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l0ll0lll1 | hi all. I'm trying to install libopenal1 on saucy-daily, and get "E: Package 'libopenal1' has no installation candidate". How can I fix this? | 10:03 |
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ikonia | l0ll0lll1: the package doesn't exist. | 10:04 |
l0ll0lll1 | ikonia: hmm... but wine from ppa refers to it... | 10:12 |
ikonia | l0ll0lll1: that's winePPA's problem | 10:12 |
l0ll0lll1 | ikonia: but how can it not exist if this page says it does exist: http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/libopenal1 ? | 10:12 |
ikonia | l0ll0lll1: because you the error you are saying shows it doesn't exist | 10:13 |
l0ll0lll1 | great, so who should I believe? apt or packages.ubuntu.com? | 10:14 |
ikonia | l0ll0lll1: I assume you've run apt-get update to make sure your apt-cache is current | 10:14 |
ikonia | l0ll0lll1: what version is it looking for / | 10:14 |
l0ll0lll1 | updated several times | 10:14 |
ikonia | l0ll0lll1: I can see libopenal1 1.14 in the repo | 10:14 |
ikonia | l0ll0lll1: what's the actual version it wants | 10:15 |
l0ll0lll1 | Depends: libopenal1 (>= 1:1.13) but it is not installable | 10:15 |
ikonia | l0ll0lll1: yes, as it's 1.14 | 10:15 |
ikonia | the wine repo is out of date with it's dependencies, | 10:15 |
ikonia | l0ll0lll1: are you sure you're pointing at the saucy release in the wine repo | 10:16 |
l0ll0lll1 | i did "add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa" | 10:16 |
l0ll0lll1 | hoping it'll select correct release automatically | 10:16 |
ikonia | l0ll0lll1: did you not check ? | 10:17 |
ikonia | there is a 13.10 repo on the wine PPA, so it should be fine, but it looks like it's out of date | 10:18 |
ikonia | l0ll0lll1: if you do "apt-get install libopenal1" what do you get ? | 10:19 |
l0ll0lll1 | ikonia: as i said initially, "E: Package 'libopenal1' has no installation candidate" | 10:19 |
ikonia | l0ll0lll1: that's with you just running sudo apt-get install libopenal1" | 10:19 |
BluesKaj | Hey all | 10:20 |
l0ll0lll1 | ikonia: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=3F7Q5JKv | 10:20 |
l0ll0lll1 | may this be because i run from liveUSB? | 10:21 |
ikonia | !info libopenal1 | 10:21 |
ubottu | libopenal1 (source: openal-soft): Software implementation of the OpenAL API (shared library). In component universe, is extra. Version 1:1.14-4ubuntu1 (raring), package size 175 kB, installed size 389 kB | 10:21 |
ikonia | l0ll0lll1: it's there, I'm not sure why you are are doing this on a liveusb but that shouldn't matter | 10:22 |
ikonia | l0ll0lll1: although look at th etag on it, "raring" | 10:22 |
l0ll0lll1 | ikonia: i have to test a i915 bug which appears with a software run in wine | 10:22 |
ikonia | l0ll0lll1: apt-cache policy libopenal1 | 10:23 |
Ampelbein | l0ll0lll1: Check that you have universe enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list | 10:24 |
l0ll0lll1 | ikonia: i think i've found a fix: had to enable universe in software sources | 10:25 |
l0ll0lll1 | i wish apt gave some hints for this | 10:25 |
ikonia | Ampelbein just said that | 10:25 |
ikonia | about 2 seconds after you /parted | 10:25 |
l0ll0lll1 | it was connection error | 10:25 |
ikonia | ok, after your connection droppe | 10:26 |
l0ll0lll1 | now the only problem remains with libgphoto2-port0... with same error, but now all repos are enabled | 10:28 |
ikonia | d!info libgphoto2-port0 | 10:28 |
ikonia | !info libgphoto2-port0 | 10:28 |
ubottu | libgphoto2-port0 (source: libgphoto2): gphoto2 digital camera port library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.14-2 (raring), package size 42 kB, installed size 224 kB | 10:28 |
ikonia | well, it's in main | 10:28 |
ikonia | l0ll0lll1: what version does it want ? | 10:28 |
l0ll0lll1 | (>= 2.4.10.1) | 10:29 |
ikonia | so 2.4.14..... | 10:29 |
Ampelbein | l0ll0lll1: The saucy version is named libgphoto2-port10 | 10:30 |
ikonia | !info libgphoto2-port10 | 10:30 |
ubottu | Package libgphoto2-port10 does not exist in raring | 10:30 |
Ampelbein | ikonia: In saucy. | 10:30 |
ikonia | ahhh ubotu is still picking up raring | 10:30 |
ikonia | hang on | 10:30 |
