[01:42] <mwhudson> hm
[01:43] <mwhudson> it seems that building eglibc does not respect DEB_CFLAGS_APPEND
[01:43] <mwhudson> am i on crack?
[01:44] <infinity> It very much doesn't use dpkg-buildflags, no.  It can't.
[01:44] <infinity> What were you hoping to do?
[01:44] <mwhudson> infinity: i guessed it might be special
[01:45] <mwhudson> infinity: build with -fno-omit-frame-pointer
[01:45] <infinity> On which arch?
[01:45] <mwhudson> infinity: armhf
[01:46] <infinity> mwhudson: debian/sysdeps/armhf.mk
[01:46] <infinity> mwhudson: libc_CC = $(CC) -fno-omit-frame-pointer
[01:46] <infinity> mwhudson: Something like that should do.
[01:47] <mwhudson> infinity: add that line?
[01:48] <infinity> mwhudson: Yeah.
[01:48] <infinity> mwhudson: I thought that was the default on all but ix86 anyway?
[01:48] <mwhudson> trying
[01:48] <mwhudson> nope
[01:49] <infinity> Then the manpage lies. :P
[01:49] <mwhudson> heh
[01:49] <infinity> Or, misleads.
[01:49] <infinity> Though, I'm curious what you're trying to solve.
[01:49] <mwhudson> infinity: i want perf record -g to do something useful
[01:50] <mwhudson> if frame pointers were mandatory on arm then stack unwinding would be a LOT less full of crack :)
[01:50] <infinity> Ahh.
[01:50] <mwhudson> (they are mandatory on arm64 i hear)
[01:51] <mwhudson> infinity: seems to be working, thanks:
[01:51] <mwhudson> $ grep no-omit-frame-pointer -c eglibc_2.17-0ubuntu5_armhf.build
[01:51] <mwhudson> 143
[01:52] <mwhudson> now, i have a benchmark running that's going to take a few hours, this build is going to take a few hours
[01:52] <mwhudson> and it's 2pm
[01:52] <mwhudson> too early to start drinking?
[01:52] <infinity> I dunno, but it's 3am here, might be bedtime.
[01:53] <mwhudson> it's possible
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[03:34] <Taggg> hello, is branch merging officially discussed anywhere other than launchpad? e.g. mailing lists?
[03:40] <ScottK> Taggg: You may want https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-distributed-devel
[03:41] <Taggg> ScottK: that list looks pretty low volume
[03:41] <ScottK> It is.
[03:41] <Taggg> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-distributed-devel/2013-July/thread.html
[03:41] <ScottK> UDD is essentially unmaintained.
[03:42] <Taggg> ScottK: is that another way of saying that if i fix a bug and propose a merge, it will likely not be merged?
[03:45] <ScottK> No, as long as the branch isn't out of date, it'll probably be sponsored.  What it means is that it's unlikely that if a branch isn't imported because of a bug, it'll get fixed anytime soon.
[03:47] <Taggg> ScottK: cool, any way for me to gauge how long a fix would take to be merged?
[03:47] <ScottK> Not really.
[03:47] <ScottK> Alternately, you can make a debdiff of the fix, attach it to the relevant bug in LP and subscribe ubuntu-sponsors to the bug.
[03:48] <Taggg> ScottK: what's the advantage of a debdiff over a fixed branch?
[03:49] <Taggg> ScottK: the fix is a fast-forward from the dev branch
[04:05] <ScottK> Not everyone deals with merge proposals.
[04:06] <ScottK> There may be people who don't deal with debdiffs when sponsoring, but I don't know of it.
[04:43] <Taggg> ScottK: alright thanks
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[07:10] <dholbach> good morning
[07:55] <dpm> good morning seb128, didrocks. Could one of you help me with this? -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-archive/2013-July/046578.html
[07:57] <didrocks> dpm: opening a tab, will get to it before EOD if seb128 doesn't beat me :)
[07:57] <dpm> thanks didrocks!
[07:57] <didrocks> yw ;)
[07:58] <seb128> didrocks, thanks, I probably won't, I still have some desktopish review to do in the queue ... I was hopping infinity or others would pick up a bit of NEW review but that doesn't seem to happen
[07:59] <didrocks> seb128: yeah, we are NEWing a lot between you and me this cycle :)
[08:10] <cjwatson> darkxst: LP-PPA-* sounds ambiguous; either the owner or the PPA name might contain "-".  I'd suggest finding some different source of input ...
[08:23] <darkxst> cjwatson, I know, but there is no other source (this is from the Dependencies.txt on crash reports)
[08:24] <darkxst> right now I am just trying all the options until I find a valid combo
[08:27] <ev> @pilot in
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[08:55] <ev> apw: did we ever come up with a signature for suspend/resume failures? Would what apport is using for the title field here (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1117792) be sufficient, or do you think there's a better set of concatenated fields we can key against?
