[00:00] it's not just yet [00:01] I think someone was working on a version of it at one point [00:01] AdrianTobon: you may want to try waiting more than 2 minutes before continuing to ask the same question over again [00:02] yup, sorry cjohnston [00:28] other question, if I install the actual version of ubuntu touch, I will be able to use Android and ubuntu touch? [01:04] AdrianTobon, nope. just ubuntu touch [01:08] ogra_: hmm, no, I must be wrong since it's showing download failures in the cdimage log. Still, you seem to have got something built since you asked me === Aww is now known as AWW === AWW is now known as Aww === _salem is now known as salem_ === jono is now known as Guest576 === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo [03:10] rsalveti_: fyi, verified the problem. I have a fix and am uploading it shortly [03:11] jdstrand: awesome, thanks === salem_ is now known as _salem [03:12] hi [03:17] ogra_ what's the compression on the ubuntu-ramdisk? [03:22] rsalveti_: telepathy-mission-control-5_5.14.1-1ubuntu2 uploaded [03:22] jdstrand: great, thanks! [03:23] np [03:23] :) [03:24] rsalveti_ is the ubuntu ramdisk file gzip compression? [03:24] Hashcode: yes [03:24] ah k hrm [03:25] time to bust our serial and see why this isn't booting on saucy [03:25] out [03:25] when will the ubuntu phone come out? [03:37] rsalveti__ is there a gerrit yet? [03:38] I have a small patch to build for the android HAL. [04:05] Hello? [04:07] ... [04:32] mhall119: you mean saucy archives + SDK default install? the former would be desktop team's turf to polish the packaging, and the latter indeed SDK team. [04:34] mhall119: and what about daily release system or individual uploads? [04:35] added a short note on our (desktop team's) todo list as a first measure [05:03] when will the ubuntu phone come out? [06:09] I cannot install ubuntu-sdk | http://askubuntu.com/q/330025 [06:49] cjwatson, 07.2 was the one without the links ... i copied the file instead of linking it to work around it [06:49] (thats why .3 worked then) [06:55] dmj_nova: thanks [06:57] yeah, it's good to get attention for the project [07:02] good morning [07:08] good morning dholbach [07:08] hi dkessel [08:19] Hi, is anyone having a Manta / Nexus 10, and can send me the output of alsa-info ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/AlsaInfo )? [08:21] diwic, i think Saviq is the only european who has one [08:22] ogra_, okay - it's not a hurry. I've got N4 and N7 here, and Arun showed me UCM files for the GN which I just pushed to the pulseaudio image ppa, so that leaves the N10 [08:22] diwic, coming right up [08:22] assuming I can power it up... [08:22] ogra_, I do get the feeling that N10 is the one we tend to care the least about [08:23] Saviq, thank you [08:23] well, i wonder when we will realize that it is the only device we can test the sidestage on :P [08:23] ogra_, btw, tsdgeos and mzanetti have n10s, too [08:24] ah, cool, thanks [08:24] i do, the image is quite old otoh [08:25] diwic: want my info too or Saviq's enough? [08:25] tsdgeos, one is enough, thanks [08:31] diwic, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=4e2737c4e9bec1f8cc3d705679ad3116687c8c1b [08:31] diwic, lspci didn't work, though [08:31] diwic, and /proc/asound/modules doesn't exist [08:33] Saviq, all right, thank you. It's the card name and mixer settings I was mostly interested in, and that is present. [08:33] diwic, cheers [08:33] Saviq, does the N10 have a SPDIF output? [08:34] diwic, it does have HDMI [08:34] diwic, I doubt SPDIF is there [08:34] diwic, would have to be part of the minijack [08:35] Saviq, right. I guess HDMI audio is not our first priority at this point, but it would be good to fix at some point [08:35] Saviq, heh ... no PCI busses on arm SoCs :) [08:35] ogra_, I'm a UI person, ya know! ;) [08:36] ogra_, but it does kinda make sense (especially the "PC" at the beginning of "PCI") ;) [08:36] :) [08:38] hmm, the termianl app should really take arguments so it can act as x-terminal-emulator for console apps [08:39] lshw works btw ... but doesnt know abouot all devices [08:50] Good morning all, happy Happiness Happens Day! :-D [08:57] mehow: Do we have the design meeting today as usual? === G-Morrison is now known as degville [09:39] hmmm [09:40] any idea why i get [09:40] Cannot find /data mountpoint [09:40] when phablet-flashing a Nexus10? [09:40] Saviq: ogra_: ↑↑ [09:41] tsdgeos, tried -b yet? [09:41] are you on the latest phablet-tools ? [09:41] no, but isn't -b for "the first time"? [09:41] and how old is that install ? might be the recovery image is outdated [09:41] i mean i already have ubuntu there [09:41] tsdgeos, if you haven't flashed flipped on it yet, you need -b probably [09:41] (-b