=== phunyguy_ is now known as phunyguy [00:41] Ubuntu phone accessibility | http://askubuntu.com/q/329130 [00:56] hello all [00:59] i cant seem to figure this out.. i am trying to flash nexus 7 wifi, follow the instructions, when the evice reboot its always to "cwm-base recovery", and never unity shell. wwhat am i doing wrong ? it says autodeploy.zip not found, so i manually point it to the file on the nexus, but no success ? [01:00] Are you doing phablet-flash? [01:00] yes phablet-flash [01:00] yes . [01:00] I did my wifi nexus 7 for the first time yesterday, and I founf that you just have to wait and wait and wait [01:01] it looks like its hung, but its actually copying stuff [01:01] you mean at the cwm recovey screen? [01:02] yeah, but the shell on your desktop where you issued that phablet=flash command will say that its copying one of the big image files (forget which one) [01:03] got it ... you were right. thanks for your help . [01:03] no problem === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === lilstevie_ is now known as lilstevie [03:30] mhall119: as sergiusens correctly said, the packaging is not a problem, but building the source package needs the information what is traditionally located in the debian/control and debian/rules files [03:33] Preparing to replace ofono 1.12phablet11 (using .../ofono_1.12phablet12_armhf.deb) ... [03:33] :( [03:34] I hope this fixes the damn 100% CPU issue on wifi only devices [03:36] nope it does not....... syslog full of this !@#$ http://puu.sh/3US1K.png [03:42] <_lunarcold> trying to follow the porting guide, where is "breakfast"? [03:42] hahahahaha I ran into the same problem [03:42] but I ummmm didnt write down how I solved it [03:42] <_lunarcold> do I need to build the huge repo that I downloaded? [03:42] yes [03:42] I think you do [03:43] <_lunarcold> hm... that doesn't build because of missing kernel sources or something [03:44] <_lunarcold> http://paste.kde.org/pdd565e06/ [03:47] <_lunarcold> I'd prefer not ot have to do the "depreciated" steps [03:49] <_lunarcold> think I found it. running "source build/envsetup.sh" makes breakfast work apparently [03:49] <_lunarcold> that should really be added to the porting doc [03:52] Hello === darek is now known as Guest4918 [04:03] <_lunarcold> added information to the porting guide. there are some packages that you may need (ubuntu developer something, but the messages will walk through so I don't think I need to add) [04:03] <_lunarcold> also, "bash" must be used, and you are warned if you use an alternative shell. I use zsh, but had to switch shells, is it worth adding that to the guide too? === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo [05:16] * dejello blinks [07:14] good morning === alan_g|EOD is now known as alan_g [08:10] Hi everyone I just made some updates to the minesweeper application... Can someone update the package in the collection ppa please? === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk === mpt_ is now known as mpt [08:30] tvoss_: is mir on grouper supposed to be working at this point? I've tried http://s-jenkins:8080/job/ubuntu-touch-phablet-image-saucy-mir/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/saucy-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip but unity crashes before clearing the bootloader image. [08:30] trying to make some headway on building a test environment for hanging applications [08:30] ev, help me, grouper is which nexus? [08:30] 7 [08:31] ev, ah, 7 is interesting in that the nvidia driver is a beast [08:31] ev, best to check with kdub once he comes online [08:31] tvoss_: would this work better with a 4? [08:31] will do [08:31] ev, @4: for sure [08:32] excellent. That's the second use case I have for one now. I think that's new toy bingo. [08:32] ev, yup :) === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea [08:52] hello all. Is there a limit to how many characters a mail to the mailinglist list can contain? I sent a rather large mail and it does not appear in the archive and no-one responded === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [09:04] hello all, is the mailist list and launchpad broken at this time? [09:05] launchpad works for me [09:05] i can't see any bugs? [09:05] and the last mail came in 3min ago on the list [09:05] hi guys! [09:06] is there a limit on the amout of characters you can have in a mail to the list? [09:06] a few MB i would guess [09:06] I have sent3 mails so far to the list and not coming through, definitely not even 1MB [09:07] well, did you join the team on LP ? [09:07] tvoss_: why do we need to remove the hybris dep on non-ARM platforms? for testing? [09:07] i' not sure non members can send mail [09:07] YUP [09:07] (though you should have gotten an answer mail