[00:00] <hadifarnoud> I can't ping gateway usr13. nor can I ping any other ip like 8.8.8.8
[00:01] <usr13> hadifarnoud: You'll just have to re-read and check your work.
[00:01] <usr13> hadifarnoud: (If you can't ping the gateway, you certainly won't go any further.)
[00:01] <hadifarnoud> usr13: let me know if you need any of those conf files. I do connect to it. after that it must be iptables job. right?
[00:03] <Sk1Special> working now.. idk. done playing for today.. tommorow will be the startup hang time , and desktop cube.
[00:03] <daftykins> Sk1Special: ;)
[00:03] <daftykins> Sk1Special: enjoy!
[00:03] <Sk1Special> t/y for all the help daftykins , and wilee and whoever else :]
[00:03] <daftykins> np mate
[00:03] <daftykins> glad to.
[00:07] <hadifarnoud> usr13: when I do iptables -L |grep 192.168.1.0  I see nothing. weird?
[00:08] <hadifarnoud> I think my server does have ufw enabled. if that makes any difference usr13
[00:09] <daftykins> hadifarnoud: it won't break networking. can you ping your own IP? does 'route -n' show a default gateway?
[00:09] <hadifarnoud> daftykins: from my laptop or on server?
[00:10] <daftykins> whichever system couldn't ping the gateway IP
[00:10] <hadifarnoud> no I can't ping gateway from my laptop
[00:10] <hadifarnoud> I setup L2TP vpn on my server
[00:10] <hadifarnoud> it connects but no internet
[00:12] <daftykins> hadifarnoud: ok i gotta go, sorry
 McDeffice: what are you doing when you get that message? with <trism> McDeffice: sudo apt-get build-dep kvirc; is the command
[00:14] <nisio> does anybody know how to change the prioity of elements in the desktop enviroment selector at login
[00:14] <trism> McDeffice: yeah you need the source repositories enabled for that command
[00:17] <McDeffice> trism -> is fixed, i have remove APT::Default-Release "stable"; in /etc/apt/apt.conf
[00:23] <trism> McDeffice: strange
[00:26] <McDeffice> trism -> sudo apt-get build-dep is now done. now i run make clean, make,make install for try
[00:29] <trism> McDeffice: hope it goes well
[00:29] <ubuntivity> "This channel is logged", what exactly does that mean?
[00:29] <Pici> !1984
[00:30] <Wulframn> ubuntivity: the channel is logged and a copy is stored for public reference.
[00:30] <ubuntivity> Thanks Pici, but why that factoid is entitled 1984?!
[00:31] <Pici> ubuntivity: for giggles. (its an alias to !logs)
[00:31] <ubuntivity> I know this might be stupid, But what is special about 1984?
[00:32] <Pici> ubuntivity: Its a book. By George Orwell.
[00:32] <ubuntivity> Ahh.. A tech book I assume?
[00:32] <Wulframn> ubuntivity: it's a book concerned with government control, life in a police state in which everything is known about everyone.
[00:32] <saschagehlich> hey, where do i get the source for this kernel build? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.10.5-saucy/
[00:32] <McDeffice> trism -> i have same problem QSound : No such file or directory .  so in make i have see " #warning QFtp doesn't exists anymore in Qt5, port this class or drop it [-Wcpp]" etc in tk i need qt4
[00:33] <ubuntivity> Wow that's a nice paranoid fact. Thanks Wulframn
[00:33] <Wulframn> ubuntivity: It would behoove you to read it. Especially considering all the current events going on. =P
[00:33] <derrik> is that really paranoid fact after snowden?
[00:34] <ubuntivity> Wulframn: I'd prefer to watch a movie of it, if possible!
[00:34] <Wulframn> ubuntivity: No. Read the book. It is better for you and the book is much, much better.
[00:34] <ubuntivity> derrik: paranoia=being safe, that's my definition. I'M PARANOID :)
[00:34] <derrik> gratz :)
[00:35] <ubuntivity> Wulframn: I'll try to, probably if I get a plain text copy of it and 'less' it in my console! :P
[00:36] <trism> McDeffice: do you have libqt4-dev? that is where QSound seems to be, though looking at the kvirc package it should have pulled that in with build-dep
[00:36] <trism> McDeffice: which ubuntu version is this?
[00:37] <saschagehlich> hey, where do i get the source for this kernel build? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.10.5-saucy/
[00:37]  * ubuntivity didn't run this instance inside tmux, so he'll have to leave in order to check an ongoing download :/
[00:38]  * ubuntivity uses weechat btw
[00:38] <derrik> any good linux books?
[00:38] <derrik> or video tutorials
[00:39] <derrik> intermediate / advanced level
[00:39] <trism> saschagehlich: should just be the vanilla upstream kernel for 3.10.5 I think, from kernel.org
[00:39] <rreed> derrik, eli the computer guy has some really good videos up; http://www.youtube.com/user/elithecomputerguy
[00:40] <derrik> i watched his linux videos already
[00:40] <derrik> they were nice indeed
[00:40] <saschagehlich> trism, k, thx - so i could just fetch the linux source from github, apply the 3 patches and compile it?
[00:41] <trism> saschagehlich: if you want a patched upstream kernel, sure
[00:41] <McDeffice> trism -> Description:    Ubuntu 13.04 raring, libqt4-dev already installed. I think build-depinstall for kvirc stable in depot. and me i try compiling the source from svn (last version from kvirc website)
[00:42] <derrik> id like to learn more about how to troubleshoot in general, installing and removing drivers/modules etc.
[00:43] <derrik> any good books about those things?
[00:46] <syntroPi> OMG the new FireFox 23 actually does subpixel rendering order correctly: AWESOME   (this is first FF which ever does that)
[00:48] <trism> McDeffice: hmm, when I just ran cmake it detected qt5 instead of 4, maybe you have 5 installed as well? I notice QSound is also in qtmultimedia5-dev, but I'm not that far in the build yet
[00:50] <McDeffice> trism -> the package qtmultimedia5-dev is not installed on my box. in process
[00:51] <McDeffice> trism -> qtmultimedia5-dev installed. same error with make installe (without make clean ; make)
[00:53] <czarzhan> join #drupal-florida
[00:54] <czarzhan> #drupal-florida
[00:55] <Wulframn> Florida is too damned hot.
[00:55] <Shadowandlight> how can i shrink down the size of my ubuntu HD?  I have a 50gig harddrive setup in Oracle VM but I am only using 11.8g... I would like to reduce the partition size to 20gb instead of 50
[00:57] <jrib> Shadowandlight: isn't the hard drive dynamic (i.e. I think it doesn't take up 50GB unless you are using 50GB)
[00:57] <McDeffice> trism -> in CMakeLists.txt file i have one line with : option(WANT_QT4 "Whether to prefer Qt4 over Qt5" OFF) <== replace OFF to ON ?
[00:57] <Shadowandlight> umm its showing total availible total 50gb / availible 35.1gb
[00:57] <Shadowandlight> the reason i want to shrink it down is i want to upload this server to a VPS host
[00:58] <Shadowandlight> and they charge based on HD size etc
[01:00] <trism> McDeffice: yeah you might want to force qt4
[01:01] <McDeffice> trism -> edit file, after make clean, make, make install. or i need type an command for clean the cmake ?
[01:04] <trollwork> Howdy, need some help with postfix.  Someone here didn't like the postfix log files, so they symlinked them to /dev/null in /var/log/mail.err & .log.  I've since deleted those symlinks, but the files are not repopulating.
[01:04] <trollwork> how can I turn this back on?
[01:08] <zeronezerone> can anybody please point in in the right direction to finding information regarding what my desired network topology would be in my particular situation (wanting to cluster 3 local ubuntu linux servers, using one as the storage device/reverse proxy, likely)
[01:09] <trollwork> zeronezerone, what do you mean?
[01:09] <zeronezerone> well i am looking for maybe some further reading or a channel with people experienced in maybe clustering or networking ubuntu servers
[01:09] <trollwork> zeronezerone, that's still pretty vague I'm afraid
[01:10] <trollwork> essentially it's no more than a nicely worded "How to network in ubuntu"
[01:10] <trollwork> Is this a local network in your home?
[01:10] <zeronezerone> yes
[01:10] <trollwork> if so your topology should be "plug them into your switch"
[01:10] <zeronezerone> well i want wondering things such as desired software for my situation and if cross over wiring is at all neccesary
[01:11] <trollwork> once again depends on what you're doing precisely
[01:11] <zeronezerone> well if you are okay with me elaborating i will do so
[01:11] <zeronezerone> i have three machines
[01:11] <nevyn> cross over wiring should never be nessicary any more.
[01:11] <nevyn> EVER.
[01:12] <nevyn> trancerviers should be smart enough on even the cheapest network cards to just sort that out for you
[01:13] <trollwork> zeronezerone, you have 3 machines
[01:13] <trism> McDeffice: think I figured it out, in your shell: export QT_SELECT=qt4; then rerun cmake with -DWANT_QT4=ON
[01:13] <zeronezerone> i would like to use one to do all the storage. and because this is on a NAT i figured that i could have the other two machines load balance requests pulling information such as website data from the central machine
[01:13] <zeronezerone> iscsi vs nfs
[01:14] <zeronezerone> in this particular situation, would NFS suffice or is ISCSI just as suitable in this situation
[01:14] <trism> McDeffice: don't know if that will compile any better for you, but it at least seems to force qt4 over qt5
[01:15]  * alfacard is backkk
[01:15] <alfacard> hycarus hycarus hycarus hycarus !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:16] <alfacard> mmercer mmercer mmercer mmercer mmercer mmercer mmercer mmercer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:17] <alfacard> ubuntivity ubuntivity ubuntivity ubuntivity ubuntivity ubuntivity ubuntivity ubuntivity !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:17] <ubuntivity> aflacard ???
[01:18] <McDeffice> trism -> now i have this error : The use of Qt4 has been forced, but no Qt4 found on the system. wich package i need for install qt4 ?
[01:18] <ubuntivity> is there a guy here names "alfacard"?
[01:18] <trism> McDeffice: what do you get when you run: qmake -qt=qt4; in the terminal?
[01:19] <trism> McDeffice: did you export the QT_SELECT=qt4 variable first?
[01:19] <trism> McDeffice: err should add a -v after that qmake command
[01:21] <dmarques> I've managed to wreck my 12.04 system Python in the process of installing a variety of packages for a tutorial and then attempting to undo my actions.  I'm wondering if someone might recommend some course of action that could get me back to the distribution state for Python without the need for a whole reinstall?
[01:21] <McDeffice> trism ->  export QT_SELECT=qt4; cmake -DWANT_QT4=ON CMakeLists.txt <<--- retur that :http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-129630
[01:21] <t0ke> In Ubuntu 12.04, with the unity icons at the top set to ['all'] (i had to do this because pidgin wouldn't show otherwise), there is a white box. How do I find out which program is displaying this white box?
[01:22] <ubuntivity> dmarques: I'm not sure, but would removing the packages and re-installing them from the original CD/DVD work?
[01:22] <c^^c^^> t0ke: install gnome and call it a day
[01:22] <t0ke> 'sudo apt-get install gnome'?
[01:22] <c^^c^^> gnome-session-fallback
[01:22] <t0ke> Cause yeah tbh, unity has caused me too many problems lately
[01:22] <ubuntivity> Wouldn't gnome be already available, c^^c^^ ?
[01:23] <c^^c^^> nope
[01:23] <dmarques> ubuntivity: I imagine that is certainly an option but there are so many package dependencies on it, I'm not sure how that should be executed.
[01:23] <ubuntivity> I think you can simply log in with gnome from the user choosing interface..
[01:23] <c^^c^^> yeah after you install it
[01:23] <ubuntivity> I never installed it here, it is simply there O.o
[01:23] <c^^c^^> lol
[01:24] <c^^c^^> ubuntu comes packaged with unity not gnome
[01:24] <xangua> !nounity | t0ke ubuntivity c^^c^^
[01:25] <c^^c^^>  from 12.10 an up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package
[01:25] <c^^c^^> I always use gnome-session-fallback
[01:25] <c^^c^^> what's the difference between packages
[01:25] <ubuntivity> I can simply use the white Ubuntu logo next to my name to choose which desktop I want to log in
[01:25] <t0ke> So for 12.04, do I need to install gnome-shell or gnome-session-fallback?
[01:25] <c^^c^^> is ubuntu-gnome-desktop 3+?
[01:26] <trism> McDeffice: that is a weird error, it found qt4 but then died, I didn't get that
[01:26] <ubuntivity> I admit I have Ubuntu Tweak installed, but I didn't install any gnome package.
[01:26] <c^^c^^> then the force is with you
[01:27] <ubuntivity> t0ke: before you log in into your user account, is there a small ubuntu logo to the right of your name?
[01:27] <c^^c^^> t0ke just type sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[01:27] <c^^c^^> then log out
[01:27] <c^^c^^> and change interfaces disregard what he said
[01:27] <t0ke> ubuntivity: yes there is
[01:27] <ubuntivity> t0ke: when you click on it, do you have a 'gnome' choice?
[01:28] <xangua> and this is what happend when no one takes a minute to read the factoid
[01:28] <Kerim> Hello guys, I got a sony vaio vpcse1e1e/s and I want to install on it but ACPI-features do not seem to work correctly on it (a.k.a. it gets really hot and fans don't kick in), which made it impossible to seriously work with Ubuntu on it. After many months of frustration, I want to ask you whether you guys got an idea perhaps...
[01:28] <t0ke> ubuntivity: Nope, just ubuntu and ubuntu 2d
[01:28] <ubuntivity> OK then, follow c^^c^^ notes :)
[01:28] <Kerim> Oh and btw, using acpi -t doesn't work, which is probably related to the overheating problem.
[01:29] <t0ke> Okay, thanks
[01:29] <whoever> karakedi: did you install laptop_toolz
[01:29] <trism> McDeffice: did you set QTDIR? that might be the problem, would try to unset that first
[01:29] <whoever> karakedi: that usually fixes things
[01:30] <ubuntivity> Kerim: is your laptop's fan clean? I have a friend who had a VAIO who experienced various problems because of problems in the fan. And I'm supposing you live in a hot area..
[01:31] <whoever> Kerim: did you install laptop_toolz it usualyy fixes things
[01:31] <McDeffice> trism -> i have now an another error : set_target_properties Can not find target to add properties to: kviperlcore  :-/
[01:31] <Kerim> ubuntivity: Yes, it's clean. It idles between 30-45 degrees celsius in Windows 7 but gets much higher in Ubuntu. When I run Ubuntu for a while and wait for it to get really hot and switch to Windows 7, the fan immediately kicks in roaring like hell to cool it off
[01:32] <ubuntivity> Kerim: what is your processor?
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> Kerim, Did you install lm-sensors so you can see the actual temps?
[01:32] <Kerim> ubuntivity: It's a sony vaio vpcse1e1e/s with Sandy Bridge i5
[01:33] <ubuntivity> Kerim: Maybe your processor is set to 'maximum performance' instead of 'on demand'. Try installing "CPU Frequency Scaling Indicator" so you can change that if needed.
[01:33] <Kerim> wilee-nilee: I'm not sure about lm-sensors but acpi -t can't display the temperatures, it just flashes the screen and goes "Killed."
[01:33] <trism> McDeffice: hmm, I'm not sure what that means, how far along is that in the build? I might not have hit it yet, I'm at about 63%
[01:34] <whoever> Kerim: i have a sandy bridge and i installed laptop_toolz
[01:34] <McDeffice> yes te make is very slow
[01:34] <Kerim> whoever: Alrights. Is it in the repos?
[01:34] <whoever> Kerim: yes
[01:35] <Kerim> It's a great laptop but the inability to run Ubuntu (or any kind of Linux for that matter) just bums me out big time :/
[01:35] <whoever> Kerim: i had a shutdown issue  just google labtop shutt down instead of reastart , its a script
[01:36] <whoever> Kerim: min would  reboot instead of shutdown
[01:37] <Kerim> whoever: I've read about people having that problem, though that's not the case with me. Everything seems to work fine, even brightness control via FN keys, but yeah overheating
[01:37] <Kerim> I'm actually suspecting an unfixable problem. Like some motherboard crap Sony pulled
[01:38] <lesocratic> ;)
[01:39] <osirisx11> hi all
[01:39] <TheMiner> Hola
[01:40] <osirisx11> i imagine this is a FAQ so excuse me, but i've googled quite a bit.. i have an nvidia geforce gt 650m and would appreciate help getting it working with ubuntu 13 - this is an optimus chip
[01:40] <osirisx11> i don't want to use bumblebee optirun prefix on everything
[01:41] <TheMiner> nVIDIA is quite nice at producing usable drivers
[01:41] <Kerim> whoever: there seem to be no laptop_toolz in the repo and given the name of the package I doubt I'll find it using google
[01:41] <Kerim> whoever: do you have a link , perhaps?
[01:42] <osirisx11> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/laptop-mode-tools
[01:43] <Kerim> osirisx11: thanks
[01:43] <osirisx11> actually that might not be it, sorry
[01:46] <osirisx11> "┬ĀNvidia doesn't support optimus drivers for Ubuntu/Linux yet" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AsusZenbookPrime - is this still true?
[01:46] <TheMiner> there are work arounds
[01:46] <osirisx11> i need multiple monitor support to hdmi
[01:46] <osirisx11> and it is not working, so i thought it was a driver issue
[01:47] <TheMiner> quite probably, horrible question but are you using the latest drivers available?
[01:47] <osirisx11> latest driver of what?
[01:48] <osirisx11> should i use the open source or proprietary?
[01:48] <TheMiner> http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/install-nvidia-geforce-driver-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04-using-ppa/
[01:48] <TheMiner> going to need to go the ppa route
[01:48] <osirisx11> it is ubuntu 13
[01:48] <TheMiner> yeah
[01:48] <osirisx11> that is from last year.
[01:48] <TheMiner> http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/install-nvidia-geforce-driver-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04-using-ppa/
[01:48] <TheMiner> There is the link
[01:48] <osirisx11> pasting it again doesn't make it relevant
[01:48] <TheMiner> Has clear instructions for 13.04 users
[01:48] <TheMiner> Yes it does
[01:48] <TheMiner> If you read it
[01:49] <osirisx11> lol, thanks
[01:49] <TheMiner> Click on link, follow directions
[01:49] <osirisx11> they should update the url!
[01:50] <osirisx11> my model is listed on that page, that is promising
[01:51] <TheMiner> ;)
[01:51] <wesam> hey guys I have a question
[01:51] <TheMiner> You get it easy, should sit in my shoes updating drivers for FreeBSD 9.2
[01:51] <Brans> help setting up samba as a PDF I'm running ubuntu 12.04 x64 lts
[01:52] <wesam> I'm using xubuntu 12.10. How do I upgrade without losing all my files?
[01:52] <TheMiner> Samba is a service, PDF is a file type. Do not usnderstand your question
[01:52] <TheMiner> You want to kernel upgrade?
[01:52] <wesam> I want to upgrade to 13.04
[01:52] <Brans> sorry samba the service trying to run it as a  pdc...
[01:53] <Shadowandlight> how can i shrink down the size of my ubuntu HD?  I have a 50gig harddrive setup in Oracle VM but I am only using 11.8g... I would like to reduce the partition size to 20gb instead of 50.... the reason i want to shrink it down is i want to upload this server to a VPS host and they charge for HD space (obviously)
[01:53] <TheMiner> wesam, sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[01:53] <McDeffice> trism ->  good news : kvirc/src [ ./kvirc/kvirc -v -> KVIrc 4.3.1 'Aria' Sources date: 20120701 Build date: 2013-08-07 01:35:43 UTC ;-)
[01:53] <TheMiner> after reboot sudo do-release-upgrade
[01:53] <wesam> Thanks
[01:53] <TheMiner> Should be good to go
[01:53] <TheMiner> Nothing lost
[01:54] <trism> McDeffice: excellent
[01:57] <McDeffice> trism ->  Very thank you, you are very excellent and cool :)
[01:57] <Brans> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5957273/
[01:57] <trism> McDeffice: you're welcome
[01:57] <Brans> I have posted my smb.conf
[01:58] <Brans> trying to have a samba pdc going
[01:59] <Brans> any help would be appreciated!
[01:59] <kriskropd> really... NetSplit, thank you.. thank you for that-... thank you so much
[01:59] <kriskropd> <_<
[02:00] <wesam> I'm sorry, my computer keeps crashing...
[02:00] <wesam> How do I update again?
[02:00] <TheMiner> wesam, sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[02:00] <TheMiner> after reboot sudo do-release-upgrade
[02:00] <Brans> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5957273/
[02:01] <wesam> Thanks. I'm trying to code Java using eclipse. Can I do that with only 1gig memory
[02:01] <TheMiner> yes
[02:01] <TheMiner> could likely do it with 128meg
[02:01] <Brans> any know how to use samba as a pdc?
[02:01] <wesam> I keep having to restart my laptop after I start the program..
[02:01] <TheMiner> have much experience with java?
[02:01] <TheMiner> logs?
[02:02] <TheMiner> Why is it restarting your machine?
[02:03] <wesam> I have to restart it, my computer keeps going too slow to be useable..
[02:03] <wesam> I'm also using Google chrome.
[02:04] <kriskropd> from before "wesam: you could open a terminal and run 'sudo do-release-upgrade', but you are never guranteed anything when it comes to files, so make sure you backup your most precious files first - thouhg in all likeliness, the stuff you are likely to lose in an upgrade include specific configuration files and applications you may be accustomed to"
[02:04] <wesam> Thanks kriskropd.
[02:04] <kriskropd> wesam: regardign 12.10 to 13.04
[02:04] <wesam> It'd updating, thanks.
[02:04] <wesam> It's*
[02:05] <kriskropd> wesam: it takes it's precious time and might ask you a few questions, so check up on it every once in awhile :)
[02:05] <Brans> any know how to configure samba as a pdc?
[02:06] <TheMiner> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Eu39MzHoFc
[02:06] <TheMiner> step by step
[02:06] <wesam> I understand. TheMiner, is that for me?
[02:06] <TheMiner> No
[02:06] <TheMiner> That is for Brans
[02:06] <histo> !who | TheMiner
[02:06] <wesam> Okay. Do you know why i keep getting crashed
[02:06] <Brans> thanks TheMiner
[02:06] <TheMiner> Wesam, not without logs
[02:07] <wesam> TheMiner: Where could I find the logs?
[02:07] <wesam> TheMiner: I haven't used Linux for a while
[02:07] <histo> !upgrade | wesam
[02:08] <wesam> Thanks everyone, it is updating. But, could someone help me getting my computer to stop crashing?
[02:08] <kriskropd> wesam: most logs are contained in /var/log, but you will get to a specific log quicker if you know when (timestamp of occurence) and which application might be causing the problem)
[02:09] <wesam> well it happens constantly.
[02:09] <kriskropd> wesam: in that case it coule be anything from a buggy script in your cron job to a bad graphics display driver :x
[02:10] <wesam> kriskrpod: It may be Google Chrome because I haven't opened it yet and it's running fine. Maybe it was Eclipse?
[02:11] <wesam> No, it was google chrome
[02:12] <histo> wesam: any reason you are using chrome instead of chromium?
[02:12] <kriskropd> wesam: you could keep an eye on the machine perforamnce and maybe get an idea of what is eating your performance - I forget what the default system monitor in ubuntu desktop is though, so I will have to suggest using 'top' or 'htop' in a terminal
[02:12] <kriskropd> performance*
[02:12] <wesam> histo: I forgot that chromium came with it.
[02:13] <wesam> How can I uninstall google chrome? Isn't the package called google-chrome?
[02:13] <wesam> Because it isn't working.
[02:15] <hays> is ddrestore not in the repos?
[02:16] <hays> doh ddrescue
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> wesam, This is a google chrome laptop?
[02:16] <wesam> No, xubuntu..
[02:17] <holstein> wesam: what hardware
[02:17] <Guest98725> i forgot how to download from someone :( its been that long
[02:17] <wesam> laptop.
[02:18] <holstein> wesam: did you download the .deb for google-chrome? you should find it in the package manager of your choice.. i like synaptic
[02:18] <Guest98725> what commands do i use to search someones files?
[02:18] <holstein> Guest98725: who's files?
[02:20] <lus-angel-leko> ._.
[02:20] <lus-angel-leko> .__.
[02:20] <lus-angel-leko> ._____.
[02:21] <peter-griffin> nm u
[02:21] <lus-angel-leko> ._. hola
[02:21] <lus-angel-leko> .__. como funciona esto
[02:21] <lus-angel-leko> ._____.
[02:21] <lus-angel-leko> como diablos entre aqui
[02:22] <xmetal> brb .. looking for good deal on DVD+r or -R's .... missed a really good sale on newegg
[02:22] <TheLordOfTime> is there a way to clear swap usage?
[02:22] <tertl3> hello
[02:23] <tertl3> my nvidia no worky
[02:23] <holstein> !nvidia | tertl3
[02:24] <tertl3> keeps saying to run nvidia-aconfig and I run it and it says new config file written but then I reboot and it says same thing again forever
[02:24] <holstein> tertl3: feel free and elaborate.. the graphics should do something out of the box.. if not, then maybe the hardware is broken
[02:24] <holstein> tertl3: what says what?
[02:24] <tertl3> nvidia-settings
[02:25] <holstein> tertl3: you'll create the xorg.conf with the tool, then put it in place
[02:26] <holstein> tertl3: put it in place manually
[02:26] <holstein> tertl3: still, it should be "worky"
[02:27] <tertl3> i never had to do that before
[02:27] <holstein> tertl3: do what?
[02:27] <tertl3> move it manually
[02:27] <holstein> tertl3: i have never had it automatically work
[02:27] <xmetal> RiData's for 15.99
[02:27] <holstein> tertl3: thoser are not our tools
[02:27] <xmetal> hmm
[02:27] <holstein> those*
[02:27] <holstein> tertl3: try putting it in place manually
[02:28] <tertl3> where does it go exactly?
[02:28] <holstein> tertl3: /etc/X11/xorg.cong
[02:28] <holstein> tertl3: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:28] <tertl3> ok, I will try
[02:29] <tertl3> im just testing the state of valve games on linux....i've seen videos but I wanna see how it wokrs on my dodgy setup
[02:31] <holstein> !steam | tertl3
[02:32] <whoever> Kerim: are you still here
[02:32] <holstein> whoever: you can ask the channel anything.. and a volunteer may assist you
[02:32] <Kerim> whoever: Yes.
[02:33] <Kerim> whoever: Just installed Ubuntu on laptop again, but was going to go to bed and fiddle around with it tomorrow.
[02:35] <whoever> Kerim: is it running hot
[02:36] <pawan> hi
[02:36] <pawan> my xserver-xorg broke
[02:36] <Kerim> whoever: Yeah
[02:36] <pawan> how to rebuild
[02:36] <whoever> Kerim: what version 12.10,13.04
[02:36] <holstein> whoever: oppologies.. i had your nick confused
[02:36] <xmetal> anyone here use Ritek media?
[02:36] <Kerim> whoever: 13.04
[02:36] <xmetal> (just curious)
[02:36] <whoever> holstein: its ok
[02:37] <Kerim> whoever: Had Lubuntu on a stick, tried with that first but same problem. Worse even, the laptop crashes when using acpi -t showing some error messages I couldn't be bothered to read. WIll probably try again tomorrow
[02:38] <Kerim> and see if it contains any valuable information
[02:38] <Kerim> Am really tired now lol
[02:38] <Kerim> it's 4:40 am over here
[02:38] <pawan> hi
[02:38] <whoever> Kerim: laptop-mod-tools
[02:39] <Kerim> whoever: Alright. Will look into it, thanks.
[02:39] <whoever> Kerim: ok
[02:40] <whoever> Kerim: try it with out acpi and see if it works,
[02:41] <Kerim> whoever: WIll do.
[02:41] <Kerim> Thx
[02:41] <pawan> my xserver-xorg broke
[02:41] <johnflux> Hi all.  I'm trying to usb mount my samsung galaxy s2 phone.  But it seems that I need a kernel with CONFIG_USB_DEVICE_CLASS  set
[02:41] <pawan> how to rebuild
[02:42] <johnflux> Which the default ubuntu kernel does NOT set
[02:44] <sjd_zeus> .
[02:44] <osirisx11> i installed the PPA, updated, installed what it said, rebooted, got to some kind of black screen with just the text @^ and it repeatedly added @^ every 30 seconds
[02:44] <holstein> osirisx11: ppa's are not officially supported
[02:44] <holstein> !ppapurge
[02:44] <osirisx11> then i rebooted again, and graphics worked, but nvidia console said it wasnt installed
[02:45] <osirisx11> holstein: i am trying to get nvidia geforce 650m (optimus) drivers to work
[02:45] <holstein> osirisx11: i wouldnt worry about what things "say" if its working
[02:45] <osirisx11> someone in here suggested to use a PPA from ubuntu-x
[02:45] <osirisx11> well the issue is i am not getting any output from my laptop to HDMI out
[02:45] <holstein> osirisx11: use it if you want.. but support for them are found with the ppa maintainers
[02:46] <osirisx11> the open source standard ubuntu monitors applet doesn't detect it, and i can't get the proprietary driver to install
[02:46] <osirisx11> okay well holstein, the wiki page for ubuntu says hdmi should work out of the box for my device, zenbook prime
[02:47] <osirisx11> and it wasn't, that's why  i was seeking the proprietary solution
[02:47] <osirisx11> i'd certainly welcome any suggestions!
[02:47] <osirisx11> i have a beautiful 27in IPS/PLS screen here begging to see action
[02:47] <holstein> osirisx11: i would purge the PPA, and elaborate on why you cant install the drivers that you are reading about in the wiki page that support the HDMI output
[02:48] <holstein> osirisx11: it may not be supported. the HDMI out
[02:48] <osirisx11> holstein: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AsusZenbookPrime#HDMI
[02:49] <holstein> !nvidia | osirisx11 this is what i refer to
[02:50] <osirisx11> holstein:  thanks for that link, it has some good info in there..somewhere..
[02:50] <luis-angel-leko> ._.
[02:50] <osirisx11> hm last i heard there was a bug with nvidia optimus drivers
[02:51] <osirisx11> http://askubuntu.com/questions/215016/unity-doesnt-appear-after-installing-nvidia-drivers
[02:52] <whoever> Kerim: also is the laptop hot to the touch, what do the sensors say
[02:56] <anonee> hello ubuntu! I'm trying to install the pulseaudio equalizer as in this tut, http://www.webupd8.org/2013/03/install-pulseaudio-with-built-in-system.html but when I $ pulseaudio & I get: aamer@ubesktop:~$ E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
[02:56] <anonee> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[02:58] <affine> hi everyone! I'm trying to shut down x server to install an nvidia driver, but I can't seem to do it properly. I've tried 'service lightdm stop' but that just takes me to a black screen where all I can do is ctrl+alt+delete to get out of.
[02:58] <affine> (which effectively restarts my computer)
[02:59] <anonee> so I tried pulseaudio -k & instead, so I got no errors, but then when I try
[02:59] <anonee> $ pactl load-module module-equalizer-sink
[02:59] <anonee> I get
[02:59] <anonee> Failure: Module initalization failed
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> affine, You will want to contact the PPA's maintainers, technically PPA's are not supported here.
[03:00] <affine> wilee-nilee, PPA?
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> affine, read the link
[03:00] <IdleOne> wilee-nilee: wrong a person, you meant anonee
[03:00] <chiques> What services/tutorials are recommended to test the security of my Ubuntu server?
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> affine, Sorry about that my bad. ;)
[03:01] <affine> wilee-nilee, What are you talking about? What link?
[03:01] <IdleOne> affine: he sent that message to you mistakenly
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> affine, I use your nick mistakenly.
[03:01] <affine> oh ok
[03:02] <anonee> wilee-nilee thank you
[03:02] <affine> btw I must say ubuntu has dramatically improved since 8.04 (which was the last version I had ever installed)
[03:02] <affine> DRAMATICALLY
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> anonee, I did try that equalizer and found it not really effective myself.
[03:03] <syntroPi> affine you just can install "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current" and then restart x with "sudo service lightdm restart"
[03:03] <affine> and now with steam coming to ubuntu, and many games being ported in lieu of humble bundle, things are looking great
[03:03] <affine> syntroPi, really?
[03:03] <syntroPi> sure
[03:03] <affine> syntroPi, does 14.03 ship with the latest?
[03:03] <derrik> is there any clear and simple command or something that shows what driver/module doesnt work?
[03:03] <syntroPi> ooh i dont know that
[03:04] <syntroPi> affine i thought you were on latest release
[03:04] <jexmex> I have 2 updates in my update manager that will not go away
[03:04] <Runemoro> Hello, how can I check TCP packets to make sure they're not spoofed? Someone keeps sending me a packet with the source IP localhost and the server keeps looping with bad request packets...
[03:04] <jexmex> I can not select them to update but they will not disappear
[03:04] <jexmex> how can I get rid of them?
[03:05] <affine> jexmex, which updates are they?
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> jexmex, are you seeing partial update?
[03:05] <affine> I probably can't help you but that would be useful info to know :)
[03:06] <jexmex> X.Org X server - VIA display driver and X.Org X server - QXL display driver
[03:06] <daftykins> Runemoro: sniff with wireshark
[03:07] <jexmex> wilee-nilee, what do you mean by partial updates?
[03:07] <Runemoro> daftykins: Thank you, I'll try that
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> jexmex, Sometimes you will see a partial upgrade, you don't want to run it till the dependencies are added. if you do you can have problems, did you run a partial?
[03:07] <jexmex> wilee-nilee, not sure....
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> jexmex, You will see a partial upgrade notice.
[03:07] <affine> syntroPi, I am.
[03:08] <ripthejacker> Is it possible to use wifi direct with ubuntu?
[03:08] <ripthejacker> !wifi-direct
[03:08] <affine> syntroPi, 13.04 freshly installed as of tonight
[03:08] <jexmex> its under header important security updates
[03:08] <syntroPi> awesome then nvidia are in the repos ofc
[03:08] <jexmex> xserver-xorg-video-openchrome and xserver-xorg-video-qxl
[03:08] <c^^c^^> I'm running ubuntu 12.10 LTS... Does archive manager use AES-256 when compressing .7z (7zip files) I see no mention of what algorithm
[03:08] <syntroPi> affine, also you can do it grafically in software sources last tab restricted drivers
[03:09] <c^^c^^> and how many bits
[03:09] <affine> syntroPi, btw service lightdm restart sends me to that black screen where I can just type random letters. It's not a shell.
[03:09] <ripthejacker> or any way to send files from AP to station?
[03:09] <ripthejacker> using WiFi
[03:09] <affine> syntroPi, I partially want to know how to kill x out of sheer curiosity
[03:10] <syntroPi> affine, how about "kill -KILL Xorg"  LOL carefull
[03:10] <wilee-nilee> jexmex, You can from the terminal run sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and before saying y for yes check if all the updates are included if not hit n
[03:10] <_andyj_> affine, I think you need to look up changing to run level 3, don't just kill X
[03:10] <c^^c^^> does 7z with archive manager encrypt with AES-256??
[03:11] <affine> syntroPi, why is killing x so dangerous?
[03:11] <syntroPi> because it will leave caos
[03:11] <affine> I won't just exit into a shell?
[03:11] <syntroPi> on your X session
[03:11] <affine> the idea is to be able to type 'startx' to start it back up
[03:11] <affine> and the world continues spinning
[03:12] <syntroPi> killing is just terminating program not letting it time to finish properly
[03:12] <syntroPi> so its not a good way to shut it down
[03:12] <affine> How can I let it shut down gracefully then?
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> !reisub
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> affine, ^^^
[03:12] <jexmex> wilee-nilee, trying now seems they are there
[03:13] <affine> wilee-nilee, is this some sort of sick joke?
[03:13] <affine> why is that so complex?
[03:13] <syntroPi> affine when i do such things i always change to tty1 [ctrl][alt][F1] login and then do that "sudo service lightdm" restart from there
[03:13] <affine> syntroPi, haven't tried that yet. I'll give that a whirl.
[03:13] <affine> Thanks.
[03:13] <derrik> is there any similar indicator of faulty driver in linux like the !-symbol in Windows device manager?
[03:13] <syntroPi> which is bit really properly either, but havent caused any problems so far
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> jexmex, Cool, security updates need a dist-upgrade run at times, I alwyas use the terminal and just run that command every time
[03:14] <jexmex> wilee-nilee, thanks
[03:14] <syntroPi> affine, and the Xorg session usually is on tty7
[03:14] <syntroPi> on ubuntu
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> jexmex, Could be as well that the update run pulled in anything missing
[03:14] <xrandr> ello. Is there a way to move the taskbar/launcher bar on the left of the screen to the bottom?
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> xrandr, Used to not now though.
[03:15] <xrandr> :(
[03:15] <xrandr> I like the Unity Desktop environment, but I don't like that
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> affine, Sick joke?
[03:16] <affine> wilee-nilee, that's like some sort of hidden secret thing nobody would ever guess if they forgot
[03:16] <affine> haha
[03:16] <affine> one bit let me try to restart x now
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> affine, there is a sentence to remember it by.
[03:18] <franck_> como se hace para entrar al canal de irc hispano?
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> !es | franck_
[03:18] <daftykins> !es | franck_
[03:18] <daftykins> ooooh milliseconds apart
[03:18] <franck_> ok
[03:22] <affine> ok more problems
[03:23] <affine> so I tried sudo service lightdm restart from ttyl1 and that did not do me much good
[03:23] <affine> it "worked"
[03:23] <affine> but when I started it back up I had no taskbar
[03:23] <Tranter_Hroogeir> Hello everyone, Tranter_Hroogeirrhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[03:23] <daftykins> Tranter_Hroogeir: wow, persistent little fellow
[03:23] <xmetal> oh well ... newegg will not load here so looks like i am going to miss this sale
[03:23] <daftykins> xmetal: aww, change DNS servers maybe
[03:23] <affine> And now I restarted and I still don't have a task/start bar, but I do have a desktop. I had to launch from /usr/bin
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> affine, I noticed you only half ran reisub I would not do that an expect a usable setup.
[03:24] <affine> wilee-nilee, pardon?
[03:24] <affine> I half-ran reisub?
[03:25] <xmetal> well its no big deal .. .will have to wait a bit longer .. was going to order stuff last time but they sold out .. hve to order this within the next 30 minutes to get the deal and the site won't load
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> affine, You said at "one bit let me try to restart x now" I assume that one bit was the reisub command
[03:26] <lawltoad> is there any way to remove the dash/side panel in unity for raring?
[03:26] <affine> wilee-nilee, I went to ttyl1 and tried to restart lightdm
[03:26] <lawltoad> **the solution used to to just run unity2d-panel
[03:26] <affine> 'sudo lightdm restart'
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> affine, Ah okay.
[03:26] <affine> wilee-nilee, when it restarted I was missing a task/startbar.
[03:27] <affine> And now after restarting my computer I'm still missing both.
[03:29] <Guest52608> hello guys and grils just download open indaian last night i was trying to get updates going i need some help
[03:31] <lawltoad> also, my chromium wont play flash in youtube for my main chromium profile, but will if i create a new chromium profile, what gives?
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> Guest52608, This http://openindiana.org/  ? this is ubuntu support, you might try ##linux if you are registered.
[03:33] <affine> brb
[03:35] <Guest52608> have you try to to input  into the command box yet
[03:39] <affine> ok I figured it out by resetting compiz/unity
[03:39] <affine> so strange
[03:39] <affine> bookmarked the page in firefox for future reference...
[03:39] <affine> thanks for the help guys :)
[03:40] <garthk> Miserable. 'apt-get install openjdk-6-jre-headless' hangs indefinitely from a completely fresh precise install. All search results point to a problem with EC2 micro instancesŌĆ” which I'm not using. This is an amd64 instance running under VMware. Any ideas?
[03:41] <garthk> It slams to a halt here:
[03:41] <garthk> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main openjdk-6-jre-headless amd64 6b27-1.12.6-1ubuntu0.12.04.2 [25.4 MB]
[03:41] <garthk> 0% [1 openjdk-6-jre-headless 4,126 B/25.4 MB 0%]^C
[03:43] <syntroPi> garthk, maybe try another repo mirror?
[03:46] <syntroPi> garthk, you even can down it manually http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openjdk-6/openjdk-6-jre-headless_6b27-1.12.6-1ubuntu0.12.04.2_amd64.deb
[03:47] <lgc> Hi, I installed 12.04 on a Gateway laptop and more often than not, while watching videos on VLC, it overheats and turns off. What gives?
[03:48] <syntroPi> lgc mabye try vaapi drivers so it decodes on gpu also you might clean fan openings with a vacuum cleaner from dust?
[03:49] <CarlThansk> I have Apache and vsftpd running on ubuntu 13.04 server. something on ubuntu is blocking HTTP / FTP traffic seemingly randomly (my friend in Australia can't connect sometimes, but usually can, and I can connect while he can't)
[03:49] <garthk> syntroPi: ok, that'd be the problem, then. curl-ing that gives me the same "time left: 44h" problem.
[03:49] <CarlThansk> wut blocking?
[03:49] <lgc> syntroPi: Thanks. How can I install them? Regular apt-get?
[03:50] <garthk> ŌĆ” and, ditto vs ftp.utexas.eduŌĆ” I smell an intercepting proxy.
[03:50] <syntroPi> lgc depends on your gpu and if its capable of that: eg on nvidia the backend is called vdpau, with the other im not too familiar
[03:50] <universal> I purged rar and unrar packages and then reinstall them by dpkg and apt-get both but now when right clicking on any file or folder and compressing it, cbr and rar formats are not showing up in formats tab of compress window....how to fix this ?
[03:51] <lgc> syntroPi: How can I check that?
[03:52] <syntroPi> lgc  "lspci | grep VGA"
[03:55] <CarlThansk> any known issues of seemingly blocking connections from specific IPs while running apache?
[03:55] <lgc> syntroPi: "VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller"
[03:56] <syntroPi> lgc unfortunately im not familiar with that on intel cards, maybe someone else or google may be of better help?
[03:56] <Vog> How found all devices between me and website?
[03:56] <Vog> route?
[03:57] <Vog> devices names Ip and other
[03:57] <Vog> and also hidden devices
[03:57] <syntroPi> lgc the interface is called VAAPI which needs backend from gfx driver to do hw accelerated video codec
[03:57] <CarlThansk> rawr
[03:58] <Vog> How found all devices between me and website?
[03:59] <lgc> syntroPi: There seems to be a libva-intel-vaapi-driver in the repo.
[03:59] <syntroPi> great try it then
[03:59] <CarlThansk> Vog: what do you mean
[04:00] <Vog> i mean how see all devices
[04:00] <derrik> he means same as tracert from windows?
[04:00] <Vog> me <----> devices <----> google.com
[04:00] <jpds> Vog: 'traceroute' command.
[04:00] <CarlThansk> traceroute
[04:01] <Vog> thx
[04:01] <jpds> Vog: Good luck seeing hidden devices.
[04:01] <Vog> any more other hack programs?
[04:01] <jpds> It's not a hack program.
[04:01] <Vog> yes how see hidden device?
[04:01] <jpds> You can't.
[04:01] <jpds> If someone doesn't want you to see something, you probably won't be able to.
[04:02] <Vog> and u can? who can hackers can? need special soft?
[04:02] <jpds> Vog: This is not the channel for that.
