
[22:35] <geri> gerald@ubuntu:/opt$ gksudo wireshark  (gksudo:11274): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[22:36] <geri> hm?
[22:36] <osubuntu> hey
[22:36] <quibble42> bekks: Okay
[22:36] <osubuntu> set DISPLAY var
[22:36] <Ben64> osubuntu: you're trying to run something for 64bit cpus on a 32bit OS
[22:36] <jrib> ejv: alright, do « locate ibdata1 » and see if anything comes up.  Do the same with db.frm and plugin.frm.
[22:36] <ejv> the mysql data dir appears intact, anyway i can just tear mysql down and start over?
[22:37] <quibble42> bekks: I think the usb might require downloadable drivers but it doesnt have an option for linux
[22:37] <osubuntu> Ben64, but it worked but it started to break when I installed cheese :(
[22:37] <geri> http://codepaste.net/ycizg2
[22:37] <ejv> i mean i've already have an outage, so... customer aint getting less angry haha
[22:37] <osubuntu> 2 butters! :P
[22:37] <Ben64> osubuntu: no idea what you're talking about
[22:37] <bekks> quibble42: huh?
[22:37] <quibble42> bekks: the usb i'm trying to find
[22:37] <checoimg> Hi
[22:37] <bekks> quibble42: How is that related to "which filesystem is on sda3"?
[22:37] <osubuntu> Uhh, hope I'm not stupid enough to tell to a bot....
[22:37] <quibble42> bekks: Arkhana asked before he left
[22:37] <checoimg> I want to set Asunder to open when a Music CD is inserted
[22:38] <osubuntu> is Be_64 a bot?
[22:38] <quibble42> bekks: he was helping me
[22:38] <sasha|> Yop
[22:38] <Ben65_> osubuntu: no
[22:38] <quibble42> bekks: trying to find the sbd instead of the sba
[22:38] <sasha|> Can someone tell me if this would work? http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/9632/show-udid-of-iphone
[22:38] <sasha|> particularly in iOS 6
[22:38] <ejv> jrib: i did a locate on all 3, nothing found.
[22:38] <sasha|> *with
[22:38] <ejv> lemme updatedb just to be sure
[22:38] <bekks> quibble42: Pull the USB, wait 10 seconds, plug it back in, wait 10s, and pastebin the output of dmesg
[22:38] <ejv> yup nothing
[22:39] <jrib> ejv: there's some similar discussion here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.5/+bug/973951
[22:39] <checoimg> How can I set Asunder to open when a Music CD is inserted
[22:39] <ejv> wonderful...
[22:39]  * ejv captain picard facepalm
[22:39] <geri> why cant gksudo start wireshark? http://codepaste.net/ycizg2
[22:39] <jrib> ejv: I would'n do anything in there just yet, but it may provide some info
[22:39] <bekks> geri: Because you are trying to use a 64bit version on a 32bit system.
[22:39] <osubuntu> geri, wrong installation?
[22:40] <ejv> why isn't it labeled Urgent?
[22:40] <ejv> i mean this is a big deal...
[22:40] <checoimg> How can I set Asunder to open when a Music CD is inserted ?
[22:40] <geri> bekks: i have ubuntu 64 bit
[22:40] <osubuntu> argh!
[22:40] <Ben64> geri: you have something set wrong, are you SSH'd in or something?
[22:40] <osubuntu> multiarch-support is VERY broken!
[22:40] <geri> Ben64: no ssh
[22:40] <bekks> osubuntu: Works perfectly here.
[22:40] <quibble42> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5941828/
[22:40] <quibble42> bekks http://paste.ubuntu.com/5941828/
[22:41] <daftykins> geri: run it from the dash or a run dialogue instead of where you're trying to do it from
[22:41] <Ben64> geri: try "DISPLAY=:0 gksudo wireshark"
[22:41] <jrib> ejv: what's inside /var/lib/mysql ?  Pastebin ls -R /var/lib/mysql
[22:41] <bekks> quibble42: And whats the output of "sudo fdisk -l" now?
[22:41] <jrib> ejv: actually, make that -Rl
[22:41] <geri> Ben64: that work
[22:41] <geri> Ben64: that works...what does it mean?
