=== Guest84363 is now known as wgrant [07:17] veebers, since you've been taken away, shall we skip the sync until you can be back with us? [07:18] veebers, mzanetti unless you have something to update us on ↑? [07:20] Saviq: sure, I intend to catch up with MacSlow but other than that I have nothing really to share [07:21] Saviq: I believe you'll already know that Francis has told me there is hardware coming/put aside for the CI tests (which should drastically improve speeds etc.) [07:21] veebers, for mediumtests? [07:21] Saviq: Also, I recall mzanetti mention that he wouldn't be available for the meeting (as he's on vacation?) [07:22] veebers, right, he's away this week [07:22] Saviq, could we get the proper form factor from unity8? it's a simple call, but i'm not sure what to base it off on the shell side [07:22] Saviq: yes, and maybe more? I'm going to catch up proper with Francis once he's back so will have more info then [07:23] veebers, ok cool [07:23] Saviq: fwiw mzanetti is on leave [07:23] tsdgeos, yeah, just noticed the sudden addition to the leave list ;) [07:24] mhr3, thing is, the shell doesn't know yet, either ;) [07:24] mhr3, what's your current usecase? [07:24] Saviq, home scope wants it, apps do, scopes will need it [07:24] as in scopes scope [07:25] mhr3, meaning phone vs. desktop? [07:25] yea [07:25] mhr3, let's just hardcode "phone" in unity8 for now [07:25] fine with me [07:25] mhr3, we did the same for indicators [07:25] mhr3, cool, you do or we do? [07:25] i will [07:25] mhr3, cheers [07:37] Saviq: do you know if gerry is back today or tomorrow? [07:37] tsdgeos, should be back today, afaik [07:39] tsdgeos, canonicaladmin says so, too [07:39] oki [07:40] * tsdgeos wonders why suddenly 12px in firefox gives me a much smaller font than in the rest of the apps [07:53] sil2100: hi. I had another look at the lucene++ compile problem and haven't been able to reproduce it. I built a package into my PPA with just the ENABLE_STANDARD_ALLOCATOR=ON change without problem. === hikiko is now known as hik|afk [07:54] jamesh: hi! Ok, good point, maybe my system is broken - thanks for the pointer, what I will do is also push my version to a PPA, see if it builds and if yes, I'll push it for sponsoring :) [07:54] jamesh: so I guess we should have the new lucene++ this week [07:54] thanks [07:59] sil2100, we'll also need the media scanner [07:59] afterall lucene is great, but we need the thing that uses it :) [07:59] mhr3: could you e-mail me all the things we would need? Since you mentioned some patches that were needed there ;) [08:00] Or I misunderstood something [08:00] jamesh, could you? ^ you actually got it building :) [08:02] mhr3: I've included packaging updates in my MP for the media scanner. I need to sort out licensing before we can release it to the archive though [08:05] jamesh: mhr3: ok guys, so if you could point me to all the branches in some e-mail I would be really grateful, as I am on holidays this week and only pop-up in the mornings ;) [08:05] jamesh, but it'll still need new-ing etc, sil2100 ^ can you look at it before the license issue is solved? [08:05] mhr3: where can I find it? [08:05] sil2100, jamesh will email you the branches :) [08:06] Neat [08:06] sil2100: https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesh/hollywood/saucy-fixes/+merge/178192 is what I've currently got [08:07] jamesh: thanks! Will look into that later today [08:07] See you around o/ === hik|afk is now known as hikiko [08:24] hmmm [08:25] how do i connect to wifi now? [08:25] i just have a knob to enable/disable [08:25] but how do i seleect the newtork? [08:44] grrrr [08:45] the jenkins machines seem to be diyng as flies [08:45] https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-mediumtests-runner-saucy/1596/console [08:45] who's our contact for that now? [08:45] mmrazik left, right? /me has vague memories [08:48] tsdgeos: fginther and people from his team [08:55] hmmm [08:55] is the background now black?