[00:03] <scottrigby> dedi: so
[00:03] <scottrigby> as a non-ubuntu-os user, i was just looking at the docs here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi
[00:04] <scottrigby> ah. Sudo :)
[00:05] <scottrigby> reboooot
[00:10] <KyleYankan> scottrigby: "sudo !!" is a great bash command. !! repeats your last command.
[00:10] <scottrigby> KyleYankan: bang bang FTW!
[00:10] <scottrigby> yea
[00:11] <scottrigby> i just am unfamiliar with ubuntu OS (use ubuntu servers a lot)
[00:11] <scottrigby> JonathanD: so… IRSSI is in the terminal?
[00:11] <jedijf> where are the winners play
[00:11] <TheLordOfTime> jedijf:  i typically only run the other releases to test nginx builds
[00:11] <TheLordOfTime> jedijf:  for what I use the other releases for, i really only need to be able to test server packages
[00:11] <TheLordOfTime> since that's where my focus lies
[00:12] <TheLordOfTime> (responding to scrollbacks!)
[00:12] <jedijf> scottrigby: terminal yes -
[00:13] <scottrigby> lol that was the 'user friendly' suggestion
[00:13] <jedijf> depends on the users you ask ;)
[00:14] <scottrigby> what about automatic connection to a bouncer?
[00:15] <jedijf> some do bouncer - most you know do screen+irssi
[00:17] <jedijf> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi
[00:17] <jedijf> general info ^^^
[00:20] <scottrigby> cool
[00:21] <scottrigby> i set up a bouncer for him a few mins ago… but it's loosing the connection after establishing… for some reason :p
[00:22] <TheLordOfTime> scottrigby:  which end is losing connection?
[00:22] <TheLordOfTime> the bouncer to the IRC network, or the client to the bouncer?
[00:23] <scottrigby> TheLordOfTime: good question :p how can we tell?
[00:24] <TheLordOfTime> what bouncer software
[00:24] <scottrigby> znc
[00:24] <TheLordOfTime> what version
[00:24] <TheLordOfTime> i ask because IT IS ENTIRELY RELEVANT
[00:24] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[00:24] <TheLordOfTime> whoops caps
[00:24] <KyleYankan> Caps made it funnier.
[00:24] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[00:24] <scottrigby> haha yes i liked that
[00:24] <KyleYankan> I imagined you SUDDENLY LOSING CONTROL.
[00:24]  * scottrigby looking
[00:24] <TheLordOfTime> scottrigby:  when he connects to the bouncer does his IRC channels show up?
[00:25] <scottrigby> ZNC 1.0-alpha1
[00:25] <TheLordOfTime> ewwwwwwww
[00:25] <TheLordOfTime> scottrigby:  where'd you get that from
[00:25] <scottrigby> :p
[00:25] <TheLordOfTime> scottrigby:  seriously though where'd you get that from
[00:25] <TheLordOfTime> 1.0's already stable
[00:25] <TheLordOfTime> it's in 12.04 and later last i checkede
[00:25]  * TheLordOfTime double checks the archives
[00:26] <TheLordOfTime> okay it's in raring, b ut its in quantal and precise backports...
[00:26] <TheLordOfTime> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/znc
[00:32] <TheLordOfTime> scottrigby:  anyways, if *status says "You are not connected to IRC.  Use the 'connect' command to connect" or similar, then ZNC is disconnected from the IRC server (remote IRC network)
[00:32] <TheLordOfTime> scottrigby:  if your IRC client just keeps disconnecting from the ZNC you'd know because your IRC client would say "Disconnected (somemessage)"  and then probably try to reconnect
[00:34] <TheLordOfTime> s/your/their/
[03:51] <jthan> InHisName: I would be delighted to meet up at fosscon at some point
[03:51] <jthan> jedijf: ^ you too.
[03:53] <KyleYankan> jedijf is a fosscon fixture. You don't meet-up with him, you prepare for him.
[03:54] <jthan> Lol
[03:55]  * jthan is preparing 
[04:07] <jthan> Whatever happened to IdleOne?
[04:07] <jthan> Is he still in Canada?
[04:08] <KyleYankan> Another soul lost to the great white north?
[04:08] <jthan> I don't know if "lost" is the right word, but.. Yeah.
[04:29] <jthan> ]]]]]
[04:29] <jthan> oops
[09:14] <rmg51> Morning
[09:35] <JonathanD> Morning.
[12:05] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys and everything else
[12:24] <jedijf> jthan: can't wait - but i think you'll be with bts most of the day!
[16:00] <dedi> hello! trying to install drupal on linux 13.04... very new to linux, so ill need to start from scratch xD
[16:07] <scottrigby> dedi: is the question "what is the best way to set up a web server on Lubuntu?"
[16:07] <scottrigby> i don't know the answer unfortunately, but i think that's what you want to do
[16:10] <KyleYankan> Hey dedi, how far along are you? So you have a Apache/MySQL/Perl/PHP installed already?
