[06:10] <inetpro> good morning
[06:17] <mazal> morning inetpro 
[06:19] <inetpro> hi mazal
[06:23] <Kilos> hi inetpro mazal and others
[06:25] <Kilos> lo Squirm nuvolari 
[06:27] <mazal> More oom
[06:27] <mazal> Kilos, my woes got even worse last night :-(
[06:28] <inetpro> goeie more oom Kilos
[06:35] <Superhuman> Hey guys
[06:36] <Superhuman> I'm losing access to the quassel core I'm using atm (within the next 24 hours). What IRC clients do you guys use?
[06:46] <inetpro> Superhuman: quassel
[06:46] <inetpro> Superhuman: are you changing jobs?
[07:00] <Superhuman> morning guys
[07:14] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[07:25] <Kilos> morning Superhuman 
[07:26] <Superhuman> morning Kilos 
[07:26]  * Superhuman doesn't have a quassel core connection anymore, so now I'm back on XChat...
[07:26] <Kilos> xchat is lekker
[07:27] <Kilos> and i preferred konversation to quassel
[07:28] <Superhuman> I really do prefer quassel, I only setup IRC connection once, and connect all my devices through that core. And I have LOADS of logs to look at if I jump into a conversation.
[07:29] <Kilos> ah
[08:16] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[08:17] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[08:17] <psyatw> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[08:17] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[08:18] <Kilos> i dunno if you greeted earlier. pc hung and lost drive. had to boot from maverick and run fsck -f
[08:20] <psyatw> Kilos, does that keep happening?
[08:20] <psyatw> wouldn´t you want to copy your data off that drive onto another drive just to be safe?
[08:20] <Kilos> ya something bad wrong with this drive but disk utility says its healthy
[08:21] <Kilos> yeah im doing that now
[08:22] <Kilos> made a /styorage partition on it with gparted from maverick and just gotta sort permissions
[08:22] <Kilos> grrr
[08:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning
[08:24] <mazal> Kilos, I booted that external of mine at home last night , broken as well. Looks like just booting at work broke it for my home pc as well :-(
[08:24] <Kilos> ai!
[08:25] <Kilos> fsck it mazal 
[08:25] <Kilos> sudo fsck -f device
[08:25] <mazal> Won't help
[08:25] <mazal> It had the same problem as here. Unity don't start. No launcher or system bars
[08:26] <Kilos> its because you fiddled with graphics
[08:27] <mazal> Fortunately I have those paranoid backups and imaging procedures. Loaded back my redo image of Sunday and it was fine again 
[08:27] <Kilos> hehe
[08:28] <mazal> I didn't fiddle with anything , it broke itself. I just booted it here , checked what driver was in use , and shut it down. Didn't change anything
[08:28] <Kilos> ai!
[08:33] <Kilos> wbb
[09:23] <SilverCode> does anyone have any idea where the $TZ environment variable is set in Kubuntu
[09:30] <tumbleweed> it usually isn't
[10:01] <charl> good afternoon all
[10:15] <Kilos> hmm...
[10:15] <Kilos> lo charl
[10:52] <charl> hi Kilos 
[10:52] <charl> how's it going
[10:56] <Kilos> good ty and you charl?
[10:58] <magespawn> afternoon all
[11:00] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[11:01] <Kilos> does gufw stop hackers from getting onto your pc?
[11:03] <magespawn> what is gufw?
[11:03] <Kilos> graphic firewall
[11:04] <Kilos> the gui of ufw
[11:04] <Kilos> Maaz, define ufw
[11:04] <Maaz> Kilos: I don't know about ufw. Maybe you meant vfw, ufa, ufo, uw, wfw or ufs?
[11:04] <magespawn> ahh that is the idea of a firewall, there are ways past them but it takes some work
[11:04] <Kilos> ufw is the built in firewall
[11:07] <Kilos> another thing if you use sudo passwd to change a password is it only effective after rebooting
[11:07] <magespawn> firewalls control what traffic goes where
[11:07] <magespawn> think of a firewall as a security barrier between your pc and the internet
[11:08] <magespawn> bit like a trellidor
[11:08] <Kilos> ya this one can block incoming and allow outgoing but i didnt know if that stops hackers as well
[11:08] <Kilos> hehe
[11:08] <Kilos> if its closed ya
[11:08] <magespawn> the hackers use the incoming traffic that is how they would have the computer run programs
[11:09] <magespawn> now you see, the fire wall on its own will do nothing it has to be properly configured
[11:09] <magespawn> a lot of firewalls come with default setups that are generally okay
[11:09] <Kilos> i left it to block incoming
[11:10] <magespawn> you could always ask somebody to test from the outside if you trust them
[11:11] <magespawn> that is also the point of getting a cloak
[11:11] <magespawn> makes you harder to find
[11:11] <Kilos> ah
[11:12] <magespawn> for eg ping this 41.133.66.1
[11:12] <Kilos> ok
[11:13] <Kilos> Maaz, ping 41.133.66.1
[11:13] <Maaz> Kilos: 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4007ms
[11:14] <magespawn> okay now that is my router address but i have set it to drop/ignore pings
[11:15] <Kilos> ah
[11:15] <magespawn> also makes it harder to find
[11:26] <magespawn> brb restart
[11:33] <magespawn> back
[11:34] <Kilos> wb
[11:36] <magespawn> i just drove one of these http://www.jaguar.com/za/en/allnewxj/
[11:39] <magespawn> how the other half live, came back down to earth with a bump, had to get into my golf afterwards
[11:39] <Kilos> ai
[11:40] <Kilos> but you havent got the debt they have
[11:41] <magespawn> maybe the guy payed cash, he seemed quite relaxed to let me drive it
[11:41] <Kilos> lol never
[11:42] <Kilos> insurance
[11:42] <magespawn> does not usually cover complete strangers
[11:42] <Kilos> ah
[11:43] <magespawn> so maybe he was a politician or something
[11:43] <Kilos> yeah they make stacks but still steal more
[11:43] <magespawn> yup they all play with other peoples money
[11:44] <Kilos> wonder if that new guy will come back
[11:46] <magespawn> jhb_hack?