¿ [08:56] tsdgeos: sounds like something has gone wrong for you [08:56] well something regarding the background was merged [08:56] r161 [08:57] ah I thought you meant your desktop background [08:59] but now is fine [09:12] tsdgeos, did your wifi work after all? [09:12] Saviq: yeah, i did reboot the phone and then it is working [09:15] dednick, ping :) [09:15] Cimi: pong [09:21] * tsdgeos is trying mzanetti's ofono's patch but can't get the pin lock screen at all [09:25] tsdgeos: can I help... I have like 20 mins before jumping into the car [09:25] mzanetti: should the PIN thing appear when running with run_on_device or do i need to install it + reboot? [09:26] tsdgeos: 1) SIM card pin is enabled?, did you reboot the phone after entering the SIM card? [09:26] 1) i guess, the Z10 asks for it [09:26] 2) no [09:26] tsdgeos: rild apparently does not support hot-swapping SIM card [09:26] larsu: ping [09:26] mzanetti: booo [09:26] tsdgeos: yep [09:26] mzanetti: ok, let me reboot [09:27] rsalveti: ^ :D [09:27] * greyback is convinced phone battery is still being consumed while phone is "off" [09:27] greyback: well, you can adb shell to it (or at least i can) so most probably yeah :D [09:27] huh? we can adb shell the phone when its off? [09:27] that's scary [09:27] that or i did not find the proper way to shut it down :D [09:28] maybe it has to do with the devel/debug mode being enabled [09:28] tsdgeos: I remove battery, and then put i back in [09:28] greyback: ah... [09:28] it boots when entering battery [09:29] greyback: well, i don't have a battery to remove, and to be honest that may well start it up, the z10 does when you do that [09:29] greyback: press the power button for 4 secs and it should really power off [09:29] mzanetti: wtf?! [09:29] which tbh i hate it [09:29] mzanetti: sometimes it doesnt turn off. need to take battery out. [09:29] that's retarded [09:29] greyback: most phones do that [09:29] greyback: not saying that I like it... [09:29] doesn't make it right :) [09:29] ack [09:30] but explains my confusion [09:30] greyback: you have galaxy nexus? [09:30] dednick: yep [09:30] greyback: mine does the same when plugged into usb [09:31] greyback, when you just pop the battery out and back in, shouldn't turn on [09:31] dednick: in case the phone shouldn't shut down with 4 secs power button, pressing it for 8 secs should do an ACPI power off [09:31] dednick: yep, that I noticed too. Which is ok [09:31] greyback, but indeed it does (to show the charging screen) when you connect to a charger [09:31] tsdgeos: does it work now? [09:32] Saviq: yep that's fair. [09:32] OTOH manta and mako seem to have a hard time of shutting down indeed (I can usually only get them to reboot) [09:32] dednick, can we have a little chat in some mins? [09:32] Cimi: sure [09:32] mzanetti: on it, somehow run_on_device wanted to recompile everything [09:34] LOL no wonder phone wouldn't start. I'd completely removed the battery :D [09:35] mzanetti: yessir, works now [09:35] greyback: lol [09:35] tsdgeos: cool. make sure to read the description of the MR for the known issues. [09:36] and i can even call my landline! [09:36] which i obviosuly couldn't before becuase the sim was locked :D [09:36] tsdgeos: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ofono/+bug/1206941 [09:36] Ubuntu bug 1206941 in ofono (Ubuntu) "[ofono][rild] "Retries" property does not not work" [High,Confirmed] [09:36] tsdgeos: if you're taking over this MR for this week, make sure to watch out for this being fixed [09:37] mzanetti: well, it'd be cool to get this in, someone was asking for it in the ubuntu-phone ml [09:37] yep, seen that [09:37] mzanetti: i'm having some trouble reproducing that wifi issue. it seems to be very flaky. different processes sometimes go into a cpu hungry state and stay there. Sometimes unity8, sometimes chewie and sometimes wpa_supplicant. Going to continue looking today [09:37] I'd love to see this in when I return next week. Even tough the small known issues it still has [09:38] dednick: cool, thanks. Yeah, I