[00:00] <Unit193> ...The snow man!
[00:00] <frosteeeeh> the blow man
[00:00] <frosteeeeh> blow as in coke....
[00:00] <frosteeeeh> not gay blow
[00:00] <frosteeeeh> lol
[00:00] <frosteeeeh> so im new to linux
[00:00] <frosteeeeh> xubuntu 13.04 is first os ive ran other than a windows os
[00:01] <frosteeeeh> what kind of cool shit can i do
[00:01] <frosteeeeh> im bored
[00:02] <knome> !ot | frosteeeeh
[00:02] <ubottu> frosteeeeh: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:02] <knome> frosteeeeh, and, please watch your language. this is a family-friendly channel.
[00:03] <Unit193> You can install games, or do whatever you'd do on a "normal" operating system.
[00:03] <frosteeeeh> oops. thanks unit193 lol
[00:50] <c2tarun> Hi friends, I use two cloud services for syncing data across my various devices. One is dropbox and Other is Ubuntu One. But these applications always running in background drain my laptop's battery. I want to schedule tasks that sometime on weekends (when I am safely at home's wi-fi) dropbox and ubuntu one automatically starts and do the necessary syncing. Can anyone please point me in the right direction from where to start?
[02:18] <fleshworm> bored
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[03:35] <darkblue_b> hi all - if I look at `uname -a` and see the kernal version.. and I do `dpkg-query --show` and I see a few other linux-image packages installed with other version numbers. is it safe to remove those other packages?
[03:36] <darkblue_b> is it what I think it might be.. just other kernals sitting there?  I am not facile with this, as you can tell
[03:36] <darkblue_b> I assume dpkg-query --show   is listing things that are installed...
[03:37] <lgc> Hi, how can I configure my laptop so it goes into suspend mode when I close the lid?
[04:06] <holstein> darkblue_b: i like to leave the last known good kernel
[04:07] <holstein> darkblue_b: also, look and see what size the kernels actually are.. to see if its worth bothering removing them
[07:21] <oxxxybananas> good morning
[07:21] <oxxxybananas> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-M9mrg-_oNl8/UH-qDsulHZI/AAAAAAAAK_4/xEge8znDB1w/s1600/xubuntu12.10-login-screen.png - which login manager use xubuntu?
[07:22] <oxxxybananas> i use xubuntu on my netbook and i want install this LM to my Arch on desktop
[07:26] <Unit193> Lightdm.
[07:26] <oxxxybananas> Unit193: thx :)
[07:28] <oxxxybananas> maybe anyone know which greeter uses xubuntu to lightdm?
[07:29] <Sysi> gtk
[07:29] <Sysi> and greybird(-lightdm) theme
[07:29] <oxxxybananas> Sysi: thx :)
[07:30] <oxxxybananas> best LM ever :)
[07:30] <Sysi> they're generally called DM (display manager)
[07:30] <oxxxybananas> oh, ok, best DM ever :)
[07:36] <Unit193> lightdm-gtk-greeter and Greybird theme, yep.  shimmer-themes in AUR, IIRC.
[07:46] <ynze> Goodday to all.
[07:47] <ynze> Since I have installed Xubuntu on my Eee pc, which is at home..
[07:47] <ynze> I like to know, what next is to do.
[07:48] <ynze> I am kown with linux, unix even AIX and 2 oter kinds.
[07:49] <ynze> All know at the dutch site of ubuntu...
[07:51] <ynze> I will take the tour!
[07:52] <ynze> Speak to you later.
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[08:12] <BillyZane> hi
[08:31] <knome> hello BillyZane
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[12:10] <qwertz__> hi! anyone familiar with samsung SSDs and disk encyrption?
[12:10] <baizon> qwertz_: well i encrypt using encfs
[12:10] <baizon> only some folders
[12:10] <qwertz__> will disk encryption in some way bind the SSD to the specific BIOS/laptop it's configured on?
[12:11] <qwertz__> baizon,  samsung pro SSDs have some hardware level encryption
[12:11] <qwertz__> i hope it's fully transparent to any software (including the OS)
[12:11] <baizon> qwertz_: not really, because /boot wont be encrypted
[12:11] <qwertz__> baizon,  are you sure?
[12:12] <baizon> qwertz_: you mean the hardware specific encryption?
[12:12] <qwertz__> as far as i understand (so far), anything on the disk is encrypted
[12:12] <qwertz__> baizon,  yes
[12:12] <Sysi> I think most new ssd:s have low level encryption, but encrypted filesystem is different
[12:13] <qwertz__> i just want the guy who'll steal my laptop in the future not to be able to extract any data from my SSD
[12:13] <Sysi> http://vxlabs.com/2012/12/22/ssds-with-usable-built-in-hardware-based-full-disk-encryption/
[12:14] <qwertz__> Sysi,  yep, already read that
[12:14] <qwertz__> the SSD in question is Samsung's 840 pro
[12:15] <qwertz__> Sysi,  even with that link, i do not understand on which level the encryption takes place
[12:16] <qwertz__> i want to hardware to take care of everything. i want to be able to plug the disk into another machine, use the same password and get access to my data.
[12:16] <qwertz__> i don't want speed penalties due to encryption
[12:16] <qwertz__> and i don't want to take care of anything besides setting a password i'm asked whenever i boot
[12:17] <bgardner> qwertz_: Encryption takes processing power, you sacrifice at least some speed no matter what.
[12:17] <baizon> qwertz_: http://smallbusiness.chron.com/samsung-ssd-encryption-work-39204.html
[12:17] <Sysi> that article says only intel has properly working low-level encryption, in any case crypto will mean performance decrease
[12:19] <qwertz__> baizon,  thanks for that link! that seems to be the resource i needed
[12:19] <baizon> np
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[12:20] <qwertz__> still leaves some questions unanswered
[12:20] <qwertz__> hm. will my SSD be tied to my laptop?
[12:20] <qwertz__> or will it work in any other machine, too?
[12:21] <qwertz__> (granted i provide the same password)
[12:22] <qwertz__> http://www1.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/filepool/projects/sed/seds-at-risks.pdf
[12:24] <xubuntu004> Hey , Unit193
[12:24] <xubuntu004> u here  ?
[12:57] <xubuntu004> cen anyone help
[12:57] <cfhowlett> xubuntu004, details ...
[12:57] <bgardner> xubuntu004: Ask away
[12:57] <xubuntu004> i installed xubuntu
[12:58] <xubuntu004> and my wireless antenna not working
[12:58] <xubuntu004> 06:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN [14e4:4311] (rev 01)
[12:58] <xubuntu004> i used this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx but its not help
[12:58] <xubuntu004> or i doing something wrong
[12:59] <cfhowlett> xubuntu004, which method did you use?  I use the STA no internet access method and I had wifi in 2 minutes without a reboot
[13:02] <xubuntu004> i used b43
[13:02] <xubuntu004> now i try that oder
[13:05] <xubuntu004> bomzas@bomzas-HP-G5000-GH972EA-ABU:~$ uname -r 3.8.0-27-generic bomzas@bomzas-HP-G5000-GH972EA-ABU:~$ dpkg --get-selections | grep headers linux-headers-3.8.0-19				install linux-headers-3.8.0-19-generic			install linux-headers-3.8.0-27				install linux-headers-3.8.0-27-generic			install linux-headers-generic				install bomzas@bomzas-HP-G5000-GH972EA-ABU:~$ cd /cdrom/pool/main/d/dkms bash: cd: /cdrom/pool/main/d/dkms: No such file 
[13:05] <xubuntu004> i put xubuntu instal disc , i wrrited it on dvd
[13:05] <cfhowlett> xubuntu004, right.  skip that file and keep going.
[13:05] <xubuntu004> disc
[13:06] <cfhowlett> xubuntu004, the install instructions were written for 10.04 and not updated to 12.04.  I've been told the missing files were rolled into a newer kernel.
[13:08] <xubuntu004> bomzas@bomzas-HP-G5000-GH972EA-ABU:~$ ^C bomzas@bomzas-HP-G5000-GH972EA-ABU:~$ cd /cdrom/pool/main/p/patch bash: cd: /cdrom/pool/main/p/patch: No such file or directory bomzas@bomzas-HP-G5000-GH972EA-ABU:~$ sudo dpkg -i patch* dpkg: error processing patch* (--install):  cannot access archive: No such file or directory Errors were encountered while processing:  patch* bomzas@bomzas-HP-G5000-GH972EA-ABU:~$ cd /cdrom/pool/main/f/faker
[13:10] <cfhowlett> xubuntu004, never seen that one before and it doesn't explain the error.  You alternative is to plug into the internet on a hardwire connection, run the additional drivers app under system and see if that triggers the installation
[13:11] <xubuntu004> i am not relly good in computers and dont know hot to do all that
[13:12] <xubuntu004> now i connected on wire internet
[13:13] <cfhowlett> look at Settings>Additional Drivers
[13:25] <xubuntu004> No propietary drivers in use
[13:26] <cfhowlett> xubuntu004, ask in #ubuntu channel
[13:26] <xubuntu004> Thanx for help
[13:27] <xubuntu004> and sorry for bad english
[13:27] <xubuntu004> : ]
[14:53] <SuperLag> Is there a way to create custom emblems for Thunar?
