[05:48] good morning [06:51] morning all [06:59] wb Kilos and good morning [07:06] ty inetpro have a good day [07:09] jy ook dankie oom [07:24] hi sakhi drussell [07:31] Kilos: hey Kilos, how's things? [07:32] good ty and you? [07:48] Kilos: very good thanks [08:03] hi Vince-0 [08:28] hiya maiatoday [08:29] hi Kilos [08:29] hi Kilos [08:29] hi maiatoday [08:29] hi psyatw [08:30] im heading for a fresh install looks like. unity went slow and started hanging every now and again [08:31] so back on old faithful maverick to try an fsck from here and maybe a bad block check [08:33] morning [08:33] hi Squirm [08:33] Kilos! [08:33] /usr/bin even lost sudo [08:33] hi ThatGraemeGuy [08:34] man i've never reinstalled windows as many times as you've installed ubuntu :-o [08:34] :-p [08:34] hahaha yeah it could be old drives [08:35] this was a discard others couldnt fix [08:35] morning Squirm [08:35] hi ThatGraemeGuy [08:35] hahaha [08:35] but 500g so i dont wanna lose it [08:35] 'lo 'lo 'lo :-) [08:36] normally I only re-install Ubuntu/Kubuntu when moving from one version to another [08:36] but re-installing Windows, I must have done that hundreds of times by now [08:37] everything was good last night but it doesnt even see my kubuntu drive this morning [08:38] also you guys know what you are doing. i learn to forget to learn [08:42] we have messed up our linux systems hundreds of times as well, that´s how we learned [08:46] you ever used a command like this [08:46] sudo fsck.ext4 -cDfty -C 0 /dev/sdb1 [08:46] it checks for bad blocks [08:52] then gives an output like http://slexy.org/view/s21W1goIAk [08:53] whatever that might mean [08:57] i go see if its fixed [08:57] wbb [09:09] well! its working so far [09:09] Maaz, coffee on [09:09] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [09:11] Maaz, and grandpa [09:11] ai! Kilos headache again? [09:13] Maaz, define inode [09:13] Kilos: I don't know about inode. Maybe you meant Node, Inde, Anode, Enode, node, anode or isode? [09:13] hmm... [09:13] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [09:13] Maaz, thanks [09:13] Kilos: Sure [09:14] ThatGraemeGuy, can you please give me that slexy.org link [09:14] eh? [09:14] http://slexy.org/ [09:14] that one? [09:15] just before i went off [09:15] o_O [09:15] oh [09:15] http://slexy.org/view/s21W1goIAk [09:15] i was on maverick now on unity [09:15] ty [09:15] np [09:16] an inode is an on-disk structure used by a filesystem to keep track of blocks of data belonging to a certain file or directory [09:16] AFAIK [09:17] so its part of the drive? not software [09:18] even slexy is starting to put adds in now [09:18] sigh [09:19] haai [09:20] i think that bad blocks command is similar to ms scandisk or chkdsk [09:20] marks bad sectors [09:33] Kilos: an inode is part of the patitioning scheme on the drive [09:33] ty Squirm [09:33] so it'll come with something like ext3/4 [09:34] looks like my /var/ was in a bad area or something because my /archives are gone [09:34] everything here is ext4 [10:18] wbb [10:23] anyone know of a cheap, international delivery company? [10:23] need something shipped to china [10:59] Afternoon everyone [10:59] hello mazal [10:59] hi mazal [10:59] How are you guys ? [10:59] cool ty and you? [10:59] Good thanx [11:01] hi Xethron [11:03] mazal, jy sal jou eie nvidia kaart moet koop vir die werk pc as jy will jou externe skyf laat werk by altwee plekke [11:03] Maar laat hulle solank bestel [11:03] anders sukkel jy nog in ses maande tyd [11:04] Neewat sal op die twee verskillendes werk tot 14.04 en hoop dit gaan beter dan [11:04] Hopenlik verbeter die ati drywers [11:04] Of unity [11:05] hehe ek dink dit sal altyd kwell to kaarte die selle is [11:08] Unity het als moeiliker gemaak [11:08] stem [11:09] Ek kannie onthou