updates recovery) [09:41] ah [09:41] so yeah it's not flippled [09:42] let me try -b [09:42] more downloading :D [09:48] oSoMoN: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/3400/ :) [09:48] gallery-app bounced back slightly [09:48] lovely, filters ! [09:49] oSoMoN: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/3401/ camera-app is still flaki with the one test [09:49] http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/touch/ is so much better to monitor [09:49] wonder if rsalveti_ and sergiusens managed to figure something [09:49] ogra_: yeah. now i would like to see for each line here: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/3401/ and entry "Last succeeded: never,date, etc." [09:49] with Last succeeded meaning "NEW TEST" [09:49] yeah [09:49] never [09:49] i meant :) [09:49] lol [09:50] ogra_: did you lurk info about the camera crash issue? [09:51] asac: bug #1204260 hasn’t been fixed, so the failure in camera-app is to be expected [09:51] bug 1204260 in touch-preview-images "[camera-app][mako] switching cameras crashes mm-qcamera-daemon" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1204260 [09:51] asac: and note that the failing test in gallery app has been fixed and released, so the next run should be all green (except for camera-app on mako) [09:52] asac, nope [09:52] but apparently oSoMoN did :) [09:52] oSoMoN: nice... so todays image will be back :) [09:53] ogra_: well, he has no news about latest findings by rsalveti_ and sergiusens :) [09:53] well, i dont either ... i was to busy with the images last night [10:03] ogra_: what's the file that has the build number in a ubuntu touch system? [10:03] /var/log/installer/media-info [10:03] tx [10:03] (like in every other ubuntu install :) ) [10:04] yeah well [10:04] but that says Kubuntu 11.10 "Oneiric Ocelot" [10:04] for me [10:04] not really "accurate" of what i have :D [10:05] erm, on your image it says kubuntu ? [10:05] no, i mean on my pc [10:05] on the image it's ok because i just installed it [10:05] ah [10:05] well, your PC was obviously installed from an 11.10 kubuntu media then :0 [10:06] :) [10:06] sure [10:06] but that wouldn't be much useful if i was to report a bug saying "this is my system" [10:06] because it ain't that anymore [10:06] hi I'm having a problem compiling, I'm trying to port cm10.1 to my padfone 2(A68) and i get this error http://pastebin.com/LNmKyFF1 [10:08] the port is so a can run ubuntu-touch on my phone/tablet please help [10:09] \o/ my phone still has about 75% battery after being "on" for about 16 hours, according to the indicator [10:11] diwic, bug 1210083 for you [10:11] bug 1210083 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "volume control does not work on Galaxy S2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1210083 [10:12] tsdgeos, lsb_release -a [10:12] tsdgeos, and there is /etc/os-release now (since silly systemd requires that) [10:13] bzoltan, Kaleo I think I hit an sdk bug, but I'm not sure how/where to report bugs like that these days. little help? [10:14] Morning all [10:15] hey ogra_ what happened with the images in the end I noticed the daily builds will be delayed message [10:15] images build on schedule [10:15] the daily-builds message was referring to package builds [10:17] ogra_: oh okay threw me when I saw it on the phone mailing list :) [10:19] davmor2, thats didrocks' french conspiracy, trying to steal the daily builds term from the cdimage team ;) [10:20] popey you might know ... popey if there is a bug in the ubuntu components, what package do I log that bug against? [10:20] ogra_: \o/ [10:20] :) [10:21] ogra_: you will see soon rebuilds of sdk and other components [10:21] is there a stable version of ubuntu touch for the galaxy s3? [10:21] ogra_: this is for the hybris stuff, shouldn't impact you/no need to rebuild the image [10:21] MrLobster, there is a device page ... [10:21] !devices | MrLobster [10:21] MrLobster: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [10:21] ogra_: time to setup madame guillotine, pretty sure that's how French conspiratists were dealt with in the past [10:21] see if it is there [10:21] ah thanks [10:22] didrocks, yeah, i'm not worried ... the hybris bug was breaking non touch bits only anyway [10:22] * diwic goes for lunch, bbl [10:22] ogra_: right, just don't be surprise and think you need to do another image build once you see them in -changes :) [10:22] nah, no worries [10:22] * didrocks waits for his fixed qtbase to be built [10:22] though i might do a few manual builds anyway today [10:22] unrealted to that [10:23] ogra_, didrocks: it can just land in tomorrows daily image right :) [10:23] which reminds me ... [10:23] cjwatson, so ... even though i worked around