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Kilosmorning all05:50
KilosMaaz, seen magespawn05:51
MaazKilos: magespawn was last seen 13 hours, 57 minutes and 15 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-08-07 17:54:00 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2013-08-08 04:01:15 SAST05:51
Squirmmorning06:09
Kiloshi Squirm 06:09
Kiloshi mazal 06:26
magespawngood morning all07:08
Kiloslo magespawn you came back07:14
Kiloswhat crashed07:14
magespawninternet07:18
Kilosai!07:18
magespawnone of those things07:19
magespawncan you remember the site where i downloaded those 3g things that you could not get?07:19
magespawni cannot remember the file names07:20
magespawnand i have a few files in my downloads folder07:21
inetprogood mornings07:29
ThatGraemeGuymorning all07:30
magespawnhi inetpro ThatGraemeGuy07:37
ThatGraemeGuywhoa! slow it down a little, things are moving way too fast this morning :D08:05
magespawnhey it's friday08:11
ThatGraemeGuyeven more reason to not be working too hard ;-)08:28
magespawnindeed08:31
magespawnjust put together a pc, and the power supply is faulty out of the box08:33
magespawnthat stuff is only supposed to happen on a monday08:35
psyatwhello magespawn08:44
psyatwhi ThatGraemeGuy08:44
psyatwhahaha08:44
magespawnhi psyatw08:46
magespawnlook like Kilos is calling in sick today08:56
Kilossigh09:02
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 09:02
ThatGraemeGuy'ello09:02
Kilosmagespawn, you busy?09:04
magespawnhey Kilos09:08
magespawnsort of? what  is the problem?09:09
Kilosstruggling with modem. pc cant even see my old one anymore 09:09
Kilosdunno if a modem can corrupt the os09:10
magespawnno it shouldn't09:11
magespawnhow are you online now?09:11
Kilosit started that showing connected but wasnt again. im using sakis09:11
magespawnthat sounds more like a faulty modem than anything, have you tried them on your win machine09:13
magespawn?09:13
Kilosya it works there09:13
Kiloswhen you get a break dropbox that stuff for me please09:13
magespawncan you remember the site? i cannot remember the file names09:14
Kilosoh my lemme look09:14
magespawni have the files, but there is a lot in my downloads folder at the moment, do not wwant to give you the wrong files09:15
Kilosai! ive reinstalled so that link is gone. lemme try find it again09:16
Kilosjust remember it was an ugly dark site09:16
magespawnno worries i have found it i think09:16
Kiloslol09:17
Kilos3 of them?09:17
psyatwhi Kilos09:17
Kiloshi psyatw 09:17
Kilosor 2? i forget09:17
Kilosone must be a flash file09:17
Kilosfinding stuff gets really heavy at times09:19
Kilosthats why i end up with an overloaded desktop always09:20
magespawnyup i have them will upload in a sec09:21
Kilosty09:22
Kilossorry to bug you09:22
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: is it a usb modem?09:25
Kilosyeah09:25
Kilosgoes for days then crashes everything09:25
ThatGraemeGuy'lsusb' in a terminal09:25
ThatGraemeGuydoes it show there?09:26
Kilosyip09:26
ThatGraemeGuyprobably just a software hiccup then09:26
Kilosyeah i think its corrupt inside09:27
Kilosneed to flash the vmc stuff off methinks09:27
magespawnKilos: busy uloading the files now, will post the link when done09:37
Kiloshi Vince-0 09:38
Kilosty magespawn 09:38
magespawnall of these only work through win though09:38
Kilosthe codes are there too hey?09:38
Kilosthats fine ty09:38
magespawnwhat codes are that?09:41
Kilosunlocking and unbranding09:41
magespawnyup the software does that09:42
Vince-0haia09:42
Kilosaha09:43
magespawnhey Vince-009:44
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Kiloshi Trixar_za 09:49
Trixar_zaHey Kilos, how are you?09:49
Kilosgood ty and you Trixar_za 09:50
Kilos?09:50
Trixar_zaJust enjoying some free music by Josh Woodward and thinking about how to get the benefits of case sensitivity while retaining case insensitivity within certain functions. I figure you can just lower the value being checked and value you're checking it against. It should be a simple if statement and at most 3 lines of code.09:53
Kilossjoe09:53
Kilosi thought case sensitivity was good09:54
Trixar_zaIt is, but the programmer of the game went a bit to far an made it universal for all text related functions09:57
Kiloslol09:57
Trixar_zalike in game commands that the players and the GMs use09:57
Trixar_zaSo they had a big argument about it yesterday without coming up with a solution instead09:58
Kilosai!09:58
Trixar_zaI think the problem comes from them not designating roles properly. They also don't have somebody that takes on the role of the creative director. So the 'heads' of each department in game creation butt heads constantly when one oversteps their boundary.10:03
Kiloseish10:03
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Vince-0surp durp10:29
Vince-0looks like RMS is coming to SA10:29
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Trixar_zaRMS is coming to SA?10:36
Trixar_zaWhen and where?10:36
Trixar_zaWould be nice to argue with him in person... er... I mean chat to him in person10:36
Kiloshehe10:37
Kiloswbb going to try fix modem10:37
magespawnTrixar_za: what game?10:56
