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smartboyhwOK, 4.11.0...02:30
smartboyhwFor the first time in history I can actually get the kubuntu-initial-upload script to work\o/02:50
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smartboyhwMembers of ~kubuntu-ppa: Sorry for the monstrous amount of recipe build failures:P03:38
shadeslayersmartboyhw: did you upload KDE 4.11 to ninjas?03:45
smartboyhwshadeslayer, still running script03:46
shadeslayersmartboyhw: do you have enough bandwidth?03:46
smartboyhwshadeslayer, ;) enough03:46
smartboyhwTaking lunch now, see ya later03:48
shadeslayerScottK: we didn't get an MRE for KTP?04:21
ScottKYou can go back and look at the tech board discussion.  I may have missed documented the results.04:21
ScottKThe only one they said no on was lightdm-kde.04:21
ScottKMaybe I forgot to ask.04:22
shadeslayerI did, and I saw the same thing, I think you forgot to ask because KTP was not in the list 04:22
shadeslayer( the list of packages you sent to the tech board _04:22
ScottKWell there we go.04:30
shadeslayer" I did not include ktp or choqok only because I wasn't comfortable with it.  Do we know what ktp point releases look like04:35
shadeslayernot sure why I did not respond to that :/04:35
shadeslayeryofel: http://paste.kde.org/pfd9f54ba/06:09
soeegood morning06:10
shadeslayermorning soee06:10
soeehi shadeslayer 06:29
shadeslayerIIRC someone else was having issues with installing kscreen as well06:29
shadeslayeroh I know, maybe apt wants to upgrade libkscreen0 to the newest version before installing libkscreen106:34
soeeshadeslayer, are you using saucy ?07:05
shadeslayerbut that is on raring07:05
soeeyes but i have one question about saucy07:06
soeedo you have the same that you can in power management set when screen should be turned off etc ? they are not respected at all07:06
soeeso after 15 minut lock screens hows up07:07
shadeslayerI suspect it's a frakensystemd issue07:08
shadeslayergtg for a bit07:10
smartboyhwUploading 4.11.0 to ninjas07:13
smartboyhwshadeslayer, Riddell yofel how to put a new status page on qa.kubuntu.org.uk?07:16
shadeslayercan do07:26
smartboyhwshadeslayer, thank you:)07:26
shadeslayersmartboyhw: should be up in 5 minutes07:29
smartboyhwshadeslayer, great07:29
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shadeslayerthe phased updates, aren't they bad for large packagesets like KDE ?08:38
yofelwell, could be. Esp. as we are not bug-free at all08:41
yofelwhere do the error reports come from actually? whoopsie?08:41
shadeslayermy major concern is actually the part where ubuntu users might install KDE and get phased updates08:41
shadeslayerbut then they'll be using XMir08:41
shadeslayerso not sure how much I care about them08:41
shadeslayeror someone using update manager on KDE08:42
shadeslayerwhich would be weird ...08:42
yofelwhat do phased updates have to do with our XMir support issue?08:42
shadeslayeryofel: just saying that people running XMir are most likely to use the update manager08:42
yofelon KDE, unlikely IMO08:43
shadeslayerand since we don't support that configuration anyway ...08:43
yofelFWIW, 4.10.97 precise runs fine in VBox for me. But I would like it if someone could do an actual openGL test on hardware08:45
yofelwe could do that from the beta ppa though if you want to copy it. (does that actually have enough space?)08:45
yofeliirc beta still has a 10G quota. I got backports bumped to 2408:46
yofel    6.9 GiB (68.96%) of 10.0 GiB08:48
yofelguess I'll have to upload l10n somewhere else08:48
yofelI'll copy it, we need testers08:50
yofelI'll be really happy when I don't have to run the precise l10n script anymore08:54
yofelonly 6 more runs left ^^08:54
* shadeslayer is trying to figure out why -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 is not called on Neon508:54
shadeslayerwell that works08:58