the link issue by copying the file, i think it would still be intresting to know why the links dont appear ... sadly there is nothing in the logs [10:24] so does "Cellular Radio" mean phone calls? [10:24] yes and SMS [10:24] ah :( [10:24] (and 3G if it isnt listed separately) [10:24] hi I'm having a problem compiling, I'm trying to port cm10.1 to my padfone 2(A68) and i get this error http://pastebin.com/LNmKyFF1 [10:24] guess i'll be waiting a bit then [10:25] spanner3003, probably better to ask in a CM channel ... we are mostly just consumers of CM [10:25] (though it looks like you want to disable omx) [10:26] ok but i'm porting port hopefully run ubuntu-touch [10:27] right, but we dont port *to* CM, we usually port *from* a working CM port so you might be more lucky in a CM channel, forum or mailing list [10:28] ok thank you [10:28] ogra_: Yeah, not sure what's going on there, although it should have been ln -sf not ln -s; dunno if that was the problem [10:29] well, there shouldnt be existing destination files ... waht else does -f do ? [10:29] (seems unlikely) [10:29] yeah [10:29] yeah, it's probably not that [10:29] shrug :) [10:29] its not important for me, the current hack will do until cdimage knows the new filenames (and i have fixed them to not have weird extensions) [10:30] but still a curious thing [10:30] especially in the light that the versioned files are links, arent they ? === gusch is now known as gusch|lunch === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [11:10] sergiusens: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins [11:20] cjwatson, aha ... i think it is line 148 in BuildLiveCD === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:29] ogra_: I don't see why it would be. -f returns true for non-dangling symlinks [11:29] Well, non-dangling symlinks to regular files, anyway [11:29] oh, i thought it only does files not links [11:29] nope [11:29] ogra_: however, try four lines below that [11:29] ogra_: I bet it's only moving the symlink, not the target [11:30] ogra_: This is probably why we generally use ln, not ln -s [11:30] yeah [11:30] Since then you can move it around independently [11:30] right, well, myth solved :) === gusch|lunch is now known as gusch === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:09] Hi, I've just installed the ubuntu sdk and did the currency converter example. But while running it on phone the keyboard does not pop up. [12:09] What do I need to do to get it working? [12:14] nik90: ping [12:16] Chocanto: pong [12:16] nik90: Just saw your post on g+ [12:17] Chocanto: was it you who replied to it? [12:17] nik90: Yes, that's me [12:17] Chocanto: so I understand that the document viewer also need to read/open files [12:18] Chocanto: Which is the basic functionality that I need as well for the clock app [12:18] nik90: But you can already read a file without a plugin :) [12:18] Chocanto: What do you mean? How? [12:20] timppa, someone had the same problem yesterday. IIRC they opened a bug report about it but it wasn't clear if the bug was in the app or in the toolkit [12:20] ok, thanks [12:20] nik90: With XMLHttpRequest [12:20] nik90: Have a look : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-docviewer-dev/ubuntu-docviewer-app/trunk/view/head:/TextView.qml [12:21] nik90: I used this trick when I started the docviewer, but now we need a plugin to replace our special launcher [12:21] timppa, i think rickspencer3 ran into the same bug yesterday [12:21] Chocanto: What do you need the special launcher? [12:22] nik90: Our launcher was used to get the arguments passed to the command line (but now the SDK give the possibility to read it) and then we used it to read file info like mimetype [12:23] Chocanto: Also when using the XMLHttpRequest, I am assuming that the file it reads does not need to have a XML format? [12:23] I just flashed yesterdays image [12:24] nik90: Yes, it don't have :) [12:24] *don't need to [12:24] nik90: But a plugin will be better [12:24] Chocanto: okay. I am not really sure if XMLHttpRequest is the proper way to go. I understand it works, but wouldn't a C++ plugin designed just to read the file and its metadata help us both? [12:25] Chocanto: The best part is that if this plugin turns out to be useful, we could even suggest merging it into the SDK.This way any app wanting to read a file can do so. [12:25] nik90: Yes, I started the plugin 2 days ago, maybe we can start with it ? [12:25] Chocanto: yeah definitely [12:26] nik90: The I/O api is excepted in the ubuntu SDK, but there didn't start to work on it [12:27] Chocanto: true === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:34] w-flo, is there a bug report for that "no osk" issue? (presuming that is what you are