[00:02] <IdleOne> for some reason I am unable to /mode +b *!*@187.34.122.101$##fix_your_connection. in #ubuntu
[00:03] <IdleOne> heh a rogue .
[04:44] <bazhang> +r time
[08:54] <ikonia> exit
[08:54] <ikonia> oops
[10:15] <ikonia> did anyone else notice gksudo is gone in 13.04
[10:18] <Tm_T> ikonia: hm?
[10:18] <DJones> I hadn't, but I normally use sudo nano, looks like you have to install the gksu package & gksudo is a sym link to gksu
[10:18] <Tm_T> ^
[10:19] <ikonia> yes, but as it's "bad" to launch gui's without it ??? why is it missing
[10:19] <Tm_T> ikonia: from default install?
[10:19] <ikonia> I don't see anything in the documentation to suggest a fix for the gui config files ending up in /root
[10:19] <ikonia> Tm_T: yes
[10:19] <ikonia> a user reported it and I just looked on my test box and it's not there either
[10:20] <tsimpson> I think there is a move to pkexec
[10:20] <Tm_T> ikonia: gksu seems to be in defaut install
[10:20] <DJones> I'm just reading this http://askubuntu.com/questions/284306/why-is-gksu-no-longer-installed-by-default-in-13-04
[10:20] <Tm_T> and gksu should provide gksudo command too
[10:20] <ikonia> Tm_T: not on my ubuntu 13.04 test machine, or the user in #ubuntu's
[10:20] <Tm_T> ikonia: it's listed in manifest file AFAICS
[10:21] <k1l> its bad to use sudo with gui, but i think they switched from gksudo to gksu?
[10:21] <Tm_T> ikonia: see http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.manifest
[10:21] <ikonia> k1l: neither are installed by default
[10:22] <Tm_T> ikonia: why it's in the image then if not installed? bizarre
[10:22] <ikonia> Tm_T: that's the question I'm asking
[10:22] <ikonia> (in directly)
[10:22] <tsimpson> it's part of the ubutnu-live task
[10:23] <Tm_T> tsimpson: so it's used during livecd but not on installed system?
[10:23] <DJones> The suggestion seems to be that gksu isn't recommended anymore and that may be removed in future
[10:23] <tsimpson> it's installed on the live CD, just not installed by default to the "real" system
[10:23]  * tsimpson knows not why
[10:24] <Tm_T> interesting to remove functionality without providing replacement
[10:24] <tsimpson> you can use pkexec
[10:25] <tsimpson> it uses PolicyKit instead of su
[10:25] <tsimpson> +do
[10:28] <tsimpson> it seems quite a bit more complex to use than *su{,do} though
[10:28] <ikonia> rightly so though, as it depends on policies, rather than a setup basic sudo rules
[13:57] <Myrtti> Yeah I noticed the same in Debia'm
[14:15] <Pici> ikonia: do you search out the weird questions, or do the weird questions only come out when you're active?
[14:37] <ikonia> Pici: which one did I miss ?
[14:37] <ikonia> (I started playing a game as I was bored)
[14:39] <Pici> ikonia: the sudo history person.
[14:39] <ikonia> ahhh
[14:39] <ikonia> I want a shell function to be a command so I can lock it
[14:40] <ikonia> he's messed up his sudoers file now (no doubt trying to lock history) I'd love to tell him "re-install" so they learn the value of a.) not messing b.) taking backups
[16:12] <k1l> jdale, wasnt he there the last days? and now its icelite and talking about " a friend" and the ident is jdale again?
[16:18] <ikonia> yes, same host
[16:19] <ikonia> he even just connected as his old nick and re-connected
[16:19] <ikonia> 17:01 -!- jdale [~jdale@pool-173-66-166-124.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit]
[16:19] <ikonia> 17:02 -!- icelite [~jdale@pool-173-66-166-124.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu