| === space_ is now known as Space | ||
| sakhi | Morning | 06:38 |
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| Kilos | morning superfly and others | 06:40 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 SilverCode mazal | 07:27 |
| Kilos | morning maiatoday | 07:27 |
| Kilos | wb | 07:27 |
| mazal | Morning all | 07:28 |
| Vince-0 | heyo! | 07:37 |
| Vince-0 | disconnects... | 07:37 |
| inetpro | good moring everyone | 08:04 |
| inetpro | oh and hi Kilos | 08:05 |
| Kilos | morning inetpro | 08:05 |
| Kilos | hi psyatw | 08:15 |
| psyatw | hi KIlos | 08:17 |
| psyatw | hi Vince-0 | 08:17 |
| psyatw | http://www.ubuntu.com/phone | 08:42 |
| psyatw | I´m looking forward to seeing how that works | 08:42 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | hello peeps | 09:29 |
| Squirm | 'lo | 09:42 |
| mazal | Any smart guys around ? | 09:52 |
| mazal | I have installed Ubuntu to my external hdd ( 13.04 , want to have the same os with same docs and mail and all both at work and at home) | 09:53 |
| mazal | At home , it works , but at work I get to the login and when I log in I only see the desktop. No launcher , no top tray or system area | 09:54 |
| mazal | Instinct tell me it can be graphics drivers maybe ? At home , where it was installed , Nvidia's proprierty drivers was installed. | 09:55 |
| Kilos | ai! | 09:55 |
| mazal | So now I think it's those drivers not working at the work pc | 09:55 |
| Kilos | yip | 09:55 |
| mazal | Back at home I tried to deselect that driver in " additional drivers " section , but ubuntu refuse to deselect it | 09:55 |
| Kilos | i read somewhere that happened because of graphics driver | 09:55 |
| mazal | Any ideas ? | 09:56 |
| Kilos | are the graphics cards different | 09:56 |
| mazal | Is there a manual way to remove the nvidia proprietary driver ? | 09:56 |
| mazal | Yes they are Kilos | 09:56 |
| Kilos | both nvidia? | 09:56 |
| mazal | Nope , ati at work | 09:57 |
| Kilos | ai! | 09:57 |
| Kilos | ubuntu not very ati friendly | 09:57 |
| mazal | It might also be an ATI 13.04 thing. | 09:57 |
| Squirm | Kilos: ATI supplies drivers for Ubuntu | 09:57 |
| mazal | I remember when I installed 13.04 for first time at home I had to remove ati card and install nvidia card | 09:58 |
| Squirm | I use them, they're not that great though | 09:58 |
| mazal | ATI's drivers didn't work at all on my ati card at home | 09:58 |
| mazal | Now I think that if I remove the nvidia drivers that ubuntu can work in a default state without screen drivers and might work on both with it's own built-in drivers ? Like when you first install ? | 09:59 |
| Kilos | yeah nouveau driver | 09:59 |
| mazal | But I dunno how to get the nvidia one off | 10:00 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google 13.04 no launcher or top panel with ATI graphics card | 10:00 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "unity - Launcher and panel missing [ubuntu 13.04] - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/288235/launcher-and-panel-missing-ubuntu-13-04 :: "Ubuntu 12.10 shows no launcher or menu - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/208346/ubuntu-12-10-shows-no-launcher-or-menu :: "Unity doesn't load, no Launcher, no Dash appears - Ask Ubuntu" | 10:00 |
| Maaz | http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears :: "After upgrading to… | 10:00 |
| Kilos | nope | 10:00 |
| Kilos | apt-get remove | 10:01 |
| Kilos | what are you using nvidia-173-extras | 10:01 |
| mazal | Can't remember oom , and can't boot it here to see | 10:02 |
| mazal | It was one of the "tested" ones | 10:02 |
| Kilos | most likely 173 or 173-extra | 10:03 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm help the poor man | 10:03 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 10:04 |
