| vivid | why does http://packages.ubuntu.com/ return no packages for saucy? | 01:55 |
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| vivid | also, do-release-upgrade -d doesn't seem to work at all. | 01:55 |
| IdleOne | p.u.c shows released versions of packages | 01:56 |
| IdleOne | saucy is not released yet. | 01:57 |
| vivid | i could swear it returned results for raring while it was +1 | 01:57 |
| IdleOne | nope | 02:02 |
| darm0k | at tanagra | 11:23 |
| penguin42 | with an ubuntu+1 install image... | 11:27 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy all | 11:27 |
| ShippD | hello everyone a question maybe the wrong place to ask but will try got new laptop disabled secure boot in windows 8 install 13.10 rebooted and ubuntu does not show no boot list at all it goes straight to windows and help would be great thanks | 13:32 |
| BluesKaj | !uefi | 13:35 |
| ubottu | UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI | 13:35 |
| BluesKaj | ShippD,^ | 13:35 |
| bjorkintosh | how do i play .mov files? | 18:03 |
| bjorkintosh | are there packages i need to add? | 18:03 |
| bjorkintosh | vlc, mplayer, and mplayer2 are all unable to handle it. it plays just fine in chrome, however. | 18:04 |
| Ampelbein | bjorkintosh: Do you get any error message with vlc? | 18:13 |
| BluesKaj | bjorkintosh, are those from a videocam ? | 18:14 |
| BluesKaj | if so vlc should play them | 18:14 |
| bjorkintosh | they're from an iphone. | 18:18 |
| bjorkintosh | no response from vlc at all. no sound, no picture, no error. | 18:19 |
| bjorkintosh | it plays other .mov files just fine. | 18:19 |
| BluesKaj | mov files are similar to mp4 files and they play in vlc | 18:21 |
| BluesKaj | bjorkintosh, if not try to use avconv which is the replacement for ffmpeg to transcode the file to mpeg4 if it's Hi Def | 18:27 |
| bjorkintosh | hmm. i will try that. thanks BluesKaj | 18:28 |
| bjorkintosh | avconv? where is that? | 18:29 |
| bjorkintosh | apt-get install avconv yielded nothing. | 18:29 |
| BluesKaj | bjorkintosh, do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed | 18:30 |
| BluesKaj | ? | 18:30 |
| bjorkintosh | i do. | 18:30 |
| BluesKaj | thejm try ffmpeg | 18:31 |
| BluesKaj | seems avconv has been dropped from the 13.10 repos | 18:34 |
| BluesKaj | i don't see it anymore | 18:35 |
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| bjorkintosh | BluesKaj, avconv is still there. it is now part of libav-tools | 19:06 |
| anoni | hello, using 13.10, trying to get html5 h.264 work on firefox | 21:33 |
| anoni | according to google, ff 23 should have h.264 support, but i cannot find media.gstreamer.enabled at about:config | 21:34 |
| anoni | according to http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM5NzU enabling that flag, h.264 should work | 21:34 |
| anoni | any suggestions? | 21:34 |
| anoni | since the flash plugin ubuntu ships as default is vulnerable, i cannot use flash to watch youtube, and html5 wont work either since many (most?) of the youtube html5 vids are h.264 | 21:36 |
| wilee-nilee | anoni, Your running linux your vulnerability is not very high with correct use. | 21:38 |
| anoni | but still | 21:38 |
| wilee-nilee | your not in root that is the key | 21:38 |
| anoni | vulnerability is vulnerability | 21:38 |
| wilee-nilee | there is context, a generalized view will not give you a happy experience. ;) | 21:39 |
| anoni | ok, i got to website that use this vulnerability and can run some code, let's say, to capture key strokes | 21:40 |
| anoni | this needs root? | 21:40 |
| wilee-nilee | NO, you are not in root, where you are most vulnerable, and the scareware via flash is not pointed at linux in general, there are dangers, but mostly root kits. | 21:41 |
| anoni | i know i am not in root ;) | 21:42 |
| anoni | but example i just gave you does not need root | 21:42 |
| holstein | anoni: the flash in ubuntu is "vulnerable"? | 21:42 |
| anoni | holstein: yes | 21:42 |
| anoni | according to firefox plugin check it is vulnerable version | 21:42 |
| holstein | anoni: if you want current flash, you can get that in the chrome browser.. there is not more current version available | 21:42 |
| holstein | anoni: its not | 21:42 |
| holstein | anoni: its not running as root | 21:42 |
| anoni | :) | 21:42 |
| anoni | but it does not need to run as root | 21:43 |
| anoni | why would it | 21:43 |
| anoni | need to | 21:43 |
| holstein | anoni: flash *is* typically an issue.. but its no more vulnerable in linux.. it *is* patched | 21:43 |
| wilee-nilee | anoni, not in root is an argument for not in danger | 21:43 |
