[00:00] <jlau> no it's just doesn't have any results in the command line
[00:00] <jlau> yes
[00:00] <daftykins> jlau: that's normal, you'd need to reboot after that and then check if the connection changes
[00:00] <jlau> i found the permissions ok
[00:01] <daftykins> so if you enable execute, then try running the "./scripts/driver-select alx" within a terminal window again
[00:01] <jlau> however when i typed "make" i got cannot create .config permission denied
[00:01] <Prock81> any hints before i take a gander and try sudo aptitude purge linux-image-3.2.0*, and then pick one and break my system and punch my self in the face
[00:01] <daftykins> jlau: interesting, where did you download the file to?
[00:01] <jlau> desktop
[00:01] <jlau> i ptu the file on desktop on ubuntu
[00:01] <daftykins> jlau: and what did you run to extract it?
[00:01] <mathfreak> Prock81: No need to purge. Just install a different kernel version
[00:02] <mathfreak> Prock81: e.g. install linux-image-3.5.0-37-generic with linux-headers-3.5.0-37-generic
[00:02] <mathfreak> the install process should automatically update grub for you, so when you restart, you can select -37
[00:02] <jlau> i use winrar pre-extracted on a windows
[00:02] <jlau> then put it there
[00:02] <jlau> @_@
[00:02] <daftykins> hmm
[00:03] <daftykins> jlau: you could try 'sudo make' instead
[00:03] <jlau> i got error 125
[00:03] <jlau> error 126*
[00:03] <energizer1> When I make a cronjob @reboot, it will run as root?
[00:03] <jlau> lol
[00:03] <daftykins> does it say what that error is about? :)
[00:04] <jlau> permisison denied
[00:04] <jlau> lol
[00:04] <daftykins> O_O
[00:04] <mathfreak> energizer1: If you set up the cronjob while you were root, then yes, it'll run as root.
[00:05] <jlau> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5949372/
[00:05] <jlau> this is what i got
[00:06] <Prock81> here goes, when i come back, will i have to recompile modules manually for other stuff to work
[00:07] <daftykins> jlau: ok one sec
[00:07] <mathfreak> Prock81: No. The modules should come along with the kernel package.
[00:08] <niee> Hi folks :) any one to help me pls? after restart my pc, hostname again change to ubuntu. i change many time in "/etc/hostname" and "hostname xxxx"
[00:08] <daftykins> jlau: could you bring over the .bz2 original file from your Windows PC and paste it on the desktop?
[00:09] <bbflynn> Can anyone help me out please? I am getting "Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed" on a brand new install. I've tried a few different things but nothing has worked. I can provide any details. Any ideas are welcome.
[00:11] <jlau> daftykins: do you mean the tar file i downloaded from the website?
[00:11] <daftykins> jlau: yeah
[00:11] <daftykins> .tar.bz2
[00:12] <jlau> done.
[00:12] <energizer1> I want to run a script located in ~/bin as root at boot. I have a cronjob "@reboot ~/bin/script.sh" Does that look good? (Or does the ~ refer to the wrong thing?)
[00:12] <daftykins> jlau: place it on the desktop then right click and select 'extract here'
[00:12] <jlau> daftykins: done
[00:12] <mathfreak> bbflynn: What kernel version are you running?
[00:12] <jlau> okay
[00:12] <energizer1> (its a sudo cronjob)
[00:13] <daftykins> jlau: then change into there with your terminal and run the "./scripts/driver-select alx" again without doing anything else
[00:13] <mathfreak> energizer1: You might want to replace the tilde.
[00:13] <bbflynn> mathfreak: I don't know, the only way I can even get a terminal is to boot into the livecd. should I boot into the liveCD to find out? From what I've read there may be an issue with this particular laptop. People said they added a boot option but, no one said which one.
[00:14] <mathfreak> bbflynn: What things have you tried alreadY/
[00:14] <energizer1> mathfreak: with /home/energizer ?
[00:14] <mathfreak> energizer1: Yes
[00:15] <bbflynn> mathfreak: I tried acpi = off in grub..nothing and also pci=nomsi also nothing
[00:15] <daftykins> nosmi?
[00:15] <Prock81> how can i recompile all kernel modules just to be safe?
[00:15] <jlau> cool. it compiled and installed
[00:15] <jlau> still no internet connection tho.
[00:16] <daftykins> jlau: neat :) did you do the "sudo modprobe -r alx && sudo modprobe alx" bit too?
[00:16] <bbflynn> daftykins: the site I read said pci=nomsi ... is it supposed to be nosmi?
[00:16] <daftykins> bbflynn: i think i read nosmi once before but i can't be sure
[00:16] <daftykins> bbflynn: was it 12.04.2 you installed?
[00:16] <jlau> daftykins now i did.
[00:16] <bbflynn> daftykins: yes.
[00:17] <daftykins> jlau: any change from the network manager icon to the left of the speaker + clock top right?
[00:17] <jlau> i just did sudo reboot
[00:17] <daftykins> ok
[00:17] <daftykins> bbflynn: ok just checking you installed with the latest release, do you know what graphics hardware is in this system?
[00:17] <mathfreak> Prock81: You'll have to download the kernel source code for that. When you install the kernel, only the kernel object files are installed as well (because for practically everyone, no one wants to work with the source)
[00:18] <bbflynn> daftykins: I got 12.04 straight off the ubuntu website. I used the 64bit version b/c the laptop has an AMD Turion. I am looking up what graphics card right now.
[00:18] <Prock81> how do i get my souece
[00:18] <Gert_Prabodh> Hello everyone, Gert_Prabodhhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[00:19] <daftykins> Gert_Prabodh: my you are a persistent devil. you may be ready, but you just sit there and don't do anything :(
[00:19] <mathfreak> Prock81: www.kernel.org BUT WAIT! If you are downloading the kernel source to get to solving a problem, i think something's wrong here.
[00:19] <bbflynn> daftykins: ATI IGP Xpress 1150
[00:19] <jlau> daftykins: no luck here. still down after that. wonder what is wrong. my mobo can connect with the internet when it's windows 7.
[00:20] <daftykins> jlau: can you pastebin what the terminal outputs from "sudo ifconfig -a" ?
[00:20] <daftykins> bbflynn: hrmm so the LiveCD boots in graphically fine?
[00:21] <bbflynn> daftykins: yes. install went fine. but when I boot up I get that recursive failure error...
[00:22] <bbflynn> daftykins: I know that the laptop has a bcom card in it. Not sure if that's related at all, but trying to provide anything useful
[00:22] <daftykins> bbflynn: did you have a network connection at the time to allow it to install updates during install?
[00:22] <bbflynn> daftykins: yes. Hard-wired
[00:22] <daftykins> bbflynn: i'd skip that, nuke the disk and start again and keep it connectionless
[00:22] <daftykins> an update might be doing something
[00:23] <bbflynn> daftykins: ok, am going to do that now. Do you think it might be worthwhile to try the 32bit version? or should I stick with 64 if I've got 64bit architecture?
[00:24] <daftykins> i'd only be running 64 if it had 4GB RAM or more i think
[00:24] <daftykins> depends what you want to use it for
[00:24] <daftykins> bbflynn: another thought is just holding shift at boot to try another kernel if it still has the one from disc on there - if you can get that far
[00:25] <jlau> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5949412/
[00:25] <bbflynn> daftykins: Obviously, I'd like it to run as fast as possible, just thought for some reason 32 might be less prone to issues. Hmmm...let me try that, when do I hold shift, before grub or right after?
[00:25] <daftykins> bbflynn: just before it's about to read from the disk after POST, should give you the menu then
[00:26] <daftykins> jlau: hmm, "sudo dhclient eth0"
[00:26] <nurow> Question.. I'm trying to copy files to my second hard drive. But I can't because the permissions have the drive owner as root. How do I change that?
[00:26] <mathfreak> Prock81: Let me see if I understand what you're trying to do. You're just trying to install the latest virtualbox, right?
[00:27] <Prock81> ya i manage to get it working as of now
[00:27] <daftykins> nurow: sudo chown -R user: /mount/point
[00:27] <Prock81> how can i stop the kernel from updating to one that dont have sources or headers
[00:28] <bbflynn> daftykins: that doesn't seem to  do anything, not  sure i it's because of the error...I'll try to do an install without the updates.
[00:28] <jlau> daftykins: when i did you sudo dhclient eth0  it is just pausing
[00:28] <nurow> thanks daftykins
[00:28] <daftykins> jlau: hmm, yeah i can't tell what that eth0 interface really is, just thought it was worth a try really
[00:29] <daftykins> nurow: no problemo
[00:30] <mathfreak> Prock81: In synaptic, you can use Package->Lock Version on the packages you would like to not update.
[00:31] <bleomycin> anyone know of a linux equivalent of networx? something to graph network traffic from another device via snmp in real time on the desktop?
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> !info ntop
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> not sure what all ntop can do. it had more features then i understood. ;P
[00:32] <daftykins> jlau: i think i'm out of ideas for now i'm afraid :( perhaps that compatibility wireless wasn't quite right for it
[00:32] <bkboggy> I am having a problem with Ubuntu Server installation.  I was at the portion where you choose the disk to install it on and then I realized that I didn't attach the hard drive for this installation.  So, I aborted the installation from the menu (it told me about the possibility of unstable system) and then I installed the needed HDD.  Now, when I try to install it, every time there is a field
[00:32] <bkboggy> to fill in response, it fills it with 6 nonstop. So it'll go 666666666666666666666 and so on on every field.  So, I can't enter anything and can't proceed.  Any suggestions?
[00:32] <bleomycin> ubottu: yeah ntop isnt what i'm after
[00:33] <bleomycin> Dr_Willis: yeah ntop isn't quite it
[00:33] <bbflynn> daftkins: does it matter if I install third-party software? should i not check that box?
[00:34] <bbflynn> daftykins ^
[00:34] <daftykins> bbflynn: i wouldn't have thought that'd be affecting anything as major as boot
[00:34] <bbflynn> ok, cool.
[00:34] <daftykins> bbflynn: but definitely consider it a variable
[00:34] <bbflynn> daftykins: Ok, I'll leave it off for now. Thanks for your help so far.
[00:34] <daftykins> np :)
[00:35] <bkboggy> Can someone please help me out with my problem I mentioned above.
[00:35] <bkboggy> I tried Google, but I can't find anything
[00:36] <sweeN> does anyone know when ubuntu TV will be out, or available for purchase?
[00:36] <qin> bleomycin: out of head: ssh, ifconfig and sed ;)
[00:36] <Dommon> I'm getting an error while using dkms to build files, and the error log is saying it cannot find the kernel build directory, and is asking me to use the argument KBUILD=<path> agrument. Does that mean I should just add KBUILD=<the path to the KBUILD file> at the end of my dkms line in terminal?
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> bkboggy, If you plugged the HD in while using the live media you might need to reboot it, not sure really.
[00:36] <bkboggy> I restarted several times.
[00:36] <bkboggy> HDD installation was cold.
[00:36] <bkboggy> I don't have a hot swap setup.
[00:36] <bleomycin> qin: yeah but thats not nearly as nice as this little widget sitting on my desktop that i can glance at: http://www.softperfect.com/products/networx/
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> bkboggy, I would check the md5sum on the disc or iso.
[00:37] <daftykins> bkboggy: as though someone's leaning on the keyboard?
[00:37] <bkboggy> yes
[00:37] <bkboggy> and when i press 6, it'll fill it twice the speed
[00:37] <bkboggy> backspace interrupts it for a fraction of a second
[00:37] <bkboggy> but i cant' delete fast enough
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> bkboggy, pull the key and look for crud maybe
[00:38] <bkboggy> Tried, that's not the issue.  I have a mechanical keyboard G710+
[00:38] <qin> bleomycin: Is is for m$ machines? what about peers, do you need to intall anything?
[00:38] <mathfreak> Dommon: You might want to try #kernel
[00:38] <bkboggy> it worked just fine on the first installation, but after I aborted it, it started doing that
[00:39] <Dommon> mathfreak: Will do, thank you.
[00:39] <qin> bleomycin: easiest widget would be conky
[00:39] <daftykins> bkboggy: does it still do it with no input devices hooked up at all? absolute minimum of things attached to the system?
[00:39] <bkboggy> haven't tried that
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> bkboggy, Strange, all you can really do is knock out variables, starting with the simplest, like a sum check....etc
[00:40] <bkboggy> wilee-nilee: sum check?
[00:40] <bleomycin> qin: the link is the windows equivalent of what i'm looking for. Really all i want is something that looks like that which polls and graphs bandwidth from a device (my router) via snmp in real time
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | bkboggy
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> bkboggy, There is the the mini disc now called the alternative a net install only 30MB if yours misses the sum check.
[00:42] <bkboggy> hmm
[00:42] <bkboggy> i'm just not sure what that does
[00:42] <bkboggy> the sum check
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> bkboggy, It checks if the disc is the same as it should be basically.
[00:42] <bkboggy> i didn't install ubuntu yet, the error occurs during the installation and it was fine the first time around... i just aborted it and everything went down the hill 10 minutes later
[00:42] <bkboggy> and the iso is burnt onto a dvd, so i don't see how it would change
[00:43] <bkboggy> I also checked the ISO through the menu to make sure there are no errors
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> bkboggy, The iso might be bad, don't over think this.
[00:43] <bkboggy> is this sum check the same as checking if the installation disk is good through the menu during the installation?
[00:44] <bkboggy> because i checked that and my memory
[00:44] <harris> how can i install the new libre
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> bkboggy, basically you have to use an empirical method in analysis. no a menu check not what that bis is not a sum test.
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> bkboggy, Do you mean the check disc at the forst gui on booting the disc?
[00:45] <bkboggy> yes
[00:45] <bkboggy> where it has the memory check, disk check, etc
[00:45] <Dr_Willis> harris:  if you mean libreoffice. id say find a ppa for it.
[00:46] <harris> Dr_Willis, IT ISNT OFFICAL whoops sorry for caps
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> bkboggy, Yeah that is abasically a test, however I have seen discs pass that and a md5sum and still not work, could be to fast of a burn, once again I say knock out the varibles using an empirical method, don;t guess be sure.
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> harris:  if the version in the offical repos is not new enough for you.. use a ppa.  theres not a newer OFFICIAL version then
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> !backports
[00:46] <bkboggy> wilee-nilee: alright, i'll do the md5sum.exe
[00:46] <bkboggy> be right back
[00:47] <harris> its libreoffice 4.1
[00:47] <Dr_Willis> !latest
[00:47] <harris> its on their homepage
[00:47] <wilee-nilee> bkboggy, Its a pain at times that is for sure, that sort of error is a witch hunt. ;)
[00:47] <harris> http://www.libreoffice.org/default/
[00:47] <bkboggy> yeah, it's just odd that it was fine the first time around
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> harris:  so - look for a ppa that packages the latest release for ubuntu would be the normal way to get it. or wait and see if it eventually gets into the backports repos.
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> bkboggy, The HD has a partition table?
[00:48] <bkboggy> it doesn't even get to that point of choosing the disk, i'm stuck at the network portion, since it fills all the fields with 6's.  But yes, the new HDD was partitioned into 2
[00:49] <bkboggy> i formated both partitions, so they're clean, but it's still split into 2 for now, until the installation occurs
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> bkboggy, Cool, just sort of guessing, I will leave you to your work. ;/
[00:49] <bkboggy> i'm guessing it'll give me an option of merging them?
[00:49] <bkboggy> I'm new to Linux
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> bkboggy, No merging, but a install option
[00:49] <harris> gtg
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> install"s plural
[00:50] <bkboggy> How would I merge paritions on HDD?  I have 2TB which I have Windows 8 on, and then the 250GB on for Ubuntu Server... but it's split into 2 partitions, 200 and 50
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> bkboggy, In linux you can only remove and expand partitions to that unallocated space
[00:51] <bkboggy> oh, so I can remove the 50GB partition?
[00:51] <bkboggy> since it's 200GB and 50GB now
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> bkboggy, And a ntfs for windows will not sponsor linux it goes in a ext type, if I read your question correctly
[00:52] <bkboggy> oh, so I don't even have to worry about it, I can just use the entire disk for the installation?
[00:52] <bkboggy> it'll override it for Linux?
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> bkboggy, Yeah if nothing is in the 50gig you can delete it with say gparted on a live cd, and expand the other into it
[00:53] <bkboggy> oh cool
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> bkboggy, Yeah the only time I pre-partition is on windows installs if I want no boot partition or for them to not intermingle the boot.
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> sat with 2 or more MS install they will mix the boot together a real pain.
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> say*
[00:54] <bkboggy> true, that's how I did back in the day, that's why I had my disk like that... but with hard drives being so dirt cheap these days I just buy more
[00:55] <bkboggy> Yeah, Windows is an invasive system, it'll mess things up even if you try to install it on a different partition of the same disk and you have Linux on it
[00:55] <bkboggy> that's why Linux goes after
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> bkboggy, It's a beast but can be controlled. ;)
[00:55] <bkboggy> I am getting fed up with it, hence why I'm going with Ubuntu, so I can have less stress with a server
[00:56] <jdale> hi wilee-nilee  that friend just called and he cant even boot his desktop lol
[00:56] <jdale> what should I do?
[00:56] <jdale> p
[00:56] <jdale> :P
[00:56] <FloodBot1> jdale: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> bkboggy, For a refrence there is a #ubuntu-server channel as well if needed.
[00:56] <bkboggy> The only reason I'm staying with Windows is due to the fact that it has an enourmouse base of applications which linux lacks... but it's nice to use both
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> jdale, He should be on the irc if he wants help.
[00:56] <bkboggy> oh, cool, wilee-nilee, I was wondering about that, I'll be right back
[00:56] <ghostman> I am trying to run AOE II HD steam via Wine, I installed Directx and edited the Launcher and AOK file but am still getting the black map. Anyone know how to fix it?
[00:56] <jdale> well ok
[00:57] <harris> Dr_Willis, i found how to do it would you like the link
[00:57] <harris> so you can refer others
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> jdale, I can appreciate your helping them but 3rd party stuff I normally ignore, and one does not learn without repetition.
[00:58] <jdale> yeah thats ok
[00:58] <Daekdroom> ghostman, add "-no-startup" to the launch options under the game properties in your Steam library.
[00:58] <jdale> he's pretty frustrated wilee-nilee
[00:58] <ghostman> Daekdroom, should I add that at the beginning of the line?
[00:58] <bbflynn> daftykins: The new install without updates worked! Is there something I should avoid doing once I get network up and running? Like avoid kernel upgrades or something?
[00:59] <Daekdroom> ghostman, yeah, without quotes.
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> harris:  i dont even rember the problem. ;)
[00:59] <ghostman> ok thx i will try that and see what happens
[00:59] <harris> "how can i install the new libre"
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> jdale, I noticed they were a bit hard headed is all, they would not accept an easier method by just getting a usb wifi that plugs and plays, we only have so much patience.
[01:00] <jdale> yeah
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[01:02] <ghostman> Daekdroom it says failed to execute child process -nostartup no such file or directory
[01:02] <ghostman> i put that in the command line at the beginning
[01:03] <ghostman> nvm
[01:07] <goddard> i looked at an imac with a 1920x1080 monitor
[01:07] <goddard> i looked at an imac with a 1920x1080 monitor and the x1600 monitor and i couldn't tell the difference
[01:08] <ghostman> thx Daekdroom
[01:08] <goddard> maybe high resolution monitors arent that big a deal yet
[01:08] <harris> Dr_Willis, do you want it
[01:09] <harris> the link to upgrading libreoffice to 4.1
[01:20] <Guest34471> Hi folks, how do I ls only directory names without a slash at the end
[01:21] <jrib> Guest34471: why do you want to do that?
[01:22] <Guest34471> jrib: because I need it for a bash script
[01:22] <jrib> Guest34471: ok, well ask what you actually want to do in the end because in general you don't want to parse ls
[01:24] <Guest34471> jrib: well I want to get the filepath of the first file in a set of folers
[01:25] <jrib> Guest34471: first in what order?
[01:28] <Guest34471> jrib: any file would be ok too, heres a aexample: ./d1/f nextline ./d2/f .... I wanted to get the folder name in a while do loop and concat the foldername without a slash with the output of ls -1 "\"$folder\"*"|head -n 1
[01:30] <jrib> Guest34471: what is your end goal?
[01:32] <Guest34471> i want to pass the file into a application to create file with metadata
[01:37] <Guest34471> well what i need to to my script is just a command that puts out one foldername per line without any slashes or any other noise
[01:38] <holstein> Guest34471: slashes are the path
[01:40] <Guest34471> holstein: yes I know but they dont play nice together if you want to get something like this processed: ls -1 "a folder name\"*|head -n 1
[01:41] <holstein> Guest34471: you can always script whatever you want.. i would try a programming channel
[01:41] <holstein> prrint the name, sanitize "/" or whatever
[01:42] <qin> Guest34471: #bash #sed #awk, tr is for trim if i remember good
[01:44] <MACscr> lol, im trying to upgrade puppet. I did add a new repo for it. Why in the world is it asking to remove them to solve the dependency issue with the upgrade? http://pastie.org/pastes/8206825/text?key=h91nxf5yexi73xlkhzodxw
[01:44] <qin> MACscr: puppet?
[01:44] <holstein> MACscr: ppa's are not officially supported here.. you'l need to ask the ppa maintatianer for support
[01:45] <MACscr> qin: what about it? its an app
[01:45] <jpds> MACscr: Don't use an unsupported repo.
[01:45] <ubuntu39290> hey guys, is there any stability differences between ubuntu and xubuntu or just a lighter weight DE with xubuntu?
[01:45] <holstein> ubuntu39290: xubuntu *is* ubuntu
[01:46] <jpds> MACscr: Or aptitude for that matter; apt-get is how things are done.
[01:46] <MACscr> holstein: but this is more a general question i would think about why something would ask to remove everything its actually trying to upgrade
[01:46] <ubuntu39290> holstein, thought so, it just threw me off when it said they were not "official" releases but community driven
[01:46] <jpds> MACscr: Because you're using aptitude.
[01:46] <MACscr> well if i just use apt-get, it just says they were held back
[01:46] <MACscr> but no other reason
[01:46] <ubuntu39290> apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:47] <holstein> MACscr: generally, that PPA is not supported here.. *anything* about it could be causing the breakage/issues you are seeing..
[01:47] <MACscr> the repo is directly from puppetlabs. I guess i might have to ask them
[01:48] <MACscr> its unfortunate the ubuntu repo is so far behind on its version
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> MACscr, Might be a reason for that.
[01:49] <holstein> MACscr: the ubuntu version is supported... the newer one might break something that the PPA is not addressing
[01:49] <ubuntu39290> MACscr, im assuming there is a feature needed in a newer version than ubuntu offers?
[01:49] <wilee-nilee> behind is contextually relevant
[01:50] <MACscr> ubuntu39290: I just installed foreman and it seems to require the newer version even though it didnt seem to complain about that when it installed everything. The current version of puppet doesnt have a "module" command available for installing puppet modules
[01:51] <Nisstyre-laptop> Sometimes mplayer doesn't stop playing after a video is finished. It just does nothing and displays a black screen. I've done a bit of searching but could not turn up much on google. Any ideas?
[01:52] <ubuntu39290> MACscr, not sure if apt-get clean, autoclean would help your situation out possibly someone more knowledgeable would know if that would help or not
[01:52] <Guest34471> ok I found a bash command to trim slash away and there commes the next problem, If I execute the script I get a bunch of cannot access "foldername"/* no such file or directory but if I enter the exact same comnmand by hand everything works fine
[01:52] <Nisstyre-laptop> It wouldn't really be an issue, but I have a program that monitors a directory for new files and plays them, but it will just block if the mplayer process never dies.
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> Nisstyre-laptop, you can run killall mplayer
[01:52] <ubuntu39290> MACscr, and apt-get -f install
[01:53] <Nisstyre-laptop> wilee-nilee: I have no way to tell if the video is finished (from my program)
[01:53] <qin> Guest34471: "/ is part of path..." quote
[01:53] <Nisstyre-laptop> wilee-nilee: I can just hit enter if I want to do it manually
[01:53] <ubuntu39290> is there anyone that would know if those commands may help macscr
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> Nisstyre-laptop, This an access to a server or something?
[01:53] <Nisstyre-laptop> wilee-nilee: it's a desktop, but I'm not sitting in front of it
[01:54] <MACscr> sry guys, i have to jet. Wife has dinner waiting. Thanks for the help!
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> Nisstyre-laptop, Two computers or devices are involved, can you sense my gols here?
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> goals*
[01:54] <Nisstyre-laptop> wilee-nilee: no, it is just one computer. I'm using this program I wrote to play videos: https://github.com/nisstyre56/LazyPlay
[01:54] <Nisstyre-laptop> it watches a directory for new files and plays them...
[01:54] <Nisstyre-laptop> the issue is that mplayer doesn't die after finishing a video, so I have to manually kill it each time
[01:56] <wilee-nilee> Nisstyre-laptop, Honestly beyond ubuntu support using your own code, and important info up front, does not mean you will get no help, but details are pertinent. ;)
[01:56] <Nisstyre-laptop> wilee-nilee: well it happens with normal mplayer usage, although obviously that usually means I'm sitting at the computer
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> Nisstyre-laptop, I would use another player mplayer is a bit dated, but it does have a list to play from.
[01:57] <Nisstyre-laptop> wilee-nilee: perhaps yeah
[01:57] <Nisstyre-laptop> maybe I could make vlc die when it finishes playing something
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> or will make a list I use vlc in general but single plays
[01:58] <Nisstyre-laptop> wilee-nilee: I'll just look at the cli verson of vlc I guess
[01:58] <wilee-nilee> Nisstyre-laptop, Yeah let us know how it goes. ;)
[01:58] <pepper_chico> there's some weird campaign now on twitter, #PleaseFixWindowsPhone… guys, I'm creating another, #PleaseDumpWindowsPhone
[01:58] <pepper_chico> help #UbuntuEdge! =)
[01:58] <wilee-nilee> !spam | pepper_chico
[01:59] <cynicist> Nisstyre-laptop:  that's bizzare, I use mplayer myself and it exits after playing video just fine
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> pepper_chico, That is considered spam here.
[01:59] <cynicist> Nisstyre-laptop:  that may be a bug in the particular version you are using
[02:00] <Nisstyre-laptop> cynicist: yeah it used to work fine
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> pepper_chico, he edge is #ubuntu-touch
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> the*
[02:01] <pepper_chico> wilee-nilee, but the edge is the one which needs more help now
[02:02] <cynicist> Nisstyre-laptop:  I'm using a vaapi enabled build from this repo and it works great, you may want to try it yourself or build mplayer directly from svn, https://launchpad.net/~sander-vangrieken/+archive/vaapi
[02:02] <halfthing> hello. i have installed ubuntustudio and found that one or two applications have menus in german even though i specified english: clementine and qjackctl for example. how do i change the language of those apps to english?
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> pepper_chico, Sure but your goals are not within the channel rules is all. ;)
[02:02] <pepper_chico> wilee-nilee, ah ok, got it
[02:02] <qin> pepper_chico: He is no the edge in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:03] <qin> *on
[02:03] <nathanbzz> can anyone help
[02:03] <nathanbzz> I have no name!@xx:~$ id
[02:03] <nathanbzz> uid=1000 gid=1000(ubuntu) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),110(netdev),111(admin),1000(ubuntu)
[02:03] <nathanbzz> I have no name!@xx:~$ ssh localhost
[02:03] <nathanbzz> You don't exist, go away!
[02:03] <FloodBot1> nathanbzz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:03] <Nisstyre-laptop> cynicist: Yeah I think I will try that
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> !details | nathanbz
[02:03] <Nisstyre-laptop> cynicist: I wonder if it could have anything to do with the codec or something, since it only happens with some files
[02:03] <cynicist> Nisstyre-laptop:  what filetype/codec?
[02:04] <Nisstyre-laptop> cynicist: apparently these are xvid files
[02:04] <Nisstyre-laptop> I just reproduced it
[02:04] <qin> nathanbzz: whoami; w; and some history...
[02:04] <nathanbzz> whoami: cannot find name for user ID 1000
[02:04] <nathanbzz>  02:04:38 up  8:22,  1 user,  load average: 0.46, 0.44, 0.50
[02:04] <nathanbzz> USER     TTY      FROM              LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
[02:04] <jarray52> Is it possible to use update-alternatives and install both Oracle JDK and Openjdk at the same time?
[02:05] <qin> nathanbzz: How did you do it?
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> nathanbzz, The bit asked you to use a pastebin
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> bot*
[02:05] <nathanbzz> qin it happened when i was copying to a network drive
[02:05] <nathanbzz> kernel spazzed out
[02:06] <nathanbzz> this happened http://pastebin.com/v7NsCjtc
[02:06] <cynicist> Nisstyre-laptop:  it's been a while since I've played xvid files but I haven't had any trouble with them in the past, I would definitely update mplayer and see if that fixes the issue
[02:06] <qin> nathanbzz: sudo cat /etc/shadow
[02:07] <nathanbzz> im not there
[02:07] <Nisstyre-laptop> cynicist: yep I am going to do that
[02:07] <nathanbzz> wait
[02:07] <nathanbzz> where i am
[02:08] <nathanbzz> I can ssh in remotely
[02:08] <nathanbzz> it's the weirdest error I've had :(
[02:08] <qin> nathanbzz: yeah, pretty cool
[02:10] <nathanbzz> some people said it might having something to do with ldap
[02:10] <qin> nathanbzz: copy all date; create new user with sudo; redo (with back ups) shadow file;
[02:10] <nathanbzz> but i don't use that
[02:10] <FroMaster> what user does the init process run as on bootup? I have a script that I call at bootup that is having file permission issues
[02:11] <jpds> FroMaster: root? init isn't started by a user but by the kernel.
[02:11] <nathanbzz> FroMaster in rc2 sould be root
[02:12] <nathanbzz> FroMaster make sure you use absolute paths
[02:12] <nathanbzz> cause no path environment will exist
[02:13] <qin> nathanbzz: no clue; do you have more logs?
[02:13] <dougl> I need a kenel module for my RTL8188CUS for 13.04 google revealed something it install but all the sources of that method fail to compile - any suggestions?
[02:13] <dougl> *it said to install
[02:14] <nathanbzz> Aug  5 02:10:07 lnw1 sendmail[8088]: r752A7Nb008088: SYSERR(UID0): Who are you?:   Permission denied
[02:14] <nathanbzz> thats a big problem
[02:14] <nathanbzz> thats root
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> dougl, here is one thread probably many others there. http://askubuntu.com/questions/123937/rtl8188cus-wireless-usb-dongle-doesnt-work-unless-i-disable-wireless-security
[02:16] <irssi-mike> I have a problem that I didn't have before--it started when i knocked the power cord out and the system went down, in short the right speaker has no sound and i'm getting "starting restore sound card mixer state Failed"
[02:16] <fishcooker> how to know list of service that running on the ubuntu and easily remove or disable it?
[02:16] <dougl> wilee-nilee, right that is the fix that does not compile when I run the install.sh
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> fishcooker, Htop maybe sudo apt-get install htop and run from cli
[02:17] <qin> nathanbzz: uhw
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> dougl, Not an area I really know, just passing info, and wondering if you are using a correct method, the links should help there.
[02:18] <qin> nathanbzz: is /etc/passwd more-less there?
[02:20] <fishcooker> wilee-nilee: how to know list of service that running on then disable it... then when the box restarted it will be stop?
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> dougl,I have never heard of a kernel module here, just ndis wrappers and some blacklisting maybe
[02:21] <nathanbzz> qin yes
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> fishcooker:  the service  command can list all services i belive
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> fishcooker, I think you will have to be specific on what you don;t want running for the channel to help, just a guess though.
[02:21] <nathanbzz> I can remote ssh and sudo no problems
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> fishcooker:  to disable a service - i would refer to the 'upstart cookbook' theres several ways you can disable them
[02:21] <nathanbzz> ubuntu:x:1000:1000:Ubuntu:/home/ubuntu:/bin/bash /etc/passwd
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> !upstart
[02:31] <max64> if i have an IP address .. can i detect his geographical location percisely?  and how?  thanks
[02:31] <IdleOne> max64: that is not something we help with in this channel.
[02:32] <Euripides_Suibhn> Hello everyone, Euripides_Suibhnehere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[02:33] <max64> Idle0ne:do you recommend me some rooms to answer me?
[02:33] <IdleOne> max64: none that I know of.
[02:34] <ken-the-whiz> hey im having linux wired connection problems
[02:34] <naryfa> hi
[02:35] <naryfa> ppl
[02:35] <ken-the-whiz> eth0 is recognized just not establishing connections
[02:35] <ken-the-whiz> i restarted comp and stopped working
[02:36] <ken-the-whiz> someone help please
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> ken-the-whiz, Just a guess not an area for me, but have you checked the DNS stuff.
[02:37] <ken-the-whiz> no
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> !DNS
[02:37] <napsc> ken-the-whiz: what does nm-tool show?
[02:40] <jarray52> sudo update-alternative java shows java-6-openjdk-amd64 installed twice. Is there a reason for that?
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> jarray52, Not sure java is a installed thang by you, think back and here is the wiki. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[02:44] <Braden`> Hello
[02:45] <ag763> anyone know why a wireless nic wouldn't start on boot?  its config is in the interface file and 'ifconfig wlan0 up' works fine
[02:45] <Braden`> grep -G "/(submissions_data.)*(101720)/" file.sql   <-- I am trying to grep a file for that regex pattern, but I think I am doing something wrong; however, I am not sure what.  Could someone help me with that please?
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> ag763, Do you have more than two desktops and is this on the secondary one?
[02:46] <fishcooker> i want to do fresh install on my box.. which version of ubuntu that fit my hardware spesification.. because my box is not an ordinary box this is the list
[02:46] <ag763> wilee-nilee, its in another box setting up as an AP
[02:46] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5949720/
[02:46] <jrib> Braden`: feed grep some sample data and make sure it matches what you expect.  Example: grep 'f.o' <<< "foo"
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> ag763, Check the network manager is ticked for auto.
[02:46] <rypervenche> Braden`: I would recommend using extended regex and using .* instead of *. Also try backslashing the slashes.
[02:46] <fishcooker> this is my formation of the disk
[02:46] <fishcooker> (09:45:04) fishcooker: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5949722/
[02:47] <ag763> wilee-nilee, terminal only
[02:47] <fishcooker> i just want to use as server backup but with light windowmanager
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> ag763, I suspected that not sure really.
[02:48] <jrib> Braden`: here is a possibly enlightening example for you: grep "/(submissions_data.)*(101720)/" <<< "/(submissions_dataX)))))))))(101720)/"
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> fishcooker, THat says nothing about the hardware?
[02:49] <fishcooker> how to?
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> fishcooker, Sorry IO opened the wrong paste hold on.
[02:50] <deserteagle> good day! anyone know about s2disk? mine now says "starting snapshot" but doesn't actually save the image or shutdown the pc
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> fishcooker, You can run ubuntu there, if you want the lightest as far as canonical supported lubuntu or lxde its base will be the fastest, but needs more config setups
[02:51] <fishcooker>  yes i want to supported for long2 time
[02:51] <user42> How can I use two headphones in ubuntu studio? Im using jack and ardour and have two separate headphones hooked to the PC a set of turtle beach usb headphones and some standard 3.5 mm headphones. I want to monitor my friend in real time as he records ...the usb headphones show up under jack output selection as hw:2 Turtle Beach PX21 Headset and the normal headphones shows up as hw:0 HDA Nvidia .... I want the vocalist to hear the effects I'm applying in rea
[02:51] <user42> l time and want myself to be able to hear as well
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> fishcooker, 12.04 ubuntu is 5 years
[02:53] <Nisstyre> cynicist: seems to work with the version of mplayer you linked
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> user42, You might try #opensourcemusicians
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> good group
[02:54] <fishcooker> x64 errr amd64 will be okay wilee-nilee?
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> fishcooker, I would not with only 2 gigs ram, but it depends on what you will use I suppose.
[02:55] <fishcooker> ok switch to i386, thankyou.. downloading on progress
[02:55] <Braden`> Thank you
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> fishcooker, Cool, you could try both and decide.
[02:56] <cynicist> Nisstyre: glad to hear it :)
[02:57] <dougl> I just assumed it was a kernel module it was making as the instructions mentions
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> dougl, We last conversed 45min ago are you answering me?
[03:01] <tripelb> 12.04 - i did mount which listed many inscrutable things, none of whnpol0pllypliypolloplpkoyloylklpmllllkoollj9o_o
[03:01] <tripelb> oololuopjpolk?
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> huh?
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> !details | tripelb
[03:02] <deserteagle> anyone know about s2disk? mine now says "starting snapshot" but doesn't actually save the image or shutdown the pc
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> perhaps it has a verbose logging/message output option deserteagle
[03:04] <deserteagle> hey again
[03:04] <wilee-nilee> deserteagle, You have a swap equal to the ram at least?
[03:04] <deserteagle> yeah, let me bring it up
[03:04] <deserteagle> more than, actually
[03:04] <deserteagle> and it used to work just fine up until a few nights ago
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> deserteagle, might help not sure really. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/Hibernate
[03:05] <tripelb> hmjkllpl?0pll09l0lkllllklllllpppu0oyjllll
[03:06] <wilee-nilee> tripelb, Heh, you are not making any sense.
[03:08] <tones> what is the most usable version of ubnuntu on an asus eee 900a netbook?
[03:08] <tripelb> pplpuupilkmlml?llkjllpplpliluoppp9???llplmpill9o0999o/u0?ul0lklup0uyop
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> tones, Name the hardware if you can.
[03:09] <bazhang> tripelb, please stop that
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> tones:  12.04 or 13.04 either one should work.
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> tones:  you may want to use Lubuntu, since its the lightest desktop.
[03:10] <nathanbzz> anyone have any ideas why this is happening http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2165425 :9
[03:10] <tripelb> lkllllklkllpllkllllplk008plml
[03:10] <tones> atom n270, single core, 1.6ghz, bus 533 mhz, 2gig ram ddr2
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> nathanbzz:  you might want to give a summary of the issue. Most people wont go to a URL to read  about a problem they may have no clue how to fix.
[03:11] <tones> ubunru released a netbook edition a few years ago
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> tones:  ubuntu netbook edition - no longer exists.. it became Unity.,
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> tones, I have a acer netbook about the same ubuntu runs fine I never use it though if I did regularly I would probably use lubuntu
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> tones:  so go with the latest Lubuntu, or Ubuntu,  and see how well they work
[03:13] <tones> ok, will try live cds
[03:13] <nathanbzz> Dr_Willis the summary is in the URL, either they goto that or i make a pastebin :/
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> nathanbzz:  you could at least mention what the problem is about.. video? audio? pc exploding?
[03:14] <tones> wilee-nilee, why don't you use your netbook?
[03:14] <tones> they are more functional than tablets
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> I got a netbook i rarely use any more either.  My tablet does all  the netbook was doing  :)
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> I find my tablet more functional. (well functional for longer, and does what i need done)
[03:15] <Shadow}}> Whats the bot command for last seen (Name)?
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> !seen
[03:15] <nathanbzz> I have no name!@xx:~$ id
[03:15] <nathanbzz> uid=1000 gid=1000(ubuntu) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29( audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),110(netdev),1 11(admin),1000(ubuntu)
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> it dosent have one Shadow}}
[03:15] <Shadow}}> That answers that.
[03:15] <nathanbzz> thats the issue i guess
[03:16] <Shadow}}> !whois
[03:16] <woo> +
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> Shadow}}, In hexchat I use ctrl-f then the nick, not exactly last but will find all posts.
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> theres a memoserv also Shadow}} . but no idea if it has a seen feature
[03:17] <Shadow}}> Ah, Hello wilee-nilee . Quite enjoying synapse ;P
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> Shadow}}, Cool its the slackers tool.
[03:17] <Shadow}}> Much quicker in all ways than the drop bar.
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> Shadow}}, I guess hud is helpful as well I have not used it though.
[03:18] <Braden`> Is there a way in grep to only output the first (x) amount of bytes for each line?
[03:18] <nathanbzz> no one has any idea how this has happened :(
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> the hud is easy to overlook and forget about
[03:18] <Shadow}}> Hm, Well. I am trying to find that Derek person that was requesting someone with business knowledge(s). My friend has accepted taking a look at the idea...So yeah.
[03:19] <aeon-ltd> Braden`: if you can target lines individually anyway, you could createe a bash script that would loop the line number then grep the amount of bytes you want
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> nathanbzz:  look in /etc/password perhaps and see if the users name is defined there.
[03:20] <Braden`> Well
[03:20] <Braden`> The lines are thousands of characters long
[03:20] <nathanbzz> - /etc/passwd is fine
[03:20] <jrib> Braden`: you can use cut
[03:20] <Braden`> I only want the first 10 characters
[03:20] <Braden`> of each line that is outputted by grep
[03:21] <Braden`> Could you spoon feed me the solution please?
[03:21] <Braden`> I am not altogether familiar with cut
[03:21] <jrib> Braden`: I would have to go read the man page
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> nathanbzz:  i just grepped my /etc/ for my user name. and only places i find it mentioned is in  passwd and group
[03:21] <nathanbzz> it's the username => uid that isn't working
[03:21] <nathanbzz> look at id
[03:22] <nathanbzz> and compare it to mine
[03:22] <nathanbzz> youll see uid=1000(ubuntu)
[03:22] <nathanbzz> should be there
[03:22] <FloodBot1> nathanbzz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:22] <jrib> Braden`: echo 'foobar\ncatdog' | cut -b -3
[03:22] <Shadow}}> Curious; Does Thunderbird notify me of new messages while the app is closed? If not, Should I bother activating desktop notifications on gmail or would it be wiser simply to leave TB open...
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> Shadow}}, Thunderbird only notifies when open, you can put it is startup applications though.
[03:24] <Shadow}}> I assume thats no of a security risk than having an account with it and the app open?
[03:24] <Shadow}}> *no more of
[03:24] <tones> is there a way to increase the font size of email messages in thunderbird?
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> Shadow}}, Should not be it is what you click on that matters.
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> tones, In prefernces
[03:24] <Shadow}}> True... Thanks again.
[03:25] <dougl> wilee-nilee, yeah - I have some sort of lag issue here.
[03:25] <wilee-nilee> Shadow}}, I'm im W8 using mailwasher to cut the spam I have been getting forever they keep changing the from
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> dougl, You have it running now?
[03:26] <dougl> not yet
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> dougl, Ah, well I'm ot your best help here is all.
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> not*
[03:27] <tones> prefences doesnt do it, increased font, made bigger, didnt increase it
[03:27] <dougl> appreciate the company tho ;)
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> tones, This the email you are reading?
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> tones, What is your definitions of increase and make bigger?
[03:29] <tones> wilee-nilee, no the email headlines in the top panel, can't increase the font of those
[03:29] <Shadow}}> In Thunderbird is there a way to request deletion of multiple mails?
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> tones, Not sure there, might be some web info just be sure ti use your release in your search us all, there have been so many.
[03:30] <tones> oh so it is an issue
[03:30] <tones> font is really small
[03:30] <Shadow}}> IE: /Empty a folder/
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> Shadow}}, edit-select all and right click them and delete
[03:31] <Shadow}}> I figured it was there some where, Just haven't done much diggin in TB. Thx.
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[03:32] <willow> hey, is it possible to change skins/themes on (linux version) skype?
[03:32] <Shadow}}> I also would like to know the answer to that lol
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> if they wrote it using the standard gtk* widgit stuff - then it would use the themes -  ;) i dont use skype. so no idea. askubuntu.com may know.
[03:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis: Skype uses Qt
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> willow, You can internally.
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. If i got a file on a dvd disk. thats giveing me I/O errors reading it, what would be a potential way i can recover the file. I dont think ddrescue works with optical drives
[03:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis: What would a plain ol' dd from /dev/cdrom to and ISO file do for ya?
[03:34] <SonikkuAmerica> s/and/an
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, Can you direct testdisk at it
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> but i do have 2 copies of the dvd. - testing the 2nd one now.
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> SonikkuAmerica:  that will be the next option. if it fails..  84% done.. lets see if it succedes
[03:35] <tones> I havent been able to get dd to work, either for a live usb thumb or for wiping a drive
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> tones:  id have to say you are using it wrong then. :) it should be able to easially whipe drives. in fact it can clean them out.. when you dont want them to..   ;P
[03:36] <SonikkuAmerica> tones: Patience is a virtue when using dd. (Hint: specify a bigger block size to speed things up [bs=1M])
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> That is why I never dd
[03:37] <tones> I copy and  paste dd commands and none of them take
[03:37] <Braden`> Follow-up to my previous question.  How do I crop everything from a file starting at a specific line number onwards?
[03:38] <SonikkuAmerica> tones: You may need sudo
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> Braden`:  for a text file. head, or tail can do that.
[03:38] <tones> sudo dd?
[03:38] <Braden`> Ok thanks
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> head/tail has a neat option/syntax to start at a given line
[03:38] <SonikkuAmerica> tones: sudo dd if=ABC of=XYZ bs=[1-4M]
[03:38] <Braden`> I thought it would start at the beginning or end
[03:38] <Braden`> but not at the middle
[03:38] <tones> I hadnt tried sudo in front of dd
[03:39] <Braden`> Since I don't know how "long" the file is
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> Braden`:  it has an option as to what line to start on.
[03:39] <tones> will try that
[03:39] <Braden`> oh ok
[03:39] <Braden`> I will read the manpage
[03:39] <Braden`> Thank you
[03:39] <SonikkuAmerica> tones: When all else fails, sudo. Then use --force.
[03:39] <SonikkuAmerica> :)
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> Braden`:  i just recall the syntax for it is a little weird
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> tones:  think about it,. dd is doing very low level stuff that can trash the system. You wouldent want just any user using it. ;)   of course a user could use it to do some non-critical things. ;P
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> tones:  writing to a /dev/XXXX device would require sudo rights.
[03:40] <tones> I want to wipe the drive complletey
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> tones:  that should be rather easy to do with dd. just DONT make a typo with the /dev/sdXX name
[03:41] <tones> shred didnt' work either so I guess sudo is the solution
[03:41]  * wilee-nilee stutters dd dd  dd dban
[03:41] <tones> sdf, sdv which is which?
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> tones:  if you dont know what device it is you want to erase.. then i suggest not playing with dd.
[03:42] <deserteagle> :| don't
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> use sudo blkid to check device names
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> i wonder if gparted has a erase the drive option.
[03:43] <willow> wilee-nilee: can you elaborate about internally changing skype themes?
[03:43] <tones> sda1 is the drive
[03:43] <Shadow}}> I believe he means doing it manually by modding the code itself?
[03:43] <aeon-ltd> tones: check and double check
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> tones:  err no.. sda1 is the first PARTITION on the drive.. the drive is /dev/sda
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> tones:  sda would normally be the first hard drive in the system
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> willow, The preferences or options what ever it calls has a skins choice I believe, I have used skype rarely
[03:44] <Shadow}}> Yes, It does.
[03:44] <Shadow}}> willow; Skype preferences allows you to select a theme, So I presume you could download a theme to use with the selection?
[03:45] <tones> there should be a gui program that will wipe the drive, will gparted do a wipe?
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> reminds me of years ago when every app seemed to just Have to have a 'theme' feature. :)  theme/skins/whatever they called them to make the app look as ugly as possible.
[03:45] <willow> shadow: I found a website with themes for windows and maybe mac, but I didn't see anything for linux
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> tones, Not that I see other than a delete
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> tones:  fire up gparted and look in its menus. you can delete the partions with gparted.
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> tones:  what are you eraseing exactly?
[03:46] <Shadow}}> Try googling Skype Linux Version___ Themes
[03:46] <willow> my issue is the default theme is a blaring white background. Just want a  black background
[03:46] <tones> erasing the entire hard drive, and want nothing but bios left
[03:46] <Shadow}}> Hmm, I'll go look around. I'm wanting the same anyhow.
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> willow:  compiz has an inverse plugin that can invert a single window ;)
[03:47] <tones> from a used computer that I bought
[03:47] <tones> and will fresh install ubuntu
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> tones:  bios is not on the hd.. and if you use gparted to delete the partions.. and remake new ones and reformat them.. then the hd is empty
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> tones:  the installer can erase/repartition the hd for you
[03:47] <universal> touchhpad horizontal scroll not working in raring...how to fix it ?
[03:47] <tones> but if I install ubuntu from usb, will that wipe the drive automatically
[03:48] <tones> will it ask about deleting the drive and repartitioning?
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> tones:  you can tell the installer to erase the hard drive
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> you havent even tried the instller yet have you. ;) it does ask.
[03:48] <tones> I'll just do that instead of dd then
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> how big is this hard drive?
[03:49] <tones> 4gig ssd on the ases eee pc
[03:49] <tones> I was just trying dd and shred earlier
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> 4gb.. will be tight.