telling you that, check your spam folder) [09:08] nope [09:08] mfisch, nope, pulling it in as a runtime dependency on amd64/i386 results in an egl/gl library being installed and set as default that is not working, shadowing the mesa egl/gl [09:08] mfisch, it's less of an issue if powerd is limited to armhf/arm64 [09:09] tvoss_, how about intel/android based phones/tablets [09:09] tvoss_: isn't there some better basis for this than CPU architecture? [09:09] we will support them some day [09:09] thats not gonna scale ... [09:10] ogra_, I am part of the team but when I go to bugs ubnder ubuntu phone team I see any and can;t search anything [09:10] sforshee, well, the idea simply is: if we are not on arm, we shouldn't install hybris [09:10] psypher246, we dont manage bugs under that team ... [09:10] tvoss_: but like ogra_ said, what about intel-based android targets? [09:10] see the channel topic :) [09:11] tvoss_, that will make the emulator impossible [09:11] sforshee, let's solve that once we encounter it. We don't have such a target right now [09:11] we do [09:11] ogra_, why is that? why would the emulator use hybris on i386/amd64? [09:11] and we have many requests from padfone users and razor users [09:12] tvoss_, because it is an android emulator and you want to emulate phone input etc [09:12] ogra_, still, we shouldn't install hybris on non-arm systems [09:12] we should [09:13] we shouldnt install it on non android systems [09:13] ogra_, thx got it. do you know of an already open bug about the CPU leak, overheating issues on a nexus 4? [09:13] tvoss_: if it's using androids hal we're going to need hybris, no? [09:13] ogra_, true, but our packaging system does not allow for that right now [09:13] sforshee, true, see my comment to ogra's remark [09:13] psypher246, there are a few ... unity8 running at 60% CPU usage constantly, some races with the android container etc [09:14] tvoss_, ?? [09:14] our packaging system clearly allows that [09:14] it is designed for this :) [09:14] tvoss_: well how functional does powerd need to be on non-arm platforms? If I just stub out the stuff using hybris then we'll lose sensor and input support. [09:14] make hybris depends on lxc-android-config ... which is only installed on android based systems [09:15] ogra_, hmmm, how can I then express that I only want to install a build dependency on something having an android core [09:15] our image/install system doesnt allow it atm ... the package system clearly does [09:15] ogra_, then I phrased it wrongly, but the problem is still there [09:16] tvoss_, we will need to build separate images with the current image design .... (unless we decide to have an actual installer that could judge what needs to be installed and what not) [09:17] the problem is different than you anticipate :) ... and it isnt arch bound [09:17] ogra_, I know it is not arch dependent, but it is the only marker we can leverage right now [09:17] mzanetti: ping [09:17] it is image bound ... once we build x86 images it is the job of the image creator to make sure we have the right bits in the right images [09:18] since we currently dont build x86 images at all its a moot point [09:18] and the first x86 ubuntu touch image we will build wont be for PCs [09:18] ogra_, but we have issues right now, installing anything from the rdepends here http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5954397/ breaks gl acceleration [09:18] (but for the android emu) [09:18] ogra_, as it pulls in hybris, which in turn installs alternative gl/egl libs as defaults [09:19] well, dont install hybris then ... but on proper basis ... not just blantly based on arches [09:20] ogra_, do you know if there is a bug for the broken keyboard in the terminal? [09:20] (amke it depend on lxc-android-config, make sure lxc-android-config isnt a hard dep on x86) [09:21] psypher246, whats broken there ? works for me on all devices ... [09:21] you can check the maliit bugs on launchpad though [09:22] ogra_, KB is about 10 pixels too low so i only see half of the last line, thats if the kb works at all when changing to apps and back again [09:22] ogra_, are our images switched to the lxc-android-config, yet? [09:23] psypher246, well, i'd say the terminal "underlaps" (is that a word) the kbd [09:23] ogra_, no idea what that means :) [09:23] psypher246, since the kbd works fine with all other apps , the widget drawing the terminal has a bug [09:23] ogra_, but hold on: how would I make lxc-android-config an optional build or runtime dep in debian/control? [09:24] tvoss_, all arm images use it atm ... ubuntu-touch doesnt depend on it on x86 currently [09:24] ogra_, no sorry i just checked it's all apps [09:24] (if it does, *that* would be tthe bug) [09:24] psypher246, file it