[11:46] <Kilos> ya
[11:46] <magespawn> he? seemed quite keen
[11:46] <Kilos> yeah
[11:46] <Kilos> but young i think
[11:51] <magespawn> that is all relative
[11:57] <Kilos> lol
[12:05] <magespawn> looks like i have to restart again
[12:05] <magespawn> brb
[12:08] <Kilos> sjoe
[12:14] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[12:14] <magespawn> ja this machine has not been online for some time
[12:15] <Kilos> upgrade reboots?
[12:15] <magespawn> yup
[12:15] <Kilos> hey try aptitude upgrade and see the extras that apt-get doesnt do
[12:16] <Kilos> apt-get dont do the linux stuff
[12:16] <magespawn> i have it set to do automatic updates
[12:16] <Kilos> ah
[12:18] <Kilos> i kill those because they always wanna upgrade when data min
[12:18] <magespawn> uncapped adsl
[12:18] <Kilos> hehe
[12:19] <charl> Kilos: i'm good thanks
[12:19] <charl> sorry for slow response, went home and had lunch in the meantime :)
[12:19] <Kilos> only slow
[12:19] <Kilos> hehe
[12:20] <Kilos> put it down to work pressure
[12:26] <Kilos> cool charl 
[12:26] <Kilos> eating is good
[13:15] <magespawn> looking into rooting my htc flyer
[13:32] <magespawn> what kind of website does not allow numbers or special characters
[13:32] <magespawn> ?
[13:36] <Kilos> what you doing
[13:39] <charl> hi magespawn 
[13:53] <magespawn> hi charl
[13:53] <magespawn> looking into rooting the htc flyer
[14:03] <Kilos> reboot time
[14:30] <charl> wb Kilos 
[14:33] <Kilos> ty charl 
[14:33] <Kilos> nearly hometime for non sysadmin guys
[14:35] <charl> heh i'm already home :) took the afternoon off
[14:35] <Kilos> haha
[14:35] <charl> i actually just had a repairman at my apartment becuase the rain pipe on my balcony broke
[14:36] <charl> it's fixed now
[14:36] <Kilos> how can a rain pipe break?
[14:37] <charl> the fittings that keep it fixed to the wall broke off
[14:37] <charl> we had a huge storm a week ago
[14:37] <charl> the pipe itself is fine
[14:37] <Kilos> on their own or with a little help?
[14:37] <Kilos> or gutter full of leaves
[14:38] <charl> it's on a separate balcony that is on the third floor
[14:38] <charl> nobody can come to it except through my apartment and i had no guests over
[14:38] <charl> so it must have broke on its own
[14:38] <charl> the wind was insane
[14:38] <Kilos> haha
[14:38] <charl> no idea about leaves but i don't think that had anything to do with it because the fittings are outside the physical pipe
[14:39] <charl> so even if the pipe was blocked they shouldn't have broken
[14:39] <Kilos> weight normally
[14:39] <charl> who knows but the pipe is defnitely not blocked
[14:39] <Kilos> weird that brackets break off on their own
[14:39] <charl> the pipe was rather light when i tied it back into place as a temporary measure
[14:39] <charl> with a piece of string lol
[14:39] <Kilos> lol
[14:39] <charl> no idea
[14:40] <charl> maybe they were old, i think this building was built in the 60s
[14:40] <Kilos> ah
[14:40] <charl> but i have no idea about the durability
[14:40] <charl> it's looking beautiful now though after the repairman put new fittings on
[14:46] <nlsthzn> http://www.core77.com/blog/sketchnotes/a_better_way_to_do_drawing_callouts_25311.asp#more
[15:14]  * Kilos wonders how our fly is
[15:25] <magespawn> he is away Kilos
[15:25] <Kilos> oh away not ill
[15:28] <magespawn> i think he said he was sick, last night sometime, maybe that is the reason why he is away
[15:28] <magespawn> lol @ nlsthzn
[15:28] <Kilos> ya man thats why i wonder how he is
[15:28] <nlsthzn> :)
[15:54] <magespawn> later all home time
[16:46] <Kilos> hi superfly how are you?
[17:08] <superfly> meh.
[17:15] <Kilos> sorry
[17:19] <Kilos> gooooosie!!!!
[19:19] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight