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nausiumHey, I just installed the LTS xubuntu and I'm having trouble finding info on customizing desktop panels00:06
nausiumas in, I cant seem to right-click an empty space on the panel like im otherwise used to, is there another way to do it?00:07
pleia2nausium: what does it do when you try?00:07
nausiumnothing00:07
nausiumI right click and no menu or anything pops up00:07
pleia2it should00:08
nausiumim using a laptop, ill try with a mouse00:08
nausiumnow it works00:11
nausiumi hate this touchpad00:11
xubuntu153hallo....01:16
IMTheNachoManhey guys. so im installing xubuntu on my older mac mini (i want xfce and saw this is the best way to go) but wondering if I should get 12.04 or 13.04 ??01:37
pleia2IMTheNachoMan: it's up to you, but 12.04 is supported for 3 years (dont need to upgrade until then) and 13.04 is only supported until january (then you need to upgrade to 13.10, which comes out in october)02:09
pleia2so if you are ok with older software and don't want to worry about upgrades, 12.04 is good, if you're ok with upgrading and want newer stuff, go with 13.0402:10
kingnick42pleia - 12.04 is supported until 201702:15
kingnick425 years after release02:15
pleia2kingnick42: only Ubuntu, Xubuntu is a 3 year LTS02:16
Unit193Not Xubuntu, Ubuntu is 5 years.02:16
kingnick42oh?02:16
kingnick42Well, I didn't know that02:16
kingnick42thanks :)02:16
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IMTheNachoManpleia2: i don't mind upgrades but how complex is the process to upgrade? like click click or tinkering?03:09
yulezoHello.  I installed Ubuntu and then thenxubuntu-desktop package on 13.04.  I liked the way things were working.  I reinstalled xubuntu 13.04 by itself.  Now many of the themes that I liked are not there.03:15
yulezoNot sure how to install them but they aren't there.  Any ideas?03:15
well_laid_lawnthemes for what?03:23
well_laid_lawnxfwm has it's own themes, then there's gtk2/3 themes03:23
yulezowell_laid_lawn: They were under the themes tab.  I guess they were from gtk.03:24
yulezoOne more question.  I can't seem to get vdpau to work though it works fine in regular Ubuntu.  Could that have anything to do with xfwm or xfce?03:24
well_laid_lawnyou can have a look in the package manager for themes or try gnome-look.org or such03:25
well_laid_lawn!themes03:25
ubottuTo change your theme in Xubuntu, go to Settings Manager » Appearance (GTK+ theme) or Settings Manager » Window Manager (xfwm4 theme) to change the theme - find more themes at http://xfce-look.org/ or http://gnome-look.org/ (for GTK+ themes)03:25
yulezoWhat does the compositor due in Window Manager Tweaks.  I thought xfwm was a compositing wm by default.  Why is it diabled there?03:33
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c2tarunHi friends, here is the screenshot of my tray icons. http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-08032013-093126am.php   I can figure all the apps but not the third one from top, can anyone please help me in finding out what it is?04:02
Orlando_habla español?05:14
Unit193!es05:14
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #xubuntu-es; escriba "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. Si nadie responde, puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es.05:14
Orlando_ok, me puedes ayudar?05:15
Orlando_tengo problemas con constraseña05:15
Orlando_hola05:17
Orlando_hola05:18
Unit193Orlando_: Hola, I recommend you to /join #ubuntu-es05:19
xubuntu337xubuntu live cd says "this" as user name and then Other and then login and password, nothing works, latest version, cant get in, please help07:16
Sysixubuntu337: how did you make the stick?07:18
xubuntu337yumi07:19
Sysitry doing it again with unetbootin07:19
xubuntu337ok07:19
xubuntu337ok that did it, the username was "xubuntu" instead of "this" but I still had to click Other and enter login:xubuntu and blank password to get in07:33
xubuntu337thanks for the help07:33
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xubuntu074bonjour09:36
MarkusDBXI'm looking for a way to get quarter screen tiling10:22
MarkusDBXTiling left-right bottom-top, works fine in xfce. But I can't get top-left (quarterscreen) to work. Any ideas?10:23
Unit193As far as I know it isn't supported in Xfwm at this time.10:23
MarkusDBXdarn it, it would be a great feature. If that thing was in place xfce would really measure up with the more serious tiling wm's.10:24
