[00:13] im getting an error while trying to flash ubuntu touch: "phablet-flash community --device i9100". phablet-flash: error: argument -d/--device: invalid choice: 'i9100' (choose from 'mako', 'maguro', 'manta', 'grouper') [00:19] fat: what version of phablet-flash are you using? are you following some documentation that says to use that command? [00:20] slangasek: how do i find out my version [00:20] fat: 'apt-cache policy phablet-tools' [00:22] slangasek: screenshot http://uploadnow.org/image/350041-Screenshot.png [00:23] fat: so I can say with confidence that the above command will not work with that version of phablet-tools; and if it works with some other version, I don't know anything about it [00:23] were you following some documentation that said that command would work? [00:24] slangasek: i read the line in the touch/devices page: "Device names in bold can be flashed by using phablet-flash community --device (ie: i9100). " [00:24] slangasek: should i update my phablet tools [00:26] fat: you already have the current version. The information on that page is apparently wrong [00:27] slangasek: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices its the offical ubuntu page. and its on other xda threads http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44420247 [00:27] yes, I know it's the official Ubuntu page; that doesn't mean the info there is correct or complete ;) [00:28] slangasek: fat it's preemptive, please refer to dholbach's blog [00:29] hmm [00:29] I don't think it's a good idea to change the wiki in advance of the code [00:29] but ok, it's done [00:29] fat: that means you want https://daniel.holba.ch/blog/2013/08/want-to-try-ubuntu-touch-on-your-phone-were-almost-there/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=want-to-try-ubuntu-touch-on-your-phone-were-almost-there [00:30] slangasek: I'm assuming it's preemptive though, I didn't edit the page [00:30] porters are editing those pages [00:30] well, dholbach did [00:30] oh, or himself, yeah [00:30] sergiusens: do i execute: "bzr branch lp:~sergiusens/phablet-tools/flash_changecd flash_change./phablet-flash community --device i9100" [00:31] fat: yes, assuming you meant to add spaces there [00:31] carriage returns, rather... [00:32] installing bzr now [00:33] slangasek: bzr: ERROR: no such option: --device [00:34] those are three separate commands [00:34] you've run them together, they need to be run separately [00:34] bzr branch lp:~sergiusens/phablet-tools/flash_change [00:34] cd flash_change [00:34] ./phablet-flash community --device i9100 [00:34] right... [00:35] oh [01:01] hi i was curious if anyone knew what battery life of ubuntu touch on a nexus 7 is like? === boiko_ is now known as boiko [01:15] slangasek: ok i finally finished, the terminal shows "INFO:phablet-flash:Once completed the device should reboot into Ubuntu". it boots into android [01:16] sergiusens: ^^ any thoughts? [01:17] slangasek: did i have to wipe data/ factory reset [01:18] fat: I don't know; I only have experience on the nexus devices, not on the community ports [01:18] Would this technology be put into the Ubuntu Edge? [01:18] http://www.vyralize.com/3854/new-samsung-chip-could-lead-to-smartphones-with-384gb-of-storage-space/ [01:21] fat: what device was this? [01:22] sergiusensL i9100. samsung galaxy s 2 [01:22] slangasek: I'll take it from here... may be a million things :-) [01:22] fat: what recovery image do you have? [01:22] recovery image: ? [01:22] fat: are you using stock android? [01:22] sergiusens: yes [01:23] fat: well first step is to make your device flashable with recovery images [01:23] fat: that is not automated for various reasons [01:23] sergiusens: alright i guess [01:24] sergiusens: how should i do this [01:25] fat: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_i9100 [01:25] fat: please read that carefully [01:26] fat: ogra_ may log back on in a few hours and give you some advise on that [01:26] ok [01:26] fat: he has that device [01:27] sergiusens: im downloading cynanogenmod 10.1 2013 [01:30] sergiusens: surely phablet-flash should error out earlier if it's failing to flash? [01:31] slangasek: I'm not sure I can figure out what recovery image people have... let me see [01:31] Can't the ubuntu mobile be heavily modified? | http://askubuntu.com/q/330388 [01:31] sergiusens: ah; so you're just pushing the image to the disk and relying on the recovery image to do something sensible with it when rebooted, right [01:32] slangasek: yes... the recovery images are scriptable [01:32] does Ubuntu Touch have "emergency" remote access to all users