=== a16g_ is now known as ypwong === doko_ is now known as doko === lhave is now known as lhavelund === a16g_ is now known as ypwong === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === psivaa_ is now known as psivaa [16:36] hi! [16:36] hello [16:36] #startmeeting [16:36] Meeting started Mon Aug 5 16:36:34 2013 UTC. The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:36] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [16:36] The meeting agenda can be found at: [16:36] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting [16:36] [TOPIC] Announcements === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Announcements [16:36] Benjamin Drung (bdrung) provided updates for precise-raring for vlc (LP: 1186780) Your work is very much appreciated and will keep Ubuntu users secure. Great job! :) [16:36] Launchpad bug 1186780 in vlc (Ubuntu Raring) "Please update VLC (for security issues)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1186780 [16:37] [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly stand-up report [16:37] I'll go first [16:37] I'm on community this week [16:37] I have some embargoed updates [16:38] patch piloting for august [16:38] and various audits [16:38] tyhicks: you're up [16:39] I'll have a little sync up with jj, when he returns, and then I'll upload apparmor and dbus with DBus mediation support [16:39] there's one known bug in dbus mediation and eavesdropping [16:39] I'll fix that this week [16:39] (but it isn't a blocker for uploading) [16:40] I'll focus on my content hub work items this week [16:40] I think that's it [16:40] sarnold: you're up [16:41] I'm in the happy place this week, so it'll be more MIR audits and apparmor patch reviews (thanks tyhicks :) [16:41] Oh yeah, I think there's a couple remaining (small) patches that need to be forwarded to the list [16:41] I'll dig those out [16:42] I'm also likely to spend more time on the dnsmasq-resolvconf-confetti bomb, that hting makes such a mess over all my VMs. [16:43] currently, hard-coded IPs in /etc/hosts are mostly serving, but after the -27 kernel ate some of my VM images, I had to bring up some of the VMs again multiple times to get different IPs for them. what a pain. [16:43] sarnold: I think some of that may be a one time sorta thing [16:43] jdstrand: yeah, I'm hopeful to keep it that way. :) [16:44] I think that's me, chrisccoulson, your turn :) [16:44] hi [16:44] sarnold: eg, maybe just start over-- clean our /etc/hosts of the static ones, then start each vm, one at a time, and ssh-keygen -R as needed until at the end you have all of them with new ip addresses [16:44] sarnold: we can talk more elasewhere if you want [16:44] s/elasewhere/elsewhere/ [16:44] so, this week is going to be a fun week. it's firefox and thunderbird release day tomorrow, so i'm currently working on that [16:44] \o/ [16:45] i've also been working on adding greasemonkey style user script support to oxide, which i plan to use for the unit tests (and which will probably form the basis of webapps) [16:45] chrisccoulson: was there anything for them coming out of blackhat/defcon? [16:45] jdstrand, not that i'm aware of [16:45] good for them :) [16:46] i shall get chromium out this week as well [16:47] and i've got a meeting about the UA string for the mobile browser [16:47] i think that's me done [16:47] jdstrand: the only thing I saw come out of blackhat for the browsers was "hey javascript lets you do a lot of amazing things, and advertising networks make it easy to rent time in a few million browsers..." [16:48] chrisccoulson: there may be some more oxide discussions too-- I plan on poking at the thread [16:48] sarnold: neat. I look forward to hearing from mdeslaur and sbeattie when they get back :) [16:48] jdstrand: me too :) [16:48] [TOPIC] Highlighted packages === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Highlighted packages [16:49] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/batmand.html [16:49] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/aria2.html [16:49] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/unbound.html [16:49] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/squidclamav.html [16:49] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/policycoreutils.html [16:49] The highlighted packages for this week are ^ [16:49] The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Securi [16:49] [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Miscellaneous and Questions [16:49] Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? [16:55] tyhicks, sarnold, chrisccoulson: thanks! [16:55] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:55] Meeting ended Mon Aug 5 16:55:16 2013 UTC. [16:55] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-08-05-16.36.moin.txt [16:55] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-08-05-16.36.html [16:55] thanks jdstrand :) [16:55] thanks [20:00] o/ [20:00] hi [20:03] Do we have quorum? kees, stgraber? [20:03] (And whose turn is it to chair anyway?) [20:03] * ScottK hopes so. [20:04] With the email votes there may be a quorum on the extending PPU question even if there generally isn't for other business. [20:08] Don't know whose turn it is to chair. [20:10] I guess I can do it. [20:10] #startmeeting Technical Board [20:10] Meeting started Mon Aug 5 20:10:35 2013 UTC. The chair is soren. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [20:10] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Technical Board Meeting | Current topic: [20:10] pitti and mdz sent apologies, IIRC. [20:11] #topic Action review. === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Technical Board Meeting | Current topic: Action review. [20:11] * soren reviews log [20:12] Kees to review outstanding provisional MREs -- carried over [20:13] FYI, I've implemented the "devel" series alias, pending review: https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/series-alias/+merge/178103 [20:13] Ah, lovely. [20:13] The details of how PPAs are handled turned out to require a fair amount of debate over beer between wgrant and me, but I think we got it worked out. [20:13] I don't see other action items. [20:14] #topic extending PPU rights to non-members === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Technical Board Meeting | Current topic: extending PPU rights to non-members [20:15] Does anyone want to discuss this further? [20:15] I just +1ed it by mail [20:16] I noticed. Does that mean the motion is carried? I've not counted the votes. [20:16] kees didn't explicitly say +1 but seemed positive. [20:16] pitti voted +1. [20:16] No other TB votes [20:17] I'd be happy to +1 it, even though it seems a little backwards to me. [20:17] Can you elaborate on that? [20:17] I never really looked at PPU rights as something that would be further gated on having a sustained, significant contribution. [20:17] It's already gated that way. [20:18] We're trying to relax the gate. [20:18] In other words, I didn't think people needed to qualify for membership to get PPU rights. [20:18] I thought getting PPU rights would grant you membership. [20:18] Not if you don't qualify for membership. [20:18] ScottK: I realise. My point is that I never thought that was the intent to begin with. So I'm happy to approve it, since I thought this was the intent all along. [20:18] PPU doesn't change the membership requiremnts. [20:18] Or to put it another way: It does grant membership, which is why you need to qualify for it as part of PPU membership. [20:19] *PPU rights [20:19] Yes [20:19] Right, and I thought having PPU rights was the qualification. [20:19] In itself. [20:20] But that discussion is rather pointless now, I guess. [20:20] At least it's irrelevant to the issue at hand. [20:20] sorry wasn't paying very close attention to IRC (on vacation), +1 on the PPU proposal (my concerns were addressed while we were discussing this within the DMB) [20:20] Mark also gave it a +1 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2013-July/001688.html [20:21] What's the protocol here? Do we wait for kees to formally vote? [20:21] soren: You, me, pitti, and stgraber makes 4/6, so carried. [20:22] Cool. [20:22] Er.. [20:22] What's the meetbot magic to record that? [20:22] "#agreed", I think [20:22] #agreed Extending PPU rights to non-members approved by cjwatson, pitti, soren and stgraber [20:23] #accepted Extending PPU rights to non-members approved by cjwatson, pitti, soren and stgraber [20:23] #halp [20:23] Meh, we can work it out without the metadata, I'm sure :) [20:24] True :) [20:24] #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Technical Board Meeting | Current topic: Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item) [20:25] Nothing, afaics. [20:25] #topic Check up on community bugs (standing item) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Technical Board Meeting | Current topic: Check up on community bugs (standing item) [20:25] Nothing [20:25] Cool. [20:26] #topic Select a chair for the next meeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Technical Board Meeting | Current topic: Select a chair for the next meeting [20:26] cjwatson: I think it's your turn. [20:27] stgraber did it recently. [20:27] I'll be on holiday, I'm afraid [20:27] In the middle of the Alps hopefully nowhere near a network connection [20:27] Lovely. [20:27] kees it is. [20:27] #agreed Kees to chair next meeting [20:28] #topic AOB? === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | Technical Board Meeting | Current topic: AOB? [20:28] Nowt from me [20:28] #endmeeting adjourned === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [20:28] Meeting ended Mon Aug 5 20:28:28 2013 UTC. [20:28] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-08-05-20.10.moin.txt [20:28] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-08-05-20.10.html [20:28] Thanks all. [20:28] Thanks [20:52] cjwatson: we actually have very good 3G/LTE up there ;) though you clearly should enjoy your vacation and skip on IRC for a bit!