[00:00] <boog> juls, settings > removeable drives and media
[00:00] <jKlaus> Hey all.. anyone else running ubuntu 13.04 with a Lenovo T430?
[00:00] <javier_> still at the same point. In synaptic I see I have installed wicd-daemon, python-wc and wicd-gtk, so that explains why I can execute wicd. But, if I remove those packets, I loose every posibility of connection. Someone know which are the network manager dependencies that may have been replaced? I could then install them before removind wicd's
[00:00] <jKlaus> I have a NVS 5400M .. I just tried the 3xx series driver and it seemed to ruin my desktop interface
[00:01] <MoPac> jKlaus: What specifically does the problem look like? I've had a lot of trouble with such drivers and some mixed success with solving them
[00:01] <MoPac> (though on different makes of computer)
[00:02] <daftykins> javier_: well you definitely want to ditch wicd-gtk and wicd-daemon
[00:02] <jKlaus> MoPac. well I have actually had 2 issues occur.  The first install I had used the default driver while doing dual monitors.. It worked alright for dual monitors but when I disconnected the dual the resolution was all messed up.. the desktop its was ok but any application I opened was all messed up
[00:02] <Ziber> So, how I can get a full install of vncviewer instead of this really minimal program?
[00:02] <daftykins> juls: can you pastebin "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[00:03] <jKlaus> MoPac, the more recent issue has just been failing to load the desktop after upgrading to the 3xx series driver
[00:03] <jKlaus> loads the background but no UI
[00:03] <MoPac> jKlaus: So do you login, and then it just brins you back to the login screen?
[00:03] <MoPac> jKlaus: ah, okay, I see
[00:03] <jKlaus> Nope.. just logs me in to the wallpaper lol
[00:04] <juls> daftykins: Disco /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes
[00:04] <juls> 255 cabezas, 63 sectores/pista, 30401 cilindros, 488397168 sectores en total
[00:04] <juls> Unidades = sectores de 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[00:04] <juls> Tamaño de sector (lógico / físico): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[00:04] <juls> Tamaño E/S (mínimo/óptimo): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[00:04] <juls> Identificador del disco: 0x7adf0cca
[00:04] <FloodBot1> juls: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:04] <jKlaus> I can ctrl + alt + t to bring up terminal but even the terminal doesn't act 'right'
[00:04] <MoPac> So what may have heppend is that OpenGL, Unity, etc and the plugins they work with got disabled in Compiz during your upgrade
[00:04] <reactor16> jrib, what if i delete folders that have big space like /usr/lib /etc it take long too ?
[00:04] <MoPac> jKlaus: Do you have ccsm?
[00:04] <jKlaus> Mopac.. I'm kind of thinking I should just do a clean install of 12.04
[00:05] <MoPac> jKlaus: If you don't, then in your terminal, type sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:05] <jKlaus> I really don't want something I have to tinker with to get working all the time.. I left Arch for Ubuntu to get away from that
[00:05] <MoPac> jKlaus: Try this before you reinstall -- once you have that program, open it using the terminal (command "ccsm")
[00:05] <daftykins> juls: you have to use a site like paste.ubuntu.com or pastebin.com
[00:05] <jKlaus> alright
[00:06] <jKlaus> But do you foresee this as being a constant problem?
[00:06] <MoPac> And see if either as you , or as sudo ("sudo ccsm") you can reactivate the OpenGL, Unity, and dependent plugins
[00:06] <MoPac> jKlaus: In the cases where this has fixed it for me, it's fixed it for good
[00:06] <MoPac> jKlaus: But I haven't always been able to fix it this way
[00:06] <jKlaus> Yeah but are there other issues with 13.04?
[00:06] <juls> ok and in poster what i put there
[00:07] <FoxyRK9> hi
[00:07] <MoPac> jKlaus: I don't think this is an issue with 13.04 as opposed to earlier versions.  It's more of a general problem with updatin nvidia drivers on some machines that I've had
[00:07] <juls> i dont know use paste.ubuntu.com
[00:07] <FoxyRK9> what linux program can I download that will help me convert .m3u to .wmp format
[00:08] <jKlaus> Hmm, well I never used to have any issues with ubuntu.. 9.04-11.10 were great
[00:08] <boog> FoxyRK9, m3u is just a playlist file (just text inside)
[00:08] <jKlaus> shoot I think i've been using ubuntu since 6 something maybe?
[00:08] <FoxyRK9> yes but my Mp3 layer is not picking them up
[00:08] <FoxyRK9> Sony walkaman S Sries
[00:09] <boog> edit them to point at the location that the mp3/wmp live on the player
[00:09] <FoxyRK9> so just cut and paste them fro their locations to the playlist folder?
[00:09] <MoPac> jKlaus: One other thing that sometimes works like a stupid miracle is just deleting the .Xauthority file from your home directory and restarting
[00:10] <jKlaus> Thanks though MoPac.. I'll give that a try.  If it doesn't do it I still have 12.04 on disk upstairs
[00:10] <MoPac> jKlaus: I have a computer where I got too frustrated yesterday with basically the problem you're describing
[00:10] <boog> you should be able to open them with a text editor like gedit, and see the file location (file tree). I'm not familiar with that player, but I have used m3u files
[00:11] <MoPac> I reinstalled with 13.04 because there were other cleanups I wanted to do, and I've just stuck with the Xorg opensource drivers
[00:11] <jKlaus> MoPac, did you resolve the issue?
[00:11] <MoPac> jKlaus: In the past, I've always been able to resolve it one way or another with enough work, but yesterday I sort of had an "F*** you, not this again" moment, realized I wanted to redo my partitions anyway, and so reinstalled
[00:11] <riffandblues> Hi there !!!
[00:12] <juls> how i can use paste.ubuntu.com for paste de command result?
[00:13] <pfifo> I am still looking for a good easy on the eyes monospace font
[00:13] <jKlaus> MoPac.. see to me if you're having this kind of an issue that often.. something wasn't ready for release
[00:13] <MoPac> jKlaus: Yeah, but it's something that also wasn't ready in 12.X versions
[00:14] <juls> qhen i run fdisck -l the result is http://paste.ubuntu.com/5953222/
[00:14] <cuddylier> Anyone know a way to find active ports on a specific IP? E.g. sudo netstat -lpn |grep :25565
[00:14] <jKlaus> Maybe I'm still just thinking in the mindset of a conversation i had with a friend a while ago.. we both feel like there has been a decline in the quality of opensource software over the past couple/few years
[00:15] <jKlaus> MoPac yeah but if you can't make it at least as stable as the prior 'version', even if it is a complete re-write, then just keep it in testing until it is as stable
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> MoPac, Please read the channel topic on language this is a family channel.
[00:15] <TheLordOfTime> is there a way to disable update manager's autoupdating feature and notifying of an "old database" of update information on 12.04?
[00:15] <TheLordOfTime> because I run apt-get update / apt-get upgrade myself in terminal when I want to update
[00:16] <jKlaus> At work I couldn't completely re-write someone's system, add all kinds of new functionality, but make the existing functionality less stable
[00:16] <jKlaus> my ass would be bouncing off the curb.. lol
[00:16] <MoPac> wilee-nilee: I inserted those asterisks myself...
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> TheLordOfTime, I'm not sure ubuntu updates anything with you clicking.
[00:17] <jKlaus> Alright, MoPac.. I'm going to try your fix.. fingers crossed
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> without*
[00:17] <TheLordOfTime> wilee-nilee:  i just want to disable it's notification system
[00:17] <MoPac> TheLordOfTime: In the "software and updates" program, under "updates"
[00:17] <TheLordOfTime> wilee-nilee:  and to stop it from popping up "Update Manager" when there's updates
[00:17] <juls> please help my ipod cant mount automaticly
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> TheLordOfTime, Would be in software sources.
[00:18] <juls> when i run lsusb that its http://paste.ubuntu.com/5953226/
[00:18] <boog> juls, did you look in settings > removeable drives and media
[00:18] <juls> media is empty
[00:18] <MoPac> TheLordOfTime: In the "updates" tab of "software and updates" GUI program, you can set the auto-check to "never".  You can also set it to keep checking but only to notify you as little as every two weeks
[00:19] <TheLordOfTime> MoPac:  wilee-nilee:  found it, i set "Automatic Updates" to "never"
[00:19] <boog> no, hit the menu button then settings, open settings manager, and make sure that auto mount of removeable drives is set
[00:19] <TheLordOfTime> and i'll update myself :)
[00:19] <TheLordOfTime> thanks to you both!
[00:19] <xkernel> how to automatically run filesystem check on boot on encrypted lvm hdd?
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> TheLordOfTime, Cool I figured that was there in 12.04.
[00:20] <lucidium> I'm trying to get X11 to start with the "radeon" driver, but it appears to fail and fall back to VESA in Xorg.0.log with the error "Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section". I don't even have an xorg.conf file. Do I need to make one?
[00:21] <daftykins> boog: it looks like it's just Thunar lacking Nautilus' GVFS usage which auto mounts apple device fs'
[00:21] <boog> ahhh, ok. I just had it in my head that it would be a windows formatted ipod
[00:23] <TheLordOfTime> wilee-nilee:  i had to sneak around and use Synaptic to get to Software Sources because reasons, but it worked... i think
[00:23] <TheLordOfTime> we'll see :P
[00:23] <juls> boog: thanks for the elp but doesnt work
[00:23] <boog> ok, sorry that didn't help juls
[00:23] <juls> dont worry boog thanks
[00:33] <Michael14> Is linux mint MATE most like ubuntu 10.10?
[00:34] <Vivekananda> hey everyone
[00:35] <HogensHero> hello is this the channel for support
[00:35] <Vivekananda> trying to get a printer set up brother ul 2270 dw from ubuntu lts 12.04 host in vbox to win7 guest
[00:36] <HogensHero> I am trying to run multiple services of the same program and its not letting me
[00:36] <Spec-Chum> Michael14: it's more like gnome2 if that's what you mean
[00:37] <FoxyRK9> is there a way to get banshee to put y Music into folders on my walkman device?
[00:37] <Michael14> Spec-Chum: Yes thats what i meant.. Also just 1 more question here, umm on linux mint is the command sudo like it is on ubuntu or different?
[00:37] <FoxyRK9> it syncs just the files alone no folders
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> !mint | Michael14
[00:37] <Vivekananda> I tried downloading drivers as in here and installed
[00:37] <Vivekananda> http://chadchenault.blogspot.com/2012/05/brother-hl-2270dw-printer-driver.html
[00:37] <Vivekananda> what else do I need to do ?
[00:38] <HogensHero> I am trying to run multiple services of the same program and its not letting me. Is there anybody that may be able to point me in the right direction?
[00:38] <Spec-Chum> Michael14: no, it's the same, mint is ubuntu under the hood
[00:38] <Spec-Chum> oh
[00:38] <Spec-Chum> bye then
[00:38] <Spec-Chum> :D
[00:38] <zykotick9> HogensHero: what service?  or is that a secret?
[00:39] <HogensHero> sorry its for a program called big brother bot and it runs on a game server to admin it
[00:40] <FoxyRK9> is there a way to get banshee to put y Music into folders on my walkman device?
[00:40] <FoxyRK9> it syncs just the files alone no folders
[00:40] <Vivekananda> anyone ?
[00:40] <Vivekananda> comment ?
[00:40] <HogensHero> I have put the program into different folders and they are in /etc/init.d under different names
[00:41] <Blue_Fox> Hello all~
[00:42] <HogensHero> zykotick9: any ideas
[00:43] <zykotick9> HogensHero: no clue, never used - or even heard of it... good luck.
[00:43] <HogensHero> ok thanks
[00:46] <Blue_Fox> Hey SDr, I gotta question
[00:46] <Blue_Fox> What's that command to ignore joins/quits?
[00:50] <zykotick9> Blue_Fox: depends on your irc client
[00:50] <Blue_Fox> Ohhh right right right. Do you know what works for irssi?
[00:51] <zykotick9> !quietirssi
[00:52] <Blue_Fox> Awesome, ubottu got it haha
[00:54] <fellayaboy> how do i find out in which /dev/sd* my external drive is in?
[00:56] <fellayaboy> im trying to mount an external hd using only the commandline.. how do i find out if its /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 /dev/sba1 etc
[00:56] <napsc> fellayaboy: tail -f /var/log/syslog as you connect it
[00:56] <shawnb> so my fan temps via xsensors range from 69c to 102c
[00:57] <juls> fellayaboy run fdisk -l
[00:57] <ESphynx> Hey guys... Unity menu... how about locating something useful online, like Ubuntu packages?
[00:58] <fellayaboy> thanks
[00:58] <XyverzAFK> where's the ubuntu-apropriate place to add to my $PATH? Is it still .bashrc?
[00:58] <XyverzAFK> (it's been a while since I've played around with my $PATH)
[00:59] <Blue_Fox> ESphynx: Google? Haha
[01:00] <zykotick9> Xyverz: .bashrc is certainly one option (though i don't even bother adjusting my $PATH these days, instead i just use ~/bin which is there by default)
[01:02] <home> Hi. i have downloaded a couple cute little games but i can't use them as the characters are pulled to the left. anyone else experience this?
[01:03] <Xyverz> zykotick9: Thanks. For the Calibre installation script, it put everything into /opt/ so I wanted to add the path. Also, menulibre is put into /opt as well.
[01:03] <Blue_Fox> home: What games and what do you mean by "Pulled to the left"?
[01:03] <home> i have tried changing the keyboard layout but it didn't help
[01:03] <Xyverz> I did manage to find the pertinent info in the Ubuntu forums. So I"m happy now.
[01:03] <zykotick9> Xyverz: consider links from ~/bin to those executables...
[01:03] <Xyverz> thx
[01:04] <home> Blue_Fox, it would be like the button to make the character move left is always pressed.
[01:05] <home> Blue_Fox, the games so far are: frogatto and titanion
[01:05] <Blue_Fox> home: Ohhh okay, gotcha. I'll get those and see what happens? I'm sure there's a way to calibrate the arrow buttons somehow.
[01:07] <home> Blue_Fox, cool, thanks.
[01:08] <Blue_Fox> calibrate_ppa
[01:08] <Blue_Fox> Oops.
[01:08] <Blue_Fox> Haha ignore that.
[01:10] <shawnb> any other suggestions for high temperatures
[01:11] <Blue_Fox> Try running less processes?
[01:11] <shawnb> atm 3 things are running, chrome, xchat, and xsensors
[01:11] <Plinker_> An air conditioner
[01:12] <Blue_Fox> Do you have a macbook Shawn?
[01:12] <shawnb> no it's a Samsung Series 3
[01:12] <Blue_Fox> Ah.
[01:12] <Blue_Fox> Do you know how fast your fans are going?
[01:12] <Blue_Fox> I'm guessing they should be ~1500-2300 rpm
[01:13] <shawnb> rpm wise, no, but right now sound wise, about 50% constant in Ubuntu, win 7 and 8 give go from 20% up if I'm running a lot of processes
[01:14] <Blue_Fox> Hm. Yeah I don't know haha. Is your CPU too hot or what?
[01:14] <shawnb> my gateway had this issue, when I had my NV53, it was a kernel issue that was resolved in a later version, but powertop helped to alleviate it; I'm going to try Fedora and see what it does
[01:15] <hayer> Ubuntu server 12.04; best way to auto-mount a nfs share?
[01:15] <shawnb> @hayer - in fstab
[01:15] <shawnb> @hayer I take that back is it for a user or globally?
[01:16] <hayer> .. > /etc/fstab - added a line - restarted
[01:16] <hayer> globally
[01:16] <Vivekananda> my router is a belkin router. I logged into it where do I see its model number :( it is windows host but ubuntu guest
[01:17] <hayer> got any other ideas shawnb?
[01:17] <shawnb> how do you have it typed in your fstab?
[01:17] <litropy> Vivekananda, look on the bottom of the router?
[01:17] <shawnb> when you start if you run sudo mount -a does it mount the nfs share or do you still have to manually do it?
[01:17] <hayer> had a line that said; 10.13.37.100:/myshare /mnt/myshare nfs rw,hard,intr 0 0
[01:18] <bing0719> ...
[01:18] <hayer> rebooted the server with "#reboot" - didn't work..
[01:18] <hayer> ah, will check that -- 2sec
[01:18] <shawnb> if its a network location store, you'll need to do that post network initialization
[01:19] <Enyx_> Hi guys, someone to help me ? :D
[01:20] <shawnb> I believe you'l need to create a script in /etc/rc5.d to mount it
[01:20] <Holmgeirr_Domoto> Hello everyone, Holmgeirr_Domotorhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:20] <lazers> s/DDoS/help
[01:21] <hayer> shawnb: how do i add the "-o nolock" to the fstab?
[01:22] <juls> hi everyone
[01:22] <shawnb> under options type in nolock - for example here's how i have mine for my windows partition
[01:22] <juls> i need help for mount my ipod 4 gen in xubuntu 12.04
[01:22] <shawnb> /dev/sda4 <tab> /media/WINDOWS <tab> ntfs <tab> defaults <tab> 0 <tab> 0
[01:23] <shawnb> I'll be back in a few
[01:23] <Enyx_> Hum, someone to help me on an CG problem ? Overheating :x
[01:25] <hayer> okey, okey.. okey.. rebooting taking like 4mins now..
[01:25] <Enyx_> Guys ? xD
[01:25] <Enyx_> NOne to help ? :x
[01:25] <hayer> spewing out error that it can't mount since the local directory /mnt/myshare doesn't exist -- but it does.
[01:25] <juls> if i can hlep u enyx_
[01:25] <hayer> cg? comical graphic overheating?
[01:26] <Enyx__> Hum
[01:26] <Enyx__> PingTimeout :3
[01:26] <Enyx__> Who said he could help me ? :x
[01:27] <juls> enyx_ if i can help u tell me
[01:27] <hayer> explain, i might be able too.
[01:28] <juls> i need help for to mount mi ipod gen 4 in xubuntu 12.04
[01:28] <juls> someone?
[01:28] <hayer> juls: google it, got like 5mill hits
[01:29] <Vivekananda> litropy: old one got erased kind of
[01:29] <Vivekananda> but no worries I got it
[01:29] <Enyx__> So, my laptop graphic card (Dell L702x / GT 555M) is overheating each time i try to use an app through Bumblee (optirun), it seems the fans are running very slowly :/
[01:29] <Vivekananda> does anyone have a belkin router her ?
[01:29] <Vivekananda> here ?
[01:29] <litropy> k
[01:30] <juls> hayer i google it and i prube everyone
[01:30] <juls> but thanks hayer
[01:30] <Enyx__> lm-sensors only shows the CPU speed and .... that's all
[01:30] <gr33n7007h> juls       apt-get install ifuse             then reboot
[01:30] <juls> if i come for help is because i cant doit more,
[01:31] <juls> yes but with ifuse mount de ipod in /
[01:31] <Vivekananda> I want to know how to fix the internal ip of my computer
[01:31] <Vivekananda> I remember that some routers had that option but dont know where belkin has it
[01:32] <javier_> I'm still with the problem. I once installed wicd together with network manager. I have problem  with both of them and want to remove wicd. After sudo apt-get remove wicd it still kept wicd-daemon, wicd-gtk and python-wicd. Wicd is found on the list of installed programs, and I the problem persist. The process of wicd is active under the root user. Any idea how to get rid completely of wicd? Removind wicd-daemon will brake my connection, and wouldn't work e
[01:32] <javier_> ven the wired connection
[01:32] <juls> with ifuse mounts it but does not open folders
[01:32] <juls> thanks gr33n7007h
[01:32] <gr33n7007h> juls what file manager you using
[01:32] <home> Blue_Fox, any luck with those games?
[01:33] <Enyx__> Vivekananda If you meansetting it up ... 192.168.1.1 ?
[01:33] <juls> xubuntu wiht thunar
[01:34] <gr33n7007h> juls does it open using nautilus
[01:34] <juls> i road that with nautilis but its heavy and run progrms of genome
[01:34] <Vivekananda> Enyx__: I am already looking at the setting up menu. I remember that for some routers there was a sction where I ccould say , reserve this internal ip for this computer but I dont see it in belkin. Am I missing something ?
[01:35] <juls> installing programs genome
[01:35] <juls> i installed nautilus but its heavy
[01:35] <juls> i need xubuntu because is lite
[01:36] <Enyx> Viva it should be in the "DNS" section, do you have any ?
[01:36] <gr33n7007h> juls, don't know then sorry
[01:37] <juls> dont worry acknowledges the intention and thanks
[01:37] <Enyx> Anyone that can help with my overheating problem ? :x
[01:37] <ESphynx> Hmm, so after a Saucy LiveCD installed... I hit the grub commandline menu right away :S
[01:38] <Vivekananda> Enyx: the only thing I see is that I can disable the dhcp server and assin
[01:38] <gr33n7007h> Vivekananda, It should be under lan => dhcp client list
[01:38] <Vivekananda> ips to all comps manually
[01:38] <Enyx> Vivekananda wich router are you using ?
[01:39] <Vivekananda> gr33n7007h: yes there is a lan-> dhcp client list but there is no "change" anything option there
[01:39] <Vivekananda> my router is belkin -f 5d7231-4
[01:39] <Vivekananda> *f
[01:39] <gr33n7007h> Vivekananda, the should be a tab with reserve ip database
[01:40] <zao2k13> I am running a 32 bit install of 12.04 and am having a display/gpu issue
[01:40] <zao2k13> in displays, it shows my compaq 7550 crt capable of 1600x1200, as a laptop display only capable of 1024x768. that is the first part of the issue i'm having.
[01:41] <zao2k13> The second part, is the gpu which is a nvidia quadro fx 5500 agp card. i have followed numerous guides on the web and to no avail?
[01:42] <zao2k13> Nvidia-current and nvidia-settings are both present and updated to 304?
[01:42] <bnijk> which ubuntu flavor has 3.9 kernel?
[01:43] <Vivekananda> okay let me see -- lan setup -- lan settings and DHCP client list , -- Internet Wan -> connection type + dns + mac address , Wireless - channel and ssid + seciriyt _use as access point+ wireless bridge,  Firewall --> virtual servers client ip filters + Mac address filtering + DMZ+ Wan ping blocking + securityLog , Utilites -->
[01:43] <juls> goodbye gays
[01:43] <Vivekananda> this is what I ahve
[01:44] <zao2k13> Anyone?
[01:44] <gr33n7007h> Vivekananda, lan settings and DHCP client list got to that page te scroll down to reserved IP database enter the ip you want with MAC addr of your NIC
[01:45] <bnijk> im about to suicide from nvidia zao2k13
[01:45] <zao2k13> as am i.
[01:45] <zao2k13> i remember when the drivers for this card worked so smoothly
[01:45] <bnijk> i installed two versions of arch..siwtched to ubuntu
[01:45] <bnijk> realized my card has optimus on my brand new laptop i just bought for opengl development
[01:45] <zao2k13> well the installing of the gpu drivers and settings
[01:45] <Enyx> nvidia problem here too x)
[01:45] <zao2k13> were easy :\
[01:45] <bnijk> which is STILL not supported 3 years later
[01:46] <bnijk> now i'm constantly rebooting ubuntu trying to get bumblebee to work
[01:46] <zao2k13> i should not be having this problem though as there are fixes I'm finding through searching and have tried this http://askubuntu.com/questions/153915/how-to-install-drivers-for-nvidia-geforce-fx-5200-on-precise
[01:46] <zao2k13> to no avail even...
[01:47] <bnijk> is there a package for kernel 3.9
[01:47] <zao2k13> thinking about just going to a stock 13.04 system and not caring about gpu acceleration at all, just for giggles, maybe xfce as the window manager? hahaha
[01:47] <bnijk> use fluxbox or xmonad maybe
[01:47] <bnijk> nouveau works nicely if i forget about games, which was the whole point of buying the laptop
[01:48] <zao2k13> xmonad?
[01:49] <ESphynx> any idea why grub doesn't see my partitions?
[01:50] <Vivekananda> Enyx: gr33n7007h I dont have it --- imagebin.org/266654
[01:50] <icelite> Vivekananda, reply :P
[01:50] <qin> ESphynx: it is not bootable one?
[01:51] <broadcomsux> can some 1 explain the offline install instructions for the b43-lpphy to me?   they are far too vague and i don't understand what they are really asking me to do. i have installed b43-fwcutter and downloaded broadcom-wl-5.10.56.27.3_mipsel.tar.bz2
[01:51] <broadcomsux> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[01:52] <ESphynx> qin: Well this is a fresh install, it should be bootable...
[01:52] <gr33n7007h> Vivekananda, can you imagebin the lan settings plz
[01:52] <litropy> broadcomsux, hook it up via ethernet and install online?
[01:53] <broadcomsux> slkygs9pynv4wb4tg
[01:53] <Vivekananda> gr33n7007h: coming up
[01:53] <broadcomsux> OH MY GAWD!! if i could do that I WOULD
[01:54] <ESphynx> well the EFI partition is the 'bootable' one
[01:54] <qin> ESphynx: did you got to prompt? Is it dual boot? Have you managed to boot system after instalation? Did you check with live CD/USB if boot flag is no right partition?
[01:54] <ESphynx> yes I get the prompt
[01:54] <ESphynx> boot flag is on partition 1 , the EFI one
[01:54] <ESphynx> I'm in the live CD right now
[01:55] <ESphynx> I see the installed partition... I did not manage to boot Ubuntu after installation yet (only live CD)
[01:55] <ESphynx> luckily my Windows still boots from a BIOS boot partition boot override
[01:55] <Vivekananda> gr33n7007h: imagebin.org/266655
[01:55] <ESphynx> I made root an xfs partition
[01:57] <DWSR> I'm trying to use sshfs to mount a folder that is writable by all other users on the system. I want to make sure that this happens on boot and with pubkey authentication. I have a keyless private key set up, but how do I make sure that the mount happens?
[01:57] <broadcomsux> does anyone know how to install a b43 wireless card *without* internet access?
[01:57] <gr33n7007h> Vivekananda, 1 sec
[01:57] <gr33n7007h> let me check something
[01:58] <Vivekananda> k
[01:59] <qin> ESphynx: EFI, xfs... really dont know where to start.
[01:59] <ESphynx> yea hmm... why should this be a problem in this day and age :P
[02:00] <ESphynx> That should be like the 'standard' system
[02:01] <qin> ESphynx: probably is, it is me. most advanced software is have is CS1.6 and matching hardware ;)
[02:01] <DWSR> Anyone in here that can help me troubleshoot through some missing dependencies?
[02:01] <DWSR> I'm trying to use sshfs to mount a folder that is writable by all other users on the system. I want to make sure that this happens on boot and with pubkey authentication. I have a keyless private key set up, but how do I make sure that the mount happens?
[02:01] <ESphynx> hmm :P
[02:01] <ESphynx> seriously though, XFS is awesome.
[02:01] <ESphynx> why is ext4 still the default everywhere :P
[02:02] <broadcomsux> why is ext2 broken?
[02:02] <Vivekananda> another funny thing happenned. my useraccount name was set to ubuntu and default password
[02:02] <Vivekananda> I changed the username via a gui and also the default password
[02:02] <Vivekananda> but trying to log into cups still takes the default NAME but the NEW pass
[02:04] <ESphynx> error: unknown filesystem... what the....
[02:04] <hayer> if i run a "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080" will that be permanent or do I have to put it in the iptables.rules file?
[02:05] <qin> DWSR: cron? (@reboot)
[02:05] <qin> !upstart | DWSR or
[02:06] <gr33n7007h> Vivekananda, according to belkin pre F5D8235-4 doesn't have the ability to reserve addresses
[02:06] <gr33n7007h> hayer, bit of mitm lol
[02:06] <Vivekananda> stupid piece of crap
[02:07] <DWSR> qin: Can I specify a private key file to use with sshfs?
[02:07] <hayer> gr33n7007h: no, letting non-priv applications access port <1024
[02:07] <gr33n7007h> hayer, ;)
[02:08] <hayer> but still doesnt answer my question
[02:08] <crosbymichael> can you publish an older version of a pkg on the PPA?
[02:10] <qin> DWSR: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/61567/sshfs-specify-key
[02:13] <nakp> hello, is there any way to prevent pulse to restore default volumes after each stream stops? or any option to set them by default?
[02:14] <nakp> I tried alsactl store but I cant use restore each time music stops for a while and my ears will bleed if it keeps setting headphones to 100
[02:15] <pvl1> nakp: alsamixer?
[02:15] <nakp> i tried with alsamixer, I think its pulseaudio the one which restores the volumes
[02:16] <nakp> going to alsamixer I can change the volume of each channel, but after a while, if I pause music, when I resume it the headphones are set to 100 again
[02:16] <ESphynx> Wll Ubuntu recognize "/boot" and put grub and the kernel there?
[02:17] <jKlaus> MoPac.. bad news :(
[02:17] <pvl1> nakp: have u dug into pavucontrol
[02:17] <jKlaus> I've spent a couple hours toying with it.. going back to 12.04
[02:18] <nakp> pvl1, yup, I have, even if I change the volume there, it sets my headphones in alsa to 100% I want them to stay at 15~20%
[02:19] <nakp> I can't even slightly change the volume using anything else but alsamixer
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> ESphynx, /boot meaning a boot partition, and why are you making one if so?
[02:21] <Vivekananda> gr33n7007h: I have that router and I just got another one from netgear called wgr614v6
[02:21] <Vivekananda> is it worse than the belkin one ?
[02:21] <Vivekananda> how do I find that out ?
[02:23] <pvl1> nakp: idk if itd really do anything, but just to be sure, id purge and reinstall pulse and alsa
[02:23] <pvl1> incase some program has changed settings
[02:23] <pvl1> nakp: but what are you using to play your audio
[02:23] <ESphynx> wilee-nilee: Yes /boot meaning a boot partition... because grub stupidly doesn't recognize the xfs partition with it
[02:24] <gr33n7007h> Vivekananda, That model of netgear router supports address reservation
[02:24] <Vivekananda> also another issue. am using ubuntu 12.04 vdi on vbox. the default login was ubuntu and i changed both the name and pass. now when I log into cups it takes in the original name "ubuntu" but the new pass . What is this mess
[02:24] <Vivekananda> gr33n7007h: but it says it is only 54mbs whearas the belkin is
[02:24] <Vivekananda> 1.2 ghz
[02:24] <Vivekananda> how do I compare them
[02:24] <nakp> pvl1, ill give it a try i think... just in case
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> ESphynx, Not sure never heard of a xfs partition.
[02:25] <kennypu> quick question, i'm trying to setup cron, and the output of crontab -l shows the whole file output (everything you see when you do crontab -e) is that normal?
[02:25] <ESphynx> wilee-nilee: that is sad... XFS is by far the best file system on the planet.
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> ESphynx, really I am sure I cam come up with handfuls of things you never heard of and say the same, have some adult interaction bro.
[02:27] <Vivekananda> anyone
[02:27] <pvl1> ESphynx: yes ubuntu can read many filesystems. evidently grub has some difficulty with xfs. but grub is not ubuntu
[02:27] <ESphynx> wilee-nilee: I did not mean that with any negative feelings
[02:28] <pvl1> Vivekananda: look for the mbps on each router
[02:29] <jetsaredim1> anyone here familiar with encrypted filesystems?
[02:29] <ESphynx> wilee-nilee: more precisely, it is sad that XFS doesn't get more recognition/use
[02:30] <cincinnatus> Is it possible to unmount a "hanging" sshfs filesystem that says device is busy (because the vpn connection dropped)?
[02:30] <pvl1> cincinnatus: sudo umount
[02:30] <jetsaredim1> is there a way to manually remove a luks device handle for a device that has gone offline?
[02:30] <cincinnatus> pvl1: been there, tried that, device is busy
[02:30] <pvl1> cincinnatus: whats using it
[02:31] <cincinnatus> pvl1: no idea, perhaps the file manager.
[02:31] <cincinnatus> lsof will hang also
[02:32] <pvl1> cincinnatus: http://ocaoimh.ie/2008/02/13/how-to-umount-when-the-device-is-busy/
[02:34] <Sorath> Crazy question... Does anyone know about making your own streaming service? Like Justin.tv or Livestream.com?
[02:34] <jetsaredim1> anyone have thoughts on how to clean up an improperly unmounted luks/encrypted fs
[02:35] <cincinnatus> pvl1: thanks
[02:36] <pvl1> cincinnatus: no prob
[02:37] <nakp> pvl1, nope, same error :/
[02:37] <nakp> i deleted everything
[02:38] <pvl1> but did you close all the terminals
[02:38] <pvl1> something is trying to access that drive
[02:38] <pvl1> did u killall sshfs
[02:38] <devinceble> exit
[02:45] <pvl1> test
[02:46] <Vivekananda> hey everyone I am trying to follow this link to change username -- http://www.ubuntututorials.com/change-username-ubuntu-12-04/
[02:46] <Vivekananda> the second line is giving me an error
[02:46] <Vivekananda> says gt not required . did I have to put >> or << in there ?
[02:48] <jrib> Vivekananda: wow.  That tutorial does some crazy things.
[02:48] <Vivekananda> jrib: I just saw it and trying to do it
[02:48] <jrib> Vivekananda: I would advise you not follow it.
[02:48] <Vivekananda> jrib: crazy good or crazy bad
[02:48] <jrib> Vivekananda: bad
[02:48] <Vivekananda> okay then I have the same problem
[02:48] <Vivekananda> what should I do
[02:48] <jrib> Vivekananda: what problem?
[02:49] <Vivekananda> I have a funny situation
[02:50] <jrib> Vivekananda: hurry, it's almost my bed time ;)
[02:50] <Vivekananda> a couple of problems actually but each in turn . first my situation . I have a vdi (vbox) of ubuntu 12.04 in win 7. Now I changed both the deafault username and pass but now for some reason the username is still ubuntu but the pass is the new one ( as the guy says in the tuto)
[02:50] <jrib> Vivekananda: why don't you just make a new account?
[02:51] <Vivekananda> I tried to log into cups and it took the usernmae " ubuntu" and pass as the new one
[02:51] <Vivekananda> no
[02:51] <Vivekananda> I just went into the gui
[02:51] <jrib> Vivekananda: define "the gui"
[02:51] <Vivekananda> and changed the defualt username and pass for the vid
[02:51] <Vivekananda> in the user accounts gui
[02:51] <jrib> Vivekananda: I don't understand what you want to do.
[02:52] <Vivekananda> okay again . in the user accounts gui the default username and pass were , ubuntu and reverse, I changed both in there
[02:52] <jrib> Vivekananda: why don't you just make a new account?
[02:52] <Vivekananda> but when I open a terminal I see a ubuntu@....
[02:52] <Vivekananda> not the new name basant@
[02:52] <jrib> Vivekananda: stop.  Why does making a new account not accomplish what you are trying to do?
[02:53] <Vivekananda> jrib: lol you are not answering my question but giving me another question :)
[02:53] <jrib> Vivekananda: I have yet to see a question
[02:53] <Vivekananda> coz I dont want my computer to be named ubuntu
[02:53] <jrib> Vivekananda: so you want to change the hostname of your computer?
[02:53] <Vivekananda> my question. How do I chage the hostname yes
[02:53] <Vivekananda> to basant and not the default ubuntu
[02:53] <jrib> !hostname | Vivekananda
[02:53] <Vivekananda> also how is it that the password changed but the hostname remained the same
[02:54] <jrib> Vivekananda: the password is one thing and the hostname is another, different, thing
[02:54] <Vivekananda> I changed the hostname to basant and its password to xyz.
[02:54] <jrib> Vivekananda: hostnames don't have passwords; you aren't making sense.
[02:55] <Vivekananda> now the funny thing is that although I seethe hostname ( in user accounts) as "basant" yet the one on terminal is stillubuntu but it now accepts the new password
[02:55] <jrib> Vivekananda: I doubt you see the hostname in user accounts.  If you want to change your computer's hostname, follow the steps ubottu outlined
[02:55] <Vivekananda> jrib my use case is this
[02:57] <Hexagonite> Anyone know an alternative to Unetbootin? Startup Disk Creator doesn't quite work.
[02:57] <Vivekananda> I looked online and found the default username password . I then opened "User Accounts" and there I saw that the Administrator username is "ubuntu" and the password is " reverse" . I clicked on "ubunt" and it allowed me to retype a new one so I typed basant
[02:57] <Vivekananda> and then I changed the pass
[02:57] <Vivekananda> with me ?
[02:57] <jrib> Vivekananda: no.  You asked how to change hostname and I told you how.  If you need to know something else, just ask your question (in one line).
[02:58] <Vivekananda> now I expect that everywhere the name "ubuntu" was used ( as admin) I should see basant but I dont
[02:58] <jrib> Vivekananda: did you change your hostname yet (following the steps ubottu gave you)...?
[02:59] <jrib> Vivekananda: it's time for me to sleep now; good night
[03:03] <Vivekananda> jrib:
[03:03] <Vivekananda> I changed the host name in the /etc/hosts
[03:03] <Vivekananda> but still see ubuntu@ on the terminal
[03:04] <jellow> I'm trying to download all irc logs from wget -mk http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ , Does not seem to be following links in /index.html  , is this correct?
[03:05] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5953609/
[03:05] <fishcooker> im doing apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:05] <holstein> fishcooker: would you like a volunteer to view that pastebin?
[03:07] <dlaflamme> does anyone have experience running ubuntu on a chromebook. i'm interested in any experiences, especially with respect to performance and battery life.
[03:07] <jellow> fishcooker: its a bug have you looked at launchpad ?
[03:07] <holstein> dlaflamme: should be like any hardware.. try it live.. try and make the hardware work
[03:08] <dlaflamme> holstein: well, i haven't bought one yet
[03:08] <holstein> dlaflamme: if you are asking "should i buy a chromebook to run ubuntu on?".. that would be opinion...but, if ubuntu support is the intention,i would suggest soemthing like system76 that ships with it
[03:08] <fishcooker> how to jellow
[03:09] <jellow> fishcooker: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-defaults/+bug/990740
[03:09] <dlaflamme> holstein: yeah, i was more looking for "when i installed ubuntu my battery life decreased by x" or something similar. the ultrapro from system76 looks great... totally different price bracket, though.
[03:11] <Vivekananda> hey everyone
[03:11] <Vivekananda> I tried changing hostname in /hosts and /hostname but still I see ubuntu@ubuntu-VirtualBox  in the terminal
[03:12] <holstein> dlaflamme: the hardware support will likely not be as good as what is intended to run on the device.. if you buy a system76 machine, the batter life will be the same in linux, for example
[03:13] <holstein> dlaflamme: i searched "ubuntu chromebook" back when they first came out and found info
[03:13] <dlaflamme> holstein: yeah, i'll have to do some research to see how good the system76 install makes use of the new haswell chipset
[03:14] <holstein> dlaflamme: i dont think the chromebook has a haswell chipset
[03:16] <fishcooker> thank jellow
[03:16] <dlaflamme> holstein: right, it doesn't. i was referring to the system76 ultrapro there
[03:16] <fishcooker> thank for pointing me out to launchpad.. really informatie
[03:16] <fishcooker> v
[03:22] <Almoullim> hi
[03:32] <almoulli1> Hello
[03:32] <uuerik> hi all
[03:33] <Fishscene> o/
[03:40] <Vivekananda> anyone here ?
[03:40] <holstein> Vivekananda: yes.. just ask if you have a question
[03:40] <Vivekananda> ahaa holstein good to see you
[03:40] <Vivekananda> I have a couple actually
[03:40] <Vivekananda> first is a couple of problems actually but each in turn . first my situation . I have a vdi (vbox) of ubuntu 12.04 in win 7. Now I changed both the deafault username and pass but now for some reason the username is still ubuntu but the pass is the new one ( as the guy says in the tuto)
[03:41] <holstein> what tuto?
[03:41] <Vivekananda> I also tried changing the hostname in /etc/hosts and hostname
[03:41] <holstein> i wouldnt change the name
[03:41] <holstein> i would make a new user
[03:41] <holstein> the hostname? or username?
[03:41] <holstein> i have changed the hostname, no problem
[03:42] <Vivekananda> http://www.ubuntututorials.com/change-username-ubuntu-12-04/  . jrib told me I should rather follow ubottu and this tut was bad
[03:42] <Vivekananda> so then I tried ubottu and did
[03:42] <nullsign> you made my brain hurt.
[03:42] <holstein> Vivekananda: ubottu ? ubottu is a bot
[03:42] <Vivekananda> yes
[03:42] <nullsign> useradd [username]
[03:42] <nullsign> password [username]
[03:42] <Vivekananda> jrib asked it ( :) ) to tell me how to do it
[03:42] <dr_willis> easier to just make a new user
[03:42] <nullsign> end of story
[03:43] <holstein> yup.. i agree with the new user, instead of the change
[03:43] <nullsign> apt-get install porn
[03:43] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: I downloaded a vdi ubunut for virtual box and its default was ubuntu and pass was reverse. then I went into user accounts and saw that I could change the pass and also the username so I did
[03:44] <Vivekananda> but now when I go to user accounts I see my new username and pass but my terminal still shows -- ubuntu@ubuntu-VirtualBox /
[03:44] <dr_willis> you did login as the new user?
[03:45] <dr_willis> and perhaps rebooted to be sure
[03:45] <holstein> Vivekananda: OH.. this si a pre-built image?
[03:45] <holstein> Vivekananda: just do an install of your own
[03:46] <Vivekananda> holstein: :( I like it the way it is set up
[03:46] <Vivekananda> and is working fine albeit the stupid username
[03:46] <Vivekananda> also I downloaded from vbox official site
[03:46] <Vivekananda> so cannot I use it ?
[03:46] <Vivekananda> and simply change the username
[03:46] <dr_willis> just make a new user  -  or dont owrry about the username
[03:46] <Vivekananda> I already changed it
[03:46] <holstein> Vivekananda: make a new user with a "less stupid" name
[03:47] <dr_willis> sudo adduser billgates
[03:47] <Vivekananda> holstein: already did
[03:47] <dr_willis> ;^)
[03:47] <Vivekananda> should I then delete this one ?
[03:47] <holstein> Vivekananda: there are no official ubuntu VM's, so i would ask whoever maintains the image you have for help
[03:47] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: BADDD
[03:47] <Vivekananda> really ?
[03:47] <dr_willis> i do NOT suggest deleteing the other users
[03:47] <holstein> Vivekananda: you can delete the user, if you want
[03:47] <holstein> i would leave it in place as well
[03:47] <Vivekananda> what are these then http://virtualboxes.org/images/ubuntu/ ?
[03:47] <holstein> but, i would get the official ubuntu version, and make my own.. an install takes about 8 minutes
[03:48] <holstein> Vivekananda: from virtualbox
[03:48] <dr_willis> those are not official by ubuntu
[03:48] <Vivekananda> yes so is it different from the oracle one ?
[03:48] <Vivekananda> holstein: I can reinstall sure but can I not just change usernames?
[03:48] <holstein> Vivekananda: if you are saying "i installed ubuntu and im having issues with it", all im saying is, thats not officially ubuntu
[03:48] <Vivekananda> I mean how difficult can it be ?
[03:49] <holstein> Vivekananda: you can do what you want, but i have no idea whats up with that VM
[03:49] <holstein> Vivekananda: we done maintain it
[03:49] <dr_willis> its possible that vm did somthing weird, or has some other weird settings that are breaking the normal way to change a users name
[03:49] <holstein> Vivekananda: you *should* be able to add a user.. if you cant, or are having issues, i dont know how to troubleshoot it, since i dont know anything about where it comes from
[03:49] <dr_willis> i have to wonder whats so differnt about that vm that you perfer it to the default ubuntu
[03:50] <Vivekananda> holstein: okay I got that part . I am just saying that shouldn't changing /etc/hosts and /hostname resolve this isse :)
[03:50] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  changeing hosts and hostname do NOT change tthe users name.. it changes the machines name
[03:50] <holstein> Vivekananda: all i can say is, if that not doing it, we have no way of knowing what has been done to the system
[03:50] <dr_willis> so theres some confusion going on here.
[03:50] <dr_willis> !hostname
[03:51] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: nothing . I just found a ready working copy so used it. coz if I install the default then the steps are  1. install  2. get updates 3. install the after-install help things ( which I will have to look up ) and then start
[03:51] <Vivekananda> so takes a long time
[03:51] <Vivekananda> but if you say so I will get right down to installing it default
[03:51] <dr_willis> i would be suprised if that vm had all the updates
[03:51] <Vivekananda> sorry I mean I will go ahead and download
[03:52] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: if you think that self install is better then I will go ahead. btw isnt that vm from oracle ? or am I confused with the name virtualbox ?
[03:53] <Vivekananda> I will begin by downloading ubuntu lts and starting a fresh install
[03:54] <Vivekananda> holstein: did you mean to say that the http://virtualboxes.org/images/ubuntu/ site is not from oracle ?
[03:55] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  i doubt if its officially by oracle.
[03:55] <dr_willis> theres various vm appliance sites out with images.  they could have any sort of weirdness in them
[03:55] <dr_willis> if it WAS offically by oracle - i definatly wouldent trust it.. I dont trust that company. ;)
[03:56] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: okay so fresh start for me then. tell me sth I have a 64 bit system. Should I install a 32 bit os on the vbox in it ?
[03:56] <Vivekananda> for lesser pains
[03:56] <Vivekananda> or lesser printer config issues ?
[03:56] <dr_willis> for vbox i tend to use 32bit.  not much reason to go 32bit
[03:56] <Vivekananda> especially printer config
[03:56] <dr_willis> ive never had printer issues in 64bit ;)
[03:56] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: so what do you suggest
[03:56] <Vivekananda> 32 or 64
[03:57] <Vivekananda> I also did not get your line ----for vbox i tend to use 32bit.  not much reason to go 32bit
[03:57] <dr_willis> for vbox i tend to use 32bit.  not much reason to go 64 bit    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
[03:57] <Vivekananda> yes got it
[03:57] <Vivekananda> now
[03:57] <dr_willis> i basically only use 64bit on my real machines.
