[00:06] <nausium> Hey, I just installed the LTS xubuntu and I'm having trouble finding info on customizing desktop panels
[00:07] <nausium> as in, I cant seem to right-click an empty space on the panel like im otherwise used to, is there another way to do it?
[00:07] <pleia2> nausium: what does it do when you try?
[00:07] <nausium> nothing
[00:07] <nausium> I right click and no menu or anything pops up
[00:08] <pleia2> it should
[00:08] <nausium> im using a laptop, ill try with a mouse
[00:11] <nausium> now it works
[00:11] <nausium> i hate this touchpad
[01:16] <xubuntu153> hallo....
[01:37] <IMTheNachoMan> hey guys. so im installing xubuntu on my older mac mini (i want xfce and saw this is the best way to go) but wondering if I should get 12.04 or 13.04 ??
[02:09] <pleia2> IMTheNachoMan: it's up to you, but 12.04 is supported for 3 years (dont need to upgrade until then) and 13.04 is only supported until january (then you need to upgrade to 13.10, which comes out in october)
[02:10] <pleia2> so if you are ok with older software and don't want to worry about upgrades, 12.04 is good, if you're ok with upgrading and want newer stuff, go with 13.04
[02:15] <kingnick42> pleia - 12.04 is supported until 2017
[02:15] <kingnick42> 5 years after release
[02:16] <pleia2> kingnick42: only Ubuntu, Xubuntu is a 3 year LTS
[02:16] <Unit193> Not Xubuntu, Ubuntu is 5 years.
[02:16] <kingnick42> oh?
[02:16] <kingnick42> Well, I didn't know that
[02:16] <kingnick42> thanks :)
[03:09] <IMTheNachoMan> pleia2: i don't mind upgrades but how complex is the process to upgrade? like click click or tinkering?
[03:15] <yulezo> Hello.  I installed Ubuntu and then thenxubuntu-desktop package on 13.04.  I liked the way things were working.  I reinstalled xubuntu 13.04 by itself.  Now many of the themes that I liked are not there.
[03:15] <yulezo> Not sure how to install them but they aren't there.  Any ideas?
[03:23] <well_laid_lawn> themes for what?
[03:23] <well_laid_lawn> xfwm has it's own themes, then there's gtk2/3 themes
[03:24] <yulezo> well_laid_lawn: They were under the themes tab.  I guess they were from gtk.
[03:24] <yulezo> One more question.  I can't seem to get vdpau to work though it works fine in regular Ubuntu.  Could that have anything to do with xfwm or xfce?
[03:25] <well_laid_lawn> you can have a look in the package manager for themes or try gnome-look.org or such
[03:25] <well_laid_lawn> !themes
[03:33] <yulezo> What does the compositor due in Window Manager Tweaks.  I thought xfwm was a compositing wm by default.  Why is it diabled there?
[04:02] <c2tarun> Hi friends, here is the screenshot of my tray icons. http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-08032013-093126am.php   I can figure all the apps but not the third one from top, can anyone please help me in finding out what it is?
[05:14] <Orlando_> habla español?
[05:14] <Unit193> !es
[05:15] <Orlando_> ok, me puedes ayudar?
[05:15] <Orlando_> tengo problemas con constraseña
[05:17] <Orlando_> hola
[05:18] <Orlando_> hola
[05:19] <Unit193> Orlando_: Hola, I recommend you to /join #ubuntu-es
[07:16] <xubuntu337> xubuntu live cd says "this" as user name and then Other and then login and password, nothing works, latest version, cant get in, please help
[07:18] <Sysi> xubuntu337: how did you make the stick?
[07:19] <xubuntu337> yumi
[07:19] <Sysi> try doing it again with unetbootin
[07:19] <xubuntu337> ok
[07:33] <xubuntu337> ok that did it, the username was "xubuntu" instead of "this" but I still had to click Other and enter login:xubuntu and blank password to get in
[07:33] <xubuntu337> thanks for the help
[09:36] <xubuntu074> bonjour
[10:22] <MarkusDBX> I'm looking for a way to get quarter screen tiling
[10:23] <MarkusDBX> Tiling left-right bottom-top, works fine in xfce. But I can't get top-left (quarterscreen) to work. Any ideas?
[10:23] <Unit193> As far as I know it isn't supported in Xfwm at this time.
[10:24] <MarkusDBX> darn it, it would be a great feature. If that thing was in place xfce would really measure up with the more serious tiling wm's.
[10:35] <well_laid_lawn> make your own tiler, all the cool kids do
[10:51] <MarkusDBX> well_laid_lawn: can you kick me in a direction where I can find instructions how to roll my own?