then ... [09:25] i dont see it on all apps [09:25] psypher246, which device is that ? probably the UI grid value is wrong [09:25] N4 [09:25] (thats the value that makes sure there are no overlapping UI elements) [09:25] hmm, no that should be fine [09:31] hey all, has anyone expressed any interest in creating a touch IRC app? [09:32] ogra_, should I be flashing the latest image everyday nor is an apt-get update/upgrade good enough? [09:33] SuperMatt, i would express high interest in using one :) [09:34] awesome :D [09:34] I've been playing around with writing an irc bot, so I would certainly be interested in making a client too [09:34] psypher246, apt-get update/dist-upgrade is fine as long as you dont see platform-api or libhybris in the updates ... if either of them is there you should update the android side too (i,.e. flash) [09:36] ok thx [09:36] psypher246, note that we'll be switching to image based upgrades within the next two/three weeks though (apt will be disabled, rootfs will be readonly by default and updates will happen through image diffs) [09:37] ah ok, so then just hook it up to my pc and do phablet flash [10:08] sergiusens, did you find anything for MaxWallstedt's adb problem with the new phablet-flash? [10:13] dholbach: yes, we fixed it [10:13] dholbach: there's a new entry in the manifest.json for the i9xx [10:13] is that something all ports will require? [10:14] dholbach: no, it's optional [10:14] ah cool [10:14] dholbach: after some thought, he seemed to not have an external sdcard, so /sdcard is not mountable. We added an option to set where to land the files [10:15] and now it works just fine? [10:15] dholbach: yes [10:15] you make me a happy man! [10:16] dholbach: here's the install log if you care about it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5952762/ :-) [10:16] sergiusens, I was wondering: should we have a way to approve ports once they're working fine? like right now everybody could break their device by just trying to flash one of these: https://code.launchpad.net/phablet-image-info [10:17] on the other hand are we going to rely on the ACK of the port/image maintainer or testers of the device as a piece of feedback anyway [10:18] it might be nice to have some indication of "somebody tested this and it worked" :) [10:18] dholbach, you should [10:19] dholbach: add a 'stable' or 'tested' entry in manifest.json [10:20] sergiusens, what would "tested: yes/no" do? would we want to have a --override option in phablet-flash or something? [10:21] dholbach: --unstable ? [10:21] sure, that'd work for me [10:21] would we want to print out something like "port/image exists, but has not been tested yet, use --unstable to override."? [10:36] sergiusens, so it wouldn't be the phablet-port-admins who bless ports/images? [10:37] dholbach: ah, I was hoping you would take care of the process part :-) [10:37] dholbach: another option is to have a specific branch with just a list of devices that are 'stable' or 'approved' [10:38] sergiusens, well, it's simple - if it's just a matter of adding "tested: yes" into the manifest somewhere and everybody on the team can do it, then we don't need to do anything [10:38] sergiusens, as we rely on the feedback of others anyway, I'm not sure how much sense this makes [10:39] dholbach: the only question is if you want a 3rd party to say it's good or just the same person [10:41] I could imagine I'd be fine with the image maintainers to say "WFM" === VDVsx_ is now known as VDVsx === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:03] ogra_: phablet-flash --legacy -b is giving me a traceback. I guess I should be the one fixing it if I need it?! [11:03] i thought we dropped that [11:04] sincew we dont have the images anymore .... at least no daily ones [11:05] ogra_: well, i'm fine with the last available image. will try manually flashing it, it's just my tablet was bootstrapped for image-updates.... === gusch is now known as gusch|lunch [11:06] xnox, well, i'm not sure legacy is supposed to work [11:08] xnox: don't fix it [11:08] xnox: can you paste the trace? [11:10] sergiusens: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5954689/ [11:11] xnox: I'll hurry in my refactor branch which works. I have a suspicion for this one though... === nik90|Office is now known as nik90|Lunch [11:20] xnox: so the unmerged mega branch works ok... I'll see if I can get it in today... [11:21] sergiusens: which one is that? i'll use it locally here =) [11:21] xnox: https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/phablet-tools/flash_change/+merge/177927 [11:21] xnox: ./phablet-flash cdimage-legacy -b [11:22] we really shoould drop legacy imho [11:23] ogra_: rsalveti wants me to keep it for demo's ... but I've isolated it completely [11:23] ogra_: well i'm using legacy at the moment to try bootstrapping emulator for one last time =) [11:23] sergiusens, phablet-flash is like windows ... backwards compatible to day one [11:23] ogra_: it's my enduring pain! [11:23] yeah [11:24] i dont see the benefit of letting people use buggy old and unmaintained stuff [11:25] ogra_: I tried it the other day, rock solid! [11:25] full of hacks [11:25] but stable :-) [11:25] heh [11:25] but not reflecting reality :) [11:25] xnox: hold that branch a bit, landing a fix [11:26] * ogra_ hopes on release day we will drop all this completely [11:27] ogra_: he =) [11:27] ogra_, hmm, what to do with phablet-flash is an interesting topic [11:27] ogra_, maybe a UDS session? [11:27] the pain of supporting a gazillion options would make things easier to maintain [11:27] rickspencer3, well, if we have a release we consider stable we should definitely not support old half finished cruft with it [11:28] phablet-flash after release should have --current and --devel [11:28] nothing more [11:28] ogra_: and community ... [11:28] in some form [11:28] (and --current being the default makes an option obsolete) [11:28] ogra_, well, I was thinking phablet flash would only be necessary for initial phone set up [11:29] --community would base on --current [11:29] then image based updates going forward [11:29] yeah [11:29] well [11:29] depends how we support community ports [11:29] xnox: you want revno 168 from that branch [11:29] ogra_: I gave some thought for image based upgrades and for zips [11:30] sergiusens, i think the only issue with them is the signing [11:30] ogra_, good point, anyway, just saying, seems like a good UDS topic, invite the port authors, etc... [11:30] we should have an "unsafe" key for community builds [11:30] yeah [11:30] ogra_: if they flash an unprotected recovery, they're good [11:31] sergiusens, right, so we need to make sure they get one :) [11:31] ogra_: well, they are building it, we just need instructions so people can add their own keys or skip it completely [11:32] i would go for skip [11:32] and we need instructions on how to setup such server [11:32] and just have that as the default in the code [11:32] with an override for us === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g === gusch|lunch is now known as gusch === jpetersen_ is now known as jpetersen [11:51] Hi, I have got a question; Is it already possible to run Ubuntu Touch on the Nexus 7 2nd Gen? === nik90|Lunch is now known as nik90|Office === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [12:05] alex-abreu: any progress with http://pad.lv/1208355 , it's still failing&blocking? [12:05] Launchpad bug 1208355 in unity-webapps-qml "HUD autopilot tests failing" [Undecided,New] === tvoss_ is now known as tvoss|lunch === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === hikiko is now known as hikiko|lunch [12:30] hi [12:30] can any body help me out here?? [12:32] i am trying to restore my nexus to android [12:32] but i get an error instead [12:32] jasbir@jasbir-Singhs-dabba:~/occam-jdq39$ adb reboot-bootloader error: insufficient permissions for device jasbir@jasbir-Singhs-dabba:~/occam-jdq39$ sudo adb reboot-bootloader error: insufficient permissions for device jasbir@jasbir-Singhs-dabba:~/occam-jdq39$ === ritz_ is now known as ritz|zzz [12:38] Mirv, yes afaik, no progress, rvr is supposed to help w/ that along w/ fginther === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [12:46] ogra_: i think i need to be reconstructing unflipped on emulator by hand. The stuff that makes unflipped image from android is: /data/ubuntu/ chroot + android init tweaks to kick off the container. Anything else? additional init tweaks to prevent android shell from starting? [12:46] xnox, i think you need to manually replicate what the zip installation does [12:47] during flashing [12:48] ogra_: i can't install zips, but sure, i'll follow the steps that the zip does. i guess i should diff the normal android zip vs our zip, for the unflipped system.zip (android/armel). [12:48] (in the updater scripts & our script) [12:49] the unzipping is identical [12:49] they only differ by initrd [12:49] (and by dropped hacks in the rootfs) [12:50] * xnox ponders if emulator runs initrd, it looks like it does direct kernel boot. [12:51] it does have initrd. [12:53] fginther: ping === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:56] oSoMoN, pong [12:57] fginther: hey, I’ve got some autopilot tests failing on the community apps jenkins instance with a "OSError: [Errno 12] Cannot allocate memory" error: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/ubuntu-calendar-app/refactor-autopilot-tests/+merge/178524 === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [12:58] alex-abreu: thanks, let's hope the fix is found [12:58] oSoMoN, that's interesting. I haven't seen that one before. I'll dig into and see if I can find anything [12:58] fginther: thanks! [12:59] fginther: it might have been a temporary issue now resolved, in which case could you please re-trigger a CI run on this MR? [12:59] oSoMoN, I'll give it a try [12:59] thanks === hikiko|lunch is now known as hikiko [13:10] Yeah my phone lights up and pings when I get a message woohoo! [13:10] janimo, it looks like flashing worked for MaxWallstedt and his i9100 port now - how are things working for you? :) [13:11] dholbach, works too after device hiccups with corrupted partitions [13:11] dholbach, mhall119: We need a competition to create ringtones and notification pings......go make it happen ;) [13:11] Switching from Ubuntu Desktop to Ubuntu Tablet | http://askubuntu.com/q/329304 [13:12] davmor2, you go and make it happen ;-) [13:12] janimo, so users of the device can now just use sergiusens' phablet-flash and flash their u9200 devices? === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:13] dholbach: Okay you cover the apps queue for a couple of weeks and I'll see what I can do :D We'll see who cries first :) [13:14] davmor2, you know what - let's do it the next time I'm twiddling thumbs ;-) [13:14] dholbach, they should indeed, but in order for it to work the latest not-yet automatically QAd ubuntu image is needed [13:14] since only those post Aug 1 have the udev rules [13:14] ok [13:14] but according to ogra yesterday the newer images have regressions still [13:14] dholbach: hey that not on you have time to twiddle your thumbs, I'm complaining to Jono ;) [13:14] great [13:16] dholbach, janimo, i expect it to at least take til end of the week until people have fixed their app tests [13:16] and before the dashboard finishes with 100% successfull tests i'm not alllowed to release an image [13:16] dholbach: on a more serious note, the messaging ping is really boring so having some sample sounds to flick between might be a fun way to contribute like the photos for the desktops, just an idea at any rate :) [13:18] davmor2, the u-phone list might be a good target [13:19] dholbach: indeed good plan [13:20] fginther: so the CI job re-ran, but the situation is not any better apparently [13:21] oSoMoN, I'm looking at some other issues on that setup now. They could be related === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk === alan_g_ is now known as alan_g [13:45] oSoMoN, https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/ubuntu-calendar-app/refactor-autopilot-tests/+merge/178524 SUCCESS now [13:46] fginther: awesome, thanks! [13:46] fginther: there are other pending MRs that probably need a re-run too [13:47] oSoMoN, ack. I will try to run through them [13:47] hello, recently started using ubuntu touch mako on a nexus 4, question : to update the os, do i only need to push a new phablet -b ? [13:47] fginther: thanks [13:48] hey asac the mako results seem wacky today, need any help? [13:48] maybe not the right forum for asking questions, where should i go to do so ? ubuntu forums ? [13:49] uphone, to update just do phablet-flash, the -b option will do a full wipe of data etc [13:49] if you want the very latest use --pending, which is not yet QA blessed [13:50] pmcgowan: talking to oSoMoN :) [13:50] asac, maguro looks great, mako not so much [13:50] somewhat suspicious [13:50] great ! thanks alot, I'll do it daily, wher can i report findings regarding issues and bugs, lauchpad ? [13:50] uphone, yes, all the projects are in launchpad === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk === tvoss|lunch is now known as tvoss|hungry === tvoss|hungry is now known as tvoss_ [13:52] thanks again, good job, i hope to contribute once i get the hang of what info is required. [13:52] pmcgowan: indeed. [13:53] uphone, good to have you aboard [13:53] i was rehoping that infra knows more about bug 1208494 [13:53] bug 1208494 in Ubuntu File Manager App " utah: YAML parsing error during filemanager-app tests" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1208494 [13:53] maybe that can cause weird behaviour [13:53] ah [13:53] looks like the phone failures need a new release of the app [13:53] doanac: plars: when awake, can you check maguro vs. mako? [13:54] pmcgowan: where did you spot that? === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g [13:55] doanac: gema: i think we should invest in visualising the package list and the diff of versions soonish. would help blaming and explaining more efficiently it feels [13:56] asac, other channel, UITK change needs a new release of the app [13:56] right [13:56] pmcgowan: other apps as well? [13:56] asac, not sure, the others all seemed to run