dat ek sulke graphic issues met gtk2 gehad het nie [11:09] Ubuntu het eenvoudig gewerk op als [11:09] maar dit groei nog [11:10] hulle vat groot tree vorentoe, miskien om nuwe goed te begin voor ander [11:12] Die probleem is die hele mobile met touchscreens craze. Unity is eintlik daarvoor begin [11:13] Even Win 8 het agter dit aangegaan [11:13] ja mobile goed groei te vinnig en almal will deel wees daarvan [11:14] Geen mobile device sal ooit die power en versatility en storage van 'n pc kan vervang nie. [11:14] Die goed kom nie eers naby nie [11:14] Dis net 'n " nice to have " , maar as dit kom by power en hard werk is pc baas [11:15] ek te dom met die nuwe goed [12:10] afternoon all [12:10] ohi superfly [12:10] hi magespawn [12:10] hi Kilos [12:11] hey superfly [12:11] hi magespawn [12:11] you been scarce magespawn [12:11] hi superfly [12:11] hello magespawn [12:11] hi Vince-0 [12:11] busy busy busy [12:11] yup been doing work out of the shop [12:11] hi psyatw [12:12] good night everyone, I'm going to bed. [12:12] good night superfly [12:12] okay been up long then, sleep well [12:12] oh my [12:12] but it´s still so early on the day [12:12] night superfly sleep well [12:13] the day has just started :) [12:13] you sick? [12:13] shame poor oke [12:17] Haai! [12:17] tryna get attendees registered for RMS in Durban: [12:17] http://durbanlinux.org.za/?page_id=18 [12:26] * not_found saw the campaign :) [12:35] yaa, [12:35] Daniel Fowler is in New York to see RMS at the moment [12:35] hopefully he at least makes it to SA and with some more luck to Durban [12:43] Bye everyone , have a nice evening [15:45] musta been hard for afrikaans peeps to move into the pc world. its genetically inbred in them to fix things with blou draad en n tang [15:47] that's racist [15:47] hehe [15:49] sorry neelsie [15:49] i was expecting to be shot down in flames [15:50] :p I am not that easily offended, not much you can't fix with blou draad ;) [15:50] yeah [15:50] not with pcs anyway [15:50] the can keep your bits and pieces together :) [15:51] hehe [16:02] I used some draad just yesterday to fasten a heat-sink that didn't fit [16:02] hahaha [16:02] +1 [16:03] cable ties are the modern way and they are none conductive [16:03] ya but that's what the blou is for on the draad [16:04] used a cable tie as well [16:04] blou draar := draad me blou om [16:05] *draad [16:06] the blou being a plastic coating? [16:06] aha [16:36] Hi there [16:36] hi jhb_hacker [16:37] welcome to ubuntu-za [16:37] Looking for ubuntu stickers, preferably somewhere In JHB or Pretoria [16:38] maybe from te guys that have the release parties there [16:38] dont see any of them on here today [16:38] s/te/the [16:39] try our mailing list. there are many more peeps there [16:39] http://bit.ly/MCOujZ [16:39] will do, thanks... [16:40] spoke to house4hack [16:40] hang around maybe someone here has an idea where you can get as well [16:41] or download and print some [16:41] sure thing, where you based? [16:41] pta [16:41] but im the greeter bot here [16:41] ever go mLab? [16:42] nope i never go anywhere [16:42] im a ballie [16:43] do you use ubuntu? [16:44] yes I do, have been for four years now...so am still pretty new [16:44] wow and you only get here now [16:44] this is the help channel [16:45] I know right? very strange [16:46] started out experimenting...tried using strictly ubuntu for a year...nevr went back [16:47] good [16:47] good morning [16:47] yo inetpro [16:47] jhb_hacker: see http://blog.smartcube.co.za/2009/05/26/ubuntu-pc-badges-for-za/ [16:47] thanks [16:48] we should actually get someone to design a new sticker for us again [16:48] those logos are outdated [16:49] I agree [16:49] I know a designer who would do it for us.... [16:50] jhb_hacker: for free? [16:51] yes, for