[04:02] <Vog> i have ubuntu
[04:03] <jpds> !illegal | Vog
[04:03] <Vog> its all legal
[04:03] <Vog> 4  * * *  5  * * *  6  * * *  7  * * *  8  * * *  9  * * * 10  * * * 11  * * * 12  * * * 13  * * * 14  * * * 15  * * * 16  * * * 17  * * * 18  * * * 19  * * * 20  * * * 21  * * * 22  * * * 23  * * * 24  * * * 25  * * * 26  * * * 27  * * * 28  * * * 29  * * * 30  * * *
[04:03] <Vog> its what?
[04:03] <FloodBot1> Vog: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:04] <babinlonston> what this rule will Do any one will explain this ?
[04:04] <babinlonston> iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
[04:04] <jpds> babinlonston: If a incoming connection is already established, accept it.
[04:04] <Vog> babin u to me?
[04:04] <jpds> Vog: No.
[04:04] <sff> umode +i
[04:04] <babinlonston> Vog: to Who ever know about ip tables share ur idea
[04:05] <CarlThansk> any known issues of seemingly random blocking of connections from specific IPs while running apache?
[04:05] <babinlonston> jpds: oh then if im in ssh in port number 9000 that will be always accepted im i right ? are i want to write a separate Rules for ssh in port number 9000 ?
[04:06] <theBlackJeep77> Vog: check out Backtrace. It's based on ubuntu and has a lot of tools for checking out your network
[04:06] <jpds> babinlonston: That doesn't say anything about ports.
[04:06] <jpds> theBlackJeep77: I don't think it's his network that he's interested in.
[04:06] <Vog> sudo iptables -A INPUT -i wlan0 -j ACCEPT
[04:07] <Vog> what is stars *** *** what is it?
[04:08] <Vog> its devices?
[04:08] <Vog> not?
[04:08] <jpds> Vog: Devices failing to reply.
[04:08] <babinlonston> jpds shall i give u one pastein will u please verify my iptables .. i want to open ssh port in 2002 , ftp in 5000  , 9123 , 1935 ,2812 , 80 , 443 except these ports all want to get blocked ...
[04:08] <histo> Asad3ainJalout: jack sense is the issue
[04:09] <jpds> babinlonston: Have you looked at ufw?
[04:09] <Vog> many devices 25?
[04:09] <Asad3ainJalout> histo: lol that was fast, i take it your on linux as well
[04:09] <Vog> or one 25 times?
[04:09] <babinlonston> jpds: but the server have only iptables enabled
[04:09] <Asad3ainJalout> histo:thank you
[04:09] <jpds> Vog: Failing to reply/traceroute can't find aanything.
[04:09] <histo> Asad3ainJalout: unfortunately
[04:09] <jpds> babinlonston: And? ufw is a frontend to iptables.
[04:10] <babinlonston> ok then what i need to do first
[04:10] <jpds> babinlonston: Might be easier if all you want to do is allow some ports.
[04:10] <Shadowandlight> any ideas on why i need to keep running chown -R www-data:www-data <directory> on 2 directories that i am serving websites too everytime i reboot?
[04:10] <jpds> !ufw | babinlonston
[04:10] <Vog> jp what program wll be normal work?
[04:11] <babinlonston> jpds: ok but i cant use in gui only cli
[04:11] <jpds> Vog: Well, nothing; if the devices aren't replying to you.
[04:11] <Vog> bab what with my command iptables?
[04:11] <jpds> Vog: You can configure a device to do that.
[04:11] <CarlThansk> I assume that the complete lack of replies to my question is a "no"?
[04:11] <jpds> babinlonston: That's fine, ufw is a cli program.
[04:11] <babinlonston> k
[04:11] <Vog> how?
[04:11] <Vog> and...
[04:12] <Vog> I not see google site in the end of list
[04:12] <jpds> babinlonston: Flush your existing iptables first.
[04:12] <babinlonston> jpds: ok Done
[04:12] <jpds> babinlonston: sudo ufw allow 22
[04:12] <Guest50873> Why I'm appearing here as guest? I'm new to this but how can I use my nickname. Any ideas???
[04:12] <babinlonston> k
[04:13] <jpds> babinlonston: And do an allow for every port you want
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> Guest50873, what app are you using to get the irc?
[04:13] <jpds> babinlonston: Then, when you're sure you're not going to cut off access to your server, sudo ufw enable
[04:14] <babinlonston> k
[04:14] <Guest50873> wilee-nilee: I'm using XChat
[04:14] <derrik> which one is better ufw or iptables_
[04:14] <jpds> derrik: Neither, ufw uses iptables as a backend.
[04:14] <babinlonston> jpds: sudo ufw enable command not found
[04:14] <derrik> right
[04:15] <jpds> babinlonston: What? Then the allows shouldn't even work.
[04:15] <dolphin-man> hello
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> Guest50873, xchat has a nick name on the first gui, if the nick you have tried is already use you can't use it, you can register to have a nick that is always yours.
[04:15] <dolphin-man> does anyone know of any general chat channels
[04:15] <dolphin-man> other than #defocus
[04:15] <pvl1> is it possible to use an install iso as an apt repo
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> dolphin-man, #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:15] <babinlonston> ya while im enabling this gives me command not found
[04:15] <pvl1> without extracting
[04:15] <dolphin-man> thanks wilee-nilee
[04:16] <jpds> babinlonston: sudo apt-get install ufw ?
[04:16] <Guest50873> wilee-nilee, thanks for the information.
[04:16] <trollwork> so I'm trying to install postfix from a shell script in order to automate deployment (Chef & puppet have been banned from the office, don't ask) and the problem is even with a  >/dev/null 2>&1 you get the postfix menu.. is there way to default that?
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> Guest50873, no problem you can click you nick in the return window and change it right now if you like.
[04:17] <babinlonston> jpds: to see the rules which command i want to use  and its shows as rules updated
[04:17] <jpds> wilee-nilee: You want to look at debconf and preseeding that menu.
[04:17] <sk_sandeep> wilee-nilee: I have changed it. Thank you so much.
[04:17] <jpds> babinlonston: sudo ufw status verbose
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> jpds, Pardon?
[04:18] <jpds> wilee-nilee: Sorry, that was for trollwork.
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[04:18] <jpds> trollwork: You want to look at debconf and preseeding that menu.
[04:18] <trollwork> thanks jpds
[04:18] <babinlonston> jpds: :o
[04:18] <babinlonston> jpds: sudo ufw enable
[04:18] <babinlonston> Command may disrupt existing ssh connections. Proceed with operation (y|n)? n
[04:18] <babinlonston> Aborted
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> sk_sandeep, No problem, do you want register info?
[04:18] <irc4> Hi. I cannot remove Wine... my OS is ubuntu... any help would be great... it just won't go away....
[04:19] <jpds> babinlonston: Did you 'allow 22' ?
[04:19] <babinlonston> if im enabling its shows like this
[04:19] <CarlThansk> any known issues of seemingly random blocking of incoming connections from specific IPs
[04:19] <babinlonston> no my port is 2002 to ssh
[04:19] <babinlonston> yes its updated
[04:19] <jpds> babinlonston: Then sudo ufw allow 2002
[04:19] <charlie> .
[04:19]  * CarlThansk hopes someone new will see my question and have advice
[04:19] <jpds> CarlThansk: No.
[04:19] <CarlThansk> well, damn.
[04:19] <CarlThansk> it's happening, so.. ideas?
[04:20] <babinlonston> ok done
[04:20] <jpds> babinlonston: Now enable
[04:20] <Programmer_>  how do i enable remote access for certain ports on my desktop
[04:20] <jpds> babinlonston: I told you to do an allow for every port you want to open.
[04:20] <babinlonston> k
[04:21] <babinlonston> How to restrict except my allowed ports
[04:22] <jpds> babinlonston: That's done by default.
[04:22] <jpds> babinlonston: See: sudo ufw status verbose
[04:22] <babinlonston> oh ok fine then all other connections will be dropped ...
[04:22] <jpds> Yes.
[04:22] <charlie> what's the best channel to go if I have file manipulation command question? (e.g. take a bunch of files of a certain type flatten into another directory)
[04:23] <jpds> babinlonston: Not that they would work anyway as there's nothing listening on those ports.
[04:23] <babinlonston> k
[04:25] <CarlThansk> okay, let's try this another way.  what services on ubuntu server would create IP-based bans
[04:25] <CarlThansk> can*?
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> CarlThansk, There is a #ubuntu-server channel
[04:25] <babinlonston> jpds:  how can i restrict ping option to that server ip
[04:25] <jpds> CarlThansk: None.
[04:26] <CarlThansk> jpds: it's happening, so something is.
[04:26] <CarlThansk> wilee-nilee: thanks, i'll try it out
[04:26] <jpds> CarlThansk: Something weird is happening on your network.
[04:26] <jpds> babinlonston: Why?
[04:26] <CarlThansk> jpds: negative. I can access the resource from an external source
[04:26] <CarlThansk> someone else can't
[04:26] <Programmer_>  how do i enable remote access for certain ports on my desktop
[04:26] <CarlThansk> and they can access other resources on my network
[04:26] <jpds> CarlThansk: Something is wrong with their network then.
[04:26] <Programmer_> someone?
[04:26] <CarlThansk> see above
[04:27] <babinlonston> NO ONE NEED TO PING IT
[04:27] <jpds> babinlonston: Noone probably will.
[04:27] <jpds> CarlThansk: Sorry, you're going to have to use mtr and things like that to debug their network issues.
[04:27] <babinlonston> how to protect from ddos
[04:27] <babinlonston> jpds: how to protect from ddos
[04:28] <CarlThansk> it's not their network. they can access stuff hosted by me
[04:28] <johnflux> Anyone have a Samsung Galaxy S2 phone?  It seems that ubuntu cannot mount it.
[04:28] <Programmer_> i do
[04:29] <johnflux> The kernel is missing CONFIG_USB_DEVICE_CLASS
[04:29] <Programmer_> johnflux, mine mounts
[04:29] <johnflux> Programmer_: as a mass storage device?
[04:29] <Programmer_> yes
[04:29] <Programmer_> what you have to do is,
[04:29] <jpds> babinlonston: That's a topic beyond what this channel covers.
[04:29] <Programmer_> setting, more setting, and it's somewhere in there
[04:30] <babinlonston> jpds: ok
[04:30] <johnflux> Programmer_: on the phone?  I know how to set it to mass storage on the phone
[04:30] <Programmer_> yes, on the phone
[04:30] <Programmer_> well that should work
[04:30] <Programmer_> mine does
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> johnflux, What ubuntu release?
[04:30] <Programmer_> 13.04 works
[04:31] <sff_> msg NickServ IDENTIFY sff Wooo3dy38
[04:31] <johnflux> Programmer_: would you mind doing "uname -a"   and telling me what version you have please?
[04:31] <Programmer_> my bad
[04:31] <Programmer_> hold on
[04:31] <jpds> sff_: OK, change your password, fast.
[04:31] <johnflux> wilee-nilee: 13.04
[04:31] <Programmer_>  Linux h4ck3r-pc 3.8.0-27-generic #40-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 9 00:17:05 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:32] <johnflux> Programmer_: hmm, i'm using -18
[04:32] <Programmer_> im on 13.04....
[04:32] <johnflux> Programmer_: I'll upgrade and reboot
[04:32] <Programmer_> now can someone PLEASE help me
[04:32] <Programmer_> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:3790            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[04:32] <Programmer_> i wanna allow remote connections to that port
[04:33] <johnflux> Programmer_: enabling remote access for certain ports?
[04:33] <Programmer_> yes
[04:33] <johnflux> Programmer_: what makes you think it's not allowing remote access?
[04:33] <Programmer_> i cant connect to it...
[04:33] <Programmer_> it's on my local network
[04:33] <johnflux> Programmer_: and you are trying to connect to it from another machine on the same local network?
[04:34] <Programmer_> yes
[04:34] <darknyan> Are there any IPv6 tunnels for Ubuntu?
[04:34] <jpds> !ipv6 | darknyan
[04:34] <sk_sandeep> wilee-nilee: what is register info?
[04:34] <johnflux> Programmer_: from your local machine, can you "telnet localhost 3790"  ?
[04:34] <darknyan> Thanks mate, Didn't think it was in the wiki.
[04:34] <Programmer_> no
[04:35] <johnflux> Programmer_: what's the telnet error?
[04:35] <Programmer_> 404 error
[04:35] <Programmer_> however, in chrome it connects to the port
[04:35] <Programmer_> it's a web interface
[04:35] <johnflux> Programmer_: telnet literally says 404 ?
[04:35] <Programmer_> yes
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> !register | sk_sandeep
[04:36] <johnflux> Programmer_: then that means that it has been able to connect
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[04:36] <Programmer_> <body bgcolor="white">
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[04:36] <FloodBot1> Programmer_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[04:36] <johnflux> Programmer_: so telnet succeeded
[04:36] <Programmer_> no
[04:36] <johnflux> Programmer_: you successfully connected to web server program
[04:36] <Programmer_> no i didnt
[04:36] <johnflux> Programmer_: listen to me.
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> sk_sandeep, You can ask for a cloak after a couple of weeks to hide the IP when registered and keep your nick, and add others.
[04:36] <Programmer_> it's metasploit community
[04:36] <johnflux> Programmer_: "<html><head<..."  is coming FROM your webserver program
[04:37] <Programmer_> i had to exit telnet to get that error
[04:37] <johnflux> Programmer_: if you killed your webserver, telnet would not give you that error
[04:37] <Programmer_> exit
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[04:37] <Programmer_> ...
[04:37] <johnflux> Programmer_: from a remote machine do you also get that 400 or 404 error?
[04:37] <Programmer_> no i dont
[04:37] <jpds> Programmer_: Makes sense, you made a Bad Request.
[04:37] <sasd> is it possible
[04:37] <Programmer_> i get a connection refused
[04:37] <sk_sandeep> ok, wilee-nilee
[04:38] <sasd> to upgrade live ubuntu usb
[04:38] <Programmer_> im on the machine that the app is running on it it connects fine
[04:38] <Programmer_> however, on my tablet it doesnt connect
[04:38] <sasd> is it possible to upgrade live ubuntu usb
[04:38] <Ben64> !enter | Programmer_
[04:38] <wilee-nilee> sasd, What do mean upgrade?
[04:38] <Programmer_> Ben64, -.-
[04:38] <sasd> like you got ubuntu live cd 12 and now you want to upgrade this cd to 13
[04:39] <jpds> Programmer_: Check tcpdump.
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> sasd, No you have to load a new iso.
[04:39] <johnflux> Programmer_: from your localhost, in your web browser does it connect if you use your local network IP, instead of just "localhost" or 127.0.0.1 ?
[04:39] <ahua> -.-
[04:39] <Programmer_> hold on
[04:39] <Ben64> Programmer_: you're filling the whole channel with nonsense. use a pastebin if you have to paste more than one line. use nmap to check if a port is open across your network
[04:39] <charlie> I just constructed a very satisfying command and I'm happy. Others are also welcome to congratulate me. It was: find ./../Downloads/ -print0 | grep -zP '.mobi$' |xargs -0 -I {} cp {} .
[04:39] <charlie> :P
[04:39] <Programmer_> yes
[04:40] <ahua> õĮĀÕźĮ
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> sasd, I use a multiload app for my usb's you can have multiple ISO's if you have a usb that is big enough to hold them.
[04:40] <johnflux> Programmer_: okay.  from a remote machine, can you try that "telnet  ip 3790"
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> !cn | ahua
[04:40] <johnflux> Programmer_: I'm expecting an error like "unable to connect to remote host"
[04:41] <ahua> yes
[04:41] <sasd> ok is it possible to upgrade it when running live cd ?
[04:41] <Sk1Special> chinese writing is awesome.. all the other languages are lame and use letters.
[04:41] <Programmer_> johnflux, i get nothing
[04:42] <johnflux> Programmer_: you should at minimum get "Trying ip.ip.ip.ip...."
[04:42] <sasd> like you are running live ubuntu 11 and upgrade the live ubuntu 12 for temp
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> sasd, You can't upgrade to another release form a live media, and only some in distro updates if you have persistence
[04:42] <Programmer_> i didnt
[04:42] <Programmer_> said connection timed out...
[04:42] <johnflux> Programmer_: that's not nothing !
[04:42] <johnflux> Programmer_: oh
[04:43] <johnflux> Programmer_: can you do:  ping ip
[04:43] <johnflux> Programmer_: from the remote machine
[04:43] <Programmer_> yes
[04:43] <johnflux> Programmer_: you are using the ip, not the same name, right?
[04:43] <Programmer_> i get a reply
[04:43] <Programmer_> yes
[04:43] <johnflux> Programmer_: okay great.  could you do:  sudo ufw status  on localhost please
[04:44] <sasd> why it's not possible to just update the iso ....................... it's just too time consuming to download the whole iso again for each new release ..................
[04:44] <Programmer_> Status: inactive
[04:44] <sasd> dont you guys think so.....
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> sasd, The iso is read only on a disc or usb.
[04:44] <histo> Programmer_: which OS are you running?  you're on to many different channels asking the same question for me to keep up
[04:44] <Programmer_> ubuntu
[04:44] <Programmer_> histo, what other channel am i on asking?
[04:44] <histo> Programmer_: hak5
[04:44] <Programmer_> oh yeah i see that now
[04:44] <histo> Programmer_: sudo iptables -L
[04:45] <johnflux> Programmer_: do what he says ^^
[04:45] <Programmer_> nothing
[04:45] <johnflux> Programmer_: okay, what program is this again?
[04:45] <johnflux> Programmer_: is it apache?
[04:45] <pinPoint> why is it so hard to jail a user to their home directory in ssh/sftp22)?
[04:45] <Programmer_> metasploit
[04:45] <pinPoint> they always go up in their folder
[04:45] <pinPoint> or they are not jailed
[04:48] <histo> Programmer_: can you telnet to the port from the other machine?
[04:48] <Programmer_> no, i cant, #hak5 plz
[04:49] <johnflux> Programmer_: https://community.rapid7.com/thread/1459
[04:49] <johnflux> Programmer_: you have to setup metasploit first
[04:49] <johnflux> Programmer_: before you can access remotely
[04:49] <johnflux> Programmer_: "Once the user account has been configured, you can access the instance remotely through port 3790."
[04:52] <sasd> wilee-nilee , zsync can upgrade an iso file
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> sasd, Yes, but not from distro to distro that I have seen.
[04:53] <xmetal> :|
[04:53] <Jordan_U> sasd: The combination of modifying the iso and using persistance would be unreliable at best.
[04:53] <sk_sandeep> wilee-nilee: thanks again, I have registered my nick name
[04:53] <wilee-nilee> sasd, And it's on the usb.
[04:54] <Jordan_U> sasd: Though in the absense of persistance using zsync to upgrade isos is awesome :)
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> sk_sandeep, No problem, ou can ask in #freenode for a cloak after awhile or donate and get one now.
[04:55] <sasd> ok guys bye
[04:56] <universal> I purged rar and unrar packages and then reinstall them by dpkg and apt-get both but now when right clicking on any file or folder and compressing it, cbr and rar formats are not showing up in formats tab of compress window....how to fix this ?
[04:56] <_Bradders> QQ Does anyone know of an IRC channel for simplesamlphp ?
[04:57] <universal> anyone ?
[04:57] <Jordan_U> !alis | _Bradders
[04:57] <_Bradders> !alias
[04:57] <_Bradders> :)
[04:57] <universal> wilee-nilee: ?
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> universal, When we know we generally answer. ;)
[04:58] <lgc> How do I find out if my two processors are working?
[04:58] <universal> wilee-nilee: I know...I thought maybe you were busy on some other tab.....drawing the attention, nothing more
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> cool
[04:58] <universal> any guess ?
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> never messed with rar
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> universal, You might try ##linux if registered
[05:01] <universal> wilee-nilee: well I am registered but here on this channel and not ##linux
[05:02] <tones> Lubuntu works really well on a netbook
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> universal, this channel has no registration, only freenode
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> !register | universal
[05:03] <universal> wilee-nilee: and I think its not concerned with rar but general file association.....coz I am able to open and make new rars, furthermore when doing apt-get again its saying rar is already installed and is of newest version....its just not showing up in format options tab in compress window
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> universal, All that is beyond me I'm just a armchair user if I need to do something I don;t know I look it up.
[05:04] <dacs> hello folks, i am running 12.04 on my hp laptop and i noticed that my connection to internet via wireless is very slow
[05:04] <dacs> other devices on the same wireless AP are normal
[05:04] <universal> wilee-nilee: then I'm registered on freenode but I dont know if my nick is alive as i logged more then 3months ago last time
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> universal, They will fire you back up with an email on #freenode
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> if you can't login
[05:05] <universal> wilee-nilee: any specific locations where i may be able to find some answers ?
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> universal, Closest I can think of is ##linux.
[05:06] <dacs> anyone
[05:06] <wilee-nilee> I never see anyone messing with rar in ubuntu
[05:06] <universal> wilee-nilee: ok, thnx...appreciate ur words....and just 2mins....I'll disconnect and rejoin - 2mins
[05:06] <danny4way> How to connect wireless printer to Ubuntu?
[05:06] <wilee-nilee> dacs, Generally details like the hardware is a good start and some history on the issue.
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> for the channel not me.
[05:07] <danny4way> Is there any default on Ubuntu that let you connect Wireless Printer for scanning and printing?
[05:07] <danny4way> Anyone? I need help.
[05:07] <Ben64> !patience | danny4way
[05:08] <dacs> wilee-nilee: thank you
[05:08] <dacs> my wireless built in card is 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6200 (rev 35)
[05:08] <holstein> danny4way: i have the printer connected wirelessly to the router my machines are connected to
[05:08] <dacs> this is on an HP pavilion dv7
[05:08] <holstein> danny4way: some printers broadcast a wifi access point you might be able to connect to.. i would share more details about the printer and what you are wanting to do
[05:09] <martin1989> hello people
[05:09] <danny4way> My printer doesn't automatically broadcast a wifi access point
[05:09] <martin1989> are you there?
[05:09] <danny4way> I need to install something on my computer first in order to run it wireless.
[05:09] <MoPac> danny4way: what kind of printer is it?
[05:09] <martin1989> i have a question about xubuntu
[05:09] <holstein> danny4way: i didnt say "automatically".. i said *some* do.. if yours doesnt, then that is not appropriate..
[05:09] <danny4way> HP officejet
[05:10] <MoPac> danny4way: Do you have HP-LIP installed?
[05:10] <holstein> danny4way: is it connected to the router?
[05:10] <martin1989> i would like to start xubuntu always in text mode
[05:10] <danny4way> No. It isn't connected to the router
[05:10] <universal> wilee-nilee: why this statement -  I never see anyone messing with rar in ubuntu ??
[05:10] <martin1989> how can i do that?
[05:10] <danny4way> And no I don't have Hp-LIP installed MoPac
[05:10] <holstein> !text
[05:10] <holstein> martin1989: ^
[05:10] <MoPac> danny4way: That's what I would do - install HP-LIP
[05:10] <universal> wilee-nilee: whats your point ?
[05:11] <danny4way> And what happen after installing HP-LIP
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> universal, It is as it is stated, I never see anyone using rar, is that okay?
[05:11] <holstein> danny4way: is the printer connected to the wireless network?
[05:11] <MoPac> danny4way: HP-LIP has a device manager to set up HP printers
[05:11] <danny4way> I am not setting up my hP printer on my laptop
[05:12] <holstein> danny4way: how are you seting it up?
[05:12] <universal> wilee-nilee: ohh, thats weird...I thought rar is most preferable for general users !
[05:12] <holstein> danny4way: vie the wifi network? is the printer connected to the wifi network? and is the ubuntu machine? can you ping the printer?
[05:12] <danny4way> Wait. The only thing I know is that I need to set up on computer with router
[05:12] <danny4way> which I still haven't
[05:13] <holstein> danny4way: correct.. *is* the pritner connected to the wireless router? yes or no?
[05:13] <danny4way> No
[05:13] <holstein> danny4way: is the computer connected to the *same* wireless router? yes or no?
[05:13] <martin1989> thanx
[05:13] <danny4way> But the printer is manually by USB connected to my computer
[05:14] <holstein> danny4way: so, you can print via USB?
[05:14] <danny4way> Yes but not wirelessly
[05:14] <danny4way> Okay. Let me make this clear
[05:14] <holstein> danny4way: is the computer connected to the *same* wireless router? yes or no?
[05:14] <danny4way> I have one desktop and one laptop
[05:14] <danny4way> My desktop is windows
[05:14] <danny4way> I have ubuntu on my laptop
[05:15] <danny4way> My desktop is connected to printer with USB manually
[05:15] <holstein> danny4way: is the ubuntu machine connected to the same wireless router wirelessly via wifi conneciton that the printer is connected to?
[05:15] <danny4way> But my real question is Do I need to set up on desktop? And how?
[05:15] <danny4way> Yes.
[05:16] <holstein> danny4way: the desktop is running windows..
[05:16] <danny4way> Same wireless router.
[05:16] <danny4way> Yes. The desktop is running windows.
[05:16] <holstein> danny4way: so, if the desktop is not printing to the HP printer, you would ask HP or seek windows support
[05:16] <danny4way> But I still don't have any idea how to set up wireless for my printer.
[05:16] <holstein> danny4way: you would ask HP about that
[05:16] <danny4way> desktop is printing is so well
[05:17] <danny4way> Just that my laptop, I don't know how to connect
[05:17] <danny4way> Where do I click so I can connect with that printer?
[05:18] <holstein> danny4way: there is a printer wizard in ubuntu... you can use it to try and discover the printer.. assuming they are both connected on the same network
[05:18] <holstein> i like to confirm that by pinging the printer..
[05:18] <holstein> danny4way: you click "add a pritner"
[05:18] <MoPac> danny4way: For ubuntu, install HP-LIP. But it doesn't sound like you're having an ubuntu problem -- it sounds more like a problem of finding wireless setup instructions in your HP manual
[05:18] <holstein> printer*
[05:18] <danny4way> MoPac, yeah. that too
[05:19] <universal_> wilee-nilee: I got disconnected...so what do you use if rar is not preferable ?
[05:19] <holstein> danny4way: the windows machine is printing wirelessly, correct?
[05:19] <danny4way> No
[05:19] <danny4way> Manually with USB
[05:19] <MoPac> danny4way: Have you tried doing a wireless setup by using the settings tools for your printer in the windows HP printer control software?
[05:20] <holstein> danny4way: then, start there.. since you have well documented instructions and support.. actual documented windows support
[05:20] <danny4way> Okay. I will go and check it out.
[05:20] <danny4way> I think I get what you guys are talking about now.
[05:20] <holstein> danny4way: what do i do? i connect *everything* to the same network.. i get IP addresses, and i see that i can ping everything.. then, i use the GUI wizard tools to try first
[05:20] <chiques> ok, distro upgrade via ssh , not a good idea
[05:58] <bruce_> Hi, I am using Ubuntu on a Macbook Pro. I just loaded it, and none of the close/minimize etc buttons are on any windows. Also, the latest window to be opened stays on top, no matter what. I have done a restart, and its the same...
[05:59] <holstein> bruce_: arent on any windows?
[05:59] <bruce_> holstein - yes, no buttons on windows - only menu items...
[06:01] <holstein> bruce_: can you take a screenshot? and elaborate about the focus issue?
[06:01] <bruce_> holstein - yes, whats a quick way to do that?
[06:02] <holstein> bruce_: i use imagebin
[06:02] <bruce_> holstein - cool, done. can I paste it in here? what's the protocol?
[06:03] <bruce_> holstein - none of the resizing stuff works for the outside edge of windows - its like the whole border is not being drawn...
[06:04] <holstein> bruce_: i use imagebin to host/share
[06:04] <holstein> !paste
[06:05] <holstein> bruce_: sounds like an issue with the graphics hardware driver..
[06:07] <FroMaster> I've got a 24 servers with 12 SATA drives (288 total) and I need a way to test all the drives to see if they are failing... The typical tools from WD and Seagate don't detect all the disks via their DOS tools. What can i run in Linux that will allow me to run each of the drives through a deep scan?
[06:07] <bruce_> holstein - here it is: http://imagebin.org/266780
[06:07] <bruce_> holstein - i havent made any changes to anything that i know of...
[06:08] <holstein> FroMaster: i use the smart tools from a live CD
[06:08] <holstein> bruce_: what graphics hardware do you have?
[06:09] <hanuman> hi
[06:10] <Ultimate4> Hello there. I am not able to get frontend ubuntu graphical interface working after many tries. Is there something i can do?
[06:10] <bruce_> holstein - it's an AMD radeon HD 6000M series - it's a hybrid graphics card for a 2011 Macbook Pro...
[06:10] <hanuman> how can i do kvm virtualization
[06:10] <bruce_> holstein - i mean 6600 series:)
[06:10] <Ultimate4> I can't open file manager. Desktop is also not working. But terminal and all applications are working fine.
[06:11] <holstein> bruce_: i would say, you should try installing a proprietary driver for the ATI device
[06:11] <Ultimate4> I can open browsers from terminal.
[06:11] <holstein> !ati | this is what i reference
[06:12] <Ultimate4> Is there a command to reset everything related to ubuntu graphical interface including deleting old configurations?
[06:12] <bruce_> holstein - yes, good suggestion - do I look for it at the AMD site? This is new to me - what kind of file do i look for, or can i do it another way?
[06:12] <holstein> Ultimate4: i would try as another user. if all is well, then the issue is likely in your user's /home
[06:12] <holstein> bruce_: i reference the link i gave, which will say what package to use.. i usually start with the default one in the repos
[06:13] <bruce_> holstein: not quite sure what you mean - which link are you talking about?
[06:14] <Ultimate4> holstein: I did it. But same problem persists. Other than that, everything works fine including system sound. I can even play videos using vlc and on youtube.
[06:14] <holstein> !ati | bruce_
[06:14] <Ultimate4> So it doesn't seem to be drivers issue. Maybe some corrupted desktop configuration.
[06:15] <holstein> ^^ that one bruce_ ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[06:15] <holstein> Ultimate4: what seems to have cuased this?
[06:15] <bruce_> holstein: trying now - thanks:)
[06:15] <bruce_> ubottu thanks:)
[06:15] <holstein> !bot
[06:17] <hanuman> can any one send links for kvm virtualization using command prompt in ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[06:17] <Ultimate4> holstein: Last time i installed audacity, pavumeter and pavucontrol packages and rebooted my computer. This problem started after that.
[06:17] <holstein> Ultimate4: after also taking upgrades?
[06:17] <Ultimate4> Yes
[06:17] <holstein> Ultimate4: so, you installed *many* other packages
[06:17] <phizes_> Hi, I am using https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/mysql to get MySQL 5.5 for Precise, the problem is that 5.6 is also provided, I have managed to pin most of the packages at 5.5 (notably the ones with 5.5 in the package name) I can't work out how to pin libmysqlclient18 to 5.5 as well, here is my current apt preferences.d config http://paste.ubuntu.com/5957784/ Could any one point me in the right direction?
[06:18] <somsip> !pinning
[06:18] <holstein> Ultimate4: what would i do? run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".. reboot and test.. then, if its still there, i would start by trying to boot an older kernel
[06:19] <Ultimate4> holstein: No. The problem just after installing these three packages. I upgraded ubuntu thinking that the problem may get automatically resolved, but it didn't.
[06:19] <phizes_> somsip: Yes, I have followed that, but unfortunately I can't figure out how to pin to a different version, in the same repo, when the package name is the same.
[06:19] <holstein> Ultimate4: then, skip to the step about booting an older kernel, friend
[06:19] <phizes_> And for the same Ubuntu release
[06:20] <holstein> Ultimate4: if you thing those packages caused the issue, remove them (i dont think they did)
[06:21] <Ultimate4> holstein: I removed them, but it also didn't helped. Is there a command to just reset every graphical frontend interface configuration?
[06:21] <Ultimate4> Otherwise my last resort would to install a fresh new OS on my /dev/sda7 drive.
[06:22] <Ultimate4> Which currently holds this ubuntu OS
[06:22] <holstein> Ultimate4: so the older kernel didnt help?
[06:22] <Ultimate4> yes, it didn't
[06:23] <holstein> Ultimate4: do you have any PPA's added?
[06:23] <Ultimate4> no
[06:25] <holstein> Ultimate4: then, i would try looking at some logs, or elaborating, or go for the fresh install
[06:25] <holstein> Ultimate4: the issue with that is, you wont konw what you did to cause it
[06:25] <Ultimate4> I am also thinking of a fresh install.
[06:25] <Ultimate4> But i have a problem.
[06:25] <Ultimate4> My CD Drive is broken.
[06:26] <Ultimate4> And my pc don't support usb boot
[06:26] <holstein> Ultimate4: you can take the hard drive to another machine
[06:26] <phizes> Ultimate4: PXE install? If it supports network boot?
[06:26] <Ultimate4> By the way, i have windows 7 and windows xp installed alongwith ubuntu, and i can switch them in grub.
[06:28] <qin> Wonder what machine running ms7 do not boot vie usb...
[06:28] <holstein> qin: broken hardware
[06:29] <holstein> qin: should boot USB though, right?
[06:29] <Ultimate4> heh
[06:29] <holstein> i have had luck on "broken" cd roms getting plop boot CD to boot there
[06:29] <qin> this would point to simple radical solution like new parts...
[06:29] <Ultimate4> Is there a way to setup windows 7 so that when next time i restart my PC, ubuntu ISO get booted from a particular location?
[06:29] <Ultimate4> Or probably boot ISO from grub ?
[06:30] <Ultimate4> windows 7 is on /dev/sda1
[06:30] <holstein> Ultimate4: i dont know windows, but nothing about linux/ubuntu is preventing you from installing via bootstrap, USB, PXE.. or on another machine. or with a replacement rom drive
[06:30] <somsip> phizes: eh? That was a reminder to me. It wasn't aimed at you :)
[06:31] <alphix> :)
[06:31] <somsip> phizes: but I just used: echo firefox hold | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[06:31] <Ultimate4> I see.
[06:31] <Ultimate4> ty
[06:31] <phizes> somsip: Ah, apologies, I had just asked a pinning question, so I thought it was directed at me.
[06:31] <somsip> phizes: np :) Does that use of --set-selections help you?
[06:32] <qin> Ultimate4: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847 for isobooting
[06:32] <qin> Ultimate4: sorry, this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[06:33] <phizes> somsip: Will look at it now, I think I didn't go that route initially as it may have set it to a specific version, while I still want the updates for 5.5, just not to 5.6
[06:33] <somsip> phizes: ah. Not sure if what I posted will work then. I just needed to pin at an old version of FF and not apply any updates
[06:34] <phizes> somsip: Also, I'm not sure if it will still apply with a dist-upgrade, but haven't tried, thanks.
[06:37] <Ultimate4> ty qin
[06:38] <Shrimp_> hello
[06:38] <alphix> :)
[06:39] <Shrimp_> i want to re-package a install iso image with src image, what should i do
[06:40] <dr_willis> !remaster
[06:42] <martin1989> hi everybody
[06:42] <eduardo_> br?
[06:42] <martin1989> i enabled the text mode
[06:42] <eduardo_> ^^
[06:42] <martin1989> but now vlc does not reproduce sound
[06:42] <martin1989> :-(
[06:42] <dr_willis> eduardo_:  what?
[06:42] <holstein> martin1989: cvlc?
[06:43] <martin1989> yeap
[06:43] <martin1989> i tried to see a movie
[06:43] <dr_willis> martin1989:  how are you starting  the desktop gui?
[06:43] <holstein> martin1989: the desktop starts things that are needed. you'll need to determine what you need and start it
[06:43] <martin1989> after i wrote startx
[06:43] <martin1989> aaaaaah
[06:43] <martin1989> i see
[06:43] <holstein> martin1989: x was already starting
[06:43] <martin1989> i didnt know that
[06:43] <holstein> martin1989: automatically
[06:43] <Shrimp_> ubottu: thank u
[06:44] <holstein> !bot > Shrimp_
[06:44] <dr_willis> vlc has a setting to use alsa instead of pulse audio
[06:44] <eduardo_> pt br???
[06:44] <dr_willis> !br
[06:44] <martin1989> how could i make vlc takes the sound again??
[06:44] <lkthomas> LOL, how come ubuntu for desktop installation is so nice
[06:44] <lkthomas> and for server installation still have no GUI
[06:45] <holstein> martin1989: one suggestion i believe you just missed was looking for alsa output in vlc
[06:45] <dr_willis> be sure pulse audio is running. or set vlc to use alsa
[06:45] <holstein> martin1989: or, just revert the settings, if you want a desktop machine
[06:45] <martin1989> all right
[06:45] <dysun> Hi all. Earlier I had created a user called dysun_guest and made rbash it's default shell. As the user 'dysun_guest' i typed in the command 'bash' and managed to get around the rbash restrictions. Now whenever I type in cd ~ as 'dysun' it tries to go to the home directory of root. It throws the following error "bash: cd: /root: Permission denied". I checked in the /etc/passwd file and my home directory is still /home/dysun. Any
[06:45] <dysun> thoughts on how to fix this?
[06:45] <welcome> dr_willis: I purged rar and unrar packages and reinstalled them again by dpkg and apt-get but cbr and rar options are not shown up in format options tab of compress window when right clicking on any file or folder and choosing compress
[06:45] <dr_willis> lkthomas: a has no x desktop normally
[06:45] <martin1989> nono..i want to run the pc in text mode
[06:45] <lkthomas> dr_willis: huh ?
[06:46] <martin1989> except when i see a movi
[06:46] <martin1989> e
[06:46] <martin1989> there i put startx
[06:46] <lkthomas> dr_willis: installer should have one
[06:46] <martin1989> see the movie
[06:46] <martin1989> and then come back to de the
[06:46] <martin1989> text
[06:46] <FloodBot1> martin1989: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:46] <lkthomas> LOL
[06:46] <dr_willis> lkthomas:  not really.. text installer works fine
[06:46] <lkthomas> dr_willis: I know, but it look nicer :P
[06:46] <dr_willis> server is not about looks
[06:47] <lkthomas> dr_willis: I also know :)
[06:47] <dr_willis> martin1989:  mplayer can play a movie on the consoles  no x needed
[06:48] <lkthomas> dr_willis: WHAT?!
[06:48] <lkthomas> dr_willis: is it using frame buffer ?
[06:49] <dr_willis> martin1989:  vlc uses pulse audio by default. of you dont have pulse going set it to use alsa
[06:49] <dr_willis> lkthomas: i think so
[06:49] <dr_willis> or sdl
[06:49] <lkthomas> dr_willis: I think frame buffer have limitation, but not sure what
[06:50] <lkthomas> I was trying to find a browser program which run on framebuffer as well
[06:50] <dr_willis> ive watched tons of videos in the framebuffer  mplayer stuff over the yeats
[06:50] <qin> lkthomas: elinks, links2
[06:50] <dr_willis> links2 -g    i think
[06:50] <lkthomas> qin: does it work well with javascript as well ?
[06:52] <dr_willis> try it and see  ;-)
[06:52] <dr_willis> bb
[06:52] <dr_willis> bbl
[06:55] <qin> lkthomas: good you do not need flash, http://askubuntu.com/questions/34687/is-there-a-text-mode-browser-which-support-javascript
[06:55] <skepti> hi, can anyone help with a 13.04 hibernate prob? "sudo s2disk" works, "sudo pm-hibernate" works, but clicking hibernate in the system menu freezes, forcing hard-reset to recover
[07:07] <Netu> Hello there, is anyone familiar with Linux SCCM configuration and troubleshooting?
[07:09] <bazhang> Netu, related to Ubuntu support how?
[07:10] <Netu> bazhang: I was just wondering If I could get any help from here... Since I havent been able to find anywhere else... :)
[07:11] <Mouzz> Should it be possible to set up two (or more) google (apps) talk accounts with 2-factor auth in Empathy (Ubuntu online accounts)
[07:11] <karthik__> hi every one i want to transfer file localhost to remote system can u help me?
[07:12] <Mouzz> Because it does not work for me. Either one or the other account gets logged in and the other displays a "auth required" message.
[07:12] <Mouzz> karthik__: I'd use ssh for that with the command "scp"
[07:13] <karthik__> thank u <Mouzz>
[07:14] <Mouzz> karthik__: example "scp localFilename.ext karthik@remote.computer.org:/destination/path"
[07:20] <italia> hi, how can i go to system in ubuntu 13.04, please
[07:20] <Mouzz> italia: "go to system" ?
[07:20] <italia> yes, please
[07:20] <Mouzz> What is that? What do you mean by that?
[07:21] <histo> !it | italia
[07:22] <italia> before you put administration/preferencias/system in ubuntu 11.10
[07:23] <histo> karthik__: or sshfs
[07:23] <histo> italia: click your name by the clock or type in system in the dash
[07:25] <italia> ty, ang go to equipe  please
[07:26] <Lope> I'm busy installing a Netbeans IDE. it defaults to my /home dir but since my /home dir is encrypted I'd rather not putnetbeans there for performance reasons. I'd prefer /opt. I googled it and apparently /opt is a common choice. any recommendations?
[07:27] <italia> is easy go to files and folders, but hlow can i go to equipe, please
[07:27] <italia> how
[07:31] <LEGEND> Hello there. Is there any difference between functionality and appearance between 12.04 LTS and 13.04?
[07:32] <LEGEND> I have a pretty much slow connection. So it's not feasible to upgrade every 9 months.
[07:32] <bazhang> LEGEND, try them via live dvd/usb and decide
[07:34] <LEGEND> ok
[07:34] <LEGEND> ty
[07:39] <dysun> Hi all. Earlier I had created a user called dysun_guest and made rbash it's default shell. As the user 'dysun_guest' i typed in the command 'bash' and managed to get around the rbash restrictions. Now whenever I type in cd ~ as 'dysun' it tries to go to the home directory of root. It throws the following error "bash: cd: /root: Permission denied". I checked in the /etc/passwd file and my home directory is still /home/dysun. Any
[07:39] <dysun> thoughts on how to fix this?
[07:40] <thedoctar> is au.archive.ubuntu.com up?
[07:41] <thedoctar> I get this error while trying to upgrade:
[07:41] <thedoctar> Err http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-updates/main firefox-globalmenu amd64 23.0+build2-0ubuntu0.13.04.1
[07:41] <thedoctar>   Connection failed
[07:41] <somsip> Lope: runthe installer as sudo and it will end up in /usr/local IIRC
[07:43] <thedoctar> actually, don't worry; for some reason it works now
[07:45] <histo> TheLordOfTime: try isitlive.net
[07:46] <histo> TheLordOfTime: sorry wrong person
[07:46] <histo> dysun: how did you create the user? You can use usermod to specify a new home
[07:58] <lisak> hey, after yesterday's update, I noticed in software centre history, that  gnome-panel, gnome-session-fallback, gnome-applets  etc. were removed  and I can't login to my gnome-classic
[07:59] <Shadow}}> Anyone know where the the history to Skype is located? Or how to delete said history...
[07:59] <blazemore> Shadow}}: look in ~/.Skype
[07:59] <lisak> and it is unable to install those libs  https://gist.github.com/l15k4/6172115
[08:00] <lisak> I'm on 12.04
[08:00] <blazemore> lisak: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[08:00] <lisak> can I do that when in X session ?
[08:01] <blazemore> lisak: Yes
[08:01] <blazemore> lisak: Reboot after
[08:01] <Shadow}}> Not seeing anything directly called history or log... Any idea which of these is history if any?