[03:57] <Vivekananda> okay so will go 32 then
[03:57] <dr_willis> i cant even recall the last issue i had that was due to 64bit-ness
[03:57] <Vivekananda> my system has 64 bit windows
[03:57] <Vivekananda> win 7
[03:58] <Vivekananda> but then you are a doctor :)
[03:58] <dr_willis> ive had more issues with windows 64bitness then i have in linux.
[03:58] <Vivekananda> I might be a measely patient
[03:58] <dr_willis> and even then - i cant recall many issues in windows 64bit.
[03:58] <Vivekananda> lol
[03:58] <Vivekananda> okay then final word
[03:58] <Vivekananda> what do I download ? what iso ?
[03:58] <snizzo> how can I install opensource radeon driver from source?
[03:58] <dr_willis> for in virtual box - i tend to run Lubuntu its lighter
[03:59] <Vivekananda> yes I can do that
[03:59] <dr_willis> snizzo:  why do you need to?
[03:59] <Vivekananda> but Lubuntu is not lts
[03:59] <Vivekananda> and I want an lts for this vbox
[03:59] <dr_willis> why do you want an lts?
[03:59] <Vivekananda> ie no help for next 5 yrs
[03:59] <Vivekananda> coz I wont be here to supervise problems in this
[03:59] <dr_willis> i doubt if you are going to be using that same install for 5 yers.. and you can upgrade to the next release
[03:59] <Vivekananda> it is to be given to my uncle who is not comp literate
[04:00] <snizzo> dr_willis: I'd like to try one cutting edge feature that isn't on packets now :)
[04:00] <dr_willis> lts does not guarentee no problems. ;)
[04:00] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: I am not trying to debate correctness but lts simply gives me more time so I choose that always
[04:00] <dr_willis> lts is about security updates more then anhyything else.  so lubuntu or ubuntu, wont matter much
[04:00] <Vivekananda> 5 yrs is good !
[04:00] <dr_willis> 5 yearts is ancient history ;)
[04:00] <snizzo> I already compiled mesa just I don't know how to install... i did make install but I think I have now 2 versions of radeon
[04:00] <Vivekananda> okay but lubuntu will loose support in 1 yr
[04:00] <Vivekananda> it is fine
[04:00] <Vivekananda> I can use ubuntu
[04:01] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  not really.. its the SECURITY updates that aere the critical part of LTS.
[04:01] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: the reason for installing this ubuntu is I want to run a server on it
[04:01] <Vivekananda> and also to print stuff from it
[04:01] <dr_willis> a server - it wont really matter what desktop  you use.. and you can install lubuntu and ubuntu both if you want. Or no desktop at all
[04:01] <Vivekananda> I did not want to go headless so I chose ubuntu
[04:02] <Vivekananda> yes so I will go with ubuntu and later perhaps get l
[04:02] <dr_willis> you are making a vbox print server?
[04:02] <Vivekananda> no I am setting up a localhost flask server
[04:02] <dr_willis> cant say ive evver used flash.
[04:02] <dr_willis> flask
[04:02] <dr_willis> ;P >hic<
[04:02] <Vivekananda> for some inhouse invoicing and pos system
[04:02] <Vivekananda> yes np
[04:02] <Vivekananda> that is for later
[04:03] <Vivekananda> right now it is install and connect printer
[04:03] <Vivekananda> let me get started
[04:04] <The_Reaver> This is kind of random, but does anyone know of a channel where I could get help with maven/webstart integration?
[04:04] <dr_willis> nice thing about setting up a VM. You can back it up. then try things (like a release upgrade) then restore it easially if it dosent work
[04:04] <Vivekananda> The_Reaver: did you try maven channel ?
[04:04] <Vivekananda> or #web ?
[04:05] <The_Reaver> #maven was dead, I'll try the other one
[04:05] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: say no more :)
[04:05] <The_Reaver> Thanks!
[04:05] <Vivekananda> np
[04:25] <elpelado> hi everyone!
[04:26] <imsky> hello elpelado
[04:27] <imsky> how did ubuntu screw up this time
[04:27] <unsecur3d> ?
[04:27] <elpelado> hi imsky
[04:32] <elpelado> i need some opinion about firefox, someone can give me?
[04:32] <imsky> fierfox is pretty firey
[04:32] <unsecur3d> what kind of opinion u need
[04:32] <holstein> elpelado: not really.. its a browser.. its free to try and use.. try it for your self
[04:32] <unsecur3d> are we allowed to chat in spanish here ?
[04:32] <elpelado> tnks imsky
[04:32] <holstein> its well supported
[04:33] <imsky> yw elpelado
[04:33] <holstein> !es
[04:33] <unsecur3d> lol
[04:33] <unsecur3d> joining there too :p
[04:33] <elpelado> but im my lapton run so slowly
[04:33] <unsecur3d> elpelado what ubuntu version u running and what model laptop u got
[04:33] <elpelado> sometimes just tack it
[04:34] <holstein> elpelado: the laptop runs slow? or firefox? or flash in the browser?
[04:34] <elpelado> my ubuntu version is 13.04
[04:34] <elpelado> in general... just stack a second and return
[04:35] <imsky> yeah firefox is pretty slow on new ubuntu
[04:35] <imsky> no way to get around it
[04:35] <unsecur3d> it works fine for me
[04:35] <unsecur3d> no slow at all
[04:35] <unsecur3d> but if u need something faster (ur specs are slow) try chrome instead
[04:36] <holstein> if the computer is old/slow, new software and new web browsers likely wont run all that great on it
[04:36] <holstein> elpelado: what are the specs of the machine?
[04:36] <unsecur3d> thats why i asked the model
[04:37] <elpelado> wow! is just what I needed, the simple truth
[04:37] <unsecur3d> should of said ur on an old pc dude
[04:38] <holstein> elpelado: there is an ubuntu based puppy linux (not supported here, of course) that can run well on older hardare, with some compromises
[04:38] <elpelado> maybe my laptop it`s getting old
[04:39] <holstein> elpelado: state the specs, and i can share an opinion as to if i think ubuntu or a derivitive will run on it
[04:39] <elpelado> dual core intel and nvidia w 512 mb
[04:39] <unsecur3d> yea ur slow dude
[04:39] <unsecur3d> im at 4gb ram quad core
[04:39] <unsecur3d> u might want to use xfce with ubuntu and chrome as ur web browser
[04:39] <holstein> elpelado: i would try and add memory, and that should be fine... might want xubuntu or lubuntu
[04:39] <unsecur3d> that would make it run faster
[04:40] <elpelado> ok ok
[04:40] <elpelado> the ubuntu distr. for xfce is xubuntu... ?
[04:41] <holstein> !xubuntu
[04:41] <dr_willis> you can install the xubuntu/xfce on a ubuntu install  ir you wanted and try both out
[04:41] <elpelado> cool!
[04:41] <dr_willis> an lubuntu. - just select what one to use at the login scree
[04:41] <dr_willis> screen
[04:42] <elpelado> you tell me that i can install xubuntu whitouth delete my actualy ubuntu?
[04:42] <holstein> elpelado: dr_willis just did
[04:42] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:42] <holstein> elpelado: and, yes
[04:42] <unsecur3d> thats it
[04:42] <elpelado> like ubottu told me?
[04:43] <dr_willis> its JUST the desktop. the core of the OS is the same for ubuntu/xubuntu/lubuntu/
[04:43] <elpelado> awesome!
[04:43] <dr_willis> its trivial to have 3+ desktops installed
[04:43] <unsecur3d> and most gnome apps will be available in xfce so u gonna love it
[04:43] <holstein> elpelado: xubuntu *is* ubuntu
[04:43] <unsecur3d> make sure u got enough disk space (df -h)
[04:44] <jpmh> on a test system I am trying to start a dhcp server.  I have the .conf file set, I think but when I start sudo dhcpd I get the message:  Can't create PID file /var/run/dhcpd.pid permission denied.  What do I need to set?
[04:44] <elpelado> :))) ok ok im an older user of red hat of 98`
[04:44] <unsecur3d> how come ur not using fedora ?
[04:44] <elpelado> in need to get in time w that
[04:44] <dr_willis> jpmh:  perhaps use the service command to start the service
[04:44] <elpelado> :)))
[04:44] <dr_willis> jpmh:  sudo service servicename start
[04:44] <unsecur3d> jpmh, u using root buddy ?
[04:45] <jpmh> dr_willis - tried that - get: dhcp: unrecognozed service
[04:45] <jpmh> unsecur3d: no - hence the sudo?
[04:45] <dr_willis> that may not be the service name  try the service command to list all services
[04:45] <unsecur3d> jpmh,  yup
[04:45] <dr_willis> jpmh:  you have to start it with sudo rights
[04:45] <unsecur3d> need root to start a system service, sudo
[04:45] <elpelado> holdstein, dr_willis, unsecur3d, ubottu and everyone... just very very tnks!
[04:46] <unsecur3d> elpelado,  no de ke tiguere :)
[04:46] <jpmh> dr_willis: what is the command to find the list
[04:46] <elpelado> i will try it w xubuntu and chromium
[04:46] <elpelado> unsercur3d :)
[04:46] <babinlonston> histo: How to setup a ftp server With more secure every time after setting up and while im accessing in browser its asking username and password but the user name and password not accepting me to login how can i clear it
[04:46] <dr_willis> jpmh:  'service'  might do it.. or chekc service --help
[04:47] <elpelado> tnks again and see you later!
[04:47] <elpelado> bye!
[04:47] <elpelado> :)
[04:47] <dr_willis> babinlonston:  if security is a main concern, dont use ftp, use ssh
[04:47] <unsecur3d> service --status-all
[04:47] <dr_willis> or scp, or sftp
[04:47] <jpmh> dr_willis: I did the sudo dhcpd and received the first error and sudo serice dhcp start for the second
[04:47] <babinlonston> dr_willis: ya im using vsftpd
[04:48] <unsecur3d> vsftpd could be good if security is needed
[04:48] <unsecur3d> set it up with PAM and u should be good, just make sure u dont got weak userid's and i would make sure it runs with a chroot environment
[04:48] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: should I use an ext3 or 4 for partitions ?
[04:48] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  the default these days is ext4
[04:49] <Vivekananda> kk
[04:49] <Vivekananda> and do I allot like 2 gb swap ?
[04:49] <Vivekananda> or is that not required  ?
[04:49] <unsecur3d> 1gb is fine
[04:49] <dr_willis> make a 2 gb swap partion
[04:49] <unsecur3d> thats a lot
[04:49] <babinlonston> unsecur3d: guide me please
[04:49] <Vivekananda> I have 4 gigs ram
[04:49] <Vivekananda> but win 7 as host
[04:50] <unsecur3d> oh then yea do 2gb if ur virtualizing it
[04:51] <unsecur3d> babinlonston, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-vsftpd-on-ubuntu-12-04
[04:51] <Vivekananda> okay installing now
[04:53] <babinlonston> let me check
[04:54] <unsecur3d> that has step by step and it shows u how to enable chroot in the config file and use pam for local authentication for system users
[04:54] <jpmh> for those interested in my dhcpd question: service --list-all gave me a list, and I then discovered that the service to re-start is: isc-dhcp-serve
[04:55] <unsecur3d> nice
[04:55] <unsecur3d> u got it working now ?
[04:55] <jpmh> unsec
[04:56] <jpmh> unsecur3d: not sure - checking now - It did not give an error - now need to see if it is actually giving addresses
[04:56] <unsecur3d> ?
[04:56] <unsecur3d> no error = ur good
[04:56] <unsecur3d> just double check that the service is no running
[04:56] <unsecur3d> ps -ax|grep dhcpcd if im not mystaken
[04:57] <jpmh> unsecur3d: better than that sudo service isc-dhcp-server restart gives a new pid and says it restart and the service is there.
[04:57] <unsecur3d> nice
[04:57] <unsecur3d> u should be good, test it
[04:59] <jpmh> unsecur3d: it is clearly up - it is not actually allocating addresses yet - but that's an easier prpoblem I hop - ty - also thks to Dr_Willis
[05:00] <unsecur3d> np
[05:05] <droop> ive been trying to download magnet files. on transmission, ktorrent, and now deluge. whats the problem?
[05:05] <dr_willis> droop:  i recall them working for me.
[05:06] <dr_willis> theres also the linux utorrent  now ;) but its more of a web interface last i looked.
[05:06] <dr_willis> you might want to check on askubuntu.com about them. see if others have had issues.
[05:07] <droop> thank you. will keep researching and try utorrent
[05:10] <morsonai> guys unity doesnt work, what do
[05:10] <indistylo> Folks, Having problem starting Jboss server, it says Jboss home pointing to different installation , Output can be seen in the URL( http://paste.ubuntu.com/5953884/ ) please suggest some solutions
[05:11] <bh> Hrmph. I was installing security updates and the universe just died: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5953887/  linux-image-generic can't be configured
[05:14] <indistylo> bh, you were not having enough space on your disk so process broke down al together
[05:14] <bh> indistylo: I (should) have a mostly empty 1TB drive
[05:14] <dr_willis> !info linux-image-generic
[05:15] <dr_willis> bh:  someone else was in here the other day with a similer kernel meta package issue.  not sure whats going on with it.. they just removed the  package, since it was a meta package - it dident afffect anything
[05:15] <punkmexic> how can i add a volume icon to taskbar in lubuntu??
[05:16] <dr_willis> punkmexic:  check the panel settings, last i used lubuntu - it had a volume control icon at the bottom right i belive by default.
[05:16] <punkmexic> mine doesnt
[05:16] <punkmexic> only wifi
[05:16] <punkmexic> and ime
[05:16] <punkmexic> time
[05:16] <FloodBot1> punkmexic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:17] <xmetal> well ... i am, close
[05:17] <bh> indistylo: to specifically address your concern, df -h reports 840G free on /
[05:17] <dr_willis> again.. check your panel settings. i think its a right clcik on the panel. to get to them
[05:17] <xmetal> (isos booting via grub)
[05:17] <unsecur3d> is ur audio driver configured ?
[05:17] <xmetal> haven't gotten all the parameters right i guess
[05:17] <xmetal> lol
[05:17] <bh> dr_willis: dang. I can't even aptitude remove it before it dies with the same error
[05:17] <dr_willis> xmetal:  :)  i dident find it that hard.. but every disrto seems to want differnt settings/paranaters to boot their iso files from grub2
[05:17] <DuncanNZ> I've just upgraded my kernel on Linux Mint 15 (based on Ubuntu so meh) from 3.8 to 3.10, hoping to fix a hardware issue where my laptop randomly freezes. Since it only freezes every couple of days I don't know yet if it's fixed, but in the meanwhile it broke the following three things: GRUB menu now just displays "error executing hwlist" but then it boots normally; wifi doesn't work even with propietary broadcom driver selected; two of the three usb ports
[05:17] <DuncanNZ> no longer work. Any advice on these three things would be nice :) thanks
[05:17] <punkmexic> i try to add it
[05:17] <punkmexic> but it doesnt get added
[05:17] <xmetal> true
[05:18] <dr_willis> punkmexic:  you do have sound? does alsa-mixer work?
[05:18] <indistylo> bh: In that case my solution is ruled out.
[05:18] <punkmexic> i dont know dr willis
[05:18] <punkmexic> i installed pavucontrol
[05:18] <Mekaari> open a terminal and enter alsamixer
[05:18] <xmetal> not difficult, though some items need extra parameters and such ... trial and error
[05:18] <xmetal> ;)
[05:18] <dr_willis> punkmexic:  find out  then?
[05:18] <xmetal> its a learning experience
[05:18] <punkmexic> i see alsamixer
[05:18] <punkmexic> what do i do now
[05:18] <Mekaari> magic
[05:18] <dr_willis> play some muzak - see if you hear it.
[05:19] <dr_willis> 'see' if you 'hear' it..  ;)
[05:19] <punkmexic> i hear youtube
[05:19] <punkmexic> but too low
[05:19] <dr_willis> the volume media keys on your keyboard should work to change voulme up/down also
[05:19] <dr_willis> alsamixer should let you adjust volumes also
[05:19] <punkmexic> laptop volume keys dont work
[05:20] <Mekaari> use the arrow keys in alsamixer to adjust the volume
[05:20] <punkmexic> i just see f1 f2 f3 in alsamixer
[05:20] <Mekaari> use the arrow keys.
[05:20] <dr_willis> !sound
[05:20] <punkmexic> arrow keys do nothing
[05:21] <dr_willis> i dont even recall the name of the gui mixer apps..
[05:21] <xmetal> i'd look at the mixer ... the program's volume may be at max, but the "main volume" (not sure if that makes sense) may be set to 0 or 1 (almost mute)
[05:21] <xmetal> (not sure how else to say it)
[05:21] <xmetal> i have had that happen before
[05:21] <punkmexic> i feel desperate
[05:21] <dr_willis> arrow left/right to select differnt 'channels' in alsa mixxer, then up/down to adjust the channels
[05:21] <punkmexic> :(
[05:21] <xmetal> kmix ?
[05:21] <punkmexic> it sucks to dont have good volume
[05:21] <xmetal> or kmixer for KDE i beleive
[05:22] <xmetal> one of the two
[05:22] <punkmexic> what can i install
[05:22] <punkmexic> istead of lxde
[05:22] <punkmexic> xfce
[05:22] <punkmexic> or what
[05:22] <dr_willis> punkmexic:  theres 4+ desktops you can play with
[05:22] <dr_willis> install what you want.
[05:22] <dr_willis> !xfce
[05:22] <dr_willis> !kde
[05:22] <punkmexic> i wannted
[05:23] <xmetal> i (knew about it from folks in here) just installed pulse audio equalizer in mint mate 14
[05:23] <punkmexic> lubuntu because it slight
[05:23] <xmetal> cant get it to work in 15 though
[05:23] <dr_willis> gnome-shell, unity, lets see what else...
[05:23] <punkmexic> but it sucks
[05:23] <punkmexic> to dont have good volume
[05:23] <xmetal> (i do see a few people saying its no longer supported)
[05:23] <xmetal> i know
[05:23] <xmetal> er developed i should say
[05:23] <xmetal> not "supported"
[05:23] <dr_willis> punkmexic:  ANY gui mixer for sound should work on any of the desktops
[05:23] <dr_willis> punkmexic:  fire up the software center and search for sound mixer and install some
[05:24] <dr_willis> or it could be some weird driver bug with your sound card/laptop
[05:24] <dr_willis> !find gnome-mixer
[05:24] <xmetal> brb
[05:25] <xmetal> true  @ any mixer comment
[05:25] <dr_willis> apt-cache search alsa mixer      should show several
[05:25] <xmetal> brb again :P
[05:25] <punkmexic> thanks dr_willis
[05:25] <dr_willis> !info gnome-mixer
[05:26] <jony_easyrider> some of my client somehow removed the Guest session in Ubuntu 12.04 and after that it wont boot in GUI, it shows "Your system is running in low-graphics mode", please help
[05:26] <reisio> jony_easyrider: for virtualbox?
[05:26] <wangzheng> 有人在吗？
[05:27] <wangzheng> 新来的。
[05:27] <jony_easyrider> reisio, no, it's running on a laptop
[05:27] <reisio> wangzheng: #ubuntu-cn
[05:28] <wangzheng> what ?
[05:29] <reisio> wangzheng: higher percentage of chinese speakers in that channel, if you're interested
[05:30] <Vivekananda> got my ubuntu started. dr_willis thanks. Now start the main issues. first. I need to connect my brother printer on the host win 7 to my gues
[05:31] <dr_willis> i got a networked wireless brother printer. ;) best printer ive ever bought
[05:32] <dr_willis> you can set up vbox where it appears on the lan as any other 'real' machine on the lan. and shoul dbe able to get to any network printers same as if it was a real box on the lan.
[05:33] <xmetal> i know someone who just got a brothers and like it ... their canon ink absorber wasn't cleaned/replaced/whatever and ... it looked like a squid (that shoots ink) exploded inside
[05:33] <xmetal> :P
[05:33] <xmetal> ink everywhere
[05:34] <wangzheng> can you speak chinese?  i can
[05:34] <wangzheng> i can,t understand...
[05:34] <dr_willis> theres a chinese channel
[05:34] <dr_willis> !zn
[05:34] <xmetal> ... well i can order chinese ... that count?
[05:34] <xmetal> :)
[05:34] <dr_willis> but i dont know its name ;)
[05:35] <IdleOne> !cn
[05:35] <dr_willis> i always think  cn - canadian ;)
[05:35] <Nimble> ca is canadian
[05:35] <Nimble> lol
[05:35] <wangzheng> think you.
[05:35] <dr_willis> ca = calafornia! ;)
[05:35] <xmetal> lol
[05:35] <Nimble> california is a state
[05:36] <dr_willis> its like a whole differnt world in California
[05:36] <Vivekananda> I am trying to set up my printer using http://askubuntu.com/questions/226307/how-to-install-a-brother-hl2270dw-laser-printer
[05:36] <Nimble> depends on what part of California
[05:36] <Vivekananda> should I choose yes or no for step 5 for url when I am on a guest ubuntu and the host has the printer
[05:36] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  so you are running Windows. with Ubuntu in a vbox. and the printer is connected to the windows box how?
[05:37] <Vivekananda> by cable
[05:37] <dr_willis> so the printer is being shared via  the windows share stuff?
[05:37] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: the problem is ( as I ascertained an hour ago) my router does not allow internal fixed ips so giving a url will be counterproductive
[05:38] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: I have just installed ubuntu and have done no sharing
[05:38] <Vivekananda> am trying to first install the driver here and then proceed to sharing but am at your disposal
[05:38] <dr_willis> windows needs to be shareing the printer if you want other networked machines to access it.
[05:38] <Vivekananda> what should I do ?
[05:38] <Vivekananda> I already enabled lpd and lri or something in windows
[05:38] <dr_willis> every brother printer ive seen  - has had drivers allready in the repos.
[05:39] <Vivekananda> if that is what you are referring to
[05:39] <dr_willis> i just  tell window sto 'share' the printer.. ;)
[05:39] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: nope not this one
[05:39] <Vivekananda> lol okay let me see how to do that
[05:39] <dr_willis> theres a lot of brother printer packages not installed by default.
[05:39] <Vivekananda> but before that
[05:39] <Vivekananda> what do I chose as the url in step 5 in the first answer on http://askubuntu.com/questions/226307/how-to-install-a-brother-hl2270dw-laser-printer
[05:41] <dr_willis> try yes. and enter the ip of the windows box perhaps
[05:41] <dr_willis> as a test
[05:45] <wangzheng> who using ubuntu130.4?
[05:46] <dr_willis> lots of people use 13.04 wangzheng
[05:47] <bh> indistylo: actually, you're right! It was trying to install the image to /boot, which isn't particularly big
[05:48] <xtrez> how can i start ssh service ?
[05:48] <dr_willis> install the ssh service and it should start automatically
[05:48] <dr_willis> or use the 'service' command to start it
[05:48] <ken-the-whiz> hey internet just recently worked in till restart now dhcp doesnt give ip address but eth0 connection recognized
[05:48] <xtrez> dr_willis, installed but my ipad is not detecting the ssh connection
[05:52] <ken-the-whiz> the available networks are auto eth 0 but its not connecting it recently worked in till restart
[05:52] <wangzheng> i find a problem of drives . after intall it. i found it can't enter desktop
[05:52] <coffeebeans> how do i install software package opera.it saved to desktop /
[05:53] <wangzheng> now i'm using 130.4
[05:53] <ken-the-whiz> anyone please help ifconfig eth0 up; dhclient eth0 says no leases found on eth0
[05:54] <holstein> coffeebeans: i would reference https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[05:54] <indistylo> Folks, Eclipse not starting in ubuntu12.04, I installed in /usr/share/eclipse directory and created eclipsed.desktop but its not starting, Kindly suggest solutions
[05:55] <holstein> !eclipse
[05:57] <Fulange> hey all.  Im (still) having a bit of trouble getting my recently installed ubuntu to work properly.  Anyone willing to help?  I cant seem to get ubuntu to recognize i am connected...
[05:58] <holstein> Fulange: connected to what?
[05:58] <holstein> Fulange: lay out some details, and a volunteer will help if they can
[05:59] <Fulange> holstein: connected via ethernet cable to my modem & router.  We have managed to discover that i dont have a network manager (a working one anyway) installed...
[05:59] <holstein> we?
[06:00] <holstein> Fulange: all ubuntu versions ship with a network manager
[06:00] <Fulange> holstein: another volunteer on this chat channel was helping me eariler today
[06:00] <holstein> Fulange: did you uninstall the network manager?
[06:00] <holstein> Fulange: are you sure you installed ubuntu?
[06:00] <Fulange> holstein: okay, i havent uninstalled it, to my knowledge, how can i interact with it?
[06:01] <Fulange> holstein: i dont even have the icon in the top right with the little arrows.  but on my other boot (dual boot windows/ubuntu) the internet works fine
[06:02] <holstein> Fulange: your other boot? you mean on the other machine?
[06:02] <Nimble> when I run netstat, why do I see connections from the root user to webpages I am visiting?
[06:02] <Nimble> is it because port 80 is a restricted port?
[06:03] <holstein> Fulange: could be this simple.. the networking hardware you have is not supported by linux
[06:03] <holstein> Fulange: at least, out of the box
[06:03] <holstein> Fulange: when supported hardware is connected, the manger "just works".. otherwise, you dont need a manager
[06:04] <Fulange> holstein: ooh, good point, i hope not... let me check!  i have 2 nic devices on this PC and neither of them work lol
[06:04] <holstein> Fulange: i suggest looking at the chipsets and doing some general troubleshooting.. if you feel "we" have maybe compromised the installation, try testing with a live CD
[06:05] <Fulange> holstein: general troubleshooting?
[06:06] <holstein> Fulange: yes.. 'lspci' in the terminal.. does the networking device show up? does the networking device function in a supported operating system? is the card installed correctly? enabled in the bios?
[06:07] <holstein> etc...
[06:07] <blazemore> tripelb: fstab describes what will be mounted on boot. If you manually mounted your Windows partition (for example, through the file manager) that doesn't affect fstab, it only lasts until you logout
[06:07] <ikillcypher> how do I escape from VIM
[06:07] <blazemore> ikillcypher: Hit Escape, then type :q
[06:07] <ikillcypher> not working
[06:07] <reisio> vimtutor :)
[06:07] <blazemore> ikillcypher: "not working"
[06:07] <sam113101> then press enter
[06:08] <ikillcypher> Unknown COmmand
[06:08] <Fulange> holstein: its working in the bios, and such (just checked) waiting on boot to finish to see if it works via liveCD
[06:08] <holstein> and such?
[06:08] <blazemore> ikillcypher: ":q" is not an unknown command in vim, you must have typed it incorrectly somehow
[06:08] <blazemore> !vim | ikillcypher
[06:08] <blazemore> Oh that didn't do what I wanted
[06:08] <ikillcypher> how do I exit it
[06:09] <wangzheng> :wq
[06:09] <blazemore> ikillcypher: Hit Escape and then type :q and then hit enter
[06:09] <Fulange> holstein: yea, and such lol
[06:09] <blazemore> ikillcypher: wangzheng :wq will save
[06:09] <wangzheng> save and quit
[06:09] <ikillcypher> cant EXIT !!!
[06:09] <ikillcypher> WTF
[06:09] <sam113101> trype :q!
[06:09] <somsip> ikillcypher: :wq!
[06:09] <blazemore> ikillcypher: Hit escape, type :q and hit enter
[06:09] <sam113101> try*
[06:09] <somsip> ikillcypher: sorry....:q!
[06:09] <wangzheng> :q!
[06:09] <ikillcypher> unknown command
[06:10]  * ikillcypher just ended terminal
[06:10] <ikillcypher> jeez thankss
[06:10] <blazemore> ikillcypher: you need to type two characters, A colon : and then immediately a letter q. then press enter
[06:10] <sinkensabe> ikillcypher: kill the terminal,open a new terminal, open vim and typ :q
[06:10] <wangzheng> press esc .than :q!
[06:10] <sanal_madatheth> I have a 13.04 i386.iso with me. Can I use zsync to convert it to 13.04amd 64?
[06:11] <holstein> sanal_madatheth: you can download the 64bit iso
[06:11] <blazemore> sanal_madatheth: no
[06:11] <xtrez> when i am typing apache then why it is not showing up ?
[06:11] <sanal_madatheth> holstein, blazemore thanks
[06:11] <xtrez> typing apache in ubuntu software center
[06:12] <Fulange> holstein: running from live CD (or in my case a usb thumbdrive) it does the same thing, no internet.  if i go to "edit connections" it doesnt show a "wired connections" tab as the help file says
[06:12] <sanal_madatheth> holstein, no shortcuts to reduce download?
[06:12] <holstein> sanal_madatheth: not that im aware of..
[06:13] <hylian> kde wont let me remove activities, it doesn't give me the "stop  playing" sign, so I cant delete them. Why isn't this always an  option? (I was making activities to see the difference between  them)
[06:13] <holstein> Fulange: confirm the hardware is capable of functioning.. run 'lspci' and see that the hardware is present.. ask here for information about the specific chipset, and search "ubuntu 'the specific chipset'"
[06:14] <holstein> Fulange: keep in mind, it might not be supported
[06:15] <Fulange> holstein: it doesnt show in lspci
[06:17] <holstein> Fulange: then, its not capable of functioning, or installed correctly, or supportable, or needs more config up front
[06:17] <holstein> Fulange: i would start by stating what hardware you have, and go from there..
[06:18] <xtrez> why can't i find apache in ubuntu software center ? but i can find it it synaptic ?
[06:18] <Fulange> holstein: bigfoot networks killer network card...  the website says it supports linux, but i may have to instal something
[06:19] <holstein> xtrez: if you would like to install it, i would.. the software center is a GUI targeted for the desktop.. maybe you need to search "lamp", or "web server".. or maybe its not showed
[06:19] <holstein> Fulange: what website says it supports what linux?
[06:20] <Fulange> holstein: killergaming.com, im still investigating, just a cursory glance
[06:22] <holstein> Fulange: if they support it, ask them for support
[06:22] <holstein> Fulange: if the list specifics, like a specific kernel that you are not using, or have a blob to download, try that
[06:23] <Fulange> holstein: kewl, i will check around.  Hey, thanks for all the help holstein, i appreciate it.
[06:25] <dr_willis> Software center has some  "show other/advanced"   option
[06:28] <yalu> hi, just a really quick question. Is there a quick way to deny normal users the right to shutdown? only someone with admin rights should do it
[06:28] <syn-ack> Take them out of the "adm" and "sudo" groups, yalu
[06:29] <syn-ack> That *should* do it, iirc
[06:30] <dr_willis> Light dm may still be able to do it.
[06:30] <syn-ack> yalu, http://askubuntu.com/questions/93542/how-to-disable-shutdown-reboot-suspend-hibernate
[06:31] <syn-ack> dr_willis, That's actually the part in which I was wondering about
[06:32] <syn-ack> Mollyguard... That's what I was trying to think of...
[06:32] <syn-ack> That's in that article, too
[06:32] <dr_willis> There used to be  options to remove those items from the login screen.  But I've not looked Into them in ages
[06:35] <yalu> thanks
[06:36] <syn-ack> yalu, Molly Guard is the safest and most easily reversible, if you should decide to change that in the future...
[06:36] <syn-ack> yalu, I would recommend that over the other methods listed.
[06:44] <dr_willis> Howdy
[06:44] <reisio> suppah
[06:44] <dr_willis> It got quiet...  Too quiet.
[06:46] <dr_willis> And chat needs a lagmeter like xchat  has.
[06:46] <dr_willis> Andchat
[06:46] <reisio> a little too Raph
[06:46] <reisio> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7P1z28mCwI
[06:47] <reisio> also, best youtube description text ever
[06:49] <reisio> wrong chan :p
[06:51] <hylian> about my kde question, if anyone is wondering, the solution is to log out and then back in again, then you get the little black "stop" button, and then you can delete an activity. Bye all.
[06:56] <punkmexic> can someone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5954073/
[06:58] <kelvinella> hello, how do I write a loop with scp to copy files?
[06:58] <kelvinella> without typing in the password in every file?
[06:59] <ikonia> punkmexic: let me guess, trying to do something with pip or something like that
[06:59] <punkmexic> maybe
[06:59] <punkmexic> what should i do ikonia
[06:59] <ikonia> punkmexic: looks for a yes/no not "maybe"
[06:59] <reisio> kelvinella: sshfs foo@bar:baz qux && for i in fred; do cp "$i" quz/; done
[06:59] <punkmexic> yes
[06:59] <reisio> … && fusermount -u qux :p
[06:59] <kelvinella> reisio, scp
[06:59] <ikonia> punkmexic: "dont use it" is the genuine answer, most of what you need should be handled thorugh the ubuntu package manager
[07:00] <reisio> kelvinella: scp, ssh, sftp, sshfs, same thing
[07:00] <kelvinella> reisio, it wont ask for password?
[07:00] <reisio> it will, once
[07:00] <punkmexic> looks like its fixed
[07:00] <mobile> could use passwordless logins for scp
[07:00] <kelvinella> reisio, which command makes it once?
[07:00] <reisio> kelvinella: sshfs
[07:01] <kelvinella> reisio, for ((i=6401;i<=6649;i++)); do scp root@192.168.1.100:/private/var/mobile/Media/DCIM/106APPLE/IMG_$i.* .; done
[07:01] <reisio> you can probably use keys, but that's probably about as much work as typing a password a few times, at least the first time you do it :)
[07:01] <kelvinella> reisio, whats the problem in this command?
[07:01] <reisio> kelvinella: you tell me
[07:02] <reisio> you using bash?
[07:02] <kelvinella> reisio, i run it in terminal
[07:02] <reisio> for i in {6401..6649}; would work in bash
[07:02] <reisio> no manual incrementing required
[07:02] <punkmexic> see yaa
[07:02] <punkmexic> :)
[07:02] <reisio> adios
[07:03] <bobbby> when i type activemq at the commandline without qualifying the path, it tells me "this package is not installed". I installed activemq without using the apt-get package manager. is there any way I can get activemq to trigger the program I installed rather than refering to the package that could be installed?
[07:04] <reisio> bobbby: where's the executable that you installed?
[07:04] <bobbby> it's at /opt/activemq-some.version.number/bin/activemq
[07:04] <kelvinella> reisio, i have IMG_6401.jpg to IMG_6649.jpg wanna copy from iphone to computer, can u help me?
[07:05] <reisio> kelvinella: does your computer have bluetooth?
[07:05] <kelvinella> reisio, they are in root@192.168.1.100:/private/var/mobile/Media/DCIM/106APPLE/
[07:05] <airtonix> bobbby: and it runs when you type /opt/activemq-some.version.number/bin/activemq
[07:05] <reisio> you could use an iOS "FTP" client, too
[07:05] <reisio> if it supports "sftp", which most do these days
[07:05] <dr_willis> bobbby:  make a script that cd's to the right place then runs thee command, or an alias that does the samw thing.
[07:06] <dr_willis> bobbby:  you added /opt/whatever/ to your default PATH?
[07:06] <reisio> kelvinella: sshfs root@192.168.1.100:/private/var/mobile/Media/DCIM/106APPLE localmounthere, potentially
[07:06] <mobile> kelvinella go into linux in the file browser address bar type in sftp://root@ip:/ and now you can browse your iphone files, copy, paste
[07:06] <bobbby> dr_willis haven't done that, how do you do that?
[07:06] <FourFire> Hello, I have an issue where any sound file I play cuts out after half a second, on the inbuilt speakers and headphones.
[07:06] <FourFire> I recently installed pulseaudio Volume control to allow me to play sound on a HDTV by changing the configuration setting.
[07:06] <FourFire> the configuration setting is currently on Analog stereo Duplex (which I think is default?) How may I fix this issue?
[07:06] <dr_willis> bobbby:  id just make a script that calls  calls the binary you need properly
[07:06] <mobile> sshfs dont work from iphone to pc
[07:07] <dr_willis> bobbby:  i dont see how youa re just typing the command . and its working.. if its not allready in your PATH
[07:07] <reisio> mobile: I wouldn't think so
[07:07] <kelvinella> mobile, failed to open
[07:08] <reisio> FourFire: does it work on the hdtv?
[07:08] <mobile> the iphone needs to be on, ie the screen lit
[07:08] <mobile> some basic security
[07:09] <bobbby> dr_willis if I type the command it tells me "activemq is not installed, you can install this package by typing apt-get..." which is true, yes you can, but that gets you an old version, and the new version isn't packaged, so I had to install it manually. however i'm still getting ubuntu telling me about the package when i'd like it to just run the manually installed version.
[07:09] <kelvinella> its one
[07:09] <FourFire> yeah when I switch it to Digital stereo (HDMI) output
[07:09] <kelvinella> its on
[07:09] <FourFire> perfectly, no problems
[07:09] <mobile> ahh. if you can ssh to it scp sshfs and scp will work from the pc
[07:10] <dr_willis> bobbby:  thats a fewature of bash/shell/ubuntu to help you. again.. i would make a script that calls the binary you do have installed and put it in some bin dir in your default path
[07:10] <pranjal710> Hi, I am running a shell script, I want its output to be put in a file. My script is: http://pastebin.com/XGFhhyKB I am not getting the output in the file.
[07:10] <reisio> FourFire: so you think you've set it back to default to play locally, but you're not sure?
[07:10] <dr_willis> bobbby:  best would be to use a PPA to get the latest version of that program and not  use source, or a arcvhive
[07:11] <bobbby> dr_willis nobody has packaged the latest version of that program.
[07:11] <reisio> pranjal710: -S?
[07:12] <FourFire> I've tried both of the "maybe default" settings
[07:13] <FourFire> ok I tried Analog stereo output again and it's working fine...
[07:13] <reisio> :D
[07:13] <FourFire> I don't like the fact that my sound will work sometimes, but not always...
[07:13] <FourFire> thanks anyway ;)
[07:14] <pranjal710> reisio: I took help from http://askubuntu.com/questions/155791/how-do-i-sudo-a-command-in-a-script-without-being-asked-for-a-password/155795#155795
[07:14] <mobile> this room, good techs. makes the windows techs look real sad lol
[07:15] <dr_willis> windows makes techs sad..
[07:15] <mobile> so true.
[07:15] <reisio> FourDoll1rs: make a script instead of relying on your memory :)
[07:15] <FourDoll1rs> reisio: @_@a
[07:16] <syn-ack> In all fairness, I've seen some excellent Windows guys who were non-degree'd and some horrible Windows guys who, despite having their MCSE, etc couldn't find their way out of a box.
[07:16] <reisio> pranjal710: I just can't find any sudo man page that documents a -S
[07:17] <reisio> pranjal710: does your 'man sudo' have a -S?
[07:18] <reisio> maybe they undocumented it because it defeats the purpose of sudo :p
[07:18] <tintindks> hi, anyone knows how to install intel hd graphics 4000 driver in Ubuntu 10.04 32bit?
[07:18] <Terabyte> you're not looking hard enough. try sudo man sudo
[07:18] <reisio> tintindks: what makes you think it isn't installed?
[07:19] <reisio> Terabyte: -AknS?
[07:19] <Terabyte> zats ze joke
[07:19] <tintindks> because when I restart computer says "start in low mode resolution". However after accept the message load ok the desktop
[07:19] <reisio> Terabyte: heh
[07:20] <reisio> tintindks: I'm not sure that means the driver isn't loaded
[07:21] <reisio> tintindks: can you pastebin the output of lspci -n ?
[07:21] <tintindks> @reisio if I do lshw -C video I see there is no driver loades
[07:21] <ikonia> tintindks: that's not what was asked
[07:22] <dr_willis> so it says its in low-res mode.. but its not.
[07:22] <reisio> I'm pretty sure that's a term Canonical just made up
[07:22] <reisio> it could mean almost anything
[07:22] <ikonia> isn't it the output of the unity acceleration detection test
[07:22] <reisio> it probably means compiz didn't load
[07:22] <reisio> which could also many a lot of things
[07:23] <reisio> ikonia: that'd be my guess
[07:23] <ikonia> I'm reasonably sure it is
[07:23] <ikonia> there is a package that tests for 3d acceleration for unity,
[07:23] <reisio> among the things that might make compiz not load: your hardware actually works with compiz but compiz thinks it doesn't because someone put it on a list :)
[07:23] <reisio> which brings us back to lspci -n
[07:24] <reisio> s/also many/also mean/
[07:24] <pranjal710> reisio: nopes, buit its working for me, just that its not putting the output to a file
[07:24] <pranjal710> !!
[07:24] <reisio> pranjal710: does an equivalent command without sudo put output to a file?
[07:24] <ikonia> pranjal710: it's not working for you
[07:24] <ikonia> pranjal710: more so as you've not terminated your password with a new line character
[07:25] <ikonia> pranjal710: its probably still running of cached auth
[07:26] <ikonia> clear the cache with sudo -K
[07:28] <tintindks> @reisio http://pastebin.com/CXP3fLjC
[07:29] <Prock81> anyone familer with e4defrag
[07:29] <dr_willis> Prock81:  why do you want to defrag?
[07:29] <dr_willis> well.. why do you think you need to defrag ;)
[07:30] <reisio> tintindks: how about lspci -k | grep -i vga -B 2
[07:30] <Prock81> cause im loading an image into the ram and it reports it needes to be contigous
[07:30] <dr_willis> loading what into ram exactly?
[07:30] <Prock81> xp
[07:31] <dr_willis> and how/what are you doing excatly?
[07:31] <tintindks> @reisio http://pastebin.com/yxMhwY5r
[07:31] <pranjal710> ikonia: I checked, its working, not using the cached
[07:32] <Prock81> being able to run a particular program that actually checks to see if its in a VM, and if so shuts down... not having to format my hard drive
[07:34] <Prock81> i dont understand e4defrag 's output
[07:34] <ikonia> pranjal710: I don't see how as you've not terminated it with a new line character as required
[07:34] <DWSR> Is there a way to always enforce certain a certain permission set on files in a directory?
[07:35] <kelvinella> reisio, i have tried the sshfs
[07:35] <kelvinella> reisio, its painfully slow
[07:35] <Prock81> it goes by a score, i just want a yes or no, is it or not fragmented, and if so defrag it, what is best for that, ext4 and fat32 would be nice
[07:35] <ikonia> pranjal710: you're syntax for running the command is also very odd
[07:36] <ikonia> pranjal710: richwestcsh ./../date.sh??
[07:36] <pranjal710> ikonia: I took help from the link I jmentioned : http://askubuntu.com/questions/155791/how-do-i-sudo-a-command-in-a-script-without-being-asked-for-a-password/155795#155795
[07:36] <reisio> kelvinella: it'd be the same speed with scp
[07:36] <reisio> tintindks: try sudo modprobe i915
[07:36] <pranjal710> ikonia: Could you suggest something, I want to run a sudo shell command without being prompted for a password and direct the output to a file
[07:36] <ikonia> pranjal710: if I where you I would consider setting up a sudo rule with NOPASSWD for this command
[07:37] <pranjal710> ikona: how do I do that?
[07:37] <ikonia> pranjal710: also you're not running a command, you're doing something very odd.
[07:37] <tintindks> reisio: FATAL: Error inserting i915 (/lib/modules/2.6.38-15-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915.ko): No such device
[07:37] <ikonia> pranjal710: you're running sudo to launch a shell to run a script that runs a command
[07:37] <reisio> tintindks: what version of Ubuntu?
[07:37] <ikonia> pranjal710: it looks like you're making this very complex for something that is not needed
[07:37] <tintindks> reisio: 10.04
[07:37] <ikonia> pranjal710: more so as "date" does not need "sudo" to run
[07:38] <Prock81> question? in grub can there be a space in the file path / file name for the image to be loaded?
[07:38] <pranjal710> ikonia: Actually There are various other scripts which require sudo right. Just for test case, I am using a shell script which is inturn calling a shell which will run sudo scripts
[07:38] <ikonia> Prock81: you'd need to escape it,  but there should be no space in /boot
[07:38] <reisio> tintindks: can you not use a more recent version? It's kind of a cop out, but newer versions of things do tend to be improved
[07:38] <Prock81> if so what would be the format to handle the spaces
[07:38] <reisio> tintindks: also you're going to want to update real soon regardless
[07:38] <ikonia> pranjal710: sounds a mess
[07:39] <Prock81>  ikonia not for my ubuntu, but i want to add something personal
[07:39] <pranjal710> ikonia: Could you suggest something better?
[07:39] <reisio> Prock81: but why? :p
[07:39] <ikonia> Prock81: check #grub
[07:39] <Prock81> reisio: why on what part
[07:39] <ikonia> pranjal710: a simple script that is executed properly, with a password exception in the sudo rules
[07:40] <reisio> Prock81: why a space
[07:40] <pranjal710> ikonia: How do I add a password exception into the sudo rule?
[07:40] <tintindks> reisio: I know, but I cannot. I use this installation for some different hardware and I clone them. Need that version to have the same in all computers (for working computers)
[07:40] <ikonia> pranjal710: research sudo rules
[07:40] <reisio> tintindks: k
[07:40] <pranjal710> ikonia: Ok
[07:40] <ikonia> pranjal710: especially the NOPASSWORD option
[07:40] <pranjal710> ikonia: Thanks
[07:41] <Prock81> cause im working with a file that gets modified often, and its in a certin place where an application expects it, and im tired of copying it to /
[07:41] <Prock81>  reisio^
[07:41] <maxiPad3gs> I am on 13.04 desktop/ thinkpad x220 trying ot get my sd card reader to auto mount inserted cards. i followed a command line from the Ubuntu forums "sudo modprobe -r r852; sudo modprobe -r sdhci_pci; sudo modprobe r852; sudo modprobe sdhci_pci" and it did not work. How can I undo these commands?