| mazal | Oom Kilos the list of problems have been getting so long I had to install win this weekend in dual-boot just to get work done :-( Now this problem also | 10:04 |
| Kilos | when it boots to that blank screen ctrl+alt=f2 to get prompts | 10:05 |
| mazal | Suddenly this weekend video editing also started giving issues | 10:05 |
| Kilos | eish | 10:05 |
| mazal | Had to boot 12.04 to get that done. I am running 3 os's now :-( | 10:05 |
| Kilos | ai! | 10:05 |
| Kilos | you gotta try get to kde im sure it has more tools | 10:06 |
| mazal | Very last time I install these middle releases. from 14.04 gonna stay on LTS and hope it goes better | 10:11 |
| Kilos | are you in the prompt? | 10:12 |
| Kilos | at | 10:12 |
| mazal | I can't Kilos , I will have to shut down and boot that broken one , then I can't get on here | 10:14 |
| Kilos | ah | 10:14 |
| mazal | You have a way to remove the driver in cli ? | 10:14 |
| Kilos | because after ctrl+alt+f2 you can remove nvidia from the terminal | 10:15 |
| mazal | Uhm , ok lemme see if I can boot it on another pc | 10:15 |
| Kilos | also on that blank screen you can ctrl+alf+t for a terminal | 10:16 |
| Kilos | ctrl+alt+t | 10:16 |
| Kilos | then you can lspci and it will show the card in the machine | 10:19 |
| mazal | busy booting | 10:19 |
| mazal | Ok , I'm in terminal | 10:20 |
| mazal | How to remove nvidia drivers ? | 10:20 |
| Kilos | apt-get remove nvidia-173 i hope | 10:21 |
| Kilos | if you used that one | 10:21 |
| mazal | Ish , you hope :-P | 10:21 |
| Kilos | ya man you must know which one you used | 10:22 |
| Kilos | hehe | 10:22 |
| mazal | Wait I was able to get to " additional drivers " | 10:22 |
| mazal | It's actually using ATI open source tested. It automatically changed to that it seems | 10:23 |
| mazal | So it's the same &^%$*&$%^$ ati thing I had at home grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr | 10:23 |
| Kilos | ok activate | 10:23 |
| mazal | It's won't work on this pc :-( | 10:23 |
| Kilos | oh my | 10:23 |
| Kilos | ok you know the card? | 10:23 |
| mazal | Check how stupid this is , that drivers is marked , but it says " no proprietry driver in use " | 10:24 |
| Kilos | maybe one can get the drivers from ati | 10:24 |
| Kilos | its maybe not activated | 10:24 |
| mazal | And I know for a fact the other two listed won't work as those two broke my system so bad the last time I had to re-install | 10:25 |
| Kilos | but you can do aptitude reinstall driver if you have its particulars | 10:25 |
| Kilos | ai! | 10:25 |
| Kilos | you'll have to wait for a clever geek to help you | 10:26 |
| mazal | Thanx for trying oom , at least now I know 13.04 can't do what I need | 10:27 |
| Kilos | mazal, dont the nouveau drivers work | 10:27 |
| mazal | Nouveau doesn't even show here as it's not nvidia | 10:28 |
| Kilos | uninstall ati and nvidia and use nouveau | 10:28 |
| Kilos | no its in synaptic youll find it | 10:28 |
| Kilos | you can also remove the nvidia and ati drivers from there | 10:28 |
| Kilos | just cli synaptic | 10:29 |
| mazal | I hope 13.10 and 14.04 works with ati , then I'll try and work this way again. For now will just use two different os's | 10:31 |
| Kilos | get the company to get some nvidia cards | 10:31 |
| mazal | Oi , oom jy praat van 6 maande se werk | 10:32 |
| Kilos | or even try the onboard socket | 10:32 |
| Kilos | cant remember you might need to remove the graphics card though | 10:33 |
| mazal | Gotta shut down , gonna try the onboard thing | 10:39 |
| Kilos | wb maiatoday | 10:42 |
| maiatoday | ty Kilos | 10:42 |
| === psyatw1 is now known as psyatw | ||
| mazal | No-go oom Kilos , onboard intel also don't work | 10:54 |
| Kilos | eish | 10:54 |
| Kilos | skuus man | 10:54 |
| Kilos | what does additional drivers show there | 10:55 |
| === space_ is now known as Space | ||
| mazal | If I wasn't so g@tvol of re-installing os's I would have gone back to 12.04 with this main os also | 11:10 |
| mazal | But I already did 4 the last week or so | 11:11 |
| Kilos | ai! | 11:14 |
| magespawn | afternoon all | 12:33 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 12:34 |
| Kilos | Maaz, seen banlam | 12:36 |
| Maaz | Kilos: banlam was last seen 6 months, 15 days, 18 hours, 12 minutes and 26 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-01-21 20:23:38 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2013-08-03 08:35:23 SAST | 12:36 |
| Kilos | Maaz, seen bakuman | 12:36 |
| Maaz | Kilos: bakuman was last seen 3 months, 13 days, 21 hours, 39 minutes and 28 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-04-23 16:56:48 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2013-08-03 08:36:23 SAST | 12:36 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 12:36 |
| mazal | Bye everyone , have a good evening | 12:48 |
| SilverCode | yay, finally managed to fix my tmux issues | 13:20 |
| Kilos | at least someone is winning today | 13:21 |
| inetpro | SilverCode: what tmux issues? | 13:28 |
| SilverCode | inetpro: the first was "dirty" screens. As the window scrolled up, lines wouldn't clear properly | 13:40 |
| SilverCode | inetpro: turned out to be using the wrong term | 13:40 |
| SilverCode | inetpro: the second was Shift+Fn keys not being passed through correctly | 13:41 |
| SilverCode | now if only I could solve my KMail problems | 13:41 |
| inetpro | SilverCode: you using tmux directly or via byobu? | 13:41 |
| SilverCode | inetpro: byobu? | 13:42 |
| inetpro | see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byobu_%28software%29 | 13:43 |
| SilverCode | ah, in that case, using tmux directly | 13:45 |
| SilverCode | although byobu looks interesting | 13:46 |
| inetpro | it is very useful indeed | 13:47 |
| * inetpro still prefers GNU screen for the backend | 13:49 | |
| inetpro | merely because that is what I'm used to | 13:49 |
| === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za | ||
| Kilos | yo Squirm Trixar_za | 14:10 |
| Trixar_za | Hey Kilos | 14:10 |
| Trixar_za | I just redid the znc for them | 14:10 |
| Kilos | whats a znc? | 14:10 |
| Trixar_za | a bouncer client - it idles online and keeps messages or logs while you're free to disconnect | 14:11 |
| Kilos | for who did you do this? | 14:12 |
| Kilos | slitaz? | 14:12 |
| Trixar_za | Squirm and me mostly | 14:18 |
| Kilos | ah | 14:18 |
| Kilos | you mean on here Trixar_za ? | 14:18 |
| Trixar_za | Yeah and a few other networks. Squirm uses it with 3 networks | 14:20 |
| Kilos | cool | 14:20 |
| Kilos | easier for me to just ask what i missed | 14:21 |
| Kilos | hehe | 14:21 |
| Kilos | SilverCode, kmail really sucks. i couldnt get it even to start up and the fly also said he used thunderbird because it was so bad | 14:23 |
| Kilos | but evolution works well on unity and kde | 14:27 |
| Kilos | in 12.04 that is | 14:27 |
| Kilos | inetpro, do you use kmail? | 14:29 |
| * inetpro been a happy user of Thunderbird for like ever | 14:30 | |
| Kilos | yuk | 14:31 |
| Xethron | Greetings | 14:47 |
| Squirm | better | 14:47 |
| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| Kilos | yo neelsie | 15:37 |
| * Kilos greets Cantide too | 15:38 | |
| nlsthzn | o/ uncle Kilos | 15:38 |
| Cantide | hello Kilos et al :) | 15:54 |
| nlsthzn | \o | 15:54 |
| Cantide | o/ | 15:55 |
| === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za | ||
| Kilos | Cantide, when you going? | 16:04 |
| Squirm | busy putting together a collection of my better flying | 16:20 |
| Squirm | going to use it for advertising | 16:20 |
| Squirm | my little Dual Core probably isn't ideal for video editing, but oh well | 16:20 |