[15:16] <basiclaser> best ftp server program? im transferring to macbook using in-browser fireftp addon.
[15:22] <raytray> I like filezilla. Not sure about it being 'best' though
[15:22] <raytray> I'm also partial to scp.
[15:22] <TheSheep> I liked lftp
[15:23] <TheSheep> ah, server
[15:23] <TheSheep> sorry
[15:27] <koegs> vsftp is pretty simple
[16:01] <peyam> Hi
[16:02] <GridCube> !hi
[16:02] <ubottu> Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!
[16:02] <peyam> You know in gnome 3 when you put your mouse ponter in the corner of the screen you can see all windows.. is it possible in xfce?
[16:02] <peyam> !hi > GridCube
[16:02] <ubottu> GridCube, please see my private message
[16:02] <peyam> just trying :P
[16:03] <GridCube> its |
[16:03] <peyam> !hi | GridCube
[16:03] <ubottu> GridCube: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!
[16:03] <peyam> naaaajs
[16:03] <GridCube> !ubottu | peyam
[16:03] <ubottu> peyam: Hi! I'm #xubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots
[16:03] <GridCube> P:
[16:03] <peyam> so back to my quesion... is it possible?
[16:03] <GridCube> what so
[16:03] <GridCube> oh
[16:04] <GridCube> no thats not possible
[16:04] <peyam> bad
[16:04] <peyam> the only think I like with gnome
[16:04] <GridCube> not really
[16:04] <peyam> why?
[16:05] <GridCube> because its not programmed into the xfce desktop
[16:07] <peyam> why not?
[16:08] <peyam> cant I just install some plugin to do that?
[16:16] <peyam> GridCube, how many points do you get  with gmark2?
[16:21] <GridCube> i dont know
[16:22] <GridCube> im not using a linux computer atm
[16:23] <peyam> why not? :O shame on you
[16:27] <GridCube> peyam: http://code.google.com/p/superswitcher/
[16:28] <peyam> i wana use the mouse
[18:47] <spaceneedle> how do I create an .iso file from a dvd disc?
[18:47] <Vrifmus> Hi
[19:23] <pl2>  Hello. xubuntu is saving the window state that I leave open before shutting down. Those programs that are open then appear the next time I reboot. Is there any way to prevent this from happening?
[19:23] <holstein> pl2: uncheck the "save" box on logout.. blow out the session save config
[19:24] <pl2> holstein, awesome. Never noticed that checkbox there! Thanks man.
[19:25] <pl2> holstein, gotta restart since some programs that were on a usb drive(no longer attached) are causing massive problems!
[19:25] <holstein> pl2: i bet. cheers!
[20:19] <clampin> hello
[20:19] <bgardner> clampin: Hello
[20:19] <clampin> i am new in xubuntu ... i have just install xubuntu on my desktop pc ... :)
[20:20] <clampin> and it's cool :) my pc is as new... :)
[20:21] <clampin> sorry for my poor english.. i am french speaking people from belgium
[20:22] <elfy> your english is a lot better than my french :)
[20:22] <bgardner> clampin: Likewise
[20:22] <knome> clampin, do you have a support question?
[20:23] <clampin> for now, no, but i have bookmarked this channel for further help...
[20:23] <knome> !offtopic | clampin, if you just want to chat
[20:23] <ubottu> clampin, if you just want to chat: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:24] <clampin> ok thank's :)
[20:31] <Taylr0x> Is there any way to set your mouse double click so that when you double click on the top of a window it rolls it up and down depending on the current state?
[20:33] <bgardner> Taylr0x: Yes, go to Settings->Window Manager->Advanced and change Double Click Action to Shade
[20:34] <Taylr0x> bgardner: Excellent, just what I wanted. Many thanks!
[20:44] <xubuntu917> hi guis, can i use android phone, as a boot device in order to install xubuntu?
[20:44] <bekks> Nope.