[08:02] <histo> Shadow}}: probably in a sqlite database somewhere
[08:02] <histo> Shadow}}: you could strace it and see or let me look at something real quick
[08:02] <blazemore> Shadow}}: I think it's all the *.dbb files
[08:02] <blazemore> Shadow}}: http://princesewani.wordpress.com/2012/03/27/how-to-clear-skype-chat-history-on-ubuntu/
[08:04] <Shadow}}> Hm, Will these command lines the same for Xubuntu?
[08:04] <Shadow}}> * are these..
[08:04] <histo> Shadow}}: yes
[08:05] <Shadow}}> Okay; And how to enter these double command lines? One after another, Or like shift_enter both?
[08:06] <lisak> blazemore, I suppose now I have to install gnome-classic
[08:06] <lisak> cause there is now option for it when logging in
[08:06] <lisak> no*
[08:06] <histo> Shadow}}: what double command lines?
[08:07] <Shadow}}> Uh well, It lists two lines of commands stack on top of one another on this help page.
[08:07] <histo> Shadow}}: that command is horrible
[08:08] <Shadow}}> Right, So just go find the files and do it manually?
[08:08] <lisak> blazemore, https://gist.github.com/l15k4/6172169
[08:08] <histo> Shadow}}: cd into your skype directory and find . -name "*.dbb" -delete
[08:09] <histo> Shadow}}: that will delete all .dbb files down from whatever directory you are in.
[08:09] <Shadow}}> But...All these are .db not .dbb O.o
[08:10] <histo> Shadow}}: then fix with .db accordingly but make sure you are in the .Skype directory first
[08:10] <elisa87> do you know why am receiving this segfault or how to acquire more info through gdb? here is what I have investigated so far http://paste.ubuntu.com/5958050/
[08:10] <histo> Shadow}}: or find .Skype -name '*.db' -delete
[08:11] <karthik__> hi every one i want to transfer file localhost to remote system can u help me with example?
[08:11] <histo> karthik__: scp somefile user@remotehost:/path/to/whereever
[08:11] <Shadow}}> histo; Sorry but could you be more specific on what the line is?  Without sudo? And start with /find/?
[08:12] <histo> karthik__: assuming the remote host is listening via ssh
[08:12] <elisa87> karthik__:  try scp
[08:12] <histo> Shadow}}: you don't need sudo
[08:12] <histo> Shadow}}: "find .Skype -name '*.db' -delete"   that will find all db files in the .Skype directory and delete them.
[08:13] <Shadow}}> Erm, -name isn't to replaced by the skype user's name? Or is?
[08:13] <histo> Shadow}}: no -name is used to specify the *.db files
[08:13] <Shadow}}> histo; Oh! Gotcha, Thanks.
[08:14] <histo> Shadow}}: I don't know how else to explain it.  find files in .Skype that contain in their name .db and -delete them basically
[08:15] <Shadow}}> Nono I get it now; Just got confused after seeing those lines on that site compared to that one...
[08:15] <histo> Shadow}}: the lines on the site were silly my way is more efficient
[08:16] <Shadow}}> Well it certainly deleted history along with the contacts. xD Glad I only had three.
[08:17] <Shadow}}> Luckily it won't be required again; I just forgot to disable history before using Skype on this drive...
[08:19] <wiehan> how do I clear smb-client or nautilus samba saved passwords/keyrings/credentials?
[08:20] <histo> Shadow}}: if you log back into skype it should pull your contacts back down
[08:21] <Shadow}}> Ah, It didn't the first time for some reason. o.o
[08:21] <Shadow}}> Thanks histo.
[08:22] <wiehan> how does one clear all samba stored passwords and credentials?
[08:24] <histo> wiehan: first you need to figure out where they are stored probably in your keyring
[08:24] <wiehan> histo, I checked the keyring: Only contains google chrome passwords... no samba or nautilus
[08:25] <lisak> how can I get rid of the backup linux-image packages ? https://gist.github.com/l15k4/6172239
[08:25] <lisak> to free up some disk space
[08:26] <wiehan> lisak maybe a bit unrelated but sudo apt-get dist-upgrade clears some unwanted packages
[08:26] <lisak> I don't see a reason for ubuntu to keep 30 versions of the same package
[08:27] <lisak> wiehan, I need to free up some disk space to perform dist-upgrade
[08:27] <lisak> I have just 1,9GB
[08:28] <lisak> anybody ?
[08:29] <wiehan> lisak, remember dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade your distro to the latest version - it is a massive misnomer\
[08:29] <histo> lisak: just remove them.
[08:29] <histo> lisak: remove the kernels that aren't in use or use unattended-upgrades to do it
[08:30] <llutz> lisak: sudo aptitude purge '~n3.2.0-2' '~n3.2.0-3'
[08:31] <llutz> lisak: if you are sure the -51 works fine, also purge -4
[08:34] <krz> how do i know which version of mongodb is in apt-cache?
[08:35] <llutz> krz apt-cache policy <packagename>
[08:35] <lisak> thanks, 4GB freed
[08:36] <krz> im trying to install mongodb. but apt-cache policy doesnt say anythign about the version it will install
[08:36] <llutz> sure it does
[08:37] <llutz> here (12.10) it says .. Candidate: 1:2.0.6-1ubuntu4 ..
[08:37] <krz> llutz: what version of mongodb is that?
[08:37] <krz> oh 2.0.6?
[08:38] <llutz> krz: i'd guess
[08:38] <krz> err i need 2.2 at least
[08:38] <histo> krz: apt-cache showpkg packagename
[08:39] <histo> !info mongodb
[08:39] <krz> should i do sudo-apt get mongodb or mongodb-server?
[08:39] <sirstonius> sooo do i have to purchase steam to download it via ubuntu software center?
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> !info mongodb
[08:39] <somsip> krz: apt-get madison packagename can also give helpful info
[08:39] <histo> sirstonius: no
[08:39] <DJones> sirstonius: YOu have to go through the purchase process, but the price is Nil
[08:39] <sirstonius> do i have to enter billing/cc info?
[08:40] <DJones> sirstonius: No
[08:40] <krz> k. 2.2.4 is good enough
[08:40] <krz> ty
[08:40] <LEGEND> There is ubuntu 11.04 already installed on /dev/sda7. Now i would like to install ubuntu 12.04 LTS on that extended drive by replacing 11.04. Should i delete all files of 11.04 manually or i would get the option to format /dev/sda7 at installation time?
[08:40] <sirstonius> DJones, histo, thanks. was curious about that.. on to install it now
[08:40] <iceroot_> LEGEND: use the way with the partiton
[08:41] <LEGEND> iceroot_: I don't get it. Do you mean formatting during installation time?
[08:41] <LEGEND> Btw, i don't know where the grub stage 2 files are kept.
[08:42] <LEGEND> I have four operating systems currently on grub: Windows XP, Windows 7, Backtrack and Ubuntu 11.04.
[08:42] <max__> morgen
[08:43] <LEGEND> And i assume that partition info is kept on /dev/sda
[08:43] <marko-_-> does ubuntu know of any gui program that lets me sync data on my portable HD? What i want it to do is when i plug in my HD it automaticly copies some files from the pc on to the hd
[08:43] <LEGEND> So if touch /dev/sda7, would i be good to go?
[08:44] <iceroot_> LEGEND: yes
[08:44] <iceroot_> LEGEND: remove the partitons you dont need anymore and use that free space for the new installation
[08:44] <LEGEND> thanks
[08:48] <wiehan> Ok, ubuntu/nautilus/samba thinks it's really cool to have stored my samba credentials for a network share, but now because of that it says "Permission denied" when I try to access said share, I really really really need  a way to clear all stored samba credentials... I have tried the google.,
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> wiehan: tried 'passwords' in Dash?
[08:51] <wiehan> ActionParsnip, yup.. there's only stored chrome passwords in there
[08:52] <utterglee> hello folks
[08:52] <utterglee> I want to push to my server
[08:52] <utterglee> git-push
[08:52] <utterglee> I've set up ssh and can login to the server
[08:52] <utterglee> but all combinations I've tried for the git-remote URL have failed so far
[08:53] <utterglee> git remote server username@dev.server.com:/var/www/dev-repo.git
[08:53] <utterglee> and so on
[08:53] <utterglee> what's the right URL format? I've googled but can't find the precise info
[08:54] <nbros652> does anyone know of a command that would let me take a screenshot at set intervals of a remote computer running a VNC server to be saved as a simple graphic?
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> wiehan: seems to be handled by the gnome-keyring-daemon
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> nbros652: you can do it using ssh
[08:55] <wiehan> ActionParsnip, how do I clear the gnome-keyring-daemon
[08:55] <nbros652> ActionParsnip: strictly ssh or ssh and another program?
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> nbros652: You can then run a bash loop to run: DISPLAY=:0.0 import -window root /tmp/shot1.png     you will need imagemagick installing
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> nbros652: simple bash loop to increment the number if needed
[08:57] <InFlames> how can i reassign my root partition to another partition on the same drive?
[08:57] <nbros652> ActionParsnip: thanks. that's exactly what I needed.
[08:57] <InFlames> my original partition was too small, and resizing it required moving the entire /home, so i decided to simply move it after /home
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> wiehan: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65281/how-to-recover-reset-forgotten-gnome-keyring-password   it'll removed stored credentials for the other stuff you have stored from Nautilus etc
[08:58] <nbros652> ActionParsnip: increment is not necessary... It's going in a conky script so I can see the status of a remote computer.
[08:58] <DJones> InFlames: http://askubuntu.com/questions/3402/how-to-move-boot-and-root-partitions-to-another-drive
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> nbros652: nice, then the image can stay the same :)
[08:59] <InFlames> thanks DJones
[08:59] <DJones> InFlames: This is a bit more detailed on how to move a partition https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MovingLinuxPartition
[08:59] <InFlames> i need to update fstab and grub
[09:00] <InFlames> yea, thanks
[09:00] <marko-_-> I am looking for a solution for copying all the files from a specific directory on the hard drive, to a specific directory on a USB memory device, once this device is connected.I am using ubuntu 13.04
[09:00] <InFlames> now to determine if it's grub 1 or 2
[09:01] <Wezyke> Ola bruda
[09:01] <Wezyke> Ola ikonia bruda
[09:01] <InFlames> marko-_-, automatically?
[09:02] <marko-_-> InFlames, yes
[09:02] <InFlames> i only know you can do that manually with dd
[09:02] <marko-_-> i mean
[09:03] <marko-_-> i bought my portable hdd because of that
[09:03] <pneftali> hi guys - any other recommendations on ways to install apache 2 in ubuntu 12.04 64bit box ? is apt-get install apache2 the only way to do it ?
[09:03] <marko-_-> i want to use it as a backup which automaticly transfers what i pre-selected to it
[09:03] <k1l> pneftali: that is the supported way, yes
[09:03] <InFlames> you could use some 3rd party gui tools if you like
[09:03] <InFlames> like crashplan, might make life easier
[09:03] <InFlames> a bit more bloated though
[09:04] <k1l> marko-_-: what about the backup programs like dejadub?
[09:04] <pneftali> k1l: are they any other ways besides that ?
[09:05] <greyhatpython> hey guys i can access share folder from other computer via Samba but my share folder is not accessible to others, i have given full permission. What might be the problem?
[09:05] <llutz> marko-_-: google for "udev rule backup", there should be a solution for that in the wiki
[09:05] <k1l> pneftali: there are, but 1. why do you want that, 2. that is not recommended and not supported in here
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> greyhatpython: what OS is the server? What OS is the client?
[09:05] <marko-_-> llutz, thanks
[09:05] <greyhatpython> Ubuntu 13.04
[09:05] <greyhatpython> both are Ubuntu
[09:06] <llutz> marko-_-: basic idea: you write an udev-rule which will call a backup-script when a special usb-device is plugged in
[09:06] <Left_Turn> what do i open pdfs with.. the default
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> greyhatpython: what do yo usee when you access the share?
[09:06] <marko-_-> llutz, yeah this makes sense, thanks. But i really thought this was everyday work
[09:06] <marko-_-> so i thought it was just a few clicks
[09:06] <marko-_-> in the gui
[09:07] <marko-_-> to get it working
[09:07] <DJones> Left_Turn: As far as I know, the default pdf viewer is Evince
[09:08] <Left_Turn> ok thank DJones
[09:08] <llutz> marko-_-: there might be GUI-solutions, but i don't know any (i'm not much of a GUI-guy).
[09:09] <greyhatpython> ActionParsnip: I press Alt + F2 and type smb://ip address it shows "OOPS! Something went wrong. Unhandled error message: Failed to retrieve share list from server: connection timed out
[09:09] <marko-_-> llutz, thanks
[09:10] <quackgyver> I just installed Ubuntu and can't get my Terminal window to overlap the sidebar
[09:10] <quackgyver> how can I fix this?
[09:10] <k1l> greyhatpython: im not sure its ment to work that way. i think you need to start nautilis first and then give it the smb url
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> greyhatpython: try from nautilus
[09:12] <greyhatpython> Well nautilus will keep on searching... but no results
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> quackgyver: if you use terminal a lot, I can recommend guake (or yakuake if you use KDE)
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> greyhatpython: type the servername and the share name in the details box.
[09:12] <greyhatpython> The error message is also from nautilus
[09:14] <pneftali> k1l: okay thanks.. i thought there's a better way than that..
[09:14] <k1l> pneftali: what should be "better"?
[09:14] <pneftali> k1l: like you can configure options to make it more secure etc...
[09:15] <pneftali> so securing apache2 is done after installation i suppose
[09:15] <k1l> pneftali: yes
[09:16] <pneftali> k1l: gotcha
[09:18] <quackgyver> ActionParsnip: Does that solve my issue?
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> quackgyver: it will go over the Unity launcher bar...
[09:22] <trijntje> Is there a way to get older daily builds of saucy? I need to investigate a kernel panic that only triggers while updating, so I need an old image to start from
[09:22] <quackgyver> Ok, will consider that. However, I'd prefer to use the native terminal. Is there any way to make Unity not overlap applications when applications are maximized?
[09:23] <quackgyver> Oh, maybe it doesn't.
[09:23] <quackgyver> Weird.
[09:25] <somsip> !13.10 | trijntje
[09:25] <quackgyver> wtf, file manager crashed
[09:25] <quackgyver> 5 minutes into a fresh installation
[09:25] <quackgyver> a quality os shouldn't do this
[09:26] <lesshaste_>  sudo apt-get update
[09:26] <lesshaste_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:26] <lesshaste_> what can I do about that?
[09:26] <vijacdblz> anyone using nvidia gtx-540m
[09:27] <trijntje> quackgyver, you were using the file manager during installation?
[09:28] <quackgyver> trijntje: No afterwards. I booted into desktop, updated, upgraded then tried to unpack an archive
[09:28] <vijacdblz> @lesshaste try this   sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[09:28] <quackgyver> and it crashed
[09:28] <k1l> lesshaste_: close all programs that use the packages system like softwarecenter, updates-program, etc
[09:29] <lesshaste_> k1l, I can't see any open!
[09:29] <lesshaste_> vijacdblz, thanks!
[09:29] <vijacdblz> you are welcome :)
[09:29] <trijntje> quackgyver, if it is reproducable, please file a bug. Also, you can set the unity launcher to autohide if you want to use the full screen
[09:30] <quackgyver> I just submitted a report via the crash dialogue box.
[09:30] <quackgyver> And yeah I know it can autohide, but I prefer to have it visible as long as an app isnt fullscreen
[09:30] <quackgyver> But yeah, it's not a huge issue.
[09:31] <trijntje> there used to be an option to do that, intellihide. Which version of ubuntu are you using?
[09:31] <quackgyver> The latest non-LTS desktop version
[09:31] <quackgyver> downloaded it yesterday
[09:32] <greyhatpython> Tried all the steps mentioned in this link but still didn't work: http://askubuntu.com/questions/74789/failed-to-retrieve-share-list-from-server-error-when-browsing-a-share-with-nau
[09:32] <trijntje> quackgyver, I think that option was removed from the settings, I cant find it now
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> quackgyver: it is the native terminal in functionality, you can show and hide it with a shortcut key (F12 by default)
[09:33] <quackgyver>  trijntje That's a shasme.
[09:34] <quackgyver> ActionParsnip: I'm using a keyboard where F keys are alt, so that'd be really annoying for me. I think the most logical approach is to show the application bar when applications aren't maximized, and hide it if the user tries to maximize
[09:34] <quackgyver> in which case autohide would be an okay solution
[09:34] <quackgyver> So this is what I'd like to have, if possilbe
[09:34] <quackgyver> possible*
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> quackgyver: its changable, the default is not hard coded
[09:38] <quackgyver> Cool.
[09:39] <sirstonius> just installed xubuntu.. cannot lock my laptop mousepad now.. any ideas?
[09:40] <trijntje> quackgyver, go to appearances -> behaviour
[09:42] <Hexagonite> What's the best 'bs=M' for 'dd'-ing a Xubuntu ISO?
[09:44] <Hexagonite> Nevermind, 8M.
[09:45] <MuZe> Hi, i'm currently using window's 7, and i'm primarily a gamer, and i'v heard alot of good things about linux/ubuntu, i was wondering if i could switch to ubuntu, for gaming? would this work? could i play the games i play on my pc now, on ubuntu? etc.
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> hexdepends on the device, there is no single best or it would be the default for everything
[09:46] <quackgyver> trijntje: Thanks. :-)
[09:46] <blz> MuZe, you'll be globally disappointed with gaming under ubuntu (although things are getting better)
[09:46] <vijacdblz> sirstonius, what model?
[09:46] <blz> MuZe, but you can very easily set up a dual-boot system if you're curious about ubuntu
[09:46] <MuZe> is there anyway i can use linux for gaming? i wanna switch from windows. :(
[09:46] <MuZe> i heard ubuntu is more safe & security etc etc & faster
[09:47] <vijacdblz> MuZe, what graphics card?
[09:47] <sirstonius> vijacdblz, hp envy m6 i believe
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> MuZe: depends on the game
[09:47] <MuZe> Nvidia GeForce GTX 670, 4GB Overclocked
[09:47] <blz> MuZe, I just answered your question...
[09:47] <blz> MuZe, but steam is available for linux now
[09:48] <blz> MuZe, just don't expect every (or even most) games to work
[09:48] <MuZe> alright thanks blz, btw i heard something about ''Wine'' which can run windows applications, could this not work for gaming?
[09:48] <vijacdblz> MuZe, expect powermizer setting always clocking to max after installing nvidia driver, Not good for battery..
[09:48] <blz> MuZe, you *can*, but again you'll probably be disappointed
[09:48] <blz> MuZe, older games will probably work well
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> MuZe: yes but again, depends on the game
[09:49] <blz> MuZe, I play BroodWar on wine quite often
[09:49] <blz> MuZe, but it really depends on the game
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> MuZe: some games run well, some run beter than in windows, some wont even install
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | MuZe
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> MuZe: some games are native and run with Linux binaries
[09:49] <blz> MuZe, you should look at WineHQ.  It's a database of software that runs on wine, along with ratings for how well it runs
[09:52] <MuZe> btw the games im talking about, are the ''latest'' games
[09:52] <MuZe> soo, i guess maybe not
[09:52] <MuZe> :'(
[09:52] <zimbo> i can see that there is a webserver running when i nmap localhost or type http://localhost in my browser. how can i find out which webserver it is and remove it? when i try to apt-get remove apache it says apache isn't installed
[09:52] <MuZe> and btw iv got a Desktop btw
[09:52] <MuZe> pc*
[09:52] <llutz> zimbo: sudo lsof -i :80
[09:53] <blz> MuZe, yeah, linux might not be for you
[09:53] <blz> MuZe, but again, dual-booting is trivially easy with the graphical installer
[09:55] <MuZe> how do i go about this ''Dual-booting'' option, got any links for a tutorial etc?
[09:55] <nice_haze> hello, I had ubuntu 12.04 only on my device, I shrinked partition, to get 200 gb for windows
[09:56] <nice_haze> installed windows on those 200 gb
[09:56] <blz> MuZe, download an ubuntu .iso image and burn it to a cd (or stick it on a usb key.  The ubuntu website has details).  Then, boot from that medium and the graphical installer will walk you through it.  A drunk 3-year-old could do it.
[09:56] <nice_haze> and now It doesn't loads GRUB boot loader
[09:56] <DenBeiren> nice_haze: always install windows first,.. bunt after
[09:56] <blz> nice_haze, yes, that's because windows has overwritten the bootloader.  You just have to boot from a livecd and reinstall grub
[09:57] <blz> nice_haze, after that you should be fine.  Google will guide you through the steps (as I can't recall them exactly... but it's like one or two commands)
[09:57] <zimbo> llutz: it's apache2 how can i remove it
[09:57] <llutz> zimbo: sudo apt-get purge apache2
[09:57] <nice_haze> how to reinstall grub, cause I don't want to loose any files
[09:57] <nice_haze> or software
[09:58] <blz> nice_haze, see my answer
[09:58] <zimbo> llutz: it says apache2 is not installed
[09:58] <nice_haze> how to blz?
[09:58] <blz> nice_haze, boot into a live cd.  Google "reinstall grub" and you'll find your answer
[09:58] <llutz> zimbo: dpkg -l|grep apache            check the list, remove the packages
[09:59] <nice_haze> + I don't have network card working in windows
[09:59] <blz> then use whatever you're using to connect to IRC ...
[09:59] <blz> nice_haze, clearly you're on the internet...
[09:59] <zimbo> llutz: thanks
[09:59] <nice_haze> blz, doh
[10:00] <nice_haze> sudo grub sudo: grub: command not found
[10:00] <blz> nice_haze, JFGI
[10:01] <nice_haze> The program 'grub' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install grub
[10:01] <blz> nice_haze, why are you hell-bent on not googling "reinstall grub" ?
[10:01] <DJones> !google | blz
[10:02] <blz> DJones, following the conversation is typically recommended as well.  I told him exactly what to look for
[10:02] <nice_haze> I am not a newbie, but you seriously think with your googles
[10:02] <Hexagonite> Need help; I made a Ubuntu USB drive using DD and I wanted to format it now; I opened GParted and it popped-up 'The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes', what does that mean?
[10:02] <blz> nice_haze, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=reinstall+grub
[10:02] <DJones> blz: It may be, but please don't tell people to google, its not considered appropriate in the Ubuntu channels
[10:03] <Hexagonite> The USB's size is now also 15GB when the USB is really only 4GB
[10:03] <blz> DJones, sure it is.  "Google 'reinstall grub' and you'll find your answer to your problem" is absolutely appropriate
[10:03] <blz> But here's a link anyway:  http://lmgtfy.com/?q=reinstall+grub
[10:03] <VictorCL> hi
[10:04] <VictorCL> can anyone tell me what does  useradd -g www-data -d /dev/null -s /etc ftpuser    that /etc does ?
[10:04] <DJones> blz: No its not, If you find a link thats appropriate, then give the link rather than saying google it
[10:04] <VictorCL> is it the home folder of the user?
[10:04] <garthk> Having already tried all the solutions on askubuntu.com: anyone know why I'm getting this "signatures were invalid" error trying to use the basho.com APT? W: GPG error: http://apt.basho.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG F933E597DDF2E833 Basho Technologies (Debian / Ubuntu signing key) <packager@basho.com>
[10:04] <llutz> VictorCL: man useradd (-s shell), /etc makes no sense to me there
[10:05] <garthk> Failed "solutions" included all these: http://askubuntu.com/questions/1877/what-is-the-easiest-way-to-resolve-apt-get-badsig-gpg-errors
[10:05] <garthk> In short, I've tried re-getting the key and blowing away /var/lib/apt/lists.
[10:05] <blz> DJones, no the issue with google is that, as mentioned in the bot's message, user's google-fu is sometimes lacking.  This is understandable.  Suggesting search terms is immensely helpful and doesn't hinder them in any way
[10:05] <blz> DJones, the issue here is when somebody won't lift a finger to solve their own problem.  I'm willing to help, but I'm busy as well
[10:11] <MxScout> join #pad
[10:16] <babinlonston> Hi
[10:16] <babinlonston> cant remove fail2ban .. im now in root and using apt-get remove fail2ban ... but still the configuration files are there
[10:16] <babinlonston> even i have used apt-get purge fail2ban
[10:17] <babinlonston> apt-get autoclean also done but still the fail2ban there and i cant uninstall it
[10:17] <babinlonston> histo: u there
[10:18] <llutz> babinlonston: sudo aptitude purge '~c'
[10:18] <apoz> how can i encrypt my home directory? which tutorial should i follow? is it better to encrypt just the home or the whole hard drive?
[10:19] <babinlonston> llutz: oh u man done :)
[10:20] <babinlonston> llutz:  when ever im installing fail2ban its gives me error not starting .. im using ubuntu 12.04 server ,
[10:20] <somsip> babinlonston: if you amend anything, they won't get removed. Just sudo rm -rf /etc/fail2ban
[10:21] <babinlonston> somsip: did it after that only i faced and now its cleared as llutz instruction
[10:21] <babinlonston> guide me to get ride of fail2ban
[10:21] <ss_haze> I was here as nice_haze
[10:21] <ss_haze> I got grub back
[10:22] <ss_haze> but it's weird cause on windows I don't get internet working
[10:22] <ss_haze> asus k35e drivers finding on google
[10:22] <llutz> ss_haze: /join ##windows
[10:23] <Semen_Dickman> YOOO WAZZUP PPLLLL
[10:31] <nick878> How would I stream a file to the standard input of an executable?
[10:32] <apoz> cat file | exefile
[10:32] <nick878> so cat is not just for ascii?
[10:33] <llutz> have fun with catting a mp3
[10:33] <llutz> nick878: the answer depends on your executable
[10:33] <nick878> my executable is ent
[10:33] <nick878> it does tests to see how random binary data is
[10:34] <nick878> @llutz
[10:34] <llutz> nick878: ent file           doesn't work?
[10:34] <nick878> llutz: It does work, but I need to run ent on separate blocks of my file
[10:34] <llutz> nick878: dd if=file -|ent
[10:35] <llutz> nick878: maybe "dd if=file -|ent -"  depends
[10:35] <nick878> llutz: awesome, thanks. So what does the - do?
[10:36] <llutz> nick878: dd writes to stdout (-), ent reads it
[10:36] <nick878> llutz: ok, got it. i suppose i choose which block by providing options to dd
[10:37] <llutz> nick878: yes, bs=, skip= count=  should be the options you need
[10:38] <ak5> hi guys what are the security repos for?
[10:40] <Deepfriedice> ak5, Security updates?
[10:41] <ActionPa1snip> ak5: http://bethesignal.org/blog/2008/03/31/understanding-the-ubuntu-package-repositories/
[10:41] <DJones> ak5: As far as I know, they contain patches for security vulnerabilities rather than updating the complete package in the normal repo's
[10:41] <k1l> ak5: Patches for security vulnerabilities in Ubuntu packages. They are managed by the Ubuntu Security Team and are designed to change the behavior of the package as little as possible -- in fact, the minimum required to resolve the security problem. As a result, they tend to be very low-risk to apply and all users are urged to apply security updates.
[10:42] <Joanet> Hi all! how can I share a folder in ubuntu 12.04 to other ubuntu machines?
[10:43] <Joanet> only using smb?
[10:43] <nick878> llutz: thanks again (belayed)
[10:45] <karthik__> how to display hidden files in current directory using ls command?
[10:46] <k1l> karthik__: take a look at -a
[10:50] <zykotick9> Joanet: NFS is the historic standard for sharing between *nix boxes
[10:53] <HypnotiX> Is there any software that integrates into the shell a command that can open the current folder location in the terminal? for example i right click in a folder and select open in terminal
[10:54] <Joanet> zykotick9: thanks
[10:54] <ActionPa1snip> HypnotiX: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> HypnotiX  you mean in nautilus? there's nautilus-scripts
[10:54] <zykotick9> HypnotiX: see if nautilus-open-terminal is available / still works???
[10:54] <HypnotiX> in the file browser
[10:54] <ActionPa1snip> !info nautilus-open-terminal
[10:55] <HypnotiX> ActionPa1snip: Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[10:55] <ActionPa1snip> HypnotiX: you will need to restart nautilus to take effect (or log off and on)
[10:57] <ActionPa1snip> HypnotiX: I believe it is:   nautilus -q    (might be -k, see man page) to restart it in the same session
[10:58] <HypnotiX> ok i have the command now thanx :)
[11:02] <andend_> Hi
[11:02] <Left_Tur1> is it ok to read a linux guide from 1983.. or is this too outdated?
[11:02] <ActionPa1snip> Left_Tur1: depends what it is for
[11:03] <Left_Tur1> normal usage and also programming ActionPa1snip
[11:03] <Left_Tur1> shell usgae
[11:05] <ActionPa1snip> Left_Tur1: should be ok, some stuff may have changed subtly
[11:06] <Left_Tur1> oh ok great. thanks:)
[11:11] <robertzaccour> Is it possible to partition a small part of my hard drive for mounting .iso files for booting into live session?
[11:13] <ActionPa1snip> robertzaccour: you could have a small partition to hold the ISO and tell Grub2 to boot from the ISO
[11:13] <robertzaccour> ActionPa1snip: Is that easy to do?
[11:13] <Ben64> i don't even think you need a small partition for it
[11:13] <jrib> robertzaccour: do you need a separate partition? Are you sure you can't just ask to boot from an iso sitting anywhere?
[11:14] <robertzaccour> jrib: I don't even know. I'm just wondering about it in case I wanna boot an iso and don't have a usb flash or dvd handy.
[11:15] <ActionPa1snip> robertzaccour: not had to do it, but I know Grub2 can boot ISO files
[11:15] <kohvihoor> robertzaccour: you can find some info about doing this here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot/Examples
[11:15] <axgb> What command would I use to convert a whole folder and the subfolders of music from mp3 to ogg, with FFMPEG
[11:16] <ActionPa1snip> axgb: converting from one lossy type to another lossy type will reduce quality
[11:16] <Ben64> axgb: why not oggenc? and you can use xargs and find, or a while loop in bash
[11:16] <robertzaccour> looks complicated
[11:17] <ActionPa1snip> axgb: http://askubuntu.com/questions/147944/bulk-batch-convert-mp3-files-to-ogg-via-command-line
[11:17] <axgb> I'm not sure which format would be best, I want it to be a free format
[11:17] <ZIPY> press F13 and see what happens...
[11:18] <Ben64> ActionPa1snip is right though axgb, you should go to ogg directly from the source if possible
[11:18] <k1l> ZIPY: be helpfull in this channel, thanks
[11:18] <axgb> What is the purpose of lossy?
[11:19] <garthk> ActionPa1snip: everyone cites your answers on this kind of errorŌĆ” but flushing out /var/lib/apt/lists et al isn't helping in my case. Any ideas? W: GPG error: http://apt.basho.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG F933E597DDF2E833 Basho Technologies (Debian / Ubuntu signing key) <packager@basho.com>
[11:20] <john87> can some one explain the reason for "sudo"
[11:20] <k1l> !sudo | john87
[11:20] <garthk> john87: it forces admins to spend most of their time as normal users, and escalate to root only as necessary. When they do so, their actions are logged. It's also possible to restrict certain users to certain superuser actions.
[11:21] <k1l> john87: you dont need to be root all the time. think of it running with a unlocked gun. most beginners will break stuff with it. so be a user and get root-rights wenn needed
[11:21] <ActionPa1snip> garthk: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com F933E597DDF2E833
[11:22] <john87> k1l: but is it the same as "su root" ?
[11:22] <k1l> john87: not the same, but it has the same effect: you can give commands the root rights
[11:22] <garthk> ActionPa1snip: this is a fresh precise clone, using the same entry in sources.list.dŌĆ” yep. Checked the key. Thrown it out and fetched it again, both directly from Basho and from the key server. Still getting BADSIG on apt-get update.
[11:23] <john87> k1l: oh okay thanks
[11:23] <ActionPa1snip> garthk: http://docs.basho.com/riak/latest/ops/building/installing/debian-ubuntu/    also shows how to import the key...on their own page....imagine
[11:23] <garthk> ActionPa1snip: yep. And, I've done that. And, I'm still getting BADSIG.
[11:23] <ranko> A silly question: can any please tell me how to apply this patch? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/blktap-dkms/2.0.91-1ubuntu0.1
[11:24] <thelames1> can i transparently remount / to turn on ACLs? not disrupting anything on production
[11:24] <ActionPa1snip> thelames1: sudo mount -o rw,remount /
[11:25] <thelames1> thanks!
[11:25] <ActionPa1snip> garthk: tried my fixpackage script?
[11:25] <john87> one more question, what dose it mean when "packages cannot be authenticated"?
[11:25] <ActionPa1snip> john87: you added a PPA and not the GPG key for it
[11:25] <john87> is that hard to add?
[11:26] <garthk> ActionPa1snip: nope. I have tried your 2012-04-19 advice from here, though: v
[11:26] <garthk> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+question/194077
[11:26] <john87> n
[11:27] <ActionPa1snip> john87: once you run:  sudo apt-get update     you will see a 16 hex character code, what is it?
[11:27] <ActionPa1snip> john87: you can then run:  sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver CODEHERE     and import the key
[11:27] <garthk> ActionPa1snip: found; runningŌĆ”
[11:28] <ActionPa1snip> garthk: sweet
[11:28] <ActionPa1snip> garthk: its the commands from the synaptic fix broken packages commands, in a script cos I'm lazy
[11:28] <garthk> ActionPa1snip: ŌĆ” and, nope. Still getting BADSIG. To what degree is that possible because of what I'm getting back from http://apt.basho.com rather than some kind of local filesystem cruft?
[11:29] <ActionPa1snip> garthk: plus dropbox makes it easy to distribute
[11:29] <ActionPa1snip> garthk: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[11:29] <garthk> ActionPa1snip: that's the one I ran.
[11:30] <garthk> ŌĆ” and the proxy work-arounds don't help, either: sudo aptitude -o Acquire::http::No-Cache=True -o Acquire::BrokenProxy=true update
[11:31] <ActionPa1snip> john87: su root won't work in Ubuntu by default
[11:32] <garthk> Aha! Finally found someone else with the problem: http://riak-users.197444.n3.nabble.com/GPG-error-in-Apt-td4028731.html
[11:32] <coachie96> I'm a Ubuntu beginner and I have a serious problem after the use of an external screen, anybody got time to give some advice?
[11:33] <sina2> Hey. One of my friends has made something wrong by typing  typing ŌĆ£chmod  744 /...ŌĆØ. he's not sure about the path. Is it anyway to restore the mount options to default for whole system ?
[11:33] <john87> i accidentally did "dpkg --archetecture-add l386" and now it looks for l386 instead of i386
[11:33] <quackgyver> coachie96: Just ask the question instead of asking to ask. Imagine all the people coming here for advice, and having to tell them it's OK to ask before getting to the problem. It would be twice as many messages in the channel. :-)
[11:33] <qualia> hi, i just upgraded to 13.04 from 12.10 and my touchpad sensitivity has changed... ideas ?
[11:33] <quackgyver> Go for it.
[11:34] <john87> and "dpkg --remove-architecture l386" dose not remove it
[11:34] <ActionPa1snip> garthk: tried: curl http://apt.basho.com/gpg/basho.apt.key | sudo apt-key add -
[11:34] <Lope> anyone here running dropbox?
[11:34] <Lope> is it best to run the dropbox installer or find some repo and let apt manage it?
[11:34] <k1l> Lope: alot users do, and now?
[11:35] <garthk> ActionPa1snip: yes. About eight times, now. (I don't know why I keep doing it. It's a bit like the way developers keep pulling up directory listings while thinking, I guess.)
[11:35] <coachie96> I just installed ubuntu 12.04 and checked whether I can set up my external screen to it. It worked. However, I couldnt get back to the laptop screen afterwards. So now I'm stuck with two black screens. Can't start my laptop anymore. Well, it starts but doesn't give my anything on the screen, nor does the external one. Im really at a loss here
[11:36] <terretz>  /join #/r/nyc
[11:36] <k1l> Lope: install nautilus-dropbox?
[11:37] <quackgyver> coachie96: What's your GFX card?
[11:37] <john87> dpkg: warning: cannot remove non-foreign architecture 'l386'
[11:37] <OerHeks> john87, there  is no architecture l386, so there is nothing installed, proceed with "dpkg --archetecture-add i386"
[11:38] <jrib> john87: 'i' not 'l'
[11:38] <OerHeks> john87, error: try dpkg --architecture-add l386
[11:38] <john87> i am aware that l386 dose not exist, but it added it anyway and now my apt looks for it xD
[11:38] <OerHeks> archetecture is a typo
[11:39] <OerHeks> john87, no it doesn't. archetecture is not a command/option
[11:39] <quackgyver> coachie96: 1) Where is your computer from? 2) Is there a sticker on it describing the hardware details?
[11:39] <coachie96> it's an Asus eeePC 1005HA bought three years ago in Germany
[11:40] <quackgyver> Are you from germany?
[11:40] <coachie96> I can't even enter the BIOS anymore
[11:40] <coachie96> yes
[11:40] <quackgyver> Cool.
[11:40] <quackgyver> What happens when you turn the computer on?
[11:41] <quackgyver> Do you see anything at all?
[11:41] <coachie96> no, blank screen
[11:41] <quackgyver> coachie96: http://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/Eee_PC_1005HA_Seashell/ <-- Is this the one?
[11:41] <john87> apt-get update looks for  L386 packages lol
[11:42] <john87> how do i fix that
[11:42] <coachie96> yeah, thats it
[11:42] <jrib> john87: dpkg --remove-architecture l386
[11:43] <jrib> john87: or L386 if you used 'L'.  You keep switching
[11:43] <john87> it says i cant remove it
[11:43] <quackgyver> coachie96: Do you know if you have 1005HA or any of the later versions, like 1005HA-B?
[11:43] <jrib> john87: pastebin full input and output
[11:44] <napsc> if i create an alias such as update='sudo apt-get update', is it possible to edit sudoers file to skip password by creating a command alias in sudoer file that references that bash alias and then reference that command alias with: <user> ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: <command alias>
[11:44] <coachie96> next thing I tried was to reinstall from an external drive, same result, no screen
[11:44] <coachie96> it says 1005HA on the sticker
[11:44] <john87> http://pastebin.com/PujSwK2W
[11:44] <coachie96> doesnt say "seashell" though
[11:45] <jrib> john87: dpkg --print-foreign-architectures; cat /var/lib/dpkg/arch
[11:45] <teamhks> hello
[11:46] <john87> ok http://pastebin.com/KfFBXLjw
[11:46] <jrib> john87: now read what you've pastebinned and consider investing in better fonts ;)
[11:46] <john87> oh wow
[11:47] <k1l> john87: its 1368 and not l368
[11:48] <john87> yeah i figured that out just now
[11:48] <phong_> hi
[11:48] <ActionPa1snip> garthk: its not a bad thing to not have the key, but the package system wil just moan
[11:50] <garthk> ActionPa1snip: quite. I'm grabbing the package from their front page and installing it manually while I find out what's going on.
[11:52] <ActionPa1snip> garthk: you can still use apt-get as yuo have the PPA added, you will just get a warning which you will need to say OK to
[11:52] <Lope> the nautilus-dropbox is a bit of a con. they tell you its open source and as soon as you get it they tell you you must download their proprietary daemon.
[11:52] <ddssc> anyone else using avg antivirus here?
[11:53] <k1l> Lope: dropbox is prop, there is no way around if you want to use dropbox
[11:54] <garthk> ActionPa1snip: yep. Thanks anyway. :)
[11:54] <ddssc> using avg on ubuntu and it's taking up 800 megs of memory....
[11:54] <ddssc> seriously wtf
[11:55] <auronandace> ddssc: for the most part antivirus isn't really necessary on linux
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> !av
[11:55] <coachie96> quackgyver: I do have the big screen up again now, but it just wont switch back to the original laptop screen
[11:55] <zimbo> trying to burn an .iso using braserio, stuck at the beggining for over ten minutes with "Please wait until the estimation of the size is completed." and no progress in the progress bar
[11:55] <ddssc> auronandace: yes it is. I could forward malware to non linux computers in my network and not know it.
[11:55] <zimbo> of that window, the one saying it is estimating the size
[11:56] <zimbo> ?
[11:56] <quackgyver> coachie96: give me a sec to do some research
[11:56] <coachie96> sure
[11:56] <quackgyver> coachie96: Do you have the package?
[11:56] <quackgyver> Did you buy it just now?
[11:56] <zimbo> "All files need to be analysed to complete this operation." there's no indication thought that it's doing anything. is that how it is?
[11:56] <ActionPa1snip> ddssc: try something like clamav or similar. You only need AV if you run a file server with Windows clients (to save them from each other) or a mailserver etc etc.
[11:57] <coachie96> what do you mean by "the package"
[11:57] <ActionPa1snip> zimbo: there should be a button to skip estimating
[11:57] <coachie96> the laptop is over three years old, ran on Windows XP until today, just made the switch to ubuntu, so no, i dont have the original packaging
[11:57] <ActionPa1snip> zimbo: I recommend you try xfburn, ive personally never had a success with brassero
[11:58] <zimbo> ActionPa1snip: only a cancel button, which closes
[11:58] <zimbo> ActionPa1snip: okay thanks i'm installing freebsd, need a real os lol
[11:58] <lkthomas> hey guys
[11:58] <quackgyver> coachie96: Ok, PM me.
[11:58] <quackgyver> ;)
[11:58] <zimbo> ActionPa1snip: i'll try xfburn
[11:58] <lkthomas> does anyone connect ubuntu to ldap server ?
[11:59] <ActionPa1snip> zimbo: pcbsd is a little friendlier, its like the ubuntu of the bsd world :)
[12:00] <zimbo> ActionPa1snip:  yes but i want something light so i can only install exactly what i need
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> zimbo  then there's mini ubuntu
[12:01] <elimik> my brother has this problem with ubuntu. in firefox, if he wants to go back one page, he uses the "backspace" key, but under ubuntu it is "alt + left". I am fine with it, but my brother is used to windows. how can he change the hotkey back to "backspace" like under windows?
[12:01] <vishnu_> anyone knows download link for django1.7
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> !find django
[12:01] <zimbo> MonkeyDust: mini ubuntu, i'll check it out thanks
[12:02] <ActionPa1snip> zimbo: ubuntu mini ISO will install a tiny OS and you can build up frm there. My favourite is mini iso + openbox + xdm + tint2 :)
[12:02] <burlap> Hello How Can I , Please Install A Desktop Wallpaper ? :/
[12:03] <ActionPa1snip> burlap: right click desktop.... or in system settings cog in top right
[12:03] <burlap> thx :))
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> burlap  right click on the desktop, select Change Desktop Background
[12:04] <ActionPa1snip> too obvious? Its the same in Windows
[12:04] <vishnu_> buddy will u help me , i am now reading. documentation of django 1.7 to further lesson i needed 1.7 version i am currently working on 1.3 please
[12:05] <ZIPY> is that a movie?
[12:05] <vishnu_> any one has download link
[12:05] <ikillcypher> hi guys my date/month/year at the taskbar is in different lang
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> burlap  keep it in the channel please
[12:06] <burlap> Ok.
[12:06] <DJones> vishnu_: django 1.7 isn't included in Ubuntu as far as I can see, you could look for a ppa to see ifs available, otherwise you may need to look at their own website for support
[12:06] <ikillcypher> hi guys my date/month/year at the taskbar is in different lang??