| Cantide | Kilos, i don't know just yet :p | 17:37 |
| Cantide | still working on that '-' | 17:37 |
| Cantide | but you can be sure i will let you know when i get my ticket :) | 17:37 |
| Kilos | hehe | 17:37 |
| magespawn | evening all | 17:50 |
| Kilos | yo magespawn | 17:51 |
| magespawn | i saw something online connected with tor, some new project, but i cannot remember where or what it was called, trying the group mind as a last resort | 17:52 |
| magespawn | vague i know but any suggestions/beatings will be appreciated | 17:54 |
| Kilos | what is tor magespawn ? | 17:55 |
| magespawn | an annoymous browser | 17:56 |
| Kilos | hehe | 17:57 |
| Cantide | TOR is horribly slow | 17:57 |
| Cantide | but it works well for what it does | 17:57 |
| Cantide | i remember gmail thinking i had logged in from Czechoslovakia :) | 17:57 |
| Cantide | brb | 17:57 |
| magespawn | i do not notice too much of a difference | 18:00 |
| Kilos | how big is the download magespawn ? | 18:01 |
| Kilos | nm ill use data on that android goodie rather | 18:04 |
| magespawn | not too big, i think, but i forget | 18:05 |
| Kilos | the fly fights me when i try install tarballs | 18:05 |
| Kilos | i got that android adv just about going | 18:07 |
| Kilos | avd? | 18:07 |
| magespawn | it comes in a zip file that once unzipped you run it from there | 18:09 |
| Kilos | oh ok will look at it ty | 18:10 |
| Kilos | 35 meg | 18:13 |
| magespawn | everthing is self contained | 18:17 |
| Kilos | well it works, but takes a while to open with all the setting up | 18:21 |
| inetpro | good evening | 18:22 |
| Kilos | but i actually dont need to be annonimous because mostly browse for help stuff | 18:22 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you should really not be installing tarballs | 18:22 |
| Kilos | hi inetpro | 18:23 |
| Kilos | it opens without installing inetpro | 18:23 |
| Kilos | but the android thing did | 18:23 |
| inetpro | what is it? | 18:23 |
| Kilos | so whip me | 18:23 |
| Kilos | what is what? | 18:23 |
| inetpro | that you're trying to run? | 18:24 |
| magespawn | inetpro tor | 18:24 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:24 |
| inetpro | why? | 18:24 |
| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| Kilos | android avd i think its called | 18:24 |
| Kilos | wanna try gets whatsapp working here | 18:24 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 18:24 |
| Kilos | oh you meant tor | 18:25 |
| inetpro | Kilos: forget it | 18:25 |
| magespawn | i just mentioned it conection with something else i was looking for | 18:25 |
| Kilos | whew after all that data | 18:25 |
| Kilos | forget what tor or android | 18:25 |
| magespawn | why forget it? | 18:25 |
| Kilos | see magespawn i have to be careful | 18:26 |
| Kilos | when the pro dont bomb me the fly does | 18:26 |
| inetpro | why do you need whatsapp anyway? | 18:27 |
| Kilos | well ian uses it because it dont eat cell battery like mxit | 18:28 |
| inetpro | when you already have skype, facebook, gtalk and bbm | 18:28 |
| Kilos | no skype man | 18:28 |
| Kilos | and no bbm | 18:28 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:28 |
| Kilos | and facebook sucks | 18:28 |
| Kilos | whatsapp on pidgin would be cool | 18:29 |
| inetpro | whatsapp and gtalk is exactly the same thing, only difference being that whatsapp is restricted to mobile to mobile, and that really sucks | 18:30 |
| Kilos | you can run it in an android emulator | 18:30 |
| Kilos | but majot thinking needed | 18:31 |
| Kilos | major | 18:31 |
| magespawn | i see Kilos, but they are just looking out for you( i think). | 18:31 |
| Kilos | yeah magespawn i darent say eish or ai! then im asked what i broke now | 18:32 |
| Kilos | hee hee | 18:32 |
| inetpro | :-) | 18:32 |
| magespawn | inetpro what is wrong with tor? | 18:32 |
