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jdstrand | hi! | 16:36 |
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tyhicks | hello | 16:36 |
jdstrand | #startmeeting | 16:36 |
meetingology | Meeting started Mon Aug 5 16:36:34 2013 UTC. The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 16:36 |
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jdstrand | The meeting agenda can be found at: | 16:36 |
jdstrand | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting | 16:36 |
jdstrand | [TOPIC] Announcements | 16:36 |
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jdstrand | Benjamin Drung (bdrung) provided updates for precise-raring for vlc (LP: 1186780) Your work is very much appreciated and will keep Ubuntu users secure. Great job! :) | 16:36 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1186780 in vlc (Ubuntu Raring) "Please update VLC (for security issues)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1186780 | 16:36 |
jdstrand | [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report | 16:37 |
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jdstrand | I'll go first | 16:37 |
jdstrand | I'm on community this week | 16:37 |
jdstrand | I have some embargoed updates | 16:37 |
jdstrand | patch piloting for august | 16:38 |
jdstrand | and various audits | 16:38 |
jdstrand | tyhicks: you're up | 16:38 |
tyhicks | I'll have a little sync up with jj, when he returns, and then I'll upload apparmor and dbus with DBus mediation support | 16:39 |
tyhicks | there's one known bug in dbus mediation and eavesdropping | 16:39 |
tyhicks | I'll fix that this week | 16:39 |
tyhicks | (but it isn't a blocker for uploading) | 16:39 |
tyhicks | I'll focus on my content hub work items this week | 16:40 |
tyhicks | I think that's it | 16:40 |
tyhicks | sarnold: you're up | 16:40 |
sarnold | I'm in the happy place this week, so it'll be more MIR audits and apparmor patch reviews (thanks tyhicks :) | 16:41 |
tyhicks | Oh yeah, I think there's a couple remaining (small) patches that need to be forwarded to the list | 16:41 |
tyhicks | I'll dig those out | 16:41 |
sarnold | I'm also likely to spend more time on the dnsmasq-resolvconf-confetti bomb, that hting makes such a mess over all my VMs. | 16:42 |
sarnold | currently, hard-coded IPs in /etc/hosts are mostly serving, but after the -27 kernel ate some of my VM images, I had to bring up some of the VMs again multiple times to get different IPs for them. what a pain. | 16:43 |
jdstrand | sarnold: I think some of that may be a one time sorta thing | 16:43 |
sarnold | jdstrand: yeah, I'm hopeful to keep it that way. :) | 16:43 |
sarnold | I think that's me, chrisccoulson, your turn :) | 16:44 |
chrisccoulson | hi | 16:44 |
jdstrand | sarnold: eg, maybe just start over-- clean our /etc/hosts of the static ones, then start each vm, one at a time, and ssh-keygen -R as needed until at the end you have all of them with new ip addresses | 16:44 |
jdstrand | sarnold: we can talk more elasewhere if you want | 16:44 |
jdstrand | s/elasewhere/elsewhere/ | 16:44 |
chrisccoulson | so, this week is going to be a fun week. it's firefox and thunderbird release day tomorrow, so i'm currently working on that | 16:44 |
sarnold | \o/ | 16:44 |
chrisccoulson | i've also been working on adding greasemonkey style user script support to oxide, which i plan to use for the unit tests (and which will probably form the basis of webapps) | 16:45 |
jdstrand | chrisccoulson: was there anything for them coming out of blackhat/defcon? | 16:45 |
chrisccoulson | jdstrand, not that i'm aware of | 16:45 |
jdstrand | good for them :) | 16:45 |
chrisccoulson | i shall get chromium out this week as well | 16:46 |
chrisccoulson | and i've got a meeting about the UA string for the mobile browser | 16:47 |
chrisccoulson | i think that's me done | 16:47 |
sarnold | jdstrand: the only thing I saw come out of blackhat for the browsers was "hey javascript lets you do a lot of amazing things, and advertising networks make it easy to rent time in a few million browsers..." | 16:47 |
jdstrand | chrisccoulson: there may be some more oxide discussions too-- I plan on poking at the thread | 16:48 |
jdstrand | sarnold: neat. I look forward to hearing from mdeslaur and sbeattie when they get back :) | 16:48 |
sarnold | jdstrand: me too :) | 16:48 |
jdstrand | [TOPIC] Highlighted packages | 16:48 |
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jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/batmand.html | 16:49 |
jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/aria2.html | 16:49 |
jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/unbound.html | 16:49 |
jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/squidclamav.html | 16:49 |
jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/policycoreutils.html | 16:49 |
jdstrand | The highlighted packages for this week are ^ | 16:49 |
jdstrand | The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Securi | 16:49 |
jdstrand | [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions | 16:49 |
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jdstrand | Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? | 16:49 |
jdstrand | tyhicks, sarnold, chrisccoulson: thanks! | 16:55 |
jdstrand | #endmeeting | 16:55 |
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meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Aug 5 16:55:16 2013 UTC. | 16:55 |
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sarnold | thanks jdstrand :) | 16:55 |