well_laid_lawnmake your own tiler, all the cool kids do10:35
MarkusDBXwell_laid_lawn: can you kick me in a direction where I can find instructions how to roll my own?10:51
knomeMarkusDBX, i suppose "learn programming" :)10:51
well_laid_lawnMarkusDBX:  find a tiler that is something close to what yo want and start hacking11:02
Sysimaybe worth checking out wmctrl11:02
well_laid_lawnI started from https://github.com/pyknite/catwm11:04
well_laid_lawnMarkusDBX:  https://github.com/c00kiemon5ter/monsterwm forked from my dminiwm, ivan is very cool11:10
Left_Turnhey how much space does xubuntu take after installation?11:12
SysiI've waited for different kind of alttab window trough two xfce releases, next one should have it!11:12
SysiLeft_Turn: 5GB11:12
knome4.4GB ;)11:12
Left_Turni thought it was meant to be lighter than ubuntu? which took also 5gb11:12
knomeLeft_Turn, used disk space doesn't tell much about lightness11:13
Left_Turnoh true11:13
well_laid_lawnthe apps you use count towards resource use as well11:14
MarkusDBXwell_laid_lawn: Thanks, I will investigate that wm11:14
well_laid_lawncheers11:14
Taylr0xHi all. How do you format a USB stick (and in FAT32 or other Windows readable media format)? I can't seem to find any formatting feature/software.11:34
Sysigparted is a nice tool for that11:35
Taylr0xSysi, GParted partition editor?11:36
Sysiyup11:36
Taylr0xMany thanks. Will give that a try noe =)11:36
Taylr0xnow.*11:36
Sysimake sure to format right drive/partition11:38
Taylr0xWill do. Done the install yet can't seem to find the app launcher to run it. Any ideas?11:39
Taylr0xFound it. It's within the settings options =)11:39
Taylr0xsettings manager.*11:40
knomeyup, we bunched most of the settings there recently11:40
Taylr0xMakes sense. I should of looked before mentioning here (most likely a common fault with beginners!).11:40
Taylr0xMany thanks for the help.11:40
knomeno problem - have fun11:41
Taylr0xHow would I create a launcher for that app what with it being within the settings?11:45
knomeTaylr0x, launcher in the panel or the menu?11:46
Taylr0xPanel, if possible.11:47
knomeTaylr0x, add a new launcher manually, then in the launcher settings, add a new empty item and point the launcher to the command "gparted"11:48
Taylr0xknome, worked a treat. Many thanks!11:51
AzelphurHi, I'm looking on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThunarCustomActions and theres a few bits I'd like to have, but it doesn't actually tell you how to install said custom actions. :<11:59
knomeAzelphur, edit -> configure custom actions?12:05
Azelphurknome: it mentioned something about the command line, I realised now that most of the examples are bash scripts which add themselves xD12:05
knomeAzelphur, or, ~/.config/Thunar/uca.xml12:06
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jonoknome, cool to see the XMir testing kicking off :-)13:08
jonoknome, let me know if there is anything I can help with13:08
jonoand I know the Mir team are keen to help fix bugs you folks find13:09
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brainwashjono: is there even one benefit of using xmir?13:21
jonobrainwash, a few:13:21
TheSheepname 3013:22
jono * this will become the primary supported stack moving forward, so XMir will be the X implementation Canonical maintain and Mir will be the display server - this means less work for flavors who use XMir and Mir13:22
TheSheepalso, I think we should move to -ot13:22
jono * there are some benefits such as flicker-free boot, cleaner plug in/out of projectors (fewer artifacts etc)13:22
jono * this also maps into our wider convergence story which could lead the way for a Xubuntu Phone for example13:23
jonoMir will drive more than just the desktop13:23
jonoTheSheep, this seems pretty on topic t me13:23
brainwashso xubuntu will move to mir instead of wayland? kinda doubt that13:23
jonobrainwash, I don't know what the team are planning - they are just testing XMir in some images, after a discussion from a while back13:26
TheSheepjono: this is the support channel13:27
TheSheepjono: you either want -dev or -ot13:28
jonoTheSheep, np13:29
jonosorry TheSheep13:29
TheSheepjono: no need to apologize to me, really13:30
jono:-)13:30
brainwashxfce4-session won't let me logout/shutdown few seconds after login, requires the session manager to be in an idle state13:31
brainwashany ideas?13:31
