[00:00] <Therapy> Have not tried different ports but I use one on the motherboard anyway; could try another one. Okay, I'll be right back, gonna run the memtest.
[00:01] <s0u][ight> hello, i'm using ubuntu 13.04, webcam works fine in apps like cheese, but google-chrome can't access it (webrtc examples and flash websites), is there a way to debug it?
[00:03] <daftykins> s0u][ight: i wonder if you need to right click on the flash player and go to settings to enable it to use your devices
[00:03] <s0u][ight> daftykins: it's not a flash issue, it doesn't work on webrtc examples as well
[00:04] <daftykins> i'm not even familiar with that
[00:04] <daftykins> fair enough - that's my only idea out :)
[00:04] <s0u][ight> daftykins: thanks anyway
[00:05] <daftykins> s0u][ight: np :)
[00:17] <DataNully> nerdshack (aka lavabit), pop3/smtp email provider, was shutdown today by the NSA
[00:29] <GH0> Hello, I seem to have run into an issue with two files not appearing in KDE's menu, however, when attempting to rescan and re-add these, I get the following errors.
[00:29] <GH0> kbuildsycoca4(17434) KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry Keywords in "/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon).
[00:29] <GH0> kbuildsycoca4(17434) KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry Categories in "/usr/share/applications/kde4/k4dirstat.desktop" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon)
[00:29] <GH0>  However, I noticed that not all files in the folder have a trailing semicolon, so I was wondering if anyone could either paste their files listed in that folder, or if they could show me a way to replace those files through a reinstall or something? Purge and aptitude reinstall does not resolve the problem.
[00:30] <GH0> To be clear, I am rescanning with this "kbuildsycoca4 -noincremental"
[00:35] <Therapy> uhhh what was his name... Hi again, I was here about 30 mins ago requesting some help with ubuntu installation; i've tried to install both, 12.04 and 13.04 versions via usb device, it works fine on language selection screen and till next screen where it offers to install the system, try it out or run memory test. If I try to run it without installation or install it, in either case it starts doing some stuff (can't read, the text changes way too fast) for a f
[00:35] <Therapy> leaving me with a black screen as if it's turned on but not getting any signal from pc
[00:36] <Therapy> I was told to try again but via another usb port (didnt help) and to run memory test; it says everything is fine.
[00:36] <Therapy> Any idea what to do now?
[00:39] <samuel_> Hola
[00:41] <Therapy> :(
[00:48] <daftykins> Therapy: o/
[00:48] <daftykins> sorry was in a game
[00:49] <daftykins> Therapy: hrmm sounds like a graphics issue potentially, do you know what graphics card is in there?
[00:52] <Therapy> daftykins np. Well, if you're asking about graphic card in general, then Nvidia GeForce 9600 GT; if you're asking about something else I'm afraid I'll need to google that, lol.
[00:53] <wushu> i am trying to install 13.04 desktop w FDE, but getting missing operating system when trying to boot. installed from usb, and checked off full disk encryption. does anyone know what i am doing wrong?
[00:54] <elderx> wushu: are you sure you are trying to boot from correct drive ?
[00:55] <elderx> wushu: do you have more than 1 hdd/ssd installed ?
[00:55] <wushu> 100% sure as it is the only drive connected to the motherboard. removed the live ubuntu usb drive when booting up after installing.
[00:56] <daftykins> Therapy: nah that'll be the one - hrmmph, were you getting this with both ubuntu versions you've tried?
[00:56] <failmaster> wushu, are you sure nothing went wrong on the bootloader installation step?
[00:56] <k0d3g3ar> hello world
[00:58] <Therapy> daftykins ye, exactly the same with both versions
[00:59] <daftykins> !nomodeset | Therapy
[00:59] <daftykins> Therapy: give that one a whirl ^
[00:59] <Therapy> *reading*
[00:59] <wushu> failmaster: i installed from the gui, and i do not think there were anywhere i could choose where to install the bootloader.
[01:01] <Therapy> daftykins; ubottu thanks, gonna try it out right now
[01:02] <elderx> wushu: multiple partitions or everything on one ?
[01:03] <perre`vl>  g'night
[01:03] <perre`vl> someone could help me out with some raid 1 questions ?
[01:04] <wushu> gparted says there are three: /dev/sda1 (fat32), /dev/sda2 (ext2) and /dev/sda3 (crypt-luks)
[01:04] <wushu> elderx: i did not attempt to install with any additional or custom partitions
[01:05] <elderx> wushu: i had once a problem when ubuntu installed grun on my usb stick and not on hdd
[01:05] <elderx> grub*
[01:10] <powhatan-dan> I believe the first two would be your drives wushu
[01:11] <powhatan-dan> Not sure what the third one is
[01:11] <powhatan-dan> What is the available space on the three recognized?
[01:12] <wushu> sda1 190MiB, sda2 244Mib, sda3 465GiB
[01:12] <Therapy> K SO LIEK, it worked out! Thanks for the help daftykins and... uh, the other guy.
[01:12] <Therapy> not gonna continiue now tho; sleep time. Thanks for the help and GN!
[01:12] <powhatan-dan> Ok
[01:13] <powhatan-dan> So sda3 is your main drive
[01:13] <wushu> yup
[01:13] <powhatan-dan> Are your drives SCSI?
[01:14] <failmaster> i would go to chroot and see where is it exactly
[01:14] <powhatan-dan> You are doing raid 1 correct?
[01:14] <wushu> not sure to be honest, but i am pretty sure sda1,2 and 3 are partitions on the same drive. not any raid involved
[01:14] <chrs_> has anyone got exfat filesystem support in chrubuntu arm?
[01:14] <failmaster> wushu, lvm?
[01:15] <powhatan-dan> Yes it appears that way
[01:15] <wushu> what is lvm?
[01:15] <powhatan-dan> I wasn't sure if raid #1 is what you were trying to accomplish
[01:15] <powhatan-dan> Are you just looking to install?
[01:16] <wushu> yup with full disk encryption
[01:16] <wushu> plain and simple
[01:16] <failmaster> wushu, during setup over gui installer i suspect it could make u to use lvm somehow, in that case the process of mounting i described will include additional steps
[01:16] <wushu> only got one drive connected to the motherboard and one usb drive with live ubuntu
[01:16] <failmaster> !lvm
[01:16] <failmaster> nooo
[01:17] <powhatan-dan> He only has one drive so I'm pretty sure he's not trying raid #1
[01:17] <anotherjoe> anyone know how to disable 3d effects from an ssh shell
[01:17] <wushu> powhatan-dan: correct
[01:17] <failmaster> powhatan-dan, such setups howtos often include lvm due to the option of resizing encrypted partitions
[01:18] <wushu> so guys, what is lvm? raid simulation of some sort?
[01:18] <failmaster> so in order to cover all possible troubleshoot steps it would be good to know if it's true for this case
[01:18] <powhatan-dan> Logical Volume Management
[01:18] <wushu> right, will look that up thx
[01:19] <failmaster> i would go through classy debian installer for setting up such configuration (alternate cd or server)
[01:19] <failmaster> and it's better to choose 12.04 against 13.04
[01:19] <failmaster> in that case
[01:20] <powhatan-dan> I'm sorry for stepping in failmaster I wasnt sure if someone was helping him
[01:20] <wushu> the thing is that this seems a bit odd to me as i am only trying to install the latest ubuntu desktop on a single hdd without any fancyness
[01:20] <failmaster> powhatan-dan, it doesn't work like that, everybody is involved, come on, it's a party! :D
[01:21] <wushu> the more the merrier i guess :D
[01:21] <powhatan-dan> I would select sda3 and move forward with the install
[01:21] <failmaster> wushu, latest and stable are somewhat different on practice
[01:21] <wushu> 13.04 should be stable, right?
[01:22] <failmaster> wushu, i would choose 12.04 alternate or server
[01:22] <powhatan-dan> That's what I use but it's a development version and doesn't have long term support
[01:22] <powhatan-dan> Can't wait for a stable saucy salamander
[01:22] <failmaster> i've just met an issue on 13.04 during set up with key file authorization for /
[01:23] <wushu> yeah, the only reason i went for 13.04 was the gui support for FDE. i guess i will just go with 12.04 like you said failmaster
[01:23] <failmaster> so imho it's clear that 12.04 is preferable
[01:24] <failmaster> gui implementation of luks setup appeared later, so according to my logical conclusions classy setup would be more stable
[01:25] <failmaster> besides that you won't forget about things because every step to set it up is described and understandable
[01:25] <failmaster> e.g. the chance i will forget where is my bootloader is lower
[01:26] <failmaster> but that's just me
[01:26] <failmaster> maybe it's all okay with gui too
[01:28] <wushu> alright thanks for the help. will drop by here again if i cant get it to work. you guys are great!
[01:28] <failmaster> wushu, you're welcome
[01:29] <powhatan-dan> Sweet
[01:29] <powhatan-dan> Take care wushu
[01:31] <Guest68418> does Ubuntu Touch have "emergency" remote access to all users who use the OS, just like Google does with Android and Apply with iOS?
[01:31] <Guest68418> Apple*
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> !touch | Guest68418
[01:33] <failmaster> Guest66719, define "emergency access"
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch
[01:33] <goddard> it will really help
[01:33] <goddard> can some one help me with this issue http://askubuntu.com/questions/327249/2-amd-7950s-do-not-work-in-crossfire-mode?noredirect=1#comment420184_327249
[01:34] <Guest68418> meaning Ubuntu/Canonical can access your smartphone anytime they deem something as an "emergency"
[01:34] <Guest68418> for "security purposes"
[01:34] <failmaster> no?
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> take it to the correct channel
[01:36] <larzconwell> So I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a uefi system, so I'm following along https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Installing_Ubuntu_in_EFI_mode, but I can't seem to get the liveusb to boot.
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> larzconwell, Best support is at the UF, here is a thread. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[01:38] <larzconwell> wilee-nilee: Okay I'll check it out thank you.
[01:38] <tones> which are better ubunutuforums or askubuntu?
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> tones, There is no better that is an opinion, bit have their merits.
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> both
[01:39] <tones> which one do you post the most to?
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> tones, Neither, however under 3 diffrent nicks I have about 12, 000 or so post at the UF, I retired my last account.
[01:40] <tones> why did you retire?
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> the UF has the most online users probably a faster response depending ion the issue
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> tones, To much drama.
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> in my opinion.
[01:41] <tones> less drama here
[01:44] <pipoloco> I have a directory set with w permission for the group, then I have a user in that group, but when I log with that user, I get permission denied when trying to create a subdirectory in that directory:
[01:45] <pipoloco> rwxrwxr-x  2 www-data www-data 4096 Apr  3 21:29 themes
[01:45] <pipoloco> ubuntu : www-data adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev netdev admin
[01:45] <jrib> pipoloco: use pastebin, show series of commands that demonstrates what you just described
[01:45] <pipoloco> So ubuntu user belongs to www-data, which has w permissions over the "themes" directory, yet I get permission denied when trying to create a subdirectory
[01:47] <pipoloco> ok , there you are: http://pastebin.com/RrxiHCgX
[01:47] <jrib> pipoloco: ls -ld themes
[01:49] <jesusemelendezm> hi guys a quick question/..
[01:49] <pipoloco> jrib: http://pastebin.com/9ustBYXp
[01:50] <jrib> pipoloco: ls -ld themes
[01:51] <pipoloco> jrib: sorry :) there you are : drwxrwxr-x 2 www-data www-data 4096 Apr  3 21:29 themes/
[01:51] <jrib> pipoloco: ls -ld / /var /var/www /var/www/drupal /var/www/drupal/sites /var/www/drupal/sites/all
[01:51] <jesusemelendezm> hi pepper_chico
[01:52] <pepper_chico> jesusemelendezm hi
[01:52] <jrib> pepper_chico: output of « mount »
[01:52] <pipoloco> jrib: http://pastebin.com/t6Ni2HTd
[01:52] <jesusemelendezm> chico? Spanish ?
[01:53] <arooni-mobile__> can someone help me getting DNS resolution fixed?  i'm seeing "/etc/network/interfaces:11: misplaced option"  on line: dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4   ubuntu 12.04 lts server
[01:55] <pepper_chico> jesusemelendezm, brazilian
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> !es
[01:55] <somsip> arooni-mobile__: maybe best if you paste the whole thing. It could be in the wrong section
[01:55] <pepper_chico> we have chicos too, but not exactly the same spanish chico, here chico is surname for francisco
[01:55] <pipoloco> jrib: ???
[01:56] <pepper_chico> ops, not surname, nickname
[01:56] <jrib> pepper_chico: output of « mount »
[01:56] <jesusemelendezm> got it pepper
[01:56] <jesusemelendezm> what are you exploring today?
[01:56] <joeb3_> arooni-mobile, use to seperate lines.  One for each dns server
[01:57] <joeb3_> arooni-mobile, two
[01:57] <pepper_chico> the internet =)
[01:59] <hdhzero> Hi, people. Synaptic can generate a script to download packages on another machine. How can I do a similar operation from the command line (only using apt)?
[02:00] <jrib> hdhzero: search man apt-get for "print-uri"
[02:00] <hdhzero> jrib: thanks =]
[02:01] <aleksey2013> !ru
[02:07] <Guest29650> what is the alternate command of ls in win32?
[02:07] <jpds> Guest29650: dir ?
[02:07] <Guest29650> oh
[02:07] <Guest29650> thx
[02:09] <jesusemelendezm> disconnect
[02:10] <Guest29650> i got a question
[02:10] <Guest29650> the "-a" option of ls command indicates
[02:10] <Guest29650> Select one:
[02:10] <Guest29650> a. List both the files in parent and current directory
[02:10] <Guest29650> b. List files contain binary code only
[02:10] <Guest29650> c. List audio files only
[02:10] <Guest29650> d. List i-node files only
[02:10] <FloodBot1> Guest29650: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:10] <xmetal> i know this probably isn't the channel, but anyone here use amazon dvds before (blank media) ?
[02:10] <jrib> Guest29650: do not do that here.
[02:11] <Guest29650> sorry
[02:11] <Guest29650> if u could just plz tell me the answer to this one
[02:11] <Guest29650> i wont ask anymore
[02:11] <Guest29650> plz
[02:11] <jrib> Guest29650: if you want some help with your homework, check the man page for ls.  Type « man ls », then read about -a.  You can search with /-a<enter>
[02:11] <Guest29650> i will
[02:11] <Guest29650> but could u just tell me d answer
[02:11] <Guest29650> i will research it all
[02:11] <jrib> Guest29650: no
[02:12] <Guest29650> just need a answer quickly
[02:12] <Guest29650> pl
[02:12] <Guest29650> z
[02:12] <lkthomas> LOL
[02:12] <jrib> Guest29650: this isn't a homework help channel and it just hurts you to tell you the answer.  Do what I said and you will learn the answer onyour own!
[02:12] <lkthomas> so no body interested buying Ubuntu edge ?
[02:12] <jrib> !edge | lkthomas
[02:12] <Guest29650> comeon man
[02:12] <lkthomas> okie
[02:12] <Guest29650> i just need answer for 1 QUESTION
[02:13] <Guest29650> thats all im askin
[02:13] <Guest29650> plz
[02:13] <jrib> Guest29650: this channel is for ubuntu support, please stop
[02:13] <lkthomas> Guest29650: what question
[02:13] <somsip> lkthomas: it's a multi-choice homework question he can easily find himself
[02:13] <lkthomas> like what
[02:14] <lkthomas> -a on ls ?
[02:14] <lkthomas> Guest29650: none of above :P
[02:14] <lkthomas> Guest29650: I am trying make your homework fail, just so you know it
[02:15] <Guest29650> somsip i have 20 questions here im doin 19 im just askin for 1
[02:15] <Guest29650> its not so much to ask for
[02:15] <lkthomas> Guest29650: why don't you check ls source code ?
[02:16] <somsip> !ot | Guest29650
[02:16] <lkthomas> I could only found solaris ls source code:
[02:16] <lkthomas> LOL
[02:17] <Guest68418> that guest was just asking for help
[02:17] <somsip> !ot | Guest68418
[02:17] <arooni-mobile__> i just upgraded ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04 server edition... but now my DNS resolution is FUbar'd.  here is my /etc/network/interfaces file:  https://gist.github.com/arooni/6190592 ... but i still see nothing in /etc/resolv.conf  and 'ping yahoo.com' results in an error
[02:17] <Guest68418> somsip stop being an asshole
[02:17] <jrib> Guest68418: let's get back to support and please keep the language rated G
[02:18] <somsip> Guest68418: please keep your language polite and maybe check the !guidelines
[02:18] <counterglitch> HOLLER
[02:18] <lkthomas> Guest68418 said he don't care if he get kick
[02:18] <joeb3_> arooni-mobile, seperate the dns lines.  One for each server.
[02:19] <somsip> arooni-mobile__: not sure if whitespace make a different in interface files, but in mine dns-servers is indented under iface, and someone else suggested you try separate lnes.
[02:19] <Guest68418> lkthomas, what if he said he doesn't care if he gets shot? and you didn't give him the answer about the Ubuntu commands
[02:19] <jrib> !ot | Guest68418
[02:19] <arooni-mobile__> somsip, fixed it;  networking restart was complaining about a bad symlink'd file
[02:19] <arooni-mobile__> fixed that and that fixed it
[02:19] <lkthomas> LOL
[02:19] <lkthomas> well
[02:20] <somsip> arooni-mobile__: k. So trwo servers on one like is ok. Good to know
[02:20] <roots47> Hey all, I'm looking to destroy my windows 7 install and replace it with the latest version of ubuntu.  Is there some way to accomplish this without worrying about downloading and burning a disk?
[02:21] <Snuffelz> roots47: create a usb stick installer with the unetbootin tool. The partition editor in the installer will definitely wipe out windows 7 for you.
[02:22] <Snuffelz> root47: be warned though it will wipe out all data on that usb flash drive
[02:27] <espatula> hi, i have a task in my office, they want me to install ubuntu or ubuntu server; we are storing images so we can access them through ftp and use tools to restore OS's
[02:27] <daftykins> if you know/want to learn command line you could go the server route, or if you prefer graphical methods, go desktop
[02:27] <espatula> so whats better just get ubuntu and install some filezilla or use ubuntu server and configure as it
[02:28] <espatula> i know some command line but never really use server editions
[02:29] <Guest68418> espatula, i'd use Ubuntu Desktop since it is images, it makes life easier when you want to actually see what the images are
[02:29] <daftykins> espatula: hrmm, guess it depends how much time you want to put in then
[02:29] <espatula> and sure as hell dont know how to configure it
[02:29] <daftykins> Guest68418: i think he means ISOs
[02:29] <Guest68418> oh
[02:29] <espatula> no, there operating systems
[02:29] <espatula> yup isos
[02:29] <espatula> sorry
[02:29] <daftykins> ^_^
[02:30] <daftykins> espatula: well, after the server install 'tasksel' would run and ask what roles you want the system to fulfill, should be pretty easy
[02:30] <espatula> in the area i work i have enough spare time to learn
[02:30] <espatula> so for time its good
[02:31] <bo0t_versus_one> dime a ver espatula
[02:31] <Guest68418> espatula, when do you need to get it done?
[02:31] <espatula> si
[02:32] <bo0t_versus_one> de donde eres bros
[02:32] <espatula> well, at least the instalation tomorrow and the ftp service as well
[02:32] <espatula> del defectuoso
[02:32] <espatula> tu?
[02:32] <bo0t_versus_one> do
[02:33] <Guest68418> well, for you it might be easier to use the Desktop first since you need it by tomorrow and just learn Ubuntu  Server commands in your spare time
[02:33] <bo0t_versus_one> es raro encontrar alguien de habla hispana
[02:34] <Guest68418> in the future just switch to server
[02:34] <espatula> ps hace tiempo no ando por aqui y casi siempre vengo con dudas jajajaja, estoy intentando convertir mi oficina a linux
[02:34] <bo0t_versus_one> entiendo
[02:34] <bo0t_versus_one> si yo igual
[02:34] <bo0t_versus_one> he estado tratando de ver como ocultar el host por este medio
[02:38] <espatula> well i think thats what i have to do
[02:43] <roots47> Which USB creator should I use to burn the ubuntu image to USB?
[02:44] <daftykins> well i definitely hope there's no burning involved
[02:44] <daftykins> try the universal usb installer @ pendrivelinux.com
[02:44] <roots47> daftykins: Lol, burning... sorry, it's been a long day
[02:46] <daftykins> roots47: np :D
[02:46] <daftykins> roots47: "no USB devices were harmed in the making of this Linux install" will need to go on this system
[02:46] <roots47> lmao
[02:47] <espatula> lol
[02:48] <roots47> daftykins: what does "amd64" mean?
[02:49] <roots47> does this just mean 64 bit?
[02:49] <espatula> yes
[02:50] <powhatan-dan> amd is the manufacturer
[02:50] <roots47> Hmm it's saying to select my .iso file... but it doesn't seem to detect the file in the directory?
[02:51] <powhatan-dan> do you have all files selected for file types?
[02:52] <clj_newb_2345> Is there a way to (1) install only ubuntu (i.e. no OSX installation) and (2) yet don't have a stupid 20-second wait on every bootup as the open firmware searches for  a blesed partition (this is for a macbook pro)
[02:52] <SecretFire> how many litecoins per day with 72 GH s
[02:52] <SecretFire> ?
[02:54] <roots47> powhatan-dan: Yes, it turns out I selected "Xubuntu 13.04" instead of "Ubuntu 13.04" whoops
[02:55] <daftykins> clj_newb_2345: keeping OS X for firmware updates is wise
[02:55] <clj_newb_2345> daftykins why do I need firmware updates?
[02:55] <daftykins> to fix things...
[02:55] <powhatan-dan> you still have time to change your mind
[02:56] <clj_newb_2345> err, how often is something broken in the firmware?
[02:56] <daftykins> ;)
[02:56] <clj_newb_2345> I don't need any of the advanced features
[02:57] <powhatan-dan> xubuntu 13.04 will have to be booted from USB
[02:57] <powhatan-dan> regular ubuntu 13.04 will fit on a disc
[02:58] <syn-ack> They should both be able to fit on a CD, muchless a DVD
[02:58] <powhatan-dan> http://xubuntu.org/news/category/faq/
[02:59] <powhatan-dan> http://xubuntu.org/news/booting-the-xubuntu-usb-image-from-a-cd/
[02:59] <roots47> Hey all.  Is there some way to hack around viewing, and sort of working with adobe photoshop PSDs in linux?  I currently pay for creative cloud on windows, but don't want to have to switch computers any time I need to do some basic work with the files.
[03:00] <powhatan-dan> dual boot and still have widows/mac/photoshop
[03:00] <powhatan-dan> or use gimp
[03:00] <powhatan-dan> and inkscape
[03:00] <roots47> powhatan: Is it easy to go from straight linux, to windows 7 dual boot?
[03:00] <roots47> powhatan-dan: Do gimp and inkscape open psds?
[03:00] <powhatan-dan> Yes
[03:01] <powhatan-dan> No
[03:01] <jrib> roots47: probably works ok in a vm
[03:01] <powhatan-dan> not too bad
[03:01] <roots47> jrib: Ok, I figured that was probably the only solution
[03:01] <roots47> thanks
[03:01] <powhatan-dan> Are you using windows?
[03:01] <jrib> !appdb | roots47
[03:01] <jrib> roots47: you can check status with wine too
[03:01] <fnordling> Hello - I am having fan control issues, prolly from GPU. Is proprietary AMD Catalyst driver worth installing?
[03:01] <powhatan-dan> I ran ubuntu in vmware on my mac at work and it was pretty slow
[03:01] <roots47> powhatan-dan: i have a very fast system
[03:02] <powhatan-dan> windows?
[03:02] <roots47> powhatan-dan: and really, the processing would be happening on the remote box
[03:02] <daftykins> fnordling: if it won't spin up the fan and overheats, it's definitely worth a go
[03:02] <roots47> powhatan-dan: at the moment, yes
[03:02] <powhatan-dan> ok
[03:02] <roots47> powhatan-dan: i'm switching to ubuntu
[03:02] <roots47> powhatan-dan: doing a full over-write for the time being
[03:02] <powhatan-dan> I think you could use wubi
[03:03] <powhatan-dan> wubi will allow you to run ubuntu like a program within windows
[03:03] <fnordling> daftykins: my problem is fan running too much now
[03:03] <daftykins> oh dear tux, never recommend wubi D:
[03:03] <powhatan-dan> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
[03:03] <powhatan-dan> sorry
[03:03] <daftykins> fnordling: oh yeah, should help that too
[03:04] <powhatan-dan> I was trying to think a decent solution for him to keep his adobe suite
[03:04] <powhatan-dan> I recommend dual boot personally
[03:04] <fnordling> daftykins: 'k thanks. give it a go then
[03:04] <roots47> I appreciate it, but I think I'll probably try the VM solution for graphics and see if that works fast enough
[03:04] <roots47> powhatan-dan: if that doesn't work, then dual boot might be the best solution
[03:04] <powhatan-dan> Absolutely that's a decent solution
[03:05] <powhatan-dan> Just make sure you watch the performance
[03:05] <powhatan-dan> Nothing worse than lag when designing
[03:05] <xmetal> personally i rather dualboot then setup "Linux in WIndows" (that doesn't mean VMware)
[03:05] <roots47> powhatan-dan: that's the only thing I'm worried about... luckily I'm more involved with code than with actual designing
[03:05] <roots47> powhatan-dan: I basically just view the designs for dimensions, etc
[03:05] <xmetal> still if i like the distro enough... dualboot is what i'd do
[03:05] <powhatan-dan> Correct i'm with xmetal all the way
[03:05] <daftykins> roots47: i think virtualising Windows on top would be more appropriate for you, no painful rebooting that way
[03:05] <powhatan-dan> If your a code guy then you should be linux/ubuntu all the way
[03:06] <powhatan-dan> as your primary system
[03:06] <roots47> daftykins: exactly
[03:06] <roots47> I'm at a point now where windows just seems to be slowing me down
[03:06] <Guest95632> linux ftw
[03:06] <powhatan-dan> btw geany is a nice program for an IDE
[03:07] <roots47> powhatan-dan: thanks, I'll check it out
[03:07] <powhatan-dan> I was able to easily install notepad++ through wine which was also great for writing code
[03:07] <daftykins> roots47: definitely get your Linux on there, then virtualbox it up :)
[03:08] <powhatan-dan> Linux should be your primary setup
[03:08] <ESphynx> Hey how about trying out the Ecere IDE and giving me some feedback? :)
[03:08] <powhatan-dan> No problem
[03:08] <roots47> powhatan-dan: Yeah I'm looking forward to seeing how much more productive I can be
[03:08] <xmetal> with some exceptions, i use many of the same programs in both os's (no amtter what 'nix distro) .. Libree office, firefox, and thunderbird just to name 3
[03:08] <Ghjnut> If I have an external hard drive with an NTFS partition, what permissions do I need to change so I can access it from a Win7 rig
[03:08] <xmetal> oops @ my spelling
[03:08] <powhatan-dan> sudo apt-get ecere
[03:08] <xmetal> VLC is another
[03:08] <ESphynx> powhatan-dan: sudo apt-get install ecere-sdk
[03:09] <daftykins> Ghjnut: you'll need your Windows user to have rights on it - but it should just handle it fine
[03:09] <powhatan-dan> ok
[03:09] <Ghjnut> For some reason I'm getting permission issues when i plug it into the windows machine
[03:09] <ESphynx> powhatan-dan: I'm working on a pre-release right now and there will be another iteration before the one that goes in Saucy Salamander hopefuilly :)
[03:10] <powhatan-dan> Can't wait for a stable saucy salamander
[03:11] <Ghjnut> daftykins: Is there a way I can get rid of permissions?
[03:11] <powhatan-dan> ESphynx: I like IDE's that highlights code in blocks or represents them in the lines to the left of the code
[03:11] <daftykins> not really no :(
[03:11] <xmetal> love when windows throws the "Administrator does not administrator permissons" errors
[03:11] <Ghjnut> Well, a+rw for windows
[03:11] <daftykins> Ghjnut: they exist to drive us insane
[03:11] <xmetal> lol
[03:12] <ESphynx> powhatan-dan: code in blocks?  like being able to highlight portions on the left side without portions of the right side?
[03:13] <powhatan-dan> more of a readability issue for me
[03:13] <powhatan-dan> makes it easier to read
[03:13] <powhatan-dan> and quickly move blocks of code
[03:13] <ESphynx> powhatan-dan: but what do you mean?
[03:14] <powhatan-dan> view this image
[03:14] <powhatan-dan> http://notepad-plus-plus.org/assets/images/notepad4ever.gif
[03:14] <ESphynx> thanks. an image is worth a thousand words :)
[03:14] <powhatan-dan> you see the - sign
[03:14] <dr_willis> geany and some editors like vi and emacs have  folding features i recall to keep cide in discrete  blocks
[03:14] <ESphynx> powhatan-dan: The collapse feature of blocks?
[03:14] <powhatan-dan> exactly
[03:14] <powhatan-dan> yes
[03:14] <punkmexic> hello how can i make transmission to download torrents from chrome?? when i click on magnet link it opens other chrome windows
[03:14] <powhatan-dan> when moving things in php it makes it so easy
[03:15] <maitake> i tried sublime text lately.. loved it immediately and blew the 70 dollars on a registered copy :)
[03:15] <dr_willis> looks like folding to me  powhatan-dan
[03:15] <powhatan-dan> lol nice
[03:15] <powhatan-dan> yes it is
[03:15] <ESphynx> powhatan-dan: we got that as feature request http://ecere.com/mantis/view.php?id=684  :P Submitted in February last year
[03:15] <powhatan-dan> ahh
[03:15] <ESphynx> unfortunately not high priority right now, but contributions are welcome :P
[03:15] <ESphynx> what's the other thing?  like a lines overview?
[03:16] <ESphynx> how do you display on the left side as lines?
[03:16] <Ghjnut> Maybe a better question to ask would be: If I want to transfer files from an ubuntu install to a windows 7 machine via an external, how should I format the partition?
[03:16] <maitake> sublime text <3 :http://i.imgur.com/Cf18pGN.png
[03:16] <Ghjnut> external hard drive*
[03:17] <icelite> Hi
[03:17] <powhatan-dan> sorry stepped away for a minute esphynx
[03:17] <dr_willis> Ghjnut:  ntfs or fat32
[03:17] <powhatan-dan> I'm kind of blown away at how polished your IDE is
[03:17] <ESphynx> powhatan-dan: which ide?
[03:17] <maitake> which one powhatan-dan ?
[03:18] <powhatan-dan> ecere-sdk
[03:18] <ESphynx> Ohhh are you?
[03:18] <ESphynx> thanks :) hehe
[03:18] <powhatan-dan> wasn't expecting that
[03:18] <ESphynx> I don't quite consider it polished yet, but I'm sure it will be when the community kickstarts :P
[03:18] <maitake> this? http://www.ecere.com/wiki/images/0/01/IdeShotSept2011.png
[03:18] <Ghjnut> dr_willis: ntfs
[03:18] <Ghjnut> dr_willis: At least that's how I currently have it formatted
[03:19] <ESphynx> maitake:   http://www.ecere.com/tmp/ideShotJuly2013%20Wide.png -- newer shot :P
[03:19] <powhatan-dan> very nice
[03:20] <powhatan-dan> the keyboard shortcuts to highlight work fine
[03:20] <xmetal> wow i  had too much coffee lol ...feel like i am vibrating in my chair
[03:20] <powhatan-dan> that's always my biggest concern lol
[03:20] <maitake> not bad ESphynx
[03:20] <daftykins> xmetal: oh sorry that was me
[03:20] <ESphynx> also, http://ecere.com/gnosis/gnosis44.jpg  http://ecere.com/gnosis/gnosis42.jpg -- upcoming 2D/3D GIS toolkit based on the Ecere SDK :)
[03:21] <ESphynx> powhatan-dan: oh well there ya go! lol There are also global settings options for difference preferenes... like caret past end of line
[03:21] <powhatan-dan> nope those are fine
[03:21] <ESphynx> powhatan-dan: and cool samples like a 3D chess game :)
[03:21] <rolando> hi
[03:21] <ESphynx> oh yay a free caret lover \o/
[03:21] <powhatan-dan> ctrl + shift + down arrow
[03:22] <powhatan-dan> works perfect
[03:22] <roots47> So, the ISO I downloaded is apparently just Ubuntu 13.04, but I see there is also a "Gnome" version.  Does the desktop version come with any windows?
[03:22] <xirre> If someone gets access to your SSH, what should you do? As precaution.
[03:22] <roots47> Ubuntu 13.04 Desktop*
[03:22] <rjknight1> firewall
[03:22] <rjknight1> deny port ssh
[03:23] <ESphynx> powhatan-dan: Did you check out those gnosis shots? :)
[03:23] <xirre> How would I do that under Ubuntu 13.04?
[03:24] <xmetal> like with mint, in ubuntu, you should be able to download ifferent desktops to suit your need (Gnome, kde, xfce, ..etc)
[03:25] <daftykins> you can
[03:25] <xmetal> i usually pick one to download for the iso and then after i install it, i download the other DE's
[03:25] <xmetal> as long as i can switch (i can) ... i never really care which one i get for the "intial installer" (ISO)
[03:25] <roots47> xmetal: So Ubuntu 13.04 Desktop is fine?
[03:26] <roots47> xmetal: I wasn't sure if this came with a particular windows installed or something
[03:26] <rjknight1> @xirre use ufw
[03:26] <xmetal> not sure what dE that uses .. I am getting the idea that it's "Unity" ... if you want gnome or KDE for example, you can download the packages for those two and install them and switch anytime you want :)
[03:27] <xmetal> (Disclaimer: I do not use Ubuntu, but it and the one I use "Linux Mint" are very similar)
[03:27] <xmetal> ubuntu users may be able to help more
[03:27] <xmetal> the "usual" ISOs for any distro are usually Live CD/DVDs
[03:27] <xmetal> which reminds me i need to backup a few isos :)
[03:27] <xmetal> brb
[03:29] <dr_willis> unity is the default desktop
[03:30] <dr_willis> !unity
[03:30] <roots47> xmetal: in your honest opinion, what do you like about mint over ubuntu? if anything?
[03:30] <lolcat> Unity is gardbadge meant to be used on touch screens
[03:30] <roots47> xmetal: One of the sys-admin guys at my old work used mint and liked it
[03:30] <dr_willis> its trivial to install extra desktops
[03:30] <dr_willis> !fud
[03:30] <xmetal> i agree ..,. its a piece of cake to install them
[03:31] <rhtrar_> oh, i'm glad i'm not the only one who hates unity
[03:31] <dr_willis> menu
[03:31] <xmetal> really i cant comment on Ubuntu since last i used it, was version 10.10 ... unity turns me off, but the two are so similar i think i dont feel the need for both
[03:31] <xmetal> (ubuntu and Mint)
[03:31] <xmetal> they both are good
[03:32] <maitake> ubuntu and xfce is a great pair
[03:32] <roots47> I'm pretty new to the linux world.  I am a developer, is there anything, in mint or ubuntu that would make my life easier as a developer? Or are the differences very subtle?
