[00:00] ? [00:00] yeah, i've no idea, good luck! [00:01] hehe [00:05] http://www.ustream.tv/channel/neuros-show [00:08] neuro: I see a ceiling? [00:10] now I see an IRC [00:10] :P [00:10] YOU GIVE THAT WINDOWS THE PEACE SYMBOL [00:10] ha [00:10] ustream is fun, eh ;) [00:11] meh === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [06:31] hello all [06:53] \o === iahmad_ is now known as iahmad [08:47] good morning everyone, [08:47] hi brobostigon [08:47] morning MartijnVdS [08:47] morning morning [08:48] morning MooDoo [08:48] Good morning peeps :) [08:50] Good morning all, happy Happiness Happens Day! :-D [08:50] That's nice [08:50] JamesTait: does it, though? [08:50] MartijnVdS, it does! [08:50] lies! [08:50] You know it to be true! [08:51] not often [08:51] My happiness this morning happened when I got a fly-past from a brand new Boeing 787 Dreamliner and escort. [08:52] It was quickly followed by annoyance that I hadn't known about it in advance and got my camera ready - but for a brief moment there, happiness definitely happened! [08:53] http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/Rolls-Royce-Dreamliner-flypast/story-19629750-detail/story.html#axzz2bMkkbIqR [08:55] JamesTait: cool :) [08:57] JamesTait: One of the approaches to Schiphol passes over motorway between my home and work: http://goo.gl/maps/XVtA6 [08:58] JamesTait: (and if I take the train, I pass Schiphol on the other side, passing the approaches to 18R and 18C) [08:58] MartijnVdS, :-D [09:03] MartijnVdS, there's a video now: http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/VIDEO-British-Airways-Dreamliner-perform-fly-past/story-19625884-detail/story.html#axzz2bMkkbIqR [09:03] And I managed to snag a couple of photos as they were flying off back home. [09:07] JamesTait: cool [09:25] hi how do i get back into ubuntu after installing XP [09:25] arc__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows [09:25] ok i will have a look [09:28] looks like i will be using boot-repair then [09:40] are there any good torrent clients on ubuntu 12.04 [09:43] !piracy [09:43] piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music, and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o [09:43] arc__: but Ubuntu comes with "Transmission" by default, so you can download other Linux ISOs easily [09:43] i haven't checked but can you get utorrent [09:44] arc__: I have no idea, transmission works great though [09:44] ok cool [09:44] You can even get a web interface for it, so you can control it remotely [09:46] it ask where the helper program is for transmision [09:46] arc__: what do you mean? [09:46] just click on the .torrent file (or open a magnet link), and transmission will open [09:46] firefox open with [09:46] maybe it's not installed, in that case, install it through the software center [09:47] it i have it open [09:48] ok i have found a way [09:54] firefox has no useful default open withs right now, because firefox is dumb [09:54] in the general case, open with /usr/bin.xdg-open [09:54] /usr/bin/xdg-open [09:55] this uses the default app on the system, or the one you set === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [10:15] Morning all [10:15] bigcalm: what time did you get home in the end? [10:19] davmor2: midnight [10:19] davmor2: bit tired today [10:19] oh 10 minutes before the rest of us left the pub then :D [10:35] does anyone know how to make utorrent faster in ubuntu [10:38] don't use utorrent? [10:38] Transmission is very good [10:38] give your isp moar moneys [10:38] is there even a utorrent for linux? [10:39] yup [10:39] http://www.utorrent.com/downloads/linux === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [10:42] half the time, the sensible answer to that one is simply patience. torrents 'warm up' as they discover more peers [10:42] indeed [10:43] I've had torrents which take longers to find the metadata then it actually took them to download [10:43] -s [10:43] depends on the source, really [10:43] sure [10:43] and how popular the torrent is [10:43] i've had *cough* certain torrents warm up within about 30 seconds to full pace [10:43] and finish downloading in 15 ;) [10:44] ... not really ;) [10:45] $ du -sch . [10:45] 73G . [10:45] neuro: I'm assuming the cough is a fedora iso rather than an Ubuntu one right :D [10:45] right, right [10:45] 73G in one folder/torrent [10:45] no idea what it is [10:45] it just appeared one day [10:45] *cough*tng*cough*s1*cough* [10:46] i really should stop smoking [10:46] s'making me cough [10:46] neuro: the ubuntu and fedora cd repositories :D You a mirroring service right [10:46] yyyyyyyyyyyyes? [10:47] I use utorrent [10:47] why is utorrent so bad [10:48] who said it's bad? [10:48] SuperMatt said not to use it [10:48] it was a glib retort [10:48] i assumed it was bad [10:50] i'd suggest talking to the utorrent community, they will know more about what you need to look at, e.g. port forwarding, optimal configuration, etc [10:50] ok what is the irc channel [10:50] Why use utorrent if the default (transmission) works fine? [10:50] irc channel? [10:51] i dunno :) [10:51] I have utorrent when i was on Xp and it has been reliable [10:51] i have office 2013 on win7 and it has been reliable, doesn't mean it'll work all that well on ubuntu [10:51] you know like /join #******* [10:51] *facepalm* [10:51] i know what an irc channel is [10:51] just checking [10:51] i was using irc when you were but a twinkle in your daddy's eye [10:51] :) [10:51] literally [10:52] arc__: I had no idea there was a linux version of utorrent. My only experience with it was running it under wine [10:52] Hiiii [10:52] SuperMatt: yeah seems there's a "server", probably like transmission-daemon [10:52] SuperMatt: that is what i am doing [10:52] oh wait, you're running the windows build under wine? [10:52] right, that could be an issue. [10:53] if there is a native version, always go with that [10:53] indeedio [10:53] why ? [10:53] because the wine version has to jump through hoops, etc, to work [10:53] native just works [10:53] I don't want to do a radomly hard linux install of a program (complicated) [10:54] if you want to go 150MPH, do you buy the Ferrari California, or do you buy the fibreglass kit version to put on top of a Ford Mondeo chassis? [10:54] what ? [10:54] installing linux software ins't too difficult these days [10:54] never mind, just run native when you can, like SuperMatt says [10:55] seems a bit weird that you think installing in wine is easier than installing natively [10:55] it's because it has a setup.exe ;) [10:55] well if there's a .deb version, that's *even easier* to install [10:56] it's a .tar.gz [10:56] neuro: Let me help you there old timer, irc is what you're talking on now :P [10:56] ah, the liunx version of utorrent is headless [10:56] just use transmission then [10:56] davmor2: WHAT'S THAT, SONNY? I CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOUR NEW FANGLED TALK [10:56] I'm having to look this up on my phone cos work blocks this kind of stuff [10:56] hehe [10:56] yeah, it's headless like transmission-daemon [10:56] i could utorrent is only 30% [10:56] arc__: just because it's a tar.gz, doesn't make it difficult [10:57] yeah but ? [10:57] I'm just checking out more details [10:57] very slowly [10:57] gotta learn this shiz yo [10:57] on my phone [10:57] indeed [10:57] SuperMatt: haha [10:57] i will just transmison [10:57] :) [10:57] it's installed by default [10:58] seems utorrent for linux is actually built *for* ubuntu [10:58] with an older debian build [10:58] arc__: if you click on a torrent it will open transmission by default [10:58] don't know why my phone is going so slowly [10:58] yeah that is what i'm doing now [10:58] problem with it is that it's old [10:58] elinks time [10:58] doesn't look like they're that interested in it [10:59] whereas transmission is still constantly being developed and has a strong history on linux [10:59] ok [10:59] * mgdm listens to Transmission [11:00] NOT THAT ONE [11:00] Yay only 4hours remaining [11:01] ♫♪ Dance dance dance dance dance to the radio [11:01] i'm thinking of setting up a website to answer the questions that keep getting posed on the front page of bbc news [11:02] "Is there any evidence slimming clubs work?" No. [11:02] "How did the Netherlands become a cycling utopia?" Because it's flat. [11:02] lol [11:02] "Have pub beer gardens now become smoking gardens?" No. [11:02] sounds more like a tumblr [11:03] yeah [11:03] it does actually [11:03] neuro: there is evidence that slimming works, initially, but that's mainly due to the reduction in carbohydrates - see /r/keto 's FAQ [11:03] dwatkins: you seem to miss the intended frivolity of the answers [11:04] hehe [11:04] :) [11:04] it's the BBC news site, I don't expect proper journalism anymore, sadly. [11:04] Make your own news site [11:04] my one-line reply was probably better researched than anything they might have written about slimming. [11:04] dwatkins: it's better than the tabloids though [11:05] arc__: I already have one, it's called reddit. [11:05] hee [11:05] I'm often more interested in reading the comments, seeing as they're often both for and against a particular point of view and there's generally some good discussion on there. [11:05] dwatkins: also, lots of bad discussion [11:06] i actively try to avoid comments now [11:06] MartijnVdS: agreed [11:06] they seem to be the breeding ground for morons [11:06] but if you avoid comments, people will be wrong about something and continue to think they're right... FOREVER [11:06] it must be lunchtime, back later [11:06] Indian food time [11:06] youtube and the daily mail are especially bad [11:07] i've added *.dailymail.co.uk to adblock so that i can't even click on a daily mail link anymore [11:07] and slashdot [11:07] don't forget slashdot [11:07] i haven't read slashdot in more than a glancing manner for years unfortunately [11:07] s/un// [11:07] Whatever you do: don't read the comments [11:08] or the articles [11:08] in fact, we should all stop reading all together [11:08] it's more hassle than it's worth [11:09] no one shold habe an opinion on anything [11:09] interesting ... the irish edition of the Sun has dropped topless photos from Page 3 [11:09] one reader has complained so far [11:09] hooray! [11:10] http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2013/aug/08/sun-page-3 [11:10] but neuro how will you ever know what Diana would think without reading the dailymail [11:11] Isn't that the Express? :-) [11:11] neuro, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/kitten-block/ [11:11] davmor2: i think you're thinking of the Daily Express [11:11] [11:11] directhex: easier to just add a line to adblock rather than switch browsers ;) [11:11] i don't even want to read the text [11:11] neuro, https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/kitten-block/dicomhebenajaeajoaehlhebjjehjahd?hl=en-GB [11:11] as i said, i don't even want to read the thing [11:12] neuro, no text, it just redirects *.mailmail.co.uk to tea and kittens [11:12] adblock blocks the click as well as all images if i make it to a dm page by accident [11:12] so it's hard to unwittingly click through to the dm site [11:17] MooDoo [11:18] Hiii [11:18] hello [11:19] how are you [11:19] i've come to an epic conclusion [11:19] the next series of doctor who with peter capaldi will be bloody brilliant [11:19] not because of anything actually done in the show [11:20] i have problem apache server [11:20] but because, hopefully, there will be who/thick of it mashups in the days after [11:20] neuro : today i have configured apache + mod_jk +tomcat +mysql + cluster but i apache some server problem [11:20] um, ok? [11:24] i have taken 3 systems 2 servers app tomcat1, tomcat2 3 server mysql & apache run but i am not able to access application servers another machine [11:32] neuro : how to access application servers === msm is now known as Guest54451 [11:41] dvrr: i have no idea dude [11:43] http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/7/4594714/canonical-ubuntu-edge-crowdfunding-campaign-may-not-reach-its-goal [11:46] neuro: REALLY?! [11:47] hehe [11:47] it's still possible for some sort of hail mary publicity thing to pull in additional funding [11:47] theverge: the "daily fail" of the internet [11:47] you think? [11:47] i find them pretty even handed [11:47] neuro: never seen a good article on there [11:47] i've found loads [11:48] aren't they the same as gawker etc.? [11:49] um no? [11:49] like lifehacker and gizmodo [11:49] nothing to do with them [11:50] Oh, it looked similar to me. [11:50] I tend to read arstechnica myself [11:51] * neuro cancels his amazon xbox one preorder :P [11:51] sanity prevails again [11:51] need to do it again, apparently there's no headset in the box [11:53] crazy preorder placeholder pricing ... [11:53] neuro: "pre-order price guarantee"! === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [11:54] "Wireless Controller With Play and Charge Kit (Xbox One)" - £89.99 [11:54] "Chat Headset (Xbox One)" - £89.99 [11:54] neuro: wow.. MS really need money don't they [11:54] placeholder pricing [11:54] PLACEHOLDER PRICING [11:54] or so you hope [11:54] amazon didn't know what to charge for them, so they