[04:15] <a16g_> JackYu, ping
[04:22] <ypwong> JackYu, ping
[04:33] <smartboyhw> :O So many people pinging JackYu such early LOL
[04:33] <smartboyhw> How are you ypwong ?
[05:20] <ypwong> smartboyhw, really? who else
[05:20] <ypwong> he's famous :)
[05:23] <smartboyhw> ypwong, ouch, I didn't realize that a16g_ is you:P
[05:24] <ypwong> smartboyhw, xchat switched over to another nick after re-connect
[05:24] <smartboyhw> ypwong, oh
[06:12] <JackYu> a16g_, hi
[06:13] <smartboyhw> JackYu, a16g_ is ypwong :P
[06:13] <ypwong> JackYu, hi
[06:13] <JackYu> ypwong, hi
[06:13] <ypwong> JackYu, i asked steve about seeds
[06:13] <JackYu> ypwong, any good news?
[06:13] <JackYu> smartboyhw, :).
[06:14] <ypwong> JackYu, shouldn't be problem, but can you write me "why UbuntuKylin wants seeds instead of the existing ubuntu-defaults-builder setup. "
[06:14] <JackYu> ypwong, sure. need I cc to steve?
[06:16] <ypwong> JackYu, up to you
[06:34] <smartboyhw> ypwong, eh!?
[06:35] <smartboyhw> I thought you guys are using seeds already...
[06:35] <ypwong> not really
[06:36] <smartboyhw> ypwong, you should.
[06:36] <smartboyhw> That's what everybody is using.
[06:37] <ypwong> seeds has its own maintenance problem
[06:38] <smartboyhw> ypwong, why?
[06:38] <ypwong> if you don't want to deviate too much you need to sync with ubuntu's
[06:39] <smartboyhw> ypwong, eh huh
[06:39] <smartboyhw> Well, look at Edubuntu
[06:39] <smartboyhw> They use Unity also as you
[06:39] <smartboyhw> And they use seeeds
[06:39] <smartboyhw> *seeds
[06:40] <ypwong> there's no alternatives in the past
[06:41] <ypwong> seeds or not, it's flexibility vs maintenance
[06:42] <ypwong> we have to learn from edubuntu and ubuntu studio for how things work :)
[06:42] <smartboyhw> ypwong, you already got UbuntuKylin Developers Team
[06:42] <smartboyhw> ypwong, Ubuntu Studio doesn't even have a developer that has uploader right
[06:42] <smartboyhw> *rights
[06:42] <smartboyhw> And we still use seeds
[06:42] <ypwong> do you have the need to?
[06:43] <smartboyhw> And you guys are backed by Canonical
[06:43] <ypwong> eh that's not the point
[06:43] <smartboyhw> ypwong, well yes, since we have different tasks (e.g. audio, video, -desktop)
[06:43] <ypwong> why no one apply for upload right?
[06:44] <smartboyhw> ypwong, ubuntu-defaults-builder is for people who want to make their own version of distro (with PPAs probably), not for a flavour.
[06:44] <smartboyhw> ypwong, because we aren't ready. Our flavour lead (zequence) is making his way through
[06:44] <smartboyhw> I'm applying for Kubuntu Developer
[06:44] <smartboyhw> But even if I became Kubuntu Developer, I
[06:44] <ypwong> but ubuntu studio has been existing for long time
[06:44] <smartboyhw> would not be a MOTU
[06:44] <smartboyhw> ypwong, because all the original developers left:P
[06:45] <ypwong> oh
[06:45] <ypwong> can you guys work on PPU first?
[06:45] <smartboyhw> And we haven't been involved in package maintenance
[06:45] <smartboyhw> ypwong, we haven't been involved in package maintenance as I say
[06:46] <ypwong> then get involved
[06:47] <ypwong> who is maintaining the tasks
[06:47] <smartboyhw> ypwong, zequence + OvenWerks
[06:48] <smartboyhw> Upload done by micahg
[06:49] <ypwong> ttyl, meeting sson
[06:49] <ypwong> soon
[07:36] <JackYu> ypwong,  mail sent:).
[09:20] <ypwong> youker-assistant-daemon 没有必要独立成为一个单独项目吧？
[09:20] <ypwong> 应该是 youker-assistant 的一部分
[12:10] <maclin> ypwong：问了一下Kobe，这两个项目是用不同的语言实现的，所以就独立成两个项目了，friends项目也是这种模式
[12:11] <maclin> 不过我也觉得合成一个项目比较好，里面可以生成不同的安装包，就像fcitx输入法的模式，这样版本管理和进化会好一些