[16:36] <jdstrand> hi!
[16:36] <tyhicks> hello
[16:36] <jdstrand> #startmeeting
[16:36] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Aug  5 16:36:34 2013 UTC.  The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:36] <jdstrand> The meeting agenda can be found at:
[16:36] <jdstrand> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting
[16:36] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Announcements
[16:36] <jdstrand> Benjamin Drung (bdrung) provided updates for precise-raring for vlc (LP: 1186780) Your work is very much appreciated and will keep Ubuntu users secure. Great job! :)
[16:37] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report
[16:37] <jdstrand> I'll go first
[16:37] <jdstrand> I'm on community this week
[16:37] <jdstrand> I have some embargoed updates
[16:38] <jdstrand> patch piloting for august
[16:38] <jdstrand> and various audits
[16:38] <jdstrand> tyhicks: you're up
[16:39] <tyhicks> I'll have a little sync up with jj, when he returns, and then I'll upload apparmor and dbus with DBus mediation support
[16:39] <tyhicks> there's one known bug in dbus mediation and eavesdropping
[16:39] <tyhicks> I'll fix that this week
[16:39] <tyhicks> (but it isn't a blocker for uploading)
[16:40] <tyhicks> I'll focus on my content hub work items this week
[16:40] <tyhicks> I think that's it
[16:40] <tyhicks> sarnold: you're up
[16:41] <sarnold> I'm in the happy place this week, so it'll be more MIR audits and apparmor patch reviews (thanks tyhicks :)
[16:41] <tyhicks> Oh yeah, I think there's a couple remaining (small) patches that need to be forwarded to the list
[16:41] <tyhicks> I'll dig those out
[16:42] <sarnold> I'm also likely to spend more time on the dnsmasq-resolvconf-confetti bomb, that hting makes such a mess over all my VMs.
[16:43] <sarnold> currently, hard-coded IPs in /etc/hosts are mostly serving, but after the -27 kernel ate some of my VM images, I had to bring up some of the VMs again multiple times to get different IPs for them. what a pain.
[16:43] <jdstrand> sarnold: I think some of that may be a one time sorta thing
[16:43] <sarnold> jdstrand: yeah, I'm hopeful to keep it that way. :)
[16:44] <sarnold> I think that's me, chrisccoulson, your turn :)
[16:44] <chrisccoulson> hi
[16:44] <jdstrand> sarnold: eg, maybe just start over-- clean our /etc/hosts of the static ones, then start each vm, one at a time, and ssh-keygen -R as needed until at the end you have all of them with new ip addresses
[16:44] <jdstrand> sarnold: we can talk more elasewhere if you want
[16:44] <jdstrand> s/elasewhere/elsewhere/
[16:44] <chrisccoulson> so, this week is going to be a fun week. it's firefox and thunderbird release day tomorrow, so i'm currently working on that
[16:44] <sarnold> \o/
[16:45] <chrisccoulson> i've also been working on adding greasemonkey style user script support to oxide, which i plan to use for the unit tests (and which will probably form the basis of webapps)
[16:45] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: was there anything for them coming out of blackhat/defcon?
[16:45] <chrisccoulson> jdstrand, not that i'm aware of
[16:45] <jdstrand> good for them :)
[16:46] <chrisccoulson> i shall get chromium out this week as well
[16:47] <chrisccoulson> and i've got a meeting about the UA string for the mobile browser
[16:47] <chrisccoulson> i think that's me done
[16:47] <sarnold> jdstrand: the only thing I saw come out of blackhat for the browsers was "hey javascript lets you do a lot of amazing things, and advertising networks make it easy to rent time in a few million browsers..."
[16:48] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: there may be some more oxide discussions too-- I plan on poking at the thread
[16:48] <jdstrand> sarnold: neat. I look forward to hearing from mdeslaur and sbeattie when they get back :)
[16:48] <sarnold> jdstrand: me too :)
[16:48] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Highlighted packages
[16:49] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/batmand.html
[16:49] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/aria2.html
[16:49] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/unbound.html
[16:49] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/squidclamav.html
[16:49] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/policycoreutils.html
[16:49] <jdstrand> The highlighted packages for this week are ^
[16:49] <jdstrand> The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Securi
[16:49] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions
[16:49] <jdstrand> Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?
[16:55] <jdstrand> tyhicks, sarnold, chrisccoulson: thanks!
[16:55] <jdstrand> #endmeeting
[16:55] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Aug  5 16:55:16 2013 UTC.
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[16:55] <sarnold> thanks jdstrand :)
[16:55] <tyhicks> thanks
[20:00] <soren> o/
[20:00] <cjwatson> hi
[20:03] <cjwatson> Do we have quorum?  kees, stgraber?
[20:03] <cjwatson> (And whose turn is it to chair anyway?)
