[00:06] Hey, I just installed the LTS xubuntu and I'm having trouble finding info on customizing desktop panels [00:07] as in, I cant seem to right-click an empty space on the panel like im otherwise used to, is there another way to do it? [00:07] nausium: what does it do when you try? [00:07] nothing [00:07] I right click and no menu or anything pops up [00:08] it should [00:08] im using a laptop, ill try with a mouse [00:11] now it works [00:11] i hate this touchpad [01:16] hallo.... [01:37] hey guys. so im installing xubuntu on my older mac mini (i want xfce and saw this is the best way to go) but wondering if I should get 12.04 or 13.04 ?? [02:09] IMTheNachoMan: it's up to you, but 12.04 is supported for 3 years (dont need to upgrade until then) and 13.04 is only supported until january (then you need to upgrade to 13.10, which comes out in october) [02:10] so if you are ok with older software and don't want to worry about upgrades, 12.04 is good, if you're ok with upgrading and want newer stuff, go with 13.04 [02:15] pleia - 12.04 is supported until 2017 [02:15] 5 years after release [02:16] kingnick42: only Ubuntu, Xubuntu is a 3 year LTS [02:16] Not Xubuntu, Ubuntu is 5 years. [02:16] oh? [02:16] Well, I didn't know that [02:16] thanks :) === Noskcaj10 is now known as Noskcaj [03:09] pleia2: i don't mind upgrades but how complex is the process to upgrade? like click click or tinkering? [03:15] Hello. I installed Ubuntu and then thenxubuntu-desktop package on 13.04. I liked the way things were working. I reinstalled xubuntu 13.04 by itself. Now many of the themes that I liked are not there. [03:15] Not sure how to install them but they aren't there. Any ideas? [03:23] themes for what? [03:23] xfwm has it's own themes, then there's gtk2/3 themes [03:24] well_laid_lawn: They were under the themes tab. I guess they were from gtk. [03:24] One more question. I can't seem to get vdpau to work though it works fine in regular Ubuntu. Could that have anything to do with xfwm or xfce? [03:25] you can have a look in the package manager for themes or try gnome-look.org or such [03:25] !themes [03:25] To change your theme in Xubuntu, go to Settings Manager » Appearance (GTK+ theme) or Settings Manager » Window Manager (xfwm4 theme) to change the theme - find more themes at http://xfce-look.org/ or http://gnome-look.org/ (for GTK+ themes) [03:33] What does the compositor due in Window Manager Tweaks. I thought xfwm was a compositing wm by default. Why is it diabled there? === mutzs_ is now known as mutzs [04:02] Hi friends, here is the screenshot of my tray icons. http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-08032013-093126am.php I can figure all the apps but not the third one from top, can anyone please help me in finding out what it is? [05:14] habla español? [05:14] !es [05:14] En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #xubuntu-es; escriba "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. Si nadie responde, puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es. [05:15] ok, me puedes ayudar? [05:15] tengo problemas con constraseña [05:17] hola [05:18] hola [05:19] Orlando_: Hola, I recommend you to /join #ubuntu-es [07:16] xubuntu live cd says "this" as user name and then Other and then login and password, nothing works, latest version, cant get in, please help [07:18] xubuntu337: how did you make the stick? [07:19] yumi [07:19] try doing it again with unetbootin [07:19] ok [07:33] ok that did it, the username was "xubuntu" instead of "this" but I still had to click Other and enter login:xubuntu and blank password to get in [07:33] thanks for the help === aziz_ is now known as aziz [09:36] bonjour [10:22] I'm looking for a way to get quarter screen tiling [10:23] Tiling left-right bottom-top, works fine in xfce. But I can't get top-left (quarterscreen) to work. Any ideas? [10:23] As far as I know it isn't supported in Xfwm at this time. [10:24] darn it, it would be a great feature. If that thing was in place xfce would really measure up with the more serious tiling wm's. [10:35] make your own tiler, all the cool kids do [10:51] well_laid_lawn: can you kick me in a direction where I can find instructions how to roll my own? [10:51] MarkusDBX, i suppose "learn programming" :) [11:02] MarkusDBX: find a tiler that is something close to what yo want and start hacking [11:02] maybe worth checking out wmctrl [11:04] I started from https://github.com/pyknite/catwm [11:10] MarkusDBX: https://github.com/c00kiemon5ter/monsterwm forked from my dminiwm, ivan is very cool [11:12] hey how much space does xubuntu take after installation? [11:12] I've waited for different kind of alttab window trough two xfce releases, next one should have it! [11:12] Left_Turn: 5GB [11:12] 4.4GB ;) [11:12] i thought it was meant to be lighter than ubuntu? which took also 5gb [11:13] Left_Turn, used disk space doesn't tell much about lightness [11:13] oh true [11:14] the apps you use count towards resource use as well [11:14] well_laid_lawn: Thanks, I will investigate that wm [11:14] cheers [11:34] Hi all. How do you format a USB stick (and in FAT32 or other Windows readable media format)? I can't seem to find any formatting feature/software. [11:35] gparted is a nice tool for that [11:36] Sysi, GParted partition editor? [11:36] yup [11:36] Many thanks. Will give that a try noe =) [11:36] now.* [11:38] make sure to format right drive/partition [11:39] Will do. Done the install yet can't seem to find the app launcher to run it. Any ideas? [11:39] Found it. It's within the settings options =) [11:40] settings manager.