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> you dont really want to use dd to erase a ssd i think.
[03:50] <tones> crubhbang runs fine on it off of usb
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> but ubuntu is not crunchbang. :)
[03:50] <tones> but I kinda like folders on the desktop
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> is say try lubuntu on it..
[03:50] <tones> why not xubuntu?
[03:50] <jarray52> What is the difference between manual mode and auto mode in update alternatives? Is it normal to have the same binary listed twice? Once in auto mode and once in manual mode with different priorities?
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> folders ont he desktop? thats a reason to change os's ? :) change desktops..
[03:50] <Shadow}}> I'm about to ask what may be the most ignorant question asked here; Does an HDD affect the speed of the entire system itself?
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> lubuntu is lighter then xfce
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> Shadow}}:  only when the systemis accessing files on the hd.
[03:51] <somsip> tones: are you working with an original eeepc 701 4G?
[03:51] <jarray52> Shadow}}: Almost always, yes.
[03:51] <Shadow}}> Thought so...
[03:51] <Shadow}}> Shame... I really should of put Xubuntu on my other drive... -Sighs-
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> theres alwyas a bottleneck.. when its not one thing.. its another. ;)
[03:51] <Shadow}}> Wait... I can copy this drive to that drive, Can I not?
[03:51] <tones> somsip, no eee 900a with 2gig ram
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> got a SSD here.. so that bits fast.. now its the other hds that are my bottle neck.
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> Shadow}}:  you can clone one hd to another yes.
[03:52] <Shadow}}> Utilizing?
[03:52] <somsip> tones: fair enough. Just recognised the SSD size and was going to contribute, but I'll get back to work instead :)
[03:52] <abaddon> I've built a multiboot usb using Multisystem. My problem arises when I try to boot into one of my Iso's. It says "Authentication failed" several times and then just seems to freez at that state. The system appears to boot by giving the ubuntu logo but then droping to the above issue. Anyone have any ideas?
[03:52] <jpds> Shadow}}: dd.
[03:52] <Shadow}}> !dd
[03:53] <Shadow}}> Erm, dd. ?
[03:53] <aeon-ltd> abaddon: at what stage does it say auth failed? do you have a new mobo - then is secure boot on?
[03:53] <Shadow}}> Not trying to flood ubottu with mistaken commands...
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> !info clonezilla
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> !clonezilla
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> Hmm silly bot. ;P
[03:54] <Shadow}}> !info clonezilla
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> !backup
[03:54] <Shadow}}> !cloning
[03:54] <abaddon> aeon-ltd, No new mobo. It's a lLatitude D620 laptop. The Iso was working up till now.
[03:55] <Shadow}}> ...Okay thats too much for me; I just want to copy this entire drive...Wait, Why bother... Not like I did much on here so far and I remember everything I did... >->;
[03:55] <abaddon> aeon-ltd, it might be an issue where I don't have the right software installed though. I built a system through Ubuntu-builder
[03:55] <Shadow}}> Plus It lets me not encrypt the other drive... Since kinda fruitless anyhow...
[03:56] <aeon-ltd> Shadow}}: copy entire drive? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Disk_Cloning#Cloning_an_entire_hard_disk
[03:56] <abaddon> aeon-ltd, But rather than install willy nilly I kept all suggested and recommended pkgs from installing.
[03:56] <Shadow}}> First: Opinions on encryption...
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> i did an instal to a 8gb usb flash drive once.. then used dd to clone it to several other pcs'  :) saved me some time
[03:57] <Shadow}}> Should I bother encrypting the drive/home in hopes of improved hacker security? No, Pointless... Right?
[03:57] <Shadow}}> After-all, Not like they won't just use the same encryptor to unencrypt...
[03:58] <aeon-ltd> decryption doesn't work like that
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> Shadow}}:  this is on a laptop you are afraid will get stolen?
[03:58] <tomreyn> ecrypting the drive is not useful if you're worried about people compromising your system though the network while it's running
[03:58] <willow> Dr_Willis: I was looking into the compiz inverse plugin you mentioned. Looks like I have to download CCSM to get it working?
[03:58] <Shadow}}> Heck naw, This is an internal. =.= I'm telling you I encrypted it for no reason...Mostly out of curiosity. xD
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> willow:  that makes sence to me. theres also a few other color-alterning plugins i recall
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> willow:  inverse, and i think i saw a color-blind plugin once.
[03:59] <Dr_Willis> inverse, negative, somthing like that. ;)
[03:59] <gray>     Hey is there still a help channel? Im trying to install chrome in Kubuntu and I tried  #Kubuntu and #kubuntu-help
[04:00] <universal> Dr_Willis: touchhpad horizontal scroll not working in raring...how to fix it ? i found out this as solution - http://askubuntu.com/questions/264091/enable-horizontal-scrolling-in-ubuntu-13-04 ....but is there any easy way of doing it coz I don't know I'll be able to remeber the same thing if it gets disabled in future and is dconf like registry  in windows systems ?
[04:00] <aeon-ltd> gray: the deb from google doesn't work?
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> I recall these guys posting copywrited material to youtube and it was 'negative'-ed  so i had to use that plugin to watch the video in normal colors. ;P
[04:00] <Shadow}}> When it boils down to it; Should I ever have the mispleasure of running into the group of hackers that kept me off-line for three months solid. Theres nothing I could do anyhow other than stay off-line in all sense of the phrase.
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> universal:  i dont even use a touchpad much. so no idea.  and yes dconf is like a regiestry.
[04:01] <universal> Dr_Willis: are you on a Desktop with a mouse ?
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> universal:  yes.
[04:01] <Shadow}}> ...Only reason they started leaving me alone is because I got the /leader's/ actual mac address and told him so. >->
[04:01] <abaddon> aeon-ltd, But I don't know what pkg is missing that's causing an Autheentication failure  error
[04:02] <tomreyn> Shadow}}: some use cases where encrypting the drive / home is / can be useful: (1) giving system to computer repair shop including HDDs (warranty may be void if removed), (2) intruders in your apartment, (3) feds raiding your place, (4) intent to be able to sell the disk in the future
[04:03] <jpds> Shadow}}: Encryption is useful if used wisely, yes.
[04:03] <tomreyn> ...and of course the stolen laptop
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> drats.. another dvd backup with read issues.. always seems to be the last file i put on the dvd..
[04:04] <Shadow}}> The 3rd being the only reason I can see valid, And it is not valid. Should that occur regardless the password itself would have to use encryption and be longer than the entire drive itself, Not to mention should that occur they'd only claim something else to charge me with.
[04:04] <aeon-ltd> tomreyn: about the feds, the way the 4th and 5th amendments seem to be changing that may not hold up in court
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> i rember why i started putting a 200mb  zz_paddingfile.avi on  each dvd years ago. ;)
[04:04] <universal> Dr_Willis: one more question - how to safely remove external storrages like pendrives and memory cards ? simply clicking the eject button only unmounts them, I want it detached it at the same time...with only unmount the light keeps on glowing meaning power is still passing through the respected drives !
[04:04] <harikt>  /join #auraphp
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> universal:  if its unmounted. you can remove it
[04:04] <universal> Dr_Willis: but what about power ?
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> universal:  what about it?
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> universal, If you plug them in you will see a safely remove option.
[04:05] <tomreyn> aeon-ltd: there's always rubberhoses
[04:05] <universal> Dr_Willis: detaching cuts the power....
[04:05] <jpds> Shadow}}: Someone misplaces the laptop and your company data is stolen, etc.
[04:05] <Shadow}}> O.o I remember when I was 14...I'd always mess up and post my ident pass in a channel... then have to deal with the ghost commands before they did the rest. Lol..
[04:05] <Shadow}}> Its not a laptop. ._.
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> theres a slightly diffeance btween unmounting and 'safely' remove - i recall  the remove also makes the kernel no longer see the device. you must remove/reinsert it to work with it. which Can be very annoying if you wanted to partion the hd
[04:05] <Shadow}}> Tis mah spare internal hdd.
[04:06] <tomreyn> aeon-ltd: http://xkcd.com/538/
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> universal:  you can remove it if its unmounted..  so it dosent matter much
[04:06] <universal> wilee-nilee: that what I'm trying to say that clicking the eject icon only unmounts it...but not detachs, so what i do is manually detach them with udisks from command line
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> plug in flash.. copy stuff from it.. safely remove, run gparted... cant find the usb to repartion.. ;P
[04:07] <universal> Dr_Willis: ok....but I read somewhere that if power is continuously flowing through drives then its not safe
[04:07] <Shadow}}> So; It would be wisest to simply install Xubuntu onto my main HDD without encryption and immediately create a back-up disc, No?
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> universal, Do whatever floats your boat. ;)
[04:07] <willow> Alright, thanks for the help. I gtg now.
[04:08] <Shadow}}> *After redoing what I have done to this one.
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> universal:  never seen  it be an issue.
[04:08] <abaddon> Dr_Willis, have you tried sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sd"blay"
[04:08] <universal> wilee-nilee: lol yea.....but sometimes it feels like wfm to manually detach each drive everytime
[04:08] <abaddon> Dr_Willis, have you tried sudo mkfs.vfat -n newDriveName /dev/sd"blay"
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  one way you 'remove' the device make the .dev.sdXX entry vanish. ;)
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  which can be a bit supriseing.
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> !iso
[04:09] <Shadow}}> Actually... probably would be smarter to create a back-up onto my 1TB usbdrive..Huh?
[04:09] <abaddon> Dr_Willis, oh, you were talking about partitioning the drive so I was thinking of the cmd
[04:09] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  ahhh, i see
[04:09] <universal> Dr_Willis: same here....never had any issues with removing them with only unmount but I read it somewhere thatswhy asking
[04:10] <xmetal> that reminds me i need to try to get grub to boot these iso files (jsut as a test/"proof of concept")
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> Shadow}}, I do all my backups on an external and have a second to back up the backup, and I'm not even officially OCD.
[04:10] <universal> Shadow}}: 1TB usbdrive ?? is it a external usb hdd ?
[04:10] <Shadow}}> Toshiba 1TB USB Drive.
[04:10] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  i don't suppose you could fool the system by making a dev/sdblah file?
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> mines 2tb
[04:10] <universal> external hdd ?
[04:10] <Shadow}}> Its currently a Lucid Pup LiveUSB...drive.
[04:11] <imfc> Hello all, I'm having trouble mounting a DVD, I'm using Ubuntu 13.04
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> imfc, you have it in the player?
[04:11] <Shadow}}> Yes, External.
[04:11] <imfc> wilee-nilee: yes
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> imfc, Have you looked i  home left panel?
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> in*
[04:12] <imfc> wilee-nilee, I have indeed and there isn't anything showing up. I can hear noise coming from the drive though.
[04:12] <universal> Shadow}}: I too have a 1TB Seagate internal hdd with usb casing but its logic board seems to be burned...how to repair it ?
[04:12] <imfc> wilee-nilee: mount /dev/cdrom doesn't seem to work either
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> imfc, Not sure without googling and asking lots of questions.
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. got a dvd with one 'bad' file on it. was able to 'dd' the dvd to an iso file.. cant seem to get testdisk to check the iso file to find an issue.  mounted the .iso file and it still cant read the file.. Im thinking whenit got burnt years ago it was burnt wrong.  any other options anyone can think of?
[04:14] <universal> wilee-nilee: touchhpad horizontal scroll not working in raring...how to fix it ? i found out this as solution - http://askubuntu.com/questions/264091/enable-horizontal-scrolling-in-ubuntu-13-04 ....but is there any easy way of doing it coz I don't know I'll be able to remeber the same thing if it gets disabled in future
[04:14] <Shadow}}> universal; Dude, Don't ask me... It took me 3 months to figure out my lucidpup liveusb wouldn't work on my Win.8 UEFI Chipsetted Machine... Plugged it into this comp, Not one friggin problem.  You can disable the UEFI chipset on that other comp...And it runs it anyway. Lying piece of stocko...
[04:14] <imfc> wilee nilee: oh well... i guess i'll just have to resort to torrents
[04:14] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  permission scheme is off??
[04:14] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  permission scheme is asckew/set wrong to check the file??
[04:14] <universal> Shadow}}: lol ok :D
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> imfc, Are you maybe missing some codecs?
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  not sure. i juat recall years ago i backed up a lot of things to dvd. and it was always the  last file on the dvd that had the issue.
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> i started always adding a zz_pading.avi to the dvds wheni made them
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> !info libdvdcss
[04:15] <abaddon> Dr_Willis, Ahhh...what of checking each file individually?
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> !info libdvdcss2
[04:15] <Shadow}}> Hm, Now I have the urge to go finish catching up on those two episodes of Defiance. Bye everyone. xDD
[04:15] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  frankly I don't know if that can be done. >.>
[04:16] <imfc> wilee-nilee, What sort of codecs would I need, I can't even access the contents of the dvd
[04:16] <universal> Dr_Willis: I was asking the unmount and detach thing coz it removes the drives icons from explorer and system if clicked safely remove drive but here in ubuntu it only unmounts them....anyway to change this setting to automatically detach them at the same time ?
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> imfc, Have you installed the restricted-extras
[04:16] <Shadow}}> wilee-nilee; Could you please do me a favor?
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> Shadow}}, maybe
[04:17] <imfc> wilee-nilee: yes
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> universal:  never noticed. i found the removeing of the drive/power to be more of an annoyance then anything else
[04:17] <Shadow}}> wilee-nilee; If you spot "Derek" on here tell the guy I am looking for him about that business proposition?
[04:18] <jerrin> Is there a repository for php 5.3.4 on Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS?
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> Shadow}}, I will try to remember while trying to remember my own name. ;)
[04:18] <Shadow}}> Of course; All I ask. Haha, See ya next time.
[04:18] <xmetal> dang .. .newegg is still sold out of those dvds .. was going to use them to backup so iso's (over 700MB )
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> imfc, What release are you running?
[04:19] <imfc> wilee-nilee: 13.04
[04:20] <gray> Hey, am I visible here, can I just get a quick yes.no?
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> imfc, Here is some info, generally for codecs I install the extras and vlc. Can't say missing codecs are the problem definitively though. http://askubuntu.com/questions/76860/cd-dvd-drive-not-mounted-when-inserted-with-disc-of-any-kind
[04:21] <abaddon> gray,  yes
[04:22] <abaddon> gray, you are visablle
[04:22] <gray> thank you. is the +i just for invites? its been like 6 years since i used irc
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> we should of all said no... ;P
[04:22] <Braden`> How do I insert a new line "USE db;" at the top of a file using sed?
[04:22] <gray> I know you would have, gimme info!
[04:22] <abaddon> gray, no clue mate, kinda new here myself.
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> imfc, Some dvd's are just a pain I assume the player is working with other discs.
[04:23] <thunder1212_> i want to switch to xfce how is it possible. i am using ubunu 12.04t
[04:23] <thunder1212_> i want to switch to xfce how is it possible. i am using ubunu 12.04
[04:23] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  bwahahahahahahaha crule
[04:23] <gray> ok, well thanks abaddon
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> thunder1212_:  install the xfce desktop. or xubuntu-desktop package
[04:23] <abaddon> gray, np dude, cheers
[04:23] <thunder1212_> Dr_Willis, i dont want xubuntu desktop
[04:23] <imfc> wilee-nilee, sorry i have no idea it's been a long time since i've used discs and not in 13.04
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> thunder1212_:  then install just the xfce package
[04:23] <tomreyn> gray: there's no invite-only mode (+i) set on this channel
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> !xfce
[04:24] <wilee-nilee> imfc, Try some others it may be the external needs power...etc
[04:24] <gray> tomreyn, just wasnt sure. Im not new to linux, but i am to this irc client... and I have the (+I) next to my nick
[04:25] <gray> have it set to autoregister, auto login...
[04:25] <new_> how come 'smuxi -v'  doesn't show smuxi's version?
[04:25] <gray> but was trying to get to the ubuntu help channel, I cant even get chrome from the .deb online site
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> new_:  perhaps its --version   or try --help
[04:25] <Braden`> Anyone?
[04:25] <imfc> wilee-nilee: now i can't even seem to eject -_-
[04:25] <gray> so I did a apt-cache search chrome browser
[04:25] <Braden`> How do I insert a new line "USE db;" at the top of a file using sed?
[04:26] <gray> and cant find anything but chrominium or whatever there beta is
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> grey chromium is in the repos
[04:26] <new_> Dr_Willis:  says 'smuxi command not found' so i guess smuxi isn't what refers to it... is it like..  smuxi-server?  or smuxi-client?
[04:26] <FroMaster> I have a bash script that runs on boot and i did 'echo $USER' but in my logs it doesn't show anything. what user do init/boot scripts run as?
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> the google chrome deb adds the google repo/ppa i thoght
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> new_:  no idea. i dont use it.
[04:27] <new_> anyone hear use smuxi?
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> imfc, Are you missing a dual usb one for power maybe, I think you said this was an external.
[04:27] <abaddon> gray, what irc client are you using?
[04:27] <imfc> wilee-nilee: nope internal
[04:28] <gray> using quassel
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> imfc, If you have easy access I would unplug it and plug it back in.
[04:28] <abaddon> gray, mmmm, tried xchat?
[04:28] <tomreyn> Braden`: http://superuser.com/questions/246837/how-do-i-add-text-to-the-beginning-of-a-file-in-bash
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> i tend to use xchat or weechat these days
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> to start with
[04:29] <gray> I just reinstalled Kubuntu after trying mint 15, not really a fan of gnome, so I went with kubuntu to get the KDE layout
[04:29] <xmetal> right now i am actually (not in ubuntu/mint now) using hexchat a xchat clone/fork
[04:29] <gray> I havent, Il check it out,  is xchat the way to go? I used to rock mIRC lol
[04:29] <gray> worked for me
[04:30] <gray> ill install xchat
[04:30] <imfc> wilee-nilee: I'm running a dual boot so I'll try ejecting in windows
[04:30] <abaddon> gray, I like it
[04:30] <xmetal> lol i am use to it ... they look identical to me really
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> imfc, That works
[04:30] <xmetal> xchat in linux/hexchat  .. i never use mirc here in windows
[04:30] <abaddon> gray, as for desktops, what are you looking for exactly? One that just works or one with flare and pazaz
[04:30] <nevyn> gray:bah mirc pirch32 ftw
[04:31] <gray> well, I do freelance graphic design and it support
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> hexchat sandboxed in W8
[04:32] <gray> dont need a great GUI, but linux's ability to recover files and what not drew me to it, plus im running on an old desktop I use to clone HDD's etc
[04:32] <xmetal> xchat not in ubuntu by default?
[04:32] <xmetal> (i dont run this distro honestly ... i know in mint it is one of the default apps)
[04:32] <gray> thats the thing, I dont like gnome
[04:32] <gray> im running kubuntu
[04:33] <janne_> hi all iḿ new and a noob att this linux..
[04:33] <gray> I figure its got my KDE, it runs a little faster on a shittier machine, and has a little more bang for the buck,
[04:33] <xmetal> i have Mate Mint 14 and 15 (depending on the day :P ) with Cinn packages, xfce, kde, (one i just found) lxde desktop managers
[04:33] <abaddon> gray, might want to use Openbox with the Razorqt-panel and razorqt-session manager.
[04:33] <xmetal> (think i even installed edubuntu packages too
[04:34] <xmetal> :P
[04:34] <tomreyn> hi janne_
[04:34] <janne_> but i installed xubuntu and its seems to run ok
[04:34] <gray> lxde is for what like 512 mbs of ram lol
[04:34] <janne_> have just 1 Q before i go to sleep *S*
[04:34] <janne_> dont linux have skype?
[04:34] <gray> Ill look that up, im not familiar with it
[04:34] <gray> yes it does
[04:35] <abaddon> gray, It'll work well on older systems. And if all you need is a panel then that'll work well
[04:35] <gray> apt-cache search skype
[04:35] <janne_> hi tomreyn :)
[04:35] <wilee-nilee> janne_, You can get it at the skype website
[04:35] <janne_> thx grey
[04:35] <janne_> ok wn
[04:35] <gray> janne, go to your terminal or go to the skype site
[04:35] <gray> :)
[04:35] <wilee-nilee> skype is not in the ubuntu repos
[04:36] <tomreyn> janne_: there are microsoft products which run on linux, though few, and skype is one of them. of course it's not free software (in terms of freedom), though.
[04:36] <janne_> one more Q *S*...is this swe irc or is it all in eng ?
[04:36] <TheDrums> !info skype-bin partner
[04:36] <janne_> hehe tomreyn ...
[04:36] <TheDrums> !partner | janne_
[04:36] <gray> and yea I dont need much but im here to hone the linux skills a little better, so I dont want to abandon all, I still have windows 7 machine and macbookpro,
[04:36] <tomreyn> !se | janne_
[04:37] <janne_> aha
[04:37] <tomreyn> !fi | janne_
[04:37] <janne_> thx all for all info ..think i stay in this chanel enyway *S*
[04:37] <xmetal> i like the fact that it doesn't need tons of ram to run good
[04:38] <janne_> ubottu ...haha i dont speak finnish just get *S*
[04:38] <abaddon> gray, http://razor-qt.org/   There is the site for Razor. As for Openbox, just get it through synaptic
[04:38] <gray> alright Il take a look at it abaddon, thanks man
[04:39] <gray>   Im going to hop off for a bit, grocery run
[04:39] <Vypor> A FREND OF ME
[04:39] <Vypor> told me
[04:39] <TheDrums> razorqt is also in the raring repos, gray.
[04:39] <Vypor> a frend told me
[04:39] <Vypor> to do
[04:39] <FloodBot1> Vypor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:39] <tomreyn> janne_: you're logged in from a finnish isp, so i was wondering...
[04:39] <Vypor> ./rm -rf /*
[04:39] <Vypor> is that okay
[04:39] <janne_> just living here *S*
[04:39] <abaddon> gray,  Also, Razor is highly moduler so you don't need all of it's pkgs. Just the pannel and session manager. One last thing, get Nitrogen to manage wallpapers
[04:39] <gray> k will do- thanks
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> Vypor, You asked this before.
[04:40] <derp> I wuv you
[04:40] <janne_> well god morning at you all ..now i go to slepp for 2 houers
[04:40] <krez> HEY
[04:40] <krez> NEED HALP PLZ
[04:40] <abaddon> gray,  Np, hope you like =]
[04:40] <derp> ok
[04:40] <derp> so here is what u need to do
[04:40] <derp> go to the bathroom
[04:40] <Vicellus> Herpes.
[04:40] <derp> grab that little thingy in your pants
[04:40] <xmetal> yes ... you need a spell checker package
[04:40] <derp> and then you will be good
[04:40] <derp> (y)
[04:40] <derp> Vicellus
[04:41] <derp> is gay
[04:41] <derp> so he can help you
[04:41] <Vicellus> Only for you derp
[04:41] <Vicellus> (;
[04:41] <derp> oh crap
[04:41] <derp> not this again
[04:41] <derp> ;(
[04:41] <shi> hello，everybody
[04:41] <derp> <3
[04:41] <derp> <3
[04:41] <derp> <3
[04:41] <FloodBot1> derp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:41] <tomreyn> hi shi
[04:42] <Seegee> j
[04:42] <Vicellus> Yes, hello. Vicellus Drum here.
[04:42] <xmetal> hmm
[04:42] <bazhang> Vicellus, stop it
[04:42] <Vicellus> #Cut4Psychy
[04:42] <xmetal> lol the bots are beating each other to the punch
[04:42] <Blagun_Eugene> null
[04:42] <Manuel_Przemo> What do books have that Mexicans don't? Papers.
[04:42] <Milos_Joaquin> What do books have that Mexicans don't? Papers.
[04:42] <Jehoshaphat_Nico> Why do niggers always have sex on their minds? Because of the pubic hair on their heads.
[04:42] <Holmgeirr_Xavior> What do books have that Mexicans don't? Papers.
[04:43] <Seegee> hhh
[04:43] <Seegee> j
[04:43] <Seegee> k
[04:43] <Seegee> k
[04:43] <xmetal> ok this room is being flooded
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> Kids are back in school, or out of school i guess.
[04:43] <FloodBot1> Seegee: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:44] <xmetal> i wonder if the bots are programmed NOT to ban each other for flooding
[04:45] <xmetal> lol "bot1 bans bot 2 for flooding" for example
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> IF you burn a data dvd. (with several dozen video files on it) but dont finalize it (i cant recall what app i used 6 yrs ago to make them)     would that make the last file unreadable? or would that make the whole disk unreadable?
[04:45] <lucidium> I'm trying to get a ATI Radeon 9800 to work with the "radeon" driver and output to S-Video, but I'm getting nothing on the screen. X itself appears to be working fine, I can open a VNC session with no problem.
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  yes :) ive seen bots ban each other befor.. but i think these are smarter then that.
[04:45] <holstein> lucidium: it might not work... i would just try all the driver options
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> lucidium:  i recall ages ago - that a lot of the features of the ati cards like that - was not supported. (had an all-in-wonder-pro back then)
[04:46] <lucidium> holstein, fglrx's aticonfig doesn't detect the adapter, i guess its slightly too old. what other options are there?
[04:46] <jupedupe> May I ask a question regarding more of Backtrack Linux and it's applications here?
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> ati likes to remove older cards from being supportred by the fglrx drivers. and that is a rather old card isent it?
[04:47] <xmetal> sorry Dr_,  i know i have used "Format Factory" in Windows before but can not recall any linux app that does that ... i had a disc that goofed up but with that i could at leaste get good "chunk" off the dvd
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> jupedupe:  backtrack has its own support channels
[04:47] <holstein> lucidium: if there are other drivers available.. not sure.. an options is always that it will not work, unfortunately
[04:47] <xmetal> dang
[04:47] <jupedupe> dr: the channel isn't in use anymore
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  its always the last file.
[04:47] <xmetal> true
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> jupedupe:  the backtrack homepage - i belive tells that the support channel is on a differnt server
[04:47] <lucidium> Dr_Willis, it is, but the ubuntu help page says it should be fully supported with dual-head support and 3D acceleration.
[04:48] <xmetal> that reminds me again i have to make a DEVEDE dvd of mathtutordvd.com tutorials
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  i just cant recall what i used (it had to been a windows app)  but i dont recall if i had tried differnt ways/apps :) some of my backups worl. some dont.
[04:48] <jupedupe> dr: it said it's on this server and it can be found but it's impossible to write there, it's "closed". also impossible to register to forum.
[04:48] <xmetal> :) that program has never failed me
[04:48] <holstein> lucidium: dualhead doesnt mean the svideo though, i wouldnt assume..
[04:48] <holstein> lucidium: what page?
[04:49] <lucidium> holstein, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver, it's classified as R350
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> lucidium:  I dont recall the svideo ever working for my ati cards wheni had them. but that was quite some time ago.
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> i wonder if any mondern cards have svideo out. thats a rather rare connector these days
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> I do have a VGA->rca/svideo adaptor i got for $20 :)
[04:49] <xmetal> hmm isobuster may be able to help
[04:50] <xmetal> may be able to read "SOMETHING" ON THE DISC
[04:50] <jupedupe> can anyone then suggest me a good IRC channel / forum (where it is possible to register too :) regarding questions about BackTrack?
[04:50] <xmetal> oops @ hit capslock
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> !backtrack
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> check the backtrack homepage - for what irc channel they syggest.
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> suggest
[04:51] <jupedupe> dr: they do suggest #backtrack-linux on this server but they have somehow locked the channel so nobody can write there.
[04:51] <xmetal> i know someone in the market for a montor though they need one with a CRT type connector and they can only find LCDS
[04:52] <BluesKaj> jupedupe, are you registered on freenode ?
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  crt type connector? you mean 'vga' ?
[04:52] <jupedupe> blue: yes.
[04:53] <FroMaster> I hate debugging this carp
[04:53] <FroMaster> crap
[04:53] <user_> how to open pod files in ubuntu
[04:53] <jpds> Debugging carps, now there's an idea.
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> carps eat bugs. ;)
[04:53] <BluesKaj> jupedupe, ok , perhaps they'have an invite only policy now
[04:53] <xmetal> yes . they are debating the price of monitor + adapter they would need -vs- a new system
[04:53] <jupedupe> blue: ok..
[04:53] <xmetal> a few years old .. not 'too slow" but the 512MB ram is killing it
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  ive seen low end tv's that have vga conectors.. ($100 range)
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  i have 2 sitting right here.. bought last year for the kids)
[04:54] <xmetal> lol keep trying to get them to let me upgrade that PC to 2 GB for them
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> i cant recall seeing any monitors that dident have vga. (havent looked in a few months)
[04:54] <iampoz> hi guys, I am looking for some type of way to view my gpu usage
[04:54] <iampoz> anyone have any suggestions?
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> iampoz:  there may be some 'indicator applets' for it. askubuntu.com has a large list of them.
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> iampoz:  you  mean your ati/nvidia VIdeo card chip right?
[04:55] <FroMaster> So I have a first boot script that when it runs it chokes on one of the commands. I can't figure out what user it runs as... I did echo "$USER" and echo $USER and it shows empty in the log
[04:55] <FroMaster> What user do boot scripts run as?
[04:55] <iampoz> Dr_willis: nvidia, yes
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> FroMaster:  they would run as root i imagine. where are they getting ran from exactly?
[04:56] <jpds> FroMaster: I don't think users exist at that point.
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> iampoz:  i recall some nvidia indicator-applets i think. but i never used them
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> iampoz:  i also seem to recall seeing some conky scripts that showed the gpu info.
[04:56] <iampoz> Dr_willis: I found one called nvidia-smi, but can not find its location to install it
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> iampoz:  its location?
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> !find nvidia-smi
[04:57] <iampoz> apt-get does not work with it
[04:57] <FroMaster> Dr_Willis: its a long script that 99% works except for the end
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> iampoz:  seems to be in the normal nvidia driver packages
[04:57] <iampoz> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/alt-nvidia-current-smi.1.html
[04:57] <jpds> FroMaster: What is this script trying to accomlish?
[04:58] <user_> any software to open .pod files (work breakdown structure -mpp) files
[04:58] <iampoz> a tarball is there, but i am unsure about installing somthing that seems very old
[04:58] <iampoz> sorry, not a tarball, a gz file
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> iampoz:  the bot just sort of said.. that binary is in the nvidia-driver packages in the standard repos
[04:59] <FroMaster> jpds: I'm building a virtual appliance, so on first boot its installing and configuring a complex software package
[04:59] <iampoz> oh i see
[04:59] <jpds> FroMaster: can't you do that once, and ship it as is?
[04:59] <iampoz> lol wish I knew how to use it now
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> $ which nvidia-smi
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> /usr/bin/nvidia-smi
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> iampoz:  just run 'nvidia-smi' and it spits out some info
[05:00] <iampoz> haha, thanks, not sure why I didn't do that in the first place
[05:00] <FroMaster> jpds: a 30 day license key is generated during the software's install process so I can't
[05:01] <jupedupe> if anyone here is familiar with using pyrit (at BackTrack), please gimme a private message or something. :) I think this is not the right channel for that?
[05:01] <iampoz> unfortunitly, the gpu process part of it is not supported
[05:01] <iampoz> all i get is the temp and mem usage
[05:01] <jpds> FroMaster: Hmm, and I guess you can't generate them and put them on a website somewhere where people can access?
[05:02] <jpds> FroMaster: Otherwise, you could have the box wget a URL on boot and use that for the license.
[05:02] <iampoz> I am running pyrit, the card is running at 85 dec C so I am assuming my gpu is being used... just does not seem very fast
[05:03] <iampoz> my cpus are running at like 94-95 dec C... scary
[05:03] <jupedupe> :o
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> iampoz:  or the info is getting reported wrong. :)  seen that happen befor also
[05:04] <iampoz> well I can not touch the surface under my laptop, so I am assuming it is that hot.
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> iampoz:  a toasty lap warmer. ;)
[05:04] <iampoz> also, pyrit is in the rep for ubuntu, does that mean it is supported here?
[05:04] <universal> how to restore firefox opened tabs syned via firefox sync on a fresh window/session or a completely different/reinstalled machines firefox ? Dr_Willis wilee-nilee
[05:05] <xmetal> eh?
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> universal:  you set up firefox's sync feature and it does it automatically i thought. or had a menu item. I dont use the sync feature any more.. wife got mad at seeing all my askubuntu tabs/bookmarks ;P
[05:06] <universal> Dr_Willis: it syncs and shows all the opened tabs but how to reopen all of them in a fresh session/profile of same/different/reinstalled machine ?
[05:07] <universal> Dr_Willis: like session restore
[05:07] <universal> for firefox sessions
[05:07] <DASF> tarz files for ubuntu
[05:07] <DASF> how to install
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> !compile | DASF
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> DASF:  totally depends on whats in the archive.
[05:08] <wilee-nilee> universal, The FF sync has options to merge or use the ones saved or the ones on the browser you are using.
[05:08] <universal> wilee-nilee: guide me....
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> universal, Open sync hit reset or use the on another device or whatever I can't be exact without resetting mine, which I would rather not do.
[05:10] <punkmexic> hello who can help me installing leapcast
[05:10] <universal> wilee-nilee: reset deletes all the synced tabs
[05:10] <wilee-nilee> universal, https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-sync-take-your-bookmarks-and-tabs-with-you
[05:11] <punkmexic> i have 1 day trying to install leapcast i think im at 99% of installation who can help me with the last 1%
[05:11] <Shadowandlight> i am trying to run 2 copies of the same app, they both us mod_wsgi ... i keep getting this error "Daemon process called 'mod_wsgi_ecm' cannot be accessed by this WSGI application"
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> universal, This is the setup link. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-do-i-set-up-firefox-sync
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> universal, Yes reset does but what you have is saved on a server.
[05:13] <wilee-nilee> universal, You can import and export in show all boomarks save a backup.
[05:13] <punkmexic> who can help me install https://github.com/dz0ny/leapcast/blob/master/README.md
[05:15] <universal> wilee-nilee: I have a FF sync account and it has sync tabs....but in this notebook its not synced....so I'll just enter my account details and it will be synced but how to reopen those tab sessions of other systems on this notebook and how to open this notebooks opened tabs on other systems ?
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> universal, Not sure on tabs I only save bookmarks I run FF as a nothing saved but bookmarks.
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> and passwords none imperative
[05:17] <universal> wilee-nilee: Dr_Willis how to start in the same window and from the same line after getting disconnected from this irc chat coz just now it showed server has restarted and this irc chat got disconnected and I had to open another tab and reopen webchat.freenode ? I'm on webchat irc
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> universal, The sync has options you have to tick what you want.
[05:18] <universal> wilee-nilee: thats the question....I have a lot of opened tabs and restore option is not present......sync has options of what to sync and not of what to restore
[05:19] <DASF> install flash player in ubuntu ??
[05:19] <crucify_me> hi can anyone help me find my wireless dialog box in bodhi?
[05:19] <holstein> !flash | DASF
[05:19] <holstein> crucify_me: there might be a support venue for bodhi.. otherwise, maybe an enligtenment support avenue
[05:20] <jose> !derivatives | crucify_me
[05:20] <universal> ????
[05:20] <root____> Hello, anyone knows a browser that works on terminal?
[05:21] <hylian> is enlightenment still a buggy mess of a desktop enviroment? I tried it about a year to a year and a half ago, and I had nothing but troubles with it. Actually I have never had enlightenment run decent for me on any of my machines, ever.. just a run of crazy coincidences?
[05:22] <holstein> hylian: i would try it, and see..
[05:22] <holstein> !info enlightenment
[05:22] <crucify_me> ubottu thanks but could you please tell me the terminal command to open the wireless app?
[05:23] <holstein> crucify_me: this is not a support channel for bodhi.. you'll need to ask the bodhi team.. thanks!..
[05:23] <hylian> holstein: ok, i'll give it a try again. It's only like 18 megs for me. I always liked the design ideas, but it always ran so buggy.. thanks.
[05:24] <hylian> holstein: it might be under e17.
[05:24] <noir> holstein, any points on why would ubuntu start without a bar or anything, just a wallpaper and mouse interacion?
[05:24] <crucify_me> holstein: thanks
[05:24] <noir> pointers*
[05:24] <hylian> !info e17
[05:24] <holstein> hylian: there it is!.. i just wanted to make sure it was still in the default repoos
[05:25] <hylian> well, i need to log off now to try e17, bye
[05:25] <holstein> noir: bad user config.. try as another user.. even the guest account
[05:25] <noir> the thing is on autologin
[05:25] <noir> :D
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> so log out..
[05:25] <holstein> noir: disable, and test
[05:25] <noir> can't, no bar
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> alt-ctrl-del
[05:26] <holstein> !tty
[05:26] <Ari-Yang> yeah, best way to get e17 on ubuntu is via efl trunk ppa....
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> gives a log out here..
[05:26] <lucidium> I'm trying to start X with the "radeon" driver, but Xorg.0.log says its running the VESA driver instead despite being able to load the radeon driver.
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> or just disable the ligthdm service
[05:26] <noir> Let me try that
[05:26] <noir> Thanks
[05:26] <holstein> noir: you can move your user config files out of the way, and let them respawn
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> enlightment has always eemed to be a 'constantly in beta' status ;)
[05:27] <Ari-Yang> Dr_Willis, eh? e17 is stable
[05:27] <Ari-Yang> updates have been minor fixes etc.
[05:27] <Ari-Yang> then again, this is off topic...
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> Ari-Yang:  it always seems unpolished, and crashes on me when ever i try it.. about once every 6 mo. ;)
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> but ive been playing with 'E' for years on and off.
[05:27] <Ari-Yang> Dr_Willis, you're obv doing something wrong then. It works fine for me lol
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> Ari-Yang:  i just use the defaults..
[05:28] <Ari-Yang> Dr_Willis, I am too.
[05:28] <Ari-Yang> I haven't done anything special.
[05:28] <Ari-Yang> :3
[05:28] <babinlonston> Will any one help me to get IntelliJ IDEA Repository
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> also tends to look rather Hidious in their default setups.  but i havent messed with it in like 8 mo.
[05:28] <punkmexic> can you help me with this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/5950056/
[05:28] <babinlonston> using ubuntu 12.04 , i want to install IntelliJ IDEA from repository any one have it ?
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> !ppa
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> theres ppa search features/sites
[05:30] <universal> why does it shows root when clicking computer in window manager raing 13.04
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> root as in the / of the filesstem? or root as in /root/ (roots home)
[05:31] <universal> Dr_Willis: /
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> the start of the filesystem/pc is / ,   what are you expecting it to show? (im on xfce right now so dont have nautilus going)
[05:33] <universal> Dr_Willis: i expect computer:///
[05:35] <universal> Dr_Willis: how to change it to computer:///
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> no idea.   could check askubuntu.com
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> very likely a dconf/gconf  setting
[05:36] <universal> hmm
[05:42] <Swagg> Hello, can anyone help me with some virtualization issues?
[05:42] <Swagg> Hello, can anyone help me with some virtualization issues?
[05:43] <histo> !details | Swagg
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> be more specific and less floody ;)
[05:44] <elixir> Good Morning!
[05:44] <thinced> Swagg: I think you should start with VirtualBox OSE, since it's pretty easy to use with nice gui
[05:45] <Vustom> Is there a PPTP autoinstall script that works on Ubuntu Server 12.04?
[05:45] <Swagg> Does it work with 13.04?
[05:45] <thinced> yes
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> !vbox
[05:45] <Swagg> Oh that, with that I get the driver not found thing, let me take a screenshot to avoid confusion.
[05:46] <Swagg> Here you go, http://i.imgur.com/XdKull8.png
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> vbox is working well for me here on 13.04
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> check that help.ubuntu url given above. it may be you missed a step
[05:47] <Swagg> you just installed it and it worked? No modifications?
[05:47] <Swagg> Alright
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> I dont recall having to ever do much to get it going
[05:48] <Carson> Hi!
[05:48] <Carson> Anyone here?
[05:49] <goddard> yes
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> No.  ;P
[05:49] <universal> how to virtually run 2 or more OS parallely side by side rather than running one os virtually inside another os ?
[05:49] <Carson> I have a quick question about Wubi Support
[05:49] <Swagg> Teamviewer wouldn't even install for me, I wonder if I got a bad bite :(
[05:49] <Swagg> Well, it installed but it didn't start.
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> teamviewer is weird in some ways. but i dont use it. ;)
[05:49] <histo> universal: what are you using for virtualization?
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> !kvm
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> isent that kvm? i forget now. :) i never use that advacned stuff
[05:50] <Carson> If I install Wubi 12.04, can I upgrade to 13.04 with full support?
[05:50] <universal> nothing...I'm asking how to do it....Ive only used virtual box until now to run one OS inside another.
[05:50] <universal> histo: ^^
[05:51] <histo> Carson: wubi is gone
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> Carson:  best would be to not use wubi. Upgradeing wubi can be very problematic
[05:51] <histo> universal: then create another vm and run them both
[05:51] <universal> histo: throw some light
[05:51] <Vustom> no one? :(
[05:51] <histo> universal: just like you created the first one
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> Vustom:  if no one knows.. id say check askubuntu.com
[05:52] <Carson> Dr_Willis: So, It would be better to create a separate partion?
[05:52] <Swagg> Oh no! http://i.imgur.com/jB4bAQ8.png
[05:52] <Vustom> I will just use CentOS as I found one for it instead :D
[05:52] <universal> histo: thats one vm inside a running OS but I'm thinking of a external VM with several OS running parallely
[05:53] <universal> side by side
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> Carson:  a full normal install beats wubi in many ways.. if you cant partion. id say use ubuntu in virtualbox.
[05:53] <Swagg> Any idea how to fix that Dr?
[05:53] <histo> universal: what?
[05:53] <gordonjcp> Vustom: no-one what?
[05:53] <universal> histo: is it possible ?
[05:53] <gordonjcp> !anyone | Vustom
[05:53] <histo> universal: whats the "external VM" going to run on?
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> Swagg:  not much to fix.. that ppa you have enabled is down or dead.. shouldent affect installing vbox
[05:53] <Carson> Dr_Willis what are the advantages?
[05:54] <universal> histo: thats what Im asking
[05:54] <universal> Dr_Willis: ??
[05:54] <Swagg> This error that I'm getting, http://i.imgur.com/jB4bAQ8.png
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> Carson:  its supported.. wubi stinks and breaks easially.. and it would be faster
[05:54] <Swagg> failed to fetch...etc etc.
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> Swagg:  not much to fix.. that ppa you have enabled is down or dead.. shouldent affect installing vbox
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> Swagg:  use a pastebin to paste text.. not screen shots. ;)
[05:55] <Carson> I also noticed my battery drained alot faster while using Ubuntu Wubi, is that just a Wubi thing, or just Ubuntu in all?
[05:55] <Swagg> Okay, I don't recall enabling the PPA though and it terminates the process as that error arises.
[05:55] <Carson> Dr_Willis: I also noticed my battery drained alot faster while using Ubuntu Wubi, is that just a Wubi thing, or just Ubuntu in all?
[05:56] <histo> universal: It needs to run on something so I don't understand your question
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> Carson:  windows drivers tend to be more optmized  as is windows os. so it dosent suck down as much power.
[05:57] <Carson> Dr_Willis, So will a partitioned Ubuntu save power? Or not?
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> histo:  what was that hypervisor stuff i recall it could run several os's at the same time.  ;)
[05:57] <universal_> histo: any msgs ? i got disconnected
[05:57] <histo> Dr_Willis: what? you can configure a linux system to use way less power
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> Carson:  depends on your drivers and hardware.
[05:57] <histo> universal_: yeah your question makes no sense
[05:58] <universal_> histo: lol...but any bootable VM ?
[05:58] <Carson> histo: How would I be able to do that?
[05:58] <xraixed> anyone have luck with installing tor on ubuntu 12.04 tbb
[05:58] <histo> Carson: install linux use powertop
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> havent tried powertop in some time. it had issues last i tried it. :) but that was like. ages ago.
[05:58] <histo> universal_: like vmware esx?
[05:59] <Swagg> Hey DR I've noticed raring isn't listed here http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=virtualbox-ose could that be why?
[05:59] <ptuladhar> xraixed: 'sudo apt-get install tor'
[05:59] <universal_> histo: i dont know about it...but if its what i'm asking then well and good
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> !info virtualbox-ose
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> !info virtualbox
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> Swagg:  the package name is 'virtualbox' it seems
[06:00] <xraixed> done that already and installed but trouble running it i get firefox message saying proxy server error
[06:00] <xmetal> usually i run vm of linux in windows
[06:00] <krez> leeeenux
[06:00] <xmetal> lol the other day for the first time i ran Linux in virtualbox IN lunux
[06:00] <xmetal> linux too :P
[06:00] <xmetal> (different distro's i mean)
[06:00] <ptuladhar> xraixed: 'sudo netstat -nptu', do you see port 9050 open?
[06:00] <Swagg> Dr, does any of this seem to help you help me? LOL http://pastebin.com/wav7eMxW
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> i keep a lubuntu install setup in vbox on windows all the time.
[06:01] <ptuladhar> xraixed: 'sudo netstat -nptul', do you see port 9050 open?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> Swagg:  what kernel are you using?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> Swagg:  this seems sort of clear ->  Please install the linux-headers-2.6.32-042stab078.22 package,
[06:01] <santhosh> hai  how to disable usb ports with there port id's in ubuntu
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> !headers
[06:02] <Swagg> Yes, I haven't been able to find that package do you know if it is available?
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> Swagg:  what does uname -a say abouyt your kernel?
[06:02] <Swagg> # uname -a
[06:02] <Swagg> Linux Skystreams 2.6.32-042stab078.22 #1 SMP Sat Jun 8 16:43:06 MSK 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:02] <santhosh>  hai  how to disable usb ports with there port id in ubuntu
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> Swagg:  and what ubuntu version are you using?
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> Swagg:  pastebin lsb_release -a
[06:03] <Swagg> http://pastebin.com/r0dJpVaB
[06:04] <xraixed> affirmative on port 9050
[06:04] <xraixed> is listening
[06:04] <histo> Swagg: 13.04 with a 2.6 kernel?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> Swagg:  so where did that kernel come from? Mine is named very differntly.  uname -a
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> Linux SSDBuntu 3.9.0-030900-generic
[06:04] <xmetal> @histro ... glad i am not the only one that noticed that
[06:05] <xmetal> lol
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  :)
[06:05] <santhosh>  hai  how to disable usb ports with there port id in ubuntu
[06:06] <ptuladhar> ok, then you can goto firefox network settings and set '127.0.0.1' port 9050 for SOCKS option. You should have tor running. Check it using. check.torproject.org
[06:06] <Swagg> Dr it was installed by default when I purchased my gnome server.
[06:06] <krez> anyone use arch
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> Swagg:  this is an actual physical machine you bought?
[06:07] <Ben64> krez: this is #ubuntu, i'm sure theres an arch channel
[06:07] <histo> krez: yes and all the people in #archlinux use it aswell
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> 'gnome server' seems. an odd term..
[06:07] <universal_> Dr_Willis: is it possible to disconnect and then reconnect this chat inside this same window ?
[06:08] <Swagg> No, it isn't physical.
[06:08] <Swagg> It's a dedicated server.
[06:08] <Ben64> Swagg: you'd need to use official ubuntu kernels and packages for support here
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> universal_:  with screen, or tmux, you can have a peristant shell in thebackground you can disconnect an connect to from other locations
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> Swagg:  so you are wanting to run  the GUI virtualbox on a NONgui server you are accessing remotely via how exactly?
[06:09] <xmetal> i may go play with grub + booting isos in a bit
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  thats always fun. make a custom grub entry to boot a rescue iso from your /boot/ to allow faster reinstalls. :) thats what i did
[06:09] <universal_> Dr_Willis: you mean like terminal irssi ? anyway to do it with webchat ?
[06:09] <Swagg> No, Dr_Willis I'm using Gnome desktop to connect via VNC and it has a gui and looks just like my Ubuntu Desktop. It was advertised as Operating System:
[06:10] <Swagg> Ubuntu + Gnome Desktop 13.04 64-Bit
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> universal_:  webchat = no..  use a real irc client. like weechat. :)
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> Swagg:  they have customized it in very weird ways it seems
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> !headers | Swagg
[06:10] <universal_> Dr_Willis: is irssi good enough...its the only client i'm familier with
[06:10] <xmetal> thats the idea ... i got grub to see the iso's though when i click the entry, the "grub menu" refreshes instead of booting anything :P .. i am still working on it
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> universal_:  i perfer weechat to irssi these days
[06:10] <xmetal> actualy to be honest i had the idea .. .buit haven't messed with it
[06:11] <Swagg> Yea, that command gives me some pretty crazy errors..I guess they disabled it or something.
[06:11] <Swagg> Well, thanks anyway.