[20:03]  * ScottK hopes so.
[20:04] <ScottK> With the email votes there may be a quorum on the extending PPU question even if there generally isn't for other business.
[20:08] <soren> Don't know whose turn it is to chair.
[20:10] <soren> I guess I can do it.
[20:10] <soren> #startmeeting Technical Board
[20:10] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Aug  5 20:10:35 2013 UTC.  The chair is soren. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[20:10] <soren> pitti and mdz sent apologies, IIRC.
[20:11] <soren> #topic Action review.
[20:11]  * soren reviews log
[20:12] <soren> Kees to review outstanding provisional MREs -- carried over
[20:13] <cjwatson> FYI, I've implemented the "devel" series alias, pending review: https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/series-alias/+merge/178103
[20:13] <soren> Ah, lovely.
[20:13] <cjwatson> The details of how PPAs are handled turned out to require a fair amount of debate over beer between wgrant and me, but I think we got it worked out.
[20:13] <soren> I don't see other action items.
[20:14] <soren> #topic extending PPU rights to non-members
[20:15] <soren> Does anyone want to discuss this further?
[20:15] <cjwatson> I just +1ed it by mail
[20:16] <soren> I noticed. Does that mean the motion is carried? I've not counted the votes.
[20:16] <cjwatson> kees didn't explicitly say +1 but seemed positive.
[20:16] <cjwatson> pitti voted +1.
[20:16] <cjwatson> No other TB votes
[20:17] <soren> I'd be happy to +1 it, even though it seems a little backwards to me.
[20:17] <cjwatson> Can you elaborate on that?
[20:17] <soren> I never really looked at PPU rights as something that would be further gated on having a sustained, significant contribution.
[20:17] <ScottK> It's already gated that way.
[20:18] <ScottK> We're trying to relax the gate.
[20:18] <soren> In other words, I didn't think people needed to qualify for membership to get PPU rights.
[20:18] <soren> I thought getting PPU rights would grant you membership.
[20:18] <ScottK> Not if you don't qualify for membership.
[20:18] <soren> ScottK: I realise. My point is that I never thought that was the intent to begin with. So I'm happy to approve it, since I thought this was the intent all along.
[20:18] <ScottK> PPU doesn't change the membership requiremnts.
[20:18] <cjwatson> Or to put it another way: It does grant membership, which is why you need to qualify for it as part of PPU membership.
[20:19] <cjwatson> *PPU rights
[20:19] <ScottK> Yes
[20:19] <soren> Right, and I thought having PPU rights was the qualification.
[20:19] <soren> In itself.
[20:20] <soren> But that discussion is rather pointless now, I guess.
[20:20] <soren> At least it's irrelevant to the issue at hand.
[20:20] <stgraber> sorry wasn't paying very close attention to IRC (on vacation), +1 on the PPU proposal (my concerns were addressed while we were discussing this within the DMB)
[20:20] <ScottK> Mark also gave it a +1 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2013-July/001688.html
[20:21] <soren> What's the protocol here? Do we wait for kees to formally vote?
[20:21] <cjwatson> soren: You, me, pitti, and stgraber makes 4/6, so carried.
[20:22] <soren> Cool.
[20:22] <soren> Er..
[20:22] <soren> What's the meetbot magic to record that?
[20:22] <cjwatson> "#agreed", I think
[20:22] <soren> #agreed Extending PPU rights to non-members approved by cjwatson, pitti, soren and stgraber
[20:23] <soren> #accepted Extending PPU rights to non-members approved by cjwatson, pitti, soren and stgraber
[20:23] <soren> #halp
[20:23] <cjwatson> Meh, we can work it out without the metadata, I'm sure :)
[20:24] <soren> True :)
[20:24] <soren> #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item)
[20:25] <soren> Nothing, afaics.
[20:25] <soren> #topic Check up on community bugs (standing item)
[20:25] <soren> Nothing
[20:25] <cjwatson> Cool.
[20:26] <soren> #topic Select a chair for the next meeting
[20:26] <soren> cjwatson: I think it's your turn.
[20:27] <soren> stgraber did it recently.
[20:27] <cjwatson> I'll be on holiday, I'm afraid
[20:27] <cjwatson> In the middle of the Alps hopefully nowhere near a network connection
[20:27] <soren> Lovely.
[20:27] <soren> kees it is.
[20:27] <soren> #agreed Kees to chair next meeting
[20:28] <soren> #topic AOB?
[20:28] <cjwatson> Nowt from me
[20:28] <soren> #endmeeting adjourned
[20:28] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Aug  5 20:28:28 2013 UTC.
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[20:28] <soren> Thanks all.
[20:28] <cjwatson> Thanks
[20:52] <stgraber> cjwatson: we actually have very good 3G/LTE up there ;) though you clearly should enjoy your vacation and skip on IRC for a bit!