[03:32] <maitake> xubuntu or otherwise
[03:32] <xmetal> xfce is what i use on alot of distros
[03:32] <dr_willis> roots47:  developing what?
[03:32] <maitake> i modified my xfce install a LOT.. looks wicked sexy
[03:32] <xmetal> for new users i recommend Mint or Ubuntu (just without unity)
[03:33] <roots47> dr_willis: Mostly javascript, we use git, and experimenting with other languages
[03:33] <maitake> yeah mint is nice
[03:33] <xmetal> i like the fact that with both distro's (especially with each version of either) i dont have to spend hours trying to configure it
[03:33] <maitake> me too
[03:33] <xmetal> (hours = may be pushing it for a choice of words)
[03:33] <roots47> hehe
[03:34] <dr_willis> unity is fine. wife and grandkids can handle it. they dont have the preconceived  notions of how a desktop should be
[03:34] <maitake> but then if you want to configure and tweak lots of things, the sky is the limit :)
[03:34] <maitake> unlike windows
[03:34] <xmetal> i just dont care for Unity (only my personal opinion) .. i like almost anything else
[03:34] <xmetal> (Xfce, lxde (i think i got that right), KDE, or Gnome
[03:35] <xmetal> )
[03:35] <steve228> I have a question about the app launcher Docky, but went to their IRC channel and nobody would even respond... Is there anybody in here that has experience with docky?
[03:35] <maitake> yeah it's fair.. unity does it's thing well but isn't for everyone
[03:35] <dr_willis> i am getting too used to android type desktops.. i try android things on the pc. ;-)  out of habbit
[03:35] <maitake> steve228: I do
[03:35] <maitake> what you want to know?
[03:35] <xmetal> true .. i am just saying i dont like it ... some users love it and i say "use what you like"
[03:35] <maitake> android is cool
[03:35] <xmetal> thats the thing i love about linux .. your not stuck with "one or the other"
[03:35] <xmetal> :)
[03:36] <maitake> xmetal: yeah haha. honestly i think the divide among gnome 3 users and non-users is worse.. lots of trash talk
[03:36] <maitake> exactly
[03:36] <maitake> steve228: what's your question?
[03:36] <xmetal> i never heard of lxde til a week ago and i have to say i really like it
[03:37] <steve228> I have the dock installed and tried to use the terminal helper, but it is not working
[03:37] <maitake> oh :(
[03:37] <maitake> i never had much luck with the helpers either
[03:37] <xmetal> (i hope i have that right :P .. close enough)
[03:37] <maitake> not sure why
[03:37] <steve228> I dragged my home folder to the dock and it is not adding a menu entry for opening a terminal
[03:38] <steve228> is there maybe a config file that I can tinker with
[03:38] <maitake> well maybe i'm not who you need to ask after all :( i've toyed with docky a lot but never bothered to try and make the helpers work
[03:38] <maitake> steve228: there's dconf-editor
[03:38] <steve228> what about nautilus scripts?
[03:38] <steve228> because that would be just as good
[03:38] <maitake> docky options show up under Apps -> Docky
[03:39] <steve228> thanks..
[03:39] <maitake> steve228: oops, misled you..
[03:39] <maitake> not dconf-editor, but gconf-editor :)
[03:40] <maitake> should see a lot of docky options when you expand 'apps'
[03:43] <steve228> and how do you get my name in front of your message? is that a command (sorry I haven't used IRC in a while)
[03:43] <steve228> yea i already had gconf up lol thanks though...
[03:44] <steve228> maitake: were you typing my name before writing your message, or is it a command (sorry haven't used IRC in a while)
[03:45] <maitake> steve228: ah, that can depend
[03:45] <maitake> i'm using xchat to connect to IRC
[03:46] <maitake> and it has auto-complete.. I type 'st' or 'ste' and hit tab and it completes to 'steve228'
[03:46] <wiak> maitake,
[03:46] <xmetal> tab?... hmm hexchat doesn't seem to do that
[03:46] <wiak> ls
[03:46] <wiak> :P
[03:46] <xmetal> (xchat "fork")
[03:46] <wiak> irssi does that to
[03:46] <maitake> hexchat doesn't?
[03:46] <xmetal> oh wait
[03:47] <xmetal> n/m
[03:47] <maitake> i can't imagine it doesn't
[03:47] <maitake> haha
[03:47] <xmetal> :P
[03:47] <maitake> oh okay
[03:47] <wiak> do anyone have a good hdd to ssd clone tool?
[03:47] <wiak> ?
[03:47] <xmetal> maitake, (testing that feature)
[03:47] <xmetal> there we go
[03:47] <xmetal> :P
[03:47] <maitake> :)
[03:47] <maitake> i changed the ',' prefix to ':' in the options
[03:48] <maitake> xmetal: xmetal xmetal xmetal
[03:48] <PepperoniPizza> sup ubuntuers
[03:49] <maitake> just ubuntuing, you know
[03:50] <maitake> might ubuntu off and go to bed
[03:51] <ubulost> beginner question: is the Domain the same things as the workgroup to an ubuntu server?
[03:54] <dr_willis> wiak:  clonezilla
[03:54] <rjknight1> @ubulost: nope.. workgroup is for file sharing.. domain is like a hostname
[03:54] <failmaster> i have a problem switching luks passphrase authorization to key file for root fs on 13.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18 anyone?
[03:56] <failmaster> i also have a problem using usb keyboard at the boot stage, but all necessary modules are loaded and keyboard detected in initramfs environment
[03:56] <failmaster> without any anomalies in dmesg
[03:57] <failmaster> i'm in desperate guys =)
[03:57] <dr_willis> you mean at the grub menu? or where?
[03:57] <failmaster> third day without any backup from community
[03:57] <failmaster> at the stage when luks wants my authorization on first reboot
[03:57] <failmaster> but the main problem is about key file
[03:58] <dr_willis> i dont know about luks. but i had usb keyboard issues once. bios setting for legacy usb  fixed it
[03:59] <failmaster> i had it too and it was bug and it was fixed and now it has another symptoms and not related to not included usbhid module
[03:59] <Programmer_> for some reason my touchpad keeps getting disabled. how do i prevent that?
[03:59] <failmaster> Programmer_, dmesg says anything related to it's behavior?
[03:59] <Programmer_> what do you mean?
[04:00] <Programmer_> xinput set-prop 12 "Device Enabled" 1 fixes it, but that's only temparary
[04:00] <failmaster> i mean that such behavior if it caused by hardware or module problems will cause filling log files with new lines Programmer_ just type dmesg in console
[04:01] <Programmer_> what am i searching for? big file...
[04:02] <failmaster> Programmer_, put it on pastebin.ubuntu.com and bring it here to troublshoot the problem
[04:02] <dr_willis> use  tail -f  to monitor it.. see what it says when it happens
[04:02] <Programmer_> http://pastebin.com/5KZjaEyN
[04:02] <Programmer_> it only happens when i reboot
[04:03] <failmaster> oh gosh
[04:04] <Programmer_> ?
[04:04] <failmaster> Programmer_, lsusb and lspci please
[04:04] <Programmer_> http://pastebin.com/zLDcycYq
[04:08] <reazem> Netbeans can only debug properly when I run it with sudo. Any ideas?
[04:09] <failmaster> Programmer_, i can't see anything wrong related to touchpad that would directly point to the problem, is it that "Bus 003 Device 003: ID 0461:4d46 Primax Electronics, Ltd" thing?
[04:09] <Programmer_> huh? my touchpad is synaptics
[04:10] <failmaster> Programmer_, ok, so it doesn't change the state after reboot, always turns itself off?
[04:10] <Programmer_> yea for some reason
[04:10] <failmaster> does it have hardware button?
[04:11] <failmaster> Programmer_, for turning it on and off
[04:14] <albern123> hello
[04:14] <failmaster> reazem, i'm not that much programmer but maybe debugging requires root privileges due to some kind of security-related things? (or it used to work without it?)
[04:15] <reazem> failmaster, For more details, this is my error message: "GDB: Failed to set controlling terminal: Operation not permitted"
[04:16] <failmaster> reazem, here you go https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdb/+bug/469005
[04:17] <failmaster> kkep an eye on it
[04:17] <failmaster> i have a problem switching luks passphrase authorization to key file for root fs on 13.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18 anyone?
[04:20] <reazem> failmaster, Thats's your post? Yes this is how crypttab works. Put a passwork too if you're scared.
[04:21] <failmaster> reazem, what?
[04:21] <failmaster> i just found a bug related to gdm issue
[04:21] <failmaster> my problem is about switching to key file
[04:22] <failmaster> reazem, so the password authorization is not something i really need
[04:22] <reazem> failmaster, I tought you were scared to reboot lol
[04:22] <failmaster> reazem, i already did, i just described the consequences
[04:23] <failmaster> of the issue
[04:23] <reazem> failmaster, are you using the same keyfile or is that not your crypttab?
[04:23] <failmaster> because it is issue, since this scheme used to work on 12.04 and it still works for sdb1 drive presented on the system
[04:23] <icelite> Hi
[04:23] <failmaster> reazem, i don't see the reason to use another one in context of situation
[04:24] <reazem> failmaster, did you manage to mount the drive manualy with the keyfile after?
[04:25] <failmaster> what is strange is that maybe i have a clue why is this happening, but no one tries to discuss the subject for three days, not into question branch on launchpad, not into this bug report
[04:25] <failmaster> reazem, yes under chroot environment
[04:25] <reazem> failmaster, try usind uuid
[04:26] <failmaster> it is already using uuid
[04:26] <reazem> oh lol
[04:26] <failmaster> as it written on crypttab at first manner and due to what i see in grub.cfg
[04:26] <reazem> when you mounted manually, you used uuid?
[04:27] <failmaster> reazem, i tried both ways
[04:27] <failmaster> mounts fine
[04:27] <failmaster> and i also checked if this uuid is the same one under initrd image contents
[04:28] <aleksey2013> !ru
[04:29] <reazem> failmaster, can we be sure /boot is mounted at that point?
[04:29] <failmaster> reazem, it works with /deb/sdb1 and used to work for all hdds in system on 12.04
[04:30] <aleksey2013> can anyone help?   TeamViewer 8
[04:30] <roots47> Hey everyone... So I'm on one of the first steup screens for ubuntuits saying to make sure its plugged into a power source and that it's connected to the internet.   I tried wiring my laptop directly, but it didn't seem to recognize the internet, is this a problem?  Will I be able to obtain all the necessary drivers?
[04:30] <failmaster> so i assume it is mounted since sdb1 drive stopped asking for password with the only key slot 0 containing key file
[04:30] <rjknight1> use italc for teamviewer
[04:30] <rjknight1> or vncviewer
[04:30] <aleksey2013> (
[04:31] <aleksey2013> need help to come to check the log and the problem of video on the band flashes
[04:31] <failmaster> reazem, why blkid under initramfs environment doesn't show anything but 2 luks-encrypted devices?
[04:32] <reazem> I don't know how things play out at boot.
[04:32] <failmaster> there are 2 more usb devices and usb modules are present, while usb keyboard doesn't work, but if it was the reason, how comes that keyfile mounts sdb1 alone on this stage
[04:32] <reazem> did you try switching the order?
[04:33] <xmetal> i cant speak for drivers @ roots ... i dont usually install Mint/Ubuntu while on thne net and it goes fine
[04:33] <failmaster> why should i? there is nothing related to the order
[04:33] <xmetal> every PC is different though .. yours "may need" extra drivers
[04:34] <failmaster> i keep asking myself why i'm still here, because there is no way you will hear a word on launchpad and most probably no one will help me here =))
[04:34] <roots47> xmetal: alrighty, I'll give it a try... hopefully I can get online tomorrow for work :P
[04:34] <holstein> aleksey2013: teamview is an add-on 3rd party application.. you'll seek support with the package maintainer.. i just installed it today, and it worked fine
[04:34] <failmaster> i would switch to debian, but it has it's own issues
[04:34] <failmaster> according to my setup
[04:35] <xmetal> every pc is different, though i have never needed (for the most part) to be online to get drivers except once
[04:35] <aleksey2013> TeamViewer 8 works
[04:35] <xmetal> (back with ubuntu 9.04 i needed to manaully get wifi drivers)
[04:35] <aleksey2013> Who will go through it to help
[04:35] <xmetal> but that was a long time ago
[04:35] <xmetal> support has improved
[04:35] <reazem> failmaster, I run debian and it's all encrypted :)
[04:35] <failmaster> reazem, wheezy?
[04:35] <aleksey2013> )))
[04:36] <holstein> aleksey2013: maybe, and probably no one. state your issue and a volunteer will help if they can
[04:36] <reazem> failmaster, recently upgraded to jessy.
[04:36] <failmaster> reazem, passphrase?
[04:36] <reazem> failmaster, yeah I use a yubikey for my systems.
[04:36] <reazem> I don't really see a point in keyfiles.
[04:36] <roots47> xmetal: Can I more than likely at least find the drivers for my wireless card?
[04:37] <failmaster> reazem, does your usb keyboard works under initramfs? did u have issues with latest setup images? i did
[04:37] <roots47> xmetal: I can transfer them via some other means
[04:37] <reazem> failmaster, so did I for the keyboard lol
[04:38] <xmetal> likely .. i found that more recent versions of Mint (ubuntu is going to be the same way i bet) have had better support for hardware and I have not had to manually install anything
[04:38] <reazem> failmaster, that's actually the reason I used jessy. I wanted to reinstall my wheezy system and KB wouldn't work on latest wheezy image.
[04:38] <failmaster> reazem, try to take usb hdd and make cp netinst_or_dvd1.iso on it and get into expert install, did you meet the issue when it mounts wrong device as installation media?
[04:38] <xmetal> i'd try the live dvd/cd and see if it detects your hardware, befure you install it
[04:38] <xmetal> before *
[04:39] <xmetal> you can see if it see's your hardware before you install anything, that way
[04:39] <failmaster> reazem, i tired spending two days with those issues on wheezy this week
[04:39] <reazem> failmaster, Yeah i have had this issue too.
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> xmetal, Mint is based on ubuntu I doubt ubuntu will do anything they do, all the drivers are available in ubuntu you just have to work a little harder, that is mints point.
[04:39] <reazem> failmaster, Has to do with the fact that we are using USB I think
[04:40] <failmaster> reazem, and there are no guarantess i won't get into same situation i'm in now with key files
[04:40] <roots47> So yeah, I'm in ubuntu now, but it doesn't seem to be recognizing my wireless? Any ideas?
[04:40] <holstein> !wireless
[04:40] <leeping> y
[04:40] <reazem> failmaster, Heh. Depending on the complexity of your setup trying can take as few as 30 minutes.
[04:41] <reazem> failmaster, I can rebuild my whole system in 30mins script does it all.
[04:41] <reazem> failmaster, actually. I might do that tomorrow for my desktop. I'
[04:41] <reazem> im pissed at unstable ubuntu raring lol
[04:41] <failmaster> reazem, yeah, because it became too easy to install linux on desktops which caused hordes of people who doesn't need anything special to change priorities in distrib maintaining process to this current point where you can't get nothing to work from start until you need nothing but raw xfce/unity/gnome/kde desktop
[04:42] <roots47> xmetal: Too late.  Is there any way to figure out which drivers I need to dowload?
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> roots47, You said " I tried wiring my laptop directly" Ethernet right?
[04:42] <reazem> failmaster, You're on raring too?
[04:42] <failmaster> that's why if i won't deal with my current issues on ubuntu i won't come here anymore and won't provide any of my free time to help people to use linux
[04:43] <failmaster> reazem, unfortunately in my case it doesn't change anything, 13.04 or even debian so_stable wheezy, i am
[04:43] <reazem> failmaster, Just GTFO raring and get 12.10.
[04:43] <xmetal> well a simple web search should do it ... if you have another OS installed, get the name of your wifi adapter and search for that "and ubuntu" and see if you get any results
[04:43] <xmetal> (in "device manager")
[04:43] <xmetal> for example
[04:43] <failmaster> reazem, i'm talking about dealing with issues, getting rid of the whole instance is not a solution, it's an escape
[04:44] <reazem> failmaster, it's not supposed to be stable software. if there is really a bug, you'll have to touch souce to fix it.
[04:44] <failmaster> reazem, i very appreciate those couple of guys who paid attention to my problems
[04:44] <failmaster> thank you dudes
[04:45] <reazem> gotta go, GL.
[04:47] <failmaster> hey guys, i have a problem switching luks passphrase authorization to key file for root fs on 13.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18 anyone?
[04:48] <jiltdil> Any one has done solaris 11 system admin certification?
[04:50] <albern123> hey, I have a slave drive which I used for a windows system, ubuntu can't recognise any of its partitions because the drive was GPT partitioned. How do fix this?
[04:51] <aleksey2013> ask for help. you need to go to my PC and set it up to check and remove any extra bags ... video player band in the video is correct .. who can go write + + + +
[04:51] <researcher123> I have 13.04 installed on entire hard disk.How can I install Windows XP alongside?
[04:52] <dr_willis> resize the partitions. put a ntgs at the front
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> albern123, You planning on installing there, and if so how are you going to boot?
[04:52] <dr_willis> use gparted. and learn how to restore grub
[04:52] <researcher123> dr_willis: how do i do this?
[04:52] <xmetal> true
[04:52] <xmetal> i'd download (great tool) "SuperGrub"
[04:53] <dr_willis> ....  use gparted
[04:53] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[04:53] <xmetal> (or i think there is one on the same site "Recaulux" (i know the spelling is off)
[04:53] <researcher123> dr_willis: how to put ntgs at front?
[04:53] <xmetal> or your could just follow ubott's url
[04:53] <xmetal> :)
[04:53] <holstein> aleksey2013: im not following the issue
[04:53] <dr_willis> researcher123:  with gparted
[04:54] <researcher123> dr_willis: thanks.Im trying.But will it make dual boot possible then by default?
[04:54] <dr_willis> resize linux. shrink it.. put new partition at front
[04:54] <dr_willis> install windows.. fix grub
[04:55]  * xmetal agree's with dr_willis
[04:55] <dr_willis> get that boot-repair live cd first. to make it easier
[04:56] <researcher123> dr_willis: ok.
[04:56] <dr_willis> gparted live cd is worth having also
[04:56] <albern123> wilee-nilee, no, i use the drive for data only, it was on my windows 8 pc but i moved it to my ubuntu pc
[04:56] <researcher123> dr_willis: where can I get gparted live cd?
[04:56] <aleksey2013> ubuntu 13.4
[04:57] <Dm> isn't gparted an application you can download on a live cd?
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> albern123, So the drive is unallocated as of now, there can be gpt remnants even then that cause problems is this the case here?
[04:57] <xmetal> i have to say i haven't used Retaux, though its suppose to do more thatn "Super Grub" i think
[04:58] <jiltdil> suppose i want to make sure that  software packages on   my system  are up to date or not without  installing any updates, then which command i have to  use      pkg list -u    or pkg info -r "*"  or pkg update –nv ‘*’   please help i am confused this is on solaris
[04:59] <albern123> wilee-nilee, no, i'm just trying to view the data on my ubuntu pc, i don't want to wipe it or anything, gparted says it is unallocated though
[04:59] <dr_willis> jiltdil:  solaris is not linux
[04:59] <jiltdil> dr_willis, yes, but i want to know this answer if  you may help :)
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> albern123, So whats the final goal here?
[05:00] <dr_willis> jiltdil: ask a solaris channel
[05:00] <dr_willis> !alis
[05:00] <jiltdil> dr_willis,  there are very less people and no one is responding
[05:01] <jiltdil> dr_willis, Thanks anyway :)
[05:01] <albern123> wilee-nilee, being able to mount the hdd as a secondary drive without losing the data that is on the drive
[05:01] <aleksey2013> PEOPLE REALLY DO NOT SOMEBODY HELP ME
[05:01] <aleksey2013> ((((((((
[05:01] <johnny_fly> ?
[05:01] <xmetal> is that English?
[05:02] <aleksey2013> transparent band on the video's kind of like mixing
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> albern123, Not sure to be honest, I would not want any gpt myself if not needed.
[05:02] <aleksey2013> asked for help from Russian banks were given for the question
[05:03] <xmetal> i repeat my question
[05:03]  * xmetal scratches head
[05:03] <albern123> wilee-nilee, is it possible to convert it to MBR and mount it without loosing data?
[05:04] <dr_willis> convert gpt to mbr? not sure thats possible
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> albern123, Not sure the unallocated is a red flag to me, however maybe this is normal in this circumstance the way the HD is setup, just not an area I can really help in.
[05:05] <researcher123> My browser n applications open too slowly n often hang.Im on 13.04.The problem appearing since a fortnight.It was ok before
[05:05] <albern123> wilee-nilee, ok thanks then, i'll keep looking
[05:05] <hyper_ch> hmmm, applying latest updates on 13.04 makes mysql server not working anymore
[05:06] <johnny_fly> researcher try to install preload
[05:07] <hyper_ch> mysql server problems:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5965042/
[05:07] <researcher123> johnny_fly: where do I get that
[05:07] <johnny_fly> synaptic orr console
[05:07] <johnny_fly> apt-get instal preload
[05:08] <researcher123> ok.thanks
[05:08] <johnny_fly> with sudo ofcourse
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> and two l's in install
[05:11] <albern123> ok i installed gdisk and opened the drive with it, and a bunch of errors came up: Invalid main GPT header but vailid backup, regenerating main header from backup! Caution! After loading partitions, the CRC doesnt check out! One or more CRCs don't match you should repair the disk!
[05:11] <albern123> how do I repair the disk?
[05:11] <xmetal> oops .. Rescatux is what i was talking about before
[05:14] <wilee-nilee> albern123, Did this start with the HD running fine with windows?
[05:15] <santhosh> hai
[05:15] <johnny_fly> hi
[05:15] <johnny_fly> :p
[05:17] <albern123> wilee-nilee, yes it did, the verify command in gdisk recommends that i load a backup partition table from the disk
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> albern123, Cool, just checking, sometimes key info is left out.
[05:18] <johnny_fly_SRB> albern123 you change something on disk after ubuntu install?
[05:19] <failmaster> hey guys, i have a problem switching luks passphrase authorization to key file for root fs on 13.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18 anyone?
[05:20] <albern123> johnny_fly_SRB, not that i know of, unplugged the drive for install, plugged back in afterwards
[05:20] <aleksey2013> who is with the video card  ?  nvidia 650 ti  help
[05:22] <johnny_fly_SRB> albern123 make fresh instal with plugged disk and that will fix your problem - but that is final solution
[05:25] <albern123> johnny_fly_SRB, what do you mean by final solution?
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> johnny_fly_SRB, So your saying that reinstalling ubuntu is going to make this secondary HD with a gpt setup showing as unallocated in gparted, magically appear?
[05:25] <johnny_fly_SRB> yap i thing that
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> hardly that is got to be wrong
[05:26] <roots47> Hey everyone.  I'm in a bit of a crunch.  I overrode my windows 7 install with ubuntu, and now my computer isn't recognizing internet, neither wired or wireless
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> johnny_fly_SRB, exsplain how that is going to work.
[05:26] <johnny_fly_SRB> its can be:(
[05:26] <roots47> Any ideas how I could solve this?
[05:27] <wilee-nilee> roots47, This all internal hardware?
[05:27] <santhosh> which version ubuntu u unstalled
[05:27] <xmetal> ouch
[05:27] <roots47> wilee-nilee: yes, all internal
[05:27] <roots47> santhosh: 13.04
[05:27] <johnny_fly_SRB> When i have any big problem with my ubuntu i reinstall him and ubuntu fix all problem by himself
[05:28] <santhosh> just reinstall it
[05:28] <roots47> johnny_fly_SRB: Ok I'll give that a try
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> roots47, Run lspci in the ubuntu terminal and identify the ethernet and wifi info, you will have to download some drivers it sounds like on another computer, if you just don't have a switch off.
[05:28] <santhosh> did u get internet on windoes 7
[05:28] <roots47> santhosh: yes
[05:29] <santhosh> just check "lspci" it would detect your ports or not
[05:30] <roots47> wilee-nilee: BroadCom Corporation BCM43228 802.11a/b/g/n for my network and Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection
[05:30] <wilee-nilee> johnny_fly_SRB, YOU are just saying the same thing that is not helping in any way.
[05:30] <santhosh> i think it isd better to doownload the network drivers or reinstall
[05:30] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | roots47
[05:30] <icelite> Hi
[05:31] <santhosh>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx            it is good
[05:31] <roots47> wilee-nilee: thanks, when it says go to system > administration... where can I find this menu?
[05:31] <johnny_fly_SRB> help too me ...
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[05:32] <johnny_fly_SRB> I do not have problem with ubuntu
[05:32] <santhosh> what is the problem
[05:33] <failmaster> hey guys, i have a problem switching luks passphrase authorization to key file for root fs on 13.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18 anyone?
[05:33] <wilee-nilee> roots47, This would be if you had internet access I believe to download them, however it is in the software center-edit-software sources last tab on the right.
[05:34] <Beed> so boring
[05:35] <johnny_fly_SRB> wilee-nilee how to make big letters in xchat?
[05:39] <roots47> wilee-nilee: Ok, so I'm looking at where its saying to install bcmwl-kernel-source from the restricted folder of the media?
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> roots47, Not an area I know much about never had to do this myself.
[05:41] <roots47> wilee-nilee: I see :P lucky
[05:41] <sarthor> any help to install bigbluebutton on ubuntu13.04 server, I found "howto", that is for ubuntu 9.04. not working on 13.04.
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> yeah, sounds like you are on the right track though.
[05:41] <roots47> wilee-nilee: do you know how to 'browse the media' assuming my media is a usb drive?
[05:41] <holstein> sarthor: what does "bigbluebutton" do? maybe there is something more recent that can do the job
[05:41] <Chris262> noob in need of some setup help
[05:42] <sarthor> holstein, for video conferencing
[05:42] <wilee-nilee> sarthor, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/BigBlueButton
[05:43] <Chris262> just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu server on an old box i picked up.  i am connected to my router with a cable.  but every time i try to ping out I get Network is Unreachable or unknown host
[05:43] <sarthor> wilee-nilee, I tried that but failed. some commands not working on 13.04 that is for 10.04.
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> sarthor, NOt sure if that will do with a Google search I see refrences to 13.04 and bigbluebutton
[05:43] <holstein> Chris262: i had to set manual DNS on a home network.. can you ping the gateway?
[05:43] <santhosh> your updating your os
[05:43] <santhosh> ot just reinstall it
[05:44] <Chris262> fresh install of ubuntu on what was a windows xp machine
[05:44] <wilee-nilee> sarthor, here is what I found maybe this will help. https://www.google.com/search?q=bigbluebutton+13.04&btnG=Search&hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&gbv=1
[05:44] <holstein> Chris262: can you ping the gateway?
[05:45] <roots47> wilee-nilee: this guide doesn't seem to have any information on doing the install via USB media... only references cd apparently
[05:46] <wilee-nilee> roots47, the usb has the same files, not sure of any real answer though myself.
[05:47] <Chris262> how do i find the gateway?
[05:47] <Chris262> kinda backwards since i am on 2 different comps that are connected to 2 different routers
[05:47] <gr33n7007h> Chris262, route -n
[05:48] <Chris262> getting 0.0.0.0 for gateway and genmask of 255.255.255.0
[05:48] <Chris262> for some reason my iface is set up vibro0?
[05:48] <Chris262> shouldn't that be eth0 or eht1?
[05:49] <Chris262> eith1* since I have 2 10/100 ports
[05:49] <roots47> Does anyone know how to navigate usb media on ubuntu?
[05:49] <holstein> roots47: same as anything else, really
[05:49] <gr33n7007h> yeah should be
[05:49] <Chris262> how do i got about changing that then..
[05:50] <Chris262> go about*; damn i can't type tonight for shit
[05:50] <sam__> I have installed forefox from tarball and created a symbolic like at /usr/bin/firefox   .  Now, I can't find firefox icon in dash home. So, I lauched firefox from terminal ( WITHOUT sudo ) and locked to laucher. As it did not have an icon, I created an icons diectory at /usr/lib/firefox and added a firefox128.ico icon to it. Now, I can see the firefox icon in the laucher but It doesnt spawn the browser. The icon is still missing from d
[05:50] <santhosh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick    <roots47>
[05:50] <sam__> in ubuntu 12.04
[05:50] <holstein> sam__: why? why not use the repo version of ff?
[05:50] <gr33n7007h> Chris262, udev rules
[05:51] <sam__> holstein: I want the latest version so that I can run the firefox OS simulator.
[05:51] <failmaster_faile> hey guys, i have a problem switching luks passphrase authorization to key file for root fs on 13.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18 anyone?
[05:51] <holstein> sam__: i ran the simulator with no issues on 12.04
[05:51] <gr33n7007h> Chris262, Edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[05:52] <sam__> holstein: The problem is not with the simulator. I cant find firefox in the dash home. I have to lauch it from terminal. How can I fix it?
[05:53] <Chris262> gr33n7007h: it is giving me no write permission, unknown mime-type
[05:53] <sam__> And OS simulator is not available for firefox version < 20.0
[05:53] <Chris262> gr33n7007h: i am the only user on the thing…
[05:53] <holstein> sam__: i would fix it my removing that version, and using the repo one
[05:54] <gr33n7007h> sudo
[05:54] <dshap> hey all, i have an upstart script here: http://pastebin.com/cbqFcAv6 but when i run it, it says it "start: Job failed to start". the weird thing is that i can run that command in my shell and it works fine...any ideas?
[05:54] <gr33n7007h> Chris262, sudo
[05:54] <santhosh> http://linuxg.net/install-mozilla-firefox-18-0-1-on-ubuntu-12-04-ubuntu-12-10-linux-mint-13-and-linux-mint-14/     follow this<sam__>
[05:54] <sam__> I really need to know how to do the other way. That can help me in my contibution to OSS too.
[05:54] <roots47> wilee-nilee: Guess what?
[05:55] <failmasterfailed> sam__, https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-next and i guess you have to find some references on how icons and menus in your DE being created after packages installation
[05:55] <Chris262> gr33n7007h: just did that and got "Warning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules" --using "application/octet-stream"
[05:55] <holstein> sam__: there can be PPA's and other unsupported ways to add FF that may be easier
[05:55] <Chris262> gr33n7007h: then: "Error: no "edit" mail cap rules found for the "application/octet-stream"
[05:56] <roots47> wilee-nilee: IT RECOGNIZES MY WIRELESS. Thank you man.  I can now participate in my daily work routine tomorrow.
[05:56] <gr33n7007h> Chris262, Mmmmm...
[05:56] <euxneks> howdy, a lot of my applications, when I'm running in unity, look like they are still using the window decorations from kde - for instance, the buttons, scrollbars, checkboxes, tabs, etc.
[05:56] <euxneks> I don't want this.
[05:57] <failmasterfailed> root_, atheros chipset gets the better support for linux
[05:57] <failmasterfailed> oops
[05:57] <failmasterfailed> roots47, atheros chipset gets the better support for linux
[05:57] <Chris262> that is what i say..
[05:57] <roots47> failmasterfailed: good to know
[05:58]  * Gavos coughs. "Is this the big kid's table?"
[05:59] <sam__> unfailedagain: thanx. But I dont want a one click installation by adding a new repo. Consider I am building from sources.
[05:59] <Gavos> Jiminy Christmas. This channel is SO. VERY. LARGE.
[06:00] <holstein> sam__: the ppa would be the easiest.. both are not officially supported
[06:00] <Gavos> Would you rather I just said hi?
[06:00] <sam__> holstein: *repeat* I am building from sources.
[06:01] <kostkon> sam__: the daily?
[06:01] <holstein> sam__: correct.. the ppa *and* that are not officially supported.. remove the versions you have added.. update the verison from the official repos
[06:01] <unfailedagain> sam__, you're messing with creating menu/desktop entry/icon procedures, get closer to your current DE, this is for gnome https://developer.gnome.org/integration-guide/stable/desktop-files.html.en
[06:02] <holstein> sam__: i ran that simulator in FF in 12.04, with the updated version in the repo
[06:02] <kostkon> sam__: which version do you really want
[06:02] <icelite> Why does xchat need updates ?
[06:02] <unfailedagain> he wants to build it from sources dudes, what is it unclear lol
[06:02] <sam__> kostkon: any version > 20.0
[06:02] <sam__> and I have the sources
[06:02] <unfailedagain> he doesn't want ppa, he just wants to build it and have an icon
[06:03] <kostkon> sam__: the repos version is 23.........
[06:03] <kostkon> ...
[06:03] <unfailedagain> but fails to create one
[06:03] <unfailedagain> oh god it's not a surprise i can't get support for myself
[06:03] <holstein> unfailedagain: and the user may.. what is unclear is that the version built from source is not supported.. and the repo version supported the functionality the user seeks
[06:03] <unfailedagain> holstein, how comes that something built from source is not supported?
[06:03] <johnny_fly_SRB> ima li koga?
[06:04] <goddard> can some one look at this for me? http://askubuntu.com/questions/327249/2-amd-7950s-do-not-work-in-crossfire-mode
[06:04] <unfailedagain> good luck with that statement because he wants and he does build it from source and it works
[06:04] <holstein> unfailedagain: because, its the responsibility of the maintainer, at that point..
[06:04] <unfailedagain> and more, it is expected to work
[06:04] <unfailedagain> holstein, nothing stops anyone to build it from source, there are even cozy deb-srcs
[06:05] <unfailedagain> and that's good when someone does have such wish, good for whole community
[06:05] <holstein> unfailedagain: and im not trying to stop anyone from anything
[06:05] <dshap> anyone know why an upstart script might fail if it's just executing one command and that command otherwise works fine?  http://pastebin.com/cbqFcAv6
[06:05] <unfailedagain> no, until you start saying that " version built from source is not supported.."
[06:05] <holstein> unfailedagain: the fact is.. its not in the repos, and not our responsibility.. we cant control all the variables.. its not OT to ask for help here
[06:06] <unfailedagain> holstein, are you maintainer?
[06:06] <holstein> unfailedagain: do you hae a support question, friend?
[06:06] <goddard> ?
[06:06] <holstein> unfailedagain: otherwise, we can argue elsewhere.. in teh OT channel for example
[06:06] <unfailedagain> i have one, holstein i have a problem switching luks passphrase authorization to key file for root fs on 13.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18 anyone
[06:06] <goddard> Anyone running AMD GPU in crossfire?
