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jdstrandhi!16:36
tyhickshello16:36
jdstrand#startmeeting16:36
meetingologyMeeting started Mon Aug  5 16:36:34 2013 UTC.  The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:36
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jdstrandThe meeting agenda can be found at:16:36
jdstrand[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting16:36
jdstrand[TOPIC] Announcements16:36
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jdstrandBenjamin Drung (bdrung) provided updates for precise-raring for vlc (LP: 1186780) Your work is very much appreciated and will keep Ubuntu users secure. Great job! :)16:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1186780 in vlc (Ubuntu Raring) "Please update VLC (for security issues)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118678016:36
jdstrand[TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report16:37
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jdstrandI'll go first16:37
jdstrandI'm on community this week16:37
jdstrandI have some embargoed updates16:37
jdstrandpatch piloting for august16:38
jdstrandand various audits16:38
jdstrandtyhicks: you're up16:38
tyhicksI'll have a little sync up with jj, when he returns, and then I'll upload apparmor and dbus with DBus mediation support16:39
tyhicksthere's one known bug in dbus mediation and eavesdropping16:39
tyhicksI'll fix that this week16:39
tyhicks(but it isn't a blocker for uploading)16:39
tyhicksI'll focus on my content hub work items this week16:40
tyhicksI think that's it16:40
tyhickssarnold: you're up16:40
sarnoldI'm in the happy place this week, so it'll be more MIR audits and apparmor patch reviews (thanks tyhicks :)16:41
tyhicksOh yeah, I think there's a couple remaining (small) patches that need to be forwarded to the list16:41
tyhicksI'll dig those out16:41
sarnoldI'm also likely to spend more time on the dnsmasq-resolvconf-confetti bomb, that hting makes such a mess over all my VMs.16:42
sarnoldcurrently, hard-coded IPs in /etc/hosts are mostly serving, but after the -27 kernel ate some of my VM images, I had to bring up some of the VMs again multiple times to get different IPs for them. what a pain.16:43
jdstrandsarnold: I think some of that may be a one time sorta thing16:43
sarnoldjdstrand: yeah, I'm hopeful to keep it that way. :)16:43
sarnoldI think that's me, chrisccoulson, your turn :)16:44
chrisccoulsonhi16:44
jdstrandsarnold: eg, maybe just start over-- clean our /etc/hosts of the static ones, then start each vm, one at a time, and ssh-keygen -R as needed until at the end you have all of them with new ip addresses16:44
jdstrandsarnold: we can talk more elasewhere if you want16:44
jdstrands/elasewhere/elsewhere/16:44
chrisccoulsonso, this week is going to be a fun week. it's firefox and thunderbird release day tomorrow, so i'm currently working on that16:44
sarnold\o/16:44
chrisccoulsoni've also been working on adding greasemonkey style user script support to oxide, which i plan to use for the unit tests (and which will probably form the basis of webapps)16:45
jdstrandchrisccoulson: was there anything for them coming out of blackhat/defcon?16:45
chrisccoulsonjdstrand, not that i'm aware of16:45
jdstrandgood for them :)16:45
chrisccoulsoni shall get chromium out this week as well16:46
chrisccoulsonand i've got a meeting about the UA string for the mobile browser16:47
chrisccoulsoni think that's me done16:47
sarnoldjdstrand: the only thing I saw come out of blackhat for the browsers was "hey javascript lets you do a lot of amazing things, and advertising networks make it easy to rent time in a few million browsers..."16:47
jdstrandchrisccoulson: there may be some more oxide discussions too-- I plan on poking at the thread16:48
jdstrandsarnold: neat. I look forward to hearing from mdeslaur and sbeattie when they get back :)16:48
sarnoldjdstrand: me too :)16:48
jdstrand[TOPIC] Highlighted packages16:48
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jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/batmand.html16:49
jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/aria2.html16:49
jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/unbound.html16:49
jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/squidclamav.html16:49
jdstrandhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/policycoreutils.html16:49
jdstrandThe highlighted packages for this week are ^16:49
jdstrandThe Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Securi16:49
jdstrand[TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions16:49
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jdstrandDoes anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?16:49
jdstrandtyhicks, sarnold, chrisccoulson: thanks!16:55
jdstrand#endmeeting16:55
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meetingologyMeeting ended Mon Aug  5 16:55:16 2013 UTC.16:55