[06:11] <alfreddba> what is the port number for bigblue button flash...pls help
[06:11] <histo> xmetal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[06:11] <santhosh>  hai  how to disable usb ports with there port id in ubuntu
[06:12] <xmetal> ty .. not only have that one bookmarked already ... have it saved for offline viewing ;)
[06:12] <xmetal> brb
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> that would be a 'cool' feature - if ubuntu put some sort of emergancy iso file in /boot/ and made a grub entry to it. :) for a system rescue/restore setup
[06:12] <histo> santhosh: what port id are you referring to and why?
[06:12] <universal_> Dr_Willis: hmm...ok and there is no entry in dconf for point computer to computer:/// rather than /
[06:13] <alfreddba> santhosh: http://itsfoss.com/how-to-disable-usb-ports-in-ubuntu/
[06:13] <santhosh> iam using "lsusb " command it getting some ids based on that id i want disable that ports it is possible
[06:14] <Ben64> santhosh: probably not
[06:14] <histo> santhosh: Why?
[06:15] <histo> santhosh: you could do something like echo suspend | sudo tee /sys/bus/usb/devices/XXXX/power/level
[06:15] <icelite> santhosh,  respond
[06:15] <histo> santhosh: and echo on | sudo tee /sys/bus/usb/devices/XXXX/power/level  to turn them back on
[06:17] <universal> Dr_Willis: I got disconnected....any ideas for that computer:/// and / thing
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> universal:  not really. Ive never noticed teh differance. #gnome may have an idea. it could be it was changed in the last gnome releases
[06:19] <universal> Dr_Willis: also in what format should text files be saved inorder to reatin colours and links ? txt files only save plain simple txt
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> universal:  err.. text files contain text.. thats all they can contain
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> universal:  use a word processor if you want formating saved.
[06:21] <universal> Dr_Willis: any other format or encoding for txt files ?
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> some text editors/viewers/ or terminal emulators can show links  and make them clickable
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> a txt file is pure text from my experience. :)
[06:22] <histo> universal: odf?
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> I rember BeOS having a way to keep extra formating/colors/stuff in text files. :) but they cheated and used the meta-data feature of their Filesystem for that.
[06:22] <xmetal> :O a txt file containing ... TEXT?
[06:22] <xmetal> NAWW
[06:23] <hylian> e17 gave me 4 sigsegv errors in 15 minutes, but it is somewhat better. I think they need a infusion of cach or devs on that project, it hasn't change much in the past 3-4 years.
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> hylian:  ;)
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> sounds like  the E ive played with for years.
[06:24] <hylian> Dr_Willis: I just came from e17 land. glad to be back at xfce, but I have to admit e17 is as fast as a whip when it isn't crashing, might even be on par with or even faster than openbox.
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> every so often i hear about  the E libs or stuff getting used in some project. but it just seems a constantly 'cool things are comming' sort of software
[06:24] <histo> i3 for me
[06:25] <hylian> Dr_Willis: I sadly have to concur. I check it out every so often.
[06:25] <universal> histo: odf is for word processors.....anything with txt files like wordpad on windows ?
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> I still am upset that the 'metisse' (spelling?) project never got popular.
[06:25] <histo> universal: What areyou trying to do with text files exactly?
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> universal:  wordpad is a word processor. not a text editor
[06:26] <histo> universal: most linux apps don't use file extension to identify which format a file is in.
[06:26] <universal> Dr_Willis: but wordpad doesn;t needs an office suite or word for working, its simple like txt editor
[06:26] <histo> universal: try abiword
[06:26] <histo> universal: or gedit
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> universal:  that dosent mean its a text editor. if you want a simple word processor - see abiword
[06:26] <hylian> universal: wordpad will add extra data to the file, and it won't be readily read by by other applications.. notepad in windows is the way to go,
[06:26] <universal> histo: ohh I didn't knew that..
[06:26] <xmetal> what is the point ?
[06:26] <xmetal> lol
[06:27] <histo> Who knows
[06:27] <hylian> I am a leafpad user myself. simple and fast.
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> I like Geany for my text editing needs. ;) or good old vim
[06:27] <xmetal> i have never install abi in linux though i have tried it in windows
[06:27] <xmetal> decent prog
[06:27] <xmetal> (not for basic text i mean .. .a little more advanced)
[06:27] <hylian> Dr_Willis: nice for programming, indeed.
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> flash backs to all the word processors ive used over the years.. and text editors..
[06:27] <histo> universal: http://alternativeto.net/  this site may help you.
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> ;P
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> I still miss 'cygnused' from my amiga at times..
[06:28] <universal> point is if i ask questions in here and save the solutions in txt files then afterwards its a hard work to find the exact lines with colours and links directed towards me
[06:28] <xmetal> i link to that site alot
[06:28] <gordonjcp> Dr_Willis: WordStar!
[06:28] <xmetal> (i think thats it)
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> universal:  depends on how the irc client logs them
[06:28] <xmetal> for those people who i am trying to get to try Linux
[06:28] <xmetal> :)
[06:28] <histo> universal: Perhaps a note taking program would be better like tomboy?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> universal:  less/more can display ansi color codes i think.
[06:28] <universal> histo: tomboy ?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> tomboy - :) thats a program that had such potential..
[06:29] <Aquaword> hi
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> universal:  or try a 'tiddlywiki' ;)
[06:29] <Aquaword> trying to install Guard on ubuntu get the following error: ERROR: Failed to build gem native extension.
[06:29] <Aquaword> any idea?
[06:29] <histo> !info guard
[06:29] <hylian> Dr_Willis: i think the problem with tomboy was that most of us geek heads have a text file named notes, and dump stuff there from time to time. I don't need a yellow sticky messing up my gui.
[06:30] <histo> universal: https://projects.gnome.org/tomboy/
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> hylian:  i liked/loved how it could sync to ubuntu one.. but then they sort of killed that feature. ;(
[06:30] <universal> hmm...tomboy / tiddlywiki
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> hylian:  thats what i used it mainly for.. notes i could get to from any pc.
[06:30] <josephf> Aquaword: I have had that error in the past and have needed to install ruby-dev (or equivalent) to be able to build gems
[06:30] <universal> Dr_Willis: #gnome seems like a sleeping channel
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> tiddlywiki on dropbox, or ubuntu one.. :) hmm...
[06:30] <hylian> Dr_Willis: didn't know it could do that, now that i like. sync your notes with your team, sounds like a smart idea to me.
[06:31] <Aquaword> josephf, thx checking
[06:31] <histo> universal: sudo apt-get install tomboy
[06:31] <universal> histo: ok
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> hylian:  yep. but the feature got dumped.  they really need to leverage U1 a lot more. it just dosent stand out compared to te other cloud services
[06:31] <histo> !manual | universal
[06:32] <universal> histo: how to direct computer in window manager from / to computer:///
[06:32] <histo> universal: What?
[06:32] <histo> can you rephrase that perhaps
[06:32] <universal> I'm opening computer:/// instead of /
[06:32] <universal> I mean...lol
[06:32] <histo> and the problem with that is?
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> in the nautilus file manager, 'computer' at the left side - directs to '/' instead of 'computer://
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> i think he is saying....
[06:33] <universal> yes Dr_Willis you are the man lol
[06:33] <hylian> well thanks for giving me ear, team. I need to sleep now, bye.
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> could be the gnome-devs have decided to change it. so its not changeable. ;)
[06:33] <universal> if nautilis is file manager then whats compiz ?
[06:33] <histo> universal: create a new place mark or whatever they are calling it in nautilus no adays
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> universal:  compiz is a window manager
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> !compiz
[06:34] <universal> !nautilis
[06:35] <universal> histo: how to create a place mark ?
[06:35] <Samul> hi all
[06:35] <histo> universal: ctrl+d  or i'm sure you could do it from the menu up top
[06:35] <histo> Samul: hola
[06:35] <Samul> how can I fully reset the unity graphic?
[06:36] <Samul> I tried with unity --reset but it doesn't work
[06:36] <universal> histo: you mean new bookmark ?
[06:36] <histo> Samul: which graphic?
[06:36] <histo> universal: yeah
[06:36] <Samul> the unity shell
[06:36] <histo> Samul: you could restart lightdm but that would log you out
[06:37] <Samul> I restarted it
[06:37] <Samul> changing console with alt + ctrl + f1
[06:37] <histo> Samul: then what is the issue?
[06:37] <Samul> but it wasn't changed
[06:37] <Samul> launcher size is the same that was before I restarted it
[06:38] <Samul> an user said me that I have to delete some directories
[06:38] <Samul> but I don't know what are
[06:38] <histo> Samul: unity --reset-icons
[06:38] <universal> histo: hmm..yea done
[06:38] <Samul> *which
[06:38]  * xmetal doesn't even try 
[06:38] <universal> histo: thnx
[06:38] <xmetal> lol
[06:38] <Samul> histo: could I do this from gnome terminal
[06:38] <Samul> or should I do it in an other console?
[06:39] <Samul> (alt + ctrl + f*)
[06:39] <histo> Samul: you could alt+F2 and do it
[06:39] <Samul> ok
[06:39] <histo> Samul: or from terminal it will reset your launcher bar
[06:40] <histo> Samul: any reason you don't just reduce the size like you increased it?
[06:40] <Samul> histo: I'd prefer to fully reset
[06:40] <Aquaword> josephf, thx worked.
[06:40] <dawkirst> Hi guys. I appear to be in a bit of a pickle, and I have no idea how to fix it. I have this problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/225848/ubuntu-12-10-installing-proprietary-nvidia-driver-causes-freeze-at-boot
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> i recall the askubuntu.com or omgubuntu, or webupd8 blog site having some good articals on 'resetting unity and compiz' back to defaults
[06:40] <histo> Samul: k then -icons should do the trick
[06:41] <Samul> I'm going to do as you said me, histo. thanks!
[06:41] <dawkirst> However, I also can't seem to get the keyboard to work. This gives me the idea that I should try to live boot and fix it from there. Any guidance would be much appreciated.
[06:42] <histo> dawkirst: That or you can use the sysrq key possibly http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> "Magic" :)
[06:44] <Samul> OK I'm going to reboot
[06:44] <Samul> bye all, at after
[06:45] <dawkirst> Thanks
[06:47] <panchisco> My packages are stuck and I have run out of ideas for how to fix it. This is my error while trying to do an apt-get upgrade
[06:48] <panchisco> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-server:
[06:48] <panchisco>  linux-server depends on linux-image-server (= 3.2.0.23.25); however:
[06:48] <panchisco>   Version of linux-image-server on system is 3.2.0.51.61.
[06:48] <panchisco> dpkg: error processing linux-server (--configure):
[06:48] <FloodBot1> panchisco: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:49] <panchisco> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5950196/
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> !info linux-server
[06:49] <jpds> panchisco: dist-upgrade instead?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> Err. Linux-server is just a meta-package.. that seems weird
[06:50] <panchisco> makes no difference with dist
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> id think you could remove 'linux-server' package and it wouldent affect much
[06:50] <panchisco> agh, ok, i removed the package and no it's fine
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> seems weird that a meta-package would break like that.
[06:51] <jpds> Looks like it's out of sync with the archive.
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> if its a 'transitional package' i wonder if its left over from an upgrade
[07:01] <Samul> Hi. I used the command unity --reset-icon but I see this output
[07:01] <Samul> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[07:01] <Samul> oops
[07:01] <Samul> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5950229/
[07:02] <Samul> what should I do?
[07:04] <histo> Samul: did the launcher reset?
[07:04] <Samul> no
[07:04] <histo> Samul: what version of ubuntu?
[07:04] <Samul> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5950229/ it seems not good
[07:04] <Samul> 12.04 LTS
[07:04] <Samul> yesterday, I tried to delete some directories
[07:05] <Samul> such as .compiz
[07:05] <Samul> and restarting lightdm
[07:05] <Samul> but now it doesn't work
[07:05] <histo> Samul: http://askubuntu.com/questions/162854/launcher-icons-invisible-still-work-in-12-04/162867#162867
[07:06] <Samul> oh
[07:06] <Samul> I don't have that problem
[07:07] <Samul> I already tried with those commands
[07:07] <Samul> both unity --reset and unity --reset-icon
[07:07] <Samul> I also rebooted
[07:07] <Shadow}}> I'm quite bored... What channels are there on freenode for chatting that are decently active this time period(s)?
[07:07] <DuncanNZ> When a file like a .jar is executed but does not have the executable flag set, a dialogue window appears informing you of this. However there is no option in that window to "I understand the risk, set the executable flag". I've just finished helping a friend who was trying to use minecraft but doesn't know how to use the terminal. Such a simple thing shouldn't require the terminal. Why is there no option in this dialogue window?
[07:08] <Samul> oops, I quit for error
[07:09] <Samul> so, I'm going to try some other things for reset unity
[07:09] <Samul> I hope it will work..
[07:09] <Samul> bye all
[07:09] <Shadow}}> Anyone? Perhaps a server/channel?
[07:10] <DuncanNZ> Sorry I got disconnected, if anyone just sent me a message please resend.
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> no one did DuncanNZ
[07:10] <Shadow}}> They have yet to. Yeah
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> right clicking and making it executable dosent require the terminal..
[07:11] <isword> DuncanNZ it's in the properties window.
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> then again some would argue the idea of running arbitary executables from any source is bad security.
[07:11] <DuncanNZ> Dr_Willis & isword: oh ok. Didn't realise.
[07:11] <DuncanNZ> It should be made clear from that dialogue window then
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> whats actually going on i think is theres a 'front end' app thats running then  launching the file as its setup.
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> windows .exe's do the same thing
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> in wine. its a front end thats doing the dialog.
[07:12] <Shadow}}> Okay...How bout a good song to listen to? Someone give me a break off their kitkat, I'm sitting in the dark here...I'm /that/ bored.
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> used to be there wasent even a dialog. :)
[07:12] <DuncanNZ> ok, well I guess the fact that it's possible to change it via GUI makes it acceptable, but I still think it's unclear
[07:13] <parapan> dear fellows, it is true that latest routers do not allow the magic packet to broadcasting address ???
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> requireing the user to specifically make the file executable i guess is a ok comprimize. the worse case would be it never asked.. and let the user run just anything.. that would lead to potential malware attacks
[07:13] <Shadow}}> Dr_Willis; Is there a bot command for listing the bot's commands?
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> a .jar file im not sure is technically an executable. :) at least not in the linux sence. the front end is just launching it as needed
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> !brain
[07:14] <wilee-nilee> Shadow}}, I'm a jazz musician, here is something I listen to often, one of the worlds best drummers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xql3l9UmEqw
[07:14] <Shadow}}> Oo, Thank ya. Both of you.
[07:14] <wilee-nilee> he is on both sides of the beat and every where in between a Native from India
[07:15] <theadmin> What might cause a launcher (.desktop file) that works from Nautilus not work from Dash?
[07:15] <Shadow}}> Nice wilee. Dr_Willis; Which url am I searching for, factoids or the usage info?
[07:15] <isword> Is it showing any errors or just not working at all?
[07:16] <isword> @theadmin
[07:16] <theadmin> isword: Well, thing is, it doesn't even display properly. It doesn't display the name, etc, just a... box-like icon
[07:16] <wilee-nilee> Shadow}}, I just generally start with google.
[07:16] <Shadow}}> Eh, Nvm. I'ma just dig through both of em.
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> Shadow}}:  no idea. :) i never look at them
[07:17] <parapan> dear fellows, it is true that latest routers do not allow the magic packet to broadcasting address ???
[07:18]  * Dr_Willis wonders what this 'magic' does..
[07:18] <isword> theadmin what did you use to create the launcher?
[07:19] <Shadow}}> Same Dr_Willis
[07:19] <theadmin> isword: It was generated by Wine... Although others of the same manner (their code looks pretty much exactly the same apart from "Name" and "Exec" fields, basically) work just fine
[07:20] <isword> Does the name have any special chars?
[07:20] <Shadow}}> ...Grr, This lists commands for OPs and the bot /owners/. Hmm... It must have a command list command some where via msg...
[07:21] <theadmin> isword: Nope, just a single word, all ASCII too.
[07:21] <Shadow}}> I wonder...
[07:21] <Shadow}}> !help
[07:22] <theadmin> !ubottu | Shadow}}
[07:22] <Shadow}}> Well...Thats not exactly helpful...Ironic.....But not helpful...
[07:22] <jose> Shadow}}: if you want to test, do it via PM
[07:22] <Shadow}}> I presumed it didn't allow PMs, Thanks for telling me though.
[07:23] <Samul> guys... I'm getting crazy. I tried lots of things, but I cannot reset unity
[07:23] <Samul> why this?!
[07:23] <jose> Samul: define reset unity
[07:23] <Samul> return it at default
[07:23] <Samul> as just installed
[07:23] <theadmin> Samul: Reset all the Unity settings? Easy enough: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ (or, on versions below 12.10, "unity --reset" can also do the trick)
[07:24] <Samul> unity --reset doesn't work
[07:24] <theadmin> Samul: Then use the first one.
[07:24] <Samul> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5950229/
[07:24] <Samul> this is the output
[07:24] <Samul> I'm going to try the first one
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> try making a new user.. see if it works for them..  if a new user does NOT work properly.. well theres some deeper issues going on
[07:24] <Samul> should I do this in a terminal alt + ctrl è f*?
[07:24] <Samul> or could I do this in a gnome terminal?
[07:25] <theadmin> Samul: No, in a gnome terminal, but your problem isn't with Unity, it's with your video drivers
[07:25] <Samul> what
[07:25] <theadmin> Samul: Extension GLX missing... yeah
[07:25] <Samul> yep
[07:25] <Samul> but there is a problem
[07:25] <Samul> yesterday... I reset unity
[07:26] <Samul> but today..
[07:26] <Samul> it's back as wass yesterday
[07:26] <Samul> *was
[07:26] <Samul> how can I fix the problem with viedo drivers?
[07:26] <jose> !enter | Samul
[07:26] <Shadow}}> Sheesh my brain has rusted since I used IRC so long ago... Simply because this list had no ! prefixes I assumed they weren't commands... -_-
[07:26] <Samul> sorry
[07:27] <Samul> anyway, how can I fix the problem with video drivers?
[07:27] <Shadow}}> You'd think I'd of known better considering I lost my channel for bot abuse... O-e
[07:28] <Ben64> Samul: whats the actual problem? please describe it using one line, not 20
[07:28] <Samul> you saw the output? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5950229/
[07:29] <Samul> I have some problems with video drivers, maybe because I have a double GPU (intel + nVidia)
[07:29] <Ben64> oh
[07:30] <Ben64> you'll need something like bumblebee
[07:30] <Samul> Ben64: and it will fix this problem?
[07:30] <Ben64> theoretically, yes. http://bumblebee-project.org/
[07:30] <Samul> but I already have bumblebee
[07:30] <Shadow}}> wilee-nilee; Got another song?
[07:31] <fulange> hey everyone... you may not believe this, but I have a question!
[07:31] <Samul> I put the commande dconf reset -f /org/compiz/  now what do I have to do?
[07:32] <Shadow}}> fulange; Trust me, If I said I didn't have any questions no one would believe it.
[07:32] <wilee-nilee> Shadow}}, I was already warned on off topic today I'm gonna laylow. ;)
[07:32] <fulange> I have an Intel processor, am running windows 7, and am about to switch to ubuntu.  I could only seem to get the amd download from the main ubuntu website, will this still work?
[07:32] <Samul> fulange: you have to mount che ISO
[07:32] <bazhang> !ot | Shadow}}
[07:33] <Shadow}}> Well I asked for a channel more appropriate  for myself... No one replied. D:
[07:33] <fulange> samul:  so the amd iso will still work on an intel pc?
[07:33] <bazhang> Shadow}}, please take the chit chat elsewhere
[07:33] <wilee-nilee> Shadow}}, #ubuntu-offtopic is the redirect often.
[07:33] <Samul> that do you mean with "Amd"?
[07:33] <Ben64> fulange: amd64 isn't for amd only, its for 64bit only
[07:33] <Samul> lol
[07:33] <Shadow}}> Will do, Ah thank ya wilee-nilee.
[07:33] <fulange> aha, perfect!  thanks
[07:33] <Samul> np
[07:34] <Samul> so can someone help me?
[07:34] <fulange> yall have a good night (or day, as the case may be)
[07:37] <daya> Hello, I am follwing d-i partman/mount_style select uuid for preseeding file in ubuntu, but after successful installation ; mount / 336 terminated with status /32 cames any idea?
[07:38] <daya> https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/PartitionProfiles
[07:41] <Shadow}}> Where can I check to see if Xubuntu is using my radeon graphics card?
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> you mean using the fglrx drivers?
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> or the ati/radeon drivers?
[07:42] <Shadow}}> ..I suppose, Just curious if it using it/them.
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> ati has a control center tool  that gives info about the card. If you are nt using the fglrx drivers then i think it will say so.
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> or run the addational-drivers tool and see what driver it says you are using
[07:44] <effbiai> is there any where do download ubuntu for android source code? is it released for a phone, or is ubuntu edge the first phone to get it?
[07:44] <somsip> !phone | effbiai
[07:44] <effbiai> not asking about the ubuntu touch
[07:44] <leemeng0x61> how to stop send a sms
[07:44] <Shadow}}> Dr_Willis; Could you elaborate more on that?
[07:44] <effbiai> ubuntu touch != ubuntu for android
[07:44] <aneks> does anyone know why bind9 would complain about $TTL? /etc/bind/igor.local.zone:1: unknown option '$TTL'
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> Touch is the OS for the phone - unless you are refering to those 'run ubuntu in a vm/emu on android - from the android market'
[07:45] <leemeng0x61> how to forbid user send a sms
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> Shadow}}:  on what part? either you are using the Fglrx driver from ati/amd.. or you are using the open sourced driver. (ati/radeon)
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> leemeng0x61:  how is the user sending an sms?
[07:46] <Shadow}}> Dr_Willis; Yes but what do I go to in order to check? (New)
[07:46] <effbiai> Dr_Willis: reffering to this. http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> effbiai:  as far as i know. the ubuntu for the cellphones is now called the ubuntu-touch   as far as i know its not 'on android' its running on devices that can also run android. (but theres the phone/touch channels that would be better to ask)
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> its all very much 'in development' so what products we actually see,, well.. we will have to wait and see.
[07:48] <effbiai> Dr_Willis: ok, thanks
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> i will belive they exist.. when i can actually go buy one.
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[07:50] <parapan> dear fellows, it is true that latest routers do not allow the magic packet to broadcasting address ???
[07:51] <Shadow}}> Where can I check what drivers are in use?..
[07:51] <bazhang> !ot | parapan
[07:51] <effbiai> Dr_Willis: hehe
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> Shadow}}:  the 'addational drivers' tool/tab.
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> parapan:  i think that no one knows what you are talking about.
[07:52] <parapan> bazhang: thank you .....
[07:52] <bazhang> parapan, ##hardware
[07:53] <parapan> Dr_Willis: I try to use wake on lan tool to start a PC at home; it seems that the magic packet is not forwarded by the router to the broadcasting address of the network ......without this forwarding, the magic packet do not reach the eth0 of the intended PC
[07:53] <Shadow}}> Dr_Willis; I searched for that...No returns.
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> Shadow}}:  what release of ubuntu are you using?
[07:55] <llutz> parapan: since theres more than one firmware routers are using, you should specify what firmware you're talking about. but it's still offtopic here
[07:55] <Shadow}}> Xubuntu 13.04 i386
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> Shadow}}:  Shadow}}  13.04 has a 'addational drivers' tab under the 'software-sources' tool (last tab i belive)
[07:56] <leemeng0x61> Dr_Willis, like forbid to read a message
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> under the 'software center' menus - theres a software sources, item..
[07:57] <parapan> llutz: Ok you are correct, it is offtopic . . . just trying to determine if this is a general issue of the routers - problem is I'm using a Planet router WDRT-731U and I cannot find support for it ...
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> leemeng0x61:  i think you need to give the channel a lot more info as to what you are doing, and want to do.
[07:57] <leemeng0x61> Dr_Willis, is there some broadcast to use
[07:59] <Shadow}}> Dr_Willis; Where are these /tabs/ located? ...
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> Shadow}}:  softwre sources tool has a row of tabs across the top like 1000's of other apps do..
[07:59] <Shadow}}> I can't find any tabs in general... I have a drop bar menu...Nothing of the sort in it...
[08:00] <leemeng0x61> Dr_Willis, i mean forbid user to send a message when user click the send message button
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> run   software-properties-gtk , last tab
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> leemeng0x61:  send message in WHAT program?
[08:00] <leemeng0x61> Dr_Willis, sorry worry channal
[08:01] <leemeng0x61> wrong channal
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> 0_o
[08:01] <georgepappap> hi all!
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> Moo!
[08:02] <Shadow}}> Dr_Willis; Thank you kindly.
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> Shadow}}:  now you see the tabs? ;)
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> this is why this suppot channel gives out cli commands.. easier then describing GUI thinggies-to-do-find.
[08:03] <Shadow}}> Dr_Willis; Indeed I do... I just wasn't following you...What so ever.
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> I cant even vocalize some of the 'gestures/actions' that need to be done on android to people over the phone. ;)
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> I hope ubuntu touch dosent go that extreme
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> Shadow}}:  so.. what drivers are you using? ;)
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> if your system can use the fglrx drivers that addational-drivers tab would let you install them
[08:06] <Shadow}}> Under Additional drivers Dr_Willis?
[08:07] <ns-nazri> server localhost
[08:08] <histo> Shadow}}: yes
[08:09] <Shadow}}> None are listed....
[08:09] <Shadow}}> Was I supposed to run in sudo?
[08:10] <histo> Shadow}}: what type of video card? lspci  can lend some insight
[08:10] <Shadow}}> Well, I don't know the exacts. Its a Radeon...
[08:11] <histo> Shadow}}: lspci | grep VGA
[08:12] <Shadow}}> histo; type that into terminal as you stated? with or without sudo?
[08:12] <histo> Shadow}}: yes, no sudo necessary
[08:14] <babinlonston> histo: How can i set some message While logging into ssh
[08:14] <Shadow}}> VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV610 [Radeon HD 2400 PRO] Does this mean its using the card?
[08:14] <histo> babinlonston: what do you mean?
[08:15] <histo> Shadow}}: that's the video card in your system.
[08:15] <histo> !ati | Shadow}}
[08:15] <DJones> babinlonston: Sounds like you need to amend the motd http://askubuntu.com/questions/23246/how-do-i-edit-the-ssh-motd
[08:15] <babinlonston> if im trying to login into 192.168.1.15 , i want to show some NOTICE TO USERS
[08:15] <babinlonston> This computer system is the private property of its owner, whether
[08:15] <babinlonston> individual, corporate or government.  It is for authorized use only.
[08:15] <babinlonston> Users (authorized or unauthorized) have no explicit or implicit
[08:15] <babinlonston> expectation of privacy.
[08:15] <FloodBot1> babinlonston: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:15] <henn> Does anyone know how I get the default Ubuntu login screen back?
[08:15] <histo> babinlonston: motd
[08:15] <henn> for 13.04
[08:16] <henn> I've seem to have messed it up
[08:17] <histo> henn: What is messed up about it?
[08:18] <henn> histo: i put repos of another debian based OS in my sources.list. when i updated all i get when I boot is a command line prompt to login that isnt ubuntu
[08:18] <henn> if that makes any sense
[08:18] <babinlonston> histo: will this show before loging in ?
[08:18] <Shadow}}> histo; How do I find out what type of system I am using? Is it Desktop Graphics?
[08:19] <histo> henn: that's why you don't put other repos in your sources.list   which ones did you add?
[08:19] <bibi23> hi, I had a lot of pain installing ubuntu 12.04 side to side with windows on my recent laptot, because of all the UEFI and fastboot stuff, now windows is run by default and the only way I can go to the grub screen is when I have my Live USB key put in when I boot, do you think this will be fixed if I install ubuntu 13.04?
[08:19] <histo> babinlonston: No shows after they successfully login
[08:20] <babinlonston> i need to set it before login .. i did it in one server and i forgot it ...
[08:20] <histo> !uefi | bibi23 It should work now if you install/configure it properly
[08:20] <henn> histo: ones from kali linux. i only needed it for one thing but I forgot to remove them! :\
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> gotta love pointless messages befor or after you login. ;)
[08:20] <ezra-s> ^^
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> befor you login. that would be a feature of mgetty/getty wouldent it?
[08:21] <Shadow}}> I refer back to my previous question^
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> after you login - it would be part of the MOTD stuff
[08:21] <histo> babinlonston: create a ssh banner http://www.review-ninja.com/2009/05/login-banner-ssh-banner-howto.html
[08:22] <histo> !ppapurge | henn
[08:22] <bibi23> histo: I've read this a few times before re installing, also disabling secure boot, running boot repair and so, no success
[08:22] <babinlonston> histo:  yes got it thanks a lot
[08:22] <histo> bibi23: it's not that complicated once you understand it. Disable secure boot and fast boot. Install ubuntu and grub2
[08:23] <histo> Dr_Willis: sshd has a banner option
[08:23] <henn> histo: thanks
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> what if its a local console?  :)
[08:23] <histo> Dr_Willis: then no banner
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> still i find such messges amuseing.  some pcs at work now show a similer dialog.
[08:23] <histo> Dr_Willis: then they'd have to use getting or whatever
[08:24] <histo> damn attorneys
[08:24] <Vustom> How can I check what the remoteip and localip is of my VPS via Ubuntu SSH?
[08:24] <Shadow}}> Seriously..What type of system am I using? I cannot proceed into installing my ATI driver(s) until I know...
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> Shadow}}:  lspci should show what video chipset you got.
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> Shadow}}:  its possible that the fglrx drivers from amd/ati no longer support your card. and you have to use the open sourced drivers
[08:25] <histo> Vustom: ifconfig for local ip. curl checkip.dyndns.org for remote
[08:25] <Vustom> Is the inet addr my localip?
[08:26] <Vustom> Under Ethernet..
[08:26] <Shadow}}> The AMD wesbite is asking for my system info... Is it Desktop Graphics? I'm on a desktop, I seriously don't understand its question... Intergrated mother board graphics? Which is it?...
[08:26] <alfreddba> how to set mail server in monit...pls guide me some example
[08:26] <bibi23> histo: are you sure switching to 13.04 won't help? on the page you linked it states "Support for UEFI SecureBoot appeared in 12.10 and 12.04.2. ", maybe it was not fully supported yet?
[08:26] <histo> Vustom: or you could use ip addr
[08:27] <Shadow}}> I put the card in myself, So...
[08:27] <histo> bibi23: it could have been if you tried a really old version
[08:28] <histo> Shadow}}: yes it's desktop graphics
[08:28] <Shadow}}> histo; Thank you!! Sheesh I was losing my mind over it.
[08:28] <bibi23> histo: ok last question, and if I install ubuntu on the whole hard drive and not side to side with windows, will it be easier or is it the same issue and maybe I won't be able to run the os at all?
[08:29] <Faraz> I have exactly the same problem as this guy : http://askubuntu.com/questions/309828/kernel-panic-json-object-array-length
[08:29] <Faraz> I searched everywhere but did not found how to solve it. any idea ?
[08:29] <histo> bibi23: easier in what sense?
[08:29] <Vustom> So if it's x.x.x.x/x, when setting up PPTP would I use this as local ip? localip x.x.x.x-x?
[08:30] <Vustom> Trying to set up a PPTP VPN connection on my VPS but I am confused. :(
[08:30] <Shadow}}> histo; Should I tell it to auto-detect & install, Or tell it its a
[08:30] <histo> Faraz: did you just install a json-c library as well?
[08:30] <bibi23> histo: easier to set it up than a side to side install with grub on a UEFI computer
[08:30] <histo> Shadow}}: I would follow the directions on the ubottu page
[08:30] <SDr> | Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for file /root/.ssh/authorized_keys
[08:31] <SDr> ^^ -I'd like to make a note here for future prosperity: This Line Is Not Cool. I will not get my last 8 hours back
[08:31] <histo> bibi23: Either way should work.
[08:31] <Faraz> histo: yes !
[08:31] <histo> SDr: ls -l /root/.ssh/authorized_keys
[08:31] <Shadow}}> histo;  Just curious if I should tell the AMD website to auto, or tell it its a HD 2xxx series. I am following their instructions...Have to do this first.
[08:31] <SDr> histo, yes, if you know what to look for.
[08:31] <histo> Faraz: boot to recovery mode and remove the library
[08:32] <al_nz1> whats a another way other than scp to copy between linux boxes on a lan?
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> seems a rather clear erroor message to me.
[08:32] <histo> al_nz1: mount remote file system and copy file
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> al_nz1:  nfs, ftp, samba, netcat
[08:32] <histo> al_nz1: or use netcat there are many ways
[08:32] <histo> Shadow}}: I would specify your card since you know what it is
[08:32] <al_nz1> histo: so I can just mount a directory?
[08:32] <Faraz> histo: recovery mode also doesn't work.
[08:33] <histo> al_nz1: if you have some service running a share yes
[08:33] <henn> histo: how do I figure out exactly what ppa it is? sorry for bugging you
[08:33] <al_nz1> I want to test a copy over nfs (i guess) vs scp
[08:33] <histo> Faraz: boot to an install cd and chroot and uninstall
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> al_nz1:  nfs would be faster , but would take more work to setup.
[08:33] <al_nz1> Dr_Willis: ok will look into how to do it with nfs
[08:34] <histo> al_nz1: what's wrong with scp?
[08:34] <al_nz1> I want to benchmark - scp seems very slow
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> al_nz1:  what/how much are you moving about the network?
[08:34] <al_nz1> a shitload
[08:34] <tamiya_> hey guys
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> scp is encrypted. so it will be slower.
[08:34] <al_nz1> on gigabit I am only getting about 2-3 Mb/s
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> nfs would be for local lan only, not over the internet, and it also has  to be setup correctly, not 'on the fly'
[08:34] <histo> al_nz1: is it a bunch of small files?
[08:34] <Faraz> histo: thanks. but i'm sorry i don't know how. I installed it from source cause i wanted to try this : https://github.com/phalcon/zephir
[08:34] <tamiya_> some ppl yesterday said I shouldn't be using the Radeon drivers downloaded from AMD's website. How do I uninstall them?
[08:34] <al_nz1> histo: a bit of both
[08:34] <henn> !ppa | henn
[08:34] <histo> Faraz: then you'd have to delete the files the source installer installed
[08:35] <henn> !ppa-purge | henn
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> tamiya_:  if you used the .run tool to install them.. use it to Uninstall them.
[08:35] <tamiya_> where does it get installed to?
[08:35]  * histo thinks the uninstall will break your system though.
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> tamiya_:  all over the place. :)
[08:36] <Shadow}}> Wait wait wait, Xubuntu mentioned the catalyst driver elsewhere also it lists my card in audio settings as usable anyhow, So why is it the software thing listed NO additional drivers?
[08:36] <histo> al_nz1: if it's a ton of small files that will choke your network down.
[08:36] <Vustom> Do I replace 192.168.0.0 with my localip or remoteip and do I keep /24 at the end? - http://paste.pm/8mi.js
[08:36] <al_nz1> how do I list my current nfs shared fodlers?
[08:36] <histo> Shadow}}: what driver are you currently using?
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> Shadow}}:  audio? addatigonal-drivers tool is normally for video and wireless card drivers.
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> !nfs
[08:37] <histo> Vustom: what are you trying to do?
[08:37] <Vustom> histo:
[08:37] <Vustom> http://hanumax.blogspot.com.au/2013/07/setup-pptp-server-on-ubuntu-124-server.html
[08:37] <tamiya_> i just did a search for all files named Uninst*.sh and uninst*.sh
[08:37] <tamiya_> found nothing
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> tamiya_:  how did you install the drivers?
[08:38] <Shadow}}> 01:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV610 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 2350/2400 Series] <-- This...
[08:38] <tamiya_> don't remember
[08:38] <Vustom> histo: I'm up to the last part.
[08:38] <histo> Vustom: and this is a remote ubuntu server?
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> tamiya_:  if you used the whatever.run command to install them.. thenit should have an uninstall option.
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> Shadow}}:  thats the audio going to your monitor over the hdmi cable.
[08:39] <llutz> Vustom: you don't want to use pptp nowadays, its pretty unsecure. use openvpn
[08:39] <Vustom> histo: It's hosted on my VPS, so yeah.
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> Shadow}}:  not all  of those are supported.
[08:39] <histo> Vustom: You need to do some more reading so you understand what you are doing.
[08:39] <Vustom> :c
[08:39] <Shadow}}> ...I'm going to lose my mind, Fine... I'll download the catalyst driver and continue the instructions for installation...
[08:39] <tamiya_> anyone know?
[08:40] <Vustom> What am I doing wrong?
[08:40] <histo> Vustom: it's not the remoteip of your server it's the client's ip
[08:41] <histo> Vustom: and why you would be setting up pptp in the first place is beyond me
[08:41] <rajat> hey
[08:41] <histo> Shadow}}: lspci -k   will show you which driver is in use for each of your devices
[08:41] <rajat> hey
[08:41] <Vustom> I am newbie.
[08:41] <histo> Vustom: Okay then why do you feel you need pptp?
[08:41] <Shadow}}> histo; -Sighs- Thank you...
[08:41] <rajat> anyone can show Me /etc/apt/sources.list as I lost my own
[08:42] <Vustom> I just want to create a VPN on my VPS, which will work with iOS.
[08:42] <Vustom> iOS doesn't have an option for OpenVPN I don't think..
[08:42] <Shadow}}> histo; So these listed are IN USE?
[08:42] <llutz> Vustom: there is openvpn-connect for ios
[08:43] <Vustom> Could you help me setup OpenVPN on my VPS then? :)
[08:43] <histo> Wasn't pptp hacked?
[08:43] <k1l> rajat: its good to have made a backup if you fiddle with systemfiles.
[08:43] <k1l> rajat: but here is a generator: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[08:43] <llutz> histo: it was
[08:43] <histo> Shadow}}: it will tell you which kernel module is in use yes.
[08:44] <blueonyx> ls -l /
[08:44] <blueonyx> err, hi
[08:44] <al_nz1> hmmm, so I mounted a share for nfs - but it wont let me copy because it says I have no permission to create dirs on the remote share?
[08:45] <Shadow}}> histo; It says on my video : in use: radeon <-- So... Its working, No?
[08:45] <al_nz1> even tho I think on the remote system I do?
[08:45] <al_nz1> How do I check?>
[08:45] <histo> Shadow}}: you are using the open source radeon driver currently
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> al_nz1:  on the server, you need to setup how it maps permissions and what it allows people to do with what shares.
[08:45] <llutz> al_nz1: make sure you sync your uids/users on all hosts when using nfs, makes it much easier
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> oh yea.. :) users id differning can be a pain. ;)
[08:46] <al_nz1> llutz: yeah the server is a QNAP NAS - running busybox - not sure where the nfs settings file will be
[08:46] <al_nz1> but in the web gui it is set to allow RW for *
[08:46] <histo> Vustom: Is there a reason you are trying to get your IOS device on a vpn with your VPS?
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> i always add my users in teh same order on all machines. so they are always the same.
[08:46] <rajat> thanx benchod
[08:47] <llutz> histo: aren't prism, tempora etc reason enough?
[08:47] <Shadow}}> ...Ya know, Its simply not worth it. This monitor sucks anyhow... Not worth melting what little brain I have left just to find out if its using the card or not... And what am I even talking about, It must be or I wouldn't have a display right now.. -Mumbles-
[08:47] <histo> Shadow}}: What is the problem you are trying to fix?
[08:47] <Vustom> histo: Yeah, for when I go to public Wi-Fi's etc, or want to watch Netflix outside of the US..
[08:47] <al_nz1> llutz: would changing the owner on the target foolder to nobody fix the error?
[08:48] <Vustom> I have the server. May as well use it rather than paying more money for one already setup by someone else?
[08:48] <histo> Vustom: I'd look at openvpn as pptp has been exploited
[08:48] <gordonjcp> Vustom: pptp isn't very good
[08:48] <Shadow}}> histo; I just...want to go to some sort of graphics settings like the audio settings... Thats all... ;-;
[08:48] <tamiya_> ok, i just got rid of the Radeon drivers
[08:48] <gordonjcp> Vustom: there's an excellent howto on the wiki though
[08:48] <Vustom> http://programster.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/ubuntu-1204-set-up-openvpn-server.html
[08:48] <Vustom> Will that do?
[08:49] <histo> Vustom: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[08:49] <tamiya_> What is the correct way to install drivers for my Radeon 5850 on Ubuntun 12.04LTS so I can play L4D2 on Steam without it shitting itself and the desktop Unity panel going missing 50% of the time?
[08:49] <Vustom> The one I posted is noob friendly.
[08:49] <Vustom> :(
[08:49] <Shadow}}> But if the monitor is displaying than it must be using the card properly considering the monitor is connected straight into the card.. Right?... -_-'
[08:50] <Vustom> It even has pictures!
[08:50] <gordonjcp> Vustom: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PPTPServer
[08:50] <surt> Hello, I just went from a single 1920x1080 monitor to 2x2560x1440 monitors and I can't see anything...can anyone help me reset the graphic settings because livecds work fine...
[08:50] <gordonjcp> Vustom: ^ use that
[08:50] <surt> I have terminal access for the time being.
[08:50] <llutz> Vustom: better to use the official ubuntu-documentation if you want support here.
[08:51] <Vustom> gordonjcp: I'm up to the last part on that.. I don't know what IP to replace the existing one with..
[08:51] <angel> sjaf
[08:51] <histo> Is there a reason Shadow}} can't just sudo apt-get install fglrx  ??? I'm not that up-to-date with ATI drivers and how they work.
[08:51] <gordonjcp> Vustom: doesn't matter as long as it's all the same
[08:51] <Shadow}}> histo; Yeah theres a reason, Cause no one said to do it. ._.
[08:51] <Vustom> I think I put the wrong IP as remoteip
[08:51] <Vustom> :/
[08:52] <gordonjcp> Vustom: 192.168.0.x is probably a bad idea
[08:52] <histo> gordonjcp: that's what he's following essentially but doesn't understand the ip address range in the remoteip being the client's ip's etc...
[08:52] <gordonjcp> Vustom: where it says 192.168.0.whatever, pick something else
[08:52] <gordonjcp> Vustom: I use 192.168.29.x
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> if the 'addational-drivers' tool dosent show the fglrx drivers available for your card. well..  just installing them via apt-get may or may not work. (i dont use ati any more, so no idea what cards work and what dont these days)
[08:53] <gordonjcp> Vustom: 29 has no particular significance.  Like all my network numbering, I chose it by rolling 3d20
[08:53] <Shadow}}> will be installed: dkms fakeroot fglrx-amdcccle <-- Yes?... >->
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> Shadow}}:  the open sourced drivers work well for a great many people in many cases
[08:54] <Vustom> So for localip I should use 192.168.29.1 and for remoteip 192.168.29.100-200 for example?
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> Shadow}}:  go for it. if you want to try the fglrx drivers.
[08:54] <histo> Shadow}}: Yeah why not
[08:54] <Shadow}}> Well not like it'll hurt, I need to know all this for when I set-up my main HDD as Xubuntu.
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> of course if the open sourced drivers are working.. why are you needing the fglrx? ;)
[08:55] <Shadow}}> Because, I don't know if they are working to the fullest extent being an HD 2400 PRO.
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> normally on your first bootup. there will be a dialog mentioning the fglrx/additional-drivers tool
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> are you doing anything thats needing that much video powar? ;)  well fan controll is one reason many peoplke use the fglrx I guess.
[08:56] <surt> Hello, I just went from a single 1920x1080 monitor to 2x2560x1440 monitors and I can't see anything...can anyone help me reset the graphic settings because livecds work fine...I have tty access for the time being!
[08:56] <Shadow}}> There ya go, This card burns my tower as is... If these drivers will control the fan better thats all the reasoning I need to try. Dr_Willis. lol..
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> surt:  see if you got a /etc/X11/xorg.conf and if so rename it to some backup name. perhaps.
[08:57] <surt> Dr_Willis: Yeah I figured I would try but no such file. Weird...something must have changed since in ubuntu recently.
[08:57] <histo> !xrandr | surt
[08:57] <Vustom> How do I find my client IP?
[08:58] <Shadow}}> histo; Before I hit yes and install these, I need to know will it automatically switch to the driver upon next boot? Or?
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> Shadow}}:  it should
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> you will have to reboot for them to get in use.
[08:58] <surt> Vustom: curl --retry 4 "ifconfig.me"
[08:58] <Shadow}}> Very well, Thank you both... I'd of gone crazy trying to use AMD's site crap...
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> its weird that the additional-d4riers tool dident mention them. perhaps the card is just a bit too new for it.
[08:59] <histo> Shadow}}: it should if not you will have to boot to recovery mode to remove the fglrx crap
[08:59] <surt> Vustom: Bad advice, sorry, used to work.
[08:59] <Vustom> It works.
[08:59] <Vustom> Just takes a minute.
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> all you would do at the ati site was download their .run package and run it.. i thought. ;P
[08:59] <Shadow}}> histo; Glad you mentioned that, So if it does go down that way I know where to go. o_e
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> !ati
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> Matrox.. Hmm.  do they even still exist. ;P
[09:00] <surt> histo: Does it matter that I'm using proprietary drivers? Is xrandr still relevant?
[09:01] <Vustom> If the VPS remoteip and localip are: http://paste.pm/8mj.js what IP should I use in replace of this IP: http://paste.pm/8mi.js?
[09:01] <histo> Dr_Willis: unfortunately yes
[09:01] <histo> surt: no... yes...
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> histo:  :) havent seen anyone in here with one in like.. forever.. (if ever)
[09:01] <surt> histo: thanks...
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> night all...
[09:01] <newuser> Hi can you help please? I run Ubuntu Live USB and there don't installed wi fi support. And i don't have wire internet. What should do?  ;)
[09:02] <histo> Dr_Willis: I've seen them in medical equipment like MRI's etc... to display to some gawd awefull old industrial LCD
[09:02] <histo> newuser: What chipset?
[09:02] <gordonjcp> Vustom: yes, that'll work
[09:02] <Vustom> That doesn't answer my question -.-
[09:02] <newuser> Chipset? what is it? I'm new to Ubuntu
[09:03] <Vustom> Oh, you were replying from before :D
[09:03] <gordonjcp> Vustom: what's that bollocks in your first paste, with random numbers for the remote and local IPs?
[09:04] <Vustom> localip is ip from ipaddr, remoteip is from curl --retry 4 "ifconfig.me"
[09:04] <gbence> newuser: what wifi device do u have?
[09:04] <gordonjcp> Vustom: why the hell would you do that?
[09:04] <Vustom> I am doing this wrong aren't I..
[09:04] <gordonjcp> Vustom: the instructions are right there
[09:04] <Vustom> < noob
[09:04] <histo> newuser: lspci | grep Network
[09:04] <gordonjcp> Vustom: that needs to be a local address
[09:04] <Vustom> but
[09:04] <newuser> gbence I have wifi adapter netgear (i have desktop PC)
[09:04] <surt> histo: Can I just reset all gfx settings to default values somehow? Remove config files?
[09:05] <gordonjcp> Vustom: you are effectively setting up a LAN between the two machines
[09:05] <Vustom> :(
[09:05] <Vustom> You choose the numbers then?
[09:05] <histo> surt: It is default there is no xorg.conf
[09:05] <gordonjcp> Vustom: the fact that you are using a bit of clever software is irrelevant
[09:05] <gbence> newuser: do u see this device at lsusb?
[09:05] <newuser> histo I must run it in Terminal?
[09:05] <histo> surt: X is setting them automagically for you.  So you need to use xrandr or whatever to configure your dual screen if you are having problems
[09:05] <histo> newuser: yes
[09:05] <gordonjcp> Vustom: okay, you want something like localip 192.168.55.1 and remoteip 192.168.55.100-200
[09:05] <surt> histo: the computer I'm using right now has no xorg.conf...
[09:05] <histo> newuser: just copy and paste it
[09:06] <gordonjcp> Vustom: and in the iptables line obviously 192.168.55
[09:06] <newuser> histo Thanks
[09:06] <gordonjcp> Vustom: so 192.168.55.0/24
[09:06] <Vustom> 192.168.55/24, or 192.168.55.0/24?
[09:06] <gordonjcp> Vustom: got it?
[09:06] <Vustom> Okay. :D
[09:06] <gordonjcp> 192.168.55.0/24
[09:06] <histo> gordonjcp: tried explaining this an hour ago
[09:06] <newuser> gbence Where? i'm new to Ubuntu  :)  i don't know how to see devices list
[09:07] <gordonjcp> Vustom: what that means is 192.168.55.<something> with only the first 24 bits (the 192.168.55) bit important
[09:07] <gbence> newuser: terminal
[09:07] <Shadow}}> ...Its a good thing I did that, The friggin card's fan wasn't even running!!
[09:07] <gbence> ofc
[09:08] <newuser> gbence Okay I'll try soon. Now i write from other machine. and one question. How to access my 2 hdd from live usb?