[07:42] <reisio> tintindks: what about a newer kernel version, can you manage that?
[07:42] <reisio> interesting, ' nick^' is missed by He/xChat's highlighter <rolls eyes>
[07:43] <reisio> Prock81: why not use a symlink ;)
[07:43] <Prock81>  maxiPad3gs, i dont know the answer, but im wondering do you get an icon for the SD card in the launcher?
[07:43] <Prock81> will grub work with a symlink?
[07:43] <reisio> cd /boot && ln -s bar\ baz foo
[07:43] <reisio> Prock81: yup, I've been using one for years
[07:44] <reisio> I think originally the kernel make install created it for me, even
[07:44] <Prock81>  reisio can u make a better example that i can grasp
[07:44] <tintindks> reisio: if I update the Kernel i loose some client apps of my company. Anyway, we see the driver there, but cannot insert it. "No such device" it sais but really the system see the video card
[07:44] <Prock81> like pretent its an iso file.iso
[07:44] <reisio> cd /boot && ln -s filewith\ aspace symlinkNameForGrubMakeEasierHooray
[07:45] <reisio> just tab complete the file with the space :p
[07:45] <tintindks> reisio: if the diver is there (kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915.ko) what can i do
[07:47] <Prock81>  reisio i got my bootld that make a difference in the same partition, wou
[07:48] <Prock81> typo.....
[07:48] <tintindks> raisio: curiously, when I accept the message low-mode resolution its start OK. I run blender without problem. But then, I do "lshw -C video" and I dont see any driver loaded.
[07:49] <Prock81> my boot is not its own partition, so would that affect the way i need to type the symlink
[07:49] <krz> do i have to have canonical partner repo, to install skype?
[07:50] <krz> or does ubuntu have it officially in its own repo?
[07:50] <reisio> Prock81: you might try with noacpi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[07:50] <reisio> krz: it's not in an official repo
[07:50] <reisio> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[07:51] <reisio> or I guess one should say ordinary
[07:51] <Prock81> acpi=off does what>
[07:51] <Prock81> ?
[07:51] <jony_easyrider> some of my client somehow removed the Guest session in Ubuntu 12.04 and after that it wont boot in GUI, it shows "Your system is running in low-graphics mode", please help
[07:51] <Arbition> noacpi and acpi=off actually seem to do slightly different things
[07:52] <Arbition> I actually found that for my computer, noacpi did the job, but losing acpi is pretty bad. noapic may also work
[07:53] <dr_willis> !acpi
[07:54] <we6jbo> Is there a way to get a notificaton or a popup window when someone such as myself SSH remotely onto my system?
[07:54] <dr_willis> acpi is some bios thangy :) advanced computer power inferface? (check wiki pedia)
[07:54] <Arbition> acpi manages more than just power
[07:54] <dr_willis> we6jbo:  you could monitor /var/log/ files   i think theres 'auth' that shows info
[07:55] <Arbition> You really want to avoid losing it if possible
[07:55] <blazemore> we6jbo: The file /var/log/auth.log is appended to with every login
[07:55] <Arbition> I found that I lost my secondary threads on my processor when I used noacpi
[07:55] <krz> how do i know if i already have the following repo: http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner
[07:55] <dr_willis> we6jbo:    tail -f /var/log/auth.log    in a terminal ;)
[07:55] <krz> where can i check this
[07:56] <dr_willis> krz /etc/apt/sources.list  and in sources.list.d
[07:56] <we6jbo> dr_willis:  there's no application or something that I can install that will do that?
[07:57] <dr_willis> we6jbo:  theres log monitoring apps in the repos
[07:58] <dr_willis> sshd may have some options also. but ive never looked into it much
[08:00] <Prock81> sudo nano /etc/default/grub && update-grub ... is that the proper way to add entries to grub, using nano
[08:01] <we6jbo> dr_willis: ok I'll check out the apps in the repo. Thanks for helping me :)
[08:02] <tintindks> reisio: any idea?
[08:03] <Prock81> is this the proper file to edit to make manual grub changes, /etc/default/grub
[08:03] <mobile> /exit
[08:04] <maxiPad3gs> dr willis  !><!
[08:05] <reisio> Prock81: tintindks: sorry got you two mixed up :p
[08:05] <reisio> tintindks: you might try with noacpi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[08:05] <dr_willis> Prock81:  thats a config file that update-grub uses. it depends on what you are doing to grub as to what files to change
[08:06] <tintindks> reisio: thanks anyway
[08:06] <krz> dr_willis: so if i do this twice: sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner", will it add multiple entries?
[08:09] <krz> when i do sudo apt-get install skype, which repo is it trying to contact?
[08:09] <krz> how can i find this out?
[08:09] <fidel> krz: apt-cache policy PACKAGENAMe might help
[08:09] <DuncanNZ> krz: apt-cache show skype
[08:10] <DuncanNZ> actually go with fidel's one
[08:10] <syn-ack> Skype's in the Partner repos
[08:11] <dr_willis> krz it wont really matter if it has extra duplicate entries
[08:12] <krz> skype is a bit buggy, so im completely removing it and reinstalling
[08:12] <dr_willis> krz i imagine it will still be buggy...
[08:12] <dr_willis> remove and reinstalling to 'fix' things - is a windows mentality thing
[08:13] <DuncanNZ> yes skype is very buggy. but there's no 3rd party alternative if all your friends are on skype
[08:13] <jony_easyrider> how can be repaired an existing Ubuntu 12.04 OS?
[08:13] <dr_willis> i perfer google coice
[08:13] <dr_willis> jony_easyrider:  depends on whats damaged
[08:13] <dr_willis> jony_easyrider:  the rescue/recovery mode. or a live cd are normal used for severe cases
[08:14] <jony_easyrider> dr_willis, it was wrongly removed the guest session and now it won't enter on the logon screen
[08:15] <reisio> DuncanNZ: not without at least one instance of skype code running :)
[08:16] <dr_willis> jony_easyrider:  wrongly?   if you want  to restore the normal ubuntu system. login to a console and reinstall the 'ubuntu-desktop' package
[08:16] <DuncanNZ> Can anyone help with wifi?
[08:16] <blazemore> DuncanNZ: Ask your next (real) question
[08:17] <DuncanNZ> I've enabled the broadcom driver in my driver setups, but it doesn't recognise wifi at all.
[08:17] <DuncanNZ> sorry I should know not to ask to ask, been here for a while
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> DuncanNZ: if you run:  sudo modprobe b43     does it activate?
[08:17] <jony_easyrider> dr_willis, I tried that already, but the issue still there
[08:17] <DuncanNZ> ActionParsnip: no, no output or result from that command
[08:17] <jony_easyrider> dr_willis, "Your system is running in low-graphics mode"
[08:19] <dr_willis> jony_easyrider:  you get  that when you login? or befor?   what is your video chipset and what driver ar eyou using
[08:19] <DuncanNZ> the wifi used to work just fine after enabling the proprietary driver but after upgrading my kernel it doesn't. Even when I use the old kernel.
[08:19] <darthpbal> I'm having issues with my wifi as well.
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> DuncanNZ: thats fine, means it worked
[08:19] <Prock81> this is what i was to put in /etc/default/grub then update-grub2 http://paste.ubuntu.com/5954234/
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> DuncanNZ: check with network applet, see if networks are visible
[08:20] <DuncanNZ> ActionParsnip: it just has no section for wifi at all
[08:20] <jony_easyrider> dr_willis, that error window appear before login screen
[08:20] <jony_easyrider> dr_willis, how can I verify the chipset vendor?
[08:21] <dr_willis> jony_easyrider:  the 'lspci' command
[08:22] <Prock81>  DuncanNZ, ive been through something like that on a different linux, i backed up the fix script to google drive cause it ketp happenting to me, one moment
[08:22] <dr_willis> Prock81:  that does NOT go in /etc/default/grub   it would go in /etc/gruub.d/40_custom or some other custom entry file
[08:23] <DuncanNZ> is the "this device is using an alternative driver" normal? http://s22.postimg.org/qk9jbl84h/screenshot.png
[08:23] <jony_easyrider> dr_willis, it's Intel
[08:24] <dr_willis> jony_easyrider:  intel makes a lot of chipsets. you may want to check askubuntu.com for that error message aand 'intel' and see if theres any known issues or work arounds.  intel drivers shoul dbe included by default
[08:24] <b3h3m0th> I have enabled third party repositories and later reverted my repository list. No I am getting error while trying to install using apt :    Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:24] <DuncanNZ> b3h3m0th: can you post the full output?  pipe it to pastebinit
[08:24] <jony_easyrider> dr_willis, ty, I will do that
[08:26] <Prock81>  DuncanNZ https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B--qRuS-djY5MVlNV29ubUtIMVU/edit?usp=sharing ,dont forget to edit it to fit the driver module you use and chmod +x it
[08:26] <DuncanNZ> Prock81: I sent an "access request" when I clicked that link
[08:26] <Prock81> heh?
[08:27] <DuncanNZ> well it said you need permission to access this document, click here to request access from the owner, so I clicked it
[08:27] <DuncanNZ> it probably sent you an email, Prock81
[08:27] <Prock81> i seen what u mean, its public now
[08:27] <dr_willis> b3h3m0th:  thats a generic error messge.. you may want to pastebin the full output and give the url to the channel
[08:27] <Prock81> was set on pricate
[08:28] <b3h3m0th> http://pastebin.com/kmHcVTkS
[08:28] <fidel> hi - any advanced search-gui  you guys can recommend. right now i am using 'searchmonkey' which tends to crash from time to time
[08:28] <dr_willis> fidel:  to search for what?
[08:29] <DuncanNZ> Prock81: really google docs? I click download and it has a redirect loop
[08:29] <fidel> dr_willis: search for & in files&folders
[08:29] <DuncanNZ> I'll pm you my email?
[08:29] <darthpbal> Hi, I'm having some issues with my wifi connection that only started suddenly today. My connection will drop randomly, and signal strength doesn't seem to be the issue.
[08:30] <Prock81> lol i should have just copy and paste in paste.ubuntu.com
[08:30] <dr_willis> fidel search for  the charcter '&' ?
[08:30] <Prock81> one moment
[08:30] <JonMc> darthpbal did you do any updates?
[08:30] <blazemore> darthpbal: Are any other devices on the same network having the same problem? Is your device having the same problem with other networks?
[08:30] <darthpbal> I don't think so, but it's possible that I just did them without even thinking about it.
[08:31] <fidel> dr_willis: search for/in files and folders
[08:31] <fidel> basically a gui for find ;)
[08:31] <saschagehlich> hey, i'm trying to install ubuntu on an asus n550 notebook, but after i select "install ubuntu", the screen turns black and stays this way (led backlight is still on though). any hints?
[08:31] <blazemore> fidel: Doesn't Unity's Dash do that out of the box?
[08:31] <darthpbal> I don't have the password for any other networks, but all of the computers on my network are working fine except for the one.
[08:31] <fidel> blazemore: it might - but i am not using unity
[08:32] <JonMc> darthpbal: if they other ones work i would try to roll back your last set of updates, back to when it worked
[08:32] <JonMc> -y
[08:32] <dr_willis> dash dosent search for pattersn IN files last i looked.
[08:32] <blazemore> saschagehlich: Does the system have a make and model? Asus didn't make a computer called n550 I don't think, but Intel did make an Atom n550 so you might be getting confused with that
[08:32] <saschagehlich> blazemore: it's an asus n550jv-CN088H
[08:33] <darthpbal> How would I roll back to previous updates?
[08:33] <Prock81>  DuncanNZ save that in a file and chmod +x, edit the module name for what u need then sh file http://paste.ubuntu.com/5954265/
[08:33] <b3h3m0th> DuncanNZ: http://pastebin.com/kmHcVTkS
[08:33] <JonMc> darthpbal: what os are you using and what version
[08:34] <darthpbal> I'm using Ubuntu 13.04
[08:38] <JonMc> darthpbal: unless you set it up in 13.04, there are no back ups. you will probably have to reinstall unless someone else here has a better idea
[08:38] <saschagehlich> blazemore: turning off secure boot apparently worked… ;)
[08:38] <dr_willis> !downgrade
[08:38] <blazemore> dr_willis: That's not what he is trying to do
[08:39] <JonMc> Sorry it took me so long, i had to look it up for the newest versions of Ubuntu
[08:39] <dr_willis> !pin
[08:40] <VictorCL> hi
[08:40] <darthpbal> Is there any idea what could be the cause of this?
[08:40] <VictorCL> I have mess up my sources.list and I dont get any updates anymore
[08:40] <VictorCL> sudo apt-get update get stuck
[08:40] <VictorCL> Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-ca
[08:40] <VictorCL> 99% [Waiting for headers]
[08:40] <VictorCL> there
[08:40] <FloodBot1> VictorCL: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:41] <dr_willis> remove that  source perhaps VictorCL
[08:41] <JonMc> darthpbal: if it was working fine and now its suddenly not working fine then either an update caused a change, your hardware changed, or something is interfering
[08:41] <franci> hello, which domain do i need to choose for ptr record?
[08:41] <dr_willis> server could be down. it should time out eventually
[08:41] <blazemore> franci: This is an Ubuntu support channel
[08:41] <darthpbal> I looked up my issue and some people were saying something about a new kernel was messing up peoples wifi stability
[08:41] <franci> blazemore: i know, but i want to set it on ubuntu ;)
[08:41] <blazemore> darthpbal: If you boot into a previous kernel do the problems go away?
[08:42] <JonMc> darthpbal: that would be an update
[08:42] <VictorCL> dr_willis,  I dont see it there
[08:42] <blazemore> !details | franci what are you actually trying to do? Remember I know nothing apart from what you tell me
[08:42] <dr_willis> VictorCL:  thers sources.list.d/* also
[08:42] <darthpbal> How can I boot into a previous kernel?
[08:43] <blazemore> darthpbal: On the Grub boot menu, choose the option to see older kernels
[08:44] <JonMc> darthpbal: hold shift while booting
[08:44] <franci> blazemore: i want to send mail through sendmail and i need to add ptr record. i have more domains on this server and i will send mails only from one of them. now i need to choose domain for ptr record, but i don't know which one should i choose - like one as hostname?
[08:44] <blazemore> franci: Why do you need to add a ptr record?
[08:45] <blazemore> franci: Do you mean an MX record?
[08:45] <JonMc> for more help darthpbal http://askubuntu.com/questions/82140/how-can-i-boot-with-an-older-kernel-version
[08:45] <franci> blazemore: because if there isn't ptr records isps block ip and mail from it
[08:45] <darthpbal> I'm booting with a previous kernel now, give me a sec...
[08:45] <blazemore> franci: Oh! You mean reverse DNS
[08:45] <franci> blazemore: yes, absolutely
[08:46] <blazemore> franci: You have to contact your ISP, it might not be possible
[08:46] <blazemore> franci: Only the owner of the IP addresses can change the records for them
[08:46] <franci> blazemore: i've contacted it and they send me question what subdomain i'd like to have on ptr
[08:47] <blazemore> franci: Oh that's interesting
[08:47] <franci> blazemore: really ;)
[08:47] <blazemore> franci: Who is your ISP in this case?
[08:47] <blazemore> Yeah it's interesting because their response doesn't really make sense
[08:47] <darthpbal> Hey guys, it's looking like that was the issue. I booted in a previous kernel and it looks like my connection and speed are stable now!
[08:47] <blazemore> franci: Is it a home connection, a server you rent, a colo or what?
[08:48] <franci> blazemore: it's some kind of colo
[08:48] <rhumbot> hi all, i was wondering if there is a solution for multitouch gestures for ubuntu 13.04? (i cant configure them - worked perfectly on 12.04))
[08:48] <blazemore> franci: "some kind of colo" and you don't know?
[08:48] <rhumbot> also: is it possible to downgrade to get back to 12.04?
[08:48] <franci> blazemore: it's server for learning
[08:48] <dr_willis> rhumbot:  from 13.04 to 12.04?
[08:48] <blazemore> franci: You rent rack space and network connectivity in a datacentre? Did you have to physically buy a server yourself (off ebay for example)
[08:49] <rhumbot> dr_willis yes
[08:49] <dr_willis> rhumbot:  reformat renstall.
[08:49] <rhumbot> i see. thats what i would like to avoid.
[08:49] <blazemore> franci: Really this isn't an Ubuntu issue at all - you need to contact your ISP to get your preferred domain set up as the PTR record for your IP
[08:50] <franci> blazemore: but can you please help me :/
[08:51] <blazemore> No, and it's not that I'm choosing not to, it's that I can't
[08:52] <blazemore> You need to contact your ISP, this is as relevant to ask the #ubuntu channel as it is to go to your mechanic and ask him
[08:53] <adrian> #linux-sunxi
[08:53] <Shadow}}> Is there an apt for RSS feeds? If so can someone recommend a suitable one for Xubuntu.
[08:53] <corentin> hi
[08:54] <dr_willis> Shadow}}:  should be several rss readers in the repos. or use some of the many firefox extensions for rss feeds
[08:54] <Shadow}}> *Xubuntu 13.04
[08:54] <dr_willis> xubuntu uses the same repos as ubuntu ;)
[08:55] <MagePsycho> how to search and replace from the xml files in a directory? i want to replace <active>true</active> to <active>false</active> from them?
[08:55] <Shadow}}> Well, I've never used rss feeds. So really unsure how they work... Is there a way to receive a desktop notification from a feed?
[08:55] <dr_willis> MagePsycho:  sed, or awk would be the normal tools for that sort of work
[08:56] <dr_willis> Shadow}}:  there may be some indicator-applets listed at omgubuntu, webupd8 or the askubuntu.com big list of indicator-applets for that
[08:56] <corentin> i'm getting errors when running apt-get update, as seen here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5954340/ any clue what's wrong? it looks like it's trying to connect to "security.ubuntu.com:http", but i checked my sources.list and it looks ok
[08:56] <Shadow}}> Ah thank you dr_willis
[08:57] <MagePsycho> i m tryig to write as: sed -i 's/<active>true</active>/<active>false</active>/' *.xml
[08:57] <MagePsycho> but afraid to run this commandon live site
[08:57] <dr_willis> MagePsycho: thats why you make backups
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> MagePsycho: copy the data off to a test folder first then...
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> MagePsycho: once it works on the copied files then go nuts
[08:58] <MagePsycho> can you check once guys.. if you see any issues: sed -i 's/<active>true</active>/<active>false</active>/' *.xml
[08:59] <rhumbot> so is there a way to reactivate the multitouch gestures used in 12.04?
[08:59] <ElFizbanio> usr13, if you'd like to know, I did build it together
[09:01] <SDIS> fasfdafd
[09:01] <SDIS> fsdaf
[09:01] <SDIS> clear
[09:02] <dr_willis> MagePsycho:  use one of your files as a test case and see for yourself it it works
[09:02] <dr_willis> seems a rather odd thing to be doing to a lot of files..
[09:03] <histo> MagePsycho: run it with -i and observe the output
[09:03] <histo> MagePsycho: worry without the -i
[09:03] <histo> s/worry/sorry/
[09:03] <Prock81> !paste
[09:04] <gribouille> hi
[09:04] <histo> MagePsycho: also you can change the seperator like sed s_<active>true_blahblah_ that way with escape characters \ it doesn't look all screwey
[09:06] <gribouille> is it possible to reboot the computer while an lvm operation (such as moving a PV) is in progress?
[09:07] <blazemore> gribouille: No, why would you even do that?
[09:08] <MagePsycho> i tried to run this command: sed -i 's/<active>true</active>/<active>false</active>/' Anais_Breadcrumbs.xml
[09:08] <MagePsycho> man sed
[09:08] <gribouille> blazemore, because I stop my computer every night
[09:08] <blazemore> gribouille: So don't do your LVM operation overnight
[09:09] <somsip> MagePsycho: escape the slashes. something like 's/<active>true<\/active>/<active>false<\/active>/g'
[09:09] <gribouille> blazemore, where did you read it isn't possible?
[09:09] <dr_willis> escape the  < angle bracketss you mean
[09:09] <dr_willis> >
[09:09] <dr_willis> ?
[09:10] <blazemore> gribouille: I didn't read it isn't possible.
[09:10] <blazemore> gribouille: Of course it isn't possible
[09:10] <MagePsycho> it works: sed -i 's/<active>true<\/active>/<active>false<\/active>/' Anais_Breadcrumbs.xml
[09:10] <gribouille> blazemore, why?
[09:10] <dr_willis> or am i missreading. :) its too early  for regrexps
[09:10] <blazemore> gribouille: If you power off your PC during a partition resize operation, don't expect it to work when you turn it back on again
[09:10] <somsip> dr_willis: it's always too early for regex ;-)
[09:10] <dr_willis> the s_<whatever>   suggestion is worth using ;)
[09:11] <holy_rain> Is there any way to install ubuntu inside another ubuntu like we used to do in case of an ubuntu installation inside windows ?
[09:11] <blazemore> gribouille: Just make sure, when you do the LVM operations, that you leave your PC powered on until it finishes
[09:11] <blazemore> holy_rain: Not like Wubi no, but you can use Virtualbox
[09:11] <dr_willis> holy_rain:  run vbox on ubuntu..
[09:11] <blazemore> !virtualbox | holy_rain
[09:11] <gribouille> blazemore, do you use lmv yourseelf?
[09:11] <blazemore> gribouille: Yes
[09:11] <dr_willis> wine wubi.exe  ;P
[09:11] <blazemore> dr_willis: for science
[09:12] <lixonic> #rvm
[09:12] <holy_rain> blazemore, I know about that, but I was hoping that somehow that is possible via a chroot
[09:12] <gribouille> blazemore, lvm operations don't change the size of partitions
[09:12] <histo> holy_rain: you could use lxc's or virtualbox
[09:12] <blazemore> gribouille: What are you actually trying to do?
[09:12] <histo> !lxc | holy_rain
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> is there a 'Wubi must die' petition somewhere?
[09:13] <gribouille> blazemore, I just want to know how lvm works exactly
[09:13] <holy_rain> histo, what is lxc?
[09:13] <histo> holy_rain: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LXC
[09:13] <blazemore> !lvm | gribouille
[09:13] <dr_willis> i think wubi has allready been lkilled.
[09:13] <histo> holy_rain: linux containers very nice
[09:13] <histo> !wubi | is dead
[09:14] <holy_rain> Alright, thanks guys.
[09:16] <gribouille> blazemore, I don't understand why the system can't stop the lvm operation when it is shut down and resume it when it boots again
[09:17] <histo> gribouille: http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/LVM-and-VxVM/PVMOVE-What-happens-if-a-server-panics-reboots/td-p/3408352#.UgC_LdI3t8E
[09:18] <blazemore> !ot | gribouille Go and see if anyone wants to discuss it here
[09:19] <gribouille> blazemore, it isn't off topic
[09:20] <kaelter> gribouille: lvm isn't ubuntu specific.
[09:20] <blazemore> gribouille: This is a support channel, if you want to chat about LVM go to offtopic
[09:20] <nomike> hi
[09:21] <gribouille> kaelter, very few things are ubuntu specific
[09:21] <histo> gribouille: if it's not a ubuntu related question then it is off topic
[09:22] <blazemore> The main point is not that it isn't Ubuntu-related (although it isn't), it's that it's not a support question
[09:22] <histo> gribouille: /j #lvm
[09:23] <nomike> I'm running a a Debian server running a number of Ubuntu VM's. As it is for a non-profit project and as there is no full-time sysadmin dedicated to the project, we've turned on automatic security updates on the VM's and the server to keep the internet facing services up to date and minimize the risk of being hacked.
[09:24] <nomike> (this is a well  balanced decision between the risk of being hacked due to security holes in out of date software and the risk of unattended updates)
[09:25] <nomike> My problem now is, that every now and then a new kernel update is installed which of course leaves the already installed kernels untouched. After a while the "/boot" filesystem fills up messing up the whole update-process.
[09:26] <nomike> First step would of course be to include "/boot" in our monitoring so we get aware of the problems early.
[09:26] <dr_willis> nomike:  askubuntu.com has some scripts and discussion on cleaning out old kernels
[09:26] <histo> nomike: http://askubuntu.com/questions/88936/how-to-remove-old-kernel-versions-automatically
[09:26] <nomike> oh...thx...I'd have a loomk
[09:26] <histo> nomike: follow those directions to have unattended-upgrades do it
[09:27] <dr_willis> been quicker to just say what you needed.. ;) instead of the back history..    ;^)
[09:27] <dr_willis> do you really need a swperate /boot/ for each vm instancce also..
[09:28] <dr_willis> id think a /  /home and swap would be enough. Not sure what you gain by having a /boot/ partition
[09:28] <geoffw8_> hi all, if I do rm -rf *
[09:28] <geoffw8_> thats saying, delete everything in this folder and within it
[09:28] <geoffw8_> right?
[09:28] <nomike> Well, as far as I understand the top-most answer suggest turning on a feature to automatically remove unused dependencies. Doesn't that remove the currently running kernel too?
[09:29] <kaelter> geoffw8: yes, but you have to be extremely careful with such commands.
[09:29] <Minkovsky> Hello, I'm having a weird problem with avconv/Nautilus. avconv-encoded MP3 files are 320kbps, but reported as 32kbps; duration is messed up too. http://imgur.com/Wab2jVi
[09:29] <dr_willis> geoffw8_:  the thing to rember is the SHELL  expands the 'wildcard/regular expression'  then passes it to the command.
[09:29] <nomike> geoffw8_, in theory yes. However in the standard configuration of most shell's it doesn't delete files and folders beginning with a "." (=hidden files)
[09:29] <geoffw8_> dr_willis: interesting, what do you mean?
[09:29] <dr_willis> geoffw8_:  so    'echo rm  -rf *'   will show what its doing   i belive
[09:29] <geoffw8_> nomike: thanks
[09:29] <dr_willis> echo *
[09:29] <geoffw8_> dr_willis: ohh, ill do that then
[09:29] <dr_willis> shows all files in the dir
[09:30] <dr_willis> its the SHELL doing it. :) not 'rm'
[09:30] <geoffw8_> theres so much to this right, I feel like I'll be learnign forever
[09:30] <geoffw8_> not a bad thing, dont get me wrong
[09:30] <dr_willis> find that 'using bash' book by oreially - its worth a read
[09:30] <geoffw8_> cheers for help all
[09:30] <nomike> dr_willis, no mention of DOS. There you only get a single string and every program has to parse the arguments by itself. Horrible
[09:32] <dr_willis> i do recall a few commands in linux that do parse the wildcards (or can) themselfs.
[09:33] <dr_willis> i seem to recall        unzip '*.zip'      ;)
[09:33] <BrixSat> morning
[09:33] <[Gentoo]> dr_willis: if that dont work you can use a for loop
[09:33] <dr_willis> i rcall that  unzip '*.zip' works.. but     unzip *.zip  does not
[09:34] <dr_willis> i cant think of any other commands ive seen work that way
[09:34] <[Gentoo]> shouldnt need the quotes i dont think
[09:34] <BrixSat> i have a pc that runs ubuntu but i cant put it to work with 1920*1082 :/ i have an ATI ES1000
[09:35] <dr_willis> the quotes make it work. :) otherwise the shell expands the *
[09:35] <dr_willis> i recall this from years back.
[09:35] <dr_willis> these days i just use 'unp'
[09:37] <dr_willis> bbl
[09:39] <kaelter> BrixSat: from what I can tell your card can't go beyond 1280 x 1024
[09:41] <MikeH> Can anyone think of any reason why plugging my Ubuntu box into the network would seemingly crash the network? Every port light constantly flashes in sync, kind of like it would with a network loop/broadcast storm?
[09:42] <santhosh> hai kvm cluster is possible if possible pls tell me
[09:44] <MagePsycho> sed -i 's/<active>true<\/active>/<active>false<\/active>/' *.xml -> code works fine but i need to exclude some xml files, how should i do?
[09:44] <reisio> santhosh: sure, but why
[09:44] <reisio> MikeH: #networking
[09:45] <BrixSat> kaelter: my debian (latest) is working ok with the card but i hate debian gnome-session-fallback
[09:46] <kaelter> BrixSat: I looked up your card and it seems like a hardware limitation rather than the OS>.
[09:46] <santhosh> Because iam  working on kvm and i amloading 2 servers in kvm so in that case i want it
[09:46] <saschagehlich> hey, after installing ubuntu my notebook boots directly to bios and I can't select my hdd as a boot device anymore
[09:47] <BrixSat> kaelter: so why would it work in debian ok and not in the ubuntu?
Because iam  working on kvm and i amloading 2 servers in kvm so in that case i want it
[09:49] <kaelter> BrixSat: If it's actually getting 1920 x 1080 then my guess is that your card is different from what you posted or the specifications I found were wrong.
[09:49] <reisio> MagePsycho: find . -iname '*not*this*' -o -iname '*or*this*' -prune -o -iname '*.xml' -exec sed -i 's/foo/bar/g' {} \;
[09:49] <BrixSat> kaelter: i found the same specs as you so that is why i dont get it
[09:49] <reisio> MagePsycho: try it with just this first as a pretend: find . -iname '*not*this*' -o -iname '*or*this*' -prune -o -iname '*.xml' -print
[09:52] <MagePsycho> reisio: thanks man.. let me try
[09:52] <Clark05> anyone know of a general purpose socks client that tunnels like ssh -L?
[09:52] <ikonia> Clark05: "socks5" it's old but solid
[09:53] <Clark05> ok
[09:53] <kaelter> BrixSat: My best recommendation would be to try to follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[09:53] <BrixSat> kaelter: my lspci | grep vga "Vga compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI ES1000 (rev 02)
[09:53] <BrixSat> kaelter:  ok:)
[09:54] <MagePsycho> reisio: suppose say i want to exclude xml starting with Core_*.xml, how should i use
[09:55] <Clark05> ikonia: could you give me a link to this package? The name is too ambiguous for a google search.
[09:55] <santhosh> hai kvm cluster is possible if possible pls tell me
[09:56] <ikonia> Clark05: it's actually not ambigious if you search through software archives, but I agree it's not going to be the first hit
[09:56] <ikonia> santhosh: yes, it is possible.
[09:57] <santhosh> how pls tell me <ikonia>
[09:57] <ikonia> santhosh: it's not a "how" - it requirest a fair ammount of experience and understanding
[09:57] <ikonia> santhosh: it's not something you can just "tell someone"
[09:57] <ikonia> santhosh: you need to do a lot of planning with hardware and network, then set it up correctly
[09:59] <santhosh> iam worked on same machine so it is possible eay wat i think <ikonia>
[09:59] <BrixSat> kaelter: :) i have reasnons to believe it worked (my mouse is not giant)
[09:59] <kaelter> BrixSat: Awesome :D
[09:59] <santhosh> and i know hardware and networking <ikonia>
[10:00] <ikonia> santhosh: then why are you asking me if you know how to set the hardware and network up for KVM clustering
[10:00] <BrixSat> kaelter:  but then again i just have a mouse and a black screen :p
[10:00] <santhosh> it is not hard ware ikonia it is software of kvm
[10:01] <ikonia> santhosh: yes i know, but you have to understand the software to set the hardware/networking up properly for an LVM cluster
[10:01] <ikonia> santhosh: it requires experience and understanding
[10:01] <reisio> MagePsycho: find . -iname 'Core_*.xml' -prune -o -iname '*.xml' -print
[10:02] <kaelter> BrixSat: Hmm... at least you have the mouse.
[10:02] <santhosh> ok i think it is not require bcz iam working on single system
[10:02] <BrixSat> yes
[10:02] <ikonia> santhosh: then why are you asking aobout setting up a cluster ?
[10:02] <MagePsycho> reisio: that works.. thanks a ton
[10:02] <l0ll0lll1> hi all. I'm trying to install libopenal1 on saucy-daily, and get "E: Package 'libopenal1' has no installation candidate". How can I fix this?
[10:02] <santhosh> between 2 kvm
[10:02] <ikonia> l0ll0lll1: #ubuntu+1 is hte correct channel
[10:02] <ikonia> santhosh: you can't have 2 kvm on 1 system
[10:03] <santhosh> why it is possible
[10:03] <ikonia> it's "not" possibl
[10:03] <ikonia> possible
[10:03] <ikonia> santhosh: you can only have 1 kvm instance per machine
[10:03] <santhosh> i have 2 same 2 kvm in one system
[10:03] <reisio> you wouldn't want two anyways
[10:03] <babinlonston> Hi give me solution to correct the error in ftp server ...
[10:03] <BrixSat> kaelter:  yes at least a mouse and now how can i debug some info?
[10:03] <ikonia> santhosh: do you want a cluster, yes/no ?
[10:04] <santhosh> only 1 kvm in one machine but how to  conncet cluster
[10:04] <kaelter> BrixSat: I'm really not sure.  if it's JUST a mouse and black screen...
[10:04] <santhosh> yes tell me
[10:04] <babinlonston> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5954524/
[10:04] <BrixSat> kaelter: yes a white nice mouse and a black screen
[10:04] <babinlonston> histo:  please help http://paste.ubuntu.com/5954524/
[10:04] <ikonia> santhosh: you need to plan your hardware (machines/storage/networking) to be prepared for the type of cluster you want.
[10:05] <santhosh> i want storage cluster
[10:05] <santhosh> tell me the steps
[10:05] <BrixSat> if i switch from lightdm to gdm i have 2 mouses, separated by 1000px
[10:05] <reisio> santhosh: virtualized?
[10:05] <santhosh> i can follow that
[10:05] <ikonia> santhosh: it's not "steps" it has to be planned
[10:05] <reisio> BrixSat: neat
[10:06] <santhosh> yes reisio
[10:06] <reisio> santhosh: but why
[10:06] <BrixSat> reisio:  i would prefer one mouse and a working system :p
[10:06] <ikonia> santhosh: it's, not 1,2,3 you need to have the hardware setup a certain way, have compatible hardware for that design and then understand the software a reasonable ammount
[10:06] <santhosh> i need that
[10:06] <reisio> BrixSat: that's reasonable :)
[10:06] <ikonia> santhosh: it's not just "tell me steps" - you have to understand it and set it up
[10:06] <santhosh> u know that one or not
[10:06] <reisio> virtualizing hardware is usually unnecessary overhead, in the case of a 'storage cluster', I'm thinking even moreso
[10:07] <ikonia> santhosh: I know how to setup KVM clusters, yes
[10:07] <BrixSat> kaelter: control alt delete gave me a window wich has no content and the border is horrible
[10:07] <santhosh> ok
[10:07] <babinlonston> BrixSat: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5954524/
[10:08] <iljuventino9> ciao
[10:08] <iljuventino9> !list
[10:08] <BrixSat> babinlonston: why would i want a vsftp config?
[10:09] <kaelter> BrixSat: That seems bizarre. It should be a logout prompt. If it were me I'd reboot and see if that fixes it but I don't know if it's worth the risk of losing more.
[10:09] <babinlonston> BrixSat:  facing issue if u know solution guide me
[10:09] <MagePsycho> reisio: why {} \; is used at the last.. with empty string kind of
[10:09] <reisio> MagePsycho: {} represents every file that is found/matched
[10:09] <reisio> MagePsycho: \; is to do with not confusing your shell
[10:09] <BrixSat> kaelter: reboots ends on same place
[10:09] <Dark_light> I was wondering is there a ppa or something that tracks lts kernel releases ? (like 3.4 or 3.10)
[10:10] <ikonia> Dark_light: the lts kernels are now backported from other releases into the lts versions
[10:10] <BrixSat> babinlonston: you need to provide more info, like how is the vsftp making login? using shell?
[10:10] <BrixSat> babinlonston:  or using mysql
[10:10] <MagePsycho> reisio: sed -i 's/abc/abcd/g' Vs sed -i 's/abc/abcd/' with or without /g
[10:10] <Dark_light> ikonia: what happens when the other releases rech EOL though ?
[10:10] <Dark_light> *reach
[10:11] <ikonia> Dark_light: what do you mean ? they die, get no updates
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: but the backport from Quantal...Precise is LTS but Quantal wil expire before Precise
[10:11] <reisio> MagePsycho: g for global, replace all instances instead of just first
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: its an interesting question
[10:11] <reisio> MagePsycho: usually what people want
[10:11] <BrixSat> kaelter: formating the system will maybe solve the issue :p
[10:11] <babinlonston> BrixSat: now i have configure vsftpd and if im trying to login its keep on asking username and password i cant loginin only this happen while the line chroot_local_user=YES is enabled ..
[10:12] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: backports are not included in LTS support as I recal,
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: ahhh
[10:12] <BrixSat> babinlonston: login via ssh using that same credentials
[10:12] <MagePsycho> reisio: you are my hero.. thanks a ton
[10:12] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: I could be wrong if that's changed, but backports where always just that
[10:12] <reisio> MagePsycho: np :)
[10:12] <reisio> find is my hero
[10:12] <Dark_light> ikonia: no I mean what happens to the lts kernels when their target release reaches EOL do they still receive updates in other releases ?
[10:13] <MagePsycho> reisio: very funny :D
[10:13] <ikonia> Dark_light: don't believe so
[10:13] <babinlonston> BrixSat: ssh how ? and now im used to login from my browser
[10:13] <BrixSat> babinlonston: login either via ssh to see if the credentials are right or login via browser and check the vsftp log
[10:15] <MagePsycho> reisio: find . -iname 'Mage_*.xml' -prune -o -iname '*.xml' -exec sed -i 's/<active>true<\/active>/<active>false<\/active>/' {} \; is working fine.. but i need to display which files gets effected .. is there a way
[10:15] <reisio> MagePsycho: they won't all have active true?
[10:16] <reisio> MagePsycho: might want to grep first, then
[10:16] <kaelter> BrixSat: can you log in to a shell using ctrl-alt-f1?
[10:16] <babinlonston> BrixSat: while im login via ssh its give me              ssh lonston@192.168.122.194  ssh: connect to host 192.168.122.194 port 22: Connection refused
[10:16] <BrixSat> kaelter:  yes im in shell
[10:17] <BrixSat> babinlonston: ok next one, login via browser and see error log
[10:17] <reisio> MagePsycho: -exec grep -l '<active>true</active>'
[10:17] <MagePsycho> reisio: yeah .. what will be the full command looks like
[10:17] <babinlonston> BrixSat: Tue Aug  6 10:16:46 2013 [pid 2] CONNECT: Client "192.168.122.1"          Tue Aug  6 10:16:46 2013 [pid 1] [lonston] OK LOGIN: Client "192.168.122.1"
[10:18] <BrixSat> babinlonston: use a ftp client like filezilla
[10:18] <kaelter> BrixSat: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[10:18] <babinlonston> ok let me check and ill be back
[10:19] <BrixSat> kaelter: 13.04
[10:20] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[10:21] <kaelter> BrixSat: did you completely remove the fglrx driver?
[10:21] <BrixSat> kaelter:  i asume yes
[10:22] <reisio> MagePsycho: maybe this: find . -type f -exec sh -c "grep -l 'true' {} && sed -i 's@<active>true</active>@<active>false</active>@g' {}" \;
[10:22] <wangzheng> i wannt to know how to remove fglrx device。
[10:22] <reisio> MagePsycho: sorry: find . -type f -exec sh -c "grep -l '<active>true</active>' {} && sed -i 's@<active>true</active>@<active>false</active>@g' {}" \;
[10:23] <BrixSat> kaelter:  apt-get remove fglrx-* returns nothing
[10:23] <kaelter> BrixSat: it should be apt-get remove --purge xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx*
[10:23] <babinlonston> BrixSat: while login from filezilla i get a error Response:	500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot()             Error:	Critical error            Error:	Could not connect to server
[10:24] <blazemore> babinlonston: That's a server error, not a problem on your end
[10:24] <blazemore> babinlonston: Is it your server?
[10:24] <BrixSat> kaelter: same result, all clear
[10:25] <babinlonston> just now im checking in my virtual machine ... i need to configure the same in my VPS
[10:25] <babinlonston> BrixSat: just now im checking in my virtual machine ... i need to configure the same in my VPS
[10:25] <kaelter> BrixSat: did you follow this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/VideoDriverDetection#Problem:_Need_to_purge_-fglrx
[10:26] <Max11982> good morning
[10:26] <BrixSat> kaelter: tes
[10:26] <reisio> mornin'
[10:26] <BrixSat> kaelter: *yes
[10:26] <zylinx> I have ubuntu 13.04 Gnome,    in my user menu top right why does it say unavailable under my name ?
[10:27] <reisio> zylinx: name or user name?
[10:27] <zylinx> user name
[10:28] <zylinx> above the Notifications slider
[10:28] <zylinx> next to my profile pic
[10:28] <zylinx> *user pic
[10:28] <Max11982> :) got a small problem cannot see the desktop its fresh install of ubuntu on my macbook pro retain 10.1 i have tried many threads and cannot find any guid that is helping me any one got an idea or can help me with it?
[10:28] <blazemore> Max11982: "Cannot see the desktop" what do you mean? What *can* you see?
[10:28] <Max11982> nothing on the screen just the background pic
[10:29] <Max11982> installed other nvidia drivers and not working
[10:29] <blazemore> Max11982: Did it work before you installed those drivers?
[10:29] <blazemore> Max11982: Has that installation ever worked?
[10:29] <Max11982> no
[10:30] <Max11982> the live cd works perfectly fine
[10:30] <Max11982> when installed the first time it works after restart it stoped
[10:31] <MagePsycho> reisio: that works fine. but i need to exclude Mage_*.xml files
[10:32] <kaelter> BrixSat: I can't seem to find any fixes that I'd feel confident about. The only suggestion I have now is to reinstall the old drivers or stick with debian.
[10:33] <BrixSat> kaelter:  im formating pc (it was a fresh install), and then ill try this manual you sent me again. I like debian but the gnome-session fallback is horrible there, any change i can make it equal to the ubuntu one?
[10:33] <reisio> MagePsycho: find . -name 'Mage_*.xml' -prune -o -exec sh -c "grep -l '<active>true</active>' {} && sed -i 's@<active>true</active>@<active>false</active>@g' {}" \;
[10:34] <kaelter> BrixSat: I don't know enough about it.
[10:34] <ylmfos> hello
[10:34] <BrixSat> kaelter:  thanks for your time :)
[10:34] <zylinx> anybody can tell me why it says unavailable under my ubuntu username in gnome in the top right user menu ?
[10:34] <reisio> 'lo ylmfos
[10:34] <kaelter> BrixSat: No prob. I'm just sorry I couldn't find something that actually worked.
[10:35] <BrixSat> kaelter: even the live cd has the right resolution :(
[10:35] <reisio> zylinx: screenshot?
[10:35] <Max11982> i can see the login screen when loged in nothing on it at all
[10:35] <k1l> Max11982: does guest account work?
[10:35] <dagerik> when exactly does the dayly cronjob happen?
[10:36] <reisio> 3am usually
[10:36] <reisio> they figure computer users aren't insomniacs :p
[10:36] <blazemore> dagerik: http://askubuntu.com/questions/36971/at-what-time-does-cron-execute-daily-scripts
[10:36]  * reisio shakes head
[10:36] <Max11982> guest account does the same thing
[10:36] <k1l> Max11982: you got the video drivers installed?
[10:37] <Max11982> yap nvidia
[10:37] <k1l> from homepage? or nvidia-current form repo?
[10:37] <Max11982> from repo
[10:37] <kaelter> BrixSat: Okay, it looks like if you use generic vesa video drivers it might work but you'll need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and you won't have 3d acceleration.
[10:39] <BrixSat> kaelter:  i had a 32bits system and it was terrible, with a 64bit one it seems im having lucky, the problem is have a dual xeon cpu and a horrible vga card :p
[10:40] <fujipompon> hello ! searching for help configure spdif output under 13.04- 64b
[10:40] <k1l> Max11982: then take a look at the logs: .xsession-errors in /home and syslog or dmesg in /var/log/
[10:40] <Max11982> ok
[10:40] <fujipompon> read a lot of stuff on the topic but can find any soluce...
[10:40] <kaelter> BrixSat: Alright. I hope your luck holds out!
[10:41] <blazemore> What are you trying to do, fujipompon
[10:41] <k1l> Max11982: you could search for your exact apple hardware revision and look out if that needs some extra treatment. im not familiar with that hardware
[10:41] <BluesKaj> Max11982, run sudo nvidia-xconfig . then reboot
[10:41] <BrixSat> kaelter:  :) thks
[10:42] <Max11982> i will try this :)
[10:42] <fujipompon> blazemore: spdif stay silent
[10:42] <kostas> hi, would anyone be able to help with installing the latest ubuntu version on a laptop running on 8.10? I created a USB startup disk using the iso file and tried to boot the computer but it keeps booting using the installed 8.10. I changed the bios setting, tried different usb sticks, a cd, disabling the internal hard drive from the boot order... nothing
[10:42] <Max11982> rebooting
[10:42] <fujipompon> blazemore: hdmi works but I badely need spdif
[10:43] <blazemore> kostas: Are you sure the BIOS supports booting from USB? if it does, make sure the BIOS boot order is set to boot from the USB port BEFORE the internal hard drive
[10:43] <BrixSat> babinlonston: ?
[10:43] <blazemore> fujipompon: Does your computer have a make and model?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> fujipompon: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[10:43] <kostas> blazemore: yes, this is how I installed ubuntu 8.10 on the machine to begin with
[10:43] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, do you have pavucontrol installed
[10:44] <k1l> kostas: make sure it boots from the usb. sometimes its f10 or f12 for boot menue
[10:44] <Max11982> wow now a bigger one ( could not apply the stored configuration for monitors)
[10:44] <reisio> kostas: there's no dedicated boot menu?