[06:08] <goddard> AMD 7950's are popular cards does anyone else have one?
[06:08] <reisio> if they're popular, someone else probably has
[06:08] <reisio> also even if they're not popular
[06:08] <reisio> big ole world
[06:11] <sam__> thanks guys. I think I got it. gotta restart.
[06:11] <roots47> Hmm, now that everything is up and running.  Any opinions on gnome 3 vs unity?
[06:11] <unfailedagain> both sux?
[06:11] <goddard> gnome3 is better but unity still beats it because of how windows are maximized
[06:11] <goddard> it is really the best design in that regard
[06:12] <goddard> i think the only DE that can copy it is KDE
[06:12] <holstein> roots47: try unity live. you can probably install gnome liv as well.. i use a desktop that doenst require 3d
[06:13] <goddard> holstein: why?
[06:13] <goddard> old system?
[06:13] <holstein> goddard: i choose to.. i dont need 3d on the desktop
[06:13] <goddard> holstein: why not?
[06:14] <holstein> goddard: i dont need it.. so i dont have it
[06:14] <goddard> its pretty nice and if you dont have an old system it works great
[06:14] <iceroot_> goddard: and you can do all tasks without 3d support, so why using 3d then?
[06:15] <goddard> Visual pleasure
[06:15] <iceroot_> goddard: and if he likes to use something without 3d support (like i do too) why telling him to use 3d?
[06:15] <dshap> hey all - is this an appropriate place to ask questions about upstart scripts? im trying to figure out why mine is failing to start but not sure what to do next
[06:15] <goddard> iceroot_: i didn't i just wanted to know his reason haha
[06:15] <iceroot_> goddard: some users prefer visual highlights, others not
[06:15] <goddard> iceroot_: i know that but i wanted to know his reason
[06:15] <unfailedagain> does mutter requires 3d?
[06:16] <goddard> iceroot_: some people just say that because they have old hardware
[06:16] <iceroot_> goddard: i normally just something which is able to show and manage the windows from the programs, close them, move them, thats all
[06:16] <holstein> unfailedagain: last i checked on it, it didnt.. but its been a while i had it running
[06:16] <goddard> others like flat plan desktops
[06:17] <goddard> at some point the reason to optimize by removing 3d effects and what not becomes pointless if that is the reason
[06:18] <iceroot_> goddard: sure and it is good that there are different user which prefer different systems and the great hting is, you have the choice :)
[06:18] <reisio> if 3d effects help your brain interface with your UI better, making you more efficient, nice
[06:18] <reisio> IMO that is rarely the case :p
[06:18] <holstein> goddard: i didnt "remove" them.. i just started with something that better suits my needs and preferences.. nothing wrong with whizzz-bang
[06:18] <iceroot_> goddard: 1. its depening on your graphic card, for example you need non-free software for specific cards to have good 3d support
[06:18] <reisio> unless your brain is quite shallow :)
[06:19] <iceroot_> goddard: but i guess this discussion is offtopic, it should be moved to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:19] <goddard> iceroot_: do you have a good GPU?
[06:20] <holstein> goddard: "good" is a matter of opinion.. but, please continue in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:20] <rjknight1> anyone here successfully configured DNS server on ubuntu server? May i ask for your tutorial sites if you have one? thanks.
[06:20] <holstein> !dns
[06:20] <iceroot_> goddard: i have the best gpu you can have, because the drivers are open-source
[06:20] <iceroot_> goddard: i dont care about 3d power, i need a system to work with, so i am fine with my intel card
[06:21] <jemark> iceroot_: Intel?
[06:21] <iceroot_> goddard: and i dont need fancy effects when i move a window or something like that
[06:21] <holstein> intel hardware is typically supported well by the kernel "out of the box", jemark
[06:21] <iceroot_> holstein: yes
[06:22] <jemark> holstein: i know
[06:22] <unfailedagain> any kinds of effects don't help brain to be efficient, it's all about design, while effects bring esthetical joy
[06:22] <rjknight1> is the primary and secondary master of DNS server to installed on different pc?
[06:22] <rjknight1> *to be
[06:22] <iceroot_> rjknight1: normally yes, because it is a backup system
[06:22] <goddard> holstein: this is on topic
[06:22] <holstein> rjknight1: you'll usually see a few.. opendns has 2 addresses, and googleDNS
[06:22] <goddard> iceroot_: i am asking because i was wondering if you had AMD
[06:23] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|rjknight
[06:23] <iceroot_> goddard: no, i dont have an amd card at all
[06:23] <goddard> iceroot_: I like open source its just i cant play games with them
[06:23] <goddard> ok
[06:23] <iceroot_> goddard: some systems with intel and one with optimus
[06:23] <goddard> iceroot_: intel GPU is best for open source right?
[06:23] <iceroot_> goddard: yes
[06:24] <babinlonston> want to install ip messenger for ubuntu 12.04 how to install it
[06:24] <iceroot_> goddard: you can use all features with open-source drivers. with nvidia/amd you cant use all features with free software
[06:24] <cfhowlett> goddard, maybe not "best" but it's well supported
[06:24] <jemark> iceroot_: I have an onboard HD3000 in this laptop :)
[06:24] <iceroot_> jemark: guess i have the same card, i dont care about the name. its working so i am fine
[06:24] <rjknight1> thanks... i'll read it again..
[06:25] <goddard> cfhowlett: i guess i mean the drivers are the offical drivers
[06:25] <Chris262> trying to change my iface from virbr0 to eth0 or eth1, but when I use "sudo edit '/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persisent-net.rules" i get a unknown mime-type using "application/octet-stream"
[06:25] <jemark> iceroot_: indeed
[06:25] <Chris262> anyway to get around this… i have not network access period
[06:25] <cfhowlett> goddard, right
[06:25] <Chris262> gateway is 0.0.0.0
[06:25] <holstein> goddard: "best" is a matter of opinion, and can dependon use case and hardware
[06:25] <roots47> Umm, hmm... for some reason when I'm trying to edit a file in vi, my arrow keys are producing random capital letters, I did a google search and see that it requires a :set nocompatible and recommended setting this in my vimconfig... I tried adding the line "set nocompatible" to the config in my /usr/share/vim folder to no avail. Any ideas?
[06:26] <goddard> I'm surprised with all the talk in Ubuntu about games we don't have more people that have tested hire end GPUs in multi-GPU setups
[06:26] <iceroot_> roots47: that is normal
[06:26] <goddard> higher
[06:26] <iceroot_> roots47: vi does not support the arrow keys, you want to use vim instead
[06:26] <iceroot_> roots47: and you have to install vim, because its not installed by default. sudo apt-get install vim
[06:27] <goddard> roots47: or just use nano
[06:27] <roots47> Ah ok, i'm installing vim now
[06:28] <cfhowlett> !hardware|goddard, there are hardware testing teams in ubuntu
[06:29] <rjknight1> helo again. When logging in with the user account in ldap from ubuntu desktop client, is the user be a sudoer or not?
[06:29] <unfailedagain> hey guys, i have a problem switching luks passphrase authorization to key file for root fs on 13.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18 anyone?
[06:29] <iceroot_> rjknight1: depending on your config
[06:31] <brahmana> Is there a way for me to block out access to an entire domain from my machine
[06:31] <brahmana> ?
[06:31] <OnkelTem> Hi all. In Ubuntu 12.04 with Gnome 3 I can't maximize gnome-terminal window anymore  by Alt-F10. It just prints in terminal: "3~". Any ideas?
[06:31] <goddard> cfhowlett: the hardware testing process is a pain
[06:31] <goddard> cfhowlett: they need a new system
[06:32] <cfhowlett> !dns|brahmana, yes you can do that via DNS
[06:32] <brahmana> Ex : I want to block access to some.domain.com from my machine. Is /etc/hosts.deny the right place for this?
[06:32] <goddard> ya
[06:32] <cfhowlett> brahmana, /editing hosts would also work.  perhaps ask in #ubuntu-server   ?
[06:33] <brahmana> cfhowlett: What was your suggestion with DNS?
[06:33] <rjknight1> @iceroot how do we know if our config is that the user is a sudoer or not?
[06:33] <brahmana> cfhowlett: Btw, this is for my laptop, running Ubuntu desktop.
[06:33] <cfhowlett> brahmana, I've never done the DNS route, but I have seen the /host editing method.
[06:33] <iceroot_> rjknight1: so you mean when you authenticate against slapd?
[06:34] <rjknight1> pam
[06:34] <brahmana> cfhowlett: Ok, what is the host editing method?
[06:34] <iceroot_> rjknight1: and pam is using ldap as backend and not /etc/passwd / shadow
[06:34] <cfhowlett> brahmana, I'm not a sys admin and have no experience running a server ...
[06:35] <brahmana> cfhowlett: Ok, cool. Np.
[06:39] <rjknight1> @iceroot I used this guide, http://www.unixmen.com/setup-samba-domain-controller-with-openldap-backend-in-ubuntu-13-04/ and it works. but how do we know that the user login to the ubuntu desktop is sudoer or not bae on the guide?
[06:39] <rjknight1> *base
[06:40] <iceroot_> rjknight1: you will have to look on his groups
[06:40] <iceroot_> rjknight1: getent group
[06:43] <rjknight1> @iceroot_: Domain Admins:*:512:root Domain Users:*:513: Domain Guests:*:514: Domain Computers:*:515: Administrators:*:544: Account Operators:*:548: Print Operators:*:550: Backup Operators:*:551: Replicators:*:552:
[06:44] <rjknight1> @iceroot_ are those belong to sudoer?
[06:45] <iceroot_> rjknight1: no
[06:46] <iceroot_> rjknight1: dont have ubuntu here at the moment but the group should be "sudoers" or "admin"
[06:46] <iceroot_> rjknight1: the groups you will get are normally special domain-users
[06:47] <goddard> sudo
[06:47] <manowar3> Is there a Firefox plugin that saves the zoom % for each website?
[06:48] <iceroot_> manowar3: that is the default
[06:48] <goddard> ya thats default for me
[06:48] <manowar3> iceroot_, hmm... too much zoom plugins for me then. I'll try that now thx
[06:49] <Notex> Hello.
[06:49] <rjknight1> @iceroot_ okay the user that i created is not in the sudoer but how we can make some of our user be a sudoer?
[06:49] <cfhowlett> Notex, greetings
[06:52] <basiclaser> i have a really old machine that needs an OS, it has <128 ram. Any OS suggestions?
[06:52] <iceroot_> rjknight1: ad them to the group
[06:53] <iceroot_> basiclaser: lubuntu would be the only ubuntu system
[06:53] <cfhowlett> bashy, xubuntu and lubuntu are optimized for older/slower machines.
[06:53] <reisio> well, their preinstalled apps are
[06:53] <zaggynl> does anyone know what " start -q anacron || :" does?
[06:54] <reisio> zaggynl: is that in an upstart script or something?
[06:54] <auronandace> basiclaser: anything below 512mb ram is going to crawl with any desktop version of ubuntu
[06:54] <reisio> zaggynl: it probably means start 'anacron' quietly, and if it fails do what comes after
[06:54] <euxneks> howdy, the solution to my previous problem was to delete the gtk-3.0 dir under .config and also remove the oxygen-gtk theme in /usr/share/themes
[06:54] <zaggynl> ah
[06:54] <rjknight1> @iceroot_ : a group like domain admin?
[06:54] <zaggynl> thanks
[06:54] <rjknight1> @iceroot_ or as a special user?
[06:55] <tones> will older versions of ubuntu work quicker on older hardware?
[06:55] <reisio> tones: not particularly
[06:56] <cfhowlett> tones, better off to try lubuntu and/or xubuntu ...
[06:56] <auronandace> tones: most likely yes, but they are unsupported
[06:56] <euxneks> I have another issue though, that's that unity is not starting properly on login. After login, if I can issue the command "unity --replace" (I happen to have synapse installed) it works fine.
[06:57] <euxneks> are there any logs where unity will put errors that happen?
[06:58] <reisio> maybe your session isn't being saved
[06:58] <euxneks> what would cause that?
[07:00] <reisio> euxneks: various things
[07:01] <rjknight1> @iceroot_ anyway thanks :) I will configure this out... till then.
[07:01] <rjknight1> *figure
[07:01] <euxneks> reisio, can you point me in a direction to try to find out a solution?
[07:02] <basiclaser>  auronandace: ok thanks, what would you suggest in place of lubuntu?
[07:02] <reisio> euxneks: if you made a new, extra user and logged in and it worked fine with that user, then that would suggest some simple corruption/misconfiguration of config files in your original user's ~/
[07:02] <euxneks> is there a command with apt-get which is similar to "yum provides" ?
[07:02] <euxneks> ah, reisio, good idea
[07:03] <reisio> euxneks: apt-file
[07:03] <auronandace> basiclaser: on that machine you'd only get away with a non-gui ubuntu i would have thought (non-ubuntu suggestions can be found in ##linux)
[07:04] <basiclaser> auronandace: ok thanks. I can never seem to comment in linux, can't work out the registration. #IRCnoob
[07:04] <euxneks> reisio, thanks
[07:05] <auronandace> !register | basiclaser
[07:07] <seekwill> Hello! With Ubuntu 13.04, I can connect my 3g wireless card and it "just works". What program does this magic?
[07:09] <auronandace> seekwill: since you're talking about hardware then it would be a driver in the linux kernel
[07:09] <greyhatpython> seekwill it's the Linux Kernel! not magic.
[07:11] <seekwill> Sorry, I meant that connects with the 3g service. Is it "Network Manager"? Is there some plugin?
[07:12] <seekwill> I'm asking because I'm testing this modem on a Raspberry Pi (with only Debian)
[07:12] <seekwill> Wondering if it's Ubuntu magic or not
[07:12] <unfailedagain> seednode, modemmanager?
[07:12] <unfailedagain> oops sorry
[07:13] <unfailedagain> seekwill, modemmanager?
[07:13] <seekwill> Ah. I will look into that. That looks promising!
[07:24] <antonio_> ciao
[07:26] <fetoega> Is there any distro of ubuntu that comes with nvidia 325 as default?
[07:27] <somsip> !info nvidia-current
[07:27] <himanshu_linux> hi
[07:27] <somsip> fetoega: you could try #ubuntu+1 for details on 13.10
[07:28] <fetoega> Someguy123: i do not think they have it by default either. I think it is an older version.
[07:28] <somsip> !info nvidia-current saucy
[07:28] <somsip> fetoega: yep - looks the same
[07:28] <fetoega> when i install from edgers i get agpgart errors and a black screen.
[07:28] <HypnotiX> any web developer here ?
[07:29] <somsip> fetoega: PPAs can be troublesome which is why they are not officially supported.
[07:29] <somsip> HypnotiX: why?
[07:29] <fetoega> i know. But the drivers in the official repos does not support newer cards
[07:29] <HypnotiX> i have some problems with compass and yeoman
[07:29] <somsip> HypnotiX: neither or which seem to be ubuntu issues. This is ubuntu support channel
[07:30] <HypnotiX> well it has to do with linux :)
[07:30] <HypnotiX> and im on ubuntu so i donno where else to ask
[07:30] <HypnotiX> i get the following error when i try to run a command
[07:30] <HypnotiX> Error: EACCES, permission denied '/home/clslice/.config/configstore/update-notifier-yo.yml'
[07:30] <HypnotiX> You don't have access to this file.
[07:31] <somsip> HypnotiX: no, really. It's off topic. Please find somewhere more appropraite
[07:31] <somsip> HypnotiX: #yeoman is live according tot he suport page
[07:32] <HypnotiX> yeah just not active :(
[07:45] <mafsi> hi, can anyone help me with the hotspot i've created? i cant see it with any device, although is running.
[07:45] <albern123> hey does anyone know how to mount a drive which is GPT partitioned?
[07:45] <killer> hey
[07:46] <dr_willis> albern123: same as any other drive albern123
[07:46] <dr_willis> !mount
[07:46] <killer> I have a script that i want to be run from terminal (as a terminal command) and make it available for all users(so not ~/.bashrc)
[07:47] <dr_willis> killer:  put it in /bin  or /usr/bin
[07:48] <albern123> dr_willis, when I look at the drive in GParted there are two partitions, when i look at the drive in fdisk or disk utility it only shows one partition
[07:48] <dr_willis> fdisk is not set ti gandle gpt i think.
[07:49] <dr_willis> whar does    sudo blkid     show
[07:49] <albern123> /dev/sdb1: UUID="25a66b6f-1ad2-42ad-8134-21e8318eab8b" TYPE="ext4"
[07:50] <albern123> but the drive i want to mount is /dev/sda
[07:50] <dr_willis> try mounting sdb1 then
[07:50] <dr_willis> sda should be shown on another line if its detected
[07:50] <dr_willis> does dmesg mention sda?
[07:51] <dr_willis> is this an external usb? or internal hd?
[07:51] <killer> dr_willis: i copied killer.sh to /bin but still not accessible as command
[07:52] <albern123> an internal hd
[07:52] <dr_willis> killer:  you made it executable?
[07:52] <dr_willis> try the full path to the script
[07:53] <Lope> okay I thought I completely understood permissions but now I've hit a dead end. on my dev PC (where I need write access from PHP) /var/www/ has 770 permissions is owned by bob:www-data. Apache can pull up the index.php page, no problem. then I created a group called web-users and added www-data to the web-users group. Then I chgrp'd -R the /var/www/ dir to web-users and when I do that apache gets permission denied. any ideas?
[07:54] <killer> dr_willis: full path works but i don't want to put full path everytime
[07:55] <dr_willis_> log out and back in.  the  bash PATh cache is not rerfreshed yet
[07:55] <dr_willis_> or just open a new shell
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> where  exactly did you copy it to?
[07:58] <albern123> gparted says that ntfsprogs is missing
[07:58] <Lope> okay just needed to restart apache2
[07:59] <ikonia> Lope: every time you change a users groups, you need to restart the shell that user is running so it re-refresh it's status in a new shell
[07:59] <erik_tecnico> hi
[08:00] <erik_tecnico> whas up ?
[08:00] <ikonia> erik_tecnico: worth checking the /topic of the channel you've just joined
[08:01] <erik_tecnico> ikonia i move me no you me move ?
[08:01] <erik_tecnico> kkkkkkkkkk
[08:01] <ikonia> erik_tecnico: I'm sorry, I don't understand what you've just said
[08:02] <erik_tecnico> loida
[08:02] <erik_tecnico> kkkkkkkkkkk
[08:02] <erik_tecnico> loock the simple lession
[08:03] <erik_tecnico> open the terminal
[08:03] <erik_tecnico> ubuntu
[08:03] <erik_tecnico> and digit the command
[08:03] <bazhang> !br | erik_tecnico
[08:03] <erik_tecnico> touch file.txt
[08:03] <bazhang> erik_tecnico, stop that
[08:04] <erik_tecnico> and the create the file.txt on directory
[08:05] <bazhang> erik_tecnico, this is ubuntu support only, stop pasting commands here
[08:05] <ikonia> erik_tecnico: do you have a problem you need help with ?
[08:05] <erik_tecnico> ok this my lession
[08:05] <erik_tecnico> yes
[08:05] <ikonia> erik_tecnico: ahh ok, please continue
[08:05] <bazhang> erik_tecnico, dont continue with that
[08:06] <ikonia> erik_tecnico: explain your problem please
[08:07] <erik_tecnico> i need folder for paste my flashlib on mozill
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> !flash | erik_tecnico
[08:07] <ikonia> erik_tecnico: you want to know where to put your flash library for mozilla ?
[08:07] <erik_tecnico> ok
[08:07] <erik_tecnico> tanks
[08:09] <erik_tecnico> yours are bad education
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> thats a weird way to say 'thank you'
[08:10] <bartje> hi all, I've got here a failed update of mysql, now it isn't working anymore of course.. don't know what went wrong here..
[08:11] <ikonia> bartje: define "failed update" and define "not working"
[08:11] <pinqvin> is there any ways to get sd-card reader to work in toshiba portege 150r?
[08:11] <ikonia> pinqvin: depends on if the hardware is supported
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> some build in card readers in some laptops can be picky and a problem
[08:12] <bartje> ikonia: not working is quite easy to define... not working.. and failed: error processing mysql-server (--configure) dependency problem - unconfigured
[08:12] <bartje> I tried purging, reïnstalling..
[08:12] <ikonia> bartje ok well you want to give smart answers, I don't want to help
[08:13] <rtfmdude> is it necessary to have a keyscript option in order to use luks authorization based on a key file?
[08:13] <bartje> ikonia: not working is not working, what's so difficult about hat definition?
[08:13] <ikonia> bartje: "not working" could mean anything, not starting, can't login, can't connect, dropping connection, etc, but you want to be smart with "not working" - bye
[08:13] <ikonia> bartje: in that case "fix it"
[08:13] <pinqvin> ikonia: i found in the web that toshiba doesn't have drivers for linux
[08:13] <pinqvin> so is there some
[08:13] <bartje> bad day I guess
[08:14] <ikonia> bartje: not for me, I can fix it
[08:14] <ikonia> pinqvin: the SD card reader is probably not made by toshiba, so you need to find out who makes it, then we can look at that device's support in linux
[08:14] <rtfmdude> is it necessary to have a keyscript option in order to use luks authorization based on a key file for drive with mount point on / (root fs)?
[08:14] <pinqvin> if it is not supported is there something which i would try?
[08:15] <ikonia> pinqvin: if it's not supported, no , it's a dead end
[08:15] <ikonia> pinqvin: if there is support/limited support we can work it through, but you need to know the make/model before we can work taht out
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> determins the card readers chipset pinqvin  how have you 'proven' its not supported?
[08:15] <bartje> next error on attempt to reïnstall : E: internal Error, No file name for mysql-server-5.5:amd64 ..
[08:16] <EZRAK> anyone knows about backtrack5
[08:16] <EZRAK> ?
[08:16] <ikonia> EZRAK: the people in #backtrack-linux do, but it's EOL and offtopic here
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> EZRAK: ask in #backtrack-linux
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> EZRAK:  it has its own suipport channels
[08:18] <pinqvin> yea i'm not sure about support but i searched via google
[08:18] <pinqvin> so where i could search the model of the reader? google?
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> pinqvin:  staert aith 'lspci' output
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> start with..
[08:19] <EZRAK> no one is online
[08:20] <pinqvin> i run out of battery soon ... so i don't know when my laptop shuts down
[08:20] <ikonia> EZRAK: read the topic in their channel - it's dead
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> EZRAK:  thats not really our problem. its not ubuntu.  try the  backtrack web site for alternaivces
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> why do you even think you need backtrack
[08:21] <EZRAK> thanks
[08:23] <pinqvin> http://pastebin.com/npwQHFNz here is output of the command
[08:25] <pinqvin> so the sd reader is:Toshiba America Info Systems SD TypA Controller (rev 03)
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> that  would be my guess,, or one of the other devices that are   not the wifi, or other known devices. ;)
[08:26] <pinqvin> what you mean?
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> eliminate the ones that  are obviously NOT  a card reader.,
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> that leaves like 3 items
[08:29] <pinqvin> yea there is three in that lis which could be
[08:29] <pinqvin> *list
[08:44] <clj_newb_2345> for ssds, shoudl I (1) nt create a sawp partitin or (2) smehow tell ubuntu to minimize the sawp use?
[08:46] <wilee-nilee> clj_newb_2345, Are you sure its being used?
[08:47] <wilee-nilee> clj_newb_2345, check this page. https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> clj_newb_2345: do you have a platter based storage?
[08:59] <rtfmdude> is it necessary to have a keyscript option in order to use luks authorization based on a key file for drive with mount point on / (root fs)?
[09:01] <Shadow}}> How do I save a file that requires permission?
[09:01] <Shadow}}> Run mousepad in sudo from term?
[09:01] <tgary> Hi! Is "charge your phone via USB 3.0 while computer is off" works with linux? How can I activate it?
[09:01] <eos> hi everybody! anyone who knows how to detected the highest bit per sample I can get from my sound card on ubuntu?
[09:02] <reisio> tgary: not likely anything to do with software (Linux)
[09:03] <Shadow}}> Never mind, I got it.
[09:03] <tgary> reisio: Does not need to turn off USB devices, to remain in a special power state? (Like for ethernet off is no power, but in higher power states it can listen for wake-on-lan packets.) ?
[09:04] <edge731> hello all!, i need to virtualize a raspberry soft-float debian on virtualbox
[09:04] <eos> I found a way of detecting the maximu sampling rate, and it worked, but do not seem to be able to detect the maximu bit depth
[09:04] <edge731> can somebody help me ?
[09:04] <reisio> tgary: huh?
[09:05] <histo> edge731: /j #virtualbox
[09:05] <Dozy> edge731: you want to virtualise raspbain with the pi's hardware on your pc?
[09:05] <histo> edge731: or vbox whatever their channel is
[09:05] <reisio> I don't think VirtualBox does ARM
[09:05] <wilee-nilee> #vbox
[09:05] <reisio> kvm would
[09:06] <edge731> well, there is a .img file in raspberry.org dowloads that says it´s " soft-float ABI" for usage with virtualbox....
[09:07] <tgary> reisio: I'm not a hardware expert, but think there is similar for USBs too: If you power off your computer, and USB keyboard will not wake up the computer, because there is no power for the HUBs. But when I suspend my machine, it can wake up for a key press on an USB keyboard.
[09:07] <edge731> well im not whure wy i posted it here, sorry ! XD
[09:07] <edge731> im gonna look for virtualbox channel
[09:07] <Dozy> edge731: no problem ^_^
[09:07] <histo> edge731: there is alsoa  araspberry pi channel
[09:08] <Dozy> #vbox
[09:08] <histo> !alis | edge731
[09:08] <tgary> reisio: Isn't there similar for this? Like in one switched off power state it does not charge, in another switched off power state it charges. ?
[09:08] <Rapid2214> Anyone else having issues with http://askubuntu.com/ ?
[09:08] <reisio> tgary: uh, maybe
[09:08] <reisio> tgary: but if nothing is plugged in it won't charge for sure
[09:09] <Dozy> Rapid2214: its not loading for me
[09:09] <Rapid2214> Thanks Dozy, coffee break it is!
[09:09] <Dozy> Rapid2214: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/askubuntu.com
[09:09] <Dozy> np
[09:09] <edge731> thanks for the tips!, :D
[09:10] <tgary> reisio: Yeah, but I checked, and when I plugged in the device (while the machine was powered off), my USB 3.0 did not charge the device.
[09:10] <histo> tgary: shutdown with the device plugged in
[09:10] <reisio> tgary: and when it was turned on it did?
[09:12] <lorgan> hey could anyone help me installing ubuntu from a bootable usb? After an attempt at installing it goes straight to win 7 (no grub or other bootloader shows up) and booting with the usb plugged in gives this: http://files.myfrogbag.com/oij151/HPIM1603.JPG
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> sounds like grub installed to the usb. not the hd and got confused
[09:14] <rtfmdude> is it necessary to have a keyscript option in order to use luks authorization based on a key file for drive with mount point on / (root fs)?
[09:15] <tgary> histo, reisio: When it was turned on, it charged. Now I tried histo's suggestion, but when the machine is turned off, the charging is stopped.
[09:15] <lorgan> I also found this thead which seems to be a similar problem (http://askubuntu.com/questions/41930/kernel-panic-not-syncing-vfs-unable-to-mount-root-fs-on-unknown-block0-0) but the second command gives "special device /dev/sdax does not exist"
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> lorgan:  you are not using   'sdax' are you?
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> its an example 'device'  use the proper one for your system
[09:17] <lorgan> i just entered the command from the thread (sudo mount /dev/sdax /mnt) but i actually don't know what it's supposed to do..
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> lorgan:  ithats an INCORRECT command
[09:17] <Dusya> Hi people
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> as i said.. use your device. not 'sdax'
[09:17] <Orpheon> lorgan, he means use sda1 or sda2 etc...
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> lorgan:  i suggest going and getting that boot-repair livce cd and use it to fix grub instead
[09:18] <pinqvin> boot repair is easy and fast way to repair grup
[09:19] <Orpheon> boot-repair the program?
[09:19] <histo> tgary: it may only charge in suspend mode, where do you think linux or ubuntu has anything to do with when your machine is off?
[09:19] <Orpheon> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair this herE
[09:19] <Orpheon> ?
[09:19] <histo> s/where/why/
[09:20] <g105b> When I press any key on my keyboard or move the mouse, the screen flickers like crazy. All glitchy squares of colour. Just rebooted, no better. Doesn't do it on the login screen though.
[09:20] <histo> !nomodeset | g105b
[09:21] <g105b> thanks
[09:23] <Dusya> pindosi
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> i had a laptop that had a usb 'power' port. it gave usb power even when totally  off. ;)
[09:23] <Orpheon> ^confirmed
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> i could charge my  phone from it  ;) used it as a huge battery for my phone while away from powar.
[09:24] <Dusya> Who wants me?
[09:24] <eos> hi everybody! anyone who knows how to detected the highest bit per sample I can get from my sound card on ubuntu?
[09:24] <eos> I found a way of detecting the maximu sampling rate, and it worked, but do not seem to be able to detect the maximu bit depth
[09:24] <Dusya> email me
[09:24] <histo> Dusya: do you have a ubuntu related question?
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> Dusya:   this is a ubuntu support channel..
[09:25] <Shadow}}> Anyone here know how to set-up OpenVPN? I could really use some help with the *vars
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> Shadow}}:  the 'digital ocean' vpn/vps site had some guides on that topic i recall
[09:26] <tgary> histo: I've tried suspend to ram, but the charge stopped. It is an OS issue, how the USB HUB is turned off. Like you suggested: when I turn off my computer, Ubuntu puts the USB HUB in "off-off" mode. When I suspend it to ram, it stops it in a higher power state, thus enabling device charging.
[09:26] <Shadow}}> Dr_Willis; I'm on a how-to now, but it says to edit these vars however, I do not know if i am to change the vars to whatever or as he shows in the example...
[09:26] <histo> tgary: it is not an OS issue it's a hardware issue
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> Shadow}}:  i imagine you change to  to be what you need.
[09:27] <histo> !openvpn | Shadow}}
[09:27] <Shadow}}> Dr_Willis; IE: export KEY_Country="US" <- These things, And the email exports, To setup these certificates, Am I to use what I fill in or what the example has provided?
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> Country=US.. are you in the US?
[09:28] <llutz> Shadow}}: make it to fit your environment
[09:28] <Shadow}}> I've been sitting here arguing with myself... about it all.
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> i imagone his examples are ... examples...
[09:29] <Shadow}}> What about the export KEY_EMAIL= ?
[09:29] <llutz> Shadow}}: you can fill in whatever you want if it is for your private use only
[09:29] <Shadow}}> It is.
[09:29] <tgary> histo: The OS shuts down the HW! Read back: wake-on-lan is activated, when the ethernet card is not shut down completely (even when the computer is off); computer wakes up when a key is pressed on the USB keyboard while in suspend state, but these do not work, when the computer is completely turned off.
[09:29] <Shadow}}> But I do not have my own /domain email/, Is this required?
[09:29] <llutz> Shadow}}: fill in "foo" in each field, foo@bar in email and you're done
[09:30] <Shadow}}> So I was right... Its all for show, Yes?
[09:30] <llutz> Shadow}}: it is totally up to you what you fill in there. nobody cares
[09:30] <llutz> (on private usage)
[09:30] <Shadow}}> Define private usage please.
[09:30] <llutz> Shadow}}: "just you"
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> are you doing this for a mega-corp? :)
[09:31] <Shadow}}> Ah, Then yeah.
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> or your grandma and you?
[09:31] <Dr_Willis>  :)
[09:31] <Shadow}}> Of course not, If I was that corp would be bankrupt.
[09:32] <llutz> Dr_Willis: then he needs a valid email adress, how else would granny know where to direct her complaints
[09:32] <Shadow}}> Cut me some slack, I gave up on VPNs years ago on Windows. This however seemed easier.
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> she calle him up on that fancy new Tellular Phone
[09:33] <Shadow}}> =.= Lol, Thanks for the help.
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> I like the 'ads' for the new e-print printers.. give one to granny.. then you can print her mail straight to her... ;)  lovely way to use ink...
[09:33] <babinlonston> Now i cant enable eth0 in ubuntu 10.04 its saying module not available how can i enable the module manually
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> babinlonston:  sudo modprobe modulename
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> babinlonston:  did you compile your own kernel or somthing?
[09:35] <babinlonston> Dr_Willis: i installed ubunut 10.04 in virtual machine after that im getting this error
[09:35] <babinlonston> whats the module name for network in ubuntu 10.04
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> babinlonston:  vbox? or what?
[09:36] <babinlonston> yes
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> babinlonston:  theres no generic module for 'networkk' it depends on the network card
[09:36] <babinlonston> Hyper-v
[09:36] <babinlonston> oh
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> and vbox has options to use several differnt network cards in its settings
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> whyy are you using 10.04 anyway?
[09:36] <babinlonston> installing kaltura video paltform in it
[09:36] <babinlonston> Kalutra supports only ubuntu 10.04
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> sounds like somthing i would avoid. if they can only support a 4 yr old os..
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> but check your vbox settings. it can emulate i think 3 differnt network cards.
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> but the default settings have always worked for me
[09:38] <babinlonston> only one network card is there
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> id double check the vbox manual also.
[09:39] <babinlonston> k
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> i recall for some old windows versions, one had to change the default NIC vbox emulated to use some chipset that was included with the old windows.
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[09:46] <Shadow}}> Pretty sure I messed it up. >->
[09:46] <danielle> ciao
[09:46] <danielle> !list
[09:46] <Shadow}}> Will someone please help guide me through this how-to? -_-'
[09:47] <Shadow}}> I messed up at Client Certificates.
[09:50] <babinlonston> dr_willis: installed :) removed the adapter in hyper and added new Hardware and choosed legacy adapter , but it may little slower
[09:51] <Shadow}}> Anyone willing to guide me through this how-to on OpenVPN? I messed up at Client Certificates.
[09:52] <john2x> how do I automatically stop the first process called with `proccess1 & process2` after process2 finishes?
[09:53] <gmag> hello, I am trying to install "apt-get install nfs-kernel-server" but it is taking a huge amount of time "reading package lists...". Any idea of what I might be missing?
[09:57] <burlap> Hey! Ubuntu!!
[09:57] <burlap> ...........Windows.....
[09:57] <burlap> Bwahaha.
[09:57] <mjayk> ...
[09:58] <Shadow}}> So...No one is willing to help me? Come on, I made it half way through. o-e
[09:58] <Shadow}}> Also I think this is the only spot I actually need help with...
[10:00] <david> Hi ther!
[10:01] <Shadow}}> Fine, I give up.
