[00:24] <Bosi> Hello everyone, I'm trying to adjust the clock of my Xubuntu 13.04. I'm trying sudo date 080719232013 and it works just fine, but once in a while it goes back to my old time... is there another way to adjust the clock?
[00:45] <ArthurZey> I got booted a few times. If anybody responded since I mentioned having no trouble installing Ubuntu, I'd appreciate a re-post. Thanks!
[01:37] <D7x> which package replaces the lubuntu startup splash screen with the xubuntu one?
[03:32] <DoverMo> kgb, how do you make rinux 10 times faster?
[03:33] <kgb> DoverMo: how many times faster? :))
[03:34] <DoverMo> kgb, 40
[03:34] <kgb> DoverMo: come to #xubuntu-offtopic, pls
[04:06] <kenneth__> hi all! ubuntu 13.04 is awesome!
[06:24] <HelmetDoe> Hey is anyone awake? I need a bit of help
[06:25] <HelmetDoe> I just installed xbuntu 12.04 for my bitcoin miner system and I get at this like loading screen and its just a top bar in the corrner,
[06:28] <HelmetDoe> Hey, Elfy, I have a problem could you be able to help?
[06:28] <HelmetDoe> or anyone?
[06:33] <Unit193> HelmetDoe: You have a screenshot or more description?
[06:37] <HelmetDoe> Well When I started the first boot I get stuck at a gray screen with a loading bar in the top left corrner,
[06:38] <HelmetDoe> Now i just rebooted while pressing the left arror and alt and I found out im in my desktop and the screen is a bit messed up, about 1\8th of the left side is on the right, I'll grab a pic of it how
[06:41] <HelmetDoe> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uiskhxje5hxwo4f/20130808_023857.jpg
[06:41] <HelmetDoe> I got to the desktop but its kind of broke as you can see
[06:44] <HelmetDoe> ...I can't beleve how well i broke this lol
[06:48] <HelmetDoe> give me a minuit im going to install the amd drivers though comand line
[06:57] <HelmetDoe> alright i think i got this under controll, Im in the prosess of complining this I guess.
[07:52] <Sysi> is there any way besides compiling to get current saucy kernel on precise?
[07:53] <baizon> Sysi: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[07:57] <Sysi> I could give that a run with my ati hd 4870 since fglrx isn't good enough
[07:57] <pmjdebru1jn> ah, the fun of using blob drivers :)
[07:58] <Sysi> (I actually installed windows after games didn't run)
[08:48] <eph3meral> Sysi: or you could just buy an nvidia card and call it a day :P
[09:53] <theghost> Hi, how can i make gnome-keyring to automatically unlock using lightdm and autologin (keyring password is blank / gnome compatibility mode activated) in Xubuntu 13.04 + 13.10 ?
[10:34] <xubuntu530> hello
[13:22] <jonzen> tried everything i can find on forums to disable screen blanking every 10 min   can ne1 tell me how to turn this off
[13:25] <jonzen> just install 12.10 on new laptop   disabled power manager  disabled screensaver uninstalled xscreensaver   still every 10 min screen blanks  any help
[13:26] <jonzen> looked thru bios tomake sure it wasnt the prob
[13:26] <pmjdebru1jn> what did you set in xfce preferences?
[13:27] <xubuntu903> I have a question. Why does xubuntu run beautifully on my 2006 vintage macbook, but almost not at all on my 8 core amd desktop?
[13:27] <bgardner> xubuntu903: What does 'almost not at all' mean, specifically?
[13:28] <lderan> xubuntu903: is something using up all the system resources? have you installed any graphics card drivers?
[13:28] <jonzen> xfce preferences?
[13:28] <pmjdebru1jn> jonzen: yes
[13:28] <xubuntu903> it takes forever to install and then works only hesitantly
[13:28] <pmjdebru1jn> did you check  your dmesg?
[13:28] <pmjdebru1jn> maybe an issue with your disk?
[13:29] <pmjdebru1jn> it's not the first time i've heard "something is dead slow" and it turns out to be a dying disk
[13:29] <pmjdebru1jn> smartctl can tell you
[13:30] <xubuntu903> No. I've since gone back to KDE (kubuntu) and the desktop is running fine. For some reason or other, it didn't like xubuntu, or vice versa, at all.