ikonia | sorry about that | 10:30 |
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l0ll0lll1 | ok, good to know why the fail occurs. Now is there a way to convince apt to install package without all deps satisfied? | 10:32 |
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Ampelbein | l0ll0lll1: apt, no, dpkg, yes. But your software will likely not work when its linked against an older soname. | 10:33 |
BluesKaj | l0ll0lll1, if you -f install , it wants to remove a whole lot of 32 git depends and thwir apps like lsb-core and ia32-libs, I went ahead and let remove all that , then dist upgraded ..haven't had a problem sincxe | 10:33 |
BluesKaj | 32 bit | 10:33 |
ikonia | l0ll0lll1: why would you install packages without the deps being resolved ? | 10:33 |
l0ll0lll1 | ikonia: i'd install the package with apt thinking deps are not resolved, but having them installed under another name, like with libgphoto2-port0 vs libgphoto2-port10 | 10:35 |
Ampelbein | l0ll0lll1: Package names usually aren't changed for no reason. In the case of libraries, a newer soname will mean that packages linked against the old version will likely not work. | 10:36 |
l0ll0lll1 | ok, that shouldn't be a problem since wine doesn't really need libgphoto to startup and execute the app i need | 10:41 |
ikonia | it should do a library check at startup | 10:46 |
ikonia | and complain about a missing library if it's not there | 10:46 |
l0ll0lll1 | ikonia: such libraries in wine are usually not linked in a way ldd would see, they are instead opened when needed with dlopen(), so this shouldn't be a problem | 10:47 |
ikonia | that part I don't know - I'm not a "wine guy" so I'll take your word on that | 10:48 |
ikonia | !info libgphoto2-port10 | 10:59 |
ubottu | libgphoto2-port10 (source: libgphoto2): gphoto2 digital camera port library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.2-0ubuntu2 (saucy), package size 46 kB, installed size 236 kB | 10:59 |
Ampelbein | Oh, and package.ubuntu.com seems to got fixed too. It now shows binary packages for saucy! yay. | 11:00 |
Ampelbein | *packages | 11:00 |
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hht | hello | 20:14 |
hht | i can't boot ubuntuu 13.10 | 20:14 |
bazhang | hht, its still not released | 20:15 |
bazhang | hht, why not consider using a stable release if you are not into bug tracking and fixing | 20:15 |
hht | i have tried 13.04 and same problem so i wanted to try 13.10 | 20:17 |
bazhang | more info please | 20:18 |
bazhang | can't boot is way too vague | 20:18 |
hht | i told i used universal usb installer and unetbootin to make ubuntuu bootable from pendrive | 20:21 |
hht | and i can't boot it | 20:21 |
bazhang | hht, you never said that here | 20:22 |
hht | sorry i said it on ubuntu room | 20:22 |
bazhang | did you md5 the iso | 20:22 |
bazhang | it's likely either a corrupt iso, which the md5 can sum check can verify, or you need to try to re"burn" it to usb | 20:23 |
Ampelbein | hht: Do you get any message or just black screen when trying to boot? | 20:24 |
hht | just black screen | 20:24 |
Ampelbein | hht: And what processor do you use? | 20:24 |
bazhang | !nomodeset | 20:24 |
ubottu | A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter | 20:24 |
hht | atom n270 | 20:25 |
hht | i try to boot also in xboot and without success wtf | 20:25 |
hht | i didnt havce problem with ubuntu 12.04 | 20:25 |
Ampelbein | hht: So, you don't even see a grub menu, yes? Then I'd follow bazhang's advice of checking the checksum and reimage the usb stick. | 20:27 |
hht | yes just black screen | 20:28 |
hht | i have tried several times without success | 20:28 |
wilee-nilee | hht, This booting the usb? | 20:28 |
hht | its pendrive 16gb, i just formatted it in fat32 | 20:28 |
hht | maybe it is bad formatted? | 20:28 |
wilee-nilee | hht, maybe check the nomodeset option you can do it as well on the live usb, although unetbootin bypasses that gui. | 20:29 |
hht | ok all works, the problem was bad formatted pendrive, something wrong with its structure, i deleted partition and made new and installed ubuntu 13.10 and all works good | 20:36 |
wilee-nilee | groovy man | 20:38 |
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