[12:06] <ikillcypher> any idea
[12:06] <DJones> !ppa | vishnu_ Be aware that ppa's aren't supported in this channel,
[12:07] <ikillcypher> any idea????
[12:07] <ikillcypher> hi guys my date/month/year at the taskbar is in different lang??
[12:08] <DJones> ikillcypher: No need to repeat so often, maybe every 5 minutes would be better to give people in the channel time to connect
[12:08] <k1l> !patience | ikillcypher you know the rules already
[12:08] <ikillcypher> :'(
[12:09] <DJones> ikillcypher: I'm not on Ubuntu at the minute so can't check settings, but it may be worth checking your language/data/time options in system settings, there might be something obvious in there
[12:09] <kohvihoor> ikillcypher: are your regional settings correct?
[12:10] <ikillcypher> meaning
[12:12] <NikP> Hey Guys!
[12:12] <kohvihoor> ikillcypher: maybe this will help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/265753/how-to-change-date-time-format-to-english-in-ubuntu-13-04
[12:13] <ikillcypher> ty
[12:34] <karthik__> how to send folder local to remote system
[12:34] <limebuster> ubuntu is so beautiful
[12:34] <limebuster> wish i could use it
[12:35] <anders__> karthik__: Right click, share folder would be one way.
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> limebuster  what goes wrong when you try
[12:35] <limebuster> too much to learn
[12:35] <limebuster> i mean i dont even know how to install an app
[12:35] <limebuster> other than the app store
[12:36] <anders__> limebuster: sudo apt-get install <application>
[12:36] <limebuster> why dont ubuntu guys make it easy
[12:36] <limebuster> so i drag the app to terminal?
[12:36] <karthik__> how to send folder local to remote system using scp
[12:36] <anders__> limebuster: Is it a .deb file?
[12:36] <DJones> limebuster: Using software centre is the recommended method of installing software, it doesn't get much easier than that
[12:37] <limebuster> no andres
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> limebuster  what's easier than the software center?
[12:37] <limebuster> nothing monkey
[12:37] <limebuster> but not eveything is there
[12:37] <ActionPa1snip> MonkeyDust: apt-fast :)
[12:38] <Pici> karthik__: scp -r folder user@remotesystem:/path/to/dest
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> limebuster  maybe you have to activate additional sources, universe, 3rd party ...
[12:38] <DJones> limebuster: What software is it you're trying to install?
[12:38] <ZIPY> karthik__: scp userx@server1:/pathtofolderorfile usery@server2: /pathtofolderorfile
[12:38] <ActionPa1snip> limebuster: what are you wanting to drag to the terminal?
[12:39] <ActionPa1snip> limebuster: in your 'ideal world'?
[12:39] <limebuster> 15:36 anders__: limebuster: sudo apt-get install <application>
[12:39] <limebuster> do i drag the app to (application)<<
[12:39] <limebuster> or what
[12:39] <limebuster> im a complete noob guys
[12:40] <DJones> limebuster: What are you trying to install
[12:40] <limebuster> vlc lets say
[12:40] <anders__> limebuster: replace <application> with the name of the app.
[12:40] <limebuster> aha
[12:40] <limebuster> and the app can be anyplace? i.e desktop?
[12:40] <usr13> limebuster: apt-cache search <something-else>
[12:40] <k1l> limebuster: vlc is in the repos
[12:40] <anders__> limebuster: Example: sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:40] <limebuster> just put its name
[12:40] <k1l> !info vlc
[12:40] <Pici> !apt
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> foctoid overload ;)
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> factoid*
[12:41] <ActionPa1snip> limebuster: why would you use terminal if you have software centre open?
[12:41] <k1l> limebuster: please read what the package system is before you judge on it.
[12:41] <ActionPa1snip> limebuster: apt-get will also fail as the packages are locked
[12:41] <ActionPa1snip> limebuster: by software centre
[12:41] <codeoasis> i'm trying to build a system that has a chat feature, i'm using node and trying to figure out the mechanism for redis+socket.io , the chat is not a public chat but only between a client which does not belong to my db (an anonymous user), and a client that does belong to my db of users. i see only example out there on how to build a public chat. anybody?!
[12:41] <ActionPa1snip> limebuster: so it makes no sense
[12:42] <ActionPa1snip> codeoasis: like, for LAN?
[12:43] <usr13> limebuster: In other words, you have the option to use apt-get or the GUI Software Centre (just can't do both at the same time).
[12:43] <ActionPa1snip> limebuster: you'd have to drag it to terminal, then close software cente, why bother when you are so close with the GUI app?
[12:44] <Pici> codeoasis: this really isn't on-topic for #ubuntu.  Perhaps try ##programming or a channel for whatever language you plan to do this in.
[12:46] <anders__> limebuster: Lets take a step back for a sec. What are you trying to install, and where did you get the file?
[12:46] <Pici> Why don't we wait for limebuster to respond before we all jump in.
[12:47] <limebuster> Guys I dont have ubuntu right open right now, thanks for everyone trying to help.
[12:47] <limebuster> what im trying to know
[12:47] <limebuster> is how to install any app from the web
[12:47] <limebuster> not from the app center
[12:47] <limebuster> I just dont know much about ubuntu
[12:47] <limebuster> I remmber trying to install a firefox addon and that was a struggle
[12:48] <k1l> limebuster: first way should be to use the packages system. not to download anything anywhere
[12:48] <limebuster> i come from macs which are pretty easy
[12:48] <anders__> limebuster: You can add the applications repository to your system, and itsall it like any other app.
[12:48] <usr13> limebuster: You mean, you want to learn to use the command line interface to install apps, (rather than the GUI).  Right?
[12:48] <k1l> limebuster: firefox addons work the same like on windows or mac
[12:48] <ZIPY> limebuster: firefox addons be installed the same way
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> limebuster  programs from outside the repos are not screened and may be corrupt, they can harm your system
[12:48] <usr13> limebuster: http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get
[12:49] <Goatman> Ubuntu Software Center is like the iTunes store
[12:50] <limebuster> kll, packages system? repos?
[12:50] <Goatman> You can also use it to install downloaded packages
[12:50] <limebuster> dude ur talking to a noooobb
[12:50] <auronandace> !repo | limebuster
[12:50] <limebuster> ok ill check this link
[12:50] <ZIPY> limebuster: what application are you looking for
[12:50] <Goatman> A repository is a special site dedicated to packages
[12:51] <Goatman> packages contain the program
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> limebuster  in short: restrict yourself to the software center or to apt-get, if you want to safely install programs
[12:51] <usr13> ZIPY: He's not, just asking hypothetical question(s).
[12:51] <limebuster> yes usr13
[12:51] <limebuster> ok ill do some readings on the links posted
[12:51] <Goatman> If you want to download a specific app, almost always instructions are included on how to do so
[12:51] <limebuster> thanks guys ur so helpfull
[12:52] <limebuster> after the PRISM stuff im really thinking of install linux
[12:52] <anders__> limebuster: Here's my 2┬ó... Install Ubuntu, then cross this bridge when you get to that point.
[12:52] <Goatman> usually people use the command line because itŌĆÖs faster
[12:53] <ZIPY> if u know the package name :)
[12:53] <Goatman> To install VLC movie player, you type sudo apt-get install vlc
[12:53] <usr13> limebuster: It is best to use the Software Centre at first, it is easiest and shows discriptions for the app before you install it and is a feature rich application.
[12:53] <limebuster> specifically ubuntu its stunning
[12:53] <limebuster> kk
[12:53] <limebuster> ty
[12:53] <Goatman> yes certainly
[12:54] <anders__> np.
[12:54] <usr13> limebuster: Good luck and have lots of fun.
[12:54] <wilee-nilee> limebuster, This is support NOT CHAT, go to #ubuntu-offtopic if you need that.
[12:54] <Left_Turn> guys i want to move 'ubuntu.txt' from 'OS' to its sub-directory 'linux' .. ive tried "mv ubuntu.txt linux/"  but no luck.. why?
[12:55] <snus> left_turn
[12:55] <snus> try two dots
[12:55] <snus> "mv ubuntu.txt .."
[12:55] <Left_Turn> oh i see
[12:55] <usr13> Left_Turn: You must have been in the wrong directory, or did not give complete path to destination directory.
[12:56] <_kas> Hi All.  Can someone take a look at this error (http://paste.ubuntu.com/5958777/) and point me in the right direction for resolving it?
[12:56] <Left_Turn> OS has more than 1 sub directory.. i used tab to complete the names:(
[12:57] <auronandace> Left_Turn: .. is for moving to a parent directory (not sub directory)
[12:58] <Left_Turn> usr13 u were right i had the wrong name
[12:58] <Left_Turn> sorry guys
[12:59] <Left_Turn> thanks auronandace  ill make a note of that also
[12:59] <usr13> Left_Turn: The tab key is your friedn.
[12:59] <Left_Turn> yes:)
[12:59] <usr13> *friend*
[12:59] <bfmt048> how to install sublime text 2 in ubuntu
[13:00] <bfmt048> i tried several ways installing sublime text 2 , nothing works
[13:00] <auronandace> bfmt048: ask the developers
[13:00] <_kas> Hi All.  Can someone take a look at this error (http://paste.ubuntu.com/5958777/) and point me in the right direction for resolving it?
[13:01] <usr13> _kas: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-*list  | pastebinit    #Send URL here
[13:01] <ActionPa1snip> bfmt048: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/sublime-text-2; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install sublime-text
[13:01] <bfmt048> it  shows expired
[13:01] <ActionPa1snip> bfmt048: http://www.typecastexception.com/post/2013/04/23/Installing-Sublime-Text-2-on-Linux-MintUbuntu-%28for-Linux-Newcomers%29_.aspx#Install-Sublime-Text-First-Method   better method used (you may need to symlink the files in the second part as given)
[13:02] <ActionPa1snip> bfmt048: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[13:02] <bfmt048> ubuntu 11.10 \n \l
[13:03] <auronandace> bfmt048: no longer supported
[13:03] <_kas> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5958802/
[13:03] <janelleb> Hi , I installed 13.04 on a laptop, my processor is core i5-480M (it is a dual-core processor) but Ubuntu and /proc/cpuinfo is only detecting one core.. how do I install 13.04 to detect/use both cores?
[13:03] <bfmt048> what can i do to get it
[13:03] <ActionPa1snip> bfmt048: the PPA supports Oneiric, but Oneiric itself is EOL and no longer supported
[13:03] <ActionPa1snip> bfmt048: the official repos are dead but I suggest you upgrade in some way to Precise which is LTS and supported til April 2017
[13:03] <bfmt048> you mean , theres no way i get to install it
[13:03] <usr13> _kas: uname -r   #What does that say?
[13:04] <ActionPa1snip> bfmt048: yes, like I said, the PPA supports Oneiric according to the PPA site
[13:04] <_kas> 3.2.0-51-generic
[13:04] <ActionPa1snip> bfmt048: but your release is no longer supported by the official community
[13:05] <bfmt048> can i update my os
[13:05] <auronandace> janelleb: what makes you think it is only detecting one core?
[13:06] <usr13> _kas: uptime  #What does that say?
[13:06] <_kas> usr13, 09:06:17 up 18 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.07, 0.17
[13:07] <usr13> _kas: So you just rebooted 18min ago, .... after _________________?
[13:08] <_kas> usr13, yes.  Tried 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[13:08] <usr13> _kas: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade   #What does that say?
[13:08] <usr13> _kas: Did you get errors after command 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'?
[13:10] <_kas> usr13, yes - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5958822/
[13:11] <quackgyver> Wow, what an annoying person. Why do people insist on resisting straight-forward instructions on how to literally fix their issue.
[13:11] <quackgyver> ._.
[13:11] <usr13> _kas: ls -l  /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-server.list  #What is the date on that one?
[13:12] <_kas> usr13, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 159 Aug  7 08:35 /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-server.list
[13:12] <quackgyver> "Can you please do X and Y" / "hmmm would it help if i did Z????" / "No please just follow the steps. It'll fix your problem. If you don't want my help, just say so." / "ok bye *quits*"
[13:12] <quackgyver> :(
[13:13] <quackgyver> Nvm. Sorry.
[13:14] <usr13> _kas: pastebinit /etc/issue
[13:15] <usr13> k1l: cat /etc/issue   #Just show us.
[13:15] <_kas> usr13, Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[13:15] <jacks_cool> Hello~ Yesterday I was facing a problem of a cursor blinking with black screen on boot up! I set nomodeset permanently via terminal! I am again facing same issue! UBUNTU 12.03 LTS
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> jacks_cool  typo: it's 12.04 LTS
[13:16] <jacks_cool> Yesterday I was able to login once I set nomodeset.
[13:16] <jacks_cool> MonkeyDust: sorry~12.04 LTS
[13:16] <auronandace> jacks_cool: how did you set it permanently?
[13:16] <ActionPa1snip> jacks_cool: what GPU?
[13:17] <jarco> Hello. I have ubuntu 13.04 64 bit with unity. When I get a warning that there are software updates and I click the icon (in the left panel) the windows doesn't appear. How can I make it work again?
[13:17] <usr13> _kas: sudo upgrade linux-server
[13:17] <auronandace> usr13: you missed apt-get in there
[13:17] <jacks_cool> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5958836/
[13:18] <usr13> _kas: sudo apt-get upgrade linux-server  | pastebinit  #Show URL to us.
[13:18] <_kas> auronandace, its ok, i knew what he meant ;)
[13:18] <jacks_cool> auronandace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5958836/
[13:18] <jacks_cool> ActionPa1snip: ATI.
[13:18] <labsin> I have a problem with the keyboard repeat in Ubuntu. When I press a key and hold it, it repeats itself after a sertain time. But if I then press an other key, it stops repeating and only send an up event after that.
[13:18] <_kas> usr13, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5958841/
[13:19] <jacks_cool> ActionPa1snip: To be specific ATI RADEON HD 5470
[13:19] <auronandace> jacks_cool: why do you have that section there twice? nomodeset isn't in the top one
[13:20] <jacks_cool> auronandace: First is the code before setting. Second is the code after setting.
[13:20] <auronandace> jacks_cool: ahh, i see
[13:21] <ActionPa1snip> jacks_cool: did you install the proprietary video driver?
[13:21] <mikeas> hi, my mouse has stopped working after updating from 12.04 to 12.10 (kde). lsusb shows it in the list and the mouse is not defect.
[13:21] <mikeas> how do i fix this
[13:21] <jacks_cool> ActionPa1snip: yes. I installed it few weeks ago by following online commands.
[13:22] <auronandace> jacks_cool: if you installed it from the website you'd have to redo it every time there is a kernel update
[13:23] <jacks_cool> auronandace: I update my software center daily.
[13:23] <usr13> _kas: You might try http://pastebin.com/TqVe47FQ  (which is from http://askubuntu.com/questions/252777/how-can-i-resolve-dpkg-dependency )
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> jacks_cool  yes, but what you downloaded is not in the software center
[13:23] <auronandace> jacks_cool: how did you install the driver?
[13:23] <usr13> _kas: Or just uninstall and then re-install linux-server
[13:24] <usr13> _kas: Basically same thing...
[13:24] <_kas> usr13, I'll give it a go.  Do you know if any configs will be lost during that process?
[13:24] <jacks_cool> auronandace: I dont remember it but I followed some ubuntu forum
[13:25] <jacks_cool> MonkeyDust: what are other things to do?
[13:25] <usr13> _kas: I don't know. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1435818&p=12180959#post12180959
[13:26] <_kas> usr13, that fixed it.  removed and reinstalled linux-server
[13:26] <_kas> usr13, thanks for your help.
[13:27] <jacks_cool> auronandace: I downloaded some package called ATI catalyst and den installed following instructions on internet.
[13:27] <mikeas> is their a way to reinstall usb mousedrivers on ubuntu
[13:27] <usr13> _kas: Ok, good.  I was thinking that would be all it would take.  I would follow up by uninstalling unused kernels, (just something I usually do).
[13:28] <_kas> usr13, will do.  boot is getting close to full
[13:28] <uvala> hello, I've been getting a partial upgrade message again for a while. how can I get rid of it? when I open update manager, the "install updates" button is greyed. I tried command line update and upgrade, but it didn't upgrade
[13:28] <jacks_cool> It did start yesterday. But today when I started it again , it is showing same thing.
[13:28] <usr13> _kas: Sorry it took me so long to come up with an idea, but I just kept searching and finding discussions, (sometimes it's best to just use common sense).
[13:29] <_kas> usr13, no apology necessary.  Your help is appreciated.
[13:29] <auronandace> jacks_cool: then you need to install the drivers again (and every time the kernel gets updated afterwards)
[13:29] <michael87> ok I got a question. I really love clementine music player. but I want a more fun an intuitive way to flow through my music albums with slick animations. This there away to do this with clementine or do I need to keep searching?
[13:29] <usr13> _kas: ...sometimes people take a long drawn out method to accomplish what should have been fairly easy task.
[13:29] <jacks_cool> auronandace: What is the solution to boot it up?
[13:29] <auronandace> jacks_cool: this is why we only support the drivers from the repos
[13:30] <_kas> usr13, sometimes that is how you learn
[13:30] <usr13> _kas: ... anyway, I think *we* learned something here....
[13:30] <jacks_cool> auronandace: I want to start it so that I can follow all the instructions you told.
[13:30] <usr13> _kas: Yea. Agreed.
[13:30] <auronandace> jacks_cool: see if you can boot the older kernel
[13:31] <jacks_cool> auronandace: How can I do that?
[13:31] <auronandace> jacks_cool: select it in grub
[13:31] <hplc> i've been trying to install ubuntu with raid during install, but i cant find that option
[13:31] <jacks_cool> auronandace: There is an option of previous versions on boot up, shall I select it?
[13:31] <jacks_cool> auronandace: Can you link me to something where I can find how to boot older kernel?
[13:31] <Alabulie> hi. ubuntu is cool, but ... has ubuntu any SDK  like Visual Studio?
[13:32] <auronandace> jacks_cool: do you intend to use the drivers from the repos or from the website again?
[13:32] <jacks_cool> auronandace: from repos as you suggest!
[13:32] <mikeas> can jacks_cool and auronandace go into private chat
[13:32] <mikeas> you are flooding
[13:32] <auronandace> jacks_cool: then boot into the previous kernel from grub
[13:33] <auronandace> mikeas: this is a support channel, this is where the support belongs
[13:33] <usr13> hplc: Sotftware Raid?
[13:33] <mikeas> auronandace it seems that you are willing to give him detailed steps to help his problem.
[13:33] <hplc> anyone?, how do i create md during ubuntu install, i cant find the option
[13:33] <hplc> usr13: yes
[13:34] <hplc> usr13: raid1+0 preferred
[13:34] <usr13> hplc: On the "Partition Disks" page, do you see something like "Configure Software RAID" at the top?
[13:34] <hplc> usr13: no
[13:34] <usr13> hplc: If not, I dono
[13:35] <hplc> usr13: using live cd, (if it matters)
[13:35] <usr13> hplc: Yea, I assumed that....
[13:35] <Kerim> When do you guys think will I be able to buy a piece of hardware and it will "just workŌäó " ? Am really about to give up Linux in my private life (can't stop using it at work) *sigh
[13:35] <Rampage__> Does anyone know wether all laptops with an Intel cpu and Nvidia gpu come with the Optimus technology?
[13:36] <auronandace> Kerim: learn to identify manufacturers who don't make open source drivers
[13:36] <Kerim> auronandace: Like all GPU manufacturers?
[13:36] <Kerim> auronandace: Guess no GPUs for me anymore
[13:36] <usr13> hplc: To tell the truth, I'm just not a fan of Software Raid and haven't messed with it really.  Maybe someone else will have some advise for you. (But I'm thinking they've just omitted the option.)
[13:36] <auronandace> Kerim: intel makes open source drivers
[13:37] <hplc> usr13: yes, that was my thought as well
[13:37] <Kerim> auronandace: grmbl :/
[13:37] <anachronick> hello, I've created a ubuntu partition using wubi... now I want to get rid of it, shall I delete it from C: using win file explorer?
[13:37] <anachronick> or there is another procedure for it?
[13:37] <Kerim> anachronick: No. Go in your system settings
[13:37] <hplc> usr13: i just dont understand why not include it? i mean, ubuntu server, but no way to create md during install......
[13:37] <auronandace> Kerim: i tend to stick with nvidia due to the awesome work the guys at nouveau do
[13:37] <Kerim> anachronick: and uninstall it via "Programs and blah"
[13:37] <usr13> Kerim: You just learn to be a wise shopper. (Linux wise.)  I would also complain to vendor or manufaturer.
[13:38] <trijntje> anachronick, you should remove it from the configuration center
[13:38] <anachronick> whrere's that? in windows?
[13:38] <trijntje> anachronick, yes
[13:38] <usr13> hplc: I just don't know. (I was hoping someone else would chime in here.)
[13:38] <anachronick> where do I find it?
[13:38] <hplc> usr13: ah ok, well ill step down for now then :)
[13:39] <Kerim> auronandace, usr13 : I did check beforehand. That's what's frustrating about it. Bought the Radeon HD 7770 after seeing that AMD has Linux driver support for that card. Well, tough luck for me I guess
[13:39] <trijntje> anachronick, in windows, it depends on the version where. I dont use windows so I would'nt know
[13:39] <anachronick> ok, thank you
[13:39] <jacks> auronandace: I have successfully booted up in my ubuntu!
[13:39] <jacks> Now what shall I do
[13:39] <wilee-nilee> anachronick, wubi is a file in windows I would be curious as to how you created a partition and where it is at.
[13:39] <jacks> ?
[13:39] <usr13> Kerim: So if thre is a Linux driver for it, what is the problem?
[13:39] <mikeas> Does anyone know how i can reinstall mouse drivers in ubuntu, they stopped working after 12.04>12.10 update. i have a feeling this is gonna be one of those days nothing gets ever done but bugtracking.
[13:40] <Kerim> usr13: Mostly it not working
[13:40] <ActionPa1snip> mikeas: does the system have a make and model?
[13:40] <auronandace> jacks: you need to find out how to remove the driver you installed then install the one from the repos
[13:40] <Kerim> auronandace: Just click on the start orb in windows, type Add/Remove
[13:40] <usr13> Kerim:  cat /etc/issue   #What does that say?  (What version of Ubuntu are you on?)
[13:40] <jacks> auronandace: Do I need to  look in ubuntu forums for that?
[13:41] <mikeas> uhm not really, its a normal desktop, my mouse is g400, #lsusb shows it in the list. but it simply wont work (kde)
[13:41] <auronandace> jacks: that would be a good idea
[13:41] <mikeas> Last night was busy installing 32bitlibs. today it stopped working
[13:41] <Kerim> auronandace: it should show you the system settings installer thingie for windows. There you can look for wubi
[13:41] <Kerim> auronandace: and just uninstall
[13:41] <wilee-nilee> mikeas, Are you rooting the terminal to run that command?
[13:42] <auronandace> Kerim: i don't run wubi, never have never will, perhaps you meant somebody else
[13:42] <mikeas> willee-nilee if by root you mean sudo then yes.
[13:42] <wilee-nilee> mikeas, You don't run lsusb with sudo
[13:42] <jacks> auronandace: amd-driver-installer-12-1-x86.x86_64.run I installed this.
[13:42] <Kerim> auronandace: Oh snap. Sorry, meant anachronick
[13:42] <Kerim> anachronick: do what I said lol
[13:42] <hplc> i guess i could run ubuntu virtualized on top of BSD, but is there any difference in stability between virt engines? VBOX, KVM?, QEMU?, what to prefer?
[13:43] <Goatman> mikeas: can you see the mouse in /dev/input/by-id/
[13:43] <mikeas> wilee-nilee: oke. but the mouse is showing either way. optical laser is on. its just not working
[13:43] <Kerim> usr13: Can't. Once installed I get a black screen upon reboot. Have to go into recovery, then uninstall the drivers from the root shell
[13:43] <mikeas> yes, /dev/input/mouse/
[13:43] <mikeas> Goatman
[13:43] <auronandace> jacks: i can't help you uninstall it sorry, i've never done that
[13:43] <Kerim> usr13: am on Ubuntu 13.04
[13:44] <Goatman> mikeas: if you cat the /dev file do you get any output?
[13:44] <jacks> auronandace: do you know anything about fglrx?
[13:44] <usr13> Kerim: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[13:44] <adamk> hplc: The only real virtualization option to run Ubuntu on top of FreeBSD is VirtualBox.
[13:44] <adamk> jacks: There should be an uninstaller in /usr/share/amd/ or /usr/share/ati/
[13:44] <Kerim> usr13: will try
[13:44] <wilee-nilee> mikeas, Sure but you want to be sure you understand when and where you run sudo, in this case no biggie in others you can have stuff get root permissions that should not exposing you to dangers.
[13:44] <auronandace> jacks: no
[13:44] <mikeas> Goatman,
[13:45] <czxczx> ok so
[13:45] <mikeas> Goatman: i havnt tried that but im looking for a nuke like approach, have tried to troubleshoot it. reinstalling xserver-xorg. reinstalling kdm updating from 12.04 to 12.10 to 13.04. deleting xorg.
[13:45] <wilee-nilee> mikeas, YOU had # showing which makes me think you are rooting the terminal to avoid the password use if this is the case same type of possible exposures.
[13:45] <mikeas> iam so lost :(
[13:46] <jacks> adamk: there is a folder for ati, but I don't know how to uninstall it.
[13:46] <usr13> Kerim: Once you get back to GUI, you'll have an easier time of installing software for your new Video Card.
[13:46] <czxczx> how to make ctrl+<something> work in a game
[13:46] <Kerim> usr13: I do not seem to have an xorg.conf
[13:46] <adamk> jacks: There should be some uninstall script in that directory. You need to run that script as root (or with sudo)
[13:46] <Kerim> usr13: I am currently in gui, it's running in software mode
[13:47] <jacks> adamk: In usr/share/fglrx I have a catalyst center which on running gives http://paste.ubuntu.com/5958962/
[13:47] <Goatman> mikeas:  You should cat that dev file and see if the mouse is giving input.  If it is, then you know itŌĆÖs an xorg issue
[13:47] <usr13> Kerim: Oh, I must have missunderstood you.
[13:47] <Goatman> mikeas:  if it doesnŌĆÖt, then you need to look elsewhere
[13:48] <usr13> Kerim: But, what is "software mode"?
[13:48] <adamk> jacks: OK...
[13:48] <jacks> adamk: Screenshot of that folder http://imgur.com/71ftnUU
[13:48] <uvala> hello, I've been getting a partial upgrade message again for a while. how can I get rid of it? when I open update manager, the "install updates" button is greyed. I tried command line update and upgrade, but it didn't upgrade
[13:48] <Kerim> usr13: No hardware acceleration, the GUI is drawn via CPU
[13:48] <jacks> adamk:  It is screenshot of ust/share/ati
[13:48] <mikeas> Goatman: sure will try that, im on a live cd right now. though. what do i need to grep inside dmesg to find all the usb listings
[13:49] <wilee-nilee> uvala, What are the non ticked upgrades any kernels?
[13:49] <jacks> adamk: http://imgur.com/rpFy0UD screenshot of fglrx
[13:49] <Kerim> Is ANYBODY here using a Radeon HD 7xxx ?
[13:49] <adamk> jacks: I said the uninstall script should be in /usr/share/ati/ . I did not say /usr/share/ati/amdcccle/
[13:49] <czxczx> does anyone know? how to make ctrl hotkeys work in a game... they apparently don't work because ctrl+<something> is regarded as system hotkeys or something
[13:49] <jacks> adamk: There is only one folder inside usr/share/ati
[13:49] <Goatman> mikeas:  on my system this works sudo cat /dev/input/by-id/usb-17ef_Lenovo_Optical_Mouse-mouse
[13:50] <usr13> Kerim: Just a sec
[13:51] <adamk> jacks: Run 'ls -la /usr/share/ati/ | pastebinit' (You may have to install pastebinit first)
[13:51] <Goatman> mikeas:  you need to check your /dev/input/by-id/ folder
[13:51] <usr13> Kerim: lspci | pastebinit
[13:51] <wilee-nilee> Kerim, The anybody thing is not used here, you have been getting help, details and hardware info are all that is needed.
[13:51] <ActionPa1snip> Kerim: just ask your question
[13:52] <Teeemooooooooo> Hey i have problem?
[13:52] <Kerim> ActionPa1snip: That was a question.
[13:52] <Kerim> usr13: One second
[13:52] <mikeas> Goatman: yes, i heard you. hehe, iknow what to do. Im just trying to conceptualize my problem. im on a live cd right not in my system.
[13:52] <jacks> adamk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5958976/
[13:53] <usr13> Kerim: lspci | pastebinit  #Show us resulting URL
[13:53] <Goatman> Well, you should be getting output in your broken system from that file.
[13:53] <mikeas> Goatman: if cat /dev/input/ doesnt show me anything.
[13:53] <wilee-nilee> Teeemooooooooo, Don;t we all, state yours for help.
[13:53] <Kerim> usr13: Yup, will do. Just need to undo something I tried
[13:53] <adamk> jacks: You've created quite a mess of your system...
[13:53] <mikeas> Goatman: what should i do?
[13:53] <ActionPa1snip> Kerim: so its a hybrid GPU? Intel + Ati?
[13:53] <Goatman> mikeas: ThatŌĆÖs not  the full path
[13:53] <mikeas> Goatman: yes.
[13:53] <mikeas> Goatman: iknow
[13:54] <jacks> adamk: Any solution to revert back? I have got some important data in this.
[13:54] <ActionPa1snip> jacks: your backups will ensue data integrity
[13:54] <mikeas> Goatman: i should have said cat /dev/input/...
[13:54] <Goatman> mikeas:  But if there is no output, you have driver issues
[13:54] <jacks> ActionPa1snip: Is format only way to get out of this?
[13:54] <Kerim> ActionPa1snip: Depends on what exactly you mean by hybrid, if you mean something like what laptops have that you can switch then no. But the CPU is a i5-3570K (or something along the lines) that does come wih an iGPU
[13:54] <jacks> adamk ActionPa1snip: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.29 I followed this for installation
[13:55] <Teeemooooooooo> Why if woman is whit a "black" man she is soiled beyond any cleansing?
[13:55] <Goatman> mikeas: Does your mouse work with the live-cd?
[13:55] <adamk>  jacks: The installation program should have put an uninstall program somewhere on your computer.
[13:55] <mikeas> Goatman: and if it does give me output, it would be xorg. how can i completely reinstall xorg, not just the manifest so to speak
[13:55] <mikeas> yea
[13:55] <adamk> jacks: It *used* to be in /usr/share/ati/ but they might have moved it.
[13:56] <jacks> adamk: What shall be done now? Any restore point or something like removing few last updats?
[13:56] <Goatman> mikeas:  Did you use the apt-get purge command?
[13:56] <Kerim> usr13, ActionPa1snip : pastebin.com/eBurKyJE
[13:56] <adamk> jacks: You should try to find the uninstall program.  Barring that, you can try to manually remove the files the install program created and, if necessary, reinstall the packages those files overwrote./
[13:57] <mikeas> Goatman: no what does that, tried apt-get install -f, dpkg-reconfigure -a, autoremove,clean. but not purge
[13:57] <mikeas> Goatman: all with sudo ofc
[13:57] <ActionPa1snip> Kerim: there is no intel, so your CPU cannot draw anything
[13:57] <ActionPa1snip> Kerim: what is teh output of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a      Thanks
[13:57] <ActionPa1snip> jacks: no idea what the issue is
[13:58] <Goatman> mikeas: That should remove the configuration files.
[13:58] <ActionPa1snip> jacks: but 'important data' is in a backup of some sort...right?
[13:58] <jacks> ActionPa1snip: yes it is.
[13:58] <Goatman> mikeas:  You should cat that dev file right quick.
[13:58] <mikeas> ok yer, brb
[13:59] <Goatman> mikeas:  Just to make sure you arenŌĆśt chasing your tail
[13:59] <ActionPa1snip> jacks: then who cares :)
[13:59] <jacks> ActionPa1snip: Shall I format it again? :-/
[13:59] <ActionPa1snip> jacks: if all else fails, yes
[14:00] <usr13> Kerim: Did you try the "Additional Drivers"  option?
[14:00] <jacks> ActionPa1snip: Few months ago I had wubi installer. I removed that and installed a fres one with out wubi.
[14:00] <jacks> ActionPa1snip: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Removing_Catalyst.2Ffglrx
[14:00] <jacks> ActionPa1snip: This returns an error.
[14:00] <jacks> ActionPa1snip: Shall I try to reinstall the drivers from this link?
[14:00] <Kerim> ActionPa1snip, usr13 : pastebin.com/LdSHF4th
[14:02] <Kerim> usr13: Yes, same problem. I could chose from fglrx-updates and just fglrx but neither one seems to help.
[14:03] <usr13> Kerim: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:03] <Kerim> ActionPa1snip, usr13 : Frustrating fact: I got the same problem with the ATI Radeon HD 6630m on my notebook but luckily I do not need much GPU power on that thing and can simply rely on the Intel on-board graphics
[14:06] <mikael_> Goatman: oke tried to cat /dev/input/by-id/
[14:06] <mikael_> Goatman: but By-id doesnt exist
[14:06] <Kerim> usr13: It's updating, I need to go somewhere for just a few minutes. In any case, thank you very much. If I'm coming off like a douche it's because I'm really frustraed, was up all night because of this. Do appreciate your help.
[14:07] <mikael_> Goatman: Im inside my system rgith now.
[14:07] <usr13> Kerim: I understand your frustration.
[14:07] <raub> Interesting thing happened to this laptop. I installed 12.04 off the alternate image since I wanted control of the lvm and encryption.
[14:08] <raub> The main reason for this post is now pushed because I let it sleep while driving here and when i opened the laptop, the lights and cpu fan came on but nothing on the screen
[14:08] <raub> So i did crtl-alt-f1 and got the terminal screen
[14:08] <raub> but cannot type on it
[14:08] <raub> nor switch back tot he graphics one
[14:08] <jacks> adamk: Ran some commands and those folders got vanished ;)
[14:09] <usr13> raub: Ctrl-Alt-Del
[14:09] <usr13> raub: ... to reboot...
[14:09] <raub> So, unless someone has a suggestion, I will need to do a Windows maneuver on it
[14:09] <mikael_> Goatman: But after #apt-get purge it said, 9xx packages not upgraded, so im upgrading them see if it helps
[14:09] <jacks> adamk: Following this http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.29  to install again !
[14:09] <usr13> raub: Did you do  updates after install?
[14:09] <raub> usr13: exactly what I was going to do. Which is too Windows for me
[14:09] <raub> usr13: not really; that is related to the original question
[14:10] <usr13> _ruben: "too Windows"?
[14:10] <usr13> _ruben: How much RAM does it have?
[14:10] <wilee-nilee> usr13, You beat me to it. ;)
[14:10] <raub> Did not respond to crtl-alt-del
[14:10] <airportyh> Hello all, I and trying to setup VPN using network-manager-vpnc
[14:10] <raub> Willneed to power off
[14:10] <airportyh> but I cannot create a vpn config because the ┬©Save┬© button is greyed out
[14:11] <airportyh> any ideas/help would be appreciated
[14:11] <Goatman> mikael_:  What is in /dev/input folder
[14:11] <Goatman> ?
[14:11]  * wilee-nilee wonders what a "windows maneuver and too windows" is.
[14:11] <mikael_> airportyh: i think you need to open gnome-network-manager with sudo. the network manager could be called diffrent though
[14:11] <usr13> _ruben: What size swap partition are you using?
[14:11] <mikael_> airportyh: cant remember
[14:11] <usr13> raub: What size swap partition are you using?
[14:12] <airportyh> mikael_: thanks, I┬┤ll try
[14:12] <usr13> (Sorry ruben, wrong nick.)
[14:12] <mikael_> Goatman: by-path, event0,event1,event2,mice
[14:12] <raub> raub: no swap. We usually never use swap at work
[14:12] <usr13> raub: I see.  Well, that is more than likely the problme.
[14:12] <usr13> *problem*
[14:12] <usr13> raub: Why do you not use swap?
[14:13] <raub> I have 4GB of ram
[14:13] <Goatman> mikeal:  There should be a listing in /dev/input/by-path/ for your usb mouse
[14:13] <mikael_> Goatman: ill check
[14:13] <Goatman> mikeal: if there isnŌĆÖt then thatŌĆÖs a big problem
[14:13] <Kerim> raub: depending on the kinds of applications you run, that might not be enough. Firefox with a few tabs open already occupies a good part of your RAM
[14:13] <usr13> raub: I suggest use 4G swap partition.  (Probably won't have that problem any more.)
[14:14] <Kerim> raub: Unless you're using an SSD I don't see why you wouldn't use Swap
[14:14] <raub> Kerim: bingo
[14:14] <mikael_> it only shows my keyboard i think <string>-kbd
[14:14] <mikael_> Goatman:
[14:14] <raub> I am using a 60GB SSD
[14:15] <xirre> I have an urgent question as to how I would use iptraf & iftop as well as iptables to mitigate against DoS and DDoS attacks. I'm experiencing problems and I want to handle them before they occur again.
[14:15] <mikael_> Goatman: yer its freaky man, the lights are on. but nobody is home :'(
[14:15] <usr13> raub: And you think not having a swap partition will make your SSD last longer?
[14:15] <raub> My LVM usage right now is small; I am using 1/3 of the disk
[14:15] <raub> SSDs seem to like ot stay under 80% of capacity
[14:15] <usr13> raub: Really?
[14:15] <Goatman> mikeal_: So what you are saying is that there is no listing for your mouse in the /dev/input folder?
[14:15] <raub> So I can probably throw a swap partition if I want
[14:16] <raub> I am not against it
[14:16] <airportyh> mikael_: cannot find the network manager on the commandline
[14:16] <usr13> raub: Yea, do it.
[14:16] <nbubuntu> hi anyone know whether freshly install 12.04 will erase the grub from my old 10.04 ?
[14:16] <raub> At work we never use them because of PCI
[14:16] <mikael_> Goatman: yer, im upgrading 900 packages right now so lets see what that does.
[14:16] <ikonia> nbubuntu: it will update it
[14:16] <usr13> raub: Because of PCI?
[14:16] <trijntje> raub, you can also look at zram-config, it lets you use more RAM in exchange for some processing power
[14:16] <Kerim> usr13: Update done. What next. Should I try the fglrx drivers?
[14:16] <raub> usr13: PCI compliance; we deal with credit cards
[14:16] <mikael_> airportyh: yea i dont know what the network manager is called exactly. maybe someone here.
[14:17] <altin> I wrote a script to notify me when capslock is ON or OFF
[14:17] <raub> Also, our servers have in average 128GB of RAM
[14:17] <altin> I need to change the capslock key behavior
[14:17] <raub> Which is not that much compared to what modern desktops can handle
[14:17] <altin> I went to custom shortcuts
[14:17] <nbubuntu> ikonia : 10.04 using non gui grub .I wanted to retain back normal non-gui 12.04
[14:17] <altin> and selected CAPSLOCK to run the script
[14:17] <ikonia> nbubuntu: non-gui grub ?
[14:17] <ikonia> nbubuntu: grub does not have a gui, it's a boot loader
[14:17] <altin> but when I hit capslock it doesn't run the script
[14:18] <altin> anyon knows why >
[14:18] <altin> ?
[14:18] <shader> how does one view details about a service that can be run with 'service <name> start'? I want to know what script it's using for a particular service
[14:18] <raub> altin: I thought that you can configure grub not to do gui
[14:18] <nbubuntu> ikonia : yeh bootloader
[14:18] <ikonia> nbubuntu: what is your question ?
[14:18] <ikonia> nbubuntu: the grub version from 10.04 will be updated to the grub version from 12.04
[14:18] <raub> shader: I think those scripts are just in /etc/init.
[14:18] <ikonia> nbubuntu: what is the issue ?
[14:18] <nbubuntu> ikonia : can I retain back the grub ? i dont like the bootloader
[14:19] <shader> raub: ok
[14:19] <ikonia> shader: they are not scripts in /etc/init.d - ubuntu uses upstart, not sysvinit
[14:19] <raub> As opposite to init.d
[14:19] <ikonia> nbubuntu: don't like the bootloader ?? it's a boot loader, you should see no difference
[14:19] <ikonia> !upstart |shader
[14:19] <shader> thanks
[14:19] <altin> raub: wasn't asking for grub !?
[14:19] <raub> ikonia: I thought they were moving away from upstart.
[14:20] <nbubuntu> ikonia : and also can I install 12.04 along with 10.10 ? because I am installing 12.04 on other partition.Extended partition.Can I install into it ? thanks because Iam a newbie on it
[14:20] <mikael_> airportyh: try this #ls /usr/bin | grep "network"
[14:20] <ikonia> raub: not at the moment
[14:20] <ikonia> nbubuntu: why are you doing this ?
[14:20] <ikonia> nbubuntu: 10.10 is EOL and dead
[14:21] <nbubuntu> ikonia : some of the item not backup
[14:21] <ikonia> nbubuntu: I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to say
[14:22] <usr13> raub: It is my opinion that even if you have SSD drive, you should also have a swap partition at least as large as your RAM.  If you have enough RAM, the swap partition will rarely be used, but when needed it is there.  (Just my 2c.)
[14:24] <daftykins> or put the swap on mechanical because you don't care about the capacity there
[14:24] <raub> usr13: I see your point. I just created the lv and did mkswap on it. Now I am going to add it to the fstab so I can swapon it
[14:24] <usr13> Kerim: Does it say that a Reboot is needed?
[14:25] <Kerim> usr13: No it didn't but I rebooted anyway.
[14:25] <raub> Just deciding between uuid or path to device
[14:25] <raub> Once that is done, back to figuring out why trackpad and wireless are inop
[14:25] <usr13> Kerim: Try "Additional Drivers"
[14:26] <TOko> Hello
[14:26] <jacks_cool> adamk ActionPa1snip: thanks. Installed the driver again and it's working fine! ;)
[14:27] <Kerim> usr13: I did just a minute ago. Rebooted, black screen lol. Going to reboot into recovery root shell and check out xorg.conf and uninstall drivers
[14:29] <Kerim> usr13: Don't even have an xorg.conf but an xorg.conf.fglrx-0
[14:29] <raub> usr13 (and others): swap is enabled
[14:30] <usr13> Kerim: If I were you, I'd complain to the folks at AMD for telling you that they had Drivers for it, (I just looked at their website and see no evidence of their offering any Linux Drivers for that card, maybe I missed it, but, well, I dono....)_
[14:30] <purezen>  Hey guys ! I recently purchased an EVDO data card, Teracom T-U500.. It's working perfectly fine under Windows but doesn't work in Linux.. The modem does not get detected at all.. Seemingly, it can't perform a successful 'usb_modeswitch' operation.. Please help..!
[14:30] <Kerim> usr13: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[14:30] <raub> Now to find out why the trackpad is inop and netowrk manager claims the wireless card is disabled by hardware switch
[14:31] <raub> I probably should do another Windows maneuver again just in case
[14:31] <Kerim> usr13:  Desktop graphics > Radeon HD > 7xxx series > x86_64
[14:32] <Kerim> usr13: But yeah, think I'll complain (and give up). Seems like a lost cause.
[14:33] <usr13> Kerim: "Radeon 7000 Series"?
[14:34] <Kerim> usr13: Yes
[14:35] <usr13> Kerim: Do not see anything for Linux
[14:35] <Kerim> usr13: I get this http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English
[14:36] <Kerim> usr13: and compatibility list http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/amdcatalyst13-4linreleasenotes.aspx
[14:37] <usr13> Kerim: PCIe?