referring to) [12:35] rickspencer3, i thought you filed one last night [12:35] ogra_, I did not [12:35] ah, someone should :) [12:35] i am trying to update my galaxy nexus to the latest ubuntu phone release via the update gui on the phone. After rebooting i always get stuck in the cmw recovery as it complains that it can find /cache/recovery/ubuntu_command [12:35] because I don't what package to file it on, or how/if to you use ubuntu-bug for it [12:35] ogra_, yeah, I keep asking how [12:35] !edge [12:35] Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch [12:35] but bzoltan and Kaleo haven't answered here [12:36] stgraber, see laudo ^^^ [12:37] rickspencer3: you want to file a bug against the sdk text component itself? [12:38] didrocks, I would think ubuntu components [12:38] its a fresh install. Everything worked fines unless i try to update [12:38] laudo: hey there, I'm assuming you have adb access to the phone right? can you get me "adb shell cat /proc/mounts" and "adb shell cat /etc/ubuntu-build"? [12:38] rickspencer3: ok, so: ubuntu-ui-toolkit [12:38] but, whatever [12:38] didrocks, so, package does not exist [12:38] this is the package containing all Ubuntu Qt components [12:38] ubuntu-bug doesn't work on it [12:38] hum? this is the source package name [12:38] * rickspencer3 goes to launchpad [12:38] the binary package is qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin [12:39] didrocks, that's the first one I tried [12:39] easy to remember :) [12:39] ogra_: I type it everyday to train! :) [12:39] yeah, we should add another paragraph or two to the title [12:39] rickspencer3: should be the right one, it's the binary package containing all ubuntu components [12:39] not an official package [12:39] do you have any ppa? [12:39] apt-cache policy qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin [12:39] could be [12:39] * rickspencer3 looks [12:40] fudge [12:40] ogra_: well, in fact, it miss a version, so can be longer :p [12:40] I have the sdk team ppa still [12:40] stgraber: http://pastie.org/8218454 [12:40] heh [12:40] rickspencer3: delete that with fire! :-) [12:41] laudo: I meant when the phone is booted on Ubuntu (that output looks like recovery partition) [12:41] ok, will reboot now [12:41] didrocks, or ppa-purge? ;) [12:42] --with-fire [12:42] rickspencer3: ppa-purge --with-fire ;) [12:42] ogra_: high 5! [12:42] *snap* [12:42] * didrocks quickly adds the option before rickspencer3 runs it [12:43] so... i just installed ubuntu touch on my nexus 10 [12:43] how to set up a user account? [12:45] stgraber: here the proc mount when booted http://pastie.org/8218459 [12:46] laudo: that's not an image based install, that's a flipped install, so image updates indeed won't do anything on there [12:46] ogra_: ^ [12:47] oh, wow [12:47] i wonder why he could run the updater at all then [12:47] well, the updater does most of its work in /tmp, it's just the final copy that must have failed (as /android/cache doesn't exist) [12:47] anyway, I'm surprised that we even show the UI in that case [12:48] sergiusens, well done [12:48] stgraber: ok how would i go for the image based? [12:48] laudo: can you confirm that /etc/ubuntu-build doesn't exist on your system? (just to triple check that I'm right) [12:48] yes it does not exist [12:49] stgraber, the system settings panel has no conditionnal UI display, if the service is there and working the Ui is driving it [12:49] stgraber: any documentation on flashing the image for the galaxy nexus? [12:49] didrocks, ^ jfyi, seems like it's possible to apply an update to a non system-image image [12:49] laudo: so if you want to use the system images, you need to rebootstrap your phone with phablet-flash --ubuntu-bootstrap, note that this will WIPE EVERYTHING ON YOUR PHONE. Once you do that, you also won't be able to install extra apps until we have click packages ready (as the phone will mostly be read-only). [12:50] laudo: so in short, unless you're happy with just what's provided in the default image and you don't mind loosing all your data in the initial flash, stick with flipped (and use phablet-flash to update it) until we make this the default [12:50] stgraber: thats fine. its my play phone :) [12:51] seb128: I wonder how many people are currently trying to use the system image upgrader on devices that can't be updated that way ;) [12:52] stgraber, why do we install the service if it's not working? [12:52] seb128: stgraber: I think the daemon should reply "no update available" [12:52] right [12:52] seems a barry issue [12:52] rather than having various UI having the logic [12:53] seb128: we use the same rootfs for flipped and system-image, so the daemon is there for everyone, though we indeed should make the code