[16:41] <jedijf> sudo tasksel - look for lamp
[16:47] <scottrigby> hey guys so… the file ownership is mostly root:root on dedi's laptop. That doesn't seem right
[16:47] <scottrigby> even in /var/www
[16:47] <scottrigby> in there i would think we want www-data
[16:47] <pleia2> that sounds right
[16:48] <pleia2> why?
[16:48] <pleia2> if it's world readable there is no reason to give access to www-data
[16:48] <scottrigby> so apache can write to it?
[16:48] <pleia2> you should restrict that as much as possible
[16:48] <pleia2> give www-data access *only* to what it needs to write to
[16:49] <pleia2> it's the most risky user on the whole box, choose permissions wisely
[16:49]  * scottrigby nods
[16:49] <scottrigby> pleia2: what group do you use when you do?
[16:50] <pleia2> I keep /var/www the way it is, then give user access to the webserver files
[16:50] <pleia2> so owned by dedi probably, then they don't need to use root to edit them
[16:50] <scottrigby> right yeah. Like uploads directory etc
[16:51] <scottrigby> oh you mean instead of www-data:www-data do something like deci:admin?
[16:51] <pleia2> uploads directory probably needs to be writeable by www-data
[16:51] <scottrigby> *dedi
[16:51] <scottrigby> pleia2: ah i see
[16:52] <pleia2> so uploads/ would be owned by www-data, index.html and /static-images may be owned by dedi
[16:52] <scottrigby> so /var/www is root:root, the contents are dedi:SOME_GROUP  and the upload (in Drupal the public files directory) is www-data:www-data
[16:52] <pleia2> yep
[16:52] <pleia2> I don't kow about drupal specifically, it may also need to write to some other stuff, the install docs should say so
[16:53] <scottrigby> is there a good default group for www-data?
[16:53] <pleia2> (some webserver docs tell you to chmod 777 everything, fortunately drupal is much more mature than that :))
[16:53] <scottrigby> pleia2: yeah i know generally about that. Just not super familiar with a fresh local Lubuntu
[16:53] <pleia2> could just www-data:www-data
[16:53] <scottrigby> hahaha yeah. No 777
[16:53] <scottrigby> pleia2: cool yeah.
[16:54] <scottrigby> is there a good default group for the laptop owner (dedi as the admin system user)? like 'admin'?
[16:55] <pleia2> the 'adm' group is good because it gives you access to most logs in /var/log
[16:55] <pleia2> (no 'admin' by default)
[16:56] <scottrigby> pleia2: awesome adm sounds perfect :)
[19:25] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: alex is coming to fosscon, you should too
[19:25] <jedijf> and jthan
[19:53] <wyattderp> Lets see names I know.
[19:54] <wyattderp> bts3685, pleia2, Pici, jthan, JonathanD, MutantTurkey, jedijf, jackson, ChinnoDog(Who I met in person but he was more of a bunny at that point), paulproteus, teddy-dbear (who's bear punched me in the face once)
[20:02] <jedijf> actually, teddy /is/ the bear
[20:02]  * wyattderp pokes teddy-dbear o.O "really"
[20:03] <teddy-dbear> really
[20:04] <teddy-dbear> http://gallery.ubuntupennsylvania.org/v/20080823/IMG_6287.JPG.html
[20:05] <teddy-dbear> does that help? ^
[20:06] <wyattderp> Yes, quite a bit.... o.O now I know to avoid poking the bear.
[20:06] <wyattderp> Or I'll be eaten..
[20:06] <wyattderp> Again o.O
[20:12] <wyattderp> http://gallery.ubuntupennsylvania.org/v/20091031-1/img_4243.jpg.html  -- I'm the derpy one in the cape.
[20:13] <teddy-dbear> thought so
[20:13] <wyattderp> Yeah xD - longtime no see.
[20:14] <KyleYankan> wyattderp: did you move away from the area?
[20:14] <JonathanD> suddenly I'm seeing wyattderp everywhere.
[20:14] <teddy-dbear> and I didn't poke you in the face
[20:14] <teddy-dbear> I stabbed you
[20:15] <wyattderp> KyleYankan, Nope -- I am still in pottstown area... Moved from my first house to  Stowe due to eviction and other such crap of life.
[20:15] <wyattderp> teddy-dbear, Worse...
[20:15] <wyattderp> Why!!!
[20:16] <teddy-dbear> why not?
[20:16] <teddy-dbear> I had a sword
[20:16] <teddy-dbear> you were there
[20:18] <wyattderp> Bears are not suppoed to be killers! Only Fluffy and stuff..
[20:19] <teddy-dbear> think again :-D
[20:19] <rmg51> time to go
[20:20] <rmg51> say goodbye to the bear
[20:20] <wyattderp> teddy-dbear, I'll remember this... o.o
[20:20] <teddy-dbear> bye
[20:31] <wyattderp> Is is dbear going to FOSS as well?