[14:37] <Kerim> usr13:  Yes
[14:37] <usr13> http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13-4-linux-x86.x86_64.zip
[14:38] <usr13> Kerim: You are 64bit?
[14:38] <adamk> Kerim: Maybe I missed it, but have you checked your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to see what the problem is?
[14:38] <Kerim> usr13: Yes, I did try that one. I also tried the beta driver.
[14:38] <Kerim> adamk: Will do.
[14:39] <usr13> Kerim: uname -r
[14:39] <arsh> Hi, i'm struggling with this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1172852 , can someone help me out
[14:39] <Kerim> usr13: 3.8.0-19-generic, how do I check xorg version?
[14:40] <dragoonis> I am using ubuntu liveCD on my macbook pro. I have mounted my mac's filesystem to /dev/sda and can browse the files. However when i browse to /Users/dragoonis/Documents/ it says "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "Documents"."
[14:40] <dragoonis> How can I get permissions to read the "Documents" contents folder?
[14:40] <klikini> you have to boot into os x and change the permissions to public
[14:41] <usr13> Kerim: I suggest that it may not work with the 3.8.0-19 kernel. (May work fine on a Ubuntu 12.04 system just not on 13.04.)  (I just use LTS, so not all that knowledgable on a 13.04 system.)
[14:41] <Kerim> adamk, usr13 : pastebin.com/sWz2VdsB
[14:42] <usr13> dragoonis: What is it now?  ls -l |grep Documents
[14:42] <raub> Any suggestions why a trackpad would stop working after reinstalling 12.04 (or running 13.04 livecd)?
[14:42] <raub> I believe xinput list shows it as "SynPS/2 Synaptics Touchpad"
[14:43] <foo357> Hello, is there some way to replace a directory with an archive, the directory is large and I have a limited amount of free disk space.
[14:43] <adamk> Kerim: First, getting fglrx working on a laptop with hybrid graphics is hit-or-miss.  Some GPUs seem to be supported, some aren't.  However, you don't even appear to have the fglrx driver installed at the moment.
[14:43] <klikini> raub: my laptop has a bios option to enable/disable the trackpad. check yours?
[14:44] <Kerim> adamk: It's a desktop and yes, I uninstalled fglrx drivers just now because I get a black screen after grub with all of the possible drivers I could find.
[14:44] <raub> klikini: Mine does not seem to have. I can check again
[14:44] <foo357> so the archiving would have to incrementally remove files in the directory (to free up disk space) while the archive is being created
[14:44] <klikini> raub: what brand of laptop?
[14:44] <christos_> hey
[14:44] <raub> klikini: toshiba
[14:44] <nbubuntu> ikonia : I mean there are quite some files not yet backup , rather than formating the 10.10 partition , I'd like to install 12.04 on a extended partition alongside with 10.10.I just worry it replace the bootloader to gui version.
[14:45] <Kerim> usr13, adamk : According to AMD the 13.4 driver only work swith 12.10. I migh try that. The 13.8 beta driver supposedly works with 13.04 but it's a beta driver so expecting that to work flawlessly is silly in the first place
[14:45] <raub> foo357: how about splitting the tgz into more than one?
[14:45] <dragoonis> --- How can I boot up the ubuntu file explorer with ROOT proviledges ?
[14:45] <usr13> Kerim: Look at lines 5-7
[14:45] <dragoonis> I have a folder than I can access from Terminal with root only.
[14:45] <klikini> raub: have you tried this? http://askubuntu.com/a/199592
[14:45] <adamk> Kerim: Well the Xorg log file isn't going to tell you anything helpful if you're not looking at it when fglrx is installed.
[14:45] <adamk> Kerim: Are you trying to use both the intel and radeon GPUs at the same time?
[14:46] <foo357> raub: splitting the archive wouldn't help much I think
[14:46] <usr13> Kerim: Yea, try the beta again.
[14:46] <ikonia> nbubuntu: you are making a terrible design decision
[14:46] <christos_> can i do a question?
[14:46] <ikonia> nbubuntu: backup the files from 10.10 - upgrade/install 12.04 in it's place
[14:46] <Kerim> adamk: No. It's a desktop and I'm just trying to get the dedicated GPU to run.
[14:46] <raub> foo357: I mean more than one tgz, So the temp space needed is not as much
[14:46] <ikonia> nbubuntu: dual booting an unsupported distro when you openly admit you are new to linux is unwise going forward, it's is better to backup what you need, upgrade/replace 10.10 with a single supported 12.04/13.04 install
[14:47] <Kerim> usr13: What's with those?
[14:47] <foo357> raub: Hm ok
[14:47] <usr13> Kerim: Try the beta driver again.
[14:48] <Kerim> usr13: Alrights
[14:49] <christos__> hey
[14:49] <k1l> !details | christos_
[14:49] <Kerim> adamk: I can't pastebin the log once I install fglxr. Because I get a black screen after grub and will only be able to go into recovery root shell
[14:49] <adamk> Kerim: Setup ssh so you can log in remotely from another machine.
[14:49] <christos_> i   have doanload wire shark
[14:50] <adamk> Kerim: And make sure you create an xorg.conf file where the intel GPU is disabled.
[14:50] <christos_> but cant find my ethernet what can i do
[14:50] <Pici> christos_: you need to run it with sudo in order to see your interfaces and capture packets.
[14:50] <Kerim> usr13: Nope :/ , sigh.
[14:50] <Pici> christos_: or gksudo since its a gui application.
[14:50] <Kerim> adamk: The Intel GPU is not connected to the screen but okay
[14:51] <adamk> Kerim: It doesn't matter if it's connected or not.  Xorg is clearly trying to use it as you can see in your Xorg log file.
[14:51] <nbubuntu> ikonia : but I had a lot programs on old distro , going for dual boot actually able to help me to copy the file directly and install rather than download the program again on new 12.04
[14:51] <nbubuntu> ikonia : I'll try and see what I can do
[14:52] <wilee-nilee> Asked this on the #firefox channel they seem to have no real viable answer. So as of late, upon removing a yahoo password while using FF 23 sync'd when I login I get no option to save in sync. I want to re-add the password.
[14:53] <wilee-nilee> Yahoo is blocking browsers from saving passwords in other words, same in IE 10 in W8
[14:54] <ikonia> ubottu: it won't help you
[14:54] <ikonia> oops
[14:54] <ikonia> nbubuntu: it won't help you - it will cause you problems
[14:55] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[14:55] <ikonia> nbubuntu: you're saying you're new, and asking for advice, I'm advising you not to do what you want to do but approch it different, and you're ignoring it
[14:55] <ikonia> nbubuntu: I very very strongly advise you not to try to dualboot 10.10 and 12.04 - but do it properly, backup what you need and upgrade or replace 10.10 with 12.04
[14:55] <maxiPad3gs> will we be able to install saucy salamder from 13.04 from terminal?
[14:56] <Sk1Special> why is dual booting two different ubuntus bad?
[14:56] <wilee-nilee> maxiPad3gs, When?
[14:56] <maxiPad3gs> i mean once its released can we install from terminal/
[14:56] <MonkeyDust> maxiPad3gs  #ubuntu+1 for 13.10 support
[14:57] <Kerim> adamk: How do I explicitly disable Intel in the xorg.conf?
[14:57] <wilee-nilee> maxiPad3gs, There is a cli command for upgrading
[14:57] <rog3r> When I've dual booted two ubuntus that share the same home, the dotfiles became a problem.
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> maxiPad3gs  like you would do any upgrade
[14:57] <christos_> anyone who can know  about my problem?
[14:57] <nbubuntu> ikonia : ok , i'll try , takes times to backup :)
[14:58] <Ampelbein> christos_: Start wireshark with "gksu wireshark". Do the network devices show up then?
[14:58] <adamk> Kerim: You create an xorg.conf file that specifies *just* the radeon GPU.
[14:58] <wilee-nilee> christos_, Getting wireshark we c an help with, but I believe actually using it may be not supported
[14:58] <christos_> how can i do it  to start with this mode
[14:59] <Sk1Special> so would dual booting two ubuntus within the same pc but on separate drives be a problem?
[14:59] <wilee-nilee> christos_, If you are registered you might try ##linux
[14:59] <Kerim> adamk: But the driver does that. I just checked out the xorg.conf before uninstalling the beta drivers and it only contained the ati stuff. Wait, lemme pastebin it
[14:59] <Ampelbein> christos_: http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/collab-maint/ext-maint/wireshark/trunk/debian/README.Debian?view=markup has an explanation what you need to do.
[15:00] <Kerim> adamk: pastebin.com/sdQaghp63
[15:01] <adamk> Kerim: That paste has been removed.  In any case, the Xorg log file you posted showed that it wasn't using an xorg.conf file that prevented the intel GPU from being used.
[15:01] <christos_> thank you very much
[15:03] <Kerim> adamk: pastebin.com/sdQahp63 (accidently typed a letter into link earlier)
[15:04] <rog3r> Sk1Special: I imagine another problem would be managing grub configurations, because of the added complexity of having one in sync with both.
[15:04] <adamk>  OK, but that clearly wasn't the xorg.conf file you were using for the Xorg log file you posted.
[15:04] <Kerim> adamk: I have no other xorg.conf, infact after uninstalling the drivers I have no xorg.conf at all
[15:06] <Kerim> adamk, usr13 : Anyhow, thank you for your help guys. I will try to install the 13.4 drivers on Ubuntu 12.10 and if that doesn't work without all too much hassle I'll just give up :/
[15:11] <purezen> Also guys, my Vostro 5460 which came pre-loaded with Ubuntu is producing very low audio output.. While it works fine on Windows.. Please help..!
[15:12] <neyder> Hi there, can some help me with huawei modem e303c, AT command to change usb-cd behavior doesnt work, or where can I ask ?
[15:13] <purezen> I had been discussing it here, previously.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2152776&highlight=5460
[15:14] <Slagwag> anyone knows if there is a current ubuntu step-by-step walkthru to train someone on the OS? I am trying to setup something for other users and there was something for 8.x
[15:16] <ken-the-whiz> so everythings working in my isp end but my ethernet seems to not want to connect linux boxes
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> Slagwag  8.x is no longer supported and the best way to learn an OS, is by using it and reading some
[15:16] <ken-the-whiz> any clue? it worked in till restart
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> do some reading, even*
[15:17] <Pici> !manual | Slagwag
[15:17] <Kerim> adamk, usr13 : Oh! I just noticed that the driver requires GlibC 2.2 ot 2,3 and I have 2.17
[15:17] <Kerim> adamk, usr13 : Can't find a glibc package in the repos, how to remedy that?
[15:18] <WaryDev> Kerim, it's known as libc6 and you will need to search old repos to get a lower version
[15:19] <Kerim> WaryDev: Oh snap. I just misread 2.17 as 2.1.7 ... so I already do have a higher version. Oh man, bummers. Thanks mate.
[15:21] <whoever> Kerim:  so what do them temp sensors read when you run then, (system monitor)
[15:21] <Kerim> whoever: Nothing. Ubuntu just "kills" the process or crashes.
[15:22] <Kerim> whoever: I mean when I run any software that is supposed to show the temps. In System Monitor it simply shows nothing.
[15:25] <whoever> Kerim:  install psensstor,
[15:26] <whoever> Kerim: when you start it you will have to check the boxes  for the sensors you want
[15:27] <snoopybbt> hello there!!
[15:27] <snoopybbt> i'd need a virtual machine with something like 4 gigs of ram, but my computer only has 4 gigs of ram
[15:27] <snoopybbt> so i thought i could so some "light" virtualmachine
[15:27] <Kerim> whoever: Okay. Will try it later. Trying to fix something else first. One thing at a time and maybe I'll have at least one functioning system by next week lol
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> snoopybbt  the question is the answer: you need more ram
[15:27] <snoopybbt> by installing ubuntu inside ubuntu, the way i used to install debian inside debian
[15:28] <snoopybbt> that is, by using debootstrap
[15:28] <snoopybbt> now, i've been using deboostrap successfully in the past with debian
[15:28] <snoopybbt> does debootstrap works for ubuntu too ?
[15:28] <O-Pumpkin> Hello / Salut !
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> snoopybbt  you mean chroot, fake root?
[15:29] <Pici> !debootstrap
[15:29] <snoopybbt> MonkeyDust: yes, but using an as standard as possible ubuntu system
[15:29] <snoopybbt> uh thanks Pici
[15:29] <snoopybbt> Pici: imma give it a look
[15:29] <whoever> Kerim: what are you workin on now
[15:30] <Kerim> whoever: Graphics drivers on my desktop machine.
[15:31] <__oz__> I've atempted installing lamp on my lubuntu laptop a few times. But now i think i have installed various types (lamp, xampp, ect.) various times. any help?
[15:31] <daftykins> snoopybbt: you can overprovision with virtualisation software, it'll just start to page eventually
[15:31] <daftykins> __oz__: what are you trying to do? learn how to manage a web server?
[15:32] <__oz__> daftykins: install lamp server and cleanup the other installations
[15:32] <snoopybbt> daftykins: i've alredy done something similar using virtualbox and it was SLOOOOOOW, so slow it took away all the fun of running a reddit instance :P
[15:32] <adamk> Kerim: Did you grab the Xorg log file yet from when you are running the catalyst driver?
[15:33] <daftykins> snoopybbt: perhaps you used an inappropriate distro?
[15:33] <Pici> !away > BlackoutIsHere
[15:34] <Kerim> adamk: That's an impossible task, mate... Mostly because I cannot run x or anything for that matter once I install the driver. I have to first go into recovery root shell and uninstall the drivers to be able to boot into the operating system
[15:35] <adamk> Kerim: As I suggested above, install ssh and log in remotely once the machine starts up.
[15:35] <snoopybbt> daftykins: nope, i used all the recommended software, and it actually worked, it was just slow to death
[15:35] <__oz__> daftykins: i need it just to test php code, i think i have more than one mysql/ apatche/ php. I need to clean it up
[15:35] <snoopybbt> daftykins: and no, i wasn't running it on and encrypted fs
[15:36] <daftykins> snoopybbt: no as in like a nasty modern memory hungry DE or similar
[15:36] <snoopybbt> daftykins: DE as development environment ?
[15:36] <Kerim> adamk: alrights
[15:37] <daftykins> snoopybbt: desktop
[15:37] <ken-the-whiz> hey my router wont connect my linux box
[15:37] <daftykins> snoopybbt: so more the xfces and the lxde's than the unitys etc.
[15:38] <mikael1_> Goatman: So yeah, have my system upgraded but my mouse is still  not getting assigned to a hid
[15:38] <snoopybbt> interestingly, in "the unix programming environment" home directories are in /usr ... i wonder why then they were moved to /home
 what do you mean?
[15:38] <mikael1_> Goatman: also installed: sudo apt-get install hwinfo &&hwinfo -mouse
[15:38] <snoopybbt> daftykins: i run 2d unity, and honestly i don't wanna bother with other DEs
[15:38] <mikael1_> Goatman: shows no device files
[15:38] <gordonjcp> snoopybbt: it's been /home as long as I can remember
[15:38] <gordonjcp> snoopybbt: waaaaaaay before Linux ;-)
 does the mouse work in other OSes?
[15:39] <mikael1_> Goatman: yea. live cds and anything else.
[15:39] <mikael1_> Goatman: the mouse works
[15:39] <mikael1_> Goatman: i think its dbus
[15:39] <purezen> !support
[15:39] <purezen> !release
[15:39] <ken-the-whiz> Goatman, well it worked in till restart
[15:39] <snoopybbt> daftykins: nope, this book is from 1991 and dates from ls in pics are dated 1983
[15:40] <snoopybbt> sorry it was for gordonjcp
[15:40] <ken-the-whiz> now my computer detects eth0 but wont connect
[15:40] <daftykins> np
[15:40] <babinlonston> Please give me any link for step by step installing Kaltura , goggled a lot but not getting success installation Every time :(
[15:41] <Sk1Special> is there a ubuntu smartglass/smartglass equivalent?
[15:41] <__oz__> i ran ' sudo apt-get purge mysql-server apache2 php5 '  but after when i point my browser to localhost it shows the the test page. so the web server is still running. I want to get rid of the server :/
[15:42] <__oz__> i think i have more than one apatche /mysql/ php . help?
  Look in the kernel log and see it says.  It is a USB mouse right?  use, cat /var/log/kern.log | grep usb
[15:44] <mikael1_> Goatman: grep -i mouse /var/log/dmesg, gives me: usb 2-1.1: Product: Gaming Mouse G400
[15:44] <mikael1_> but no /dev/input file or anything, weirdest stuff ever.
[15:44] <mikael1_> i think i should reinstall but idont want 2
[15:44] <mikael1_> maybe kernel rebuild
[15:44] <mikael1_> but that takes a shitload of time also
[15:44] <Goatman> yeah, but check the kernel log
[15:45] <denis__> where i may ask about 'usbmon' module ? (about usb sniffing)
[15:45] <Ether_Echoes> I'm having a bit of trouble with my panels (gnome fallback (no effects) on 13.04). I installed an update earlier today and now certain items make panels useless. I tried following this guide: http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2012/01/12/missing-applications-places-or-system-menus-how-to-reset-ubuntus-classic-gnome-23-panel/ with no success.
[15:46] <Goatman> mine assigns a USB mouse.[    3.824856] input: Lenovo Optical Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-6/1-6.4/1-6.4:1.0/input/input5
[15:46] <Ether_Echoes> Adding certain menu items causes the panel to go all-black and I can't do anything with it other than delete or move it around
[15:46] <Dave257> Hello. Anybody here could point me to where I can get help with a "Failed to schedule IB" crash?
[15:46] <Ether_Echoes> (Also, for some reason I can't get my terminal with ctrl+alt+T, though I can with alt+F2 and entering gnome-terminal)
[15:46] <mikael1_> Goatman: yer, thats whats so strange. it should give a assignment
[15:47] <mikael1_> Goatman: but so far have not seen any errors
[15:47] <Goatman> replace the kernel with a .deb, see if that helps
[15:48] <Ether_Echoes> trying to add clock, menu bar, logout button... it all kills the panel
[15:48] <Ether_Echoes> I can add things like Show Desktop or Workspaces no problem
[15:48] <babinlonston> histo: Please give me any link for step by step installing Kaltura , goggled a lot but not getting success installation Every time :(
[15:49] <wilee-nilee> Ether_Echoes, that page is dated January 12, 2012 8 months ago I have to wonder if it is accurate it is using gconf when dconf is used now
[15:49] <Dave257> Hello. Anybody here could point me to where I can get help with a "Failed to schedule IB" crash?
[15:49] <__oz__> can anybody help me remove my webserver?
[15:49] <Ether_Echoes> yeah, probably not as up-to-date as I'd like
[15:49] <adamk> !details | Dave257
[15:49] <__oz__> so i can install lamp
[15:49] <mikael1_> Goatman: What do you mean by replacing kernel with .dev
[15:49] <mikael1_> deb*
[15:51] <Ether_Echoes> Had an internal error earlier, lemme dig it up... in /usr/bin/gnome-panel
[15:51] <Dave257> Running Ubuntu 13, every now and then my screen freezes and when I go to a terminal I get the error Radeon  0000:01)00.0 couldn't schedule ib  drm:radeon_cs_ib_chunk *error* failed to schedule ib. I can't do anything and have to do a REISUB
[15:52] <DJones> babinlonston: Can't say I've heard of Kaltura, but this link kiijs qyure detailed https://github.com/instructure/canvas-lms/wiki/Kaltura-setup-instructions
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> Dave257  what's IB ?
[15:52] <whoever> ken-the-whiz: you still here
[15:52] <babinlonston> DJones: ok
[15:52] <DJones> s/kiijs qyure/looks quite/
[15:53] <Dave257> I have no clue. just that the screen freezes. There's still sound and I guess everything works but the graphics. Can't do anything but do a hard reboot.
[15:53] <adamk> Dave257: Well what I can say is that there's definitely an error with the radeon kernel driver. Are you using the latest kernel available for 13.04?
take a look at this: http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-kernel-3-10-on-ubuntu-linux-mint-debian-and-derivates/
[15:53] <holstein> !tty | Dave257 try this next time, and see if you can "sudo reboot" instead
[15:53] <adamk> Dave257: And is there anything you know that triggers the freeze?
[15:54] <babinlonston> DJones:  :D i Give my office Peoples Link alreay we tried and stored in git ...
[15:54] <ikonia> mikael1_: do not do what Goatman is saying
[15:54] <babinlonston> Sorry you give
[15:54] <whoever> kermit: what wrong with your graphics
[15:54] <whoever> kermit: what card do you have
[15:54] <Dave257> I do get a terminal with alt+f1, where the error goes on repeating. I do have the latest update. Nothing so far. When I click the left button for a menu. But yesterday it happened while watching a video.
 You can install other kernels as well
[15:54] <ikonia> mikael1_: again - do not do what Goatman is suggesting
[15:55] <DJones> babinlonston: Thats about all I could see, its not software I know, so I'd just be guessing at anything else, good luck getting it installed though
[15:55] <babinlonston> DJones: thank you sir
[15:55] <mikael1_> ikonia: hows that?
[15:55] <Ether_Echoes> is there any way I can troubleshoot my gnome panels? I can use Alt+F1 to access the menu, certainly, but it would be nice to fix thi
[15:55] <Ether_Echoes> s
[15:56] <mikael1_> goatman: thanks, ill will check that out def. alot easier then building it l000l
[15:56] <ikonia> mikael1_: what do you mean "hows that"
[15:56] <mikael1_> goatman: debian ftw
[15:56] <Dave257> sudo reboot. That works? good. Any way I can reboot only the graphics card or something? I tried a service lightdm restart. but the screen gets all garbled and it still won't work.
[15:57] <holstein> Dave257: i would try different graphics drivers
[15:57] <wilee-nilee> Ether_Echoes, Have you tried a reboot?
[15:57] <mikael1_> ikonia: you said "Do not do what Goatman suggested" and i say hows that?
[15:57] <mikael1_> ikonia: why?
[15:57] <holstein> Dave257: i think someone already suggested trying an older kernel..
[15:57] <ikonia> mikael1_: because you are randomly updating kernels to out of support kernels for no valid reson
[15:58] <Dave257> where can I get a different driver? been looking but ATI no longer does a driver for ubuntu or linux.
[15:58] <Kerim> adamk: http://pastebin.com/d2Ngy6U1
[15:58] <mikael1_> ikonia: its pretty old indeed
[15:58] <ikonia> mikael1_: it's not old
[15:58] <holstein> !ati | Dave257 this is what i refer to
[15:58] <ikonia> mikael1_: the kernels are new, but they are not in support
[15:58] <Ether_Echoes> wilee-nilee, Yes
[15:59] <holstein> Dave257: there should be an open driver in use after install.. and a proprietary driver from the defaul repos.. and also one from the AMD site that might be different than the one in the repos
[15:59] <wilee-nilee> Ether_Echoes, Have you done any modifications like using compiz...etc?
[15:59] <holstein> Dave257: a very easy thing to try is booting an older kernel.. from grub
[15:59] <Ether_Echoes> I've installed compiz but have not done anything with it yet
[15:59] <adamk> Dave257: What GPU is this?  The radeon driver does have a function where it is supposed to reset if it detects a lockup.  Apparently that's not working in your case
[15:59] <Ether_Echoes> I have done theme tweaks
[15:59] <Dave257> well, I've been looking for drivers for a radeon x1600 with no luck
[15:59] <adamk> Kerim: You stil don't have the catalyst driver installed...  At least not properly.
[16:00] <lpapp_> hi, is there any ubuntu version using LTS kernel version
[16:00] <ikonia> lpapp_: all the lts releases use lts kernel
[16:00] <holstein> Dave257: there are 3.. and the link i gave will tell you how to search for the ones to try
[16:00] <adamk> Dave257: yeah, there are no other drivers for that GPU other than the open source ones.
[16:00] <wilee-nilee> Ether_Echoes, Not sure but that desktop does not use compiz I believe, so did any of this startaround the time of what ever you did with compiz?
[16:00] <holstein> Dave257: adamk seems to have first hand experience with that hardware, i would refer to his posts
[16:00] <lpapp_> ikonia: 12.04 does not use 3.4
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> lpapp_  that's a bit too soon, IIRC, 3.10 LTS kernel is only a release candidate
[16:00] <lpapp_> nor 3.0
[16:00] <adamk> Dave257: I would definitely report this as a bug to Ubuntu and it's probably worth asking about in #radeon.
[16:00] <Ether_Echoes> No. I've never touched it, actually. It started when I did a partial update earlier today
[16:00] <ikonia> lpapp_: what ?
[16:00] <Dave257> figured as much. an older kernel would it work on 13 or do I have to install ubuntu 11 or something? on previous ubuntu versions the error happened constantly and wouldn't let me try a terminal
[16:01] <lpapp_> MonkeyDust: 3.4 is an LTS kernel version.
[16:01] <ikonia> lpapp_: you didn't say 3.4 - you said "LTS" kernel
[16:01] <mikael1_> goatman: gonna try this one, http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-3-9-kernel-on-ubuntu-13-04-12-10-12-04-and-linux-mint-15-14-13/
[16:01] <lpapp_> which is 3.0 and 3.4
[16:01] <holstein> Dave257: 13.04.. an older kernel will be listed in grub.. you select it at boot
[16:01] <mikael1_> Goatman: the one you linked was Saucy
[16:01] <lpapp_> and 3.2
[16:01] <lpapp_> what does ubuntu 12.04 use?
[16:01] <ikonia> mikael1_: why are you changing the kernel
[16:01] <wilee-nilee> Ether_Echoes, Ah a partial update, never do that, that is the problem, it is partial because npt all dependencies are there.
[16:01] <Kerim> adamk: I did install it
[16:01] <Ether_Echoes> ech
[16:01] <ikonia> lpapp_: LTS kernels are the kernels provided in the main repos from the long term support distros
[16:01] <Ether_Echoes> ~ Any way to walk it back or do I need to do a fresh reinstall?
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> lpapp_  12.04 uses 3.2
[16:02] <ikonia> lpapp_: so 10.04 will use the 10.04 LTS kernel, 12.04 will use the 12.04 LTS kernel, so I'm not why you are referencing kernel version numbers
[16:02] <wilee-nilee> Ether_Echoes, Those dependencies show up, and if you are lucky will be installed, you may need to run a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to get them if possible.
[16:02] <Ether_Echoes> I tried that earlier, no changes
[16:03] <wilee-nilee> Ether_Echoes, dependencies can take a day or longer to catch up.
[16:03] <Ether_Echoes> ahh
[16:03] <adamk> Kerim: [    18.110] (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0
[16:03] <Dave257> Ok I'll try looking for a driver and thanks for the sudo reboot advice! that will be useful. On GRUB I'll try a different kernel. see how it goes. Thank you so much everyone!
[16:03] <Ether_Echoes> so patience, see what happens
[16:03] <adamk> Kerim: You may have installed it, but it's definitely not installed properly then.
[16:03] <LrdArc> how can i delete file with special character name via cli?
[16:04] <Memphis> hello
[16:04] <wilee-nilee> Ether_Echoes, And we can only assume they will get loaded and fix this if this is the actual problem.
[16:04] <Memphis> can somebody help me with my brightness issue on Lenovo G580 laptop.
[16:04] <Kerim> adamk: Well, then it's not installable. I tried every possible way and it never works.
[16:04] <Memphis> The hotkeys don't seem to respond.
[16:04] <adamk> Kerim: How did you install it?
[16:05] <Serp3nt> finally got ubuntu on virtualbox whew!!
[16:05] <Ether_Echoes> If there's no fix in a day or two, what would you recommend, wilee-nilee?
[16:05] <lpapp_> ikonia: then check kernel.org
[16:05] <Memphis> Please help. I've been trying to get over this issue for over three months.
[16:05] <Memphis> nothing helps.
[16:05] <Kerim> adamk: This time I downloaded the 13.8 driver, generated distro specific driver package and installed the resulting .deb files
[16:05] <Ether_Echoes> Also, in the future, when I see it asking about a partial update, should I just ignore it?
[16:06] <wilee-nilee> Ether_Echoes, Hard to say really, it is all in the ether what has happened we are only assuming at this point.
[16:06] <ubuntivity> Hello, is there a free simple software that shows the angle of the moon in the sky? (I use Linux as OS)
[16:07] <wilee-nilee> Ether_Echoes, partial upgrades are generally one of two possibilities, missing dependencies or a security update that needs a dist-upgrade.
[16:07] <LrdArc> how can i delete file with special character name via cli? it shows "logs^M^J.20130805.txt" when i tabbed :3
[16:08] <Memphis> hello!
[16:08] <researcher123> PC suddenly closes. cant run Synaptic.Please help
[16:08] <Ether_Echoes> Ah hah - how do I use them without murdering my system next time?
[16:09] <wilee-nilee> Ether_Echoes, Get used to using nicks, not sure what you mean exactly.
[16:09] <__oz__> Can someone help me remove my web-server?
[16:09] <researcher123> I tried sudo apt-get autoremove. Then PC suddenly closed.Since then cant run Synaptic.Shows error.Plz help
[16:10] <wilee-nilee> !details | researcher123
[16:10] <Memphis> hello!
[16:10] <Ether_Echoes> wilee-nilee, I mean how do I avoid these problems in the future when it gives me a partial update?
[16:10] <mikael1_> __oz__: sudo apt-get remove apache2
[16:10] <ikonia> __oz__: just remove the package
[16:10] <wilee-nilee> Memphis, state your issue
[16:10] <Memphis> can anyone help me with the issue of brightness on myp?? lapto
[16:11] <adamk> Kerim: Did you create a new xorg.conf file with 'aticonfig -i' ?
[16:11] <MoPac> Hello; I'm having trouble with chmod and chown for files mounted on an smb share in my home folder (many of which are old windows files with high permissions). Running chmod 777 -R -v or chown -R -v makes all the changes, but they all seem to instantly revert. Nautilus can't actually delete the directories.
[16:11] <wilee-nilee> Ether_Echoes, Wait for a good update, I.E. the dependencies added or use the terminal and a dist-upgrade and look at what it is offering before hitting Y for yes.
[16:11] <mikael1_> goatman: brb
[16:11] <MoPac> (clarifying above: chown from root to my user)
[16:11] <Ether_Echoes> righto
[16:11] <Memphis> wilee-nilee thanks! I'm on lenovo G580. when I'm on windows7 I can use the hotkeys to adjust the brightness [Function key + the up/down arrow].
[16:12] <wilee-nilee> !anyone | Memphis
[16:12] <Ether_Echoes> Thanks, I'll be headin' off now, gtta get back to work
[16:12] <Shadowandlight> can i use the gparted live CD to resize my main HD partition to make it smaller?  Its current;y 50 gb but only using 12... I want to make the disk 20gb total
[16:12] <Kerim> adamk: http://pastebin.com/Mx3D8P5H
[16:12] <Memphis> wilee-nilee I can't do that when I'm on ubuntu.
[16:12] <wilee-nilee> Memphis, To the channel not me, no problem as far as getting the actual issue.
[16:13] <Memphis> wilee-nilee Sorry, I didn't get you..
[16:13] <wilee-nilee> Memphis, No biggie, I use the slider to adjust the screen in power
[16:14] <Memphis> wilee-nilee what slider. there's none in my distro. ubuntu 12.10.
[16:14] <streulma> hello, I tested Ubuntu 13.04 today on a Macbook Pro Retina, some problems: very high resolution, could change with Nouveau driver, but not bright enough. Second point: could not change the brightness.
[16:14] <__oz__> ikonia, mikael1_: thanks guys!
[16:14] <wilee-nilee> Memphis, Yeah there is look in settings for display I believe.
[16:15] <raub> So my trackapd was disabled in bios. It is called "internal tracking device". Thanks to all who suggested that! Now onwards to the wireless device
[16:15] <Memphis> wilee-nileeand I don't have a graphics card on my laptop. I can however change the volume. But not the brightness. However i downloaded a package from the Ubuntu software centre to have the hotkeys run. But how do i run that program?
[16:16] <raub> Symptom: network manager reports it is disabled by hardware switch
[16:16] <wilee-nilee> Memphis, No idea.
[16:16] <mikael_> Goatman: Thanks for sticking with me, mouse finally works
[16:16] <SnowmanX11> Any of you has an Alienware mx17 R2 laptop?
[16:17] <wilee-nilee> SnowmanX11, No polling
[16:17] <SnowmanX11> I am looking for proper sound card adjustment for 5.1 sounds
[16:17] <raub> rfkill list all agrees with it: http://pastie.org/8215635
[16:18] <theseb> help! can't seem to get nautilus+MIME settting right for .tex files.....nautilus can open them with "Open With" but not using the default "Open"..why?
[16:18] <raub> Did not find anything mentioning the wifi device in the bios
[16:18] <Memphis> wilee-nilee thanks anyway for not trying !
[16:19] <SnowmanX11> wilee-nilee: this not a polling, but thanks for being a voluntier policeman
[16:19] <wilee-nilee> SnowmanX11, Cool I suspected that, your computer does not matter if needed it is the hardware the channel wants.
[16:19] <adamk> Kerim: With fglrx installed, run      find /usr/ -iname "fglrx_drv.so"
[16:19] <adamk> Kerim: And pastebin the results.
[16:19] <Memphis> wilee-nilee its volunteer btw.
[16:20]  * wilee-nilee loves projecting users, always a pleasure to actually help and be bitten.
[16:20] <SnowmanX11> wilee-nilee: the computer matters, because if anyone has than we can turn to the hardware level
[16:20] <kdawg> is it easy to put multiple version of ubuntu into one bootable iso?
[16:20] <kdawg> on a windows pc currently if that helps
[16:20] <wilee-nilee> SnowmanX11, Your first question was polling.
[16:20] <raub> wilee-nilee: projecting out of a cannon?
[16:20] <Pici> 70
[16:21] <wilee-nilee> raub, Projecting their perceptions from there own reality.
[16:21] <Kerim> adamk: No results.
[16:21] <SnowmanX11> OK wilee-nilee just for your sake : Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)
[16:21] <daftykins> kdawg: universal usb installer from pendrivelinux.com should do that
[16:21] <wilee-nilee> raub, It's a psych term
[16:22] <SnowmanX11> What audiocards should be adjusted in confs?
[16:22] <kdawg> reason is i use SARDU and as far as i am aware it can only put one copy of it on  the usb stick
[16:22] <kdawg> so if i can make the iso have all of them then i can use SARDU put it on the USB stick
[16:22] <wilee-nilee> SnowmanX11, To the channel not me, honestly do what you want I have been helping here for a long time there are norms and channel technically rules, if you want best help you learn them.
[16:22] <daftykins> kdawg: i have no idea what that is.
[16:23] <__oz__> ikonia: the related folders are still in /var, many are empty. Does that matter?
[16:23] <whoever> Kerim: so what is it , why do you think it isn't working
[16:23] <kdawg> its like pendrive for linux but it looks like it has more options
[16:23] <whoever> Kerim: most graphics on ubuntu work otb
[16:23] <ikonia> __oz__: delete them
[16:24] <SnowmanX11> wilee-nilee: I try to stop this meaning less discussion and turning to question mode. I have specified the card but non of the googled card adjustment worked in the conf file
[16:24] <SnowmanX11> I want to have 5.1 sound out on jacks
[16:24] <SnowmanX11> The max, that I could have gained is 4.1
[16:24] <Kerim> whoever: I am not really sure. We're trying to figure it out. I haven't slept all night last night becausw of this. I got a Radeon HD 7770 after checking whether there are drivers for it on Linux and there are but none of the drivers work
[16:25] <__oz__> ikonia: which ones?
[16:25] <ikonia> __oz__: the ones you no longer want
[16:25] <Kerim> whoever: Black screen after boot loader
[16:25] <daftykins> Kerim: does the liveCD give a display?
[16:25] <SnowmanX11> 4.1 was also not perfect so the only thing that worked for me is stereo. :-(   This is why I started with quiery on specific laptop, because I as tried on many linux forum and channels, nobody has a similar audiocard
[16:25] <__oz__> ikonia: thanks
[16:26] <SnowmanX11> maybe it is laptop specific, I do not know...
[16:26] <Kerim> daftykins: Yes but with really slow and crappy graphics. When I run the Mint LiveCD it tells me that hardware acceleration isn't enabled and that it's running on software rendering
[16:26] <SnowmanX11> So wilee-nilee, do you have any good advise?
[16:26] <daftykins> Kerim: which driver is enabled at that point? radeon?
[16:27] <Kerim> daftykins: Not fglxr, some open source radeon one. Can't remember exactly
[16:27] <daftykins> yeah, 'radeon' then
[16:27] <wilee-nilee> kdawg, There are multi-iso loaders for usb's
[16:27] <daftykins> Kerim: this is 13.04 64-bit i take it?
[16:28] <Kerim> daftykins: yes
[16:28] <daftykins> Kerim: what kind of computer?
[16:28] <adamk> Sadly 'radeon' does not yet have any acceleration for HD7xxx and higher GPUs in Ubuntu.
[16:28] <Kerim> daftykins: Desktop computer
[16:28] <daftykins> Kerim: custom build, or?
[16:28] <Kerim> daftykins: Yes
[16:28] <adamk> Actually, I take that back...  It might now have acceleration.  In any case, fglrx *should* work, but it clearly isn't installing properly.
[16:28] <whoever> Kerim: do you still get the black screen after logon with the dafaults that are loaded by ubuntu
[16:29] <__oz__> i'm trying to delete a folder in the var/ folder - www: Unable to trash file: Permission denied
[16:29] <__oz__> what should i do?
[16:29] <kdawg> wilee-nilee not sure what your trying to tell me that there are multiple programs that can make bootable usb stick, or multiple i don't no
[16:29] <Kerim> whoever: Well, by now I doubt much of my installation is default lol. If I want to avoid the black screen I have to go into recovery root shell and disable/uninstall the drivers
[16:30] <wilee-nilee> Kerim, You aware of nomodeset?
[16:30] <Kerim> wilee-nilee: No, I am not
[16:31] <__oz__> I dont know my root password. I'm trying to run the 'su' command...
[16:31] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | Kerim
[16:31] <whoever> Kerim:  i assume you tried this http://askubuntu.com/questions/296743/problems-with-my-graphiccard-radeon-hd-7770
[16:31] <ikonia> __oz__: you shouldn't know your root password
[16:31] <ikonia> !sudo | __oz__
[16:31] <Kerim> whoever: I have, basically one of the first things I did naturally
[16:32] <__oz__> ubottu: thanks
[16:32] <raub> Now, the interesting part of my wireless issue is that if I add a useb-to-wireless thingie, network-manager will also report it is disabled by hardware switch (?)
[16:32] <__oz__> :D
[16:32] <whoever> kermit: are you on 13 or 12.x
[16:32] <ActionPa1snip> __oz__: use:  sudo -i     if you want a root prompt
[16:32] <ActionPa1snip> __oz__: there is no root password in Ubuntu
[16:32] <daftykins> Kerim: with the AMD drivers installed have you provided the X logs to see what is making it freak out? have you also tried installing without updates so as to try different kernels?
[16:33] <whoever> kermit: for what its worth it should work otb on 13.04
[16:33] <adamk> daftykins: He's posted his Xorg log file...  Which sadly shows that fglrx is not installed.
[16:34] <daftykins> adamk: that's... interesting
[16:34] <daftykins> adamk: tried a forced xorg.conf i take it?
[16:34] <ActionPa1snip> __oz__: if you stick to using sudo (and gksudo for GUI apps) you will have fewer issues
[16:34] <adamk> daftykins: I've tried to get him to pastebin a search for fglrx_drv.so, but he hasn't done that yet, as far as I can see.
[16:34] <adamk> daftykins: Yes, a newly generated xorg.conf file with 'aticonfig -i'
[16:34] <Kerim> adamk: I did. It yielded no results
[16:34] <__oz__> "www: Unable to trash file: Permission denied" i'm getting this... how do i delete the folder?
[16:35] <ikonia> __oz__: how are you trying to delete it ?
[16:35] <adamk> Kerim: Then you definitely did not install the driver.
[16:35] <__oz__> though the file manager
[16:35] <ikonia> __oz__: how did you launch file manager ?
[16:35] <Kerim> adamk: Then the installer is broke lol
[16:35] <adamk> Well I'm trying it right now... So far, no errors.
[16:35] <adamk> Kerim: Frankly, I'm more inclined to believe it's your system that's broke.
[16:35] <ActionPa1snip> __oz__: why do you want rid of it?
[16:36] <__oz__> ikonia: the icon next to the menu button in the bottom left hand corner
[16:36] <ikonia> __oz__: ok - so that means you are not launching it as the super user
[16:36] <ikonia> __oz__: hence why you don't have permissions
[16:36] <ActionPa1snip> __oz__: the folder is 4Kb here..... is yours
[16:36] <__oz__> ikonia: to later install lamp server
[16:36] <kdawg> does pendrivelinux seperate the menu's similiar to sardu like one for antivirus one fore linux and one for windows and one for utilities
[16:36] <ikonia> __oz__: I'm sorry pardon ? what has the a lamp server got to do with this ?
[16:37] <ActionPa1snip> __oz__: your call,   sudo rm -r /var/www      will delete it (If you REALLY want to remove it)
[16:37] <ikonia> kdawg: pendrivelinux is not ubuntu, so not supported in this channel
[16:37] <kdawg> in that case i will go back to my original question
[16:37] <Kerim> adamk: Well, I will install 12.10 and see what's what
[16:37] <kdawg> how to boot multiple Ubuntu iso in one bootable iso
[16:38] <ActionPa1snip> kdawg: do you mean to make a multiboot ISO from many ISOs?
[16:38] <kdawg> yes
[16:38] <__oz__> ikonia: well, i want to install a webserver
[16:38] <ikonia> kdawg: look at linux format magazine, they ship multi-boot CD/DVD roms
[16:38] <ikonia> __oz__: then why are you deleting the web server
[16:38] <ikonia> kdawg: they document th eprocess
[16:38] <ikonia> kdawg: it's not "hard" but it does require a good understanding of quite a few things
[16:38] <ActionPa1snip> kdawg: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/tag/multiboot-iso/
[16:38] <daftykins> Kerim: can you just clean install 13.04 and go through it step by step with someone first?
[16:38] <daftykins> Kerim: i think something obvious is going awry
[16:38] <__oz__> ikonia: because i dont have it installed
[16:38] <Kerim> daftykins: Alright
[16:39] <ikonia> __oz__: then why are you deleting it ?
[16:39] <adamk> Kerim: You downloaded the latest release from AMD, built a package with the '--buildpkg Ubuntu/raring' option, and then installed the deb it created?
[16:39] <adamk> debs, rather.
[16:39] <Kerim> adamk: Exactly.
[16:39] <__oz__> ikonia: do you recomend leaving it there for now?
[16:40] <ikonia> __oz__: I don't understand why you deleted the package, and trying to delete the directories if you actually want a web server ?
[16:40] <kdawg> iknonia google linux format magazine let you no how things go
[16:40] <adamk> Kerim: And you didn't receive *any* errors from any of the commands you ran?
[16:40] <ikonia> kdawg: pardon ?
[16:40] <kdawg> i meant to say i am googling
[16:40] <kdawg> that should help peace that together better
[16:40] <ikonia> __oz__: you've just deleted the webserver, and now you are trying to delete the configs, but you say "I want a web server" - then why delete one ?