priced all the accessories at 90 quid [11:55] joypad is $60 in the US, headset $25 [11:55] so probably 45-50 quid for joypad here, 20 for headset === MattJ is now known as MattJ10000 [11:59] could be worse [12:00] littlewoods are charging 25% above rrp on actually known, published RRPs on next-gen HW [12:04] neuro: see the latest announcement from edge/gogo? [12:05] BLOODY HELL [12:05] wait, WHAT? [12:05] is that good or bad bloody hell? :-p [12:05] * MartijnVdS takes away neuro's "shift" and "caps lock" keys [12:05] they're going to refund EVERYONE who pledged for an edge at a higher tier?! [12:06] seems that way [12:06] so yet again they're going to lose money [12:06] all money to go to building phones, except for the hundreds of thousands we've decided to give back to people [12:07] this is a fiasco [12:08] so what, next week, another magical unicorn event occurs and they drop the phones down to $600? [12:08] gerroff moy land! [12:08] hehe [12:08] they seem to state that there's not going to be any further reductions [12:09] shyeah, right [12:09] neuro: i have two application servers two different machines running (tomcat1, tomcat2 applicatin servers clustering & section replication also complected ) another machine running apache2 server how to biend or (access) that two application servers using this apache server(using hostname) please help me [12:10] dvrr: i don't know what you want me to do [12:10] it all sounds very complicated, with very little information given, and i'm not a tomcat expert by any means [12:11] ok sorry if you know [12:16] dvrr: what is your first language? [12:51] SuperMatt: his first language is /quit [12:52] obcs [12:52] *obvs [12:53] I was gonna suggest he go to whatever channel speaks his first language [12:53] I'd much rather people have *easy* support, than try to tackle the language barriers myself [12:53] if all else fails, I will step up though [12:54] SuperMatt: I think he's been here before, but his English isn't good enough to explain his problem [12:55] :( [12:56] I remember someone a shot while ago said they couldn't get any help in -fr, but I looked in there and there was just as many people as in here === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:45] SuperMatt: he's from hyderabad in india [13:46] fun times [13:47] there's 14 people in #ubuntu-in apparently [13:47] and the topic says "talk in english" [13:47] oh dear [13:47] not fun at all [13:48] neuro: that might be because they speak about 2387423 languages in all of India? === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away [13:48] though I find it quite funny that he's managed to cluster a lot of tomboy stuff, etc, but doesn't know how to set up an apache proxy (I think that's what he was asking) [13:48] tomcat != tomboy [13:49] sorry yes [13:49] I was being a bit funny with my typing === msm is now known as Guest95293 [13:52] are there any large open source projects written in a language other than english? (for variable names etc) [13:52] i think there's one fairly famous one written in french but i can't remember which one [13:53] StarOffice had German comments [13:53] well the first OpenOffice branched from it, anyway [13:54] i think the french one is a CRM system written by/for the french government, but also open source and fairly well known [13:54] or it might be french-canadian [13:55] thursday funny - http://31.media.tumblr.com/6cea63a841b80239a07e887ff2eebb9c/tumblr_mr4y5tzmRf1qdlh1io1_r1_250.gif === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [13:56] depends on your definition of "funny", i guess :) [13:56] i lol'd [13:57] popey: did my own take on the popey cam http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Azelphur :) [13:57] that's my edimax ip camera pointing out the window, bridged into ustream with ffmpeg [13:58] you live that close to the sea Azelphur ? [13:58] yep [13:58] awesome [13:59] MooDoo: shall I turn the camera around for comparison? XD [14:00] yes, clean those windows! [14:00] those are funny looking chickens Azelphur [14:00] ali1234: haha [14:00] AlanBell: indeed :) [14:00] Azelphur: go for it [14:01] sea chickens! [14:01] oh, that reminds me, I want to create a google+ hangout of my budgies [14:01] uh, that's actually a thing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_of_the_Sea [14:01] lol [14:01] my housemates tell me they never make a sound when I leave the house, I want to