[10:45] <kostas> k11: reisio: I already did that, I went into the bios setting boot menu and placed the external usb drive first... it keeps using the internal hard drive to boot, although this exact procedure worked three years ago on the same computer when I installed 8.10
[10:45] <fujipompon> blazemore: wget -0 says "-0"invalid option
[10:45] <reisio> kostas: how'd you create the file?
[10:45] <blazemore> ActionParsnip: ^^
[10:45] <reisio> fujipompon: -O as in OMG, maybe?
[10:46] <blazemore> fujipompon: copy and paste the command
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> fujipompon: COPY the command
[10:46] <kostas> reisio: I used the "create usb startup disk" feature on 8.10
[10:46] <reisio> that's good advice
[10:46] <reisio> kostas: mmm
[10:46] <kostas> reision: and the iso file downloaded from ubuntu website
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> fujipompon: why are you trying to retype it? Why do you think I gave the exact command?
[10:46] <reisio> kostas: you might want to use dd instead
[10:46] <kostas> reisio: dd?
[10:47] <reisio> kostas: yeah, you need to be careful, though
[10:47] <reisio> kostas: you've got to make sure you get the /dev/ name right
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> fujipompon: you do know computers have a clipboard which allows you to copy and paste data, even btween applications...
[10:47] <john__> how to install kvm cluster
[10:47] <reisio> kostas: sudo dd if=path/to/installImage.iso of=/dev/sdf bs=1M
[10:47] <reisio> kostas: the of=/dev/sd?? is what you absolutely must get correct
[10:47] <kostas> reisio: what do you mean? when I create the bootable usb drive?
[10:47] <reisio> kostas: yes
[10:48] <reisio> kostas: where of=/dev/sd? is the USB drive to overwrite
[10:48] <ShootForTheHead> half of the time when i start my laptop, i have to power it off and start it hard once or twice before i get a log in screen
[10:48] <ShootForTheHead> ?
[10:48] <fujipompon> blazemore : yes I know hold on something else appears !
[10:48] <BrixSat> kaelter: ubuntu 64 bits solved :D :D 1980*1020 working nice
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> ShootForTheHead: have you tested your RAM using memtest from Grub?
[10:48] <reisio> kostas: /sbin/blkid should make it obvious which /dev/foo is the USB stick
[10:48] <kostas> reisio: let me just try that
[10:48] <ShootForTheHead> ActionParsnip: no but I will do that
[10:48] <kaelter> BrixSat: Excellent! I hope it works out better than debian did for you.
[10:49] <sobersabre> hi, I'm trying to follow: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto
[10:49] <sobersabre> I can successfully run wbinfo, but getent still doesn't look up stuff in AD.
[10:49] <sobersabre> I am on 13.04
[10:50] <john__> basics for kvm cluster
[10:50] <blazemore> john__: This isn't Google :)
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> sobersabre  type /join #ubuntu-server
[10:50] <john__> yes
[10:51] <john__> how to make it
[10:51] <blazemore> !kvm | john__
[10:51] <fujipompon> ActionParsnip : http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=fa6358a715c21f1c07aa21723ce8090478325c6c
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> john__  plenty tutorials, here's one http://blog.dsa-research.org/?p=41
[10:53] <john__>  <MonkeyDust> that link getting error
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> john__  odd, not here
[10:54] <antoine__> Hi, I'm about to install ubuntu 13.04 on a macbook pro 9.1. I'm following the instructions at http://randomtutor.blogspot.be/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-retina.html. I have already successfully install refind, burnt ubuntu iso and resized osw drive (I freed 50 Go on the hard drive). Now I have troubles to understand the next steps: th epage talks about moving around ubuntu kernel file... could one explain what it is said on this page? Thanks
[10:54] <john__> means what <monmkeyduts<
[10:55] <fujipompon> bluesKaj : I have pavucontrol installed it shows a spdif output and pretend to send signal through it but nothing comes out my HC Amp plugged in through toslink
[10:55] <zylinx> reisio, uploading screen cap
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> john__  are you sure you are skilled enough to create a KVM cluster?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> fujipompon: in future, use copy and paste, it removes user error
[10:55] <kostas> reisio: I just tried sudo dd if=/home/kostas/Downloads/ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso of=/media/disk-1 bs=1 and I get a warning that disk-1 is a directory
[10:55] <john__> yes i am already create kvm but i don't know how to clustering
[10:56] <Shadow}}> Curious if anyone can help me locate the source of why Firefox's spellchecker isn't working.
[10:56] <Shadow}}> Or if its just a security measure...
[10:56] <k1l> kostas: dd direct onto the device, not into a partition
[10:56] <fujipompon> Action Parrsing : OK i didn't catch at first i should paste the all command includung the http link... sorry
[10:56] <k1l> kostas: see: http://askubuntu.com/questions/59551/how-to-burn-iso-to-usb-device
[10:56] <kostas> k11: disk-1 should be the flash drive device, no?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> fujipompon: nice looking box, let me see if I can find any guides
[10:57] <llutz> kostas: you don't mount the device, just let dd write to it: dd of=/dev/sdX if=......       find out the correct sdX
[10:58] <babinlonston> ubuntu kernel: [  691.415217] init: vsftpd respawning too fast, stopped
[10:58] <k1l> kostas: /media/.... is a partition. /dev/sd... would be the device
[10:58] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, and you have alsmixer setup to "pcm out" option on the spdif options?
[10:58] <BluesKaj> err alsamixer
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> kostas  if means input file, of means output file, read this to get the basics https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DriveImaging#Backup_with_dd
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> fujipompon: is spdif muted in alsamixer >
[10:59] <Shadow}}> Whats the offtopic channel? >->
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> !ot
[10:59] <Shadow}}> Thank you.
[11:00] <fujipompon> blueskKaj ; I don't know how to switch that ?
[11:00] <mic__> hey everyone
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> fujipompon: try:  http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/628
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[11:01] <ActionParsnip> fujipompon: may need to set the snd-hda-intel model=3stack-6ch-dig
[11:01] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, with the up and down arrow keys
[11:01] <fujipompon> ActionParsing  : yes spidif appears in alsamixer but can't find a way to change the "0" (muted value)
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> fujipompon: http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/hardware/399451-no-sound-over-spdif-optical.html
[11:02] <Shadow}}> So, Anyone have any ideas why firefox's spellchecker isn't functioning; Xubuntu 13.04, FF Add-ons= SDC/Adblocker Plus
[11:03] <kostas> k11: how do I find what sd is my usb flash drive? /sbin/blkid ?
[11:03] <llutz> kostas: sudo parted -l
[11:03] <sobersabre> MonkeyDust: why do you think my q is better suitable on #ubuntu-server
[11:03] <k1l> kostas: "sudo fdisk -l"
[11:03] <k1l> or parted, or gdisk, iirc
[11:04] <sobersabre> I'm trying to join the domain as workstation, not as controller.
[11:04] <BluesKaj> fujipompon,  the M key
[11:04] <zylinx> can someone tell me why it says unavailable under my user name in the user menu in ubuntu gnome ?   screen cap [http://i.imgur.com/lh3gWuL.png]
[11:05] <john__> what isa drbe use in kvm cluster
[11:05] <kostas> k11: thanks
[11:05] <k1l> zylinx: that is your instantmessaging status
[11:05] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, the M key mutes with a M in the ctrls , use the arrow keys increase the volume
[11:05] <auronandace> zylinx: i think thats meant to be integrated with empathy (im)
[11:05] <k1l> zylinx: load empathy and change the status to get another status mentioned there
[11:05] <kostas> k11: I just sudo dd if=/home/kostas/Downloads/ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1 what should I expect next?
[11:06] <zylinx> k1l auronandace , thanks
[11:06] <k1l> kostas: wait for it be done
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> sobersabre  because of AD
[11:06] <llutz> kostas: you don't want to use bs=1
[11:06] <k1l> kostas: if it ends you can boot that stick
[11:06] <kostas> k11: thanks, should there be an indication when it ends?
[11:07] <k1l> kostas: when you get a prompt
[11:08] <anonymous_> salut
[11:08] <fujipompon> Everybody  : the links you provides seems greats but i feel quite shy about typing all those commands by myself : always scared to broke something , and find no way back
[11:10] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : OK GREAT ! Something comes out of spdif due to your commands in  tips in alsamixer !!!!
[11:11] <BluesKaj> ok fujipompon . now try a DD or DTS encoded movie , if you have one.
[11:11] <anonymous_> french ?
[11:11] <blazemore> !fr | anonymous_
[11:12] <anonymous_> thanks admin
[11:12] <blazemore> cfhowlett is here, I can go on lunch :)
[11:14] <cfhowlett> blazemore, LOL.  nah, stick around.  Only have 2 cylinders to work with tonight.
[11:14] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : Of course i do : It's THE main use I dedicate this PC to
[11:16] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, yes , but does the amp indicate DD or DTS on it's display when playing the encoded video/movie , that's the real test.
[11:16] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : DTS seems dowmixed to 2ch HC Amp doesn't get the  multichannel signal
[11:16] <anonymous_> j'ai besoin d'aide avec quelqu'un de FR car sur les autres seveurs, personne répond
[11:16] <blazemore> !fr | anonymous_
[11:16] <cfhowlett> !fr|anonymous_,
[11:17] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, which player are you using ?
[11:17] <anonymous_> I need help with someone because the other FR seveurs nobody answers
[11:17] <fujipompon> default one delivered with Ubuntu
[11:18] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : default one delivered with Ubuntu
[11:18] <cfhowlett> anonymous_, provide le details s'il vous plait
[11:19] <anonymous_> how can I change his nickname? because I have the official Anonymous operating system, and I know I change my nickname
[11:20] <Ben64> anonymous_: only ubuntu is supported here
[11:20] <k1l> anonymous_:  for irc: "/nick nickname" . but for support regarding the OS ask the anonymous support since this is plain ubuntu support in here
[11:21] <polka> hi, i cannot change screen resolution in ubuntu 13.04, when ever i do the monitor goes dead and the display never comes back cpu is on thou
[11:21] <anonymous_> but it is a system Linux OS Ubuntu Anonymous
[11:22] <k1l> anonymous_: if you want ubuntu support use ubuntu, and not another linux distribution. thats it
[11:22] <blazemore> anonymous_: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[11:22] <anonymous_> Therefore, it is forbidden?
[11:23] <k1l> anonymous_: its offtopic here
[11:23] <anonymous_> ok
[11:23] <polka> i cannot the change the resolution on ubuntu 13.04 plz help
[11:23] <babinlonston> Hi if im adding this line allow_writeable_chroot=YES in vsftpd conf file its not getting start
[11:24] <k1l> anonymous_: at least see the warnings about what is included in that distribution you use: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous-OS
[11:24] <bessy7> is it normal that ubuntu requests admin password to signal a problem?
[11:25] <blazemore> bessy7: Yes
[11:25] <k1l> bessy7: depends on the logs it wants to include
[11:26] <bessy7> blazemore: why does it need it? i mean why is the problem not signalled automatically?
[11:26] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, I recommend VLC for DD and DTS encoded playback , it's ver configurable and plays mostly any typw of video as well.
[11:26] <stanos_> w
[11:27]  * BluesKaj turns on the lights , suddenly very dark ...storm approaching
[11:27] <anonymous_> I know what I took, this is the goal ...
[11:28] <polka> can i set the resolution in some file so when ubuntu restarts it uses that display resolution?
[11:28] <mozillacrash> my mozilla always closing in irregular intervals , please help somebody
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> anonymous_: your OS support is on irc.anonops.li:6667 channel is called #opnewblood
[11:28] <polka> i cannot change the resolution from display settings because the screen goes dead (for ever)
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> anonymous_: your distro has its own support which I bet is microscopic
[11:30] <jake> Does Ubuntu support Updog?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> polka: what video chip are you using??
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> !info updog
[11:30] <blazemore> Guest2945: What's Updog?
[11:30] <bessy7> i really dont understand ubuntu already has control of the system ("you already trust us with root" as marcshuttleworth says it)... so why ask for password to get informed about a problem? why not just get the information automatically? i dont understand...
[11:31] <bessy7> i really dont understand .... ubuntu already has control of the system ("you already trust us with root" as marcshuttleworth says it)... so why ask for password to get informed about a problem? why not just get the information automatically? i dont understand...
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> bessy7: why paste it twice?
[11:31] <bessy7> ActionParsnip: i didnt separate the first sentence... thought it would make it clearer...
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> bessy7: you get asked for a credential if your user doesn't have access to what is required
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> bessy7  and basically, it's called security
[11:33] <k1l> bessy7: you are mixing up things
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> bessy7: I cannot find a single occurrence of "you already trust us with root"
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> bessy7  that other OS, from Redmond, does everything automatically, the result is that it is an unsafe system and a malware-magnet
[11:35] <k1l> bessy7: the point m.shuttleworth was refering is, that you need to trust  the distribution you use, because you install updates etc. that comes from them. that has nothing to do with the user needing root-rights to send logs to a bug report.
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> bessy7: what is you question?
[11:35] <polka> ActionParsnip am use Geforce 210 and the display driver it says is Gallium 0.4 on NVA8
[11:35] <polka> using*
[11:36] <auronandace> polka: installed mesa-utils?
[11:36] <Guest21087> installed mesa-utils
[11:38] <polka> auronandace: no i didn't
[11:38] <polka> what are those
[11:38] <bessy71> something's not working with pidgin
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> polka: if you run:   sudo lshw -C display    do you see an intel GPU too
[11:38] <bessy71> dfgd
[11:38] <bessy71> pidgin problem sorry...
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> bessy71: what is the issue
[11:39] <polka> no it doesn't say intel anywhere the output is GT218 [Geforce 210]
[11:39] <polka> nvidia corporation
[11:40] <polka> auronandace: what is mesa-utils ?
[11:40] <bessy71> ActionParsnip: dont know... i pressed enter but the message did not go....now it's ok though.... anyways, i was saying... still dont understand... ubuntu (canonical) has our root password... if a problem is detected, why not make things automatic? i mean the information is going to canonical, correct?
[11:40] <bessy71> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/09/24/ubuntu_amazon_suggestions/
[11:40] <auronandace> !info mesa-utils | polka
[11:40] <k1l> bessy71: better come to #ubuntu-discuss for that topic since its no support topic
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> bessy71  take that question to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[11:41] <bessy71> MonkeyDust: but if the information is going to canonical and only to canonical....
[11:41] <k1l> bessy71: your are stating things wrong
[11:41] <killer> hey
[11:42] <blazemore> !details | bessy71 what's wrong with Pidgn?
[11:42] <auronandace> bessy71: your password for sudo is the one you set at install (no one has it)
[11:42] <killer> I have 2 versions of linux kernel installed and I want to delete one how can I achieve this
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> bessy71: there is no root password to have
[11:42] <auronandace> killer: use synaptic to uninstall it
[11:42] <k1l> bessy71: and again: canonical doest have your root password. that is just FUD
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> bessy71: the account is disabled by default
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> bessy71  if the means weren't safe, thay wouldnt exist anymore
[11:42] <blazemore> killer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/88936/how-to-remove-old-kernel-versions-automatically
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> bessy71: so NOBODY can get access via the account as the account is disabled
[11:43] <bessy71> pidgin is ok now.. so let's forget about that....
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> bessy71: Amazon stuff is nothing to do with your root account in any way
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> bessy71: if you uninstall the shopping lens package you wont get the amazon results
[11:44] <bessy71> this is Mark S: We are not telling Amazon what you are searching for. Your anonymity is preserved because we handle the query on your behalf. Don’t trust us? Erm, we have root. You do trust us with your data already. You trust us not to screw up on your machine with every update.
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> bessy71  you're not in the right channel for that kind of question
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> bessy71: that sthe same with any OS, updates can screw up OSes
[11:44] <blazemore> bessy71: PLEASE go to #ubuntu-offtopic, discussion is fine there
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> bessy71: there was an update last year which killed network access, from Microsoft
[11:45] <k1l> bessy71: i muted you because i told you twice now that this is a support channel and your topic belongs to #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> bessy71: basically, you dont know what you are talking about]
[11:45] <cfhowlett> bessy71, if you have an actual support query, please ask.  otherwise, continue this conversation in #ubuntu-offtopic.  Final thought: don't like unity?  don't use it.  Log out.  choose  a different desktop environment.  login.  fixed.
[11:47] <Wezy> Ola bruda
[11:48] <killer> ok, I habe got 3.8.0-27 and -23 kernel installed.What I want is to boot 3.8.0-23 kernel by default and not 27
[11:48] <killer> habe ->have
[11:49] <blazemore> killer: Have you considered just uninstalling the -27 kernel?
[11:49] <lazytaters> use synaptic package manager to uninstall the -27 kernel
[11:51] <babinlonston> Hey no one helping here man asking same Question several times
[11:52] <auronandace> babinlonston: you just joined
[11:52] <cfhowlett> babinlonston, that happens sometimes.  use the forums instead for a different set of answers.
[11:52] <saschagehlich> hey, i managed to install ubuntu on my new laptop, but it won't find any bluetooth devices. i already tried installing linux-firmware-nonfree etc. but without success...
[11:52] <BluesKaj> babinlonston, i don't see your question on scrollback
[11:52] <babinlonston> auronandace: from morning itself im coming here and im asked several times but no one given the solution :|
[11:53] <jpmh> how do I scan for other computers on my network?
[11:53] <cfhowlett> babinlonston, you could always try paid support directly from canonical.
[11:53] <auronandace> babinlonston: how long did you wait for an answer? (more inportantly what is your question)
[11:53] <DJones> babinlonston: That will normally mean that there isn't somebody around that knows the answer, or they haven't seen your question
[11:54] <histo> babinlonston: have you restarted vsftpd after chaning that setting?
[11:55] <babinlonston> auronandace: Installed vsftpd and its configured , its configured for local user and local user dont want to access other folder or files except his home directory .. thats my issue and many time i asked here all giving solution and its not working
[11:55] <babinlonston> histo: u here ..:) yes i did morning to now im trying trying but cant :(
[11:56] <Andrey__> Good morning people :)   Hey i made a truecrypt HDD, like encryt the whole thing.... but im pretty sure.. or.. i AM sure, that i formated it to ext2/3... soooooo... how the holy h*** do i make it open on the other windows computer? :(
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Andrey__: you can't, Ext4 is not readable by Windows
[11:56] <babinlonston> histo: sysadmin user want to access his home folder .. he want to write files and read files in ftp .. other than his home folder i don't want to even see ...
[11:56] <Andrey__> ActionParsnip: so, no program or anything can help me out?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Andrey__: Ext2Read may make it work, read access only
[11:57] <histo> Andrey__: first you'd have to unencrypt then use a fsdriver to read the ext3 partition
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Andrey__: Windows has access to very few filesystems
[11:57] <Andrey__> histo:  fsdriver.. alright, i will try :D
[11:57] <histo> Andrey__: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[11:57] <Andrey__> ActionParsnip:  alright... damnit , ill try histo's thingie first
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Andrey__: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/08/access-ext4-ext3-or-ext2-partitions-in.html
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Andrey__: in short, your Windows OS sucks
[11:58] <Andrey__> ActionParsnip: yeah i know that it does, i prefer linux but... school computers and awful helpdesk guys :E
[11:58] <Andrey__> thank you guys :)
[11:58] <babinlonston> histo: now user sysadmin can access every folder .. how to redirect him to only his home folder .. really its easy in RHEL :) but ubuntu :'( making some Quarrel
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> Andrey__: then you'll want to use NTFS
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> Andrey__: to accommodate Windows
[11:59] <killer> I removed the kernel using "sudo apt-get purge linux-headers-3.8.0-27 linux-headers-3.8.0-27-generic linux-image-extra-3.8.0-27-generic" but It still loads 3.8.0-27 kernel and I have to manually load 23 version
[11:59] <histo> !vsftpd | babinlonston
[11:59] <killer> obviously 27 version doesn't loads
[11:59] <killer> .27
[11:59] <histo> babinlonston: /join #vsftpd
[11:59] <babinlonston> histo:  i want to setup ftp server in my vps , and client dont want to access other folder except his home directory thats my need
[12:00] <babinlonston> k
[12:00] <marks> Hi, I have a question, I installed nginx from the ubuntu default packages, then I upgraded nginx to latest release 1.4.2 .. when I upgraded nginx, a team member said that we should delete /etc/nginx files so that the upgrade does not leave old default nginx configuratoin.. is there any sense doing that?
[12:01] <auronandace> marks: yes it makes sense, and just so you know we won't be able to support you if you are using software from outside the repos
[12:03] <killer> I removed the kernel using "sudo apt-get purge linux-headers-3.8.0-27 linux-headers-3.8.0-27-generic linux-image-extra-3.8.0-27-generic" but It still loads 3.8.0-27 kernel and I have to manually load 23 version
[12:04] <ceipro> всем привет
[12:04] <cfhowlett> !ru|ceipro,
[12:04] <marks> auronandace: no the upgrade was using apt-get
[12:04] <marks> auronandace: so apt-get does not handle that right?
[12:05] <auronandace> marks: if you added a repo before using apt-get then you are using software outside the repo
[12:05] <BlackFate> hello! could someone please do a "dpkg --get-selections | grep grub" and paste it somewhere? thanks
[12:05] <auronandace> marks: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[12:05] <marks> auronandace: 12.04
[12:05] <blazemore> BlackFate: http://rory.sh/grub
[12:05] <auronandace> !info nginx precise | marks
[12:06] <BlackFate> blazemore, version? 12.04?
[12:06] <raub> If I am installing 13.04 in a laptop, can I encrypt the entire drive 9/boot included) or should I have /boot outside the encrypted partition?
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> BlackFate  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5954794/
[12:06] <BlackFate> is that 13.04 MonkeyDust
[12:06] <auronandace> marks: you must have added a repo to use a newer nginx
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> BlackFate  yes
[12:06] <babinlonston> histo: in vsftpd room all sleeping i think , even more than 14 days the ids are in idle ...
[12:06] <marks> auronandace: yes correct
[12:07] <BlackFate> MonkeyDust, thanks
[12:07] <auronandace> marks: then we can't support you
[12:07] <BlackFate> thanks all
[12:07] <marks> auronandace: But I thought the package manager will change any new default files changed in /etc/nginx
[12:07] <marks> auronandace: since I used the package manager in both cases
[12:07] <kostas> k1l: still trying to get the iso file in the flash drive. Is there any estimate of how long does it usually take?
[12:08] <auronandace> marks: i don't know the differences between those version to tell you what should happen
[12:08] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : still around ?
[12:09] <auronandace> marks: you'll need to consult nginx documentation to know if there is any conflict with config files between those versions
[12:10] <karthik__> hello gud eve i want install ubuntu can u guide me
[12:10] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : Vlc installed making few tests : 5.1 properly decoded by HCAmp, But the reading is quite fragile
[12:10] <auronandace> !install | karthik__
[12:10] <cfhowlett> karthik__, full instructions at www.ubuntu.com
[12:10] <karthik__> hello gud eve i want install lamp server can u guide me
[12:11] <cfhowlett> !lamp|karthik__,
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> karthik__  are you familiar with servers?
[12:11]  * cfhowlett ... suspects troll in progress ...
[12:11] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : I think I don't have the rights parameters, tryed a few, but can't find something stable
[12:11] <Vivekananda> hello everyone. could anyone help me troubleshoot printer woes in guest ubuntu host win7. I installed the printer drivers for brother HL2270dw in ubuntu. vbox says it is connected via usb. On printing 1 page of a pdf it prints the page but keeps on cycling through all paper in the tray and after that signals error
[12:12] <cfhowlett> Vivek, try a different document
[12:13] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : do you thik it would make any good to uninstall extra stuff like "pavuontrol"
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[12:15] <Vivekananda> cfhowlett: I dont see any queued items in the print queue but if I reset the power button it will again start cycling through !!:(
[12:15] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : seems like a lot of controllers tryed to set up stuff  within audio controller, maybe they fight against each other ?
[12:15] <cfhowlett> Vivekananda, that sounds suspiciously like a hardware issue ...
[12:16] <linae> agreed cfhowlett, vivek check the print queue *within* the printer
[12:16] <linae> ie see if there are any queued jobs inside the printer
[12:16] <ggz> hi
[12:16] <cfhowlett> ggz, greetings
[12:17] <Vivekananda> cfhowlett: there was no issue when windows 7 ( the host) was using it
[12:17] <ggz> what is the fastest between usb key and usb hard drive (not ssd) ?
[12:17] <Vivekananda> it worked perfectly!
[12:17] <blazemore> !ot | ggz
[12:17] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, are you on 13.04 ?
[12:17] <ggz> blazemore: it's for installing ubuntu =)
[12:18] <Vivekananda> cfhowlett: I used the first tut given here http://askubuntu.com/questions/226307/how-to-install-a-brother-hl2270dw-laser-printer
[12:18] <blazemore> ggz: They'll likely be the same since it's likely going to be  limited by the speed of the USB2 bus rather than the speed of the storage
[12:18] <cfhowlett> ggz, so you're comparing USB stick vs. SSD installation?
[12:18] <Vivekananda> I said no to device url
[12:18] <ggz> cfhowlett: no, a regular harddrive, not ssd
[12:18] <Vivekananda> should I have said yes ?
[12:19] <cfhowlett> Vivekananda, hardware support on virtualbox is always something of a crapshoot.  Try the option and see.
[12:20] <ggz> blazemore: thanks, do you think it's a bad idea to install ubuntu on a usb key, since there is a limited number of write operation on a usb key ? how long do you think it could last ?
[12:21] <blazemore> ggz: I think you'd be much better off installing on your hard drive
[12:21] <cfhowlett> ggz, USB key installation should be your LAST option ...
[12:21] <fidel> ggz: besides the write-limitations - i guess it might be a slow-experience as well
[12:22] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed , you'll need that
[12:22] <Vivekananda> cfhowlett: I am trying to use cups to locate and add the printer
[12:22] <Vivekananda> but the model list for brother does not have my printer
[12:22] <Vivekananda> ie 2270
[12:22] <Vivekananda> what should I do about that
[12:23] <cfhowlett> Vivekananda, go for a close relative of that model but a lower number .  2260 ?
[12:23] <cfhowlett> Vivekananda, also, see if you've got something like "generic" available.
[12:24] <Vivekananda> so I have either -- hl-2170W Foomatic or I have hl 2400-Cen Foomatic ..
[12:24] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : yes I'm on 13.04 64B but I don't know what a restricted extras are ?
[12:24] <cfhowlett> Vivekananda, try em both!  It's free and it'll only take a few minutes to test
[12:24] <ggz> i don't have a hard drive for now, i think i will test ubuntu install on the usb key, if it's too slow or the usb key die, i will buy a hard drive
[12:25] <cfhowlett> ggz decent enough plan.
[12:25] <blazemore> Vivekananda: wget http://rory.sh/printinstall.sh; sudo sh printinstall.sh
[12:25] <BluesKaj> !ubuntu-restricted-extras | fujipompon
[12:25] <Vivekananda> cfhowlett: one thing confuses me. Should I configure the printer to be a usb device on the vbox or should I configure cups to look for it via the url ?
[12:26] <Vivekananda> blazemore: I already followed this tutorial http://askubuntu.com/questions/226307/how-to-install-a-brother-hl2270dw-laser-printer
[12:26] <Vivekananda> I want to undo that before trying your change. Shouldn't I ?
[12:27] <cfhowlett> Vivekananda, the preference would be for VBox to make the link, but as I said ... crap shoot.  I see a lot of experimenting in your future.  Course you COULD just install dual boot ubuntu and bypass all the vbox madness.  Try this: make a usb/cdrom.  Boot.  Set up your printer.  I BET it works natively with ubuntu.
[12:28] <Vivekananda> cfhowlett: then why should I not go the url route ?
[12:28] <das> Hello. I have a Radeon HD 5450 videocard with 1 VGA, 1 HDMI and 1 DVI port. I tried to activate 3 screens but did not succeed. At first I thought that HDMI and DVI were muxed, but I manage to have the two running at the same time. Any ideas ?
[12:28] <cfhowlett> Vivekananda, try everything is my stance.
[12:28] <blazemore> das: Does it even support triple-monitors?
[12:29] <das> blazemore: one of my colleague has a similar model I was told, and it works. Not sure ours are identical though it's the standard that they give here
[12:30] <fujipompon> BluesKaj :Not shure to understand : vlc uses is own codecs so I'm don't have to worry about installing codecs inside the system, right ?
[12:31] <zykotick9> fujipompon: you are correct, VLC doesn't use external codecs.
[12:31] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : or vlc works differtly inside Ubuntu than W7 ?
[12:31] <afflicto> Hey all. I need to help a friend of mine via VNC but he is behind a router without access to port forward. Can we use remmina with a port that's open by default on most routers?
[12:32] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : differently i meant..
[12:33] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : Would you enjoy to search inside my machine directly through a soft like teamviewer ?
[12:34] <blazemore> afflicto: You still need to forward the port to his machine behind the gateway
[12:34] <afflicto> blazemore: hm ok
[12:35] <afflicto> blazemore: how does teamviewer work tho? we are able to use that. it's just.. teamviewer is buggy :P
[12:35] <johnmike> Hello. I'm new to Ubuntu and Linux is general. I tried to install the latest Scala today, but I got Scala 2.9. I tried update, upgrade etc, but I still seem suck on old Scala. Is this right? How come the latest Ubuntu includes an obsolete version of Scala?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> fujipompon: vlc doesnt share codecs, not great imho
[12:35] <zykotick9> !latest | johnmike
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> johnmike: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[12:36] <johnmike> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.04
[12:36] <cfhowlett> johnmike, sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade might bring you up to date.  If not, talk to the scala maintainers.
[12:36] <johnmike> ubottu: where should I go if I always want latest - I'm not too worried about stability
[12:36] <randomaussie> good eveing ubuntuers...
[12:36] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, I'ts just an old habit of mine to install the restricted extras for other uses , you don't need restricted -extras to if you use VLC exclusively
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> johnmike: the latest stable is 2.10, so 2.9 is hardly obsolete
[12:37] <johnmike> ActionParsnip: should I just install it from a binary build in my home directory then?
[12:37] <bananasdoom> anyone know if you can get the updated unity for ubuntu 13.04 and stay in 12.04
[12:37] <cfhowlett> johnmike, if you just can't wait to get it, build your own from source ...
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> johnmike: its also available on the scala website for download http://www.scala-lang.org/download/
[12:37] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : I like XBMC too, tried it but unable to play multichannel through spdif
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> johnmike: its not obsolete in any way
[12:38] <randomaussie> i'm trying to make a program in the startup applications load with sudo/root priverlidges... having alot of difficulty and i dont understand /etc/sudoers
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> johnmike: just because its not bang up to date doesnt make it obsolete
[12:38] <blazemore> !details | randomaussie
[12:39] <johnmike> ActionParsnip: is there a Linux distro, or Ubuntu variant that strives to always be latest? For example I love on my mac that when Scala 2.10 came out, that hour I could install the new version using the homebrew package manager.
[12:39] <randomaussie> trying to make bumblebee-ui load with root priverlidges so it can auto optirun stuff for me
[12:39] <bananasdoom> so I am going to bump this.... anyone know if you can get the updated unity for ubuntu 13.04 and stay in 12.04
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> johnmike: you could submit a bug suggesting why the new version shoud be pushed out. If there are significant improvements, security and bug fixes it will be updated
[12:40] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, not all movies are 5.1 or  higher , some are DD but only dual channel ...xbmc is ok , but it tries to do too much IMO , I prefer to control my sources
[12:40] <blazemore> !backports | bananasdoom
[12:40] <bananasdoom> ubottu: Thanks! :D
[12:40] <johnmike> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[12:40] <fujipompon> what  do U think 'vout this idea typed before , Shouldn't uninstall some stuff to simplify audio control ? BluesKaj : seems like a lot of controllers tryed to set up stuff  within audio controller, maybe they fight against each other ?
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> johnmike: http://osgux.tumblr.com/post/44635945407/install-scala-2-10-0-in-ubuntu  found that in no time at all
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> johnmike: went to google and searched for: Scala 2.10 ubuntu
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> johnmike: top link.....
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> johnmike: I assume you have seen that page....yes?
[12:42] <johnmike> ActionParsnip: yeah I know how to install from a binary - I said that was an option - but it's nice to work with the package manager rather than against it
[12:42] <johnmike> ActionParsnip: won't apt throw a fit when it sees I've changed files it installed behind it's back?
[12:42] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : I don't catch on what IMO means
[12:43] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, unfortunately idon't run unity/gnome , so my knowledge about the audio controller is rather limited ,. but afaik it works well with alsa, pulseaudio (pavucontrol) , doubt very much there's any conflict
[12:44] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, IMO  = In My Opinion
[12:46] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : my problem with vlc playing 5.1 (DTS + DD are ok both)
[12:47] <yodamoppet> hello
[12:49] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, I don't understand
[12:49] <fujipompon> BluesKaj :  First I have an error message : the audio peripherical « iec958:AES0=0x2,AES1=0x82,AES2=0x0,AES3=0x2 » can't be used :
[12:49] <fujipompon>  Peripherical or ressourse occupy
[12:51] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, in VLC ?
[12:51] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : But it reads anyway  in 5.1
[12:51] <BluesKaj> 5.1 what tho ?
[12:51] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : Yes ! in VLC
[12:52] <fujipompon> And then every thing is ok as long as I don't touch any controls
[12:53] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, you should be able to control the volume in VLC
[12:54] <fujipompon> If I scroll the mouse : as soon as the volume raise or down the 100% value : a "pink noise" comes out loud out of all the 5.1 speakers...
[12:55] <Vivekananda> now another problem. I ran update on 12.04 fresh install and I was getting 1600 900 resolution earlier (after vbox extras install right after ubuntu install) but now I am not getting it. The window has shrunk. Also I lost the vbox top bar and the bottom bar too for the ubuntu
[12:55] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : and normal sound comes back as soon as I come back to 100%
[12:55] <Vivekananda> should I just quit ubuntu :(
[12:56] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, that's odd
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: up to you
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: tried the 2D session from the login screen?
[12:57] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : also As soon as I use the skip command (file  as chapters) picture and sound get unsync
[12:57] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, is the VLC audio output setting set to your intel-hda ?
[12:58] <fujipompon> that's THE question !
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> fujipompon: have you tried other apps that make sound?
[12:59] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: I had the thing working before I installed updates
[13:00] <Vivekananda> why would the updates ruin things ?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: well now it doesnt so you need to explore the issue
[13:00] <Vivekananda> btw where is the 2D ?
[13:00] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, open VLC >tools>preferences>audio ,, then choose the alsa audio output module , and the device as the intel audio
[13:00] <fujipompon> output module is alsa output, and the "uses spdif if possible" is marked
[13:01] <BluesKaj> yes , make sure the device is the intel
[13:02] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : ok for output module, on alsa, but then under device I have at least 20 choices possible !!!
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: you select it from the login sceen
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: its better for VMs ni a way that it uses fewer resources so will impact the host less
[13:04] <jacks_cool> Hello! Getting a black screen with cursor blinking on startup! Ubuntu 12.04 LTS!
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> jacks_cool: what GPU do you use?
[13:05] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, choose , IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio output
[13:05] <jacks_cool> ActionParsnip: ATI
[13:05] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: again , that was working right before an update install. but if you said something that I missed please elaborate. Also the guest key + c was set to scaling for vbox. earlier I had scaling enabled and was getting the top and bottom bars. now I see that on disabling it I can see them but then with no scalinng the vbox covers only half of the screen :(
[13:05] <empt> Hi, i'm using kubuntu desktop and right now i was working with xfig and pressed meta+s now everything on my desktop is gone!! my background, widgets all gone! plz help :(
[13:06] <jacks_cool> ActionParsnip: I installed graphics driver few weeks back. It was working fine. Don't know what's going wrong today!
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> jacks_cool: tried the boot option: nomodeset
[13:06] <jacks_cool> replac quite splash with nomodeset?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> jacks_cool: its a kernel boot option to set
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: if the 2D session works then we know he 3D has been knocked out in some way
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: we can then focus efforts there, at present we know nothing and simply bleating "it used to work" achieves nothing
[13:09] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : OK done !
[13:10] <empt> Hi, i'm using kubuntu desktop and right now i was working with xfig and pressed meta+s now everything on my desktop is gone!! my background, widgets all gone! plz help :(
[13:10] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: well hmmm. I tried the host+c and as I said I got the virtualbox menu (on top ) back. my ubuntu is a guest on win 7 host via vbox
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: could try:  unity --replace
[13:12] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : exact name "HDA Intel MID, ALC662 rev1 Digital IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output"
[13:12] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, looks correct , ..it is correct if it works for you :)
[13:13] <Slugze> hello, say anyone is using synergy around here?  Got a lil problem, 2 stations, both on ubuntu 13.04, each having a mouse attached (- usb -) When i'm using mouse1 on pc1, the back / forward is doing perfect, same for mouse2/pc2 .  But when i'm doing mouse1(server)pc2(client) the backforwar button of the mouse is doing a "slide left and right" ( using per exemple firefox ) .  So i'm wondering if theres a quickfix for that ?
[13:15] <fujipompon> yes but with the fragilities : error message + touchy volume level + soud and video decay as evocated higher
[13:15] <Vivekananda> when I stretch 2D with scaling disabled then the desktop screen is only a in the middle of the elongated window. when I enable scaling then it also increases in size but the bottom goes out of of the screen
[13:16] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : yes but with the fragilities : error message + touchy volume level + soud and video decay as evocated above
[13:17] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : the multiple choices of device : that what makes me think of conflicts between the differents "audio controlers, mapers , etc....
[13:18] <elixir> Hi, my laptop turned off due to dischargin, and after restart, I can;t connect to the wifi network I was connected to. I shows error  "Activation of network connection failed" :-( Can someone please help me!
[13:19] <fujipompon> Let's have a try  ! can you show me the command line to uninstall pavucontrol for example ?
[13:19] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : Let's have a try  ! can you show me the command line to uninstall pavucontrol for example ?
[13:19] <elixir> fujipompom: me?
[13:19] <elixir> Ok.
[13:20] <fujipompon> sorry that was for BluesKaj :
[13:20] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: was it sudo unity --replace ?
[13:20] <Walex> elixir: too few details.
[13:20] <jacks_cool> ActionParsnip: thanks it works! now I have saved that settings permanently.
[13:20] <elixir> I am pretty new to ubuntu, and can't find out which comand to try
[13:21] <fujipompon> elixir : sorry that was for BluesKaj :
[13:21] <ikonia> elixir: reboot your laptop and it will probably come back to life
[13:21] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, not to worry , there's no conflict despite your concerns
[13:22] <elixir> Walex, ikonia: Ubuntu 12.10, i5 4gb ram and what else.. ? I tried rebooting many times and tried certain commands too...but none helped
[13:22] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, most users need pavucontrol/pulseaudio for webaudio (mostly flash)
[13:22] <Walex> elixir: if you have a wifi problem, you should be listing which APs are being listed as accessible etc.
[13:23] <elixir> Walex: ifconfig says: http://pastebin.com/uUF0sWJw and I am currently connected using a hotspot from mobile
[13:23] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : By the way :  other audio apps like RhythmBox still works fine through spdif , sending stereo signal
[13:24] <elixir> Walex: sorry, I have less idea how to list them, can you please tell me the command so that I can pastebin them?
[13:25] <BluesKaj>  fujipompon  yes of course , with pcm ,that's expected
[13:27] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : intresting clue : I must competly shut down RhythmBox otherwise VLC can't play any sound ! As long as Rhythm is on , even on pause !
[13:27] <Petreanko> hello al
[13:27] <Petreanko> all*
[13:27] <Petreanko> A quick question not sure if I am in the right room.... Whats the diff between ubuntu 12.04 and ubuntu 13.04.... in the website it says long time support for 12.04 but 13.04 is up to date and support only till jan next year... so wouldnt 12.04 get any updates that 13.04 get?
[13:27] <FloodBot1> Petreanko: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: without the sudo, yes
[13:28] <elixir> Walex: ?
[13:28] <elixir> or can someone else take up the initiative to help me please?
[13:29] <Petreanko> can someone help me with choosing ubuntu version to download and try
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> Petreanko  12.04 if you want ling support, 13.04 if you want the latest stuff
[13:30] <OerHeks> Petreanko, the LTS provides stable tested packages, 13.04 has newer packages with functionality, both get security updates. i would suggest try 13.04
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> long*
[13:30] <Petreanko> @monkeydust Thank you
[13:31] <Petreanko> @0erheks Thank you, so will I get updates past jan 2014 if I use 13.04 or will have to choose to reinstall later?
[13:32] <OerHeks> Petreanko, no, updates will stop when the support is over.
[13:32] <vishnu_> Does anyone used python desktop enviroment?
[13:34] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : fundamental question : do you think it could be easier to find stable  soluces at my troubles under a LTS version of Ubuntu like 12.04 ???
[13:34] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: it is the stupid vbox
[13:34] <Walex> elisa87: how to list Wifi depends on which WiFi configuration system you are using
[13:34] <Petreanko> @0erHeks one last question ... If I chose 12.04 I still can install latest software and update them when a new update is available right?
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> vishnu_  python is a programming code, not a desktop environment
[13:34] <sanman> Petreanko, after support runs out on 13.04 you will be able to upgrade to the next version
[13:34] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, no
[13:34] <Vivekananda> I tried doing and undoing a couple of times and restarting the machine and voila got back the 1600 and 900 , figure!!
[13:34] <arc__> hello i can't get back into ubuntu
[13:34] <arc__> i can't do grub-install for somereason
[13:34] <arc__> it ask's if /dev is mounted
[13:35] <Petreanko> @sanman Thanks for clarifying I thought I might have to ditch it and start over again
[13:35] <Vivekananda> now onto printer woes
[13:35] <OerHeks> Petreanko, sure, you will get updates, but not newer versions of packages (functionality), else you need to upgrade
[13:35] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, you have to make sure the settings in pavucontrol are the same outputs as in VLC and the audio controller
[13:35] <sanman> Petreanko, as for the LTS versions, typically you will not see new versions of packages pushed into LTS
[13:35] <sanman> Petreanko, you will see bug fixes and security updates, not really new functionality
[13:36] <Petreanko> @0erheks Thank you
[13:36] <vishnu_> Yaa Buddy it is programming language but "I am talking about Qtile"  its a Window manager written in python
[13:37] <Petreanko> @sanman okay. so 13.04 would be a wise choice here?
[13:37] <kostas> can anyone help with this? I just istalled ubuntu 12.4 on a laptop. After the installation I got a prompt to remove the installation media and press enter. I did so and got to a blank screen with a cursos. The computer does not boot up 12.4, just goes blank. Any ideas?
[13:37] <sanman> Petreanko, most people go with the non-LTS versions because they like to get new features, I myself run some machines at LTS and some on the regular releases
[13:38] <fujipompon> Other basic question : at the begining of my research  I thought  maybe 13.04 didn't choose the proper driver ! Every body says NO WAy ! How come there's not possible anymore to try differents drivers for a device to find the est one ???
[13:38] <sanman> Petreanko, it all depends on what you want
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> vishnu_  so it's qtile, not python, and it's a window manager, not a desktop environment
[13:38] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : On my way to check out pavucontrol
[13:38] <sanman> Petreanko, for a desktop machine you can probably go 13.04
[13:39] <Slugze> kostas,  you're sure you installed grub?
[13:39] <Petreanko> @sanman sorry to keep spamming you with questions... please suggest me here my use would be most for 3d and graphics design.. softwares I use would be blender, gimp, mypaint and krita othen than that libreoffice and use internet
[13:39] <vishnu_> ok sry.... thanx. i am getting trouble in installing it
[13:39] <sanman> Petreanko, if you want a stable server that's going to get security updates for years to come go with LTS
[13:39] <sanman> Petreanko, go with 13.04, you'll probably be happier with that decision
[13:39] <kostas> Slugze: grub?
[13:40] <Petreanko> @sanman Thank you very much for your time and patience..I appreciate it
[13:40] <sanman> Petreanko, you're welcome
[13:40] <Petreanko> @sanman :)
[13:40] <vishnu_> on startup where we enter our username  and password.. there is tab which allows u to run unity 2d or in 3d mode , its also listing Qtile too but when logged in,, nothing happend
[13:41] <airportyh> Hello all, I tried installing ubuntu 13.04 side-by-side with windows 7, and messed up the boot sector, need some advise as to how to proceed
[13:41] <fujipompon>  BluesKaj :  Other basic question : at the begining of my research  I thought  maybe 13.04 didn't choose the proper driver ! Every body says NO WAy ! How come there's not possible anymore to try differents drivers for a device to find the est one ???
[13:41] <elixir> Walex: I tried rfkill from this link http://askubuntu.com/questions/189836/unable-to-connect-to-wifi-network-after-updates, still a fail
[13:42] <Petreanko> @sanman one more question if I may ask
[13:42] <vishnu_> no i thing... boot configs are managed by GRUB no extra drivers needed
[13:42] <User928> stu "d!ckless" lantz betrays all; trannys + queers(chaste Homos/a$$holes), rule; patrick mason o'neal > pam neal?/, andrea hylton/trannys
[13:42] <Wulframn> Airportyh, it won't boot at all?
[13:43] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : Oh by the way have you check out out my config at : http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=fa6358a715c21f1c07aa21723ce8090478325c6c
[13:43] <kostas> any idea of how to proceed now?
[13:44] <roadie> good evening
[13:44] <Petreanko> I see ubuntustudio 13.04 this would just be more tailored pre installed packages right? its still same as ubuntu13.04 but with more packages am I right?
