[08:20] <apw> systemd seems to have some 'stuck' autopkgtest test, jenkins seems to be reporting them complete, but they show RUNNING in britney
[08:22] <cjwatson> jibel: ^-
[08:23] <jibel> apw, cjwatson unstucking
[08:23] <apw> jibel, thanks
[09:55] <psivaa_> cjwatson: xnox: reported bug #1208401 for lvm server smoke test failures from 20130803. Reported against lvm2. Not sure who else to ping :)
[09:55] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1208401 in lvm2 (Ubuntu) "saucy server lvm installations fail to boot " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1208401
[09:56] <xnox> psivaa_: well recent TIL is good to ping as well. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lvm2/+changelog were the images with 2.02.98-1ubuntu3 ok?
[09:57] <xnox> psivaa_: maybe apw and/or roaksoax need a ping about ^
[10:00] <psivaa_> xnox: thanks
[10:15] <didrocks> cjwatson: infinity: I wonder if the chroot isn't stuck: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/9.1.4-0ubuntu6/+build/4845897
[10:33] <cjwatson> didrocks: asked ops, thanks
[10:33] <didrocks> hhyw
[11:49] <xnox> infinity: can you de-new tk8.6 from above ^ that should be the last bits of multiarching tk/tcl s
[12:53] <infinity> xnox: Danke.  Is this tcl/tk multiarch stuff going to end up in Debian so we don't have to carry deltas forever for detecting things in configure, etc?
[13:15] <xnox> infinity: bugs and patches are in bts. It's uploaded in experimental, pending de-newing there. So eventually it will land, hopefully in jessie time frame.
[13:43] <infinity> xnox: jessie's a long way off, one would hope. :P
[15:08] <stokachu> how would i get a python 2.7 application into main if it is not being accepted in a seed update?
[15:09] <stokachu> its a private python module so making it a build dependency on another package in main doesn't make sense
[15:10] <stokachu> bug 1206106 is the one im working on
[15:10] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1206106 in sosreport (Ubuntu) "[MIR] sosreport" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1206106
[15:22] <infinity> stokachu: "Not being accepted in a seed update" how?
[15:22] <infinity> stokachu: It either needs to be seeded, or isn't in main.  There's no in between here.
[15:23] <stokachu> infinity: i was told that python 2.7 wasn't being accepted
[15:24] <stokachu> infinity: i created an MP to see sosreport on cloud-image, desktop, server, and server-ship
[15:25] <stokachu> seed*
[15:25] <infinity> stokachu: python2.7 is in all those tasks already.
[15:25] <infinity> stokachu: Though, we'd prefer not, sure.  I take it porting sosreport to python 3 would be very painful?
[15:25] <stokachu> infinity: not to painful i've started on the port already
[15:26] <stokachu> but im getting some push from cloud guys to have it seeded on cloud-image
[15:28] <infinity> stokachu: So see it for cloud-image.  It's their seed.
[15:28] <infinity> stokachu: Who told you that you can't?
[15:28] <stokachu> infinity: smoser didnt want any new python 2.7 private modules in there
[15:28] <stokachu> and i believe seb128 didn't want any new python 2.7 on the server one
[15:28] <stokachu> or maybe that was desktop, im not sure
[15:29] <seb128> it was desktop
[15:30] <stokachu> seb128: thanks i forgot :D
[15:30] <seb128> I've no say about server
[15:30] <seb128> and don't really care what they do
[15:30] <seb128> but we have been under pressure to drop python2 from the desktop install for some cycle and we are not adding new users
[15:31] <infinity> stokachu: So, which "cloud guys" are asking for it to be added?  Clearly not smoser.  Or is he arguing with himself? ":P
[15:31] <infinity> stokachu: Anyhow, it could be seeded in supported.  It doesn't need to be in any default install to be in main.
[15:32] <stokachu> infinity: so could i get it seeded in supported and then talk to the cloud team about the importance of having it on their seed?
[15:35] <infinity> stokachu: Yeahp.
[15:35] <infinity> stokachu: I'll do it now.
[15:35] <stokachu> infinity: awesome man i appreciate it! was just updating the MP
[15:36] <stokachu> infinity: should i just close this https://code.launchpad.net/~adam-stokes/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.saucy/+merge/177469
[15:37] <infinity> stokachu: Yeah, just ditch the MP, I already committed.
[15:37] <stokachu> infinity: thanks man this helps a lot
[15:38] <infinity> stokachu: And commented on the bug to reflect the current state of... Whatever.
[15:39] <stokachu> infinity: haha love the comment
[15:59] <xnox> stokachu: given that all of openstack is python2.7 it is inevitable to have python2 on server images.
[15:59] <stokachu> xnox: good point
[15:59] <stokachu> med_: ^
[15:59] <xnox> stokachu: ditto cloud-init on cloud images.
[16:01] <med_> nod.
[16:01] <med_> stokachu, thanks.
[16:01] <stokachu> med_: :)
[16:12] <infinity> xnox: Right, but the point is that some product managers would prefer not to accept any *new* python2.7 packages.  The goal is to reduce the number to 0, not use the current >> 0 value to excuse increasing it.
[16:13] <infinity> stokachu: ^
[16:46] <stokachu> infinity: ok sounds good
[20:13] <skellat> infinity: Are you available and willing to take a look at this today perhaps? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-docs/+bug/1207493
[20:13] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1207493 in xubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Documentation does not match shipped system version (11.10 shipped with 12.04)" [High,Confirmed]