conditional on /etc/ubuntu-build being present. [12:53] seb128: I assume barry's code currently considers a missing /etc/ubuntu-build as version 0 which means download the latest full image and install that (so a pointless 250MB download for anyone attempting it) [12:53] * stgraber disappears for 5min, UEFI secureboot testing === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:03] is there an easy way to test sound? I know there are vids, but video decoding is definitely broken for me, now I'm trying to figure out if audio works [13:05] should system settings -> sound -> ringtone play a sound when selecting a ringtone? [13:06] yes [13:06] ok so I need to fix sound, thanks :) [13:06] yw [13:10] about the currency converter problem, after installing the package to phone it works ok [13:14] stgraber: thats fine. its my play phone :)how do you close an open app? [13:16] sergiusens, I'll mark the ports in bold which can be flashed using phablet-flash on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [13:16] sergiusens, do you know when your branch will be merged? [13:18] I'd just work on a blog post / mailing list post / etc. to let folks know about it [13:22] laudo, long press the open app (in the apps lense), then tap it when the red X appears [13:22] thanks! [13:23] I think there are plans to auto-close apps if required (like android), but not sure about that [13:35] dholbach: as soon as rsalveti gets to it (he has the most nitpicky comments :-) so I want to address them) [13:35] ok [13:35] will get to it later today, can review & test it properly without a good internet connection [13:35] dholbach: I would need to send a big heads up anyways for everyones workflow [13:35] yep [13:36] balloons: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/3421/ weather app seemed to get the same failures on both maguro and mako [13:45] asac, 08 has improved by one test on maguro and mako ... should we publish or do you want to wait for the community apps to be fixed first === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away [13:52] ogra_: get someone to retry camera app [13:52] once its green we push it [13:53] Hi, I was wondering if 3G data is working in the flipped images. Using this: https://plus.google.com/100264483712374857174/posts/3o1tjYo9Ghx I somehow got it working in my non-flipped port to i9100 but it does not seem to work in the flipped port [13:53] it should (definitely does on the nexus devices) === Namidairo is now known as Namidairo`bnc [13:54] ogra_: can you try to find someone to get this job rerun? [13:54] just the mako camera app? [13:54] plars, ^^^ ? [13:54] balloons: you improved, but not there :) [13:54] check out latest failures [13:54] dholbach: can you add something to click roadmap? What to do with ubuntu-bug or how to replace/fix it [13:54] two/three apps still failing completely/a-bit [13:54] asac, do we expect the camera app test to have improved ? [13:55] ogra_: no. but it should work after trying a few times [13:55] if not, its a regression over what we had [13:55] two/three times [13:55] and yes, its high on agenda [13:55] asac: sure, let me see === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [13:55] sergiusens: what came out of the camera app crashes? any lead? === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [13:56] sergiusens, I'll bring it up [13:56] asac: I'm working on hybris tests... I know why the camera crasshes in one scenario... opening camera's before the previous one is closed [13:57] asac: I have a thought fix for it which I will work on now and then focus on one of the big rocks we have [13:57] * sergiusens builds his synced phablet-saucy === greyback_ is now known as greyback|latelun [14:01] tedg, mardy: settings meeting? [14:01] cyphermox, ^ if you want to join [14:02] seb128, Oh, shoot. Be right there. [14:06] ogra_: seems we are there [14:06] check the build on your phone and then push the button :) [14:06] * ogra_ has meetings for the next 2h ... wont be able to do an install [14:07] kk [14:07] guess we can wait :) [14:07] i'll do one afterwards [14:07] yeah [14:07] seb128: just having some issues, I'm joinging now [14:08] cyphermox, ok === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [14:15] cjwatson: ping. Inside the manifest, "hooks" is a dictionary with "appname" as keys. Is there currently a way to tell which one is the primary appname? === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [14:16] cjwatson: I'm assuming there's no way yet, so I'll just pick whatever comes out first. [14:20] alecu: We haven't defined a notion of a primary appname [14:20] So no [14:23] cjwatson: is there a plan to do it? In the design document I'm following, the click preview shows "Open" and "Pin to