tyhicks | thanks | 16:55 |
soren | o/ | 20:00 |
cjwatson | hi | 20:00 |
cjwatson | Do we have quorum? kees, stgraber? | 20:03 |
cjwatson | (And whose turn is it to chair anyway?) | 20:03 |
* ScottK hopes so. | 20:03 | |
ScottK | With the email votes there may be a quorum on the extending PPU question even if there generally isn't for other business. | 20:04 |
soren | Don't know whose turn it is to chair. | 20:08 |
soren | I guess I can do it. | 20:10 |
soren | #startmeeting Technical Board | 20:10 |
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soren | pitti and mdz sent apologies, IIRC. | 20:10 |
soren | #topic Action review. | 20:11 |
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* soren reviews log | 20:11 | |
soren | Kees to review outstanding provisional MREs -- carried over | 20:12 |
cjwatson | FYI, I've implemented the "devel" series alias, pending review: https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/series-alias/+merge/178103 | 20:13 |
soren | Ah, lovely. | 20:13 |
cjwatson | The details of how PPAs are handled turned out to require a fair amount of debate over beer between wgrant and me, but I think we got it worked out. | 20:13 |
soren | I don't see other action items. | 20:13 |
soren | #topic extending PPU rights to non-members | 20:14 |
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soren | Does anyone want to discuss this further? | 20:15 |
cjwatson | I just +1ed it by mail | 20:15 |
soren | I noticed. Does that mean the motion is carried? I've not counted the votes. | 20:16 |
cjwatson | kees didn't explicitly say +1 but seemed positive. | 20:16 |
cjwatson | pitti voted +1. | 20:16 |
cjwatson | No other TB votes | 20:16 |
soren | I'd be happy to +1 it, even though it seems a little backwards to me. | 20:17 |
cjwatson | Can you elaborate on that? | 20:17 |
soren | I never really looked at PPU rights as something that would be further gated on having a sustained, significant contribution. | 20:17 |
ScottK | It's already gated that way. | 20:17 |
ScottK | We're trying to relax the gate. | 20:18 |
soren | In other words, I didn't think people needed to qualify for membership to get PPU rights. | 20:18 |
soren | I thought getting PPU rights would grant you membership. | 20:18 |
ScottK | Not if you don't qualify for membership. | 20:18 |
soren | ScottK: I realise. My point is that I never thought that was the intent to begin with. So I'm happy to approve it, since I thought this was the intent all along. | 20:18 |
ScottK | PPU doesn't change the membership requiremnts. | 20:18 |
cjwatson | Or to put it another way: It does grant membership, which is why you need to qualify for it as part of PPU membership. | 20:18 |
cjwatson | *PPU rights | 20:19 |
ScottK | Yes | 20:19 |
soren | Right, and I thought having PPU rights was the qualification. | 20:19 |
soren | In itself. | 20:19 |
soren | But that discussion is rather pointless now, I guess. | 20:20 |
soren | At least it's irrelevant to the issue at hand. | 20:20 |
stgraber | sorry wasn't paying very close attention to IRC (on vacation), +1 on the PPU proposal (my concerns were addressed while we were discussing this within the DMB) | 20:20 |
ScottK | Mark also gave it a +1 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2013-July/001688.html | 20:20 |
soren | What's the protocol here? Do we wait for kees to formally vote? | 20:21 |
cjwatson | soren: You, me, pitti, and stgraber makes 4/6, so carried. | 20:21 |
soren | Cool. | 20:22 |
soren | Er.. | 20:22 |
soren | What's the meetbot magic to record that? | 20:22 |
cjwatson | "#agreed", I think | 20:22 |
soren | #agreed Extending PPU rights to non-members approved by cjwatson, pitti, soren and stgraber | 20:22 |
soren | #accepted Extending PPU rights to non-members approved by cjwatson, pitti, soren and stgraber | 20:23 |
soren | #halp | 20:23 |
cjwatson | Meh, we can work it out without the metadata, I'm sure :) | 20:23 |
soren | True :) | 20:24 |
soren | #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item) | 20:24 |
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soren | Nothing, afaics. | 20:25 |
soren | #topic Check up on community bugs (standing item) | 20:25 |
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soren | Nothing | 20:25 |
cjwatson | Cool. | 20:25 |
soren | #topic Select a chair for the next meeting | 20:26 |
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soren | cjwatson: I think it's your turn. | 20:26 |
soren | stgraber did it recently. | 20:27 |
cjwatson | I'll be on holiday, I'm afraid | 20:27 |
cjwatson | In the middle of the Alps hopefully nowhere near a network connection | 20:27 |
soren | Lovely. | 20:27 |
soren | kees it is. | 20:27 |
soren | #agreed Kees to chair next meeting | 20:27 |
soren | #topic AOB? | 20:28 |
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cjwatson | Nowt from me | 20:28 |
soren | #endmeeting adjourned | 20:28 |
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meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Aug 5 20:28:28 2013 UTC. | 20:28 |
meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-08-05-20.10.moin.txt | 20:28 |
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soren | Thanks all. | 20:28 |
cjwatson | Thanks | 20:28 |
stgraber | cjwatson: we actually have very good 3G/LTE up there ;) though you clearly should enjoy your vacation and skip on IRC for a bit! | 20:52 |
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