[00:00] <pleia2> hazxubxmir: if you open a terminal and run: ps ax | grep system-comp
[00:00] <pleia2> if more than just the grep command returns, it's proably running
[00:00] <hazxubxmir> yes I did that in the beggining
[00:00] <pleia2> should have several lines of stuff show up if it's running
[00:01] <hazxubxmir> oh ok run that again?
[00:01] <pleia2> if you don't remember what it said, yeah :)
[00:01] <Unit193> Log file will show 3 times, grep once.
[00:01] <hazxubxmir> ok thanks will check brb
[00:01] <pleia2> it's only looking at your process list and pulling some things out
[00:01] <pleia2> not actually doing anything to your system
[00:05] <hazxubxmir> ok, it appears I'm only getting 2 log files and 1 grep
[00:07] <Unit193> On the Mir page, you can also see a screenshot of what you should get, if you want to add | pastebinit  and give thelink here, we can tell you for sure, but sounds as if you're using xorg.
[00:07] <hazxubxmir> ok mir page is where
[00:09] <hazxubxmir> don't matter I found that page
[00:10] <hazxubxmir> so now how do I get xmir to work
[00:11] <Unit193> Alright.  1.  You aren't running this in a VM, right?  2. What's the output of the log window?
[00:12] <hazxubxmir> hold up I have to do it again
[00:12] <knome> Unit193, maybe the mir page should say that in cat sized letters... :)
[00:13] <hazxubxmir>  945 ?        S      0:00 /bin/sh /usr/sbin/unity-system-compositor.sleep --enable-input=false --from-dm-fd 7 --to-dm-fd 13 --vt 7
[00:13] <hazxubxmir>   955 ?        Sl     1:09 /usr/sbin/unity-system-compositor --enable-input=false --from-dm-fd 7 --to-dm-fd 13 --vt 7
[00:13] <hazxubxmir> 23467 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto system-comp
[00:13] <Unit193> I put it in bold.
[00:13] <Unit193> hazxubxmir: You're running XMir.
[00:15] <hazxubxmir> oh goodie, thank mate, only reason I wanted to check, that any comments I do make wanted to be sure that is was xmir working
[00:20] <hazxubxmir> 1 more question does that command have to entered each time when booting in
[00:26] <Unit193> hazxubxmir: Not at all, all it's doing is looking at the list of running applications, a task manager.
[00:27] <hazxubxmir> ok mate, many thanks for your help
[00:28] <Unit193> Sure, have a good one.
[00:28] <hazxubxmir> alwasy and u too
[00:28] <hazxubxmir> oops always
[00:39] <slooksterpsv> sorry I haven't been on much my system keeps just shutting off, not sure if its a heat issue or kernel panic
[00:45] <Unit193> Well that's not good.
[03:20] <Unit193> Do they not get what's written on the can?
[03:30] <skellat> Unit193: Hunh?
[04:34] <xubuntu-mir647> hi all... connected just to say: xmir + xubuntu is amazing!!!
[04:36] <xubuntu-mir647> if I install xubuntu + xmir, can I update my system without losing xmir?
[04:37] <holstein> !13.10
[04:37] <holstein> xubuntu-mir647: is that what you are talking about? from 13.10?
[04:37] <xubuntu-mir647> yes... posting from xubuntu iso live cd + xmir
[04:38] <xubuntu-mir647> I loved xmir...
[04:38] <OvenWerks> I think xmir packaging uses replaces xorg
[04:38] <xubuntu-mir647> want to keep it on my pc
[04:38] <OvenWerks> so upgrade should work.
[04:38] <xubuntu-mir647> nice... thanks!
[04:38] <xubuntu-mir647> will try to install now.
[04:38] <xubuntu-mir647> tks
[04:42] <OvenWerks> didn't wait around long enough for the "this is alpha sw" disclaimer ;)
[04:52] <Unit193> Wonder why he thought it was amazing.
[04:54] <OvenWerks> maybe he tried it with unity first
[05:27] <hazxubxmir> don't know if anyone else has noticed but scrolling and typing is at times very slow, 
[05:51] <Unit193> Yep, known bug.
[07:36] <cub> Good morning (at least it's morning here), I've been trying to run the Xmir tests on http://vanir.unit193.tk/mir/
[07:37] <cub> It seems I'm not allowed to log on to the etherpad. When sharing through the mailing list, are the screenshots really everything you need? No HW specs or anything?
[07:44] <Noskcaj> cub, hardware helps, but most of the current bugs are hardware independent
[07:44] <Pwnna> are there discussions about acutally doing mir as default?
[07:45] <Pwnna> imo we shouldn't include xmir until at least 14.04
[07:45] <Pwnna> uh. i mean 14.10
[07:45] <Noskcaj> Pwnna, yep, the final meeting on it is at the end of the month
[07:48] <Pwnna> Noskcaj: can anyone give feedback/opinions?
[07:48] <cub> Is it worth the effort to set up the ether pad?
[07:48] <Noskcaj> Pwnna, everyone can
[07:48] <Pwnna> use mozilla's etherpad
[07:49] <Pwnna> Noskcaj: where?
[07:49] <Noskcaj> Pwnna, mailing list and here.
[07:49] <Pwnna> okay.
[07:49] <Noskcaj> i have to go, bye
[07:49] <Pwnna> i don't see a dedicated discussion thread
[07:49] <Pwnna> so i wasn't sure
[07:50] <cub> Pwnna, I meant the Etherpad as instructed on the Xubuntu Xmir page.
[07:51] <Pwnna> where's that page?
[07:51] <cub> http://vanir.unit193.tk/mir/
[07:52] <cub> "If you would like to share your results with the team, please do so at Xubuntu etherpad, or on the mailing list."
[07:52] <cub> But the Etherpad requires authorization
[07:52] <Pwnna> oh. i see
[07:52] <Pwnna> ....
[07:52] <Pwnna> why oh why.
[07:52] <Pwnna> don't we have a wiki
[07:52] <cub> and I figured if I was going to run several tests it might be easier to set it up.
[07:53] <Pwnna> setup an etherpad instance?
[08:41] <knome> Pwnna, if you need access to the etherpad, you can get that by having a launchpad account
[08:42] <knome> cub, ^
[08:42] <knome> Pwnna, cub: then just join the ubuntu-etherpad team (and once you're approved to that team, you can access the ubuntu pad)
[08:42] <Pwnna> there are no public etherpads?
[08:43] <knome> Pwnna, sure there are.
[09:24] <cub> knome, thanks for the pointers. I have updated my tests in etherpad.
[09:24] <knome> cub, np, thank you
[10:54] <PsynoKhi0> howdy, is the XMir test ISO's performance expected to be painfully slow at this stage?
[18:16] <tr33m4n> anyone else unable to log into the Xubuntu etherpad?
[18:17] <pleia2> tr33m4n: you need to be in the etherpad group, let me know your launchpad name and I can ad dyou
[18:17] <tr33m4n> ah, think it's tr33m4n
[18:17] <drc> nope, fine for me
[18:17] <pleia2> tr33m4n@googlemail.com ?
[18:17] <tr33m4n> yes
[18:18] <pleia2> tr33m4n: ok, added you
[18:18] <tr33m4n> thanks :)
[18:18] <pleia2> should be able to log in now
[18:18] <tr33m4n> yep all fine, thanks
[18:59] <Unit193> http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1308067-SO-XUBUNTUXM33
[19:01] <pleia2> nice
[19:08] <lderan> so on the tests it does beat normal xubuntu it is a very small win mmm
[19:17] <Unit193> I think you read it backwards.
[19:21] <lderan> well it only beats normal xubuntu on 2 tests i think
[19:21] <lderan> 4*
[19:34] <Unit193> Xmir is generally slower, though.
[19:34] <lderan> yup
[19:35] <Unit193> Tearing seems to win, but you can fix that in xorg.conf
[19:35] <lderan> 2 of those 4 it only beats normal xubuntu by 0.003%
[19:36] <drc> yeah, but it's a dry 0.003%.
[19:52] <Unit193> Best guess on the number of total downloads, 1769.
[19:53] <pleia2> wow :)
[19:54] <Unit193> And my guess was going for ~50...
[20:01] <Unit193> Someone said I should make a LindsayLohanOS, but I don't want to! :(
[20:01] <drc> The DEA would probably shut you down.
[20:02] <pleia2> people love telling me what I should do with my time
[20:02] <Unit193> drc: Aha!
[20:03] <drc> OK,lets say 1700 DL's...how many reported tests so far?
[20:03] <Unit193> Mhmm... Yeah, not that many.
[20:04] <drc> pleia2: it's for you own good, you know :)
[20:09] <lderan> pleia2, has to be done :P
[20:16] <drc> Unit193: I wonder if  there would have been more test results if one didn't have to have an account to report said results??
[20:18] <Unit193> I'd assume so, maybe a little more spam, but who knows.  I would have been good using mozpad or piratepad.  I just don't dislike Ubuntu etherpad like I do the pastebin. :P
[20:35] <lderan> :P
[23:02] <pleia2> skellat: nice email to the list
[23:02] <skellat> pleia2: Thanks
[23:53] <lucas> hi all... I need some help...
[23:53] <lucas> I installed xubuntu + mir last night...
[23:53] <lucas> while on live cd, all worked fine...
[23:54] <lucas> but after the installation, I'm having issues with "colored" blocks on the screen...
[23:55] <lucas> and I dont know where to start the debugging...
[23:55] <lucas> does someone esperienced something like that?
[23:55] <pleia2> lucas: at this point it's best to just file bug reports
[23:55] <pleia2> it's under heavy active development so we haven't really been doing much debugging, mostly they are just bugs :)
[23:57] <lucas> tks for the answer...
[23:57] <pleia2> lucas: you can also try #ubuntu-mir
[23:57] <pleia2> that's where the mir devs hang out, and I'm sure they can always use interested debuggers
[23:58] <lucas> I will try looking the syslog, and ati driver...
[23:58] <pleia2> (though it is a bit late in the day for them)
[23:58] <lucas> I think my issue is driver related...
[23:58] <lucas> thanks anyway.