[22:41] <geri> hm
[22:41] <quibble42> bekks same
[22:42] <osubuntu> btw what is difference between /dev/console and /dev/tty ?
[22:42] <Ben64> geri: your display variable is not being set correctly
[22:42] <bekks> quibble42: "Same" is not the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[22:42] <quibble42> bekks one second
[22:42] <ejv> jrib: http://dpaste.com/1328533/
[22:42] <ejv> jrib: but remember, in my my.cnf, i've reassigned the data dir to another folder on a different partition
[22:42] <quibble42> bekks http://paste.ubuntu.com/5941832/
[22:43] <checoimg> How can I set a program to open when a Music CD is inserted ?
[22:43] <bekks> quibble42: Looks like your ISB is broken then.
[22:43] <quibble42> bekks meaning?
[22:43] <bekks> quibble42: You usb device is broken. Get another one.
[22:43] <jrib> ejv: interesting, can you just pastebin that for reference
[22:44] <osubuntu> why is /dev/sda a file?
[22:44] <osubuntu> with binary contents
[22:45] <osubuntu> is it content of a disk?
[22:45] <Artemis3> yes indeed :3
[22:45] <quibble42> bekks yayyyy
[22:45] <quibble42> bekks thakns
[22:45] <quibble42> thanks*
[22:45] <quibble42> :)
[22:45] <FloodBot1> quibble42: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:45] <osubuntu> ahhh
[22:45] <osubuntu> thanks = flood hahahaha
[22:46] <geri> Ben64: how can i set it correctly and where?
[22:46] <ejv> jrib: http://dpaste.com/1328543/
[22:47] <Ben64> geri: it should do it automatically, don't know why it isn't
[22:47] <jrib> ejv: one second (rl calls)
[22:47] <geri> Ben64: what can i do now? check xconfig?
[22:47] <ejv> jrib: np, im reading the launchpad
[22:49] <osubuntu> doing sth while apt-get update is good because apt-get update is slow
[22:49] <Shadowandlight> im trying out rsnapshot as a backup tool, what directories should i tell it to backup>?
[22:50] <bekks> Shadowandlight: Everything you want to be restored.
[22:50] <Prock81> EMERNGCY, im on 12.04 , i tried installing grub2, things went wacko, failed, tried putting grub back, fail, purge anything grub related and install grub, fail, i need a Boot Loader / Grub GURU !!!
[22:50] <osubuntu> 12.04 means precise? xD
[22:51] <Prock81> im for help, easier to chat for long coversation instrustions so they dont scrool away
[22:51] <wilee-nilee> Prock81, If you used the boot repair app post the genrated url.
[22:51] <Prock81> im on the live cd on my failed machine
[22:51] <osubuntu> Emerngcy! not emergency! :p
[22:51] <Shadowandlight> bekks: i would honestly like an entire copy of the whole OS + all files backed up...
[22:52] <Prock81> wilee-nilee i read about the ppa for boot-repair, that has hung for around an hour
[22:52] <wilee-nilee> Prock81, Install this on the live cd, and run just the bootinfo summary and post the url. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:52] <SuRfDaEmOn> Shadowandlight: live the dream
[22:53] <wilee-nilee> Prock81, You ran it and it hung?
[22:53] <Prock81> yes
[22:53] <Ben64> osubuntu: please don't add commentary
[22:53] <wilee-nilee> Prock81, Sounds like partitions not mounting, any back on this?
[22:53] <Prock81> sitting there with a bar going back and forth
[22:53] <geri> Ben64: what can i do now? check xconfig?
[22:54] <Prock81> what u mean back on this? do i need to chroot
[22:54] <Ben64> geri: how are you opening a terminal
[22:54] <wilee-nilee> Prock81, history
[22:54] <flipper88_fl> geri: ctrl +alt + f1
[22:54] <jarray52> How does one move the side bar in Ubuntu to a different monitor?
[22:54] <Prock81> u wnat to see my history?
[22:54] <Prock81> !paste
[22:54] <jrib> ejv: ok back, reading scrollback now
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> Prock81, Can you access any of the partitions by clicking on them? If you open gparted do any show an error flag?