[16:41] <__oz__> ikonia: i thought i had more than one apatche installed
[16:41] <Kerim> adamk: I did get glibc errors ( I have glibc version 2.17) but at the end an "installation complete" or something way too optimistic like that
[16:41] <ikonia> __oz__: why did you think that ?
[16:41] <ActionPa1snip> kdawg: after a lot of Linux use, you dont need magazines so much
[16:41] <kdawg> you its always hard when you are trying to learn something new
[16:42] <adamk> Kerim: Run those same commands again, and this time pastebin the commands and their full output.
[16:42] <adamk> Kerim: I just did the same thing on my computer and the drivers installed without any problems and without any errors.
[16:42] <daftykins> Kerim: do it with no internet connection so not applying updates first i would say
[16:42] <kdawg> first you is yeah tired been up all night
[16:43] <__oz__> ikonia: i ran sudo apt-get purge mysql-server apatche2 php5
[16:43] <Kerim> adamk: Hah, kinda late. I'm doing a fresh install of 13.04 as daftykins suggested. I'll message you two once I got things ready
[16:43] <ikonia> __oz__: why ?
[16:43] <ikonia> __oz__: you are saying "I want these products" - so why are you deleting them ?
[16:43] <kdawg> was this the website you were trying to point me to http://www.linuxformat.com/?
[16:43] <__oz__> ikonia: so i intended running that, then installing lamp again
[16:43] <ikonia> kdawg: thats the one
[16:43] <ikonia> __oz__: why ?
[16:44] <MoPac> [30 min bump] Hello; I'm having trouble with chmod and chown for files mounted on an smb share in my home folder (many of which are old windows files with high permissions). Running chmod 777 -R -v or chown username -R -v makes all the changes, but they all seem to instantly revert. Nautilus can't actually delete the directories.
[16:44] <ikonia> __oz__: why are you deleting lamp packages, to install lamp packages,
[16:44] <MoPac> I believe this is a FUSE mount
[16:44] <daftykins> adamk: sorry to muscle in there
[16:44] <kdawg> see if i can find anything on here about multiboot ubuntu
[16:44] <ikonia> MoPac: you need to change them on the server, not the client
[16:44] <ross`> what's the name of the proprietary adobe flash package?
[16:44] <__oz__> ikonia: i thought i installed two different server packages for some reason
[16:44] <daftykins> kdawg: did you not look at the thing i suggested when you first came in?
[16:44] <ikonia> kdawg: not multi-boot ubuntu, multi-boot in general cd/dvd's
[16:44] <ikonia> __oz__: why do you think that ?
[16:45] <MoPac> ikonia: The server is just a FAT-formatted NAS, though, not a whole machine
[16:45] <ikonia> MoPac: FAT does not have permission support
[16:45] <__oz__> ikonia: i was googling terminal commands to install lamp
[16:45] <MoPac> ikonia: hm, maybe it's NTFS; I can check
[16:45] <dabbish> what is the name of this syntax/design pattern: assert bazz('foo')('bar') == 'foobar'
[16:45] <ikonia> MoPac: then you need to set the permissions on the server
[16:46] <ubuntu_newbie> Hello there. I am currently in ubuntu 12.04 LTS live session and want to install it on /dev/sda7 alongside backtrack, windows xp and windows 7. The problem is that in this live session ubuntu installation utility is showing that there is no operating system. What should i do?
[16:46] <kdawg> the basics are the same but aren't there specidics to each individual distro?
[16:46] <ubuntu_newbie> Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/FTIdrVf.png
[16:46] <ikonia> __oz__: sorry, you make no sense, you've suggested no reason why you think you had multiple versions installed
[16:46] <daftykins> ubuntu_newbie: use 'something else' to partition manually
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[16:46] <ikonia> ubuntu_newbie: you're going to have problems managing dual boot
[16:47] <__oz__> ikonia: it had something to do with me executing more than one installation in terminal. it doesnt make sense now i know
[16:47] <ubuntu_newbie> ikonia: I can manage to restore grub later on.
[16:47] <bhavesh> I have a USB device which is detected in windows but not in ubuntu, dmesg gives different kinds of errors each time, ex:  usb 1-6: device descriptor read/64, error -71,  hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 6 etc
[16:47] <ikonia> ubuntu_newbie: backtrack and ubuntu use different grub designs, this is going to cause you problems
[16:48] <__oz__> ikonia: is it ok to install lamp now?
[16:48] <ikonia> __oz__: you already had it installed
[16:49] <bhavesh> I tried connecting in all usb ports
[16:49] <__oz__> ikonia: yes, i'm new to ubuntu. thought i could have installed it twice
[16:49] <ubuntu_newbie> ikonia: I was already running these four Operating systems for two years without any conflict. Now i want to replace ubuntu 11.04 by ubuntu 12.04 LTS on /dev/sda7.
[16:49] <__oz__> ikonia: two different types
[16:49] <__oz__> ikonia: i wanted lamp, thought i had installed another type
[16:49] <ikonia> ubuntu_newbie: yes, and the grub designs changed in 12.04 - hence why I'm warning you
[16:49] <Pici> __oz__: which two types?
[16:49] <__oz__> ikonia: lamp and xampp
[16:50] <Pici> __oz__: Well, if you installed xampp, we wouldn't be able to help you.  That is an unsupported method of installing a web server.
[16:50] <MoPac> ikonia: So even though a file's owner is "root" on my NAS, there is no way for me to sudo chmod or sudo chown it over smb?  Would it be possible via FTP/gigolo or somesuch perhaps?
[16:51] <ActionPa1snip> ubuntu_newbie: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[16:51] <ikonia> MoPac: none of those tools change permissions,
[16:51] <ikonia> MoPac: the point is the permissions are set on the server, however if it's a "fuse" mount as you said, I'm suprised it's not mounted as your current user
[16:52] <ubuntu_newbie> ActionPa1snip: Yes
[16:52] <daftykins> bhavesh: are we to guess the device?
[16:52] <ubuntu_newbie> ikonia: Any feasible soln.?
[16:52] <MoPac> ikonia: It is mounted as my current user. There are only certain files that are edit-locked...apparently ones that were protected files back when they were on a Windows hard drive
[16:52] <MoPac> ikonia: chmod doesn't change permissions for a file?
[16:52] <ikonia> MoPac: there you go then, you need to fix that at the server as it's just exporting the data
[16:53] <ubuntu_newbie> Can i replace old grub with new grub?
[16:53] <ikonia> ubuntu_newbie: to be honest, you're using a dead distro, with a current distro with a different boot method, it's a bad mix
[16:53] <failmastah> hey guys, i assume that i will end up with bricked system, due to the fact that 13.04 server doesn't want to use a keyfile for luks authorization during boot process, i came to this conclusion after i left only Slot 0 with a key file on /boot device (which works flawless for non-root partitions) and initramfs warned me that "target [luks_disk_root/] uses a key file, skipped"
[16:53] <ikonia> ubuntu_newbie: the designs for how ubuntu 12.04 uses grub is not good for dualbooting multiple linux distros sadly
[16:53] <failmastah> this thing was working perfect on 12.04
[16:54] <failmastah> i desperately need some tips on my case
[16:54] <ActionPa1snip> failmastah: then why fix it?
[16:54] <daftykins> failmastah: using a non-LTS server release was quite possibly mistake #2
[16:54] <daftykins> *#1
[16:54] <daftykins> in fact it was so big it was #2 as well :(
[16:54] <MoPac> ikonia: There is no way for me to fix it at the "server", since it's just a NAS with a very minimal managemeent interface
[16:54] <failmastah> ActionPa1snip, i don't, this is another box
[16:55] <ikonia> MoPac: then take the disk out of it and fix t
[16:55] <ross`> what is the flash plugin package?
[16:55] <ross`> can someone tell me?
[16:55] <ikonia> !flash | ross`
[16:55] <failmastah> and i already configured pretty much a lot of stuff
[16:55] <MoPac> ikonia: It's sealed
[16:55] <failmastah> daftykins, yeah, probably you're right
[16:55] <ikonia> MoPac: what's sealed ?
[16:55] <Kerim> adamk, daftykins : Okay guys. I got a fresh non-updated 13.04. What do?
[16:55] <ActionPa1snip> failmastah: then install the LTS on the misbehaving system. Raring is only supported tol Jan uary 2014, forcing a upgrade...
[16:55] <adamk> Kerim: First, try the driver offered by the "Additional Drivers" program.
[16:56] <MoPac> ikonia: The NAS. The thing is buttoned-up like an iPhone; disks aren't swappable
[16:56] <daftykins> ^ sounds good to me
[16:56] <ikonia> MoPac: then how did you put the windows disk in ?
[16:56] <ubuntu_newbie> ikonia: I am ready to lose backtrack. Can i still  retain windows bootloader in newer grub?
[16:56] <failmastah> so is it a solution just wipe all the stuff
[16:56] <failmastah> no, i don't think so
[16:56] <ikonia> ubuntu_newbie: the windows boot loader is totally seperate from grub
[16:56] <MoPac> ikonia: It's just backup files copies from an old Windows disk
[16:56] <Kerim> adamk, daftykins : No additional drivers listed
[16:57] <ikonia> MoPac: then copy them off and fix them
[16:57] <daftykins> adamk: isn't there some kind of thing you have to force sometimes when it fails to detect certain cards?
[16:57] <adamk> daftykins: Not that I know of...
[16:57] <MoPac> ikonia: that's the problem: they're protected! I can't delete them
[16:57] <ross`> ikonia: ahhh, damn multiverse :p
[16:57] <ActionPa1snip> failmastah: its my advise, non-lts for servers you intend to run for a long time is pretty daft imho
[16:57] <ross`> that's why i couldn't find it
[16:58] <ActionPa1snip> failmastah: are there any bugs reported?
[16:58] <failmastah> ActionPa1snip, i don't plan to run it for a long time
[16:58] <failmastah> ActionPa1snip, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+question/37176 this came up pretty fast but...
[16:58] <bhavesh> daftykins: Transcend 8GB image : http://img.misco.eu/Resources/images/Modules/InformationBlocks/1210/TSD/TSD-1/188830-Transcend-8GB-JetFlash-350-USB-Flash-Drive.jpg
[16:59] <adamk> Kerim: OK, let's try the driver from AMDs website then...
[16:59] <Kerim> adamk, daftykins : No additional drivers, no xorg.conf. lspci does show the GPU.
[16:59] <Kerim> adamk: okay
[16:59] <daftykins> bhavesh: is it one of those 'too clever' ones that emulates a CD drive to give access to a device decryption utility?
[16:59] <adamk> Kerim: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Installing_upstream_drivers_directly_from_AMD.27s_website
[16:59] <daftykins> Kerim: sounds good, what's the lspci entry?
[17:00] <adamk> Kerim: When you get to the point where you run 'sh amd-driver-installer' make sure you pastebin the output of hte command.
[17:00] <adamk> I'll be back in a few minutes.
[17:00] <kdawg> ikonia using google site search function to search the site I am finding forum posts that seem to talk a lot of geber gaber not partaining to my guestion specifically and dvds to download but i don't no if they will contain anymore info then i am already readying
[17:01] <kdawg> unless these dvd.iso
[17:01] <kdawg> actually have how they created the cd on it
[17:01] <bhavesh> daftykins: nope\
[17:01] <ubuntu_newbie> ikonia: Atleast the ubuntu 12.04 LTS installation utility should detect partitions. It isn't even detecting 9 partitions. Is this problem also due to conflict?
[17:01] <daftykins> kdawg: you're still going on about this topic and yet you've still yet to respond to what i kept saying =|
[17:02] <ikonia> ubuntu_newbie: where is it not detecting the partitions ?
[17:02] <kerim2> daftykins:  : http://pastebin.com/PgtZ0gqZ
[17:02] <kdawg> i believe i did daftykins
[17:02] <kdawg> but i will scrule up and double checl
[17:02] <daftykins> kdawg: you must not have highlighted
[17:03] <kdawg> probably not sorry daftykins
[17:03] <Kerim> adamk: Are you sure you want me to install 13.4 and not 13.8 ?
[17:04] <daftykins> Kerim: 13.8 appears to be a beta
[17:04] <adamk> Kerim: Given that 13.8 is beta, it's more likely to be broken.  I wouldn't suggest using it unless we know for a fact that your GPU doesn't work with 13.4.
[17:04] <Kerim> daftykins, adamk : alrights
[17:04] <tete_> hi, can someone help me how to install in textmode ubuntu with luks and full system encryption? do i have to first create the lvm or first configure encrypted volumes?
[17:05] <tete_> i dont want to enter my password at boot time twice
[17:05] <Aku506> Hello! I've installed netflix-desktop and flash to watch HBO but it doesn't recognize my flash. What should I do?
[17:05] <kdawg> daftykins SARDU "[09:23] <kdawg> its like pendrive for linux but it looks like it has more options"
[17:05] <failmastah> ActionPa1snip, it's not lvm, but still i guess it can be realted to my situation http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/bug-659688-cryptsetup-lvm-cryptsetup-wont-boot-help-206417722.html
[17:06] <daftykins> kdawg: ah i see - sorry i missed that one then. was pendrivelinux's one not functional for your task?
[17:06] <kdawg> pendrivelinux seems to have more versions of linux it can add
[17:06] <kdawg> however
[17:06] <ubuntu_newbie> ikonia: When i click on "Something else" here, http://i.imgur.com/FTIdrVf.png  ; i am presented with this,  i.imgur.com/VjLQBxN.png
[17:06] <daftykins> well you just feed it custom ISOs
[17:06] <daftykins> no need to use its' built-in downloading function
[17:06] <kdawg> yes
[17:06] <ubuntu_newbie> It's just showing /dev/sda. And no partitions, absolutely nothing.
[17:06] <kdawg> thats the feature i am thinking of using
[17:07] <daftykins> ubuntu_newbie: and that's the only HDD?
[17:07] <ubuntu_newbie> yes
[17:07] <ubuntu_newbie> Only one HDD which is /dev/sda
[17:07] <daftykins> ubuntu_newbie: if you run a terminal, does 'sudo fdisk -l' show partitions or the same?
[17:07] <ubuntu_newbie> 160 GB
[17:07] <daftykins> also gparted
[17:07] <kdawg> daftykins sardu has an extra location you can add iso and stuff but you have to script it urself
[17:07] <failmastah> hey guys, i assume that i will end up with bricked system, due to the fact that 13.04 server doesn't want to use a keyfile for luks authorization during boot process, i came to this conclusion after i left only Slot 0 with a key file on /boot device (which works flawless for non-root partitions) and cryptsetup warned me during initramfs-update that "target [luks_disk_root/] uses a key file, skipped"
[17:08] <daftykins> failmastah: so you decided to ignore all the LTS server advice? :)
[17:08] <Kerim> adamk, daftykins : Heh, sudo apt-get update just crashed my system. Did a reboot and now black screen (as in purple for Ubuntu) after bootloaer
[17:08] <failmastah> daftykins, it's too late for this advice, seriously
[17:08] <ikonia> ubuntu_newbie: is that the right disk, a 160GB disk ?
[17:08] <daftykins> failmastah: it's really not. if you get it working, you have until January then it's done. do you want this to work after that time?
[17:09] <kdawg> spaming this cause its what the word on topic just not to my problem http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
[17:09] <ubuntu_newbie> daftykins: Gparted is showing unallocated space. Whereas "sudo fdisk -l" is showing my 8 partitions
[17:09] <ubuntu_newbie> ikonia: Yes, it is.
[17:09] <kdawg> who doesn't want that phone, cause i do
[17:09] <adamk> Kerim: 'apt-get update' crashed your entire system? I'd run a memory check on that computer then.
[17:09] <failmastah> daftykins, i suspect that the only way to deal with problems is to split them into chains and deal with the most relevant and actual ones
[17:09] <ikonia> kdawg: why are you posting that here ?
[17:09] <kdawg> you alll use ubuntu
[17:09] <ikonia> ubuntu_newbie: I suggest rebooting, and seeing if your machine still boots
[17:09] <tete_> can someone please tell me whats the "correct" order in how to partition the layout with this ugly installer? i dont want to enter my encryption password two times :X want to have luks with lvm, or is there some way to force the installer to use my self-made (with terminal) partition layout?
[17:09] <ikonia> kdawg: yes, but why are you randomly posting that link, what do you want us to do with it ?
[17:09] <kdawg> figure i would give it more attention since it only has 15 more days
[17:10] <Kerim> adamk: Well, it didn't crash per se. Unity disappeared and I merely had the background and the mouse
[17:10] <ikonia> kdawg: we are all aware of it, please don't spam it again in ubuntu channels
[17:10] <failmastah> daftykins, i know that it is a bad idea, but deal is done, i will finish it no matter what, but the first attempt after nothing came up on my mind fast - to come here
[17:10] <ubuntu_newbie> ikonia: I already have rebooted many times and noticed the same results (including that of Gparted)
[17:11] <ikonia> ubuntu_newbie: thats not what I meant
[17:11] <ubuntu_newbie> I have no problem booting to any of four OS
[17:11] <ubuntu_newbie> Yes, i can still boot.
[17:11] <ikonia> ubuntu_newbie: could you boot one of the linux OS's, and do "sudo (if it's ubuntu based) fdisk -l" and put it in a pastebin please.
[17:11] <kdawg> u sure all of the people in here visit the webpage everyday? i haven't visited ur sited in months first time i found out about it. spammed my fb already. think its an awesome idea. think well worth the effort incase on of the 1689 users didn't see it that are in here.
[17:11] <daftykins> ubuntu_newbie / ikonia i'm vaguely recalling a ubiquity partitioner issue that might be what's going on
[17:11] <ikonia> daftykins: yes, I also remember this
[17:12] <ikonia> kdawg: please don't post it again
[17:12] <Kerim> adamk: Running memtest now.
[17:12] <daftykins> ikonia: do you remember what it was?
[17:12] <ubuntu_newbie> A sec
[17:12] <ikonia> daftykins: not fully no, I'm searching, but I want to check a few easy things first
[17:12] <daftykins> ikonia: roger that, will leave you with that one
[17:13] <ikonia> daftykins: no no, wade in all help appreciated
[17:13] <daftykins> ikonia: ah i'd only be looking it up too :)
[17:14] <ubuntu_newbie> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5959601/
[17:14] <ikonia> daftykins: I'm struggling to find it, too many useless "my ubuntu won't boot" bugs that reference the installer
[17:14] <daftykins> ikonia: found one referring to it being GPT, but i doubt he'd have XP installed on a GPT disk
[17:14] <ikonia> ubuntu_newbie: perfect, thank you, lets see if we can find that bug report
[17:14] <ikonia> daftykins: nah, look at the paste, it's ms dos partition table
[17:14] <daftykins> *nod*
[17:14] <daftykins> my point exactly
[17:15] <ikonia> ubuntu_newbie: there are only 7 partitions there not 9 as you expected, is that ok ?
[17:15] <daftykins> http://askubuntu.com/questions/266019/ubiquity-doesnt-find-my-partitions
[17:15] <ubuntu_newbie> Yes, it was a slip of tongue. Sorry about that.
[17:15] <ikonia> ubuntu_newbie: thats fine, as long as it's what you expected
[17:15] <daftykins> motherboard in RAID mode / 'Host Protected Area' present
[17:16] <ikonia> daftykins: that should show up as a device mapper id though
[17:16] <failmastah> hey guys, i assume that i will end up with bricked system, due to the fact that 13.04 server doesn't want to use a keyfile for luks authorization during boot process, i came to this conclusion after i left only Slot 0 with a key file on /boot device (which works flawless for non-root partitions) and cryptsetup warned me during initramfs-update that "target [luks_disk_root/] uses a key file, skipped"
[17:16] <ikonia> daftykins: hence why I'm not looking at "raid"
[17:17] <daftykins> righty-o
[17:20] <ubuntu_newbie> So what should i do, so that ubiquity installer recognize my older partitions? :)
[17:21] <ActionPa1snip> ubuntu_newbie: you could update ubiquity online if you have a web connection then run it
[17:22] <ikonia> ubuntu_newbie: just having a look for the bug report that lists this problem
[17:22] <calwig> Printer Sharing on Ubuntu is simple since the menu is available, however that menu isnt available in Kubuntu, how is the Printer Share accessible?
[17:22] <failmaster> hey guys, i assume that i will end up with bricked system, due to the fact that 13.04 server doesn't want to use a keyfile for luks authorization during boot process, i came to this conclusion after i left only Slot 0 with a key file on /boot device (which works flawless for non-root partitions) and cryptsetup warned me during initramfs-update that "target [luks_disk_root/] uses a key file, skipped"
[17:23] <daftykins> don't repeat so often, it's really frustrating
[17:23] <ro9> how to hide another partition so i wouldn't accidentaly mount it
[17:23] <failmaster> daftykins, sorry, can i make it less frustrating somehow? =)
[17:23] <daftykins> reinstall with 12.04.2 LTS? ;)
[17:24] <daftykins> <3
[17:24] <failmaster> daftykins, too late and it's not a solution
[17:24] <failmaster> <3
[17:24] <daftykins> i'm curious, how's it ever too late?
[17:25] <Scriptonaut> could somebody help me configure my wireless
[17:25] <Scriptonaut> I have a broadcom card B4322
[17:25] <Scriptonaut> and it's nonfree
[17:25] <daftykins> !broadcom
[17:25] <Scriptonaut> I tried a few things like b43 and b43-fwcutter
[17:25] <daftykins> Scriptonaut: are you following the above link?
[17:25] <ubuntu_newbie> ActionPa1snip: I think ubiquity is already shipped updated enough in ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I downloaded that ISO today.
[17:26] <daftykins> ubuntu_newbie: did you get 12.04.2?
[17:26] <Scriptonaut> I will try again
[17:26] <ActionPa1snip> ubuntu_newbie: is it the daily iso?
[17:27] <failmaster> daftykins, it's late because everything i wanted is already working there but this one tiny problem :/
[17:27] <Shadowandlight> anyone able to help me shrink a partition in unbutu, i am booted into the live CD... I have the following partitions.... http://i.imgur.com/wg1JDSt.png ... i want to shrink /dev/sda2 from 50gig to 20gig (only 11.8 is being used atm) but every method i've tried is failing
[17:27] <usr13> Shadowandlight: What is on it?
[17:28] <ubuntu_newbie> I can recall last time, i was successful in installing older version of ubuntu from ubiquity.
[17:28] <ActionPa1snip> Shadowandlight: is the partition mounted right now?
[17:28] <ubuntu_newbie> daftykins: Yes it is
[17:28] <Shadowandlight> usr13: the partition is the root
[17:28] <usr13> Shadowandlight: You are trying to shrink the wrong partition
[17:29] <ubuntu_newbie> ActionPa1snip: Can this problem arise due to some bad sectors in hard disk?
[17:29] <Shadowandlight> ActionPa1snip: umm i ran sudo mount -n -o remount,ro -t ext2 /dev/sda2 /
[17:29] <usr13> Shadowandlight: sda2 is the extended partition, (containing sda5)
[17:29] <Shadowandlight> what partition do i shrink? and how?
[17:30] <daftykins> sda5
[17:30] <Shadowandlight> sda5 is mounted i believe
[17:30] <Shadowandlight> but there is no option in gparted to reduce it
[17:30] <usr13> Shadowandlight: What are you trying to do?
[17:30] <Shadowandlight> i have a 50gig partition with 11.8 gigs of data
[17:30] <Shadowandlight> and i want it to go to 20gigs
[17:31] <usr13> Shadowandlight: Other than to delete partitions, you have only two options, sda1 or sda5
[17:31] <usr13> Shadowandlight: You can either shrink sda1 or sda5.
[17:31] <counterglitch> hey everyone
[17:32] <Shadowandlight> ok i want to shrink sda 5 then...
[17:32] <daftykins> hi
[17:32] <usr13> Shadowandlight: What is it you are tying to do?  Make room for Ubuntu install?
[17:32] <Shadowandlight> i am working on moving this server to a VPS
[17:32] <Shadowandlight> but at 50gigs its wasted space
[17:32] <counterglitch> I just installed steam, it downloads the runtime and starts up, I'm at the window with the option to log-in but I can't click anything or move the window. I have to force close it. I've tried removal and reinstallation and I've tried adding the steam repo to ubuntu and installing from there using apt-get as well
[17:33] <CharlieSu> When installing the tomcat7 package, is there a way to have it not install openjdk6?  I've already installed JAva7 from Oracle.
[17:34] <ActionPa1snip> Shadowandlight: if the partition you want to resize is mounted then you will not be allowed. That  is the entire point of using the livecd
[17:34] <Scriptonaut> guys, so I installed (and activated) the broadcom sta driver
[17:34] <Scriptonaut> however it's not working
[17:34] <Scriptonaut> I don't have the option to search for wireless networks
[17:34] <ActionPa1snip> Scriptonaut: if you run:  sudo  iwlist scan     do you see wireless networks?
[17:34] <Shadowandlight> ActionPa1snip: i was trying to follow guides to do this - http://ianozsvald.com/2012/07/26/using-zerofree-to-shrink-a-virtualbox-linux-image/ .... which recommended using zerofree on the drive 1st
[17:35] <daftykins> ikonia: there's an idea that the second NTFS partition being a primary within the extended could be breaking things
[17:35] <Shadowandlight> another guide, similar process - http://www.fidian.com/programming/shrinking-vm-disk-images
[17:35] <Scriptonaut> ActionPa1snip: I get eth0: Interface doesn't support scanning. eth1: Interface doesn't suupport scanning: Network is down
[17:36] <ikonia> daftykins: never heard that
[17:36] <Scriptonaut> under system settings it says the driver is activated and currently in use
[17:36] <ActionPa1snip> daftykins: partitions in extended partitions are logical partitions, not primary partitions
[17:36] <daftykins> ActionPa1snip: this is the point
[17:36] <ActionPa1snip> Scriptonaut: sudo ifup eth1
[17:36] <Scriptonaut> then I get "ignoring unknown Interface eth1=eth1"
[17:37] <failmaster> hey guys, i assume that i will end up with bricked system, due to the fact that 13.04 server doesn't want to use a keyfile for luks authorization during boot process, i came to this conclusion after i left only Slot 0 with a key file on /boot device (which works flawless for non-root partitions) and cryptsetup warned me during initramfs-update that "target [luks_disk_root/] uses a key file, skipped"
[17:37] <ActionPa1snip> Scriptonaut: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[17:37] <Scriptonaut> Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[17:38] <ActionPa1snip> failmaster: bricked is an irretrievable system, like a botched BIOS update
[17:38] <ActionPa1snip> failmaster: a disk can be wiped and used again, so its not bricked
[17:38] <failmaster> ActionPa1snip, sorry for my english, how should i call it in a proper way?
[17:38] <ActionPa1snip> failmaster: unusable
[17:38] <gordonjcp> yay, disk encryption, the fastest way to lose all your data
[17:38] <ActionPa1snip> Scriptonaut: if you run:   sudo lshw -C network    what is the product line for the wifi?
[17:38] <failmaster> okay, any suggestions related to the main point of situation?
[17:39] <ActionPa1snip> gordonjcp: +1
[17:39] <failmaster> no encryption may be fastest way to get into jail
[17:40] <ActionPa1snip> failmaster: no encryption here, no problems
[17:40] <zerick> Anybody knows about the lpi-ubuntu certification ? How could I get it ?
[17:40] <failmaster> ActionPa1snip, lucky you
[17:40] <ActionPa1snip> failmaster: yeah, lucky for 13 years now...
[17:40] <ActionPa1snip> zerick: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic  this is OS support :)
[17:41] <zerick> -_-
[17:41] <zerick> ok
[17:41] <Scriptonaut> ActionPa1snip: http://dpaste.com/1334538/
[17:41] <failmaster> guys, advices as "get rid of 13.04" or "get rid of encryption" is not quite solution
[17:41] <Scriptonaut> it appears to be disabled
[17:42] <ActionPa1snip> Scriptonaut: do you dual boot?
[17:42] <Scriptonaut> no
[17:42] <ActionPa1snip> Scriptonaut: ok, run:   dmesg | grep -i firm     what is the output?
[17:43] <oz__> i've installed lamp . does anyone know the stop terminal command?
[17:43] <usr13> Scriptonaut: ActionPa1snip https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[17:43] <Scriptonaut> http://dpaste.com/1334559/
[17:43] <Scriptonaut> usr13, yes I followed this
[17:43] <Scriptonaut> installed the correct driver
[17:44] <Scriptonaut> and it says it's activated
[17:44] <ActionPa1snip> Scriptonaut: disable the sta driver and use the b43
[17:44] <ActionPa1snip> Scriptonaut: you will also need the b43-fwcutter package for that one
[17:44] <Scriptonaut> where is the etc file that blocks things again?
[17:45] <Scriptonaut> I have b43 blocked
[17:45] <ActionPa1snip> Scriptonaut: you can still manually modprobe it :)
[17:49] <daftykins> ubuntu_newbie: did you use some kind of partition resizing program at any point?
[17:50] <uvala> hello, how can I get rid of "partial upgrade" messages? I don't wanna partial upgrade as it earlier messed up my desktop (and of others', as I'd read of back then)
[17:50] <_andyj_> is there a way to sign your own kernel with an ubuntu signed x509 so it will work with secure boot?
[17:51] <holstein> uvala: igrnore the message if you dont want to upgrade.. i would open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and share errors
[17:52] <lsdjf123> I know I am going to get beat up for this, but I need a linux server that has gui to run virtualbox.  It has dual nics.  Any ideas?  Using it to run basically untangle VM and freenas VM so far. 1TB hdd
[17:52] <Scriptonaut> so how do I get to System/Administration/Hardware/Additional Drivers
[17:52] <ubuntu_newbie> daftykins: Yes, i did two years ago. I manually resized partitions using partition magic live CD. I recall that after that i was not able to boot anymore. Then i ran ubuntu live CD and restored grub. After that, i was able to access the four Operating systems.
[17:52] <CharlieSu> When installing the tomcat7 package, is there a way to have it not install openjdk6?  I've already installed JAva7 from Oracle.
[17:52] <Scriptonaut> I installed b43-fwcutter
[17:52] <usr13> Scriptonaut: Search "driver"
[17:52] <oz__> i installed lamp but i dont know what folder the htdocs is in.
[17:52] <Scriptonaut> and under additional drivers it still lists sta drivers despite me removing it
[17:52] <stevenq> hey everyone
[17:52] <holstein> lsdjf123: you might wnat lubuntu as a base.. some light GUI
[17:52] <counterglitch> cool
[17:53] <usr13> Scriptonaut: SO it's working now?
[17:53] <uvala> holstein, I tried normal update-upgrade, without dist-upgrade, and the upgrade part wasn't done (saying nothing to upgrade)...if I tried dist-upgrade, I'd probably end up with 12.10 or higher, wouldn't I? but I wouldn't want to leave 12.04! :)
[17:53] <Scriptonaut> no it's not. I clicked remove for the sta driver
[17:53] <Scriptonaut> it's not longer activated
[17:53] <usr13> Scriptonaut: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5959722/  (From: From: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx )
[17:53] <Scriptonaut> but it's still there
[17:54] <usr13> Scriptonaut: "To load a specific driver use *one* of the following commands:"
[17:54] <holstein> uvala: "dist-upgrade" doesnt do that.. feel free and either take a volunteers suggestion, or research the command on your own
[17:54] <daftykins> ubuntu_newbie: i think the partitioning is too broken for an install with ubiquity (the graphical installer) to work
[17:54] <lsdjf123> holstein: you are awesome.  Thanks.  Wonder why its not part of Ubuntu proper?
[17:54] <holstein> uvala: "dist-upgrade" should resolve your issue, and *will* *not* upgrade a 12.04 to 12.10
[17:54] <uvala> holstein, I do take your suggestion :)
[17:54] <Scriptonaut> so, I used that and nothing has seemed to change
[17:54] <uvala> holstein, I'll apply that now
[17:55] <Scriptonaut> I did sudo modprobe b43
[17:55] <usr13> Scriptonaut: iwconfig
[17:55] <usr13> Scriptonaut: (does it show wlan0? Or________?)
[17:56] <Scriptonaut> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5959741/
[17:56] <usr13> Scriptonaut: You are correct. NOt working yet.
[17:57] <Scriptonaut> I didn't install b43
[17:57] <Scriptonaut> I only installed b43-fwcutter
[17:57] <Scriptonaut> is that a problem?
[17:57] <ubuntu> raju
[17:58] <Guest27525> ok
[17:58] <usr13> Scriptonaut: Yep
[17:59] <Scriptonaut> so I should install b43, modprobe again, and then report back
[17:59] <uvala> holstein, I was asked if I want to install some packages without verification, and I said yes..will that be ok so?
[17:59] <usr13> Scriptonaut: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[18:00] <Scriptonaut> isn't that for sta?
[18:01] <ubuntu_newbie> daftykins: I am also thinking of the same. I tried to install gdisk on ubuntu which contains of utility "fixparts", but this package doesn't seem to be available.
[18:01] <ubuntu_newbie> Does ubuntu 12.04 not support it anymore?
[18:02] <failmaster> hey guys, i assume that i will end up with "unusable" system, due to the fact that 13.04 server doesn't want to use a keyfile for luks authorization during boot process, i came to this conclusion after i left only Slot 0 with a key file on /boot device (which works flawless for non-root partitions) and cryptsetup warned me during initramfs-update that "target [luks_disk_root/] uses a key file, skipped"
[18:02] <usr13> Scriptonaut: Actually, looks like what you need is:
[18:02] <Scriptonaut> I installed bcmwl-kernel-source, still not working
[18:02] <usr13> firmware-b43-installer
[18:02] <Scriptonaut> should I remove anything before installing it?
[18:02] <usr13> Scriptonaut: Are you 12.04?
[18:03] <ubuntu_newbie> daftykins: Yes, i used partition magic live cd to manually resize my partitions hapahazardly two years ago.
[18:03] <daftykins> ubuntu_newbie: yeah i think you might have to start again :( hope your OSs don't have much data
[18:03] <ubuntu_newbie> And i highly believe it is the main culprit!
[18:03] <ikonia> ubuntu_newbie: why do you think that's the issue ?
[18:04] <daftykins> ikonia: there's a primary inside the extended, it's out of spec
[18:04] <daftykins> so ubiquity is probably throwing a fit
[18:04] <ikonia> daftykins: ahhhhh I totally missed that
[18:04] <ikonia> good eyes
[18:05] <daftykins> ikonia: i had backup in -uk to be honest :)
[18:05] <ubuntu_newbie> ikonia: This person had the same problem and he fixed it by using "fixparts", http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1966148
[18:05] <ubuntu_newbie> But i am not somehow able to either run it or install it.
[18:05] <daftykins> ubuntu_newbie: nah his partition layout is fine, but yours is pretty darn broken
[18:05] <usr13> Scriptonaut: I'm seeing "The BCM4313, BCM43224 and BCM43225 chips are alternatively supported by the brcmsmac driver"  on: https://wiki.debian.org/wl
[18:06] <Scriptonaut> crap
[18:06] <ubuntu_newbie> lol. I can take a chance.
[18:06] <Scriptonaut> wait so which one do I do?
[18:06] <failmaster> broadcom is not a good idea in terms of support
[18:06] <Scriptonaut> failmaster, I know it's given me *so* much trouble over the years
[18:06] <Scriptonaut> it always takes me like a full day to remember how to get it to work
[18:06] <Scriptonaut> unfortunately they come in all the laptops I own
[18:06] <usr13> Scriptonaut: ..."As of Debian 7.0 "Wheezy", the BCM4321 and BCM4322 chips are alternatively supported by the b43 driver"
[18:06] <failmaster> Scriptonaut, is there any problem that makes it hard to replace it with ateros?
[18:06] <ubuntu_newbie> Give me fixparts containing package name.
[18:06] <MercX_> I am having problems with a 12.04 LTS install, cannot get dual monitor setup to work properly, display control panel locks up and xrandr is repoting "can't open display"
[18:07] <Kerim> adamk, daftykins: Memtest done, no errors. Wonder why sudo apt-get update crashed my system
[18:07] <Scriptonaut> usr13, I usually use debian, I installed 7.1 yesterday and b43 didn't work
[18:07] <usr13> Scriptonaut: But if it is the b43 driver, it should have just worked, (I think...).
[18:07] <Scriptonaut> I thought ubuntu tended to ahve better driver support
[18:07] <daftykins> Kerim: oh wow that sounds really bad. did you only do one pass?
[18:07] <usr13> Scriptonaut: Is your 12.04 system fully updated?
[18:07] <Kerim> daftykins: 2
[18:07] <ubuntu_newbie> I am getting error,   ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install gdisk     Output= E: Unable to locate package gdisk
[18:08] <Scriptonaut> my repos are
[18:08] <Scriptonaut> I'm running the update manager now
[18:08] <Scriptonaut> the problem is now I feel like I have 3-4 drivers installed
[18:08] <Kerim> adamk, daftykins : System booted, no black screen. No additional drivers listed, doing another apt-get update, done no errors, no crash
[18:08] <counterglitch> sudo apt-get install vlc
[18:08] <counterglitch> oops haha
[18:09] <usr13> Scriptonaut: My googleFoo is a bit lacking.  Between https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx & https://wiki.debian.org/wl#Broadcom_BCM4311.2C_BCM4312.2C_BCM4313.2C_BCM4321.2C_BCM4322.2C_BCM43224.2C_BCM43225.2C_BCM43227.2C_BCM43228_devices_.28wl.29  I'm a bit confused ;)
[18:09] <Scriptonaut> also fail, I dunno what asteros is
[18:09] <Kerim> adamk, daftykins : Will install drivers according to adamk 's link
[18:10] <Scriptonaut> I suppose I'll try debian again and make sure I install the b43 correctly
[18:10] <usr13> Scriptonaut: It says b43 is what you need to make it run, *but* the others must be unloaded, (uninstall / modprobe -r them).
[18:11] <usr13> Scriptonaut: It won't matter, you'll have the same problems you have here.
[18:12] <usr13> Scriptonaut: Once you get the right module loaded and unload the conflicting ones, you'll be good to go.  (But it's up to  you.)
[18:12] <Scriptonaut> I noticed it says: blacklist bcm43xx
[18:12] <Scriptonaut> in my blacklist.conf file
[18:12] <JingleNigga> Yooooo sup nerd lifeless booring idiots
[18:13] <usr13> Scriptonaut: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf ?
[18:13] <Scriptonaut> ya
[18:13] <Scriptonaut> could that be a problem
[18:13] <usr13> Okey Dokey  There you go...
[18:13] <lpapp> someone claimed here Ubuntu 12.04 LTS is using an LTS kernel
[18:13] <usr13> But that is to set it permenantly.
[18:13] <ikonia> lpapp: it is, hence the name "LTS"
[18:13] <lpapp> ikonia: no no
[18:13] <lpapp> you are confused.
[18:14] <ikonia> lpapp: the problem is the difference in meaning between ubuntu "LTS" and the new kernel naming "LTS"
[18:14] <lpapp> Ubuntu LTS is a different project than kernel LTS
[18:14] <ikonia> lpapp: yes, I'm aware of that, however you didn't make that clear in your initial question
[18:14] <lpapp> LTS kernel means LTS ubuntu in your opinion? o_O
[18:14] <Ari-Yang> !lts
[18:14] <ikonia> lpapp: and as ubuntu picks a kernel at "release" time and sticks with it until EOL - you'll find that the kernel "LTS" is out of sync with kernel "LTS"
[18:15] <Scriptonaut> well, I removed that line, still no luck unfortunately
[18:15] <ikonia> lpapp: to the majority of users asking "LTS kernel" means a "kernel from the LTS release"
[18:15] <lpapp> ikonia: nope, kernel LTS
[18:15] <lpapp> and I have been told here 3.2 would be that.
[18:15] <ikonia> lpapp: I know this now, which is why I'ave answered
[18:16] <lpapp> but there is this, https://plus.google.com/u/0/+Linux/posts/JCA6uZYiXzg
[18:16] <ikonia> lpapp: ubuntu is not using those kernels
[18:16] <usr13> Scriptonaut: Wait!  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5959741/  That was from you.  Right?
[18:16] <Scriptonaut> ya
[18:17] <usr13> Scriptonaut: Well it appears to be working, (or was...)
[18:17] <Scriptonaut> I just checked
[18:17] <usr13> Scriptonaut: Did you look at the network manager?  Or iwlist ?
[18:17] <Scriptonaut> it says the same thing
[18:17] <usr13> Scriptonaut: What does it say?
[18:18] <Scriptonaut> it says the same exact thing as that paste
[18:18] <usr13> Scriptonaut: iwlist eth1 scan
[18:19] <Scriptonaut> failed to read scan data, network is down
[18:19] <usr13> Scriptonaut: Connect to wired again and do lsmod
[18:20] <Scriptonaut> I'm sorry what do you mean connect to wired
[18:20] <lpapp> what kernel will 13.10 use?
[18:20] <failmaster> hey guys, i assume that i will end up with "unusable" system, due to the fact that 13.04 server doesn't want to use a keyfile for luks authorization during boot process, i came to this conclusion after i left only Slot 0 with a key file on /boot device (which works flawless for non-root partitions) and cryptsetup warned me during initramfs-update that "target [luks_disk_root/] uses a key file, skipped"
[18:20] <lpapp> and what does 13.04 use?
[18:20] <failmaster> 3.8.0-28
[18:20] <usr13> Scriptonaut: lsmod  #What does that say?
[18:21] <usr13> Scriptonaut: Are you connected to a wired network?
[18:21] <lpapp> what is planned for 13.10?
[18:21] <ikonia> lpapp: 3.10 is current with it
[18:21] <Scriptonaut> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5959831/
[18:21] <Scriptonaut> says that
[18:21] <lpapp> ikonia: sorry? You mean 13.10 will include 3.10?
[18:22] <ikonia> lpapp: that's it's current kernel tabled yes
[18:22] <lpapp> ikonia: will 13.10 be LTS?
[18:22] <ikonia> lpapp: no
[18:23] <lpapp> ikonia: 13.04 is though?
[18:23] <lpapp> no
[18:23] <lpapp> hmm
[18:23] <lpapp> every two years.
[18:24] <kerim2> adamk, daftykins : http://pastebin.com/Vkgwm9rP
[18:24] <usr13> Scriptonaut: So you have wl, ssb, bcma and b43  (All loaded.)
[18:24] <Scriptonaut> :(
[18:25] <Scriptonaut> do I use modprobe -r
[18:25] <Scriptonaut> to get rid of them?
[18:25] <usr13> Scriptonaut: Yea, leave only b43  (from what I understand).
[18:25] <Shadowandlight> if anyone not tied up can look at this partition issue that would be great - http://askubuntu.com/questions/329854
[18:26] <Scriptonaut> FATAL: Module ssb is in use
[18:26] <usr13> Scriptonaut: sudo iwconfig eth1 down
[18:27] <Scriptonaut> unknown command down
[18:27] <Scriptonaut> lol wow this just doesn't want to work
[18:27] <daftykins> kerim2: sudo sh amd...
[18:28] <daftykins> kerim2: probably need to sudo apt-get install libdpkg-perl too
[18:28] <usr13> Scriptonaut: sudo ifconfig eth1 down
[18:28] <usr13> sorry....
[18:29] <Scriptonaut> no such device
[18:29] <usr13> Scriptonaut: ifconfig
[18:29] <usr13> ?
[18:29] <Scriptonaut> apparently onlhy eth0 and lo
[18:29] <kerim2> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/FLbXPzL9
[18:30] <kerim2> daftykins: "libdpkg-perl is already the newest version."