who use the OS, just like Google does with Android and Apple with iOS? [01:33] screenshot http://uploadnow.org/image/350042-Screenshot.png [01:33] slangasek: same concept is used on the image upgrade system [01:34] fat: if that screenshot is from before flashing the recovery image, that's expected === _salem is now known as salem_ [01:35] Guest68418: given that locking isn't implemented at all yet (exposed), it should be today... the implementation is work in progress [01:39] sergiusens, does Canonical plan to have remote access to all Ubuntu Touch devices for security purposes, which is common on other OSes? [01:41] Guest68418: I don't know [01:42] I'm not sure I understand the question [01:42] or is this about pushing security updates [01:42] if so, yes... devices will be updated [01:48] Ubuntu's desktop releases update through the package manager, which is (optionally) user-initiated. I would be surprised if Ubuntu Touch is significantly different. [01:48] http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2013/08/the-fbi-can-remotely-activate-microphones-in-android-phones-to-record-conversations/ [01:50] http://techcrunch.com/2013/08/02/fbi-can-remotely-activate-android-smartphone-and-laptop-mics-wsj-reports/ [01:50] how is that news? [01:50] Guest68418: That sounds like they're installing malware on the phones to do that, rather than using a built-in backdoor. And if they're doing it at the firmware level there's nothing the OS can do about it. [01:50] http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/06/07/nsa_surveillance_iphones_make_snooping_easy_for_spies_and_law_enforcement.html [01:51] on Android, check out the permissions on Google Services [01:54] It has access to pretty much everything, which... sounds pretty much right, given what it does [01:54] ryukafalz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ImageBasedUpgrades [01:55] also "some of these permissions are available to Google Services Framework because it runs in the same process as Google Contacts Sync, Google Bookmarks Sync, Google Play services, Google Account Manager and Network Location" [01:55] sergiusens: Hmm, interesting [01:56] I do like this -> "We don't intend this to become the only way to update Ubuntu machines, and the use of apt/dpkg will remain supported with most devices having some kind of switch to opt out of image based updates and re-enable apt." [01:57] https://threatpost.com/android-also-gives-google-remote-app-installation-power-062510 [02:00] Guest68418: I the user-visible use case for remote app install power is to pick something from google play in your desktop browser and have it install on your device. [02:02] Yep, that sounds about right [02:03] I would be very surprised if Canonical had the same power over Ubuntu Touch though [02:03] Google, Apple and Microsoft all have these remote access capabilities [02:05] Yes, but Ubuntu Touch is (at least partially) a community project - and Canonical isn't a web services company that will install proprietary apps on every device [02:05] Canonical already installs Zeitgeist and Geoclue on Ubuntu... and also pushing for cloud computing with Ubuntu One [02:05] The closest thing they have to that is Ubuntu One, and in that case the client is open source [02:05] honestly, if you're truely paranoid, you shouldn't be carrying a mobile phone [02:05] http://customizeubuntu.com/preferences/privacy/disabling-privacy-invasive-zeitgeist [02:06] you can be tracked just based on the phones connectivity to the cell towers [02:06] Geoclue: LGPL. Zeitgeist: LGPL. [02:06] the license is not relevant [02:06] Honestly I don't care if my own phone is tracking what I do so long as it doesn't upload that somewhere else [02:07] it is very relevant, because it means you can see exactly what it does [02:07] yes [02:07] does Ubuntu Touch have Zeitgeist installed? [02:07] assuming the compiler wasn't compromised [02:08] detrout: Ahh, yes, there's always that. And assuming the chips they're running on aren't backdoored as well. ;) [02:09] Re: Zeitgeist, I don't know, I don't yet have a device that will run it. Soon! [02:11] Anyway even if it is installed, can't you just... disable it? [02:11] and Zeitgeist does have privacy controls as well [02:13] LOL [02:13] no one interested buying Edge [02:13] that's sad [02:14] personally i'm torn between jolla & edge. [02:15] Jolla doesn't look like it's coming to the US anytime soon, which for me is a bit of a dealbreaker [02:15] * ryukafalz is on a silly US CDMA network [02:16] wishing Ubuntu Touch ran on my CDMA Galaxy Nexus as well heh [02:16] I'm