[08:55] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1117792 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Hewlett-Packard HP EliteBook 8460p] suspend/resume failure" [Medium,Incomplete]
[08:56] <ev> apw: we should be seeing other types of kernel OOPSes (ones with OopsText set) with RT 63730, but looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=apport-kerneloops&orderby=-id there don't appear to be many of those.
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[09:42] <ev> jodh: does this look vaguely sensible: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5954467/ ? I presume I cannot use the setuid stanza because I need to first obtain the uid from stat'ing the crash file.
[09:43] <ev> jodh: trying to mimic what apport does in /usr/share/upstart/sessions/update-notifier-crash.conf, only running apport with elevated privileges if we're dealing with a report from a "system" user (uid < 500)
[09:43] <pete-woods> didrocks: hi! I've forgotten who I'm supposed to talk to to get launchpad projects into CI - something tells me it's you, but then maybe my brain is broken?
[09:43] <ev> though perhaps we could just always run it as the user, never running as root
[09:44] <didrocks> pete-woods: for upstream merge, it's fginther
[09:44] <didrocks> pete-woods: for getting to distro, it's me :)
[09:44] <pete-woods> didrocks: I'd like to get into distro :)
[09:44] <didrocks> pete-woods: is upstream merger already configured?
[09:45] <pete-woods> didrocks: I could only say no, as I don't really know what that is
[09:45] <pete-woods> guessing it pushes stuff into debian somehow
[09:45] <pete-woods> basically I've set up 3 new launchpad projects, and checked they build with a recipe in my own private PPA
[09:45] <didrocks> pete-woods: no, it's what is taking a MP and merging to trunk
[09:46] <pete-woods> ahh
[09:46] <pete-woods> didrocks: then no, I've literally just created projects and branches myself
[09:46] <didrocks> pete-woods: ok, can you get that done first? then, we can talk about distro ;)
[09:47] <pete-woods> didrocks: is that something I can set up myself? or do I ping someone else?
[09:47] <didrocks> pete-woods: you need to ping fginther
[09:47] <pete-woods> okay, cool, will do that then - thanks! :)
[09:47] <didrocks> pete-woods: do you have the project links so that I can already prepare what's needed?
[09:48] <pete-woods> didrocks: https://launchpad.net/libqtdbustest https://launchpad.net/libqtdbusmock https://launchpad.net/indicator-network-prompt
[09:49] <pete-woods> didrocks: they depend on each other in that order, too
[09:49] <didrocks> pete-woods: thanks!
[09:50] <jodh> ev: looks ok. I'd be tempted to quote all occurences of $MATCH though. If the stat fails, the job will exit too, but I guess that's probably desirable behaviour anyway.
[09:51] <ev> jodh: ah, good catch. Will do
[10:54] <doko> didrocks, seb128, sil2100: ping
[10:54] <didrocks> (context would be great)
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[12:36] <pete-woods> fginther: good morning! - when you get chance, would you be able to set some more projects up to do CI for me?
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[12:56] <fginther> pete-woods, morning! No problem. Can you ping me again in 30 minutes if I don't get back to you first?
[12:56] <pete-woods> fginther: of course! :)
[13:29] <tseliot> stgraber: are you around?
[13:36] <stgraber> tseliot: yep
[13:49] <fginther> pete-woods, I have some time now
[13:50] <pete-woods> fginther: cool, basically it's 3 new launchpad projects
[13:50] <pete-woods> fginther: https://launchpad.net/libqtdbustest https://launchpad.net/libqtdbusmock https://launchpad.net/indicator-network-prompt
[13:51] <pete-woods> fginther: I've set up recipies that build to my own PPA to verify the first two should build already
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[13:52] <fginther> pete-woods, are all three indictor related?
[13:52] <pete-woods> fginther: only the last one, the first two are general purpose for anyone using at and dbus who wants to write tests
[13:52] <pete-woods> *at -> qt
[13:56] <fginther> pete-woods, thanks. I'll ping you when I have them setup
[13:56] <pete-woods> fginther: awesome, thanks :)
[13:57] <fginther> pete-woods, has indicator-network-prompt been reviewed by the integration team for daily-release?
[13:57] <pete-woods> fginther: no reviews have been done yet, I just wanted to have my tests running on Jenkins for that really
[13:58] <fginther> pete-woods, not a problem,
[13:58] <pete-woods> fginther: at the moment it won't even produce a deb file most likely :p
[13:58] <fginther> pete-woods, ack
[14:03] <seb128> diwic, hey
[14:09] <tedg> cjwatson, Is there any issue with the main inclusion of click, or is it just a TODO and paperwork?