[18:30] <Scriptonaut> usr13, I have to leave to work now, thanks a lot for sticking through with it, I'll be back later
[18:30] <usr13> Scriptonaut: iwconfig
[18:30] <usr13> Scriptonaut: Ok
[18:30] <Scriptonaut> still just eth0 and llo
[18:30] <usr13> Scriptonaut: modprobe b43
[18:30] <daftykins> kerim2: were you able to get it to perform a 'sudo apt-get update' at any point?
[18:31] <kerim2> daftykins: Yes, after the memtest I simply rebooted and tried again, this time without any problems
[18:33] <daftykins> kerim2: "sudo apt-get install dpkg-dev" doesn't work i take it?
[18:33] <juniorsa> Hi I just installed ubuntu server 13.04 - Is there a way to convert to an LTS install or must I re-install?
[18:33] <kerim2> daftykins: No, it just points me to libdpkg-perl
[18:33] <PETRUCCIANI> hey guyes, which is german channel?
[18:33] <daftykins> #ubuntu-de
[18:33] <PETRUCCIANI> 10x
[18:33] <daftykins> kerim2: ok, perhaps that's because the driver is for Ubuntu 12.10 - you might have to use the beta after all
[18:34] <kerim2> daftykins: Alright
[18:34] <daftykins> adamk: any thoughts?
[18:35] <daftykins> kerim2: will the end result be to run games in Steam or something?
[18:36] <Sk1Special> does steam work on ubuntu?
[18:37] <daftykins> yeah
[18:37] <daftykins> proper Linux version available these days, plenty of games too
[18:37] <kerim2> daftykins: If it will be possible, then cool. But it's not the main goal, no. I also work with Blender and would just in general like to have a working GPU
[18:37] <daftykins> more are constantly in the process of being made available
[18:38] <Sk1Special> ah nice. do you know if the ms games work too? i get its different for each game.. but it each one auto blacklisted or do they genrally work?
[18:38] <daftykins> kerim2: i'm quickly getting under the impression that AMD aren't caring about making 13.04 work - but 12.10 is probably ok. may as well try the beta though
[18:38] <daftykins> Sk1Special: look at that steam site
[18:38] <Sk1Special> yeah mmk lol.
[18:38] <kerim2> Sk1Special: What exactly do you mean by MS games?
[18:39] <kerim2> daftykins: Yeah, will try the beta and if that's not working, I guess I'll just go with 12.10
[18:39] <Sk1Special> kerim2,  ah just any of the games for windows titles.
[18:40] <Sk1Special> ms flight, halo, aoe\
[18:40] <kerim2> Sk1Special: Ah. Well, I guess you might think it's like two different sets of games. It's not entirely correct. Valve, for instance, is porting most of their games to Linux
[18:40] <kerim2> Sk1Special: OHH
[18:40] <kerim2> Sk1Special: I don't think so, no.
[18:40] <c^^c^^> http://store.steampowered.com/browse/linux/
[18:40] <daftykins> c^^c^^: good work
[18:40] <kerim2> Sk1Special: AoE II HD is a farce, anyway. Worst 18Ōé¼ ever
[18:41] <Sk1Special> kerim2, oe Online. ( im broke atm)  :]  . c^^c^^ , daftykins t/y t/y im looking.
[18:42] <kerim2> Sk1Special: Isn't AoE online a browser game?
[18:42] <guest789456123> hello, I'm not new to Linux but newish to ubuntu, I've just installed the latest version & having the following problems: cannot remote desktop & cannot change the number of workspaces despite following the guide
[18:42] <Shadowandlight> if i have 2 servers..... who are hosting different user data but I want to have the exact same packages / updates etc.... can i use rsync or another method for that?
[18:43] <Sk1Special> kerim2, i dont think so? it boots through the games for windows xbox live looking platform thing..i just know its on steam too. im new to pc gaming in general. beyond like crazymonkeygames years ago.. or a old copy of h2.
[18:43] <saiarcot895> guest789456123: what version of ubuntu?
[18:44] <saiarcot895> guest789456123: 13.04?
[18:44] <guest789456123> latest
[18:44] <kerim2> Sk1Special: Oh alright. Well, I wouldn't know, I jus thought it's a browser game running via some plugin, my bad.
[18:44] <guest789456123> downloaded today...
[18:44] <kerim2> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/e5q6zvns , this is jsut really weird
[18:45] <guest789456123> 12.something
[18:45] <saiarcot895> guest789456123: 12.04?
[18:45] <kerim2> Well, 12.10 here I come
[18:45] <guest789456123> yes
[18:45] <daftykins> kerim2: yeah it just looks like dpkg-dev doesn't exist in there, lemme confirm with my VM
[18:46] <[erk]hacker> hahahah
[18:46] <[erk]hacker> my linux is backtrack based distro in ubuntu
[18:46] <DJones> !backtrack | [erk]hacker
[18:46] <kerim2> daftykins: It's just weird though, I didn't get these errors before. I did get some glibc errors but did end up with some .deb packages
[18:46] <saiarcot895> guest789456123: did you change the system settings or did you use Ubuntu Tweak?
[18:47] <saiarcot895> guest789456123: or something else?
[18:47] <daftykins> kerim2: wait i've got an idea
[18:47] <daftykins> !ati
[18:48] <guest789456123> didn't change anything, i copy pasted the command lines to change number of colums & rows, nothing happened
[18:48] <saiarcot895> guest789456123: what command lines?
[18:48] <daftykins> kerim2: did you enable the source code repo as per the guide?
[18:48] <kerim2> daftykins: Yes, it was already enabled.
[18:49] <daftykins> kerim2: my 13.04 VM has the dpkg-dev package fine. something's up
[18:49] <guest789456123> I tried to connect using Remote Desktop Client using the same IP as I used with PC Linux previously, couldn't connect...
[18:49] <kerim2> daftykins: Probably related to the crash. Something broke.
[18:49] <failmaster> hey guys, i assume that i will end up with "unusable" system, due to the fact that 13.04 server doesn't want to use a keyfile for luks authorization during boot process, i came to this conclusion after i left only Slot 0 with a key file on /boot device (which works flawless for non-root partitions) and cryptsetup warned me during initramfs-update that "target [luks_disk_root/] uses a key file, skipped"
[18:50] <daftykins> kerim2: hrmm, can you do "sudo apt-get update" then "apt-cache search dpkg-dev" and pastebin them?
[18:50] <guest789456123> in the help section for workspaces
[18:50] <PETRUCCIANI> Hi guys, I'm with Xubuntu 13.04 and use Skype 4.2.0.11. When my Xubuntu ist on my skype ist also on. I have make the setup, but that not help me. Can someone help me?
[18:51] <kerim2> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/iK5nrDwY
[18:51] <kerim2> daftykins: Does your VM have Canonical Partner Source Packages enabled?
[18:52] <daftykins> kerim2: top two tickboxes under 'other software' in 'software & updates' ? nope
[18:52] <PETRUCCIANI> Or with other words: I can;t stop Skype's autorun on my Xubuntu 13.04
[18:52] <kerim2> daftykins:  Exactly and yeah, same here.
[18:53] <daftykins> kerim2: our results are totally different, one sec
[18:53] <th0r> PETRUCCIANI, shut down skype and anything else you do not want starting automatically. Log out of xfce, make sure Save Session is checked.
[18:54] <uvala> holstein, thank you for your support!
[18:54] <daftykins> kerim2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5959900/
[18:54] <th0r> PETRUCCIANI, log in again and make sure skype doesn't start, the log out making sure Save Session is NOT checked
[18:54] <PETRUCCIANI> I will try. 10x
[18:55] <kerim2> daftykins: This is just so weird, I don't get it. Did you do sudo apt-get upgrade,yet?
[18:55] <guest789456123> hello?
[18:55] <daftykins> kerim2: my VM is newer than from the CD, but older than fully updated as it's offering me packages
[18:55] <kerim2> daftykins: Hmm, alright
[18:56] <daftykins> 3.8.0-22-generic kernel
[18:56] <kerim2> daftykins: I'm on 3.8.0-19
[18:57] <kerim2> daftykins: It's offering me about 219Mb of updates
[18:58] <guest789456123> guess I'll have to revert to PC Linux Full Monty...
[18:58] <daftykins> kerim2: mmm, thing is updating won't affect what packages are available and returned by an apt-cache search
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> guest789456123, And that relates to ubunto how?
[18:59] <kerim2> daftykins: Yup. This is just odd. Well, I'm using the German repos, maybe that makes a difference?
[18:59] <guest789456123> if I can't remote desktop then ubuntu is no good to me...
[18:59] <DJones> wilee-nilee: guest789456123 has been asking questions but not had any replies yet, so the comment is understandable
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> DJones, I see that now thanks.
[18:59] <daftykins> kerim2: it wouldn't hurt to experiment
[19:01] <daftykins> kerim2: you should mostly be seeing hits and gets too; e.g. mine - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5959929 (wow all the 9's)
[19:03] <kerim2> daftykins: Not sure what you mean by that
[19:03] <kerim2> daftykins: Also can't use pastebin anymore lol, reached limit for today
[19:04] <daftykins> kerim2: change to paste.ubuntu.com ?
[19:04] <guest789456123> no help here then?
[19:04] <daftykins> kerim2: look at my paste, on 'sudo apt-get update' it should be happily fetching
[19:04] <kerim2> daftykins: So the hits and gets are bad?
[19:05] <daftykins> kerim2: nah that's normal
[19:05] <kerim2> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5959942/
[19:05] <kerim2> daftykins: After changing to main server and sudo apt-get update
[19:05] <daftykins> woohoo now you have dpkg-dev!
[19:05] <daftykins> kerim2: go back to the non-beta
[19:05] <daftykins> and try installation again
[19:06] <kerim2> daftykins: Someone oughta fix this, though. Kinda odd to not have certain packages for certain languages. How weird!
[19:06] <lduros> hi, I just installed ubuntu on a MacBookPro retina display, and the average CPU temp that lm-sensors gives me is 62celsius degrees at the moment, with the cores in the upper 60s. My question is: is this normal? I have an Asus with Ubuntu that usually has the temperature in the upper 40 or low 50s
[19:06] <daftykins> kerim2: indeed! i would be most angry at that german repo maintainer - do you have the URL it was using? de.archive.ubuntu.com maybe?
[19:06] <kerim2> daftykins: Exactly.
[19:07] <daftykins> kerim2: that's the very repo?
[19:07] <daftykins> i'm going to give it a go to confirm
[19:07] <kerim2> daftykins: Well, it just said "German server", Ubuntu installer picked it during installation process
[19:08] <klrmn> i have an ubuntu desktop question. if i have more than one firefox window open, it shows me two little things next to the icon in the toolbar, but i can't figure out how to switch from one window to the other
[19:08] <daftykins> kerim2: hrmm ok, it'd be very helpful if you could find out
[19:08] <kerim2> daftykins: Will do. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5959952/
[19:09] <daftykins> kerim2: hrmm was that 'sudo sh...' ?
[19:09] <guest789456123> thanks for nothing guys, bye
[19:09] <kerim2> daftykins: Nope, but according to the help.ubuntu.com link it needn't be
[19:10] <daftykins> really?
[19:10] <kerim2> I'm checking the repo real quick, will try with sudo in a minute
[19:10] <kerim2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Installing_upstream_drivers_directly_from_AMD.27s_website
[19:10] <daftykins> ah yes indeed
[19:10] <daftykins> weird it can't do anything in /tmp/
[19:11] <daftykins> kerim2: ah maybe it's a misnomer - it says packages 'debclean' 'dpkg-buildpackage' are possibly not installed?
[19:11] <kerim2> daftykins: It wasn't de.archive.ubuntu.com, not sure if you care about the others.
[19:11] <daftykins> i'm on the list at the moment pondering which repo it may have been
[19:12] <daftykins> kerim2: if you clicked 'Select Best Server' i wonder if it would go back to the bad one?
[19:13] <kerim2> I'm near the Dutch border, I think it might actually select a server from the Netherlands if I pick "Best Server" lol
[19:13] <daftykins> hrmm!
[19:13] <kerim2> daftykins: Hah, I knew it
[19:13] <daftykins> mmm?
[19:13] <kerim2> daftykins: Got me a Dutch server
[19:13] <daftykins> ^_^
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> klrmn, I believe one is on the left of the icon and one on the right, carefully click on one or the other.
[19:15] <kerim2> daftykins: If it's really important, we could go through the list. I'll start at the top and you at the bottom. Though, I feel like there ought to be a better way than this lol
[19:16] <jefgy> I'm using mdadm raid1. I have grub2 install on the MBR /dev/sda and /dev/sdb.  I recently had a failure and had to replace sdb.  I reinstalled grub and ran update-grub on sdb.  Can anyone tell me if I need to update the the initramfs as well?
[19:16] <kdawg> think i am downloding this for nothing ikonia looks like some of this may involve doing this on said linux machine some kinda make iso script
[19:19] <failmaster> hey guys, i assume that i will end up with "unusable" system, due to the fact that 13.04 server doesn't want to use a keyfile for luks authorization during boot process, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18 anyone?
[19:23] <kerim2> daftykins: omg omg omg, packages generated, I'm actually getting excited!
[19:23] <kerim2> awwwwww
[19:23] <kerim2> Doesn't work lol
[19:23] <saiarcot895> failmaster: you might want to try #ubuntu-server
[19:24] <daftykins> kerim2: generated ok but then...?
[19:24] <failmaster> saiarcot895, thanks!
[19:24] <kerim2> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5960004/
[19:25] <daftykins> kerim2: sudo apt-get install lib32gcc1 libc6-i386
[19:27] <kerim2> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5960013/
[19:27] <kerim2> doing apt-get -f install
[19:28] <daftykins> kerim2: ah, you'll need to dpkg -r fglrx prior to my recommendation above, perhaps
[19:28] <daftykins> kerim2: nah -f install won't help i don't think
[19:28] <daftykins> kerim2: oh scratch that, change to "sudo apt-get install lib32gcc1 libc6-i386 dkms"
[19:29] <motaka2> Hell I have a PDF book which is the result of scanning, can anyone help me convert it to text PDF book on ubuntu ?
[19:29] <Psil0cybin> Hey does anyone know anything about what is going on with the TBB? I have a question if someone can PM me.
[19:29] <vivekananda> hey everyone is histo here
[19:29] <kerim2> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5960026/
[19:29] <vivekananda> histo, ?
[19:29] <failmaster> motaka2, why not to read the pdf
[19:30] <kerim2> Dependency mess :/
[19:30] <daftykins> kerim2: sudo dpkg -r fglrx-dev fglrx-amdcccle fglrx
[19:30] <Rojod> Howdi
[19:30] <vivekananda> I set up the dns as you had advised but today none of my other computers connect to internet via the psk key ( as they did before )
[19:30] <vivekananda> what do I do now ?
[19:30] <daftykins> kerim2: painless process right? XD
[19:31] <kerim2> daftykins: Totally lol.
[19:31] <Rojod> Sometimes while I am using Youtube, with headphones or something, my sound disappear...
[19:31] <tertl3> my sister gave a an old dell celeron laptop, cant wait to get some openbox linux on it and :)
[19:31] <Rojod> Somebody who knows a solution?
[19:31] <kerim2> daftykins: After running that command I lost my wallpaper lol
[19:31] <daftykins> O_O
[19:31] <webpigeon> wat.
[19:32] <kerim2> daftykins: Yah, it turned black. And :
[19:32] <kerim2> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5960039/
[19:32] <daftykins> oh. my. tux. they're already on.
[19:33] <daftykins> urge to kill rising...
[19:33] <daftykins> kerim2: ok pastebin of trying to install the deb's again please?
[19:34] <kerim2> daftykins: This is just nuts man, I'm tellin' you, nuts! I've officially spending over 20 (almost)consecutive hours to get this running. If it ever gets to run, I'll be scared to death with every major update...
[19:34] <daftykins> kerim2: indeed :( i think this is AMD's doing though really.
[19:35] <daftykins> kerim2: i sense they don't have many staff working on Linux drivers
[19:35] <Psil0Cybin> anyone know whats going on with the Malware with TBB?
[19:35] <Psil0Cybin> for people who tried to access Tormail.
[19:35] <kerim2> daftykins: Yeah. I'm wondering if things went smoother if I had bought an Nvidia. Oh buggers.
[19:36] <daftykins> sorry, that's unrelated to ubuntu support Psil0Cybin
[19:36] <Rojod> Sometimes while I am using Youtube, with headphones or something, my sound disappear... Any solution? << I can't live long without music :(
[19:36] <daftykins> kerim2: oh it totally would've...
[19:36] <daftykins> nvidia are a fair bit better
[19:36] <kerim2> daftykins: Still? vucking zucks
[19:37] <kerim2> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5960068/
[19:37] <daftykins> oh
[19:37] <daftykins> my
[19:37] <daftykins> tux.
[19:37] <daftykins> kerim2: it's on O_O
[19:37] <daftykins> kerim2: can you reboot, and if it doesn't come up, pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[19:38] <daftykins> or actually pastebin that file no matter what
[19:38] <kerim2> daftykins: Well, according to the help.ubuntu page there's more to do
[19:38] <kerim2> daftykins: Need to run sudo aticonfig --initial and all
[19:38] <daftykins> oh yeah to setup xorg.conf etc etc
[19:39] <failmaster> hey guys, i assume that i will end up with "unusable" system, due to the fact that 13.04 server doesn't want to use a keyfile for luks authorization during boot process, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18 anyone?
[19:40] <kerim2> daftykins: Okay, restarting
[19:40] <daftykins> the suspense... i can't take it
[19:40]  * daftykins bites down on his desk
[19:41] <kerim> daftykins: Oh my Krishna....
[19:41] <kerim> it's ...beautiful
[19:42] <daftykins> kerim: :O we have liftoff?
[19:42] <kerim> ...can't stop maximizing and minimizing windows ;_;
[19:42] <daftykins> XD
[19:42] <kerim> daftykins: Yeah. Thanks big time man. How can I repay you?
[19:43] <daftykins> kerim: don't worry :) the warm fuzzy feeling i have right now is my payment. now, i've heard talk of fans possibly not ramping up on AMD cards when under load, so i don't know if there is any way to monitor temperatures but maybe try and read up on that ahead of doing anything too load-inducing ok?
[19:43] <daftykins> kerim: of course the true test would be to apt-get dist-upgrade now... D:
[19:43] <daftykins> but i have confidence it would work ^_^
[19:44] <kerim> daftykins: The success made me idiotically brace, of course, so I'm gonna do it right fricking now!
[19:44] <daftykins> kerim: 8D
[19:44] <failmaster> daftykins, amd cards shut down before overheating, lm-sensors?
[19:44] <daftykins> meh, a user woud want to know ahead of warning limits being reached i'd think failmaster :D
[19:44] <killer> I tried umount /proc/ in chrooted environment but got /proc : device is bussy
[19:44] <kerim> Is there a light-weight graphics benchmark perhaps?
[19:44] <kerim> As in a small package.
[19:45] <kerim> Oh wait
[19:45] <kerim> Microsoft got those HTML5 fishbowl thing
[19:45] <failmaster> daftykins, yeah, but from what i know there is nothing to be afraid of in case of semi-modern radeons
[19:45] <daftykins> no idea i'm afraid
[19:45] <daftykins> failmaster: fair enough
[19:46] <kerim> daftykins: http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/performance/fishbowl/ , it's not great but I don't really want to download a game just to benchmark
[19:46] <daftykins> :D
[19:46] <daftykins> SO MANY FISH
[19:47] <failmaster> nexuiz?
[19:47] <daftykins> i still get 60fps at 750 fish
[19:47] <daftykins> aww yeah
[19:47] <daftykins> (pretty old PC)
[19:47] <guntbert> !enter | daftykins
[19:47]  * Aww yeah
[19:47] <daftykins> not fullscreen though XD
[19:48] <daftykins> guntbert: i am a long term channel member, i do not need direction. thank you.
[19:48] <killer> I tried umount /proc/ in chrooted environment but got /proc : device is bussy
[19:48] <adamk> Most 3D drivetrs now sync-to-vblank, so 60fps is normal in most cases.
[19:49] <kerim> daftykins: That's killer, my second gen sandy bridge laptop is roaring like it's gonna take off to the moon at 750 fishies lol
[19:49] <guntbert> daftykins: ? you obviously do - look at your backlog please and don't scroll the channel so fast
[19:49] <daftykins> kerim: :)
[19:49] <daftykins> guntbert: do not waste my time.
[19:49] <daftykins> i am helping people, we are high from succeeding
[19:50] <kerim> guntbert: Sorry mate. We just kinda managed to fix something after hours of fiddling around. Just partying nerd-style
[19:50] <failmaster> hey guys, i assume that i will end up with "unusable" system, due to the fact that 13.04 server doesn't want to use a keyfile for luks authorization during boot process, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18 anyone?
[19:50] <daftykins> kerim: is it downloading the updates?
[19:50] <kerim> daftykins: Yup.
[19:51] <daftykins> neat-o
[19:51] <kerim> daftykins: Te iubesc man
[19:52] <daftykins> kerim: XD
[19:52] <kerim> daftykins: Had a RO girlfriend once. She's a professional handball player lol. Melinda Geiger.
[19:53] <daftykins> kerim: whoa, fame! i guess she had to travel a lot?
[19:54] <thunder-storm> hello, someone there who uses konqueror in gtk/unity environment?
[19:54] <guntbert> !ot | daftykins kerim
[19:54] <thunder-storm> i have a question regarding color-configuration in krusader with gtk-environment
[19:54] <thunder-storm> this exactly my problem: http://kde.6490.n7.nabble.com/Bug-301034-New-Rename-input-field-doesn-t-respect-text-NORMAL-when-GTK-theme-is-used-td806429.html
[19:55] <thunder-storm> how its possible to change that colour, that i can see the text?
[19:55] <kerim> daftykins: Yup. Anyhow, before guntbert explodes: The upgrade went on perfectly, will do dist-upgrade now
[19:55] <daftykins> guntbert: seriously? you're going to keep this up?
[19:55] <daftykins> kerim: great, hopefully you see entries of DKMS rebuilding a module for the new kernel that gets installed
[19:56] <daftykins> kerim: my VM just updated to 3.8.0-27
[19:57] <kerim> daftykins: Hah, neat. My machine's updating to 3.8.0-27.40
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. updateing now.. noticeing a 'unity unity-2d unity-2d-common unity-2d-panel
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> ' in the updates.. :) thought those got removed in 13.04+
[19:58] <trism> Dr_Willis: the transitional packages are still there for the moment, but they are empty, mostly
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> seems weird they would have a update. ;)
[19:59] <motaka2> Dr_willis:  Hello I have a PDF book which is the result of scanning, can anyone help me convert it to text PDF book on ubuntu ?
[19:59] <trism> Dr_Willis: they are in the unity source package, that's why we got the update recently, new unity version
[19:59] <Dr_Willis> motaka2:  if its all IMAGE files you will need to get it back to jpg/png i imagine - one image per page. and use an OCR package on it.
[19:59] <trism> which reminds me to purge those packages here
[19:59] <Dr_Willis> trism:  ok. ;)  makes sence to me.
[20:00] <Dr_Willis> !ocr
[20:02] <wolter> can somebody help me troubleshoot unity? Its not starting anymore
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> wolter:  first test. go to console. make a new user 'sudo adduser testuser'  and see if it works for them. if it DOES - then that points to an issue with your problem users setting files. and you can then reset unity. likely your ~/.Xauthority file is incorrect and needs removed
[20:04] <Slart_2> Hello! I've got an ubuntu-server running.. ahem.. latest LTS I believe... and I'm using iptables to forward network traffic to my desktop, running a torrent client.. when I check I get port forwarding via udp working but not tcp.. but the iptables entries are basically the same. What could be wrong?
[20:04] <wolter> Dr_Willis: yesterday I removed a bunch of .Xauthority files :S I'll test it
[20:05] <wolter> Dr_Willis: yeah its settings related, how can I get a correct .Xauthority file?
[20:07] <echo_dev_> hi i have a network problem with linux mint and the intel centrino wireless-N 100 wifi card, anyone think they might be able to help?
[20:08] <failmaster> echo_dev_, expand the problem first
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> wolter:  just delete/rename it
[20:09] <echo_dev_> I have linux mint 12 running on an acer aspire one with the said chipset and it randomly drops internet connection after a few minutes of being logged onto the network or also when throwing any heavy traffic at it
[20:09] <echo_dev_> it stays connected to the network but..
[20:09] <echo_dev_> anything having to do with internet just hangs, loading a page, pinging, etc, it doesnt fail it just hangs
[20:09] <Slart_2> echo_dev_: since it's linux mint you shouldn't really look for help in the ubuntu channels.. but you might want to include what the network chipset is called.. output from lspci or similar
[20:09] <Marlenee> i update my ubuntu and still old vesion : VERSION="12.04.2 LTS, Precise Pangolin"
[20:10] <Dr_Willis> matanya:  updated how exactly?
[20:10] <daftykins> Marlenee: LTS releases tend to only update to newer LTS, there hasn't been one yet
[20:10] <Slart_2> Marlenee: there are settings for updating to newest release, or update to newer LTS release only
[20:10] <echo_dev_> Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 100
[20:11] <dwarder> what the point in sudoers list if anyone can su?
[20:11] <Marlenee> the latest is 13
[20:11] <echo_dev_> slart_2 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 100
[20:11] <Slart_2> dwarder: you *can* limit who can use sudo.. it isn't configured that way by default though
[20:12] <Dr_Willis> dwarder:  su is very differnt then 'sudo' also
[20:12] <Dr_Willis> you cant 'su' to root by default in ubuntu. a user could su to another user.
[20:13] <zykotick9> Slart_2: ahhh, i thought only the initial user was automatically added to the "sudo" group?  unless things have changed (which is certainly possible).
[20:13] <Slart_2> echo_dev_: I have the same problem but that's because of a known regression in another network chipset
[20:13] <echo_dev_> so what should i do about it? buy an adapter?
[20:14] <Dr_Willis> echo_dev_:  its possivble a fix is being worked on and may come out in a kernel update. but that may take time to happen
[20:14] <Dr_Willis> zykotick9:  only the first user has sudo rights as far as i know.
[20:14] <Slart_2> zykotick9: hmm.. I'm not sure what ubuntu does with additional users any more.. I was just assuming it kept on going the way it did with the first one.. it makes sense to not add everyone as a sudo user by default though
[20:16] <teo2013> Seems I have installed openSUSE 11.3 ( a long time ago in this laptop  ) but doesn't appear on the grub menu. Ubuntu appears and boots ok. Any links I can read what to do or anyone can help me?
[20:17] <zykotick9> teo2013: try running "sudo update-grub2" and see if it gets automajically added.
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> teo2013:  dependind on how its setuop 'sudo update-grub' might see it and add it.. if not you can make a custom entry for it in the ubuntu grub files  /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[20:19] <ctx144k> hello all
[20:19] <knownasilya> Looking to switch user in a shell script, so su [user] [pass]?
[20:19] <Slart_2> Hello! I've got an ubuntu-server running.. ahem.. latest LTS I believe... and I'm using iptables to forward network traffic to my desktop, running a torrent client.. when I check I get port forwarding via udp working but not tcp.. but the iptables entries are basically the same. What could be wrong? iptables settings http://paste.ubuntu.com/5960166/
[20:19] <lonewulf85> Help me I do not have /swap
[20:19] <Dr_Willis> lonewulf85:  you mean a swap partiton?
[20:19] <Dr_Willis> there is no /swap directory
[20:19] <Dr_Willis> !swap
[20:19] <lonewulf85> Dr_Willis, yes I should but it is not there
[20:20] <Dr_Willis> lonewulf85:  there is no /swap/ directory. the swap partion does not get mounted to /swap/
[20:20] <zykotick9> lonewulf85: there is no mount for swap, ie. no /swap.  use "free" to verify if it is present or not.
[20:21] <knownasilya> so, su [user] [pass] doesn't work and man su doesn't show anything.. is there some way to do this, maybe using |
[20:21] <lonewulf85> Dr_Willis, I have installed conkylua and my setup also monitors my swap percent but it says no swap
[20:21] <Dr_Willis> lonewulf85:  then your conky config file is doing it wrong would be my guess.
[20:21] <Dr_Willis> lonewulf85:  see what the 'free' command uses
[20:21] <Slart_2> knownasilya: are you sure there isn't another way of doing what you're doing?
[20:22] <Dr_Willis> or says about swap lonewulf85
[20:22] <lonewulf85> Dr_Willis, It says Swap: 0 0 0
[20:22] <zykotick9> knownasilya: ahhh, using passwords in terminal is a bad idea, in scripts even worse.  the command would be "su user -" then you'd enter the password, when prompted.
[20:22] <motaka2> Dr_Willis: it's not all image files, it is a PDF made of images, but I need the text? is there an automated solution?
[20:22] <killer> how can i edit a file (text) in iso
[20:22] <Slart_2> knownasilya: there are ways of entering a password to su/sudo via script but if I recall correctly they are all moderately to crazy dangerous/unsafe
[20:22] <teo123> zykotick9, sudo update-grub2 didn't work. Dr_Willis how can I make a custom entry ?
[20:23] <lonewulf85> Dr_Willis, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5960217/
[20:23] <knownasilya> Slart_2 im using Vagrant and provisioning with shell, not sure how to work around this..
[20:23] <Dr_Willis> teo2013:  . if not you can make a custom entry for it in the ubuntu grub files  /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> lonewulf85:  your swap seems to be off.
[20:24] <failmaster> hey guys, i assume that i will end up with "unusable" system, due to the fact that 13.04 server doesn't want to use a keyfile for luks authorization during boot process, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18 anyone?
[20:24] <lonewulf85> Dr_Willis, Is there a way to fix it?
[20:25] <Slart_2> knownasilya: why do you need to use su? can't you change permissions somewhere else? what are you trying to do?
[20:25] <Dr_Willis> see if you have a swap partion. make sure its properly made swap. enable it
[20:25] <Dr_Willis> !swap
[20:25] <xmetal> hmm pondering if RiData is a good brand for disc media
[20:25] <xmetal> reading reviews atm
[20:25] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  optical dvd media?
[20:26] <netlar> How can I use the volume rocker to control the volume on the volume settings?
[20:26] <xmetal> looking at DVD+R or DVD-R (really doesn't matter honestly)
[20:26] <xmetal> but yes
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  im not sure brand really matters much. :)   stick to the major brands.
[20:27] <failmaster> why on earth someone still needs dvd
[20:27] <Dr_Willis> all the premium media ive seen in the past seems to be discontined. Used to be some i liked that was more scratch proof
[20:27] <Dr_Willis> failmaster:  to rip movies. ;)
[20:27] <xmetal> true ... i can get a pack of ridata (100) for 16.99 or a pack of TDKs for 26.00 (I have used dvds  and cds from TDK for years ... almost no coasters)
[20:28] <failmaster> Dr_Willis, why rip when others do, just seed it
[20:28] <netlar> The volume setting let you go past 100%, but the volume rocker only lets you go to 100%
[20:28] <xmetal> (power outages or dying burners = doesn't count)
[20:28] <xmetal> that is not the emdia's fault if you ask me
[20:28] <Dr_Willis> failmaster:  i perfer to not get the feds on me.. and finding the movies the wife has on torrents  are impossible.
[20:28] <xmetal> i am leaning toward the TDK's
[20:28] <xmetal> just for the "trust factor" .. even though they are ten bucks more
[20:29] <failmaster> Dr_Willis, ripping is also illegal in ur lands or.. not?
[20:29] <Dr_Willis> Been converting VCR tapes to Video file for the last 2 weeks for her also.
[20:29] <lonewulf85> Dr_Willis, when I try to run sudo swapon --all i get this swapon: cannot find the device for UUID=c438570c-ad85-40db-9431-d6f264221f19
[20:29] <Dr_Willis> failmaster:  its the only way i can watch these LEGALLY bought DVD's   they refuse to play in my LEGALLY bought DVD player.
[20:29] <xmetal> i tried that "dazzle" usb thing for that ... never got good results
[20:29] <Dr_Willis> lonewulf85:  your fstab for swap is incorrect
[20:29] <xmetal> (vcr ~~> dvd)
[20:29] <zykotick9> lonewulf85: update your /etc/fstab with the correct UUID of your swap partition
[20:29] <emr> hello, i dont, its right ask here, but i have problem with oracle12c installation on my ubuntu, here where i'm trouble, app/product/12.1.0/dbhome_1/lib//libnnz12.so: could not read symbols: Invalid operation
[20:29] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  got one by haupage a 610 - for $40 works well in linux no issues.
[20:30] <failmaster> Dr_Willis, you got tough laws in there, man
[20:30] <lonewulf85> Dr_Willis, Can I correct it?
[20:30] <xmetal> many of the things i have on vhs i bought on dvd
[20:30] <xmetal> though there are a few expections
[20:31] <xmetal> i missed a 16.99 (total) sale on TDK's (sold out and by the time they were in sale was off) though i am almost 100% sure i will stick with them
[20:31] <Dr_Willis> lonewulf85:  make a proper entry in the fstab file. should correct it.
[20:32] <xmetal> ridata's may be fine, but i have seen some "they use to be great, now i am getting alot of coasters .. .with a burner that burns other discs just fine" type reviews
[20:32] <xmetal> anyway, gotta go :) thanks for the input, guys
[20:32] <xmetal> bbl
[20:32] <lonewulf85> zykotick9, How can I do that when I run blkid I get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5960242/
[20:32] <zykotick9> lonewulf85: looks like you don't have a swap partition...
[20:33] <lonewulf85> there should be a /dev/sdb5 there for my swap
[20:33] <gerald3092> is there a joli os channel...
[20:34] <gerald3092> it is based on ubuntu
[20:34] <zykotick9> lonewulf85: what "should be" and "what is" is not always the same ;)
[20:34] <lonewulf85> zykotick9, Yeah tell me about it can I fix this using a live boot usb?
[20:35] <zykotick9> lonewulf85: depends?  you may need to create a swap partition, if you REALLY don't have one - and it looks like you don't...
[20:36] <zykotick9> lonewulf85: gparted from livemedia may shed some light on the matter though
[20:36] <lonewulf85> zykotick9, Can I make the swap partition from inside ubuntu now ?
[20:36] <zykotick9> lonewulf85: try and see.
[20:37] <Marlenee> any log cleaner for ubuntu like ccleaner on windows
[20:37] <ezech> lonewulf85, you can, you can make it with file
[20:38] <lonewulf85> Marlenee, Depends on what you need. There is janitor that works like ccleaner.
[20:39] <kari> Hello. I would want to get flash player working in my 10 year old desktop. I installed xubuntu 12.04  and i have  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so. It just don't show flash.
[20:40] <kari> i have ubuntu-restricted-extras package installed also
[20:41] <kari> firefox doesn't say that i dont have flash player.
[20:45] <gr8> hi. I have two routers in my network that somehow conflict; when I set a static IP address in my network settings it happens that I get no internet access. when I enable DHCP, it selects the wrong router to get an IP assignment. how do tell my Ubuntu which router to use?
[20:45] <daniel_2013> hey out there, does any 1 have a few seconds to help out a linux noob ?
[20:45] <lonewulf85> Success my swap indicator now reads 0%
[20:45] <gr8> daniel_2013: to read that took me 2 seconds, so: NO!
[20:46] <lonewulf85> That also fixed my conkylua clock hands weird lol
[20:46] <zykotick9> !anyone | daniel_2013
[20:46] <lonewulf85> daniel_2013, Maybe what is up?
[20:47] <daniel_2013> lol.. ok here is my question, am running Ubuntu 12.04 x64 Unity, on a Toshiba Satellite L745d.  The only thing i cannot get to work is the battery indicator.  I would like to be able to see how much charge i have left
[20:47] <daniel_2013> i have tried every battery monitor i could find, and none indicate anything.  and acpi -b shows nothing at all
[20:48] <kari> when i go to youtube. Firefox is writing to console this: ###!!! [Parent][RPCChannel] Error: Channel error: cannot send/recv
[20:48] <daniel_2013> Ubuntu does tell me that the "defailt
[20:48] <kari> so maybe its not flash error?
[20:48] <daniel_2013> ubuntu does tell me that the default battery monitor is installed but it does not show up on the panel, i have tried uninstalling and re-installing it
[20:49] <Andre_designer> maybe someone can help me. i want to switch over to ubuntu but the breakpoint is the browsertesting. firefox in ubuntu looks different (different font(size) and bolder) and i don't actually not quit good how to do to test different IE-versions read/try/hear to install different IE-virtual machines in virtualbox but they are big and you must what read activate each 30 days. Do somebody how to handle this?? with different broswers. any
[20:49] <NOOPSSTATUs> Is there a problem i can help anyone with?
[20:50] <Dr_Willis> NOOPSSTATUs:  wait for someone to actally ask a question
[20:50] <Andre_designer> maybe someone can help me. i want to switch over to ubuntu but the breakpoint is the browsertesting. firefox in ubuntu looks different (different font(size) and bolder) and i don't actually not quit good how to do to test different IE-versions read/try/hear to install different IE-virtual machines in virtualbox but they are big and you must what read activate each 30 days. Do somebody how to handle this?? with different broswers. any
[20:50] <alami> hello, i want to create a hotspot, to connect my samsung to internet, but i don't see my created hotspot on my samsung
[20:51] <NOOPSSTATUs> ok burn your computer then i till be a (HOT SPOT!)
[20:51] <Andre_designer> have somebody a  answer on this??
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> Andre_designer:  firefox can have its own font settings that override that the system/web site suggests. as for ie, there that ies4linux thing for wine to test them out in wine
[20:51] <daniel_2013> you still with me GR8 ?
[20:51] <NOOPSSTATUs> GR8? Where are you?
[20:52] <xentity1x> Is there anyway to preview a pdf file by hovering over it
[20:53] <Andre_designer> ie browsers in ie4linux is crapp and unstable
[20:53] <compdoc> heh, never heard of ie4linux
[20:54] <Marlenee>  apt-get install janitor = E: Unable to locate package janitor
[20:54] <lonewulf85> daniel_2013, Have you tried to go to system settings> Power and tell it to always show battery?
[20:54] <Andre_designer> i thry that already
[20:54] <daniel_2013> Help needed to enable/show battery status in Ubuntu 12.04 unity on a toshiba laptop.  Acpi -b gives no output, any other battery monitor reads 0% yet battery is good.  Any 1 have any ideas ?
[20:54] <NOOPSSTATUs> Where is a channel that supports Alinux?
[20:54] <lonewulf85> Marlenee, have you tried just using sudo apt-get install janitor ?
[20:56] <gr8> daniel_2013: your "acpi_toshiba" kernel module is not loaded.
[20:57] <McDeffice> Hi, how can I choose to use the graphics driver in Ubuntu 13.04 raring for AMD / ATI Cypress XT [Radeon HD 5870]? "ubuntu-drivers devices" display : fglrx-13 fglrx-12, fglrx-updates, fglrx, xserver-xorg-video-ati. It seems to me that I would have xserver-xorg-video-ati default and removed the other, right?
[20:57] <daniel_2013> thank you gr8, i will look look up solution..
[20:58] <lonewulf85> Marlenee, I have just run the command and it cannot find it for me either one moment and I will send you a link to a very useful app.
[20:59] <lonewulf85> Marlenee, http://www.noobslab.com/2013/06/ubuntu-tweak-085-released-install-it-in.html
[21:01] <lonewulf85> Marlenee, Let me know if that works for what you need.
[21:01] <strixUK> i've inherited a machine (mostly LAMP server) based on centos + cpanel.  it now looks likely that we'll move to a new host, which means i get to choose distro.  centos is out, so it's between debian and ubuntu.  why would you choose ubuntu over debian?
[21:01] <kapostedess> s
[21:02] <kapostedess> hello, what does this error mean? pastebin https://bitly.com/15bKjEE
[21:02] <cowbacon> strixUK: may we know why centos is out of the question? also I would use debian for server since its rock solid and you rather want rock solid than cutting edge on servers
[21:02] <kari> GeForce4 MX 440 that gpu i have :)
[21:02] <kari> maybe the problem is in the driver
[21:03] <gr8> guys, if daniel_2013 tell him there is nothing that he can do to fix it... acpi_toshiba does not exist anymore.
[21:03] <gr8> I mean if he comes back...
[21:03] <lonewulf85> kari, I have that gpu what is the problem?
[21:03] <McDeffice> trism -> Hello, you are on ?
[21:04] <strixUK> cowbacon: because centos pisses me off in many little ways, plus i'm more familiar with ubuntu because i use it on my research and my home machines
[21:04] <strixUK> cowbacon: but yes, definitely, stable is good
[21:05] <NOOPSSTATUs> Jiggy
[21:05] <sk1special> how do i drag windows that are locked to the taskbar?
[21:06] <RumPoint> what is new in ubuntu?
[21:06] <k4t434sis> the name
[21:06] <daftykins> RumPoint: looking up the release notes can be useful to tell you that
[21:06] <k4t434sis> lots, should check their changelog
[21:06] <strixUK> cowbacon: also centos in my experience is old (but i'm prejudiced, since it's not always been possible to upgrade to the latest centos)
[21:09] <kari> lonewulf85,  i can't watch youtube flash videos
[21:09] <kari> lonewulf85,  this is fresh install 12.04 lts
[21:09] <lonewulf85> kari, Have you tried to download flash?
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> sk1special:  locked to the taskbar makes no sence.  you can always alt-click and drag windows around
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> !flash
[21:10] <kari> lonewulf85,  firefox doesn't say that install flash. so it can see i have it, but it just don't show anything
[21:11] <RumPoint> daftykins:  which linux distro is best for a brand new network
[21:11] <RumPoint> in a foreign nation
[21:11] <kari> lonewulf85,   nvidia-settings is empty.
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> kari:  check the package manager to be sure the flash plugin is installed.
[21:11] <kari> Dr_Willis,  it is installed
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> kari:  if you go to youtube what do you see in the browser window exactly then?
[21:11] <lonewulf85> kari, just to make sure try going to adobe.com
[21:11] <RumPoint> daftykins:  need a network for a new business
[21:12] <daftykins> RumPoint: what do you mean by 'brand new network' ?
[21:12] <sk1special> Sorry got disconnected.. how do i drag windows from the taskbar that are locked into it?
[21:12] <RumPoint> daftykins:  Establishing business offshore and need computer with OS
[21:12] <Dr_Willis> sk1special:  locked to the taskbar makes no sence.  you can always alt-click and drag windows around
[21:12] <daftykins> RumPoint: so for desktop use?
[21:12] <RumPoint> but I don't want to use microsoft or NSA tieins
[21:12] <kari> Dr_Willis,  90% white in that video area and sometimes there comes black screen for 2-4 secs and again white.
[21:12] <RumPoint> daftykins:  which linux is customizable
[21:12] <lonewulf85> sk1special, Hold down the click and drag it off
[21:12] <daftykins> RumPoint: ubuntu/xubuntu/lubuntu should be fine then. every one is customisable
[21:12] <Dr_Willis> RumPoint:  they all are customiuzeable.
[21:13] <sk1special> Dr_Willis, thats exactly what i ment..where they merge by default. but that works so t/y :]
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> merge?
[21:13] <RumPoint> dr_willis i mean that can be custom compiled
[21:13] <free2see> ciao
[21:13] <kari> Dr_Willis, it will be just black no video or sound. and when i start firefox at console i get that send/rcv error
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> RumPoint:  err.. all of them include source. so all of them
[21:13] <RumPoint> gentoo i think?