using an australlian N9 on US T-mobile [02:16] (I mean, it does, but lack of radio support is meh) [02:17] I think before people pay money for a phone which doesn't exists before, get the software ready first [02:17] I have a doubt for the quality of software if it's not done yet [02:18] it would be nice to see shipped versions of either before handing over money [02:18] after seeing the edge demo, it'd be nice to know what its battery life 'll be like. [02:18] detrout: 1 hour ? [02:19] Silicon anode battery is new [02:19] there should be a reason why other vendor didn't implement it [02:20] I was just going with only recently came out, they are targeting a mid-2014 release. [02:21] technology itself isn't stable I think [02:21] the current phones may have just been developed before the new technology was released. [02:21] Battery, if things go wrong it will blow your ass off [02:21] detrout: all Li-ion battery technolody is patented by Sony [02:22] wonder if someone didn't want to play the licensing game then? [02:22] n.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanowire_battery [02:23] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanowire_battery [02:23] deferred to 2015 [02:23] so you think it will be ready ? [02:24] if first phone ever build, and battery blow up, it will be game ovcer for ubuntu phone [02:24] over* [02:24] it goes on to say amprius is shipping batteries [02:25] why would you prefer Ubuntu Touch over other alternatives [02:25] Guest68418: spec is strong [02:26] detrout: long term usage haven't been tested yet [02:26] check how many Li-ion battery blow up in last 10 years [02:26] especially Dell laptop incident [02:26] it will be on fire by itself [02:27] 128GB storage, do you really need that much ? [02:27] their goal is a hybrid phone/laptop [02:27] 128 makes more sense in that case [02:28] does any word processing application could work with microsoft office on linux at all? [02:28] I am worry the format will offset [02:28] open/libre office works almost as well as mac / windows MS office. [02:28] if so, desktop part wouldn't work [02:29] detrout: really? [02:29] hmm [02:29] well i'm being sneaky [02:29] there are periodically issues sending files between different versions of word or different platforms of word [02:30] open/libreoffice's compatibility is similar to the overall compatibility of word with different versions of itself. [02:30] http://craigacgomez.blogspot.com/2012/09/installing-microsoft-office-2010-in.html [02:31] LOL [02:31] WTF [02:31] so run Wine + Office 2012 ? [02:31] Just an article I found [02:31] 2010 [02:31] i doubt that'll work on the touch as its an arm cpu [02:31] Sorry [02:32] Correct [02:32] unless some crazy person has ported wine to run windows phone binaries [02:32] lol [02:32] so you want to run Wine on ARM platform ?! [02:32] you are kind of out of mind :P [02:32] Yes [02:32] apologies [02:32] as i understand it there is a windows phone version of office [02:32] it's slow as crap on desktop already [02:33] very true [02:33] my better bet would be running android emu with office for android running on edge [02:33] what I heard is the ms office android app kind of sucks and is mostly just a portal for office365 [02:34] really ? well that shit [02:35] Ubuntu should learn from MIUI [02:35] http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/microsoft-office-mobile-android-review/ [02:35] Mi before release their first phone, they build MIUI first [02:35] does that shitty microsoft ever make anything usable at all [02:36] not any more [02:36] their logic of "just work" doesn't fit the new era of expectation [02:37] we, as linux guy, want perfect application and OS [02:37] in fact GUI application on linux still failing sometime [02:45] Would it be spossible to install ubuntu touch and a htc droid eris [02:45] Old phone [02:45] Why force shutdown help Ubuntu recognize hp un2400 module instead of normal shutdown? | http://askubuntu.com/q/330411 [02:45] on a htc droid eris* [02:54] Is it possible to install ubuntu touch on a htc droid eris? [03:14] powhatan-dan: maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices will help? === salem_ is now known as _salem === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo === tomreyn_ is now known as tomreyn [06:47] jppiiroi1en: hi. installed ubuntu-sdk, started qtcreator, created simple touch app: running gives me error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5965295/ [06:47] known? [06:48] on saucy that is [06:52] good morning [06:54] hi dholbach [06:54] hi asac === Namidairo is now known as