[11:39] <snap-l> Goodmorning
[11:39] <rick_h> morning
[11:40] <snap-l> I have no scientific basis for this theory, but I think my computer video runs faster over HDMI
[11:41] <snap-l> It just feels snappier today
[11:41] <rick_h> vs vga?
[11:41] <snap-l> dvi
[11:42] <snap-l> I also attribute this to a phenominon I noticed whenever listening to remastered audio
[11:42] <snap-l> I'd suddenly hear things, and think " wow, this remaster is really making things pop"
[11:42] <snap-l> only to listen to the old version and realize it was there all along, I was just listening more carefully
[11:42] <snap-l> phantom-awesome.
[11:44] <snap-l> could be the card as well not having to do something or other
[11:46] <snap-l> Again, nothing in reality to base this assertion
[13:34] <snap-l> I <3 crashes related to video drivers.
[13:35] <snap-l> Making me think twice about the AMD card.
[13:35] <rick_h> how does one know that it's related to the video card?
[13:35] <brousch> Intel or DIAF
[13:35] <snap-l> One sees segfaults in chrome, X server, compiz, etc.
[13:35] <snap-l> Intel can DIAF
[13:36] <rick_h> heh, intel or bust on laptops
[13:36] <rick_h> but I'm enjoying my 3 monitor hookup on my nvidia on the desktop
[13:36] <snap-l> Yeah, Intel is great if you don't care about graphics
[13:36] <rick_h> but care about battery life and crashing :P
[13:37] <snap-l> Yep
[13:37] <snap-l> I have a beta driver installed now
[13:37] <snap-l> Price I pay for a newer card
[13:37] <snap-l> Didn't have as much problem with the 5450, but it's a slow-mo-fo
[13:37] <snap-l> 7750 is proving crashy
[13:38] <rick_h> 660ti works no problems :)
[13:38] <snap-l> But that said, I'm overall pretty pleased
[13:38] <snap-l> Yeah, I'll bet. If I spent as much on my video card as I did on my past 3 computers I'd be happy too. ;)
[13:39] <snap-l> Actually 660ti is not as expensive as I thought
[13:39] <rick_h> you buy $70 computers
[13:39] <rick_h> ?
[13:39] <snap-l> Well, I did buy two RasPis
[13:39] <snap-l> ;)
[13:39] <rick_h> oh now that's cheating and you know it
[13:39] <snap-l> heh
[13:40] <snap-l> I thought it was a more expensive card
[13:40] <snap-l> damn model numbers
[13:40] <rick_h> yea, I mean I didn't shoot the moon on graphics, just the rest of it
[13:41] <rick_h> though it does appear to be 2x the ati one. Figured it'd be closer
[13:43] <snap-l> http://www.microcenter.com/product/406092/HD7750-DCSL-1GD5_AMD_Radeon_HD_7750_DirectCU_Silent_1024MB_GDDR5_PCIe_30_x16_Video_Card
[13:43] <snap-l> That's the one that I have
[13:43] <rick_h> gotcha
[13:43] <snap-l> Wanted something without a fan on it
[13:45] <snap-l> Not like the rest of the computer is silent or anything, but for some reason I have this thumb-sucking idea that I needed a silent video card. :)
[13:53] <brousch> Got a survey call from the "HP Mirosoft Team". I totally destroyed their scripted questions
[13:54] <rick_h> at least it wasn't the HP Microsoft Oracle team :P
[13:58] <brousch> I love questions about my datacenter. It's 2 dell server towers and a Synology NAS
[13:59] <brousch> And my network infrastructure is a single 48 port 100mbps switch
[14:02] <rick_h> lol
[14:09] <brousch> My database infrastructure is Access97 and Postgres
[15:19] <rick_h> gentlemen! start your linters! http://www.logilab.org/blogentry/163292
[18:13] <snap-l> Interesting listening to a song about the 1990s gulf war twenty years later
[18:14] <snap-l> (Hexx - Fire Mushrooms in case anyone is wondering)
[18:35] <greg-g> snap-l: always interesting to hear those old songs saying things people didn't want to believe were true, and now we know they are
[18:35]  * greg-g doesn't know that song
[18:35] <greg-g> but in general
[18:42] <jrwren> is that anything like listening ot songs about the 92 riots 21yrs later?
