| MrGarlic | if you're a brown UK border agent you're the embodiment of scum, and we're excommunicating you | 03:46 |
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| neuro | tootles! | 05:54 |
| MartijnVdS | morning everyone! | 08:10 |
| shauno | aloha | 08:11 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 08:26 |
| StevenR | yay. Grub errors regarding embedding | 09:16 |
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| MartijnVdS | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFtmkILu6xg&list=PL32F8B5F41870D160 | 15:31 |
| penguin42 | hmph my dsl seems to have dropped down to 7.9Mbps from about 10-11Mbps | 15:54 |
| MartijnVdS | aww | 15:54 |
| mgdm | I have no idea how fast my DSL is these days | 15:56 |
| mgdm | it's > 10Mbps so I'm happy :_0 | 15:56 |
| mgdm | :-) even | 15:56 |
| mgdm | I'm not demanding | 15:56 |
| penguin42 | mgdm: Well exactly, 10-11Mbps is it's norm with about 1Mbps up - and at that I'm pretty happy; dropping down to under 8 is nasty! | 15:57 |
| Azelphur | https://en.wikipedia.org/?diff=566904988 | 17:23 |
| * Azelphur sighs | 17:23 | |
| Azelphur | 156.33.241.5 US Senate, Washington DC. | 17:24 |
| penguin42 | haha | 17:26 |
| Azelphur | they really are trying ;) | 17:27 |
| MartijnVdS | too bad cases like this are quite high-profile | 17:27 |
| MartijnVdS | and Wikipedia editors are hawks | 17:27 |
| MartijnVdS | argh | 19:04 |
| MartijnVdS | Unbelieving bug triagers | 19:04 |
| MartijnVdS | I've added *all* necessary info, triager goes "Can you try again?" | 19:04 |
| MartijnVdS | I could.. but nothing has changed, so it'll still break. Because it's been breaking for a week now. | 19:05 |
| penguin42 | bug ? | 19:06 |
| MartijnVdS | 1207612 | 19:10 |
| penguin42 | bug 1207612 | 19:10 |
| lubotu3 | bug 1207612 in linux (Ubuntu) "046d:0825 Using webcam fills log with xhci_hcd errors" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1207612 | 19:10 |
| * penguin42 tosses lubotu3 a cookie | 19:10 | |
| MartijnVdS | !botsnack | 19:11 |
| lubotu3 | Yum! Err, I mean, APT! | 19:11 |
| penguin42 | MartijnVdS: Well he didn't ask you to try it again did he in those comments - he asked whether the camera worked | 19:12 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: it's still a "We don't believe you see the bug" comment. | 19:12 |
| MartijnVdS | or it reads like one anyway | 19:12 |
| ali1234 | there's no point ever reporting kernel bugs on launchpad | 19:14 |
| ali1234 | they will not be fixed | 19:14 |
| ali1234 | you will be asked to retest every 6 months, but that is it | 19:15 |
| penguin42 | yeh it's pretty rare, although it is useful if you find a heck of a lot people are hitting the same thing | 19:15 |
| MartijnVdS | ali1234: this one has a patch that is/will be upstream for the next release | 19:15 |
| MartijnVdS | (3.11) | 19:15 |
| ali1234 | it won't be backported until after the next release, and then only if you can cionvince someone to do a SRU, and that will only happen if the bug can cause data loss | 19:16 |
| MartijnVdS | ali1234: I'm on saucy | 19:16 |
| ali1234 | doesn't matter | 19:16 |
| MartijnVdS | ali1234: I'm assuming the target kernel is 3.11 | 19:16 |
| MartijnVdS | which is exactly right | 19:16 |
| ali1234 | they don't start fixing bugs until after release | 19:16 |
| ali1234 | so then just wait for 3.11 to release and saucy to switch to it, problem solved? | 19:17 |
| MartijnVdS | ali1234: yes, but have them be aware of it, because newer hardware like this is getting more common | 19:17 |
| MartijnVdS | ali1234: at the very least, it'll give people a bug to subscribe to | 19:17 |
| ali1234 | where are we in the release cycle anyway? | 19:17 |
| MartijnVdS | august-ish | 19:17 |
| penguin42 | MartijnVdS: So the normal thing next is to ask you to test latest upstream in the http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ but I think you've find the right bug | 19:18 |
| MartijnVdS | there was a page that uses previous kernel releases to guess the next release date | 19:18 |
| * MartijnVdS can't find it anymore | 19:18 | |
| ali1234 | it's not in upstream yet though | 19:20 |
| ali1234 | i suppose it might be in rc3 | 19:20 |
| * MartijnVdS looks at git | 19:20 | |
| MartijnVdS | https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=07f3cb7c28bf3f4dd80bfb136cf45810c46ac474 | 19:21 |
| daftykins | "Software is now supposed to not assume the TD is not completed until it gets that last successful status." | 19:22 |
| penguin42 | MartijnVdS: so try latest upstream from that ppa | 19:22 |
| ali1234 | that's in rc3 then | 19:22 |
| daftykins | negative overload | 19:22 |
| daftykins | it's not the not not... | 19:22 |
| ali1234 | *now | 19:22 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: *install* | 19:23 |
| penguin42 | MartijnVdS: There are a series of tags to add to the bug as well to indicate whether it succeeds or fails with a given kernel | 19:23 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: where do I find a description of those tags? | 19:24 |
| penguin42 | hmm can't find them | 19:26 |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ that fixed it. Added comment. | 19:29 |
| * penguin42 needs to do that to see if his USB thumb drive comes back 3.0.10-6 broke it | 19:30 | |
| penguin42 | MartijnVdS: How much is it filling the logs - is it enough to make the machine unusable or just a PITA ? | 19:30 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: around 20 times/second | 19:31 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: so if you're webcamming all day, your / will fill up nicely | 19:31 |
| daftykins | funsies | 19:31 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: the commit note states it needs to be backported all the way to 3.0 (because new hardware vs old software expectation) | 19:32 |
| penguin42 | nod | 19:32 |
| * penguin42 hmms and ha's about switching gas supplier | 22:23 | |
| daftykins | oooh risky | 22:24 |
| daftykins | i invited one of those door to door people in once in Portsmouth, thing is despite their promises they try to hide the fact you'd only be saving maybe a fiver | 22:24 |
| penguin42 | daftykins: Well uswitch/money supermarket seems to say it'll save me £80/year, athough there is a £30 early leave fee, but the current supplier is annoying | 22:32 |
| daftykins | :( | 22:33 |
| daftykins | there's great choice down here | 22:34 |
| daftykins | you have your Guernsey Water, Guernsey Gas and Guernsey Electricity | 22:34 |
| daftykins | :D | 22:34 |
| penguin42 | hmm - who do you use? | 22:38 |
| daftykins | all of them :D | 22:39 |
| penguin42 | right, swtiched to 'flow energy' | 22:41 |
| daftykins | let's hope it flows well | 22:45 |
| penguin42 | nod, I suspect the hard part will be the transfer from the existing supplier | 22:46 |
| penguin42 | hmm odd, the daily kernel booted really really fast - but complained that the radeon driver couldn't load firmware | 23:29 |
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