Namidairo`bnc === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo [07:31] Hello. === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [08:30] I'm not quite sure... can somebody help make the auto-merger in https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/phablet-tools/flash_change/+merge/177927 happy? [08:37] hi [08:40] rsalveti, you're not up are you? [08:40] rsalveti, I think I'm onto something [08:41] diwic: yes [08:41] rsalveti, I suspect that qmi_cci, in its call to get_property [08:41] right [08:41] it gets the broadband value [08:41] rsalveti, does not reserve fully 92 bytes [08:41] for the value [08:42] rsalveti, do you ever sleep?! [08:42] seb128: I sleep in some weird timezones :-) [08:42] ;-) [08:42] rsalveti, so strncpy in property_get_socket is overwriting stack memory [08:42] diwic: hm, right [08:42] I did see that it works with a previous version of libhybris [08:43] rsalveti, including a return address used later on [08:43] doesn't that small like what groleo spoke about earlier? [08:43] er, smell [08:43] could be, but I believe the version I tested didn't have that patch [08:43] and was still crashing [08:43] entirely possible my property_get was a tad broken too [08:44] rsalveti, ok. I'm going to change property_get_socket to not call strncpy with the full 92 bytes and see if that helps. [08:45] actually the version I got had that patch in already, so it might indeed be the problem [08:45] diwic: yup [08:49] diwic: yup, you got it [08:49] - strncpy(value, msg.value, sizeof(msg.value)); [08:49] + strncpy(value, msg.value, sizeof(value)); [08:49] fixes it [08:50] Stskeeps: as suggested by groleo [08:51] let me test it better and push a fix [08:55] sizeof(value) ? [08:55] rsalveti, isn't value a pointer, so sizeof(value) = 4 ? [08:56] yeah, sorry, that was a quick diff, the real change I did on the device was checking the size of it properly [08:57] rsalveti, yeah, you need to do a strlen on msg.value [08:57] yup, will change the code to verify value as well [08:59] qmi_cci seems to allocate about 32 bytes for the string, so it might be a typo, they wrote PROP_NAME_MAX instead of PROP_VALUE_MAX :-) [08:59] let me flash latest [09:00] haha [09:00] there you go [09:06] rsalveti, let me know when you have it in a ppa and I'll download it and continue from there, no use in us duplicating that work [09:07] diwic: sure, will push to the archive directly [09:07] diwic: one thing we need to update at that ppa as well is the new telepathy-ofono [09:07] which is the one now doing the audioflinger logic [09:07] it was just pushed to the archive [09:07] and afaik tiago added a build option to disable the audioflinger code path [09:08] and a new ofono should land later today without that logic you had to remove for the ppa as well [09:10] Good morning all, happy Friday and happy Book Lovers' Day! :-D [09:17] ogra_: image going well? [09:17] no .... as every day it will start at 10 UTC :P [09:17] ogra_: can we start it 3 hours earlier :)? [09:18] but what doesnt run yet cant be bad either ;) [09:18] run it :) [09:18] lol [09:18] how can i run it? [09:18] asac, only if daily-release moves 3h earlier [09:18] would love to just run it all the time on this other machine [09:18] if i build now we might miss bits from it [09:19] yeah, i would love that too :) [09:19] just a constant loop of builds :) [09:20] but i think even the calxeda builder is shared ... there are other images that build [09:20] we cant steal all build power :) === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away [09:55] ogra_: did you push the 08 build? [09:55] after trying? === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [10:04] asac, yeah, its in your backlog :) [10:06] I'm not quite sure... can somebody help make the auto-merger in https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/phablet-tools/flash_change/+merge/177927 happy? [10:07] ogra_, good work on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ContainerArchitecture [10:07] is this something which should be linked and mentioned in the porting guide [10:07] ? [10:07] dholbach, yeah, i'm still looking for a closing paragraph and wanted to add some stuff about maintaining the container [10:08] but i think its already good enough [10:10] ogra_, any idea on what I could do regarding the merge proposal mentioned above? [10:10] or anyone else could do? [10:12] dholbach, well, seems like rsalveti needs to approve again [10:12] rsalveti, yo yo! [10:12] dholbach: waiting someone from QA to approve it [10:12] hum, he approved 5h ago [10:12] ahhh ok [10:13] that'd