[09:08] <histo> newuser: did you figure out which chipset your wireless is yet?
[09:09] <gbence> newuser: you have to check which disk u want to use.. fdisk -l
[09:09] <newuser> histo I write from other PC... thanks for help) Try soon
[09:09] <gbence> newuser: then u have to mount them with mount /dev/sdXY /mnt
[09:10] <Shadow}}> Dr_Willis : histo ; Thanks for the aid, You two likely saved my computer....
[09:10] <newuser> gbence Thanks) please repeat what i must write in terminal to access my HDD?
[09:10] <histo> newuser: if you open nautilus or the file looking thing on the launcher you should see your drivers in the left pane. When you click on them it will mount them for you.
[09:11] <Shadow}}> I never would have noticed the lack of noise from the card's fan considering I only recently switched back to this desktop from that all-in-one win.8 crap machine. So yeah, I'm off for the night. Thanks again, Sincerely.
[09:11] <newuser> To all:  my 2nd HDD is raw in windows. Can i read data from Ubuntu?  :)
[09:12] <Vustom> gordonjcp: I did that and restarted the server. Can't connect, says PPTP connect errno = 60 Operation timed out
[09:12] <newuser> My 2nd HDD becames raw after split RAID massive. Can I recover it from Ubuntu?
[09:13] <surt> Does anyone know how to reset my display, resolution settings please?
[09:14] <histo> surt: there is no resetting
[09:14] <histo> surt: there is only configuring it properly
[09:16] <surt> histo: I appreciate the offer for help but what you're suggesting is incorrect. This 13.04 installation in running perfectly without an xorg.conf file and is customised.
[09:17] <surt> So the display details are stored elsewhere.
[09:17] <histo> surt: in the user's home
[09:17] <gordonjcp> Vustom: is pptpd running?
[09:18] <Vustom> I tried service pptpd status but no response
[09:18] <tirengarfio> I have an application called ranktracker running: http://pastebin.com/tMdcxuYk Now I want it in the foreground  so I have run: fg 3291,  but it says: bash: fg: 3291: no such job
[09:19] <surt> histo: Do you know where, in the user's home folder?
[09:20] <histo> surt: /home/surt
[09:20] <gordonjcp> Vustom: you might need sudo
[09:21] <surt> histo: Yes that's the home folder, if you mean the root of that folder, then again you're incorrect because there's no xorg.conf file there...
[09:21] <gordonjcp> Vustom: no, actually, it does nothing
[09:21] <gordonjcp> Vustom: try "ps ax | grep pptpd
[09:21] <histo> surt: do you have a .xprofile ?
[09:21] <Vustom> gordonjcp: http://paste.pm/8mk.js
[09:21] <surt> histo: No.
[09:22] <histo> surt: actually not to fond of your tone so good luck
[09:22] <gordonjcp> Vustom: okay, mine does the same
[09:22] <Vustom> gordonjcp: http://paste.pm/8ml.js
[09:22] <surt> Thank I'm going to need it.
[09:22] <histo> surt: i'm not incorrect btw I never told you to look for an xorg.conf in your home. Have fun
[09:22] <gordonjcp> Vustom: so, it's running
[09:22] <gordonjcp> Vustom: so on your client machine, try connecting to the server
[09:23] <Vustom> I opened up ports 22 and 1723 too.
[09:23] <surt> histo: Look man, I came here for help. There just isn't an xorg.conf file to be found.
[09:23] <surt> On the entire system in fact.
[09:23] <Vustom> gordonjcp: Same error. :(
[09:23] <histo> surt: I'm well aware of this.
[09:24] <surt> histo: Then...why did you tell me to look in /etc/X11, and the home folder for it?
[09:24] <gordonjcp> Vustom: check that you can actually ping the server, and that you can see the pptpd port
[09:25] <histo> surt: I didn't
[09:25] <janne_> enyone here ?
[09:26] <histo> yes
[09:27] <Vustom> gordonjcp: I can ping using "ping (server ip)" and it doesn't go past the first line.
[09:28] <Vustom> I did ping from within the server.. >.<
[09:28] <surt> histo: Let me re-phrase my question, if you're still interested in helping me? I just want to be able to use my new monitors, when I type xrandr -s 2560x1440 I get this: "Size 2560x1440 not found in available modes"
[09:28] <janne_> have 1 Q ...i new at thix xubuntu and have installed it last nigth ..but were do i find update ? it tells me that i have the lastest one but 12.04 is not the latest one or is it?
[09:28] <Vustom> It's fine now
[09:29] <Vustom> gordonjcp: I'm getting request timeout for lcmp_seq XX
[09:29] <k1l> janne_: 12.04 is the latest LTS version
[09:29] <janne_> k1l aha ok thx ..were do i see what version i have ?
[09:30] <k1l> janne_: type in a terminal: "lsb_release -a"
[09:30] <janne_> k1l ok i try it
[09:31] <histo> !xrandr | surt
[09:31] <gordonjcp> Vustom: okay, but you can actually ping the server when you try from your client machine?
[09:31] <janne_> aha thx for info ...
[09:31] <janne_> were can i get commands to learn?
[09:31] <k1l> janne_: if you want to upgrade to another version see the upgrade instructions:
[09:32] <k1l> !upgrade | janne_
[09:32] <janne_> k1l ok ...
[09:33] <Vustom> gordonjcp: same thing
[09:33] <janne_> weard ...it seems to not find cd rom in home mapp :/
[09:34] <janne_> do i have to install that to ?
[09:34] <gordonjcp> Vustom: same thing as what?
[09:35] <sab3r> janne_: what exactly do you want to install?
[09:35] <janne_> so i can find cd rom /burner
[09:36] <k1l> janne_: you need to put a cd into the drive to see it
[09:36] <xkernel> Rhythmbox is not importing music at all!
[09:36] <janne_> k1l aha
[09:36] <Vustom> gordonjcp: I'm getting request timeout for lcmp_seq XX still, when trying to ping from my pc
[09:37] <janne_> like i told u all ...iḿ a noob at this *S*
[09:38] <gbence> guys, have u tried installing ubuntu 12.04 on hp microserver n36l?
[09:38] <Guest56587> ok
[09:39] <janne_> how to update the firefoc moduls?? tells me that i dont have some insticksmodul ??
[09:39] <Left_Turn> !mount
[09:41] <gordonjcp> Vustom: that sounds like you have deeper networking problems
[09:42] <geoffw8_> Hey Ubuntu. We have an account with UK2 (not for long!) and our server goes down, they tell me to check the logs. I've checked the logs, they be empty (ish). Are there any exception tracking tools I can use that will catch the error?
[09:43] <Vustom> gordonjcp: I will end you a screenshot of something I think might be causing this issue..
[09:44] <krad> hi.  i'm trying to load a module on my vps.. it says: libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod.c:554 kmod_search_moddep: could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/2.6.31.6/modules.dep.bin'
[09:44] <salaet> hi
[09:44] <krad> any idea why i'm getting this?
[09:44] <salaet> anybody knows utility that can monitor files are opened in a directory
[09:44] <salaet> ?
[09:44] <Vustom> gordonjcp: Wait.. 1723 is meant to be unblocked, do I unblock it on TCP or UDP?
[09:45] <salaet> it's for track employees in work
[09:46] <salaet> and be fantastic that connects with redmine
[09:46] <llutz> !info iwatch | salaet
[09:46] <salaet> llutz and ubottu thanks
[09:48] <salaet> and other utility similar that gfi webmonitor
[09:48] <salaet> squid+ ...
[09:48] <gordonjcp> Vustom: both
[09:49] <k1l> krad: talk to your hoster for loading modules on your vserver
[09:50] <Vustom> gordonjcp: VPS is hosted at Windows Azure, maybe that's why? Opened ports but still can't connect.
[09:52] <krad> k1l, i have a xen
[09:53] <jerrin> is there a repository for php-5.3.4 on ubuntu 12.04? i tried searching, but couldn't find any
[09:54] <Ben64> !info php5 precise
[09:55] <Ben64> jerrin: uh, 5.3.10 > 5.3.4
[09:55] <Justus> hi, I'm trying to install gpgme but I can't find a package
[09:55] <dazzle> I have this process in my htop, and I don't think it's a good one. The command is '/usr/sbin/kerneloops'. What does that mean?
[09:55] <jerrin> yes, but i need that 5.3.4 version
[09:55] <Ben64> jerrin: why? newer is better
[09:55] <gordonjcp> Vustom: I don't know what that is, and I haven't used Windwos
[09:55] <gordonjcp> *windows
[09:56] <Ubnoobtu> Can anyone help me with Unetbootin; and general linux questions?
[09:56] <gordonjcp> !ask | Ubnoobtu
[09:56] <Vustom> gordonjcp: Ergh, after some research there's a protocol or something disabled in Windows Azure which stops PPTP from working, but I found a tutorial on how to use OpenVPN on Windows Azure so I'll follow that. :D
[09:56] <k1l> Ubnoobtu: is it an ubuntu issue? or is it more general. when its more general you might be better off in ##linux or the unetbootin support
[09:57] <Vustom> gordonjcp: Since I won't be using pptp, how do I turn it off?
[09:57] <gordonjcp> Vustom: uninstall the package
[09:57] <gordonjcp> Vustom: wait, the VPS is running Ubuntu?
[09:57] <gordonjcp> Vustom: or what?
[09:57] <Vustom> yeah
[09:57] <Vustom> Ubuntu 12.04
[09:58] <Left_Turn> is there a way to shorten my device/PC name? It's way too long on my terminal
[10:00] <gordonjcp> Vustom: okay, so what's this Windows Azure thing?
[10:00] <Ubnoobtu> So, I'm trying to install UNetbootin on here, but it downloads as a .exe. I click on it to run it like you would in windows and it says it needs a program to install it. I download it, and it only makes things worse by seperating them into 6 different .par2 extentions. what can I learn rom this and where do I begin?
[10:01] <Ben64> Ubnoobtu: sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[10:01] <Ben64> Ubnoobtu: or find it in the ubuntu software center
[10:01] <DJones> Ubnoobtu: That sounds like you're downloading the version of unetbootin for Windows
[10:01] <Vustom> gordonjcp: http://windowsazure.com - It's like a way to deploy VPS, websites, etc all in one interface. I've only been using it for a few days but so far it's great
[10:01] <Ubnoobtu> It seems like the one in the USC is outdated , or thats what the orums say.
[10:02] <k1l> Ubnoobtu: why do you load a .exe? why dont you use the one ubuntu ships?
[10:02] <k1l> !info unetbootin
[10:02] <Ben64> Ubnoobtu: i haven't had a problem with it, its not like theres much to it, it just loads stuff onto a flash drive
[10:03] <Ubnoobtu> Its giving me problems its notloading properly
[10:03] <Ben64> explain the problems then, maybe someone knows how to fix it
[10:03] <dazru> is there an alternative to webhttrack in the software center?
[10:04] <Left_Turn> anyone know how to open a python file with IDLE?
[10:04] <dazru> i mean any other website copier other than webhttrack?
[10:04] <Ubnoobtu> I've downloaded a few .ISO and I tired using the usb-live booters to load onto my usb. But when I go to boot them, it doesnt go through all the way. Sometimes it'll just say boot: I really dont know what I'm doing here.
[10:05] <Ubnoobtu> so I tired installing the .ISOs using Unetbootin, and it's giving me a problem with these ISOs aswell
[10:06] <dazru> second question: how do you change the path of an icon?
[10:06] <smoke> im running dosemu for my bbs door, and when its being called its popping up a dosemu window, is there a way to prevent this from happening other than changing the user that dosemu is being called with?
[10:07] <glowe> Hey all! I am here hoping someone would like to help me get hibernation to work on 13.04. Anyone up for it?
[10:07] <altin> is anyone familiar with this bug ? http://pastebin.com/U7vn5GCR
[10:07] <altin> i cannot open software center
[10:07] <ikonia> smoke: dosemu is a windowed application, how do you expect to use it without the window popping up
[10:08] <cynicist> Ubnoobtu: if unetbootin isn't working for you, you can always create a bootable usb drive the manual way using dd
[10:08] <dazru> is there an alternative to webhttrack in the software center?
[10:08] <ikonia> altin: how are you launching it ?
[10:08] <smoke> ikonia, like i said, i'm running it for a bbs door game, so i dont need to see it locally thru the window in x
[10:08] <ActionPa1snip> glowe: does the system have a make and model?
[10:08] <gordonjcp> Ubnoobtu: use dd instead of unetbootin
[10:08] <ikonia> smoke: yes, but it needs te winow, it's a windowed application
[10:09] <smoke> ikonia, i dont believe it does.
[10:09] <cynicist> Ubnoobtu: sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/usb/drive (ex /dev/sdd, not /dev/sdd1)
[10:09] <altin> ikonia, that is when I launch it thorugh terminal
[10:09] <cynicist> Ubnoobtu: to find your usb drive letter you can use "df -h"
[10:09] <smoke> ikonia, it has xwindows support, (which is whats causing it to pop up in a window), there are arguments you could pass to it to force it to write to the terminal
[10:09] <ikonia> smoke: is there anything in dosemu --help to suggest it can be run without a window
[10:09] <dazru> how do you change the path of an icon?
[10:09] <ikonia> altin: what user are you ?
[10:09] <altin> but it freezes and crashes even if I launch it regularly ikonia
[10:09] <altin> ikonia, administrator
[10:09] <ikonia> smoke: yes, but the terminal is occupied by X
[10:09] <glowe> ActoinPalsnip : When i use the gnome power options i cant select Hibernation, button doesnt appear
[10:09] <ikonia> altin: what user exactly
[10:10] <henn> Alright, so
[10:10] <glowe> i Tried to install the Advanced tweak tools but selecting hibernation didnt help either
[10:10] <henn> My Unity task bar and the menu bar has disappeared
[10:10] <altin> ikonia, I don't get you ? like what ?
[10:11] <ikonia> smoke: doesmu -t ?
[10:11] <Ubnoobtu> Okay, Let me make this clear, I'm a young beginner, and the terminal is kinda scary for me, but I have to get DD from the respo, right? I do that by doing sudo get apt dd install?
[10:11] <henn> Anyone know how I can get them back?
[10:11] <ikonia> altin: what is the username you are running it as
[10:11] <MsCourtney> Is there a way to repair a Kubuntu installation without affecting files and settings?
[10:11] <gordonjcp> Ubnoobtu: dd is part of the standard install
[10:11] <smoke> ikonia, yeah im thinking that may work but its going to require me to change the code of the actual bbs itself
[10:11] <smoke> ikonia, i was hoping there was  a  way in dosemu.conf
[10:12] <Ubnoobtu> so like type like cynicist said too?
[10:12] <altin> ikonia, it is the first user, it has admin privileges, and is also part of sudo group...
[10:12] <cynicist> Ubnoobtu: you don't have to download anything, dd is installed by default
[10:12] <ikonia> altin: what command exactly are you using to launch it
[10:13] <altin>  $ software-center
[10:13] <altin> ikonia,
[10:13] <ikonia> altin: gksudo software-center
[10:13] <altin> ikonia, I don't have gksudo installed
[10:13] <Ubnoobtu> ! info dd
[10:13] <ikonia> altin: uname -a please
[10:13] <cynicist> Ubnoobtu: if it helps this is an example based on my setup, "sudo dd if=/home/cynical/Download/ubuntu-desktop.iso of=/dev/sdd"
[10:13] <altin> ikonia, E: Unable to locate package gksudo
[10:14] <altin> ikonia, Linux mozilla 3.8.0-27-generic #40-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 9 00:17:05 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:14] <cynicist> Ubnoobtu: basically if = input file and of = output file
[10:14] <ikonia> !info gksudo
[10:14] <ezra-s> software-center does not need to be started with root priviledge
[10:14] <altin> ezra-s, wasn't running it at sudo
[10:14] <Ubnoobtu> okay, so the if will be the location of the iso, and the of is the destination
[10:14] <helmholtz> What's the command to install a lamp stack (using taskel, ends with lamp^ or something)
[10:14] <ikonia> altin: try it with sudo - apparantly gksudo is gone in 13.04
[10:15] <cynicist> Ubnoobtu: and like I said you can find out the drive letter for your usb drive by typing the command "df -h" and looking for the size of your usb drive to find which /dev/sdX device it is
[10:15] <ikonia> altin: or install gksu (sudo apt-get install gksu)
[10:15] <altin> ikonia, it crashes again
[10:15] <ikonia> altin: exactly the same error ?
[10:16] <ezra-s> altin, software-center asks you for your password if it needs priviledges to install anything, you run it from your normal user
[10:16] <ikonia> ezra-s: he's having a problem launching it, I suspect he may have a messed up config, hence trying to clarify
[10:17] <Ubnoobtu> Can I copy and paste in the terminal?
[10:17] <altin> ikonia, ezra-s - after installing gksu http://pastebin.com/5V3PsZc4
[10:17] <blazemore> Ubnoobtu: Yes, ctrl-shift-c and ctrl-shift-v
[10:17] <Ubnoobtu> awesome
[10:18] <ikonia> altin: that's different, that looks like X windows is failing
[10:18] <dazzle> I have this one process that seems odd. HTOP shows the command is '/usr/sbin/kerneloops'. What does that means? The relevant USER is kernoops.
[10:18] <dotcom420> Hello there. I want to record audio and video in ubuntu terminal either separately or simultaneously as in recording youtube video. Is this possible?
[10:19] <wilee-nilee> dotcom420, youtube has a policy I suggest you read it, we can't support that here.
[10:19] <Left_Turn> how do i download this file: Sublime Text 2.0.2.tar.bz2 on my terminal?
[10:20] <ezra-s> (software-center:15584): Gdk-ERROR **: The program 'software-center' received an X Window System error. <-- Indeed
[10:20] <mathfreak> Left_Turn: What's the address of the file? Can you use wget?
[10:21] <glowe> hey all
[10:21] <Left_Turn> mathfreak:  click linux 32 link http://www.sublimetext.com/2
[10:21] <glowe> I got troubles with Hibernate, i think i know what the problem is
[10:21] <Left_Turn> i dont know what wgets is sorry mathfreak :(
[10:21] <glowe> Seems it interferes with WIFI
[10:21] <glowe> Anyone who can guide me?
[10:23] <dotcom420> wilee-nilee, is it possible to throw a output sound of a speaker to a file? I think that it doesn't break any policy. It's on client side only.
[10:25] <wilee-nilee> Left_Turn, You notice the license purchase after the evaluation I assume. I see links on the web for installs, and it is a click and download otherwise.
[10:25] <SuperLag> Left_Turn: if you know the link to it, with the full path... then do wget <that link>
[10:26] <blazemore> Left_Turn: http://www.technoreply.com/how-to-install-sublime-text-2-on-ubuntu-12-04-unity/
[10:26] <SuperLag> I'd like to take an MP3 file, cut a piece out of it and send it to my Nexus 4 to use as a ringtone. What app would I need on Ubuntu to do the editing?
[10:26] <Vustom> I've installed OpenVPN Access Server on Ubuntu and set everything up, how do I connect?
[10:26] <Left_Turn> wilee-nilee: can u give me the direct link to the linix 32 version pls
[10:26] <Left_Turn> thanks blazemore
[10:26] <mathfreak> SuperLag: I always go with Audacity.
[10:27] <SuperLag> mathfreak: do I need to be an audio engineer to know how to do that with Audacity? because I have Ardour, and it looks like it'll take a degree to figure out how it works. :)
[10:28] <wilee-nilee> Left_Turn, wget http://c758482.r82.cf2.rackcdn,com  I believe
[10:28] <mathfreak> SuperLag: No, you don't need to be an audio engineer. I only know how to use Audacity to cut up audio files.
[10:29] <mathfreak> SuperLag: I don't know much else about working with audio files.
[10:29] <wilee-nilee> wget http://c758482.r82.cf2.rackcdn.com actually
[10:30] <Daulity> hey all :)
[10:30] <glowe> Can anyone help me get Hibernate to work? I have tried alot of things. When i do pm-hibernate i get a screen with text (says something about ilwifi i think) and then it boots up again and wifi says disable by hardware switch. Doesnt it seems like hibernate is interfering with wifi?
[10:30] <iamnotarobot> How can I update my version of cmake?
[10:31] <Daulity> for some reason my x won't start it says that it can't find any screens, i haven't done anything special, my mouse and keyboard weren't working so i rebooted, now i have no gui/desktop any ideas what it could be how i could check what it could be ?
[10:31] <blazemore> !details | iamnotarobot what version are you on? Why do you want to upgrade?
[10:31] <mathnode> iamnotarobot, is the version available via apt-get too old for you?
[10:31] <Ubnoobtu> So, how do i know if the terminal is working, because it asked for my root password, and I put it in and it stopped doing anything.
[10:32] <mathfreak> Ubnoobtu: Nothing is supposed to show up when you type in your password on the terminal.
[10:32] <blazemore> !details | Ubnoobtu what were you trying to do?
[10:32] <mathnode> Ubnoobtu, just a flashing cursor?
[10:32] <SuperLag> mathfreak: yeah... can't even get it to play the audio
[10:32] <mathfreak> Ubnoobtu: From a practical and security standpoint, this makes sense. You don't really need to see *'s for every character, and having something show up can let people figure out the length of your password.
[10:33] <Ubnoobtu> I was using the DD to  copy files over to a USB, and uh, its my irst time doing something sucessful. it prompted me for my PW and stopped doing anything. now I just rechecked it and it produced...  654496+0 records in 654496+0 records out 335101952 bytes (335 MB) copied, 36.8749 s, 9.1 MB/s
[10:33] <Ubnoobtu> so does that mean it worked?
[10:33] <cynicist> Ubnoobtu: that means it is finished
[10:34] <cynicist> Ubnoobtu: and yes it worked
[10:34] <blazemore> Ubnoobtu: dd doesn't have an output until it's finished
[10:34] <Ubnoobtu> Thanks cynicist
[10:34] <mathfreak> Ubnoobtu: Yeah, that means it finished. dd can take a long time if you're copying lots of data, so you should go get a coffee break whenever you do something involving large files.
[10:34] <cynicist> Ubnoobtu: np, I hope it boots for you :)
[10:35] <Ubnoobtu> Ill be back in a moment!
[10:35] <iamnotarobot> ubottu, I'm building with cmake 2.8.7 and I get a message saying 2.8.9 or higher is required
[10:35] <dazru>  i have one icon in the lxpanel menu that is too big... think it's this problem https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=918360  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-artwork/+bug/1068642was told possible solution is to take off path of the icon... but not sure how to do it...
[10:35]  * iamnotarobot face-palms
[10:35] <dazru>  i have one icon in the lxpanel menu that is too big... think it's this problem https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=918360  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-artwork/+bug/1068642was was told possible solution is to take off path of the icon... but not sure how to do it...
[10:36] <dotcom420> wilee-nilee: Is Audacity the solution?
[10:36] <dazru> LUBUNTU 13.04
[10:36] <glowe> Can anyone help me get Hibernate to work? I have tried alot of things. When i do pm-hibernate i get a screen with text (says something about ilwifi i think) and then it boots up again and wifi says disable by hardware switch. Doesnt it seems like hibernate is interfering with wifi?
[10:37] <mathfreak> SuperLag: There should be a line that runs down the waveform graph. Is this line at the start of the file? (You can get it there by clicking and dragging, or setting it by entering 0's into the timer on the bottom)
[10:37] <ActionPa1snip> glowe: what is the make and model of the system (missed it earlier)
[10:38] <dazru> ActionPa1snip: help :)
[10:39] <ActionPa1snip> dazru: could edit /usr/share/applications file for the app
[10:39] <glowe> Actoinpa1snip its ubuntu 13.04 and im using a HP spectre XT
[10:40] <ActionPa1snip> glowe: do you have the latest BIOS?
[10:40] <dazru> ActionPa1snip: thank you. how do i have to edit it?
[10:40] <glowe> i think i do
[10:40] <mojeime> hi! i have 10.04.x lts and i want to install phpmyadmin 4.0.x. but when i add repository and type sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin it always installs the old version from ubuntu ppa, not the one from nijel's ppa. how can i install the newest version?
[10:41] <glowe> @actionpalsnip it seems like it is ilwifi that interferes
[10:41] <ActionPa1snip> dazru: its a text file, you can edit the icon there, may help
[10:41] <blazemore> mojeime: did you add "nijel's ppa" ?
[10:41] <ActionPa1snip> glowe: I'd check
[10:41] <mojeime> blazemore yes
[10:41] <blazemore> mojeime: Did you run "sudo apt-get update" after?
[10:41] <glowe> Im quite sure its wifi modules that doesnt work with hibernate
[10:41] <mojeime> blazemore yes and upgrade too
[10:42] <glowe> When i do pm-hibernate it doesnt work and with it goes back to screen i cant use wifi and its disabled
[10:42] <dazru> ActionPa1snip: ok. last question: where can i find stats of most installed apps from the software center?
[10:42] <blazemore> mojeime: Can you please post the result of running the command "cat /etc/apt/sources.list*" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the link in this channel?
[10:42] <glowe> do you know how to get the log
[10:42] <glowe> from hibernate
[10:43] <p0wp0w> test from irssi ftw
[10:43] <auronandace> !test | p0wp0w
[10:44] <mathfreak> p0wp0w: Would you recommend irssi?
[10:44] <mojeime> blazemore: i can't find "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/nijel/phpmyadmin/ubuntu lucid main " in this file, can i add it manually?
[10:44] <blazemore> mojeime: How did you add the PPA? You said you already added it? Also I didn't see your pastebin URL yet
[10:44] <Homely_Girl> Hi, silly question: When I open "home folder" how can I open a 2nd folder as I'd like to copy some files from one location to another.
[10:44] <p0wp0w> mathfreak: still testing it, used it on internal chat at my old job but never for personal use
[10:44] <p0wp0w> pretty cool so far
[10:44] <Homely_Girl> I'm using 12.04 and it's unity I believe
[10:44] <cynicist> Homely_Girl: middle click on nautilus or right click and choose a folder
[10:45] <Ubnoobtu> Okay. New problem, I used dd to copy the .iso to the usb, but when I booted, it just gave me a blinking _(underscore).
[10:45] <tamiya> hi guys, does anyone have this problem? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=2CrT6djv
[10:45] <sonu> hey guys i need help
[10:45] <sonu> i am new to Ubuntu so   i dont konw  the popular games for this distro can anyone tell me.
[10:45] <wilee-nilee> mojeime, The ppa if you added it is in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[10:45] <ActionPa1snip> dazru: how do you mean 'most installed apps'?
[10:45] <mathfreak> sonu: I like frozen-bubble
[10:45] <mojeime> blazemore: how to copy out this from putty? :)
[10:45] <tamiya> Why did apt-get say it is not authenticated? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=2CrT6djv
[10:45] <mathfreak> sonu: I've good things about Super Tux Racer as well
[10:45] <tamiya> Is it a security risk?
[10:45] <janne_> trying to find some terminal command to try out ..eny1 that have page for commands?
[10:46] <Homely_Girl> cynicist: I'm using 12.04 and it's unity I believe
[10:46] <dazru> ActionPa1snip: I mean there must be some way of knowing which are the most popular apps in the software center, correct?
[10:46] <ActionPa1snip> tamiya: you added a PPA but not its key
[10:46] <ActionPa1snip> dazru: no idea, why is it important?
[10:46] <tamiya> which PPA?
[10:46] <Ubnoobtu> Okay. New problem, I used dd to copy the .iso to the usb, but when I booted, it just gave me a blinking _(underscore).
[10:46] <tamiya> since yesterday I can't even do a apt-get update correctly anymore
[10:47] <ActionPa1snip> tamiya: what is the output of:  sudo apt-get update
[10:47] <mathfreak> Ubnoobtu: What sort of file did you copy to the USB?
[10:47] <wilee-nilee> tamiya, I would not be running from a rooted terminal to begin with that is a bad habit.
[10:47] <Ubnoobtu> kapersky recovery 10 .iso
[10:47] <blazemore> dazru: I wouldn't assume they keep that sort of information
[10:47] <dazru> ActionPa1snip: just so that i dont go learning a program that does not have a big chance of being around for a long time....
[10:47] <cynicist> Ubnoobtu: oh I thought you were trying to boot a linux iso
[10:48] <ActionPa1snip> dazru: just use what you need, skills are transferrable
[10:48] <babinlonston> which ftp i can use use ubuntu
[10:48] <blazemore> !details | babinlonston
[10:48] <berryciderspider> How do I update my svn from an http repository?
[10:49] <tamiya> Here is my apt-get update problem: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=p7nbcqHb
[10:49] <p0wp0w> i'm using the gnash plugin for firefox on ubuntu 13.04 - its hit and miss really. Any suggestions?
[10:49] <ActionPa1snip> babinlonston: client or server??? 'FTP' is just a protocol
[10:49] <dazru> dazru: for example which is the most popular cad program? freecad? pycad? ...
[10:49] <babinlonston> ubottu:  server i need to configured with very secured one
[10:50] <cynicist> Ubnoobtu: to boot that kaspersky software it looks like you need to use their utility to create the iso
[10:50] <dazru> ActionPa1snip: for example which is the most popular cad program? freecad? pycad? ...
[10:50] <babinlonston> ActionPa1snip: Server
[10:50] <blazemore> p0wp0w: Use the official flash player provided by the "flashplugin-nonfree" package
[10:50] <cynicist> Ubnoobtu: http://support.kaspersky.com/8092
[10:50] <Ubnoobtu> Well, My friends windows XP crashed and I want to make a toolkit to recovery data, or repair the HDD if possible. I heard that the kav.iso is pretty good for doing that and thought I could run it, since I cant get the usb utility to run on here either.
[10:50] <p0wp0w> blazemore: but I want free ;)
[10:50] <ActionPa1snip> babinlonston: then use sftp, it installs and starts when you install openssh-server
[10:50] <blazemore> p0wp0w: Sorry :\
[10:50] <blazemore> babinlonston: filezilla is a decent enough client
[10:51] <babinlonston> how can i protect as possible with good secure
[10:51] <p0wp0w> blazemore: ah well, I guess I will research for another while. I really want to avoid non-free if I can. I will use if I must though
[10:51] <ActionPa1snip> tamiya: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5
[10:51] <babinlonston> i want to configure secured ftp server in my box
[10:51] <cynicist> Ubnoobtu: since their iso creation utility is a windows executable I'd recommend booting into windows to create it
[10:51] <wilee-nilee> p0wp0w, The free flash will have you here always asking why it is not working I predict.
[10:51] <blazemore> babinlonston: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/ftp-server.html
[10:52] <p0wp0w> wilee-nilee: its a shame, would be nice to stay completely free.
[10:52] <Ubnoobtu> I don't have windows, lol. I tired using WINE to run it, but WINe doesnt pick up my USB
[10:52] <blazemore> Ubnoobtu: What are you trying to do that you think you need the Kaspersky disk for?
[10:52] <mojeime> blazemore: how to copy output from putty?
[10:52] <wilee-nilee> p0wp0w, Your welcome to build one that works. ;)
[10:52] <tamiya> no luck
[10:52] <blazemore> mojeime: Don't know I
[10:53] <cynicist> Ubnoobtu: if you just want to recover data you boot any linux livecd and copy files from their crashed XP install
[10:53] <Ubnoobtu> i think my friend's PC crashed due to malware, so I want to scan it and recover what I can for him, if not the whole HD
[10:53] <tamiya> actionpasniP: I ran that command, followed by apt-get update. still no good
[10:54] <mojeime> blazemore: ok, i've run command for adding repository once again and updated but when i apt-cache policy phpmyadmin, i get old version everytime
[10:54] <p0wp0w> wilee-nilee: I'll start learning now and have something available by 2022
[10:54] <p0wp0w> :)
[10:54] <blazemore> mojeime: what command exactly did you run? Are you following a guide?
[10:54] <wilee-nilee> p0wp0w, Heh I will help you. ;)
[10:54] <Ubnoobtu> The friend in question is 15, and he's uncomfortable using linux, so is there a way to keep him havin having to format and reinstall windows? I dont think he has window-cd to reinstall aswell.
[10:55] <blazemore> Ubnoobtu: I'd recommend reinstalling Windows, frankly
[10:55] <mojeime> blazemore: this is the command: "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nijel/phpmyadmin" from http://askubuntu.com/questions/304817/how-do-i-upgrade-the-version-of-phpmyadmin-from-3-3-to-3-5
[10:55] <cynicist> Ubnoobtu: hard to know without having access to the computer, there are so many things that could have gone wrong with his windows install
[10:55] <tamiya> seriously this apt-get update is pissing me off
[10:55] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, One can dualboot, I would clone the windows.
[10:55] <blazemore> mojeime: What Ubuntu version are you running?
[10:56] <mojeime> blazemore: 10.04.3 LTS
[10:56] <cynicist> Ubnoobtu: the best you can do imo is make a copy of his data with a livecd so he doesnt lose anything important
[10:56] <tamiya> cant believe the system lasts 2 weeks and then shits itself.
[10:56] <Ubnoobtu> wilee, is clonezilla good or that purpose?
[10:56] <blazemore> !eol | mojeime
[10:56] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, It is good and that is the purpose
[10:56] <mojeime> blazemore: it's a server edition
[10:57] <blazemore> oh
[10:57] <dazru> ActionPa1snip: could you please give me an advice for a good easy html editor?
[10:58] <wilee-nilee> tamiya, The channel ask you don't swear, for one you are using a rooted terminal I'm not surprised your having problems, you have to follow protocols to distro's
[10:58] <Ubnoobtu> cynicist, wilee-nilee, I want to start a business recovering data from harddrives. what other linux builds would be useful for recovery, repairing, and other "pc-medic" type of situtions?
[10:58] <mojeime> blazemore: can i clean cache somehow, because when i run apt-cache policy phpmyadmin it's showing the old version
[10:59] <vlt> Ubnoobtu: grml.org
[10:59] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, Not sure really, never considered it, I do own a business though just not associated with computers.
[11:00] <ikonia> Ubnoobtu: does it not strike you as unwise to open a business trying to do something you seem to know nothing about
[11:01] <Ubnoobtu> Only if I intented on starting it today.
[11:01] <berryciderspider> How do I run apache?
[11:01] <ikonia> berryciderspider: have you installed it ?
[11:02] <berryciderspider> ikonia: yeah from the lamp-server^ stack
[11:02] <ikonia> berryciderspider: so it should auto start after the install
[11:02] <ikonia> berryciderspider: what makes you think it's not runnin ?
[11:02] <ikonia> running even
[11:02] <gordonjcp> Ubnoobtu: that's a terrible idea for a business
[11:03] <dazru> anybody can advice a good easy html editor to creat web pages?
[11:03] <berryciderspider> ikonia: right, thanks
[11:03] <blazemore> Ubnoobtu: if you want to start a business recovering data, why aren't you familiar with data recovery tools?
[11:03] <Ubnoobtu> ikonia| I'm pretty knowledgable on reparing the hardware, but when it comes to diagnosing software issues, my partner is the expert.
[11:03] <ActionPa1snip> dazru: bluefish
[11:04] <MsCourtney> Where can I learn about Ubuntu? I am a beginner. I want to get used to the terminal commands and such.
[11:04] <gordonjcp> dazru: gedit comes pre-installed
[11:04] <ikonia> MsCourtney: https://help.ubuntu.com
[11:04] <Vustom> I installed FTP on my Ubuntu VPS, when connecting it says ftp server is anonymous only, any ideas?
[11:04] <ikonia> Vustom: change the config
[11:04] <mojeime> blazemore: what can i do -.-"?
[11:04] <Vustom> to?
[11:04] <ikonia> Vustom: you can select real users or ananymous or virtual
[11:04] <berryciderspider> ikonia: I'm trying to get drupal working, but i'm not sure how to add the drupal site directory to the (equivalent) host file
[11:04] <ikonia> berryciderspider you don't put a directory in the host file
[11:05] <MsCourtney> ikonia: Ok thanks, that was probably a stupid question. Btw the laptop started to work after removing internal batteries.
[11:05] <Vustom> I just uncommeted local_enable YES but that didn't work
[11:05] <ikonia> Vustom: have you restarted the ftp daemon
[11:05] <dazru> ActionPa1snip: ok thank you. bye bye. p.s. i found the popularity stats: http://popcon.ubuntu.com/
[11:05] <blazemore> dazru: fyi those stats are self-selecting opt-in
[11:06] <Ubnoobtu> blazemore| anyways, its just a hobby now. I'm aspiring to make something out of this eventully.
[11:06] <Vustom> whats the command for that?
[11:06] <gordonjcp> Ubnoobtu: won't happen
[11:06] <gordonjcp> Ubnoobtu: and you don't want it to happen, either
[11:06] <gordonjcp> Ubnoobtu: stay entirely the hell away from data recovery
[11:06] <ikonia> Vustom: I'd strongly suggest you read https://help.ubuntu.com and look at the server section to get a grip on the basics
[11:06] <Vustom> sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart?
[11:06] <dazru> blazemore: yes but looks like librecad is the most popular cad program.... that's what i wanted to know
[11:06] <ikonia> Vustom: you need to know this before you run an ftp server and possibly get explioted
[11:07] <berryciderspider> ikonia: I know, but is referencing it the same as it is in windows?
[11:07] <berryciderspider> ikonia: and where is the host file?
[11:07] <ikonia> berryciderspider referencing what ?
[11:08] <vlt> gordonjcp: Why?
[11:08] <ikonia> berryciderspider: sorry, I'm not following what you are saying, what's the actual problem you want to resolve
[11:08] <berryciderspider> ikonia:the drupal site directory
[11:08] <vlt> Ubnoobtu: I encourage you to continue. Read a lot, ty a lot.
[11:08] <ikonia> berryciderspider: you don't put the directory in the host file
[11:08] <Ubnoobtu> gordonjcp| Why? I'm just curious because I had a client that needed our help and we couldn't help him. He was a little old korean drycleaner who never backed up his data, and ended up loosing all o his customers tickets and info.
[11:08] <vlt> Ubnoobtu: Have a look at distros like grml.org
[11:08] <gordonjcp> vlt: because out of the huge list of stuff you don't want in your life, the kind of people who use data recovery services are a fat chunk of them
[11:08] <berryciderspider> ikonia: I know that. OK how do I get a drupal instance that I have in svn going?
[11:09] <vlt> gordonjcp: Well yes, I hadn’t seen it that way :-D
[11:09] <Ubnoobtu> gordonjcp, vlt; WTF! LMFAO, WWWHHYYY?
[11:09] <Vustom> Why aren't I able to connect via FTP? It just times out.
[11:09] <ikonia> berryciderspider: you check it out of svn, move it to web root, then configure the database
[11:09] <gordonjcp> Ubnoobtu: because you will get the person who has washed the USB stick with the only copies of the photos of their daughter's graduation in the pocket of their jeans on a hot wash cycle, lost the stick in the garden when they hung it out to dry, and found it a week later when they mowed the grass
[11:09] <ikonia> Vustom: possibly a firewall
[11:09] <gordonjcp> Ubnoobtu: and somehow it's *your* fault they lost the pictures
[11:09] <ikonia> Vustom: or the daemon is not started
[11:10] <Vustom> firewall is off, port 21 is open
[11:10] <blazemore> Ubnoobtu: The soft of people who need data recovery are the sort of people who don't back up. You don't want to spend all day dealing with the sort of person who doesn't back up
[11:10] <gordonjcp> Ubnoobtu: you will get the people who bring in obviously stolen kit that they have "forgotten the password for"
[11:10] <gordonjcp> Ubnoobtu: masses of them, in face
[11:10] <gordonjcp> *fact
[11:10] <berryciderspider> ikonia: ah ok cheers.
[11:10] <gordonjcp> Ubnoobtu: you'll get the local gangsters who want mobile phones unlocked
[11:10] <gordonjcp> Ubnoobtu: all that crap
[11:10] <gordonjcp> you don't need it
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> blazemore  i managed to ruin my backup, by forgetting a trailing slash in a cron task
[11:11] <gordonjcp> Ubnoobtu: I do a bit of data recovery, and I get that all the time
[11:11] <Ubnoobtu> That might not be so bad for me, I need some business, lol. i'm a broke college student trying to get my " husle and grind " on.
[11:11] <vlt> gordonjcp: Just curious: What tools do you use?
[11:11] <gordonjcp> vlt: testdisk, 99% of the time
[11:12] <gordonjcp> Ubnoobtu: I tend not to get the idiots because I live in a quiet part of rural Scotland, with CCTV and shotguns ;-)
[11:12] <vlt> gordonjcp: Ok, as I thought ;-)  Do you deal with really broken drives also?
[11:12] <gordonjcp> Ubnoobtu: you get all kinds of people you don't want showing up to poke around your farm
[11:12] <gordonjcp> vlt: not if I can help it
[11:14] <berryciderspider> ikonia: is it as simple as "mv svn/site/directory /var/www/" ?
[11:15] <Ubnoobtu> gordonjcp: I got into this business by installing CCTVs, digtal recorders and all that. I deal with forgeiners mostly, and they are always having hard drive crashes. At the moment, I'm onlly running tests to check if its a hard drive failure, or a platter/motor ailure. And I'm charging them to buy the new HD, and the labour it takes to switch out the platters, then back it up to a HD I have. It's wasteful but they keep BEGGING me fo
[11:16] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, As a owner operator business owner a service business carpet & upholstery cleaning I make 100$ per hour, it is a single task, no extras to create chances of complaints, it works beautifully.
[11:16] <wilee-nilee> I come I clean I live with the money
[11:16] <wilee-nilee> leave*
[11:17] <ptuladhar> \quit
[11:17] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: nice
[11:17] <Ubnoobtu>  / me nods.
[11:17] <wilee-nilee> keep it simple is my motto, and be good at what you do.
[11:19] <napsc> wilee-nilee: i think that should be the linux motto too
[11:20] <Ubnoobtu> Okay, so data recovery is generally a waste of time unless its for something uniquely special. People will be asking or me to do illegal acts such as rooting their phones, aiding in the theift of computers and etc. Pretty interesting. Makes me think of DREDD, with the nerdy kid working or the mamaw gang.
[11:20] <Ben64> Ubnoobtu: labour? switching out platters? something seems wrong here
[11:21] <wilee-nilee> heh, yeah, never would have imagined this business I used to be a pro jazz musician and am now in a masters program hoping to get a PhD in the end which may after awhile generate that income per session, I can always clean carpets, lol
[11:21] <Ubnoobtu> wilee, you got it happening man.
[11:22] <berryciderspider> How do I get my svn repo working on apache?
[11:24] <Ubnoobtu> Thanks everyone for the chat and help. I'm glad the ubuntu community is helpful. thank you.
[11:24] <flipper88_fl> any googd i8k utils howtos for ubuntu?
[11:25] <Vustom> When i try connect via FTP I get "Server response: '550 Failed to change directory.'"
[11:25] <flipper88_fl> !8k
[11:25] <flipper88_fl> ! !8k
[11:25] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, Good luck.
[11:25] <xeonix> Is there anything I can do with overheating of my laptop, its frequently getting halted. Acer 5755G
[11:26] <wilee-nilee> xeonix, Did you install the lm-sensors and have an accurate read of temps?
[11:26] <Ubnoobtu> Hey wilee, you oughta give out more advice, you have me inspired and pondering what my next move should be. thanks again for your insight.
[11:27] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, No prob, self employment was the best feeling I have had as far as freedom, problem is I'm a slacker so I work as litle as possible.
[11:28] <martin1989> does someone use tuquito?
[11:28] <Ubnoobtu> wilee, me to man, me too. Thats why I want to work on PCs, I'm tired o working in the dairy plant. lol
[11:28] <xeonix> wilee-nilee, no. I will install it and what do you mean by having accurate read of temps?
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> !find tuquito
[11:29] <wilee-nilee> xeonix, lm-sensors can tell you the temps, I use a conky though that shows those and other info.
[11:29] <martin1989> it is not a program
[11:29] <martin1989> or file
[11:29] <martin1989> or package
[11:29] <ActionPa1snip> martin1989: everything in Linux is a file ;)
[11:29] <martin1989> it is an argentinian linux distribution
[11:30] <martin1989> haha
[11:30] <wilee-nilee> martin1989, Not supported here then. ;)
[11:30] <martin1989> where is it supported??
[11:30] <martin1989> i cannot find a server to ask about tuquito
[11:31] <DJones> martin1989: You may want to ask about tuquito in ##linux or it may have its own support channels, hopefully their website or #freenode should be able to help you
[11:31] <wilee-nilee> martin1989, Not sure but if your registered ##linux covers a lot of things all linux.
[11:31] <martin1989> ok
[11:31] <martin1989> thanx
[11:32] <wilee-nilee> xeonix, here is the wiki. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> martin1989  type /join #tuquito
[11:33] <martin1989> where??
[11:33] <martin1989> right here??
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> martin1989  yes
[11:34] <flipper88_fl> is there a front end for i8kutils that is graphical
[11:34] <martin1989> join #tuquito
[11:34] <martin1989> nothing happens
[11:34] <wilee-nilee> flipper88_fl, Yes
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> martin1989  http://www.tuquito.org.ar/soporte.html
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> martin1989  it's /join, with a slash
[11:36] <martin1989> thank you man
[11:36] <rock2503> hi!
[11:36] <subzero> hi
[11:36] <rock2503> list!
[11:36] <flipper88_fl> when i try to install gnome-swallow-applet i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/5950907/
[11:37] <flipper88_fl> wilee-nilee:
[11:38] <wilee-nilee> flipper88_fl, It has been awhile since I owned a dell, I never used that applet, look in synaptic for i8kutils there was a nice gui, and I found the setup on the web, I just do not remember it all.
[11:39] <flipper88_fl> thanks wilee-nile will do
 : check your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:39] <Topcat> I get access deniad when logging into my box with vsftp with a local user account and local_enable in the server config. what else have i missed?
[11:40] <Topcat> what folder permission does the directory need
[11:41] <flipper88_fl> Topcat: usermod -G ftp username where user name is you're username on the box inquestion
[11:42] <Topcat> flipper88_fl: done that, still not having it. it's definitely the right password too
[11:42] <wilee-nilee> flipper88_fl, Found it gkrelm, used to be in the repos you will have to check. http://members.dslextreme.com/users/billw/gkrellm/gkrellm.html
[11:42] <janne_> can eny1 help me ? have problems whit wireless connection ..cant find it enywere...have tryed to serch in google
[11:42] <bjacob> Hi, mozilla dev here, i really need to install BOTH 32bit and 64bit OpenGL libs (multilib) on 64bit Ubuntu 12.04 LTS... I can use either Mesa or binary NVIDIA, whichever works... so is there a package that I can install?
[11:42] <jrib> flipper88_fl, Topcat: stop, don't run that
[11:43] <Topcat> needs -aG right?
[11:43] <jrib> Topcat: yes
[11:43] <Topcat> ;)
[11:43] <Topcat> that's still not doing it though
[11:44] <indistylo> i had installed Jboss AS 7 Server on ubuntu 12.04 following this link (https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-jboss-on-ubuntu-12-10-64bit ), I am having port conflict problem, not able to login at Jboss Admin console. Port 127.0.0.1:8080 tomcat6 is being used and by default Jboss also using localhost. Please suggest how to fix it
[11:44] <blah> hello there guys
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> indistylo: change one of the ports
[11:44] <indistylo> ActionPa1snip: How?
[11:45] <flipper88_fl> Ubuntu LTS is surrpoted untill april of 2017 on all plat forms right, Excuse the noobish questios.
[11:45] <wilee-nilee> flipper88_fl, 12.04 yes
[11:45] <blah> can someone help me out with dual boot installation of ubuntu with windows 8?
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> brb
[11:46] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | blah sure
[11:46] <flipper88_fl> Good ai covertly ditched Xubuntu thismorning in order to get that extra three year of peice of mind wilee-nilee
[11:46] <zylinx> ^^ this i came here for help on this too
[11:46] <atmosx> Hello, I am trying to setup an ubuntu HTPC to play along with my samsing monitor. If I plug the pc on a VGA screen everything it's ok but on my Samsung HDTV 32" I see only a black signal saying "Mode not supported"
[11:46] <blah> thanks ubotto
[11:46] <wilee-nilee> blah, This is a oem W8 correct?
[11:47] <blah> let me have a look at it
[11:47] <blah> yessir thats right, its oem w8
[11:47] <atmosx> I've read online that I need somehow to change my HTPC to send 480p or 720p or 1080p, modes like 480i are not supported. But I don't know how to configure this also xandrr reports "no hdmi"
[11:47] <indistylo> Folks Kindly suggest solutions to my problem
[11:48] <blah> i keep getting this error even after disabling UEFI
[11:48] <wilee-nilee> blah, Here is more info the author is one of the best in this area and will stop by threads to help if you make one. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[11:48] <blah> File: \ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr State: 0xc000007b Information: Could not load application or Operating System because of the lack of the required file or errors in this file
[11:48] <xeonix> wilee-nilee, installed lm-sensors and had a look at that link, as far as I could see, my temp is still +79.0°C
[11:48] <janne_> can eny1 help me ?