clean [13:57] just looking at maguro results [13:59] <_lunarcold> Hi, trying to build for my m7spr, and I keep getting this error [13:59] <_lunarcold> make: *** No rule to make target `frameworks/base/nfc-extras/com.android.nfc_extras.xml', needed by `/home/jeff/m7spr/out/target/product/m7spr/system/etc/permissions/com.android.nfc_extras.xml'. Stop. [13:59] <_lunarcold> make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... [14:03] <_lunarcold> this error occurs when I build with the "brunch m7spr" command [14:04] <_lunarcold> I'm trying to build from the makefile and so far it hasn't thrown the error yet :/ === _salem is now known as salem_ [14:18] janimo: good to know it was just a hiccup [14:21] Hello [14:22] Hello [14:22] anybody there? [14:25] Hi everyone [14:26] asac: ack. we have that data in our .yaml files. We'd need to start storing it in the qa-dashboard and showing the diff. Not too hard, but we need to find time. I'll add it as a work-item for the dashboard [14:26] Just a little question: I was testing ubuntu touch some weeks ago and the network manager didn' t have the option to connecto to EAP wifi network [14:27] is there a way to do so? [14:27] cjwatson: bzoltan: are the click tools packages available in pre-saucy releases? [14:30] asac: I've been looking at it, a few jobs have been restarted, same bug as yesterday for sure on filemanager tests [14:30] jdstrand: you should talk to diwic regarding his plans for PA->alsa and no binder [14:31] mhall119: bzoltan did some backports in the SDK PPA === Namidairo is now known as Namidairo`bnc [14:39] sergiusens: ack [14:41] mhall119: hey, I commented on https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/ubuntu-calendar-app/add-attribution/+merge/176809 some time ago [14:44] thanks cjwatson [14:48] oSoMoN: you are correct, I only removed people with @canonical.com addresses [14:49] mhall119: I guess om26er should be using his @canonical.com address for contributions made during working hours [14:49] oSoMoN: it doesn't hurt to have him listed there separately though, so you can approve the branch if you don't want to wait for me to update it [14:49] oSoMoN: eh, that's not really that important, all of my contributions are with my @ubuntu.com address [14:49] that's just my default bzr info [14:50] mhall119: yeah, I don’t really mind, was just pointing it out, I’ll approve the branch [14:50] and besides, I'm not sure he was making that contribution as part of his job [14:52] mhall119, oSoMoN right, core-apps generally don't fall as part of my job, but I have a certain interest in autopilot tests so I contribute a bit.. but in some cases I am asked by my superiors to do the work, like the recent autopilot tests fixes for touch. [14:53] the line between work and community contribtuions is always blurry for Canonical folks [14:54] om26er, mhall119: yup [14:55] <_lunarcold> any help with getting this build to work? I can't seem to find where this nfc step is failing [15:26] ogra_: I flashed my phone it seems to have no backdrop just black I'll reboot it and see what is what [15:26] when will it be realesed to download [15:27] hi [15:28] harris, it is downloadable since februar [15:28] davmor2, odd [15:28] no not the developer [15:28] the full thing [15:28] like out for the public [15:28] on release day [15:28] with the rest of 13.10 [15:29] ogra_: reboot and I have the correct background no idea what caused that [15:30] ogra_: do you see these http://ubuntuone.com/1BONFEbcI2skarKPOfDKgR ? [15:31] ogra_: I'm assuming it's just all the scopes [15:31] davmor2, i see some of them (my image is two days old though) [15:32] ogra_: for me today there are about 2 pages of those :) [15:32] lovely [15:35] ogra_: I wouldn't mind but obviously most of the scopes only work on search from the home screen and does search work on the home screen, does it boat. ;) and if you click on them you get nothing where as in the desktop you at least can enable disable them on clicking them :0 [15:35] :) even [15:49] ogra_: having --legacy might still be useful for people tracking bugs and doing demos (I know, old stuff, but we know what is broken in there) [15:49] sergiusens: dude, you're starting your day at 7am, I wish I could do such thing hahah [15:49] rsalveti, sure, but we really need to drop it on release day ... once we have a stable release it should only be release or dev image [15:49] m-b-o, ping [15:50] ogra_: right, indeed [15:50] rsalveti: ogra_ in the new branch it's very isolated from the rest of the stuff so I wouldn't care anymore [15:53] is the latest release really a week old? [15:53] balloons: pong === jasoncwarner__ is now known as jasoncwarner [15:53] according to phablet-flash 20130731.3 [15:54] m-b-o, I wanted to chat with