[22:55] <jrib> ejv: permissions seem sane.  What's your current /etc/init/mysql.conf look like?
[22:55] <Prock81> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5941864/
[22:56] <Prock81> no error flags in gparted
[22:57] <Prock81> i can do mount /dev/sda2 /mnt and that works
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> Prock81, using the terminal that way is a bad habit, use sudo.
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> Prock81, Is this a server?
[22:58] <Prock81> desktop
[22:58] <Prock81> laptop
[22:58] <Prock81> 12.04 on ly laptop
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> Prock81, Take a screenhot of gaprted and imagebin it.
[22:59] <Prock81> !imagebin
[23:00] <ejv> jrib: pretty normal: http://dpaste.com/1328557/
[23:00] <jrib> ejv: yep, we're just gonna call it directly to see if we get something back in terms of output
[23:01] <Prock81> wilee-nilee http://imagebin.org/266354
[23:01] <geri> flipper88_fl: ?
[23:01] <geri> Ben64 i start it from the gui
[23:01] <geri> in ubuntu
[23:02] <jrib> ejv: it could be an apparmor issue, I saw that mentioned in the bug comments
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> Prock81, This computer that had W8 at one time?
[23:02] <Prock81> win 7
[23:03] <Prock81> it demands the efi or what ever
[23:03] <glider77> hello
[23:03] <Prock81> i cant seem to work around it
[23:03] <Ben64> geri: well i'm not sure what would cause that variable to not get set
[23:03] <jrib> ejv: for now I would suggest running "sudo /usr/sbin/mysqld" and seeing what happens.  I see nothing in this script that has mysqld being executed as the mysql user so presumably mysql should drop privileges once it is started.  I don't see anything problematic security-wise from doing this but if you are paranoid you may want to ensure you have a firewall up preventing mysql from serving up to the world
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> Prock81, Yeah, out of my area, and about the most important part of posting.
[23:03] <geri> Ben64: reboot?
[23:04] <jrib> ejv: (mysql should only bind to localhost by default as well)
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> Prock81, I would use the ubuntu forums for this, the best help on uefi is there.
[23:04] <Prock81> my eror on reboot is "error: file not found." and on next line is "grub rescue>" no quotes
[23:05] <Prock81> no other advice
[23:05] <Prock81> ?
[23:05] <Prock81> cna u give direct link
[23:06] <osubuntu> Ubuntu forums was down but not now :)
[23:06] <jrib> ejv: by the way, what's the output of 'ls -ld /path/mysql/'?
[23:06] <Prock81> how u know uefi is an issue
[23:06] <daftykins> Prock81: i would recommend you delete every partition so the disk is blank, boot Ubuntu in EFI mode again, then tell it to clean install
[23:07] <Prock81> i cant afford a format
[23:07] <Prock81> or i fould have
[23:07] <juo> if I regenerate my SSH host keys will it effect my SSH key pair authentication setups
[23:07] <jrib> ejv: oh this is good, I see ibdata1 that was in your log in your paste with ls -Rl /path/mysql.  So at least we are looking in the right place
[23:07] <wilee-nilee> Prock81, The author of this thread is the help you want, don't pm them post and they will stop by m-f http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[23:07] <Prock81> m-f?
[23:08] <daftykins> Prock81: 'can't afford' ?
[23:08] <wilee-nilee> Prock81, monday through fridat you still have a fat32 partition, and al uefi's are a problem.
[23:08] <Prock81> no external back ups, and stuff i cant lose
[23:08] <jrib> ejv: add another to your queue: pastebin /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld
[23:08]  * jrib launches 3 ejv threads
[23:09] <daftykins> Prock81: how did you get all your data onto it before it even successfully booted?
[23:09] <lenovo`> guys, I am having a problem with matlab, seems slow in linux while faster in widows. I think the swap is the problems.,
[23:09] <lenovo`> swapon -s
[23:09] <lenovo`> Filename				Type		Size	Used	Priority
[23:09] <lenovo`> /dev/sda5                               partition	8321020	14396	-1
[23:09] <wilee-nilee> Prock81, Not a good methodology, always have your feathers numbered.