test it out [14:01] Azelphur: ha ha ha ha [14:01] MooDoo: :D [14:01] as is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_of_the_VNC [14:02] I been tempted to move the cam to the other room actually, I think the view might be better. [14:03] Azelphur: any reason why you use ustream and not google+ hangouts? [14:03] SuperMatt: ustream supports rtsp so I can do this all on a server [14:03] hangouts can be pumped straight to youtube [14:03] so how do you bridge an IP cam to ustream? [14:03] Azelphur: I might admit I was playing with motion last night [14:03] ah, so no need for an x server? [14:04] ali1234: ffmpeg -r 12 -i "http://admin:1234@192.168.1.120/mjpg/video.mjpg" -f flv "${RTMP_URL}/${KEY} flashver=FME/2.5\20(compatible;\20FMSc\201.0) [14:04] * SuperMatt starts hacking [14:04] hehe [14:04] I know all your passwords now, bwa ha ha ha, etc [14:05] SuperMatt: xD [14:05] If I move it to the other window, there's a load more people [14:05] where as where it is, hardly any people [14:05] decisions :P [14:07] just stream porn to us instead [14:07] haha [14:07] https://www.dropbox.com/s/loa2an09ni3vu9k/2013-08-08%2015.07.20.jpg [14:08] ugg, I hate when you have a parcel on the way, and it's getting closer and closer to home time and it's still not here and dammit I just want to play with it [14:08] that's what it looks like out the other window atm [14:08] ooh, a beach [14:09] aren't you lucky [14:09] hehe [14:09] still, I love this central london malarky [14:09] whatcha think, move the ip cam over there? [14:09] and there's me stuck in amazingstoke [14:09] why not? [14:09] \o/ [14:10] * Azelphur moves it over [14:13] gah it's playing up and not wanting to connect to wifi now === MattJ10000 is now known as MattJ [14:28] there we go, stream is back at the new location [14:29] better view === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea [14:31] hmm, it's apparently doing 30fps now [14:31] I wonder if that means I can up the frame rate on ffmpeg without getting the crazy hyperspeed playback [14:32] nah bit naf === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [15:10] there we go, managed to fix the aspect ratio now too, much better image http://www.ustream.tv/channel/Azelphur :D [15:12] gah, looks like I've re-encarnated whatever caused the frame rate to be messed up, though. [15:12] /o\ [15:17] stop torrenting :P [15:17] MartijnVdS: haha, the problem is that ffmpeg is stupid [15:18] true [15:18] it basically says mjpgs are all 25 fps [15:18] and totally ignores the command line arguments [15:18] Azelphur: you need to put the framerate before the -i [15:18] so I have to tweak the output frame rate to get it just above realtime, and let it catch up [15:18] yea, I do [15:18] hmm, I wonder what the candidate GPUs are for the Ubuntu Edge [15:20] none that are available on the market today [15:20] ali1234: why do you say that? [15:21] because it won't be released until next year [15:21] I wonder if mark shuttleworth is gonna step in to bulk up the shortfall [15:21] that doesn't mean it won't use anything currently on the market [15:21] if they use a GPU on the market today it will be a year out of date by next year [15:21] nope, unless indiegogo let them drop the funding total [15:21] ali1234: define 'on the market'? [15:22] on the market = OEMs can buy it [15:22] or ODMs [15:22] nah, there is stuff available to licence now which isn't in any phone products [15:23] yeah, that stuff will be in phones released in Q4 [15:24] I say we get it to £20M and buy Brompton Road [15:24] much cooler [15:24] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/uknews/10226777/Brompton-station-on-sale-for-20-million..html [15:25] ali1234: hmm, not convinced [15:25] the choice is basically powervr, nvidia, or mali [15:26] ali1234: The products that are going to be used in the next year or so have already been announced by those companies [15:26] the edge itself has been announced too [15:27] it doesn't mean it exists [15:27] ali1234: doesn't change the fact that I was wondering what canonical are considering for the GPU for the edge [15:28] (16:25:56) ali1234: the choice is basically powervr, nvidia, or mali [15:28] yes, it doesn't mean that they are considering all of those though [15:29] nobody who knows will tell you because of NDAs [15:29] given the poor reputation of powervr i would say that one is the least likely [15:30] 'poor reputation'? [15:30]