[13:31] <pmjdebru1jn> xubuntu903: I assume kubuntu is on a different part of your disk, so that doesn't mean anything
[13:32] <pmjdebru1jn> seriously check smartctl and dmesg
[13:32] <jonzen> by xfce preferences do you mean settings panel
[13:32] <pmjdebru1jn> jonzen: yes
[13:32] <xubuntu903> kubuntu is loaded on the same disk that I installed xubuntu on. Go figure.
[13:32] <xubuntu903> the disks are fine.
[13:32] <jonzen> i even uninstalled xscreensaver   turned off power manager in autostart
[13:32] <pmjdebru1jn> xubuntu903: it's not the same disk area of  course
[13:33] <pmjdebru1jn> in theory you could have error on the specific part of the disk
[13:33] <pmjdebru1jn> regardless
[13:33] <pmjdebru1jn> having a dmesg will be very helpful
[13:33] <xubuntu903> Both were installed on the same disk as the only OS.
[13:33] <pmjdebru1jn> xubuntu903: ah ok
[13:33] <jonzen> how to dmesg pls
[13:33] <pmjdebru1jn> as I said, dmesg is likely to be helpful regardless
[13:33] <pmjdebru1jn> jonzen: that was for xubuntu903
[13:34] <jonzen> oh  sorry
[13:34] <xubuntu903> thank you. i'll check it out if i decide to try it again.
[13:34] <pmjdebru1jn> urgh
[13:34] <pmjdebru1jn> I assumed you wanted too
[13:35] <pmjdebru1jn> without more info this conversation is rather pointless
[13:35] <pmjdebru1jn> jonzen: if you uninstalled xscreensaver i doubt it's the screensaver
[13:36] <pmjdebru1jn> btw does your screen blank (but it's still on)? or does it go off?
[13:36] <pmjdebru1jn> also keep in mind that uninstalling something does not mean a running copy is stopped, so rebooting might help (if it IS still xscreensaver)
[13:37] <jonzen> hehe  i can really be dumb sometimes  ty  lemme reboot and try  ty much
[14:36] <gfdgdfgdfgd> how the hell do i go about installing beautiful soup i tried everything and still it wont work??
[14:37] <TheSheep> !language | gfdgdfgdfgd
[14:37] <TheSheep> gfdgdfgdfgd: also, please describe what you tried and how it didn't work
[14:37] <gfdgdfgdfgd> yea sorry im just stressed out bcs of problem
[14:38] <gfdgdfgdfgd> ok so i tried installing it from terminal and from their site
[14:38] <Unit193> python-beautifulsoup for python 2.7, python3-bs4 for python3.
[14:39] <TheSheep> actually there is also python-bs4 for python 2.7
[14:39] <Unit193> Indeed.
[14:39] <gfdgdfgdfgd> i think i downloaded that python-bs4
[14:39] <gfdgdfgdfgd> 2.7
[14:39] <pmjdebru1jn> gfdgdfgdfgd: generally speaking "installing something from someone's site seldomly is a good idea:
[14:39] <TheSheep> gfdgdfgdfgd: you think?
[14:40] <TheSheep> gfdgdfgdfgd: unless you tell us exactly what you did and what error you got, we can't really help much
[14:40] <TheSheep> we are not physic
[14:41] <SpeccyMan> neither psychic nor in possession of a dictionary :P
[14:42] <Unit193> I ate mine...
[14:42] <gfdgdfgdfgd> 	beautifulsoup4-4.2.1.tar.gz this is version
[14:43] <gfdgdfgdfgd> so i extract it on desktop and then go to terminal and type : sudo python setup.py isntall, and it still wont work
[14:43] <Sysi> !info python-beautifulsoup
[14:44] <TheSheep> gfdgdfgdfgd: just install it with the software center
[14:44] <gfdgdfgdfgd> they dont have it
[14:44] <TheSheep> gfdgdfgdfgd: you do, it's in ubuntu's repositories, already packaged
[14:44] <pmjdebru1jn> gfdgdfgdfgd: as I said, avoid installing from source
[14:45] <pmjdebru1jn> sudo apt-get install python3-bs4 # doesn't work ?
[14:45] <TheSheep> gfdgdfgdfgd: ubottu just displayed the information about the package, so it's there
[14:45] <Sysi> it's also in every other supported version
[14:45] <gfdgdfgdfgd> no that doesnt work neither pmjdebru1nj
[14:45] <pmjdebru1jn> what exact error do you get?