agree its a tricky one. But its also a real blocker for dogfooding. [09:38] dednick: maybe Saviq finds some time this week to help a bit on that one ;) [09:39] mzanetti: now go on vacation (and set yourself to away ;-)) [09:39] lol [09:40] just waiting for the shower to be freed before taking one and then driving away [09:42] have a good holiday! [09:42] mzanetti: ^ [09:43] thanks greyback [09:59] dednick: hey, how is it going? [10:02] hmmm [10:03] does make autopilot work for you guys? [10:03] i'm getting [10:03] make[2]: *** No rule to make target `CMakeFiles/install.dir/all', needed by `CMakeFiles/autopilot-shell.dir/all'. Stop. [10:04] larsu: howdy. good thanks. how was gaudec? [10:05] dednick: great! (I'm still at it, but it's only hackfest from now on) [10:05] larsu: ah. ok. [10:05] larsu: we have 2 branches that need looking at to merge into the unitymenumodel code. Also we need to resolve this target+parameter_type discussion. [10:05] dednick: did you get a chance to test my messaging menu branch? [10:06] larsu: no, i fear i have been pulled onto a network problem with the client. [10:06] dednick: yes, I saw the branches. I'll look at them aftre lunch [10:06] dednick: no worries :) [10:06] dednick: target+parameter_type? [10:07] larsu: with ted last week. if target and parameter type dont match, we don't set the action state. [10:07] larsu: if i'm remembering the terms correctly [10:09] dednick: ya, and that's correct behavior. What should the state be set to when the types don't match? [10:09] dednick: the fix there is to make the types match. I told ted that [10:10] dednick: gotta run. bbl [10:11] larsu: yeah. he seems reluctant. :) [10:11] larsu: ok. [10:17] MacSlow: ping [10:17] tsdgeos, poing [10:18] MacSlow: you've run autopilot tests in the pc lately? [10:18] tsdgeos, well yes... but mostly only my notification-tests [10:18] tsdgeos, what's the issue? [10:18] i can't get them to run [10:18] how do you run them? [10:18] Saviq, hey buddy [10:19] Cimi, ho [10:19] Saviq, so last week for the welcome wizard [10:19] tsdgeos, cd unity8/tests/autopilot ; autopilot run [10:19] Saviq, we released it would be great to share code between system settings, indicators, welcome wizard [10:19] Cimi, realized? [10:19] tsdgeos, that's not working for you? [10:19] nope [10:19] Saviq, :P [10:20] Saviq, we could have a meeting after the standup [10:20] with web and nick [10:20] *seb [10:20] tsdgeos, getting any error-output? Paste? [10:20] are you free? [10:20] MacSlow: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5950736/ [10:21] Cimi, I got connection issues today, on 3G, not good for meetings, not gonna make standup, either [10:21] Saviq, ok [10:21] Cimi, can you schedule something for early tomorrow? [10:21] Saviq, sure [10:21] tsdgeos, "MismatchError: None == None" :) hm [10:22] Saviq, I'll put the wizard on hold [10:22] Saviq, but create the project [10:22] Saviq, lp:ubuntu-welcome-wizard or lp:meet-ubuntu ? [10:23] Cimi, you got better people around you to answer that (assuming you're in the office) ;) [10:23] Saviq, nope :P [10:23] Cimi, u-w-w is more informative [10:23] Cimi, so maybe I'd go with that [10:23] +1 for u-w-w [10:23] ok [10:27] MacSlow: whatthe, now it works :-S [10:27] tsdgeos, ah... Murphy is playing games with you ;) [10:38] mzanetti, Saviq anyone else with ListView wisdom. Any idea how the click input is handled? I can't find anything in the docs, and I'm looking to trigger a signal when a delegate is clicked. [10:39] nic-doffay, there is not "clicked" signal in a ListView [10:39] Saviq, yeah I know that much. [10:39] nic-doffay, you need to put it *in* the delegate [10:39] nic-doffay, just use an AbstractButton or a MouseArea, depending on what makes sense [10:40] Saviq, I see the AbstractButton has a MouseArea, makes sense to use that in this situation. ta! === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:02] Please merge https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/unity/adjust-to-ubiquity-desktop-rename/+merge/178152 [11:02] as otherwise, currently installer icon is missing from the launcher on live cds [11:12] Saviq, so far there's only the template of the qml files, needs the functionality [11:12] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-welcome-wizard [11:12] Cimi, k [11:21] mzanetti, ping === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [11:28] Cimi, he's away [11:28] Saviq, ok [11:28] seb128, I think I need an help packaging ubuntu-settings.components [11:29] Cimi, where need help means that you have questions or that you need somebody to package it for you? [11:29] seb128, the latte :P [11:29] like, sure you can do better than me in creating the deb [11:29] avoid time spent on fixing it :) [11:29] didrocks, Mirv: ^ [11:30] but I can give it a go if you want [11:30] Cimi, no, that's fine, I agree there is no point making you waste time on packaging, let's the packagers sort that and you focus on your code [11:30] Cimi: agreed, can you point mirv to the source branches? [11:31] Mirv, lp:ubuntu-settings.components [11:31] ubuntu-settings-components [11:31] it's going to be only used by ubuntu-system-settings or anything else? [11:40] didrocks, indicators [11:40] too [11:40] Cimi: ok, so maybe those components needs to be part of the sdk stack? [11:40] didrocks, external to sdk though [11:41] Cimi: just an internal implementation, yeah [11:41] didrocks, they are more [11:41] complex... [11:41] sdk should have buttons and so [11:41] not complex widgets like those [11:41] ok, but I guess we can dive that into the sdk or indicator stack, we just need to ensure that the settings stack deps on that one [11:41] Mirv: FYI ^ [11:44] sdk seems it would make sense [11:44] they are somewhat sdk components [11:45] (agreed) [11:53] ok, let's put that on the list [11:53] (doing) [12:11] dednick: why are you exposing the action name? I'm trying to keep the changes to gtkmenutrackeritem minimal... [12:11] larsu: we need it for autopilot tests. [12:12] larsu: we need object names to be able to select the controls by their action name. (as we have no other handle to differentiate one control from anohter) [12:13] dednick: hm, interesting. The menu item's label is not enough? [12:13] dednick: ah, got it. Oh well, it doesn't hurt that much [12:13] larsu: might not have a label [12:13] dednick: right [12:13] dednick: are you married to the updateState() name? We use change_state() and I prefer using the same terminology to not confuse people === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:16] larsu: change_state is ok for me. [12:17] mzanetti: think i may have found the problem with the cpu usage [12:17] dednick: okay I'll change that. Thanks for the patch! I'll merge it right away [12:18] larsu: cool. thanks [12:20] mzanetti: looks like infinite animations may not always be ending when destroyed or stopped with "running" parameter. [12:21] mzanetti: eg. the wifi "connectoin waiting" spinner in the network indicator. [12:22] dednick, http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtquick/qml-qtquick2-animation.html#alwaysRunToEnd-prop [12:23] Saviq: By default, the alwaysRunToEnd property is not set. [12:23] dednick, yeah, so when you stop(), it will not complete [12:23] dednick, mzanetti is away, btw [12:23] Saviq: yeah, just saw the holiday sheet [12:24] dednick, I might not have the details of what you're after with the animation, so might be talking crap here ;) [12:24] Saviq: it seems to be continuing to issue redraws. [12:24] Saviq: even if the control has been destroyed. [12:27] dednick, ah, sounds like a bug [12:27] dednick, you mean that if you destroy an animation, it still causes redraws? [12:27] Saviq: that's what it looks like. still looking into it. [12:28] Saviq: if i change it to non-infinate (eg 20 loops) it stops hammering the cpu [12:28] dednick, interesting [12:28] Saviq: when you "running=false" [12:29] Saviq: but only seems to happen "sometimes" [12:30] mterry, o/ thanks for jumping on the powerd thing [12:30] dednick, mhm, might be something doesn't get deleted for some reason [12:31] Saviq: yeah, i'm looking into the qt code. [12:46] Saviq: we'll have tryCompare + msg in 5.2 [12:46] tsdgeos, saw that ;) === _salem is now known as salem_ === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g === bregma_ is now known as bregma === dednick is now known as dednick|lunch === jhodapp is now known as jhodapp|brb [14:00] Saviq, oh btw does this look reasonable? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5951318/ [14:22] mhr3: he's not around (i think he lost his internet) [14:23] hopefully he'll get it once he's back [14:23] mhr3: but i think that goes a bit against the "resposive design" thing we try to avhice (which basically says you shouldn't care if it's a phone or not, only the screen size + perhipehals you have available) === jhodapp|brb is now known as jhodapp [14:25] tsdgeos, right and you don't have a way to distinguish those as of now === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea [14:29] mhr3, I think we should use a Binding { } in ScopeView [14:30] Saviq, hm, maybe in that case you want to do it, i'm sure i'll get it wrong the first 5 times :P [14:31] mhr3, Binding { target: scope; property: "formFactor"; value: "phone" } [14:31] and then i won't update the mock scopes or something :) [14:31] mhr3, mock scopes use ScopeView.qml ;) === dednick|lunch is now known as dednick [14:33] Saviq, better? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5951424/ [14:33] mhr3, yup, looks good [14:34] ok, mping [14:41] https://code.launchpad.net/~mhr3/unity8/scopes-send-form-factor/+merge/178576 [14:52] dednick, ping [14:52] MacSlow: pong === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [15:13] didrocks, where can I see the autopilot recordings again? [15:15] Saviq: http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/autopilot-saucy-daily_release/768/label=autopilot-ati/ [15:15] see the artefacts -> results/autopilot/videos [15:16] didrocks, interesting... [15:17] didrocks, the most interesting thing is that it works on intel :D [15:17] welcome to the world of flackyness/different matchines :p [15:17] machines* [15:18] didrocks, yeah, thing is it fails to log in with a "password" password on ati, but not on intel ;) [15:21] Saviq: just kind of a heads up, fallout from iom wrt design...https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoELdAtqKZMYdHZSZXhPQTVxNUNCc3FvcUtSWFgwRFE#gid=1 [15:21] see "right edge" [15:22] kgunn, yeah, been in that mtg [15:24] didrocks, can I just trigger a rebuild of that failed job? [15:25] didrocks, to see how reproducible it is (locally - it isn't...) [15:28] Saviq: sure, let me do that quickly [15:35] Saviq: passed [15:36] didrocks, yeah, thought so, let's see if it's a single-time failure [15:36] didrocks, only idea I have is that one of the keys didn't actually get delivered to the application [15:36] or maybe in the wrong order [15:36] Saviq: let's see… from experience single-time comes back :) [15:36] didrocks, yeah, I know [15:39] Saviq: anyway, acked the packaging changes [15:39] didrocks, thanks [15:40] yw === rachelliu_ is now known as rachelliu [16:08] could someone take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/unity/adjust-to-ubiquity-desktop-rename/+merge/178152 [16:35] dednick: Cimi ...hey would both of you mind scrubbing this bp [16:35] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-unity-ui-panel [16:36] in terms of what's done & inprogress [16:43] kgunn: sure [16:45] dednick: thanks much [16:46] kgunn: the panel overview no longer exists. can i remove the item "Improve overview to support variable number of indicators" [16:46] absolutely... [16:46] dednick: if its overcome by events [16:46] feel free to make is sane === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [17:08] laptop cpu = sticky molten mess. [17:25] * greyback eod === om26er is now known as om26 === om26 is now known as om26er === olli__ is now known as olli === salem_ is now known as _salem