debfxyofel: did you manage to copy all precise packages to the beta ppa? it now says 10.7 of 10.0 GB :)09:24
yofeldebfx: quota only applies to the incoming queue it seems, not to package copies or recipe builds09:24
debfxaha, interesting :)09:25
shadeslayerwell yeah :D09:29
smartboyhwHey yofel 09:48
smartboyhwOK, all uploaded now should be..09:49
smartboyhw!ninjas | Please start to take care of the 4.11.0 saucy packages in ninjas PPA09:50
ubottuPlease start to take care of the 4.11.0 saucy packages in ninjas PPA: Ninja Time! apachelogger, debfx, JontheEchidna, Quintasan, Riddell, ScottK, yofel, smartboyhw, murthy09:50
yofelsmartboyhw: every package generated fine?10:06
* yofel kinda doubts that10:06
shadeslayersomething I always forget to check ^^10:06
shadeslayerwhee timeouts10:09
shadeslayeryofel: ^^ are timeouts common on the status script?10:09
shadeslayerit's the first time I'm seeing oen10:09
yofelseen it already, but pretty rare10:09
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yofelcold SQL cache I guess10:09
shadeslayeroh, yeah, most likely explanation10:10
smartboyhwyofel, hell, traceback on the status page:(10:10
BluesKajHi folks10:10
yofelsmartboyhw: so what did the script say at the end? anything to fix?10:11
smartboyhwyofel, no, it's a connection timeout still:(10:11
yofelI meant kubuntu-initial-upload10:11
smartboyhwyofel, oh, kppp and kdepim10:12
smartboyhwEverything uploaded:)10:12
smartboyhwyofel, my first successful run of the scriptp\o/10:12
yofelyou still needed 2 tries though it seems :/10:13
* yofel seriously needs to figure out how to properly do multiple runs10:13
smartboyhwyofel, yeah10:14
smartboyhwHmm, the i386 queue was packed...10:15
yofelthe ppa has a so high priority that you don't have to worry about the queue really10:16
smartboyhwyofel, yeah...10:17
smartboyhwyofel, in the notepad10:19
smartboyhwPrecise: yofel WIP - re-uploaded for 12.04.1 using default mesa10:19
smartboyhwYou mean 12.04.2 do you?10:19
yofelno, I uploaded as ~ubuntu12.04.110:20
yofelnot like that's supposed to match anyway10:20
smartboyhwyofel, oh10:20
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yofeldiff: precise/beta10:22
smartboyhwLP karma over 10000 now10:31
smartboyhwshadeslayer, OK I know that you guys got a lot:P10:32
shadeslayerI have a moderate amount10:32
shadeslayerRiddell has alot10:32
smartboyhwshadeslayer, yofel got a lot also10:33
yofelmostly thanks to all the package uploads really (in the past it was neon, now it's kde sc)10:33
smartboyhw4/5 of my karma came from uploads10:34
smartboyhwAnyone here consider themselves good at Calculus10:36
shadeslayerhaven't touched that for over a year and ahalf10:37
shadeslayerbut if it's something school level I might be able to have a look10:37
smartboyhwshadeslayer, I want somebody to make me understand:P10:38
shadeslayeraha, then no10:38
shadeslayerI'm very poor at explaining things10:38
shadeslayerAnyone care to test ktp raring from https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly10:39
* smartboyhw doesn't since he does not have a Raring system10:39
smartboyhwI only got Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS and (K)ubuntu 13.10 here10:39
shadeslayermy Raring VM is currently upgrading10:40
shadeslayerso I can't do much10:40
markeyhm, is anyone actually looking at pGST bug reports? 10:47
markeyfeels like they end up in /dev/null10:47
smartboyhwyofel, where did plasma-mediacenter 1.0.90 end up?10:47
markeywrong channel, sorry10:47
yofelsmartboyhw: in my brain attic, sorry -.-10:47
yofellets see10:48
smartboyhwyofel, lol10:49
yofel 11   * Add kffmpegthumbnailer as dep of plasma-mediacenter10:50
yofelsmartboyhw: ?10:50
smartboyhwyofel, it appeared in upstream build instructions10:52
smartboyhwyofel, http://sinny.in/node/2510:53
smartboyhwThat's evidence I think:P10:54
yofeland ffmpegthumbs doesn't work?10:55