[11:49] <Vustom> Can someone please tell me why I can't connect via FTP? I've commented out anonymous_enable=YES and uncommented local_enable=YES and write_enable=YES, as well as opened port 21.
[11:49] <wilee-nilee> xeonix, Possibly a bit high, the sensors if they are all there sometimes need tweaking I have heard, not really an area I'm confident in altogether though. Just thought getting more info may help.
[11:50] <janne_> is there a command for wireless network in ubuntu that i can use to fix my problem?
[11:51] <wilee-nilee> janne_, You might run lspci to identify the wifi hardware and post a detailed description and the HW info for channel help.
[11:51] <xeonix> Oh, okay, wilee-nilee, thanks for your concern. But, i did installed lubuntu-desktop and when I login with lubuntu shell I don't find this issue.
[11:52] <janne_> ok i try ...iḿ new at this so you have to ecuse me for stuped Q
[11:52] <p0wp0w> I need to setup a mailserver, thinking postfix & dovecot - multiple domains any recommendations?
[11:52] <wilee-nilee> xeonix, Lubuntu runs much lighter, that may be your answer for the moment, sounds like some older hardware.
[11:53] <martin1989> what is lighter? Xubuntu or Lubuntu?
[11:53] <wilee-nilee> martin1989, lubuntu
[11:53] <martin1989> ok
[11:54] <wilee-nilee> xubuntu can be tweaked though from what I have heard
[11:54] <xeonix> but, I am dead fan of gnome 3
[11:54] <wilee-nilee> the shell for the win
[11:55] <indistylo> Folks I had installed Jboss AS 7 Server on ubuntu 12.04 following this link (https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-jboss-on-ubuntu-12-10-64bit ), I am having port conflict problem, not able to login at Jboss Admin console. Port 127.0.0.1:8080 tomcat6 is being used and by default Jboss also using localhost. Please suggest how to fix it
[11:56] <wilee-nilee> indistylo, You might consider the ubuntu server they have a channel and is actually supported.
[11:57] <indistylo> wilee-nilee, Suggest that channel
[11:57] <wilee-nilee> indistylo, #ubuntu-server
[11:57] <saleem> hi, how to fix this display issue on ubuntu live session on 12.04? http://askubuntu.com/questions/139051/i-have-this-weird-issue-with-my-monitor-how-can-i-fix-it
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> saleem: what video chip do you use?
[11:58] <saleem> neither i get display in live session nor can i directly start installer , bot thimes i get same type of display
[11:58] <saleem> nvidia gt 240
[11:58] <indistylo> wilee-nilee, thanx
[11:59] <wilee-nilee> indistylo, No problem, not sure they will help with Jboss but a place to know of.
[11:59] <saleem> i tired nomodeset , xforcevesa , removing quiet splash , all routine methods bt i dont get proper display on live session
[12:00] <janne_> ahh this is making me nuts soon :(....
[12:01] <saleem> anything left that i can try to boot this 12.04 live session somehow?
[12:01] <blah> guys I just tried using wubi to install ubuntu, didn't help..
[12:02] <Topcat> this is driving me mad. Every doc says vsftp.conf needs local_enable=YES, open port 21 and you're golden but it's just not leting me log in at all
[12:02] <janne_> saleem try to make a usb boot stick i did and it worked fine ..but i use xubuntu 12.04
[12:02] <blah> When the system reboots, it gives the error "File: \ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr State: 0xc000007b Information: Could not load application or Operating System because of the lack of the required file or errors in this file"
[12:03] <janne_> blah..try that u to
[12:03] <Topcat> there any firewall stuff i should check that ufw allow 21 won't do for me?
[12:03] <saleem> janne_, i tried usb as well, neither works , i get same display error
[12:03] <blah> janne_ try what?
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> blah: tried chkdsk-ing your NTFS partition>
[12:04] <janne_> saleem what version of ubuntu ? 32 or 64 version
[12:04] <janne_> blah sorry wrong chat *S*
[12:04] <saleem> 32 bit
[12:04] <blah> lol its okay
[12:04] <Pici> Topcat: I'd try connecting to ftp locally (i.e. ftp 127.0.0.1) to see if that works before trying to troubleshoot whether it is a network problem.
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> saleem: install the nvidia-current package then run:   passwd; killall -u $USER     you will then load the driver and be able to login as 'ubuntu' with the pass you set
[12:05] <janne_> saleem is it 13.04 u are trying to install?
[12:05] <blah> ActionParsnip its a newly created partition
[12:05] <saleem> thanks ActionParsnip m this sounds like a saviour hint
[12:06] <gordonjcp> Topcat: have you considered using sftp?
[12:06] <saleem> janne_, nah precise 12.04.02
[12:06] <Topcat> I'm getting 530 kogin incorrect locally
[12:06] <janne_> saleem ok ...then its weard so i cant help :/..sorry
[12:07] <Topcat> I can't do it another way I don't want to reprogramme the software i'm trying to get working unfortunately gordonjcp
[12:07] <gordonjcp> Topcat: well, leave ftp installed and wait for someone else to come along and set it up for you
[12:07] <blah> any suggestions for me guys?
[12:07] <blah> tried chkdsking too
[12:08] <Topcat> gordonjcp: wat..? that's not even remotely help full dont waste my time
[12:09] <ubutom_>  whelp, I have a slight problem with ubuntu recently, it seems like it doesn't want to wake up anymore after the recent update. Meaning whereas before it woke up from standby without a problem it now gives me only a slightly flashing screen and doesn't react to any keystrokes.
[12:09] <gordonjcp> Topcat: how far have you got with vsftp?
[12:09] <saleem> ActionParsnip, i noticed it down, will test it now and report back to you
[12:09] <berryciderspider> What;s the default port for apache?
[12:09] <blazemore> berryciderspider: 80
[12:09] <dotcom420> Hello there. I installed Audacity, pavucontrol etc. and after restart, my ubuntu is showing windows 98 like graphics. I also can't access files using file manager. :(
[12:10] <berryciderspider> thanks
[12:10] <dotcom420> Had i done something wrong?
[12:11] <blah> guys any suggestions?
[12:11] <rileyp> I want to run update but I get errors Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found  Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[12:11] <ubutom_> soo, any suggestions? :P
[12:11] <rileyp> Any help much appreciated
[12:11] <Topcat> gordonjcp: an install script set this up so as I can tell; /etc/vsftp.conf has the needed local_enable=YES, userlist_enable=NO. it's running on port 21.firewalls are expluded. the user account has all permissions and ownership of the directory and the ftp group
[12:12] <rileyp> I get about 20 errors simular to the one above
[12:12] <ubutom_> wake up from standby worked fine last weel and all, just 2 days ago or something there was a kernel update and since then it doesn'T work anymore
[12:12] <saiarcot895> rileyp: natty is no longer supported
[12:13] <saiarcot895> !natty | rileyp
[12:13] <rileyp> http://pastebin.com/fNXKAgZ0
[12:13] <rileyp> so how can i fix
[12:13] <dotcom420> I am currently running Ubuntu 11.04 :D
[12:13] <rileyp> I know its natty and i know its old so how can i update /upgrade it
[12:13] <dotcom420> Outdated i guess
[12:13] <saiarcot895> rileyp: you have to upgrade to at least 12.04 (Precise)
[12:14] <ubutom_> 12.04 precise, 3.5.0-37-generic btw, soo, really nobody else got problems with standby reactivation? :p
[12:14] <rileyp> yes thats what i want to do upgrate to precise
[12:14] <babinlonston> only one user want to access the ftp  particularly ftptest this user only have access to the files and its folder how to create a ftp ?
[12:14] <rileyp> how!
[12:14] <saiarcot895> rileyp: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[12:15] <rileyp> thanks
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> dotcom420: Natty is dead
[12:16] <dotcom420> ActionParsnip: Can i upgrade my current ubuntu 11.04 to ubuntu 13.04 without CD/DVD drive?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> dotcom420: you can upgrade to 11.10 then to 12.04 then to 12.10 then to 13.04
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> dotcom420: lots of time, lots of data
[12:16] <SuperLag> ActionParsnip: wow... you have to step through each of them?
[12:16] <flipper88_fl> Long dead at that. Any one know of a reaonably priced VPS provider?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> SuperLag: yes, unless its LTS to LTS, in which case its one jump
[12:17] <SuperLag> flipper88_fl: Linonde. Digital Ocean.
[12:17] <SuperLag> flipper88_fl: Linode, that is
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> dotcom420: could install using USB if your BIOS supports it
[12:17] <flipper88_fl> thanks SuperLag
[12:17] <rileyp> saiarcot895:  that page is outdated and stops the how to lucid
[12:17] <rileyp> *at lucid
[12:17] <rodrigograca31> SuperLag: AWS?
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> dotcom420: I'd clean install then restore data from backup
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> dotcom420: lots cleaner and a LOT quicker
[12:18] <rileyp> Id really like just to fix flash as its not working
[12:18] <SuperLag> dotcom420: and if your system is new enough you can boot from a USB stick, you don't need the CD-ROM
[12:18] <SuperLag> dotcom420: unetbootin
[12:18] <saiarcot895> rileyp: it can apply to future releases as well; just make sure to correct the codenames when using them
[12:18] <rodrigograca31> SuperLag: AWS provides you with 1 year free VPS (its not ver good but its no bad)
[12:19] <saiarcot895> rileyp: also, if you upgrade, you'll have to go 11.04 to 11.10 and then 11.10 to 12.04
[12:19] <dotcom420> Unfortunately my PC don't support USB boot. By the way, i don't care if my configuration is wiped out. Can it i download latest ISO and then directly run it in my current system?
[12:19] <SuperLag> rodrigograca31: yeah, I wouldn't put AWS in quite the same category
[12:19] <SuperLag> dotcom420: yes, if you don't care about that... then that's exactly what I'd do
[12:20] <dotcom420> The current system is installed on /dev/sda7. I don't care if anything happens to that drive.
[12:20] <ubutom_> So, anyone know of issues with a recent patch and wake up from standby? BEcause my laptop doesn't wake up anymore since a few days, can then only kill it with the power-button. Version is: 12.04 precise, 3.5.0-37-generic
[12:20] <rileyp> saiarcot895 I understand that bit I just dont know how to do it
[12:20] <rodrigograca31> SuperLag: i'm using AWS free "VPS" for testing "things" :)
[12:20] <Ben64> !eolupgrade | rileyp
[12:20] <absence> hi, i installed some packages from ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test that i now want to remove. how do i do that?
[12:20] <dotcom420> SuperLag: My PC don't support USB booting.
[12:21] <SuperLag> rodrigograca31: I have enough storage in my laptop, I do VMs locally. With 3 hard drives (and 1.47TB of usable space) and 32GB of RAM... no need to pay someone else for a VPS. :)
[12:21] <saiarcot895> rileyp: open up /etc/apt/sources.list (you'll need sudo permissions, so you might want to do "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" in Terminal)
[12:21] <gordonjcp> dotcom420: remove the hard drive, fit it to something that does support USB booting, install, swap it back
[12:21] <martin1989> 32 GM RAM??????????????
[12:21] <SuperLag> dotcom420: right, but you said you could download the latest CD-ROM and do it that way, didn't you?
[12:22] <martin1989> WOW!!!!!!!!!
[12:22] <FloodBot1> martin1989: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:22] <rileyp> saiarcot895 I know how to edit files thankfully!
[12:22] <saiarcot895> rileyp: then, add the three Required lines that are listed, and change the CODENAME to natty
[12:22] <SuperLag> martin1989: yes, sir. A Lenovo ThinkPad W530 maxes out at 32GB of RAM, and that's what I did. It'll take 3 hard drives, too, if you remove the optical drive.... and I did.
[12:23] <saiarcot895> rileyp: if you are using backports or proposed repos as well, you'll need to add lines for these as well
[12:23] <rodrigograca31> SuperLag: ups... i thought that you asked about VPS's.... and it was: flipper88_fl
[12:23] <dotcom420> gordonjcp: Yes, i was thinking that way too. But if it were possible to install from ISO file, it would have been neat.
[12:23] <rodrigograca31> flipper88_fl: AWS?
[12:23] <dotcom420> SuperLag: No, i was saying about latest ISO of ubuntu.
[12:23] <dotcom420> Not CD-ROM.
[12:23] <saiarcot895> rileyp: Slight correction: remove everything in sources.list and have only those three lines there
[12:24] <dotcom420> My CD-ROM is broken
[12:24] <Ben64> rileyp: just follow the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[12:25] <Topcat> gordonjcp & Pici: I've 'fixed' it but I wonder if somoene could explain why? I changed pam_service_name=vsftpd to pam_service_name=ftp
[12:25] <dotcom420> Anyway, thanks for the tip.
[12:25] <SuperLag> martin1989: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5951029/
[12:26] <gordonjcp> Topcat: well, PAM is how various services determine how to authorise users
[12:26] <gordonjcp> Topcat: so I'm guessing that by default it's not quite set up in the way that PAM expects it to identify itself
[12:27] <saiarcot895> rileyp: once that is done, save it and close it.
[12:27] <saiarcot895> rileyp: Then, run "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade"
[12:27] <dotcom420> Just a last question. My hardware is very old maybe maybe 13 or more! So, after installing ubuntu 13.04, does all of my old hardware work? Have you guys removed something in this update?
[12:27] <rodrigograca31> flipper88_fl: ?
[12:28] <flipper88_fl> whats up rodrigograca31
[12:28] <dotcom420> By the way, ubuntu 11.04 fully supports my old hardware.
[12:28] <rileyp> saiarcot895 Is it possible I could just do a manual install of flash player until I'm ready to throw caution to the wind!  The only issue i have with my current system is flash not working
[12:28] <gordonjcp> dotcom420: what spec is the machine you're installing on?
[12:28] <SuperLag> martin1989: MemTotal:       32580568 kB
[12:28] <dotcom420> Pentium 4 motherboard
[12:29] <rileyp> saiarcot895: rileyp: Then, run "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade" i have it all copied into a file for when Im ready to roll I have edited apt sources no problem
[12:29] <SuperLag> dotcom420: chances are... newer Ubuntu will support your old hardware too
[12:29] <dotcom420> Thanks
[12:30] <SuperLag> dotcom420: I'd follow gordonjcp's advice.
[12:30] <SuperLag> 05:21 < gordonjcp> dotcom420: remove the hard drive, fit it to something that does support USB booting, install, swap it back
[12:30] <dotcom420> Yes, good advice. I can do that.
[12:31] <saiarcot895> rileyp: you could download the deb binaries for flashplugin-installer from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/11.2.202.280ubuntu0.10.04.1 but keep in mind that if you do so, don't expect any support (well, Natty also has no support now)
[12:31] <Vustom> How can I give myself access to all files in /usr/local/openvpn_as/scripts/separate?
[12:32] <saiarcot895> rileyp: you really should upgrade/clean install to 12.04 soon
[12:32] <rodrigograca31> flipper88_fl: VPS? do you know about AWS?
[12:32] <dotcom420> Currently, i have three operating systems in grub. What is the safest way to touch only /dev/sda7 and then restore the grub?
[12:33] <flipper88_fl> rileyp: just backup you're important files and fresh install 12.04.2 (Percise)
[12:33] <dotcom420> Because i am gonna install ubuntu 13.04 on /dev/sda7
[12:33] <rileyp> saiarcot895 its a mythtv front end I just want flash to work really I know I need to upgrade mythtv as well and its to big a task to take on just now. At least I know how now...
[12:33] <dotcom420> And ubuntu 11.04 already exists on /dev/sda7
[12:34] <flipper88_fl> rodrigograca31: Yea i am just thinking abou building my own custom apt repos and thus a custom release of ubuntu.
[12:34] <rodrigograca31> flipper88_fl: another distro? .... :)
[12:35] <flipper88_fl> rodrigograca31: I can't even afford a hair cut a ma so damn broke atm so Vps might have to coe a s a christmas gift from parrents.
[12:35] <rileyp>   flipper88_fl: i will mirror what I have and do a clean install sure ... but I need to update my mythtv backend as well which is lucid...
[12:35] <berryciderspider> where are the apache error logs?
[12:35] <rileyp> and 0.24 fixes
[12:36] <rileyp> and that aint happening tonight!
[12:36] <rodrigograca31> flipper88_fl: AWS offers 1 year free "VPS" ....
[12:36] <genial> berryciderspider: /var/log/apache2/error.log
[12:36] <flipper88_fl> rodrigograca31: I know but I had my heart set on urpad.net
[12:36] <berryciderspider>  thanks
[12:37] <rileyp> saiarcot895:  thanks
[12:37] <rodrigograca31> flipper88_fl: lol, ok... i need to go
[12:38] <berryciderspider> how do I configure my apache logs?
[12:38] <Ben64> rileyp: you should use 12.04, that way you can delay upgrading again until 2017
[12:39] <genial> berryciderspider: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/logs.html
[12:44] <Reliant> Hello
[12:45] <Reliant> I'm staring at "[ 2244.404019] nouveau E[    PDISP][0000:01:00.0] chid 2 mthd 0x0080 data 0x00000000 0x000b5080"  on my screen. It's a black screen, and I have 4 lines of that. everything seems hung
[12:46] <Reliant> there's just not much there to Google on
[12:47] <adamk> Reliant: You might want to try asking on #nouveau.
[12:47] <rileyp> ben64 i will be doing that
[12:47] <rileyp> now to install flash..
[12:47] <Reliant> what is nouveau?
[12:47] <adamk> Reliant: The video driver for your GPU.
[12:47] <Reliant> ahh
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Reliant: try blacklisting the nouveau driver
[12:47] <adamk> Reliant: Or, rather, the default driver for your GPU.  You could also use the nvidia driver, if you wanted.
[12:47] <saleem> ActionParsnip, i got the display issue on live seesion fixed but in a different way
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> saleem: cool
[12:48] <saleem> had to reinstall nvidia-current and restart lightdm
[12:48] <adamk> Reliant: If you blacklist nouveau, as ActionParsnip suggests, but do not install the nvidia proprietary driver, you will end up using the Xorg vesa driver, which will be quite slow.
[12:49] <Reliant> is all of this doable through the graphical UI?
[12:49] <Reliant> I know I saw the app for setting this. Trying to find it on the menu
[12:50] <Reliant> doesn't help that there's 2 different versions of "system settings", heh
[12:51] <alessand1o> exit
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> saleem: same difference
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | Reliant
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> Reliant: its set when grub loads, before the boot splash shows
[12:54] <Reliant> one of the things I saw on Google was that this is related to suspend mode. when I go to the "screensaver & lock" setting of the system settings, it's a blank page
[12:55] <dotcom420> Is it possible to create restore point in ubuntu just like in windows? In case, i mess with my kernel in future, i restore my old configuration with a single command or click?
[12:56] <ezra-s> dotcom420, you can use a backup tool, not a single click, but it will do the same
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> dotcom420: just run a full backup
[13:01] <tom_> hello everyone
[13:02] <dotcom420> ty
[13:04] <dotcom420> I have seen that wmv, real media files can't be played on ubuntu. Is it because of copyright?
[13:05] <ezra-s> dotcom420, or that appropiate codecs have not been installed, have you tried vlc?
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> dotcom420  maybe you need ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> dotcom420: install w32codecs and ubuntu-restricted-extras and it should play fine
[13:07] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:08] <magdur> guys how can i install my driver ? nvidia 525m
[13:09] <blazemore> magdur: Did you already try installing from the Additional Drivers tool?
 yes i try but nothing there is here
[13:10] <blazemore> magdur: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[13:11] <magdur> 12.04
 12.04
[13:12] <ezra-s> any tips on how to tell /etc/network/interfaces to not configure wlan0 if eth0 is up and with ip?
[13:12] <blazemore> magdur: Are you having any problems with the default driver?
[13:12] <ezra-s> as well as underlying wpa_supplicant and dhclient processes for that interface
[13:13] <blazemore> ezra-s: Isn't what you just said, the entire reason for network-manager's existance?
[13:13] <ezra-s> blazemore, if network-manager wasn't a piece of sh*t sometimes :)
[13:13] <magdur> no but i want top install Linux Display Driver <blazemore>
[13:14] <blazemore> magdur: Why do you think you need something other than what you have at the moment? It is working currently
[13:15] <magdur> i want to play game with linux,
[13:15] <magdur> i want to play game with linux, <blazemore>
[13:16] <wilee-nilee> magdur, You can tab complete nicks. ;)
[13:16] <rileyp> magdur yay
[13:17] <janne_> need some help over here ....
 yes what is the problem ?
[13:17] <janne_> i have tryed to get my wireless internet to work ...but i cant connenct whit it ..
[13:17] <rileyp>  janne_:)
[13:18] <ezra-s> blazemore, network-manager is incapable to configure 801.1x authentication in my eth0 that's why I can't use it, same with my wireless, vpnc does not work correctly unless I use it manually and out of network manager
[13:18] <rileyp> has it worked in past?
  are you sure key is correct ?,
[13:18] <janne_> not whit xubuntu or ubuntu
[13:19] <janne_> yes im sure
[13:19] <ezra-s> I'd be glad to use network-manager if it worked for something other than basic eth0 conf
[13:19] <rileyp> is the driver loading?
[13:20] <janne_> i have a ip number and all that ..what u meen driver loading? how do i see that ?
[13:20] <janne_> iḿ new at this
[13:20] <rileyp> janne_:  is the driver loading for the wifi device?
[13:20] <janne_> how do i see that ??
[13:21] <rileyp> janne_: dmesg |grep eth
[13:21] <wilee-nilee> janne_, Run lspci in the terminal and identify the wifi hardware and tell us what it is.
[13:21] <janne_> ok i try it and copy/paste here if its ok ?
[13:21] <rileyp> wil show ethernet devices
[13:22] <rileyp> pastebin or just 1 line of code
[13:22] <wilee-nilee> janne_, Yes should be a small amount of info.
[13:22] <wilee-nilee> janne_, Be sure to use nicks, you can tab complete them.
[13:22] <janne_> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82855PM Processor to I/O Controller (rev 03)
[13:22] <janne_> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82855PM Processor to AGP Controller (rev 03)
[13:22] <janne_> 00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01)
[13:22] <janne_> 00:1d.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01)
[13:22] <janne_> 00:1d.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01)
[13:22] <FloodBot1> janne_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:23] <janne_> 00:1d.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
[13:23] <k1l> janne_: use a pastebin
[13:23] <wilee-nilee> janne_, Just the wifi info not all of lspci
[13:24] <rileyp> janne_: so now           dmesg |grep eth  and show teh two lines one for eth0 and the other eth1 if you have wifi driver installed !
[13:24] <janne_> wait
[13:25] <rileyp> see my dmesg |grep eth      eth0: RTL8168b/8111b at 0xf800e000, bc:ae:c5:dc:5d:2b, XID 0c200000 IRQ 42 is a realteke and its mac address!
[13:25] <rileyp>  
[13:26] <rileyp> janne_:  is it a usb wifi device?
[13:27] <janne_> no
[13:27] <wilee-nilee> pastebin | janne_ run lspci and pastebin it
[13:28] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | janne_ run lspci and pastebin it
[13:28] <rileyp> janne_:  are we talking laptop or desktop with onboard wifi?
[13:28] <janne_> laptop
[13:28] <rileyp> ok make model will be faster
[13:29] <genial> what ubuntu version janne_?
[13:29] <janne_> this one is a old laptop ...and i have xubuntu 12.04
[13:30] <genial> looks like someone already has had issue with that specific NIC http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1822997 in 10.04 and 11.04 - they solved it by replacing the driver: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1805271&p=11053381#post11053381 - don't know if that still applies in 12.04 though
[13:30] <rileyp> it would be faster to type your make and model laptop into google with teh word wifi and the word ubuntu and se if a heap of stuff comes up else it will just work!
[13:30] <rileyp> *should!
[13:31] <genial> disregard what I wrote, saw now that it was rileyp's dmesg and not yours :<
[13:32]  * genial needs coffee
[13:33] <rileyp> janne_:   the dmesg output should give you 2 devices eth0 and eth1 if your wifi auto detects and driver loads. there will be multiple entries for both though. The wifi will almost always be eth1 and the wired one eth0
[13:34] <janne_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5951232/
[13:35] <napsc> janne_: try wlan instead of eth
[13:35] <janne_> in terminal??
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> janne_: sudo lshw -C network     will also tell you the chip
[13:36] <rileyp> janne that is your onboard hard wired ethernet port. Because we dont see Eth1  the driver isnt loading I would guess!
[13:37] <janne_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5951246/
[13:37] <rileyp> janne_: from a terminal sudo lshw -C network  and pastebin it please
[13:38] <janne_> just give link ....but here it is again
[13:38] <janne_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5951246/
[13:38] <rileyp> aldi laptop?
[13:40] <janne_> did u see link?
[13:40] <rileyp> janne: yes      have you set dns server to be IP of your Router?
[13:41] <wilee-nilee> janne_, Do you have an ethernet card?
[13:41] <janne_> have to check
[13:41] <janne_> wilee-nilee ..i use a old laptop
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> janne_: if you run:  sudoiwlist scan    do you see wireless networks?
[13:42] <janne_> wait
[13:42] <wilee-nilee> janne_, yes and does it have a card plugged in for wireless?
[13:42] <rileyp> janne_:  from your last paste it seem you have put in an ip address of 192.168.10.54 into the hardwired ethernet setting not the wireless !
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> wilee-nilee: probably due to it being seen as eth1
[13:43] <wilee-nilee> ActionParsnip, yeah, from what I see with that model you need a card.
[13:43] <guarnier> hello, I got a huge problem. after the last updates on my ubuntu 12.04 the SSD disk doesn't boot anymore. i ve tried to reinstall grub with bootrepair but no luck. any idea?
[13:43] <janne_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5951264/
[13:44] <wilee-nilee> guarnier, You have the url generated by that app to post?
[13:45] <janne_> rileyp ok
[13:46] <usr13> janne_: Looks like eth1 is your wifi device and you have a couple of APs in range.
[13:46] <rileyp> janne_:  your wireless device is eth1  so if you put your ip settings in that device it will help if  your network isnt autoconfig...
[13:47] <guarnier> wilee-nilee, which app? do you mean boot repair?
[13:47] <wilee-nilee> guarnier, Yes.
[13:47] <janne_> ok i try that ...thx for all help
[13:48] <rileyp> janne_:  you have ESSID:"Koti_BC5C" ESSID:"Koti_AAB4" two wireless netowrks you may be able to join!
[13:48] <wilee-nilee> guarnier, The bootinfo summary, you can run it by itself if you don't have it.
[13:48] <universal> how to install winrar from source tar.gz ? source is latest version 5 beta 8 released on 3rd August and repo version 4.xx something version
[13:48] <blazemore> universal: Is there a readme file included with the source?
[13:48] <Let> time cat < /dev/zero > /dev/hda  ||| what is "time cat" ?
[13:49] <janne_> rileyp...all whit password on them ..one is my own and the next is the neabers
[13:49] <rileyp> universal why not use unp
[13:49] <universal> blazemore: yes....but there is nothing in it
[13:49] <guarnier> wilee-nilee , how can I get the bootinfo if the disk doens't boot? how do I access a disk trhough a live cd? thanks
[13:49] <universal> rileyp: unp ?
[13:49] <blazemore> Let: Where did you get that command?
[13:50] <blazemore> Let: "time" times how long it takes a command to run (in this case the command is cat < /dev/zero > /dev/hda)
[13:50] <Let> its for shrade free space on disk only for wipe of free space
[13:50] <wilee-nilee> guarnier, From a live cd just run the bootinfo summary and post the url generated. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[13:50] <rileyp> sudo apt-get install unp then when you want to unzip something unp filename..... very easy  no brainer
[13:50] <universal> blazemore: its available here - http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm small 1.9 mb file, have a look at it
[13:50] <universal> please :)
[13:50] <blazemore> universal: No, you look at it
[13:50] <rileyp> universal:  sudo apt-get install unp then when you want to unzip something unp filename..... very easy  no brainer
[13:51] <Let> oh ok its time of work of porgram?
[13:51] <guarnier> wilee-nilee, ok I will try now
[13:51] <universal> !unp
[13:51] <blazemore> Let: yes, try it. Run this: time sleep 1
[13:51] <Let> http://nst.sourceforge.net/nst/docs/faq/ch12s02.html
[13:51] <wilee-nilee> guarnier, Cool that script is the most important part of that app for diagnosing.
[13:53] <Let> dd work faster but dd crash s
[13:53] <Let> crash fs
[13:53] <Pici> Let: that command will wipe the entire disk, not just the free space.
[13:53] <Let> why?
[13:54] <Let> oh ok wipe yes
[13:54] <blazemore> Let: Please don't just blindly run commands you found on the Internet without knowing what they do
[13:54] <Let> but wetalk about zero > hda
[13:54] <usr13> Let: What is it you are wanting to do?
[13:54] <usr13> Let: Probably should be sda
[13:55] <blazemore> Let: That command takes the contents of the file "/dev/zero" and writes it to the file "/dev/hda"
[13:55] <blazemore> Let: That's all it does.
[13:55] <usr13> Let: sudo fdisk -l   #Shows you your disks.
[13:55] <Let> I know
[13:55] <usr13> Let: So; What is it you are wanting to do?
[13:56] <Let> usr any disk
[13:56] <Let> I use gparted
[13:56] <Let> ot fstab/mtab
[13:56] <Let> or
[13:56] <Let> ok thx bb
[14:00] <guarnier> wilee-nilee, here is the url http://paste.ubuntu.com/5951317/
[14:02] <wilee-nilee> guarnier, Was this a computer that started with Windows 8 that you removed?
[14:03] <universal> wilee-nilee: how to install winrar from source ?
[14:03] <universal> wilee-nilee: there is nothing for how to install in its readme.txt file
[14:04] <guarnier> wilee-nilee, nope, I bought a SSD disk recently and install manually ubuntu and I let some space for eventually win 7 in the future
[14:04] <wilee-nilee> guarnier, Did you use gpt on purpose?
[14:05] <rileyp> universal:  why not just use unp?
[14:06] <wilee-nilee> guarnier, Anyway that script is key for you to get help, I know nothing about gpt, if you get no help here I would use the ubuntu forums by starting a thread and posting the script info.
[14:06] <guarnier> wilee-nilee, kind of. I read that it is better to use gpt and efi so I used it. if I can reach my data and back it up I can also reinstall everything, but I still don t get how a simple update brakes the entire boot
[14:06] <universal> guarnier: is there any considerable performance gain over hdd ? I'm thinking for a SSD too but doubt its cost to performance gains ratio...also I heard that there are privacy issues in respect of deleteing of files....like shred don't work effectively and deleted files can be recovered easily
[14:07] <geopsychic> LEAVE
[14:08] <wilee-nilee> guarnier, Well ubuntu does not really use gpt in general except in response to the new fast boot windows 8 release and apple dual booting, so it is a bit of a conundrum.
[14:08] <rileyp> universal: ssd is way faster
[14:08] <guarnier> universal, performance gain A LOT. for techinical things, I have no idea. the only thing is to check that your motherboard supports the SSD speed
[14:08] <universal> rileyp: I prefer rar over any other apps and besides does unp has file encrytion capabilities with header encrytion also ?
[14:08] <cloud> I was using the 'dd' command to write an iso to usb... and instead of /dev/sdb I used sda.. I ctrl+c'd it before it finished but it definitly deleted some important stuff
[14:09] <guarnier> wilee-nilee, is there a way to backup my data from this disk?
[14:09] <inerkick> is there any project management tool for ubuntu which helps for scrum methodology
[14:09] <wilee-nilee> guarnier, The live cd should have access to the partitions I would guess.
[14:09] <universal> guarnier: what ? so I'll have to check for my motherboard compatibility with the SSD ? I thought any SATA SSD will fit in any SATA HDD port and just work fine
[14:09] <pranjal710> hi, How do I make "history" as a sudo command
[14:10] <wilee-nilee> again I know nothing about gpt so just guessing
[14:10] <ikonia> pranjal710: what do you mean ?
[14:11] <guarnier> universal, it fits but I got a ssd with sata 3 and it is running at sata 2 speeds for a crappy samsung bus. if your mobo is quite new you can reach even more speed. anyway is still way faster than hdd
[14:12] <wilee-nilee> I have a SSD in my 5 year old toshiba laptop, runs like an olympic runner.
[14:12] <pranjal710> ikonia: I mean it should not be accessed as history, but to view history, users should type sudo history'
[14:12] <pranjal710> ikonia: that way only people with root access can view history
[14:13] <universal> guarnier: I'm seriously thinking about an SATA 3 SSD on my HP G6 1200TU notebook keeping aside its high price but still the only one issue bothering me is its file deletion mechanism
[14:14] <universal> wilee-nilee: what about shred function on ssd ?
[14:15] <universal> and will anyone guide me on how to installl rar from source ?
[14:16] <b2w> zbarimg ( zbarimg img.jpg)..i want to process the output of the command in braces with the command outside the brace. help me please...
[14:16] <universal> wilee-nilee: guarnier live session takes a lng time to be loaded into memory but once its loaded, it runs fast and smooth....ssd is faster and smoother or even better ?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> universal: why not just install the packages?
[14:18] <universal> ActionParsnip: yes but packages are version 4.xx something while source is of version 5 beta 8 released 3rd of August, thats why
[14:18] <b2w> zbarimg ( zbarimg img.jpg)..i want to process the output of the command in braces with the command outside the brace. help me please...
[14:21] <lokote_jones> Does Ubuntu have a certification track similar to Red Hat?
[14:21] <universal> guarnier: wilee-nilee which model of SSD would you suggest ?
[14:22] <b2w> i am using zbarimg command decode a image i want to decode an image thats stored inside the qrcode...that is.., first decode the image containing the imagename and then i  want to decode the data in the image...how to do it?
[14:22] <b2w> \join #bash
[14:25] <guarnier> universal, I got a samsung 840 pro, for what I can tell it is good, but i am not an expert on technical details of ssds
[14:25] <wilee-nilee> universal, None in particular I bought this one seems okay, I only looked for a modern version at the time fair in price. http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-256GB-2-5-Inch-9-5mm-CT256M4SSD2/dp/B004W2JL2A
[14:28] <dotcom420> Hello there. I just upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10, but still my problem exists. All i can see is a blank screen after logging in. I cannot see the top and below bars. I can open terminal using Ctrl + Alt + T.
[14:28] <blazemore> !eoc | dotcom420 upgrade to a supported version
[14:28] <blazemore> !eol | dotcom420
[14:28] <blazemore> "eoc" seriously I play too much Runescape
[14:29] <Foxandxss> Hey, what's a proper ftp server for ubuntu server?
[14:29] <blazemore> Foxandxss: proftpd is one
[14:29] <Foxandxss> I have been told that pureftpd has some pretty vulnerabilities
[14:29] <Foxandxss> let's me see it blazemore, thansk
[14:30] <dotcom420> blazemore:  Maybe the problem would still persist after upgrades. This problem happened only after i installed some packages like Audacity etc.
[14:30] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[14:30] <dotcom420> Can you see dmesg log and see what this problem is?
[14:31] <bhavesh> I want to test if my usb is bootable and I found this http://superuser.com/questions/395081/test-usb-booting-capabilities-with-qemu-under-linux I didn't understand it quite well, I just know that I have to install qemu and what command do I have to enter in terminal?
[14:31] <ShapeShifter499> is there a "visual iptables" tool? something that will show me what the current iptables rules are, like a map
[14:32] <henn> i'm getting an xorg error when i log into ubuntu. something about cannot start gnome-session=ubuntu?
[14:33] <willybilly0101> ShapeShifter499, iptables -L
[14:33] <ShapeShifter499> willybilly0101, I know that, I wanted something more visual...
[14:34] <dotcom420> blazemore: Here's my dmesg log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5951426/
[14:34] <dotcom420> Can you find out the problem?
[14:34] <henn> unable to launch "gnome-session --session=ubuntu" X session
[14:35] <willybilly0101> ShapeShifter499, it is visual, mp3's are usually auditive :)
[14:35] <blazemore> dotcom420: Why/how did you upgrade to 11.10?
[14:35] <blazemore> dotcom420: Upgrade to 12.04
[14:36] <mathnode> ShapeShifter499, turn on your webcam and watch yourself dance?
[14:36] <ShapeShifter499> mathnode, :/
[14:36] <universal> guarnier: what about SSHD ? Its performance in comparison to SSD ? from what co.'s propagate it sounds great for SSD performance with HDD space
[14:37] <saiarcot895> blazemore: I believe dotcom420 was on 11.04
[14:38] <dotcom420> saiarcot895: yes
[14:38] <blazemore> saiarcot895: he upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10
[14:38] <dotcom420> I typed "sudo apt-get upgrade" and i upgraded to 11.10
[14:38] <pranjal710> hi, I change my /etc/sudoers file and rebooted my pc, now when I do "sudo -i" , I get errors: http://pastebin.com/52BjhwSC , I am not able to edit the file again!! Can someone please help?
[14:39] <ikonia> pranjal710: how did you edit sudoers file
[14:39] <ikonia> pranjal710: please tell me "visudo"
[14:39] <ikonia> pranjal710: as the line comment at the top of the file tells you to do
[14:39] <willybilly0101> probably no :)
[14:40] <willybilly0101> pranjal710, if you fucked it just reboot to a live cd, mount the filesystem and repair the file from there
[14:40] <pranjal710> I added a command to the sudoers command "appuser ALL = (root) history" , and I made the error of not changing appuser to root
[14:40] <ikonia> willybilly0101: that langauge is uncalled for
[14:40] <ikonia> willybilly0101: if you can't help without swearing - don't
[14:40] <ikonia> pranjal710: did you edit using "visudo"
[14:41] <bibi23> hi, I have a printer for tickets, which is connected to my laptop with an USB cable, I'd like to send commands to print data, how can I do this?
[14:41] <pranjal710> ikonia : no, sudo nano /etc/sudoers
[14:41] <willybilly0101> pranjal710, if you borked it just reboot to a live cd, mount the filesystem and repair the file from there
[14:41] <ikonia> pranjal710: ok, did you not read the warning in the file that says "This file must be edited with the 'visudo' command." ?
[14:42] <ikonia> pranjal710: you did read the file before editing it ?
[14:42] <willybilly0101> it was obvious he didn't visudo. with visudo you can't mess it because it has syntax checking
[14:42] <ikonia> willybilly0101: yes, hence why I'm trying to point out to him the value of a.) not randomly doing things b.) reading the file c.) making backups
[14:42] <pranjal710> ikonia: I messed up, I first edited using visudo, then the file got locked, so I used a different editor!!
[14:42] <scauri88> hi, can i use an ubuntu live on a mac without damage it?
[14:42] <ikonia> pranjal710: the file didn't get locked
[14:42] <blazemore> scauri88: yes
[14:43] <ikonia> pranjal710: the truth is you'll need to boot from a live media as willybilly0101 has suggested and fix the file
[14:43] <willybilly0101> pranjal710, if editor was the problem (vi) you can use another one changhing EXPORT variable
[14:43] <pranjal710> ikonia: I read over the net, that it creates a tmp file, so just remove it and you are good to go, I removed it, but still it showed the same !! so instead i  used a different editor
[14:43] <scauri88> blazemore: i've already tried it on windows, is it the same on mac? or i have to pay attention on something different?
[14:43] <willybilly0101> some people avoid visudo because of vi
[14:43] <ikonia> pranjal710: thats just crazy
[14:43] <ikonia> pranjal710: however it doesn't change the solution
[14:44] <pranjal710> Can, I copy the file from a different machine and just cp it to my machine?
[14:44] <ikonia> pranjal710: no
[14:44] <ikonia> pranjal710: you "undo" the changes you have done
[14:44] <blazemore> scauri88: "i've already tried it on windows" what do you mean? ubuntu is an operating system that doesn't require or need to know about Windows, OSX etc
[14:44] <pranjal710> how do I undo it?
[14:44] <ikonia> pranjal710: you boot a livecd / media, edit the file and put it back to how it was
[14:45] <pranjal710> ikonia:  What steps should i follow after i put the live cd?
[14:45] <pranjal710> mine is 12.04
[14:45] <scauri88> blazemore: ok, i wanted to say that i tried it on a pc boutght with windows
[14:45] <willybilly0101> my god
[14:45] <ikonia> pranjal710: boot the livecd, mount your hard disk, then edit the file on the hard disk
[14:45] <willybilly0101> boot, mount, replace/edit file
[14:45] <blazemore> scauri88: OK I see. You won't break anything by trying it with a LiveCD
[14:45] <blazemore> scauri88: What Mac do you have?
[14:46] <glenn> hi
[14:46] <glenn> some her
[14:46] <dotcom420> How do i reset ubuntu windows manager settings?
[14:46] <pranjal710> ikonia: ok, thanks
[14:47] <glenn> ubuntu boot in grub bash how can i make that grub is starteed
[14:47] <scauri88> blazemore: macbook with intel core due duo
[14:47] <Xethron> Greetings
[14:47] <glenn> ubuntu boot in grub bach why ?
[14:47] <Ironsight> scauri88: As far as I know, you can't install linux on mac other than with a virtual machine, I could be wrong.
[14:48] <ikonia> glenn can you try to explain clearly the problem
[14:48] <glenn> ubuntu boot in grub bash why ?
[14:48] <scauri88> Ironsight: i wanted only to try a live.. can i do it?
[14:48] <anddam> scauri88: where's your nick from?
[14:48] <Ironsight> I don't think it will boot scauri88
[14:48] <scauri88> anddam: italy
[14:48] <glenn> why boot ubuntu in bash
[14:48] <anddam> I see, low part of Latium
[14:49] <anddam> I've been coming there on vacation for years
[14:49] <anddam> nice
[14:49] <Ironsight> scauri88: you could try fiddling around with bootcamp, but I think bootcamp is made specifically for windows...
[14:50] <glenn> why boot ubuntu in grub bash
[14:51] <anddam> back to *buntu, is there a proper way to assign an user an "administrator" status? I'm thinking about polkit and so. The rationale is I installed this system with an admin account for me and an unprivileged account, now since my nephew has grown up I'd like to promote his user to administrator and let him happily destroy his system
[14:51] <blazemore> !sudo | anddam
[14:51] <anddam> sudoers, I know
[14:51] <glenn> ho can help me
[14:52] <blazemore> OK good cos that's the answer anddam :)
[14:52] <blazemore> glenn: nobody because you asked: "glenn: why boot ubuntu in grub bash"
[14:52] <anddam> blazemore: it's using GNOME I thought there was some higher level magic than sudo (I'm not a GNOME user myself)
[14:52] <glenn> can't boot in grub it boots in grub bash
[14:53] <blazemore> anddam: Nope, the window manager can't override security to elevate a user to give them administrative privileges
[14:53] <anddam> blazemore: so I'm guessing when he is in Ubuntu Software Center and want to install a game, does the application rely on sudo in that case?
[14:53] <blazemore> !details | glenn
[14:53] <blazemore> anddam: Yes it does
[14:53] <anddam> blazemore: I'm not saying override security
[14:53] <anddam> ah, ok
[14:53] <anddam> thanks
[14:53] <blazemore> anddam: The Software Centre is a good example: a user who is in sudoers will be allowed to install software; a user who isn't, won't
[14:54] <glenn> ubottu after installing ubuntu 12.04 it boots in grub bash grub won't boot
[14:54] <glenn>  after installing ubuntu 12.04 it boots in grub bash grub won't boot
[14:54] <blazemore> anddam: The user will be prompted to enter their password as an additional security mechanism (they could have walked away and left their workstation signed in, for example)
[14:54] <anddam> blazemore: actually I set up policy kit for his users so he could install software without having to type his password, but I see your point
[14:54] <anddam> user*
[14:55] <blazemore> anddam: Sounds like you've got it pretty much sorted, is there any specific functionality you want which you don't currently have?
[14:56] <anddam> blazemore: nope, just killing time while the system is updating from 12.04
[14:56] <dyngnosis> Hey -- I met someone from #ubuntu at Hacker Jeopardy in the bar line at DefCon.  I said I'd come by and say hi.  Don't rememebr your name...
[14:56] <anddam> blazemore: I mean I asked for confirmation if there was something more than just whitelist his user in sudoers
[14:56] <glenn> i boot in grub bash not in full grub
[14:57] <anddam> blazemore: I see there are both sudo and admin groups, I'l check docs about those
[14:57] <glenn> what is the commando to boot in full grub and not to boot in grub bash
[14:57] <anddam> btw, what is grub bash?
[14:59] <glenn> minimum grub
[14:59] <k1l> dyngnosis: we have a offtopic channel for regular chat. maybe you have more luck there: #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:59] <blazemore> !details | glenn this is the last time
[14:59] <glenn> i've problem with booting ubuntu it won't boot
[15:00] <dyngnosis> k1l: Thanks I'll drop in there and try again.  Do you mind if I try one or twice again throught the day here?  (every two or three hours)
[15:00] <blazemore> OK, what version of Ubuntu are you running? Has it ever worked? if so, when did it stop working? if not, have you tried reinstalling?
[15:00] <anddam> blazemore: there's need for a "how to ask questions the smart way" factoid
[15:00] <blazemore> glenn: ^
[15:01] <glenn> what blazemaore
[15:01] <blazemore> anddam: Unfortunately there is
[15:01] <dyngnosis> k1l: I certainly dont want to spam the chan but he specifically mentioned #ubuntu
[15:01] <blazemore> glenn: what version of Ubuntu are you running? Has it ever worked? if so, when did it stop working? if  not, have you tried reinstalling?
[15:01] <glenn> blazemore 12.04
[15:01] <anddam> just for sake of chatting I watched the ubuntu edge video on indiegogo, I doubt it will make the asked sum but I damn hope it will
[15:01] <anddam> effing awesome
[15:01] <blazemore> anddam: #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[15:02] <glenn> blazemore after reinstalling ubuntu he boor in min grub bash
[15:02] <blazemore> glenn: So you keep saying
[15:03] <glenn> what blazemore
[15:03] <anddam> blazemore: so an 'adduser foo sudo' is just what's needed
[15:03] <blazemore> anddam: useradd -G sudo foo
[15:04] <anddam> why useradd rather than adduser?
[15:04] <blazemore> anddam: assuming the "sudo" group has sudo rights, I don't actually use Ubuntu so don't know if this is the case
[15:04] <anddam> LOL
[15:04] <blazemore> anddam: I think they're identical on Ubuntu, the -G is what's important
[15:04] <Flannel> blazemore, anddam: NO.
[15:04] <blazemore> anddam: Flannel will tell you the ubuntu way to do it
[15:04] <anddam> Flannel: care to elaborate?
[15:04] <Flannel> blazemore, anddam: First off, that command will cause all sorts of problems because you forgot the -a, so it will set instead of append your groups.
[15:05] <anddam> it appended the groups, I just checked "id foo"
[15:05] <blazemore> Yes don't do that if the user "foo" already exists
[15:05] <Flannel> blazemore, anddam: Second, adduser is much more userfriendly and is what you want.  `adduser user group`  is the correct syntax.
[15:05] <Flannel> blazemore: NO
[15:05] <anddam> Flannel: oh you meant what blazemore suggested, I've already gone with "adduser user group"
[15:05] <Flannel> blazemore: That's not the correct reason why you don't do it.  You want -G group -a
[15:06] <blazemore> OK thanks Flannel
[15:06] <Flannel> anddam: right.  I'm trying to make sure you don't have to spend 10 minutes fixing your user.
[15:06] <Flannel> anddam: And, in Ubuntu, the group you want to add is "admin"
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> i use usermod too, sudo usermod -a -G groupname username
[15:06] <anddam> Flannel: and I appreciate that
[15:06] <blazemore> ActionParsnip: I was about to say usermod
[15:06] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: adduser is so much more friendly.
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: oh very much, both will work :)
[15:06] <blazemore> usermod --append --gid sudo foo
[15:07] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: so, suggest that instead!
[15:07] <Flannel> Why tempt fate with a forgotten -a?
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: if helpers post commands they can be copied and pasted, so no missed -a :)
[15:07] <glenn> i boot in grub bash how to boot in full grub
[15:08] <anddam> I just read a topic that was quoting release note from 11. to 12. and admin was the old group
[15:08] <anddam> let me check the page in browser history
[15:08] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: sure, but we try to teach good habits, which is adduser.  If you read the man pages, user* even says "Don't do this, use adduser instead"
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: not all distros have adduser, so it teaches transferable commands too
[15:09] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: Any distro of this decade has adduser.  This is #ubuntu, please don't be obtuse.
[15:09] <blazemore> I've always considered useradd "the" way to do it, and "adduser" was a shellscript wizard around it?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: not sure there dude
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: I believe its a debian thing
[15:09] <anddam> ActionParsnip: well, when in Rome...