[14:46] <pmjdebru1jn> oh wait you don't have the universe repos enabled I suppose
[14:46] <TheSheep> pmjdebru1jn: it's in main
[14:46] <pmjdebru1jn> oh
[14:46] <Sysi> you used wrong package name
[14:46] <rawrmonster> Is there a command to tell you every installed program or library that is using "backports"?
[14:46] <gfdgdfgdfgd> to enable it i go to software center?
[14:46] <pmjdebru1jn> gfdgdfgdfgd: what's the exact error you get?
[14:47] <gfdgdfgdfgd> asd@asd-A6VMX:~/Desktop$ python BS.py Traceback (most recent call last):   File "BS.py", line 1, in <module>     from BeautifulSoup import BeautifulSoup ImportError: No module named BeautifulSoup
[14:48] <pmjdebru1jn> gfdgdfgdfgd: no
[14:48] <pmjdebru1jn> gfdgdfgdfgd: we alraedy told you multiple times. installing from source is not a good idea
[14:48] <pmjdebru1jn> oh wait
[14:48] <pmjdebru1jn> I was confused
[14:48] <pmjdebru1jn> that's the program
[14:48] <gfdgdfgdfgd> i tried with that pip installer too
[14:48] <pmjdebru1jn> itself
[14:48] <pmjdebru1jn> heh
[14:48] <Sysi> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install python-beautifulsoup
[14:49] <pmjdebru1jn> indeed
[14:49] <pmjdebru1jn> to get the old beautiful soup
[14:50] <pmjdebru1jn> gfdgdfgdfgd: basically you need to be mindful of which version of python you're using and which version of beautiful soup
[14:50] <gfdgdfgdfgd> oh i think i think it works now finally
[14:50] <gfdgdfgdfgd> is this older version of BS i installed?
[14:50] <pmjdebru1jn> yes
[14:51] <gfdgdfgdfgd> so is BS4 some kind of beta or unstable or what?
[14:51] <pmjdebru1jn> apt-cache python-beautifulsoup # will tell you the exact version
[14:51] <pmjdebru1jn> no, it's just a different package
[14:51] <pmjdebru1jn> you are probably referencing the old version in your code
[14:51] <pmjdebru1jn> from bs4 import BeautifulSoup
[14:52] <pmjdebru1jn> so it's different code for v4
[14:52] <gfdgdfgdfgd> oh got it
[14:52] <pmjdebru1jn> and then there's python versions
[14:52] <pmjdebru1jn> apt-cache search is your friend :)
[14:54] <gfdgdfgdfgd> yeah i installed requests on my own with pip. This thing is great!
[14:55] <gfdgdfgdfgd> Im new to linux so this is achievement to me
[14:56] <pmjdebru1jn> basically everything on your system is managed by the dpkg/apt package manager
[14:56] <pmjdebru1jn> most language modules are packaged that was too
[14:56] <pmjdebru1jn> using this single system it's easy to install/uninstall stuff and keep track
[14:56] <pmjdebru1jn> if you use pip or whatever system a language provides, may cause conflicts with the system apt/dpkg package manager
[14:57] <pmjdebru1jn> so try to use apt where possible, and fallback to pip when something can't be gotten via apt
[14:58] <gfdgdfgdfgd> sudo apt-get install requests is code to install requests modules?
[14:58] <pmjdebru1jn> it requests to install packages, whatever is in them
[14:58] <TheSheep> python-requests
[14:58] <pmjdebru1jn> it's for everything
[14:58] <pmjdebru1jn> not just python
[14:59] <pmjdebru1jn> the whole operating system consists of such packages
[14:59] <gfdgdfgdfgd> yea i would get a error of not found packages when i run it?
[14:59] <pmjdebru1jn> huh?
[14:59] <pmjdebru1jn> you need to know the package name, which is where apt-cache search comes in
[15:00] <pmjdebru1jn> there are many good books on this topic :)
[15:00] <pmjdebru1jn> which reminds me
[15:00] <gfdgdfgdfgd> so in example how could i go about to download chrome apt get way?