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sarnoldthanks jdstrand :)16:55
tyhicksthanks16:55
soreno/20:00
cjwatsonhi20:00
cjwatsonDo we have quorum?  kees, stgraber?20:03
cjwatson(And whose turn is it to chair anyway?)20:03
* ScottK hopes so.20:03
ScottKWith the email votes there may be a quorum on the extending PPU question even if there generally isn't for other business.20:04
sorenDon't know whose turn it is to chair.20:08
sorenI guess I can do it.20:10
soren#startmeeting Technical Board20:10
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sorenpitti and mdz sent apologies, IIRC.20:10
soren#topic Action review.20:11
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* soren reviews log20:11
sorenKees to review outstanding provisional MREs -- carried over20:12
cjwatsonFYI, I've implemented the "devel" series alias, pending review: https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/series-alias/+merge/17810320:13
sorenAh, lovely.20:13
cjwatsonThe details of how PPAs are handled turned out to require a fair amount of debate over beer between wgrant and me, but I think we got it worked out.20:13
sorenI don't see other action items.20:13
soren#topic extending PPU rights to non-members20:14
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sorenDoes anyone want to discuss this further?20:15
cjwatsonI just +1ed it by mail20:15
sorenI noticed. Does that mean the motion is carried? I've not counted the votes.20:16
cjwatsonkees didn't explicitly say +1 but seemed positive.20:16
cjwatsonpitti voted +1.20:16
cjwatsonNo other TB votes20:16
sorenI'd be happy to +1 it, even though it seems a little backwards to me.20:17
cjwatsonCan you elaborate on that?20:17
sorenI never really looked at PPU rights as something that would be further gated on having a sustained, significant contribution.20:17
ScottKIt's already gated that way.20:17
ScottKWe're trying to relax the gate.20:18
sorenIn other words, I didn't think people needed to qualify for membership to get PPU rights.20:18
sorenI thought getting PPU rights would grant you membership.20:18
ScottKNot if you don't qualify for membership.20:18
sorenScottK: I realise. My point is that I never thought that was the intent to begin with. So I'm happy to approve it, since I thought this was the intent all along.20:18
ScottKPPU doesn't change the membership requiremnts.20:18
cjwatsonOr to put it another way: It does grant membership, which is why you need to qualify for it as part of PPU membership.20:18
cjwatson*PPU rights20:19
ScottKYes20:19
sorenRight, and I thought having PPU rights was the qualification.20:19
sorenIn itself.20:19
sorenBut that discussion is rather pointless now, I guess.20:20
sorenAt least it's irrelevant to the issue at hand.20:20
stgrabersorry wasn't paying very close attention to IRC (on vacation), +1 on the PPU proposal (my concerns were addressed while we were discussing this within the DMB)20:20
ScottKMark also gave it a +1 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2013-July/001688.html20:20
sorenWhat's the protocol here? Do we wait for kees to formally vote?20:21
cjwatsonsoren: You, me, pitti, and stgraber makes 4/6, so carried.20:21
sorenCool.20:22
sorenEr..20:22
sorenWhat's the meetbot magic to record that?20:22
cjwatson"#agreed", I think20:22
soren#agreed Extending PPU rights to non-members approved by cjwatson, pitti, soren and stgraber20:22
soren#accepted Extending PPU rights to non-members approved by cjwatson, pitti, soren and stgraber20:23
soren#halp20:23
cjwatsonMeh, we can work it out without the metadata, I'm sure :)20:23
sorenTrue :)20:24
soren#topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item)20:24
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sorenNothing, afaics.20:25
soren#topic Check up on community bugs (standing item)20:25
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sorenNothing20:25
cjwatsonCool.20:25
soren#topic Select a chair for the next meeting20:26
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sorencjwatson: I think it's your turn.20:26
sorenstgraber did it recently.20:27
cjwatsonI'll be on holiday, I'm afraid20:27
cjwatsonIn the middle of the Alps hopefully nowhere near a network connection20:27
sorenLovely.20:27
sorenkees it is.20:27
soren#agreed Kees to chair next meeting20:27
soren#topic AOB?20:28
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cjwatsonNowt from me20:28
soren#endmeeting adjourned20:28
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meetingologyMeeting ended Mon Aug  5 20:28:28 2013 UTC.20:28
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sorenThanks all.20:28
cjwatsonThanks20:28
stgrabercjwatson: we actually have very good 3G/LTE up there ;) though you clearly should enjoy your vacation and skip on IRC for a bit!20:52

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