[10:51] <knome> MarkusDBX, i suppose "learn programming" :)
[11:02] <well_laid_lawn> MarkusDBX:  find a tiler that is something close to what yo want and start hacking
[11:02] <Sysi> maybe worth checking out wmctrl
[11:04] <well_laid_lawn> I started from https://github.com/pyknite/catwm
[11:10] <well_laid_lawn> MarkusDBX:  https://github.com/c00kiemon5ter/monsterwm forked from my dminiwm, ivan is very cool
[11:12] <Left_Turn> hey how much space does xubuntu take after installation?
[11:12] <Sysi> I've waited for different kind of alttab window trough two xfce releases, next one should have it!
[11:12] <Sysi> Left_Turn: 5GB
[11:12] <knome> 4.4GB ;)
[11:12] <Left_Turn> i thought it was meant to be lighter than ubuntu? which took also 5gb
[11:13] <knome> Left_Turn, used disk space doesn't tell much about lightness
[11:13] <Left_Turn> oh true
[11:14] <well_laid_lawn> the apps you use count towards resource use as well
[11:14] <MarkusDBX> well_laid_lawn: Thanks, I will investigate that wm
[11:14] <well_laid_lawn> cheers
[11:34] <Taylr0x> Hi all. How do you format a USB stick (and in FAT32 or other Windows readable media format)? I can't seem to find any formatting feature/software.
[11:35] <Sysi> gparted is a nice tool for that
[11:36] <Taylr0x> Sysi, GParted partition editor?
[11:36] <Sysi> yup
[11:36] <Taylr0x> Many thanks. Will give that a try noe =)
[11:36] <Taylr0x> now.*
[11:38] <Sysi> make sure to format right drive/partition
[11:39] <Taylr0x> Will do. Done the install yet can't seem to find the app launcher to run it. Any ideas?
[11:39] <Taylr0x> Found it. It's within the settings options =)
[11:40] <Taylr0x> settings manager.*
[11:40] <knome> yup, we bunched most of the settings there recently
[11:40] <Taylr0x> Makes sense. I should of looked before mentioning here (most likely a common fault with beginners!).
[11:40] <Taylr0x> Many thanks for the help.
[11:41] <knome> no problem - have fun
[11:45] <Taylr0x> How would I create a launcher for that app what with it being within the settings?
[11:46] <knome> Taylr0x, launcher in the panel or the menu?
[11:47] <Taylr0x> Panel, if possible.
[11:48] <knome> Taylr0x, add a new launcher manually, then in the launcher settings, add a new empty item and point the launcher to the command "gparted"
[11:51] <Taylr0x> knome, worked a treat. Many thanks!
[11:59] <Azelphur> Hi, I'm looking on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThunarCustomActions and theres a few bits I'd like to have, but it doesn't actually tell you how to install said custom actions. :<
[12:05] <knome> Azelphur, edit -> configure custom actions?
[12:05] <Azelphur> knome: it mentioned something about the command line, I realised now that most of the examples are bash scripts which add themselves xD
[12:06] <knome> Azelphur, or, ~/.config/Thunar/uca.xml
[13:08] <jono> knome, cool to see the XMir testing kicking off :-)
[13:08] <jono> knome, let me know if there is anything I can help with
[13:09] <jono> and I know the Mir team are keen to help fix bugs you folks find
[13:21] <brainwash> jono: is there even one benefit of using xmir?
[13:21] <jono> brainwash, a few:
[13:22] <TheSheep> name 30
[13:22] <jono>  * this will become the primary supported stack moving forward, so XMir will be the X implementation Canonical maintain and Mir will be the display server - this means less work for flavors who use XMir and Mir
[13:22] <TheSheep> also, I think we should move to -ot
[13:22] <jono>  * there are some benefits such as flicker-free boot, cleaner plug in/out of projectors (fewer artifacts etc)
[13:23] <jono>  * this also maps into our wider convergence story which could lead the way for a Xubuntu Phone for example
[13:23] <jono> Mir will drive more than just the desktop
[13:23] <jono> TheSheep, this seems pretty on topic t me
[13:23] <brainwash> so xubuntu will move to mir instead of wayland? kinda doubt that
[13:26] <jono> brainwash, I don't know what the team are planning - they are just testing XMir in some images, after a discussion from a while back
[13:27] <TheSheep> jono: this is the support channel
[13:28] <TheSheep> jono: you either want -dev or -ot
[13:29] <jono> TheSheep, np
[13:29] <jono> sorry TheSheep
[13:30] <TheSheep> jono: no need to apologize to me, really
[13:30] <jono> :-)
[13:31] <brainwash> xfce4-session won't let me logout/shutdown few seconds after login, requires the session manager to be in an idle state
[13:31] <brainwash> any ideas?
[13:47] <xubuntu457> hello,I have installed xubuntu in a laptop that I have connected to a tv thruoght an HDMI cable, the video is working pwrfectly, but for dome reason the sound is not working, could you help me ?
[15:31] <XATRIX> Hi guys, how can i make my LCD screen to poweroff/suspend during inactivity limit ? I've set "Put display sleep... 5minutes" and "Switch off display after ... 15 minutes" in Xfce Power Manager
[15:32] <XATRIX> But it's only blanks the screen to "Black" after even 30 minutes
[15:32] <XATRIX> It doesn't turn off it's power/suspend it
[15:32] <XATRIX> It simply blank
[15:33] <koegs> turn of monitor power management in xfce power manager and use the options from screensaver-advanced, that did the trick for me
[15:34] <koegs> settings->screensaver->Advanced
[15:40] <c2tarun> I am running Xubuntu 12.04, when I use laptop on battery I can feel performance degradation in xubuntu. I unchecked Save power over performance option. Still I am feeling that xubuntu is very slow. Can anyone please help me in improving speed?
[16:12] <xubuntu598> helo
[16:18] <GridCube> !hi | xubuntu598
[17:17] <imthenachoman> hey guys. anyone know how to get apple/mac keyboard to work right in xubuntu?
[17:18] <holstein> imthenachoman: "right" might be a matter of opinion, and will definetly require more details
[17:18] <holstein> should be plug and play functional
[17:19] <imthenachoman> i want apple + a to select all, and set it up the way os x works
[17:20] <holstein> imthenachoman: not sure how many volunteers will be familiar with "the way osx works".. i would try the keyboard shortcut GUI and try specifying what you like
[17:23] <Sysi> you can't make it to be exactly like OS X, but switching cmd(s) from super to Ctrl would get close
[17:23] <imthenachoman> hummm
[17:25] <Sysi> (and if you want to have super too for hotkeys and such, bind it to ctrl or leave right cmd to be)
[17:25] <imthenachoman> i think i might just need to relearn how to use this. i dont want to do all this mapping stuff
[17:25] <imthenachoman> i thought it would be easy/simple
[17:25] <imthenachoman> loving xfce though
[17:26] <Sysi> it's not very difficult, but it's just switching the meanings of keys
[17:28] <imthenachoman> if i swap ctrl with apple than ctrl+c would not break in terminal anymore
[17:30] <Sysi> no, ctrl C would still be ctrl C, just triggered by different key
[17:30] <Sysi> I prefer selecting+middle click paste
[17:33] <imthenachoman> humm
[17:33] <imthenachoman> any recomendations on a good mail, contacts, calendar app for xfce?
[17:36] <holstein> imthenachoman: "good" is a matter of opinion and use case.. i use web apps
[17:38] <Sysi> thunderbird and evolution are popular, then there are KDE apps, and one a bit special email client is geary
[17:39] <imthenachoman> thunderbird and evolution do all three?
[17:39] <Sysi> thunderbird might
[17:46] <imthenachoman> cool
[17:46] <imthenachoman> ty
[20:13] <Taylr0x> Filezilla used to have a sister piece of software for hosting FTP's.  Can anyone please remind me what it was? Or can you actually do that within  Filezilla?
[20:13] <Taylr0x> Or at least I think it had a sister program. I could be wrong.
[20:16] <GridCube> theres a filezilla server for windows, but i dont know if its there for linux
[20:16] <GridCube> you simply install an ftp server on linux, or better an ssh server
[20:17] <GridCube> !ssh
[20:17] <GridCube> its pretty easy to do that too
[20:18] <Taylr0x> Many thanks GridCube. I shall give that a try.
[20:19] <GridCube> you can use filezilla to acces ssh as ftp's and it should be more secure or something i dont really understand how that works
[20:50] <cdh473__> yeah guys keep it up woo woo
[20:50]  * cdh473__ whistles
[22:39] <tux31> i have bug video in application menu
[22:40] <tux31> how repair this bug
[22:42] <tux31> if i unchech show image in menu i have no bug
[22:42] <tux31> uncheck
[22:42] <holstein> tux31: i would start by defining "this". and share as many other details and see if a volunteer can help
[22:54] <tux31> the folder icone disaper and reaper when pass mouse cusor
[22:55] <GridCube> tux31, which its your native language? maybe you can get better support from people who you can speak more freely
[22:56] <tux31> french
[22:56] <GridCube> !fr
[22:56] <GridCube> :)
[22:56] <tux31> thanks
[22:57] <GridCube> no problem, i hope you can fix your problem, if not, do come back