[15:10] <blazemore> Next time I'll just tell them to edit /etc/group
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: one way :)
[15:10] <anddam> Flannel: first answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/43317/what-is-the-difference-between-the-sudo-and-admin-group
[15:10] <flipper88_fl> blazemore: That definately would fuck things upo
[15:10] <blazemore> flipper88_fl: How so, assuming no mistakes were made?
[15:11] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: You're more than welcome to break people's computers in #fedora, but in #ubuntu, please do it the proper way.  Thanks.
[15:11] <Flannel> anddam: Apparently it is.
[15:11] <anddam> that's the community spirit!
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: its not the proper way, its just a way
[15:11] <flipper88_fl> Becuse If alway been one to oplay it safe and use wrappers like useradd/adduser and usermod
[15:12] <gordonjcp> blazemore: editing /etc/group actually *isn't* that big a deal, in the same way that unscrewing the cover that says "NO USER SERVICEABLE PARTS INSIDE" isn't a big deal
[15:13] <gordonjcp> blazemore: it's okay for *you* to do it, because you're not a fat-headed blundering oaf and you accept that when you make things worse you've only got yourself to blame
[15:13] <blazemore> Thanks I guess gordonjcp
[15:13] <blazemore> gordonjcp: Sounds like you had a bad experience helping someone ;)
[15:15] <glenn> how can help me to let ubuntu boot And not in bash mode
[15:16] <Feldegast> glenn do you mean the gui not text login?
[15:16] <gordonjcp> blazemore: you get the idea
[15:16] <Feldegast> ....as oposed to something in grub
[15:16] <javier_> hi! login into ubuntu (12.10) always tried to mount a partition (/datos) unsuccesfully, because it doesn't exist (it exists under another directory, and mounts there with no problem). I have to press "S" command to continue. I would like it not to ask me everytime, but I can't find an answer to the problem googling it. How could I get rid of that message? Thanks!!!
[15:16] <gordonjcp> blazemore: you *shouldn't* manually fiddle around in there, but sometimes it will get you out of a hole
[15:17] <blazemore> !fstab | javier_ Delete the line containing the drive to be mounted from the file /etc/fstab
[15:17] <glenn> feldegast no he boots in grub minal bash
[15:17] <Feldegast> javier_ is it in /etc/fstab ?
[15:17] <Feldegast> glenn ouch
[15:17] <SuperLag> what is the name of the program that you run that waits for the keypress and tells you what key and keycode it is?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> SuperLag: xev
[15:18] <glenn> Wath ouch feldegast
[15:19]  * Feldegast has not had to handle grub minimal bash before sorry
[15:19] <javier_> Feldegast, I think there is (sorry, I couldn't find that file before).  But it is strange what I find there. I will pastebin it for you, if that's ok
[15:20] <spikespiegel> hows it going
[15:20] <javier_> Feldegast, http://pastebin.com/fWe1WceW
[15:21] <javier_> Feldegast, the thing is, /datos is the partition that finds the error, because it's not under that directory
[15:21] <Feldegast> javier_ ok
[15:21] <javier_> Feldegast, on the other hand, at the end, /mnt/datos is the right directory, and it mounts correctly just as I want
[15:22] <blazemore> javier_: Do you see the line that has "/dataos" in it?
[15:22] <javier_> Feldegast, so, what I would like, I guess, is to delete (or comment) the like with /datos, and it will still mount at /mnt/mount? am I right?
[15:22] <blazemore> javier_: "UUID=feb3f60b-29a4-4288-ad1b-089301fa8528 /datos"
[15:22] <javier_> blazemore, yes
[15:22] <blazemore> javier_: You are right, comment that line and it won't be automounted
[15:22] <ihre> maybe change the line then, from /datos, to /mnt/datos (line 20), javier_
[15:22] <spikespiegel> quick question, what is the difference between graphic drivers (version current) and (post-release updates) which usually works better?
[15:22] <javier_> blazemore, ok, I see. I wasn't clear if it would mount on /mnt/datos, because the line looks very different there
[15:23] <blazemore> spikespiegel: The post-release update version is newer (upstream version) - I'd recommend you try it and go to an older one if you have problems
[15:23] <spikespiegel> blazemore, thank you
[15:23] <spikespiegel> blazemore, thought it was weird, on reboot it automatically selected and installed the post release version
[15:25] <jhutchins> Generally we assume progress as newer versions are released, but sometimes they introduce new bugs.
[15:33] <snoopybbt> hello people!
[15:33] <Feldegast> hi
[15:33] <snoopybbt> i'm having troubles on my ubuntu desktop while configuring fetchmail to deliver mail into ~/.mail
[15:33] <snoopybbt> is ~/.mail a special dir ??
[15:34] <snoopybbt> because my ~/.mail belongs to my user and to my user's group
[15:34] <snoopybbt> and permissions are 644
[15:34] <snoopybbt> but i cannot cd into it
[15:34] <Feldegast> snoopybbt it is a hidden directory in our /home
[15:34] <R0b0t1> Hi, I added some commands to change the key mapping to startup. But when I suspend the computer they get "reset", how to make them persistent between suspensions?
[15:34] <snoopybbt> Feldegast: yeah, but why i cannot cd into it ??
[15:34] <blazemore> R0b0t1: What commands did you run?
[15:35] <blazemore> snoopybbt: You "cannot", do you get an error?
[15:35] <Feldegast> snoopybbt what command do you use?
[15:35] <snoopybbt> permission denied
[15:35] <snoopybbt> cd .mail
[15:35] <R0b0t1> blazemore: setxkbmap -option ctrl:nocaps and xcape -e "Control_L=Escape"
[15:35] <Feldegast> use cd ~/.mail
[15:36] <snoopybbt> lemme try
[15:36] <RickyS> #go-nuts
[15:36] <blazemore> R0b0t1: If you just want it to be on your user, you could put those commands into a bash script and use the Startup Applications program to run the script every time you log in
[15:36] <snoopybbt> if i cd into it i get permission denied
[15:36] <R0b0t1> blazemore: That is basically what I am doing, but the changes are not persistent within my session if I hibernate the computer.
[15:36] <snoopybbt> but if i do chmod 777 .mail i can cd into it
[15:37] <R0b0t1> uh oh
[15:37] <snoopybbt> that's strange, isn't it ??
[15:37] <genial> snoopybbt: directories should have 0755, not 0644
[15:37] <Feldegast> snoopybbt maybe u nedd to add yourself to the group?
[15:37] <blazemore> snoopybbt: What's the output of "ls -al ~/ | grep .mail" - if it's one line you can just paste it here
[15:37] <Generator_> hi, apt-get install mysql++ gives error [Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.] Please help.
[15:38] <jhutchins> snoopybbt: You need execute permissions to list the contents of a directory - and to change to it.
[15:38] <usr13> Generator_: sudo apt-get -f install
[15:38] <snoopybbt> moment
[15:38] <Feldegast> Generator_ can you run your package manager to fix?
[15:39] <Generator_> Feldegast : i m using cui no gui
[15:39] <Generator_> usr13: -f didnot work same error
[15:39] <Feldegast> sudo apt-get -f install ?
[15:39] <Generator_> same error
[15:39] <snoopybbt> blazemore: drw-------  4 manu manu     4096 ago  5 17:12 .mail
[15:39] <snoopybbt> blazemore: but i've been messing with permissions
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Generator_: is the package from a PPA?
[15:40] <snoopybbt> jhutchins: why do i need execution permission to list files inside a directory ?
[15:40] <usr13> Generator_: Can you post the complete error, (pastebinit)?
[15:40] <genial> snoopybbtp: http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/21263 this explains everythign
[15:40] <snoopybbt> jhutchins: shouldn't i only need read permission ?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> snoopybbt: because you double click the folder to access it
[15:40] <Generator_> usr13: ok
[15:40] <snoopybbt> i'll read it, Generator_
[15:40] <snoopybbt> ActionParsnip: no trolling, please.
[15:40] <usr13> Generator_: Answer ActionParsnip's question;  Is the package from a PPA?
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> snoopybbt: its how I remember it
[15:41] <Generator_> usr13: I dnt knw
[15:41] <jhutchins> snoopybbt: Because that's how it works.
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> Generator_: what is the output of:  apt-cache policy mysql++
[15:42] <Generator_> let me see
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> snoopybbt: why or how am I trolling?
[15:42] <snoopybbt> genial: uh, unix permissions is actually more complicated than i thought
[15:42] <Generator_> ActionParsnip: installed none...
[15:42] <snoopybbt> vidi tie
[15:43] <Generator_> i am using ssh connection to my ubuntu vm ... so paste command is not working. I think so.
[15:44] <jhutchins> Since when does paste not work over ssh?
[15:44] <blazemore> snoopybbt: It's not complicated. The execute bit doesn't make sense for a directory to be "executed", so it's used to set execute permissions on directories
[15:45] <Guest29721> hi
[15:45] <blazemore> jhutchins: since what you just said doesn't make sense
[15:45] <blazemore> jhutchins: What are you trying to do?
[15:45] <usr13> !info pastebinit | Generator_
[15:45] <javier_> thanks!!!
[15:46] <usr13> Generator_: apt-cache policy mysql++ | pastebinit   #And send resulting URL
[15:46] <usr13> Generator_: Not sure why using an ssh connection would matter. Do you know how to Copy & Paste?
[15:47] <Generator_> Ok
[15:47] <Generator_> wait
[15:47] <usr13> Generator_: (But if pastebinit is installed, you can just use the above command.)
[15:47] <Generator_> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5951674/
[15:50] <usr13> Generator_: In Linux, you can just highlight text and then hit the middle mouse button to dump from clipboard.  Alternate method; From a terminal you can highlight text, do Shift-Ctrl-c to Copy and Shift-Ctrl-v to Paste.
[15:51] <Generator_> usr13: I gave the pastebin output.
[15:51] <Generator_> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5951674/
[15:52] <usr13> Shift-Ctrl-c to Copy and Shift-Ctrl-v to Paste (from terminal to terminal, just Ctrl-v to other GUI fields).  Sorry, was a netsplit, show us again.
[15:53] <Generator_> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5951674/
[15:54] <usr13> Generator_: Maybe just do;  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade    first.
[15:55] <blazemore> Generator_: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install
[15:55] <usr13> Generator_: Or yes, as blazemore suggests, you could try that....
[15:55] <Generator_> blazemore: no effect of -f
[15:56] <usr13> Generator_: Show us the error.
[15:56] <blazemore> Generator_: OK, sorry if you've already said this, but what exact error do you get when you're trying to do whatever you're doing?
[15:56] <usr13> Generator_: sudo apt-get -f install | pastebinit  #Send URL
[15:57] <ElFizbanio> has anyone compiled enet 1.3.8 before?
[15:57] <blazemore> !anyone | ElFizbanio
[15:57] <Generator_> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5951703/
[15:57] <ElFizbanio> what
[15:58] <blazemore> ElFizbanio: Ask your real question :)
[15:58] <Feldegast> ElFizbanio asume YES and ask the next question
[15:58] <ThePieMan> ongaku, The sousaphone is a brass instrument, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sousaphone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuba
[15:58] <blazemore> Thanks ThePieMan
[15:58] <usr13> Generator_:   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade    | pastebinit
[15:59] <ongaku> I already know that
[15:59] <ThePieMan> blazemore, yw
[15:59] <metaphysician> Is there a tool for mirroring deb repository and has ability to resume partially downloaded .deb files? apt-mirror doesn't resume partial download.
[15:59] <dark_lord>  Hello, I have a basic doubt. I am doing documentation of my project. but I am not able to format it. Mine one is https://github.com/h201001039/wiselib/tree/master/apps/generic_apps/sd_fat . I want to do it like https://github.com/500px/api-documentation . I am using gedit for writing in readme.md
[15:59] <Generator_> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5951718/
[15:59] <ElFizbanio> what was the command that stopped you from being root?
[15:59] <blazemore> dark_lord: Not an Ubuntu support question, but read this: https://github.com/github/markup
[16:00] <blazemore> ElFizbanio: Ctrl D [or exit] will drop you out of a shell
[16:00] <ThePieMan> Hello, getting "DUP!" / Duplicate Packages in ping sometimes, (as of "man ping") any idea why?
[16:00] <pranjal710> hi, Can  I know the way to add any command into my sudo command, say I want to do so for history, so that only users with root privileges can see the history?
[16:00] <gordonjcp> ThePieMan: have you got anything particularly strange with your network?
[16:01] <usr13> Generator_: cat /etc/issue    #What does that say?
[16:01] <pranjal710> PS: I just recovered from messing up my /etc/sudoers file
[16:01] <gordonjcp> hangthedj: does the music they constantly play say nothing to you about your life?
[16:01] <blazemore> usr13: He's on quantal
[16:01] <Generator_> usr13: Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[16:01] <ThePieMan> gordonjcp, what do you actually refer by "strange" ?
[16:01] <blazemore> Wait what
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> pranjal710: you can add commands as you desire, users should be able to view their own history (or was that just as an example)
[16:02] <pranjal710> ActionParsnip: Users only with sudo right can view history
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> pranjal710: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers  explains aliases and groups etc
[16:03] <mastro> I'm trying to boot Ubuntu 13.04 on my new laptop, Lenovo Y500 with SSD, both with secure booting enabled and disabled: try ubuntu: black screen... it boot, but screen stay black. Replacing quite splash with nomodeset great me with a text clubbered and unreadable (the console is duplicated into three places using only the top of the screen)
[16:03] <mastro> any help?
[16:03] <usr13> Generator_: df | pastebinit
[16:04] <blazemore> mastro: It's convoluted, but take a look at the first answer here http://askubuntu.com/questions/272570/unable-to-install-ubuntu-on-lenovo-y500
[16:04] <Generator_> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5951735/
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> pranjal710: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5951734/    I have 2 commands added, sudoers can run shutdown and fullupgrade without password, you can use similar stuff
[16:05] <blazemore> ActionParsnip: Can you please give Generator_ your script to fix packages?
[16:05] <chaby> hello
[16:05] <chaby> whats up
[16:05] <icelite> hello chaby
[16:05] <chaby> hello icelite
[16:06] <chaby> where r ru from?
[16:06] <dwarder> sun is up
[16:06] <icelite> where are you from :P ?
[16:06] <icelite> US
[16:06] <oxsyn> I've got a laptop where the OS is located on an LVM encrypted drive that's automatically decrypted and mounted on boot.  I have a second drive that's partitioned with LVM and also encrypted with dm-crypt/luks that I'd like to automatically mount to /srv.  I have some ideas how to do it, but wonder if anyone has any recommendations or links to a recommended method?
[16:06] <icelite> u.
[16:06] <icelite> you?
[16:06] <icelite> chaby,  ?
[16:06] <blazemore> !ot | icelite chaby
[16:06] <icelite> nooo
[16:06] <icelite> :P
[16:06] <ThePieMan> looks like got some info on it, thanks for not helping though :), source: http://www.unix.com/red-hat/168414-ping-error-dup.html
[16:06] <mastro> blazemore, I was already reading that
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> Generator_: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/fixpackage
[16:06] <blazemore> ThePieMan: Did you seriously just make a butthurt comment about people not helping you?
[16:07] <Generator_> ActionParsnip: thank u
[16:07] <usr13> Generator_: sudo apt-get upgrade linux-headers* linux-image* | pastebinit  #Send URL
[16:07] <ElFizbanio> while installing Lua 5.1 on 12.04 is it okay to use make generic? generic being the PLATFORM
[16:08] <ThePieMan> blazemore, you got me wrong, i was just being funny! get some sense of humour!
[16:08] <Generator_> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5951748/
[16:08] <blazemore> ThePieMan: OK, don't forget I have no body-language or tone-of-voice context to go from, only UTF-8
[16:08] <pranjal710> ActionParsnip: But, what you did makes sudoers not enter a password, basically you created an alias, others can use the command "/sbin/shutdown". What I want is to change history from "history" to "sudo history"
[16:09] <usr13> Generator_: Try what ActionParsnip suggested.
[16:09] <pranjal710> ActionParsnip: Basically I want the command "history" which can be accessed by any member, to be shifted to sudo command
[16:09] <ThePieMan> blazemore, that one is terrible reply, let it be though :)
[16:09] <blazemore> pranjal710: Why don't you want people to be able to see their history?
[16:09] <Generator_> usr13: OK
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> pranjal710: you can use groups, like the apt-get group I used there, to control who can run what etc
[16:09] <pranjal710> blazemore: I want to know :P
[16:10] <icelite> hey all so my friend is quite upet with why he cant boot ubuntu
[16:10] <icelite> he goes to the login screen and enters his password and then a Black Screen appears
[16:11] <icelite> why is this?
[16:11] <icelite> he's a newbie and Ubuntu installed fine off his USB
[16:11] <k1l> icelite: does the guest account boot fine?
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> icelite: which release?
[16:11] <icelite> well
[16:11] <icelite> Not sure
[16:11] <icelite> He tried a bunch
[16:11] <icelite> 13.04
[16:12] <pranjal710> icelite: Does he have ATI graphics card?
[16:12] <mastro> blazemore, I did what it say and linux boot .. I was missing the resolution setting.. It now boot and I can see the console, but it fail to open X. no screens found
[16:12] <icelite> pranjal710,  not sure
[16:12] <icelite> no wait
[16:12] <icelite> NVIDIA FX 5200
[16:13] <mastro> blazemore, or, better: screens found but non have usable configuration
[16:13] <ThePieMan> blazemore, i have seen you in launchpad before!
[16:13] <pranjal710> icelite: I found this for ATI: http://askubuntu.com/questions/297112/black-screen-after-login-with-cursor maybe you should get an updated driver
[16:14] <icelite> thanks pranjal710
[16:14] <icelite> but he has a NVIIDa so hm
[16:15] <ThePieMan> icelite, after login or while booting?
[16:16] <ElFizbanio> about this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1597945 is there a solution?
[16:16] <pranjal710> icelite: for Nvidia GeForce FX 5200, it doesn't say whether it worked or not, give it a shot : http://askubuntu.com/questions/244397/black-screen-after-login
[16:16] <k1l> icelite: its quite important to know if your ubuntu boots the guest login
[16:16] <brandon__> hi there I'm new here and was curious is there was a linux xbmc channel to join for support?
[16:16] <k1l> !alis | brandon__
[16:17] <k1l> icelite: if guest account works its a users-settings fault. if not its a systemwide problem. so please check that first
[16:17] <icelite> oh
[16:17] <icelite> Im not sure
[16:17] <ghostnik11> hi i have a usb portable hard drive 500 gb that won't appear when i plug it in, if i go to "disk" it shows the hard drive but doesn't show any information and doesn't show the size
[16:17] <icelite> k1l could he reinstall Ubuntu?
[16:17] <icelite> k1l,
[16:18] <hydrian> Ello all.  I have odd question.  Does anybody know if there is an deb package for rpmlint for ubuntu?
[16:18] <k1l> icelite: we dont know what is causing the problem. so there is no guarantee that a reinstall will solve it.
[16:18] <usr13> ghostnik11: sudo fdisk -l  | pastebinit
[16:18] <W3ird_N3rd> I'm trying to set up an NFS-server on 13.04 but.. it just won't work. No error, no nothing, just nothing happens when I try to mount something
[16:18] <ghostnik11> usr13: doing that right now, one sec
[16:18] <icelite> oh
[16:19] <k1l> hydrian: see http://pkgs.org/download/rpmlint
[16:19] <flipper88_fl> icelite: Sounds like an rm-rf $HOME/.dmrc
[16:20] <ghostnik11> usr13: here is pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/5951790/
[16:20] <icelite> flipper88_fl,  I don't think he did that xD
[16:20] <k1l> flipper88_fl: i would wait for some more info before deleting anything
[16:20] <hydrian> k1l: No luck.  RPM packages only
[16:21] <k1l> hydrian: best way is to ask the rpmlint guys, imho
[16:22] <[Raiden]> k1l: backup before del...
[16:22] <[Raiden]> )
[16:22] <usr13> ghostnik11: So what kind of drive is it?
[16:22] <ghostnik11> usr13: its a usb portable hdd and its 500gb
[16:23] <Feldegast> ghostnik11 more info?
[16:24] <ghostnik11> Feldegast: well i got this 500gb western digital hd and it shows up when i check disk, wait will post a imagebin of the shot
[16:24] <usr13> ElFizbanio: What are you trying to install?
[16:25] <ElFizbanio> iceball
[16:25] <ElFizbanio> with a webpage of iceballga.me
[16:25] <streulma> I have problems with fancontrol on Ubuntu on Macbook Pro 10.1
[16:25] <streulma> can someone help me?
[16:25] <W3ird_N3rd> and where is portmap? all guides keep talking about portmap, that doesn't even exist
[16:25] <ElFizbanio> usr13, I'll just bug the creator until he succumbs and helps me to build the thing
[16:26] <OerHeks> streulma, did you follow the macpages and added the PPA with fancontrol?
[16:26] <streulma> OerHeks: yes
[16:26] <usr13> ElFizbanio: iceball-0.1.2.zip ?
[16:26] <ElFizbanio> that's for windows
[16:27] <titi_> why use IRC over XMPP ?
[16:27] <OerHeks> streulma, so what is the issue?
[16:27] <teeceepee> is there a way to show running thread giving a process id
[16:27] <teeceepee> ?
[16:27] <Lcawte> Hi, I have a VPS running 12.04, and I was wondering if I can get some help with ip routes, at the moment I'm using a command everytime the server reboots to add the route (ip route add 10.33.252.0/24 via 10.33.252.76) but I need to add the route into whatever config so its permenant. I read somewhere it is something to do with /etc/network/interfaces, mine is http://pastebin.com/0usYa7WG. Ideas?
[16:27] <usr13> ElFizbanio: SO what  did you download?
[16:28] <sinkensabe> anyone running ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS and got redshift working? It just crashed on startup and I cant find a solution
[16:28] <Feldegast> teeceepee htop ?
[16:28] <ghostnik11> Feldegast: usr13: here is image bin http://imagebin.org/266619
[16:28] <teeceepee> Feldegast htop <process_id> ?
[16:28] <blah> can somebody help me installing ubuntu on a windows 8 oem? I have tried using wubi to install it and this is what I get after wubi downloads the image and reboots: File: \ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr State: 0xc000007b Information: Could not load application or Operating System because of the lack of the required file or errors in this file
[16:28] <streulma> OerHeks: it's overheating
[16:28] <Feldegast> teeceepee no htop shows processes like a task manager
[16:29] <OerHeks> blah wibi does not work on windows 8
[16:29] <usr13> ghostnik11: It says "no media"
[16:29] <blah> at all?
[16:29] <ghostnik11> usr13: yeah i don't understand why?
[16:29] <Aquaword> hi, how to play such kind of radios like .. http://live.primefmradio.dj:8000/live ?
[16:30] <usr13> ghostnik11: So what kind of drive is it?
[16:30] <blah> Oerheks it doesn't work at all?
[16:30] <Aquaword> vlc and clementine doesnt play it
[16:30] <ghostnik11> usr13: Feldegast: here is the lsusb output http://paste.ubuntu.com/5951806/
[16:30] <Aquaword> can you recommend one player?
[16:30] <Feldegast> ghostnik11 is it partitioned?
[16:30] <OerHeks> blah yes, wubi does not work on windows 8, and will be depreciated
[16:30] <blah> but there is so much documentation on it online
[16:30] <Lcawte> Aquaword: When I visit that page I get "The file you requested could not be found"
[16:31] <ghostnik11> usr13: also i don't understand why it says usb to ata/atapi bridge
[16:31] <blah> oh okay..so I should just stop trying
[16:31] <Aquaword> Lcawte, hm
[16:31] <ThePieMan> will any update will be provided for Blender in Software Centre? that is already outdated!
[16:31] <ghostnik11> Feldegast: i can't partition it, and i don't know.  i know there is files on it and i want to save those files before i format it, if thats possible
[16:31] <usr13> ghostnik11: So what kind of drive is it? (The image indicates some sort of optical drive.)  What does lsusb say about it?
[16:31] <Aquaword> Lcawte, thx
[16:31] <Feldegast> ghostnik11 usb to ata/atapi bridge is the hardware the drive connects to within the case
[16:31] <W3ird_N3rd> /etc/default/rpcbind doesn't even exist
[16:31] <OerHeks> streulma, i am not sure what to do now, are there bugreports known to your machine?
[16:32] <ghostnik11> Feldegast: lsusb says this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5951806/
[16:32] <ElFizbanio> usr13: the github repo
[16:32] <pranjal710> do I need to reboot after making changes to /etc/sudoers?
[16:32] <anddam> pranjal710: you don't
[16:32] <ghostnik11> usr13: yeah i don't understand why it looks like an optical drive when its a hard disk drive
[16:32] <Lcawte> Hi, I have a VPS running 12.04, and I was wondering if I can get some help with ip routes, at the moment I'm using a command everytime the server reboots to add the route (ip route add 10.33.252.0/24 via 10.33.252.76) but I need to add the route into whatever config so its permenant. I read somewhere it is something to do with /etc/network/interfaces, mine is http://pastebin.com/0usYa7WG. Ideas?
[16:32] <icelite> pr respond
[16:32] <icelite> pranjal710,
[16:32] <icelite> pranjal710,  I sent ua message
[16:33] <usr13> ElFizbanio: Did you uncompress the file you downloaded?
[16:33] <ghostnik11> usr13: Feldegast: its the first one in the lsusb output, i will check in media and see if its there
[16:33] <ElFizbanio> usr13, of course I did
[16:33] <usr13> ElFizbanio: ls
[16:33] <usr13> pastebinit
[16:33] <teeceepee> Feldegast thanks brilliant
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> Lcawte: add the command to add them back in, in  /etc/rc.local   above the 'exit 0' line
[16:34] <Feldegast> teeceepee np
[16:34] <ThePieMan> Hello, I have a question, can Ubuntu can be used with any Pen Tablet? without installing Drivers?
[16:34] <ElFizbanio> usr13, http://pastebin.com/QaiuLhGg
[16:34] <ghostnik11> Feldegast: usr13: here is where i think the it is Bus 001 Device 004: ID 152d:2329 JMicron Technology Corp. / JMicron USA Technology Corp. JM20329 SATA Bridge
[16:34] <Lcawte> ActionParsnip: What's rc.local?
[16:35] <Feldegast> ghostnik11 that looks like it
[16:35] <usr13> ElFizbanio: pastebinit README.txt
[16:35] <Feldegast> ghostnik11 what OS did you put the files onto the drive with?
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> Lcawte: its a file that is ran just before the DM loads and is ran by root
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> Lcawte: if you add long commands there then add an ampersand to background it or the boot will hang, but route adding is super quick
[16:37] <ghostnik11> Feldegast: it was windows 7 that i got the files put on and in windows when i try to have it brought up it says i have to put a mbr or guip on it as in windows its not assigned a drive letter
[16:37] <Lcawte> ActionParsnip: Does that method work on servers as well?
[16:38] <Feldegast> ghostnik11 doesn't sound good
[16:38] <ElFizbanio> usr13, http://pastebin.com/B18CeUmV
[16:38] <ghostnik11> Feldegast: wha is it looking like
[16:38] <Feldegast> ghostnik11 you might be able to try data recovery software
[16:39] <usr13> ElFizbanio:  ./iceball
[16:39] <Feldegast> ghostnik11 it sounds like something damaged the data on the drive somehow
[16:39] <usr13> ElFizbanio: (Did you do that?)
[16:39] <Feldegast> ghostnik11 causing it to not be read properly
[16:39] <sanav> is their any way of dualboot ubuntu 13.04 32 bit with windows 8 on UEFI supported ultrabook ?
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Lcawte: works on any *nix box
[16:40] <ElFizbanio> usr13, no such file or directory
[16:40] <usr13> ElFizbanio: pwd
[16:40] <ghostnik11> Feldegast: okay how can i get past that and get the files
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Lcawte: sudo nano /etc/rc.local      will give you write access
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> Lcawte: or whichever editor you prefer
[16:41] <ElFizbanio> I am at the right place usr13
[16:41] <usr13> ElFizbanio: ls -R |pastebinit
[16:41] <Feldegast> ghostnik11 no garantees, you need to find some data recovery software and hope they can recover something, or pay to have the data recovered
[16:42] <ghostnik11> Feldegast: okay are their any in linux or ubuntu
[16:43] <Feldegast> ghostnik11 i have used some from ultimatebootcd but not for years now (not the one with the windows gui)
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> ghostnik11: foremost and scalpel are good, i suggest you look into a backup system for the future
[16:43] <Feldegast> ghostnik11 how effective they are depends on the exact issue, also they can make data recovery harder if used wrong
[16:44] <usr13> !undelete | ghostnik11
[16:44] <ElFizbanio> usr13 http://pastebin.com/A4fbQmah
[16:45] <Feldegast> ghostnik11 i am thinking the partition was ntfs?
[16:45] <usr13> ElFizbanio: cd pkg/
[16:45] <ghostnik11> usr13: Feldegast: ActionParsnip: here is this new output as i plug it out and then plugged it in and then ran a command to see it after plugging it back in http://paste.ubuntu.com/5951886/
[16:46] <ElFizbanio> usr13, it has three folders: base, iceball, maps
[16:47] <ghostnik11> Feldegast: usr13: ActionParsnip: i ran this command tail -f /var/log/syslog
[16:47] <Feldegast> ghostnik11 sdb: unknown partition table <- is the issue
[16:48] <Feldegast> ghostnik11 this is what i suspected
[16:49] <ghostnik11> Feldegast: will try with gparted to fix partition table
[16:49] <usr13> ElFizbanio: cd ../ ; make
[16:50] <mastro> can someone help boot a lenovo y500 into ubuntu? it fail to start X ... no screens found
[16:50] <flux242> do you know any good color schemes for the terminal and also .dircolors?
[16:50] <flux242> except solorize
[16:50] <flux242> solarized
[16:51] <Feldegast> ghostnik11 that could make it harder to recover data
[16:51] <ghostnik11> Feldegast: actually i don't even see it in gparted
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> flux242: green on black
[16:51] <Feldegast> ghostnik11 is the drive clicking?
[16:52] <ElFizbanio> usr13, http://pastebin.com/9bqfzHfN
[16:52] <flux242> ActionParsnip: an attempt at humor I suppose?
[16:53] <Feldegast> ghostnik11 if the drive is clicking your only 2 options are a freezer....maybe and data recovery replacing the pcb
[16:53] <ghostnik11> Feldegast: no it spins and has power light on
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> flux242: thats a good colour scheme...imho
[16:53] <flux242> ActionParsnip: on you grave stone
[16:54] <Feldegast> ghostnik11 try the data recovery links mentioned earlier.....maybe you will be lucky
[16:54] <ghostnik11> Feldegast: was going to try testdisk
[16:55] <mastro> this is the error I get in Xorg.0.log: vesa v bios address 0x0 out of range
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> flux242: no accounting for taste
[16:55] <the536> how debug if nautilus doesn't do anything when I try to open a file?
[16:56] <the536> (i.e. i want to see error messages if any why it isn't launching editor to display the .tex file)
[16:56] <Feldegast> ghostnik11 i do not know which recovery apps i would use these days
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> the536: run nautilus from a terminal
[16:57] <usr13> ElFizbanio: Sent the above error to the developer
[16:57] <ElFizbanio> he will tell me to go f myself
[16:59] <usr13> ElFizbanio: "You probably need to install the lua development package.
[17:00] <the536> ActionParsnip: thanks...running from terminal did help a little....it seems Emacs works when I do NOT make it the default...it appears whatever is the "default" stops working then
[17:01] <ElFizbanio> usr13 that didn't work
[17:02] <usr13> ElFizbanio: What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[17:02] <atrus> trying to boot ubuntu 13.04 live usb on my laptop. acer aspire v5, intel i5 cpu, integrated hd4000 graphics. problem is that the laptop display is constantly black. extenal hdmi display seems to work. any thoughts?
[17:02] <ElFizbanio> 12.04
[17:02] <usr13> ElFizbanio: liblua5.1-0 - Shared library for the Lua interpreter version 5.1
[17:03] <krizoek> hi, im getting "The following packages have unmet dependencies:" libapache2-mod-php5 : Depends: php5-common (= 5.4.9-4ubuntu2.2) but 5.5.1+dfsg-1~raring+1 is to be installed" when i try "sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5" anyone know how to install php5?
[17:03] <ElFizbanio> I do have that package usr13
[17:03] <ahmed_> hi
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> atrus: try the boot option:   nomodeset
[17:03] <ahmed_> how can i install any software in ubuntu?
[17:03] <atrus> ActionParsnip: as a kernel parameter?
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> atrus: yes
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> ahmed_: use software centre
[17:04] <lawltoad> So I may behind on my ubuntu news as  I am running 12.04. I hear Unity2D is 'gone'. does that mean its missing from the default install or the repos as well. if it still in the repos, is it still undergoing development?
[17:04] <usr13> ElFizbanio: ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/info/liblua*list
[17:04] <the536> ActionParsnip: oh i see...your terminal idea was to reveal error messages..now i get it
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> the536: yes, the GUI is nice and all, but it hides the good stuff
[17:05] <lawltoad> I ask mostly because my preffered setup has been to disable unity3d and then use only the top bad from untiy-2d without the side stuff and dash
[17:05] <usr13> ElFizbanio: liblua5.1-0-dev - Development files for the Lua language version 5.1
[17:05] <the536> ActionParsnip: when I do the "Open With" (default editor) nothing happens and there is NO error message in terminal?!?! why silently dying?
[17:05] <ElFizbanio> I've got that and liblua5.1-0
[17:05] <ahmed_> ActionParsnip, thanks
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> the536: maybe the new thread doesnt output to the same terminal
[17:07] <atrus> ActionParsnip: well it display something. corrupt screen though.
[17:08] <atrus> ActionParsnip: it looks like X didn't start either.
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> atrus: try updating the video driver package
[17:08] <atrus> ActionParsnip: how can i do that on a live usb?
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> atrus: same as an installed OS....  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[17:09] <atrus> ActionParsnip: that's not going to help the corrupted-text that's outside of X though, is it?
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> atrus: the liveCD OS isnt different to the installed, you just have constrained drive space as it runs in RAM, and you cannot reboot
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> atrus: may help
[17:10] <ElFizbanio> usr13 http://pastebin.com/1x9Pn3aE I don't know what is not working
[17:12] <usr13> ElFizbanio: thats' not it.
[17:12] <ElFizbanio> usr13, then what is the right stuff?
[17:14] <ghostnik11> Feldegast: usr13: ActionParsnip: testdisk recognizes it but is asking me for a partition
[17:19] <wasanzy> hi
[17:19] <bennabiy> Hello all
[17:20] <wasanzy> when I add a user using useradd, the person's home directory is missing. how can I add user so his home directory gets created by default
[17:20] <gordonjcp> wasanzy: useradd -m
[17:21] <Ampelbein> wasanzy: In most cases, you want to use adduser to create new users.
[17:22] <wasanzy> ok
[17:22] <benzrf> excuse me, but is the version of node.js in the repos REALLY FREAKING OLD by any chance
[17:23] <atrus> ActionParsnip: no updates available :/
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> atrus: bah
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> wasanzy: its in the man page....
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> !info node.js
[17:24] <genial> benzrf: Yes, it's outdated - install from chris-lea's repo
[17:24] <Ampelbein> That's because it's called nodejs
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> !info nodejs
[17:24] <benzrf> thanks :)
[17:25] <genial> https://launchpad.net/~chris-lea/+archive/node.js/
[17:25] <benzrf> can  Iget a direct ppa link
[17:25] <benzrf> :p
[17:25] <benzrf> and a package name?
[17:25] <genial> nodejs
[17:25] <benzrf> far too lazy for all this nonsense
[17:25] <genial> ppa:chris-lea/node.js benzrf
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> benzrf: what, adding a ppa then running updates. Easier than windows...
[17:26] <benzrf> ActionParsnip: I know
[17:26] <benzrf> I mean
[17:27] <benzrf> actually pasting a link into my browser and looking for the ppa uri?!
[17:27] <benzrf> I left windows to  avoid that kind of absurdity
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> benzrf: just go to www.duckduckgo.com   and in the search bar type:  !ppa nodejs
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> benzrf: does it all for you :)
[17:27] <benzrf> o:
[17:27] <benzrf> man
[17:27] <benzrf> I wish I had something like google's superior results with ddg's tools
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> benzrf: works with any package
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> benzrf: i use both, why just use one
[17:28] <benzrf> um
[17:28] <benzrf> whatever
[17:28]  * ActionParsnip shrugs
[17:31] <thunder-storm> Hello, can somebody helps me according a question to conky and the tcp_portmon variables? i see, the tcp_portmon variables will slow down the update frequency from conky - a lot. What can be the reason?
[17:32] <benzrf> EXCUSE ME BUT I think the PPA has different package names, what are they?
[17:32] <benzrf> wait wha
[17:32] <benzrf> oh crap ugh
[17:32] <benzrf> :|
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> thunder-storm: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/400803-conky-new_mails-tcp_portmon-problems.html
[17:32] <kasjdfiome> Compiz isn't working
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> thunder-storm: more resources
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> kasjdfiome: can you expand on 'isnt working'?
[17:32] <benzrf> I once somehow managed to remove every package on my system
[17:32] <benzrf> it was pretty upsettings
[17:32] <benzrf> *upsetting
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> benzrf: just reinstall them then, no issue
[17:33] <kasjdfiome> ActionParsnip: For instance wobbly windows, snapping to screen isn't working.
[17:33] <benzrf> argh
[17:33] <benzrf> oh crud
[17:33] <thunder-storm> thanks ActionParsnip
[17:33] <benzrf> I forgot to apt-get update
[17:33]  * benzrf slumps
[17:33] <FloodBot1> benzrf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:34] <benzrf> :|
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> kasjdfiome: if you press ALT+F2 and run:   compiz --replace     does it work?
[17:34] <usr13> ElFizbanio: liblua5.1-0-dev_5.1.4-12ubuntu1_i386.deb
[17:35] <usr13> ElFizbanio: http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-12.04/ubuntu-main-i386/liblua5.1-0-dev_5.1.4-12ubuntu1_i386.deb.html
[17:36] <jesuse> Help. Ubuntu cannot update any packages. It keeps failing. I just did a clean installation of the 12.04 LTS
[17:36] <kasjdfiome> ActionParsnip: Oh yeah that fixed it, thanks. What does --replace do?
[17:37] <ElFizbanio> usr13 but I do have that package
[17:38] <saiarcot895> jesuse: are you connected to the internet, and did you do "sudo apt-get update"?
[17:38] <mastro> ho do I manually start X from an ubuntu live CD ? I tried /etc/init.d/lightdm start, it worked with error and now I can't seem to restart it (it say to use stop lightdm which doesn't work
[17:39] <BluesKaj> mastro, sudo service lightdm start
[17:40] <mastro> BluesKaj, it's already running, but I have no X (black screen) I want to restart it
[17:40] <Generator_> ActionParsnip: usr13: i executed the given script and then ubuntu downloaded loaded approx 54 mb and updated a little. I reboot ... but problem is not solved yet.
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> kasjdfiome: loads the new WM, replacing the old
[17:40] <mastro> BluesKaj, stop: Unknown instance / start: job failed to start
[17:40] <BluesKaj> mastro, then use startx
[17:41] <usr13> ElFizbanio: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/liblua5.1-0-dev/download
[17:42] <ElFizbanio> but thats for 64 bit machines
[17:42] <usr13> ElFizbanio: O
[17:43] <cjosephson> I just changed the network settings in the Network Connections gui from DHCP w/ manually specified DNS to DHCP w/ auto DNS. How do I get it to re-run the script that fills resolv.conf?
[17:43] <cjosephson> resolv.conf is still showing the DNS I entered manually
[17:44] <simple_john> Hello
[17:44] <simple_john> Hello, I have an sd card that stopped working when transferring some files from my phone to pc.  Now the pc won't mount the sd card.
[17:45] <simple_john> If I check the logs, I can see the sd card being detected and I even the the message "Attached SCSI removable disk"
[17:45] <simple_john> But after a few seconds I the log shows that the sd card was disconnected
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> simple_john: what file ssytem does the SD card use?
[17:45] <BluesKaj> cjosephson, check the nameserver in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[17:46] <pedrocr> Is there any simple way to convert a 12.04 install from x86 to amd64?
[17:46] <cjosephson> BluesKaj: it is blank
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> pedrocr: reinstall
[17:46] <pedrocr> ActionParsnip, I was hoping for something less drastic
[17:46] <simple_john> ActionParsnip: I think it was fat.  The card was used in a Galaxy S 3 phone
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> pedrocr: thats the only way
[17:47] <pedrocr> ActionParsnip, ok
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> simple_john: when you last unplugged it from a device, did you use the safe remove feature in the OS?
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> simple_john: have you checked the storage for errors?
[17:47] <BluesKaj> cjosephson, do you have modem/router access , if so make sure the dns settings are auto , if that's what you want.
[17:47] <p0wp0w> whats the easiest way to get a mailserver up and running in 13.04 ? I need a web interface too e.g. Squirrelmail
[17:47] <p0wp0w> tried some tutorials but had many issues
[17:48] <simple_john> ActionParsnip: Well the card stopped working in the middle of transferring some pictures from the phone to a windows pc.
[17:48] <cjosephson> I don't. I am sure it's auto, as that was how it was before I changed it to Google DNS myself. It found its own server then.
[17:48] <mastro> finally went into Ubuntu on my Lenovo Y500, a bit tricky, but I have it running... now what's the better way to dual boot windows 8 and ubuntu on a UEFI system?
[17:49] <mastro> I mean, should I install grub2? can it cause issues with windows?
[17:49] <mastro> or is there a way to make windows 8 provide a boot loader?
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | mastro
[17:50] <Shadowandlight> I have a unbuntu install that is saying is taking 2.3gb of ram ATM.... Does Ubuntu need 2.3gb of ram or if I host it on a 2gb or less server will it still run?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> Shadowandlight: its probably disk cache
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> !atemyram | Shadowandlight
[17:51] <simple_john> ActionParsnip: as for checking for errors, I can't access the sd card.  The /var/log/syslog shows some info about the card, says that it attached the device, then after a 2 or 3 seconds it says the device was disconnected.
[17:51] <MercX> whoa, quite a few people in here
[17:52] <Shadowandlight> ahh ActionParsnip my -/+ buffers/cache is coming back with 1588 "free"
[17:52] <Shadowandlight> so really my system is using less then 1gig
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> Shadowandlight: pastebin the output of:    free -m
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> mastro, Here is more install info. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[17:53] <Shadowandlight> http://pastebin.com/Fu3FZf3Q
[17:53] <MercX> Ubuntu 12.04, just updated a bunch of software and now my father's laptop is not utilizing dual monitors as it should. Previously he would connect the monitor into the laptop via VGA cable and the output would redirect from the laptop monitor to the external monitor. Now if he hooks up the monitor he gets a black screen on both devices and has to power down the laptop and restart
[17:53] <simple_john> ActionParsnip: are you good with udev rules?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Shadowandlight: 4Gb RAM, using 1.6Gb
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> simple_john: not had to deal with them, i know there are guides online for scanners
[17:54] <MercX> not really sure where to start to troubleshoot this
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Shadowandlight: using zero swap
[17:54] <MercX> the display control panel blanks both screens indefinately
[17:54] <MercX> xrandr by itself blanks both screens, xrandr -q gives some output
[17:54] <simple_john> Anyone here good with udev?
[17:55] <thunder-storm> According to my question to conky and the tcp_portmon variables, the tcp_portmon variables will slow down the update frequency from conky - a lot... The problem is based with OUTGOING tcp connections ONLY - i mean, it's resulting with slow DNS-lookups (netstat produces the same slow output). What can be the reason for that? I remember, i have put two clients in my /etc/hosts - hypothetical, if they are unreachable, this can be slow down 
[17:56] <saiarcot895> thunder-storm: the slow DNS lookups are either because of your network connection or the DNS servers you are using
[17:56] <ajp> looking for some guidance. So I have this bash script that monitors a folder for PDFs and shrinks them when there is a new one. It works by itself and is great but when I reboot my upstart script that initiates it is malfunctioning in some way. upstart script: http://pastebin.com/uiXkd901
[17:57] <simple_john> Do we have good forensic/recovery people here?  I could use some help trying to recover data from a 8Gb sd card
[17:57] <usr13> ElFizbanio: Did you install liblua5.1-0-dev ?
[17:57] <ElFizbanio> I did already
[17:57] <saiarcot895> thunder-storm: /etc/hosts is sort of like a DNS in that FQDNs have their IP address listed there (if anything, I think it can make it faster)
[17:57] <thunder-storm> saiarcot895: i'm using a fritzbox in combination with a 8-port-gigabit-swich
[17:57] <usr13> ElFizbanio: Then try the make command again.  (You should have lua.h now.)
[17:58] <usr13> ElFizbanio: ( /usr/include/lua5.1/lua.h )
[17:58] <saiarcot895> thunder-storm: it's not the connection speed, but the latency in the connection
[17:58] <saiarcot895> thunder-storm: the ping times
[17:58] <tertl3> is there a certain driver I need for my nvidia
[17:59] <ElFizbanio> usr13 I do have lua.h
[17:59] <tertl3> everytome I type nvidia-xconfig and restart, it never works?
[17:59] <mastro> wilee-nilee, that seems lot of work just to have ubuntu installed and doesn't say if I can keep the windows boot loader
[17:59] <ElFizbanio> and it still doesn't work
[17:59] <usr13> make | pastebinit
[18:01] <ElFizbanio> usr13 i've already given it to you
[18:01] <usr13> ./iceball
[18:01] <ElFizbanio> I'll try to uninstall Lua and build it from source
[18:01] <dougl> checking for X11/Xlib.h... no
[18:01] <dougl> configure: error: X Window System is required.I have a kde desktop isnt that x window system in 13.04?
[18:01] <thunder-storm> saiarcot895: yesterday i had a lot of problems with nfs shares. sometimes the clients can't find the server with the hostname. its interesting, because ssh-connections or ping with the hostnames works. after this problems, i put the IP-adresses and hostnames of server and clients in the /etc/hosts from all clients - after that, all nfs-based things working fine
[18:02] <trism> dougl: you need libx11-dev
[18:02] <dougl> trism, th;anks
[18:03] <papungag> hello
[18:03] <papungag> :)
[18:04] <Ubnoobtu> Can I install grml.iso by using DD? And what is DD?
[18:04] <Ubnoobtu> !info dd
[18:05] <simple_john> !dd
[18:05] <dougl> disk doubler or something
[18:05] <Ubnoobtu> install it to a usb btw***
[18:05] <saiarcot895> thunder-storm: wait, so the tcp connections being generated are to other computers in the /etc/hosts file?
[18:05] <dougl> makes copy
[18:05] <Ubnoobtu> a .iso o a usb will work as a bootable Os, right?
[18:06] <saiarcot895> thunder-storm: if that's the case, I'm not sure why it would be slow on the DNS lookup, considering it won't have to look it up.
[18:06] <simple_john> ActionParsnip: can I keep bugging you about udev?
[18:07] <mastro> install unt
[18:07] <mastro> install ubuntu doesn't run, how do I start it from command line to see what's wrong?
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Simple_john: what do you want me to tell you?  I already said I have no experience of it....
[18:07] <Ubnoobtu> Damn. I got 1497088+0 records in 1497088+0 records out 766509056 bytes (767 MB) copied, 99.0233 s, 7.7 MB/s, however, the target usb is empty. what happened?
[18:08] <thunder-storm> saiarcot895: yes i think so. otherwise, i have to specify the nfs-configuration with ip-adresses only (not with hostnames) and remove the lines from the /etc/hosts of any system
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Maesro: add the boot option : text
[18:08] <simple_john> ActionParsnip: ok, thaks.
[18:08] <simple_john> ActionParsnip: thanks*
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Simple_john : that was a question for you. What can I tell you?
[18:12] <thunder-storm> saiarcot895: because with the fritzbox i have sometimes problem to reach hosts with hostnames only
[18:12] <simple_john> ActionParsnip: well you mentioned tutorials.  I thought you might have some links.  I have looked at some but no luck.  Now I'm more interested in udev and how it works...
[18:12] <thunder-storm> saiarcot895: that was the reason to put the ip's and hostnames in the /etc/hosts - or is that not practicable?
[18:13] <MercX> how can i tell if i am using open source ro closed source radeon sdrivers
[18:13] <nikolaj_basher> k
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Simple_john : the only rules I've ever seen were to get elson scanners working. That's literally all I know
[18:13] <simple_john> be right back
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> MercX: sudo lshw -C display
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> MercX: fglrx = proprietary
[18:14] <simple_john> ActionParsnip: I understand, thank you for your time :)
[18:14] <davechez> I'm having trouble finding a solution to this, I need to use a DVD/CD drive over a netwrok with two computers, my chromebook (running chrubuntu) doesn't have a cd tray and I would like to install something from disk on it from my main machine
[18:14] <ksian> How to change the language for amd catalist control center?