[10:01] <mjayk> Hi david
[10:01] <Shimpu> marcepan,
[10:01] <david> heey mjayk
[10:02] <Antar> hi
[10:03] <mjayk> hay
[10:03] <Antar> is there an offline version for wubi
[10:03] <Antar> of wubi
[10:04] <Antar> guys
[10:04] <MonkeyDust> Antar  ubi is a windows application thats included in the iso, what do you mean by "offline version"?
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> wubi*
[10:05] <Antar> whene luanch wubi it start downloading a verion of ubuntu
[10:05] <Antar> what if i have an iso
[10:05] <Antar> downloaded
[10:06] <pavelkovar> Hello all, I have quite problem with my ubuntu 13.04. I made fresh installation and then I spent a lot of time of config and installing apps for my work. My problem is that during my setup I played with user setting and now my only user (pavel) is not in sudo users
[10:06] <pavelkovar> Is there some option to put back my user to sudousers?
[10:07] <pavelkovar> install system again is not  an poption
[10:07] <Yurij> linux is fucking brain, use windows
[10:07] <ikonia> pavelkovar: boot from recovery media (livecd) and add the user back into sudo group
[10:07] <ikonia> Yurij: that langauge is not welcome or acceptable
[10:08] <ikonia> Yurij: that topic is also not really appropriate, please stop.
[10:08] <Dozy> pavelkovar: http://askubuntu.com/questions/7477/how-can-i-add-a-new-user-as-sudoer-using-the-command-line
[10:08] <Yurij> linux is f_ck_ng brain
[10:08] <lvleph> pavelkovar: maybe you could edit the sudoers from the live disk.
[10:09] <Antar> Please help i have windows xp installed on my computer i want to install ubuntu with it i have a cd iso what can i do ?
[10:09] <lvleph> Dozy: if the only user is not in sudoers then he won't be able to add a user to the sudoers.
[10:09] <pavelkovar> I dont have anyone now, I installed it from cd but in CDROM position is my second disk now
[10:09] <ikonia> !install | Antar
[10:10] <ikonia> pavelkovar: then unplug it and plug the cdrom back in
[10:10] <ikonia> pavelkovar: or make a bootable USB
[10:10] <Antar> ubottu can you help specificly
[10:11] <ikonia> Antar: what part of the info do you not understand ?
[10:11] <Micky> hi
[10:11] <Antar> ikonia i am working on xp
[10:11] <ikonia> Antar: that wasn't my question
[10:11] <lvleph> pavelkovar: maybe make a live disk from a usb?
[10:11] <Antar> i want to install my pre downloaded iso
[10:11] <ikonia> Antar: have you read the link ubottu just gave you ?
[10:11] <Micky> could someone help me for scheduling a sh script in ubuntu ?
[10:12] <lvleph> I am sure there is a better way to do this but this is what I thought of, pavelkovar
[10:12] <lvleph> Micky: look into to cron
[10:12] <Micky> I tried but seems that all is configured well but it doesn't work
[10:13] <Antar> ok ikonia can i make wubi use my downloaded iso instead of downloading another ?
[10:13] <Micky> with crontab -e I scheduled the follow:
[10:13] <Micky> 22 0 * * * root /home/boxinformatica/Scrivania/backup.sh
[10:13] <pavelkovar> ok, so probably I have to create live USB somehow, I expect some "secret command" to fix this :D
[10:13] <ikonia> Micky: yes, it's in the list
[10:13] <ikonia> Micky: why do you have the word "root" in there ?
[10:14] <Dozy> pavelkovar: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[10:14] <Micky> because I need that it must be executed as root
[10:14] <Dozy> there you go
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> Micky  do you want to run a job as root? if yes, use     sudo crontab -e
[10:14] <Antar> ikonia can you answer
[10:14] <ikonia> Micky: where in the crontab documentation does it tell you to put the word "root" in your crontab ?
[10:14] <ikonia> Antar: it's in the link ubottu gave you
[10:15] <Dozy> pavelkovar: that will do the job. GL with your issue
[10:15] <Micky> ikonia in some examples I read that is also possible to do it
[10:16] <Micky> I will try with the MonkeyDust suggestion
[10:16] <Antar> ikonia i read it i said that wubi trying to download new version during the installation
[10:16] <ikonia> Micky: I'd be interested in seeing those examples
[10:16] <Micky> doyou want the code of sh script ?
[10:16] <MonkeyDust> Micky  'root' is not a command, remove it from that line
[10:16] <Micky> I tried but nothing happen
[10:17] <ikonia> Micky: I'd like to see the example that tells you to put root in there
[10:17] <Micky> I will try with sudo crontab -e
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> Micky  try     sh /home/boxinformatica/Scrivania/backup.sh
[10:17] <Antar> infact this irc channel is not helpfull
[10:17] <ikonia> you don't need "sh"
[10:17] <ikonia> the backup.sh should have the appropiate shell set and enviornment variables
[10:17] <Micky> ikonia, http://askubuntu.com/questions/2368/how-do-i-set-up-a-cron-job topic #20
[10:17] <Dozy> pavelkovar: if you have no access to the boot menu you should be able to do this via a live CD
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> Antar  maybe this helps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wubi
[10:18] <ikonia> Micky: that's terrible, I'll flag that now
[10:18] <Dozy> Antar. DO you want to Duel boot or do you want to run it ontop of windows?
[10:18] <Antar> duel
[10:18] <Micky> ok
[10:18] <Dozy> ok you need to burn the ISO you downloaded from Ubuntu.com onto a Disk
[10:19] <pavelkovar> Dozy: I am going to try it now thankas
[10:19] <Dozy> np
[10:19] <Antar> i havent a lecture Dozy
[10:19] <Dozy> Antar:  I normally use imgburn
[10:19] <Dozy> what do you mean?
[10:20] <Antar> Dozy lecture cd
[10:20] <Antar> is there a way within windows
[10:21] <Dozy> no you need to burn the iso onto a DIsk or onto a usb drive
[10:21] <Dozy> Wubi is running ubuntu as if it was a program. That means that it will just run slower
[10:21] <Antar> okthx
[10:22] <babinlonston> Hi Any one please suggest me a IP messenger for local area Chat
[10:22] <Dozy> an0nmat1r:  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[10:22] <Dozy> wrong name sorry an0nmat1r
[10:23] <Dozy> ohh antar left that chat
[10:24] <Dozy> sorry babinlonston I have not looked into any
[10:24] <Dozy> babinlonston: would this help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=837409
[10:25] <babinlonston> ok
[10:26] <dnivra> Hello everyone! I would like to know if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pyopencl/+bug/763457 would be fixed for precise since it's still supported after all?
[10:27] <ubuntu> depio
[10:27] <ubuntu> heey
[10:28] <sharpshooter> hi friends i got a problem with mysql since last update it is showing ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[10:29] <dnivra> sharpshooter: Is mysql server running?
[10:29] <sharpshooter> nope
[10:29] <dnivra> restart it and you should be fine I guess.
[10:30] <sharpshooter> dnivra, it shows Job failed to start
[10:30] <sharpshooter> dnivra, when i type the command  service mysql start
[10:31] <dnivra> Are any other errors displayed? If not, maybe you should check the logs.
[10:31] <sharpshooter> dnivra, how can i check the mysql logs ?
[10:31] <pavelkovar> Hello, Thanks a lot I am root again on my machine
[10:31] <dnivra> sharpshooter: check /var/log/mysql* files.
[10:34] <sharpshooter> dnivra, in that there is two files when I opened that files with gedit it shows empty
[10:34] <sharpshooter> dnivra, how can take my mysql database backup with out login to mysql
[10:35] <dnivra> oh! probably the log location has been changed perhaps. Try /var/log/syslog perhaps. If not, you should probably find out where mysql error logs are stored.
[10:35] <sharpshooter> dnivra, ok checking...
[10:35] <clj_newb_2345> i installed ubuntu server -- now how do I get 3d acceleration? (I don't wnat to install ubuntu desktop since I don't want all the junk / unity / amazon crap)
[10:36] <dnivra> sharpshooter: try running "mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables &"(as root if required: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/recover-mysql-root-password.html). you probably be able to login and then take a backup.
[10:36] <reisio> clj_newb_2345: ...what exactly do you mean to accelerate?
[10:37] <clj_newb_2345> I mean to have it use my graphics card for opengl calls
[10:37] <reisio> what's your graphics card?
[10:37] <clj_newb_2345> reisio: whatever that is in macbook pro 8,3
[10:37] <clj_newb_2345> I believe it's ati
[10:38] <sharpshooter> dnivra, here is the log : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5965921/
[10:39] <dnivra> sharpshooter: I see you ran mysqld_safe. were you able to login?
[10:39] <sarthor> Hi, Is there any channel for big blue button?
[10:39] <reisio> sarthor: what's that?
[10:39] <sarthor> reisio, video conferencing
[10:40] <sharpshooter> dnivra, no I didnt used that I guest it is the part of installation after the sudo apt-get upgrate
[10:40] <reisio> ...
[10:42] <dnivra> sharpshooter: if you want to take a backup, try following that link earlier and see if you are able to login without password.
[10:42] <dnivra> if not, try running "dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server"
[10:42] <sharpshooter> dnivra, k
[10:45] <sharpshooter> dnivra, thanks to that link I just ran the command mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables &
[10:46] <sharpshooter> dnivra, now it is working
[10:46] <Marco_aurelio> Hi, can someone help me?
[10:46] <dnivra> sharpshooter: actually mysql server isn't running. This is something like safe mode that helps you take the backup of the data :).
[10:47] <dnivra> Marco_aurelio: probably you should just ask away and someone who knows will help out.
[10:47] <sharpshooter> dnivra, yeah cool option
[10:47] <[OS]Cazazo> hi all
[10:47] <Marco_aurelio> dnivra, I can not install adobe flash player from the terminal
[10:48] <Marco_aurelio> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:49] <[OS]Cazazo> I'm having a problem when I try to do an update and upgrade in the terminal, while trying  the updates I'm having the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5965954/
[10:49] <dnivra> Marco_aurelio: are you particular that you want to install using terminal. http://askubuntu.com/questions/11/how-do-i-install-adobe-flash-player might help if otherwise.
[10:49] <Marco_aurelio> Flashplugin-nonfree package is a virtual package provided by:
[10:49] <Marco_aurelio>    adobe-flashplugin-0precise1 11.2.202.297
[10:49] <Marco_aurelio>    flashplugin-installer 11.2.202.297ubuntu0.12.04.1
[10:49] <Marco_aurelio> You should explicitly select one to install.
[10:49] <FloodBot1> Marco_aurelio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Marco_aurelio: enable partner repo and install adobe-flashplugin
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Marco_aurelio: remove those packages you listed :)
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> Marco_aurelio: or install chrome and have no issues :)
[10:50] <dnivra> What's the general policy of introducing new packages into LTS versions?
[10:51] <dnivra> policy on*
[10:51] <Marco_aurelio> thanks :) dnivra ActionParsnip
[10:52] <[OS]Cazazo> I need some help...
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> [OS]Cazazo: ask away
[10:52] <[OS]Cazazo> I got error after do a sudo apt-get update and upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/5965954/
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> [OS]Cazazo: what is the output of:  cat /etc/iisue
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> [OS]Cazazo: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> [OS]Cazazo: typo
[10:55] <Increase> Anyone familiar with reaver?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> [OS]Cazazo: its a simple terminal command, same place you typed the first command you ran to generate the pastebin
[10:59] <Increase> If anyone is familiar with reaver. I'm running wash to see if WPS is locked. It tell me NO then when I run reaver against it, it says Detected AP rate limiting. What am I doing wrong?
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> msg ubottu find reaver
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> "brute force attack tool against Wifi Protected Setup"
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> !info reaver
[11:03] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> hi BluesKaj
[11:04] <BluesKaj> hey ActionParsnip , what's up today ?
[11:04] <Increase> actionparsnip That doesn't help at all.. Lol
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> I wonder why reaver is in the repos, it does not look very legal to me
[11:05] <llutz> pentesting tools aren't illegal by design
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Increase: was just curious if it was in the repos etc. Wasn't meant to help....
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> llutz: is this the whole 'guns dont kill people' :D
[11:10] <johnny_fly_SRB> radi li neko u drugu :)
[11:10] <BluesKaj> !rs | johnny_fly_SRB
[11:11] <johnny_fly_SRB> ok
[11:17] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[11:17] <jhelbling> hi
[11:17] <bgy> Hi
[11:17] <ShapeShifter499> I see the option to "bind" network connections but I can't seem to bind a wired and a wireless connection why is that?
[11:18] <jhelbling> Hello,How can i tunnel all data over ssh?
[11:18] <bgy> I'm giving a try to AWS and its Ubuntu AMI, and I'm trying to bootstrap my instance using CloudFormation, I naively tried cfn-init but it doesn't exist on Ubuntu, but I found a cloud-init package and its eponym command, but I'm not sure if it is the same thing, I want to run CloudFormation template on my newly Ubuntu created instance to test my template, any ideas?
[11:19]  * jhelbling waiting for a answer
[11:20] <babinlonston> facing error in lan messenger http://paste.ubuntu.com/5966030/
[11:22] <bgy> jhelbling, check this http://superuser.com/questions/62303/how-can-i-tunnel-all-of-my-network-traffic-through-ssh
[11:22] <bgy> lol
[11:22] <Left_Turn> hey how can i get into this directory: wget -P ~/.irssi
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> Left_Turn: do you mean download into the ~/.irssi folder?
[11:23] <Left_Turn> i want to copy something there
[11:23] <Left_Turn> yes but i dont know the download link ActionParsnip
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> Left_Turn: wget -O ~/irssi/filenametouse http://www.youmum.com/filetoget
[11:23] <Left_Turn> so i downloaded it into downloads
[11:23] <Left_Turn> oh thanks ActionParsnip
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Left_Turn: if the file is in ~/Downloads then run:   cp ~/Downloads/file ~/irssi
[11:24] <Guest52085> hello
[11:24] <Left_Turn> oh i see.. thanks ActionParsnip
[11:24] <Left_Turn> out of curiousity ActionParsnip ... i can use mv also?
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Left_Turn: obv, if the folder you are saving to is outside $HOME then:  sudo wget -O /path/to/filename http://yada....
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Left_Turn: sure, same command, just with mv
[11:25] <Left_Turn> im not quite sure where irssi folder is:(
[11:25] <Left_Turn> oh i see
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Left_Turn: ~/.irssi
[11:25] <Left_Turn> ah its in home
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Left_Turn: /home/$USER/.irssi == $HOME/.irssi == ~/.irssi
[11:26] <Left_Turn> thanks:)
[11:33] <Dozy> <3 irssi
[11:33] <Dozy> best irc client out there
[11:33] <Devels> Hi all, I'm following this post: http://superuser.com/questions/370953/how-to-not-allow-user-outside-of-home-directory-with-sftp in order to prevent users authenticating via sftp with vsftpd from going out of their home directories. The posts states to change the subsystem sftp setting to internal-sftp, but right now it's set to /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server
[11:33] <Devels> What are the implications fo this?
[11:33] <Devels> If any.
[11:33] <Devels> I'm having trouble really finding an answer
[11:36] <Devels> I understand there is a difference in implementation in how the processes are handled, but is that is, I suppse?
[11:36] <Devels> is = it
[11:44] <Left_Turn> hey which default program can i use to save a screenshot
[11:45] <ikonia> scrot ?
[11:45] <Left_Turn> oh ok let me try
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Dozy: I use it as well as pidgin :)
[11:46] <Left_Turn> i have to install it? does ubuntu have any default program?
[11:46] <ikonia> isn't there a screen shot icon ?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Left_Turn: hit your printscreen button on the keyboard...
[11:48] <Left_Turn> ok thanks ActionParsnip  that did it
[11:48] <Increase> rawr
[11:48] <Left_Turn> sorry to be a pain guys.. where in my terminal settings can i set my background colour?
[11:49] <ikonia> Left_Turn: preferences
[11:49] <Left_Turn> ah thanks ikonia
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Left_Turn: Same printscreen works in Windows, or did you not use that>
[11:52] <Left_Turn> ah yeah but in windows u have to open paint to save it.. i didnt know it did it automatically on ubuntu:(
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Left_Turn: but you would have still pressed printscreen....which is confusing me
[11:53] <Left_Turn> ActionParsnip: on windows nothing happens after you save it, like no prompt..
[11:53] <Left_Turn> print it sorry
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Left_Turn: yes but you would have still pesssed the button to make the print screen, so I'm cnfused why you didnt just hit the same button in Ubutnu..
[11:54] <Left_Turn> no, i know how to prnt.. but i thought i needed to find a paint etc to be able to save it
[11:54] <Left_Turn> i copy and paste a lot so i didnt think my clipboard needed it just yet:(
[11:55] <dr_willis> !info mtpaint
[11:55] <dr_willis> i wonder if the clipboard manager apps handle images.
[11:56] <dr_willis> !info glipper
[12:05] <jeffrey3234> when you type sudo su, it should ask you for the root password yeah?
[12:05] <jeffrey3234> not the current user password?
[12:05] <nevyn> no the current user password
[12:05] <pdro> Olá !
[12:05] <nevyn> sudo is prompting for a password
[12:05] <pdro> Alguém me ajuda aqui numa coisa .
[12:06] <pdro> EU tenho o ubuntu .
[12:06] <nevyn> prior to executing su as root
[12:06] <jeffrey3234> i see
[12:06] <nevyn> jeffrey3234: ^^
[12:06] <nevyn> if you run su it'll prompt for root's password
[12:06] <pdro> Não consigo pôr a pen usb
[12:06] <pdro> .
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> !br | pdro
[12:07] <jeffrey3234> ahh yeah it does
[12:08] <jeffrey3234> one more issue
[12:08] <jeffrey3234> i ssh in as root, type "su jeffrey"
[12:08] <jeffrey3234> get back: Signature not found in user keyring
[12:08] <jeffrey3234> Perhaps try the interactive 'ecryptfs-mount-private'
[12:09] <jeffrey3234> also have a file in my home drive called "Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop"
[12:10] <ciss> hi, i'm running 12.04 server (upgraded from 10.04 server), and i've run into some dependency issues while installing samba that i am unable to resolve. apt output: http://pastebin.com/PHbAQ8wL, sources.list: http://pastebin.com/zdTbEJbq
[12:11] <ciss> samba had been installed before the dist-upgrade, but seems to have been removed in the process (i assume - it's been a while, i can't remember)
[12:11] <jonas__> uehoaa
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> ciss  tip: there's also the channel #ubuntu-server
[12:11] <jonas__> oinaa
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> jonas__  it works, you're in
[12:12] <jonas__> eo
[12:12] <jonas__> =)
[12:12] <jonas__> :O
[12:12] <ciss> MonkeyDust: thanks, i'll head over there
[12:12] <jonas__> i see ip's
[12:20] <Mace268> .mcstatus
[12:21] <Mace268> oops wrong chan
[12:23] <JacksonIsaac> My grub menu image has been modified after I installed debian jessie on vbox
[12:23] <JacksonIsaac> can anyone help me to restore my grub
[12:25] <JacksonIsaac> here's my grub.cfg file http://paste.ubuntu.com/5966222/
[12:26] <yeats> JacksonIsaac: installing something in virtualbox will not affect anything on the host machine
[12:27] <JacksonIsaac> but when I rebooted my host debian image was coming in grub menu
[12:27] <JacksonIsaac> can you help me restore it to default please
[12:28] <yeats> JacksonIsaac: that makes no sense - Debian is not listed in your grub.cfg
[12:28] <JacksonIsaac> but some debian image is coming up instead of default ubuntu bg
[12:28] <yeats> !fixgrub | JacksonIsaac
[12:29] <JacksonIsaac> what command should I run
[12:29] <yeats> JacksonIsaac: read ubottu's links
[12:30] <Left_Turn> hey is /urs and /home the same?
[12:30] <Pici> Left_Turn: if you mean /usr/ and /home/  no.
[12:30] <auronandace> Left_Turn: no
[12:30] <Left_Turn> oh ok thanks
[12:30] <JacksonIsaac> GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`
[12:31] <JacksonIsaac> is this causing that image to come up?
[12:31] <auronandace> !fhs | Left_Turn
[12:31] <Left_Turn> thanks auronandace
[12:32] <[OS]Cazazo> sorry guys... I had to go afk
[12:32] <auronandace> JacksonIsaac: debian help in #debian
[12:32] <JacksonIsaac> they told me to ask here
[12:32] <[OS]Cazazo> ActionParsnip: are you still around?
[12:32] <JacksonIsaac> I am using ubuntu 12.04
[12:32] <JacksonIsaac> only the grub image is changed
[12:34] <[OS]Cazazo> I'm having a problem... when I try to update and upgrade from CLI... I get an error http://paste.ubuntu.com/5965954/ I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 32
[12:35] <auronandace> [OS]Cazazo: try: sudo apt-get install -f
[12:36] <[OS]Cazazo> same error
[12:36] <[OS]Cazazo> auronandace: got the same output!
[12:37] <auronandace> [OS]Cazazo: how about: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:37] <[OS]Cazazo> I tried that already...
[12:38] <[OS]Cazazo> auronandace: didn't work...
[12:38] <[OS]Cazazo> auronandace: will try it again
[12:39] <[OS]Cazazo> auronandace: same error...
[12:39] <auronandace> [OS]Cazazo: try reinstalling those packages
[12:39] <Ampelbein> [OS]Cazazo: "sudo apt-get clean" then try upgrading again.
[12:40] <jhutchins> [OS]Cazazo: I'd suggest rebooting with shutdown -Fr now
[12:40] <JacksonIsaac> the images in the /usr/share/images/defaul-grub has been changed
[12:40] <Ampelbein> [OS]Cazazo: If that doesn't work, fsck your fileystem.
[12:40] <jhutchins> [OS]Cazazo: Your package database is corrupt.
[12:41] <[OS]Cazazo> jhutchins: just typing reboot -Fr????
[12:41] <[OS]Cazazo> Ampelbein: same error
[12:42] <Ampelbein> [OS]Cazazo: Yes, "sudo shutdown -Fr now"
[12:42] <[OS]Cazazo> kk
[12:42] <[OS]Cazazo> Ampelbein: what that will do?
[12:42] <Ampelbein> [OS]Cazazo: Reboot and execute a file system check.
[12:43] <Ampelbein> [OS]Cazazo: Basically, the files on your hard disk are corrupt.
[12:43] <neo2013> !ru
[12:43] <Bauer> how do I add a new user from command line, that can login to X using ssh -x remotely?
[12:43] <JacksonIsaac> hey guys I think I found the solution :)
[12:43] <JacksonIsaac> btw thanks for the help :)
[12:43] <Bauer> I get the error no .Xauthority file
[12:44] <[OS]Cazazo> Ampelbein: every time I turn on the computer it goes through all sorts of checkins and ask to press F to fix something....
[12:44] <Bauer> on 12.04
[12:44] <[OS]Cazazo> Ampelbein: but I guess nothing is going right! I'll try your suggestion now... see you in a bit!
[12:44] <Ampelbein> [OS]Cazazo: See, that would have been a good information to pass along.
[12:45] <auronandace> [OS]Cazazo: how old is the harddrive?
[12:45] <[OS]Cazazo> two years old..
[12:45] <[OS]Cazazo> if all that
[12:46] <ActionPa1snip> [OS]Cazazo: yes here
[12:47] <ubu_> hello
[12:47] <ActionPa1snip> [OS]Cazazo: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[12:47] <[OS]Cazazo> ActionPa1snip: sorry for before.. my daughter was having problems...
[12:47] <[OS]Cazazo> ls the ubuntu version 12.04 LTS
[12:48] <[OS]Cazazo> ActionPa1snip: Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[12:48] <ActionPa1snip> [OS]Cazazo: OkropNick the packages named in your pastebin will need reinstalling and they will fix
[12:48] <ActionPa1snip> [OS]Cazazo: ^
[12:48] <ActionPa1snip> [OS]Cazazo: eg:    sudo apt-get --reinstall install gnome-shell-common
[12:49] <[OS]Cazazo> ActionPa1snip: will try that right now
[12:49] <ActionPa1snip> [OS]Cazazo: once you reinstall all the named ones, you will be ok
[12:51] <[OS]Cazazo> ActionPa1snip: thanks, looks like this did the trick!
[12:52] <ubu_> can any one help me get wifi radar work ? , i can use my wifi with the network program normaly
[12:52] <[OS]Cazazo> ActionPa1snip: should be good to try reboot and see if it doesn't go through checkings???
[12:52] <ActionPa1snip> !log > ubu_
[12:52] <ActionPa1snip> [OS]Cazazo: sure why not
[12:52] <[OS]Cazazo> ActionPa1snip: ok, thank mate!
[12:56] <neko> can any one tell me, where i can get skype for ubuntu? :-/ i have troubles,.. i am beginer
[12:57] <jrib> !skype | neko
[12:57] <ActionPa1snip> neko: enable partner repo and install from there
[12:57] <neko> thanx for advices! i am going to try
[12:58] <ubu_> can any one help me to get wifi radar work pls
[13:04] <ActionPa1snip> ubottu: what wifi chip are you using?
[13:04] <s0u][ight> hello, i added something to the community pages, can anyone confirm i did it the good way/ on the correct page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UVC (the part titled "WebCam SCB-0385N, SC-0311139N and SC-03FFL11939N")
[13:04] <ActionPa1snip> imad7: what wifi chip are you using?
[13:05] <gsommer> In Ubuntu Classic (Gnome fallback), my mouse pointer sensitivity is missing fro the gnome-control-center. What could be causing this ? (I only have general settings, like right/left mode, and double-click speed)
[13:05] <imad7> BCM
[13:07] <imad7>  /ignore #ubuntu JOINS PARTS
[13:08] <imad7>  /ignore JOINS PARTS
[13:08] <Mattias> I installed mysql, messed something up so it wouldn't start, tried to remove and purge the install again, I also manually deleted /var/lib/mysql and /etc/mysql after the uninstall.. now it won't fully install mysql again? How can I get it to install all files again?
[13:08] <imad7> can any one help me to get wifi radar work pls
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> imad7: which broadcom?
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> !broadcom | imad7
[13:13] <ActionPa1snip> imad7: sudo lshw -C network
[13:14] <zykotick9> Mattias: i'm unsure if apt-get allows the same option?  but you might want to try: aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename
[13:15] <Mattias> zykotick9, I'll try that if the thing I'm trying now won't work :) thanks
[13:15] <[OS]Cazazo> ActionPalsnip: now I'm having a different error message: Reading package lists... Error! E: Read error - read (5: Input/output error) E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[13:17] <[OS]Cazazo> oh, man... this ubuntu is annoying me now...
[13:18] <[OS]Cazazo> any one could help me???
[13:18] <ActionPa1snip> [OS]Cazazo: wget https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[13:18] <rockcoco> hello?
[13:19] <rockcoco> HI?
[13:19] <powhatan> Hello
[13:19] <rockcoco> COOL!
[13:19] <powhatan> I'm a newb but i will try to help
[13:19] <rockcoco> LOL I NEED SOME HELP
[13:19] <powhatan> What's your issue?
[13:20] <[OS]Cazazo> ActionPa1snip: chmod: missing operand after `./fixpackage' Try `chmod --help' for more information. sudo: ./fixpackage: command not found
[13:20] <rockcoco> I can't install a theme
[13:20] <powhatan> Which theme?
[13:21] <rockcoco> for GNOME
[13:21] <Pici> !details
[13:21] <powhatan> What version of Ubuntu are you useing?
[13:21] <rockcoco> 13.04
[13:22] <powhatan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V1gKPK4kfM
[13:23] <[OS]Cazazo> ActionPa1snip: chmod ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage chmod: missing operand after `./fixpackage' Try `chmod --help' for more information. sudo: ./fixpackage: command not found
[13:23] <ActionPa1snip> [OS]Cazazo: sorry, chmod +x ./fixpackage
[13:23] <ActionPa1snip> [OS]Cazazo: then:  sudo ./fixpackage
[13:24] <[OS]Cazazo> kk
[13:24] <rockcoco> anyone?
[13:24] <[OS]Cazazo> ActionPa1snip: chmod: cannot access `./fixpackage': No such file or directory
[13:24] <ActionPa1snip> [OS]Cazazo: did the file download ok?
[13:25] <powhatan> I posted a link to a video about themes rockoco
[13:25] <powhatan> specifically 13.04
[13:25] <wilee-nilee> rockcoco, A link to youtube is not enough details explain your problem the best you can.
[13:25] <[OS]Cazazo> ActionPa1snip: when I did the update before it reads the list gives the error message
[13:26] <rockcoco> OK...
[13:27] <powhatan> I thought it may be a good start
[13:27] <wilee-nilee> rockcoco, To the channel so we all can look and see it.
[13:27] <rockcoco> but how...
[13:27] <[OS]Cazazo> ActionPa1snip: stops at 84% the reading package lists... then comes with the error messages
[13:28] <wilee-nilee> rockcoco, How what?
[13:28] <[OS]Cazazo> now I have a pop up message box for report a problem detected
[13:28] <rockcoco> how go to the channel?
[13:29] <[OS]Cazazo> ActionPa1snip: it asks for my password... I do type it and it says the password is wrong...
[13:29] <wilee-nilee> rockcoco, Your on the channel, explain the problem your having.
[13:29] <jhutchins> [OS]Cazazo: I believe the correct term for the current condition of your system is "hosed".  Did you do the fsck suggested earlier?
[13:29] <rockcoco> got it..
[13:29] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[13:30] <utfans05> jhutchins, ROFL
[13:30] <wilee-nilee> jhutchins,  utfans05 That hardly helps
[13:30] <[OS]Cazazo> yes... checks for errors... I then ask to fix them.. didn't work
[13:30] <[OS]Cazazo> I don't think is a disk error... but something in the system
[13:31] <utfans05> [OS]Cazazo, how many errors are on the disk?
[13:31] <jhutchins> [OS]Cazazo: You're entitled to your opinion, but if it's been triggering filesystem checks there's a reason.
[13:32] <[OS]Cazazo> that was after the last update...
[13:32] <[OS]Cazazo> every thing was just right before it...
[13:32] <lauris> any has an idea why package dependency fails in this situation: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5966414/ ?
[13:32] <[OS]Cazazo> now I have this damn problem
[13:32] <lauris> anyone*
[13:33] <[OS]Cazazo> when trying to send the error reports, it says that could not determined what package is the problem
[13:33] <utfans05> lauris, try doing a sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, then try reinstalling.
[13:33] <wiehan> can one user be a part of more than one group?
[13:33] <lauris> utfans05, did that already
[13:33] <[OS]Cazazo> I have dual boot in this machine and windows is working just fine!
[13:33] <lauris> didn't help
[13:34] <lauris> also how would upgrade help ??
[13:34] <[OS]Cazazo> if was the HD... I should have problems there as well
[13:34] <yeats> lauris: are you using PPAs or other non-standard repos?
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> wiehan  use     groups     to find out what groups you're part of
[13:34] <lauris> yes. zabby-proxy is from Zabbix's repo
[13:34] <utfans05> lauris, just to make sure you didnt have a package that needed upgrading so that it was compatible with the dependencies.
[13:35] <lauris> there's no such package.
[13:35] <[OS]Cazazo> I don't understand why it asks for my super user password and then says it's wrong...
[13:35] <lauris> when I install this libiodbc2 package manually
[13:35] <[OS]Cazazo> that's weird
[13:35] <lauris> it works fine with zabbix-proxy then
[13:35] <lauris> it only fails when I try to install it as a dependency of zabbix-proxy
[13:36] <wiehan> MonkeyDust, that's not the problem I have plexmediaserver running and it makes itself part of the group "plex", but all files and folders have ownership and permissions set up for the users.. I was wondering whether plex can be made part of two groups: users and plex
[13:36] <[OS]Cazazo> Oh I miss the old days of the 10.04 version... when ubuntu was good!
[13:36] <[OS]Cazazo> ok guys...
[13:36] <[OS]Cazazo> I'm heading out!
[13:36] <lauris> it was never very good ;-)
[13:36] <[OS]Cazazo> cya and thanks for the help!
[13:36] <lauris> because it relies on DEB packaging
[13:36] <yeats> lauris: you might need to take it up with the maintainers of that repo
[13:38] <wiehan> Once again, can one user Safely be part of multiple groups?
[13:38] <ActionPa1snip> wiehan: you already are, so yes
[13:38] <ActionPa1snip> wiehan: run:   groups
[13:38] <rockcoco> how can I download some themes
[13:38] <ActionPa1snip> wiehan: look at how many you are in already....
[13:38] <dicaxdorcas> getfddd fuck everyone
[13:38] <getfddd> dicaxdorcas, Fuck yeah!
[13:38] <getfddd> dicaxdorcas, you're cool!
[13:39] <getfddd> crondd, fuck you!
[13:39] <BluesKaj> !language |getfddd
[13:39] <getfddd> BluesKaj, fuck you!
[13:39] <getfddd> ubottu, fuck you!
[13:39] <rockcoco> WTF?
[13:39] <getfddd> rockcoco, fuck you!
[13:39] <ActionPa1snip> wiehan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5966426/
[13:39] <getfddd> ActionPa1snip, fuck you!
[13:39] <FloodBot1> getfddd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:39] <getfddd> FloodBot1, fuck you!
[13:39] <ActionPa1snip> !ops
[13:39] <ActionPa1snip> getfddd: bye
[13:39] <getfddd> ActionPa1snip, fuck you!
[13:39] <getfddd> FloodBot3, fuck you!
[13:39] <rockcoco> fuck u!
[13:39] <getfddd> rockcoco, fuck you!
[13:39] <ForensicNerd> Hi all, anyone have a good resource for building a repo for your own source?
[13:39] <getfddd> ForensicNerd, fuck you!
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> a bot
[13:39] <getfddd> MonkeyDust, fuck you!
[13:39] <FloodBot1> getfddd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:39] <getfddd> FloodBot1, fuck you!
[13:39] <BluesKaj> crazy person
[13:39] <getfddd> BluesKaj, fuck you!
[13:40] <rockcoco> crazy...
[13:40] <getfddd> FloodBot1, fuck you!
[13:40] <getfddd> FloodBot2, fuck you!
[13:41] <Pici> sorry, thought there was more than 1.
[13:41] <rockcoco> nice
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> morning in the US, the kids are awake
[13:41] <BluesKaj> thought it was bot at first
[13:41] <wiehan> what just happened? That was vile..
[13:41] <Pici> I now return you to your regularly scheduled Ubuntu support.
[13:42] <powhatan> lol what the hell just happened
[13:42] <Pici> It was spam. Lets move on.
[13:42] <BluesKaj> just ignore it , happens once in a while
[13:42] <ForensicNerd> How does one make their code available for download via apt-get?
[13:42] <RagingAvatar> Well. That was pleasant.