yofelin any case, that should be a recommends I think10:56
smartboyhwyofel, Ok10:56
yofeldon't make packages depend on too much, recommends are installed by default, so unless it's really needed it's not a dep10:57
yofelplasma-mediacenter-dev is missing a dep on libplasmamediacenter1.1 (= ${binary:Version})10:58
yofelsame for -dbg10:59
yofelthough not really required there as pmc pulls it in10:59
yofelsmartboyhw: "Generate symbols file libplasmamediacenter1.1" is missing a 'for' I think11:06
yofelotherwise fine, please fix that and I'll upload11:07
smartboyhwyofel, OK sure11:18
* smartboyhw points yofel to https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/packaging-staging-2/+files/plasma-mediacenter_1.0.90-0ubuntu1.dsc11:28
yofelE: plasma-mediacenter source: weak-library-dev-dependency plasma-mediacenter-dev on libplasmamediacenter1.1 (>= ${binary:Version}11:54
smartboyhwyofel, uh, am I missing a )?11:54
yofelyeah, just saw that too, probably that11:54
yofelno o.O11:54
smartboyhwyofel, oy!?11:55
yofelit has to be =, not >=11:55
smartboyhwyofel, OK, sorry:P11:55
yofelI fixed the homepage link too, it's in extragear now11:56
yofel(clicked on it by chance and got a 404)11:56
smartboyhwkde-workspace has a completely weird failure11:56
smartboyhwyofel, oh11:56
smartboyhwA whole library is missing:O11:56
smartboyhwyofel, libkwinnvidiahack411:57
smartboyhwThe .so is missing11:57
yofelhm, maybe removed because completely broken11:57
yofelI remember there being talk about it11:58
* yofel checks git log11:58
smartboyhwyofel, whoa11:58
yofelyep, see a6b8844eacc7734cd623fe40ff2114009b58316511:58
shadeslayeryofel: thoughts on http://paste.kde.org/pd56cd144/12:13
shadeslayeryofel: and thoughts on why sudo apt-get install kscreen works12:13
yofelno, apt's resolver is a magic black box for me, but did you read the discussion with felix yesterday?12:14
yofelwas some 22h ago12:15
shadeslayeryeah looking12:15
shadeslayerthere doesn't seem to be a resolution to that12:17
shadeslayerand frankly I am completely perplexed by this12:17
shadeslayereverything /seems/ to be fine12:17
shadeslayerand I only tested with sudo apt-get install kscreen for the SRU and it obviously worked then12:18
yofelafiestas: hm, you never actually said whether it would be possible to namespace the plugin path with the soversion or not. Would that cause any problems? (That would mean you could have cases where libkscreen0 and libkscreen1 are both installed)12:21
shadeslayerbtw have you ever seen such an issue come up before ??12:22
shadeslayerand maybe we should file a bug in apt?12:22
yofelshadeslayer: well, kdevelop in precise backports was stuck on the same thing (kdevplatform5-libs -> kdevplatform7-libs)12:34
yofelthere I fixed it by adding a transitional package, but that's not really something we should do here12:35
yofelfelix had the right idea, question is whether it's implementable12:35
shadeslayerI see12:43
shadeslayerstill sounds like a bug in apt to me12:44
debfxyes, could well be a bug in apt. sadly the resolver debug output isn't very helpful in this case.13:00
smartboyhwBad apt:P13:02
yofelit probably is one, but I'm clueless why it happens13:04
yofelbecause I can't reproduce that in a chroot13:04
shadeslayeryofel: you can't? :P13:10
shadeslayeron the live CD maybe?13:10
shadeslayeryep, can be reproduced on the live cd13:20
yofelok, now it worked in a chroot too13:22
yofelbut needs apt-get install --install-recommends kubuntu-desktop ubuntu-standard13:22
smartboyhwyofel, heh, the double-copyright-header thing was fixed;P13:49
smartboyhwIn pmc13:50
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smartboyhwJontheEchidna, can you apply to be a mentor at season.kde.org?14:20
JontheEchidnasmartboyhw: ok14:21
fosyofel: Thanks a lot for the precise upload!14:37
fosI'll start testing tomorrow (on real hardware)14:38