you and elopio about your tab troubles in the weather app. elopio just finished some changes to the tab emulator, but I don't think they would affect your issue. maybe :-) [15:54] awafaa, that's the last release that passed all tests, hence it's pushed to you by default [15:54] daily builds are still occuring [15:55] balloons: thanks, would i be getting that release because i used -b for a new device? [15:56] balloons: would it be possible in 3h? I have saddled my bicycle just a moment ago... :) [15:56] m-b-o, of course :-) you enjoy you ride! [15:56] I will, thanks :) [15:56] awafaa, tes [15:57] ok so without the -b i should get the daily, thanks [15:57] awafaa, it doesn't matter which setting you used.. phablet flash will pull the stable by default [15:57] sorry to confuse, I misread :-0 [15:57] oh, so how do i get the stuff that slices my eyes when i look at it? [15:58] --pending should pull the latest [15:58] I believe :-) [15:58] great, tvm === greyback_ is now known as greyback|food [16:32] hi [16:32] im trying to port ubuntu touch and it wont build a zip that i can flash [16:33] please help [16:35] hello === greyback|food is now known as greyback === sporkeee is now known as wilee-nilee [17:26] iBelieve, back from vacation? :-) [17:26] iBelieve, I'm sorry to have dropped such huges changes to file manager tests while you were away! [17:28] balloons, yep, and working on more cool stuff for the file manager :) [17:28] balloons, no problem about the huge changes, I was looking over the new autopilot tests and they look really cool how they work! [17:34] who is working on porting to nexus 7 2013? (flo) === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away [17:48] click packages not installable right now? Or am I doing something wrong? I'm getting: [17:48] ValueError: Framework "ubuntu-sdk-13.10" not present on system [18:10] if only emulator would not hang! === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [18:44] hi everyone [18:45] I have a question about submitting an image [18:47] Or publishing an image to be more appropriate [18:49] deleted ubuntu touch from galaxy nexus, now there is no os, how can i sideload os from windows | http://askubuntu.com/q/329426 [18:50] rc-e66: did you create a port? [19:02] balloons: ping [19:02] m-b-o, pong [19:02] what's up? :) [19:03] so let's talk tabs, and as luck would have it, I'm messing with your ap tests to fix the issues with the device [19:03] you want to branch this one https://code.launchpad.net/~martin-borho/ubuntu-weather-app/sdk_emulator [19:03] pushed some fixes [19:04] m-b-o, so what about the tab emulator failed you? and does this fix it? https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/fix1206251-tabs/+merge/178410 [19:04] so what's the best tablet to get for this? [19:04] elopio made changes to not be so hacky with how we get and switch tabs ;-) [19:04] I understand that the google nexus is underpowered because of the RAM.. === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [19:05] balloons: haven't seen this, will check [19:05] m-b-o, ohh you made a branch that converted.. nice [19:06] balloons: for sure! But what do you mean with converted? ;) [19:07] sorry, I mean you made a branch with the new toolkit.. I've been playing with the branch as published [19:07] sergiusens: I followed the instructions on the wiki. I had my old droid incredible that I was interested in using as a PMP. [19:07] rc-e66: PMP? [19:07] * sergiusens is lost in acronyms today [19:08] balloons: yes, I have overwritten the Tab emulator. See in emulator.py [19:08] sergiusens: Portable Media Player [19:08] sergiusens: It's not the fastest and I can't technically verify the modem pieces due to lack of service, but I only care for wifi and sd card functionality. [19:08] balloons: the one test that crashes is date related and should be okay tomorrow O:-) [19:09] rc-e66: so you want to install an image, not create one? [19:09] m-b-o, ok, I think there might be a need for more asserts, as the tests are failing on the device.. but I'll take care of that.. [19:09] sergiusens: I'd like to have it added to the regular builds, like those for the Nexus devices. [19:10] rc-e66: oh, we don't do the regular building (yet) [19:10] balloons: which device do you use? [19:10] m-b-o, manta [19:10] rc-e66: but we do have a way to make it easily available [19:10] sergiusens: I thought I saw a repo for the images on quantal? [19:10] but have a look: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/3382/ubuntu-weather-app-autopilot/ [19:10] m-b-o, ^^ [19:10] rc-e66: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/MakingPortsAvailable [19:11] balloons: tried on maguro and test_refresh_tabs is the only one left that is failing (date related) [19:11]