[14:09] <cjwatson> Just paperwork I think
[14:14] <cjwatson> tedg: I don't think there'll be any particular issue; jdstrand et al might want to take the opportunity to do an updated code review, I suppose
[14:14] <tedg> cjwatson, Okay, cool.  I was just being asked by the Unity team about it, making sure there wasn't any blockers.
[14:15] <tedg> I need to update to click 0.3 as well.
[14:15] <cjwatson> Are you OK with that extension I added?  I realise it's not quite everything you asked for, but I think it should do the job ...
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[14:16] <tedg> Yes, I think that it's fine.  I'm still a bit worried about having a section called "hooks" in the manifest, but it's a semantic argument at this point not a technical one.
[14:16] <cjwatson> Yeah, I thought you might mention that.  I might rename that at some point, but backward-compatibly
[14:19] <jdstrand> cjwatson: does click-apparmor need to be adjusted to use Hook-Name?
[14:20] <jdstrand> cjwatson: or changed in some other way for 0.3.0
[14:20] <cjwatson> jdstrand: Not if you're already calling it apparmor.hook; and AFAIK there's only really one consumer of apparmor so I don't see the point
[14:20] <jdstrand> /usr/share/click/hooks/apparmor.hook
[14:20] <jdstrand> ok
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[14:52] <diwic> seb128, oh sh* missed the meeting :-(
[14:53] <diwic> seb128, terribly sorry
[14:53] <diwic> seb128, it fell out of my head completely :-(
[14:53] <seb128> diwic, no worry, we settled for doing things the simple way in a first iteration
[14:53] <seb128> diwic, lool took notes and updated https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/touch-silent-mode
[14:54] <seb128> diwic, we are going to just teach the phone/messaging/notification services to respect a gsettings key at first
[14:54] <seb128> diwic, then we can work on a better solution later as resources permit
[14:54] <seb128> diwic, we can have another meeting about the better solution later if needed
[14:55] <diwic> seb128, okay, that sounds reasonable
[15:01] <lool> diwic: Ah, and I looked for you on another irc channel, I should have checked here too
[15:01] <seb128> lool, I pinged him here at the start of the meeting, he just replied
[15:01] <seb128> lool, e.g wouldn't have make a difference
[15:01] <seb128> lool, so don't blame yourself about it ;-)
[15:03] <diwic> all blame on me
[15:05] <lool> can do!
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[15:50] <tseliot> slangasek: sorry to bother you again, are you back for the sprint and up for reviewing an SRU?
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[16:03] <slangasek> tseliot: I am back - which SRU, the fglrx one still?
[16:04] <tseliot> slangasek: bug 1198942
[16:04] <ubottu> bug 1198942 in nvidia-prime (Ubuntu) "Hybrid Graphics and general enablement for fglrx and nvidia in Precise for 12.04.3" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1198942
[16:04] <slangasek> tseliot: right
[16:04] <tseliot> slangasek: thanks
[16:23] <jamespage> doko, any plans around re-merging distribute/setuptools?
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[16:31] <ev> @pilot out
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[16:40] <doko> jamespage, go ahead if you want =)
[16:41] <doko> maybe the delta can be dropped now. didn't check
[16:41] <jamespage> doko, I guess thats a 'no plans' then
[16:41] <jamespage> doko, distribute re-merged into setuptools AFAICT
[16:42] <doko> jamespage, yes, that too. didn't find time for that. just updated debian to the last distribute version
[16:42] <jamespage> doko, I'll take a look and see then
[16:43] <doko> thanks
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[17:35] <mitya57> jamespage: you may want to coordinate that with barry — he posted some thoughts about that @ https://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2013/05/msg00104.html
[17:35] <jamespage> mitya57, thanks for the pointer -will do
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[18:10] <doko> mitya57, jamespage: well, I would like to see the current one first in testing / saucy, then update
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[22:16] <slangasek> YokoZar: can you rebuild your ppa wine packages for the gphoto transition?
[22:16] <slangasek> YokoZar: also, why is saucy still at wine1.4?
[23:02] <Ghoul_> Hi. I built a custom 3.8.0 kernel because I need to use my own DSDT. I followed instructions for copying the config over from the stock kernel and then built the kernel using `make deb-pkg` and installed it. When I boot I get dropped into grub shell and theres no drive devices under /dev/. The command line params being passed to the custom kernel are the
[23:02] <Ghoul_> same as the stock kernel. Stock kernel continues to boot fine.
[23:02] <Ghoul_> Any ideas?
[23:03] <sarnold> Ghoul_: did you make / update the initramfs / initrd?
[23:03] <Ghoul_> I tried to, but I may not have done it correctly
[23:04] <Ghoul_> I certainly did the initramfs but I don't remember doing initrd
[23:05] <sarnold> two different names and technologies for what's essentially the same thing. if you did one, you're probably fine..
[23:06] <Ghoul_> ok
[23:07] <Ghoul_> I just ran it again, I'll quickly reboot and see if that fixes anything