[13:44] <Petreanko> @sanman I see ubuntustudio 13.04 this would just be more tailored pre installed packages right? its still same as ubuntu13.04 but with more packages am I right?
[13:44] <airportyh> Wulframn: correct
[13:44] <roadie> do I need to install any dev-tools in ubuntu to write c++ code? not IDEs just the libraries, compilers and whatnot.
[13:44] <Wulframn> airportyh, do you have system rescue cd or another live environment?
[13:45] <airportyh> Wulframn: I think it can be repaired with a windows 7 disk, but I need to get one from my IT dept
[13:45] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, the snd-hda-intel driver works well. Open a terminal do , sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , just to be sure ...there will be no text output in the terminal if it's properly loaded
[13:45] <airportyh> Wulframn: I don't have another linux machine atm
[13:46] <airportyh> Wulframn: but I would like to know, where it went wrong during the install process
[13:46] <Wulframn> Grub won't boot or just Windows?
[13:46] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : in pavucontrol the device used seems the same than in  VLC not exactly the same "spelling" but seems to aims at teh same target
[13:46] <airportyh> Wulframn: no grub
[13:46] <airportyh> Wulframn: but I think that's because I installed it wrong
[13:47] <Wulframn> Ah, I see.
[13:47] <kostas> can anyone help with this? I just istalled ubuntu 12.4 on a laptop. After the installation I got a prompt to remove the installation media and press enter. I did so and got to a blank screen with a cursos. The computer does not boot up 12.4, just goes blank. Any ideas?
[13:47] <airportyh> Wulframn: first of all, the ubuntu installer didn't detect any OS, which was odd
[13:47] <Petreanko> one quick question... the difference between ubuntustudio13.04 and ubuntu 13.04 would just be the pre installed softwares tailored for studios or is it anything else?
[13:48] <ikonia> Petreanko: different desktop
[13:48] <domingo> buen dia
[13:48] <airportyh> Wulframn: so I had to manually partition - and I don't think I did it right
[13:48] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : OK : sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel doesn't returns anything !
[13:48] <BluesKaj> good
[13:49] <Wulframn> airportyh, I'm on my phone. Let me jump over to my computer. I'll be back in a moment.
[13:49] <airportyh> Wulframn: no problem
[13:49] <ar15nut> exit
[13:50] <kostas> is there any reason I cannot boot the usb live flash drive after installing 12.04?
[13:51] <Eduard_Munteanu> How do you restart the networking service, such that all settings are reinitialized to stuff in /etc/network/interfaces? "restart networking" says "restart: Unknown instance:"
[13:51] <elixir> How can I find  propietary BCM driver there. in additional drivers in Ubuntu 12.10
[13:51] <elixir> ?
[13:51] <chiques> Did they ever find out 'how' the Ubuntu Forums got hacked into? Was it human stupidity or a vulnerability in Ubuntu?
[13:52] <lolcat> chiques: they forgot their windows updates
[13:52] <Pici> chiques: it was password policies on the forums themselves, nothing to do with Ubuntu itself.
[13:53] <DenBeiren> hi all,.. i'm running on a "full" boot partition,..can i remove some kernels? if zo, lowest versions are the oldest?
[13:53] <kostas> can anyone help with this? I just istalled 12.04 on a laptop but I cannot boot it at all
[13:53] <chiques> lolcat, they don't run Ubuntu Servers?
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> DenBeiren  ubuntu-tweak is a nice gui to delete old kernels http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[13:54] <Pici> chiques: Hes joking. See http://blog.canonical.com/2013/07/30/ubuntu-forums-are-back-up-and-a-post-mortem/ for a full breakdown.
[13:55] <chiques> Pici, I'll check it. Thanks
[13:55] <DenBeiren> MonkeyDust, it's a server, so no gui :s
[13:56] <ezrafree> hello, is there any shorthand to use to echo the name of the most recent file in the current directory?
[13:57] <kostas> can anyone help with this? I just istalled 12.04 on a laptop but I cannot boot it at all. I just get a blank screen
[13:57] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : must leave now : thousands of thannks for your kind and precious help !
[13:57] <k1l> !nomodeset | kostas
[13:58] <blazemore> ezrafree: ls -lt | head -n 2 | tail -n 1 | awk '{print $NF}'
[13:58] <kostas> k1l: thanks let me have a look
[13:59] <blazemore> If anyone can condense "head -n 2 | tail -n 1" now is the time
[13:59] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, you are welcome :)
[13:59] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : Just wondering what is your location , in the idea to get in touch again another time
[13:59] <Vivekananda> hey everyone i used vbox as guest with ubuntu in it on windows host win 7. I am tryiing to install a server on the virtual guest. one of the primary app requirements is printing but my vbox usb goes to sleep and no print emerges. manual power cycle or quick reset of the printer solves the problem. suggestions ?
[13:59] <Vivekananda> ubuntu 12.04 printer brother hl 2270dw
[14:00] <DenBeiren> oops, had a dc
[14:00] <BluesKaj> fujipompon, this a good a place as any , I'm usually here at this time of day
[14:00] <kostas> k1l: thanks. I cannot see how I can do any of these. I do not have access to the OS, let alone the terminal
[14:01] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : I mean in what "range of time" are you on this network : GMT wise I men
[14:01] <k1l> kostas: that needs to be set before the OS boots, in the GRUB bootloader
[14:01] <morsonai_> Vivekananda: did you install the drivers?
[14:01] <morsonai_> Vivekananda: would that have any change in a virtual environment? try it
[14:01] <kostas> k1l: I understand. This did not happen, however. Is there anything I can do now?
[14:02] <morsonai_> Brother printers are wonky sometimes
[14:02] <Vivekananda> morsonai_: it works perfectly on the host
[14:02] <fujipompon> BluesKaj : oK thanks again, see you another time !
[14:02] <Vivekananda> also I used this tutorial http://askubuntu.com/questions/226307/how-to-install-a-brother-hl2270dw-laser-printer
[14:02] <Vivekananda> for it
[14:02] <k1l> kostas: yes, set "nomodeset" in the grub as a kernel parameter. and try to boot that
[14:02] <Vivekananda> the first reply in there
[14:02] <Darkstar1> Hi all. After last update my GUI manager disappeared and now when the machine is restarted all I get is the terminal prompt. I just tried to restart lightdm but it's seems stuck in a terminal screen on a line which says "checking battery state"
[14:02] <kostas> k1l: how to I access grub to set nomodeset?
[14:02] <Darkstar1> Please advicse
[14:02] <Darkstar1> advise
[14:03] <Darkstar1> *
[14:03] <FloodBot1> Darkstar1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:03] <k1l> kostas: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[14:04] <Darkstar1> Can anyone help please?
[14:05] <kostas> k1l: is it possible to have some more specific instructions? I am afraid all I can see is a blank screen
[14:05] <elixir> Sudden laptop power-off, on resart wifi not working, however can connect to mobile hotspot only, ifconfig says: http://pastebin.com/m0fYxFd1, need urgent help please. Can't find an apt+ working solution through random googling :-(
[14:05] <blazemore> Darkstar1: can you run "startx" from the terminal after you log in?
[14:06] <te> Darkstar1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2088918
[14:06] <blazemore> elixir: If your wifi isn't working how can you connect to "mobile hotspot" ?
[14:06] <Darkstar1> blazemore: Ok
[14:06] <blazemore> Darkstar1: ?
[14:06] <k1l> kostas: sry, if your answer is only " i have a blank screen" i cant help you :/   i gave you a forums post which explains in detail how to set a boot parameter.
[14:07] <elixir> blazemore: No idea :( But the wifi's to which it was connected, am not able to connect them again: it repeatedly says: Activation of wireless network connection failed
[14:07] <morsonai_> Vivekananda: made a pastebin for you. Should work. I run Arch and not Ubuntu by the way, just trying to help new *nix users http://pastebin.com/8EqxFK1J
[14:07] <Wulframn> airportyh: Hey, I'm back. So Ubuntu's installer did not detect your Win7?
[14:07] <Darkstar1> blazemore: I meant will try that and see
[14:07] <airportyh> Wulframn: exactly, I thought that was weird
[14:07] <blazemore> elixir: Try going into your wireless network settings, removing the access point which is causing you problems, and then trying again to reconnect
[14:07] <elixir> blazemore: I tried the rfkill too..no help
[14:07] <morsonai_> Vivekananda: obviously the ??? and profit is a joke
[14:07] <blazemore> Darkstar1: Yes sorry I made a mistake :) Try it and see
[14:08] <Wulframn> airportyh: it happens. Was it a new install of Win7?
[14:08] <airportyh> Wulframn: might be because my company installed this McAfree login thing in front of Win7
[14:08] <Darkstar1> just waiting on the upgrades to finish
[14:08] <kostas> k1l: I appreciate that. I read: "To set kernel boot options, you must edit your grub configuration. You can do this temporarily for a single boot by entering the grub menu. If you do not get to see the grub boot menu after the bios automatically, you may have to press SHIFT key after the bios logo to get in to grub:" I press shift but still get to the blank screen though
[14:08] <blazemore> airportyh: It's not that. It's that you need to run chkdsk on Windows before you shut down.
[14:08] <airportyh> Wulframn: it password protects the system before you boot windows
[14:08] <morsonai_> Vivekananda: if you are missing packages also try apt-get -f install and then try the dpkg command (while in the ~/Downloads/drivers directory)
[14:08] <blazemore> kostas: Turn your computer off, and turn it back on while holding shift. Don't let go of shift until you see Grub
[14:08] <Vivekananda> morsonai_: let me check
[14:09] <kostas> k1l: i.e. I don't see the grub menu automatically as it is suggested, and cannot access it after the bios logo by pressing shift either
[14:09] <manenwolf> my flash is using to much cpu any solutions to solve this
[14:09] <marzenka> pierdole was pedaly
[14:09] <blazemore> manenwolf: Stop using flash
[14:09] <kostas> blazemore: thanks, let me try this once more by holding shift down
[14:09] <manenwolf> ye its for a game i am playing
[14:09] <Goatman> flash is bad
[14:09] <airportyh> blazemore: really? I had no idea
[14:09] <Wulframn> airportyh: Well, that might have been the issue. Normally if you have an encrypted install it'll still detect it, but I hate McAfee with a passion because they always seem to be pretty good at bloatware that doesn't do anything except get in the way.
[14:09] <Vivekananda> morsonai_: I already have the drivers as in the tutorials
[14:10] <morsonai_> Vivekananda: the drivers installed with that installation script?
[14:10] <blazemore> manenwolf: Flash has high CPU usage, contact Adobe if you don't like it
[14:10] <kostas> blazemore: just rebooted by holding shift down. No luck, still a blank screen
[14:10] <Vivekananda> http://askubuntu.com/questions/226307/how-to-install-a-brother-hl2270dw-laser-printer
[14:10] <blazemore> manenwolf: We all just put up with t, or don't use it
[14:10] <morsonai_> Vivekananda: you should really not rely on a script to install something if it is as simple as a few commands (or clicks in the GUI, though I wouldn't recommend it)
[14:10] <k1l> kostas: did you install ubuntu and grub the right way?
[14:10] <elixir> blazemore: how to remove the access pt, given this it how it looks in wireless settings: http://imagebin.org/266697
[14:10] <manenwolf> ok thanks anyway
[14:10] <Wulframn> Vivekananda: I have that printer, too. I find it pretty easy to setup in Ubuntu.
[14:10] <blazemore> kostas: Do you see ANYTHING on your screen before Ubuntu would normally boot? Like, can you get into the BIOS or anything?
[14:10] <Slugze> hello, say anyone is using synergy around here?  Got a lil problem, 2 stations, both on ubuntu 13.04, each having a mouse attached (- usb -) When i'm using mouse1 on pc1, the back / forward is doing perfect, same for mouse2/pc2 .  But when i'm doing mouse1(server)pc2(client) the backforwar button of the mouse is doing a "slide left and right" ( using per exemple firefox ) .  So i'm wondering if theres a quickfix for that ?
[14:10] <Vivekananda> yes I used the first answer in there
[14:11] <Wulframn> airportyh: was that a new win7 install or did you have a backup of it's important parts?
[14:11] <Vivekananda> Wulframn: good to have you here
[14:11] <Vivekananda> so how do I proceed
[14:11] <te> Darkstar1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/205695/12-04-hangs-at-checking-battery-state
[14:11] <morsonai_> Vivekananda: try apt-get purge <name of drivers> and then installing them with my method. Remember apt-get -f install if it says something about dependencies not being met or not having required packages.
[14:11] <Vivekananda> I am on win 7 host and vbox ubuntu guest. I used the tut answer first one here http://askubuntu.com/questions/226307/how-to-install-a-brother-hl2270dw-laser-printer
[14:11] <airportyh> Wulframn: it was a new install
[14:12] <Darkstar1> can't start X
[14:12] <morsonai_> Vivekananda: You already said that
[14:12] <Darkstar1> checking log files
[14:12] <morsonai_> Vivekananda: So try what I said
[14:12] <Vivekananda> morsonai_: how does your method differ from that one?
[14:12] <airportyh> Wulframn: IT has this preinstalled image
[14:12] <airportyh> Wulframn: I am not going to lost any data
[14:12] <morsonai_> Vivekananda: you are downloading a bash script and running it and I am telling you to manually download the .deb and use dpkg
[14:12] <kostas> k1l: not sure: I downloaded the iso file and created a bootable flash drive as you suggested. However, I see now that when I saw the "keyboard logo" (indicated in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 ) I did not press F6 to set nomodeset, and hence the problem, I think
[14:12] <Wulframn> airportyh: Just reinstall when you can get the image and then add the McAfee software *after* grub is all setup and good to go.
[14:12] <Wulframn> Then if it doesn't work you'll know it's McAfee.
[14:13] <te> Darkstar1: You able to login to console mode. Right?
[14:13] <Darkstar1> ye
[14:13] <Vivekananda> morsonai_: o okay
[14:13] <te> Darkstar1: Did you try removing or renaming the xorg.conf file?
[14:13] <Darkstar1> aahh some update seems to have bricked the Nvidia drivers :/
[14:13] <Vivekananda> so I will purge it and then
[14:13] <Darkstar1> Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module
[14:13] <morsonai_> Vivekananda: remember, line 5 and 6 are jokes
[14:14] <Darkstar1> te: where can I find that file?
[14:14] <te> Darkstar1: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf or mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[14:14] <Darkstar1> nvm I'll search it
[14:14] <blazemore> Darkstar1: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[14:14] <blazemore> Darkstar1: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current
[14:14] <Wulframn> airportyh: The only other option would be to use a Live environment (if you're working with computers there is *no* reason not to have a LiveCD/USB of System Rescue CD) to mount and chroot into the broken install and view what's going on exactly.
[14:15] <airportyh> Wulframn: by live environment what do you mean exactly? And how do I get it?
[14:16] <Darkstar1> blazemore: --reinstall. But thanks
[14:16] <kostas> any ideas on how to proceed now?
[14:16] <Wulframn> airportyh: Did you install Ubuntu via CD?
[14:16] <Vivekananda> morsonai_: the problem is I dont remember what driver was installed by that installer and also dont know enough posix regex to find out the correct one
[14:16] <airportyh> Wulframn: no, I made a bootable USB stick
[14:17] <Vivekananda> Wulframn: a question. Did you use that printer on a vbox
[14:17] <morsonai_> Vivekananda: which is why you shouldn't rely on scripts to install your drivers
[14:17] <morsonai_> apt-cache search brother
[14:17] <morsonai_> apt-cache search cupswrapper
[14:17] <Wulframn> airportyh: Ok, that's good too. When you pop it in and turn on the computer make sure to boot off the USB, just like how you had to do to access the install prompt. There should be an option for Live Environment, test ubuntu before you install, etc.
[14:17] <Wulframn> Vivekananda: No
[14:17] <Wulframn> afk for a moment...
[14:18] <airportyh> Wulframn: yeah, I was able to run ubuntu directly from the stick
[14:18] <Wulframn> back
[14:18] <streulma> has someone tried to install Ubuntu on a Macbook Pro Retina? I have a to high resolution on Retina screen.
[14:18] <Wulframn> airportyh: Ok, that is a live environment. It loads an OS into your ram and lets you run the system without affecting anything on your hard drive.
[14:18] <Wulframn> airportyh: you can use that to repair or recover broken installs.
[14:19] <streulma> I don't know what the stablest is 12.04 or 13.04
[14:19] <te> streulma: You can probably use xrandr to view available screen sizes and to change
[14:19] <te> 12.04
[14:19] <Wulframn> !lts | streulma
[14:19] <Darkstar1> blazemore: te neither works. Re-installed and moved the xorg.conf away. still getting the " Failing initialization of X screen 0 " error
[14:19] <streulma> te: yes but I don't know if I must use Nouveau driver or NVidia graphics
[14:20] <airportyh> Wulframn: gotcha. How would I repair it?
[14:20] <Wulframn> airportyh: Ok, are you on the broken computer now?
[14:21] <te> Darkstar1: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:22] <airportyh> Wulframn: yes
[14:22] <te> Darkstar1: What does  ^^^^^^^ say?
[14:22] <Wulframn> airportyh: Are you running the Ubuntu live environment from the stick?
[14:22] <Darkstar1> found the issue. NVIDIA: "API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 304.48, but this NVIDIA driver component has version 304.88.  Please make sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version."
[14:23] <airportyh> Wulframn: booting into it now
[14:23] <Darkstar1> currently purging nvidia
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Darkstar1: try:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install dkms
[14:23] <Wulframn> airportyh: Ok, I'll brb
[14:27] <elixir> blazemore: Ok, i tried removing the access point and then reconnecting, but again it didn't connect to it, rather it again automatically connected to the hotspot
[14:28] <__raven> any tool to make a kind of ascii video/screenshot logging from terminal sessions?
[14:29] <kostas> Can anyone suggest what I can do now that the computer does not boot and do not have access to grub?
[14:29] <blazemore> kostas: Restore Grub from a liveCD
[14:29] <te> kostas: Have you tried a boot disk?
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> __raven: to watch back you mean?
[14:30] <kostas> te: I tried a bootable usb stick, but it won't boot
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> !info ttyrec
[14:30] <te> kostas: Does it post?
[14:30] <Wulframn> airportyh: I am back. What's the status?
[14:30] <kostas> te: what do you mean by "post"?
[14:31] <te> kostas: (What's the last thing you see on the screen?)  (Anything?)
[14:31] <kostas> te: the VAIO logo and then a black screen
[14:31] <blazemore> te: I already asked: kostas: Do you see ANYTHING on your screen before Ubuntu would normally boot? Like, can you get into the BIOS or anything?
[14:31] <kostas> te: I can get into BIOS yes, but that's all
[14:31] <te> kostas: Laptop or Desktop?
[14:31] <kostas> te: laptop
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> kostas: POST = (P)ower (O)n (S)elf (T)est
[14:32] <elixir> blazemore: anything else to try?
[14:32] <blazemore> kostas: It's all that funky stuff that happens before your computer loads the operating system
[14:32] <te> kostas: Gettng into BIOS is different for different PCs, but usually, you get instructions on the screen right after post.
[14:32] <kostas> blazemore: thanks
[14:33] <blazemore> elixir: I don't know, honestly. Can any of your other devices connect to the problematic access point?
[14:33] <kostas> te: I can access BIOS no problem, but that's about it
[14:33] <elixir> blazemore: yes.
[14:33] <__raven> ActionParsnip, yes. for example iftop whats using ncurses i think
[14:33] <kostas> doesn't boot further than that
[14:33] <airportyh> Wulframn: ubuntu is launched
[14:34] <te> kostas: Esc or F1 or Del or some key strock, (it usually tells you, and it may flash by too quickly for you to notice, to cycle it several times untill you see it.
[14:34] <elixir> blazemore: its just after the sudden shut down of my ubuntu after which, on restart, it can't connect to that wifi network
[14:34] <te> *so (not to).
[14:34] <kostas> te: yes its F2, and I can get in BIOS. but that's all, it won't boot further
[14:34] <blazemore> elixir: Can any other users on your system connect to the problematic access point, such as the guest user?
[14:34] <elixir> blazemore: Or, can you redirect me to someone?
[14:34] <Wulframn> airportyh: which partition is your /boot partition?
[14:35] <te> kostas: Once you are in BIOS settings, see what the boot order is set to.
[14:35] <elixir> blazemore: I didn't try, should I?
[14:35] <blazemore> elixir: You can't answer the question I asked you without trying it ;)
[14:35] <airportyh> Wulframn: /dev/sda3
[14:35] <elixir> blazemore: I'll be back in a moment :)
[14:35] <kostas> te: I have already set to boot order to boot from the usb stick and enabled the external boot devices. No luck
[14:35] <Wulframn> airportyh: Is that also your / partition?
[14:35] <te> kostas: If you set it to the primary drive and it still does not boot, try CD or USB.
[14:35] <airportyh> Wulframn: yes
[14:35] <kostas> te: I have already tried usb and cd, does not boot
[14:36] <Wulframn> airportyh: mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/ubuntu
[14:36] <te> kostas: Given what you just said, I would speculate hardware issue.
[14:36] <Taev> whats the console command to start apache?
[14:37] <te> kostas: You might try unplugging it and take out the battery and leave it set for a few minutes.
[14:37] <Taev> nm
[14:38] <airportyh> Wulframn: done
[14:38] <te> kostas: (If it were a desktop, I'd take out the CMOS battery, but it's not so, you might also try and set BIOS to default, (if you can find that option).
[14:38] <Wulframn> airportyh: give me just a moment. I'm working on another issue at the desk. I'm here, I'll be just a moment...
[14:38] <elixir> blazemore: Same problem with the guest account too.
[14:38] <airportyh> Wulframn: np
[14:39] <kostas> te: I have already discussed that with others here over the past couple of hours. There is no hardware malfunction. I was able to successfully boot via the usb stick and install Ubuntu 12.4. However after I have done so, I got to a blank screen. Apparently there is a conflict with the graphics card and I had to set monodeset during the installation which I did not. I was pointed to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 where 
[14:39] <__raven> ActionParsnip, any idea for "recording" ncurses?
[14:39] <kostas> the grub settings after the bios logo, but it does not happen automatically, neither by pressing shift as suggested in the link
[14:39] <Wulframn> airportyh: Ok, back. cd /mnt/ubuntu
[14:39] <te> kostas: But you said it wont boot.....?
[14:40] <kostas> end result is a computer with a blank screen that I can do nothing apart from accessing the bios settings
[14:40] <blazemore> elixir: Can any other devices connect to the problematic access point?
[14:40] <Darkstar1> I re-installed dkms and the nvidia driver. Neither of which has resolved my problem
[14:40] <kostas> te: it did boot to istall 12.04. but won't boot now
[14:40] <airportyh> Wulframn: done
[14:40] <Darkstar1> Stilll getting the kernel mismatch problem
[14:40] <te> kostas: If it won't boot, it is obviously a hardware issue.
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> __raven: no idea, could use kazam and record the terminal window if thats what you mean
[14:41] <elixir> blazemore: As I said earlier, yes, to all other laptops and my phone, it can be easily connected
[14:41] <kostas> te: it is a conflict with graphics card issue that I cannot get past
[14:41] <Wulframn> airportyh: I don't remember if ubuntu has wgetpaste or not (on Gentoo right now) so try cat /boot/grub/grub.conf | wgetpaste
[14:41] <blazemore> Hmm elixir that is very odd. Does your computer have a make and model?
[14:41] <te> kostas: Do you see evidence that the Hard Drive is recognized in the BIOS settings?
[14:42] <Vivekananda> Wulframn: did you install it on a proper host ubutu then
[14:42] <kostas> te: what should this evidence look like?
[14:42] <te> kostas: If it is noodeset, (doesn't sound like it, but...) see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[14:42] <airportyh> Wulframn: no /boot/grub/grub.conf
[14:42] <airportyh> Wulframn: no wgetpaste either
[14:42] <elixir> blazemore: make and model, means?
[14:42] <blazemore> elixir: like, what computer do you have?
[14:42] <Wulframn> airportyh: Ok, hang tight for a moment
[14:42] <Wulframn> Vivekananda: yes, I did.
[14:42] <blazemore> elixir: As specifically as possible
[14:43] <kostas> te: I was pointed to this link before. However, I cannot seem to do anything from what is suggested there. I cannot access grub
[14:43] <Vivekananda> I am having a weird problem but will take it in turn
[14:43] <__raven> ActionParsnip, the more general thing is a monitoring tool what shows traffic by host so everything iftop does but logged
[14:43] <blazemore> Vivekananda: What do you mean?
[14:44] <Vivekananda> Wulframn: a question. Suppose you leave your system for sometime and it sleeps. will the computer still recognize a print command from a networked computer and print ?
[14:44] <te> kostas: There are a number of BIOS configurations, (different screens and different options), so you just have to look around. And again, if you see option for seting all BIOS settings to Default, try that as well.
[14:44] <Wulframn> airportyh: run ls /etc/default/grub and see what it returns
[14:44] <Wulframn> Vivekananda: I am unsure
[14:44] <elixir> blazemore: Lenovo Ideapad Y560, 4gb ram, 500 gb HDD, Intel® Core™ i5 CPU M 460 @ 2.53GHz × 4 , Partitioned with windows-64 bit and running Ubuntu 12.10 with windows 7 also installed in partition, anything else plese?
[14:44] <airportyh> Wulframn: it's a tex file
[14:45] <blazemore> elixir: "Lenovo Ideapad Y560" was enough :)
[14:45] <elixir> blazemore: :)
[14:45] <Wulframn> airportyh: Ok, that's what I was looking for. Open that with nano
[14:45] <airportyh> Wulframn: ok
[14:46] <kostas> te: just set the default settings. Does not boot. Hard drive looks ok. It was okay when I installed 12.04 a few mins ago anyway
[14:46] <te> kostas: If you do not get the grub screen, then nomodeset proceedures are not going to help you, (on that you are correct).  If you do not get that far, the computer is not booting and it would be a hardware issue.  If you have a known to be good boot disk and a known to be good hard drive, you should be able to boot to one or the other.
[14:46] <Vivekananda> Wulframn: do I need to install the driver too or just the cups wrapper ?
[14:46] <Wulframn> Vivekananda: when I did it I had to download the driver
[14:46] <Wulframn> Or update the list of drivers via Ubuntu's printer app
[14:47] <kostas> te: the harddrive worked fine until I installed 12.04 and the boot usb stick worked fine until a few mins ago. If there was a hard disk failure I should be able to boot via the usb stick with the live version. but this is not the case either
[14:47] <kostas> te: hence I cannot imagine that my hard disk AND the usb live stick failed at the same time
[14:47] <Wulframn> airportyh: Actually, copy paste that text file to codepad and let me take a look at it.
[14:47] <te> kostas: If a disk is not bootable and the PC tries to boot to it and is unable to, you will usually get some sort of error.  Do you see the error essage?
[14:48] <kostas> te: no error message whatsoever, just a black screen
[14:48] <te> *message*
[14:48] <te> kostas: Then it is a hardware issue.
[14:48] <kostas> te: if so, why I can't boot via the usb live stick?
[14:49] <Vivekananda> Wulframn: do I download that printer app or is it installed by default
[14:49] <ahalverson> does anyone know how to setup a tor server?
[14:49] <Wulframn> Vivekananda: it is installed by default. One moment and I'll find it for you
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> !tor | ahalverson
[14:49] <te> kostas: The fact that you can   not boot a known  to be good USB stick or CD indicates a hardware issue.
[14:49] <Vivekananda> Wulframn: I see "printers" in settings
[14:50] <airportyh> Wulframn: http://codepad.org/BZNrj0DW
[14:50] <Vivekananda> so I guess that is the one but how do I update the drivers
[14:50] <te> kostas: You were able to boot them before.  Right?
[14:50] <__raven> which tool for logging net traffic by host? similar to iftop but with graphs over time for example
[14:50] <Wulframn> airportyh: thanks
[14:50] <ahalverson> thank you monkeydust
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> ahalverson  i've just heard, a criminal organisation used Tor, but was traced and caught anyhow
[14:50] <kostas> te: yes, like 30 mins ago
[14:50] <te> kostas: Ok then.  Check your hardware.
[14:50] <kostas> te: ok, will do
[14:50] <Wulframn> airportyh: Ok, my bad. codepad the output of nano /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[14:50] <kostas> thanks for all your help guys
[14:51] <te> kostas: Did you try taking out the battery and unplugging the power cord for a while?
[14:51] <airportyh> Wulframn: that fine doesn't exist
[14:51] <airportyh> Wulframn: file
[14:51] <Wulframn> Vivekananda: I don't have Ubuntu available to me at the moment. It is just the "Add new hardware/printer" option under settings.
[14:52] <Vivekananda> yes I see that option
[14:52] <Wulframn> airportyh: Ok, just a second
[14:52] <Wulframn> Vivekananda: run that wizard
[14:52] <kostas> te: I have already done that, running on powercord for days now
[14:52] <Vivekananda> but I dont know the options after that
[14:52] <Vivekananda> also I am on a guest ubuntu but that should not complicate matters
[14:52] <Wulframn> airportyh: ls -l /boot/grub/grub.cfg = no results?
[14:52] <Vivekananda> asks me for a uri
[14:53] <Vivekananda> or a network printer
[14:53] <airportyh> Wulframn: No such file or directory
[14:53] <Vivekananda> dont know the uri
[14:53] <Wulframn> Vivekananda: no network printer pops up? Do you have the printer all setup and connected to your wifi?
[14:53] <Wulframn> airportyh: Ok, one second
[14:54] <Vivekananda> it is set up yes
[14:54] <Vivekananda> I see it on my host win 7
[14:54] <Vivekananda> and can print too
[14:54] <Vivekananda> am testing the printing
[14:54] <Wulframn> airportyh: chroot /mnt/ubuntu /bin/bash
[14:55] <elixir> blazemore: around?
[14:55] <Wulframn> Vivekananda: but you can't see it in Ubuntu? I'll have to leave you in better hands than my own. I am sorry. =(
[14:55] <airportyh> Wulframn: ok
[14:55] <Wulframn> airportyh: export PS1="(chroot) $PS1"
[14:56] <Wulframn> airportyh: that isn't really necessary, it's just something a lot do to remind ourselves we're in a chroot'ed environment
[14:56] <Vivekananda> Wulframn: I havent installed the driver
[14:56] <blazemore> elixir: I am but I am at work. Try booting with an older kernel from Grub and see if the problem persists
[14:56] <airportyh> Wulframn: ok
[14:56] <Vivekananda> also did not restart the box after cupswrapper install
[14:56] <Wulframn> Vivekananda: try installing the driver or updating ubuntu's list of drivers
[14:56] <__raven> ActionParsnip, the more general thing is a monitoring tool what shows traffic by host so everything iftop does but logged
[14:56] <Vivekananda> should I do both
[14:56] <Wulframn> airportyh: update-grub
[14:56] <Vivekananda> Wulframn: "updating list of drivers" how ?
[14:57] <Wulframn> Vivekananda: Like I said, I don't have Ubuntu right in front of me. IIRC there was an option on the wizard to update Ubuntu's list of printer drivers.
[14:57] <Wulframn> Or cups wrappers, it's been a while.
[14:57] <Sk1Special> how do reinstall grub over windows 8 loader while still being able to load windows 8 ? :]
[14:57] <elixir> blazemore: Ok, I can't move to older kernel, have some issue, can you redirect me to someone here who may solve the issue?
[14:57] <blazemore> elixir: No just wait
[14:57] <Homely_Girl> Hi running Ubuntu 12.04 with unity, how do I do system updates?
[14:57] <blazemore> Homely_Girl: Search for "update" in the dash
[14:58] <Wulframn> Homely_Girl: apt-get update
[14:58] <airportyh> Wulframn: error http://codepad.org/MnsC5DiC
[14:58] <Homely_Girl> blazemore: thank you
[14:58] <blazemore> elixir: Ask your question again in 20 minutes or so
[14:59] <Wulframn> airportyh: fdisk -l /dev/sda and post that output
[14:59] <Homely_Girl> Wulframn: Thanks
[14:59] <Wulframn> Homely_Girl: np
[15:00] <airportyh_> Wulframn: no output
[15:00] <blazemore> airportyh_: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[15:00] <Homely_Girl> Wulframn: I love how smoothly my pc runs on 12.04 but really need to make a list of things I need help with 'cos when I get here I forget!! lol
[15:00] <__raven> ActionParsnip, the more general thing is a monitoring tool what shows traffic by host so everything iftop does but logged
[15:01] <Wulframn> airportyh_: Uh, ok. We need a copy of your partition table.
[15:01] <Wulframn> Homely_Girl: =)
[15:01] <airportyh_> Wulframn: ah with sudo it returns "unable to resolve host ubuntu"
[15:01] <elixir> blazemore: ok, thanks
[15:02] <Wulframn> airportyh_: exit out of the chroot and umount /mnt/ubuntu and try again
[15:02] <ElFizbanio> could someone try to download this http://quozl.linux.org.au/netrek-client-pygame/gytha_0.9-1_all.deb and upload it to dropbox please?
[15:02] <Guest43297> hello
[15:02] <airportyh_> Wulframn: try the fdisk again?
[15:02] <blazemore> elixir: http://rory.sh/files/gytha_0.9-1_all.deb
[15:03] <blazemore> 27 seconds not bad
[15:03] <Guest43297> pls do u know any chat room for wifislax
[15:03] <Wulframn> airportyh_: Yes, we need a copy of the partition table. We're going to try writing the grub.cfg by hand.
[15:03] <Wulframn> Just to see if we can get it to work. =P
[15:03] <Wulframn> We'll worry about fancy pretties later.
[15:03] <indistylo> Having problem in ASUS X201E, I have tried installing ubuntu 3 times but Grub is not coming when i reboot. Do I need to do any change in BIOS/ EFI, In my view there is some conflict for Master Boot Record(MBR), Kindly suggest view to resolve this issue
[15:04] <wedjat_> ola
[15:04] <airportyh_> Wulframn: http://codepad.org/JwPhP4x6
[15:05] <blazemore> indistylo: Did you check the integrity of the disk? Your laptop is actually certified "enabled" for Ubuntu so you shouldn't have any problems http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201210-11903/
[15:05] <mitch__> indistylo, you should try burning a CD or live disk and try booting it on there first. if it runs on there, there should be very few issues
[15:05] <Wulframn> airportyh_: Ok, so for right now we'll just going to see if we can get Ubuntu to load. Then we'll try pulling windows in later before adding the splash screen, etc. One moment while I write this up.
[15:05] <mitch__> and as blazemore stated, i would check the integrity of the disk, also, i've found my versions of ubuntu to run fine on ext4
[15:06] <airportyh_> Wulframn: okay, thanks!
[15:06] <mitch__> personally prefer that for my OS disk instead of MBR
[15:06] <Dmole> old LVM suddenly doing a lot of never ending seeking right after "vgchange -ay",log level 6 sad nothing about it. Options?
[15:06] <Guest43297> mitch__;pls do u know any chat room for wifislax
[15:07] <elixir> blazemore: it installed gytha, so now?
[15:07] <mitch__> Guest43297: say again? please elaborate
[15:07] <indistylo> mitch__: I have tried from Live USB, its working fine. running like charm
[15:08] <Guest43297> mitch__: pls do u know any chat room for wifislax
[15:08] <blazemore> !ot | Guest43297
[15:08] <xtrez> why can't i find apache, or lamp server in ubuntu software center ?
[15:09] <xtrez> ubuntu has become more complicated now. :(
[15:09] <Wulframn> airportyh_:mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/ubuntu
[15:09] <mitch__> indistylo: ok then, i would suggest it could be something with the integrity of the disk like blazemore suggested, it could also be an issue with the way you are doing the install. do you have enough of a pagefile when creating the disk partitions?
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> xtrez  apaeche2 is in the repos
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> xtrez  apache2 is in the repos
[15:10] <blazemore> elixir: what's "gytha"?
[15:10] <airportyh_> Wolframn: done
[15:10] <Wulframn> airportyh_: cd /mnt/ubuntu && ls /boot/vmlinuz*
[15:10] <mitch__> xtrez: you should be able to find it with "sudo apt-get install apac *tab tab* " and then it will fill in any options for apache
[15:11] <Wulframn> Paste the output of the ls /boot/vmlinuz* command
[15:12] <airportyh_> Wolframn: boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-19-generic
[15:12] <Wulframn> airportyh_: also ls /boot/initramfs*
[15:12] <elixir> blazemore: I don't know, the link you gave above: http://rory.sh/files/gytha_0.9-1_all.deb opened software center and installed something caled "gytha"
[15:13] <airportyh_> Wulframn: No such file or directory
[15:13] <Wulframn> airportyh_: ok, thanks
[15:13] <blazemore> sorry elixir that message was intended for ElFizbanio [ http://rory.sh/files/gytha_0.9-1_all.deb ]
[15:14] <blazemore> elixir: You should probably uninstall it since even I have no idea what it is
[15:14] <blazemore> I was just mirroring it for ElFizbanio
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> elixir  blazemore sent it to the wrong person, it was for ElFizbanio
[15:14] <ElFizbanio> it's just a game
[15:14] <blazemore> elixir: It's cos I hit el-[tab] and it filled in your name :)
[15:14] <Wulframn> airportyh_: ok, cd /mnt/ubuntu/boot/grub/
[15:15] <airportyh_> Wulframn: ok
[15:15] <Muzaffer> hi
[15:15] <Wulframn> airportyh_: http://codepad.org/AUW7q4iT
[15:15] <Muzaffer> why can't I see xen packages in ubuntu minimal?
[15:15] <Wulframn> airportyh_: use nano -w ./grub.cfg and paste that into the file, then ctrl+x, y, and close it
[15:17] <airportyh_> Wulframn: replace all the contents?
[15:17] <elixir> blazemore: Ok, no issues
[15:17] <Wulframn> airportyh_: Ok, stop and exit out without making any changes or saves
[15:17] <airportyh_> Wulframn: ok
[15:18] <Wulframn> airportyh_: I thought we looked and there was no grub.cfg?
[15:18] <mitch__> text test. sorry for the inconvenience.
[15:18] <mitch__> why is it gray? rabble.
[15:18] <blazemore> mitch__: please use #derpyhooves for testing
[15:18] <airportyh_> Wulframn: I thought so too, pretty sure
[15:19] <airportyh_> Wulframn: something we did along the way to generate it? maybe grub-update
[15:19] <Wulframn> airportyh_: ok, no worries. cp ./grub.cfg ./grub.cfg.backup
[15:19] <servercbe> hi! everybody... I cant see my pc in the network!... I try installin all files of SAMBA  but! nothing :( somebody helpme please
[15:19] <airportyh_> Wulframn: ok
[15:19] <Wulframn> airportyh_: maybe I messed up and had you look in the live environment's /boot instead of your mounted /boot. It's my bad, I am sure.
[15:19] <Wulframn> airportyh_: all done with that?
[15:19] <xtrez> MonkeyDust, the strange thing is when i search apache it only shows only paid items, but when i type apache2 then only is shows the correct package. that's really not an optimized search.
[15:19] <airportyh_> Wulframn: yes
[15:20] <xtrez> mitch__, using apt-get it's there but doesn't shows up in ubuntu software center.
[15:20] <servercbe> I dont understand why i cant see my pc on the network
[15:21] <Wulframn> airportyh_: you understand that we made a backup, right? This way if we mess up all you need to do is reload ubuntu's live environment (the one you're in now), mount /dev/sda3 (your / filesystem) to /mnt/ubuntu, then navigate to cd /mnt/ubuntu/boot/grub and copy (cp) ./grub.cfg.backup to ./grub.cfg, right?
[15:21] <doomlord_> is it possdible to remap ones' keyboard partially.. i'd like to swap _ and - (shift inverted on that key..)
[15:21] <mitch__> xtrez, uh yeah it might not. it should be installed if you install it via apt-get
[15:21] <airportyh_> Wulframn: yes, got that
[15:21] <Wulframn> airportyh_: Ok, I just want to make sure we're on the same page. I have to go very soon, so this way if we mess something up you can revert to how you were and get someone else to help you, too. =D
[15:21] <airportyh_> Wulframn: so now overwrite with your paste?
[15:21] <xtrez> mitch__, yeah that is installable throught apt-get.
[15:22] <servercbe> I used this page http://linuxman.blogsome.com/2009/11/12/fallo-al-obtener-la-lista-de-comparticion-del-servidor-ubuntu-karmic-koala/
[15:22] <servercbe> but didnt work
[15:22] <Wulframn> airportyh_: first I want you to codepad the ./grub.cfg or it's backup so I can look at it, then paste in my file to ./grub.cfg and reboot the system after you umount /mnt/ubuntu
[15:22] <mitch__> xtrez, ok, so why do you need it installed via the software center then instead of via apt-get?
[15:23] <airportyh_> Wulframn: is there a way to pipe the output to the clipboard?
[15:23] <Wulframn> !pastebin | wulframn
[15:23] <servercbe> I am using edubuntu 12.04.2, Ci3, 6GB Ram, Núcleo Linux 3.5.0-37-generic
[15:23] <xtrez> mitch__, i was curious that why it was not showing up in ubuntu software center, there might be case when i can find new packages by scrolling through search results in software center.
[15:23] <Wulframn> airportyh_: pipe it to pastebinit
[15:23] <xtrez> mitch__, the packages which i don't know yet.
[15:24] <vivanov> i get error 'hid-generic ... : cant reset device' -- what to do ?
[15:24] <mitch__> xtrez, oh. well also, it might not be showing up in Software Center because it is listed under the "technical" at the bottom.... i'll look. hold on.
[15:25] <airportyh_> Wulframn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5955400/
[15:25] <mitch__> xtrez, also, apt-get warns you before installing extra packages with it... it lists what those packages are I believe.
[15:25] <xtrez> like for apache2,  when installing it through apt-get it doesnt shows add-ons like adzapper but in software center atleast you can learn you can use such add-ons
[15:26] <Wulframn> airportyh_: ok, now give my file a try and report back, pls
[15:26] <servercbe> any help? please. sorry if I am interrupting you... but I need you gays!
[15:26] <mitch__> xtrez, oooooh you mean ones that can be used in conjunction with?
[15:26] <Wulframn> !ask | servercbe
[15:26] <researcher123> cp suddenly slowed down.13.04 was working well till last week
[15:26] <xtrez> mitch__, yeah
[15:27] <mitch__> xtrez, yeah try choosing the technical at the bottom.... it showed more apache2 options. it did for me at least
[15:27] <researcher123> how do I know space left on my disk?
[15:27] <servercbe> ok.. here  I go... i am trying to see my pc on the network... but
[15:27] <xtrez> mitch__, so for a new person to linux software center helps to get familiarize across different softwares and packages that are available.
[15:27] <john_doe_jr> how do you remove the contents the current directory using the rm command….I've tried sudo rm -rf . but this doesn't work
[15:27] <airportyh_> Wulframn: just take the USB stick out and reboot?
[15:27] <servercbe> i installed all about samba
[15:27] <Wulframn> airportyh_: Yes
[15:27] <airportyh_> Wulframn: ok
[15:27] <Wulframn> airportyh_: or reboot and take the stick out when it tells you or it black screens, it doesn't matter
[15:28] <Dooces> would someone be able to tell me wtf kind of time format this is: /&:83!37:72!/5-61!1?181&-4:(8?/&/&/!-?-
[15:28] <mitch__> xtrez, yeah, i see what you mean now. i am relatively new to linux in the grand scheme of things myself so. i see what you mean. yeah if you do the technical option at the bottom, i believe it will give you a better chance at finding the things you are looking for.
[15:28] <xtrez> mitch__, where is technical listed ?
[15:28] <researcher123> how to see free memory left on hard disk
[15:28] <xtrez> researcher123, df -h
[15:28] <blazemore> researcher123: df -h
[15:29] <mitch__> xtrez, so search for "apache" and then when the options show up. at the very bottom status bar, choose "Show *** Technical Items"
[15:29] <researcher123> thansk xtrez
[15:29] <mitch__> it should be in red
[15:29] <mitch__> xtrez, then that shows more of the items you're looking for, i believe
[15:29] <airportyh> Wolframn: no good. Still seeing the Mcafee boot screen
[15:29] <servercbe> .. I dont know what to do now. ..  Why i cant see my pc on the network... tell me what you need from me and I will send it to you inmediatlythanks Wulfram
[15:30] <airportyh> Wulframn: I think it's because I checked the box that says to install the boot loader in /dev/sda3
[15:30] <xtrez> mitch__, yeah correct :) this is what i was looking for. :) so things are hidden under technical items, and other things that are meant to sell are first displayed :D
[15:30] <Wulframn> airportyh_: Ah, ok. If you're seeing the McAfee bootscreen it sounds like windows overwrote the MBR
[15:30] <Lajjla> Is it weird that putty from another machine seems to yield the results of scripts faster than executing it in the terminal on the machine itself?
[15:31] <Wulframn> airportyh_: /dev/sda3 is marked bootable and is where grub is stored, so that shouldn't be an issue
[15:31] <mitch__> xtrez, sort of. it's meant to keep those old school linux technical packages and items out of the way for people that are looking for simple things.
[15:31] <mitch__> xtrez, i think it's meant to take that "scary technical barrier" out of ubuntu like it used to have
[15:31] <xtrez> mitch__, ubuntu getting more commercialized that's not very good
[15:31] <Wulframn> airportyh_: I have to go. If you still don't have luck here try #linux and #grub. Sorry and goodluck, brother
[15:31] <airportyh> Wulframn: alright. Thanks so much for all your help!
[15:32] <mitch__> xtrez, it's meant to be easier to use but still technical if you want to, i think. IMO
[15:32] <Muzaffer> why can't I see xen packages in ubuntu minimal?