[23:09] <lenovo`> so you can see the swap is used even when the machine is idle
[23:10] <Prock81> over time, and im working on a project to run windows in the ram, put a lot into it
[23:11] <jrib> ejv: i will keep throwing ideas at you so I don't forget them :)  I think apparmor may be the best avenue to pursuit first though.  When we run out of ideas we can try: find /path/mysql ! -user mysql
[23:13] <glider77> ping
[23:15] <t-ubuntu> hi
[23:15] <tripelb> WiFi adaptor with OK range works with ubuntu?
[23:16] <tripelb> How do I see my win partitions 12.04 no WiFi.
[23:17] <tripelb> t-ubuntu:  just ask. No chatting here. That is on #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> tripelb, Did you install ubuntu from windows a wubi?
[23:18] <t-ubuntu> ok
[23:21] <Prock81> when run boot-repair from unity it doesnt lock up, when run from terminal it does lock up, wtfh
[23:22] <Prock81> its geeting it done i think
[23:22] <holstein> Prock81: it?
[23:22] <holstein> Prock81: unity is just the UI.. what are you trying to do?
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> Prock81, Stop ROOTING THE TERMINAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:22] <Prock81> ok, how did that mess with it thow!!!???
[23:23] <holstein> Prock81: i would do this from a live CD https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[23:23] <Prock81> i learn that lession as of now
[23:23] <holstein> Prock81: it?
[23:23] <Prock81> im on the live cd
[23:23] <Prock81> it what?\
[23:23] <wilee-nilee> Prock81, Ubuntu is not designed to always use in a rooted terminal it is a stupid move.
[23:23] <holstein> Prock81: i dont konw what "it" is friend
[23:23] <tripelb> Never seen it so quiet. My connection?
[23:23] <iBurley> Hey guys, I'm having some trouble with Ubuntu 12.04 on an old dell laptop. Whenever I try and enable the broadcom sta drivers, through gui or command line, the whole system drops to a black screen with text down the side that means nothing to me. Any ideas?
[23:23] <Prock81> what did i say
[23:24] <holstein> iBurley: i would test that the hardware is functional. i would try other drivers if they are available
[23:24] <holstein> !broadcom
[23:24] <Prock81> it? as in boot-repair
[23:25] <Prock81>  holstein^ it=boot-repair
[23:25] <holstein> Prock81: what exactly is boot repair doing? not completing?
[23:26] <tripelb> Have virgin 12.04 with no net. How do I see the windows partitions?
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> holstein, Just for info they have a uefi computer and only retain the fat32 from it.
[23:26] <iBurley> Hmm...Perhaps the driver install process isn't my issue. It just went to that same screen after a reboot, without trying to do anything. Is this something that happens when Ubuntu runs out of memory or something?
[23:26] <Prock81> when i was root in a terminal (sudo su) on the 12.04 live cd, boot-repair hung, but when i use Dash Home, it did not hang
[23:27] <Prock81>  holstein^
[23:27] <ejv> jrib: ok thanks, at work, trying to balance everything
[23:27] <Prock81> so i learn a lesson
[23:27] <holstein> Prock81: did you follow the instructions at the link? i usually run the gui and it "just works".. what errors? any?
[23:28] <t-ubuntu> i have ubuntu 12.04 lts and do not have synpatic, is there any way to install it?
[23:28] <wilee-nilee> Prock81, You would use sudo -i but it is not hardly ever needed.
[23:28] <t-ubuntu> any help
[23:28] <Prock81> error as sitting there for about an hour with a bar sliding back and forth, but when ran from dash, it didnt take 5 sec to goto the next screen/ step,
[23:28] <holstein> t-ubuntu: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[23:29] <Prock81> whats sudo -i
[23:29] <t-ubuntu> holstein, i dont have internet
[23:29] <Prock81> same as gksu?
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> Prock81, The correct command to root the terminal
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> in ubuntu
[23:29] <Prock81> oh
[23:29] <holstein> t-ubuntu: how are you communicating with me?
