[01:18] <micahg> ochosi: re: 4.11 settings, if we're not taking 4.12 for the LTS, I'd rather not, if we are, I don't mind as much
[01:18] <micahg> that's why a clear roadmap would help
[01:19] <micahg> ochosi: but as mr_pouit is much more connected to upstream, I'll leave him to the decision and I'll be happy to push it if he agrees
[04:32] <pleia2> Unit193: in case you didn't see, I gave you superpowers on the calendar too so you can update it
[04:32] <pleia2> (both knome and I are traveling this weekend)
[04:32] <Unit193> I got the hint, figured it'd be the same time too.  I'll be out as well.
[04:32] <pleia2> :)
[04:33] <Unit193> Danke.
[06:43] <ochosi> why is jono the only one for whom xmir and xubuntu work flawlessly
[06:44] <Unit193> I have no idea, was thinking that, and wondering if he's looking as critically.
[06:44] <elfy> I'm not cynical
[06:44] <Unit193> Or, all his bugs were ironed out early, and he's using one of the few 100% working computers. :P
[06:45] <Noskcaj> Unit193, i read the irc logs and realised why you sent me the magnet link. I'll test in Vbox a bit, but i don't have time to get real hardware going till next week.
[06:45] <Unit193> Then it's pointless to test.
[06:46] <ochosi> maybe he has never used xubuntu before and thinks it's supposed to be as bad as it is with xmir?
[06:47] <elfy> ochosi: lol
[06:49] <Unit193> Made me laugh, that's bad...
[06:50] <Unit193> Also I was right to say it was GridCube. :P
[06:51] <Noskcaj> Unit193, I still think some bugs will show up in a VM. maybe even some VM only ones
[06:52] <Unit193> Noskcaj: For xorg, but we're trying to test XMir with this setup, otherwise it's almost a daily.  You're free to try, but it just won't be Mir.
[06:52] <Noskcaj> Unit193, even if i use the iso from you it will be normal Xorg?
[06:53]  * Noskcaj assumes he looks stupid for some reason now
[06:53] <Unit193> Yes, as explained in the email and online. :P
[06:53] <Unit193> (The xorg, your appearance isn't explained online that I've seen.)
[06:54] <Noskcaj> On another topic. what's the status on getting settings 4.11 into 13.10? I've just fixed thunar 1.6.3 so it can be debian synced too, so hopefully that can go in.
[07:29] <cub> Good morning Unit193, I got the same problem with new 64bit xmir iso. I just won't boot. Weird since I've used the same procedure and equipment as I do for all other installations...
[17:54] <Unit193> I'd take it people interested saw http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com/msg05871.html already?  Couple interesting links within.
[17:59] <ochosi> Unit193: wow, seems there are quite some roadblocks ahead...
[18:01] <Unit193> http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com/msg05872.html and exactly what I had thought a while ago. :P
[18:04] <ochosi> hehe, yeah
[18:06] <elfy> they've got until the 21st - I'll check then 
[18:37] <skellat> Unit193: Multi-monitor was the ultimate blocker for mr_pouit so let us hope for some miracles in the 13 days ahead
[18:38] <Unit193> But, that's not the only blocker on my list, so just that wouldn't do it.
[18:39] <skellat> Oh, I know.
[18:39] <skellat> Those are still some major hurdles to be cleared.
[18:52] <ochosi> yup, also the lack of proprietary driver support is bugging me
[18:53] <Unit193> ochosi: The lack of working properly bugs me...
[22:39] <Unit193> Ouch, we're pulling in more of systemd than we did even in raring.
[22:39] <Unit193> libpam-systemd, libsystemd-daemon0, libsystemd-journal0, libsystemd-login0, systemd-services, and systemd-shim.
[22:43] <lderan> i see
[23:54] <skellat> Unit193: Why are we pulling in that much of systemd?  What dependencies are triggering it?
[23:54] <Unit193> I don't know, haven't been able to look yet.
[23:55] <GridCube> Unit193, im zsyncking the iso, its diferent from the 0.8.8 mir we tested the other day. correct?
[23:56] <Unit193> GridCube: A little, couple things fixed.  This isn't the main one in repos yet, that didn't have many interesting fixes.  Biggest ones you'll notice are TTYs work.
[23:57] <GridCube> oh
[23:57] <GridCube> well