[00:00] cat /proc/cpuinfo [00:00] cat /proc/meminfo [00:00] speaking of bad memory i tested the ram and that's fine [00:00] sounds like you're using the nouveau graphics driver then? [00:00] AMD Phenom(tm) II X2 555 Processor, 8gb ram [00:00] ok [00:00] which one is that? [00:01] checking which one now [00:01] it's the open source nvidia one which'll be in use if you didn't install the nvidia proprietary [00:01] 304.88 [00:01] oh ok that's the official nvidia proprietary one then [00:01] it's nvidia proprietary [00:01] yeah [00:01] was that offered through additional-drivers? [00:02] yeah [00:02] if it showed any other versions, i'd be tempted to switch around and experiment [00:02] interestingly it seems like the problem occurs more frequently with sites like facebook, so i wonder if it's related to any kind of plugin [00:02] also it seems to have trouble with fullscreen youtube sometimes [00:02] on one of my monitors... not the other [00:03] mmm [00:03] sorry, i should define trouble... i meant the video is quite choppy fullscreen [00:05] probably unrelated i guess === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [00:05] actually... maybe it's compiz... [00:06] well fullscreen would try and use accelerated video rendering/decoding [00:06] ah-ha [00:06] that it certainly could be [00:06] if it leaves browser windows looking white and empty, that'd be a likely MO [00:06] damn gnome fallback for not having an alt-tab :P [00:09] i'll remove compiz and see if that works, thanks for helping diag daftykins :) [00:09] np! [00:48] fnome fallback does have alt-tab [00:49] it's compiz that doesn't - when you use it outside of unity, you bare a totally bare config with no plugins enabled [00:50] also "failure to redraw windows" is a compiz bug too [00:50] specifically one that affects the nvidia driver [00:50] is it not genuinely worth having the person not quit to keep commenting? [00:50] :) [00:51] oops s/genuinely/generally/ [00:52] well he might come back [00:53] nagios/icinga is noisy when you're reconfiguring stuff [00:54] don't say "use the downtime feature" because I'm setting it up with a new system without losing the old working system until I'm sure they're reporting the same statuses [00:56] I guess I should have turned off the notifications until I know it's set up [00:57] I only thought about that _after_ I had over 2000 emails in my gmail inbox [01:59] at least with gmail it's easy to clean up [02:04] indeed [04:31] why didn't I go to bed last night?! [04:31] gotta toddle off to work in a couple hours [04:31] I guess I'll be on the tea, hardcore [04:39] something weird happened to saucy - needed me to manually install ubuntu-system-settings to clear out dependency issues [04:42] ok, now it seems to be removing every package I've got on the system === virusuy is now known as tuviejaentanga [05:45] I think I'm gonna have to bite the bullet and reinstall [05:46] lol @ hardcore tea [05:46] yeah, coffe is for wimps [05:47] coffee* [05:47] :( [05:48] the good news is I think I got icinga running nicely [05:49] so now it's just everything else that's broken ? [05:49] yup [05:49] 28 critical services listed, 10 unknowns and 6 warnings [05:50] gotta catch 'em all ;) [05:51] just made a change which should eliminate the 10 unknowns [05:52] ergh, looks like it's just changing them to criticals [05:53] ok, nrpe hadn't restarted [06:03] hello all and happy birthday davmor2 [06:39] this looks like a nice cabinet: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Customer-Service-Demo-Reception-Free-Standing-Computer-Solution-Kiosk-/130961146980?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item1e7de48464 [07:19] diddledan: shiny [07:20] diddledan: keyboard seems worn [07:20] yeah [07:41] morning [07:41] \o [08:00] damn, the company I work for has run out of IP Addresses in one of our datacentres - we really need to rebalance things [08:00] ipv6 time :) [08:01] I keep suggesting it [08:01] well you won't be getting any more IPs from RIPE [08:01] unless you have an IPv6 transition plan (and even then you get a very small block) === msm is now known as Guest64874 [08:05] we need another /28 in each of the two datacentres we colocate in [08:06] time to start writing that transition plan then ;) [08:07] assuming you're getting them from ripe, and not just buying more addresses from the provider [08:07] shauno: that provider should be reluctant as well [08:07] I think we just lease off the datacentre which helps [08:09] I'm kinda curious how transition goes at larger sites. must be some quiet mayhem [08:09] shauno: We're dual-stack. [08:09] (everywhere except a few office machines) === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [08:26] I was more wondering whether they actually start to use