[18:42] <jrwren> LA92!!!!
[18:43] <greg-g> jrwren: nice
[18:51] <brousch> Damn this celery queue on Windows is annoying to set up. I need celery which needs rabbitmq which needs erlang
[18:51] <rick_h> celery works with redis, or a database even
[18:51] <brousch> redis has some unsupported windows port
[18:51] <rick_h> I just got through changing the bookie celery use from db to redis which is what I'm working on landing soon
[18:51] <brousch> For database I'm stuck with sqlite or I have to install a real DB
[18:51] <rick_h> right now, bmark.us uses postgresql for it
[18:52] <rick_h> but it can use sqlite (single worker though :/) or mysql
[18:52] <brousch> It seems like a lot of work for a queue
[18:52] <rick_h> and the celery back end can be on a different machine
[18:52] <rick_h> brousch: it can also use amazon's SQS, though there was a bug when I tried it a couple of years ago
[18:53] <rick_h> shoot, there are redis as a service places
[18:53] <brousch> I'm going for more compact, not more spread out
[18:53] <rick_h> you can host it on linux somewhere else and talk to it from windows
[18:53] <brousch> I want something I can install and run localhost
[18:53] <rick_h> postgres has a nice windows install these days?
[18:54] <rick_h> or keep having fun trying to get erlang/rabbitmq on windows
[18:54] <rick_h> feels a bit "damn I can't get this hemi to fit into my go-kart" to me :P
[18:54] <brousch> The instructions aren't bad, but it's a lot of stuff to keep track of between dev and prod
[18:55] <jrwren> brousch: i hate to suggest mysql
[18:55] <brousch> maybe i should put rabbit/redis on a linux vm
[18:55] <jrwren> but it really is easy to run out of process, but still uninstalled on windows.
[19:01] <Blazeix> i ran redis on windows a while back, seemed fairly painless
[19:02] <brousch> Same amount of pain as rabbitmq on Windows, but less supported
[19:02] <Blazeix> even had c# code talking to it
[19:02] <Blazeix> oh, well i don't know about the support, but it was trivial to connect to it and start storing data
[19:02] <Blazeix> this was for local development, and maybe ~20 concurrent users
[19:03] <Blazeix> so not a seriously hammered app
[19:03] <brousch> I won't have more than 20 users in this
[19:06] <brousch> Actually I can only use 1 worker for this, so sqlite might be good enough
[19:07] <greg-g> oh god: https://github.com/kennethreitz/autoenv
[19:07] <rick_h> greg-g: yea, that came up at pyohio
[19:07] <brousch> If it's not enough, I'll set up rabbit on linux
[19:08] <greg-g> rick_h: in a "never ever ever do this" kind of way?
[19:08] <rick_h> greg-g: as in some guy was "I love this autoenv thing, I just wish it would do XX" and Kenneth was there going "I've thought about that"
[19:08] <rick_h> Followed by "...you wrote it?"
[19:08] <greg-g> haha
[19:09] <rick_h> gotta love conferences
[19:09] <greg-g> :) yep
[19:09] <brousch> That was funny
[19:09] <rick_h> but yea, it's not my cup of tea
[19:09] <brousch> Jace got all wide-eyed
[19:09] <greg-g> I came across it via http://richardhartmann.de/blog/posts/2013/08/06-High_security/
[19:09] <rick_h> I'm pretty much anti-magic
[19:09] <rick_h> hah
[19:10] <rick_h> yea, I think Jace had a good time at the conference.
[19:10] <rick_h> was fun to hang out with a first-timer
[19:16] <brousch> He had a lot of good questions
[20:40] <brousch> Using Django with Python3.3 in my newest application
[20:59] <snap-l> any particular reason for this? :)
[21:01] <brousch> Because I am awesome
[21:01] <brousch> I need this to stick around for a few years without having to re-write it for PYthon3
[21:10] <snap-l> Be careful what you wish for. :)