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> MercX: look in the bottom block for driver=
[18:14] <simple_john> I'll be back in ~30 minutes
[18:14] <MercX> driver=radeon
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> MercX: open source
[18:18] <ksian> How to change the language for amd catalyst control center?
[18:18] <m_tadeu> hi....in what package can I find the file FindCTemplate.cmake?
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> !find findctemplate.cmake
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> M_tadeu: https://code.google.com/p/ctemplate/issues/attachmentText?id=91&aid=910000000&name=FindCtemplate.cmake&token=4FXLVXemzf5Sb9Maj728pCnwG8U%3A1339069175878
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> M_tadeu : searching Google found that. ...
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> M_tadei: is that what you need?
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> M_tadeu ^
[18:24] <m_tadeu> ActionParsnip: well not really...shoulddn't that come with thedev package of ctemplate?
[18:24] <trism> m_tadeu: doesn't look like it is included in ctemplate yet: https://code.google.com/p/ctemplate/issues/detail?id=91
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Mm_tadeu: could report a bug
[18:25] <quadHelix> has anybody here compiled angband 3.4.1 on Ubuntu 12.04?
[18:25] <nerder> hello
[18:25] <w4rl0ck> beszél valaki magyarul? :D
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Quashelix: is there not a ppa?
[18:25] <nerder> i'm trying to configure my 3G Internet Key on ubuntu 10.04
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> Nerder: what is the output of : uname -a
[18:26] <nerder> Linux bt 3.2.6 #1 SMP Fri Feb 17 10:40:05 EST 2012 i686 GNU/Linux
[18:26] <nerder> is that BackTrack5r3
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> Nerder : backtrack is not only EOL on the desktop but backtrack is not supported in any of the Ubuntu support channels
[18:27] <nerder> ActionParsnip, ook i could try in #backtrack  ;)
[18:27] <nerder> sorry if i ask
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> Nerder : ask in #backtrack-linux for backtrack support
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Nerder : It's cool
[18:28] <nerder> ActionParsnip, thx man! ;)
[18:28] <quadHelix> Actionparsnip: sadly I can only find the source for 3.4.1 and I wanted to use the new tiles available from that rev
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Nerder : I suggest you ditch the old release and clean install Precise which is LTS and supported here til April 2017
[18:29] <Ubnoobtu> hey, I'm trying to install grml.org as a usb bootable, and I'm having problems getting it started cause I'm pretty new.
[18:29] <ikonia> Ubnoobtu: not really an ubuntu issue
[18:29] <m_tadeu> ActionParsnip: thanx for your help
[18:29] <Ubnoobtu> Ikonia, how can I use unbuntu to do it cleanly.
[18:30] <ikonia> Ubnoobtu: to do what ?
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Ubnoobtu: its debian based. Try #debian ;-)
[18:31] <Ubnoobtu> besides using the start up disk creator, dd, and Uneetbootin, how can I use Ubuntu to create a Live cd/usb
[18:31] <mastro> is there an ubuntu live cd with pre-installed nvidia drivers?
[18:31] <b0red> ive went through the ubuntu comminity Loadable_Modules page, and it doesn't help me about resolving my problem
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Ubnoobtu : is it compatible with unetbootin?  I suggest you check the creator website for how to guides
[18:32] <ikonia> Ubnoobtu: those are the tools - if it doesn't work, it's probably the os, again, nothing to do with ubuntu
[18:34] <_DB> hey guys
[18:34] <Ubnoobtu> ikonia, thanks for the help, I can guess I've been irritating you my noob questions.
[18:34] <ikonia> Ubnoobtu: not at all, that's why people are here, to help you
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> Ubnoobtu : there is a how to on the site.  Did you not think to check the FAQ section? ?
[18:34] <_DB> what is a good  Mysql/php myadmin server to use for Ubuntu?
[18:35] <Ubnoobtu> but youve been helpful, so thanks.
[18:35] <ikonia> _DB: admin server ?
[18:35] <_DB> yes, not sure what they are called
[18:35] <_DB>  so I can run a localhost?
[18:35] <ikonia> _DB: what do you want to do ?
[18:35] <ikonia> _DB: what's the end goal, lets see if we can figure out what you want
[18:35] <Ubnoobtu> actionParsnip | I did as I was told on the website, but when I booted it up, it said I was missing a file.
[18:35] <_DB> set up a localhost/my sql databases
[18:35] <_DB> so I can run mywebsites
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Ubnoobtu : did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[18:36] <ikonia> _DB: ok, so there is no "admin" server needed, just install mysql/php/apache (google ubuntu lamp)
[18:36] <ikonia> _DB: did you mean "web server" ?
[18:36] <t-ubuntu> pranjal710, hi
[18:37] <pranjal710> t-ubuntu: Hi
[18:37] <jhutchins> I think _DB is after a GUI management tool like phpMyAdmin, which is really just a set of PHP scripts for Apache.
[18:37] <t-ubuntu> hello
[18:37] <t-ubuntu> join #windows
[18:37] <ikonia> jhutchins well, lets find out when he responds.
[18:37] <pranjal710> I am trying to run a shell script, but I am getting the following error:  spawn: not found
[18:37] <t-ubuntu> join #windows
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> Ikonia: probably something like phpmyadmin
[18:37] <_DB> yeah I used to use Xampp on Ubuntu
[18:37] <jhutchins> _DB: They're right though, you don't need it for basic setup of a LAMP site.
[18:37] <ikonia> pranjal710: that command is not on your system
[18:37] <ikonia> _DB: very strongly advise you not to use xampp
[18:38] <pranjal710> ikonia: so, how do I get it?
[18:38] <jhutchins> _DB: There should be a README with whatever PHP CM you're using that gives you the basic steps to initialize the database.
[18:38] <ikonia> pranjal710: you find a package that contains it or the function in the script
[18:38] <pranjal710> ikonia: any leads?
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> Pranjal710 : run it on it's own and you will be told
[18:38] <ikonia> pranjal710: no
[18:38] <_DB> I went to apachefriends.org which is where I usually go to download Xampp for linux
[18:38] <ikonia> _DB: again, strongly advise against xampp
[18:38] <_DB> but it came in a. run file which I cant seem to open even when I download the software for it
[18:39] <ikonia> _DB: download the softawre for it ?? it's a binary file, you just execute it
[18:39] <_DB> what would you recommend ?
[18:39] <ikonia> _DB: but a final warning against using xammp
[18:39] <jhutchins> _DB: We're trying to tell you DON'T DO THAT.
[18:39] <ikonia> !lamp | _DB
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> _db: you don't open it. You run it. It's a linux binary
[18:40] <jhutchins> _DB: You want to do your best to avoid software that isn't manged by apt/dpkg.
[18:40] <_DB> ohh I see, since when has it been like that? before I used to get a .tar file
[18:40] <_DB> and it would give me a folder to put in the root
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> _db: there are metapackages in the repo so I have no idea why you need any 3rd party files
[18:41] <ajp> looking for some guidance. So I have this bash script that monitors a folder for PDFs and shrinks them when there is a new one. It works by itself and is great but when I reboot, my upstart script that initiates it is malfunctioning in some way. upstart script: http://pastebin.com/uiXkd901
[18:41] <ElFizbanio> !hardy heron
[18:42] <ajp> !upstart | ajp
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> _db: you are talking about a 3rd party so you would have to ask them "since when". Its some unofficial blob you have found.  We don't know about every single script available
[18:42] <jhutchins> ajp: What do you use to shrink them?
[18:42] <ajp> jhutchins: ghost script
[18:42] <t-ubuntu> join #gsoc-india
[18:42] <ajp> it's a single command in my bash script
[18:42] <t-ubuntu> oops
[18:43] <_DB> alright , thanks for the help
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Ajp: use a cron job to check an appropriate frequency
[18:43] <mastro> after entering single user mode, how do I instruct the system to go on with the standard booting?
[18:43] <ikonia> mastro: "exit"
[18:43] <ajp> ActionParsnip: well I thought of that but I want the shunken PDF to be ready as soon as it scans in
[18:44] <MauriMant74> Hey guys!!1 I am using ubuntu gnome 13.04  I have always used guake terminal that it is very nice (hit f12 to get a terminal) but I haven't be able to make it run during startup , I have to run it manually after every reboot
[18:44] <ajp> ActionParsnip: this is our business server and needs to spit things out right away
[18:44] <pranjal710> i have this script: http://pastebin.com/YHGrmxhe . I want to run it.
[18:44] <mastro> ikonia, tnx
[18:45] <rootgerardo> alguien habla castellano
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Ajp: do you get lots? Cron checks for jobs to run every minute so you can check every 5 mins if you get quite a few
[18:45] <oem> oi
[18:45] <MauriMant74> yo!  seguro q eres de Chile o Argentina..
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> !pt
[18:46] <ajp> ActionParsnip: it's not a matter of frequency but a matter of convenience. If I scan a document in I want to be able to send it out as an attachment right away and not have to wait a few minutes for it
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> Ajp: then tell whatever is making them to compress the file as soon as it is made
[18:47] <ajp> ActionParsnip: doesn't cron use a lot of resources if it checks more frequently?
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Ajp: it checks all the time.  If it has nothing to do it uses very few
[18:48] <ajp> ActionParsnip: the ghost script command actively monitors the folder and converts it right away then waits for the next one
[18:48] <MauriMant74> someone using Guake?
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> Ajp: askubuntu.com/questions/43846/how-to-put-a-trigger-on-a-directory
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> Mairimant74: every day
[18:49] <_DB> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[18:49] <MauriMant74> did you get to make it run after reboot  I have to run it manually after reboot
[18:49] <_DB> if I follow the Lamp stack instructions I will get everything?
[18:50] <ghostnik11> usr13: Feldegast: ActionParsnip: okay so i have testdisk and it sees my usb hard drive but when i select it, testdisk shows it with more storage than its suppose to have
[18:50] <MauriMant74> ActionParsnip: I include it in auto start apps but it does not work
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> MauriMant74: symlink in ~/.config/autostart
[18:50] <simple_john> Do we have good forensic/recovery people here?  I could use some help trying to recover data from a 8Gb sd card.
[18:50] <ajp> ActionParsnip: My problem is with upstart. I want this script to run at boot so I don't have to worry about it if I'm halfway around the world. (i'm the only IT guy) so i made an upstart script here: http://pastebin.com/uiXkd901  It worked for a few months then stopped working out of the blue
[18:50] <ActionParsnip>  Simple_john : foremost
[18:50] <subz3r0> !ask > simple_john
[18:51] <subz3r0> !ask | simple_john
[18:52] <jhutchins> ajp: Just call the script in rc.local.
[18:52] <simple_john> ActionParsnip: thanks, but it is the same sd card :p
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> Simple_john : scalpel is the only other I know.  Time to break out the backups
[18:53] <ajp> jhutchins: I'm not familiar
[18:54] <jhutchins> simple_john: There's also photorec
[18:54] <simple_john> ActionParsnip: I have foremost, scalpel, and photorec.  Sadly it is not my card and I believe there are no backup ;_;
[18:55] <[Chi]bears85> NO
[18:55] <simple_john> jhutchins: thanks.
[18:55] <jhutchins> It is often said that you do not really have something if your only copy is on flash ram.
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> Simple_john : then I dunno what else to suggest.  Could pay for professional recovery if it's worth it
[18:55] <ajp> jhutchins: looks like I can't use rc.local because I have to run my script as root
[18:56] <jhutchins> ajp: rc.local runs as root.
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> Ajp: rc.local runs as root
[18:56] <ajp> jhutchins: ActionParsnip: http://askubuntu.com/questions/9853/how-can-i-make-rc-local-run-on-startup
[18:56] <MauriMant74> ActionParsnip: In ~/.config/autostart I ahve a Guake.destop with the following http://pastebin.com/1EFTEuPp   It looks ok.. but itdoesnt work
[18:57] <simple_john> ActionParsnip: "I" don't think it is worth it.  What I'm after is ~3 gb worth of pictures.
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> Ajp: rc.local always runs and as root.  Just add your command suffixed with an ampersand
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> MauriMant74: I have 2 guake files in there if memory serves
[18:58] <lenzeor> Hey Guys, I wondered if you could help me: I'm trying to connect an iPod Classic to my computer in Disk Mode, but it won't show in the file manager...
[18:59] <SachinIsGreat> Hi
[19:00] <SachinIsGreat> Is it secure to do nline shopping using ubun
[19:00] <ajp> ActionParsnip: which rc.local do I add it to? /etc/rc.local or /etc/init.d/rc.local ?
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> Ajp: /etc/rc.local add above the ' exit 0 ' line
[19:01] <tgm4883> SachinIsGreat, yes, as secure as any other OS
[19:01] <ajp> ActionParsnip: do I just write the path or is there an exec command?
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> MauriMant74 : http://paste.ubuntu.com5952323
[19:02] <SachinIsGreat> So is it secure if i buy a trojan magnum..can anybody track it
[19:02] <tgm4883> I.....
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> Ajp: the absolute path to the command.  If it is a script be sure it is marked as executable
[19:02] <tgm4883> SachinIsGreat, who are you worried about?
[19:03] <FfoO> Greetings every one. Does any one know the web address I can add on 'sources.list' file so I can install 'sudo' package on ubuntu, and I hope I make sense with this question?
[19:03] <SachinIsGreat> Im worried about bad hackers
[19:03] <ajp> should I put the "." in front of the path for a bash script?
[19:03] <SachinIsGreat> No put my big dick
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> !ops
[19:03] <SachinIsGreat> Bash wont see ur small one
[19:04] <pvl1> ajp if your in the directory sure
[19:04] <ajp> !manners |  SachinIsGreat
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> Ajp: is the script hidden?
[19:04] <ajp> nope
[19:04] <tgm4883> Corey, not quite
[19:04] <pvl1> ajp: but then itd be ./
[19:04] <ajp> I kinda meant how you would execute the script from CLI
[19:04] <pvl1> ajp: did you set the script to +x perm
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> Ajp: then why would there be a dot if you are using absolute file names?
[19:05] <ajp> but it seems as though it just wants the whole path name and not a command
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> Ajp: yes the file name from / all the way to the name itself.
[19:06] <ajp> ok done, now reboot?
[19:06] <pvl1> no need
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> Ajp: with an ampersand?
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Ajp: eg. /home/foo/scripts/filename &
[19:07] <ajp> to background it?
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Ajp: yes or it could hang the boot
[19:08] <pvl1> ajp ActionParsnip why is there a need for a reboot
[19:08] <ajp> ActionParsnip:so I added "/home/matthew/scripts/MonitorScannedPDFsMatthew.sh &" to rc.local
[19:08] <ajp> pvl1: I was asking
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Pvl1: never said there was. Its useful as a full test though
[19:09] <Guest17612> hey friends
[19:09] <pvl1> ActionParsnip: do you mean the ampersand is usefull?
[19:09] <pvl1> ajp: youd only need to log out and log back in to update your path
[19:09] <pvl1> or whatever the variable is called
[19:09] <Guest17612> does anyone know a good CPU overclocking app for Ubuntu?
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Ajp: the .sh isn't needed you know. You could call it .png and it'd work the same
[19:09] <pvl1> Guest17612: thats not a good idea
[19:09] <ajp> pvl1: it's a headless business server. I need to wait until after hours to reboot
[19:10] <Guest17612> pvl1, why?
[19:10] <ajp> or relog
[19:10] <pvl1> ajp: no need still. you didnt add it to your path
[19:10] <ajp> wut?
[19:10] <pvl1> Guest17612: because you can damage your cpu
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Ajp: rc.local will not run if you log off and on.
[19:10] <ajp> right. I want it to run at boot
[19:10] <Guest17612> yeah, but its still nice knowing i can overclock the CPU on linux
[19:11] <gordonjcp> Guest17612: you can overclock the CPU in any OS
[19:11] <pvl1> Guest17612: you can overclock on any system
[19:11] <gordonjcp> Guest17612: it's not useful any more though
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> Pwl1: for a single script it doesn't need to be in the $PATH
[19:11] <pvl1> indeed my point ActionParsnip , there is no need for a reboot
[19:11] <pvl1> at all
[19:11] <mengxuan> I want to see what params are used in a deb package build, how should i find the arguments passed in configure in a deb source pacakge?
[19:11] <Guest17612> AMD CPUs are suppose to be easy to overclock, so i would like to try out the feature on Ubuntu
[19:11] <pvl1> ajp, youve added it to rc.local, and have you updated the permissions on your script
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> Pvl1 : tests it works as expected
[19:11] <gordonjcp> Guest17612: it's not worth it
[19:12] <gordonjcp> Guest17612: back in the early days it was worth trying to overclock your 25MHz CPU to maybe 30MHz
[19:12] <ajp> pvl1: yes. how would I test besides reboot?
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> Guest17612: use your bios then. Ask in ##hardware
[19:12] <Guest17612> maybe, but I want to try it out
[19:12] <gordonjcp> Guest17612: now you can't really squeeze much more out of the CPU
[19:12] <pvl1> ajp: now your asking the right question :)
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Ajp: kill the things it starts then run: sudo /etc/rc.local in an ALT+F2
[19:13] <Guest17612> gordonjcp, i hear you can get close to 5GHz from new AMD CPUs
[19:13] <ajp> alt f2? Im connected to the server via ssh
[19:13] <pvl1> Guest17612: do you have a higher quality heat sink and fan for it
[19:14] <Guest17612> i'm going to get one, just going to test out on stock first
[19:14] <pvl1> ajp: running the script is the only test you need
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> Ajp: then use screen and run rc.local then disconnect the screen so the things ran keep going
[19:14] <ajp> ok running /etc/rc.local gets it going I can see it watching the folder
[19:14] <pvl1> Guest17612: and then do u have moeny to replace the new amd cpu u will probably melt by doing this with stock equip
[19:14] <Guest17612> can you just tell me the apps on how to achieve overclocking on Ubuntu, thanks
[19:15] <pvl1> ajp: awesome
[19:15] <pvl1> Guest17612: its not an app, the bios is what really controls that. there are certain layers to an onion
[19:15] <ajp> can I just use "sudo /etc/rc.local &"
[19:15] <pvl1> ajp: to test?
[19:16] <Guest17612> pvl1, in Windows you can just use apps to overclock, bios is just software too
[19:16] <ajp> no I want it running all the time. I can't be connected via ssh forever?!
[19:16] <pvl1> ajp: id use screen just to be safe
[19:17] <ElFizbanio> could someone get this file and upload it to dropbox or something? http://quozl.linux.org.au/netrek-client-pygame/gytha_0.9-1_all.deb
[19:17] <ElFizbanio> it's prone to cut off
[19:17] <ajp> Why can't I just reboot and let it run? I want this to be stupid proof
[19:17] <pvl1> ajp: you can let it reboot
[19:17] <ajp> and rebooting will run rc.local and let the script run?
[19:18] <pvl1> Guest17612: do a google search, this is a support channel afterall
[19:18] <pvl1> Guest17612: and thats part of the reason why the security world uses *nix derivs and not windows
[19:19] <Guest17612> ?
[19:19] <ajp> Guest17612: BIOS is firmware not software
[19:19] <pvl1> ajp: long as your script has correct perm, and no errors yes. HOWEVER i suggest you make your script exit 0, meaning if there are any indefinite loops, start another script
[19:19] <pvl1> ajp: it says so in the rc.local file to do so
[19:19] <pvl1> ajp: and good call, it is indeed firmware
[19:20] <ajp> ok, thanks pvl1, jhutchins, ActionParsnip. I will reboot after the business day and check but I'll see you tomorrow if a no go. Thanks Guys/Gals!
[19:20] <pvl1> nno prob
[19:20] <pvl1> good luck ajp
[19:20] <ajp> ty :D
[19:21] <Guest17612> pvl1, it doesn't matter if its linux or windows any OS can overclock the CPU
[19:21] <mpd2002> Hi, anybody here with chops to help me figure out a problem installing the php-gd package?  It seems to require an older version of php-common, and downgrading to that version apparently will remove some other packages that I need.
[19:22] <pvl1> Guest17612: im aware
[19:22] <Guest17612> even if you have a "dell" with a locked motherboard you can still overclock in linux or windows
[19:22] <Guest17612> have a read of this, its very interesting http://www.overclock.net/t/1205257/overclock-cpu-in-linux-necessary-program-names-given
[19:24] <mpd2002> #php
[19:25] <pvl1> mpd2002: hold on
[19:25] <pvl1> Guest17612: its not interesting.
[19:25] <pvl1> Guest17612: what amd u got
[19:26] <mpd2002> pvl1: thanks
[19:27] <SachinIsLegit> Yooo
[19:27] <pvl1> mpd2002: php-common or php5-common
[19:28] <SachinIsLegit> Can black people. Use ubuntu??
[19:28] <mpd2002> pvl1: sorry, I did mean php5-common
[19:28] <pvl1> SachinIsLegit: do you know where the term ubuntu comes from
[19:29] <SachinIsLegit> Yea africa?
[19:29] <pvl1> mpd2002: whats ver do u have curr
[19:29] <pvl1> SachinIsLegit: so that would lead you to believe....
[19:29] <mpd2002> pvl1:  I'm running ubuntu 12.04 on AWS virtual machine
[19:30] <pvl1> mpd2002: sorry i meant verision of php5
[19:30] <mpd2002> pvl1: lemme check
[19:30] <ray__> anyone familiar with netcat?
[19:30] <usr13> How can I tell udev to ignore a partition? (And not show icon on my xfce desktop.)
[19:30] <pvl1> usr13: fstab?
[19:30] <_DB> how do I get root privileges ? like to be able to move files owned by root?
[19:30] <usr13> no
[19:30] <usr13> udev
[19:30] <pvl1> _DB: sudo
[19:31] <tripelb> i ate my password. oops. will this 2008 still work in 2013?  cant Paste.. grr android froyo. .http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-forgotten-ubuntu-password-in-2-minutes-or-less/   GOT IT. why did i change it to "something simpler?" heh. THEN o meed to figure out how to access the windows/NTFS partitions. (12.04 on no-internet old Dell)
[19:31] <SachinIsLegit> We black people love windows..becoz we.can.throw our black shit and cum to our.white.neigjbours
[19:31] <Marlene_k> error while i open " aptitude " E: Could not open lock file /var/lock/aptitude - open (2: No such file or directory)▒
[19:31] <pvl1> usr13: go look at /etc/udev/rules.d
[19:32] <SachinIsLegit> Cani install ubuntu in my samsung smart phone
[19:32] <pvl1> probably
[19:33] <mpd2002> pvl1: PHP 5.3.26-1~dotdeb.0.  sorry i'm such a noob, i don't really get the difference between debian and ubuntu packages
[19:33] <pvl1> Marlene_k: sudo aptitude
[19:33] <usr13> pvl1: I already tried putting file hide-partition.rules with line ibqt3c-mt-mysql: Installed: (none) Candidate: (none) Version table:
[19:34] <usr13> ooops
[19:34] <pvl1> mpd2002: did u run the apt-get update, dist-upgrade or upgrade and what not. it seems as tho the repos have a newer version of php5-gd and it depends on the 5.4.6 php5-common
[19:34] <usr13> With KERNEL=="/dev/sda3", ENV{UDISKS_PRESENTATION_HIDE}="1"  in it.
[19:34] <mpd2002> pvl1:  when i try 'apt-get install php5-gd', i get error that it depends on php5-common 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.7
[19:34] <usr13> but it didn't work.
[19:35] <Gokee2> Where can I find the Ubuntu 13.04 DVD download?  I have tried going to http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop but it only seems to link to CD images, it seems a wast to burn a CD image to my DVD.
[19:36] <pvl1> mpd2002: and uve definetly run an apt-get update, enabled universe multiverse etc. it seems weird. gimme a few minutes, need to see what goin on in 12.04
[19:36] <mpd2002> pvl1:  i did try apt-get update and upgrade, haven't tried dist-upgrade.  apparently i have 5.3.26-1~dotdeb.0 of php5-common.
[19:37] <pvl1> mpd2002: well hold on there then
[19:37] <mpd2002> pvl1:  entirely possible i haven't enabled something i need to
[19:37] <pvl1> mpd2002: lemme look into this
[19:38] <pvl1> Gokee2: i think the alternate isntaller might be the larger disc ur looking for. nto sure
[19:38] <Gokee2> pvl1, Hmmm, is it a live-dvd as well?
[19:38] <pvl1> Gokee2: dont think so
[19:38] <pvl1> usr13: found this: http://siliconbased.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/ignoring-devices-with-udev-rules/
[19:39] <nurow> question about an annoying little bug.. everytime I do something in a GUI application that requires an admin password, the "Authentication is required" windows opens up BEHIND all of my other windows.
[19:39] <Gokee2> So if I want a live disk I need to get the cd sized image and burn it to my dvd?
[19:39] <nurow> it is so f'ing annoying
[19:40] <usr13> pvl1: Thanks, reading, (not uderstanding yet, but... reading....).
[19:40] <pvl1> usr13: i tried :(
[19:41] <pvl1> Gokee2: not necc. hold on a tick
[19:42] <Marlene_k> nurow : E: Could not open lock file /var/lock/aptitude - open (2: No such file or directory)▒
[19:42] <Gokee2> pvl1, Okay
[19:42] <pvl1> Gokee2: id go with liveusb if you dont wanna waste a dvd, but it seems that yeah they only released the cd image
[19:42] <nurow> marlene_k: I don't understand.. is that an error related to my issue?
[19:43] <Marlene_k> nurow : no i get this error while i run aptitude
[19:44] <pvl1> nurow: your not the only one with errors...
[19:44] <pvl1> Marlene_k: did you run it as root
[19:44] <nurow> pvl1: I know.. I just wasn't sure why she tagged me. I'm a noob :p
[19:44] <Gokee2> pvl1, Okay, thanks for looking!
[19:44] <pvl1> nurow: what ver ubuntu and what window manager
[19:45] <pvl1> nurow: sorry u right didnt see that
[19:45] <pvl1> Gokee2: no prob
[19:45] <nurow> pvl1: raring with Unity
[19:45] <Marlene_k> pvl1 : yes i run it as root
[19:46] <pvl1> mpd2002: hm
[19:46] <pvl1> mpd2002: it seems as tho you may need to compile php5-gd by hand with what you have, OR do a sys upgrade to the latest ubuntu
[19:46] <pvl1> mpd2002: do you need the LTS
[19:47] <mpd2002> pvl1: i don't mind upgrading, if that's what it takes.  what is LTS?
[19:47] <Sk1Special> long term support
[19:48] <pvl1> Marlene_k: as root, make the dir, and make it writeable by root
[19:48] <pvl1> nurow: hm that is really weird
[19:49] <nurow> yeah.. and I can pull it up by manually clicking the icon in the unity bar.. but sometimes I don't realize that it is prompting me
[19:50] <whois> hi can i ask
[19:50] <mpd2002> pvl1:  with you now.  i'm using the default distro from AWS.  there are a few other options, i think red hat is one of them, but hoping not to have to rebuild the whole thing.
[19:50] <whois> how to go to other room
[19:51] <pvl1> whois: /j #name_of_channel
[19:51] <whois> thanks pvl1
[19:51] <pvl1> mpd2002: oh do u mean amazon?
[19:51] <mpd2002> pvl1:  indeed, that's where we get our services
[19:52] <pvl1> oooooo
[19:52] <pvl1> 1 minute phone call
[19:54] <snollux> Hello hello. I'm trying to make an Ubuntu package, which will need to do the following: compile 1 c file, chown and chmod it, create a directory and move it to that directory.. and then chown and chmod  and move two python files
[19:54] <_andyj_> anyone help me debug fancontrol on a z77 mobo?  my cpu fan is at 100% and killing me
[19:54] <pvl1> nurow: try dpkg-reconfigure on gksu and gksudo
[19:54] <snollux> is there an easy way to do the chmod and chowning?
[19:55] <[Raiden]> snollux: man install
[19:56] <pvl1> snollux: the point of deb is to not compile
[19:56] <pvl1> mpd2002: i would probably give them a call first... otherwise you may need to compile php5-gd so that it builds to your system
[19:57] <BAFOS7> hello I have a question about tcl and wget from www.egghelp.org
[19:57] <MoPac> Hello - I know this sounds like a stupid "Google it" question, but I'm looking for documentation on the ubuntu software center sync functionality, and I can't seem to find it. Why is storing the information about installed packages? How is it encrypted? etc
[19:57] <MoPac> *Who is storing
[19:57] <k1l_> BAFOS7: then ask egghelp.org?
[19:57] <pvl1> mpd2002: actually do u have aptitude isntalled
[19:58] <nurow> pvl1: I'm a little confused, do I just run "dpkg-reconfigure" ?
[19:58] <BAFOS7> my question has to do with wget not egghelp
[19:58] <mpd2002> pvl1: i don't think so, i use apt-get for everything
[19:58] <nurow> im not familiar with gksudo or gksu
[19:58] <pvl1> mpd2002: try installing aptitude, running it, and installing php5-gd through there, might give you some insight
[19:58] <pvl1> mpd2002: read around the shortcuts about it so you know how to use it
[19:59] <pvl1> nurow: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gku gksudo
[19:59] <mpd2002> pvl1:  i will try it.  thanks a lot for your help!
[19:59] <pvl1> nurow: snap while ur at it might as well reconfigure unity. i cant find any errors on this
[19:59] <pvl1> mpd2002: no prob
[20:00] <nurow> thx, let me try this
[20:00] <titia> how do you convert an image from xpm to svg ?
[20:00] <nurow> pvl1: "dpkg-query: package 'gku' is not installed and no information is available"
[20:01] <pvl1> gksu
[20:01] <mastroMint> hi, I've installed ubuntu choosing other setting in partitioning and the existing EFI partition as EFI boot... restarting booted windows 8 without asking
[20:01] <mastroMint> any hint?
[20:01] <A1Recon> Which one of these do I install??
[20:01] <A1Recon> http://java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en
[20:01] <nurow> pvl1: "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: gksu is broken or not fully installed"
[20:01] <pvl1> AHA!!
[20:01] <A1Recon> I am running Ubuntu 13.04
[20:02] <pvl1> nurow: run a sudo apt-get check
[20:02] <nurow> so I just install gksu?
[20:02] <nurow> apt-get check works fine
[20:03] <pvl1> nurow: well gksu is apperently partially isntalled. hm apt-get check gksu
[20:03] <lukem> Hi Luke here with Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop
[20:03] <pvl1> nurow: u gotta get that installed correctly. so if u can purge it and isntall it without removing unity as well
[20:03] <nurow> i just installed gksu
[20:03] <lukem> Wondering why all of a sudden, I am unable to run certain python scripts in terminal
[20:04] <pvl1> mastroMint: start up the livecd again and set ur ubuntu partition as boot partition in gparted
[20:04] <pvl1> !java | A1Recon
[20:04] <BluesKaj> mastroMint, try holding the left shift key while booting to see if grub appears
[20:04] <lukem> I can run all but one python script, and this is for no reason. I  am under root priveleges, and it is an exectuable script. I really think this is a Ubuntu problem and not a python problem, because it does not even go into the file. Any ideas?
[20:04] <mastroMint> pvl1: this is EFI
[20:05] <mastroMint> BluesKaj: is this standard or laptop/brand specific?
[20:05] <pvl1> nurow: hit alt+f2 and type gksu apt-get update or whatever to test. but that doesnt sound like a fix
[20:05] <BluesKaj> it was on ubuntu , mastroMint , not sure if it works with efi tho
[20:05] <pvl1> lukem: ask in #python
[20:06] <lukem> but I think its a distro problem
[20:06] <nurow> pvl1, when I do that, I get a login propt that will not authenticate my password
[20:06] <lukem> my ubuntu is funky sometimes, it disconnects ssh automatically and internet does not always work 100%
[20:06] <pvl1> nurow: can you still do it in a terminal
[20:06] <nurow> but it works with sudo
[20:06] <lukem> my computer is fine because windows end works nicely.
[20:06] <lukem> any ideas?
[20:06] <proxypirate> hey guys have you seen the smartphone/mini computer that is going to come out in 2014 called -> 'Ubuntu Edge'. Apparently it is a fully smartphone and mini computer with 4gigs Ram and 128Gig Harddrive with an impressive Proccessor speed that will be fully powered by Ubuntu and it will give you the choice to either Run Ubuntu or Android's Jelly Bean operating syystem. Only thing is they are asking a lot of money for it -> $8
[20:06] <mastroMint> BluesKaj: the EFI partition is the second partition of the second disk, and I cannot change it
[20:06] <k1l_> BAFOS7: what is your question then?
[20:06] <MercX> anoyne using syngery and awesome wm?
[20:07] <cmartin0> Ubuntu 12.04, when I rotate a monitor Xorg uses 50% CPU.
[20:07] <nurow> when I run the command you gave me earlier, I still get dpkg-query: package 'gksudo' is not installed and no information is available
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> MercX:  synergy should work with any wndow manager
[20:07] <MercX> i have it setup and working, just a minor issue i am trying to iron out
[20:07] <pvl1> lukem: i doubt your python is ubuntu specific. try debugging it.
[20:08] <pvl1> nurow: what ver ubuntu are you on?
[20:08] <pvl1> nurow: you dont need gksudo, i just wasnt sure which one it was
[20:08] <nurow> 13.04
[20:08] <nurow> oh ok
[20:09] <k1l_> !pm | BAFOS7
[20:09] <BluesKaj> mastroMint, make the 2nd disk fist in the boot sequence in the bios , then try the shift key
[20:09] <BAFOS7> sorry
[20:09] <Snake2k> hey everyone, i have a black screen problem on ubuntu 12.04.. i tried the nomodeset thing etc doesnt work.. i get a purple screen then black and then nothing
 when I try to use wget to download a file from a website how do I know where the file is located?
[20:10] <mastroMint> BluesKaj: can;t either.. the first disk is an SSD used to boost disk speed
[20:10] <k1l_> BAFOS7: you need to know the exact path you want to download with wget
[20:10] <nurow> let me try to reboot now that i've installed gksu
[20:10] <pvl1> nurow: but does the unity
[20:10] <pvl1> appear in front now
[20:10] <BAFOS7> well for instance http://www.egghelp.org/tclhtml/3478-4-0-365-1.htm in this website
[20:10] <nurow> it is not fixed still
[20:10] <BAFOS7> how do I donwload the first file
[20:10] <proxypirate> if anyone is interested he is the link for the ubuntu edge -> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
[20:10] <k1l_> BAFOS7: like making a right click on the link and safe the link-path, the use wget with that link
[20:11] <BAFOS7> how do I find the exact path?
[20:11] <ksian> How to change the language for amd catalyst control center?
[20:11] <pvl1> nurow: reboot wont do anything
[20:11] <mastroMint> nurow: I didn't follow your issue, but rebooting for gksu doesn't make sense
[20:11] <BluesKaj> mastroMint,  well i guess you've painted yourself into a corner , unless someone else has a suggestion
[20:11] <BAFOS7> do I right click on the file and copy the link location?
[20:11] <nurow> ok
[20:11] <pvl1> mastroMint: his gksu unity prompt appears behind active windows
[20:11] <pvl1> or her
[20:11] <k1l_> proxypirate: lets keep this channel for support only. we have #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting and #ubuntu-touch for the system
[20:11] <mastroMint> pvl1: oh, I see, I doubt reinstalling gksu can fix it
[20:12] <guntbert> BAFOS7: yes, then you type   wget   and press <shift><ctrl>V
[20:12] <pvl1> mastroMint: i realized that after i said it. i was thinkigna  dpkg on unity?
[20:12] <BAFOS7> ok but
[20:12] <BAFOS7> when I do that
[20:12] <mastroMint> BluesKaj: how id it supposed to work? does grub install in the EFI partition? does it override the previous content? does it add to it? how is it supposed to work? first time with EFI
[20:12] <BAFOS7> I come up with this address
[20:12] <BAFOS7> http://www.egghelp.org/cgi-bin/tcl_archive.tcl?mode=download&id=1717
[20:13] <BAFOS7> and I know ubuntu download a file after the /
[20:13] <BAFOS7> so the file is not know
[20:13] <BAFOS7> I don't even know if I make any sense on what I try to say
[20:13] <guntbert> !enter|  BAFOS7
[20:13] <mastroMint> pvl1: I would say this is some extension issu or unity itself
[20:13] <mastroMint> pvl1: s/issu/issue/
[20:14] <guntbert> BAFOS7: why do you want to use wget?
[20:14] <BluesKaj> mastroMint, grub looks for the mbr on the disk and installs there , which is normally the first part of the disk (512 bytes or some such)
[20:14] <pvl1> mastroMint: hence a reconf otherwise i have no idea
[20:14] <BAFOS7> I want to download a tcl for an eggdrop
[20:14] <mastroMint> BluesKaj: that's for non-EFI
[20:14] <guntbert> BAFOS7: why don't you download it with your browser?
[20:14] <pvl1> BluesKaj: are you positive you did indeed install grub to mbr? and for that matter, do you only have one drive?
[20:15] <BAFOS7> because I want to learn how to use the command line
[20:15] <BluesKaj> mastroMint, ok , i was afraid that efi would change things :(
[20:15] <BAFOS7> I know how to download it from my browser :)
[20:15] <mastroMint> nurow: did the issue started recently?
[20:15] <guntbert> !who | BAFOS7
[20:15] <BluesKaj> pvl1, it's mastroMint with efi , ub untu boot problem
[20:16] <pvl1> BluesKaj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[20:16] <BluesKaj> mastroMint, ^
[20:16] <pvl1> idk what else to tell u :(
[20:16] <guntbert> BAFOS7: in that case I suggest you try from a website with "static" file links, the page you mentioned is obviously a script
[20:17] <BAFOS7> !tab guntbert any suggestions?
[20:17] <mastroMint> pvl1: auch... I dont want to disable srt
[20:17] <nurow> mastroofMint it has always happened with this laptop
[20:17] <Vivekananda> hey everyone .What is the password for a ubuntu 12.04 hd image for virtual box ?
[20:18] <pvl1> nurow: when you say always... have you tried installing fresh from a disc
[20:18] <guntbert> BAFOS7: for the tab thing: type   gun<tab>  (thats the tab-key on your keyboard)
[20:18] <Ninc0mP00p> how can i see other people in this room?
[20:19] <pvl1> mastroMint: whats it do anyway
[20:19] <guntbert> BAFOS7: as for suggestions: visit download.ubuntu.com  and look for a file you like
[20:19] <nurow> well, I installed fresh from a disc
[20:19] <nurow> originally
[20:19] <BAFOS7> ok thanks
[20:19] <BAFOS7> sorry for the chat confusion
[20:19] <nurow> but I have not re-installed Ubuntu
[20:19] <guntbert> BAFOS7: no problem :)
[20:19] <titia> how do you convert an image from xpm to svg ?
[20:19] <pvl1> nurow: hm... idk on a whim you could try to dpkg-reconfigure unity and all related programs
[20:19] <pvl1> libs
[20:20] <mastroMint> pvl1: I installed, choosing the existing EFI partition to use as EFI. My system has 2 disk, first one is an SSD used as SRT to boost disk performance on windows
[20:20] <pvl1> nurow: otherwise i really dont know, have you updated and upgraded
[20:20] <mastroMint> pvl1: after installing I rebooted but windows 8 started, no option was given
[20:20] <mastroMint> pvl1: this is the first time I play with EFI and I-m not sure what to do cause I don't know how it works
[20:20] <pvl1> BluesKaj: wow sorry my b
[20:20] <titia> how do you convert an image from xpm to svg ?
[20:21] <nurow> pvl1: I just tried dpkg-reconfigure unity, same thing
[20:21] <guntbert> !repeat | titia
[20:21] <pvl1> titia: google
[20:21] <BluesKaj> pvl1, np  :)
[20:21] <nurow> this is a system76 laptop, so let me try to lean on their support.
[20:21] <guntbert> !google | pvl1
[20:22] <pvl1> theres an issue when i get that everytime im in here :(
[20:22] <napsc> nurow: what do you have under compiz config manager -> general -> focus & raise behavior tab
[20:23] <mastroMint> guntbert: can't say I agree with that policy... makes users annoying and unwilling to look for their issues themselves
[20:23] <pvl1> mastroMint: did you look in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[20:23] <pvl1> mastroMint: my point is that you need to confirm that first ubuntu installed, grub installed, and that its to the right disk, and that your uefi likes it
[20:24] <pvl1> mastroMint: irc rules
[20:24] <mastroMint> pvl1: can't say I read it all, but yes I lookeat ad it.. and I'd rather avoid executing some "boot fix" which I don't know what does
[20:24] <pvl1> mastroMint: boot repair is ubuntu made
[20:24] <pvl1> canonical rather
[20:24] <Awaken> and it tells you exactly what its doing
[20:25] <Awaken> in fact if its the tool im thining of, it just gives you commands to copy and paste into terminal
[20:25] <mastroMint> pvl1: I want to know how EFI is expected to work with Linux.. can the EFI partition be the second partition on the second disk? how does grub install itself there? those it override the previous EFI? does it add itself to it?
[20:25] <nurow> napsc, how do I get to compiz config manager?
[20:25] <pvl1> mastroMint: no idea, id suggest digging in #linux
[20:25] <pvl1> i gotta head out
[20:25] <fulange> hey everyone, hows it going?  I, as you might expect, have come here to seek help...
[20:25] <pvl1> ill b on laters
[20:26] <mastroMint> pvl1: my policy is: do not run it if you don't know what it does, worked so far.. I want to understand what's going on before executing random tools and hope things will be right, sound much like windows style to me
[20:26] <guntbert> !ask | fulange
[20:26] <fulange> i am new to linux and just installed ubuntu 13.04 and it doesnt seem to see my ethernet cable!
[20:26] <titia> so a newbie comes to the ubuntu channel for help... one user tells him to google it... another one says he's annoying... nice... so is that the community spirit?
[20:27] <pvl1> titia: your question was not ubuntu specific
[20:27] <pvl1> this is an ubuntu support channel
[20:27] <guntbert> titia: no, but you need to be patient
[20:27] <napsc> nurow: software center -compizConfig ... i thought that is was installed on mine by default... guess i installed it
[20:27] <pvl1> all i can say is look into gimp titia thats the linux photoshop of u will
[20:27] <pvl1> bye all
[20:27] <gordonjcp> titia: did you have a specific Ubuntu support question?
[20:28] <fulange> i am new to linux and just installed ubuntu 13.04 and it doesnt seem to see my ethernet cable!
[20:28] <fulange> what can i do to "turn on" or activate my internet?
[20:28] <Guest27635> i have set up ad-hoc network on one Ubuntu machine and the other one will not connect to it. The SSID is greyed out in the network list
[20:28] <gordonjcp> fulange: see in the top right beside the clock and speaker symbols, do you see a symbol that looks like a pair of arrows pointing up and down?
[20:29] <napsc> nurow: nvrmind, about installing it though... you obviously didn't change it :)
[20:29] <fulange> nope, no arrows
[20:29] <titia> i need to convert an icon image from xpm to svg... i don't know what's the limit between what can be asked and what not...
[20:30] <nurow> ah.. *goes and uninstalls it*
[20:30] <gordonjcp> titia: that's not really about Ubuntu as such
[20:30] <titia> i thought it was an easy problem that someone here could give me a quick answer to...
[20:30] <gordonjcp> titia: it's harder to go from xpm to svg than the other way round, because you pretty much need to draw the vectors by hand
[20:31] <nurow> brb, I'm going to try a reboot (for more reasons than just this issue)
[20:31] <Sk1Special> titia, google gets you https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-November/129084.html
[20:31] <fulange> gordonjcp: no, no arrows, or other connection icon.  there is the wifi one, but no wired icon
[20:31] <gordonjcp> titia: if you google for something like "convert xpm to svg" you'll find there are various things that auto trace bitmaps, but the output isn't always great
[20:31] <Sk1Special> The most non-technical way to convert an xpm image to svg is to
[20:31] <Sk1Special> 1. Open it with GIMP
[20:31] <Sk1Special> 2. Save it as PNG
[20:31] <Sk1Special> 3. Open the PNG in Inkscape
[20:31] <Sk1Special> 4. Trace it, then save it as SVG.
[20:31] <FloodBot1> Sk1Special: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:31] <Guest27635> btw: network security is wpa2/psk personal
[20:31] <gordonjcp> fulange: right-click the wifi one?
[20:32] <raub> I am having an issue with the domain name being get fromt he dhcp server
[20:32] <Sk1Special> mh..im guessing copy pasteing a list makes it appear that way?
[20:32] <Ninc0mP00p> !tab fulange
[20:32] <guntbert> !pastebin | Sk1Special
[20:32] <gordonjcp> Sk1Special: lots of lines in quick succession ;-)
[20:33] <raub> This is 12.04. I can see the domain name in /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.leases, but when i type hostname -f it is not being used
[20:33] <gordonjcp> titia: what exactly are you trying to do?
[20:33] <Sk1Special> gordonjcp, guntbert yeah my bad..it just wasnt even a full line worth of info..and it sent it out as 4 even tho I only typed it on one. thats what i ment
[20:33] <fulange> gordonjcp: no joy, it only has wifi optinos for edit connections
[20:33] <titia> ok i can try to work it out now... thank you
[20:33] <fulange> nic0mp00p:  first off, nice name, but what does !tab mean?
[20:34] <Ninc0mP00p> sorry
[20:34] <guntbert> fulange: try:  type nin<tab>
[20:34] <Ninc0mP00p> dont mind me
[20:34] <Ninc0mP00p> im just a newbie
[20:35] <gordonjcp> titia: if it's something like an icon you're probably better drawing it from scratch in Inkscape
[20:35] <titia> gordonjcp: adjusting an icon...
[20:36] <fulange> guntbert:  where do i type that?  sorry, im really new lol
[20:36] <gordonjcp> titia: okay, you could just use gimp to edit the xpm and leave it as an xpm?
[20:37] <guntbert> fulange: right here, you need not type complete nicknames, they are autocompleted for you
[20:37] <BluesKaj> fulange, is this a laptop , if not do you have a usb wifi dongle connected , by any chance ?
[20:37] <fulange> guntbert: okay, kewl thanks
[20:38] <fulange> BluesKaj: no, its a desktop, no wifi card
[20:38] <nurow> reboot fixed it!
[20:38] <nurow> pvl1
[20:38] <fulange> BluesKaj: or dongle
[20:38] <BluesKaj> fulange, ok
[20:38] <nurow> mastroMint
[20:39] <titia> gordonjcp: somebody told me i had to make it svg
[20:39] <mengxuan> I want to see what params are used in a deb package build, how should i find the arguments passed in configure in a deb source pacakge?
[20:39] <nurow> dunno why but one of the many things we installed seems to have gotten it
[20:39] <titia> gordonjcp: that's ok... may i ask another question? not sure if it's ubuntu specific though...
[20:40] <nurow> actually, no. it is not fixed. *sigh*
[20:41] <mariop> Hi, how to install gcc 4.7 on 12.04.2? i have found gcc-4.7-base in the repos but it dosen't contain the compiler
[20:43] <fulange> so, what can i do to get internet?  lol
[20:44] <Jeena> I have found http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/raring/qtwebkit-source but when I try to install it I get "E: Unable to locate package qtwebkit-source" what am I doing wrong?
[20:44] <Jeena> I'm on Ubuntu 13.04
[20:44] <Dr_Willis_> Jeena:  whats the exact command you are using
[20:45] <trism> Jeena: the source packages produce several binary packages which are what you actually install
[20:45] <trism> Jeena: they are listed on that page
[20:45] <Jeena> sudo apt-get install qtwebkit-source
[20:45] <Jeena> ah
[20:45] <trism> Jeena: you probably want libqtwebkit-dev
[20:45] <BigCanOfTuna> I'm trying to install openjdk-7-jre-headless and I believe I don't have the correct sources.list settings. How can I tell which are the appropriate ones to add?
[20:45] <Dr_Willis_> !java | BigCanOfTuna
[20:45] <Jeena> will ty that
[20:46] <Dr_Willis_> BigCanOfTuna:  i think theres a ppa you add. not editing your sources.list (thats sort of old school and not common these days)
[20:46] <titia> i downloaded the tar.bz2 but which is the installer i must right click on to "Allow executing file as program"    http://askubuntu.com/questions/204681/kompozer-not-in-the-repo
[20:46] <Jeena> hm but it installed a lot of libqt4 instead of 5 which is what I use
[20:46] <Dr_Willis_> titia:  you did extract the archive first?
[20:47] <titia> yes
[20:47] <titia> there are many files
[20:47] <Dr_Willis_> titia:  you could pastebin the file listing. or read the readme file if it has one
[20:47] <trism> Jeena: libqt5webkit5-dev then
[20:47] <fulange> so, anyone have any solutions to my internet problem, or did yall give up on me?
[20:48] <t-ubuntu> Any1 frm India?
