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l0ll0lll1hi all. I'm trying to install libopenal1 on saucy-daily, and get "E: Package 'libopenal1' has no installation candidate". How can I fix this?10:03
ikonial0ll0lll1: the package doesn't exist.10:04
l0ll0lll1ikonia: hmm... but wine from ppa refers to it...10:12
ikonial0ll0lll1: that's winePPA's problem10:12
l0ll0lll1ikonia: but how can it not exist if this page says it does exist: http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/libopenal1 ?10:12
ikonial0ll0lll1: because you the error you are saying shows it doesn't exist10:13
l0ll0lll1great, so who should I believe? apt or packages.ubuntu.com?10:14
ikonial0ll0lll1: I assume you've run apt-get update to make sure your apt-cache is current10:14
ikonial0ll0lll1: what version is it looking for /10:14
l0ll0lll1updated several times10:14
ikonial0ll0lll1: I can see libopenal1 1.14 in the repo10:14
ikonial0ll0lll1: what's the actual version it wants10:15
l0ll0lll1Depends: libopenal1 (>= 1:1.13) but it is not installable10:15
ikonial0ll0lll1: yes, as it's 1.1410:15
ikoniathe wine repo is out of date with it's dependencies,10:15
ikonial0ll0lll1: are you sure you're pointing at the saucy release in the wine repo10:16
l0ll0lll1i did "add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa"10:16
l0ll0lll1hoping it'll select correct release automatically10:16
ikonial0ll0lll1: did you not check ?10:17
ikoniathere is a 13.10 repo on the wine PPA, so it should be fine, but it looks like it's out of date10:18
ikonial0ll0lll1: if you do "apt-get install libopenal1" what do you get ?10:19
l0ll0lll1ikonia: as i said initially, "E: Package 'libopenal1' has no installation candidate"10:19
ikonial0ll0lll1: that's with you just running sudo apt-get install libopenal1"10:19
BluesKajHey all10:20
l0ll0lll1ikonia: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=3F7Q5JKv10:20
l0ll0lll1may this be because i run from liveUSB?10:21
ikonia!info libopenal110:21
ubottulibopenal1 (source: openal-soft): Software implementation of the OpenAL API (shared library). In component universe, is extra. Version 1:1.14-4ubuntu1 (raring), package size 175 kB, installed size 389 kB10:21
ikonial0ll0lll1: it's there, I'm not sure why you are are doing this on a liveusb but that shouldn't matter10:22
ikonial0ll0lll1: although look at th etag on it, "raring"10:22
l0ll0lll1ikonia: i have to test a i915 bug which appears with a software run in wine10:22
ikonial0ll0lll1: apt-cache policy libopenal110:23
Ampelbeinl0ll0lll1: Check that you have universe enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list10:24
l0ll0lll1ikonia: i think i've found a fix: had to enable universe in software sources10:25
l0ll0lll1i wish apt gave some hints for this10:25
ikoniaAmpelbein just said that10:25
ikoniaabout 2 seconds after you /parted10:25
l0ll0lll1it was connection error10:25
ikoniaok, after your connection droppe10:26
l0ll0lll1now the only problem remains with libgphoto2-port0... with same error, but now all repos are enabled10:28
ikoniad!info libgphoto2-port010:28
ikonia!info libgphoto2-port010:28
ubottulibgphoto2-port0 (source: libgphoto2): gphoto2 digital camera port library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.14-2 (raring), package size 42 kB, installed size 224 kB10:28
ikoniawell, it's in main10:28
ikonial0ll0lll1: what version does it want ?10:28
ikoniaso 2.4.14.....10:29
Ampelbeinl0ll0lll1: The saucy version is named libgphoto2-port1010:30
ikonia!info libgphoto2-port1010:30
ubottuPackage libgphoto2-port10 does not exist in raring10:30
Ampelbeinikonia: In saucy.10:30
ikoniaahhh ubotu is still picking up raring10:30
ikoniahang on10:30
ikoniasorry about that10:30
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l0ll0lll1ok, good to know why the fail occurs. Now is there a way to convince apt to install package without all deps satisfied?10:32
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Ampelbeinl0ll0lll1: apt, no, dpkg, yes. But your software will likely not work when its linked against an older soname.10:33
BluesKajl0ll0lll1, if you -f install , it wants to remove a whole lot of 32 git  depends and thwir apps like lsb-core and ia32-libs, I went ahead and let remove all that , then dist upgraded ..haven't had a problem sincxe10:33
BluesKaj32 bit10:33
ikonial0ll0lll1: why would you install packages without the deps being resolved ?10:33
l0ll0lll1ikonia: i'd install the package with apt thinking deps are not resolved, but having them installed under another name, like with libgphoto2-port0 vs libgphoto2-port1010:35
Ampelbeinl0ll0lll1: Package names usually aren't changed for no reason. In the case of libraries, a newer soname will mean that packages linked against the old version will likely not work.10:36
l0ll0lll1ok, that shouldn't be a problem since wine doesn't really need libgphoto to startup and execute the app i need10:41
ikoniait should do a library check at startup10:46
ikoniaand complain about a missing library if it's not there10:46
l0ll0lll1ikonia: such libraries in wine are usually not linked in a way ldd would see, they are instead opened when needed with dlopen(), so this shouldn't be a problem10:47
ikoniathat part I don't know - I'm not a "wine guy" so I'll take your word on that10:48
ikonia!info libgphoto2-port1010:59
ubottulibgphoto2-port10 (source: libgphoto2): gphoto2 digital camera port library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.2-0ubuntu2 (saucy), package size 46 kB, installed size 236 kB10:59
AmpelbeinOh, and package.ubuntu.com seems to got fixed too. It now shows binary packages for saucy! yay.11:00
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hhti can't boot ubuntuu 13.1020:14
bazhanghht, its still not released20:15
bazhanghht, why not consider using a stable release if you are not into bug tracking and fixing20:15
hhti have tried 13.04 and same problem so  i wanted to try 13.1020:17
bazhangmore info please20:18
bazhangcan't boot is way too vague20:18
hhti told i used universal usb installer and unetbootin to make ubuntuu bootable from pendrive20:21
hhtand i can't boot it20:21
bazhanghht, you never said that here20:22
hhtsorry i said it on ubuntu room20:22
bazhangdid you md5 the iso20:22
bazhangit's likely either a corrupt iso, which the md5 can sum check can verify, or you  need to try to re"burn" it to usb20:23
Ampelbeinhht: Do you get any message or just black screen when trying to boot?20:24
hhtjust black screen20:24
Ampelbeinhht: And what processor do you use?20:24
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter20:24
hhtatom n27020:25
hhti try to boot also in xboot and without success wtf20:25
hhti didnt havce problem with ubuntu 12.0420:25
Ampelbeinhht: So, you don't even see a grub menu, yes? Then I'd follow bazhang's advice of checking the checksum and reimage the usb stick.20:27
hhtyes just black screen20:28
hhti have tried several times without success20:28
wilee-nileehht, This booting the usb?20:28
hhtits pendrive 16gb, i just formatted it in fat3220:28
hhtmaybe it is bad formatted?20:28
wilee-nileehht, maybe check the nomodeset option you can do it as well on the live usb, although unetbootin bypasses that gui.20:29
hhtok all works, the problem was bad formatted pendrive, something wrong with its structure, i deleted partition and made new and installed ubuntu 13.10 and all works good20:36
wilee-nileegroovy man20:38
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