it. or if "the plan" is just so they can get more v4 assignments [08:28] MartijnVdS is very silly and he knows it. [08:28] eg, for the typical multi-node web stack, you don't really need v4 on most machines. pretty much just the haproxy/nginx frontends? the application & db servers shouldn't really need it [08:30] dwatkins: On G+ you mean? :) [08:32] MartijnVdS: yeah [08:32] Good morning peeps :) [08:32] reminds me, the ubuntu installer doesn't seem to like it when you only give it a SLAAC address. slaac+v4 works, dhcpv6+v4 works, and just dhcpv6 works. but just slaac tells you autoconfiguration failed [08:32] shauno: that's a bug [08:33] shauno: have you filed it? [08:33] I haven't. I had enough things go wrong that day :/ [08:39] davmor2: Happy Birthday! [08:41] JamesTait: today is davmor2 Day, apparently [08:42] davmor2: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!! [08:53] czajkowski: Is that cert post dated 2009? [08:53] it's when I got my membership [08:53] Or is that a _very_ delayed tweet? [08:54] but the certs are new [08:54] Oh, okay :) [09:02] Good morning all, happy Friday and happy davmor2 day! :-D === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [09:04] heh [09:04] JamesTait: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfVsfOSbJY0 [09:05] MartijnVdS, davmor2's birthday celebrations? [09:05] JamesTait: likely [09:05] MartijnVdS, this is the new rick roll, isn't it? [09:05] JamesTait: it's friday! friday! [09:06] MartijnVdS, the rebeccablackroll. [09:10] * MartijnVdS plays with perlbrew a bit more [09:12] that doesn't sound healthy [09:13] shauno: it lets me play with 5.18 on an Ubuntu box without replacing /usr/bin/perl [09:13] http://perldoc.perl.org/perldelta.html :) [09:13] ah yes, I forgot you're One Of Them [09:17] shauno: nothing wrong with properly modern perl [09:17] well [09:17] characters vs bytes could be a bit more Python3-ish [09:43] hi does anyone have any tips on how to make transmission faster [09:43] I have fiber optic on virgin media [09:44] arc__: by going to preferences, and checking if the port is open [09:45] ok [09:45] and if it's not, figure out how to open it. [09:45] don't virgin restrict torrent traffic? [09:45] oh they might [09:46] (another reason to come to .nl -- ISPs here aren't allowed to do that ) [09:46] directhex: yeah, if not specifically they'll reduce overall service quality after the bdata usage peaks [09:48] I could normally do a 1.3gb in the morning it would take 30/60 mins [09:48] remember, [09:48] !piracy [09:48] piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music, and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o [09:49] yes but linux iso ? [09:49] :-D [09:50] also lindows 7 [09:50] just making sure :) [09:50] ok [09:50] good morning everyone, [09:51] does anyone here have a linux VuDuo pvr box [09:52] is that a badly typed video? [09:53] or is there a product called vuduo? [09:53] Vu+ DUO [09:54] don't know what that is [09:54] quote from box "A smart linux box" [09:54] you can watch tv on it === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away [09:56] Duo = 2 tuners [09:58] not a bad little unit [09:59] can anyone kidnap me on my sisters wedding [09:59] :0 [10:00] is your family rich and gullible? === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [10:00] although paired with a normal pc and mythtv-backend & xbmc-pvr on raspberry pi you can build a rig using one of these units: http://www.tbsdtv.com/launch/moi-dvb-s2-streaming-box.html for ~£100 for the receiver, + ~35/pi +desktop pc [10:01] yes on the rich but no on the gullible side [10:02] diddledan: my bro got the box for £129.99 a bit over but still good [10:04] also you can steam it through the home network [10:09] radio silence [10:11] Indian wedding take 2 years prep [10:11] Fact [10:12] would you say it is peak time online at the moment [10:14] peak for what? [10:14] somewhere in the world, ye [10:14] s [10:14] everyone is online in the UK [10:14] most people are at work in the UK [10:15] ha summer hols for me [10:15] arc__: if you ask a question and nobody replies, it can mean nobody knows the answer, not that they're ignoring or awak [10:15] *away [10:15] although both of those are possible [10:15] I'm at work. at home. I didn't finish up with work in time to be able to get to work at a reasonable hour [10:16] * popey is on holiday :D [10:16] lucky get [10:21] Morning all, thanks for the birthday wishes [10:22] davmor2: happy birthday [10:23] I'm having issues with saucy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5965885/ [10:23] Apparently this year I get to sell our sensible family car and buy a 2 seater mgb gt or an e-type apparently :) [10:24] diddledan: sounds like a "wait a bit" issue [10:24] davmor2: An E-Type? you