| inetpro | magespawn: why would you want to use it? | 18:33 |
| magespawn | no particular reason was just reading several blog posts about the nsa etc so privacy came up | 18:34 |
| inetpro | privacy? hmm... what privacy? | 18:34 |
| magespawn | surfing privacy | 18:35 |
| inetpro | there's no such thing these days and tor is IMHO not really worth it | 18:36 |
| magespawn | oh wait get it, as in we we have none | 18:36 |
| inetpro | unless you have something to hide | 18:36 |
| magespawn | everybody has something to hide | 18:36 |
| Kilos | inetpro, he wants to hide his financial position | 18:36 |
| inetpro | uh | 18:37 |
| Kilos | they got an increase | 18:37 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:37 |
| inetpro | magespawn: you use gmail? | 18:37 |
| tonberry352_ | google knows... | 18:37 |
| Kilos | poor wife slaves and mage spends | 18:37 |
| magespawn | what financial postion? in the toilet? | 18:37 |
| magespawn | hah if only that was true | 18:37 |
| magespawn | all the time inetpro | 18:37 |
| inetpro | ahh, you see | 18:38 |
| inetpro | magespawn: you are the weakest link | 18:38 |
| inetpro | good bye | 18:38 |
| Kilos | haha | 18:38 |
| Kilos | google knows all about you | 18:38 |
| magespawn | i am easy with that, what i do not want people to know i do not tell them | 18:39 |
| inetpro | then why use tor? | 18:40 |
| Kilos | wont it use more data bouncing around first | 18:40 |
| magespawn | i don't, just read about it and tried it,thats all | 18:41 |
| inetpro | ahh | 18:41 |
| Kilos | inetpro, ou papie het maaz reggemaak | 18:42 |
| Kilos | jy moet dankie se | 18:42 |
| magespawn | was actually looking for some other piece of randomly connected info that i read in connection with tor, but cannot remember where or what, called something like tortallion or something | 18:42 |
| magespawn | vague i know, scroll | 18:43 |
| inetpro | cocooncrash: thanks for fixing Maaz | 18:43 |
| inetpro | Kilos: mooi, dankie | 18:43 |
| inetpro | ek sien hy het hom reggemaak so net voor 2:00 vanoggend | 18:44 |
| Kilos | ai! | 18:44 |
| Kilos | so we got coffee in 4 mins again | 18:47 |
| Kilos | yay | 18:47 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 18:48 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 18:48 | |
| inetpro | Maaz: coffee please | 18:48 |
| Maaz | inetpro: Sure | 18:48 |
| Kilos | Maaz, hurry | 18:48 |
| Maaz | Making decent coffee is an art Kilos and should never be rushed | 18:48 |
| magespawn | Maaz coffee please | 18:48 |
| Maaz | magespawn: Done | 18:48 |
| Kilos | its near bed time for ballies | 18:48 |
| magespawn | Maaz large | 18:48 |
| Maaz | In a beer mug just for you magespawn | 18:48 |
| Kilos | shame the poor bot is so corrupted | 18:49 |
| magespawn | now if i could just get the wife to do it like that too | 18:49 |
| magespawn | maybe she thinks the same about me | 18:49 |
| Kilos | haha i use beer mugs | 18:49 |
| inetpro | magespawn: shame | 18:50 |
| Kilos | Maaz, larger | 18:50 |
| Maaz | inna bucket for you Kilos | 18:50 |
| magespawn | make coffee on demand | 18:50 |
| inetpro | now go make her a cup | 18:50 |
| Kilos | or tell her maaz made her some | 18:50 |
| magespawn | already on it, kettle is on | 18:50 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos, inetpro and magespawn! | 18:52 |
| inetpro | Maaz: danke | 18:52 |
| Maaz | Bitteschön | 18:52 |
| Kilos | Maaz, gracias | 18:52 |
| Maaz | Kilos: ¡de nada! | 18:52 |
| magespawn | Maaz botsnack | 18:53 |
| Maaz | Thank you thank you, munch munch chomp chomp | 18:53 |
| Kilos | night guys, have a nice night and sleep warm | 18:55 |
| magespawn | night Kiloe | 18:57 |
| magespawn | Kilos | 18:57 |
| magespawn | good night all | 19:49 |
| Vince-0 | cya | 19:49 |
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