[23:29] <t-ubuntu> another laptop
[23:30] <t-ubuntu> im talking about my desktop
[23:30] <holstein> t-ubuntu: on whatever network you are communicating with me, you can download the .deb's.. and resolve the dependencies manually
[23:30] <t-ubuntu> where do I download it and how do I install the .deb
[23:30] <t-ubuntu> sorry i just got linux today and im a newbie
[23:30] <holstein> t-ubuntu: then, i would not do what you are trying to do
[23:31] <holstein> t-ubuntu: if you literlaly just installed, i would go to a machine with networking.. and do what is more "normal"
[23:31] <t-ubuntu> ?
[23:31] <holstein> t-ubuntu: what you are trying to do is not really "new user friendly"
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> Prock81, What i comes down to as far as rooting the terminal is you give permissions where not good, ubuntu has no root account, and no root password, it has its own voodoo design different than many other linux distr's
[23:31] <holstein> t-ubuntu: otherwise, you can install .deb's with the software center
[23:31] <t-ubuntu> could you give me the url
[23:32] <Prock81> voodoo! ?
[23:32] <holstein> t-ubuntu: what would i do? connect the network to the desktop, temporarily.. and install
[23:32] <holstein> t-ubuntu: you literally have no reason for a package manager if you are not doing package management
[23:32] <OerHeks> !offline
[23:33] <wilee-nilee> Prock81, I'm not a coder, and even if one wanted to explain it is a complex issue.
[23:33] <gol> wmfrjdnsdugod.
[23:33] <holstein> yeah. aptoncd is a nice option OerHeks
[23:33] <Prock81> !voodoo
[23:33] <holstein> Prock81: you can download that on the machine you are using. the CD
[23:33] <OerHeks> indeed, aptoncd would be my choice too.
[23:33] <holstein> Prock81: what are you looking for when you are typing "voodoo"?
[23:33] <Prock81> do what  holstein?
[23:34] <holstein> Prock81: what OerHeks suggested
[23:34] <t-ubuntu> holstein, i found a driver that may be helpful to make the network adapter work, and I need synaptic to install it
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> the definition I suspect
[23:34] <holstein> !offline | Prock81
[23:34] <Prock81> wilee mention voodoo lol
[23:34] <holstein> t-ubuntu: no likely.. you can install the driver with another package manager
[23:34] <holstein> t-ubuntu: you dont need synaptic to install what youy are trying to install
[23:34] <iBurley> This is what I'm getting, any ideas? http://i.imgur.com/c1P3jHw.jpg?1
[23:35] <vaskaloidis> Hey in what file do I configure my apache2 virtual hosts - I want different domains to access different folders on my server, which config file do I put the virtual hosts file in
[23:35] <holstein> iBurley: in what context?
[23:35] <t-ubuntu> holstein,  what do I do then?
[23:35] <holstein> t-ubuntu: what are you tying to do? support for what?
[23:35] <holstein> t-ubuntu: if you have a package, it will have installation instructions
[23:35] <iBurley> holstein, while using 12.04, it will just randomly go to this screen, I still have a cursor, but can't do anything
[23:36] <holstein> t-ubuntu: otherwise, aptoncd is a nice option
[23:36] <t-ubuntu> i know, when I look at the documentation, i can not understand it
[23:36] <holstein> iBurley: i would test hardware.. i would apply all upgrades. i would try an older kernel if up grades have seemed to have caused this
[23:36] <holstein> t-ubuntu: sure.. but just becuase you dont understand it doesnt mean synaptic is going to help
[23:37] <holstein> t-ubuntu: you can paste anything here in a pastebin.. or ask the maintainer of the package you downloaded for help
[23:37] <iBurley> holstein, it's a fresh install, worked fine with XP (bleh) but keeps doing this with 12.04.2
[23:37] <holstein> t-ubuntu: or, say "i have this particular chipset, and i need to install the driver"
[23:37] <iBurley> I'll try and update before it goes out
[23:37] <t-ubuntu> it has an install.hs
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> t-ubuntu, Wasn't the conclusion that this usb wont work, is this still the issue?