[15:32] <Wulframn> airportyh: Sorry we couldn't get it resolved. Hope it works out!
[15:32] <xtrez> mitch__,  :)
[15:34] <Muzaffer> please. I'm in a hurry
[15:35] <xtrez> Muzaffer, because it's minimal.
[15:35] <blazemore> !details | Muzaffer
[15:35] <Muzaffer> blazemore: 13.04 minimal
[15:35] <Muzaffer> xtrez: what repo do I need?
[15:35] <blazemore> Muzaffer: "Why can't I see?" isn't a good question
[15:36] <blazemore> Muzaffer: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-cache search xen
[15:36] <ilovexbmc> hey guys, i have Nvidia graphics card on my laptop, when i run ubuntu live my graphics are all unusable, is there a boot option to help me?
[15:36] <xtrez> Muzaffer, no idea about that, may be google can help it.
[15:36] <blazemore> ilovexbmc: What do you mean by unusable?
[15:37] <ilovexbmc> its as if the display is S T R E T C H E D beyond my display limits and then repeated over itself about 4 times - i took a photo but cant find it now - have same issue with zorin too (ubuntu variant) and have photo of that
[15:37] <Muzaffer> blazemore: that did the trick, thank you very much
[15:37] <Dmole> ilovexbmc	: have you seen Linus's comment on nvidea? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_36yNWw_07g
[15:37] <blazemore> !nomodeset | ilovexbmc
[15:38] <ilovexbmc> mine is corrupted at the splash screen and then never rectifies from there...
[15:38] <Guest43297> ubottu: pls do u know any chat room for wifislax
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> ilovexbmc: what video chip are you using?
[15:39] <ilovexbmc> actionpartnership NVidia GEForce 7000M
[15:40] <Guest43297> ActionParsnip: pls do u know any chat room for wifislax
[15:40] <Muzaffer> !xen
[15:40] <ilovexbmc> actionparsnip NVidia GEForce 7000M
[15:40] <ilovexbmc> lol partnership? where didi trhat come from
[15:42] <ilovexbmc> brb off to try nomodeset
[15:45] <Guest43297> ilovexmb: pls do u know any chat room for wifislax
[15:45] <Guest43297> ilovexbmc: pls do u know any chat room for wifislax
[15:45] <blazemore> !patience Guest43297 this isn't even the right place anyway
[15:45] <blazemore> !patience| Guest43297 this isn't even the right place anyway
[15:46] <Dmole> Guest43297: this is your best option: http://foro.seguridadwireless.net/live-wifislax/
[15:48] <researcher123> Is my hard disk in right shape.Please advice http://paste.ubuntu.com/5955461/
[15:48] <Guest43297> Dmole: its in spanish and am english
[15:48] <blazemore> researcher123: what do you mean "in right shape" are you having problems?
[15:49] <researcher123> blazemore: Yes.It has slowed down. N browser suddenly closes n some websites dont open
[15:50] <Dmole> Guest43297: then use google translate or a different OS.
[15:51] <Pici> Guest43297: wifislax is not Ubuntu. You are in #ubuntu
[15:51] <Guest43297> Dmole: ok
[15:51] <Dmole> Guest43297: backtrack did not work for you?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> researcher123, you may want to run autoremove and autoclean periodically to get rid of unneeded leftover files
[15:51] <Pici> backtrack is not Ubuntu either.
[15:51] <wwnbb> ;lkj
[15:52] <wolter> how can I setup a new home directory with all the default files? (Without creating a new user account.)
[15:52] <Dmole> backtrack can be installed from ubuntu as a package
[15:52] <Guest43297> Dmole:I am download its torrent its not ready
[15:52] <researcher123> BluesKaj: Is it safe to run autoremove?
[15:52] <Dmole> researcher123:yes
[15:52] <BluesKaj> yes , I do it at least once /week
[15:52] <Guest43297> Dmole:i am using xubuntu
[15:53] <researcher123> BluesKaj: Hwats that command plz tell me
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> Guest43297: #wifislax @ irc.irc-hispano.org
[15:53] <researcher123> how to run autoremove and autoclean comand
[15:53] <BluesKaj> researcher123, sudo apt-get autoremove
[15:54] <SmilingDevil> So I'm having this interesting ipv6 issue, where I can't get the interface to come up
[15:54] <BluesKaj> and sudo apt-get autoclean
[15:54] <researcher123> BluesKaj: ok.doing it.Thereafter?
[15:54] <Dmole> lol; I don't think hispano will be any less Spanish.
[15:54] <apollo> what r u taking about?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> researcher123, that's it
[15:55] <researcher123> BluesKaj: ok.thanks for the help
[15:55] <Guest43297> guess i have to try backtrack
[15:56] <apollo> you can install backtrack tools on ubuntu too
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> Guest43297: why not use Ubuntu, the support is much larger
[15:57] <BluesKaj> renebarbosa, yw
[15:57] <renebarbosa> BluesKaj, ?
[15:57] <Guest43297> how do i do it
[15:57] <SmilingDevil> Ah, the wonders of Freenode
[15:57] <unsecur3d> Ubuntu is better,backtrack is more  vuln testifng distro
[15:58] <BluesKaj> oops sorry , renebarbosa , wrong nick
[15:58] <apollo> how do you install backtrack software on ubuntu?
[15:58] <renebarbosa> apollo, just add bt repositories on your system
[15:58] <renebarbosa> btw, use this at your own risk
[15:58] <Pici> ...
[15:58] <apollo> yes i know, i thought that Guest43279 wanted to know that..
[15:59] <apollo> is backtrack vulnerable?
[15:59] <SmilingDevil> uh
[15:59] <apollo> unsecur3d
[15:59] <apollo> wrote that
[15:59] <SmilingDevil> apollo, I wouldn't
[15:59] <unsecur3d> no
[16:00] <Pici> Why don't you ask them. Backtrack is not Ubuntu, and we will not support it here.
[16:00] <Pici> !backtrack
[16:00] <unsecur3d> depends on what u run in it
[16:01] <apollo> ah okay sorry, didn't know about the support problem..
[16:01] <SmilingDevil> Can anybody help with inet6 addresses not working?
[16:01] <apollo> what's your problem?
[16:02] <unsecur3d> Apollo backtraq is designed to audit security in systems not for an everyday user
[16:03] <unsecur3d> it isn't as supported by the community as ubuntu
[16:03] <apollo> yes I know, but I didn't know about the support, thanks ;)
[16:04] <SmilingDevil> apollo, it's not accepting it on boot-time, and does the stupid two minute wait
[16:05] <unsecur3d> yea if u on backtraq u on ur own
[16:05] <SmilingDevil> http://pastie.org/private/stog7ypbzj3qyirkkgcqw
[16:05] <churl> A wireless keyboard changed my laptop keyboard layout.  Running xubuntu.  Most keys are mapped correctly.
[16:06] <Sk1Special> how do i get the display on both my screens?
[16:06] <Sk1Special> its showing them both in system settings > displays.. but the second one just says no signal
[16:07] <Vivekananda> I downloaded and installed my printer driver from brother site
[16:07] <SmilingDevil> Sk1Special, do you have the correct graphics drivers?
[16:07] <Sk1Special> SmilingDevil, I should..they have worked in the past. I just havent used this pc in a couple months, and now they are not both working
[16:07] <churl> Sk1Special: use arandr and make display active
[16:08] <Sk1Special> churl, do what how? :p what command?
[16:08] <Vivekananda> but I dont see it still in the choose driver dialogue. how do I update drivers ( using ubuntu on vbox  and win7 host)
[16:08] <apollo> smilingDevil why dont you try with dhcp?
[16:08] <SmilingDevil> apollo, I don't want DHCP
[16:08] <SmilingDevil> This is a server
[16:08] <ttoine> is there ubuntuonair today ?
[16:08] <OerHeks> Vivekananda, sounds like a virtualbox issue.
[16:08] <SmilingDevil> I guess I could set up DHCP clients
[16:08] <Vivekananda> OerHeks: but isnt there a place I can update drivers ?
[16:09] <Vivekananda> on ubuntu
[16:09] <Vivekananda> stupid virtual box
[16:09] <Vivekananda> should I try vmware instead ?
[16:09] <unsecur3d> I can't wait for Ubuntu touch, mad excited
[16:09] <OerHeks> Vivekananda, i guess you better investigate howto print on virtualbox
[16:09] <apollo> yeah when will devices come out? when will we can buy them?
[16:09] <BluesKaj> Vivekananda, vbox uses it's own proprietary ubuntu driver
[16:09] <wolter> OerHeks: its just natural, just have to enable USB detection of the printer from the virtual machine
[16:10] <unsecur3d> I just want the os to get ir of android
[16:10] <unsecur3d> rid of*
[16:10] <churl> Sk1Special: try installing arandr and click "outputs" > then the monitor's name, then "active"
[16:10] <Vivekananda> BluesKaj: OerHeks I have downloaded drivers and installed then and enabled unix printing in my host win7 . Now when I click on "add printer " on the ubuntu I see the printer there  " connected to a usb port"  ( ie via vbox )
[16:11] <OerHeks> wolter, good point, that would be a good start
[16:11] <Vivekananda> what should I do now ? On clicking "forward" I get "searching for drivers "
[16:12] <apollo> gotta go, bye
[16:12] <Waka_Flocka> when will the ubuntu repos update firefox to v23?
[16:13] <Waka_Flocka> i hate waiting a day for this to happen
[16:13] <Sk1Special> wow.. im not even gonna say how i fixed that. t/y anyway tho
[16:13] <churl> Helps :) A wireless keyboard changed my laptop keyboard layout.  Running xubuntu.  Most keys are mapped correctly.
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: what is in the new release that is so key over the current version?
[16:14] <Waka_Flocka> im a support dude on support.mozilla.org
[16:15] <Waka_Flocka> so i need firefox 23 as fast as i can
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: but what's new?
[16:15] <Waka_Flocka> lemme see real quick
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: if you dont know then why do you need the new version
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: it makes no sense
[16:16] <Waka_Flocka> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/23.0beta/releasenotes/
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: yes but you didn't know what was ni the new vesion to 'need' it
[16:16] <Waka_Flocka> well i need it
[16:16] <OerHeks> Waka_Flocka, it will be in updates soon
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: you really shouldnt look at version number so much
[16:16] <Waka_Flocka> so you are saying firefox updates are useless
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: you dont, you think you do because newer is out
[16:16] <OerHeks> FF23 is still in beta :-D
[16:17] <Vivekananda> BluesKaj: how should I proceed ?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: they are good but packages with more significant patches etc will be given priority
[16:17] <Vivekananda> is there a way to update drivers in ubuntu ?
[16:17] <Waka_Flocka> which are>
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: think about it
[16:17] <Waka_Flocka> ?
[16:17] <gr33n7007h> Does any one no the command to screencast with mplayer?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: package A with huge vulnerability for user security, or newer firefox with slightly tweaked desktop icon
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: which gets priority?
[16:17] <Waka_Flocka> both
[16:18] <Waka_Flocka> did you read the rel notes
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: the one with greatest gain will be prioritised.
[16:18] <blochchain> how do i convert a unicode number to its corresponding char in the terminal?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: if you want a newer version there are PPAs
[16:18] <Waka_Flocka> is there a beta ppa?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: considering you didnt know, and had to look shows you are only looking at version numbers
[16:18] <Waka_Flocka> all ive seen is a nightly ppa
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | Waka_Flocka
[16:19] <Waka_Flocka> i know what a ppa is
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: it has the URL you can search the PPAs with, try reading ALL the text
[16:20] <Pici> Waka_Flocka: Firefox updates need to staged and tested before they will go out.  If this is a beta, it will not be released until it is final.
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=firefox   easy peasy
[16:21] <Waka_Flocka> can you also tell me why xorg crashes at startup at times?
[16:21] <altin> Hey guys, why does the writeback timeout stay so low all the time in my machine? I just checked /proc/sys/vm/dirty_writeback_centisecs and it says 500 ?
[16:21] <altin> That is waaaayy to low
[16:21] <Waka_Flocka> hopefully it isnt one day late
[16:21] <altin> I can tell by the speed of copying files to my hard drive
[16:22] <unsecur3d> wacka check logs
[16:22] <Waka_Flocka> well i have to go to #lubuntu for other stuff
[16:22] <altin> I changed it to 6000 and it works perfectly fine but I am not sure if I can play with that configuration
[16:23] <altin> Why does Ubuntu not recognize the speed of my hdd
[16:23] <altin> ?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> altin: http://forum.eeeuser.com/index.php?/topic/30219-persistent-dirty-writeback-centisecs-1500/
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> altin: obv, change the value
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> altin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReducedPowerUsage
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> altin: i'd put it in /etc/rc.local personally
[16:27] <karthik__> Internal Server Error
[16:27] <karthik__> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
[16:27] <karthik__> Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@localhost and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
[16:27] <karthik__> More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
[16:27] <karthik__> Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 80 Please help me
[16:27] <FloodBot1> karthik__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:28] <unsecur3d> what r u trying to do
[16:29] <karthik__> Internal Server Error after configuring LAMP please help me
[16:29] <Pici> !details | karthik__
[16:29] <unsecur3d> how did u setup ur lamp
[16:29] <ubuntu20490> is the updater manager the best way to update ubuntu or is it buggy like many other GUI updaters
[16:30] <Pici> ubuntu20490: it uses the same internals as all the other apt-based tool, there is no difference.
[16:30] <unsecur3d> I like to use CLI to update, GUI freezes at times
[16:30] <janelleb> Hey all, I installed 13.04 on my HP laptop (with an Intel Core i5-480M).. /proc/cpuinfo shows only on core and a system monitor shows the processor running constantly at 72-75 degrees Celcius. Is there any way I can get better (and cooler) performance here?
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> unsecur3d: then use CLI
[16:30] <unsecur3d> brb lunch
[16:31] <janelleb> *cpuinfo shows only one(1) core
[16:31] <Waka_Flocka> how can i update lubuntu to 13.10 alpha?
[16:32] <cerv0> hello evrebudy i'm using ubuntu since a while and i've been looking for an offline translator "englesh to french"but i can't find it is there anybody who can help me?
[16:32] <karthik__> after installing LAMP if i execute .php i get an error "Internal Server Error"
[16:32] <utter> I have 2 X 1 TB HDD , is it a good idea to use LVM ?
[16:32] <compdoc> Waka_Flocka, sounds like a bad idea
[16:33] <Waka_Flocka> can i get a way?
[16:33] <Eduard_Munteanu> Any #debian ops here? I found myself banned and don't know why.
[16:33] <karthik__> after installing LAMP if i execute .php i get an error "Internal Server Error" please help me
[16:34] <icelite> hi karthik__  reply
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: which release are you on now?
[16:35] <karthik__> After installing LAMP if i execute .php i get an error "500 Internal Server Error" please help me
[16:35] <Waka_Flocka> 13.04
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: then you can upgrade in one step using the web as it is the next release
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: support will only be in #ubuntu+1 til release day
[16:35] <Waka_Flocka> does this say reinstall?
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: does what say reinstall?
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: you can upgrade using the web
[16:36] <janelleb> Can anyone help me get Ubuntu 13.04 to detect the other core on my Intel Core i5-480M?
[16:36] <Waka_Flocka> upgrade using a command?
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: yes, let me find it for you
[16:36] <cerv0> hello evrebudy i'm using ubuntu since a while and i've been looking for an offline translator "englesh to french"but i can't find it is there anybody who can help me?
[16:37] <Vivekananda> hey everyone. Will using a vmware virtual environment be better for printer support ?
[16:37] <wilee-nilee> Eduard_Munteanu, Try #freenode for help
[16:37] <utter> I have 2 X 1 TB HDD , is it a good idea to use LVM ?
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: http://linuxg.net/how-to-update-upgrade-from-ubuntu-13-04-to-ubuntu-13-10-saucy-salamander/   use the second command in that guide
[16:37] <Waka_Flocka> alright thanks
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: -d == (D)evelopment version
[16:37] <icelite> Vivekananda:  hey you never responsded
[16:37] <icelite> :(
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: it may be a bumpy ride, it is not ready and not stable
[16:38] <Waka_Flocka> yeah i know
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: its just so I said the usual warning. I'm sure you are aware :D
[16:39] <Eduard_Munteanu> wilee-nilee: thanks
[16:39] <karthik__> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. After installing LAMP Server Please help me
[16:39] <cerv0_> hello evrebody i'm using ubuntu since a while and i've been looking for an offline translator "englesh to french"but i can't find it is there anybody who can help me?
[16:40] <Vivekananda> icelite: I told you :) I am stuck up with things
[16:40] <icelite> ah :P
[16:40] <Vivekananda> right now trying to find out if should use vbox or switch to vmware ?
[16:40] <Vivekananda> anyone ?
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: try both
[16:41] <Vivekananda> I tried vbox
[16:41] <kgalahassa> on ubuntu 12.10 , can i find an utility which will permit me to aspirate an article extended on many web pages , in format pdf?
[16:42] <Goatman> that’s the wrong verb? Aspirate?
[16:42] <moonpie> hello, i am using ubuntu 13.04. i would like to password protect a folder without having to move the files to a new folder and then having to use fuser. cryptkeeper was suggested to me but its not what i am looking for.
[16:42] <xtrez> isn't it possible to remove the unity launcher ?
[16:43] <cerv0_> hello evrobudy i'm using ubuntu since a while and i've been looking for an offline translator "englesh to french"but i can't find it is there anybody who can help me?
[16:43] <wilee-nilee> xtrez, You can hide it at best
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> moonpie: why not just chmod the folder to 700 and then only the owner user will have acces, bit easier
[16:44] <wilee-nilee> xtrez, You might try other desktops.
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> xtrez: You can disable it in ccsm but you will need a panel application to run
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> xtrez: if you install gnome-panel you can log off and select that session, allowing you to keep the Gnome desktop as in Unity
[16:44] <kgalahassa> on ubuntu 12.10 , can i find an utility which will permit me to aspirate an article extended on many web pages , in format pdf?
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> kgalahassa: do you mean print web pages to pdf/
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> ?
[16:45] <Goatman> maybe translate?
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> kgalahassa: try using simpler terms
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> kgalahassa: or a channel in your native language
[16:46] <moonpie> ActionParsnip, Thanks for the suggestion, but if someone is using my computer  logged in under my name won't they be able to open the file easily. or am i mssing something.
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> moonpie: yes unstopped, as its the same username, thats why you should have a username for each user of the system
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> moonpie: your OS can hold literally billions of users
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> moonpie: 4 billion to be precise
[16:49] <xtrez> wilee-nilee, ok trying other desktops too. :)
[16:49] <xtrez> ActionParsnip, by gnome-panel you meant that gnome2 panel ?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-panel
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> xtrez: nope, gnome-panel
[16:50] <kgalahassa> ActionParsnip, yes,  and i want a software which can do it, printing all web pages linked on the same pdf file, for ex, like latex2pdf, which convert pdffiles into html pages, it is needed the program do so converting html pages into one pdf file
[16:50] <mot> is /mnt/USB/...  actually on my hd with ubuntu or is it a way of referring to my usb?
[16:50] <xtrez> ActionParsnip, let me check out than ;)
[16:51] <saiarcot895> kgalahassa: isn't there a Print to File option in the Print dialog window, which lets you print to PDF?
[16:51] <saiarcot895> *save to PDF
[16:52] <Goatman> kgalahassa: Do you want do download a site for offline viewing in .pdf format?
[16:53] <kgalahassa> Goatman, yes
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> kgalahassa: you can print to PDF and make lots of PDFs. I believe imagemagicks 'convert' command can combine PDFs
[16:53] <Goatman> +
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> !info pdftk
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> YES!
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> kgalahassa: pdftk input1.pdf input2.pdf input3.pdf cat output result.pdf
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> kgalahassa: you'll need pdftk installing
[16:54] <moonpie> ActionParsnip, its just someone is going to fix an issue on my comp. im going to be there and some weird stuff is going on in my home folder. i just wanted a little extra protection without having to go the cryptkeeper route. i already backed up but just wanted to keep folders there while tweak was going on. do you think its better just delete the directories and restore once done.
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> kgalahassa: http://www.ubuntuhowtos.com/howtos/merge_pdf_files
[16:55] <kgalahassa> ok
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> kgalahassa: easy stuff :)
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> moonpie: could hide the folder, or move it to /opt to hide by obscurity
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> moonpie: otherwise not sure
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> moonpie: maybe others can advise
[16:56] <Goatman> What is going on in the home folder?
[16:56] <moonpie> ActionParsnip, moving to /opt is a great idea. thank you!
[16:56] <Goatman> What is the comp issue?
[16:57] <karthik__> If i execute .php file 500 internal server error after installing LAMP can any i help me please
[16:58] <daftykins> karthik__: a bit more detail please, what's the .php of? a test?
[16:59] <rhagu> hi, I would like to add a udev rule to /lib/udev/rules.d/95-keymap.rules for this device: http://pastebin.com/vZHssJnC but I do not how to identify it correctly. I changed the name of the keymap file but I have no idea about product_name or DMI_VENDOR: http://pastebin.com/JZXBYNjk
[16:59] <Walex> karthik__: look at the server logs
[17:00] <Walex> rhagu: look at the DBUS logs to see how it is identified and use the same strings
[17:00] <antipathy> just some scripts practice
[17:01] <rhagu> Walex how can I do this?
[17:01] <webderver> Hey qq, is there any way to get Ubuntu onto virtualbox/vmware in windows 8 with UEFI/secure boot enabled?
[17:01] <killer> whenever I run gedit from terminal gedit launches but gives "** (gedit:32351): WARNING **: Can't load fallback CSS resource: Failed to import: The resource at '/org/gnome/adwaita/gtk-fallback.css' does not exist
[17:01] <killer> "
[17:01] <antipathy> exit()
[17:02] <OerHeks> webderver, that would be a #virtualbox or ##windows question
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> killer: is it just gedit, or gksudo gedit?
[17:02] <Walex> rhagu: probably by looking at lines marked 'udev' in /var/log/daemon.log or equivalent
[17:02] <webderver> mmmk thanks OerHeks
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> killer: or 'sudo gedit'
[17:03] <killer> ActionParsnip: still the same result
[17:03] <Walex> rhagu: there is also some kind of udev/dbus command to list all devices it knows but can't remember it
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> killer: its was a question...which is it
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> killer: I never suggested a fix
[17:04] <rhagu> Walex udevadm is what I used and they are listed at proc/bus/input
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> killer: are you using the fallback session?
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> killer: for gnome?
[17:04] <killer> ActionParsnip: Yes fallback mode
[17:05] <OerHeks> killer, those messages are normal.
[17:05] <utter> LVM worth it with 2 HDD ?
[17:05] <killer> I was just curious , gedit or gtk3 are working fine
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> killer: seems the theme you have has issues with the fallback mode
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> utter: it'll allow you to expand partitions later, so the number of drives you have now is moot
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> killer: http://www.zoringroup.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5052
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> killer: do you have librsvg installed?
[17:07] <utter> ActionParsnip: Is it stable ? many people use it ?
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> killer: https://bitbucket.org/shuerhaaken/xnoise/issue/51/xnoise-0218-crash-before-loading
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> utter: lots, especially server folks
[17:07] <utter> Im working on the server.
[17:07] <moonpie> ActionParsnip, maybe you can help with other issue? i have a phantom generic usb2 that i cant eject, detatch from udisks. it appeared after i reformatted a misbehaving usb stick. it persists in /dev/disks/by-*, and also appears lsscsi. it doesn't show up in blkid or fstab/mtab. i can only temporarily detatch it by the command: echo "scsi remove-single-device <H> <B> <T> <L>" > /proc/scsi/scsi. but it reappears on reboot. i dd'd the hd im usi
[17:07] <moonpie> ng and did a clean install and the issue persists. the disk slaso appears as a file in /home as sdb. it is so weird. any thoughts?
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> utter: allows easy growing and shrinking of partitions as you need
[17:08] <Walex> rhagu: sorry, don;t know more than that
[17:08] <utter> ActionParsnip: Alright thanks.
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> utter: i'd look at youtube vids and such, see what its about
[17:08] <utter> alright
[17:09] <Waka_Flocka> ActionParsnip: see https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions top contributors
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: yeah....
[17:10] <Waka_Flocka> just sayin
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+topcontributors
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: top contributor in all of launchpad, which also supports firefox...
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: whats your point?
[17:10] <Waka_Flocka> huh
[17:10] <Waka_Flocka> nothing
[17:10] <Waka_Flocka> just i need the package
[17:10] <Waka_Flocka> or ill just use nightly
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: looks like you'l be on the nightly PPA
[17:11] <Waka_Flocka> yep
[17:11] <OerHeks> Waka_Flocka, no need for "nightly build" >>> https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> Waka_Flocka: fyi, I support firefox but I a) hate it and b) don't use it
[17:12] <pvl1> anyone comment on how well netflix works on the latest ubuntu
[17:12] <OerHeks> Waka_Flocka, but be carefull, we do not support PPA's
[17:12] <Waka_Flocka> yeah i know
[17:12] <xtrez> ActionParsnip, what's the name of package to install ccsm ?
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> pvl1: its a hack, i'd contact the PPA maintainer
[17:12] <Waka_Flocka> i love firefox
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> xtrez: run 'ccsm' in a terminal, it will tell you
[17:13] <pvl1> ActionParsnip: i know, but its the deciding factor between an ubuntu or winblows media center
[17:13] <pvl1> ima ask offtopic
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> pvl1: id ask the ppa maintainer
[17:13] <pvl1> hm
[17:13] <pvl1> alright
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> pvl1: its "windows" too, winblows isnt a thing
[17:14] <xtrez> ActionParsnip, after removing unity is that possible that i can use the unity lens ?
[17:14] <pvl1> ActionParsnip: its a thing if it angers you as much as it angers me
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> xtrez: no because you need to use unity to use the lenses
[17:14] <xtrez> ActionParsnip, ok
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> xtrez: no need to remove unity, if you use fallback gnome or a completely different DE then Unity wont even load
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> xtrez: the space Unity uses it quite small
[17:16] <xtrez> ActionParsnip, i am not removing it.
[17:16] <xtrez> ActionParsnip, in which lang is unity written ?
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> xtrez: i recommend it, lots easier to leave it on and just log in to the other session
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> xtrez: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_%28user_interface%29
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> xtrez: look on the right
[17:17] <xtrez> thanks ActionParsnip to pointing out this link :)
[17:18] <utter> ActionParsnip: If I have 2 HDD and suppose I make a folder X , can I use symlinks to that folder X in such a way that it uses both the HDD ?
[17:18] <utter> HDD space*
[17:19] <pvl1> utter: why would u want that? your read will decreases because files will be fragmented over two drives and search will be longer
[17:19] <moonpie> i have a phantom generic usb2 that i cant eject, detach from udisks (gui application:Disks. it appeared after i reformatted a misbehaving usb stick. it persists in /dev/disks/by-*, and also appears lsscsi. it doesn't show up in gparted, blkid or fstab/mtab. i can only temporarily detach it by the command: echo "scsi remove-single-device <H> <B> <T> <L>" > /proc/scsi/scsi. but it reappears on reboot. i dd'd the hd im using and did a clean ins
[17:19] <moonpie> tall and the issue persists. the disk also appears as a file in /home as sdb. it is so weird. any suggestions?
[17:19] <pvl1> utter: instead syslink a dir, keep thing together
[17:20] <sporkeee> What is the hot key for hud in the gnome shell?
[17:20] <utter> may i PM pvl1 ?
[17:20] <lolcat> http://imgur.com/ryWcrKQ <- can I disable that?
[17:20] <pvl1> utter: yes
[17:21] <pvl1> moonpie: it appears in the disks application you say?
[17:21] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: i didnt even know that existed. do you mean the terminal or shell
[17:22] <moonpie> pvl1, yes it appears in disk, udisks --dump, /dev/disk/by-*
[17:22] <moonpie> disks not disk
[17:22] <wilee-nilee> pvl1, Nah, the gnome 3 desktop called the shell, I was just wondering if hud is there.
[17:23] <Vivekananda> finally got it working via another script
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> called the gnome-shell in ubuntu anyway
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> utter: symlinks dont work like that]
[17:23] <Vivekananda> someone just told me not to run scripts from the net
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> utter: symlinks also MUST be on the same drive, only hard links can be on different disks
[17:23] <Vivekananda> but in this case the guy had given it out
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> utter: sounds like you want RAID1
[17:23] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: http://askubuntu.com/questions/226307/how-to-install-a-brother-hl2270dw-laser-printer
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: brother make driver debs, go to their website
[17:24] <ikillcypher> hi guys is there anyway to set a timer shut down?
[17:24] <Vivekananda> if it is not too much trouble could you just glance at it , the second one and
[17:24] <Vivekananda> and tell me if the script has nothing suspicious. It is a small one so I am asking
[17:25] <pvl1> moonpie: your saying its a usb?
[17:25] <moonpie> pvl1, its a phantom usb. it is not attached.
[17:25] <pvl1> moonpie: and lsusb doesnt see it either
[17:25] <utter> ActionParsnip: I see
[17:26] <moonpie> pvl1, no lsusb doesnt see it
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: http://pastie.org/8212161
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: thats all you need
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: 2 debs installed in the right order
[17:26] <Jart> Hi, I am a semi-new user, and I am having a problem running 13.04 on my MacBook Pro 6,2. I'm pretty sure it has hybrid graphics. I wanted to use my external VGA monitor (connected through a MiniDisplay port), so I looked all around for a solution, and found out I should give Bumblebee a try. I did, and it messed everything up. I tried reinstalling Ubuntu, but it ended up kicking me into text-only mode. Startx makes the screen flicker a
[17:27] <ikillcypher> hi guys is there anyway to set a timer shut down???
[17:27] <Jart> "unity" command does not work either
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> ikillcypher: after a certain amount of time you mean?
[17:27] <daftykins> ikillcypher: yes, with the shutdown command and some switches. hit up the man page
[17:27] <ikillcypher> yes
[17:28] <ikillcypher> 3 Hours
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> ikillcypher: as daftykins says, check the man page for shutdown
[17:28] <ikillcypher> 180 Mins ?
[17:28] <pvl1> moonpie: kool, whats the command to see user perm on a dir
[17:28] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: didn't realise you replied first! my bad
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: no, you did :)
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: jump in dude :D
[17:29] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: I alread did what you said but did not get the printer to show up
[17:29] <Vivekananda> but when I ran the script I saw it
[17:29] <moonpie> pvl1, the phantom usb stick appears as Generic- xD/SD/M.S. 1.0 in Disks and lsscsi
[17:29] <Vivekananda> :(
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> ikillcypher: sudo shutdown -h 3600    if memory serves
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: try:  http://localhost:631
[17:29] <ikillcypher> The system is going down for maintenance in 180 minutes!
[17:29] <ikillcypher> so how will I know that the system will shut down 3 hrs later
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> ikillcypher: you can use:   sudo shutdown -a   to abort the shutdown
[17:29] <ikillcypher> cause Im going to sleep
[17:30] <moonpie> pvli, the sdb file that appears in /home has octal perm 644
[17:30] <moonpie> pvl1, is that what you mean?
[17:30] <pvl1> moonpie: one sec
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: thanks for reminding me that shutdown has a timer, I was going to mess with:  sudo at
[17:31] <Jart> Anyone?
[17:31] <pvl1> moonpie: no thats not what i meant. theres a certain command to show permissions on dir/files
[17:31] <moonpie> pvl1, ls -la?
[17:31] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: :D my pleasure
[17:32] <ikillcypher> so now the system will auto shut down at 180 mins later
[17:32] <ikillcypher> without me doing anything?
[17:32] <moonpie> pvl1, i have a script i use to show octal permissions when i use ls
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Jart: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro6-2/Precise   may help
[17:32] <explodes> My /etc/fstab got overwritten I think? What gives...
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> ikillcypher: yes its all scheduled to rock
[17:32] <ikillcypher> ty nights
[17:32] <moonpie> pvl1, the sdb file is owned by root
[17:32] <Jart> ActionParsnip: I used that, but that still doesn't give me the advice I need. I can't boot into Unity after I tried to install bumblebee
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> Jart: you sure it has a dual GPU?
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> Jart: install the xfce4 package and log in to that from LightDM
[17:33] <wilee-nilee> explodes, You think?
[17:33] <Jart> ActionParsnip: pretty sure. there's a graphics switching option on my OS X partition
[17:33] <Jart> how do i do that?
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Jart: is it ok with Ubuntu 12.04?
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Jart: you do realise that Raring is EOL in Jan 2014...
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Jart: you can run:   sudo apt-get install xfce4
[17:35] <moonpie> pvl1, sdb also appears in /media/username/ when i use the ls command but if iuse the ls -ls command it doesnt appear
[17:35] <Jart> yeah. i know. 12.04 was a little wonky for me. 13.04 works much better for me
[17:35] <moonpie> pvl1, ls -ls --> ls -la
[17:35] <Jart> seems much more compatible
[17:35] <daftykins> Jart: which model macbook?
[17:36] <daftykins> oh sorry you said
[17:36] <pvl1> moonpie: can you pm me plz
[17:36] <Jart> 6,2
[17:36] <Jart> daftykins: 6,2
[17:36] <Jart> mid 2010
[17:36] <moonpie> pvl1, sure
[17:36] <daftykins> Jart: which processor?
[17:36] <Jart> i5
[17:36] <daftykins> exactly?
[17:36] <daftykins> there are two i5s
[17:36] <Jart> 2.4ghz intel core i5
[17:37] <rawrisaurous> Anyone have any idea why the wired tab in network doesn't exist? Any solutions
[17:37] <daftykins> ok nvidia GT 330M
[17:37] <Jart> yeah
[17:37] <Jart> sorry
[17:37] <daftykins> Jart: at a guess i'd imagine the 'nvidia optimus' approach isn't really guaranteed on an Apple system
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> rawrisaurous: does your Ethernet controller have a driver
[17:37] <Jart> yeah, that's what messed everything up
[17:37] <Jart> i tried bumblebee
[17:37] <daftykins> yep
[17:37] <Jart> and now unity isn't working
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> rawrisaurous: did you set it's IP in /etc/network/interfaces  by any chance?
[17:38] <daftykins> Jart: so there's some way of using - is it bootcamp stuff to force which GPU to be active for other Oss?
[17:38] <daftykins> *OSs
[17:38] <__raven> xubuntu 13.04: what is PowerChute plus and ADMD? and how to remove
[17:38] <wilee-nilee> !enter | Jart
[17:39] <daftykins> wilee-nilee: he's responding to questions.
[17:39] <Jart> daftykins: yeah, but that's only if you install it through non-EFI
[17:39] <Jart> i didn't have a blank CD
[17:40] <wilee-nilee> daftykins, I can see that but in multiple lines not needed. ;)
[17:41] <Jart> sorry about that wilee... i finish typing something and then another thought pops into my head
[17:41] <daftykins> ok well try and relax on the ol' triggers, seems unnecessary
[17:41] <daya> Could any one plz suggest how to use preseed to partition hard drive  separately ( / /opt /home /boot etc)
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> Jart, It happens no biggie.
[17:41] <daftykins> Jart: ah ok so you were forced to do an EFI install?
[17:41] <Jart> pretty much
[17:41] <__raven> xubuntu 13.04: what is PowerChute plus and ADMD? and how to remove
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> __raven:  PowerChute plus appears to be a UPS thing
[17:42] <troyready> Anyone here using Ubuntu on a MS Surface Pro as a daily use workstation? Curious for thoughts on it given the recent price drop....
[17:42] <__raven> ActionParsnip, its installed automatically on both systems and has open ports - how to remove that?
[17:42] <daftykins> Jart: you could take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see why when running 'startx' it's depositing some bricks on the ground
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> __raven: admd appears to be ADministration Management DOMAIN
[17:43] <wilee-nilee> troyready, Supposedly a fairly easy dual boot, buy one and tellus. ;)
[17:43] <__raven> ActionParsnip, how to remove both i do not need that
[17:43] <Jart> daftykins: I tried that. it said (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Fatal server error: no screens found
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> __raven: not sure, could look at power options to see if UPS stuff is there
[17:43] <daftykins> Jart: were you reinstalling and diagnosing with the VGA display permanently attached?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> __raven: or look at the commands listening and search for them at http://packages.ubuntu.com and remove those (if possible)
[17:44] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: I tried the :631. nothing shows after clicking "printer"
[17:44] <Jart> i mean i have it plugged into my minidisplay port. is that what you mean by "permanent"?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> __raven: alternatively, use ufw / iptables to block traffic in and out of those ports
[17:44] <daftykins> Jart: yeah as in not using the internal display
[17:44] <Jart> should i try unplugging that first?
[17:44] <Jart> didn't really think to try that
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: administration tab -> under Printers -> add printer button
[17:44] <daftykins> Jart: i think unplug and reboot would be a considerable variable yeah
[17:45] <Jart> alright. i'll try that and i'll be right back. if that works, i need help finding out how to use my external monitor
[17:45] <daftykins> Jart: zapping the PRAM could be worth a go if bumblebee changed something too - are you familiar with that?
[17:45] <nurow> Hello, I was wondering if anyone could help me with getting half decent clickpad support on my laptop. I have a Clevo P370SM (Same click pad as P370EM), which is resold as the System 76 Bonobo Extreme (an Ubuntu laptop). Unfortunately the clickpad support is horrible and System76 hasn't yet written a clickpad driver for the laptop. Is there anything else I could look at to improve performance? The cursor jumps whenever I press down on the p
[17:45] <nurow> ad, making it very hard to use, and palm recognition is non-existent
[17:46] <Jart> thanks for your help, daftykins. ooh, never thought to try resetting the PRAM. although it works just fine on my OS X partition
[17:46] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: it is already there !!
[17:46] <__raven> ActionParsnip, there is nothing related to that. must be possible to remove what i did not want
[17:46] <daftykins> Jart: yeah it might have set a setting that ubuntu cries at though
[17:46] <troyready> wilee-nilee, :) I might just do that
[17:46] <Jart> daftykins: right now, i'm on my OS X side using both my screens no problem... alright i'm gonna go try what you said and i'll be right back
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: cool, then I suggest you reboot and try stuff
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> nurow, So this is fro system 76 right, they have a section at the ubuntu forums.
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: or remove printer then reboot then readd
[17:47] <ALLTHECODE> How do you downgrade to raring from saucy?
[17:47] <Vivekananda> one more glitch
[17:47] <daftykins> ALLTHECODE: you can't downgrade
[17:47] <Vivekananda> when I reboot then the printer is not enabled
[17:47] <ALLTHECODE> I can't?
[17:47] <daftykins> nope
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> ALLTHECODE, Thats an upgrade
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> ALLTHECODE: reinstall
[17:47] <ALLTHECODE> There is a PPA I need to use that only works on raring
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> ALLTHECODE: oh from raring to saucy..
[17:47] <Vivekananda> sorry it is not connected to the usb as a device. I have to manually check it
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> ALLTHECODE, sorry missread that
[17:48] <ALLTHECODE> How do I keep this thing from updating to whatever the next latest version is the next time one comes out?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> ALLTHECODE: if you want saucy you ca tell upgrade-manager to grab the development release
[17:48] <daftykins> ALLTHECODE: don't click 'upgrade' :D
[17:48] <Traccy> any idea about this error http://pastie.org/8212195
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> ALLTHECODE: the standing packages installed will be installed, but the PPAs will not hit unless they support Saucy
[17:48] <daftykins> !locale | Traccy
[17:49] <ALLTHECODE> ActionParsnip: is there any way to make it install the PPA's packages?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> ALLTHECODE: you wont lose them if you upgrade online rather than clean install
[17:50] <ALLTHECODE> well I mean I'm already on saucy
[17:50] <ALLTHECODE> but I need to use a ppa that only supports raring
[17:50] <daftykins> i really think you're going to have to go back
[17:51] <nurow> ah, Wilee-nilee, do you have a link to that?
[17:51] <Skeptix> Hey, when I lower the volume below 30% it mutes (like if it were at 0%). I had that problem before, but I don't remember how I fixed it. I can't remember the key words for that issue. Someone?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> ALLTHECODE: then you could contact the ppa maintainer to see if they will support saucy in the future
[17:51] <ALLTHECODE> yeah I have no idea how to "go back"
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> ALLTHECODE: they dont have to, there is no control as it is a PPA
[17:51] <factotum> anyone know a quick way to find how much memory my video card has via bash?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> ALLTHECODE: if you want to go back to raring you will need to reinstall
[17:52] <ALLTHECODE> ActionParsnip: can that be done without losing everything?
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> ALLTHECODE: your backups will protect against that
[17:52] <n0sq> why doesn't the remote computers shut down AND power off with sudo halt? ubuntu 13.04
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> factotum: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-find-linux-vga-video-card-ram/
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> factotum: took me 30 seconds to find
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> ALLTHECODE, Is this like one app, or a series you want locked?
[17:52] <daftykins> factotum: what brand GPU is it?
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> factotum: went to google: bash show video card memory
[17:53] <ALLTHECODE> One app.
[17:53] <daftykins> n0sq: i only ever use sudo shutdown -h 0 so *shrug* maybe don't use halt? 'halt' doesn't say 'power off' to me
[17:53] <factotum> ActionParsnip: congrats
[17:53] <n0sq> my connection to the remote machines are thru ssh
[17:54] <daftykins> n0sq: yes...?
[17:54] <Jart> daftykins: didn't work
[17:54] <factotum> sorry, dont have X at the moment
[17:54] <daftykins> Jart: flash of X failing on the internal display too?
[17:54] <Jart> yeah
[17:55] <Jart> still kicking me to text-only, won't boot unity
[17:55] <n0sq> daftykins: i'll give shutdown a try
[17:55] <daftykins> Jart: then PRAM zap, double chime, same result?
[17:55] <Jart> yup
[17:55] <caboose885> n0sq: what command are you using?
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> factotum: lspci -v -s `lspci | grep VGA | awk {'print $1'}` | head -n 5 | tail -n 1 | awk {'print $6'}
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> factotum: works here
[17:55] <factotum> ActionParsnip: thank you
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> factotum: how come I could find that guide so fast? Have you seen that URL I gave?
[17:55] <daftykins> Jart: ok, when booting whatever install media you made, i take it X comes up fine?
[17:56] <Jart> daftykins: yeah, LiveUSB works perfectly
[17:56] <Jart> I also tried a full reinstall
[17:56] <daftykins> Jart: might be interesting comparing the Xorg logs from the Live boot vs. the install
[17:56] <factotum> ActionParsnip: I don't have a functioning X environment atm. Not sure how to copy paste from irssi into, say, links or lynx or whichever
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> factotum: i see.
[17:57] <Jart> daftykins: would it help to get those both on the paste link so someone can take a look?
[17:57] <daftykins> Jart: well maybe one pastebin each so they can be put side by side
[17:58] <daftykins> Jart: i'd genuinely think that the VGA element will be an issue, i'd maybe reinstall with the internal display only. what screen config does the LiveUSB boot into?
[17:58] <Jart> daftykins: just my laptop screen. the external monitor never worked to begin with. it's blank 100% of the time
[17:58] <daftykins> ah ok
[17:59] <daftykins> if it's even connected i'd be concerned it'd be hassling things
[17:59] <Jart> when I installed 13.04 before, it worked fine until i tried bumblebee. that's what messed X all up
[17:59] <daftykins> yep
[17:59] <Jart> (my external monitor still didn't work, but at least I could boot into unity)
[18:00] <Jart> daftykins: anyway, i'll get you those Xorg logs. see if that sheds any light
[18:00] <daftykins> cool
[18:03] <jgcampbell300> can anyone tell me about Arandr on xfce crashing all the time with ubuntu 13.04
[18:05] <daftykins> jgcampbell300: are you saying it does?
[18:05] <jgcampbell300> daftykins, ya ... its the only thing i can think is causing all the crashes
[18:05] <daftykins> so it's not the program crashing...?
[18:06] <jgcampbell300> daftykins, i have no idea ... i am trying to find witch log this would bre under now
[18:06] <biergaizi> Hello. Is there any Ubuntu users? I just need the default value of file-max in Ubuntu, run cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max. Tell me the result and your version, thanks!
[18:07] <daftykins> jgcampbell300: well if this 'Arandr' program is crashing, maybe run it from in a terminal to see if it's spitting out a log of what it's up to?
[18:07] <daftykins> biergaizi: 10.04.4 LTS = 11207
[18:07] <daftykins> (server)
[18:07] <jgcampbell300> daftykins, arandr is for multi monitors ... i think its crashing xfac kuz i have to log in every time it crashes
[18:08] <biergaizi> daftykins: Thanks
[18:08] <jgcampbell300> daftykins, do you know what log file the gui is in
[18:08] <jgcampbell300> maybe xorg
[18:08] <daftykins> jgcampbell300: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:08] <nurow> Hello, I was wondering if anyone could help me with getting half decent clickpad support on my laptop. I have a Clevo P370SM (Same click pad as P370EM), which is resold as the System 76 Bonobo Extreme (an Ubuntu laptop). Unfortunately the clickpad support is horrible and System76 hasn't yet written a clickpad driver for the laptop. Is there anything else I could look at to improve performance? The cursor jumps whenever I press down on the p
[18:08] <nurow> ad, making it very hard to use, and palm recognition is non-existent
[18:09] <jgcampbell300> daftykins, just looked and theres no errors there ... guess ill look throu some more logs
[18:09] <daftykins> jgcampbell300: well that one is only X startup in fairness, probably not apt for your current query
[18:10] <Jart> daftykins: here is the liveUSB (http://paste.ubuntu.com/5955910/) and here is the messed up one (http://paste.ubuntu.com/5955911/)
[18:10] <vikamith> how to install lamp server on lubuntu 13.04
[18:10] <daftykins> vikamith: desktop or server?