[13:43] <RagingAvatar> I would assume you create an appropriate package and make it available on an apt server?
[13:43] <rockcoco> How can I use iTunes on Ubuntu?
[13:43] <BluesKaj> well , 15 secs of fame on ubuntu :)
[13:43] <zykotick9> !ppa | ForensicNerd
[13:43] <RagingAvatar> (I've never looked into.)
[13:43] <Pici> !newppa | ForensicNerd
[13:43] <wilee-nilee> ForensicNerd, apt-get is directed at ubuntu repos, or a repo in the sources.list
[13:43] <bkfitz> I'm currently running proftpd on 10.04, but I'm concerned about passwords being passed in clear text... has anyone set up sftp for proftpd and/or have any recommendations for me?
[13:43] <ForensicNerd> Thanks everyone!
[13:43] <RagingAvatar> rockcoco: What are you trying to do? Literally you want to run iTunes or is there some functionality you're looking for?
[13:44] <wilee-nilee> bkfitz, This a server only?
[13:44] <bkfitz> wilnee-nilee: yea
[13:44] <wilee-nilee> bkfitz, Cool, just making sure.
[13:44] <bkfitz> wilee-nilee: apache, php, mysql, postgres, etc
[13:45] <bkfitz> want to give a dev ability to ftp code into wwwroot
[13:45] <rockcoco> I need a software...Can Ubuntu run iTunes?
[13:45] <wilee-nilee> bkfitz, There is #ubuntu-server as well. for the record.
[13:45] <ikonia> rockcoco: no
[13:45] <RagingAvatar> rockcoco: No, it can't. What are you trying to achieve?
[13:45] <bkfitz> wilee-nilee: this is ubuntu server
[13:46] <bkfitz> oh.. sorry
[13:46] <bkfitz> gotcha
[13:46] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[13:46] <rockcoco> oh...
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> rockcoco  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/itunes
[13:47] <powhatan> rythym box used to support some older apple devices
[13:47] <powhatan> to retrieve images
[13:47] <chrs_> any channel for chrubuntu talk?
[13:48] <chrs_> #chrubuntu is almost empty
[13:48] <ikonia> chrs_: it's nothing to do with #ubuntu, ask #freenode how to search for channels
[13:48] <rockcoco> how about iPhone?
[13:48] <powhatan> You can also use ubuntu 1 to sync images from your iphone
[13:48] <rockcoco> cool!
[13:48] <powhatan> Get the ubuntu 1 iphone app
[13:48] <powhatan> Sign up for an Ubuntu 1 account
[13:48] <powhatan> 5GB of storage
[13:48] <wilee-nilee> !enter > powhatan
[13:49] <powhatan> 500MB for every recommendation you give
[13:49] <ActionPa1snip> if itunes would port to ubuntu it would be amazing and apple would actually profit
[13:49] <roots47_> Hey all, I'm attempting to figure out some unity hot keys to make my every day life easier... and came across the "ctrl + alt + num pad" for window positioning... but I can't seem to find a way to make a window split the screen vertically similar to how ctrl alt 8 does this horizontally? (I would have expected ctrl+alt+4 and ctrl+alt+6, respectively)
[13:49] <wilee-nilee> ActionPa1snip, Heaven forbid the biggest bank account in the west.
[13:49] <rockcoco> not gone happen...
[13:50] <powhatan> sorry wilee-nilee
[13:50] <ActionPa1snip> I dont use apple products but annoyed users are a different thing
[13:51] <nenya> Allrighty
[13:51] <RagingAvatar> hey
[13:51] <bkfitz> wilee-nilee: no answers in #ubuntu-server
[13:51] <bkfitz> :(
[13:51] <BluesKaj> never understood the itunes appeal
[13:52] <nenya> wilee-nilee? what does that even mean?
[13:52] <wilee-nilee> bkfitz, It happens patience is the key word, that question might get better answers on the ubuntu forums and on research on the web
[13:53] <nenya> wilee-nilee? what does that even mean?
[13:53] <nenya> wilee-nilee? what does that even mean?
[13:53] <wilee-nilee> nenya, do you have a support isue?
[13:53] <nenya> wilee-nilee? what does that even mean?
[13:53] <FloodBot1> nenya: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:54] <roots47_> Hey all, I'm attempting to figure out some unity hot keys to make my every day life easier... and came across the "ctrl + alt + num pad" for window positioning... but I can't seem to find a way to make a window split the screen vertically similar to how ctrl alt 8 does this horizontally? (I would have expected ctrl+alt+4 and ctrl+alt+6, respectively)
[13:55] <nenya> Is there a way to run ubuntu 13.04 without unity?
[13:55] <wilee-nilee> nenya, Yes use another desktop
[13:55] <ikonia> nenya: yes, use any desktop you want
[13:55] <ikonia> nenya: you can even install ubuntu without unity, using kubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu so you don't have to change anything out of the box
[13:56] <nenya> But, the thing is, 12.04 is unity too! but i want to use 13.04 without unity
[13:56] <ikonia> nenya: re-read what I said
[13:57] <ikonia> nenya: what desktop do you want to use if you don't want unity ?
[13:57] <rockcoco> uninstall it.
[13:57] <nenya> One closest to ubuntu 13.04 without unity
[13:58] <ikonia> nenya: what desktop do you want to use if you don't want to use unity
[13:58] <rockcoco> GNOME 3 make it looks like a cellphone...
[13:59] <nenya> Kubuntu is kinda annoying, xubuntu is a annoying rat, lubuntu is way to simple for what i'm using... so is xubuntu\
[13:59] <Moe> ubottu is a  bot!
[13:59] <ikonia> nenya: so what desktop do you WANT to use
[14:00] <nenya> Gnome VER 2
[14:00] <Moe> YOU ARE A DRONE!
[14:00] <ikonia> Moe: stop it
[14:00] <curatrix> xtree gold
[14:00] <ikonia> Moe: it's an authorized bot
[14:00] <nenya> who?
[14:00] <nenya> is a drone?
[14:00] <dinomuffin> what functionality are you looking for in gnome that xfce or kde couldn't do?
[14:00] <ikonia> nenya: there is a desktop called "mate" which is a fork of the dead gnome 2 project, it's totally unsupported though
[14:01] <Moe> @$$$$$$@@
[14:01] <nenya> Microsoft word 2010
[14:01] <dinomuffin> uhhhhh
[14:01] <ikonia> nenya: please don't make random comments
[14:01] <ikonia> nenya: we are engaging your to help you - if you don't want help or want to help others please don't make comments.
[14:01] <Shadowandlight> im trying to figure out how to do a migration from a home unbuntu server to a VPS one as painlessly as possible..... http://askubuntu.com/questions/330285/migration-to-remote-installation
[14:01] <BluesKaj> openbox window manager , might be to your taste , nenya
[14:01] <OerHeks> nenya cinnamon is in the repo's too
[14:02] <nenya> Is that linux mint?
[14:02] <arche_jeff> In vi, if I want to replace ('08-08-2013' with ('08-07-2013'  how do I do that? I tried s/('08-08-2013'/('08-07-2013' but it munges the replacement. I tried s/\(... but it says the \( is unmatched
[14:03] <rockcoco> macbuntu is a good choice
[14:03] <ikonia> rockcoco: macbuntu doesn't exist
[14:03] <ikonia> rockcoco: stop making random comments such as gnome 3 makes it look like a phone and use macubuntu
[14:03] <rockcoco> ikonia,what..
[14:04] <jkoudys> on raring - I copied over my private ssh key from my old install. When I ssh it prompts me for the private key password, and that works. I used to have the private key password cached in the keychain every session so I would only have to type it in once after login, but now I have to type it in each and every time I ssh. How do I get it in my gnome keyring?
[14:10] <roots47_> Hey all, I'm attempting to figure out some unity hot keys to make my every day life easier... and came across the "ctrl + alt + num pad" for window positioning... but I can't seem to find a way to make a window split the screen vertically similar to how ctrl alt 8 does this horizontally? (I would have expected ctrl+alt+4 and ctrl+alt+6, respectively)
[14:12] <auronandace> roots47_: hold down the super key, that should show you some shortcuts
[14:14] <rockcoco> everyone,how can I add some icons to the desktop?
[14:18] <Moe> ubottu IS A DRONE!!!
[14:18] <Pici> Moe: Do you actually have an Ubuntu question or are you just randomly saying things?
[14:18] <Moe> ubottu You are a drone everyone run!
[14:28] <ninjaaa> hi, who provides sup here?
[14:28] <ikonia> ninjaaa: the whole channel
[14:29] <AGUY123123> http://boards.fool.com/freemasonry-this-cult-cant-question-itself-30790561.aspx?sort=whole#30818022
[14:29] <AGUY123123> http://boards.fool.com/freemasonry-this-cult-cant-question-itself-30790561.aspx?sort=whole#30818022
[14:29] <thubtumbing>  /j #ubuntu-nl
[14:30] <ninjaaa> Tell me plz how to instl skype @ xubuntu through terminal, skype doesn't execute from skype website
[14:30] <ninjaaa> if possible
[14:30] <ikonia> !skype | ninjaaa
[14:30] <ninjaaa> ty
[14:36] <raub> I put 13.04 in my laptop. one thing I found interesting is that it would connect to the wireless network I configured in network manager in my account. The kicker is that it connected while I am at the login screen, not in my account.
[14:39] <ActionPa1snip> raub: tried unloading then reloading the wifi module?
[14:39] <ActionPa1snip> raub: or any switch / shortcut to enable / disable wifi?
[14:45] <raub> ActionPa1snip: not in my account, the only one in laptop. I did notice that because I rebooted it and it just reported the wireless network connection in the login screen
[14:47] <ActionPa1snip> raub: try the unload reload
[14:58] <tux_> .
[14:58] <thecodethinker> I have a bluetooth mouse that goes to sleep automatically after a few mins to save battery but when I wake it up it doesn't reconnect to the computer. I have to turn it on discoverable for ubuntu to connect to it. On windows it just reconnects.... is there a way to get ubuntu to do that?
[15:02] <wushu> i am having some trouble with the nvidia drivers for a gtx 670 on a fresh install of 12.04. would someone be able to help me out with this?
[15:03] <ActionPa1snip> wushu: do yo uhave a switchable GPU (ivy/sandybridge Intel CPU)
[15:03] <rhumbot> hi all, i was wondering if there is a program to bring back 3 finger window movement?
[15:04] <ActionPa1snip> wushu: sudo lshw -C display
[15:04] <wushu> ActionPa1snip: my cpu is an i7 3820 3.6 ghz
[15:05] <ActionPa1snip> wushu: cool, no Intel GPU stinking the place up
[15:05] <ActionPa1snip> wushu: what is the issue
[15:05] <wushu> ActionPa1snip: PCI (sysfs) - lshw output
[15:05] <ActionPa1snip> wushu: your pci bus is slow, wait a bit
[15:06] <wushu> ActionPa1snip: ok
[15:06] <thecodethinker> I have a bluetooth mouse that goes to sleep automatically after a few mins to save battery but when I wake it up it doesn't reconnect to the computer. I have to turn it on discoverable for ubuntu to connect to it. On windows it just reconnects.... is there a way to get ubuntu to do that?
[15:06] <wushu>   *-display
[15:06] <wushu>        description: VGA compatible controller
[15:06] <wushu>        product: NVIDIA Corporation
[15:06] <wushu>        vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
[15:06] <wushu>        physical id: 0
[15:06] <FloodBot1> wushu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:06] <wushu>        bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
[15:08] <angs> I installed ubuntu on widows 8 via usb pendrive. I created swap partition and ext4 partition. I disabled secure and fast boot from the bios. but grub2 does not appear on the boot, it only boots from windows 8. Is there any one who managed to install ubuntu 13.04 on windows 8?
[15:08] <ActionPa1snip> wushu: use http://pastie.org   or similar to host the text
[15:08] <wushu> ActionPa1snip: the problem is things seem a bit choppy, like when dragging windows around its not smooth at all
[15:09] <wushu> ActionPa1snip: will use that next time sry
[15:09] <ActionPa1snip> wushu: it will give us the detail we need
[15:09] <ActionPa1snip> wushu: we didnt see the text, the bot cut it off
[15:09] <ActionPa1snip> wushu: as it should
[15:09] <wushu> ah ok 2 sec
[15:11] <wushu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5966703/
[15:11] <wilee-nilee> angs, Here is a thread on many uefi issues for you to peruse. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[15:13] <ActionPa1snip> wushu: could try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig      then reboot to test
[15:13] <wushu> ActionPa1snip: thx will try
[15:14] <thecodethinker> Is there a way to auto reconnect a mouse that turns itself after so much time? In windows as soon as I right click it comes back on a reconnects.
[15:14] <ikonia> thecodethinker: sounds like that maybe a propritary driver function
[15:14] <ikonia> thecodethinker: does the mouse actually power back on with a right click, or just re-connect
[15:15] <thecodethinker> ikonia: it goes into a kind of sleep mode i think. the power light is completly off and when I click it turns on
[15:15] <ikonia> thecodethinker: ok, so that functionality should not change with your OS, the thing that may change is the reconnect if thats a driver function
[15:16] <ikonia> thecodethinker: right clicking should power it back on, as thats nothing to do with the OS
[15:16] <thecodethinker> ikonia: I know... it still does that.
[15:16] <thecodethinker> ikonia: it's the auto reconnecting.... I need to se the mouse to discoverable
[15:17] <ikonia> thecodethinker: that sounds like it's going to be a function of the driver,
[15:17] <thecodethinker> even if I switch the connection setting to on it won't work unless it's discoverable
[15:17] <thecodethinker> ikonia: that might be it... it's a razer orochi
[15:18] <thecodethinker> ikonia: I don't recall installing the driver in windows though....
[15:18] <thecodethinker> ikonia: I've only had this box for a week.....
[15:18] <Puma1337> i'm having an issue right now on a server where the load is 52 but looking at htop i can't see anything that would be causing it to behave that way.  any pointers?
[15:18] <thecodethinker> ikonia: is there something like wine that would work for drivers like the razer one?
[15:19] <ikonia> Puma1337: what does top show ?
[15:19] <ikonia> thecodethinker: nah
[15:19] <thecodethinker> ikonia: I remember there being one for wireless drivers...
[15:19] <thecodethinker> ikonia: :'(
[15:20] <Puma1337> ikonia, http://i.imgur.com/LmlMfhr.png
[15:20] <ikonia> Puma1337: I asked for top output, but look at the load on your mysql and apache processes !
[15:20] <ikonia> Puma1337: they are very busy
[15:21] <wibrt> does anyone know of program to create a live cd based upon the OS that is running (and thus? from that OS)
[15:21] <Sazpaimon_> How can I make an ubuntu server have the same isntalled packages as another ubuntu server?
[15:21] <ikonia> Puma1337: unless this machine is huge, it's going to be very very busy
[15:21] <Puma1337> ikonia, where are you seeing that? it shows only 3% usage for apache
[15:21] <djiefo> How can i have permission to add games in /usr/shared/games?
[15:21] <Sazpaimon_> that is, without doing an OS clone
[15:22] <ikonia> Puma1337: you have no ram left
[15:22] <djiefo> I mean games that already installed... I just want to move it
[15:22] <ikonia> Puma1337: look at the top line !
[15:22] <ActionPa1snip> djiefo: gksudo nautilus      and you can put files where you wish
[15:22] <wibrt> ikonia: quick way, look for get and set-selections of apt-get
[15:22] <ikonia> vila: what ?
[15:22] <Dozy> wibrt: you are talking about turning the ubuntu your using into a live CD? so same app's and everything?
[15:22] <djiefo> ActionPa1snip,  thx :)
[15:22] <Puma1337> ikonia, i know that but based on the processes i don't see what is taking the memory do you?
[15:22] <ikonia> Puma1337: apache and mysqld are killing your machine
[15:22] <wibrt> yes Dozy
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> wibrt  there used to be remastersys, not sure if it's still being maintained
[15:23] <Dozy> ok the issue you will run into is that the linux kernel won't support over 4G
[15:23] <Puma1337> ikonia, any way to figure out why?
[15:23] <Dozy> and Remastersys is your only option
[15:23] <angs> when I download ubuntu 13.04, the file name is ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso .does amd represents the processor? Is there a special iso file for intel i7 as well?
[15:23] <ikonia> Puma1337: checking the logs ?
[15:23] <ActionPa1snip> wibrt: you can make your own ubuntu based distro using a chroot and can even run updates etc
[15:23] <Dozy> needs to be an os of less than 4G's
[15:23] <daftykins> angs: no it works for both, amd64 means all 64-bit
[15:23] <ActionPa1snip> angs: amd64 will run on intel 64bit too
[15:24] <Puma1337> ikonia, trying but waiting for apache to restart
[15:24] <ActionPa1snip> angs: the name just stuck as amd were first to widespread 64bit desktop cpu
[15:24] <ikonia> Puma1337: do not restart it until you have an idea of the problem
[15:24] <ActionPa1snip> angs: t just stuck
[15:24] <ikonia> Puma1337: you may have been exploited and your starting the exploit again
[15:24] <angs> ok I see, thanks
[15:24] <wibrt> i know, i was just wondering if there was quick way (remastersys doenst seem to be in the repo at first sight)
[15:25] <Puma1337> ikonia, it has already restarted i sent the commands a while ago -- the server is now functional again
[15:25] <Dozy> when I looked into it Remastersys was the only option I could find.
[15:26] <ActionPa1snip> wibrt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeDistroHowto
[15:26] <ikonia> Puma1337: that dosn't change what I've suggested
[15:26] <Puma1337> ikonia, which logs do you suggest i look at?
[15:26] <ActionPa1snip> wibrt: http://alllinuxstuff.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/five-tools-to-build-your-own-ubuntu.html
[15:26] <dnivra> Hello! I was wondering if the fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pyopencl/+bug/763457 will be backported to the latest LTS release?
[15:26] <ikonia> Puma1337: come on ???
[15:26] <ikonia> Puma1337: you're running this server, do you not have any clue how you've set it up /
[15:27] <Puma1337> ikonia, i know how i've set it up i'm looking at the apache error and mysql logs but i'm not sure what is causing this to happen
[15:27] <ActionPa1snip> dnivra: is there not a PPA?
[15:27] <ikonia> Puma1337: look at the load, it wasn't "errors" it was "access"
[15:27] <ikonia> Puma1337: hence why I'm suggesting you shut it down quickly as you may have been compromised
[15:28] <Puma1337> ikonia, i do see this in the apache error log when the issue started this morning [Fri Aug 09 11:04:17 2013] [error] server reached MaxClients setting, consider raising the MaxClients setting
[15:28] <ikonia> Puma1337: come in !!!!! "max clients" = "too many people accessing" = exactly what I've just said "access" not "errors" you may have been compromised/attacked
[15:30] <wiehan> what should the default permission for /home be and then for /home/user respectively, answer may be expressed as octal values ie 755 etc
[15:30] <dnivra> ActionPa1snip: There are 3 - one supports Python 3(I'd like Python 2 since I'm not sure of numpy status in python 3; checking now), the other is for natty and the third has an nvidia package which I'm suspecting will cause issues again.
[15:30] <ikonia> wiehan: you can actually set it to what you want however the norm is owner full control, read/execute for group and everyone else
[15:30] <BluesKaj> is there such a thing as "Updating svn" , I haven't used it in yrs , so i don't recall it's structure and usage
[15:31] <ikonia> wiehan: then individual home directs owner full control, no acceess for group/world
[15:31] <ikonia> BluesKaj: there is, svn up
[15:31] <Puma1337> ikonia, you think it was a dos?
[15:31] <ikonia> Puma1337: lets see, I've got no information to go on.....
[15:31] <ikonia> Puma1337: but I'm advising you to stop the service until you know what it was
[15:31] <BluesKaj> ikonia, thanks
[15:32] <ActionPa1snip> dnivra: then I suggest you erport a bug or post on an eisting bug stating that the issue affects you too
[15:33] <ikonia> Puma1337: I suggest you analyise the logs and you should be able to work out if it was an attack or compromised service
[15:34] <dnivra> ActionPa1snip: Alright will do. Let's hope it does get backported. Thank you!
[15:34] <Azamat> does anybody know how to get a less graphics intensive interface for ubuntu?
[15:35] <Azamat> my virtual box or hyper-v lag badly due to graphic processing
[15:35] <daftykins> Azamat: beyond using LXDE/xfce ?
[15:35] <Azamat> i dont know what that is
[15:35] <Puma1337> ikonia, ok thanks
[15:35] <Azamat> i just got ubuntu yesterday bro
[15:35] <daftykins> Azamat: they're alternative desktop environments to ubuntu's default
[15:36] <daftykins> Azamat: consider reading up on how to install them, or just download ISOs to install xubuntu / lubuntu instead
[15:36] <wiehan> how do I remove a user from a group through the cli
[15:36] <llutz> wiehan: sudo deluser username group
[15:37] <wiehan> ty llutz that doesn't rm the user right?
[15:37] <llutz> wiehan: no (man deluser)
[15:40] <don-geforcegt630> hello good evening. I need help with my fresh ubuntu 13.04 installation
[15:40] <Puma1337> ikonia, i'm looking through the apache and mysql logs.  are there any others you suggest i look through?
[15:40] <Dozy> whats the issue don-geforcegt630?
[15:41] <don-geforcegt630> i changed my resolution to 1360x768 but now it appears bigger than monitor
[15:41] <don-geforcegt630> the entire unity bar is offscreen left
[15:41] <don-geforcegt630> http://i40.tinypic.com/21443r5.jpg
[15:41] <rtfmdude> is it necessary to have a keyscript option in order to use luks authorization based on a key file for drive with mount point on / (root fs)?
[15:41] <nullsign> im proud of my new 404 error page... http://www.nullsign.com/404
[15:42] <don-geforcegt630> im using nvidia drivers 310 because the noveou wouldnt let me use 1360 resolution
[15:42] <Dozy> don-geforcegt630:  can you access the display manager?
[15:42] <don-geforcegt630> yes
[15:42] <Dozy> whats the maximum resolution your display will take?
[15:42] <Dozy> or is that what you picked?
[15:43] <don-geforcegt630> max display is 1360x768
[15:43] <Dozy> ok
[15:43] <don-geforcegt630> but thats with the nvidia drivers
[15:43] <Dozy> Have you got your Graphic Drivers installed?
[15:43] <don-geforcegt630> i used apt-get nvidia-current
[15:43] <Dozy> oh you set this via the drivers configuration?
[15:44] <don-geforcegt630> i tried setting via nvidia panel and via display settings
[15:44] <don-geforcegt630> both got me the same results
[15:44] <Dozy> hemm..
[15:44] <Dozy> have you done a restart since you installed the drivers?
[15:44] <don-geforcegt630> yes
[15:45] <don-geforcegt630> multiple times, everytime i tried to do sometime, i always restart
[15:45] <rhumbot> hi all, im still looking for a solution to be  able to use multitouch gestures (13.04) ?
[15:45] <willows> Sometimes random status messages like "Initializing video... Video Mode: 512 x 448..." will appear in terminal. Is there a way to make it so terminal (and particularly Vim) doesn't display these messages?
[15:46] <Dozy> don-geforcegt630:  what GPU?
[15:46] <don-geforcegt630> nVidia GEFORCE GT 630
[15:47] <Dozy> I always liked the 630
[15:47] <Dozy> anyway I think I found someone with the same issue as you
[15:47] <Dozy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/80324/hdmi-vga-connection-cuts-borders-of-screen-or-creates-blurry-text
[15:47] <Dozy> that is the same issue?
[15:47] <BluesKaj> don-geforcegt630, that gpu might run better with one of the experimental drivers
[15:48] <daftykins> don-geforcegt630: are you connected to a TV via HDMI?
[15:48] <don-geforcegt630> im connected to an AOC LED Monitor
[15:49] <don-geforcegt630> the link provided gives solution for tvs
[15:49] <don-geforcegt630> those options arent available in my nvidia settings
[15:49] <daftykins> don-geforcegt630: via what connection? most LCDs are 1366x768, not 1360 as you've said
[15:49] <funch> ubuntu 12.04 13.04 dont have memorytest support on livecd?
[15:49] <don-geforcegt630> VGA connection
[15:49] <BluesKaj> daftykins, that shouldn't matter , i have an entry level 8400gs connected via DVI>HDMI to our plasma tv
[15:49] <daftykins> ugh analogue
[15:50] <daftykins> BluesKaj: were it a TV using HDMI it'd be overscanning. so yeah, it would.
[15:50] <don-geforcegt630> u want me to try a DVI connection?
[15:50] <goddard> http://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/news/00_1910783.html?t=15th
[15:50] <daftykins> digital is best, yes
[15:50] <don-geforcegt630> ok ive never tried DVI. i will try agian. BRB
[15:50] <BluesKaj> don-geforcegt630, absolutely if available
[15:51] <goddard> can some one help me with this http://askubuntu.com/questions/327249/2-amd-7950s-do-not-work-in-crossfire-mode
[15:51] <BluesKaj> most tvs don't have dvi connections , but a dvi hdmi cable is probly needed here
[15:53] <goddard> anyone running AMD cards in crossfire?
[15:53] <budmang> hey guys no matter what, I cant get ubuntu to take the kernel Im giving it, I edited default= to the right number, then tried the name in quotes... nothing.
[15:53] <nullsign> are you with a cloud provider?
[15:54] <nullsign> or is this a local server?
[15:54] <nullsign> budmang: ^
[15:55] <budmang> local
[15:55] <nullsign> some cloud providers use hypervisors which set the kernel in the profile of the instance of the hypervisor, making it impossible to change after boot.
[15:55] <nullsign> ah.. nevermind then
[15:55] <nullsign> boot/setup, typo
[15:56] <budmang> nullsign: i used the number and copy/pasted the quoted text
[15:57] <bounded> hello world
[15:57] <prothon> Hey I have a question about bridge interfaces for QEMU/KVM VM's
[15:57] <nullsign> budmang: did you remove all old kernels?
[15:57] <nullsign> install new one, reboot?
[15:57] <nullsign> i mean, it should jsut work.
[15:57] <budmang> im actually trying to use an older one.
[15:57] <nullsign> ah...
[15:57] <budmang> can I just remove the lines in the boot/grub.conf?
[15:57] <nullsign> yes.
[15:58] <budmang> i ran that after etc..update-grub
[15:58] <nullsign> try this..
[15:58] <nullsign> dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge
[15:58] <Roots47_> Hey guys... any recommendations on how I could accommodate the use of my adobe creative cloud on Ubuntu?  I wouldn't be opposed to a virtual machine if that's an option, I'm just not sure where to start, or what possible solutions are out there.
[15:58] <thiebaude> prothon, what is your question?
[15:58] <nullsign> should remove all kerbels other than the one you are currently using
[15:58] <nullsign> start from there
[15:58] <nullsign> kernels/
[15:59] <nullsign> the feels.. the nostalgia... http://www.nullsign.com/404
[15:59] <nullsign> awww..
[15:59] <FloodBot1> nullsign: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:59] <Shashank_> Hi, I installed ubuntu 13.04. The brightness keys of my laptop are not working. it is always set to maximum brightness.
[15:59] <prothon> My question is after I set eth0 to manual and add in br0 using dhcp all routes break. I tried to add a default route to the gateway and it still wouldn't transverse to the WAN. THe funny thing is all VM guests are working just fine.
[16:00] <nullsign> prothon: opennebula?
[16:00] <prothon> nullsign: Am I using it? No. Just straight KVM/QEMU on my laptop. Trying to get a few test machines going.
[16:01] <don-geforce630> im back. switching to dvi does no change. still getting the offscreen resolution
[16:01] <tubbo> hey i'm having a bit of an issue, trying to ssh in as the www-data user. i copied my ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file into /var/www/.ssh, but it still asks me for a passwd when ssh'ing in
[16:01] <tubbo> using the default www-data user that comes with stock ubuntu
[16:02] <prothon> tubbo: cat /etc/passwd | grep www-data
[16:02] <z0ran> i have alix board, now, my hdd sda and i can also see sdb, is that suppose to be my CFcard
[16:02] <prothon> tubbo: At the end of that it would say /bin/something. What is that something?
[16:02] <tubbo> prothon: /bin/sh
[16:02] <tubbo> so yeah using the bourne shell
[16:02] <prothon> Ok just wanted to make sure.
[16:03] <tubbo> yeah..
[16:03] <tubbo> this was working previously but i'm not sure what i did :)
[16:03] <tubbo> re-cheffed the machine
[16:03] <tubbo> and lost what i did :P
[16:03] <prothon> I'm in the same boot.
[16:03] <don-geforce630> how do i switch from nvidia 310 to 304
[16:03] <prothon> *boat
[16:04] <auronandace> !dash | tubbo
[16:04] <edinny> Where can I put a script so that it will run LAST after boot?
[16:05] <don-geforce630> guys i really need help with this resolution problem
[16:05] <indigo_grey> hello
[16:06] <indigo_grey> is enyone speack russian&
[16:06] <indigo_grey> ?
[16:06] <Pici> !ru | indigo_grey
[16:06] <indigo_grey> !ru
[16:07] <indigo_grey> they wont registration
[16:07] <Pici> !register | indigo_grey
[16:09] <daftykins> don-geforce630: i don't really understand what you say you're seeing
[16:11] <don-geforce630> when i change to 1360x768 resolution, the the entire unity bar and top goes offscreen to the left
[16:11] <don-geforce630> its like the resolution is bigger than the screen itself
[16:11] <daftykins> don-geforce630: what's the exact display make+model?
[16:12] <don-geforce630> AOC 156LM
[16:13] <daftykins> that doesn't seem to come up with anything in searches
[16:14] <thiebaude> don-geforce630, big screen hd tv?
[16:14] <daftykins> don-geforce630: not the LM560 ?
[16:14] <thiebaude> I had the same problem with my 32inch hd tv
[16:15] <don-geforce630> no. its a 15.6-inch lcd monitor
[16:15] <thiebaude> i got the laptop hooked uo to it
[16:15] <goddard> ubuntu has to many graphics issues still
[16:15] <thiebaude> don-geforce630, ahh ok
[16:15] <thiebaude> goddard, i still cant install amd catalyst control centr on ubuntu 13.04
[16:15] <rtfmdude> is it necessary to have a keyscript option in order to use luks authorization based on a key file for drive with mount point on / (root fs)?
[16:16] <daftykins> don-geforce630: http://us.aoc.com/support/documents/pdf/documents/92 ?
[16:16] <don-geforce630> no
[16:17] <daftykins> don-geforce630: i can't find a result from the model # you gave me
[16:17] <goddard> thiebaude: thats easy
[16:17] <goddard> try crossfire
[16:18] <wiehan> I can't get it the ?permissions right for a network share so that I can write to the folder.. It's an ubuntu 12.04 server. according to the ls -l it shows: drwxr-xr-x I logged in with the user's credentials, why isn't it working? Please assist
[16:18] <goddard> thiebaude: just download the drivers from the site
[16:18] <goddard> thiebaude: make them into a package first
[16:18] <thiebaude> goddard, i have, tried everthing
[16:18] <goddard> thiebaude: i had no issues
[16:18] <thiebaude> borhed it last night, think goodnesss for older kernels
[16:18] <goddard> thiebaude: what card?
[16:18] <thiebaude> borked it
[16:18] <daftykins> wiehan: you're aware that with samba, you must create a samba password separate to the user's password?
[16:19] <thiebaude> radeon hd 4250
[16:19] <goddard> thiebaude: oh we are using a different driver
[16:19] <wiehan> daftykins, I converted the unix user to samba via webmin - and I can login with that user and access the share, but not write to it?
[16:19] <don-geforce630> here
[16:19] <don-geforce630> http://www.aocmonitorap.com/root/my/product_display.php?id=276
[16:19] <thiebaude> goddard, on ubuntu 12.04, it worked just right
[16:20] <goddard> thiebaude: the good thing is though you can just amdconfig
[16:20] <daftykins> don-geforce630: that's a bit different to the 156LM? :) ok so 1366x768 indeed. is that what you're trying to set in the nvidia settings?
[16:20] <goddard> thiebaude: i cant fix this crossfire thin at all
[16:21] <thiebaude> goddard, im using the open source drivers
[16:21] <don-geforce630> yes. but everytime i do so, via nvidia settings or display settings, it always goes offscreen
[16:21] <wiehan> I can log into a network share, have set the permissions to 755, but I can't write to it. Is it because the server is treating the samba user as a guest or "other" with no write permissions? I really need to get this write
[16:21] <thiebaude> goddard, you try the open source drivers?
[16:22] <goddard> thiebaude: those drivers work but crappy performance
[16:22] <goddard> screen tearing even
[16:22] <thiebaude> godd right now i dont have any problems
[16:22] <rtfmdude> is it necessary to have a keyscript option in order to use luks authorization based on a key file for drive with mount point on / (root fs)?
[16:22] <daftykins> don-geforce630: with DVI too? i could understand with VGA but that's just weird.
[16:23] <daftykins> don-geforce630: can you take a picture at all?
[16:23] <goddard> thiebaude: then dont get another AMD card for crossfire haha
[16:23] <don-geforce630> ok wait
[16:25] <thiebaude> goddard, i wish i had not got this, but was a birthday present
[16:25] <thiebaude> nvidia rocks on my desktop
[16:25] <thiebaude> :)
[16:25] <goddard> thiebaude: does it work in SLI?
[16:26] <indigo_grey> кто нить говорит по русски??????????
[16:26] <tekk> hey guys, quick question... when using usb ethernet adaptors... you get eth0, eth1, eth2 etc
[16:26] <goddard> no kto Hntb
[16:26] <tekk> when i unplug one from my system... and remove all adaptors... the eth0 is still not removed
[16:26] <don-geforce630> basically the screenshot is perfect since the output's the problem. but from my view, it would look like this on the screen. http://i43.tinypic.com/er0jzk.jpg
[16:26] <tekk> how can i "flush" this device cache
[16:27] <daftykins> don-geforce630: right but you're picking 136_0_ not 1366?
[16:27] <don-geforce630> there is no 1366 option
[16:27] <thiebaude> goddard, the amd?
[16:27] <indigo_grey> тоесть все немцы?
[16:27] <daftykins> don-geforce630: i'd definitely try another driver version if you can then
[16:27] <ikonia> tekk: removed from where ?
[16:27] <don-geforce630> how do i switch from nvidia 310 to 304?