[15:00] <pmjdebru1jn> does anybody get this (on 13.04) http://files.pcode.nl/temp/xfwm-border.png
[15:01] <pmjdebru1jn> gfdgdfgdfgd: chrome is propreitary and thus not in apt
[15:01] <pmjdebru1jn> but chromium-browser is
[15:01] <gfdgdfgdfgd> yea that
[15:02] <gfdgdfgdfgd> when i try to download it on software center i get error
[15:02] <gfdgdfgdfgd> Software can't be installed or removed because the authentication service is not available. (org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name':  ':1.43'}): org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages
[15:19] <pmjdebru1jn> just use pat
[15:19] <pmjdebru1jn> apt-get install
[15:44] <brainwash> pmjdebru1jn: the visual glitch is caused by SNA (default accel method since 13.04) on systems with intel gfx
[15:45] <brainwash> pmjdebru1jn: the latest intel driver (git or PPA) might fix it, or you can simply switch back to the old method UXA
[15:56] <xubuntu783> I upgraded to Raring Ringtail 13.04, and now flash player does not work properly
[16:08] <pmjdebru1jn> brainwash: ah, that's quite helpful
[16:08] <pmjdebru1jn> now you mention it I vaguely recall discussion about that "default"
[16:18] <infamy> Anyone know where I can get Xubuntu on CD? My burner is broken. I know you can get Ubuntu on CD but I'm not seeing Xubuntu on CD (I may be overlooking it).
[16:21] <bazhang> for purchase?
[16:22] <infamy> I was hoping there would be a one-time free disc like with ubuntu.
[16:22] <pmjdebru1jn> infamy: you can create live usb drives too
[16:22] <pmjdebru1jn> infamy: those have been axed for some time now
[16:22] <pmjdebru1jn> the only place to get them for free is conferences I guess
[16:23] <infamy> pmjdebru1jn: How do I make it live install from USB storage?
[16:23] <infamy> Just put the iso on there?
[16:23] <pmjdebru1jn> no
[16:24] <pmjdebru1jn> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[16:24] <pmjdebru1jn> it's well documented on the ubuntu website
[16:25] <infamy> That works, thank you kindly.
[16:27] <infamy> OK I see now. This is easier than I thought it would be.
[18:44] <oelsen> hi. I noticed this kernel parameter for ext4 and it showed that I wrote way over 300GB on this netbook. I don't see how that is possible, I download to and on another drive.
[18:44] <oelsen> anyone knows something about that?
[18:45] <oelsen> is it a reliable metric?
[18:45] <TheSheep> oelsen: consider stuff like the web browser cache
[18:46] <oelsen> disabled
[18:46] <oelsen> and chromium does not behave so i moved his cache into a tmpfs
[18:47] <oelsen> also there is almost no swap, even after days of running
[18:47] <TheSheep> chceck iotop to see what is writing, maybe
[18:47] <oelsen> m
[18:48] <oelsen> ah, that is not in the base. I just thought...
[18:49] <oelsen> thanks for the tip
[18:49] <TheSheep> it's useful, along with powertop
[18:50]  * O-Pumpkin is away: Away
[18:51] <oelsen> ah well, I have my netbook plugged into the wall
[18:51] <oelsen> but thanks for that too
[18:51] <TheSheep> !away | O-Pumpkin
[18:53] <oelsen> nice to see that nothing changed the last 15 years on IRC
[18:54] <uberk> idlers?
[18:54] <uberk> i cam here to ask about a problem with my display. the screen is wrapped around the monitor and separated by a big black line
[18:54] <TheSheep> uberk: is that a crt or lcd screen?
[18:55] <uberk> lcd
[18:56] <TheSheep> uberk: there should be options in the monitor menu to tweak the geometry of your screen
[18:56] <uberk> you mean move it left or right?
[18:56] <TheSheep> uberk: yes
[18:57] <uberk> that just moves it but it doesnt wrap back around when i do it
[18:58] <TheSheep> uberk: did you try setting different resiltutions in display settings?
[18:58] <TheSheep> resolutions
[18:59] <uberk> theyre bothy at 1600x900
[19:01] <uberk> i cant even think of what the problem may be]
[19:01] <TheSheep> uberk: both?
[19:01] <TheSheep> uberk: are you not telling us something?
[19:02] <uberk> i only have one monitor, if that what your implying
[19:02] <uberk> i meant the os and the monitor
[19:02] <TheSheep> uberk: what happens when you change the resolution in the os?
[19:03] <uberk> everything gets bigger but a fifth of the display is still on the wrong side of the screen
[19:03] <TheSheep> uberk: what graphics card?
[19:06] <uberk> idk how to check for that on here
[19:06] <uberk> its an apu
[19:06] <uberk> with radeon graphics
[19:06] <uberk> sorry
[19:06] <TheSheep> lspci
[19:07] <TheSheep> the 'lspci' command in terminal will list your cards, the graphics card included
[19:07] <TheSheep> do you use the proprietary radeon driver?
[19:08] <uberk> i would imagine so.
[19:08] <uberk> i didnt rice anyhting
[19:08] <uberk> im just using the livecd because i had this problem with fedora too
[19:08] <TheSheep> then you are not using the proprietary driver, it has to be installed separately
[19:09] <TheSheep> you would go to system -> hardware drivers
[19:09] <uberk> id have to install first
[19:09] <uberk> fuck it ill just do that
[19:10] <uberk> maybe itll find the driver or something
[19:10] <TheSheep> it can also be a hardware issue, unfortunately
[19:11] <uberk> lol
[19:12] <uberk> this is why people dont use ganoo+loonix
[19:12] <uberk> if its a hardwaRE problem, then what?
[19:12] <TheSheep> then you need to fix your hardware, obviously
[19:13] <TheSheep> did you check that screen with a different computer?
[19:13] <uberk> it works fine with windows
[19:13] <TheSheep> do you get the same problem when it's still booting, before it load the operating system?
[19:13] <uberk> yep
[19:14] <TheSheep> ok, then it's not a hardware issue, the worst it could be is some bug in the drivers that wasn't yet fixed
[19:14] <TheSheep> but it may just work fine
[19:14] <TheSheep> you have to try
[19:15] <TheSheep> uberk: the default open-source drivers for radeon are not too good, because there is no good specification released by the manufacturer
[19:15] <TheSheep> uberk: but they provide their own, closed-source, binary drivers, just like on Windows
[19:16] <TheSheep> you can install them via that 'hardware drivers' menu
[19:16] <uberk> so what would the solution be? download their drivers?
[19:16] <TheSheep> of course I don't know 100% that this would help
[19:17] <TheSheep> but it's quite likely it will
[19:51] <infamy> Hello
[19:51] <bgardner> infamy: Hello
[19:51] <infamy> I have xubuntu installed, but am having an issue that I can't find a fix for on Google.
[19:51] <infamy> Check it out here
[19:52] <infamy> http://i.imgur.com/Y6LEXPj.png
[19:52] <infamy> My screen is split very weirdly
[19:52] <infamy> Anyone seen this before?
[19:53] <Sysi> can't find anything from from the pic
[19:53] <Sysi> *wrong
[19:53] <bgardner> infamy: Looks okay to me
[19:53] <infamy> hmm weird
[19:54] <infamy> the screen shot took correctly
[19:54] <infamy> but on MY display, I see half the screen on one side, half on the other
[19:54] <infamy> I wish the screenshot showed you what I see :/
[19:55] <elfy> try different words infamy :)
[19:55] <infamy> What's on the left should be on the right, and what's on the right should be on the left
[19:56] <infamy> and the mouse goes past where it normally would and rolls over to the other half of the screen
[19:56] <bgardner> infamy: So like if you sawed your monitor in half vertically, then swapped the two pieces?
[19:56] <elfy> multiple monitors?
[19:56] <infamy> that's kind of what it looks like
[19:56] <infamy> but this is a laptop, just one monitor
[19:58] <bgardner> infamy: Can you paste.ubuntu.com your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file?
[19:58] <infamy> Sure, give me one moment
[20:01] <infamy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5963789/
 infamy: So like if you sawed your monitor in half vertically, then swapped the two pieces?
[20:04] <infamy> precisely
[20:04] <bgardner> infamy: Bear with me, you have some strangeness in this log file.
[20:05] <infamy> Sure, thank you.
[20:10] <bgardner> infamy: Did you take the default video drivers that come with Ubuntu, or did you try to install drivers from ATI?
