[11:15] <stub> lifeless: Right. I was copying from juju...
[11:29] <lifeless> stub: juju's client specifically, I imagine?
[11:38] <stub> lifeless: yeah, was wondering how to stuff in settings and it is the other tool I use that needs to talk to openstack stuff.
[11:40] <stub> 'cause I didn't want to create yet more config files in Launchpad or put secrets in the existing ones.
[11:47] <lifeless> stub: well we have secrets in the existing ones already
[11:48] <lifeless> stub: so I would just do that, and solve that existing problem another time.
[22:55] <wgrant> cjwatson: What happens in the case that a reset doesn't fix the builder?
[22:55] <wgrant> Ideally it'd fail eventually, but I'm not sure that's implemented atm.
[22:56] <wgrant> Trying to work out in which cases the new behaviour is worse than the current one.