[20:45] <xubuntu917> it has to be a usb stick, right?
[20:45] <bekks> Correct.
[20:45] <xubuntu917> thanks : )))
[20:56] <Taylr0x> What version of Skype do I need to install when running the latest version of xubuntu? I've tried looking in software manager and it isn't there. I've gone onto the Skype website and the versions they offer do not correspond.
[20:57] <bekks> !skype
[20:57] <ubottu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga
[20:57] <clampin> !Ekiga
[20:57] <ubottu> ekiga is an Internet telephony application included with Ubuntu, which supports the SIP and H323 protocols. Information and help at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ekiga
[20:57] <bazhang> !info skype partner | Taylr0x
[20:57] <ubottu> Taylr0x: skype (source: skype): client for Skype VOIP and instant messaging service. In component main, is extra. Version 4.2.0.11-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 (partner), package size 15 kB, installed size 61 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)
[21:02] <Taylr0x> Brilliant. Many thanks bekks, clampin & bazhang.
[21:15] <[JJ]Albert> I have question about the proprietary catalyst drivers.
[21:16] <[JJ]Albert> At the moment, the latest drivers for FGLRX in the (X)ubuntu repository is at Catalyst 13.1.
[21:16] <[JJ]Albert> But the latest Catalyst drivers for Linux is 13.4
[21:17] <[JJ]Albert> I've not installed it for fear of messing up my xorg settings, but trying to build the installer for my system (Xubuntu 13.04, AMD x86_64)
[21:18] <[JJ]Albert> -- It hasn't worked.
[21:18] <[JJ]Albert> The only installer for 13.4 I've found is only being made for the next Ubuntu/Xubuntu version.
[21:18] <[JJ]Albert> And that won't work, probably.
[21:19] <[JJ]Albert> So I want to know if there's an alternate for Raring that I could use to get the latest stable Catalyst drivers.
[21:19] <[JJ]Albert> FGLRX/Catalyst/AMD.
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[21:40] <bekks> [JJ]Albert: Why cantyou use the drivers shipped by your release?
[21:40] <[JJ]Albert> I can use those
[21:41] <[JJ]Albert> The problem is more with performance of drivers, and the fact that (And I've used Linux for longer even if I suck at it still, so don't assume I just came over for--) Steam on linux wont use 13.1 for big picture mode.
[21:41] <[JJ]Albert> But mainly performance.
[21:45] <Taylr0x> Can someone point me in the direction of how to get flash working with Firefox? I've tried grabbing it via the addons feature but it doesnt seem to work/install properly.
[21:46] <Taylr0x> !flash player
[21:47] <[JJ]Albert> I thought Flash Player came with Xubuntu by default?
[21:50] <Sysi> nope, licencing issues
[21:50] <Sysi> !restricted
[21:50] <ubottu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:51] <[JJ]Albert> Oh, it must be because one opts for restricted extras at installation time.
[21:51] <Sysi> if you just want flash, install package flashplugin-installer
[21:52] <[JJ]Albert> I'm guessing by now that I should just wait for 13.10 instead of trying to install 13.4?
[21:52] <[JJ]Albert> Catalyst 13.4 that is.
[21:54] <Taylr0x> Smashing, worked a treat. Many thanks Sysi
[21:54] <Sysi> np
[21:56] <xubuntu479> Hey , who cen help me whit wireless antenna ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5941656/
[21:57] <bekks> !details | xubuntu479
[21:57] <ubottu> xubuntu479: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."
[21:59] <xubuntu479> Hey , who cen help me whit wireless antenna ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5941656/ , i reinstaled xubuntu after did software update and http://paste.ubuntu.com/5941587/ still not working  and when rebooting laptop getting this error http://imgur.com/YeJpKaP
[21:59] <xubuntu479> antenna still not working
[22:01] <xubuntu479> in adicionnal drivers saying : no proprietrary drivers are in use
[22:29] <t-ubuntu> hi All can someone help with a wifi issue that im having for a network detection issue
[22:32] <bekks> Please dont crosspost.
[22:32] <bekks> You issue is already being supported in #ubuntu
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[23:01] <flipper88_fl> Is that the next lts release?
[23:17] <Taylr0x> Anyone able to help me to get .mp3's working with music players? Currently trying to listen to some music via gmusicbrowser yet it's stating I'm missing plugins.
[23:17] <holstein> !mp3
[23:17] <ubottu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[23:18] <holstein> Taylr0x: you can use the fluendo codec