[00:02] for some reason I am unable to /mode +b *!*@187.34.122.101$##fix_your_connection. in #ubuntu [00:03] heh a rogue . [04:43] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1506 users, 17 overflows, 1523 limit)) [04:43] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join (1502 users, 17 overflows, 1519 limit)) [04:44] +r time [05:25] In ubottu, jose said: no derivative is derivatives === lhave is now known as lhavelund [08:54] exit [08:54] oops [10:15] did anyone else notice gksudo is gone in 13.04 [10:18] ikonia: hm? [10:18] I hadn't, but I normally use sudo nano, looks like you have to install the gksu package & gksudo is a sym link to gksu [10:18] ^ [10:19] yes, but as it's "bad" to launch gui's without it ??? why is it missing [10:19] ikonia: from default install? [10:19] I don't see anything in the documentation to suggest a fix for the gui config files ending up in /root [10:19] Tm_T: yes [10:19] a user reported it and I just looked on my test box and it's not there either [10:20] I think there is a move to pkexec [10:20] ikonia: gksu seems to be in defaut install [10:20] I'm just reading this http://askubuntu.com/questions/284306/why-is-gksu-no-longer-installed-by-default-in-13-04 [10:20] and gksu should provide gksudo command too [10:20] Tm_T: not on my ubuntu 13.04 test machine, or the user in #ubuntu's [10:20] ikonia: it's listed in manifest file AFAICS [10:21] its bad to use sudo with gui, but i think they switched from gksudo to gksu? [10:21] ikonia: see http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.manifest [10:21] k1l: neither are installed by default [10:22] ikonia: why it's in the image then if not installed? bizarre [10:22] Tm_T: that's the question I'm asking [10:22] (in directly) [10:22] it's part of the ubutnu-live task [10:23] tsimpson: so it's used during livecd but not on installed system? [10:23] The suggestion seems to be that gksu isn't recommended anymore and that may be removed in future [10:23] it's installed on the live CD, just not installed by default to the "real" system [10:23] * tsimpson knows not why [10:24] interesting to remove functionality without providing replacement [10:24] you can use pkexec [10:25] it uses PolicyKit instead of su [10:25] +do [10:28] it seems quite a bit more complex to use than *su{,do} though [10:28] rightly so though, as it depends on policies, rather than a setup basic sudo rules [13:57] Yeah I noticed the same in Debia'm [14:15] ikonia: do you search out the weird questions, or do the weird questions only come out when you're active? [14:37] Pici: which one did I miss ? [14:37] (I started playing a game as I was bored) [14:39] ikonia: the sudo history person. [14:39] ahhh [14:39] I want a shell function to be a command so I can lock it [14:40] he's messed up his sudoers file now (no doubt trying to lock history) I'd love to tell him "re-install" so they learn the value of a.) not messing b.) taking backups [16:12] jdale, wasnt he there the last days? and now its icelite and talking about " a friend" and the ident is jdale again? [16:18] yes, same host [16:19] he even just connected as his old nick and re-connected [16:19] 17:01 -!- jdale [~jdale@pool-173-66-166-124.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] [16:19] 17:02 -!- icelite [~jdale@pool-173-66-166-124.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [19:03] ActionParsnip called the ops in #ubuntu ()