[06:36] <darkxst> ricotz, webkit is killing my retracer ;( can we drop the -dbg packages?
[06:37] <darkxst> we have dbysym anyway
[06:43] <ricotz> darkxst, hmm, do you intend to update the package to 2.0.4?
[06:46] <ricotz> darkxst, if this is *really* necessary then dropping the -dbg packages should be a ppa only thing!
[06:47] <ricotz> darkxst, what is breaking, did you talk to cjwatson or pitti about that?
[08:21] <darkxst> ricotz, its just really really slow ;(
[08:22] <darkxst> I was actually look at uploading 2.1.3 to staging, but the symbols are a nightmare
[08:24] <roasted> hello
[08:25] <roasted> off topic, but... IM A DAD! WOOO
[08:25] <roasted> that is all. :D
[08:26] <phako> congrats
[08:26] <roasted> :D
[08:26] <roasted> Sent from my Ubuntu GNOME laptop.
[08:26] <roasted> haaaa :D
[08:26] <roasted> (there, slightly back on topic)
[09:19] <darkxst> roasted, congrats!
[13:31] <anonee> darkxst how r u?
[13:35] <anonee> u know u remind me of a flash designer called darxide... anyway... bjsnider, darkxst, please I asked this in the ubuntu room but to no avail.
[13:35] <anonee> 1. my phone PAN network is showing multiple times on the network list, (the network manager icon of the GNOME panel) how do I delete the duplicates?
[13:35] <anonee> 2. many programs are showing multiple times on the list when I select open with another application in nautilus.. suggestions?
[13:35] <anonee> anonee: 3. I can't mount ext4 drive, I've read here and there but not yet found the solution?
[13:40] <tommie-lie> anonee: did you try mounting on the command line? what's the error message then? anything in the kernel log?
[13:58] <anonee> tommie-lie I partially resolved the mount problem, the only thing now is it's always mounted in read-only mode, no errors are showing in terminal
[13:58] <tommie-lie> apart from the "device X mounted readonly"?
[14:00] <anonee> tommie-lie: no, the terminal is not returning anything, just mounting the partition in read-only
[14:03] <tommie-lie> anonee: are you sure or does the user you try to access the volume with does not have write permissions (that's a difference)? try "mount" (without arguments) and look for "rw" or "ro" in the corresponding line of your volume
[14:03] <tommie-lie> usually mount reports a read-only mount if you requested a rw mount
[14:04] <anonee> tommie-lie it's not read-only, but only root can write, and chown doesn't seem to be doing anything, the owner is still root, I've also had the same problem trying to chown another directory! help!
[14:05] <tommie-lie> try chown /mountpoint/. instead of /mountpoint
[14:08] <anonee> tommie-lie: thank you! it worked! but how am I gonna fix the same for another directory? (in the File System partition)?
[14:10] <tommie-lie> subdirectories in your ext4 filesystem? chown -R descends recursively into all subdirectories
[14:11] <xrooters> sal all
[14:13] <anonee> tommie-lie no I don't mean all the directories lol I mean a certain dir physically under the root partition... it didn't work when I was trying to chown a dir under /var
[14:14] <anonee> also, why did it work when we put the dot? could u please guide me to some reading so i can understand why or if it's simple then tell me?
[14:17] <tommie-lie> anonee: I don't know why it did not work for a directory under /var, it definitely should (except if it's the same issue like before with a mounted volume)
[14:19] <anonee> tommie-lie thanks a lot for the help, a little dot unlocked a lot of space :)
[14:19] <tommie-lie> anonee: as for the mount issue: /mountpoint logically belongs to the filesystem where the mountpoint is. chowning (or chmoding) that only changes the parent directory. to write to the mounted filesystem, you have to have write permissions to the root of the filesystem, which can be identified by /mountpoint/.
[14:20] <tommie-lie> the . means "current directory" (just like .. means "parent directory"), so if /mountpoint/file refers to file in the root of the filesystem, /mountpoint/. refers to the root itself
[14:26] <anonee> tommie-lie I understand something now, you mean the . is an environment variable that by itself means current dir, but when there is a dir before it we get another variable (parent directory) am I understanding right?
[14:29] <tommie-lie> it's not an environment variable, it's a proper directory entry in the filesystem data structure
[14:30] <tommie-lie> every directory has it by default and you cannot change it
[14:30] <tommie-lie> ls -a displays it
[14:32] <anonee> tommie-lie thanx for the conversation and all, peace.
[20:26] <phillw> excellent work by Ali and aldoman, you have a really good looking header for wiki area :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Header (corrected one thing that was throwing the box sizes out)
[20:30] <SonikkuAmerica> Ohai phillw, this was the last place I'd expect you to be! :) Guess you're all over like most of us
[20:33] <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: I'm a wiki editor, we pop up in all sorts of odd places :D
[20:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh please, I made huge edits to the Ubuntu GNOME wiki myself in prep for Ubuntu 13.04
[20:34] <SonikkuAmerica> :D
[20:35] <SonikkuAmerica> I should create my Lubuntu testing VMs again. I ditched them in favor of a dual Ubuntu GNOME / Windows 8.1 Preview install.
[20:35] <anonee> I activated bluetooth to browse files on my phone, selected the PAN profile, I did the selection 3 times instead of selecting my phone from the bluetooth menu and selecting (browse files), as a result, I have my phone name listed 3 times in the network list, on click, they will ask if I want to use my phone's internet. how can I remove the duplicates?
[20:37] <SonikkuAmerica> On Ubuntu-GNOME?
[20:38] <anonee> SonikkuAmerica: no, on ubuntu 12.04 in GNOME 3.4 fallback mode
[20:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh. That question can be asked in #ubuntu then. This is for Ubuntu GNOME (with the GNOME Shell), starting with release 13.04
[20:42] <anonee> SonikkuAmerica, I asked on ubuntu a few hours ago and now again, but nobody answered, and I googled but didn't find what I'm looking for, thank you for understanding... you didn't forget the old GNOME, I'm sure you still like it :D
[20:43] <SonikkuAmerica> Well... your issue isn't exactly with GNOME, but it can be tied to a program in the 12.04 repos, so keep asking.
[20:43] <SonikkuAmerica> ( in #ubuntu )
[21:53] <roasted> SonikkuAmerica: why are you in here.