made of cash? :) [10:24] mid-life crisis \o/ [10:24] mgdm: Hence the mgb gt was listed first [10:25] AlanBell: yeah, I was hoping it would magically clear up - I crossed my fingers thinking maybe it's in the autobuilder already [10:25] davmor2: Get a mazda rx-8 [10:25] or a audi a3 [10:25] diddledan: I am updating now, no issues [10:26] AlanBell: I mistakenly tried installing wine1.4 and blindly agreed to the stupid proposal of removing half of my installed packages [10:26] so I'm trying to recover by reinstalling ubuntu-desktop [10:26] arc__: What man you come back when you have some taste in cars ;) It's a mid-life crisis play I'm happy with my 407 estate thanks :) [10:27] davmor2: My family has a audi a4 estate [10:27] midlife crises require vintage cars [10:27] or bikes [10:27] I quite fancy a Jensen Interceptor, mostly based on the name [10:27] also they look quite cool [10:28] if a bike then it needs to fire once every other lamppost. none of this modern japanese poo that sounds like a bumblebee [10:28] they also stopped making them 7 years before I was born [10:28] get a DeLorean DMC-12 [10:28] diddledan: see, my problem with bikes like that is that they constantly sound like they're farting [10:28] diddledan: so it'sdifficult to take them seriously [10:29] lol [10:29] mgdm: you've not heard a proper british classic then [10:29] diddledan: probably not [10:29] tickover is something like 30 seconds between explosions [10:29] I jest, but that's the idea [10:30] hehe [10:31] mgdm, diddledan: If I had a choice it would be a BSA model 4 or an a7 bike, an E-type jaguar just cause it's the best looking car EVER!!!! or the poor mans E-type in the mgb gt or at a push a triumph stag [10:31] oh or the mallard obviously thats a bit harder to park [10:32] It's almost a shame that Jaguar wouldn't lend the James Bond producers an E-Type, so they ended up with the Aston... [10:32] I mean it's a nice car, but it's not an E-Type [10:33] I'm not sure you can class it as "lend" when you get it back scorched and dented [10:33] or outright crushed [10:33] :) [10:35] pnp4nagios makes some nice purdy graphs when combined with icinga [10:35] diddledan: Yeah but look at the ridiculous level of astin sales after goldfinger just think that could of been E-type then there would be more on the road for mid-life crisiseseseses [10:35] :D [10:35] davmor2: good point. [10:35] yeah, you have to take the long view === joshmyers is now known as bubu [10:37] diddledan, mgdm: there is this of course http://www.lyonheart.com/gallery/lyonheart-k-coupe.html [10:37] and they'd be several times the price :/ [10:37] diddledan: use graphite and something like descartes [10:37] _much_ prettier [10:37] when you finish drooling [10:38] a nice modern twist on the E-type [10:39] Oh, very nice [10:40] mgdm: just don't look at the price it's scary [10:41] it looks like a nice car [11:04] aquarius: where is good to stay in Birmingham ? [11:04] hotel wise [11:05] I don't know much about hotels in Birmingham, because, er, I've only stayed there a couple of times -- if I'm in Birmingham, I come home :) [11:05] I only stayed in one, and it was OK [11:05] but I've stayed in the Premier Inn on Broad Street a couple of New Years Eves [11:06] basic, but cheap, and close to all the Saturday night nightlife :) [11:06] I tend to find premier inns aren't objectionable [11:06] having said this, my priority there, since it was on my own dime, was: as cheap as possible, especially since I was landing into the place at about half two in the morning and leaving again at 8 :) [11:09] czajkowski: the hilton and hyatt hotels are fairly good /me slopes off after recommending the two most expensive hotel in Birminghamshire [11:09] need to be near http://hackference.co.uk/location [11:11] czajkowski: type this "hotels near floodgate street birmingham" into google and pick one :) [11:11] czajkowski: have you tried looking at the map at booking.com? Their reviews tend to be accurate as well [11:13] aye will do just said I'd ask in case anyone had any recommendations [11:13] davmor2: I'm invading :) [11:13] davmor2: were you down here this week [11:13] met jpugh yesterday [11:13] he looked very confused seeing me in canonical :) [11:14] czajkowski: No it's part of the phone sprint season I think, I can image :) [11:14] czajkowski: how are you finding 10Gen? [11:15] mgdm: loving it :) [11:15] was out for dinner with the canonical girls last night so still friendly with everyone :) [11:15] being kept busy as well [11:15] hopig to get to more events to meet people [11:16] current issue is reivewing all the proposals for sponsorship [11:16] which is nice to read but so many [11:16] and a lot assume if you sposor before you'll do again [11:16] wich we do [11:16] but nice