smartboyhwHmm, kopete got a whole code error:(14:48
smartboyhwActually, NOT14:51
smartboyhwmissing libasound2-dev :P14:53
smartboyhwHmm, sounds like 4.11.0 is much easier to deal with (except kalzium and kopete)15:20
d_edFYI, that link you posted in #kopete is private15:22
d_edit just says "No such resource" 15:23
smartboyhwFor heaven's sake, now Ubuntu Edge is $695 ONLY (and one and only) and the rate of buying is huge:O15:23
smartboyhwd_ed, my fault15:23
d_edthat's ok, you can buy me an edge to make up for it.15:23
smartboyhwd_ed, LOL15:23
shadeslayerd_ed: dude15:23
shadeslayerd_ed: backported ktp for raring15:24
shadeslayerneeds QA15:24
shadeslayersmartboyhw:   * Remove libkwinnvidiahack4 and libkwinactivenvidiahack415:25
shadeslayer    packages since it's removed in upstream15:25
shadeslayerare you *sure*15:25
smartboyhwshadeslayer, yofel confirmed it.15:25
shadeslayerjust seems a bit odd that they removed it so far in the release cycle15:26
shadeslayertsdgeos: ^^15:26
shadeslayertsdgeos: do you know anything about libkwinnvidiahack4 & libkwinactivenvidiahack4 getting removed?15:27
tsdgeosno clue15:27
smartboyhwshadeslayer, see backlog plz15:27
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1162467] package libqtcore4 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.4 failed to install/upgrade: conffile './etc/xdg/Troll... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1162467 (by myyyxa)15:29
shadeslayerkdebug 32206015:29
shadeslayerkde bug 32206015:29
ubottuKDE bug 322060 in scene-opengl "Synced swapping on double buffered nvidia GPUs cause high CPU load" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32206015:29
smartboyhwshadeslayer, http://paste.kde.org/pb7eef1f7/15:29
shadeslayeryep, was looking at the git log15:30
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* shadeslayer shrugs15:31
yofelthere was talk on kde-devel I think on how to fix it, but without any results15:31
yofeland there's no point in keeping it around if it does nothing15:31
smartboyhwshadeslayer, yofel weird https://i147081671.restricted.launchpadlibrarian.net/147081671/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-amd64.kalzium_4%3A4.11.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.10~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz?token=4a7420f17f5de8a824746f6db8a6081d15:42
smartboyhwWe already have that  build-dep15:42
yofeldon't bother posting ninja build logs, we can't open it as the token doesn't match15:43
shadeslayeryour token is showing15:43
smartboyhwshadeslayer, oh really?15:43
shadeslayer[  4%] make[4]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/libboost_python.so', needed by `lib/libcompoundviewer.so.4.11.0'.  Stop.15:43
yofelnote: boost has it's weird edges...15:43
shadeslayer!find libboost_python.so saucy15:44
ubottuPackage/file libboost_python.so does not exist in saucy15:44
yofelweird though15:44
smartboyhw!find /usr/lib/libboost_python.so saucy15:44
ubottuPackage/file /usr/lib/libboost_python.so does not exist in saucy15:44
yofelforget ubottu15:44
yofelIIRC that uses packages.ubuntu.com15:45
smartboyhwOK, this is nots:P15:45
yofelI remember that error though...15:45
smartboyhwWhat the hell15:46
yofelmultiarch + pyversion suffix15:46
* shadeslayer goes away15:46
* smartboyhw emits blood15:46
smartboyhwand goes away15:46
yofelisn't packaging fun :D15:46
Peace-mm :D no15:46
smartboyhwyes, but...15:47
yofelok, what to do..15:47
shadeslayerwe call on the ScottK to do his magic15:48
shadeslayerxnox made that change15:48
smartboyhwshadeslayer, no it's His Royal Highness Duke Scott Kitterman of Kubuntu magic15:48
yofel"excluding python"15:49
* shadeslayer rubs eyes15:49
shadeslayerthat doesn't seem right :P15:49
smartboyhwObviously, he did it wrong15:49
smartboyhwxnox, ^15:49
yofelah, it was still xnox15:50
yofelhe probably didn't completely revert it15:50