[21:13] <sk1special> Dr_Willis, like when i open terminal.. its top menu bar becomes part of the ubuntu menu bar.. when i open xchat its all in its own windows... but alt+click lets me pull the ones out that merge so
[21:13] <RumPoint> is that the most configurable
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> RumPoint:   flip a coin..  all linux's are configurable..
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> RumPoint:  #ubuntu channel will reccomend ubuntu. ;)
[21:14] <Loshki> RumPoint: cowbacon: IMO, ubuntu has the best support (e.g. this channel) if you are not very familiar with linux
[21:14] <daftykins> unless they want to get kicked ;)
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> If you know enough to use gentoo, then you should know enought linux to know all this stuff.
[21:14] <RumPoint> lol
[21:14] <RumPoint> dr_willis lolz
[21:14] <RumPoint> then why arent i a millionaire yet
[21:15] <kari> Dr_Willis,  when i go to youtube. Firefox is writing to console this: ###!!! [Parent][RPCChannel] Error: Channel error: cannot send/recv
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> kari:  check askubuntu.com to see if others have seen a similer message and what it means. means nothing to me.
[21:15] <lonewulf85> Is there a command to tell me full output of all process?
[21:15] <k4t434sis> doesn't gentoo require you to build your entire system from source?
[21:15] <Goatman> How can I use the mouse in the tty terminal
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> k4t434sis:  somthing like that..
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> Goatman:  install 'gpm'
[21:16] <Goatman> IŌĆÖd like to use the middle button
[21:16] <Goatman> to paste
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> !info gpm
[21:17] <Goatman> nice, thanks
[21:18] <daniel_2013> ok, tried finding a solution, but as much as i could see, the only patch was taken out about 1 - 2 years ago.  Problem is : required kernel toshiba support not enabled
[21:19] <daniel_2013> am somewhat of a noob when it comes to linux, how do i enable / load the toshiba-module in the kernel ?
[21:20] <daftykins> daniel_2013: is that the exact name of it? open a terminal and try 'sudo modprobe toshiba-module'
[21:21] <daniel_2013> not even sure if this is the right name for it : toshiba_acpi kernel module
[21:22] <daniel_2013> modprobe toshiba_acpi gives no output
[21:22] <daftykins> daniel_2013: you'll soon see an error :) is a guide recommending you to enable that to make something work?
[21:22] <daftykins> daniel_2013: no it'll not say anything to signify success, it should've asked for your password though
[21:23] <RumPoint> http://hothardware.com/News/Samsungs-ATIV-Book-9-Plus-Sports-Haswell-and-QHD-3200X1800-Display-Coming-This-Month/
[21:23] <RumPoint> Cant this come with Ubuntu?
[21:23] <RumPoint> :(
[21:23] <daniel_2013> not even asking for password, and i was told i would need this activated to be able to see my battery level on the unity panel
[21:24] <daniel_2013> ok, i closed the terminal and tried again, this time did ask for password and then no more output.
[21:24] <RumPoint> is ubuntu good for work environments?
[21:24] <daniel_2013> am gonna log out and back in to see if this will give me the battery indicator that already is installed
[21:24] <RumPoint> if i want to create a business will ubuntu do everything i need it to do
[21:25] <RumPoint> or does ubuntu have limitations over other operating systems
[21:25] <daniel> well that didn't work
[21:25] <zykotick9> can someone, other then the person who did it, tell me who did the "info gpm" above for daniel_2013?
[21:26] <Guest95864> <--- daniel_2013
[21:26] <jmbell> Hi, I'm having issues getting a Dell Inspiron 1501's internet capabilities to function properly with Ubuntu 12.04. I've tried installing drivers from a live USB, blacklisting native drivers in favor of the Broadcom drivers necessary for the machine, and even attempted to update the "nonfree" firmware, but none of this has worked. I'm about ready to give up, but I've had great success with Linux before and hope to stick with it
[21:26] <jmbell> . Any advice?
[21:26] <RumPoint> zzzzzzzzz
[21:28] <RumPoint> jmbell
[21:28] <daftykins> jmbell: you may have seen this already but just in case...
[21:28] <RumPoint> jmbell:  12.04 has LTS?
[21:28] <daftykins> !broadcom | jmbell
[21:29] <christos_> hry
[21:29] <daniel_2013> Toshiba_acpi kernel module not loaded, modprobe toshiba-acpi = NOTHING.  am trying to get battery status on toshiba laptop.  SOS. am in over my head.
[21:29] <gala> I've having trouble.. I want to use awesome wm, so I've installed it. But it doesn't show up in the log in screen. Any ideas?
[21:29] <jmbell> yeah, I've tried this fix, but haven't had any luck...the problem is that I can't sudo apt-get update since I'm not connected to the internet at all. Ironically I have an ip-address in the ifconfig...so it's recognizing that I've got a connection, but it's not allowing me to use it.
[21:30] <[1]Rapid2214> got a default gateway?
[21:30] <daftykins> jmbell: that's odd. is it capable of pinging a LAN based machine at that point? also for an update, can you not temporarily use a wired connection?
[21:31] <jmbell> No, I can't ping anything. Nor can I use a wired connection. That'd make it much easier! ;)
[21:31] <daftykins> jmbell: what's up with wired? laptop not have it?
[21:32] <jmbell> I've tried to connect via ethernet, but it's not recognizing when I plug in the cable.
[21:32] <mindprodigy> hello, just downloaded ubuntu 13.04 32bit to install on my netbook. If I extract direct to a USB Pendrive will it boot and work?
[21:32] <jmbell> It's got drivers for it...namely the broadcom BCM4311 and BCM 4401 (the latter is for ethernet, fyi)
[21:33] <zykotick9> mindprodigy: not sure what "extract" means... but cat/dd-ing to USB will work.
[21:33] <kari> Dr_Willis, it seems i can't even watch video with VLC. So its not only flash problem :)
[21:33] <kari> Dr_Willis, i think i have wrong nvidia drivers
[21:33] <mindprodigy> zykotick9 I mean unzip the file *.iso to a pendrive...
[21:34] <daftykins> mindprodigy: no it doesn't work like that.
[21:34] <jmbell> But these drivers don't seem to function on Ubuntu out of the box. Even after blacklisting ssb and adding the B43 drivers to the boot list, I don't think the OS understands what I'm asking of it
[21:34] <zykotick9> mindprodigy: i HIGHLY doubt that will work.
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> kari:  vlc has options for differnt 'video out modes' also  one may work. but it does sound like some odd driver issue
[21:34] <mindprodigy> I see
[21:34] <zykotick9> mindprodigy: the ISO is hybrid iso/usb to begin with...
[21:35] <mindprodigy> any program tip to make the bootable USB of ubuntu on win8? plz.
[21:35] <kari> Dr_Willis,  well how to check my video driver settings? "nvidia-settings" is empty
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> mindprodigy:  should be several tools to make live usbs in win8 at the  pendrivelinux web site
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> kari:  what do you mean 'empty'
[21:36] <jmbell> mindprodigy: if you haven't already, try Unetbootin
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> kari:  if the nvidia driver was not in use that tool would say so and not run i belive
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> kari:  theres also the nvidia-xconfig tool
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> kari:  whichis a cli tool
[21:36] <mindprodigy> ok, I'll study that zykotick9. Ok Dr_Willis
[21:36] <McDeffice> Hi, how can I choose to use the graphics driver in Ubuntu 13.04 raring for AMD / ATI Cypress XT [Radeon HD 5870]? "ubuntu-drivers devices" display : fglrx-13 fglrx-12, fglrx-updates, fglrx, xserver-xorg-video-ati. It seems to me that I would have xserver-xorg-video-ati default and removed the other, right?
[21:36] <mindprodigy> thank you
[21:37] <g_byers> Bloomberg, the financial information, analytics and news leader, pledged $80,000 towards the Ubuntu edge O_o
[21:37] <mindprodigy> see ya
[21:37] <kari> Dr_Willis,  what repository ihave to install to get that nvidia-xconfig?
[21:37] <kari> Dr_Willis, i dont have it now
[21:37] <Dr_Willis> kari:  its part of the nvidia drivers package so it should be there
[21:37] <Dr_Willis> !find nvidia-xconfig
[21:38] <kari> i dont have any of those
[21:38] <kari> Dr_Willis,  ok i try to install 173 drivers
[21:38] <jmbell> daftykins, ubottu, RumPoint...any ideas?
[21:39] <daftykins> jmbell: oh crikey the wired is in the same situation? nasty :S
[21:39] <jmbell> Indeed!
[21:39] <kari> Dr_Willis, ahaa! its depency problem. i need xorg-video-abi-11 and xserver-xorg-core
[21:39] <raub> What would make ubuntu think both the built-in and an external (usb) wireless card are "disabled by hardware switch"?
[21:39] <daftykins> jmbell: hrmmph, what's the closest you've gotten? i guess you could manually obtain packages and transfer them to that system for manual installation, that's be so painful though :(
[21:40] <raub> Don't think that can be bios related
[21:40] <jmbell> I've actually already tried that...it was painful lol
[21:40] <jmbell> and unproductive, at least as far as I've determined
[21:41] <mobileblue> a
[21:42] <derrik> whats the closest thing to windows device manager in linux? and is there any way to know if some driver is not working properly, like !-symbol in windows?
[21:42] <daftykins> jmbell: is your network using encryption?
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> !hwinfo
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> !info hwinfo
[21:43] <MonkeyDust> derrik  don't say the name of that other OS too often, please, it's very disturbing
[21:43] <derrik> :)
[21:43] <kari> booting...
[21:43] <raub> and rfkill only reports one of the devices
[21:43] <jmbell> daftykins: No encryption that I know of. I'm able to get internet (wired and wireless) on my dell XPS, so I don't think it's a network side issue.
[21:44] <derrik> thanks willis
[21:44] <daftykins> jmbell: so completely open wireless network, no key needed to join?
[21:44] <daftykins> key/password
[21:45] <jmbell> daftykins: Yeah, at least the wired connection is. The wireless has a key, but I cannot see any wireless connections. In fact, the "Enable Wireless" is missing from the upper right menu
[21:46] <jrtappers> Anyone know any causes of chmod: changing permissions of ŌĆś/etc/sudoersŌĆÖ: Operation not permitted?
[21:46] <daftykins> jmbell: oh right - typically network-manager can't manage an interface if it's being referred to in /etc/network/interfaces
[21:46] <jrtappers> It is blocking me from fixing an audio problem
[21:46] <tones> I just started to install lubuntu 13.04 and it says minimum of 4gigs hd space needed. I thought it was 2 gigs minimum. My ssd is 4gigs
[21:47] <daniel_2013> i was informed my problem is that the toshiba-acpi module is not loaded into the kernel, sudo modprobe toshiba-acpi returns nothing and nothing happens, i wish to see my battery charge level, acpi -v outputs : acpi 1.6
[21:47] <daniel_2013> Copyright (C) 2001 Grahame Bowland.
[21:47] <daniel_2013>               2008-2012 Michael Meskes.
[21:47] <daniel_2013> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
[21:47] <daniel_2013> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  I do not know enough to fix this.. any one can help me ?
[21:47] <FloodBot1> daniel_2013: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:47] <jrtappers> Never mind, I have an idea
[21:47] <daftykins> tones: O_O this an ancient netbook?
[21:47] <tones> daftykins, yes and lubuntu runs great on it
[21:47] <tones> from the usb
[21:47] <tones> so I want to install it
[21:48] <daftykins> tones: you might be able to try and find a minimal install version
[21:48] <daniel_2013> toshset is installed but shows not enabled.
[21:48] <daftykins> tones: i think you'll really struggle on that though
[21:48] <jmbell> daftykins: the contents of that file are "auto lo
[21:48] <jmbell> iface lo inet loopback"
[21:49] <daftykins> jmbell: ah, that's ok then. i'd imagine you've done a restart since getting the driver going
[21:50] <jmbell> yeah, each change I've made has been followed by a hopeful sudo reboot. ;)
[21:50] <daftykins> ^_^
[21:50] <tones> daftykins, is there a site that lists valid minimal hd installs of previous versions of ubuntu?
[21:51] <daniel_2013> i was informed my problem is that the toshiba-acpi module is not loaded into the kernel, sudo modprobe toshiba-acpi returns nothing and nothing happens, i wish to see my battery charge level, acpi -v outputs : acpi 1.6 . Am somewhat new to linux, can any1 help ?
[21:51] <tones> 3gis max would be good
[21:51] <tones> gigs
[21:52] <daftykins> tones: none i know of for spins such as lubuntu i'm afraid
[21:52] <daftykins> tones: although it might be an option to use a generic ubuntu minimal ISO then install parts of lubuntu slowly - could be hard though
[21:53] <daniel_2013> tones might be better off with arch if he needs a low hd install.
[21:55] <daniel_2013> how do i enable / install toshiba-acpi kernel module, and where do i find it.
[21:55] <jmbell> tones: There is also DSL (Damn Small Linux), which takes something like 50 MiB if I remember correctly. Not sure what kind of support it provides though.
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> tones:  tiny core linux = 13mb :)
[21:56] <daniel_2013> i would go with puppy linux before goin damn small.
[21:56] <daftykins> puppy that's the one i was thinking of
[21:56] <tones> puppy for some reason doesnt work will on this machine
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> Puppylinux is rather.. weird. :) tiny-core is also very unusual in ways
[21:56] <daniel_2013> had an old laptop with 256mb ram running on that
[21:56] <tones> tiny core I didnt get the hang of
[21:56] <daniel_2013> true, they are, but effective
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> Tinycore has rather unusual design goals. ;)
[21:57] <tones> oh well, crunchbang I guess
[21:57] <daniel_2013> like i said, puppy has everything you could need and is a rather small install.
[21:57] <Guest60858> hi
[21:58] <daftykins> hi
[21:58] <daniel_2013> now, any toshiba laptops out there that have solved this toshiba-acpi kernel module thing.... am stuck, cannot see my battery charge level
[21:58] <staykov> hey - im using amavis with postfix/dovecott/etc, following the wiki page
[21:59] <staykov> getting an odd "Alias expansion error" after upgrading postfix: http://pastie.org/8216403
[21:59] <Guest60858> i keep getting DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.NotFound: The given volume was not found when trying to format usb stick for a startup disk
[21:59] <Guest60858> anyone know why?
[21:59] <ikonia> staykov: upgrading postfix how ?
[21:59] <failmaster> hey guys, i assume that i will end up with "unusable" system, due to the fact that 13.04 server doesn't want to use a keyfile for luks authorization during boot process, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18 anyone?
[22:00] <daniel_2013> guest60858 did you try using gparted and creating a new partition table on the usb stick ?
[22:02] <Guest60858> daniel_2013, no gparted doesnt reconise the usb stick
[22:02] <daniel_2013> ouch..
[22:02] <Guest60858> oh hang on it gives me format option now....do i format in ext4 or fat16?
[22:03] <sk1special> how do i make the workspace switcher work as two on top of two instead of four in a row?
[22:03] <daniel_2013> if you can go fat32
[22:03] <sk1special> 13.04
[22:03] <daniel_2013> are you using the flash key as install disc or as install hd ?
[22:03] <Guest60858> daniel_2013, thanks ...ill try that also in diff usb port
[22:04] <daniel_2013> ur welcome.
[22:04] <Guest60858> daniel_2013, install disc
[22:04] <daniel_2013> then fat32 should be fine, don't forget to flag partition as bootable.
[22:05] <Guest60858> also its an 8gb stick, would that make any difference?
[22:05] <daniel_2013> nope
[22:05] <daniel_2013> i have a 32g as fat32
[22:05] <daniel_2013> sorry not true.. its ntfs
[22:06] <jmbell> daftykins: think there is another distro with better broadcom support? Or should I seek further support and wait it out? I've read so many forums citing success with the inspiron 1500 series, but I've had no such luck.
[22:06] <daniel_2013> am but should still work
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> i dont think you can use ntfs for a live-usb  but it may be changed these days
[22:06] <phox> before I go an write it to a USB flash drive, can anyone confirm if the default install ISOs will boot from USB?
[22:06] <phox> *and
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> phox:  you can image the iso to flash straight and it should boot fine
[22:06] <fellayaboy> is there a migration tool to migrate all info and programs to an new computer from an old computer?
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> phox:  but im not clear on what you are doing exactly
[22:06] <phox> Dr_Willis: cool thanks.
[22:06] <phox> Dr_Willis: what you said
[22:07] <daftykins> jmbell: i'm too newb with that question i'm afraid - not enough experience cross-distro
[22:07] <phox> heh
[22:07] <daniel_2013> sounds like he copying linux iso to flash key.
[22:07] <Guest60858> daniel_2013, srt do i format b4 creating partition?
[22:07] <phox> dd, yes.
[22:07] <daniel_2013> no after
[22:07] <daftykins> jmbell: i'd be up for helping go through it but tonight i am absolutely exhausted :)
[22:07] <derrik> if i use lshw to list hardware as html.. and then i open html file and some hardware is red, what does that mean?
[22:07] <phox> whenever it finishes downloading :P
[22:07] <phox> it apparently picked me a crap mirror, yay
[22:07] <phox> so much for being in I2
[22:07] <daniel_2013> lol
[22:08] <fellayaboy> is there a migration tool or a easy transfer software for ubuntu?
[22:08] <james4k> if i have an ubuntu desktop install and i want to remove all packages but what you get from mini.iso basically... is there a way to do so?
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> fellayaboy:  not that ive ever noticed.
[22:08] <pixelshuck> Hi guys, is there any way to install ubuntu using only Linux Mint? No boot media
[22:08] <daniel_2013> REQUEST FOR HELP, toshiba-acpi kernel module not loaded.. how do i do this if sudo modprobe toshiba-acpi seems to do nothing
[22:08] <fellayaboy> similar to migration-assistance in mac and windows easy transfer
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> pixelshuck:  debootstrap. or setup grub2 to boot the ISO from hard drive
[22:09]  * phox suggests option #2 there
[22:09] <jmbell> No problem. Thanks daftykins. Anyone else have a suggestion for making the dell inspiron 1501 connect to the internet? All necessary drivers are installed, but none appear to be functioning properly.
[22:09] <phox> grub's imgboot stuff is cool
[22:09] <holstein> jmbell: i would say, it will be easier to get the mini.iso and install
[22:09] <MercX> what hardware do you have?
[22:09] <holstein> jmbell: sorry.. james4k ^^
[22:10] <daniel_2013> jmbell if you have a usb wireless adapter, install it and use it to do updates and upgrades, and hopefully that'll work
[22:10] <MercX> i have the broacom and the intel hardware working with the dell inspiron 1500 series laptops
[22:10] <jmbell> I don't have one on hand. I've been loading via another computer (the one I'm on now). But even with the updated drivers and firmware it doesn't seem to work
[22:11] <jmbell> I've got broadcom as well
[22:11] <Guest60858> do i make partition in msdos? it doesnt work and wont let me format
[22:11] <MercX> you have tried the b43 drivers?
[22:11] <holstein> Guest60858: you are using dos?
[22:11] <jmbell> MercX: The wired and wireless connections don't show up. I've tried the b43 drivers and a few others as well
[22:11] <holstein> Guest60858: i use gparted from a live CD
[22:12] <MercX> fresh install of 13.10?
[22:12] <james4k> holstein: yeah, you're probably right
[22:12] <Guest60858> holstein, no...sry was using wrong thing
[22:12] <daniel_2013> jmbell are you using the linux drivers or are you using ndiswrapper and the windows drivers ?
[22:12] <jmbell> 12.04
[22:12] <MercX> strange
[22:12] <pixelshuck> Which one is fastest/Easiest?
[22:12] <jmbell> daniel_2013: I've tried to use the ndiswrapper, but I first started with the linux drivers and a firmware update
[22:12] <Guest60858> is working now
[22:13] <jmbell> Maybe I didn't use the ndiswrapper correctly? Likewise for the firmware/installed drivers? I've only been using linux for a few months now.
[22:14] <MercX> i have never used ndiswrapper so i couldn't help you there
[22:14] <daniel_2013> jmbell, comming from a noob who just figured out how to use ndiswrapper about 3 months ago, you are doing the ndiswrapper -m, ndiswrapper-ma and modprobe ndiswrapper right ?
[22:14] <MercX> run this "lspci | grep Network"
[22:14] <holstein> there is an ndis-gtk gui frontend
[22:15] <daniel_2013> i find the terminal ndiswrapper easier
[22:15] <daniel_2013> can anyone help me with toshiba-acpi kernel module
[22:16] <holstein> daniel_2013: in what way?
[22:16] <Guest60858> daniel_2013, im not sure
[22:16] <jmbell> I am not exactly sure, daniel_2013. Mercx, if you've gotten yours to work, let me know how.  The output from the lspci is Broadcom Corp. BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[22:16] <holstein> !broadcom | jmbell
[22:17] <holstein> jmbell: i always refer to that and just install,manually, whatever is needed
[22:17] <daniel_2013> i am trying to get my battery charge level to show, and i was told that apparently i don't have the toshiba-acpi kernel module loaded.  yet when i try modprobe kernel-acpi, i get no output and nothing to show bat level even tho the monitors are install
[22:17] <benkillin> does anybody have any examples of people using ubuntu for professional audio usage such as live concerts and studio recording?
[22:17] <holstein> benkillin: yes
[22:17] <MercX> las ttime i got it to work i used similar instructions
[22:17] <MercX> http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/how-to-install-broadcom-wireless-drivers
[22:17] <daniel_2013> when i do acpi -v it does say that acpi version 1.6 is installed and everything else on this laptop works fine
[22:17] <holstein> benkillin: http://holstein.bandcamp.com/album/open
[22:17] <Guest60858> is there a better prog to make start up usb with?
[22:18] <jmbell> holstein: I've installed all drivers necessary to make this work...but none seem to solve the problem I'm having.
[22:18] <holstein> benkillin: http://byronhedgepeth.mikeholstein.info/
[22:18] <daniel_2013> yes there is.. called startup disc creator
[22:18] <Guest60858> is that the one thats pre installed?
[22:18] <holstein> benkillin: check #opensourcemusicians for more examples
[22:19] <daniel_2013> yes
[22:19] <Guest60858> ok thats not working
[22:19] <holstein> jmbell: did you reference the wiki?
[22:19] <daniel_2013> should
[22:19] <benkillin> thanks holstein
[22:19] <Guest60858> but its not booting
[22:19] <Guest60858> ive tried twice
[22:19] <failmaster> hey guys, i assume that i will end up with "unusable" system, due to the fact that 13.04 server doesn't want to use a keyfile for luks authorization during boot process, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18 anyone?
[22:20] <jmbell> holstein: yeah, I've been through it with no luck. I don't think I've deviated from the instructions there.
[22:20] <holstein> jmbell: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer is what i use for that chip.. are you sure the chip is functional?
[22:20] <daniel_2013> guest60858 take the flash key and open gparted and check to make sure its flagged as bootable
[22:20] <holstein> jmbell: you can always try a live CD, and run sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer ...it works for me without rebot
[22:20] <holstein> reboot*
[22:21] <Guest60858> daniel_2013, yeh it was the 2 previous times i tried
[22:21] <Guest60858> it wont let me create partition table...only format now
[22:21] <daniel_2013> is your bios set to boot from flash key, and is it able to do so
[22:21] <Guest60858> yeh
[22:22] <daniel_2013> guest60858 : it will only let you creat a partition if you delete the partition that is there
[22:22] <Guest60858> i use 1 time start up from usb
[22:22] <Guest60858> daniel_2013, says unallocated
[22:22] <jmbell> holstein: I can't install the firmware from the apt-get repos. I don't even have a wired connection available. With the live USB, the system doesn't seem to pull from the cd...it's still looking for the repos online. The chip was working before I installed ubuntu.
[22:22] <Bambi> --Hi, niggaz! :))
[22:22] <Guest60858> sry no unknown
[22:22] <daniel_2013> then just create a partition without creating a new table
[22:22] <holstein> jmbell: the "easy" way will be to wire up.. if not, you'll need to follow the offline instructions.. which, i did once
[22:23] <daniel_2013> any1 on with a toshiba laptop ?
[22:23] <Guest60858> ok
[22:23] <holstein> jmbell: what do i suggest? go, with a live CD, to a friends house.. wire up.. install.. test.. install into the main OS and enjoy
[22:23] <Guest60858> then use usb start up prog?
[22:23] <daniel_2013> yep
[22:24] <Guest60858> do i need to format in usb format prog?
[22:24] <holstein> Guest60858: prog?
[22:24] <Guest60858> program
[22:24] <jmbell> holstein: I cannot use a wired connection. I'm working from my laptop right now. When I plug in, the computer doesn't know there's an ethernet cable plugged in.
[22:24] <daniel_2013> you can try without but i do not think that the startup disc creator will see flashkey before its formatted somehow
[22:24] <holstein> Guest60858: what are you trying to do? boot a USB stick with live ubuntu?.. i use a fat32 formatted stick with unetbootin
[22:25] <jmbell> ^(my other laptop, sorry). I'm working on a friend's
[22:25] <Guest60858> install from usb
[22:25] <holstein> jmbell: is the wired connection disabled in the bios?
[22:25] <jmbell> holstein: No, it's not
[22:25] <holstein> jmbell: what have you done to try and and install without networking? have you gotten sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer to work in offline mode?
[22:25] <NickRice> Anyone else getting a super hot macbook after an hour of ubuntu use?  battery life decreases by 75% as well
[22:25] <Bambi> http://cdn.funscrape.com/q/qQEhXqR.gif
[22:25] <holstein> NickRice: yes
[22:25] <softcoder> running ubu 13.04 64 bit
[22:25] <softcoder> dual monitor
[22:26] <softcoder> using a KVM
[22:26] <softcoder> 3 monitors.. middle is shared as primary for both computers
[22:26] <NickRice> Is there no fix for it lol?   Just Ubuntu errors?
[22:26] <Guest60858> Bus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.NotFound: The given volume was not found
[22:26] <Guest60858> back to where i started
[22:26] <fishcooker> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[22:26] <fishcooker> /dev/sdb1             7,0G  6,7G     0 100% /
[22:26] <softcoder> when i toggle to PC #2... after a while ubu moves everything to the non primary monitor
[22:26] <jmbell> holstein: I've installed the packages onto my computer, coppied them to a USB stick and attempted to install them individually on my friend's dell.
[22:27] <softcoder> thats driving me nuts.. how do i fix that?
[22:27] <fishcooker> how to trace back those using
[22:27] <holstein> NickRice it has nothing to do with ubuntu.. apple or intel or whomever made the hardware is always welcome and encouraged to support that hardware in linux/ubuntu
[22:27] <NickRice> Naw I meant, I just didn't know if ubuntu was able to handle my fans properly or something
[22:27] <holstein> NickRice: you can try other graphics drivers.. or other kernel versions from live CD's and see if its "better"
[22:27] <holstein> NickRice: if a driver is present, the the OS will work with the hardware
[22:27] <NickRice> I was thinking actually, unity might be if there was a way to disable/replace it
[22:27] <holstein> NickRice: doesnt matter what OS
[22:27] <pixelshuck> How do I know my grub version?
[22:28] <holstein> !nounity
[22:28] <holstein> NickRice: .. or, just try a lubuntu or xubuntu live CD
[22:28] <holstein> NickRice: im not runing unity on mine
[22:28] <pixelshuck> How do I know my grub version?
[22:28] <holstein> pixelshuck: i would use a package manager.. and please dont repeat
[22:28] <softcoder> can anyone help me with this problem?
[22:28] <softcoder> or must i re-explain it better?
[22:29] <zykotick9> pixelshuck: try "apt-cache policy grub2"
[22:29] <holstein> softcoder: i used a different KVM
[22:29] <pixelshuck> Thanks
[22:29] <softcoder> holstein, did you the same issue and another KVM fixed it?
[22:29] <NickRice> Naww It's gotta be on a partition, i prefer that way.  If the driver was installed it wouldn't just be on the partition for osx then?
[22:30] <holstein> softcoder: not sure if "fixed" is the right term, but yes.. another unit "behaved" differently
[22:30] <softcoder> please tell me the EXACT model etc..
[22:30] <softcoder> i am using trendnet TK-409
[22:31] <holstein> softcoder: i dont have that in front of me.. and i cant remember which did it and which didnt
[22:31] <fishcooker> i don't know where location that consume much space
[22:34] <columb> Hey, could someone suggest me a wallpaper switcher for unity? To switch wallpaper every boot from my folder with wallpapers?
[22:35] <NickRice> holstein: Y'know, I use efi to boot, I got applesmc running, Im sure there were a few more errors I sorted out, Most people said this helped with them, is there really no known fix for it at this time?
[22:36] <holstein> NickRice: i mean, the definitive "fix" is proper driver support.. and ubuntu nor linux makes that hardwarwe.. so it can be challenging
[22:38] <RumPoint> just a world in motion
[22:38] <RumPoint> more peoplez
[22:38] <RumPoint> stuck here
[22:39] <kkkkk> Guys, how can I change my Ip, I am on tor. using hexchat
[22:40] <benkillin> lol
[22:41] <kkkkk> benkillin, can uhelp?
[22:42] <NickRice> I see.....well now that I know the issue I know exactly how to fix it.  thanks
[22:43] <tinkster> Slightly confused by "precise's" default behaviours ... 3 days ago I applied an "aptitude update && aptitude upgrade" to 3 servers. It patched ~ 50 packages up, but said the kernel packages were being held back. Today I was informed that there were 9 new secirity patches, but no word of kernel being held back any more.  Why is that?
[22:44] <james> o
[22:44] <Guest45333> hello
[22:44] <daftykins> tinkster: i prefer to use dist-upgrade
[22:44] <Guest50273> hello....i was here b4 with start up usb problems
[22:45] <NickRice> ok
[22:45] <NickRice> ill tell you
[22:45] <NickRice> about ur usb problems
[22:45] <NickRice> you cant just copy the files to your usb
[22:45] <NickRice> and run it
[22:45] <FloodBot1> NickRice: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:46] <NickRice> you need to turn that usb into an executable.
[22:46] <tinkster> daftykins - good for you.  I don't want to reboot the machines now, though, and would not want to take a risk with a new kernel in case of an unscheduled reboot.
[22:46] <NickRice> there are ways of doing it, it's quite simple really.  You can google it and find a million different ways.  When your USB becomes an executable, you just have to push a command at startup to run the usb and then youll have linux running from a usb
[22:47] <fishcooker> how to clean apt cache
[22:47] <fishcooker> it take a lot of space on my box
[22:47] <daftykins> sudo apt-get clean
[22:47] <tinkster> Do you know why the behaviour would differ 3 days apart?
[22:47] <zykotick9> fishcooker: "sudo apt-get clean" clears the download cache in /var
[22:47] <holstein> Guest50273: unetbootin is what i use
[22:48] <holstein> !unetbooting > Guest50273
[22:48] <Wulf> hi
[22:48] <holstein> !unetbootin > Guest50273
[22:48] <failmaster> ą┤čēą┤
[22:48] <Wulf> how can I stop ubuntu from updating my firefox version? Using "dpkg --set-selections"?
[22:49] <fishcooker> thanks zykotick9
[22:49] <zykotick9> Wulf: bad idea... firefox for instance just had a security update the other day...
[22:49] <tinkster> Wulf: apt-mark hold <package>
[22:49] <holstein> !pinning
[22:49] <holstein> Wulf: ^
[22:49] <phox> zykotick9: it also has "oops someone broke something" frequently
[22:49] <phox> :P
[22:49] <holstein> Wulf: you want to have firefox up to date
[22:50] <phox> no you want to have Chromium up to date because it doesn't break all the time ;)
[22:50] <Wulf> the new firefox 23 breaks my setup.
[22:50] <holstein> Wulf: maybe some addon.. but you really should consider that you are trading functionality for security
[22:50] <Wulf> tinkster: thanks
[22:50] <zykotick9> phox: ;)  i'd rather have firefox break, then help google spy... but your choice.
[22:51] <phox> I don't remember Chrome spying on me
[22:51] <phox> but sure, to each his paranoia...
[22:51] <holstein> !ot
[22:51] <Wulf> holstein: no, not an addon. new "Mixed Content Blocking" feature. Seriously, XHR to localhost:// is a security problem? how?
[22:52] <Wulf> err.. http://localhost/
[22:52] <tinkster> so ... what feature in precise determines whether or not a kernel patch will be installed or not?
[22:52] <tinkster> I really need to understand the why to make up my mind on a how to deal with it
[22:52] <ikonia> tinkster what ?
[22:53] <holstein> Wulf: im stating, running firefox without taking security updates can be a security risk you should be aware you are making
[22:53] <zykotick9> holstein: +1
[22:53] <Wulf> holstein: yes. But what choice do I have? I need these XHR requests to localhost
[22:53] <tinkster> ikonia : 3 days ago I ran aptitude update && aptitude upgrade on 3 servers. apt informed me that the kernel-relevant packages were being held back
[22:54] <tinkster> doing the same thing today it wants to install them
[22:54] <tinkster> why?
[22:54] <holstein> Wulf: as stated, do what you want.. you have information on how to pin.. just know the security risk.. the choice is to use the updated version
[22:54] <ikonia> tinkster: possibly dependencies not met at that time
[22:54] <zykotick9> tinkster: you need "aptititude dist-upgrade" to get new kernels
[22:54] <ikonia> tinkster: check what repo they came from
[22:54] <tinkster> i don't WANT new kernels
[22:54] <ikonia> tinkster: then change your policy
[22:54] <McDeffice> how can I choose an specific driver graphic in Ubuntu 13.04 raring ?
[22:54] <tinkster> I want to avoid a reboot at this stage
[22:54] <ikonia> tinkster: even if you get a new kernel, you don't have to reboot
[22:54] <ikonia> tinkster: it's up to you to schedule a reboot
[22:55] <tinkster> ikonia - I know
[22:55] <holstein> tinkster: you should also be aware of the security risk not taking kernel updates
[22:55] <ikonia> tinkster: then why did you just say the exact opposite
[22:55] <tinkster> I just don't want to run the risk of the new kernel shafting stuff in the event of an unscheduled reboot
[22:55] <daftykins> ^what i was confused at
[22:55] <Wulf> maybe I better leave the decision to my boss :)
[22:55] <ikonia> tinkster: then change your policy to not take kernel updates
[22:55]  * phox shakes head
[22:56] <tinkster> I'd like to understand why it behaved differently three days apart w/o us making any changes to config
[22:56] <holstein> tinkster: you might want to think about being "shafted" by an attacker taking advantage of an unpatched kernel
[22:56] <ikonia> tinkster: probably dependencies, and/or check the repo they are coming from
[22:56] <xangua> (17:54:15) ikonia: tinkster: possibly dependencies not met at that time
[22:56] <holstein> tinkster: typically, you are not jumping to new kernel versions in ubuntu.. just patches.security updates
[22:57] <holstein> tinkster: not that breakage cant happen.. but, it is well known that vulnerable kernels are.. vulnerable
[22:57] <tinkster> thanks xangua - I saw that the first time. and while it's likely true it's not overly helpful :)
[22:57] <ikonia> tinkster: how is it not helpful ?
[22:58] <ikonia> tinkster: it's just explained your probably likely cause as you did no debugging at the time/have not shared any information that can help us prove it
[22:58] <tinkster> holstein : true that. but if e.g. the CVE states that the fix is to avoid a local attach on 60008 CPUs I don't need to patch a bunch of x86_64s
[22:58] <tinkster> Thanks ikonia ... I apologise
[22:59] <Sidjon> How do all?
[22:59] <tinkster> your response would have helped had I asked when the kernel was being held back the first time around
[22:59] <Sazpaimon_> Has anyone used FreeOTFE to mount a LUKS encrypted volume on Windows? I can't seem to get it to work
[22:59] <Sidjon> How do all?
[22:59] <tinkster> Someone here told me that was default behavious for ubuntu
[22:59] <tinkster> I don't know much about ubuntu
[22:59] <ikonia> Sazpaimon_: talk to the windows guys  ##windows
[22:59] <Sidjon> How generally all do?
[23:00] <daftykins> Sidjon: stop it.
[23:00] <ikonia> Sidjon: can you stop saying that please.
[23:00] <Sidjon> whot?
[23:00] <holstein> Sidjon: please /join the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat
[23:00] <ikonia> Sidjon: "how do all" you're just repeating it/variations of it - we saw the first time
[23:00] <Sazpaimon_> ikonia, I've actually asked this question in ##windows every day for the last week. At this point I'm wondering if it's some way I set up the LUKS volume in Ubuntu that's making it not work, hence why I'm asking here
[23:01] <reazem> Hi guys! I need a bit of help. I just apt-get installed netbeans. When I boot netbeans I see the splash screen but then nothing. No errors when running from terminal. I tried to reinstall but same thing. Tried to delete .netbeans but didn't help eithier. wat do?
[23:01] <ikonia> Sazpaimon_: odd that you only show up once in my logs in the past 3 days and that's 6 minutes ago
[23:01] <Sidjon> where answer?
[23:01] <ikonia> Sidjon: what ?
[23:01] <Sazpaimon_> ikonia, some of those messages might have gone to ##windows-please-register then
[23:02] <holstein> Sidjon: what language do you speak, friend?
[23:02] <ikonia> !ru | Sidjon
[23:02] <Sazpaimon_> either way, I'm unsure if this is an issue for windows or an issue on how the LUKS volume is created
[23:05] <Sazpaimon_> I'm just unsure at this point if LUKS has changed to the point where FreeOTFE cannot decrypt it, as I've tried using the passphrase, adding a keyfile slot and using that keyfile, and even dumping the master key file and using that
[23:06] <Sazpaimon_> I'm just wondering if anyone has any experience with FreeOTFE and if they had to do anything special with creating their volume to make it work
[23:08] <frinott> reazem: http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqLogMessagesFile
[23:08] <calwig> !WOL
[23:11] <Sidjon> The great news for all of you... Canonical has announced new devices: vibrators with the pre-installed Ubuntu Touch on board. My most sincere congratulations! I rejoice with you!
[23:11] <Corey> Sidjon: not appropriate.
[23:12] <breed> Hey, anyone around who could help me out with something pretty simple
[23:12] <holstein> !ask | breed
[23:12] <breed> Sorry about that.  I'm just wondering how to run something in xterm from command line
[23:13] <zykotick9> breed: more details still required...
[23:13] <breed> I'm not sure how to explain.  There's a prefix that you can put on a command in command line that launches xterm, and then executes the command in xterm
[23:14] <zykotick9> breed: "xterm -e foo"
[23:14] <breed> I can't remember what that prefix is
[23:14] <jrib> breed: man xterm
[23:14] <zykotick9> jrib: +1
[23:14] <Sidjon> What about the super phone? I think it will be less than 11 million maximum. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
[23:14] <breed> That's it!  Thanks, zykotick9
[23:15] <jrib> !ot | Sidjon
[23:15] <Sidjon> It was necessary to use kickstarter
[23:16] <reazem> frinott, thanks!  Thats what's in there: http://pastebin.com/HZdK3WHv
[23:23] <ar15nut> anyone ever seen the error "attempting to boot from harddrive (c:)"  right after a successful install. hardware is a hp dl360 g7. doesnt even make it to grub.
[23:23] <zykotick9> ar15nut: well, if you see c:, that's a windows issue - not gnu/linux... just sayin'
[23:25] <ar15nut> yea, it had ubuntu 12.04 installed on it previously as well, never had windows
[23:27] <Smark> test
[23:28] <zykotick9> Smark: fail ;)
[23:28] <Smark> =(
[23:28] <Wulf> Smark: try again
[23:28] <Smark> test!
[23:29] <Wulf> Smark: fail ;)
[23:31] <ar15nut> zykotick9:just figured it out... seems somehow /boot got installed to my flashdrive
[23:32] <zykotick9> ar15nut: so /boot and MBR i'd guess.  glad you figured it out!
[23:33] <freze> if my server only has 512MB ram and 5 GB space should I go with 64bit or 32bit
[23:35] <damian_> venche
[23:35] <damian_> hey hey
[23:35] <MrLahey> Hey thereI am running Lubuntu 13.04 and can't seem to resolve a monitor issue. I am on a laptop with a 1280x800 display, and connected an external monitor with a 1920x1080 display. On the large external display the lxpanel bar is the width of the screen, but program windows such as Firefox etc are behaving as if they are on the laptop monitor with a 1280x800 resolution-in other words they open as smaller windows in the upper right han
[23:35] <MrLahey> d corner of the screen. I have been playing around in arandr but cannot fix it
[23:35] <alami> hello, i want to create a hotspot, to connect my samsung to internet, but i don't see my created hotspot on my samsung
[23:37] <MrLahey> sorry upper left hand corner of the screen
[23:41] <frinott> reazem: still need help?
[23:42] <Breetai> I have a samba question about file permissions.  So lets say my group is mp3 who do I want to have own the folder in linux? root? nobody? myself? also make a user mp3?
[23:45] <zykotick9> freze: with ONLY 512MB go 32bit... 64bit requires MORE ram then 32bit - to do the same thing.
[23:49] <freze> zykotick9: thanks its 512ram vs 512vswap under OpenVZ
[23:49] <freze> zykotick9: I'm also guessing the 64bit version takes up more space
[23:49] <zykotick9> freze: doesn't matter, if you have <4GB stick to 32bit
[23:49] <freze> thanks
[23:51] <derrik> im trying to edit make.conf from portage... but only cat shows its contents.. if i use vi or nano i get black screen
[23:51] <failmaster> guys, i have a problem trying to switch passphrase to keyfile authorization for root partition, while it works flawlessly for others on 13.04, however, the end-goal scheme used to work fine on 12.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18 anyone?
[23:52] <zykotick9> derrik: how is that an ubuntu issue?
[23:53] <detly> can I ask about installation in here?
[23:54] <derrik> i thought someone could know
[23:54] <Pici> detly: if its an installation of Ubuntu, sure.
[23:55] <detly> I'm trying to install Ubuntu (Server 13.04) on a Mac Mini 6,1 (2012), but the specifics of the system are tripping me up
[23:55] <detly> I've installed Ubuntu and Debian on esoteric systems before, but it's just some of the newer details that I'm unfamiliar with
[23:56] <detly> I'm not trying to dual boot or anything, it's going to be a pure Ubuntu machine
[23:56] <detly> so my first question is: every site I've read has mentioned refit or refind, but do I actually *need* either of those if I'm not dual booting?
[23:56] <qualia> gosh, how do I disable the ALT key grabbing of the system top bar
[23:56] <qualia> any idea appreciated please!
[23:57] <detly> qualia: are you talking about the HUD (heads up display) when you press ALT?
[23:57] <detly> qualia: the thing that searches application menus?
[23:58] <qualia> detly, no no i've already dealt with HUD
[23:58] <failmaster> i'm in desperate lol
[23:58] <detly> qualia: ah okay then
[23:58] <lduros> hi, I'm running ubuntu on a macbookpro and i increase the applesmc fan1_min and fan2_min to 2300 instead of the 2000 default value to lower the CPU temperature a bit. I was wondering if anyone had a similar experience and how to deal with hot macs running ubuntu
[23:58] <qualia> there's the C-M-enter hotkey for VMWare and that prevents me from opening a new terminal in a fresh Xorg install
[23:59] <qualia> that's why I need to disable the key from host os, however the gnome, gtk qt gui thing allows me to do
[23:59] <MercX> any c++ programmers here?