to share it around [11:16] czajkowski, I think the Old Crown does rooms, and that's a good pub and right near the venue [11:16] meeting new types of developers and working closly with sales which is very new t me [11:16] aquarius: excellent [11:16] shall sta you for a pint if you're about :) [11:17] the hackference chap was trying to convince me to drop by :) [11:17] but Niamh's here that weekend, so it's not likely. [11:17] nods [11:17] so no pints :( [11:17] wanted to see some of these pubs you tweet about [11:18] ha! Those pubs are in Stourbridge, not Birmingham [11:18] bah [11:18] aquarius: for when you don't want to be recognised? ;) [11:18] if you're out for beers in Brum, then the Old Crown's not bad, which is near where hackference is; in the centre, I like the Wellington, the Post Office Vaults, the Brewdog place, the Old Joint Stock. [11:23] hotels that charge for wifi suck donkey balls [11:23] czajkowski: the cheaper the hotel, the free-er the wifi, in my experience [11:24] indeed [11:25] czajkowski: you need to get a train to sandwell and Dudley and go to the pie factory :) [11:30] mmmm pie [11:30] 'lo bob [11:30] shauno: more import desperate dan cow pie [11:35] not sure I'd want to see them making desperate dan pies [11:36] I'm not volunteering to find out how they're made [11:37] I think seeing them turn cows into circles would ruin the magic. I'm quite happy to leave the wizard behind the curtain on that one [11:38] shauno: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_PX1CUVJISc0/TIyqHVkO_II/AAAAAAAAFLU/Mg4OvW8b2jI/s400/Desperate+Dan+4lb+pie.jpg [11:39] probably easier to start with a spherical cow [11:39] davmor2: Looks better than the Pie Factory's version [11:40] bigcalm: that is a shot in the pie factory of a pir factory DD cow pie :) [11:40] Oh, have they changed the horns? [11:41] bigcalm: no idea it's just he first image that appeared on a google search [11:44] bigcalm: We'll have to go there again to compare the image, when you on honeymoon that'll be a good week to go I'm sure :D I'm only thinking of your diet ;) [11:45] :P [11:45] davmor2: 28th October -> [11:47] bigcalm: not sure I can wait that long :D === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:05] I guys :)) [13:05] How are you? [13:05] *P.S. Do you have new suggestions xD? === mibofra_cell is now known as mibofra_smart === mibofra_smart is now known as mibofra_cell [13:13] o_O [13:14] mibofra_cell: can you be a little clearer in what you want? [13:14] ask! [13:14] !ask [13:14] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [13:14] !ping [13:14] pong! [13:14] !ding [13:14] dong [13:15] !woof [13:15] bah, lubotu3 sucks [13:15] !omgitsfridayandpeoplehavegonemad [13:15] MooDoo: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [13:16] what does the POSIX manual for the utilities for? [13:16] Sorry xD yesterday someone has tried to help me with a long question I can't report (on smartphone) 'cos too long too right xD [13:16] friday ftw [13:16] Anyway did someone upgrade mysql today? [13:17] this is a global channel mibofra_cell upgrade Mysql where? On my server? On yours? [13:18] On a server, everything can run mysql [13:18] I think you need to be a little clearer, you just asked if someone upgraded mysql today...no i didn't did you? [13:18] I installed two mysql servers today [13:23] I've upgrated to ver 13.04.2 of the package mysql-server-5.5 and I couldn't start mysql from init script alias upstart job, the error log /var/log/mysql/error.log says that mysqld has been tried to start by init script with too much arguments (one of the too much ones is start for the log). So I've donwgraded to ver 13.04.1 version all mysql packages [13:24] diddledan did you experienced something like this? [13:26] nope, I'm not sure what you mean by "start for the log" [13:27] mysql is started with `service mysql start` or even more succinctly just `start mysql` [13:29] just to clarify, 12.04 or 13.04? [13:31] I don't remember now the words the log used but anyway it notified me the arguments was extra; after the error was showen first in the output of apt-get I've tried manually to start mysql with both commands but with the same results [13:32] 13.10 xD (upgraded from 13.04 months ago), mysql packages are only in the 13.04 repo no [13:32] *now [13:32] **the moust recent ones [13:34] someone tell me why aether and miasma .ec2.bangdynamics.com aren't responding to ping but otherwise are fine - they're hosted on amazon ec2 and the security group lists the world as being able to ping them (I believe - paste coming) [13:34] PERMISSION ******************** default ALLOWS icmp 0 -1 FROM CIDR 0.0.0.0/0 ingress [13:35] I hope that didn't screw everyone up too much [13:35] it's only one line, hence why I pasted it here