[18:10] <daftykins> vikamith: run sudo tasksel in a terminal
[18:10] <vikamith> desktop
[18:10] <jgcampbell300> daftykins, i see maybe i am using bad software for running multi monitors
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> !lamp
[18:10] <daftykins> Jart: ok taking a look
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> vikamith, Might start with a look at the bots message.
[18:11] <vikamith> ok
[18:15] <jgcampbell300> daftykins, think i found it ... ERROR: apport (pid 3797) Tue Aug  6 12:59:12 2013: apport: report /var/crash/_usr_bin_xfce4-session.1000.crash already exists and unseen, doing nothing to avoid disk usage DoS
[18:15] <daftykins> Jart: ah at this point i recall something - the liveUSB naturally boots with its' existing versions of packages, i.e. kernel version etc etc, whilst you may have installed it with updates enabled - if your internet connection was active at that time it would've installed all the updates - potentially putting on a kernel/more that breaks. do you think that was likely? (you installed with updates?)
[18:17] <Jart> daftykins: i didn't install the packages at the initial install. i did it after the first run. the first run worked just fine. i had installed it this way in the past, and before bumblebee, it worked just fine
[18:18] <daftykins> Jart: ok, so far the difference i'm seeing in the logs is DRI being loaded at line 255 on the Live, but it isn't on the install
[18:18] <daftykins> Jart: also it looks like whilst the live picks nouveau for the nvidia, the install is going for VESA
[18:19] <vikamith> ubottu
[18:19] <Jart> daftykins: so how do i fix it? should i just install it again, but with the internet turned off?
[18:19] <Jart> then what should i do about the updates?
[18:20] <vikamith> ubottu,  i have  2 install  all provided in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[18:20] <Jart> i just want it back to the way it worked before i tried installing bumblebee (which i purged) hahahaha
[18:20] <daftykins> Jart: so the current broken install - is that updated or not?
[18:20] <Jart> yes
[18:21] <Nuub007> Hey all question about upgrade
[18:22] <Nuub007> currently running Maverick and trying to upgrade incrementally. Not working due to strange error. Documentation fixes appear complicated. Need help
[18:22] <daftykins> Jart: i'd hold shift when booting it to try the older kernel from the GRUB boot menu
[18:22] <Jart> will do. brb
[18:23] <auronandace> Nuub007: all releases between maverick and precise are no longer supported, it would be best to just fresh install
[18:24] <thecodethinker> Is there a bug with clang on ubuntu?
[18:24] <thecodethinker> I saw one for natty but I'm not sure if it's still there. It never said solved
[18:24] <auronandace> thecodethinker: natty is no longer supported
[18:25] <thecodethinker> auronandace: I'm not using natty. There was a bug reported for natty and it never said solved. I wanted to know if a clang bug exists in raring
[18:25] <Nuub007> auronandace: Would fresh install import my current files and settings or will I have to back up everything again?
[18:25] <auronandace> Nuub007: backup
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> Nuub007  backup is always a good idea
[18:25] <Nuub007> auronandace: Thanks
[18:26] <auronandace> thecodethinker: search launchpad
[18:26] <auronandace> !launchpad | thecodethinker
[18:27] <thecodethinker> auronandace: there is no bug page for it...
[18:27] <Jart> daftykins: still didn't work :(
[18:28] <daftykins> well at least it's consistent ;x
[18:29] <daftykins> Jart: can you see what i was pointing out between the logs, how the Live does the 'using VT number 7' as does the install at line 241 on both - then they totally diverge?
[18:29] <auronandace> thecodethinker: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clang
[18:29] <thecodethinker> auronandace: yeah i was there. there is no bug page
[18:29] <daftykins> Jart: the install errors with 'KMS not enabled' whilst the live carries on happy
[18:29] <thecodethinker> auronandace: is not clickable for me -_-
[18:29] <Jart> daftykins: yeah, i did notice that. is there a way to just change that in a file
[18:29] <auronandace> thecodethinker: can't you see the link saying 6 new bugs
[18:30] <auronandace> thecodethinker: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clang/+bugs?field.status:list=NEW
[18:31] <thecodethinker> auronandace: thank you. The bug is there but there is no fix -_-
[18:31] <thecodethinker> auronandace: do you use clang?
[18:31] <thecodethinker> it seems like ti can't find the c++ libs
[18:31] <auronandace> thecodethinker: i'm not an expert, i've only used it on minix
[18:31] <daftykins> Jart: i would be curious whether there's an /etc/X11/xorg.conf present in the install - likely it'd be a no because everything should just be auto detect at boot. creating one *might* be the way to go
[18:32] <daftykins> Jart: check out the very end of this page after 'Configuring the X server' : http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/InstallNouveau/
[18:32] <elisangela_> boa tarde
[18:32] <Pici> !br | elisangela_
[18:32] <daftykins> Jart: if there's no xorg.conf in your install, try creating one with that content
[18:32] <daftykins> Jart: give it a boot then pastebin the xorg.conf if it doesn't work
[18:32] <Jart> daftykins: having an xorg.conf has always led to trouble for me, but i'd be down to try it. seems like the only option now
[18:33] <elisangela_> sorry
[18:33] <Jart> daftykins: will do. thanks again!
[18:34] <dak0> Hello hardware channel in freenode, I have few GPU,CPU related questions
[18:35] <Pici> dak0: Hello dak0, this is #ubuntu, not ##hardware
[18:35] <arleas> Please help! Every time I install the ATI drivers in order to make my fan run quietly under 13.04, Ubuntu will boot OK for the first few times and then hang at the login screen after the chime. No idea how to recover it - last time I reinstalled the OS.
[18:35] <dak0> Pici: how do i join hardware channel?
[18:36] <Pici> dak0: type: /join ##hardware
[18:37] <daftykins> arleas: 'chime'? as in it's an Apple device?
[18:37] <arleas> daftykins: the login sound
[18:37] <katarine> minha estereia neste canal
[18:37] <__raven> do you know about a honeypot distribution?
[18:38] <auronandace> __raven: ask in ##linux
[18:38] <katarine> quem e voce
[18:38] <daftykins> arleas: hmm i don't really have any experience with the ATI drivers, is it a 5000 series card or newer?
[18:38] <dak0> pici: thanks
[18:38] <arleas> daftykins: 6870
[18:39] <tomas7470> join bash
[18:39] <tomas7470> join #bash
[18:39] <blazemore> arleas: Do you mean you're trying to install the proprietry "fglrx" driver provided by AMD, rather than the open source one that comes with Ubuntu? You have a 6870 and you are running 64-bit Ubuntu 13.04?
[18:39] <daftykins> tomas7470: have a /
[18:40] <arleas> blazemore: Yes, it's been suggested as the only cure for the extremely high fan speed provided by the open source driver
[18:40] <Ghostring> how can I remove the custom Unity I installed? and go back to default http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/how-to-get-systray-whitelist-back-in.html
[18:41] <arleas> blazemore: I'm running a 6870 with 64 bit Ubuntu (13.04)
[18:41] <blazemore> arleas: That's identical to my setup
[18:42] <Ghostring> how can i revert the changes i did here? http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/how-to-get-systray-whitelist-back-in.html
[18:42] <arleas> blazemore: Do you have the open source or the AMD driver? If you have the open source, how did you lower the fan speed?
[18:43] <ru0h> Hello sirs.
[18:44] <arleas> blazemore: The driver installed successfully - I could run a dual monitor setup and the fan speed was correct. But after three reboots, it now hangs on the login screen without any changes under CCC or similar - just running the fglrx driver stock.
[18:44] <ru0h> help
[18:44] <ru0h> woops
[18:44] <blazemore> arleas: Sounds like a red herring
[18:44] <blazemore> arleas: I run fglrx, and I've never found the fan noise to be a problem - although my 6870 probably has a larger (and therefore slower) fan
[18:47] <MonkWitDaFunk> Is the fglrx driver an open source driver for ati graphics that is not within ubuntu?
[18:48] <k1l_> !info fglrx
[18:48] <auronandace> MonkWitDaFunk: fglrx is the closed source driver
[18:49] <daftykins> MonkWitDaFunk: no it's a closed source proprietary binary
[18:55] <SDr__> huh, where is the tilde (~) defined?
[18:55] <SDr__> is it bash, or alias, or wth?
[18:55] <Jart> daftykins: same thing... http://paste.ubuntu.com/5956040/
[18:56] <arleas> blazemore: Sorry, my browser crashed
[18:56] <arleas> blazemore: Any ideas?
[18:56] <blazemore> arleas: If I were you, Id use the open source driver
[18:56] <blazemore> arleas: And look for ways to control your fan speed while using the open-source driver
[18:56] <arleas> blazemore: I can't stand the noise. Is there anyway of getting into the OS to remove the driver? It currently hangs on login.
[18:57] <blazemore> arleas: Yes. Can you boot to recovery mode OK?
[18:58] <explodes> I heard this story of about an astronaut that heard a constant and consistent clicking for weeks.
[18:58] <arleas> blazmore: I think so - there's four ubuntu options to select and two say recovery mode
[18:58] <explodes> He was about to go mad, until he decided that the clicking sounded like music.
[18:58] <Jart> daftykins: although this time, when i typed startx, i just got a blinking cursor
[18:58] <Jart> so that's at least something
[18:58] <explodes> He learned to enjoy his high-powered fan
[18:58] <dak0> Hello, how can I find where my Mozilla history is located in Ubuntu, I just want to see how much space it takes from my HDD ?
[18:59] <daftykins> Jart: ooh, so it sort of moved to the VT 7 and sat there by the sounds
[18:59] <daftykins> Jart: hrmm ok, i see it only errors once with the kms not enabled bit though - seems encouraging, i think the next task is to perhaps put something in xorg.conf to make kms work
[18:59] <holstein> dak0: should be in your user /home.. in .config/mozilla, or .mozilla ..something obvious like that.. control+h will unhide them
[19:00] <Jart> daftykins: any ideas what to put in?
[19:00] <dak0> holstein: .mozilla folder is 128mb that's low
[19:01] <dak0> i'm using the web on Ubuntu since 2012
[19:01] <d53220> can someone explain this to me? http://www.ubuntu.com/tablet  -- The question is does a tablet exist or not?
[19:01] <daftykins> Jart: i'm googling around but it almost seems like it's just a kernel thing that either works or doesn't - i wonder if the combination of that config and booting the older kernel will provide a different result. i'm afraid i'm obviously clutching at straws now though with not enough experience to back up my ideas :(
[19:01] <holstein> dak0: those will be per user
[19:01] <holstein> !tablet | dak0
[19:01] <dak0> holstein: I'm the only one using this PC
[19:01] <holstein> dak0: sorry.. d53220 ^^
[19:01] <dak0> holstein: np
[19:02] <holstein> dak0: not actual people users.. user accounts.. if you made a new user account for some reason
[19:02] <Jart> daftykins: alright, thanks a ton, man. hopefully i can get this figured out soon. it's been driving me insane. fuckin bumblebee just getting in there and mixing everything up
[19:02] <holstein> !language
[19:02] <Jart> my bad
[19:02] <dak0> holstein: What do you mean user account, don't need account to use Mozilla ?
[19:03] <arleas> blazemore: How do I remove the driver? Unity won't load and the borders are missing from the windows in recovery mode.
[19:03] <holstein> dak0: user accounts, friend.. on the machine.. if you have bob1, and bob2.. bob1 and bob2 both have mozilla config files
[19:03] <blazemore> arleas: Repeat: Can you boot to recovery mode OK?
[19:03] <dak0> holstein: as far as I know history is not shared between those accounts, but I get your point
[19:03] <dak0> holstein: thanks
[19:04] <arleas> blazemore: I think so - there's four ubuntu options to select and two say recovery mode.
[19:04] <daftykins> Jart: no worries - if you do make any progress, give me a shout with the answer yeah? :)
[19:04] <holstein> dak0: i 8Never* said it was shared.. i said, you have a config per user
[19:04] <blazemore> arleas: Select the recovery mode with the highest number at the end
[19:04] <arleas> blazemore: OK
[19:04] <arleas> blazemore: Last time I did this, Unity won't load and the borders are missing from the windows in recovery mode.
[19:04] <blazemore> We're not going to use the gui in recovery mode so that doesn't matter
[19:05] <blazemore> When it asks for your password, enter it. I think you have to maybe hit Ctrl-D first, but just do what it says. The entry in the menu you want it "drop to a root prompt with networking" or similar.
[19:07] <arleas> blazemore: OK
[19:08] <blazemore> arleas: Are you looking at a root shell prompt?
[19:09] <arleas> blazemore: I'm in Windows - just writing down what you're telling me to do!
[19:09] <blazemore> Oh OK
[19:09] <blazemore> Well the next step depends on how you installed the fglrx driver in the first place
[19:09] <blazemore> For example, did you use the Additional Drivers tool, or did you download and install it yourself from AMD's website?
[19:12] <arleas> blazemore: I followed a guide and installed it through terminal.
[19:12] <blazemore> sudo sh /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh
[19:12] <blazemore> sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
[19:12] <blazemore> In fact arleas http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Raring_Installation_Guide#Removing_Catalyst.2Ffglrx
[19:13] <blazemore> Just run the commands in that section
[19:13] <eaxxae> anyone know if there is anything like airparrot for *nix ?
[19:13] <arleas> blazemore: cheers!
[19:13] <arleas> blazemore: Now, if you know a way of making it quieter under the open source drivers...
[19:15] <blazemore> arleas: No, just install the fglrx driver properly from the Additional Drivers tool
[19:15] <blazemore> eaxxae: Take a look at this project which is a plugin for Totem, Ubuntu's default video player http://cgit.sukimashita.com/totem-plugin-airplay.git - XBMC also supports AirPlay
[19:15] <blazemore> !airplay | eaxxae
[19:15] <blazemore> No I didn't think so
[19:15] <arleas> blazemore: I did that last time... same problem. Also, I get an 'unsupported hardware' watermark in the corner of my screen. Dual monitors also doesn't work with that option.
[19:16] <blazemore> arleas: Stick with the open source drivers then, and fix your fan issue while using those
[19:16] <arleas> blazemore: I'm not sure there is a fix for the fan issue using the open source drivers. It's a vicious circle.
[19:16] <Sk1Special> how do i upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 via terminal?
[19:17] <blazemore> Sk1Special: do-release-upgrade
[19:18] <Sk1Special> blazemore, yeah i did all that, starting with apt-get update, and it just says 'already newest version' but when i check i stil have 12.10
[19:18] <Taptoula> Hi all
[19:18] <Taptoula> I have a problem with rtorrent since I restarted my server. It says : "rtorrent: Symbol `_ZN7torrent10log_groupsE' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking". What should I do ?
[19:19] <holstein> Taptoula: have you considered relinking?
[19:19] <Taptoula> Actuelly I don't know how to do that
[19:20] <blazemore> Sk1Special: Did you actually run "sudo do-release-upgrade" when you "did all that" ?
[19:20] <blazemore> Or were you following some sketchy guide?
[19:20] <vee_> hey guys, i somehow am no longer in the sudoers file, and, can no longer run the sudo command. there is no root user either...how can i fix this?
[19:21] <daftykins> vee_: probably a livecd boot and a chroot
[19:21] <daftykins> vee_: or a recovery console boot
[19:21] <vee_> how do i do a recovery console boot?
[19:22] <vee_> this is minimal install cd btw
[19:22] <Sk1Special> blazemore, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, sudo apt-get install update-manager-core, and sudo do-release-upgrade, all of which say no new release, and lsb_release -a returns 12.10
[19:22] <daftykins> vee_: hold shift at boot time and you'll get a boot menu of GRUB, it should offer you kernel versions and their respective recovery boot entries
[19:22] <BlackFate> hello! i removed grub packages by mistake, so i reinstalled grub-efi-amd64-signed again. Now i  get "ubuntu has been blocked by the current security policy". I can disable secure boot. But i really want to now how can i fix that
[19:23] <Taptoula> Can someone please help me with my rtorrent problem ? (rtorrent: Symbol `_ZN7torrent10log_groupsE' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking)
[19:23] <holstein> BlackFate: i thought diabling secure boot was the fix
[19:23] <mac_nibblet> Since when does ubuntu name it's network devices as nm?
[19:23] <holstein> Taptoula: have you tried re-linking?
[19:23] <Taptoula> holstein: I don't know how to do that
[19:23] <blazemore> !nm | mac_nibblet
[19:23] <BlackFate> holstein, well.. it should also work with secure boot enabled.
[19:23] <mac_nibblet> blazemore: :)
[19:24] <blazemore> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager mac_nibblet: since Network Manager
[19:24] <holstein> Taptoula: "i dont know how to do that" is a statement, friend.. what are you asking?
[19:24] <vee_> i tried editing the sudoer's file, but, it says its ready only file system
[19:24] <mac_nibblet> blazemore: network manger is not even installed on my ubuntu-server installation ?
[19:24] <blazemore> vee_: Are you in recovery mode?
[19:24] <Taptoula> holstein: You advised me to relink, I don't know how to relink
[19:24] <holstein> BlackFate: i dont have the hardware in front of me, but i hae always seen users disabling it
[19:24] <blazemore> mac_nibblet: Ask in #ubuntu-server then
[19:24] <mac_nibblet> oki
[19:24] <vee_> blazemore yes
[19:24] <holstein> Taptoula: the error message advised that you re-link. i just asked if you had tried the suggestion
[19:25] <holstein> Taptoula: what are you doing? hosting a link?
[19:25] <blazemore> vee_: mount -o remount,rw /
[19:25] <Taptoula> holstein: no, just trying to launch it, worked perfectly till now
[19:25] <vee_> blazemore: thanks!
[19:26] <blazemore> !efi | BlackFate is there anything useful here
[19:26] <blazemore> Is that relevant to secure boot?
[19:27] <holstein> Taptoula: what worked how? what are youlaunching? and why?
[19:28] <Taptoula> holstein: rtorrent worked perfectly till now, I restarted my server and now when I type "rtorrent" I get "rtorrent: Symbol `_ZN7torrent10log_groupsE' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking" and it fails
[19:28] <Taptoula> holstein: why ? because I need to run it
[19:28] <holstein> Taptoula: please dont repost your queries
[19:29] <Taptoula> holstein: I just answerd your question as fully as I could
[19:29] <holstein> Taptoula: are you downloading? hosting files via torrent? what operating system? what are you doing?
[19:30] <Taptoula> holstein: I'm just tryng to launch rtorrent, will probably download yes. I'm using it on ubuntu server, latest version fully updated
[19:31] <Taptoula> can't find any help on google
[19:31] <NewWorld> Taptoula:  did you try just reinstalling the program?
[19:32] <holstein> Taptoula: i have only personally used tranmission, which has a webGUI.. i would try relinking the file that is an issue. you can remove the file, since you seem to not care what it is
[19:32] <Taptoula> holstein : I'll try both your advices
[19:33] <BlackFate> blazemore, "Secure Boot" is a new UEFI feature that appeared in 2012, with Windows8 preinstalled computers. All current Ubuntu 64bit (not 32bit) versions now support this feature,"
[19:34] <sipior> cd
[19:36] <Taptoula> holstein: It failed : "_ZN7torrent10log_groupsE" can't be found anywhere on the system (but isn't it a symbol, not a file ?). Reinstalling rtorrent leade to the very same error
[19:36] <holstein> Taptoula: it? what failed? how?
[19:36] <holstein> Taptoula: how are you launching what? and why?
[19:37] <Taptoula> holstein: typing rtorrent on the CLi produced the error. That's the command used to launch rtorrent. I don't know why it failed.
[19:38] <NewWorld> Taptoula:  what the hell is "_ZN7torrent10log_groupsE"?
[19:38] <holstein> Taptoula: what are you trying to do? maybe you can use a different torrent for a client or a server, which ever you are tyring to do, which you ahve not indecicated
[19:38] <daftykins> Taptoula: backup your rtorrent .config folder in your /home and check it still does that?
[19:38] <holstein> indicated*
[19:39] <Taptoula> holstein : I think it's a C++ symbol used by the program
[19:39] <Taptoula> daftykins: Thanks, I'll try that
[19:40] <Longtom> Hi All, I've had an ubuntu forums account since 2006 but do not want to create an Ubuntu One account to login.  Does anyone know how I can get my forums account closed?
[19:40] <Taptoula> daftykins: produced the same error
[19:40] <NewWorld> Taptoula:  try it in gdb, type 'gdb rtorrent' , then at the prompt type 'run'
[19:40] <holstein> Taptoula: you think what is a C++ cymbol used by what?
[19:41] <holstein> Taptoula: if the application is not working for you, i would try another torrent application
[19:41] <Longtom> I dont see any contact details for admins
[19:41] <holstein> Longtom: the forums have been compromised.. there is not security reason to close anything
[19:42] <Longtom> I want to close the account because I cannot login without creating an Ubuntu One account which I do not want to do
[19:43] <Pici> Longtom: try #ubuntuforums
[19:43] <Longtom> thanks Pici
[19:43] <NewWorld> Taptoula:  and after you type run and rtorrent crashes, type 'bt' for backtrace
[19:44] <dwarder> is it safe to install LAMP as this: sudo apt-get install lamp-server^
[19:44] <dwarder> for production
[19:44] <daftykins> dwarder: sure - also consider sudo tasksel
[19:44] <dwarder> daftykins: thankx
[19:45] <Taptoula> holstein: I would but it worked perfectly for months
[19:45] <holstein> Taptoula: did you upgrade? what caused it to break? what were you doing on it? hosting or downloading?
[19:46] <Taptoula> Guys I resolved the problem. It was caused by (I think) a broken build in some ppa repository I was using (ppa:crass/libtorrent). I removed it and reinstalled. Now it's fine again.
[19:46] <Taptoula> Thanks for your help
[19:47] <Shloop> I'm having a problem. Windows wont recognize my ubuntu usb drive.
[19:47] <holstein> Taptoula: ppas are not officially supported here
[19:47] <NewWorld> Great)
[19:48] <NewWorld> Shloop:  what filesystem is the usb drive in?
[19:48] <Taptoula> holstein: I'll keep that in mind. Thanks
[19:48] <daftykins> Shloop: why do you want it to recognise it?
[19:48] <hays> is there any potential problem with avoiding dist-upgrades which require reboot until major version changes?
[19:49] <Shloop> newworld i've never heard of it, but it's called squashfs?
[19:49] <daftykins> hays: there are often kernel updates, those should always be done for security reasons
[19:50] <Shloop> daftykins because I use my laptop for ubuntu and my desktop with windows for music production and I need to transfer a file from this ubuntu drive on to the windows computer
[19:51] <daftykins> Shloop: oh right so it just happens to contain ubuntu for installation, but you're using it for file copy. under windows, run diskmgmt.msc and see if it's detected but not given a drive letter?
[19:52] <Shloop> daftykins yeah that's it. it's detected and says the drive is ready for use but I have no way of accessing it.
[19:53] <daftykins> Shloop: you just right click on it in disk management and add a drive letter
[19:53] <Shloop> accessing its contents*
[19:53] <Shloop> alright i'll try that daftykins
[19:53] <Sk1Special> trying to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 via terminal.. did sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, sudo apt-get install update-manager-core, and sudo do-release-upgrade, (in that order, and tried rerunning 3 times.)all of which say no new release, and lsb_release -a returns 12.10
[19:55] <daftykins> Sk1Special: why is graphical not an option?
[19:56] <Sk1Special> daftykins, *shrug* it is i guess. but id rather learn how to do it in the terminal, and learn why its not working :]
[19:56] <hays> daftykins: something changed on my setup where booting requires manual intervention
[19:56] <hays> so its annoying to reboot
[19:56] <holstein> id rather do a fresh install.. takes about 8 minutes
[19:57] <holstein> hays: there are some ways to install kernel updates and not reboot, but AFAIK, those are not in default ubuntu installations.. and im not sure how one would implement it
[19:58] <daftykins> Sk1Special: mm fair point. i'm not sure how do-release-upgrade runs but maybe it's getting the wrong answer from whoever it's contacting
[19:58] <Shloop> daftykins i right clicked the drive in the device manager but it doesn't give a "assign drive letter" option
[19:59] <Sk1Special> daftykins, hmm. do you know how would i go about checking/fixing that then ?
[19:59] <daftykins> Shloop: you have to do it on the partition
[19:59] <daftykins> Sk1Special: hunting now
[19:59] <daftykins> Sk1Special: there we go - try "sudo do-release-upgrade -d"
[20:00] <Shloop> daftykins how do you do that? excuse my noobishness
[20:00] <daftykins> Shloop: you see the partitions where it shows the size of the disk and has a blue strip along the top?
[20:00] <cmartin0> I need an nvidia driver newer than 173 but older than the current one. Are these drivers in the ubuntu repository?
[20:01] <daftykins> Shloop: right-click on the blue/white beneath
[20:01] <MoPac> Hello; I have a question about installing some software from source (and I think the question is generic).  I am getting an error during cmake that that it cannot find two package configuration (.cmake) files "provided by" some Qt5 software.
[20:01] <Shloop> daftykins ... I'm not sure what window you're talking about. Is this in the device manager on windows or in ubuntu?
[20:01] <daftykins> cmartin0: you can search for them with 'apt-cache search <package name...>'
[20:01] <MoPac> I'm wondering if this means that they are missing in the code for the software I'm installing, or if they're missing in my Qt libraries
[20:01] <daftykins> Shloop: diskmgmt.msc which i said to run. in windows.
[20:02] <Sk1Special> daftykins, no go.. but i actually read through the stuff..when i do sudo apt-get update.. it shows files from ppa.launchpad.net, dl.google.com , security.ubuntu.com. us.archive.ubuntu.com and extras.ubuntu.com as *failed to download they have been ignored or old ones used instead* will this kill the upgrade?
[20:02] <daftykins> Sk1Special: sounds like it's having issues contacting the mirrors yeah - are you behind a web proxy?
[20:03] <daftykins> Sk1Special: can you do a "sudo apt-get update > pastebinit" ?
[20:03] <Sk1Special> daftykins, no im not. ah yeah one second.
[20:04] <cmartin0> daftykins, I don't see any old ones. So I need to get the binary driver from nvidia then?
[20:04] <daftykins> cmartin0: assuming you searched the APT cache for appropriate package names and it showed the versions you don't want to use with no others - yeah i'd go that route
[20:05] <Shloop> daftykins it only gives me delete volume and help as options
[20:05] <daftykins> Shloop: can you up a screenshot?
[20:05] <Shloop> yeah give me a couple minutes daftkins
[20:06] <daftykins> Shloop: actually - the USB, does it contain an *installed* Ubuntu or a made up LiveUSB version?
[20:09] <Sk1Special> daftykins, .... i know what the problem is. nvm. on a compltely unrelated side note..how do I install the proper drivers for my wireless card in ubuntu? :]
[20:09] <hht> hello, i have installed this iso http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/saucy-desktop-i386.iso file using unetbootin and universal usb installer and i can't boot it, what is wrong is it for x64 ?
[20:09] <daftykins> Sk1Special: no net conn? :)
[20:09] <Sk1Special> daftykins, yeah lol. how do i install the drivers for this usb wireless card? just run sudo apt-get update or?
[20:10] <kriskropd> Is anyone here familiar with feh? I want to set a background in dwm like this 'feh --no-xinerama --bg-center image.jpg' and it works, but now I see I would like to have the image off center by a few hundred pixels for a better background, can I do this using just feh, or do I have to custom edit the image?
[20:10] <daftykins> Sk1Special: can you just upgrade over wired first, then hope 13.04 has lovely working wireless? :D
[20:10] <daftykins> Sk1Special: i think the above would be a less painful approach ^
[20:11] <daftykins> Sk1Special: either way i'm a cable lover i'm afraid :( identify the adapter with lspci / lsusb then ask in here again - i'm no good on wifi woes
[20:12] <hht> anyone can help?
[20:12] <daftykins> hht: no i386 is for 32-bit - what happens?
[20:13] <hht> daftykins i can't boot it
[20:13] <hht> tested on my netbook atom n270 and under app xboot
[20:13] <hht> can't boot
[20:13] <Sk1Special> daftykins, ah mmk. thanks for the help though
[20:14] <daftykins> hht: i dunno, try asking in #ubuntu+1 as saucy isn't final yet
[20:14] <hht> i have also used the newest version of universal usb installer
[20:14] <daftykins> new release support is in there
[20:14] <hht> daftykins what is the newest version of ubuntuu final ?
[20:14] <daftykins> hht: 13.04 but its' support ends in January
[20:15] <Shloop> daftykins http://imgur.com/f3k92um,5JDYJ38#0 http://imgur.com/f3k92um,5JDYJ38#1
[20:15] <Sk1Special> its a netgear WNA3100(v1) Wireless-N 300 [Broadcom BCM43231] and I prefer cable too..just no reach here.
[20:16] <daftykins> Shloop: that's a 1TB drive! :) is it the second entry maybe? scroll down in the window...
[20:16] <daftykins> Shloop: (below the CD drives)
[20:18] <Shloop> daftykins yeah i know! And it's already almost 3/4ths the way full lol. It's actually listed as disk one in the second row
[20:18] <daftykins> Shloop: i thought you were trying to get files off a flash drive, not an HDD
[20:19] <Shloop> so i'm assuming there's a different way of doing it then daftykins?
[20:19] <home> Hi I have an question and, to be honest, I am not entirely sure if this is the right channel. --I have installed a couple of games from the repos and they all have a tendency to move the cursor/character to the top left of the screen as if i was pressing the <left> and <up> keys
[20:19] <daftykins> Shloop: right now - you have files on a flash drive and it's plugged in, correct?
[20:19] <daftykins> Shloop: 8GB flash drive judging by that window?
[20:19] <Shloop> daftykins: yep
[20:19] <home> the games affected so far are Tumiki Fighters, Alex the Alligator, Frogatto and Titanion
[20:19] <Shloop> wait 8 gbs?
[20:20] <daftykins> Shloop: if you right click that second entry that says 7.91GB under capacity, does it give the option to change drive letter...?
[20:20] <home> other games I have installed are not affected and it doesn't seem to happen in any other app. any ideas?
[20:20] <Shloop> oh okay i see what you're talking about
[20:20] <Shloop> uhh let me see
[20:20] <Shloop> nope. same thing. delete volume or help are my only options
[20:20] <Shloop> daftykins:
[20:22] <daftykins> Shloop: so is it a LiveUSB? or an installed ubuntu *on* the flash drive?
[20:22] <Shloop> daftykins it's actually installed on the HDD
[20:23] <daftykins> Shloop: what's on the flash drive then? :D
[20:24] <daftykins> Shloop: i'm sorry i think i've confused myself about the task at hand
[20:24] <sixyearsofdreams> loop explode :D
[20:25] <Shloop> daftykins I downloaded my copy of Komplete 8 by native instruments (it's a HUGE virtual instrument) and I need to transfer the folder to my windows drive
[20:26] <Shloop> not even that really, since I don't have enough space. I just need to access the 1tb drive's contents daftykins
[20:27] <daftykins> Shloop: so it's sat in the ubuntu install?
[20:27] <Shloop> daftykins yeah it's in my downloads folder on the ubuntu drive
[20:28] <daftykins> Shloop: ok, if that's the same computer you could use ubuntu to mount the NTFS windows partition (or any, preferably a storage only drive) and copy it over
[20:30] <Shloop> is that the only option daftykins? I made a mistake saying that I wanted to copy the files over. I don't have enough space on my drive to do that. I just want to access the contents of the 1tb HDD
[20:31] <daftykins> Shloop: windows can't really read Linux file systems :(
[20:31] <Shloop> daftykins noooooooo
[20:32] <daftykins> Shloop: :'(
[20:32] <reisio> sure it can
[20:32] <Shloop> can I partition part of the drive that has free space on it and use that section? daftykins
[20:32] <daftykins> :O
[20:32] <reisio> what FS?
[20:32] <daftykins> Shloop: reisio best take over, sounds like i'm a dirty liar - also i must get food :) gl!
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> daftykins, pick me up some tamales
[20:33] <reisio> daftykins: you should know more awful Windows trivia! :p
[20:33] <Shloop> I'm sorry reisio I'm not exactly sure what filesystem means. Are you asking if it's ubuntu? or fat32/ntfs
[20:33] <reisio> good for the self loathing
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[20:33] <daftykins> reisio: i should? i was under the impression ext drivers for Windows were far behind Linux' NTFS one
[20:33] <reisio> Shloop: ext#?
[20:33] <Shloop> yeah tell me about it reisio
[20:34] <Shloop> I only use windows because it runs really good music production software
[20:34] <reisio> daftykins: about the same IME
[20:34] <Shloop> and wine doesn't work with the software
[20:34] <reisio> sure sure
[20:34] <Shloop> hmm let me check real quick reisio
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> Shloop, You might visit #opensourcemusicians
[20:34] <reisio> what FS?
[20:35] <Shloop> I don't know off the top of my head
[20:36] <Shloop> I'm checking
[20:36] <reisio> so check :p
[20:36] <linrunix> Hi, anybody with 3monitors working?
[20:36] <linrunix> I'm having a tough time setting it up
[20:36] <Shloop> reisio ext4
[20:37] <Shloop> version 1.0
[20:38] <reisio> Shloop: then you can probably use extread for a one-of, or ext2fsd for long term
[20:38] <reisio> one-off
[20:40] <reisio> linrunix: gpu?
[20:40] <Shloop> i'll give it a shot. thanks reisio
[20:41] <Sk1Special> do does anyone know how to install the drivers for netgear WNA3100(v1) Wireless-N 300 [Broadcom BCM43231] in 12.10?
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> Sk1Special, You've seen the wiki"
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> ?
[20:42] <Sk1Special> wilee-nilee, nope?
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom
[20:42] <linrunix> reisio: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[20:42] <linrunix> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV620 LE [Radeon HD 3450]
[20:42] <Sk1Special> wilee-nilee, ah mmk. t/y t/y
[20:43] <linrunix> reisio: one is the internal card (intel) and an external card (ATI)
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> Sk1Special, no prob as k the channel if you have any problems I know nothing on broadcom. ;)
[20:43] <reisio> linrunix: which drivers?
[20:43] <linrunix> Both cards work perfectly when the other monitors are umplugged. But together is a no go.
[20:44] <Sk1Special> wilee-nilee, lol alright. I think youre the one that helped me with my video drives before tho right? i may be asking for help with that in a minute
[20:44] <linrunix> reisio: default drivers intalled by ubuntu 13.04
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> Sk1Special, I doubt it was me other than a hey, look here link, I have not had to mess with any drivers ever in about 6 years of use.
[20:45] <linrunix> reisio: radeon for the ATI
[20:45] <reisio> linrunix: the 'restricted' (binary) ati drivers come with a GUI configurator
[20:45] <reisio> otherwise you probably have some xrandr ahead
[20:45] <linrunix> reisio: i915 for the intel
[20:46] <Sk1Special> wilee-nilee, ah no i was having alot of issues with nvidia/dual monitors / the desktop cube like 6 months ago.. my second monitor display is just like an inch to big now for somereason..but i gotta figure this out first
[20:49] <italia> hola hablan espaniol
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> !es | italia
[20:50] <italia> ty
[20:50] <italia> thanks
[20:50] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[20:50] <vmussa> Hello, I just installed the haskell platform package from ubuntu repositories but it asked me to uninstall some packages, and I think because of that ubuntu can't boot with graphical user interface anymore
[20:51] <vmussa> anyone knows what packages I need to reinstall or something?
[20:51] <wilee-nilee> !info haskell
[20:51] <reisio> vmussa: ordinary Ubuntu?
[20:51] <histo> vmussa: well which packages did it uninstall?
[20:51] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, What release you running?
[20:51] <vmussa> reisio, it is precise
[20:51] <vmussa> I don't remember exactly what packages but I do remember a "x" in its name
[20:52] <reisio> vmussa: could try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[20:52] <histo> vmussa: take a look at your /var/log/apt/history.log
[20:52] <vmussa> I think it is some graphical lib perhaps?
[20:52] <reisio> perhaps
[20:52] <vmussa> ok histo
[20:52] <vmussa> reisio, ubuntu-desktop is the graphical packages?
[20:53] <vmussa> histo, apparently this "history.log" only saves what I did since I booted?
[20:54] <vmussa> because I installed haskell platform yesterday, and only today I could get the boot problem
[20:54] <histo> vmussa: there are older versions gzipped in the /var/log/apt/  directory you can use zless to view those
[20:54] <vmussa> ok
[20:55] <khan> hi
[20:55] <reisio> hi
[20:55] <khan> sallam
[20:56] <hadifarnoud> Can someone help me with squid3? this is what I get when I do squid3 -z
[20:56] <Vivekananda> hey everyone. I was trying this to make my ip static -- http://superuser.com/questions/357120/how-do-i-setup-a-virtualbox-server-with-a-static-ip .  But when I restarted my virtual box , eth0 completely disappeared :(.
[20:56] <Vivekananda> what did I do wrong ?
[20:56] <hadifarnoud> https://gist.github.com/hadifarnoud/8b6d7edfdf91505883ee
[20:57] <histo> Vivekananda: perhaps a typo in your /etc/network/interfaces
[20:57] <linrunix> reisio: reading only they say that the restricted drivers breaks my card :/
[20:57] <linrunix> Looks like my card is old
[20:57] <histo> Vivekananda: can you pastebinit so we can take a look
[20:58] <linrunix> xrandr?
[20:58] <histo> Vivekananda: also somewhere above those settings make sure you have auto eth0 line that way the interface is brought up on boot with those settings
[21:00] <hadifarnoud> which one was rewrite the output to a file? > or >>? I know one of them append and other one just rewite it all
[21:00] <GabeTheBabe> hello fellow fleshlings
[21:00] <reisio> hello, mortal
[21:00] <zykotick9> hadifarnoud: > overwrites, >> appends
[21:00] <hadifarnoud> cheers zykotick9
[21:00] <iceroot_> hadifarnoud: >> append, > overwrite
[21:01] <GabeTheBabe> so, I'm trying to backup someones files from windows using a live environment of ububuntu via USB flash drive and I'm not quite sure what to get/how to find it all.
[21:01] <GabeTheBabe> under the temp folder, it looks empty.
[21:02] <reisio> GabeTheBabe: /sbin/blkid
[21:03] <histo> GabeTheBabe: how to find what?
[21:04] <Number6> Hey guys. I'm running a server on 13.04 x86. From time to time, the server hard locks and needs to be rebooted. The only thing of note in the kern.log is ^@^@^@^@^@^ (repeated many many times)
[21:04] <Nico___> Hey all
[21:04] <histo> Number6: memtest
[21:04] <GabeTheBabe> histo, what I need to back up of his windows installation. His OS is borked and I need to fix it lol
[21:05] <histo> GabeTheBabe: which version of windows?
[21:05] <Nico___> I want to install Ubuntu via Wubi, is this a valid way to go? Or do I just need to format my machine?
[21:05] <numberto> Hi guys, I am on ubuntu 13.04 and have some random presses, buttons which I don't press. Some programs start randomly.
[21:05] <Number6> histo: Already ran overnight, nothing noted
[21:05] <usr13> Number6: As histo suggests 1) memtest 2) clean / regrease
[21:05] <reisio> Nico___: it's suboptimal
[21:05] <histo> Nico___: no dualboot
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> GabeTheBabe, open it from the left panel in ubunt's home and recovery what is needed.
[21:05] <histo> Number6: power supply?
[21:05] <Number6> usr13: The CPU?
[21:05] <usr13> Number6: Yes
[21:06] <usr13> Number6: (Could be heat related.)
[21:06] <Number6> usr13: Great. I'll give that a try tomorrow.
[21:06] <kaelter> numberto: can you check to make sure nothing is inserted in a usb slot that isn't supposed to be? I've had people prank me like that before.
[21:06] <Number6> I've a feeling it's h/w related - the server is ~8 years old at this stage
[21:06] <histo> GabeTheBabe: if it's >XP then mount the windows driver and copy out his Users\$USER directory
[21:06] <histo> s/driver/drive/
[21:06] <numberto> kaelter: No I don't have
[21:06] <histo> Number6: if you have a spare power supply I would go there.
[21:07] <daftykins> Sk1Special: wired isn't an option then? :)
[21:07] <vmussa> histo, I found the packages it uninstalled: almost everything is related to "x11-apps", "xserver", "xorg-video" and things like that
[21:07] <vmussa> like those*
[21:07] <histo> vmussa: Yeah you need those
[21:07] <Nico___> histo: So I can keep my old files and stuff, just have the option to boot into Windows or Ubuntu?
[21:07] <Vivekananda> histo: yep I did not input the eth0 line earlier . now I did . So what I am trying to follow is this http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/
[21:07] <reisio> vmussa: that'd do it
[21:07] <vmussa> I see
[21:07] <Vivekananda> I now got the eth0 but I dont have net
[21:08] <Vivekananda> histo: should I post my ifconfig and also my /etc/network/interfaces ?
[21:08] <vmussa> histo, reisio, so I should copy whatever it uninstalled and install again?
[21:08] <usr13> Vivekananda: Does the router have DHCP server running?
[21:09] <Vivekananda> usr13: not very familiar with dhcp setting but yes it is checked
[21:09] <usr13> Vivekananda: Is it connected to the LAN but no internet?
[21:09] <reisio> vmussa: try ubuntu-desktop first
[21:09] <histo> Vivekananda: if you didn't have the auto eth0    line in there that's why eth0 didn't start on boot. Once it's there restart and all will be good
[21:09] <usr13> Vivekananda: Can you ping the gateway router?
[21:10] <Vivekananda> usr13: my host is win 7 has the router and has net. my ubuntu is a guest on vbox . I changed the network mode to abridged and since I am hosting a LOCal app I am trying to get it to show a static internal ip
[21:10] <histo> Vivekananda: If you have no net and can ping 8.8.8.8   you need to add nameservers to your interfaces
[21:10] <Vivekananda> histo: do I ping from the vm or from win7 to the internet ?
[21:10] <histo> Vivekananda: ping 8.8.8.8   on the vm
[21:11] <Vivekananda> yes it pings
[21:11] <Vivekananda> receiving
[21:11] <usr13> Vivekananda: Add line to /etc/resolv.conf   "nameserver 8.8.8.8"
[21:11] <vmussa> reisio, ok
[21:11] <usr13> Vivekananda: and/or take out the bogus one.
[21:12] <histo> Vivekananda: then in the /etc/network/interfaces file add dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 whatever else
[21:12] <histo> usr13: you can't use resolv.conf because it will be overwritten by the resolvconf package
[21:12] <usr13> Vivekananda: Or, yes, do as histo said.
[21:12] <usr13> histo: Yes, quite possibly, (but only if he is set to dhcp).
[21:13] <histo> Vivekananda: just make sure it's in the iface section
[21:13] <Vivekananda> following histo then . Also the resolv.conf tells me do not edit this file-- changes will be overwritten :(
[21:13] <Traccy> histo : http://pastie.org/8212836
[21:13] <histo> usr13: no it will still be overwritten even without dhcp on boot
[21:13] <gregor3005> hi, i try to install ubuntu 13.04 on an pentium 4 processor workstation and i get an internal error when i boot into the live cd, executable /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test
[21:13] <vmussa> reisio, apparently it is installing everything haskell removed
[21:13] <usr13> Vivekananda: Yea, on the next boot, or if you query a dhcp server that is giving false info.
[21:13] <gregor3005> also unity didn't boot up, only two desktop icons "examples" and "install ubuntu 13.04"
[21:14] <histo> Traccy: What is that?
[21:14] <hadifarnoud> is 10.0.0.1/8 like 255.255.255.0 ?
[21:14] <Traccy> histo :error
[21:14] <reisio> vmussa: sounds right
[21:14] <Traccy> every time i run programmes
[21:14] <histo> Traccy: from?   You just sent me a random pastebin perhaps giving more details may help.
[21:14] <Vivekananda> histo: you said to add dns-nameserver S ? singular or plural ?
[21:14] <usr13> histo: Yes, but if the dhcp server is giving correct info, (valid nameserver), it won't matter.
[21:15] <Vivekananda> also let me paste what I have after adding
[21:15] <histo> Traccy: 1. Why are you logged in as root? 2. What version of ubuntu are you running
[21:15] <Traccy> yes iam root
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> gregor3005, Possible number of issues in general ram amount, graphic drivers are two that come to mind, bad iso or burn.
[21:15] <histo> Vivekananda: plural
[21:16] <Traccy> histo : VERSION="12.04.2 LTS, Precise Pangolin"
[21:16] <vmussa> reisio, the problem is that I updated to grub 1.99, and I don't know how to boot ubuntu the right way from that "bash-like command interface", do you know where should I get help?
[21:16] <histo> !locale | Traccy
[21:17] <usr13> histo: dns-nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ?  (Maybe it will take both?)
[21:17] <Vivekananda> histo: pastebin.com/rYpprHY6
[21:17] <reisio> vmussa: how is that a problem?
[21:17] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: the iso is ok, boots perfect with an vm, ram = 1,5gb, graphic is onboard -> i try ubuntu 12
[21:17] <histo> usr13: no dns-nameservers 123.123.123.123 201.201.201.201  you can specify multiples
[21:17] <wilee-nilee> gregor3005, Same computer?
[21:18] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: no on my workstation, the old workstation is for a friend who need its only for firefox and thunderbird
[21:18] <histo> Vivekananda: looks good but just FYI that is google's free dns server you can add the other one if you want to that line or use your ISPs nameservers
[21:18] <daftykins> gregor3005: sounds like the systems graphics card isn't supported
[21:18] <freddianlopez> hello
[21:18] <Vivekananda> should I restart my host too ? or just the vm ?