free [16:51] sounds interesting [16:51] jhb_hacker: so are those the kind that you are looking for? [16:53] sure, I can convince the guy its not just me....then maybe we can make the design available to anyone for print [16:56] jhb_hacker, what do you do? [16:56] workwise that is [16:57] web developer: python+java [16:57] cool [16:58] Kilos: yourself? [16:58] im retired [16:58] very tired [16:59] why is that? [17:01] lol im a ballie [17:02] im here to see the kids behave [17:02] lol, understood [17:03] im actually here because i need help often, i do stupid things [17:03] wb Zarw [17:04] Ello [17:11] Kilos: why did you choose ubuntu? [17:12] i got tired of all the hassles with ms and looked for an alternative and was given a cd with 8.04 on [17:13] but only got networking on 8.10 [17:13] i love ubuntu in unity and kde [17:16] and the friendly guys here that helped me through the learning curve [17:19] evening [17:19] hi magespawn [17:21] Kilos: awesome, still remembr first time I got my hands on 8.04, canonical used to mail cd's w/ stickers [17:22] ya i got a few later from shipit i think it was [17:24] Kilos: I felt like the coolest person alive...enjoyd using it in public..."whats that?, is that the new windows?"... [17:24] hahaha [17:25] but still dunno how you guys use ubuntu so long without getting here [17:25] i think i used 8.10 for 2 or three weeks then got here [17:26] and almost been here daily since [17:26] there are very clever peeps here [17:28] Kilos: I guess I prefer breaking things... [17:28] thats how I learn mostly [17:28] thyats why im here , to get help fixing what ive broken [17:29] if i say eish or ai! they already ask me what ive broken now [17:29] hehe [17:30] hehe...I like the fact by using ubuntu, u get to know how operating systems really work, that control [17:30] can nt be replaced [17:31] you havent tried kubuntu yet? [17:32] not yet, [17:33] bit different but even more powerful imo [17:35] cool, they use a different window manager right? [17:35] yeah [17:37] kde [17:39] jhb_hacker, magespawn is in hluhluwe [17:39] right, I am not a big fan of kde...nothing against it, my first encounter with open os's was with gnome [17:39] Kilos: thats sooo cool [17:40] magespawn: hi there [17:41] hi jhb_hacker [17:42] magespawn: to be honest, I wouldnt expect to find some1 from hluhluwe who z in to gnu/linux [17:43] magespawn: thats so cool [17:43] long story really twisty story [17:43] ... [17:44] and he does game watching tours [17:44] and i am not necessarily from hluhluwe, just living here at the moment [17:44] hi psychicist [17:45] hi Kilos [17:45] hi psychicist [17:45] magespawn: where u from originally? [17:46] jhb [17:46] jozi joller [17:46] hi magespawn [17:48] I recently saw a "futuristic ubuntu theme" on youtube...the guy refuses to share the theme or a how-to [17:49] https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCsQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dqqxp9q5j-RA&ei=BDcBUqbVOoi2hQe83oB4&usg=AFQjCNE3ech-mAKWbSYwe5fFReSfxC_8dw&sig2=2J-CSizWj353uZsB57mvCw&bvm=bv.50310824,d.ZWU [17:50] anyone know a theme similar to this? [17:51] Kilos that tool I was talking about yesterday is Tortilla Tool [17:51] hmm... [17:51] tool for? sorry i forget [17:51] hi jhb_hacker [17:52] hi psychicist [17:52] the one that started the discussion around tor [17:52] aha [17:52] i nearly reinstalled today [17:53] but the bad block command fixed my unity [18:10] jhb_hacker: impratical. you'd play with it for 10 minutes and then switch back to your normal theme because you need to Get Things Done [18:12] jhb_hacker, superfly is our resident python expert [18:13] Kilos: "expert" is a strong word [18:13] cold there tomorrow superfly 13 C MAX [18:13] NBOT STRONG ENOUGH [18:13] NOT [18:13] sorry [18:13] Kilos: oh really? I didn't even know what it was like where today until mrs_fly mentioned it in passing [18:14] yeah bad cold front and snow on the mountains [18:14] you sick superfly ? [18:15] uhuh [18:15] ai! [18:17] yo neelsie [18:17] Wazzup uncle Kilos :) [18:18] temps down not up [18:18] that sucks [18:18] sigh [18:18] and snow on all the cape mountains and heading this way tomorrow [18:18] sigh [18:20] :( [18:32] superfly: if not you then who? maybe python cheerleader? [18:32] wb jhb_hacker [18:32] magespawn: I know Python well, I know how to do things the Pythonic way, but I don't claim to be an expert [18:32] he is our master hey magespawn [18:32] indeed [18:34] that's awesome, I will direct my python related questions to you [18:34] was python your first lang superfly? [18:34] superfly: I am looking at the python course through o'reilly school of tech, you know about it and have any thoughts on it? [18:34] we also have some ubuntu dev guys too [18:35] nlsthzn: is that a paid for or free? [18:35] jhb_hacker: no, my 8th or 9th [18:35] nlsthzn: I've heard of it, that is all. [18:36] but the one he shouts about the most [18:36] paid for... [18:37] superfly: cool, [18:37] * nlsthzn is playing around with first virtual server... good way to learn ssh and terminal it would seem [18:38] not sure what to do with it now :p (1gb of ram and only 20% cpu from one core...) [18:38] superfly: which books would you recommend to someone who wants to be pythonic...from a diff lang [18:39] jhb_hacker: there's a free e-book called "A Byte of Python" which gives you an excellent grounding in Python. [18:39] nlsthzn: what, no real server? [18:40] well that depends on what you would define as a real server... my desktop at home serves the network at home (minecraft :P) [18:41] I have found many good resources to learn python but I need to get past the first bit as I always stop after the initial concepts :/ [18:42] * nlsthzn has remembered a few things over the years it seems... tasksel --> LAMP installing ... [18:43] you have minecraft running at home? [18:44] superfly: thanks [18:44] magespawn: yup... [18:44] how did you manage that? [18:44] I don't follow? [18:45] minecraft server? [18:45] wait are talking about the same thing? [18:47] yes, I am running a minecraft server [18:47] the block building game? [18:47] yes [18:47] right [18:48] this is strange? [18:48] not sure thought it was like wow [18:49] oh :) nah it is the simplest thing ever... you get the jar file from the official site and boom you are away [18:49] stupid easy [18:49] even I can do it [18:51] do you not pay to play? [18:52] the client you have to buy [18:52] the server is free [18:53] but if you only want to play then you only need the client... it can create a world on the host system [18:54] ahh are you the only player on your server? [18:58] wife and daughter... [18:58] I don't play so much [18:59] * nlsthzn skipped over several steps and wordpress will not run >.< [18:59] wonder why? [18:59] :p [19:00] maybe something in one of those steps ;) [19:00] maybe it's just wordpress? [19:01] so what would be better to try and install and config superfly? [19:02] http://www.fancy.com/things/327398373323704813/SteamPunk-Chronograph-by-Romain-Jerome [19:02] nlsthzn: I'm a Drupal guy... a little more challenging to start, but much more flexible in the long run [19:02] only the price of car or small house [19:03] ah yes... the droplet guy icon :) [19:03] nlsthzn: but I think the installation these days is easier than WordPress [19:03] magespawn: looks awesome [19:04] superfly: I will have a look at the documentation and perhaps give it a go :) [19:08] * nlsthzn will bbl [19:15] night all. sleep tight [19:25] 'lo [19:44] hey Squirm [19:50] hey magespawn [20:59] night all