[00:24] Hello everyone, I'm trying to adjust the clock of my Xubuntu 13.04. I'm trying sudo date 080719232013 and it works just fine, but once in a while it goes back to my old time... is there another way to adjust the clock? [00:45] I got booted a few times. If anybody responded since I mentioned having no trouble installing Ubuntu, I'd appreciate a re-post. Thanks! [01:37] which package replaces the lubuntu startup splash screen with the xubuntu one? === v1adimir is now known as kgb [03:32] kgb, how do you make rinux 10 times faster? [03:33] DoverMo: how many times faster? :)) [03:34] kgb, 40 [03:34] DoverMo: come to #xubuntu-offtopic, pls [04:06] hi all! ubuntu 13.04 is awesome! [06:24] Hey is anyone awake? I need a bit of help [06:25] I just installed xbuntu 12.04 for my bitcoin miner system and I get at this like loading screen and its just a top bar in the corrner, [06:28] Hey, Elfy, I have a problem could you be able to help? [06:28] or anyone? [06:33] HelmetDoe: You have a screenshot or more description? [06:37] Well When I started the first boot I get stuck at a gray screen with a loading bar in the top left corrner, [06:38] Now i just rebooted while pressing the left arror and alt and I found out im in my desktop and the screen is a bit messed up, about 1\8th of the left side is on the right, I'll grab a pic of it how [06:41] https://www.dropbox.com/s/uiskhxje5hxwo4f/20130808_023857.jpg [06:41] I got to the desktop but its kind of broke as you can see [06:44] ...I can't beleve how well i broke this lol [06:48] give me a minuit im going to install the amd drivers though comand line [06:57] alright i think i got this under controll, Im in the prosess of complining this I guess. [07:52] is there any way besides compiling to get current saucy kernel on precise? [07:53] Sysi: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ [07:57] I could give that a run with my ati hd 4870 since fglrx isn't good enough [07:57] ah, the fun of using blob drivers :) [07:58] (I actually installed windows after games didn't run) [08:48] Sysi: or you could just buy an nvidia card and call it a day :P [09:53] Hi, how can i make gnome-keyring to automatically unlock using lightdm and autologin (keyring password is blank / gnome compatibility mode activated) in Xubuntu 13.04 + 13.10 ? [10:34] hello === azeam is now known as azeam_afk [13:22] tried everything i can find on forums to disable screen blanking every 10 min can ne1 tell me how to turn this off [13:25] just install 12.10 on new laptop disabled power manager disabled screensaver uninstalled xscreensaver still every 10 min screen blanks any help [13:26] looked thru bios tomake sure it wasnt the prob [13:26] what did you set in xfce preferences? [13:27] I have a question. Why does xubuntu run beautifully on my 2006 vintage macbook, but almost not at all on my 8 core amd desktop? [13:27] xubuntu903: What does 'almost not at all' mean, specifically? [13:28] xubuntu903: is something using up all the system resources? have you installed any graphics card drivers? [13:28] xfce preferences? [13:28] jonzen: yes [13:28] it takes forever to install and then works only hesitantly [13:28] did you check your dmesg? [13:28] maybe an issue with your disk? [13:29] it's not the first time i've heard "something is dead slow" and it turns out to be a dying disk [13:29] smartctl can tell you [13:30] No. I've since gone back to KDE (kubuntu) and the desktop is running fine. For some reason or other, it didn't like xubuntu, or vice versa, at all. [13:31] xubuntu903: I assume kubuntu is on a different part of your disk, so that doesn't mean anything [13:32] seriously check smartctl and dmesg [13:32] by xfce preferences do you mean settings panel [13:32] jonzen: yes [13:32] kubuntu is loaded on the same disk that I installed xubuntu on. Go figure. [13:32] the disks are fine. [13:32] i even uninstalled xscreensaver turned off power manager in autostart [13:32] xubuntu903: it's not the same disk area of course [13:33] in theory you could have error on the specific part of the disk [13:33] regardless [13:33] having a dmesg will be very helpful [13:33] Both were installed on the same disk as the only OS. [13:33] xubuntu903: ah ok [13:33] how to dmesg pls [13:33] as I said, dmesg is likely to be helpful regardless [13:33] jonzen: that was for xubuntu903 [13:34] oh sorry [13:34] thank you. i'll check it out if i decide to try it again. [13:34] urgh [13:34] I assumed you wanted too [13:35] without more info this conversation is rather pointless [13:35] jonzen: if you uninstalled xscreensaver i doubt it's the screensaver [13:36] btw does your screen blank (but it's still on)? or does it go off? [13:36] also keep in mind that uninstalling something does not mean a running copy is stopped, so rebooting might help (if it IS still xscreensaver) [13:37] hehe i can really be dumb sometimes ty lemme reboot and try ty much [14:36] how the hell do i go about installing beautiful soup i tried everything and still it wont work?? [14:37] !language | gfdgdfgdfgd [14:37] gfdgdfgdfgd: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [14:37] gfdgdfgdfgd: also, please describe what you tried and how it didn't work [14:37] yea sorry im just stressed out bcs of problem [14:38] ok so i tried installing it from terminal and from their site [14:38] python-beautifulsoup for python 2.7, python3-bs4 for python3. [14:39] actually there is also python-bs4 for python 2.7 [14:39] Indeed. [14:39] i think i downloaded that python-bs4 [14:39] 2.7 [14:39] gfdgdfgdfgd: generally speaking "installing something from someone's site seldomly is a good idea: [14:39] gfdgdfgdfgd: you think? [14:40] gfdgdfgdfgd: unless you tell us exactly what you did and what error you got, we can't really help much [14:40] we are not physic [14:41] neither psychic nor in possession of a dictionary :P [14:42] I ate mine... [14:42] beautifulsoup4-4.2.1.tar.gz this is version [14:43] so i extract it on desktop and then go to terminal and type : sudo python setup.py isntall, and it still wont work [14:43] !info python-beautifulsoup [14:43] python-beautifulsoup (source: beautifulsoup): error-tolerant HTML parser for Python. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.1-1 (raring), package size 33 kB, installed size 160 kB [14:44] gfdgdfgdfgd: just install it with the software center [14:44] they dont have it [14:44] gfdgdfgdfgd: you do, it's in ubuntu's repositories, already packaged [14:44] gfdgdfgdfgd: as I said, avoid installing from source [14:45] sudo apt-get install python3-bs4 # doesn't work ? [14:45] gfdgdfgdfgd: ubottu just displayed the information about the package, so it's there [14:45] it's also in every other supported version [14:45] no that doesnt work neither pmjdebru1nj [14:45] what exact error do you get? [14:46] oh wait you don't have the universe repos enabled I suppose [14:46] pmjdebru1jn: it's in main [14:46] oh [14:46] you used wrong package name [14:46] Is there a command to tell you every installed program or library that is using "backports"? [14:46] to enable it i go to software center? [14:46] gfdgdfgdfgd: what's the exact error you get? [14:47] asd@asd-A6VMX:~/Desktop$ python BS.py Traceback (most recent call last): File "BS.py", line 1, in from BeautifulSoup import BeautifulSoup ImportError: No module named BeautifulSoup [14:48] gfdgdfgdfgd: no [14:48] gfdgdfgdfgd: we alraedy told you multiple times. installing from source is not a good idea [14:48] oh wait [14:48] I was confused [14:48] that's the program [14:48] i tried with that pip installer too [14:48] itself [14:48] heh [14:48] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install python-beautifulsoup [14:49] indeed [14:49] to get the old beautiful soup [14:50] gfdgdfgdfgd: basically you need to be mindful of which version of python you're using and which version of beautiful soup [14:50] oh i think i think it works now finally [14:50] is this older version of BS i installed? [14:50] yes [14:51] so is BS4 some kind of beta or unstable or what? [14:51] apt-cache python-beautifulsoup # will tell you the exact version [14:51] no, it's just a different package [14:51] you are probably referencing the old version in your code [14:51] from bs4 import BeautifulSoup [14:52] so it's different code for v4 [14:52] oh got it [14:52] and then there's python versions [14:52] apt-cache search is your friend :) [14:54] yeah i installed requests on my own with pip. This thing is great! [14:55] Im new to linux so this is achievement to me [14:56] basically everything on your system is managed by the dpkg/apt package manager [14:56] most language modules are packaged that was too [14:56] using this single system it's easy to install/uninstall stuff and keep track [14:56] if you use pip or whatever system a language provides, may cause conflicts with the system apt/dpkg package manager [14:57] so try to use apt where possible, and fallback to pip when something can't be gotten via apt [14:58] sudo apt-get install requests is code to install requests modules? [14:58] it requests to install packages, whatever is in them [14:58] python-requests [14:58] it's for everything [14:58] not just python [14:59] the whole operating system consists of such packages [14:59] yea i would get a error of not found packages when i run it? [14:59] huh? [14:59] you need to know the package name, which is where apt-cache search comes in [15:00] there are many good books on this topic :) [15:00] which reminds me [15:00] so in example how could i go about to download chrome apt get way? [15:00] does anybody get this (on 13.04) http://files.pcode.nl/temp/xfwm-border.png [15:01] gfdgdfgdfgd: chrome is propreitary and thus not in apt [15:01] but chromium-browser is [15:01] yea that [15:02] when i try to download it on software center i get error [15:02] Software can't be installed or removed because the authentication service is not available. (org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name': ':1.43'}): org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages [15:19] just use pat [15:19] apt-get install [15:44] pmjdebru1jn: the visual glitch is caused by SNA (default accel method since 13.04) on systems with intel gfx [15:45] pmjdebru1jn: the latest intel driver (git or PPA) might fix it, or you can simply switch back to the old method UXA [15:56] I upgraded to Raring Ringtail 13.04, and now flash player does not work properly [16:08] brainwash: ah, that's quite helpful [16:08] now you mention it I vaguely recall discussion about that "default" [16:18] Anyone know where I can get Xubuntu on CD? My burner is broken. I know you can get Ubuntu on CD but I'm not seeing Xubuntu on CD (I may be overlooking it). [16:21] for purchase? [16:22] I was hoping there would be a one-time free disc like with ubuntu. [16:22] infamy: you can create live usb drives too [16:22] infamy: those have been axed for some time now [16:22] the only place to get them for free is conferences I guess [16:23] pmjdebru1jn: How do I make it live install from USB storage? [16:23] Just put the iso on there? [16:23] no [16:24] http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows [16:24] it's well documented on the ubuntu website [16:25] That works, thank you kindly. [16:27] OK I see now. This is easier than I thought it would be. === Taylr0x is now known as JDTaylor [18:44] hi. I noticed this kernel parameter for ext4 and it showed that I wrote way over 300GB on this netbook. I don't see how that is possible, I download to and on another drive. [18:44] anyone knows something about that? [18:45] is it a reliable metric? [18:45] oelsen: consider stuff like the web browser cache [18:46] disabled [18:46] and chromium does not behave so i moved his cache into a tmpfs [18:47] also there is almost no swap, even after days of running [18:47] chceck iotop to see what is writing, maybe [18:47] m [18:48] ah, that is not in the base. I just thought... [18:49] thanks for the tip [18:49] it's useful, along with powertop [18:50] * O-Pumpkin is away: Away [18:51] ah well, I have my netbook plugged into the wall [18:51] but thanks for that too [18:51] !away | O-Pumpkin [18:51] O-Pumpkin: Please do not use noisy away messages and nicks in Ubuntu channels. It is annoying and unnecessary. Use the command "/away " to set your client away silently. See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines» [18:53] nice to see that nothing changed the last 15 years on IRC [18:54] idlers? [18:54] i cam here to ask about a problem with my display. the screen is wrapped around the monitor and separated by a big black line [18:54] uberk: is that a crt or lcd screen? [18:55] lcd [18:56] uberk: there should be options in the monitor menu to tweak the geometry of your screen [18:56] you mean move it left or right? [18:56] uberk: yes [18:57] that just moves it but it doesnt wrap back around when i do it [18:58] uberk: did you try setting different resiltutions in display settings? [18:58] resolutions [18:59] theyre bothy at 1600x900 [19:01] i cant even think of what the problem may be] [19:01] uberk: both? [19:01] uberk: are you not telling us something? [19:02] i only have one monitor, if that what your implying [19:02] i meant the os and the monitor [19:02] uberk: what happens when you change the resolution in the os? [19:03] everything gets bigger but a fifth of the display is still on the wrong side of the screen [19:03] uberk: what graphics card? [19:06] idk how to check for that on here [19:06] its an apu [19:06] with radeon graphics [19:06] sorry [19:06] lspci [19:07] the 'lspci' command in terminal will list your cards, the graphics card included [19:07] do you use the proprietary radeon driver? [19:08] i would imagine so. [19:08] i didnt rice anyhting [19:08] im just using the livecd because i had this problem with fedora too [19:08] then you are not using the proprietary driver, it has to be installed separately [19:09] you would go to system -> hardware drivers [19:09] id have to install first [19:09] fuck it ill just do that [19:10] maybe itll find the driver or something [19:10] it can also be a hardware issue, unfortunately [19:11] lol [19:12] this is why people dont use ganoo+loonix [19:12] if its a hardwaRE problem, then what? [19:12] then you need to fix your hardware, obviously [19:13] did you check that screen with a different computer? [19:13] it works fine with windows [19:13] do you get the same problem when it's still booting, before it load the operating system? [19:13] yep [19:14] ok, then it's not a hardware issue, the worst it could be is some bug in the drivers that wasn't yet fixed [19:14] but it may just work fine [19:14] you have to try [19:15] uberk: the default open-source drivers for radeon are not too good, because there is no good specification released by the manufacturer [19:15] uberk: but they provide their own, closed-source, binary drivers, just like on Windows [19:16] you can install them via that 'hardware drivers' menu [19:16] so what would the solution be? download their drivers? [19:16] of course I don't know 100% that this would help [19:17] but it's quite likely it will [19:51] Hello [19:51] infamy: Hello [19:51] I have xubuntu installed, but am having an issue that I can't find a fix for on Google. [19:51] Check it out here [19:52] http://i.imgur.com/Y6LEXPj.png [19:52] My screen is split very weirdly [19:52] Anyone seen this before? [19:53] can't find anything from from the pic [19:53] *wrong [19:53] infamy: Looks okay to me [19:53] hmm weird [19:54] the screen shot took correctly [19:54] but on MY display, I see half the screen on one side, half on the other [19:54] I wish the screenshot showed you what I see :/ [19:55] try different words infamy :) [19:55] What's on the left should be on the right, and what's on the right should be on the left [19:56] and the mouse goes past where it normally would and rolls over to the other half of the screen [19:56] infamy: So like if you sawed your monitor in half vertically, then swapped the two pieces? [19:56] multiple monitors? [19:56] that's kind of what it looks like [19:56] but this is a laptop, just one monitor [19:58] infamy: Can you paste.ubuntu.com your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file? [19:58] Sure, give me one moment [20:01] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5963789/ [20:04] infamy: So like if you sawed your monitor in half vertically, then swapped the two pieces? [20:04] precisely [20:04] infamy: Bear with me, you have some strangeness in this log file. [20:05] Sure, thank you. [20:10] infamy: Did you take the default video drivers that come with Ubuntu, or did you try to install drivers from ATI? [20:11] default [20:12] infamy: Could you please paste.ubuntu.com the output of: sudo lshw -class display [20:13] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5963823/ [20:16] infamy: Um. Is fglrx installed? dpkg -L fglrx [20:17] nope [20:17] it's not [20:18] infamy: I'm a little bit out of my depth, but it looks to me like your copy of X wants to load fglrx for your card, which seems appropriate, but fglrx isn't installed. If I were you, I would try installing it and see if X picks it up. Anyone here think my advice unwise? [20:19] I'm installing it now. After it's done just a simple reboot? [20:19] infamy: And cross fingers, yes. [20:20] Fingers crossed. Waiting for it to finish installing the package now. [20:23] Going down for reboot. brb. [20:23] infamy: Good luck! [20:23] ty [20:25] bgardner: It worked. Thank you very much :) [20:25] infamy: Glad to hear it! [20:26] hello. I'm having trouble getting my broadcom 4311 wifi to work in my laptop. can anyone help? [20:27] i tried following some online guides, but i get errors when i try to do modprobe -r wl "FATAL: wl in use" [20:39] dorian: i dont know what wl is, but if it is a wireless driver it is obviously in use, and you should disconnect or disable wireless first. i dont know if the networkmanager gui or ifconfig or something else is best for that. what guide did you read, and what does it say how to disable it first? === azeam_afk is now known as azeam [21:47] hi [21:47] I remove xfce4-panel [21:47] and I reinstall it now th valume icon is gone and when try to add the notification area [21:47] it doesnt com eback [21:51] solved [21:51] missing indicator plugin [22:06] bgardner: You still around? [22:07] eh what? [22:07] Was that me? [22:08] hmm. [22:33] How do I install a video driver that ends with .run? [22:33] My graphics are a bit glitchy so I went to get the exact driver from AMD. === azeam is now known as azeam_afk [22:57] infamy: wait [22:57] infamy: did you try to proprietary driver installer? [22:58] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI [22:58] try the packages first [23:31] pmjdebru1jn, thanks [23:31] time to reboot and see if what all i've done is working [23:31] brb === JDTaylor is now known as Taylr0x [23:46] im having issues with their being no audio output over hdmi on an ati intergrated hdmi graphic card. i have allready verified that the device is listed in aplay -l and is also listed in alsa however their is no audio comming out over it. [23:47] i have also read about chageing the boot options in grub readon.audio or something like that howver that didnt help [23:48] dw5304, when youplay a sound stream open pavucontrol and choose the stream to go trhough hdmi [23:49] i will try [23:52] hdmi device not listed [23:55] whats in the last tab of the pavucontrol you should see something like this: http://i.imgur.com/FjCywml.png [23:56] em28xx audio [23:56] built-in audio [23:56] analog stero input [23:56] analog stereo duplex [23:57] dw5304, do not paste all the option [23:57] s [23:57] sorry [23:57] thats it though [23:57] so only analog its there? [23:58] yes [23:58] but you said you tinkered with the sound card settings previously? [23:58] http://i.snag.gy/mr2R5.jpg [23:58] only thiing i tinkered with was the grub option [23:58] alsa still shows it [23:58] oh thats a virtual machine [23:58] :/ [23:59] no its no [23:59] its pysical [23:59] its a remote session i just joined to take a pic [23:59] oh ok [23:59] screenconnect [23:59] as im on anouther box :) [23:59] you dont need to sudo pavucontrol tho