* [11:40] yup, we bunched most of the settings there recently [11:40] Makes sense. I should of looked before mentioning here (most likely a common fault with beginners!). [11:40] Many thanks for the help. [11:41] no problem - have fun [11:45] How would I create a launcher for that app what with it being within the settings? [11:46] Taylr0x, launcher in the panel or the menu? [11:47] Panel, if possible. [11:48] Taylr0x, add a new launcher manually, then in the launcher settings, add a new empty item and point the launcher to the command "gparted" [11:51] knome, worked a treat. Many thanks! [11:59] Hi, I'm looking on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThunarCustomActions and theres a few bits I'd like to have, but it doesn't actually tell you how to install said custom actions. :< [12:05] Azelphur, edit -> configure custom actions? [12:05] knome: it mentioned something about the command line, I realised now that most of the examples are bash scripts which add themselves xD [12:06] Azelphur, or, ~/.config/Thunar/uca.xml === IsoAnon is now known as Isolol [13:08] knome, cool to see the XMir testing kicking off :-) [13:08] knome, let me know if there is anything I can help with [13:09] and I know the Mir team are keen to help fix bugs you folks find === stoeptegel is now known as ducktool [13:21] jono: is there even one benefit of using xmir? [13:21] brainwash, a few: [13:22] name 30 [13:22] * this will become the primary supported stack moving forward, so XMir will be the X implementation Canonical maintain and Mir will be the display server - this means less work for flavors who use XMir and Mir [13:22] also, I think we should move to -ot [13:22] * there are some benefits such as flicker-free boot, cleaner plug in/out of projectors (fewer artifacts etc) [13:23] * this also maps into our wider convergence story which could lead the way for a Xubuntu Phone for example [13:23] Mir will drive more than just the desktop [13:23] TheSheep, this seems pretty on topic t me [13:23] so xubuntu will move to mir instead of wayland? kinda doubt that [13:26] brainwash, I don't know what the team are planning - they are just testing XMir in some images, after a discussion from a while back [13:27] jono: this is the support channel [13:28] jono: you either want -dev or -ot [13:29] TheSheep, np [13:29] sorry TheSheep [13:30] jono: no need to apologize to me, really [13:30] :-) [13:31] xfce4-session won't let me logout/shutdown few seconds after login, requires the session manager to be in an idle state [13:31] any ideas? === stoeptegel is now known as suxktool === suxktool is now known as ducktool [13:47] hello,I have installed xubuntu in a laptop that I have connected to a tv thruoght an HDMI cable, the video is working pwrfectly, but for dome reason the sound is not working, could you help me ? [15:31] Hi guys, how can i make my LCD screen to poweroff/suspend during inactivity limit ? I've set "Put display sleep... 5minutes" and "Switch off display after ... 15 minutes" in Xfce Power Manager [15:32] But it's only blanks the screen to "Black" after even 30 minutes [15:32] It doesn't turn off it's power/suspend it [15:32] It simply blank [15:33] turn of monitor power management in xfce power manager and use the options from screensaver-advanced, that did the trick for me [15:34] settings->screensaver->Advanced [15:40] I am running Xubuntu 12.04, when I use laptop on battery I can feel performance degradation in xubuntu. I unchecked Save power over performance option. Still I am feeling that xubuntu is very slow. Can anyone please help me in improving speed? [16:12] helo [16:18] !hi | xubuntu598 [16:18] xubuntu598: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! [17:17] hey guys. anyone know how to get apple/mac keyboard to work right in xubuntu? [17:18] imthenachoman: "right" might be a matter of opinion, and will definetly require more details [17:18] should be plug and play functional [17:19] i want apple + a to select all, and set it up the way os x works [17:20] imthenachoman: not sure how many volunteers will be familiar with "the way osx works".. i would try the keyboard shortcut GUI and try specifying what you like [17:23] you can't make it to be exactly like OS X, but switching cmd(s) from super to Ctrl would get close [17:23] hummm [17:25] (and if you want to have super too for hotkeys and such, bind it to ctrl or leave right cmd to be) [17:25] i think i might just need to relearn how to use this. i dont want to do all this mapping stuff [17:25] i thought it would be easy/simple [17:25] loving xfce though [17:26] it's not very difficult, but it's just switching the meanings of keys [17:28] if i swap ctrl with apple than ctrl+c would not break in terminal anymore [17:30] no, ctrl C would still be ctrl C, just triggered by different key [17:30] I prefer selecting+middle click paste [17:33] humm [17:33] any recomendations on a good mail, contacts, calendar app for xfce? [17:36] imthenachoman: "good" is a matter of opinion and use case.. i use web apps [17:38] thunderbird and evolution are popular, then there are KDE apps, and one a bit special email client is geary [17:39] thunderbird and evolution do all three? [17:39] thunderbird might [17:46] cool [17:46] ty === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [20:13] Filezilla used to have a sister piece of software for hosting FTP's. Can anyone please remind me what it was? Or can you actually do that within Filezilla? [20:13] Or at least I think it had a sister program. I could be wrong. [20:16] theres a filezilla server for windows, but i dont know if its there for linux [20:16] you simply install an ftp server on linux, or better an ssh server [20:17] !ssh [20:17] SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon) [20:17] its pretty easy to do that too [20:18] Many thanks GridCube. I shall give that a try. [20:19] you can use filezilla to acces ssh as ftp's and it should be more secure or something i dont really understand how that works [20:50] yeah guys keep it up woo woo [20:50] * cdh473__ whistles === cdh473__ is now known as cdh473 [22:39] i have bug video in application menu [22:40] how repair this bug [22:42] if i unchech show image in menu i have no bug [22:42] uncheck [22:42] tux31: i would start by defining "this". and share as many other details and see if a volunteer can help [22:54] the folder icone disaper and reaper when pass mouse cusor [22:55] tux31, which its your native language? maybe you can get better support from people who you can speak more freely [22:56] french [22:56] !fr [22:56] Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [22:56] :) [22:56] thanks [22:57] no problem, i hope you can fix your problem, if not, do come back