| holstein | anoni: if it were runinng as root, then we could talk about how vulnerable it could be... otherwise, its a risk, but no more than usual | 21:43 |
| anoni | so you are saying running code that can log what i write or maybe listen to my mic is just a risk and i should not care about that? :) | 21:44 |
| holstein | the flash check is likely just looking for the version, and kicking out the one error message is has | 21:44 |
| anoni | and none of that needs root | 21:45 |
| holstein | anoni: im saying, if you are saying "i dont want to run the ubuntu flash package" then dont | 21:45 |
| holstein | anoni: if you are saying its due to security, im saying, that is not an issue anymore and *any* flash | 21:45 |
| anoni | yes, i dont want to run it, i want to get h.264 support for ubuntu's firefox :D | 21:45 |
| anoni | thats why i came here | 21:45 |
| holstein | and, if you want the latest flash, use chrome | 21:45 |
| anoni | looks like ubuntu didn't compile firefox with gstreamer flag or something | 21:46 |
| holstein | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTM5NzU states "the latest nightly builds" for FF | 21:46 |
| anoni | yes but it shoudl be supported on ff 23 | 21:46 |
| anoni | which i have on 13.10 as default | 21:46 |
| holstein | anoni: how are you testing? | 21:47 |
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| anoni | http://html5test.com/ | 21:48 |
| anoni | anyway now i found site that says it comes to ff 24 | 21:48 |
| anoni | http://www.ghacks.net/2013/06/23/firefox-24-for-linux-gets-native-mp3-aac-and-h-264-support/ | 21:48 |
| anoni | so meh | 21:48 |
| anoni | since i dont want to use chrome | 21:48 |
| anoni | or (vulneable)flash | 21:49 |
| anoni | i guess i wont be watching youtube :P | 21:49 |
| holstein | you dont have to use chrome to test with it | 21:49 |
| anoni | since the minitube app is pure shit | 21:49 |
| holstein | anoni: its not | 21:49 |
| holstein | anoni: you are not running as root | 21:49 |
| anoni | and i dont need to run is as a root :) | 21:49 |
| anoni | to get fucked in the ass | 21:49 |
| anoni | so to say | 21:49 |
| holstein | !language | 21:50 |
| ubottu | Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. | 21:50 |
| Daekdroom | anoni, have you tried creating the flag? | 21:51 |
| anoni | no | 21:52 |
| anoni | how do i do that | 21:52 |
| anoni | it's funny that i have tested and used some time every ubuntu release past 5 yers or so | 21:53 |
| anoni | and everytime s*it like this prevents me for using it 24/7 :) | 21:54 |
| holstein | anoni: you are using the non-released one | 21:54 |
| anoni | every time bunch of small things that wont work how i want them to work | 21:54 |
| holstein | anoni: you can use flash.. or a browser that currently supports htlm5.. or a PPA to add the nightly of ff.. or build your own | 21:54 |
| anoni | yes but i use released versions too ofc | 21:54 |
| holstein | anoni: you are not using a stable relase | 21:54 |
| Daekdroom | Left click > New preference (I think that's how it's called in the english translation, which I'm not using) > boolean | 21:54 |
| holstein | release* | 21:54 |
| anoni | hmmh, creating new flag didn't help :( | 21:58 |
| holstein | anoni: are you using the most recent unstable build of ff? have you tested with chrome? | 21:58 |
| holstein | have you tried firefox support? | 21:59 |
| anoni | i am using version that comes with ubuntu 13.10 and i do not want to use chrome | 21:59 |
| Daekdroom | !find firefox/saucy | 22:00 |
| anoni | since google is evil and all that | 22:00 |
| ubottu | Package/file firefox/saucy does not exist in raring | 22:00 |
| holstein | anoni: sure, and i hear that, friend.. but you can test with it | 22:00 |
| Daekdroom | !find firefox / saucy | 22:00 |
| ubottu | / is not a valid distribution: extras, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, saucy, saucy-backports, saucy-proposed, stable, testing, unstable | 22:00 |
| Daekdroom | Damn it | 22:00 |
| Daekdroom | !find firefox saucy | 22:00 |
| ubottu | Found: firefox, firefox-dbg, firefox-dev, firefox-globalmenu, firefox-locale-af, firefox-locale-ar, firefox-locale-as, firefox-locale-ast, firefox-locale-be, firefox-locale-bg (and 84 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=firefox&searchon=names&suite=saucy§ion=all | 22:00 |
| anoni | i know i can get it work with chrome since it supports h.264 | 22:00 |
| anoni | but i'd like to get this working on ff | 22:00 |
| holstein | anoni: so, you have tested with chrome? how about the other suggestions? firefox support? the PPA for the testing version? | 22:01 |