[23:37] <holstein> iBurley: you can do that via tty
[23:37] <holstein> !tty > iBurley
[23:37] <holstein> iBurley: sudo apt-get install && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:38] <t-ubuntu> wilee-nilee, i found a driver that may help
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> t-ubuntu, I doubt that it will, and do to your noob nature you are asking for more help without informimg people.That was a cheap usb get one that plugs and plays and stop misusing the channel and helpers.
[23:39] <jrib> ejv: alright, going to get some food, but I'd start with that apparmor file.  I'm almost certain you'll have to either disable apparmor or update the file so you can access your new location for mysql files
[23:39] <holstein> t-ubuntu: link what you found, friend.. or share what hardware you are tyring to support
[23:39] <holstein> !wireless > t-ubuntu
[23:40] <ejv> jrib: i'll let you know what i find
[23:40] <Freeder> Hi, this will be a little bit of a newb question, but- 'all the sudden' my email and ftp servers stopped responding to connections. I poked around, and I know my ftp server is controleld by inetd (or so I thought?) but I don't see it listed in the service command. how can I tell if/where inetd is running from?
[23:40] <jrib> ejv: if you figure it out, please update the bug
[23:40] <usr13> vaskaloidis: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[23:40] <holstein> Freeder: is your server running ubuntu? if it yours?
[23:41] <holstein> is it yours*
[23:41] <ejv> jrib: if i can remember my LP account credentials
[23:41] <vaskaloidis> thanks usr13 I will try that now
[23:42] <Freeder> holstein: yes and yes
[23:42] <Freeder> (this is #ubuntu, right? :P )
[23:42] <_jacob_> to install ubuntu on mac, do i create a "free space" partition, or do i need to use bootcamp?
[23:42] <usr13> Freeder: You'll find startup scripts in /etc/init.d/
[23:42] <Freeder> my ssh server is still running fine
[23:43] <Freeder> usr13: yes, and there is no inetd script there
[23:43] <_jacob_> what type of format do i use on mac to put the iso on?
[23:43] <wilee-nilee> !mac | _jacob_
[23:43] <usr13> Freeder: Did it get uninatalled?
[23:43] <usr13> Freeder: OR, did they get uninstalled?
[23:43] <_jacob_> thanks
[23:44] <t-ubuntu> /join ##english
[23:44] <t-ubuntu> oops
[23:45] <daniel11> how do I get my gnome toolbar to extend on to both my monitors?
[23:45] <Freeder> usr13, i know the popular refrain of 'nothing changed' doesnt mean much, but i swear its true :)
[23:45] <Freeder> just came home today and neither were working
[23:45] <usr13> Freeder: What ftp server did you have?
[23:46] <Freeder> proftpd
[23:46] <usr13> Freeder: sudo dpkg-reconfigure proftpd
[23:46] <usr13> Freeder: or:   sudo apt-get upgrade proftpd
[23:46] <Freeder> I'm more interested in finding inetd...
[23:47] <Freeder> thats what controls it
[23:47] <_jacob_> it only goes up to 2010 models?
[23:47] <_jacob_> 2011*
[23:47] <Freeder> how do I start inetd? I don't see anything in the init.d dir
[23:47] <_jacob_> !mac
[23:50] <MonkeyDust> Freeder  is this useful http://www.faqs.org/docs/securing/chap5sec36.html
[23:51] <usr13> Freeder: It is probably still running   ps aux |grep inetd
[23:51] <usr13> Freeder: See if it is       ^^^^^^
[23:52] <Freeder> it is
[23:52] <Freeder> so how do i restart it, w/o an init.d script?
[23:53] <usr13> Freeder: cat less /etc/inetd.conf
[23:53] <usr13> Freeder: cat or less /etc/inetd.conf
[23:53] <Freeder> right, but... that just edits the config. how can i restart the service?
[23:54] <usr13> Freeder: What did   sudo apt-get upgrade proftpd   do?  Anything?
[23:54] <Freeder> didn't run it, as I don't believe thats the problem- i'm trying to restart inetd first, which in turn restarts proftpd
[23:55] <Freeder> I only have done it with init.d scripts elsewhere, which I don't seem to have here
[23:59] <robby_> hello I have a command line question
[23:59] <daftykins> go fo rit
[23:59] <daftykins> with the space in the correct place...