be plars? [10:13] don't want to break any other qa logic that might be depending on it [10:13] dholbach: yeah, or doanac or gema :-) [10:13] rsalveti: I also did https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/utah/phablet_flash_syntax/+merge/179318 and https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins/phablet-flash-new-syntax/+merge/179317 [10:14] dholbach: ^ [10:14] I don't want to rush things, but it'd be AWESOME if it was landed today, so we could announce it at XDA DevCon with slightly easier instructions ;-) [10:15] sergiusens, great work [10:16] rsalveti, dholbach: are you talking about https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/phablet-tools/flash_change/+merge/177927 ? Both Andy and I marked it as approved [10:17] yep [10:17] oh yeah, that's right [10:17] plars: sure, but wanted to make sure we're not breaking anything :-) [10:17] if it's fine for you, I'll happrove it then [10:17] yoohoo! champagne! :) [10:18] DONE [10:18] cheers [10:18] rsalveti: we'll make extra sure before actually upgrading it on our systems, but other than the minor comment I had that he said he would fix on the next revision I was good with it [10:18] dholbach: once merged you need to ping someone from didrocks's team to trigger the daily job for it [10:18] so it can land in the archive [10:18] plars: awesome [10:19] didrocks, gotcha [10:19] err, rsalveti: gotcha :) [10:20] How can I try webbrowser app on pc? What are requirements? === jibel_ is now known as jibel [10:28] Are there already specs of the Ubuntu Edge? I'm interested in details such as battery lifetime [10:28] how could there be if the final hardware is not defined [10:29] the hardware will be chosen together with the founders that paid for the device ... within the frame that canonical has given and after reviewing bemchmarks for the different parts [10:31] so you cant really predict such values ... but the aim is definitely to not be worse than any other current highend smartphone even with a lot higher performance === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [10:37] ogra_, that's what I wanted to know, if the hardware was known or there were prototypes or something [10:37] there are three prototypes .... but without any electronics [10:38] anyway, is there any hint about the battery life? i.e. is it expected to be longer/shorter/similar to other smartphones? [10:38] e.g. if this is intended as an everyday phone it would probably have a similar batt lifetine [10:38] well, people want to use it ... should be similar if not better than a current highend spartphone [10:38] if it's intended as "I don't care the battery lasts 3 hours, I want POWER in my phone!" then probably shorter [10:39] that wont be the case [10:39] it should definitely last a day or more [10:39] however there might be plans on "Let's make a damn long batt life! This is Linux and doesn't have " [10:40] battery life should be in the realm of any other smartphone ... [10:40] e.g. I don't know if the Java virtual machine uses a lot of battery; maybe stuff like that could be avoided [10:41] well, you cant avoid it in android ... the edge will be dual boot [10:41] ubuntu touch doesnt ship any java by default currently [10:41] I see [10:41] that's good [10:41] it used HTML5-based applications, right? [10:42] and Qt5/QML [10:42] but with a more open "Use whatever programming platform you want" policy [10:42] kinda weird, since Ubuntu has always been more in the Gtk end [10:42] thats changing currently [10:42] the ubuntu touch interface is the base for the future desktop UI [10:43] and will regular Ubuntu programs run there? [10:43] ogra_: the ubuntu touch interface is the base for the future of personal and mobile computing [10:43] well [10:44] I don't kinda like the idea of a desktop UI being modeled after a touchscreen UI [10:44] s/kinda/quite/ [10:44] cousteau, the desktop wont change ... [10:44] it will look and feel pretty much the same as today [10:44] oh, so only the underlying API will [10:44] just the implementation changes [10:45] today it uses xorg and compiz and glue and duct tape .... [10:45] soon it will be one proper stack based on Mir, Qt and QML on all UI form factors [10:45] to be honest, I loved the old aspect; I haven't gotten used to Unity yet [10:47] anyone with experience putting touch on to the htc desire z? [10:48] another thing: what about instant messaging programs? I guess stuff like Empathy/Pidgin etc will be easy to install or even available by default, but are there plans to contact IM app developers to ask for an Ubuntu version? [10:49] indeed