instead of paste.ubuntu.com [13:36] no hacking, please [13:37] :( [13:37] not all servers/firewalls allow ping. [13:38] Lol someone notified my error in mailing list xD (Italian one) [13:38] In this moment... [13:38] ...I'm gonna help him xD [13:48] dwatkins: they were hapilly responding to ping until pretty much dead on 1400 [13:50] diddledan: yeah, I have no idea if Amazon change this sort of setting, but it does suggest a problem. [14:05] mibofra_cell: what's the exact version of the mysql package you have ? [14:06] mibofra_cell: I think you're looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.5/+bug/1210383 seems you've grabbed a package from -proposed and got bitten [14:07] Launchpad bug 1210380 in mysql-5.5 (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1210383 package mysql-server-5.5 5.5.32-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Confirmed] [14:16] Yes I think it's my bug [14:17] But it's expanded after installation process too === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk [14:29] yeah, that's mentioned too. the package is a proposed update that failed verification. it's not in the regular repos for a reason === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g [15:21] so amazon came back online again [15:21] no changes made by me from start to finish [15:21] just random icmp black hole [15:22] 0o [15:22] keeping you on your toes [15:23] went off at 1300Z and came back at 1445Z [15:24] makes a nice fat block of downtime appear in my graphs [15:27] hey folks, woke up this morning, and my mouse pointer is totally useless, can't click on anything, if I try and run anything that grabs the mouse like xwininfo, it says that it's unable to grab the pointer, so I guess something has grabbed my pointer, suggestions? [15:28] reboot? [15:28] that's not true Linux advice! ;) [15:29] well, restart lightdm then :P [15:29] was hoping to avoid that, this happens semi regularly [15:29] amiga + synergy screweyness? [15:30] speaking of synergy. I've just received an email from them [15:42] gah this is so frustrating, I have messages and I can't read them because of this bug :@ [15:43] alt-tab not helping? [15:43] nope, doesn't work, it appears to be blocked [15:44] I think it might have been skype that caused it, I killed skype and my functionality came back for a matter of seconds before locking again [15:44] won't reconnecting a peripheral force that kind of stuff into sorting itself out? [15:45] nope tried disconnecting and reconnecting the mouse, no dice. [15:45] there's a key, XF86Ungrab that's supposed to force whatever it is to let go, but that doesn't work either. [15:48] woo, I got it back [15:48] dropped to a tty after killing skype, came back, and it seems to have released [15:48] stupid skype. [15:50] ;) [15:51] your setup always has funky quirks ^_^ [15:51] yup :( [15:51] right, quick nip to the coffee shop 20 seconds from my front door \o/ [15:51] hoping all the quirks will disappear when I go ATI and one big screen [15:51] D:! [15:51] daftykins: that is, software wise [15:51] i thought ATI drivers seemed to be even further hellish [15:51] physically 4 screens :) [15:51] nvidia purposefully bricks multimonitor support to try and sell quadro cards [15:56] ati eyefinity ftw [15:56] although they need to hurry up and create a wayland/mir driver [15:56] hehe [15:56] my system runs far too hot on the opensource drivers [15:57] yea, the open drivers are noisey as all hell too [15:58] A comparison of coffee shops [15:59] 1) Costa - "no sorry you have to have a lid, health and safety" [15:59] 2) Woodies (a local one) - sure no problem [15:59] ^_^ [16:00] 3) weatherspoons - are you a cheapo ? [16:00] XD [16:00] would they really charge you less not to have one? :> [16:00] not a chance. [16:00] we don't have them over here [16:01] wow, most places i have been in the uk, have had one. [16:01] Guernsey isn't the UK :) [16:02] ah, that explains that then :) [16:02] *nods* [16:02] :) [16:02] some of our English vibe facts of late are growing though [16:02] such as having two Costa coffee branches [16:03] two big supermarkets are now Waitrose owned [16:03] or too many tesco's. [16:03] still haven't got a tesco :) [16:03] i flew over guernsey yesterday [16:03] i used to like their sandwich selection at Uni time [16:03] we have three now. [16:03] popey: ooh, did you get a nice view of our wee triangular home? [16:04] heh, didnt spot that [16:04] ^_^ [16:04] there've been so many cruise ships in this summer [16:05] high street gets full of aimless tourists in bouts ;) [16:05] all the French seem to like taking pics of the Victor Hugo's Boulangerie pastry/cake/etc shop [16:06] wasnt a bad flight really [16:06] given it's easyjet [16:06] :D [16:06] surly staff as usual [16:07]