| anoni | i have not tested it on chrome | 22:01 |
| anoni | i dont see the point since i wont be using it anyway | 22:01 |
| trism | anoni: it would probably have to build against gstreamer, which it doesn't seem to yet | 22:01 |
| anoni | mmh ok | 22:01 |
| holstein | anoni: and, the lastest firefox ppa? or firefox support? | 22:02 |
| anoni | any guesses will this change before release of 13.10? | 22:02 |
| anoni | if i remember right ff keeps updating to new major versions on ubuntu | 22:02 |
| anoni | holstein: i don't know about the ppa..i'd like to use vanilla ubuntu ;) | 22:04 |
| anoni | but maybe i am forced to use ppa | 22:04 |
| holstein | anoni: ? | 22:04 |
| holstein | anoni: its a testing suggestion | 22:04 |
| holstein | anoni: and firefox support? | 22:04 |
| anoni | i could try | 22:04 |
| anoni | ff support | 22:04 |
| holstein | anoni: you could try *any* suggestion a volunteer gives | 22:05 |
| anoni | i just thought this is more like ubuntu situation | 22:05 |
| holstein | anoni: you dont have to | 22:05 |
| anoni | yeah but some of your suggestions are not good for me | 22:05 |
| anoni | i mean what if it does work with chrome or some ppa firefox | 22:05 |
| anoni | if i wont be using them anyway | 22:05 |
| holstein | if wanted the testing version of ff. the ppa could be an easy way to have that | 22:05 |
| holstein | not sure what the deal is .. but good luck to you! | 22:06 |
| anoni | but do i want it? | 22:06 |
| trism | anoni: bug 1051559 seems related | 22:06 |
| ubottu | bug 1051559 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Build Firefox with GStreamer support" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1051559 | 22:06 |
| anoni | trism: thanks | 22:07 |
| anoni | holstein: my whole point when testing ubuntu is to use it "as is" i mean not to compile my own software or not to use some ppa repos or anything like that :) | 22:07 |
| anoni | maybe stupid but.. | 22:07 |
| holstein | anoni: "as is" ubuntu doesnt ship with what you want | 22:08 |
| holstein | anoni: so, you can stop testing it, then | 22:08 |
| anoni | just rely on what ubuntu officially offers me | 22:08 |
| anoni | yeah, looks like so | 22:08 |
| anoni | but i keep testing it every new release ;) | 22:08 |
| anoni | maybe one day.. | 22:08 |
| holstein | anoni: i have it | 22:08 |
| holstein | anoni: i add it, as i want... | 22:08 |
| holstein | anoni: its not that linux/ubuntu isnt "up to the task".. these are closed web scenarios that are not allowed to be supported easily | 22:09 |
| anoni | at least i am not as bad case like some people on some debian channel..only using free deabian software :P | 22:10 |
| anoni | debian | 22:10 |
| anoni | holstein: whatever the reason maybe, the fact is i cannot do all the things i'd like to | 22:11 |
| anoni | and i am not here to argue | 22:11 |
| anoni | just testing stuff and trying to get stuff to work | 22:11 |
| holstein | anoni: im not either.. im just stating facts | 22:11 |
| anoni | with my limited skills i have | 22:11 |
| holstein | FYI (not an argument nor endorsement, just fact) chrome sandboxes flash | 22:15 |
| anoni | thats good | 22:16 |
| holstein | "good" is a mater of opinion.. flash is sandboxed in an attempt to address the concerns you stated about flash | 22:17 |
| anoni | yeah, didn't know chrome sandboxes the flash | 22:18 |
| anoni | on windows i use software called sandboxie to sandbox the whole browser | 22:19 |
| anoni | btw is there anything similar for linux? | 22:19 |
| anoni | interestin, ff 23 plays http://www.bucksch.org/xfer/walter-roehrl-short.mp4 | 22:21 |
| anoni | so h.264 actually works..on some level at least | 22:21 |
| anoni | this url was suggested on that bug report site suggested by ubottu | 22:22 |
| holstein | anoni: chrome in linux sandboxes.. some argue that the users are isolated from each other | 22:22 |
| penguin42 | anoni: I use a few things for that; first chrome has a lot of sandboxing internally, secondly I tend to run firefox in safe-mode and with a separate profile for any banking stuff, or if I'm being really paranoid I just run it in a VM | 22:22 |
| holstein | anoni: as stated before.. since you are not root , the user you are on is "sandboxed" kind of | 22:22 |
| penguin42 | holstein: Kind of | 22:23 |
| holstein | a VM is a type of sandbox, kind of too | 22:23 |
| Daekdroom | anoni, that's the gstreamer plug-in, isn't it? It doesn't work for HTML5 <video>, however. | 22:23 |
| anoni | :( | 22:23 |
| anoni | guess so | 22:23 |
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