there are [10:53] huh, I *think* I've installed ubuntu to my htc desire z, but I just have a black screen right now [10:53] ...or will Canonical just wait until Google Talk takes over the world, and then use any XMPP client? [10:53] could it be booting? [10:54] nothing happens when I hit the power button [10:55] can you see it via adb ? [10:55] how do I tell if I can see it? [10:56] adb devices shoukd tell === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [10:59] ok, I'm back in to clockwork mod [11:01] xnox: check email, just exported the android tarball via phablet.u.c [11:01] rsalveti: looking [11:01] ogra_: glue and duck tape is that what they call nux nowadays ;) [11:01] yeah :) [11:02] rsalveti: cool. i have those rebased & i'll follow up. [11:05] cousteau: google talk is dead, it's google hangouts now, and that doesn't use xmpp. Plus they will possibly soon move over to the html5 video conf protocol that is being worked on in Firefox and Chrome. [11:05] damn [11:06] cousteau: as for im telepathy is built in so there is no reason why someone couldn't throw an app together === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch [11:07] by just developing a telepathy plugin, right? [11:07] didrocks: i'd like to put android package under daily release. There are two parts to it: updating to latest android source code, and doing no change rebuild if (kernel,hybris,platform-api) change. [11:07] I guess Google could do the same [11:07] xnox: we need a bzr branch with packaging in split mode [11:07] didrocks: at the moment the new upstream android code is a tarball, but we can equally cron it to be available in a bzr branch. [11:07] ...or try to use the damn XMPP, I mean, there are already too many wheels to invent a new one! [11:07] xnox: doing no change rebuild will need a manual trigger then (it's just pushing a button) [11:08] didrocks, xnox, i'm not so sure thats a good idea [11:08] xnox: yeah, please do that import ;) [11:08] this package will get tons and tons of no change rebuilds [11:08] since it pulls bianries from other packages during build [11:09] hum [11:09] didrocks, do you think we can get a daily build done from lp:phablet-tools? [11:09] i dont think daily-release is a good concept for such a package [11:09] rsalveti, do we backport phablet-tools in a ppa every now and then? [11:09] dholbach: I'll run one soon (testing the 3h-dailies) [11:09] didrocks: ok. I will make a branch. I guess it is no change rebuild that we will be after. [11:09] dholbach: everything merged to trunk? [11:09] * dholbach hugs didrocks [11:09] * didrocks hugs dholbach back [11:10] dholbach: yes, sergiusens usually copies it to the ppa manually [11:10] didrocks: ogra_: i know that. hence it will be rate-limitted and/or on manual. But (a) it should be automated and (b) there should be multiple people who can pull the trigger. [11:10] xnox: let's discuss that on Monday? quite busy with other moving parts and pings, I think a meeting with ogra, you will help to see exactly what is needed and what's the right strategy [11:10] rsalveti, sweet - then I'll update the instructions on the wiki and in my blog [11:10] actually, I don't see why would it be hard to make an IM service with support for MULTIPLE protocols [11:10] didrocks: ok. I'm at Debconf next week though =) [11:10] didrocks: but we can randevouz informally on irc to chat about it. [11:11] yeah, let's do that :) [11:11] didrocks, sounds good [11:11] * xnox *rendezvous [11:11] ;) [11:11] * xnox j'ai ne parle pas francais [11:11] *je [11:21] xnox, heh, you should have waited with your no change rebuild ... rsalveti just uploaded a new hybris [11:21] ogra_: in related things, how is the rootfs-ish-cdimage-ish branch[es] to use android package? do you need any changes in the package layout and by-products? [11:21] ogra_: *sigh* [11:21] no worries, this upload doesn't affect anything in the android side [11:21] xnox, its in, the livefs builder already uses the imgs ... working on cdimage to switch from jenkins to the live builder ones today [11:23] jezz, this calxeda box is a beast [11:24] hehe [11:24] ogra_: awesome! [11:25] ogra_: for rebuilds i was thinking to do cunning tricks. [11:26] heh, go ahead :) [11:26] asac, 09 tests are running [11:26] dholbach: https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/phablet-tools/flash_change/+merge/177927 finally merged [11:26] rsalveti, yep, pinged didrocks for a build already :-P [11:27] haha, awesome [11:27] :-D [11:27] rsalveti, and I updated the docs in a number of places already [11:27] great [11:27] ogra_: +1 [11:30]