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Kilosok now well see how long we stay connected11:40
charlhi Kilos 11:47
charlconnection problems ?11:47
charlMaaz: coffee on11:47
* Maaz puts the kettle on11:47
Kilosmodem probs charl 11:47
charlah i see maaz has been fixed11:47
Kilosor the software that uses it11:47
charlthat sucks Kilos 11:47
Kilosyeah maaz is going again11:47
MaazCoffee's ready for charl!11:51
charlMaaz: thanks11:51
Maazcharl: No problem11:51
charlMaaz: botsnack11:51
MaazThank you thank you, munch munch chomp chomp11:51
Trixar_zaHey Kilos, do me a favour and check if mtr --report 106.186.31.159 also gives you ??? or 100% packet loss routes12:02
Kilosok sec12:02
Trixar_zaI might have to have a word with the IT people @ 8ta/Telkom Mobile about it :P12:03
Kilos5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4003ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 261.580/261.670/261.755/0.649 ms12:03
Kilosi used maaz to ping it12:03
Trixar_zaNeed to be another 8ta user though12:04
Trixar_zaNeeds*12:04
Kilosmy side works?12:04
Kiloswhat are you doing wrong12:04
Trixar_zaNo clue, but I have dead routes and sometimes it causes about a 30 minute interrupt of service to the Tokyo data center12:06
Kilosmaybe they are having tsuname probs12:07
Trixar_zaNah, it's not their end. I asked. It has something to do with 8ta from mine.12:08
Kilostry using maaz to ping it12:08
Kilosor dont that use your 8ta12:09
Trixar_zaNope, that uses maaz's connection12:11
Kilos<QA> Kilos: 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 3999ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 866.776/912.171/955.759/32.160 ms12:12
KilosQA is the bot on my channel12:12
Kilos##kilos12:12
Kilosmust be only 8ta there by you12:13
Vince-0its like nobody knows about this12:14
Kilosoh Trixar_za you can mail them and they even come out and check12:14
Vince-0Trixar_za, http://igg.me/at/rms-za/x/233066212:15
Trixar_zaThat's pretty nice12:15
Vince-0ya if it was organised a bit better12:15
Vince-0trying to make a Durban event but I don't think it's going to work12:16
Trixar_zaI'd go to the Cape Town event if it was held here12:18
Trixar_zaI have a pretty nice question for him too12:19
Trixar_za:P12:19
zerefhmmm12:19
Kilosyo zeref 12:20
Trixar_za"If no GNU tools are included (via the use of replacement tools like BusyBox) with a Linux distribution, should it still be called GNU/Linux and why?"12:20
zerefhi Kilos 12:22
Vince-0Trixar_za, ha!12:22
Vince-0the answer is no12:22
Vince-0computer says noo12:22
Trixar_zaI would just be interested to hear his opinion because in the past he was against BusyBox because he claimed it copied the behaviour of the GNU CoreUtils (which themselves copied the tools within Commercial Unixes)12:26
Trixar_zaAlso what ever happened to GNU's own kernel12:28
Trixar_zalol, Good luck getting Linus AND Richard in the same place12:29
Trixar_zariaan3 said 3 days ago12:29
Trixar_zaI will double my donation if you bring Linus with (AWESOME)!12:29
Trixar_za^--- lol12:29
Vince-0ya, GNU hurd is a bit slow - BSD kernel is in Debian12:35
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magespawnTrix[a]r_za: mtr is a usuful tool, thanks for that13:30
magespawnKilos: did youget those files?13:34
Kilosyeah ty magespawn installed and upgraded etc and modem been connected now for13:35
Kilos1.5 hours13:35
Kilosserious discussions going on in the lists13:36
Kiloswhy dont you tell them its all about choice13:37
magespawnwhat is the discussion about?13:37
Kilosone is forcing peeps back to sucks and other about distro choice because canonical aint here13:38
Kiloshehe13:38
Kilospeeps are funny13:38
Kilosim not using ubuntu because mark is south african13:39
magespawnKilos: exactly, and that forcing back to win is just for certain websites, and honestly it is not that hard to be inclusive when you do a website13:41
Kilosyeah also some things dont work in linux but so what13:42
Kiloshi Xethron 13:46
Kilosone can dual boot to win for those things or run 2 pcs like i do13:46
XethronOr Virtual Machine :D14:03
XethronVirtual machine is prob the easiest14:03
Kilosyou need a fast pc for that14:10
Kilosand lotsa ram methinks14:10
Kilosoh my , i go to all the prob of installing dropbox then find i already have one14:35
Kilosemaill addy well chosen methinks14:36
Kilosyo inetpro 14:36
superflyyeah, sorry, RMS's days are over.15:12
superflyhe now just rants and raves about stuff with no clear evidence15:12
ThatGraemeGuysuperfly!15:50
ThatGraemeGuyor not... never mind :)15:51
ThatGraemeGuykbye all.... happy long weekend!15:51
magespawnlater all home time for me too15:53
Kiloslater magespawn 15:54
Kilosaw sorry ThatGraemeGuy  missed you trying to make remastersys work16:41
Squirmhi17:26
Kiloshi Squirm 17:39
Kiloshow is superfly ? still meh or at least meh+ tonight17:39
Kiloshi not_found 18:59
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:00
not_founduncle Kilos , alo and bye19:00
Kiloshehe tomorrow19:00
magespawnhttp://www.tecmint.com/60-commands-of-linux-a-guide-from-newbies-to-system-administrator/ via The Linux Foundation on Facebook20:53

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