smartboyhwSo, kalzium delayed on boost multi-arch problems15:51
shadeslayerthat's acceptable IMHO15:51
shadeslayerwe can still upload it and then rebuild it when boost is fixed15:51
yofelyou could temporarily remove the build-dep on it15:51
yofelIIRC it's optional15:51
shadeslayerah ^^15:51
yofelthen file a bug to make sure it's not forgotten15:51
smartboyhwshadeslayer, yofel I agree15:51
shadeslayerjust don't forget to add it back :PO15:52
shadeslayermake a trello card just in case15:52
smartboyhwshadeslayer, I will:)15:53
* yofel wonders why that boost build-dep is unversioned15:54
yofelI thought we always used versioned ones15:55
smartboyhwDo we?15:55
yofelwe did in the past, it seems like some of that was lost in the debian merge15:55
yofelScottK: did we have a rationale for that? ^15:55
yofelI just remembered what the real issue is16:00
yofelnot boost16:00
yofelit's avogadro16:00
yofel(it's *always* avogadro -.-)16:00
smartboyhwyofel, why?16:00
yofelhas hardcoded lib paths to every lib it's linked against16:00
yofelSET("avogadro_LIB_DEPENDS" "general;openbabel;general;/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtOpenGL.so;general;/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtGui.so;general;/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtNetwo    rk.so;general;/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so;general;/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGLU.so;general;/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so;general;/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so;gen    eral;/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXext.so;general;/usr/lib/x86_64-16:00
yofelsee end16:00
smartboyhwOh no16:01
smartboyhwStupid avogadro:P16:01
smartboyhwHOWTO fix?16:01
yofelrebuild avogadro usually16:01
yofellet's see what I can do16:01
* smartboyhw leaves kalzium and avogadro to master yofel 16:01
yofelyou start keeping such things in memory after fixing it half a dozen times16:02
smartboyhwyofel, LOL16:02
yofel-- Boost Python NOT found - Python support disabled.16:04
yofelhardly surprising16:04
smartboyhwyofel, meh16:04
xnoxshadeslayer: i will look. i thought python was left untouched, i could have gone wronng.16:05
smartboyhwxnox, maybe we have gone wrong:P16:05
smartboyhwLook above:)16:06
shadeslayerI remember the avogadro issue16:22
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MichaelPWednesday, August 7, 2013: KDE SC 4.11 Final Tag...    August 14, 2013: KDE SC 4.11 Release ..... When does kubuntu get other then beta 2 ?23:04
ScottKyofel: I don't think there's a reason not to have the versioned boost dep, but I've been mostly avoiding boost stuff in favor of xnox doing it.  BTW, the py27/py33 stuff is from Debian.  Neither xnox nor I did that.23:33
xnoxyofel: which package fails?23:34
xnoxScottK: i did multiarchification of boost in experimental & synced into saucy. It should all just work, and python was meant to be excluded from multiarchifications.... but there might be bugs.23:34
ScottKxnox: While you're fixing boost, please make it use dh_python2/3 to generate proper depends and have proper ABI tags on the so files (not the silly py27/py33 stuff)23:37
xnoxScottK: which dh_python2? i'd want to use dh-python's dh-python2, but that's not merged into ubuntu.23:37
xnoxScottK: cause i'd get those "for free" with that.23:38
ScottKYou should have dh-python in about a week.23:38
ScottKSo make it work in experimental and then you'll be able to sync it shortly.23:38
ScottKI've done everything to make it so we can sync python3-defaults/dh-python in bzr, waiting for the current one to migrate to testing.23:39
xnoxScottK: boost-python.so are not python extension modules, and instead link into your c++ prog to create a python extension module.23:42
xnoxScottK: so i'm not sure about the renamings.23:42

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