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xubuntu457hello,I have installed xubuntu in a laptop that I have connected to a tv thruoght an HDMI cable, the video is working pwrfectly, but for dome reason the sound is not working, could you help me ?13:47
XATRIXHi guys, how can i make my LCD screen to poweroff/suspend during inactivity limit ? I've set "Put display sleep... 5minutes" and "Switch off display after ... 15 minutes" in Xfce Power Manager15:31
XATRIXBut it's only blanks the screen to "Black" after even 30 minutes15:32
XATRIXIt doesn't turn off it's power/suspend it15:32
XATRIXIt simply blank15:32
koegsturn of monitor power management in xfce power manager and use the options from screensaver-advanced, that did the trick for me15:33
koegssettings->screensaver->Advanced15:34
c2tarunI am running Xubuntu 12.04, when I use laptop on battery I can feel performance degradation in xubuntu. I unchecked Save power over performance option. Still I am feeling that xubuntu is very slow. Can anyone please help me in improving speed?15:40
xubuntu598helo16:12
GridCube!hi | xubuntu59816:18
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imthenachomanhey guys. anyone know how to get apple/mac keyboard to work right in xubuntu?17:17
holsteinimthenachoman: "right" might be a matter of opinion, and will definetly require more details17:18
holsteinshould be plug and play functional17:18
imthenachomani want apple + a to select all, and set it up the way os x works17:19
holsteinimthenachoman: not sure how many volunteers will be familiar with "the way osx works".. i would try the keyboard shortcut GUI and try specifying what you like17:20
Sysiyou can't make it to be exactly like OS X, but switching cmd(s) from super to Ctrl would get close17:23
imthenachomanhummm17:23
Sysi(and if you want to have super too for hotkeys and such, bind it to ctrl or leave right cmd to be)17:25
imthenachomani think i might just need to relearn how to use this. i dont want to do all this mapping stuff17:25
imthenachomani thought it would be easy/simple17:25
imthenachomanloving xfce though17:25
Sysiit's not very difficult, but it's just switching the meanings of keys17:26
imthenachomanif i swap ctrl with apple than ctrl+c would not break in terminal anymore17:28
Sysino, ctrl C would still be ctrl C, just triggered by different key17:30
SysiI prefer selecting+middle click paste17:30
imthenachomanhumm17:33
imthenachomanany recomendations on a good mail, contacts, calendar app for xfce?17:33
holsteinimthenachoman: "good" is a matter of opinion and use case.. i use web apps17:36
Sysithunderbird and evolution are popular, then there are KDE apps, and one a bit special email client is geary17:38
imthenachomanthunderbird and evolution do all three?17:39
Sysithunderbird might17:39
imthenachomancool17:46
imthenachomanty17:46
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Taylr0xFilezilla used to have a sister piece of software for hosting FTP's.  Can anyone please remind me what it was? Or can you actually do that within  Filezilla?20:13
Taylr0xOr at least I think it had a sister program. I could be wrong.20:13
GridCubetheres a filezilla server for windows, but i dont know if its there for linux20:16
GridCubeyou simply install an ftp server on linux, or better an ssh server20:16
GridCube!ssh20:17
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)20:17
GridCubeits pretty easy to do that too20:17
Taylr0xMany thanks GridCube. I shall give that a try.20:18
GridCubeyou can use filezilla to acces ssh as ftp's and it should be more secure or something i dont really understand how that works20:19
cdh473__yeah guys keep it up woo woo20:50
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tux31i have bug video in application menu22:39
tux31how repair this bug22:40
tux31if i unchech show image in menu i have no bug22:42
tux31uncheck22:42
holsteintux31: i would start by defining "this". and share as many other details and see if a volunteer can help22:42
tux31the folder icone disaper and reaper when pass mouse cusor22:54
GridCubetux31, which its your native language? maybe you can get better support from people who you can speak more freely22:55
tux31french22:56
GridCube!fr22:56
ubottuNous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.22:56
GridCube:)22:56
tux31thanks22:56
GridCubeno problem, i hope you can fix your problem, if not, do come back22:57

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