[20:48] <Jeena> ah ok thanks will try that
[20:48] <trism> Jeena: I was just going by the source package you linked which was for qt4
[20:48] <Jeena> yeah I understand that, I'm a bit confused
[20:48] <titia> could you tell me how a linux installer looks like? what is the extension?
[20:48] <rodrigograca31> half of TOR was "compromised" ? WTF?
[20:48] <rodrigograca31> link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23573048
[20:49] <trism> Jeena: best way to find the dev packages: apt-cache search -n qt webkit dev;
[20:50] <tor_> i finally got ad-hoc network up and running. problem was client would not connect with wpa/psk to the other ubuntu machine. but the funny thing is that my mobile 4G router also use wpa/psk and thee client connects just fine to this. what can be the problem here?
[20:50] <BluesKaj> fulange, open a terminal and run, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[20:50] <titia> i will pastebin...
[20:50] <Jeena> ok hm, I already had libqt5webkit5-dev installed, but the QWebView widget doesn't show up in the Qt Creator, googling said one needs to install qtwebkit-source
[20:51] <trism> Jeena: are you using qml?
[20:51] <fulange> BluesKaj: command not found
[20:51] <Jeena> I'm not sure I will try to install the qmlplugin
[20:51] <titia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5952674/
[20:52] <BluesKaj> fulange, ok , sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[20:52] <Jeena> ok that didn't help
[20:52] <silkos> what you guys recommend with flash player? Chromium?
[20:52] <Marlene_k> pvl1 : i get same error if aptitude run
[20:53] <titia> Dr_Willis_: still there?
[20:53] <AlcoLeVecchiPens> Hi guys, can I install Ubuntu in 4gb?
[20:53] <fulange> BluesKaj: error while getting interface flags: no such device
[20:53] <AlcoLeVecchiPens> I have a netbook with 4gb hard disk.. Can I install Ubuntu?
[20:54] <tsongki> AlcoLeVecchiPens, what version are you installing
[20:54] <vlt> AlcoLeVecchiPens: A basic install can be as small as around 350 MB depending on the software you want to install.
[20:54] <BluesKaj> fulange, does lspci show an ethernet nic ?
[20:54] <t-ubuntu> Anyone frm India?
[20:54] <vlt> !anyone | t-ubuntu
[20:54] <k1l_> !india | t-ubuntu
[20:55] <fulange> BluesKaj: sorry for stupid question, but how do i find that out?  type lspci in terminal?
[20:55] <t-ubuntu> k
[20:55] <BluesKaj> fulange, yes
[20:55] <t-ubuntu> thx
[20:56] <AlcoLeVecchiPens> Vlt so How much gb in root and in home? And How about swap?
[20:56] <fulange> BluesKaj: oh, okay, nope, i dont see one.  hilarious because the pc has 2!  (card and on mobo)
[20:56] <AlcoLeVecchiPens> tsongki: lubuntu 13.04
[20:56] <drbond> any more juicy news on Ubuntu Edge :)
[20:56] <tsongki> AlcoLeVecchiPens,  yeah it can be installed, depending on the packages you will install
[20:57] <k1l_> drbond: better ask in #ubuntu-touch or #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:57] <BluesKaj> fulange, have you tried both ethernets ?  I have to ask
[20:57] <fulange> BluesKaj: yea, i have.  its kewl
[20:58] <AlcoLeVecchiPens> tsongki: maybe i dont need other package.. Only preinstalled software
[20:58] <Dr_Willis_> titia:  the somewhat obvious run-whatever.sh   looks likely
[20:58] <BluesKaj> ifconfiog, in the terminal , fulange , pastebin the output
[20:58] <fulange> BluesKaj: pastebin?
[20:59] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[20:59] <titia> likely? not sure?
[21:00] <Dr_Willis_> titia:  its a common file name to RUN mozilla/firefox
[21:00] <Dr_Willis_> titia: .sh -> shell script
[21:00] <Dr_Willis_> titia:  if you want to be sure - check the apps homepage and docs/wiki/forums
[21:01] <titia> is an installer always a .sh file?
[21:01] <Dr_Willis_> titia:  i see no actual 'installer' in that package. many apps that come precompiled do NOT have an installer. Yoi just exctract the archive and run the app from the directory it makes
[21:01] <flipper88_fl> titia: Not always depends on if you're compiling from sources
[21:01] <Dr_Willis_> titia:  the use of 'installer files' in linux/ubuntu is somewhat rare
[21:02] <Dr_Willis_> titia:  the more common way would be to find a PPA for whatever it is you are trying to install
[21:02] <titia> but askubuntu.com is official is it not? http://askubuntu.com/questions/204681/kompozer-not-in-the-repo
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> titia:  anyone can post anything to askubuntu.com - other users then can vote/verify/discuss the answers
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> the best answers get the most votes in theory
[21:03] <Vivekananda> hey everyone Dr_Willis howdy
[21:03] <Vivekananda> where can i get a quickstart guide to ubuntu
[21:03] <titia> so what would you do? (easy, step by step please)
[21:03] <Vivekananda> for unity and things like quick search and all
[21:04] <fulange> BluesKaj: pasted... i hope
[21:05] <MonkeyDust> Vivekananda  is this useful http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Precise
[21:05] <MonkeyDust> (old link, moment)
[21:05] <BluesKaj> ok ful, now give us the resulting url after submitting the text
[21:05] <BluesKaj> fulange,^
[21:05] <Dr_Willis> titia:  from what i see.. you extact the archive and run that .sh file and that runs the app.
[21:06] <fulange> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5952709/
[21:06] <Vivekananda> MonkeyDust: I am very highly used to using kufper on lubuntu
[21:06] <titia> Dr_Willis: how do i put it in the menu?
[21:06] <Vivekananda> Dash is a similar thing but I want to know how to use it to the hilt
[21:06] <Dr_Willis> titia:  or check out this google hit --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallKompozer
[21:06] <Dr_Willis> titia:  make a .desktop file for it  and put that file in the proper directory
[21:07] <k1l_> Vivekananda: start from here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> titia:  or as that url i posted mentions.. there IS a ppa for it - that has .deb packages
[21:07] <titia> Dr_Willis: no but i prefer to try bluegriffon....
[21:07] <petersaints> does anyone know how to remove Ubuntu from my UEFI boot options? I already tried efibootmgr from a Live USB but once I reboot it is there again. I could just ignore it but I'd really like to fix it.
[21:07] <BluesKaj> fulange, copy and paste this into the terminal , sudo dhclient -r eth0 && sudo dhclient eth0 , then try a browser to see if it connects
[21:08] <Dr_Willis> titia:  so try it.  run that .sh and see if it works
[21:08] <fulange> BluesKaj: im doing this on a separate pc, so no copy & paste lol give me a second...
[21:09] <Vivekananda> k1l_: just a quick question. How do I launch dash using keyboard and no mouse
[21:09] <Vivekananda> is there a default shortcut or do I create one ?
[21:09] <k1l_> super key
[21:09] <BluesKaj> fulange, yes , of course , sorry about that
[21:09] <titia> does not work... maybe because i am in the guest session?
[21:10] <k1l_> titia: you cant isntall stuff in guest session. that is the sense in the guest session
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> titia:  run it from terminal. look for error messages.
[21:10] <fulange> BluesKaj: no joy.  "cannont find device eth0
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> hes not really 'installing stuff' hes running a binary from a .tar.gz archive
[21:11] <BluesKaj> fulange, well , did you have ubuntu working with 2nics previous to this install ?
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> and the binary that just worked for me was called 'bluegriffin' in that extracted directory the arvhicve made
[21:12] <Vivekananda> also another question . I downloaded vbox hdi file for ubuntu. the download zip has the virtual hd an danother file called virtualbox machine definition file. What is it for ?
[21:13] <fulange> BluesKaj: no, i was running windows.  its now a dual boot.  hilarious part?  windows internet works fine
[21:14] <BluesKaj> fulange, which nic are you connecting with on windows ?
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> Vivekananda:  i imagine its a settin file that vbox reads/imports to know how to setup the vm
[21:14] <fulange> BluesKaj: my card (gigabit ethernet adapter) same as on ubuntu
[21:15] <t-ubuntu> how do u remove xchat logs in Ubuntu?
[21:15] <t-ubuntu> Where is the folder or path?
[21:15] <titia> Dr_Willis: have a problem, have to go. i will try later. thank you for your help. you definitely do good to ubuntu (unlike those others before who were not nice...) thank you also to all the others who helped. bye bye :)
[21:15] <TheLordOfTime> did they rename "Additional Drivers" to something else when 12.10 or later was released?
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> TheLordOfTime:  it got moved to a tab under 'software-sources'  in 12.10+ i think
[21:15] <TheLordOfTime> Dr_Willis:  ok
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> jockey-text (or was it jockey-cli) is still there
[21:16] <BluesKaj> fulange, and you tried the onboard connection as well.
[21:16] <BluesKaj> on the mobo
[21:16] <fulange> BluesKaj: indeed so
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> They really need to work on this habbit of changeing names.. and making some simple script/commands to get to the proper area.
[21:16] <Vivekananda> Dr_Willis: I was wondering if it wwas useless and I should delete it :)
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> Be nice to have a 'addational-drivers' bianry that opened up the app to the right tab. ;)
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> Vivekananda:  when in doubt. check the vbox manual.
[21:17] <Guest17612> how much personal information does Ubuntu take from us when we are sending an error report?
[21:17] <BayaBaya> Hello guys, where can I get some help about kernel compilation?
[21:18] <BluesKaj> fulange, the only thing ai can think of is , sudo apt-get install --reinstall networkmanager , in the terminal
[21:18] <BluesKaj> ai = I
[21:19] <fulange> BluesKaj: unable to locate package!  perhaps that is my problem?
[21:19] <Guest17612> when i'm browsing the web and Ubuntu crashes, does the error report send the website information and such??
[21:20] <BluesKaj> fulange, try the software center , networkmanager in the search
[21:20] <Dr_Willis> t-ubuntu:  .xchat* or .config/xchat* would be my guess
[21:21] <fulange> BluesKaj: okay, i will.  thanks for all the help blue.  Ive gotta go get my kids from school, ill have to try it later.  thanks for the help.
[21:21] <BluesKaj> ful , ok cool ...later
[21:21] <BluesKaj> fulange,^
[21:21] <t-ubuntu> Dr_Willis,  where do I find that?
[21:22] <t-ubuntu> in documents or what Dr_Willis  ?
[21:22] <richwestcoast> Does anyone know who owns ubuntu?
[21:22] <richwestcoast> and where he lives so i can write him a thank you letter
[21:22] <Guest17612> is there an option to disable the Ubuntu privacy invading Zeigeist?
[21:23] <richwestcoast> the shopping lens?
[21:23] <Guest17612> i don't want Ubuntu's Zeigeist to log every website i visit, every personal i talk with, every song and video i listen and watch
[21:23] <richwestcoast> sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping
[21:24] <k1l_> Guest17612: did you take a look into the privacy settings?
[21:25] <Guest17612> can i just disable all of Zeigeist? or is it essential for the Ubuntu OS?
[21:25] <zteam> Guest17612, that can be turned off in the privacy settings on Ubuntu 13.04
[21:25] <k1l_> Guest17612: again: privacy settings
[21:25] <Guest17612> ok i'll take a look
[21:26] <zteam> Guest17612, it should also be noted that Zeigeist that does not send your searches anywhere
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> t-ubuntu:  the xchat homepage has docs on using it.. normally thers some .xchat* direcrory it keeps info in.
[21:26] <tripelb> from a root shell, how can i see a list of users?
[21:27] <k1l_> yes, zeitgeist ist not bad at all.
[21:27] <t-ubuntu> oh
[21:27] <blazemore> Dr_Willis: your "directory" typo trigger the hilight for my name...
[21:27] <tripelb> hint there is only one, me and i forgot my password
[21:27] <zteam> Guest17612, it just log your recent files to able to let you access file you was working earlier
[21:27] <blazemore> tripelb: ls /home
[21:27] <t-ubuntu> whats the main path?
[21:27] <blazemore> tripelb: or cat /etc/passwd
[21:27] <t-ubuntu> If someone can give it to me?
[21:28] <irssi-mike> I can't get sound out of the right speaker, it worked before i lost power (knocked out the cord), i've tested the speaker in windows and it sounds fine but in ubuntu nothing.
[21:28] <blazemore> t-ubuntu: ~/.xchat or similar
[21:28] <t-ubuntu> ok
[21:28] <gordonjcp> irssi-mike: right-click the wee speaker thing in the top right, pull up the sound settings, and check the correct output is set
[21:28] <blazemore> t-ubuntu: In your home directory. Files that start with a dot are hidden from the file manager list
[21:29] <Guest17612> is it safe to use this purge command? just wondering http://customizeubuntu.com/preferences/privacy/disabling-privacy-invasive-zeitgeist
[21:29] <k1l_> Guest17612: again: what is wrong with the privacy settings?
[21:29] <t-ubuntu> k
[21:30] <irssi-mike> gordonjcp: looks the same as always, after the cord was knocked out it said "restore starting sound card mixer state fail" at boot up so i reloaded the drivers and the message went away but the speaker still has no sound
[21:31] <zteam> Guest17612, Removing that package should not create any real issues for you as far as I know, but, don't see why you don't just use the privacy settings instead
[21:31] <tripelb> blazemore: got acct name. but i get error on reset, viz: passwd: Authentication token manipulation error                  :
[21:31] <blazemore> tripelb: What are you trying to do, exactly?
[21:31] <kingbeast> When saving a bash script, what extension do I use? .sh?
[21:31] <blazemore> kingbeast: It doesn't matter, but the convention is .sh
[21:32] <kingbeast> thanks blazemore
[21:32] <blazemore> kingbeast: On Linux, there's nothing actually special about the part after the last dot in the filename; it's more of a "clue"
[21:32] <irssi-mike> gordonjcp: the command was http://pastebin.com/xYN1nXzf
[21:32] <Dr_Willis> kingbeast: the first line of the bash script is more improtnat then the name/extension
[21:33] <kingbeast> blazemore, Okay, I was just curious. Trying to write one to add to my cron jobs to sync my Gdrive with grive.
[21:34] <Guest17612> zteam, since i won't use it it is probably best to just purge is, it may even use less system resources
[21:34] <blazemore> kingbeast: just make sure the first line is "#! /bin/bash" and you'll be great :)
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> kingbeast:  theres dozens if not hunderds of 'commands' that are actually bash scripts with no .sh at the end. ;)
[21:34] <blazemore> tripelb: ?
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> kingbeast:  also perl, python and so forth.. its all about the first line of the file
[21:34] <tripelb> blazemore: stupid human changed password to make it easier. forgot new password. want to reset it. now in recovery kernel root shell. (12.04 from iso. no updates, no net connection)
[21:34] <blazemore> tripelb: You are logged in as root now?
[21:34] <gordonjcp> !password | tripelb
[21:35] <icywater> hi
[21:35] <gordonjcp> tripelb: you've read all that, right?
[21:35] <kingbeast> thanks blazemore and Dr_Willis
[21:35] <Guest17612> i'm sure it takes processing power and memory to log everything you do on your Ubuntu computer "Zeitgeist is a service which logs the user's activities and events (files opened, websites visited, conversations hold with other people, etc.) and makes the information available to other applications."
[21:35] <gordonjcp> Guest17612: not much, in the grand scheme of things
[21:36] <zteam> Guest17612, if you turn a feature off, it won't use any resources at all, a side from a a few Megabytes on your harddrive that is
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> Guest17612:  I imagine the flash banner ads in your browser suck down more cpu/memory
[21:36] <gordonjcp> Guest17612: every so often it'll rattle through some files and index them a bit like slocate does
[21:36] <blazemore> Guest17612: It doesn't make a whole lot of difference, why don't you try with and without, and see?
[21:36] <kingbeast> oh one more blazemore it would probably be best for me to add that one to the daily crons right?
[21:36] <Guest17612> Dr_Willis, Flash Block addon :P
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> Guest17612:  thats taking cpu also!
[21:36] <blazemore> kingbeast: Well that entirely depends on what you want to do...
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> Must conserve cpu! cant let it get over 1%! ;P
[21:36] <k1l_> Guest17612: in the end its a service. its not intended to spy on you. you are focusing on the wrong part
[21:37] <zteam> Guest17612, But uninstall it if you want, just remember to check to see so that APT wouldn't remove anything you really want on the ride :)
[21:37] <Dr_Willis> zegtiest is handy if you do a lot of word processing/doc/image/video creation to keep track of things
[21:37] <Dr_Willis> but i dont do much of that. ;)
[21:38] <kingbeast> ok thanks blazemore
[21:38] <tripelb> blazemore: i am already in root, having done the ubotto plan before I asked in here. then asked to get username. got it. then the same ptoblem - with the error message i stated above.
[21:38] <Guest17612> a malicious app could have access to your personal Zeitgeist logs, and anyone using your computer
[21:38] <Dr_Willis> a malicious app could do anything to anything.. in your home.
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> so with that logic.. dont connect to the internet.
[21:39] <tripelb> blazemore: REPEATED message --> stupid human changed password to make it easier. forgot new password. want to reset it. now in recovery kernel root shell. (12.04 from iso. no updates, no net connection)
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> just leave the pc turned off. :)
[21:39]  * wilee-nilee imagines the sky is falling
[21:39] <k1l_> Guest17612: in that case it coule read the data anyway. so there is no reason for or against zeitgeist
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> tripelb:  recovery console? as root you should be able to do 'passwd username' and set a new password.. or do you mean you are on a live cd?
[21:40] <Guest17612> is it safe to u=purge geoclue also? "GeoClue is a software framework that enables geospatial awareness in applications. In human language: physical location tracking software."
[21:40] <zteam> Guest17612, If you have a malicious application installed on tour software, you have far more to worry about, than zeitgeist to get your filenames
[21:40] <DBoyz> hi. how do i solve this problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5952809/
[21:40] <tripelb> blazemore: oops wrong repeat. i am on a tint ohone. will send error message to you again
[21:40] <DBoyz> seems that i have build essential installed
[21:40] <zteam> Guest17612,  that application would be able to copy your entire home folder
[21:40] <Guest17612> i know geoclue is used to sync the time, but i don't mind using the old fashioned manual set up of time
[21:41] <DBoyz> pkg-config is installed too
[21:41] <k1l_> Guest17612: if you dont want it, remove it. but dont use that false arguments to justify it
[21:42] <tripelb> blazemore: passwd: Authentication token manipulation error     >passwd: password unchanged
[21:42] <k1l_> Guest17612: but be aware that alot of desktop-apps/services rely on that both services.
[21:43] <Guest17612> k1l_, what else does Ubuntu OS need Geoclue for, besides tracking your location to give you the correct time?
[21:43] <k1l_> Guest17612: that depends on your usecase. weather apps etc.
[21:44] <tripelb> dr willis, not on cd. i get toot. it will not accept password. error message in entry to blackmore just above authentication token manipulation error.
[21:44] <Guest17612> i'm sure you can just manually set up a location for weather apps, you don't need to be tracked for that
[21:44]  * DBoyz waits for an answer
[21:46] <k1l_> Guest17612: that depends on the apps. and again: if you dont want it remove it. but be aware that something can break
[21:47] <wilee-nilee> Guest17612, For someone with these concerns I would think using the IRC with an IO showing would be a problem.
[21:47] <wilee-nilee> IP*
[21:47] <Guest17612> as long as Ubuntu OS doesn't break, it should be fine
[21:48] <tripelb> Dr_Willis:  willis, not on cd. i get toot. it will not accept password. error message in entry to blackmore just above authentication token manipulation error.
[21:48] <Guest17612> wilee-nilee, it could be a proxy :P
[21:48] <wilee-nilee> Guest17612, Thats your word, and that does not really matter.
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> tripelb:  err. you did remount / to be read-write?
[21:50] <rendoorf> What happens to a video when you delete it from your windows partition through ubuntu?
[21:50] <k1l_> rendoorf: its deleted?
[21:50] <k1l_> rendoorf: what do you want to know?
[21:50] <rendoorf> yeah but is it in the recycle bin or is it permanent?
[21:50] <Scub> depends on how it was removed
[21:51] <thecodethinker> I just built and installed ogre and for some reason the lib isn't being detected. It's in the /usr/local/lib path and that path is in ld.so.conf.... so why isn't any program finding that lib
[21:51] <Scub> an rm -rf will not go to any lost and found, but it will leave the inode intact
[21:51] <thecodethinker> ?
[21:51] <rendoorf> I mounted the windows partition and selected it and pressed the delete key in nautilus
[21:51] <Scub> a shred -vfuz won't be so nice
[21:51] <tripelb> Dr_Willis:  i am not booting from a cd. i an in a root shell after choosing recovery kernel... it will not accept password. error message after I give new password twice, passwd: Authentication token manipulation error.
[21:52] <jrib> tripelb, Dr_Willis: ensure / is mounted rw
[21:53] <Scub> you can check the 'trash bin' after mounting the windows partition once again to see if its there, otherwise you'll have to do a bit of fs carving to get her back out
[21:53] <rendoorf> Ok. I don't want it just want to make sure it's gone. Thanks. I'll look into shred.
[21:54] <tripelb> Dr_Willis: since i do not understand "remount to be read write" then i did not do it. ---- context. i have done this in earlier ubuntus like 9.04 .. and no problem. i feel ignorant, even dense.
[21:55] <tripelb> jrib what is the exact command you want me to run, please.
[21:55] <jrib> tripelb: what is the output of « mount »
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> tripelb:  / is mounted read only. You cant write to the password file - thus cant change the password
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> you would want / mounted read only - if you were going to fsck the filesystem
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/213584/how-to-remount-a-read-only-folder-as-readwrite
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> mount -o remount,rw /
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> that syntax looks wrong. ;)  i dont think it needs a ,
[22:00] <jrib> Dr_Willis: that's right (they're both options)
[22:00] <crankharder> Is there any command that, given an interface, will drop just the address to STDOUT.  I'm trying to avoid ifconfig/ip | grep/awk if I can
[22:00] <Dr_Willis> that just seems.. weird..i cant think of anything else using a comma as that
[22:00] <Dr_Willis> ;) perhaps its mount's oldness sneeking in
[22:00] <jrib> crankharder: you can probably get pretty close with ip
[22:01] <mmercer> crankharder: you could try grep ddress /etc/network/interfaces
[22:01] <blah> can somebody help me installing ubuntu on a windows 8 oem? I have tried using wubi to install it and this is what I get after wubi downloads the image and reboots: File: \ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr State: 0xc000007b Information: Could not load application or Operating System because of the lack of the required file or errors in this file
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | blah wubi does not work in uefi
[22:02] <OerHeks> blah told you, wubi is not going to work on windows 8
[22:02] <blah> i disabled uefi mode and turned on legacy
[22:03] <tripelb> jrib: several lines 8 to be exact output from mount and difficult to type with one thumb.  1st is /dev/sda5 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)     That woild be the ubuntu partition. it is the only one starting with /dev… alsothe only one with sd# in it ir type ext4 (nothing at all about the windows partitions!! That will be my next question.)
[22:03] <k1l_> blah, just make a real install, not with wubi
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> blah, Does not matter you have a uefi gpt partitioning and wubi is basically not supported.
[22:03] <blah> gotcha
[22:03] <OerHeks> and b sure windows8/fastboot is disabled.
[22:03] <blah> so i partition my disk, install ubuntu
[22:04] <tripelb> Dr_Willis: that makes sense. tho ubottu missed ot in the howto.
[22:04] <blah> is it possible that I can install windows 8 on top of it?
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> blah, besides the wiki and help here, here is a helpful thread. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[22:04] <kingbeast> Would anyone be willing to double check(by reading) my bash script, just to double check my work? It's the first one I have written and would like confirmation.
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> blah, Have W8 backed up a clone would be the smartest move.
[22:05] <blah> sounds good to me
[22:05] <blah> thanks!
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> i always take out my windows hd.. and put in a nice SSD for linux. :) and keep the windows hd in a vault under heavy security  - in case it tryes to escape.
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> ;P
[22:06] <blazemore> tripelb: Sorry, did you get it sorted?
[22:06] <blazemore> tripelb: The answer is mount -rw -o remount /
[22:07] <gotwig> I can understand why click packages are so important for canonical. Apt-get is very very slow
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. slightly differnt syntax then ->   mount -o remount,rw /
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> guessing -rw is a shortcut for -o rw
[22:07] <georoot> hi can someone help me how to make disk image from source code
[22:08] <blazemore> georoot: What are you actually trying to do?
[22:08] <gotwig> can you tell me how so..? I use magaia right now with rpmdrake, before that I used yum  , and damn, you dont believe me how fast it is. about 14 packages , 120 mb, installed in under 20 seconds
[22:08] <georoot> well i tried compiling according to lfs
[22:08] <georoot> and was successfull
[22:08] <gotwig> georoot: ?
[22:08] <tripelb> i Dr_Willis Bingo. the command DID NOT CHANGE THE OUTPUT OF MOUNT (huh) but it did let me change the password. Thank you. ty blazemore too. // AND how where what can I read to learn more, how yo inderstand linux shell commands. not everything or i will be overwhelmed. just more than learn code the hard way.
[22:08] <georoot> now i want to know how to make iso distro
[22:08] <blazemore> !details | georoot What are you ACTUALLY trying to do?
[22:09] <gotwig> georoot: do you want to do an ubuntu spin?
[22:10] <georoot> i compiled my custom linux os on my system. but i dont know how to create .iso disk image.I tried using makeisoof but it didnt seem to work out
[22:10] <tripelb> now.. please, how do i see the windows partitions so i can store files on them. (why was it easy on gnome2 and no longer?)
[22:10] <gotwig> georoot: dont ask here, but on the linux from scratch channel o.0 lol
[22:11] <gotwig> tripelb: ?
[22:11] <gotwig> tripelb: try to find them with "Disk utility"
[22:11] <blazemore> tripelb: It is in the sidebar of the file manager
[22:12] <Vivekananda> I used the downloaded vdi for virtualbox. I am trying to find all possible resolutions for the ubuntu inside but the vdi install but it does not gimme all the options
[22:12] <gotwig> Vivekananda: "resolutions" ?
[22:13] <tripelb> gotwig i am here. plus now unity thinks i am on a laptop and all the text is huge so i cannot get to the display window buttons to change it. blazemore
[22:13] <gotwig> tripelb: unity does not scale things up
[22:13] <Vivekananda> gotwig: I went into appearance and displays
[22:14] <tripelb> blazemore: when i put in a disk i see it therek
[22:14] <Vivekananda> but I dont find the correct resolution ie 1600 by 900 for the screen
[22:14] <gotwig> Vivekananda: oh, maybe you miss the guest addition drivers?
[22:14] <tripelb>  blazemore but no other partitions are there. now what?
[22:15] <Vivekananda> gotwig: where do I enable it ?
[22:15] <Vivekananda> I have not done any special setup yet
[22:15] <gotwig> Vivekananda: well, you gotta have to install it
[22:15] <blazemore> tripelb: if you run the command "sudo fdisk -l" do you see, in the output, anything which looks like it might be your Windows drive?
[22:15] <spikespiegel> has anyone's system ever just felt sluggish after an install as if something didn't go right during install?
[22:16] <Vivekananda> I just installed the vbox in win7 and started up the vdi image also downloaded
[22:16] <blazemore> Vivekananda: In order to get the best experience running Ubuntu inside Virtualbox, you need to install the Guest Additions
[22:16] <blazemore> Vivekananda: This will give you way more features including more resolutions, pointer sharing and stuff. Look on the Virtualbox website
[22:18] <tripelb> gotwig gisk utility sees pata host adaptor under which is the 80g hd and that ahows an unmounted 34 g partition (there are more) i clicked on mount still nothing in l-sidebar
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> tripelb:  when in doubt check output of 'mount' to see if got mounted.
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> tripelb:  or try mounting by hand to look for errors with mounting it.
[22:19] <tripelb> i cannot see the entire screen nor change it from laptop. (whines and cries)
[22:20] <toottut> i have a question about booting from USB
[22:20] <toottut> i get blank screen after setting boot from USB in my bios
[22:20] <toottut> any help?
[22:21] <tripelb> Dr_Willis: i need to learn how to mount by hand. how to check...   i will look for a webpage. bbs
[22:21] <toottut> anyone?
[22:22] <hw4ng3r> ..
[22:22] <daftykins> toottut: how did you make the flash drive up? what computer? is it new?
[22:22] <daftykins> wilee-nilee: wb
[22:22] <toottut> i5 lga1156 platform
[22:22] <toottut> unetbootin
[22:22] <tripelb> gotwig: Dr_Willis blazemore - reboot restored screen size. whew.
[22:22] <wilee-nilee> ;) had to boot to W8
[22:23] <daftykins> toottut: unetbootin has some flaws with UEFI in particular - if you're not booting in legacy mode, remake it with something else
[22:23] <toottut> im in w7
[22:24] <toottut> daftykins: can i use magiciso to extract the files instead?
[22:24] <ESphynx> Hey guys, my new laptop won't boot the LiveCD ... fb: conflicting fb hw usage nouveaufb vs efi vga  ... any clue?
[22:24] <daftykins> toottut: installed as UEFI?
[22:24] <daftykins> toottut: no, grab universal USB installer from pendrivelinux.com instead for a try
[22:24] <wilee-nilee> So I am trying to make a copy of a dvd a owned Hollywood release, one can make one I understand but am having a bit of a problem, I can't do it.
[22:25] <toottut> daftykins: this shouldn't be corrupted dl file, yes?
[22:25] <daftykins> huh?
[22:25] <daftykins> i don't understand what you're asking
[22:25] <wilee-nilee> copy=backup here
[22:25] <toottut> sorry, i meant this isn't the cause of corrupted dl file is it?
[22:26] <daftykins> toottut: what's the cause of a corrupted - DLL? Windows DLL? i really have no idea what you mean
[22:27] <daftykins> wilee-nilee: are you dd'ing it to disk and it's getting stuck at the exact same point?
[22:27] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: pm me
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> daftykins, No just trying via brasero to start with, with libdvdcss2 loaded to run it.
[22:27] <Timmy> what will happen if campaign don't receive enough funds?
[22:28] <daftykins> !touch | Timmy
[22:28] <wilee-nilee> daftykins, I did try a dd and it did not work, but I'm not up on dd
[22:28] <tripelb> i wanted a partition list. Did info fdisk to learn. but >fdisk -l /dev/sda  answered with  cannot open /dev/sda  --- what do i say to get a list?
[22:28] <daftykins> wilee-nilee: did it terminate at a given spot? could be ARCCoS
[22:29] <pvl1> tripelb: sudo
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  newer dvd released in the last few years - CAN have exctra copy protection that prevents DD from copying them
[22:29] <daftykins> tripelb: 'sudo fdisk -l' with no further parameters will do fine
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> daftykins, I forget, I should be doing this in linux though, Im in MS now so I will ask again later.
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, I think that is the problem a brand new barely old release.
[22:30] <tux_> hey
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  -  I had to resort to useing wine and 'dvdfab' to copy some newer disks
[22:30] <tripelb> sudo I COULD HAVE HAD A V8 + THONK
[22:30] <tux_> my shity system keeps shuting down after 10 minutes or so
[22:30] <daftykins> wilee-nilee: surely the objective is all you care about?
[22:30] <norma> hola
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  i have new dvd movies that  i legally bought. that i cant play on my PC (wndiows or linux) or even in a real (old) dvd player. I have to use the new blueray player
[22:30] <tux_> but it goes into sleep mode or something
[22:30] <tux_> how can I change that?
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> daftykins, Yeah, bu my memory is faulty is all.
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> but*
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  i ended up using dvdfab to rip/image/deprotect the disk to make a copy i could watch in the dvd player
[22:31] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, Looking at that right now thanks. ;)
[22:32] <Loshki> wilee-nilee: dvdbackup or vobcopy may work. The ultimate ripper is probably windows Anydvd
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  i also wrote a rather nasty review about it on amazon ;) you wouldent think 'The Love Boat Season 1' would need such drastic copy protection..
[22:32] <daftykins> wilee-nilee: DVD decrypter under Windows is worth a try ofc
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  dvdfab does work in wine. ;) or at least it used to. not tried the others.
[22:32] <tux_> HEY my god damn system goes to sleep after 10 minutes or so, how can I change that?
[22:32] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, Heh, TMI. ;)
[22:33] <wilee-nilee> That was a funny show though
[22:33] <pvl1> tux_: what system
[22:33] <tux_> slitaz
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> wife wanted it.. it was $10 on sale.. she couldent watch it 'legally' without me jumping through hoops.
[22:33] <wilee-nilee> daftykins, Thanks I will check it out.
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, That is certainly a motivator, harmony.
[22:34] <Vivekananda> blazemore: thanks got it working . Another funny thing. Ctrl+a is not working on my guest ubuntu
[22:34] <pvl1> tux_: this is n ubuntu support channel
[22:34] <Vivekananda> ooo I guess the right ctrl wont work right ?
[22:34] <tux_> who cares, just suggest something
[22:34] <tripelb> Dr_Willis: et  al. ok all my partitions are there on fdisk. >mount does not list them at all... only stui like proc sysfs udev devpts ... so what about my sda1..6 (it does list /dev/sda5 which is the ubuntu partition.
[22:34] <pvl1> tux_: see whats putting it to sleep in the logs
[22:35] <tux_> hm
[22:35] <alexis_> Bonjour
[22:35] <MotherMGA> Hello, I've been trying to track down an issue with Chromium + Flash in Ubuntu 13.04.  Basically, flash will render  and then it will black out, or display various artifacts, making flash unusable.  Does anyone know about this?
[22:36] <pvl1> MotherMGA: how did you install and enable flash
[22:36] <syn-ack> I'm sure the forums might?
[22:36] <tsongki> tux_  have you change your setting in power under system settings
[22:36] <proxypirate> hey guys i am trying to update all of my installed ports when i ran into a few errors, i was able to fix the errors from ruby-gems but now i have run into a build error with "libstreams" and i am not sure exactly how to fix this error, can someone look at this pastebin i have uploaded and see if you might know how to resolve this problem: http://pastebin.com/izjZFnUD
[22:36] <proxypirate> http://pastebin.com/izjZFnUD
[22:36] <proxypirate> oops
[22:36] <tripelb> blazemore: thanks. i just saw yr fdisk suggestion (had to think it up on my own. now we are in synch ): et  al. ok all my partitions are there on fdisk. >mount does not list them at all... only stui like proc sysfs udev devpts ... so what about my sda1..6 (it does list /dev/sda5 which is the ubuntu partition.
[22:36] <MotherMGA> pvl1: I installed the adobe flash plugin from the software center
[22:36] <proxypirate> the only thing i can think of is possibly deinstalling the libstreams package from ports and then try and update the ports again with portmaster...?
[22:37] <MotherMGA> pvl1: I think that is only firefox though. I don't think I've configured anything for chromium.
[22:38] <daftykins> proxypirate: wouldn't reading the error about xterm and looking it up be the best plan first?
[22:38] <pvl1> MotherMGA: moment
[22:39] <mac> hello.. can someone please explain to me, what is kworker/0:0 (and other numbers) ?
[22:39] <proxypirate> daftykins: i didnt see any error about xterm?...
[22:39] <daftykins> proxypirate: see line 42
[22:40] <daftykins> proxypirate: actually maybe that one's just informational
[22:40] <proxypirate> hmmm...ya i dont think thats an actual error
[22:40] <daftykins> maybe just try the suggestion it makes then, yeah
[22:40] <proxypirate> and i set my locale to UTF-8 with EXPORT for the time being while i build the packages
[22:40] <pvl1> MotherMGA: http://goo.gl/yTrk
[22:41] <daftykins> though uh - you realise this is an ubuntu support channel and you seem to be talking about freebsd? ;x
[22:41] <proxypirate> oh wow...shit i am so sorry!
[22:41] <daftykins> XD
[22:41] <proxypirate> haha i thought i was posting this in #freebsd
[22:41] <proxypirate> haha!
[22:41] <daftykins> i did kinda wonder wth ports was
[22:42] <mac> hello.. can someone please explain to me, what is kworker/0:1 (and other numbers) ?
[22:42] <alexis_>  /join #ubuntu-fr
[22:43] <pvl1> mac http://askubuntu.com/questions/33640/kworker-what-is-it-and-why-is-it-hogging-so-much-cpu
[22:43] <mac> thank u
[22:43] <pvl1> no problem
[22:43] <tsongki> hey guys i am just experimenting with my gparted live and totally messed my whole hdd. Can you suggests any good reference site or forum for study
[22:43] <MotherMGA> pvl1: I did as the instructions said. now its... different. but still broken.
[22:44] <pvl1> MotherMGA: it still goes black
[22:44] <pvl1> ?
[22:44] <MotherMGA> pvl1: its different every time I refresh, but most of the time it goes black
[22:45] <pvl1> MotherMGA: did u kill all instances of chromeium
[22:45] <MotherMGA> pvl1: all chromium-browser processes are stopped, yeah
[22:45] <tripelb> summary: fdisk sees all. size adjusted soi can work diskutility graphically. now other partitions show up in sidebar -- bit all look alike (damn icons) till i click. THANK YOU MASTERS dr_
[22:46] <pvl1> i gotta bounce, google around
[22:47] <Marlene_k> pvl1 : aptitude always get error
[22:47] <tripelb> et al dr_nowgone blazemore gotwig pvl1  daftykins et al i admire you and want to learn more linux
[22:47] <MotherMGA> pvl1: chrome://plugins says I'm still on adobe flash player, but there are two versions http://i.imgur.com/o9Xe31w.png
[22:48] <daftykins> tripelb: do it! :)
[22:48] <MotherMGA> pvl1: disabling the original version doesn't help
[22:50] <tripelb> thanks any book or site suggestions?  signed mistress belgian (the beer, i am usa) triple bier
[22:50] <tripelb> daftykins: one cimment up
[22:50] <blazemore> !fstab | tripelb
[22:50] <MotherMGA> pvl1: also, the instructions you had me do just ended up with me copying the same plugin that was already running into the plugin directory and running that.
[22:51] <MotherMGA> pvl1: I think its erroneous or outdated.
[22:51] <MotherMGA> pvl1: yeah, that article was from 2009.
[22:51] <daftykins> tripelb: erm i just forced myself to use it for a bit, or set myself tasks like create a web server basically. i love command line too so that helped
[22:55] <tripelb> blazemore: fstab shows only the ubuntu part and swap.   even tho the windowd partitions are mounted and accessible to gui               >cannot get to to erase text>damfon>shows
[22:56] <tripelb> blazemore: just telling you cause it seems paradoxical.
[22:56] <daftykins> tripelb: that's because fstab is for permanent mounts. you could edit it and add your drives so they're all permanently mounted at /media/oneofthosewindowsdrives/
[22:56] <tripelb> b
[22:56] <daftykins> tripelb: just mounting once doesn't automagically edit fstab y'see
[23:03] <Moe> mofjnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[23:03] <Moe> danley! you are horrid
[23:03] <bnijk> what's the best rxvt package?
[23:03] <Moe> poppo
[23:04] <Moe> enr is a lier
[23:05] <Moe> is their talk or just people joining and leaving?
[23:05] <Moe> ?
[23:05] <Moe> ?
[23:05] <scodger> joing and leaving
[23:05] <Moe> ?
[23:05] <scodger> leaving and joining
[23:05] <Moe> CORRECT!
[23:05] <scodger> +1
[23:05] <Moe> A+
[23:06] <Moe> and 1/2
[23:06] <Moe> zello is better
[23:06] <scodger> zello
[23:06] <bnijk> mmn..
[23:06] <Vivekananda> my keyboard is screwed now. I am getting a ' on pressing -
[23:06] <bnijk> best game for ubuntu in repos?
[23:06] <Moe> zello?
[23:06] <Pici> Shall we get back to support then?
[23:06] <Moe> TORCAS
[23:06] <Moe> TORCS
[23:07] <Moe> and thats it
[23:07] <scarab> teeworlds
[23:07] <Moe> ?
[23:07] <Pici> !best
[23:07] <Moe> I agree with ubottu
[23:08] <scodger> that sounds like something a bot would say
[23:08] <Moe> cabbage
[23:08] <Moe> who is a bot?
[23:08] <Moe> scodger, who's a bot
[23:08] <Pici> !bot
[23:09] <Moe> AAHA YOU ARE A BOT ubottu
[23:09] <Vivekananda> anyone ?
[23:09] <scodger> @Moe i was trying to be sarcastic at ubottu's last comment
[23:09] <Vivekananda> installed a new vbox and using a downloaded image vdi for vbox
[23:09] <Moe> but now it's serious
[23:10] <Vivekananda> I am not getting the correct keypress value
[23:10] <Moe> ? So what?
[23:11] <Moe> ?
[23:11] <Moe> ?\
[23:12] <Moe>  more joining and leaving?
[23:12] <Moe> or leaving and joining>
[23:12] <xkernel> is there a way to install a local deb package with dependencies?
[23:13] <Moe> ya
[23:13] <Moe>  
[23:13] <Moe>  
[23:13] <Moe>  
[23:13] <FloodBot1> Moe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:14] <Moe> MY FURNACE CAUGHT ON FIRE!
[23:15] <Vivekananda> keyboard problem kind of solved
[23:15] <Vivekananda> now trying to connect to host printer
[23:15] <daftykins> Moe: do you have a question?
[23:16] <reactor16> hi all
[23:17] <Moe> yes
[23:17] <daftykins> reactor16: hi
[23:17] <reactor16> question to extract specific file from large tgz do i need to have space greater than tgz file ?
[23:18] <fmapE> Anybody have experience with the TEW-805UB USB WiFi adaptor on ubuntu?
[23:18] <jrib> reactor16: no
[23:19] <reactor16> it take long with no file extracte :(
[23:19] <jrib> reactor16: what are you executing?
[23:19] <reactor16> tar -xf isis/isis.tgz --wildcards --no-anchored 'config*'
[23:19] <reactor16> isis.tgz is about 37gb
[23:21] <jrib> reactor16: I did not know you could pass patterns to tar
[23:21] <jrib> reactor16: is it still slow if you just pass one single config file path?
[23:21] <reactor16> ?
[23:22] <reactor16> the file contain backup of old linux distro
[23:22] <reactor16> is there faster way to do that ?
[23:23] <uhnen87> Hello. I can't seem to get pub-key SSH working on ubuntu-server. None of the tutorials worked. "Authentication method 'public key'  with key 'redacted' failed.
[23:26] <reactor16> it seem tar try to decompress whole file to extract specific file , that why take long ?
[23:27] <daftykins> reactor16: maybe try reading the man page for tar
[23:29] <cheenpo> anybody in here use nfdump… or know if there is a channel for that?  (apologies for the spam)
[23:30] <jrib> reactor16: did you try what I suggested?
[23:30] <reactor16> what you said ?
[23:30] <reactor16> i'm newbie samething ?
[23:31] <jrib> reactor16: it probably has to seek to find your file (I guess; we should look up how tar is implemented), but I doubt it decompresses everything to disk.
[23:31] <jrib> reactor16: is it still slow if you just pass one single config file path?
[23:31] <reactor16> yes
[23:32] <reactor16> i tried to extract sigle file but its too slow
[23:32] <reactor16> you think it try to decompress whole file ?
[23:32] <daftykins> i have no idea how tar works but i've seen archives that work like that
[23:38]  * alfacard is backkk
[23:38] <javier_> Hi! I have problems with my wireless router since a long time that I couldn't fix even asking to some helpful people on this chat. But, sometimes ago, we decided to install wicd together with network manager to see if there was any improvement. There wasn't, but now I have both of them together and there are some conflicts. I would like to unistall wicd, but "sudo apt-get remove wicd" will make my internet to dissapear completelly (I believe it removes a nm
[23:38] <javier_>  dependency with it). How could I unistall wicd and go back to the normal default configuration of nm,? Thanks a lot!
[23:38] <jrib> reactor16: http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/html_node/Standard.html that suggests to me tar reads the first header block, skips to the next (because it has filesize), skips to the next, etc. while looking for your file.
[23:39] <alfacard> ar15nut ar15nut ar15nut ar15nut !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:40] <reactor16> jrib, what to do ?
[23:40] <jrib> reactor16: leave it while you sleep?
[23:40] <reactor16> my god
[23:41] <daftykins> javier_: perhaps remove wicd then reinstall network-manager by package name
[23:41] <reactor16> jrib, thank you anyway
[23:42] <reactor16> i don't have choice
[23:43] <juls> hi everyone
[23:43] <juls> i need some help
[23:43] <javier_> daftykins, that's something stange there. If I do sudo apt-get remove wicd, and I remove wicd (successfully), I go and take a look at the processes and tehre is a wicd process from the user root. I actually can still find wicd in the program list on the launcher... what' happening?
[23:44] <javier_> daftykins, could it be the file wicd-daemon which is still there? If I make sudo apt-get remove wicd-daemon, i won't see more wicd processes, neither the program on the list, but network manager will not be able to connect neither (not even a wired connection)
[23:45] <juls> javier- kill de process and them run de comand in console aptitude remove --purge *** here *** is de name of the program
[23:45] <javier_> daftykins, i think that the daemon from wicd has been installed instead of the nm daemon (if such thing exists)
[23:45] <daftykins> javier_: well you'd likely need to restart / logout+in to kill it permanently
[23:45] <juls> aptitude remove --purge wicd
[23:46] <javier_> daftykins, juls, ok, I will try to restart and see how it looks like. If wicd is still there, I will try juls option. Thanks!
[23:46] <juls> i need some help i have ipod touch 4g ios 6.1.2 and xubuntu 12.04
[23:46] <juls> but mi ipod does mount automaticly
[23:47] <juls> when i run lsusb is there
[23:47] <juls> someone can help me?
[23:49] <juls> please help me
[23:49] <javier_> daftykins, juls, it's as weird as I said. There is still wicd there, executed by root user, after log in/out. Sudo apt-get remove --purge wicd doesn't work, says: wicd is not installed, so not removed
[23:50] <daftykins> javier_: anything wicd related left in /etc/init.d ?
[23:51] <daftykins> javier_: i think putting nm back on is more pertinent than being paranoid wicd remains
[23:52] <javier_> daftykins, but how to put it back? if I say sudo apt-get install  network-manager, says it's already installed
[23:52] <javier_> daftykins, but I find conflict between them, and have to manually stop wicd each time for nm to connect
[23:52] <Lobosque> I have a raid 10 using intel matrix raid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Matrix_RAID), When I try to install ubuntu, it does not recognize the raid partition. Is there a way to fix this? (I tried to install 13.04)
[23:52] <daftykins> javier_: interesting
[23:53] <daftykins> javier_: do sudo apt-get install --reinstall network-manager
[23:53] <daftykins> Lobosque: is it seeing individual disks instead?
[23:54] <Lobosque> daftykins, I don't remember now, I'm back on windows =x, but I think so
[23:54] <cuddylier> How do I check the ports used on an IP?
[23:55] <MoPac> Hello - I know this sounds like a stupid "Google it" question, but I'm looking for documentation on the ubuntu software center sync functionality, and I can't seem to find it. Who is storing the information about installed packages? How is it encrypted? etc
[23:55] <MoPac> cuddylier: Net Activity Viewer is a handy tool for that
[23:55] <gr33n7007h> cuddylier, nmap
[23:55] <daftykins> Lobosque: i see it needs managing with mdam or similar, not sure if that means you need to install/configure something before you can install to such a RAID - no experience i'm afraid
[23:56] <cuddylier> MoPac I was using the command sudo netstat -lpn |grep :8123 to see the ports used on any IP
[23:56] <cuddylier> There is no way to specify an IP with netstat?
[23:56] <daftykins> cuddylier: you want to see what ports are *listening* ?
[23:56] <cuddylier> Yes
[23:56] <cuddylier> Well being used
[23:56] <daftykins> on the local system?
[23:56] <cuddylier> Yes
[23:56] <daftykins> netstat -tuln i usually use
[23:56] <cuddylier> I am on SSH for the system
[23:57] <cuddylier> I want to see the active ports for a specific IP on the system though
[23:57] <daftykins> oh it has multiple interfaces?
[23:57] <daftykins> i'll bet netstat's man page has info on that
[23:57] <juls> please i8 need help i dont know how mount ipod touch 4g with xubutu 12.04
[23:57] <juls> the ipod doesnt mount automatticly
[23:58] <daftykins> juls: by 'mount' it - do you mean for syncing music? just running a music program surely would work
[23:58] <hw4ng3r> exit
[23:58] <FoxyRK9> I run Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on my netbook and I have m3u files
[23:58] <FoxyRK9> Playlist files
[23:58] <FoxyRK9> but my MP3 Player will not read them
[23:58] <FoxyRK9> anyway to convert them into readable playlist files?
[23:58] <juls> no, i use gtkpod for that
[23:59] <juls> but when i run lsusb is there
[23:59] <juls> but not are mount