[16:28] <goddard> thiebaude: nah your Nvidia
[16:28] <don-geforce630> i just used apt-get nvidia-current
[16:28] <daftykins> don-geforce630: if you run the additional drivers program it should give you a choice
[16:28] <thiebaude> goddard, yea, no problem at all, im using the proprietary drivers from nvidia
[16:28] <nullsign> don: take knife, cut off 6mm of the gpu
[16:28] <thiebaude> on the desktop that is
[16:28] <goddard> thiebaude: yeah i would buy nvidia had i know this was gonna be an issue
[16:29] <tekk> somewhere in the system (udev or somewhere i dunno) its maintaining a cache of previous ethernet nics
[16:29] <thiebaude> goddard, its ok, just no hdmi sound on the big tv, throught the laptop and no default resolution
[16:30] <daftykins> don-geforce630: so i assume you're in 13.04, run system settings on the left, then click 'Software and updates' and move to the 'Additional Drivers' tab
[16:30] <thiebaude> 1280 by 720 is my max with it hooke up to the tv hooked
[16:31] <thiebaude> hooked up
[16:33] <Nlck> hello
[16:33] <daftykins> hi
[16:34] <Nlck> daftykins how do i change my host?
[16:34] <wiehan> I need help with samba shares, I have a network folder which I can access. Locally I've set up the folder to have permissions of 755. The folder supposedly has guest write access even, but I can't seem to write to the folder
[16:34] <daftykins> Nlck: the name of your computer?
[16:39] <don-geforce630_> im back, tried switching to several nvidia drivers. no luck
[16:39] <Guest74987> hi friends
[16:40] <daftykins> don-geforce630_: still only getting offered 1360 and not 1366?
[16:40] <don-geforce630_> yes
[16:40] <daftykins> still on VGA or DVI?
[16:40] <goddard> do high resolution monitors work in ubuntu?
[16:40] <daftykins> goddard: define high-res
[16:41] <don-geforce630_> im on DVI
[16:41] <sgarg> Hi, I installed ubuntu 13.04. I am facing issues with screen brightness. I can't change brightness using the keyboard. Even the slider at brightness and lock doesn't work, The brightness is set to maximum.
[16:41] <goddard> daftykins: higher then 1080
[16:41] <don-geforce630_> i think the problem is that it cant detect my monitor properly
[16:41] <daftykins> don-geforce630_: yeah seems like it
[16:41] <don-geforce630_> its showing "Unknown" in All Settings->Display
[16:41] <don-geforce630_> and CRT-0 on nvidia settings
[16:41] <daftykins> don-geforce630_: can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[16:42] <Mace268> can someone point me to where i change the samba workgroup name in 13.04?
[16:42] <daftykins> it thinks it's a CRT? 0o
[16:42] <Guest74987> i'm deciding if i should switch a Windows computer to Ubuntu, but I heard people experience a lot of driver issues so i need to know if there is good support for Lexmark multifunction printers, a Radeon HD 3450 graphics card and an ATI TV Wonder PCI card. thanks
[16:42] <daftykins> Mace268: samba config, you're going to need to do some reading up instead of asking for answers to be handed to you i'm afraid.
[16:42] <ikonia> Mace268: in the smb.conf
[16:42] <Guest74987> sgarg, fix the brightness on your monitor
[16:43] <goddard> reading text and reading questions in IRC is so different
[16:43] <Guest74987> they usually have physical buttons
[16:43] <don-geforce630_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5966955/
[16:43] <Mace268> thanks google was telling me to get system-config-samba and it errored on me.
[16:43] <ikonia> Mace268: thats a redhat tool
[16:43] <daftykins> Guest74987: you'll need to look up the printer model for support, the graphics card won't be supported by AMD's proprietary fglrx driver, so you'll need to confirm support with the open source 'radeon' driver. as for the TV card - no idea
[16:44] <daftykins> don-geforce630_: you'll want to remove 'nomodeset' from your kernel boot parameter
[16:44] <sgarg> I am using dell laptop. so can't do that.
[16:44] <don-geforce630_> if i do that, it'll send a out of bounds signal to my monitor and the screen will just die
[16:45] <daftykins> don-geforce630_: are you sure it doesn't cause problems for nouveau only - not the nvidia driver?
[16:46] <foobArrr> if I don't have a network connection, e.g. because the network cable is unplugged, Ubuntu waits about two minutes at boot saying "Waiting for network configuration" and "Waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration". 1) why does it do that? 2) how do I prevent that? (Ubuntu 12.04)
[16:46] <don-geforce630_> what do you mean? I havent been using the noveau drivers since it does go up 1024
[16:46] <ikonia> foobArrr: it's trying to get a dhcp address, that's what it's waiting for
[16:46] <ikonia> foobArrr: disable networking, or change the dhcp time out
[16:47] <daftykins> don-geforce630_: what i mean is, people tend to add 'nomodeset' when the GUI doesn't work at all, so i'm wondering whether you added it after installing the nvidia driver or not
[16:47] <daftykins> don-geforce630_: it's definitely not reading the info from your screen.
[16:47] <don-geforce630_> i added it before the install
[16:47] <don-geforce630_> ill remove it and reboot
[16:48] <sgarg> I am using dell laptop. so can't do that.
[16:48] <holstein> sgarg: cant do what?
[16:49] <holstein> Guest74987: you can try ubuntu live, and see how the hardware support is for you particular devices
[16:50] <don-geforce> ok. removed nomodeset, no change
[16:51] <ActionPa1snip> don-geforce: tried:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[16:51] <Guest74987> holstein, can i install the drivers while using the live CD?
[16:51] <daftykins> ActionPa1snip: i find it weird don-geforce's setup is labelling his DVI attached display as a CRT still :S
[16:51] <holstein> Guest74987: linux is not like windows.. most drivers are included in the kernel.. the kernel is "modular".. most things "just work" out of the box.. if not, some things can be installed LIVE, and some will be more challenging
[16:52] <holstein> Guest74987: you should be able to get a good sense of how challenging it might be to migrate your particular hardware to linux without commercial support such as the support you have for windws
[16:52] <holstein> windows*
[16:52] <don-geforce> so u want me to revert back to nouveau drivers?
[16:53] <rtfmdude> i'm suffering lacking support in my situation, but now it got worse, i don't get it how can i format the question on askubuntu so it wouldn't be a nightmare with config contents listings lol
[16:53] <holstein> don-geforce: i would try the open ones, the proprietary ones in the repo, and the ones from the site. i would try and refer to potentially helpful steam documentation... i would try teh 12.04 LTS version
[16:54] <ikonia> rtfmdude: what do you mean a lack of support ?
[16:54] <holstein> rtfmdude: what are the details of your situation?
[16:54] <holstein> rtfmdude: if yu are asking "how tdo i ask my quesiton".. here or on askubuntu, use as much detail as possible
[16:54] <rtfmdude> i'm having problem switching passphrase luks authorization to key file based for rootfs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18
[16:55] <ikonia> rtfmdude: are you n0pxn0p on launchpad ?
[16:55] <rtfmdude> ikonia, sometimes
[16:56] <ikonia> rtfmdude: could you just answer clearly please.
[16:56] <ikonia> rtfmdude: rather than stupid responses to clear questions
[16:56] <ikonia> rtfmdude: are you n0pxn0p ?
[16:56] <rtfmdude> ikonia, yep
[16:56] <ikonia> rtfmdude: right, so this is your actual question / details, not someone elses
[16:56] <rtfmdude> ikonia, exactly
[16:57] <rtfmdude> ikonia, i thought that filing a new bug report is a bad idea due to the fact some things are still unclear to me =)
[16:57] <hrolf> Anyone?
[16:57] <hrolf> How to block netcut ARP spoofing on linux?
[16:57] <ikonia> hrolf: saying anyone is pointless
[16:58] <ikonia> rtfmdude: as I'm reading that, it's just skipping adding he key to the initramfs ?
[16:58] <holstein> hrolf: i would try a security channel.. what are you doing to allow that to happen?
[16:58] <ikonia> rtfmdude: is that your understanding of what's happening
[16:58] <hrolf> holstein: I'm on LAN someone is using arcai netcut and cutting off Internet browsing access
[16:58] <rtfmdude> ikonia, it pops-up the warning and it happens over cryptroot hook and i can't see what is the reason it doesn't work the same as it works for sdb device
[16:58] <holstein> hrolf: someone? is this your home network?
[16:59] <ikonia> rtfmdude: ah, I see what you mean, it's adding it for sdb, but ignoring the key for sda when it tries to add it
[17:00] <hrolf> holstein: Well the place where I'm we get Internet through LAN
[17:00] <ikonia> hrolf: is the place education/work/home/
[17:00] <ikonia> hrolf: what network is this ?
[17:00] <hrolf> ikonia: home
[17:00] <rtfmdude> ikonia, exactly! i also tried to gather all moments which are unclear to me http://paste.ubuntu.com/5967000/
[17:00] <ikonia> hrolf: so you control it then
[17:00] <ikonia> hrolf: as in the network
[17:00] <hrolf> ikonia: Nope I cannot
[17:01] <ikonia> hrolf: why not ?
[17:01] <hrolf> That's the problem
[17:01] <hrolf> ikonia: I'm just a user
[17:01] <holstein> hrolf: i would alert the adminsitrator
[17:01] <ikonia> hrolf: if it's your home network, why can you not control it
[17:01] <hrolf> ikonia: Network is not mine, I just got a connection to use Internet
[17:01] <ikonia> rtfmdude: interesting, I'll need to have a prod around as I'm very rustry with luks (I don't use it personally as I find it a disaster)
[17:01] <ikonia> hrolf: then it's not a home network
[17:01] <hrolf> holstein: the admin is not capable enough to debug
[17:01] <ikonia> hrolf: what type of network is it ?
[17:01] <hrolf> ikonia: It is LAN
[17:02] <rtfmdude> ikonia, thank you for attention
[17:02] <ikonia> hrolf: yes, but who controls it, is it a school an office etc
[17:02] <ikonia> rtfmdude: looks a bit interesting, lets see what can be found,
[17:02] <hrolf> ikonia: the one who gives Internet in my place
[17:02] <holstein> hrolf: you will always have issues on an unsafe network like that.. if you are asking "how ca i be safe on an unsafe network?".. i would go to a safe network.. otherwise, try firewalls and other security measures
[17:02] <ikonia> hrolf: what is "your place" a school, an office,
[17:02] <hrolf> ikonia: It is like he got one connection, and than installed a router and gives everyone otther
[17:02] <hrolf> ikonia: for using on a low price
[17:03] <hrolf> ikonia: Home
[17:03] <ikonia> hrolf: how many people are using this ?
[17:03] <hrolf> ikonia: Around 15 to 20 (rough figure(
[17:03] <hrolf> )
[17:03] <ikonia> seems an odd "home" network with 15 - 20 people using his
[17:04] <ikonia> I'd talk to the administrator to block the mac address of the device
[17:04] <hrolf> ikonia: The admin is not capable enough
[17:04] <ikonia> hrolf: then he needs to get capable
[17:05] <holstein> hrolf: then, i would seek another network.. you will always have issues there
[17:05] <hrolf> ikonia: Not possible
[17:05] <hrolf> that's the issue
[17:05] <ikonia> hrolf: is this one place, eg: a house ?
[17:05] <hrolf> ikonia: Yes, my home.
[17:05] <ikonia> hrolf: so walk to the router, unplug each cable until you find the device spoofing
[17:05] <ikonia> hrolf: then follow that cable to the person
[17:06] <ikonia> hrolf: then kick them off the network / tell them not to do it
[17:06] <hrolf> ikonia: Is there any tool which let's say tracks the packets and determines the spoofing device?
[17:07] <ikonia> hrolf: tcpdump
[17:07] <ikonia> hrolf: but you'll find what I've just suggested easier
[17:07] <ikonia> hrolf: walk to the switch, unplug cables one at a time
[17:07] <ikonia> hrolf: monitor it on your ubuntu desktop
[17:07] <ikonia> hrolf: then when you see the spoofing stop, follow the cable to the person doing it
[17:08] <don-geforce> ok so i reverted back to X.org server - Nouveau drivers and now my max display resolution is 1024x768. Anyway to force it 1366x768?
[17:08] <hrolf> ikonia: How do I tell if spoofing has been stopped?
[17:08] <ikonia> hrolf: how can you see someone is spoofing ?
[17:08] <daftykins> don-geforce: you could play with xrandr
[17:08] <holstein> don-geforce: maybe not.. though, i have had good luck with custom xorg.conf files.. sometimes i try arandr, a GUI tool.. or i'll try a knoppix live CD and grab the xorg.conf from there
[17:09] <don-geforce> holstein, seems a bit complicated for me. Im just trying out ubuntu for the first time
[17:09] <hrolf> ikonia: My main machine internet stops, I start a WINDOWS VM, there I have netcut installed and I cut all the people in network and then my internet starts working in the VM
[17:10] <Archguy> who knows how to use libfvde here? http://ix.io/7a7
[17:10] <ikonia> hrolf: that doesn't sound like someone is spoofing, that sounds like you are kicking everyone off the network
[17:10] <holstein> don-geforce: sure.. keep in mind it would ideally be, just like in windows, the hardware manufacturer's responsibilty to support the OS you are choosing.. some devices can be quite tricky, or not work well at all
[17:10] <ikonia> hrolf: it could be something as simple as an IP address conflict, or a lack of IP addresses in the DHCP pool
[17:10] <hrolf> ikonia: what netcut does it cuts off internet by ARP spoofing
[17:11] <ikonia> hrolf: so ?
[17:11] <ikonia> hrolf: you're arp spoofing, that doesn't mean anyone else is
[17:11] <hrolf> ikonia: but when I cut off everyone else, then my internet starts working
[17:11] <holstein> don-geforce: you can always just use something like xubuntu or lubuntu that doesnt require 3d, and even use the vesa driver.. or use linux in VM in windows.. or keep trying live CD's til something "works" and make a note of the kernel version (or ask the manufacturer for support, which wont go well)
[17:11] <ikonia> hrolf: yes, I understand that,
[17:11] <ikonia> hrolf: but that doesn't mean someone is spoofing
[17:11] <don-geforce> so basically its my monitor's fault
[17:12] <hrolf> ikonia: What does that mean then?
[17:12] <holstein> don-geforce: its no one or nothings "fault".. im proposing, based on past experience, and what you are stating, that its a graphics card driver support issue
[17:12] <ikonia> hrolf: you need to work with the network administrator,
[17:12] <rtfmdude> lol i still don't get it how should i format the question on askubuntu the way it wouldn't look like nightmare it shouldn't be that complicated, guys loool
[17:13] <Phoenixz> Hello, I'm a webdev, and on my development computer, this morning, I got a mysql update. I applied it, and it failed, and now I am without mysql database server, and so I cannot work :( Checked mysql error log, got this beauty: ERROR: 1064  You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'ALTER TABLE user ADD column Show_view_priv enum('N','Y') CHARACTER SET utf8 NOT ' at
[17:13] <Phoenixz> line 1
[17:13] <Phoenixz> That lead me to this page: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.1/+bug/776226  seems a very old bug that is back (see the last comment)
[17:14] <Phoenixz> Anybody who might know how I can fix this quickly? I'm at a complete stop and I don't really want to have to reinstall my computer from scratch
[17:14] <holstein> Phoenixz: are you using a PPA? or a custom version?
[17:14] <rtfmdude> Phoenixz, why not mariadb?
[17:14] <ikonia> rtfmdude: it's not been transitioned yet in ubuntu
[17:14] <BlackHarvest> Is there a way to configure ubuntu to use the dual finger scrolling like you would on windows or macos?
[17:14] <rtfmdude> oh
[17:14] <daftykins> don-geforce: arandr looks like a good idea, give it a try
[17:14] <holstein> BlackHarvest: i click "use 2 finger scrolling" on hardware that supports that easily
[17:15] <don-geforce> will try arandr now
[17:15] <Phoenixz> rtfmdude: Mariadb is another product, I need mysql
[17:15] <ikonia> Phoenixz: mariadb is mysql
[17:15] <rtfmdude> got it
[17:15] <holstein> Phoenixz: and, you are not using any outside sources?
[17:15] <Phoenixz> holstein: Not using PPA afaik, but I'll confirm
[17:16] <holstein> if you think it was the update that broke it, you can roll it back and test
[17:16] <ikonia> that won't fix it
[17:16] <Phoenixz> holstein: Only configured external software sources are for cassandra related product
[17:16] <ikonia> if a table is in a flux state as it's not been altered correctly
[17:17]  * holstein defers to ikonia on sql matter
[17:17] <Phoenixz> holstein: well, I had mysql before the update, no longer after the update failed so yeah :) How would I roll it back? I already tried purging and reinstalling, to no avail
[17:17] <rtfmdude> srsly what the kind of hell is that, i don't really get support here, i can't just ask the question on askubuntu without formatiing nightmare, i can't get answers on launchpad, and i can't trust to hacked ubuntuforums in order to register there :D
[17:17] <ikonia> Phoenixz: that won't help if your table has not been altered correctly as the datasource isn't deleted
[17:18] <ikonia> rtfmdude: can you stop complaining about askubuntu
[17:18] <holstein> !volunteers | rtfmdude
[17:18] <ikonia> rtfmdude: I'm trying to help you but I'm getting really annoyed with your constant complaining
[17:18] <rtfmdude> ikonia, i can't but it wouldn't change the facts :D
[17:18] <rtfmdude> cn*
[17:18] <rtfmdude> can*
[17:18] <Phoenixz> ikonia: okay, so what would be best step from here?
[17:18] <ikonia> rtfmdude: good luck sorting your problem then, I've just lost interest
[17:18] <rtfmdude> lol just now or 3 days ago?
[17:18] <rtfmdude> LOL
[17:19] <rtfmdude> doubt u had it
[17:19] <ikonia> Phoenixz: a good question, a good test would be to start mysql with the --skip-grant-tables option, see if it's the permissions table thats damaged (long shot)
[17:19] <Phoenixz> rtfmdude: way to treat volunteers that try to help you..
[17:19] <gordonjcp> rtfmdude: did you actually have an Ubuntu support question?
[17:19] <ikonia> Phoenixz: basically you need to work through what's corrupted/inconsisant and either fix it or recover it
[17:19] <michele> hi there. I'm trying to install ncdu. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ncdu&searchon=names&suite=raring&section=all - however, apt-get does not find it. http://pastie.org/8222288 . how come? thanks
[17:19] <rtfmdude> no, im jsut another troll sorry dudes
[17:20] <ikonia> rtfmdude: final warning - stop messing around in here
[17:20] <Phoenixz> ikonia: I read somewhere that I'd need to purge mysql-common package, but half my system depends on that, I would end up with nothing left :)
[17:20] <Phoenixz> ikonia: trying your suggestion, one sec
[17:20] <BlackHarvest> Hmm, when I go into  my system settings and change the scroll speed for my touch pad, it doesn't save the changes.  Any idea why this might be?
[17:20] <ikonia> Phoenixz: well, I think I have a "clean" solution for you, but it's going to require some effort and care,
[17:20] <ikonia> Phoenixz: I suggest we go through it - plan it and execute it
[17:20] <BlackHarvest> cursor speed*
[17:21] <ikonia> Phoenixz: (or do you want to try to fix the damage rather than recover)
[17:21] <Phoenixz> ikonia: yay, I'm in! :)
[17:21] <Phoenixz> well, I want my mysql DB to run smoothly again
[17:22] <Phoenixz> I guess I could run mysqlcheck now?
[17:22] <ikonia> Phoenixz: what did you do to get in ?
[17:22] <Phoenixz> I did sudo mysqld --skip-grant-tables
[17:22] <ikonia> ok, so the grants table got screwed
[17:22] <Phoenixz> then on another console mysql -p and I got in the mysql server
[17:22] <Phoenixz> yezzz :)
[17:22] <ikonia> that's a bit of luck
[17:22] <ikonia> ok, so what you need to do is re-create the grants
[17:22] <Phoenixz> well, that happy face is not really happy yet, but lets just say this is better than I've had in the last 2 hours..
[17:22] <ikonia> that should be enough to then start it without the --skip-grants-table
[17:23] <ikonia> Phoenixz: what you should do is quickly tabke mysql dumps of your personal databases
[17:23] <ikonia> Phoenixz: eg: mysqldump on your databses to get backups we can use to import later if we need them
[17:23] <Phoenixz> okay... that would take a while, I have several gigs worth :) but good idea
[17:24] <Phoenixz> ikonia: How would I recreate the grants?
[17:24] <ikonia> Phoenixz: so depends if the tables actually screwed up, or just the data,
[17:24] <ikonia> Phoenixz: the "grant" command is the obvious one
[17:24] <Phoenixz> ikonia: I'd have to do that for all users
[17:24] <Phoenixz> ok
[17:24] <ikonia> Phoenixz: I'll have to research the table structure I think it's going to be a combination in the of "user,db and host" tables in the mysql database
[17:25] <Phoenixz> ikonia: crazy idea maybe but.. what if..
[17:25] <Phoenixz> a) move /var/lib/mysql out of the way
[17:26] <Phoenixz> b) reinstall mysql all the way, c)dump mysql DB to SQL file, d) move my old DB's back, d) start mysql with skip grants, then e) mysql  < myexportedmysql.sql file?
[17:26] <don-geforce> "xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default"
[17:26] <don-geforce> any idea how to fix this?
[17:26] <ikonia> Phoenixz: I was going to suggest the back to front version of that
[17:27] <ikonia> Phoenixz: backup your db's, re-install mysql, then import your dump files into a sane mysql instance
[17:27] <ovidiu-florin>  I have a x86_64 kubuntu host and I want to install an x86_64 ubuntu server guest, but the installer complains that the CPU is not x86_64 and that it is i686. How can I resolve this?
[17:28] <ikonia> ovidiu-florin: what virtualization are you using ?
[17:28] <ovidiu-florin> virtualbox
[17:28] <ikonia> ovidiu-florin: should work fine, you've set the guest to be x86_64 ?
[17:28] <ikonia> ovidiu-florin: ( I mean when you configured the virtual tin you set it to x86_64)
[17:29] <ovidiu-florin> how do I set it to be x86_64?
[17:29] <ikonia> !virtualbox | ovidiu-florin
[17:29] <keyboord> I have ubuntu installed, but want to (temporarily) install win8 and then install ubuntu again after win8 is loaded, but I can't get my system to boot off the cdrom/dvd disc. Please advise.
[17:29] <ovidiu-florin> I know what it is
[17:29] <ovidiu-florin> but I don't understand your question
[17:30] <ikonia> ovidiu-florin: if you read the link, it details how to use it
[17:30] <Phoenixz> ikonia: okay, that will take a little :) Thanks for the help!
[17:30] <ikonia> Phoenixz: not a problem
[17:34] <michele> hi there. I'm trying to install ncdu. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ncdu&searchon=names&suite=raring&section=all - however, apt-get does not find it. http://pastie.org/pastes/8222288/text . how come? thanks
[17:35] <daftykins> michele: you could try changing your apt mirror, in system settings -> software and sources
[17:35] <Pici> michele: What does the output of  arch  say?
[17:35] <daftykins> michele: i have seen an issue where a user's chosen mirror was missing important packages
[17:35] <Pici> daftykins: thats the main archive.
[17:36] <daftykins> Pici: how do you mean? as in the link is pointing to the main one?
[17:36] <Pici> daftykins: that pastebin says "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/"
[17:37] <daftykins> Pici: my bad, didn't even see that in the original post.
[17:38] <michele> Pici: i386
[17:38] <michele> Pici: i686
[17:38] <simone> +1
[17:38] <michele> daftykins: how do i change mirror while not using X ?
[17:39] <michele> it's a server
[17:39] <daftykins> michele: nevermind i think my approach was wrong, sorry.
[17:39] <Pici> michele: and what about: uname -a
[17:39] <myugetsu> hahaha
[17:40] <michele> Linux yankee 3.8.0-26-generic #38-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 17 21:46:08 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[17:40] <flipper88_fl> isn't i686 the newer name for the old i386 chips?
[17:41] <Pici> michele: does apt-cache showsrc ncdu   report anything>?
[17:41] <michele> Pici: yes it shows the package source
[17:42] <Pici> michele: and apt-cache show ncdu   still shows nothing?
[17:42] <myugetsu> how does a  person configure apache to sendmail from the localhost
[17:43] <michele> N: Unable to locate package ncdu
[17:44] <ActionPa1snip> !info ncdu
[17:44] <ActionPa1snip> michele: do you have universe repo enabled?
[17:44] <ActionPa1snip> myugetsu: I'd ask in the apache channel too
[17:44] <michele> yes ActionPa1snip http://pastie.org/pastes/8222288/text
[17:45] <ActionPa1snip> michele: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ncdu
[17:45] <michele> Reading state information... Done
[17:45] <michele> E: Unable to locate package ncdu
[17:45] <ActionPa1snip> flipper88_fl: i686 has a lot more funcionality than i386
[17:46] <ActionPa1snip> michele: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[17:46] <flipper88_fl> Thanks ActionPa1snip
[17:48] <flipper88_fl> So ActionPa1snip If i understand you're proir comment i686 is basicvly and enhanced veriant of its defunct cusin I386?
[17:48] <lynxy> hi
[17:49] <simone> ciao
[17:49] <lynxy> can I maximize a process (gui) if it is minimized and have no SysTray (Ubuntu 13.04)?
[17:50] <flipper88_fl> I userally just run amd64 bit releases as most newer desk/lpatops have 64bit cup and over 8gb of ram
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> lynxy, You have the left panel.
[17:51] <lynxy> the process is not there :(
[17:51] <Phoenixz> ikonia: Ok, I dumped all tables, removed /var/lib/mysql completely, sudo apt-get purge mysql-server mysql-server-5.5, then sudo apt-get install mysql-server, and it fails again.. In the error log I see this error: ERROR: 1050  Table 'plugin' already exists
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> lynxy, you remove it?
[17:51] <lynxy> it was ment to work with SysTray...
[17:51] <lynxy> no
[17:51] <Phoenixz> The /var/lib/mysql is gone, what more could there exist?
[17:51] <flipper88_fl> does sshfs support tcp keep alives?
[17:52] <lynxy> I'm talking about Bitdefender Scanner for Unices
[17:52] <lynxy> if I minimize it I can't open it
[17:52] <lynxy> is there a terminal command?
[17:52] <michele> ActionPa1snip: now i manage to install it
[17:52] <michele> ActionPa1snip: so what was wrong?
[17:53] <michele> thank you very much
[17:53] <ServerSage> Is it possible to convert an existing RAID 0 mirror to an LVM mirror?
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> lynxy, Is this the unity desktop and is it missing all the features?
[17:53] <Phoenixz> ikonia: when I try apt-get again, I get the same error as before, so I guess this was the original error where it borked up when I updated.. Any idea where this "plugin" table is created that already exists?
[17:54] <ServerSage> Oops, I meant RAID 1.  :)
[17:54] <Berto> Hi - I have a file named -C= and cannot delete it.  What is this??
[17:54] <Berto> srwxr-xr-x 1 root      root        0 Jul 23 18:05 -C=
[17:54] <rtfmdude> flipper88_fl, i always thought it already has it performing some kind of operations in background, most probably i'm wrong
[17:55] <ServerSage> Berto: Try using \ to escape the - in the name.
[17:55] <lynxy> This is the Unity desktop and can't activate Systray Whitelist :(
[17:55] <ServerSage> Berto: rm \-C=
[17:55] <irssi-mike> !ubuntu one
[17:55] <Phoenixz> ikonia: looks like the ubuntu package is broken.. it creates the /var/lib/mysql, creates mysql DB in there and then tries to create the "plugin" table twice in that DB... this is... *sigh*
[17:55] <Berto> ServerSage, rm: invalid option -- 'C'
[17:55] <lynxy> The other features are working fine, as far as I can see
[17:55] <rtfmdude> flipper88_fl, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS#Keep_Alive !
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> lynxy, http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/how-to-get-systray-whitelist-back-in.html
[17:56] <Berto> ServerSage, sudo rm -- -C   worked :)
[17:56] <tubbo> hi all, i'm trying to connect as my www-data user remotely via ssh and passwordless key authentication
[17:56] <tubbo> i've edited my authorized_keys file in /var/www/.ssh/authorized_keys to include my key but i still get prompted for a password
[17:56] <tubbo> even when switching the shell to /bin/bash
[17:56] <BlackHarvest> Hey all, I'm having an issue where Ubuntu is not recognizing my touchpad in mouse settings... The touchpad is AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint, does anyone know where I can find a driver for this?
[17:57] <Archguy> Can anyone help me with "Obtaining EncryptedRoot.plist.wipekey" from https://code.google.com/p/libfvde/wiki/Mounting ?
[17:57] <rtfmdude> having www-data login shell is insecure
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> BlackHarvest, What release?
[17:58] <BlackHarvest> wilee-nilee: 13.04
[17:58] <tubbo> rtfmdude: i know, i like to live dangerously :P
[17:58] <tubbo> rtfmdude: this is a dev box that doesn't have actual internet access
[17:59] <rtfmdude> tubbo, lol, but no ideas realted to why it still asks for pwd
[17:59] <tubbo> rtfmdude: bah
[17:59] <tubbo> this problem is clearly impossible
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> BlackHarvest, This a upgrade to 13.04?
[18:00] <tubbo> unix sucks i want windows back ;)
[18:00] <tubbo> where are my iconz!!1
[18:00] <BlackHarvest> wilee-nilee: no, this is a complete reinstall
[18:00] <Lunar_Lander> hello, I just checked software-center for skype but it isn't in there (Partner packets activated, ubuntu 12.04), what can I do?
[18:00] <BlackHarvest> wilee-nilee: you were helping me out last night with my wireless (roots47).  Was having an issue signing in as roots47_ due to already being signed in.
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> BlackHarvest, Were you plugged into the net and ticked the update bix?
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> box
[18:01] <BlackHarvest> wilee-nilee: ticked the update bix?
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> box in the install
[18:01] <BlackHarvest> wilee-nilee: no sir, couldn't get internet during install unfortunately
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> there is a update box in the install gui's
[18:01] <Archguy> Can someone please help me make sense of this: http://cl.ly/image/0s240h0t281M
[18:02] <BlackHarvest> wilee-nilee: can I run those same updates now?
[18:02] <BlackHarvest> wilee-nilee: (I already ran the ubuntu software updates)
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> BlackHarvest, I see hardly nothing on this on the net except a fresh install fixes it, however since you need a driver I suspect you need net access, and should tick the update box on the install, just a guess though.
[18:03] <Guest74987> Lunar_Lander, just go to the Skype website and download the linux version
[18:03] <wilee-nilee> BlackHarvest, Have you looked in additional drivers?
[18:03] <Lunar_Lander> ok, thanks
[18:04] <BlackHarvest> wilee-nilee: it only shows two devices, my graphics card, and that pesky broadcom chip
[18:04] <Guest74987> Lunar_Lander, http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> BlackHarvest, I see, well thats about all I can think of.
[18:04] <Lunar_Lander> thank you
[18:05] <BlackHarvest> wilee-nilee: damn, thanks anyways
[18:06] <bkfitz> Does anyone know how to restart a specific inetd service
[18:06] <bkfitz> i'm running proftpd under it
[18:06] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: you don't
[18:06] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, i guess now
[18:06] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: when you connect to inetd, it starts the service
[18:06] <bkfitz> not
[18:07] <gordonjcp> so effectively stopping all connections and reconnecting would bounce your service
[18:07] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, i'm used to init.d - don't know much about inetd
[18:07] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, so If I change a proftpd config, will it automatically 'take' the changes since the service is fired up upon connection?
[18:07] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: should do
[18:08] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: if at all possible, use sftp instead of ftp
[18:08] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, huh... doesn't seem to be, but i'll try
[18:08] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: maybe pkill proftpd
[18:08] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, :) yeah... the change i made was to only allow sftp
[18:08] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: ah, openssh just does that on its own...
[18:08] <irssi-mike> tubbo: check your pm
[18:08] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, yeah but i need ssh to run on 22 and sftp on 21
[18:09] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, separately
[18:09] <gordonjcp> but 21 is the ftp port, sftp works over port 22
[18:09] <bkfitz> gordonjcp,  you familiar with running sftp on proftpd
[18:10] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: no, I wouldn't touch an ftpd with a stolen ten foot pole
[18:10] <anshulk> hey
[18:10] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, i'm not happy about it either (i'm guessing your concerns are security based?)
[18:10] <jaapio> Hi, I'm trying to setup back-in-time to backup my home directory and some other folders. But what about file permissions? does the backup user need access to all files it has to copy?
[18:10] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, already restricted 21 access to the only ip that i'm allowing using iptables
[18:11] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: why? Just use port 22 like a normal person...
[18:11] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, so if you were me, how would you allow your developers to upload code changes
[18:11] <Lunar_Lander> Guest74987, that worked, only that the skype symbol isn't in the sidebar
[18:11] <jaapio> running back in time as root doesn't sound like an idea
[18:11] <Lunar_Lander> it is that generic application symbol
[18:11] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: what exactly are you trying to do?
[18:11] <Lunar_Lander> like a box with books in it
[18:11] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, :) i wish i could... our internal lan disallows 22 out... only 21
[18:11] <rtfmdude> bkfitz, you could configure system users for them and sftp access
[18:12] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, exactly what i'm trying
[18:12] <bkfitz> rtfmdude, exactly what i'm trying (sorry gord)
[18:12] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: can you explain what your situation is?
[18:13] <danielboston26> what is the support like for HFS+?
[18:13] <gordonjcp> danielboston26: it's okay
[18:13] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, Hosted lamp stack in the cloud for our webserver -> developers inside a huge lan I don't control  with 21 out open and 22 out closed (so I use my mifi to admin it) -> I want them to be able to upload code changes to my apache instance
[18:13] <Guest74987> Lunar_Lander, i'm not sure how to fix it, i don't use the unity interface, maybe you can right click on the icon and go to properties and change the icon to the correct one
[18:14] <Lunar_Lander> ok, thanks :)
[18:14] <danielboston26> gordonjcp is it still currputing data?
[18:14] <gordonjcp> danielboston26: not that I've noticed
[18:14] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, I guess I could configure openssh to run on 21 :)
[18:14] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: well, you need to explain to the admins for the LAN that you need them to fix it
[18:15] <danielboston26> gordonjcp been doing some research and appreantly the first implementation was currupting data on drives larger then 2tb
[18:15] <rtfmdude> bkfitz, look for tutorials/howtos like http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2012/03/chroot-sftp-setup/ no u most probably won't be able to switch sftp thing from openssh daemon on 21st port
[18:15] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: I'd get ssh going one way or another, then use something like Fabric to automate uploads
[18:15] <danielboston26> gordonjcp it said that both debian and ubuntu disabled write support for HFS+
[18:15] <gordonjcp> danielboston26: okay
[18:15] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, whats wrong with sftp
[18:15] <danielboston26> gordonjcp do you know if thats still the case?
[18:16] <gordonjcp> danielboston26: not a scooby
[18:16] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: well sftp works over ssh
[18:16] <bkfitz> rtfmdude, I thought you could run openssh on whatever port you want
[18:16] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: yes, you can, although your admins might get a bit sniffy
[18:16] <rtfmdude> bkfitz, yeah but you won't get sftp feature
[18:16] <danielboston26> gordonjcp what does that mean?
[18:16] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: hence why I'm saying you need to talk to them to unbreak the network
[18:16] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, right... so what's wrong with two ssh daemons... one for traditional ssh on 22 for traditional ssh and one on 21 for sftp
[18:17] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: it may be possible to configure it to listen on both ports
[18:17] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, openssh on 21 (traffic will look like sftp anyway)
[18:17] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: or just make it listen on some other port and use that - and make sure you specify the port
[18:17] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, only ports open to the outside are 80 and 21
[18:17] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: anyway you want to automate uploading and stuff as much as possible
[18:18] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: your network is broken, and you need to get the admins to fix it
[18:18] <bkfitz> gordonjcp :)
[18:18] <gordonjcp> bkfitz: or stop paying them for it
[18:19] <bkfitz> gordonjcp: policy to close 22 above me
[18:20] <rtfmdude> maybe ftp with ssl could be an option?
[18:20] <bkfitz> gordonjcp, but irrelevant
[18:20] <bkfitz> rtfmdude, isn't that what sftp is?
[18:20] <rtfmdude> bkfitz, not exactly
[18:20] <rtfmdude> ftps/sftp u c?
[18:21] <bkfitz> rtfmdude, doesn't it stand for ssh file transfer proto
[18:21] <rtfmdude> the second thing - yes
[18:22] <BlackHarvest> So I found this post http://linuxg.net/ubuntu-13-04-touchpad-option-does-not-exist-error-fix/ about getting my touchpad drivers installed, but I don't have a "psmouse" directory.  Is anyone familiar with configuring touchpads on ubuntu 13.04?
[18:23] <Therzo> Hi, anyone here who can help with mountall / ZFS issues?
[18:27] <priya-> hey
[18:28] <Therzo> hi
[18:29] <priya-> how do i customize ubuntu livecd
[18:30] <Therzo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[18:30] <Therzo> hope that helps
[18:30] <danielboston26> why would you want to?
[18:31] <priya-> sure, ty Therzo
[18:32] <rtfmdude> http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization anyone?
[18:32] <holstein> rtfmdude: in a larger sense, what is it you are trying to do?
[18:33] <holstein> rtfmdude: at this point, you might want to entertain more attractive work arounds
[18:33] <rtfmdude> holstein, fully encrypted luks instance with key file on /boot removable media
[18:33] <rtfmdude> holstein, currently i see it as a bug, i might be wrong, that's why i'm asking
[18:33] <MoPac> Hello - I'm looking for help with two issues relating to keyrings. (1) My system does not seem to respect my Enigmail preference to clear my PGP passphrase after X minutes. Once I enter it, it stays unlocked indefinitely, which is not what I want. (2) Almost every session, i unlock a certain keyring manually, which is how I want it. How do I set the auto-unlock at login box to unticked by default?
[18:34] <holstein> rtfmdude: im not debating if its a bug or not.. just trying to address your specific need with a potential alternative.. what is it that you are trying to do?
[18:34] <rtfmdude> holstein, fully encrypted luks instance with key file on /boot removable media <- that's what
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> MoPac  is this useful? old article... http://www.maketecheasier.com/auto-unlock-keyring-manager-in-ubuntu-intrepid/2009/03/14
[18:35] <holstein> rtfmdude: for an installation on  the stick?
[18:35] <rtfmdude> holstein, no, for decrypting it with key file
[18:36] <holstein> rtfmdude: it? the installation?
[18:36] <rtfmdude> holstein, the installed one instance of 13.04
[18:36] <holstein> rtfmdude: installed "one" instance?
[18:37] <MoPac> MonkeyDust: Unfortunately not: the newer dialogue has this extra tick box on it, and if you leave it ticked when you enter the password, it adds that keyring password to your default login keyring, chained together. So I have to carefully untick it every time or else have the hassle of going back in the settings and deleting it from the default keyring
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> MoPac  this is is more recent http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/disable-unlock-login-keyring-ubuntu-13-04/
[18:37] <rtfmdude> holstein, sorry, maybe my english is too frustrating, just read the whole question that's why i wrote it
[18:37] <Richter> hi, today i have a little problem... my ubuntu server automatic disconect the nfs. I reboot and its work again, some one have this problem too? how i can find this in my (giant) log?
[18:37] <holstein> rtfmdude: i did, and im asking for clarification.. what is a "one" instance?
[18:38] <rtfmdude> holstein, "installed instance" installed ONE u c?
[18:38] <rtfmdude> repeating purposes one
[18:38] <holstein> rtfmdude: i realize you are having a challenging time with an issue, but this is a quite advanced scnario that normal destkop useage doesnt encounter much
[18:38] <rtfmdude> it's not advanced
[18:38] <rtfmdude> define "normal desktop user"
[18:38] <MoPac> MonkeyDust: My problem is really the opposite of what's in those articles.  I have a separate keyring that I DON'T want to unlock on login.  Its password is much stronger than my default login password, and I need it to be different. But Ubuntu keeps trying to get me to add it to my default keyring, which defeats the whole purpose
[18:39] <holstein> rtfmdude: i didnt offer that as a statement for debate.. it *is* advance.. not typical
[18:39] <BlackHarvest> Looks like my mouse issues could be due to multi-touch... any ideas on how to disable that feature?
[18:39] <holstein> rtfmdude: that is why you *are* having a challenging time with it.. to recap.. you have an installation of 13.04? on usb? and you are trying to encrypt it?
[18:39] <rtfmdude> what is typical setup for linux distribution? the desktop with unity? i don't think so, linux is supposed to be more than that
[18:40] <MoPac> So all I really want there is to be able to type in the password and press "enter" without accidentally wrecking my security every time because the wrong option is always checked by default
[18:40] <rtfmdude> holstein, on 2 hard drives with /boot media on usb stick
[18:40] <rtfmdude> what is it unclear?
[18:40] <holstein> rtfmdude: sure.. and "linux' can be what you like.. but you are not using a typical "out of the box" scenario" with ubuntu or any of the derivitives.. im not debating is a bug.. just ring to help get you an answer
[18:41] <rtfmdude> define typical, show me where i can read on wiki for example about typical setup
[18:41] <holstein> rtfmdude: that statement its self is unclear for me.. you have one installation over 2 usb sticks?
[18:41] <rtfmdude> holstein, i have installation on two hard drives HARD DAMN DRIVES
[18:41] <rtfmdude> hdds
[18:41] <holstein> rtfmdude: typical is default.. all files in one partition on one hard drive.. nothing special
[18:41] <potatoman> hi everyone, if someone could help me with a few general installation questions i'd really appreciate it
[18:41] <rtfmdude> it's written in there
[18:41] <rtfmdude> read it carefully or just don't
[18:42] <holstein> rtfmdude: just default. and im not debating thats hat you should do.. just that you are dealing with something outside the typical scope of this channel
[18:42] <danny4way> I got some kind of weird notification from my computer. It says The update information is outdated.
[18:42] <danny4way> It's from the notification bar.
[18:42] <holstein> rtfmdude: faie enough.. i'll wait for more cler details, or you can wait for another volunteer.. good luck!
[18:42] <rtfmdude> holstein, where can i read about typical scope of this channel?
[18:42] <rtfmdude> maybe there are some rights
[18:43] <holstein> rtfmdude: this is not an "official" statement, friend.. you are welcome to ask the question.. i just realize you are getting frustrated by not finding help. and im trying to explaing why this volunteer has not been able to help
[18:43] <danny4way> Is there any way to fix it?
[18:43] <rtfmdude> holstein, did i say that i need an explanation?
[18:43] <rtfmdude> about why i can't find the support lol
[18:43] <budak> lllllllllllllll
[18:44] <rtfmdude> i clearly understand why there is none
[18:44] <holstein> danny4way: nothing is "broken".. you can update the system.. you can open a terminal, and run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' or use the GUI that is popping up
[18:44] <danny4way> Okay. Thanks. I will try.
[18:44] <holstein> rtfmdude: i offered that, as a volunteer.. to try and assist you.. you are free to igrnore the explanation
[18:45] <holstein> rtfmdude: just know that i still dont know the layout of your system..
[18:45] <danny4way> I got an error
[18:45] <rtfmdude> holstein, i came with a problem and you started explaining me why i'm not getting responses, thanks, but i think i'm not the only one who consider such "volunteers" ignorant in context of whole community
[18:46] <holstein> !volunteers | rtfmdude
[18:46] <rtfmdude> holstein, my layout is written on the link i provided
[18:46] <holstein> rtfmdude: i would try and refrain from cursing and refering to volunteers as "ignorant"
[18:46] <rtfmdude> you are
[18:46] <rtfmdude> because the layout is written in there http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization
[18:46] <rtfmdude> and it was too hard for you to read it carefully
[18:47] <holstein> rtfmdude: so, you would like a volunteer to read that link?
[18:47] <rtfmdude> no, i provided it for myself only
[18:47] <rtfmdude> for private usage
[18:47] <aleksey> !ru
[18:47] <holstein> rtfmdude: i assumed you provided it for askubuntu.. but i will look at it. thanks for your continued patience
[18:48] <rtfmdude> holstein, now scroll back and look where i did it for the first time
[18:48] <IdleOne> rtfmdude: drop the attitude please.
[18:49] <rtfmdude> IdleOne, are you a lawyer?
[18:49] <holstein> rtfmdude: i saw it back then, friend.. i just didnt know that was the only way to get the information.. thanks again.. and please try and be respectful
[18:49] <rtfmdude> i'm trying hard for a week almost
[18:50] <aleksey> Start the game and works fine   DmC_Devil_May_Cry
[18:50] <rtfmdude> sorry, i need support only once per 5 years
[18:50] <aleksey> гигтег 13.4
[18:50] <aleksey> ubuntu**
[18:50] <IdleOne> you posted that to askubuntu and hour ago.
[18:50] <IdleOne> s/and/an/
[18:50] <rtfmdude> i don't get responses anywhere
[18:51] <rtfmdude> IdleOne, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/238163/comments/18 and the link to question from askubuntu question and 3 days here
[18:51] <holstein> rtfmdude: support is voluntary both places, and as i said, this is not a typical "desktop" issue
[18:51] <aleksey> url help you
[18:51] <rtfmdude> IdleOne, sorry, please, but i was helping to dudes all my life dealing with simple stuff myself and here is what i get back asking for help once in a million years :D
[18:51] <IdleOne> rtfmdude: I understand the frustration you are feeling but that does not mean it is ok to demand response from the nice people in here. So please just try to calm down and be patient
[18:51] <rtfmdude> just excuse me, i'm really nervous and i'm in desperate
[18:52] <rtfmdude> and u start talking about how is it nad to come here with non-typical setups
[18:52] <rtfmdude> after what you ignore the questions itself and situation description i was writing
[18:52] <rtfmdude> and u're saying i should drop the attitude
[18:53] <rtfmdude> man, grow up please
[18:53] <IdleOne> I am.
[18:53] <aleksey> !op
[18:53] <aleksey> ))
[18:53] <IdleOne> aleksey: How can I help you?
[18:54] <aleksey> I have all the super
[18:54] <aleksey> all errors corrected himself
[18:54] <aleksey> i love ubuntu
[18:55] <Guest85387> what is better xubuntu or lubuntu in your choise???
[18:56] <OerHeks> Guest85387 depends on your system, 256 mb/lubuntu 512 mb/xubuntu
[18:57] <Guest85387> other than that is same sys right?
[18:57] <aleksey> I ask that the council useful set of software
[18:57] <OerHeks> Guest85387 running lubuntu on a i7/4gb would be super-duper-lightweight.
[18:58] <gordonjcp> yeah
[18:58] <gordonjcp> Lubuntu on an i7 would be incredible
[18:58] <Guest85387> does it matter if a machine is that poverfull?
[18:58] <gordonjcp> you'd be able to crash far faster than ever before
[18:59] <OerHeks> Guest85387 xubuntu and Lubuntu have its own set of programs, maybe worth installing them both side-by-side
[19:01] <makara> Hi. Sometimes in Nautilus (13.04) I can't see files in a folder "Film" on an external ext4 HDD. Renaming the folder has no effect, but when I rename is from command line, then the files are again visible in Nautilus. How come??
[19:01] <patricknellum> is there anybody that can help me with ubuntu terminal please
[19:01] <makara> patricknellum, ask your q
[19:01] <DreamPCs> Hey guys, is there a --graceful-- way to shutdown via terminal?
[19:01] <DreamPCs> Something that will wait for apps to exit before killing them?
[19:02] <makara> DreamPCs, sudo reboot now
[19:02] <IdleOne> that isn't graceful, DreamPCs have a read of ' man shutdwn ' there should be some switch you can use.
[19:02] <Therzo> Hi, can anyone help with mountall not mounting ZFS volumes? I described my problem here:  https://groups.google.com/a/zfsonlinux.org/forum/#!topic/zfs-discuss/gi1AXgZgGHo
[19:02] <IdleOne> shutdown*
[19:03] <thubtumbing> Sudo shutdown now
[19:03] <patricknellum> ok. im using my android right now. my brother loaded an iso image of ubuntu  but its only a terminal. i want to learn it but im having difficulties. im trying to turn on my wireless and log onto my wifi but like i said my knowledge of terminal is extremely limited as of now. as for my android right now. it will not allow me to type numbers. so im limited to words and periods
[19:04] <DreamPCs> Ok thanks guys
[19:04] <makara> IdleOne, "When called with --force or when in runlevel 0 or 6, this tool  invokes the  reboot(2)  system call itself (with REBOOTCOMMAND argument passed) and directly reboots the system.  Otherwise  this  simply  invokes  the shutdown(8) tool with the appropriate arguments without passing REBOOT‐COMMAND argument."
[19:04] <OerHeks> makara, on ext4 you might not have permission to read,"sudo chown -R makara:makara /dev/(device name)
[19:04] <yeats> DreamPCs: 'sudo shutdown -h now' halts, 'sudo shutdown -r now' reboots
[19:05] <IdleOne> makara: seems I need to read man shutdown again :)
[19:05]  * yeats works with servers and uses it all the time
[19:05] <makara> IdleOne, that was from reboot
[19:06] <spikespiegel> hey guys, hoping someone is informed in this area
[19:07] <MoPac> spikespiegel: !anyone
[19:07] <MoPac> aw, I forgot the command
[19:07] <makara> OerHeks, where would I find it in /dev/ ? From /media/makara/Typhon is makara:makara.
[19:07] <patricknellum> as of right now im trying to use the iwconfig to log onto my wifi network. i have managed to turn the power on and when i scan through terminal i find my router. however it is encrypted. i just need to know how to log onto the network in order to download the desktop
[19:07] <MoPac> spikespiegel: What is your question?
[19:07] <spikespiegel> my buddies and I are trying to create a folder that we can both access via the internet, we would like to be able to add/remove files to the folder
[19:07] <Guest85387> dropbox?
[19:08] <MoPac> spikespiegel: Do you have any particular security requirements?
[19:08] <spikespiegel> MoPac, not too much, its going to be a mixture of ableton and music files for DJing
[19:08] <MoPac> spikespiegel: otherise, what Guest85387 said
[19:08] <OerHeks> makara then you would have sufficient acces ( /dev/ was just the example)
[19:09] <spikespiegel> dropbox will work between mac,windows and linux?
[19:09] <thunder-storm> hello :) its possible to change the background colour of the libreoffice toolbar? actually is's white - i want to change it to grey, similar to my gtk-theme installed
[19:09] <makara> OerHeks, sometimes the files just don't show up. But only in that large folder. I can see the folder, and the other folders are fine. Maybe just a bug
[19:09] <makara> spikespiegel, yes
[19:09] <spikespiegel> makara, sweet
[19:09] <OerHeks> makara do you use that drive on different ubuntu machines?
[19:09] <MoPac> I'm looking to solve two keyring problems. (1) My PGP password is staying unlocked, even when I tell Enigmail that it should only be cached for X minutes. I aissume this is a keyring manager problem, but I don't know how to fix it. (2) I want the "unlock on login" box for keyrings to be unchecked by default
[19:10] <thunder-storm> #libreoffice
[19:10] <MoPac> spikespiegel: Yep, Dropbox is (insecure) magic
[19:10] <spikespiegel> MoPac, how easily will someone be able to come in and delete everything?
[19:10] <MoPac> spikespiegel: Not that easily; it's not open like Wikipedia
[19:10] <makara> OerHeks, yes. I did something unusual though, I changed my user and computer name. But I've changed the ownership and groups of all files on the disk.
[19:11] <OerHeks> makara with the -R recursive option?
[19:11] <spikespiegel> MoPac, should be fine than, lol doubt someone will be willing to go through the time to delete DJ sets
[19:11] <MoPac> spikespiegel: Dropbox doesn't keep your files encrypted and has had some vulnerabilities in the past, but the idea is that your files are private
[19:11] <makara> OerHeks, -hR
[19:11] <spikespiegel> MoPac, it wont be too big of a deal, its basically so when i finish a file i can add it, he can download it do something to it and re upload it
[19:12] <makara> spikespiegel, I wouldn't use dropbox to store stuff. I like to think of it as a glorified mailbox.
[19:12] <spikespiegel> is there something available that offers more than 2gb for free?
[19:12] <makara> spikespiegel, dropbox.com does keep versions of your files though
[19:12] <makara> spikespiegel, google drive, ubuntuone
[19:12] <MoPac> spikespiegel: Dropbox actually does more than that. It syncs versions of the files, so if he works on something that you added and just saves it, the file will just update to the new version
[19:12] <OerHeks> spikespiegel, ubuntu-one 5 gb, wuala 5 gb etc
[19:13] <MoPac> spikespiegel: (although as makara said, you can still retrieve old versions)
[19:13] <spikespiegel> can windows/mac access ubuntuone?
[19:13] <OerHeks> spikespiegel, sure
[19:13] <OerHeks> https://one.ubuntu.com/downloads/
[19:14] <makara> patricknellum, use an ethernet cable. Wifi is tricky technology
[19:15] <nullsign> wifi gave me cancer, true story.
[19:15] <OerHeks> or 1 Tb free (flickr)
[19:16] <Orxata_> Hi
[19:16] <OerHeks> nullsign, hard to prove. and not really an ubuntu support issue, is it?
[19:16] <nullsign> OerHeks: sure it is, there is a kernel patch to cure cancer in ubuntu 12.04
[19:16] <aleksey> all use? compiz
[19:16] <aleksey> +
[19:17] <Orxata_> I have a question: When I try to remove openjdk-7-jre with apt-get remove then it installs openjdk-6-jre and viceversa. How can I just remove openjdk-X?
[19:17] <MoPac> aleksey: Sorry, could you clarify your question?
[19:17] <aleksey> Who of you uses compiz
[19:18] <MoPac> Orxata_: maybe in synaptic packag manager, you could untick everything that contains "openjdk" ?
[19:18] <MoPac> aleksey: Compiz is a part of Ubuntu, so almost everyone here uses it.
[19:18] <patricknellum> i wish that i could use ethernet. unfortunately wireless is my only option. i know the code in terminal to log in just not with the pass key
[19:18] <_joey> what's a good screenshot application on linux?
[19:18] <DJones> !screenshot | _joey
[19:19] <aleksey> I hear that there is no more support ubuntu
[19:19] <aleksey> compiz**
[19:19] <_joey> and where is the file of the screenshot is saved on the hdd?
[19:19] <MoPac> aleksey: This room could prove you wrong, depending on what your question is.
[19:19] <Orxata_> Ah, I'm gonna try, MoPac. Thank you
[19:20] <felon> whats the command to list how many wireless cards are installed......i having problems
[19:20] <sinkensabe> _joey: shutter
[19:20] <DJones> _joey: It gives you the option of where you save it, the default is in pictures
[19:20] <makara> felon, iw
[19:20] <_joey> bs
[19:20] <DJones> _joey: So /home/username/Pictures
[19:21] <_joey> prtscr does not take screenshots
[19:21] <_joey> maybe in Gnome or KDE
[19:21] <DJones> _joey: Working in Ubuntu with Unity
[19:22] <sinkensabe> _joey: you might want to try Shutter if you havent already
[19:22] <_joey> sinkensabe: what's a syntax for shutter?
[19:22] <felon> ty makara
[19:22] <aleksey> ow to manage PC voice in ubuntu
[19:22] <MoPac> aleksey: Ubuntu is moving to a new window system called Mir. But compiz is still being supported at the moment.
[19:22] <aleksey> how to manage PC voice in
[19:22] <_joey> I have evince running pdf with a graphics of which I want to take a screenshot
[19:23] <MoPac> Does shutter capture video as well?
[19:23] <sinkensabe> _joey: what do you mean? you searched for a good screenshot application? correct? Shutter allows you to select the area and have a number of tools for editing and such
[19:23] <sinkensabe> MoPac: dont think so
[19:24] <makara> patricknellum, why don't you download the iso from your Android device and copy it across
[19:24] <_joey> sinkensabe: okay, you have no clue about things you are advising others
[19:25] <patricknellum> how would i load it in the terminal. if i download it. when i type startx it tells me to use the get function and then it informs me that i need to download it. how would i use my android to load the file via terminal
[19:26] <sinkensabe> _joey: okey
[19:26] <OerHeks> _joey, just hit the printscreen button, as a screenshot app is already installed, save it and you will find the screenshot in your /home/ or ~/pictures/ folder
[19:27] <Guest74987> is t possible to install software from synaptic when using the live cd?
[19:27] <patricknellum> im in front of my laptop right now as well
[19:27] <Orxata_> MoPac, didn't work, it also installs openjdk-6 when I remove openjdk-7
[19:27] <OerHeks> Guest74987, sure, install synaptic first
[19:28] <OerHeks> Guest74987, all installed software will be in memory, and deleted after reboot
[19:28] <Guest74987> OerHeks, i'm curious does it save it to the CD, HDD or ram?
[19:28] <_joey> OerHeks: Ubuntu != Unity|Gnome|KDE
[19:28] <Guest74987> oh
[19:28] <makara> patricknellum, we chat private
[19:29] <patricknellum> how do i log into private chat
[19:29] <SN3> Why is Netbeans so ugly in Ubuntu?
[19:29] <andygraybeal> how can i print http://www.example.com/file.pdf  from the shell?  can i do a 'lp' command?
[19:30] <Guest74987> what do you think is the best TV turner software for Ubuntu that is compatible with the most TV turners?
[19:31] <MoPac> Orxata_: When you look in Synaptic now, does it have openJDK6 marked as installed?
[19:31] <_joey> hmmm
[19:31] <patricknellum> makara how do i use private chat
[19:32] <_joey> 2013 - linux does not have a decent screenshot application on desktop station
[19:32] <_joey> says it all
[19:32] <Orxata_> Yes, MoPac
[19:32] <Orxata_> openjdk6 installed, openjdk7 not installed
[19:32] <Guest74987> tuner*
[19:33] <OerHeks> _joey so you are not on ubuntu?
[19:34] <Orxata_> The problem is, I don't want to use OpenJDK anymore, I want to install the oracle jdk
[19:34] <MoPac> Orxata_: And I'm assuming that your goal is to have no version at all, right? or is there an earlier one you want
[19:34] <DJones> _joey: It might help if you said what desktop you were using
[19:34] <makara> patricknellum, can you see where it says #ubuntu. Are there other channels?
[19:35] <_joey> OerHeks: Ubuntu != Unity|Gnome|KDE
[19:35] <tones> in ubuntu using chrome how do you make every mp3 file default open in VLC?
[19:35] <MoPac> you should be able to mark openJDK-6 for complete removal, then if it installs 7, do the same thing for it
[19:35] <_joey> linux base attracted many retards
[19:35] <Orxata_> MoPac, I want to use the oracle jdk. Maybe I could install it without having to remove the openJDK
[19:35] <tones> about: config is blank page
[19:36] <GH0> Hey could someone look at something for me? My phone was resting on my bed while I was watching TV in our living room, I went to grab my phone, checked the battery stat, and noticed a blank area which indicated it restarted. So I looked at the uptime and it is only an hour or so. SO I pulled the last_kmesg from /proc/ . I see a lot of things, but none of them quite make much sense to me. This is on Sprint's stock ROM with root and CWM. http://pastebin.com/xxhf
[19:36] <GH0> AdxJ
[19:36] <MoPac> Orxata_: I mean, I think you should be able to uninstall it if you want. Ubuntu wouldn't be forcing you to keep any package.
[19:36] <GH0> http://pastebin.com/xxhfAdxJ
[19:36] <GH0> Xchat seems to have broken the line up.
[19:37] <makara> patricknellum, what IRC client are you using?
[19:37] <aberrant> hi all
[19:37] <MoPac> Orxata_: I think that if you can get both versions marked for complete removal, you should give that a try.
[19:37] <aberrant> where can I go to see the commits for the latest updates? I note that login(1) and passwd(1) were updated recently. I'd like to see the changes.
[19:37] <felon> in ubuntu are you still able to bridge wireless connections. cant seem to find it
[19:37] <Orxata_> I'm gonna try, MoPac
[19:38] <MoPac> So mark 6 for complete removal, then see if it installs 7 without your permission. If it does, mark 7 for removal too, and hopefully it will work.  If it tries putting 7 back on there, you can also force version
[19:38] <Orxata_> However
[19:38] <DJones> GH0: I think you're in the wrong channel for that question, this is Ubuntu support
[19:38] <Orxata_> I can't mark 7 for removal, since it's not instaled
[19:38] <jtreminio> Hi all. I am adding a PPA that has an updated Apache version. However, I don't want to install that Apache version, I want the one that's included by default. How do I install a specific version from a repo?
[19:38] <GH0> Oh... lol, whoops.
[19:38] <GH0> Thought I had clicked #sgs4
[19:38] <GH0> My bad
[19:39] <MoPac> Orxata_: Right, just do it for 6, and if it puts 7 on there, then do it for  7, and hopefully it won't be able to put 6 back on
[19:39] <DJones> GH0: Had to read it a couple of times though, was about to point you to #ubuntu-touch thinking you were running Ubuntu on a phone
[19:40] <MoPac> Orxata_: Although it's also possible that that these programs are dependencies for others. It's possible that what's happening is that some version is getting installed because some other package needs a JDK. So if this doesn't work, you may need to try installing the oracle one first and then removing openjdk
[19:40] <Orxata_> Ahá
[19:41] <m_> hello do u know how to install sensor temperature
[19:41] <Orxata_> So... MoPac.. can you help me install oracleJDK? I've already downloaded the source file and I've unpacked on /usr/java/ (which is a new dir)
[19:41] <m_> ??
[19:42] <MoPac> Orxata_: hopefully it has an install readme?
[19:43] <MoPac> I really know nothing about the particulars of that program
[19:44] <Mace268> might try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[19:44] <Orxata_> Oh
[19:44] <Orxata_> thanks to both of you
[19:45] <Orxata_> Oh! Very useful Mace268!
[19:49] <zykotick9> !sensors | m_
[19:52] <fellayaboy> hello
[19:53] <f00bar80> while trying to install ubuntu 12.10 from USB i got E: Malformed line 5 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list ( absolute dist ) , line 5 is : deb cdrom:[ubuntu-server 12.10 _Quantal Quetzal_ release i386 (201210172)]/Grub recovery/ rating main rating multiverse rating universe , any idea what's wrong ?
[19:53] <holstein> f00bar80: could be a bad download. or bad install media.. i would download 13.04 and try again
[19:54] <f00bar80> holstein, i'm installing from USB pen
[19:54] <f00bar80> holstein, i've tried two different iso
[19:54] <holstein> f00bar80: sure.. the "usb media" could be bad.. or the download
[19:54] <OerHeks> malformed line, do a md5sum
[19:54] <holstein> !md5 | f00bar80
[19:55] <dontyouwish> hello.  noob here....currently running 12.04 64 bit off dvd in drive.....how do i install directly to usb and still have the ability to save files without having to reinstall everytime
[19:55] <holstein> i use unetbootin, and i format before making the stick.. not the only way to make a bootable stick, but it works for me
[19:56] <holstein> dontyouwish: i just do an install to the USB stick as if its a drive.. the issue is going to be installing grub onto the stick instead of the main hard drive
[19:56] <holstein> i might do a minimal insatll, and manually install grub where i want.. then, add what i want to the installation
[19:56] <dontyouwish> i am very new to his OS.  i see in the install part it asks for file partitioning.  i have a 32 gig usb drive id like to install the OS onto and be able to build my own personl OS on it
[19:57] <wiehan> how do I add a user to a group via terminal
[19:57] <holstein> dontyouwish: if you are "new", consider just running it live.. or live with persistence.. from a pendrive linux guide
[19:57] <holstein> dontyouwish: otherwise, its just like a typical install, using the USB as the destination drive, but you will break the bootloader current setup that way
[19:58] <dontyouwish> well i dont want to later on re install everything all over again
[19:58] <holstein> wiehan: sudo adduser 'yourusername' 'groupname'
[19:59] <holstein> dontyouwish: installations usually take about 8 minutes.. i think its a good idea to "plan for failure" and have data backed up
[19:59] <holstein> !mini
[19:59] <holstein> dontyouwish: ^^the mini iso asks about installing grub, and you can choose to not install it and set it up manually later.. of the USB stick
[19:59] <holstein> dontyouwish: what youare asking is "easiest" from the persistence method, arguably
[20:00] <MoPac> f00bar80: is "rating" there where it should be "raring" or "quantal" ?
[20:00] <dontyouwish> to holstein, i have used ubuntu on cd and usb drive in the try out mode for quite some time now
[20:00] <dontyouwish> now i want to go the exra step
[20:00] <DoverMo> holstein, does the install not recognize a usb for boot destination?
[20:00] <DoverMo> er
[20:00] <holstein> dontyouwish: the extra step is, either install or use persistence
[20:01] <holstein> DoverMo: yes
[20:01] <dontyouwish> ok but when it comes to a fresh install with nothing on the usb drive, what do i format the first part to xfat, swap, ext3?
[20:01] <MoPac> I'm trying to solve two Keyrings problems. (1) My PGP password is being cached indefinitely even if I tell Enigmail to only store for X minutes. (2) When unlocking keyrings, I need the "unlock on login" box unchecked by default
[20:02] <holstein> dontyouwish: you let the installer do it "automatically"
[20:02] <dontyouwish> the installer still asks me for install location and i send to usb and its asking about root directory and such
[20:03] <f00bar80> MoPac, the line above is as it shows in sources.list
[20:03] <karen_> Hi, I'm working on aan illustrated book with thebookpatch.com. They have templates to download and then you send your book PDF to them to print out. They said that Word and InDesign works with them. Does anyone know if LibreOffice is compatable and able to do the same with the Linux system?
[20:03] <Orxata_> [doctor_who@doctorwho-SMBIOS:/usr/lib/jvm]$java -version
[20:03] <Orxata_> java version "1.7.0_25"
[20:03] <Orxata_> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_25-b15)
[20:03] <Orxata_> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 23.25-b01, mixed mode)
[20:03] <FloodBot1> Orxata_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:03] <holstein> dontyouwish: you say "use the USB stick as the destination with automatic partitioning"
[20:03] <Orxata_> ups, sorry
[20:03] <holstein> dontyouwish: or, remove/unplug the internal hard drive, leaving only the USB. .and do a normal install
[20:04] <DJones> karen_: You should be able to save a libreoffice document at MS Word .doc or .docx without any issues
[20:04] <dontyouwish> how to i let it auto partition, im on MBP
[20:04] <holstein> dontyouwish: what is "MBP"? mac book pro?
[20:04] <dontyouwish> :)
[20:05] <holstein> dontyouwish: you can also, take the stick to another machine.. then, refit or whatever you are using will see the installation from the USB
[20:05] <holstein> dontyouwish: if the question is "how to i partition a drive for installation?".. let the installer do it.. on MBP or not
[20:05] <dontyouwish> so you are saying i can use my windows machine and install it directly to the usb from dvd on that and just go from there
[20:05] <holstein> dontyouwish: if you want to manually partition, you can use a 1gb swap and the rest ext4
[20:05] <karen_> So, when you do each page, you save it as MS Word.doc or .docx?  Not too smart with software here., sorry.
[20:05] <dontyouwish> i dont want to use refit either
[20:06] <rod_> use refit
[20:06] <holstein> dontyouwish: thats the way i have gotten USB to boot
[20:06] <holstein> dontyouwish: i think you will have to
[20:06] <DoverMo> holstein, couldn't one unmount the other partitions, use the installer, than setup grub in a chroot post install?
[20:06] <MoPac> f00bar80: I don't know for sure, but in that line you pasted above, where the word "rating" is, I would have thought that the word "raring" would be
[20:06] <guntbert> karen_: I don't know about the templates but libreoffice can generate PDF without problems
[20:06] <DJones> karen_: Libreoffice will work in the same way as MS Word, pretty much whatever you do with word, you would do the same with Libreoffice
[20:06] <holstein> DoverMo: one can do *any* more challenging things that you are welcome to talk the new user dontyouwish through
[20:06] <MoPac> f00bar80:  or "quantal", since that's the version you're installing
[20:07] <holstein> what do i suggest? being cautious and reading the grub documents, dontyouwish .. and doing a live stick with persistence that will boot on any machine
[20:07] <karen_> o.k., so I save the pages as what again?
[20:07] <DJones> karen_: .doc or .docx (Thats the normal MS Word formats)
[20:08] <karen_> THANK YOU!
[20:09] <madzarx> Hello :))
[20:10] <jitngrbvuirt> quit
[20:10] <jitngrbvuirt> exit
[20:12] <wad> Question: when I do "iptables -L" there are some entries in here that I set up a while back. But I think I'm losing my mind... I don't remember how I set them up. Now I need to add another one, and I can't remember how. When this machine boots, where does it get its iptables config from?
[20:15]  * wad looks around hopefully
[20:15] <asd_> so i have problem with installing chrominum on xubuntu, i downloaded it from google and then it opens it in software center but it wont install it just leaves this message : Software can't be installed or removed because the authentication service is not available. (org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name':  ':1.69'}): org.debian.apt.install-file
[20:17] <flipper88_fl> asd_ after closing software center. in a terminal try an sudo apt-get -f install
[20:17] <DoverMo> Guest9975, chromium is avaliabe via universe and isn't needed from google repo
[20:18] <Guest9975> how do i go to universe?
[20:18] <Guest9975> and what is universe?
[20:18] <flipper88_fl> Guest9975: Try midori as it is a light weight browser too
[20:18] <zykotick9> is "chromium" even available from google?  isn't that Chrome?
[20:21] <failmaster> wad, you can just store the rules in the file like described here https://wiki.debian.org/iptables in case there is some stuff that adds rules automatically you can troubleshoot it via syslog for example
[20:21] <Guest9975> yea its avaliable from google
[20:22] <failmaster> !sections
[20:22] <failmaster> !repositories
[20:24] <flipper88_fl> FWI the screen shots on the link posted are five +9 years old gusty gibbion was released in 2007
[20:27] <dhvujgfdhj_> Hi
[20:30] <ghbvcyikgcvbj> Potty
[20:31] <wad> failmaster, thanks!
[20:35] <wad> failmaster, that helped me a lot! It reminded me of where I had put the script I used to set it up. :)
[20:45] <arthur_> Hello!
[20:45] <arthur_> I get this when I try installing Ubuntu
[20:45] <arthur_> http://gyazo.com/39c63d83694a306516be0f02e64f3bfc.png
[20:45] <arthur_> What should I do?
[20:45] <arthur_> I'm installing it via CD
[20:45] <FloodBot1> arthur_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:47]  * peroht notices all files in his samba-share has vanished
[20:47] <peroht> yikes
[20:47] <Therzo> Can anyone help with my mountall / ZFS issue? https://groups.google.com/a/zfsonlinux.org/forum/#!topic/zfs-discuss/gi1AXgZgGHo
[20:48] <MoPac> arthur_: what happens when you type "continue"
[20:49] <MoPac> arthur_: ah okay now I read more on that screen. So it looks like the loader isn't finding the right drive or the right partition on which Ubuntu has been installed. Firstly, is this screen something you're seeing after you installed Ubuntu, or before?
[20:50] <icelite> Anyone from india/
[20:50] <icelite> ?
[20:50] <MoPac> arthur_: Are you there?
[20:50] <arthur_> MoPac: when I type continue I get an error message on my monitor
[20:50] <makara> icelite, why?
[20:51] <MoPac> arthur_: when you type, "ls" cdoes anything come up?
[20:51] <MoPac> *does
[20:51] <icelite> asking jsut
[20:51] <|System|> Hello
[20:51] <|System|> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5967730/
[20:53] <MoPac> icelite: There is a channel #ubuntu-in
[20:53] <icelite> ok
[20:53] <icelite> makara:  reply
[20:53] <daftykins> |System|: trying to run a HL game server? hldsupdatetool is deprecated.
[20:53] <allure> just installed a 29" fullhd monitor, but the fonts look terrible on it... how do I fix this?
[20:54] <|System|> daftykins Would you happen to know what I can use now to run some steam servers ?
[20:54] <daftykins> |System|: it's all documented in Steam's stuff, can't remember the name offhand but it's some acronym i think
[20:55] <daftykins> |System|: steamCMD
[20:55] <|System|> Ahh, Okay. Thank you very much. I shall lookup on it.
[20:55] <allure> just installed a 29" fullhd monitor, but the fonts look terrible on it, really bad reading... how do I fix this?
[20:56] <elderx> allure: are you running it with native resolution ?
[20:57] <allure> elderx, 1080p
[20:58] <allure> okie dokie... it seems no one knows what to do with this crappy monitor =D
[20:58] <redramp22> OK, wtf is going on with ubuntu. i installed 13.10 and it has been a pain in the but. this is my first time using linux. i can run .exe without archive manager thinking there an zip file or somthing. also, cant get wobbley windows. whats up with that? just using unity
[20:58] <|System|> daftykins
[20:58] <|System|> I got the same error again.
[20:59] <|System|> On the SteamCMD
[20:59] <daftykins> |System|: pastebin?
[20:59] <|System|> http://pastebin.com/eikaYbHj
[21:00] <daftykins> |System|: you didn't chmod +x it
[21:00] <DJones> redramp22: 13.10 probably isn't the best to start with, thats still in development, so you should expect things to broken.  However, as you've got it installed, can you join #ubuntu+1 and ask any questions there, thats the support channel for development versions
[21:00] <|System|> http://pastebin.com/7UPMkhQ1
[21:01] <redramp22> well how would i change to somthing more stable, like 12.04?
[21:01] <sinkensabe> cd ..
[21:01] <sinkensabe> ops sry
[21:01] <DJones> redramp22: You can't downgrade versions, you would need to download the iso, put it on a dvd/usb and do a fresh install
[21:02] <redramp22> alright thanks
[21:02] <|System|> Seems like it might be a issue with my bash.
[21:03] <daftykins> |System|: also you're breaking all kinds of safe practises by using root to do that.
[21:03] <DJones> redramp22: 12.04 is a Long Term Support version with support and updates for 5 years, 13.04 is the latest release, but that is only supported for 9 months with updates (the expectation is that users will upgrade once 13.10 is officially released)
[21:04] <|System|> daftykins I don't mind it right this second. my server isnt publiclly accessable.
[21:04] <tigrang> is the only way to add a host via editing /etc/hosts, is there a command to temporarily add one via a script?
[21:07] <frinott> |System|: u need steampipe to use that
[21:07] <Danic> Hi there! When browsing the file system in the explorer, can't I just enter a path anywhere and brwose to it? Is there no such thing?
[21:08] <fellayaboy> hey where can i find those variables that the linux system uses...such as $USER
[21:08] <|System|> fiinott is there a script which you know works and I can download and run on my server to test to see if it is my bash ?
[21:08] <fellayaboy> where are those variables usually stored?
[21:08] <crankharder> anyone know how to specify in an upstart config what pid file it should be checking?  seems like this should be an obvious config param
[21:08] <crankharder> fellayaboy: env
[21:09] <zykotick9> Danic: try CTRL+L
[21:09] <fellayaboy> where is env?
[21:09] <Danic> zykotick9: working :) thx
[21:09] <fellayaboy> crankharder where is env
[21:09] <crankharder> fellayaboy: type it in your terminal
[21:09] <fellayaboy> oh
[21:10] <fellayaboy> awwessome thanks crankharder...where is the location of env too..the file?
[21:11] <g_byers> hehe
[21:11] <fellayaboy> i see some files/scripts that say [ -z foo] ..what is -Z
[21:14] <goddard> anygot 7950s working in crossfire?
[21:14] <goddard> anyone got *
[21:17] <sampson623> Can someone help me with ... wubi...
[21:18] <sampson623> Or does anyone know where I can get help with Wubi
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> sampson623:  just ask the question here and see
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> but its best to move away from wubi.
[21:21] <Ari-Yang> !wubi > sampson623
[21:21] <sampson623> Oh, I cant use Wubi with windows 8?
[21:22] <Dr_Willis> sampson623:  No you can not.
[21:22] <sampson623> Shoot. Where is there a safe way to install ubuntu then (I've been told you can smoke your hard drive)
[21:22] <Dr_Willis> Wubi is basically a dead project for many reasons
[21:22] <angs> is ubuntu's terminal tmux?
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> sampson623:  it cant 'smoke' your hard drive.  it can  mess with windows installs. and there is/was a known bug with SAMSUNG laptops (some makes) that can cause the laptop to be bricked. but that was not ubuntus specific
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> sampson623:  'safest' way to test out Ubuntu would be to run it in virtualbox
[21:23] <sampson623> I have an HP Laptop so the samsung bug wont affect me
[21:24] <Dr_Willis> personally id go get a affordable SSD for the laptop. remove the windows HD.. lock it away.. install the ssd and put ubuntu on that. ;)
[21:25] <sampson623> Well how much of a risk is it really if I just partion my drive
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> sampson623:  always have backups of your imporntant stuff.. and  for a windows box. Id be sure to know how to restore windows. Make a restoreDVD set with the windows tools.
[21:25] <DoverMo> sampson623, the only reason your hard drive would fail is that if your hard drive was actually faulty at that point in time
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> and perhaps make a 'image backup' of windows - if you want to be extra safe
[21:26] <sampson623> How do I make an image backup Dr_Willis
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> the biggest 'risk' is you some how 'break' the os. and dont have an os that boots properly. you would then need to reinstall
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> sampson623:  for windows.. ask in #windows
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> I never bother imageing windows. I just reinstall it.
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> I would imagine clonezilla can do it.
[21:27] <sampson623> This laptop is pretty much a reddit machine. I could just factory restore it if something gets wonky, right?
[21:28] <Dr_Willis> Do you know HOW to do that? do you have a 'dvd restore disk set' ?
[21:28] <Dr_Willis> DONT rely on the HD 'restore' partitions
[21:29] <sampson623> I'm sure this laptop is still under warranty
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> warrenty wont do much good if you delete your entire hard drive and need to reinstall windows to it.
[21:29] <Dr_Willis> and there should be a tool on the windows side to make a dvd-restore-disk-set
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> thats the first thing i do on any new windows machine i get/setup. make a DVD set.
[21:30] <sampson623> I can create a recovery drive. Would that be what I want?
[21:31] <sampson623> I'll just ask in Windows, thanks!
[21:32] <bcows> I am trying to resize a partition with gparted, I booted from by ubuntu dvd by restarting and selecting the "try it" option, I then start gparted, I have a primary partition (the one i want to resize) an extended partition for swap, and the unallocated block in that order, when I try to resize the primary partition it won't let me use the unallocated space, any ideas ?
[21:33] <irssi-mike> bcows: no ideas tho i know when i did it it had to be logical not primary
[21:34] <GEEGEEGEE> Which drivers should I use for a HD7000 series AMD graphics card, and what package(s) do i need to remove to stop the Amazon spyware?
[21:34] <flipper88_fl> On a master bottrecord scheme disk you're only allowed upto four primary partitions
[21:34] <daftykins> GEEGEEGEE: latest non-beta for the first, google for the second
[21:35] <irssi-mike> bcows: meaning when you slice that new space choose logical instead of primary
[21:41] <bcows> hrmm irssi-mike it says the 2nd partition is status busy/mounted .... but I am booting from the ubuntu dvd...
[21:41] <zykotick9> bcows: try "sudo swapoff -a" from terminal
[21:50] <bcows> thanks zykotick9 that unmounted it
[21:52] <angs> does ubuntu's terminal allows you to make a search among texts are on the terminal?
[21:53] <dgarstang> Is there a user equivalent of /etc/profile.d ?
[21:53] <bcows> when I try to move the swap partition to the right into the unallocated space it won't let me move the partition only expand it into that space, the spinners on the "space preceding" are grayed out/disabled
[21:54] <zykotick9> bcows: if that swap is a Logical partition, it MUST be inside the Extended partition
[21:54] <jrib> dgarstang: a directory structure for user config you mean?
[21:54] <dgarstang> jrib: I mean.... something like /etc/profile.d/foo ..... but on a per user basis, maybe in ~/.profile.d/foo
[21:55] <jrib> dgarstang: there isn't but you can copy the stanza that enables /etc/profile.d from your /etc/profile and create one if you wish
[21:55] <dgarstang> jrib: yah just found it
[21:55] <jrib> dgarstang: (there is ~/.profile)
[21:55] <bcows> zykotick9, sorry thats what I meant I am trying to move the extended partition that holds the swap partition... gparted will only let me expand it, not move it
[21:56] <dgarstang> jrib: kinda wanted seperate scripts.
[21:56] <lorddelta> Hey, I'm having an issue with an upstart job - mysql to be exact. Would this be the best place to report it, or is upstart mysql's responsibility?
[21:56] <zykotick9> bcows: sorry, i wouldn't know... good luck.
[21:56] <lorddelta> I already found (both) bugs, so its just a matter of reporting it I suppose
[21:56] <jrib> dgarstang: right, you would put the stanza to source ~/.profile.d (copy and modify what you see in /etc/profile) in your ~/.profile
[21:56] <dgarstang> jrib: yah.... thanks.
[21:58] <cartusia> in ubuntu unity what would be the equivalent for klipper in the GUI?
[21:59] <MonkeyDust> cartusia  glipper
[21:59] <cartusia> thanks
[22:02] <bcows> ah figured it out zykotick9... you have to first expand it into the unallocated space, then in a second resizing shrink it to the right back to it's original size to move it to the right
[22:03] <bcows> documented here if anyone runs into it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition/OperatingSystemsAndPartitions
[22:03] <zykotick9> bcows: glad you figured it out.  nice!
[22:06] <lorddelta> well the folks over at #mysql seem to think its ubuntu that handles upstart jobs. Proceeding to file a bug.
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> Upstart is a ubuntu feature lorddelta
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> !upstart | lorddelta
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> lorddelta:  what is the exact issue you are having?
[22:11] <nightrider72> hi all
[22:11] <angs> does ubuntu's terminal allows you to make a search among texts are on the terminal?
[22:12] <nightrider72> anyone has experience with using 802.1x with machine based authentication using EAP/TLS (computer certificates)?
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> angs:  that would be a feature of the terminal emulator you are using i imagine.
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> angs:  ive not noticed that feature in gnome-terminal., but konsole MIGHT have a feature like that
[22:12] <zykotick9> angs: are you familiar with grep?
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> angs:  you mean search the terminals  'output history buffer' correct?
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> 'on the terminal'  is a little vague ;P
[22:13] <zykotick9> angs: grep won't directly help you with what your asking (i believe), but it's VERY handy to search in any terminal output you give it.
[22:15] <nightrider72> 802.1x anyone?  ;)
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> nightrider72:  be a bit more specific in your question.
[22:15] <Dastweeper> Would anyone be able to assist with a networking problem?
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> !details
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> !anyone
[22:15] <Dastweeper> Can do:
[22:15] <nightrider72> ubuntu 12.04LTS
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> Dastweeper, there is a #networking channel as well for the record.
[22:16] <booh> I have ubuntu on /dev/sda2.  I've just installed kubuntu on /dev/sda4.  How to boot on it?  I don't see any grub menu at boot... it always boot directly in ubuntu.
[22:16] <nightrider72> wow
[22:16] <nightrider72> I'll go there thankyou
[22:16] <Dastweeper> I'Thanks for that, wilee.
[22:16] <rhtrar> hi all, does anybody know if there is a way to access Google Hangouts  from other messaging programs, such as pidgin?
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> Dastweeper, No problem it is actually ##networking
[22:17] <kubblai> booh: Iirc you can try the ubuntu boot fix tool
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> booh:  you do realize you can install just the Kubuntu/kde desktop on top of your Ubuntu install - then select what desktop to use at the login screen?
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> booh:  if you boot to one of the ubuntus and rerun 'sudo update-grub' it Should find and show both installs ont eh grub menu at boot time
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> booh:  these are 2 differnt ubuntu versions? or just kubuntu 13.04 and ubuntu 13.04?
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> booh, One of the linux installs will control the boot, you can choose which one if you want and reload the grub-bootloader to the mbr from the terminal in its deskstop, with sudo grub-install /dev/sdX   X ix the HD not a partition.
[22:21] <booh> ubuntu 13.04 32bits and kubuntu 13.04 64 bits ;-)
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> i dont relly se emuch point in 2 seperate installs..  ive rarely ever had 64bit issues
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[22:22] <Dastweeper> Well, I'll ask here anyways: How do you connect to an unsecured wireless network via terminal?
[22:22] <angs> Dr_Willis, zykotick9, yes I meant search a text on the terminals  'output history buffer'
[22:22] <booh> Ok I tried update-grub.. I reboot ;-)
[22:23] <zykotick9> angs: i'm unaware of any output history, the "history" command can easily be searched for command you've run.  best of luck.
[22:23] <lonewulf85> Hello I need some help installing a driver for the Lexmark x2670 in Ubuntu 12.04 x86_64
[22:24] <rebbecajohnson20> helo evrybodi
[22:24] <rebbecajohnson20> helo evrybody
[22:25] <daftykins> hi
[22:25] <rebbecajohnson20> Im rebbeca
[22:25] <gr33n7007h> Dastweeper, sudo iwconfig <NIC> essid "nameofunsecurednetwork"
[22:25] <lonewulf85> rebbecajohnson20, what up.
[22:25] <gr33n7007h> Dastweeper, sudo dhclient <NIC>
[22:25] <Dastweeper> Thnnks, gr33n, but I tried that. It looked like it worked, but it still can't ping anything.
[22:26] <rebbecajohnson20> I liek ubuntu im frim romanya
[22:27] <rebbecajohnson20> I from romanya yu?
[22:27] <rebbecajohnson20> Whi yu ignore me
[22:27] <Dastweeper> I checked a half dozen tutorials on it and found how to use iwconfig, edit the etc/network/interfaces file; nothing works.
[22:27] <daftykins> rebbecajohnson20: this channel is more for Ubuntu support, not just chat
[22:27] <histo> rebbecajohnson20: do you have a question?
[22:27] <rebbecajohnson20> I liek to chat :-)
[22:28] <histo> Dastweeper: can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces files please?
[22:28] <Dastweeper> Sure. Hold on.
[22:28] <histo> !paste | Dastweeper
[22:28] <daftykins> rebbecajohnson20: you should join #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[22:29] <rebbecajohnson20> Chan I find a romania gyrly chat?
[22:29] <histo> Dastweeper: This page will help https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line
[22:29] <histo> !alis | rebbecajohnson20
[22:29] <histo> !ro | rebbecajohnson20
[22:30] <rebbecajohnson20> Ubottu vreau sa intalnesc fete ca mine :-)
[22:31] <KentDisplayWoes> Does anyone know that old joke about this awesome new storage technology that requires absolutely no power, runs any encoding and any language, and it 100% portable? It's called "BOOK"
[22:32] <jrib> !ot | KentDisplayWoes
[22:32] <KentDisplayWoes> Sorry, thanks
[22:34] <rebbecajohnson20> Ies ubunyu is cuul :-)
[22:38] <rebbecajohnson20> KentDisplayWoes : wat ys dat????????????????
[22:39] <Dastweeper> Grrrrr. My problem computer isn't this one and all of my flashdrives aren't being recognized anymore. I'll be a moment.
[22:40] <lorddelta> Sorry, what is the command to view which repository a package has come from?
[22:41] <lorddelta> I'm trying to report this bug but ubuntu-bug tells me its not official ubuntu, and the page I found on launchpad isn't very helpful
[22:41] <lorddelta> So I need to know the soruce
[22:41] <zykotick9> lorddelta: check the address in "apt-cache policy foo"
[22:41] <lorddelta> zykotick9: thanks!
[22:44] <Laraoxo> Hello :)
[22:45] <Laraoxo> Hello hello anyone in this chat room????
[22:45] <other-unused-thi> is there a way to quickly disable multiple upstart jobs?
[22:45] <McDeffice> !libgl
[22:45] <kubblai> Just ask Laraoxo
[22:45] <Laraoxo> I don't know sorry!
[22:46] <wilee-nilee> Laraoxo, If you just want to chat there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:46] <kubblai> I mean just ask you question :)
[22:46] <other-unused-thi> do I need to "echo manual >> foo.override" for each one?
[22:48] <lonewulf85> Lexmark x2670 printer does not work in Ubuntu 12.04 x64 any ideas?
[22:48] <other-unused-thi> google "printer name + linux"?
[22:48] <wilee-nilee> lonewulf85, You went into printer and looked if there was a driver?
[22:48] <JesseC> Anyone know how to restart a stuck service that uses Upstart?
[22:49] <JesseC> I know how to get the status, can't find crap on stopping and starting though
[22:49] <jrib> JesseC: stop, start, restart... or use the "service" command
[22:49] <lonewulf85> wilee-nilee, Yes it could not find one, I googled it and found one but it is for i386 could that work? I have tried to install it but it does not work.
[22:49] <JesseC> jrib: none of those work
[22:50] <daftykins> JesseC: kill the PID then start?
[22:50] <kubblai> Kill it with fire JesseC
[22:50] <JesseC> daftykins: dunno how to start
[22:50] <JesseC> daftykins: start name doesn't do anything
[22:50] <JesseC> status name tells me it's not running though
[22:50] <lonewulf85> JesseC, have you tried to enter the name of the service in terminal?
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> lonewulf85, Yes i386 should, is my guess, you are using i386 apps already, multiarch makes this happen.
[22:51] <rebbecajohnson20> Hei ionewulf85 way yu left ubuntuofftopic????
[22:51] <JesseC> lonewulf85: what do you mean? It's not a command
[22:51] <lonewulf85> wilee-nilee, Even though I have the 64bit os installed.
[22:51] <wilee-nilee> lonewulf85, you are using i386 apps already, multiarch makes this happen.
[22:52] <geri_> mount -t ext4 /dev/sdb1 /mtn/target   mount: /dev/sdb1/already mounted or /mtn/target busy ... umount /dev/sdb1 umount: /dev/sdb1 not mounted ....whats the problem????
[22:52] <lonewulf85> JesseC, Okay my bad that has just worked for me with a stuck program and thought it might for you. My bad
[22:52] <wilee-nilee> lonewulf85, firefox is i386 for example
[22:52] <lonewulf85> wilee-nilee, multiarch means multi architecture right I get it.
[22:53] <geri_> wilee-nilee: mount -t ext4 /dev/sdb1 /mtn/target   mount: /dev/sdb1/already mounted or /mtn/target busy ... umount /dev/sdb1 umount: /dev/sdb1 not mounted ....whats the problem????
[22:53] <kubblai> geri_: Type sudo mount to check if its already mounted or if you have something mounted to that mount point
[22:53] <geri_> kubblai: im sudo
[22:53] <geri_> kubblai: its not mounted!
[22:55] <geri_> kubblai: http://pastebin.com/3jgTBQvM
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> geri_, No idea, and generally you want a reply from your detailed description for help, some of us don't just answer when addressed, just a heads up it is about patience for free help, and conversing with someone who knows, not someone you project knowledge on.
[22:56] <geri_> wilee-nilee: its not mounted as u see here: http://pastebin.com/3jgTBQvM
[22:59] <us0r> hello all. I am curious as to if I can change the prompt in terminal to show whatever my present working directory is (ex. /home/user/) as the prompt instead of herp@derp:~$ , is this possible?
[23:00] <kubblai> geri_: retread your paste in you'll see that sdb2 is your lvm and hopefully is already mounted as it contains everything
[23:00] <geri_> i want to mount sdb1
[23:01] <kubblai> geri_: Its lvm and already mounted
[23:01] <JeremyCi> Why are you in this channel with this Prostitute Honey? She slept with half freenode members already. and I mean she is not fucking gorgeious either......LOL devlin don't think you're special she will hurt you the next week buddy. The whore just uses you. Join ##trustnoone for the conclusion.phmnkd
[23:01] <JeremyCi> Why are you in this channel with this Prostitute Honey? She slept with half freenode members already. and I mean she is not fucking gorgeious either......LOL devlin don't think you're special she will hurt you the next week buddy. The whore just uses you. Join ##trustnoone for the conclusion.afmsmcisj
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> !ops | JeremyCi
[23:10] <geri_> kubblai: umain the lvm?
[23:10] <syko> I have a very silly, but a confusing question. How can I recover my Ubuntu files IF ecryptfs gets broken, or stops working, or if my kernel gets screwed up, or I can't boot. how can I fix/recover?
[23:10] <Guest74987> i'm assuming a full install of Ubuntu would yield much better performance compared to a LiveCD?
[23:11] <syko> Guest74987: That's something a win32-user would say.
[23:11] <Guest74987> syko, maybe try a liveCD
[23:11] <syko> and we certainly, don't talk about Windows in #ubuntu, gentlemen!
[23:11] <syko> liveCD has recovery mode, yes.
[23:11] <daftykins> syko: sounds more like something anyone that understands computer hardware would say, to me
[23:18] <quadHelix> Hello savant,  I have been struggling with getting a 'file uploader' for cake to act how I want it to.  I am going to try to tackle your uploader this weekend.  Are there any cake 1.3 gotchas I should be aware of before I set off?
[23:19] <quadHelix> wrong chat room lol
[23:19] <Baribal> Hi. I just tried to apt-get install wireshark, but alas "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!", and I don't know anything about the authentification process. Can someone give me some pointers on why auth failed?
[23:20] <ubuntunoob> how do i access my hard drives?
[23:20] <Baribal> ubuntunoob, a bit of context please. What exactly do you want to do?
[23:21] <Isodoom> Hi
[23:21] <ubuntunoob> Baribal: access D drive
[23:21] <Guest74987> is it possible to test graphics drivers on the liveCD, or you can't since you would have to restart?
[23:21] <histo> ubuntunoob: is it showing in nautilus in the left frame?
[23:22] <ubuntunoob> no
[23:22] <Isodoom> I have big problem with installing Ubuntu, i get no boot options, try to fix with boot-fix and Windows cd but no menu. :(
[23:22] <BlackHarvest> Hey all, just wondering... what directory should I install the java binary to?
[23:22] <histo> Guest74987: You probably could using modprobe etc... and restarting lightdm
[23:22] <ubuntunoob> I'm trying to find the ubuntu equivalent of "my computer"
[23:22] <histo> ubuntunoob: that would be in nautilus on the left frame (the file browser)
[23:22] <histo> ubuntunoob: does lsblk show it?
[23:23] <histo> BlackHarvest: what java binary?
[23:23] <ubuntunoob> what is lsblk
[23:23] <PersonalProblem> Guest74987, I beleive you have a problem with drivers  that use kernel modules
[23:23] <PersonalProblem> but I might be wrong
[23:23] <histo> ubuntunoob: a command you run in terminal
[23:24] <kubblai> Isodoom: Try booting an ubuntu lived and using the boot fix tool from the software centre
[23:24] <Isodoom> kubblai: try already, but didn't work
[23:24] <PersonalProblem> Guest74987, try loging out but not rebooting?
[23:24] <ubuntunoob> histo: is it possible that it repartitioned both hard drives as one drive?
[23:25] <Guest74987> yeah, i guess i'll try that
[23:25] <kubblai> Isodoom are you using uefi? And or secure boot?
[23:25] <bigbadben> Hey does anyone one know if there is still an app like blubphone out there that connects to a ubuntu or kubuntu desktop and relays messaged from your android phone?
[23:26] <histo> ubuntunoob: that what partitioned both hard drives?
[23:26] <ubuntunoob> the reformatting/installation
[23:26] <PersonalProblem> Guest74987, that worked for me on a PCLinuxOS live cd. Unity might be different
[23:26] <Isodoom> kubblai: Hmm no idee, but if it help i have an Acer Predator g3610
[23:26] <histo> ubuntunoob: it should have can you pastebin the output of lsblk
[23:27] <histo> ubuntunoob: s/should/shouldn't/
[23:27] <ubuntunoob> i backed up a lot of things on D but i THINK i WIPED d
[23:27] <kubblai> First thing then is to check bios for secure boot and just turn it off, then check your bios boot order, then do your boot fixing thingy Isodoom
[23:27] <histo> ubuntunoob: well we won't know until you can show the output of lsblk
[23:28] <ubuntunoob> how do i even get into terminal
[23:28] <cartusia> ctrl+alt+T
[23:28] <Isodoom> kubblai: ok, will try it ^^
[23:28] <histo> ubuntunoob: ctrl+alt+t or click the dash button and begin typing terminal
[23:28] <Isodoom> But funny, on all other Computer I even can use Wubi to install Ubuntu.
[23:29] <histo> Isodoom: wubi doesn't work on uefi systems
[23:29] <histo> !wubi | Isodoom
[23:29] <cartusia> ughh my stupid compiz is always breaking down, what do I do in such a case I downloaded Ubuntu 12.10
[23:29] <histo> !details | cartusia
[23:29] <cartusia> right now I am managing without the GUI
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> cartusia, Are you sure it is compiz and not a graphic driver, say a proprietary one?
[23:30] <cartusia> Probably
[23:30] <cartusia> I tried installing the AMD graphics driver
[23:30] <cartusia> and then afterword it broke
[23:30] <ubuntunoob> histo: http://pastebin.com/sHBy5HzZ
[23:30] <cartusia> I have HD 7970 Radeon
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> cartusia, From where?
[23:30] <cartusia> from the Settings
[23:31] <histo> ubuntunoob: well there's only one disk showing up there are you sure you have two hard drives?
[23:31] <cartusia> cant recall what its called sorry >.<
[23:31] <cartusia> it was running on x/org
[23:31] <cartusia> is there anyway from the terminal I can't revert that process?
[23:31] <cartusia> how do I open the settings from the terminal?
[23:31] <BlackHarvest> histo: the jdk 1.7
[23:32] <histo> BlackHarvest: any reason you aren't using the repos?
[23:32] <BlackHarvest> histo: I just ended up at the guide on the oracle website... how do I use the repos?
[23:32] <histo> BlackHarvest: the software center
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> cartusia, I see a number of threads at askubuntu.com on 7970 Radeon
[23:33] <cartusia> how can I change my root pass :( when I dont know what it is.
[23:33] <histo> !root | cartusia
[23:33] <BlackHarvest> histo: I only see OpenJDK... I need to install oracle's jdk
[23:34] <ubuntunoob> histo: 300 GB?  my laptop had two hard drives, but maybe it's a formatting thing where it pretends 2 partitions are separate drives
[23:34] <histo> BlackHarvest: enable the partner software source in system settings > software sources
[23:34] <histo> ubuntunoob: most likely. I'm not familiar with your hardware but it's rare for laptops to have more than one hard drive.
[23:34] <ubuntunoob> I had C and D
[23:34] <BlackHarvest> histo: It doesn't look like I have a system settings -> software sources
[23:34] <ubuntunoob> i gues they were partitionsw
[23:35] <histo> ubuntunoob: How important or how much value did the data on the other partition have to you?
[23:35] <ubuntunoob> i thought i was only reformatting C
[23:35] <ubuntunoob> i had a lot of stuff, man
[23:35] <histo> BlackHarvest: look in the software center at the top the files menu to enable other sources
[23:35] <ubuntunoob> oh well
[23:35] <BlackHarvest> histo: Oh, it's in the dropdown menu of the software center
[23:35] <histo> !partner | BlackHarvest
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> BlackHarvest, webup8 has java7 and 8 info, so does the ubuntu java wiki on oracles load. http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[23:36] <histo> ubuntunoob: well you maybe able to recover some of it. Depends on how it was partitioned etc.. and if it's worth your time for recovery.
[23:37] <ubuntunoob> histo:
[23:38] <ubuntunoob> histo: how?
[23:38] <Isodoom> !wubi
[23:39] <MKCoin> can someone recommend me a good process monitor? The default one doesn't work properly for me
[23:39] <histo> !testdisk | ubuntunoob
[23:39] <histo> ubottu: the testdisk program can help recover lost partitions and filesystems
[23:40] <histo> ubuntunoob: the testdisk program can help recover lost partitions and filesystems
[23:40] <wilee-nilee> MKCoin, I use a conky, for basic info top or htop work well, depends on what you actually want, can you tell us that.
[23:40] <ubuntunoob> thanks
[23:41] <MKCoin> basically the same thing system monitor provides, quick lookup of which processes are running, the process tree, and memory, CPU, CPU time, i/o
[23:41] <histo> ubuntunoob: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[23:41] <BlackHarvest> wilee-nilee: thanks, this is helpful
[23:41] <MKCoin> The default one has this strange bug for me all of a sudden where it sort of freezes between updates and the selector moves
[23:42] <w_a> is it posible to list the nameservers so the dhcp server has given out ?
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> MKCoin, 2nd hit on goggle with "process monitor ubuntu" as the foo http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/5-system-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu
[23:42] <w_a> from terminal
[23:42] <MKCoin> alright thanks
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[23:44] <w_a> did fnd it  /etc/resolv.conf
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> MKCoin, I just that is a bit of a older link so be aware of that.
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> noticed*
[23:45] <MKCoin> ah, see I am looking for System Monitor basically, just one that works properly for me, so I'll look for clones of it
[23:45] <histo> MKCoin: htop
[23:45] <wilee-nilee> MKCoin, Some pretty cool conkies that people set up.
[23:46] <wilee-nilee> +1 on htop as an all around use
[23:46] <MKCoin> ok
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> BlackHarvest, Cool the java stuff can be confusing, I have no idea what it actually does, except I seem to need it, lol.
[23:47] <BlackHarvest> wilee-nilee: hehe
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> like many other things in life
[23:48] <arthur_> Hi
[23:49] <xmetal> speaking of java ... a cup sounds pretty good right about now
[23:49] <cartusia> alright :) uninstalled the AMD and the Compiz is back again
[23:50] <cartusia> but it looks like there is hardware acceleration
[23:50] <cartusia> no*
[23:50] <arthur_> When I try booting into Ubuntu I get out of range screen resolution errors
[23:50] <arthur_> I tried following these: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[23:51] <arthur_> but all the files it tells me to edit don't exist
[23:51] <arthur_> What do I do?
[23:51] <PersonalProblem> xmetal, /me passes xmetal a cup
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> cartusia, Problem with graphic drivers is the manufacturers of the hardware are not making linux drivers by and large just a few, so many are forked and tweaked and reversed engineered to be used in linux and ubuntu.
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> the majority of linux  is server use, no gui
[23:54] <xmetal> i do have to say my boot issue with the graphics in Mate 15 was fixed with a kernal upgrade .. .Cin (instaled with the Cin 15 packages) is slow loading though ... Cin 14 loads almost instantly on the same PC
[23:54] <xmetal> oh well :)
[23:54] <xmetal> oops
[23:54] <xmetal> wrong room sorry
[23:54] <xmetal> channel hoping
[23:55] <wilee-nilee> he said mint get'em boys
[23:55] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[23:55] <xmetal> =))
[23:55] <xmetal> at least i didn't say i was on Vista :P
[23:55] <wilee-nilee> hehe
[23:56] <arthur_> can somebody help me with my screen resolution problem please? :(
[23:56] <WakaFlockaFlame> about the cd/dvd config on http://en.kioskea.net/faq/2800-linux-extend-your-laptop-s-battery-life does it not ever scan for new disks
[23:56] <WakaFlockaFlame> i need some help on this
[23:56] <histo> arthur_: xorg.conf doesn't exist by default but you can create one
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> arthur_, In that link the xrandr info is what you want, look closer there, good luck
[23:57] <WakaFlockaFlame> the pref is CONTROL_HAL_POLLING=1
[23:57] <WakaFlockaFlame> In the file: /etc/laptop-mode/conf.d/hal-polling.conf
[23:57] <arthur_> .xprofile doesn't exist either
[23:58] <Lope> is there any encrypted filesystem for backup purposes that you can mount on windows that also preserves UNIX file permissions? (can't use TAR)
[23:58] <wilee-nilee> WakaFlockaFlame, extending battery life is like chasing bigfoot
[23:58] <Lope> truecrypt only mounts in windows if its NTFS. doesn't work with ext2fs
[23:58] <WakaFlockaFlame> yeah i know
[23:58] <WakaFlockaFlame> very hard
[23:59] <arthur_> OOps
[23:59] <arthur_> I linked to the wrong thing
[23:59] <arthur_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Resolution
[23:59] <WakaFlockaFlame> i know not many effects will be shown
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> WakaFlockaFlame, not gonna happen in any real measurable way, get a battery that has longer life.
[23:59] <WakaFlockaFlame> i just got a new battery
[23:59] <WakaFlockaFlame> in june