launcher" buttons after installing. And afaict, those should apply to only one of the appnames. [14:25] alecu: I haven't seen it mentioned before [14:25] alecu: (though multiple apps are a future-proofing thing anyway ...) [14:26] sergiusens, just documented what you said in the mail on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/MakingPortsAvailable === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea [14:32] ogra_,asac: enjoy your new 30-minute ubuntu-touch livefs builds [14:32] cadejo -> kishi00 [14:32] cjwatson, moved to a calxeda box ? [14:33] yep [14:33] * ogra_ dances [14:33] down from 56 minutes [14:33] \o/ [14:33] output looks sane from file sizes and manifests and such, obviously haven't actually tried it on a device [14:33] dpm: calendar design meeting? [14:33] well, the dashboard will [14:34] I only ran a livefs build, not a full image build, so you'll probably just get it in tomorrow's daily [14:34] ah, k [14:35] well, i plan to do the cdimage changes for the packaged android bits ... but might not have it ready before tomorrow [14:35] I'll be away tomorrow FWIW [14:35] k [14:35] pkunal-parmar, so we discovered that we can no longer remove topics as of yesterday in the rss reader [14:36] ok [14:36] stgraber, hey, do you have a bit of free time to discuss system image stuff? [14:37] seb128: sure [14:38] stgraber, so, some of the system settings we edit with the settings app live in /etc (e.g /etc/timezone that we edit through datetimed) ... is that going to keep working on the read only images? [14:38] pkunal-parmar, carla opened a bug I can go find on it, but are you still making underlying changes that is breaking the UI? We keep finding things that stop working, making it difficult to get a working test [14:41] seb128: you'll need to add /etc/timezone (and any such file) to /etc/system-image/writable-paths so they're diverted to userdata on first boot, after that, yes, they'll work pretty much as usual [14:42] stgraber, do you have a scalability issue there? (lool suggested that you might want to avoid too many mounts) [14:42] stgraber, or is adding a dozen of files fine (rough guess estimation of the total we might need at the end) [14:43] ev: ^ btw, not sure if you considered that for whoopsie settings === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [14:43] stgraber, what source is owning the writable-paths? e.g where do I send bugs/merge requests to add files to that list? [14:43] seb128: lxc-android-config [14:44] balloons, yes [14:44] seb128: I'm not too concerned about the number of mounts, I have machines running LXC containers that in total have maybe around 5000 bind mounts and I'm not seeing any actual performance hit [14:44] stgraber, ok, great, thanks [14:44] seb128: ooh, noted [14:44] Balloons, I recently found that her test case was not working, due to time picker [14:46] seb128, hi, I have working sound on the pulseaudio image I'm working on, but the sound indicator just says "Empty!". Any idea of why? [14:46] balloons: and I am still expecting some more UI changes, UI team is going to release new version next week [14:46] so as such UI is not stable now [14:47] diwic, I think the indicator is broken, but I'l not sure ... you can try to remove it and install indicator-sound instead [14:47] rsalveti, ^ do you know if the phablet sound indicator is known to be broken/supposed to not be working with pulse? [14:47] diwic, it might be that they just use audiofinger in the current touch one, since they didn't switch for the archive indicators yet [14:47] seb128, it seems to be non-empty on another very similar installation [14:48] ok, all I know is that it's empty on my n7, but audio is broken on that device so... [14:48] diwic: even with pure pulse? [14:48] pkunal-parmar, hmm.. UI changes are ok I guess, it's just that when the changes happen the functionality of the app also breaks [14:48] asac, ogra_, pmcgowan: camera seems to have passed on mako now [14:49] rsalveti, seb128, I'm running the pulseaudio image on both N4 and N7. On the N4 it comes up as empty, but not on the N7 [14:49] rsalveti, seb128, and I've seen it non-empty on the N4 before. [14:49] balloons, functionality like ? [14:50] seb128, anyway, maybe it's simplest if I have a look at the relevant code, do you know where it is? [14:50] pkunal-parmar, like I can't delete topics. Last week I couldn't add feeds, etc. I'm just wondering if we can stay more consistent to keep things working while the changes happen [14:51] diwic, I wouldn't bother debugging that code, it's going away soon in favor of indicator-sound [14:51] balloons, Ahh you are talking about rss reader, I am from calendar [14:51] pkunal-parmar, facepalm.. I'm sorry.. [14:51] seb128, okay [14:51]