[20:11] <infamy> default
[20:12] <bgardner> infamy: Could you please paste.ubuntu.com the output of: sudo lshw -class display
[20:13] <infamy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5963823/
[20:16] <bgardner> infamy: Um.  Is fglrx installed?  dpkg -L fglrx
[20:17] <infamy> nope
[20:17] <infamy> it's not
[20:18] <bgardner> infamy: I'm a little bit out of my depth, but it looks to me like your copy of X wants to load fglrx for your card, which seems appropriate, but fglrx isn't installed.  If I were you, I would try installing it and see if X picks it up.  Anyone here think my advice unwise?
[20:19] <infamy> I'm installing it now. After it's done just a simple reboot?
[20:19] <bgardner> infamy: And cross fingers, yes.
[20:20] <infamy> Fingers crossed. Waiting for it to finish installing the package now.
[20:23] <infamy> Going down for reboot. brb.
[20:23] <bgardner> infamy: Good luck!
[20:23] <infamy> ty
[20:25] <infamy> bgardner: It worked. Thank you very much :)
[20:25] <bgardner> infamy: Glad to hear it!
[20:26] <dorian> hello.  I'm having trouble getting my broadcom 4311 wifi to work in my laptop.  can anyone help?
[20:27] <dorian> i tried following some online guides, but i get errors when i try to do modprobe -r wl "FATAL: wl in use"
[20:39] <David-A> dorian: i dont know what wl is, but if it is a wireless driver it is obviously in use, and you should disconnect or disable wireless first. i dont know if the networkmanager gui or ifconfig or something else is best for that. what guide did you read, and what does it say how to disable it first?
[21:47] <peyam> hi
[21:47] <peyam> I remove xfce4-panel
[21:47] <peyam> and I reinstall it now th valume icon is gone and when try to add the notification area
[21:47] <peyam> it doesnt com eback
[21:51] <peyam> solved
[21:51] <peyam> missing indicator plugin
[22:06] <infamy> bgardner: You still around?
[22:07] <kingnick42> eh what?
[22:07] <kingnick42> Was that me?
[22:08] <kingnick42> hmm.
[22:33] <infamy> How do I install a video driver that ends with .run?
[22:33] <infamy> My graphics are a bit glitchy so I went to get the exact driver from AMD.
[22:57] <pmjdebru1jn> infamy: wait
[22:57] <pmjdebru1jn> infamy: did you try to proprietary driver installer?
[22:58] <pmjdebru1jn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[22:58] <pmjdebru1jn> try the packages first
[23:31] <infamy> pmjdebru1jn, thanks
[23:31] <infamy> time to reboot and see if what all i've done is working
[23:31] <infamy> brb
[23:46] <dw5304> im having issues with their being no audio output over hdmi on an ati intergrated hdmi graphic card. i have allready verified that the device is listed in aplay -l and is also listed in alsa however their is no audio comming out over it.
[23:47] <dw5304> i have also read about chageing the boot options in grub readon.audio or something like that howver that didnt help
[23:48] <GridCube> dw5304, when youplay a sound stream open pavucontrol and choose the stream to go trhough hdmi
[23:49] <dw5304> i will try
[23:52] <dw5304> hdmi device not listed
[23:55] <GridCube> whats in the last tab of the pavucontrol you should see something like this: http://i.imgur.com/FjCywml.png
[23:56] <dw5304> em28xx audio
[23:56] <dw5304> built-in audio
[23:56] <dw5304> analog stero input
[23:56] <dw5304> analog stereo duplex
[23:57] <GridCube> dw5304, do not paste all the option
[23:57] <GridCube> s
[23:57] <dw5304> sorry
[23:57] <dw5304> thats it though
[23:57] <GridCube> so only analog its there?
[23:58] <dw5304> yes
[23:58] <GridCube> but you said you tinkered with the sound card settings previously?
[23:58] <dw5304> http://i.snag.gy/mr2R5.jpg
[23:58] <dw5304> only thiing i tinkered with was the grub option
[23:58] <dw5304> alsa still shows it
[23:58] <GridCube> oh thats a virtual machine
[23:58] <GridCube> :/
[23:59] <dw5304> no its no
[23:59] <dw5304> its pysical
[23:59] <dw5304> its a remote session i just joined to take a pic
[23:59] <GridCube> oh ok
[23:59] <dw5304> screenconnect
[23:59] <dw5304> as im on anouther box :)
[23:59] <GridCube> you dont need to sudo pavucontrol tho