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> gregor3005, Cool, there is always xubuntu and lubuntu.
[21:18] <reisio> hi
[21:18] <usr13> histo: Ok. Well, it is something I don't use.  I either set perminate leases in the router or set to static and just edit /etc/resolv.conf
[21:18] <histo> Vivekananda: you can just restart networking
[21:19] <gregor3005> daftykins: i have an ati 9250 (128mb ddr) which i can test with this workstation
[21:19] <histo> Vivekananda: sudo service networking restart   on the VM
[21:19] <dashpot> I'm so horny
[21:19] <Vivekananda> which other line histo ?
[21:19] <histo> !ot | dashpot
[21:19] <vmussa> reisio, I don't know how to use this bash-like interface. I think it installed this way because it missed theese graphical packages
[21:19] <freddianlopez> fucking
[21:20] <reisio> vmussa: you've got a prompt?
[21:20] <usr13> histo: You are correct http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_modern_network_configuration_for_desktop Vivekananda
[21:20] <freddianlopez> fucking
[21:20] <histo> Vivekananda: well if you want to use google's nameservers it would read dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4  to have both primary and secondary nameservers there.
[21:20] <dashpot> SUCK A DICK HISTO YOU FUCKING FAGGOT!!!! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!
[21:20] <freddianlopez> h
[21:20] <histo> !language | dashpot
[21:20] <daftykins> gregor3005: i think that'll be too old to be supported too
[21:20] <daftykins> gregor3005: if you just want a simple system fire up xubuntu instead of plain ubuntu
[21:21] <Guest58029> does the NSA have built in access to Linux/Ubuntu just like with Windows? http://therebel.org/stone/655776-full-nsa-access-built-into-every-windows-os-since-1997
[21:21] <histo> !ops | dashpot
[21:21] <Ben64> Guest58029: no, and offtopic
[21:21] <freddianlopez> damn
[21:21] <freddianlopez> damn damn
[21:21] <gregor3005> daftykins: thx i download xubuntu while i test the ati card
[21:21] <Traccy> histo : http://pastie.org/8212925
[21:21] <gregor3005> daftykins: whats the main difference between xubuntu and ubuntu?
[21:22] <Traccy> histo : nothing change http://pastie.org/8212925
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> Guest58029, Back to trool again eh.
[21:22] <daftykins> gregor3005: ubuntu uses unity, which requires 3D, xubuntu uses xfce which is lightweight and 3D
[21:22] <usr13> gregor3005: xfce vs unity
[21:22] <histo> Traccy: yeah you need to set your locale. What is uncommented in your /etc/locale.gen ?
[21:22] <daftykins> *2D on the last one
[21:22] <gregor3005> daftykins, usr13: thx
[21:23] <usr13> gregor3005: distrowatch.com
[21:23] <vmussa> reisio, I don't know exactly what a prompt is, but I'm in a command line interface for GRUB 1.99
[21:23] <histo> Traccy: modify your /etc/default/locale
[21:23] <gregor3005> usr13: thx
[21:23] <histo> Traccy: following those directions should help
[21:23] <reisio> vmussa: ok
[21:24] <histo> vmussa: you removed X
[21:24] <Vivekananda> histo: do I key in dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4    like that or do I write something else
[21:24] <reisio> vmussa: you get that every reboot? Since reinstalling ubuntu-desktop?
[21:24] <histo> Vivekananda: yeap looks good
[21:24] <vmussa> reisio, histo, yes, even now that I reinstalled ubuntu-desktop
[21:24] <vmussa> maybe I should reinstall GRUB2?
[21:25] <Guest58029> wilee-nilee, linux/ubuntu is good for that increased added security and privacy.... the worst set up would probably be with a Windows OS and an Intel CPU
[21:25] <Vivekananda> ok let me try
[21:26] <reisio> vmussa: is it a '>' prompt?
[21:26] <Vivekananda> had two other things
[21:26] <vmussa> reisio, yes "grub> "
[21:26] <gregor3005> daftykins, usr13: good news, with the ati card unity starts up
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, This is a partitioned install not a wubi install from windows right?
[21:26] <reisio> vmussa: how did you reinstall ubuntu-desktop from there?
[21:26] <Prometheian> Anyone here do any bitcoin mining with CGMiner?
[21:27] <gregor3005> daftykins, usr13: i test a installation and replace unity with xfce after the installation finished
[21:27] <daftykins> gregor3005: oh wow - i guess that's the radeon driver running with that ancient card
[21:27] <gregor3005> daftykins: hm, it is very slow
[21:27] <Guest58029> wilee-nilee, http://www.maxkeiser.com/2013/06/intels-chips-allow-for-remote-access-prism-has-access-to-anything-with-an-intel-chip-and-other-stuff/
[21:27] <Prometheian> On Ubuntu.
[21:28] <wilee-nilee> !anyone | Prometheian
[21:28] <Vivekananda> histo: if I do sudo service network-manager stop I still get net. why is that ?
[21:28] <Guest58029> !details
[21:28] <daftykins> gregor3005: yeah too heavy for old hardware, xfce will help
[21:28] <Ben64> !ot | Guest58029
[21:28] <Lajjla> So I have some scripts which compute some output, for some reason if I run these through putty on another machine I get the output faster. Is iths normal?
[21:29] <histo> Vivekananda: because you configured the /etc/network/interfaces manually. If you are using network-manager just configure the interface in there for static
[21:29] <Lajjla> Like if I putty via another machine, doe sit then run the scripts on the other computer's CPU or what?
[21:29] <iceroot_> Lajjla: yes
[21:29] <gregor3005> daftykins: i'm excited how it runs
[21:29] <Prometheian> I'm getting errors trying to start CGMiner. When I use -u and -p for my user and password, it says "Use only user + pass or userpass, but not both." even if I just use -u
[21:29] <histo> Lajjla: the processing is done on the other machine just as if you were running the script locally
[21:30] <Lajjla> iceroot_, seriously? So even if I don't have python installd on the other machine?
[21:30] <Lajjla> It loads python into memory via the internet on the other machine and interprets the script there?
[21:30] <iceroot_> Lajjla: when python is not installed on the target you cant execute python there
[21:30] <iceroot_> Lajjla: ssh is just giving you remote access to the other machine
[21:30] <Traccy> histo : sorry for dissconect what was you say
[21:30] <Lajjla> I feel we are talking past each other, I'm using SSH
[21:30] <Vivekananda> histo: got it . so I should now disable networ-manager ( will miss the connection strength symbol though bu it is no biggie). Also now if I do sudo service networking restart then it would same as the init.d networking stop and start right ?
[21:30] <iceroot_> !ssh | Lajjla
[21:31] <Lajjla> iceroot_, so is or isn't it executed on the machine which runs putty with SSH?
[21:32] <vmussa> reisio, I managed to boot ubuntu from this prompt with help from some website
[21:32] <vmussa> reisio, but it was like a recovery mode terminal only boot
[21:32] <reisio> vmussa: that doesn't answer my question
[21:32] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, this is a partitioned installed
[21:32] <vmussa> reisio, I'm trying to remember exactly but it was something like:
[21:33] <vmussa> grub> linux   (hd0,1)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-9-generic root=/dev/sda1;
[21:33] <vmussa> grub> initrd  (hd0,1)/boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-9-generic;
[21:33] <vmussa> grub> boot
[21:33] <Ben64> vmussa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:33] <Vivekananda> Lajjla: from what little i know putty will allow you to execute code to the other computer ( not the one you are sitting in front) as if you were physically there
[21:34] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, Are you in your desktop?
[21:34] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, I'm running Xchat on windows on my desktop and trying to boot ubuntu again on my laptop
[21:35] <Ben64> vmussa: use the boot repair i linked you to
[21:35] <Vivekananda> histo: ?
[21:35] <Lajjla> Vivekananda, so even though the other computer has no python implementation installs, it over the network loads the python interpreter into memory and executes the script on the putty machine which is 64 bit to the 32 bit host machine and both having different operating systems?
[21:35] <Lajjla> Impressive stuff, technology has no limit
[21:35] <vmussa> Ben64, I think I will try to reinstall grub first
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, Sounded like you manually booted to the desktop is this right or still no X.
[21:35] <Vivekananda> Lajjla: I am not sure if the script will execute on the remote if it does not have python
[21:36] <Vivekananda> have you tried calling the interpreter on the remote and seeing if it is there ?
[21:36] <Lajjla> Vivekananda, what if they have different versions which have different behaviours?
[21:36] <Ben64> Lajjla: you're making it too complicated. the client doesn't matter at all. the server is the one doing all the processing
[21:36] <Vivekananda> perhaps a simple python --version > text will tell you
[21:36] <Vivekananda> Lajjla: irrespective of the versions , the execution will depend on the language bein present but yes
[21:36] <Vivekananda> the speed might differ. But is this question ubuntu related ?
[21:37] <Vivekananda> coz if not then .....
[21:37] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, I don't understand what you're saying :(
[21:37] <kriskropd> Is anyone here familiar with feh? I want to set a background in dwm like this 'feh --no-xinerama --bg-center image.jpg' and it works, but now I see I would like to have the image off center by a few hundred pixels for a better background. Can I do this using just feh, or do I have to custom edit the image?
[21:38] <cerv0> hello evreybody since a while i've been looking for an offline translator "englesh to french" but i can't find it , someone can help me with that?
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, Have you gotten to the desktop as of late the commands to boot grub> you posted are a manual boot.
[21:38] <histo> Vivekananda: yes
[21:38] <Lajjla> Vivekananda, quite fascinating, I always just assumed SSH just backstaged a terminal on the host machine and then relayed the input
[21:39] <Vivekananda> lol then you need to know ssh a little more. Doesnot tunnel ring a bell ( english wise ) . why would you tunnel through your own home ( very naively speaking)
[21:39] <histo> Vivekananda: Yes restart is the same as stop then start and yes you no longer need network-manager if you are using a hard configured interfaces file
[21:40] <Vivekananda> histo: great
[21:40] <Vivekananda> histo: had an offtopic python question actually. could I ask you somewhere ? or laters ?
[21:40] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, since I removed the X packages, I couldn't boot ubuntu. So I tried to update GRUB through the ubuntu recory boot menu. When I restarted the computer, GRUB had no graphic interface anymore, and now I have to manually boot ubuntu
[21:41] <cerv0> hello evreybody since a while i've been looking for an offline translator "englesh to french" but i can't find it , someone can help me with that?
[21:41] <histo> Lajjla: When you execute commands via ssh they are run on the remote system that you are connecting to
[21:41] <histo> Vivekananda: pm and I'll try and answer
[21:41] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, I did it once, and managed to reinstall ubuntu-desktop. Now I'm trying to remember how to get to ubuntu again
[21:41] <Lajjla> histo, and if the remote system does not have the interpreter?
[21:41] <histo> Lajjla: the only thing displayed locally is the output all processing work horse stuff is done on the remote machine
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, And the manual boot gets you to the desktop, you can do all the grub things you need from the dektop.
[21:41] <histo> Lajjla: then the script won't run
[21:42] <Lajjla> histo, ehh wait, remote system is the host right?
[21:42] <histo> Lajjla: yes
[21:42] <Lajjla> Yeah, had that mixed up
[21:42] <Lajjla> Okay,t that's what I assumed
[21:42] <Lajjla> histo, so, I am then confused, why does the script run noticibly faster if I execute it with putty from another machine
[21:42] <histo> Lajjla: like if I use ssh on computer A to connect to computer B. Computer B is doing all the processing work. Computer A is just displaying output
[21:43] <Lajjla> I'm talking about a script which takes about 15 seconds on one machine to return the value and does it in 5 with putty.
[21:43] <Lajjla> histo, yeah that is what I assumed
[21:43] <Ben64> Lajjla: either you're incorrect in timing, or something else is slowing it down
[21:43] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, But I can't remember how to get to the desktop
[21:43] <OerHeks> kriskropd, there is not such an option, stretch and limit are >> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/man1/feh.1.html
[21:43] <Traccy> histo : perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> vmussa,use the bootrepair as suggested, which genrates a script url if you are still having problems to post or use super grub to boot ubuntu again.  http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/
[21:43] <histo> Lajjla: Differences in the hardware/software. Like windows vs. linux
[21:43] <Lajjla> Ben, maybe Konsole is just a slow terminal hmm
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, Bootrepair fixes grub generally
[21:43] <kriskropd> Lajjla: run the script like this 'time script.sh' it will produce stopwatch details fro your scritp
[21:43] <Ben64> Lajjla: try it in xterm
[21:43] <kriskropd> script*
[21:43] <Traccy> histo : i do all steps in this topic and still get error http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1720356
[21:44] <histo> Traccy: I don't know.  Perhaps you need to start over and ask your question in here with details.
[21:44] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, ok, but for that I need to boot from USB or CD, right?
[21:44] <histo> !details | Traccy
[21:44] <histo> Traccy: and maybe someone else can help you.
[21:44] <kriskropd> Lajjla: and like others are saying, you might be using a slow terminal or an environment with a lot of overhead - try with xterm or rxvt
[21:45] <kriskropd> OerHeks: I read the manual several times and couldn't find it, so I thought I would ask around, thanks for double checking :)
[21:45] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, You have multiple options, a manual as you did, the easiest is supergrub from a disc or usb to get to the desktop and repair grub or load ot to the mbr from the terminal.
[21:46] <Lajjla> Oh I'm an idiot, I know what causes it, the script retrives data from the internet, whenever I did it on the host itself I was also using the internet in the mean while. ==
[21:46] <sgex> what IRC client do you guys recommend using on ubuntu?
[21:46] <OerHeks> kriskropd, there is a Pan option, see "buttons" section, not sure if that can do what you want.
[21:46] <Lajjla> Depends on what you want.
[21:46] <kriskropd> sgex: pidgin if you must have gui, irssi otherwise
[21:46] <histo> sgex: weechat
[21:46] <mitch__> sgex, i'm currently using XChat and i really like it so far
[21:46] <Lajjla> People who recommend anything without asking you what you want tend to recommend the wrong thing for your personal needs
[21:47] <zykotick9> sgex: xchat is popular gui client, irssi/weechat for console is popular
[21:47] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, I think will try supergrub then
[21:47] <k1l_> sgex: xchat, irssi,... the list is long. better test what suits you best
[21:47] <sgex> I was using xchat-gnome but it keeps crashing on 13.04
[21:47] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, bootrepair from a live cd/usb regular fix will probably fix this as well, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repairsave the url generated.
[21:47] <k1l_> sgex: try the real xchat without that -gnome
[21:47] <sgex> cheers for suggestions, I know it was a generic question
[21:47] <sgex> I will
[21:47] <zykotick9> sgex: fyi, xchat-gnome is not xchat... just sayin'
[21:47] <wilee-nilee> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair*
[21:48] <kriskropd> OerHeks: no that wouldn't work because that is in regards to interactive mode
[21:49] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, If you get to the desktop with supergrub I will give you the loading the grub bootloader commands.
[21:50] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, thank you, I'm trying to make a bootable USB from supergrub
[21:50] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, unetbootin works fine, just choose the find any os in the gui, and choose the ubuntu choice to get in.
[21:51] <tommer> Paulfantom, are you here?
[21:51] <paulfantom> tommer, jep
[21:51] <tommer> ciekawe kiedy nas wywalą :P
[21:51] <paulfantom> może tego nie zrobią
[21:52] <wilee-nilee> tommer, paulfantom take it to the proper language channel please
[21:52] <wilee-nilee> or PM
[21:53] <Traccy> histo : -bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_US.UTF-8)
[21:54] <ubuntutis> i really need help with nightingale how do you import whole cds wit it
[21:54] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, I managed to boot from grub 2
[21:54] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, I'm on desktop
[21:54] <ubuntutis> i really need help with nightingale how do you import whole cds wit it
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, Cool is the HD sda run sudo fdisk -l to confirm this.
[21:56] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, sda5 is "Linux"
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, And this is not a former Windows 8 or uefi gpt dualboot right?
[21:56] <Traccy> i fix the problem of locale : anyone face it again read this = http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2499794/how-can-i-fix-a-locale-warning-from-perl
[21:57] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, This HD is a former windows 7 which I formatted through a windows 8 installation and then partitioned by installing ubuntu in it
[21:57] <vmussa> why? :o
[21:58] <ubuntutis> so nobody knows how to import whole cds to nightingale?
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, Right I'm just trying to make sure you are using a standard partitioning set up not the uefi gpt which uses a boot partition rather than the mbr for the boot loader.
[21:59] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, oh, tahnk you
[21:59] <k1l_> ubuntutis: if no one knows the answer you could take a look into ubuntuforums or askubuntu
[22:00] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, do you recommend reinstalling grub2 now?
[22:00] <Vivekananda> histo: the other on topic question was. after doing all that I got a static internal ip. so 1. could I give it a name so anyone wanting to go it write a word instead of 10.2.3.4 .. 2. If I wanted to expose this app to external world would I use the same ip ( reading material for it plz ) 3. I wanted to understand how all this set up takes place esp what nameserver does . ubuntu reading was helpful but more of it plz
[22:00] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, the two are different and have diffrent fixes, took a inordinate amount of posts and time to get you here by many on the channel, would like to get you fixed. ;)
[22:00] <Sk1Special> okay so im running the upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 in terminal..it said there was an issue with the desktop file and gave me a couple options..i chose to looj at the list using D and see what the differences were.. when i scroll to the end it just shows END.. how do i get back to the upgrade
[22:00] <ubuntutis> i tried googling the issue but it doesnt clarify t
[22:00] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, haha sure!
[22:00] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, Can you screenshot gparted and imagebin it you may need to install it.
[22:01] <Vivekananda> histo: sent you the pm too !
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin | vmussa
[22:02] <daftykins> Vivekananda: installing samba on it and configuring it to broadcast its' hostname may allow the other computers on the network to resolve its' IP by hostname, yeah
[22:02] <Sk1Special> okay i got back.. is it gonna mess with anything by accepting the new version of /etc/gnome/defaults.list?
[22:03] <daftykins> take a backup just in case
[22:03] <daftykins> i would say no
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, the bots message tells you the screenshot method and place to post it
[22:03] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, ok
[22:03] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, is it for future problems?
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, No I an jut trying to confirm your partitioning setup.
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> am*
[22:04] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, ok, I will do it the
[22:04] <vmussa> then*
[22:06] <MrSassyPants> ok, so I got no sound.
[22:07] <MrSassyPants> no reason.
[22:07] <MrSassyPants> everything seems to be in working order.
[22:07] <MrSassyPants> no errors.
[22:07] <MrSassyPants> just no sound.
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> MrSassyPants, The your hallucinating if there is no reason
[22:08] <MrSassyPants> wilee-nilee, there may be a reason but the system isn't telling me
[22:08] <MrSassyPants> I don't like it if it plays hard to get
[22:08] <demifuror> hey guys, what command can i use in the terminal to list connected hard drives (sata drives in this case)?
[22:08] <MrSassyPants> makes me get another system, you know
[22:08] <DAL|Desktop> Hullo, running 12.04, I can't figure out how to restart ALSA since there isn't a /etc/init.d/alsa-utils what should I be using instead?
[22:08] <wilee-nilee> demifuror, sudo fdisk -l will list all partitions
[22:09] <demifuror> wilee-nilee: whats the root password on a live cd?
[22:09] <histo> !sudo | demifuror
[22:09] <hadifarnoud> my squid doesn't have ssl support? sudo squid3 -v |grep ssl  shows me nothing
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> demifuror, Ubuntu has no root password.
[22:09] <histo> demifuror: there is no root password
[22:09] <histo> demifuror: sudo lsblk
[22:09] <histo> demifuror: or sudo blkid
[22:10] <Uni> hey, trying to update the ruby1.9.1 packages to patchlevel 448+some others, anyhow, having trouble finding out how to update alternatives from the package, would anyone know where I should look for this info?
[22:10] <demifuror> okay thanks guys
[22:10] <histo> demifuror: and actually lsblk doesn't require sudo priveledges
[22:10] <wilee-nilee> demifuror, there is a user password in the install to get superuser access.
[22:10] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, http://imagebin.org/266755
[22:13] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, Not gparted, okay lets do this install the bootrepair app, read carefully here, there is a bootinfo summary button run "just that" and post the url generated  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:13] <MrSassyPants> so, anyone know why I don't have sound?
[22:14] <Guest92835> hello, i've a problem with bricked foscam. I connect it with UART. Now I can see messages but I can't send "ESC" to enter in debug mode.
[22:14] <roger1> MrSassyPants: speakers plugged into power and turned on? Speaker jack plugged into right audio out port? Volume not muted? Volume turned up? p
[22:15] <MrSassyPants> yes. yes. yes. yes.
[22:15] <MrSassyPants> rebooting again...
[22:16] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, ok, but, you know, being a Linux newbie, I don't see why I should do it
[22:16] <vmussa> haha
[22:16] <ss__> hello, how long it usually takes to shrink file system and get unformatted space for other OS, besides ubuntu?
[22:17] <MrSassyPants> still nothing
[22:17] <ss__> I have booted Live CD, and trying to use Gparted for getting free partition, for other OS I want to install besides ubuntu
[22:17] <k1l_> ss__: depends on how big the hdd is, the partitions are, what filesystems, how fast the pc is, etc et c etc
[22:17] <histo> ss__: depends how much data is there that you are trying to move
[22:17] <ss__> 200 G
[22:17] <ss__> B
[22:17] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, DUDE YOU HAVE TAKEN A GIGANTIC AMOUNT OF TIME TO GET HERE, YOU DO NOT READ THE POSTS AND FOLLOW THEM, OR SAY WHEN YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND. WE NEED TO CONFIRM THE PARTITIONING SYSTEM TO FIX THIS CORRECTLY, THE BOOTINFO SUMMARY WILL GIVE US THE INFO NEEDED.
[22:17] <ss__> I need to free
[22:18] <k1l_> wilee-nilee: no need for caps.
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> ;) there is a point being missed here
[22:18] <roger1> MrSassyPants: if you haven't already... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[22:18] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, haha ok
[22:18] <histo> woooosahhhhhh
[22:18] <ss__> so shrinking of 600 gb OS takes long time with Gparted?
[22:18] <ss__> I think I have sata
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, I was not actually shouting just making a point.
[22:19] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, haha ok
[22:19] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, haha ok
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[22:19] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, oops, sorry for the triple message
[22:19] <k1l_> wilee-nilee: if you are done with your patience take a breath and give the support ticket to the next one
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> k1l_, My patience is fine.
[22:19] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, ok lol, I will do it then :D
[22:19] <k1l_> vmussa: we are volunteers. so please keep that in your mind, that others take their spare time to help here.
[22:20] <ss__> I don't want to loose files, but I have to stay to see if formatting will work out
[22:20] <vmussa> k1l_, wilee-nilee, I see
[22:20] <histo> ss__: resizing always risks data loss
[22:20] <ss__> histo, I did it
[22:20] <ss__> yes
[22:20] <MrSassyPants> roger1, it appears they're muted, but they're not
[22:21] <MrSassyPants> and yes, I did try mute & unmute everything
[22:26] <roger1> MrSassyPants: ok, good luck.
[22:27] <roger1> MrSassyPants: /me has to return to real life
[22:27] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, here is the link -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5956732/
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, Thanks a lot looks good just run this command sudo grub-install /dev/sda then run sudo update-grub and you should be set. ;)
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, From your install desktop of course in the terminal.
[22:29] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, but, in fact GRUB2 is now working normally here, should I do this anyway?
[22:29]  * xrandr loves having ubuntu on his new laptop instead of Windows 8 :)
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, So you see the grub bootmenu at powering on?
[22:30] <vmussa> yes o.o
[22:30] <vladimir> хэй
[22:30] <vmussa> I run this in the terminal: sudo apt-get install grub2
[22:30] <vmussa> ran*
[22:31] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, Heh, you had been manually booting before so it magically fixed itself or was this a communication problem?
[22:31] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, in fact, I only had to manually boot when I updated GRUB after removing X packages
[22:32] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, I updated GRUB that time, because I thought this was the problem
[22:32] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, then I got a GRUB version without graphic interface
[22:32] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, You had at one point said grub got you in but after we were working on supergrub which boots grub, so anyway glad your working, lol.
[22:33] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, after I reinstalled the X packages, I reinstalled grub too, I didn't use supergrub
[22:33] <Eduard_Munteanu> Is there an Ubuntu-specific way to reorder / set the default soundcard?
[22:33] <Eduard_Munteanu> Or just the same old /etc/modprobe.d stuff?
[22:34] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, it was me the one who was helped here so thank you :)
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, just a mix up, I tried to ask very specific questions and still failed to get the exact info needed, it happens, glad you are up and running normal. ;)
[22:37] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, thank you, I couldn't have made it without you guys.
[22:37] <fishcooker> i've tried lubuntu 12.04 on my box but  always kernel panic
[22:37] <fishcooker> which release should i use
[22:37] <daftykins> fishcooker: what's the system spec?
[22:37] <fishcooker> im using lubuntu i386
[22:37] <fishcooker> how to know the system spec daftykins
[22:38] <Sk1Special> any special things i need to do after upgrading from 12.10 to 13.04 via terminal? it was saying a lot of stuff about removing my programs and changing  things.
[22:38] <fishcooker> i've installed netbook version on it
[22:38] <fishcooker> 10.04
[22:38] <fishcooker> and seem it not stable
[22:38] <fishcooker> anymore
[22:38] <daftykins> fishcooker: umm do you have a make + model ?
[22:38] <wilee-nilee> !eol | fishcooker
[22:38] <k1l_> 10.04 is out of support for desktop
[22:38] <fishcooker> yes i know wilee-nilee
[22:38] <fishcooker> that;s why
[22:38] <fishcooker> i want to fresh install it
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> fishcooker, the netbook version has not been supported in a long time.
[22:39] <fishcooker> yes
[22:39] <fishcooker>  i know it
[22:39] <fishcooker> but afaik
[22:39] <fishcooker> those special box
[22:39] <daftykins> that's what we call an old-fashioned lynching
[22:39] <fishcooker> have installed with netbook version
[22:39] <fishcooker> it works well till i do release upgrade
[22:39] <fishcooker> so here i want to fresh install
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> daftykins, I have a degree in Black Studies that is an offesive comment
[22:40] <fishcooker> which release should i take?
[22:40] <daftykins> fishcooker: what make+model is it?
[22:40] <fishcooker> i still have root access to those box
[22:40] <fishcooker> daftykins:
[22:40] <fishcooker> how?
[22:40] <fishcooker> it's shenzhen
[22:40] <fishcooker> box
[22:40] <fishcooker> how to know the model
[22:41] <fishcooker> through command line daftykins
[22:41] <daftykins> does it not have a label anywhere?
[22:41] <CodySmith> hey guys!!!
[22:41] <CodySmith> hows it going
[22:41] <daftykins> 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' - 'lspci' - etc
[22:41] <daftykins> CodySmith: hi, good. do you have a question?
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> CodySmith, ubuntu support here chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:42] <CodySmith> no just seeing whats up :0
[22:42] <ajeffri> lshw might also have hardware ifo
[22:42] <ajeffri> if it's installed
[22:42] <Hrvatski> :D
[22:43] <daftykins> ajeffri: not exactly readable though XD
[22:43] <Hrvatski> hello gays kkk
[22:43] <Moe> ubottu
[22:44] <ajeffri> daftykins: definitely needs to be piped through grep or more
[22:44] <fishcooker> lspci
[22:44] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5956775/
[22:44] <Moe> ubottu is a bot!
[22:44] <fishcooker> lshw
[22:44] <daftykins> 8D
[22:45] <Moe> You are a bot!
[22:45] <Moe> AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[22:45] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5956779/
[22:45] <histo> fishcooker: memtest
[22:45] <k1l_> Moe: do you have a ubuntu support issue?
[22:45] <daftykins> fishcooker: so what did lubuntu do again sorry?
[22:45] <Moe> YEP!
[22:45] <fishcooker> there is no memtest histo
[22:45] <histo> !memtest
[22:45] <fishcooker> always kernel panic daftykins
[22:46] <daftykins> fishcooker: i'd try a memtest as histo recommends then
[22:46] <Moe> bye
[22:46] <histo> !testing | fishcooker
[22:46] <fishcooker> hmmm
[22:46] <fishcooker> why should i test memtest
[22:46] <fishcooker> the previous netbook version
[22:46] <fishcooker> work well there
[22:47] <fishcooker> till do release upgrade
[22:47] <Tom6> Embrace kitten! ^^ http://www.dogandcat74.ru/files/images/000-12-1024x768_0.preview.jpg
[22:47] <Tom6> :)))
[22:47] <fishcooker> cpu info
[22:47] <k1l_> !ot | Tom6
[22:47] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5956784/
[22:48] <daftykins> fishcooker: seems a pretty good spec, maybe your install medium was damaged / badly made
[22:48] <daftykins> fishcooker: memtest will only cost you time then you'll know for sure
[22:48] <fishcooker> hmmm
[22:48] <fishcooker> yes i will give it a try
[22:49] <fishcooker> but im work kinda from a remote place
[22:49] <fishcooker> that's why i ask here
[22:49] <fishcooker> which release for this special box
[22:49] <fishcooker> or it is the fate for the box
[22:49] <fishcooker> using the eol version of netbook edition
[22:49] <fishcooker> LoL
[22:50] <daftykins> fishcooker: doubt it :) it should easily run lots
[22:50] <fishcooker> well let's assume that the media install (lubuntu*.iso) is bad media
[22:51] <fishcooker> but according to my data paste
[22:51] <fishcooker> what should you advice to me daftykins
[22:51] <fishcooker> for the release version?
[22:52] <daftykins> fishcooker: xubuntu or lubuntu 12.04.2 or newer, in general
[22:52] <Tom6> Mexican advertising chainsaws. http://www.bestgore.com/beheading/chainsaw-beheading-video-sinaloa-cartel-members-decapitated-mexico/
[22:52] <italia> hi, how can i go to system in ubuntu 13.04 please
[22:53] <fishcooker> ok thanks
[22:53] <fishcooker> i'll give it a try
[22:53] <fishcooker> thanks all
[22:54] <italia> #sex
[22:54] <wilee-nilee> italia, What is the end goal with system?
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> don't bother answering your in ignore now
[22:57] <Ghoul_> test
[22:57] <daftykins> Ghoul_: hi
[22:57] <Ghoul_> Hi guys! I built the current kernel 3.8.0 to test building a custom kernel with a non-faulty dsdt. I followed instructions exactly including copying the existing config from my stock ubuntu kernel in 13.04
[22:58] <Ghoul_> however it fails to find root device on boot and grub times out. Any ideas?
[22:58] <derrikmaster> hi all how i scroll up/down in irssi client?
[22:58] <Ghoul_> pgup/pgdwn
[22:58] <derrikmaster> thanks
[22:58] <Ghoul_> or press a few different buttons. I don't fully remember sorry
[22:58] <daftykins> !dev
[22:58] <daftykins> hrmm
[22:59] <Ghoul_> Failure to find root device couldn't be the fault of the dsdt right?
[22:59] <daftykins> Ghoul_: i think there was a developers channel that might be more apt, #ubuntu-devel perhaps
[22:59] <ajeffri> Ghoul_: sounds like you need to run update-grub or something
[22:59] <Ghoul_> ah ok. thans
[22:59] <ajeffri> good call...you should probably check with the devs on this
[22:59] <Ghoul_> I looked at the grub file myself (i'm an arch user, so im pretty apt at that) and it looks fine
[23:00] <Ghoul_> the command line params are exactly the same for my custom one and the one that boots
[23:00] <ajeffri> update-grub does the actual writing-to-the-mbr thing, though
[23:00] <Ghoul_> whats really strange is when i get dropped into grub shell theres no drivers under /dev D: I'll take it up with the devs, thanks.
[23:00] <ajeffri> Oh.
[23:01] <ajeffri> definitely a problem for someone with more knowledge than I. I hope you are able to get help.
[23:03] <Ghoul_> :)
[23:03] <Ghoul_> I find it really annoying they removed the ability to load the dsdt from grub
[23:03] <daftykins> i don't even know what dsdt is :(
[23:04] <derrikmaster> lsmod
[23:04] <Sk1Special> how do i get to /etc/modules to edit it?
[23:04] <derrikmaster> ups
[23:05] <derrikmaster> sry wrong window
[23:05] <Sk1Special> thats the last part to get this wireless usb working.. i need to add ndiswrapper to /etc/modules so it loads on startup it says.
[23:05] <wilee-nilee> Ghoul_, For the record any kernels beside the stock installs are technically not supported.
[23:06] <daftykins> Sk1Special: just run 'sudo modprobe <modulename>'
[23:06] <wilee-nilee> Sk1Special, Can you share the usb modem with the channel.
[23:07] <daftykins> s/modem/dongle/
[23:08] <Ghoul_> toshiba put 2 dsdt's in my laptop, and linux (inc ubuntu) grabs the wrong one -- which doesn't have working battery or thermal, so I don't really have a choice
[23:08] <Ghoul_> brb rebooting from some advice from devels :)
[23:08] <Sk1Special> wilee-nilee, daftykins lol its a broadcom bcm43231. none of the linux drivers work for that exact model.. but i found the windows driver loader thing that does get it to work..and its working now..the guide was just saying that i had to run gksudo /etc/modules and add 'ndiswrapper' to that list so that i wouldnt have to restart it everytime i restarted..but that command didnt return anything so
[23:09] <daftykins> Sk1Special: ah cool
[23:09] <daftykins> Sk1Special: so how come wired wasn't an option? 'cause like once you upgrade you'll probably need to undo a lot of what you've done :<
[23:09] <daftykins> or even re-do
[23:10] <Sk1Special> daftykins, ah yeah no already finished upgrading and all through a shared wired link to my laptop..but obviously that wont work longterm so. i ran sudo modprobe ndiswrapper like you said..didnt give me any feedback just took it..so is that good now?
[23:11] <daftykins> Sk1Special: you may need to restart network manager to make it realise - if the interface has just appeared
[23:12] <Sk1Special> daftykins, i need to do what? exactly how? lol. here before we do all that..let me restart and see if it stays
[23:12] <daftykins> ;)
[23:15] <Sk1Special> while im here.. is it normal to have an exceptionally long start up? before it says ubuntu when it gets to just the cursor flashing it stays there for a good 2 minutes with no activity lights showing
[23:16] <daftykins> Sk1Special: what kind of computer? laptop? what brand? what kind of storage, SSD/HDD?
[23:17] <Sk1Special> daftykins, well pc, hdd, around 60gb free i think, older core 2 duo setup..im just asking cus its significantly longer then 12.10 startup was
[23:17] <fudus> sporks
[23:18] <daftykins> Sk1Special: is it the only OS on there?
[23:18] <daftykins> Sk1Special: ah actually you said cursor flashing, that could be post HDD read - try playing with bootchart
[23:19] <Sk1Special> daftykins, mhh..only os on the drive.. i have another drive with win8 installed. but its just taking a lot longer then it did before i upgraded from 12.10 is all.
[23:19] <Sk1Special> daftykins, boot chart? ah the wireless is working. ok ill worry about the start up another day since its not a huge deal. how do i shrink my second monitor by about an inch so it all fits on the screen
[23:19] <daftykins> Sk1Special: probably a potential downside to upgrades over clean installs *shrug* bootchart should show where the delay is
[23:19] <fudus> do you have encrypted swap? that bugged out for me in 13 and i had to change it to unencrypted
[23:20] <daftykins> Sk1Special: how do you mean shrink a monitor?
[23:21] <Sk1Special> daftykins, like, i have a dual monitor setup, and it does this same thing in windows, to where the second monitor..the picture is about an inch to big. maybe half inch. so instead of seeing the whole menu bar at the top..i just see a sliver of grey
[23:21] <daftykins> Sk1Special: is it connected over HDMI?
[23:21] <fudus> change the resolution of the second monitor to native, highest is usually it
[23:21] <Sk1Special> daftykins, yeah. is it just an hdmi issue? i have a vga cable i could use too
[23:21] <daftykins> HDMI tends to do overscan especially on TVs
[23:21] <karoly> Hi!
[23:22] <Sk1Special> fudus, yeah tried all the resolutions. yeah it is supposed to be a tv.
[23:22] <daftykins> Sk1Special: what graphics? i've adjusted overscan in nvidia's settings before, but not sure on others
[23:22] <Sk1Special> daftykins, ah its nvidia
[23:22] <daftykins> it's definitely overscan if it's a TV
[23:22] <daftykins> Sk1Special: cool, run nvidia-settings and look for the overscan value slider
[23:24] <Sk1Special> daftykins, ah.. dont see an overscan bar, dithering, mode, depth, vibrance,sharpening, ..
[23:24] <lauralee> hello boys! I'm using Windows XP which I don't want anymore, I want to move to Ubuntu 13.04 which I already downloaded, the think is I have 12GB of pics songs I want to save, is there a way to create a partition to move those files then see them under ubuntu?
[23:25] <lauralee> if so, how?
[23:25] <lauralee> thanks!
[23:25] <MaximLevitsky> could someone help me with layouts in swing?
[23:26] <MaximLevitsky> sorry, wrong channel
[23:26] <daftykins> MaximLevitsky: a java channel might be somewhat more appropriate
[23:26] <daftykins> XD
[23:26] <daftykins> lauralee: hi, you could install ubuntu alongside XP instead and then simply read the windows drive?
[23:27] <Kardos> hey, so i tried to install a .deb file from sid unstable  - it failed due to dependencies -- ok fine, but now my apt-get is fuckered, it somehow has that install pending and won't go away (apt-get clean, apt-get update, apt-get -f install, all of these didn't fix it)
[23:27] <Kardos> any ideas?
[23:27] <derrik> if you have only one partition and it takes all hd space you have to shrink it with some program, then create another partition for those pics... easiest would be to just backup them to external hd or usb stick
[23:27] <karoly> lauralee: you could use EASUS Partition Manager
[23:28] <lauralee> karoly:  from windows?
[23:28] <karoly> lauralee: Yep
[23:28] <lauralee> awesome!
[23:28] <lauralee> what format should I use to make it shown in windows and linux?
[23:28] <daftykins> Kardos: pastebin apt-get -f install ?
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> lauralee, Make sure xp is fully defragged before resizing, that can be a bricking situation on occasion, I would have a clone of it to start with.
[23:30] <Kardos> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/7kswumCN
[23:31] <derrik> why dont you just buy usb stick.. its like 10 euros
[23:31] <derrik> and backup those pics
[23:32] <Kardos> i want to keep libxml2 version 2.7.8.dfsg-5.1ubuntu4.6 from precise repos, and get rid of 2.9.0+dfsg1-4ubuntu4.3
[23:32] <daftykins> Kardos: 'dpkg purge libxml2 libxml2:i386 libxml2-dev' do anything?
[23:32] <Kardos> dpkg: error: need an action option
[23:32] <histo> !pin | Kardos
[23:32] <derrik> or you could upload those pics into some cloud drive on the internet
[23:32] <Sk1Special> can she not just use whatever form of cloude storage that can be viewed in both? skydrive, google drive, etc.
[23:33] <Sk1Special> lol.
[23:33] <derrik> lol
[23:33] <Sk1Special> and i have no overscan slider. so ima just plug in my vga cable instead
[23:33] <histo> lauralee: ext3 can be seen by both with a driver installed for windows. fs-driver.org  or you could use ntfs or fat32
[23:34] <daftykins> Kardos: maybe dpkg -r <package> (where package = package.deb)
[23:34] <Kardos> dpkg: error: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in
[23:35] <Kardos> on one hand, it serves me right for attempting to do anything outside of the package manager, but on the other hand, what the fuck >:|
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> !language | Kardos
[23:36] <Kardos> i dont see how pinning will help here
[23:36] <Kardos> i can't do any install or deinstall of any package whatsoever
[23:36] <fudus> time for reinstall of ubuntu ;)
[23:36] <Kardos> no ;P
[23:36] <daftykins> Kardos: yeah, whichever name the package calls itself then :)
[23:37] <daftykins> Kardos: in fairness when you said you also took it from another distro - eek.
[23:37] <fudus> it probably blew up libc or something with a different version and that works... poorly
[23:37] <Kardos> but it didn't install!
[23:38] <daftykins> Kardos: does your 'view' still show the history when you tried to install it? showing what it calls itself? in fact just go to install it again and take the name it uses :)
[23:38] <McDeffice> I have an problem for compiling kvirc with svn source : kvirc/src/modules/snd/libkvisnd.cpp:37:18: error fatale: QSound : No such file or directory <-- How install QSound ?
[23:38] <fudus> try build-dep kvirc beforehand?
[23:39] <fudus> that'll fetch the 34343 kde modules it needs
[23:39] <Kardos> http://pastebin.com/EwWuY1Bu
[23:40] <Kardos> so it didn't install
[23:41] <Sk1Special> i just plugged swapped my cables from hdmi to vga and it shut off my pc?
[23:41] <Sk1Special> when i rebooted it brought me straight to the desktop tho..no start up
[23:42] <dante123> anyone have knowledge of dual booting Ubuntu with win 8 on lenovo ideapad y510p
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | dante123
[23:43] <wilee-nilee> dante123, Might be something here on that unit if not start a thread there maybe. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> I see two threads onthat page on that computer
[23:44] <dante123> did read that, just wondering if anyone had experience doing it with lenovo.....like easier or harder than other manufacturers
[23:44] <dante123> OK will check
[23:45] <hadifarnoud> I followed this guide http://pleasefeedthegeek.wordpress.com/2012/04/21/l2tp-ubuntu-server-setup-for-ios-clients/ for L2TP vpn. it connects but I cannot access any website. I think step 3 is wrong. can anyone help?
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> dante123, In general that dual boot works for some and not others, depends I think, on the knowledge and willingness to research by any single user
[23:47] <usr13> hadifarnoud: Did you substitute your LAN's subnet for "192.168.1.0"?
[23:48] <hadifarnoud> usr13: is it the private IP I set in vpn settings?
[23:48] <adeonn> hello
[23:48] <Kardos> ahhhh the solution was, force feed it the old .deb from precise repo
[23:48]  * Kardos kicks dpkg for being so stupid 
[23:48] <Sk1Special> dual booting scares me everytime i setup it up with win8.. but only because i dont want windows to die, and not have a copy i can use to replace it.
[23:48] <usr13> hadifarnoud: It's what ever subnet you use.  What is the ip of your router?
[23:49] <daftykins> Sk1Special: bought a system and got no windows disc is it?
[23:49] <hadifarnoud> usr13: 166.78.114.1
[23:49] <hadifarnoud> that's my server gateway usr13
[23:49] <Sk1Special> daftykins, lol yeah for my laptop.. i did it on all my home pcs while i was in school because we got free copies.. but didnt get around to the laptop before i dropped so.
[23:50] <McDeffice> I have an problem for compiling kvirc with svn source : kvirc/src/modules/snd/libkvisnd.cpp:37:18: error fatale: QSound : No such file or directory <-- How install QSound ? <fudus> try build-dep kvirc beforehand? <- how build dep ?
[23:50] <daftykins> Sk1Special: d'aww
[23:51] <Sk1Special> lol..uh. i just booted into linux, andthe screen froze, and my keyboards caps lock and scroll lock started flashing together every half second or so?
[23:51] <trism> McDeffice: sudo apt-get build-dep kvirc; is the command
[23:51] <daftykins> Sk1Special: that's one of those kernel panics
[23:52] <zykotick9> trism: while true for the ubuntu package, who knows what the upstream svn needs?
[23:53] <Sk1Special> ah.. bsod for ubuntu. mmk. yay. i guess ubuntu doesnt like it when i switch monitor cables while running.
[23:53] <hadifarnoud> usr13: my ip range for L2TP vpn is  192.168.1.231-192.168.1.239   when I connect to it, I get 192.168.1.233   considering that, is step 3 wrong? iptables does not redirect traffic to me.
[23:53] <usr13> hadifarnoud: Well, only you know the your network and what subnets these settings should be in.
[23:53] <McDeffice> thank you trism, another problem: The "stable" distribution target unavailable for the package "kvirc" is ignored
[23:53] <trism> zykotick9: oh indeed, it could require more/less packages, or stuff newer than the repos, but he asked for the command at the end
[23:54] <hadifarnoud> usr13: I followed the guide and changed wherever he said I should use my IP. the only place I had to use my IPs was /etc/ipsec.d/l2tp-psk.conf file in step 2
[23:55] <trism> McDeffice: what are you doing when you get that message?
[23:55] <Sk1Special> daftykins, whatever happened killed my wireless thing.. didnt auto start this time?
[23:56] <usr13> hadifarnoud: Ok, assuming the other settings are correct, if you used 192.168.1.0/24 that will mean that it is going to share it's connection with the 192.168.1.x network.  (192.168.1.0/24 is the whole subnet from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.254)
[23:56] <daftykins> Sk1Special: very odd. it's quite possible the driver tripped up and caused the kernel panic and perhaps its removed it from loading for safety
[23:56] <usr13> hadifarnoud: Ok then, it should work.
[23:57] <hadifarnoud> usr13: that means I should be able to get internet then. but it doesn't :(
[23:57] <usr13> hadifarnoud: Can you ping the gateway IP?
[23:57] <hadifarnoud> usr13: any way I can see what's happening?
[23:57] <Sk1Special> daftykins, maybe? when i switched my monitor cables from hdmi to vga a bunch of error messages sarted popping up, and it shut down, and when i cut it back on it booted straight to the desktop..so i restarted it and that happened..and it says it still sees the driver/hardware so..idk. restarting again now..
[23:57] <hadifarnoud> wait
[23:59] <trism> McDeffice: kind of sounds like you don't have the source repos, and it also sounds like you're using debian, not ubuntu