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dw5304yea i tried it with and without00:00
dw5304just testing00:00
dw5304nothing more00:00
GridCubemmm what about alsamixer?00:00
GridCubemaybe hdmi is mutted in alsamixer?00:00
dw5304http://i.snag.gy/1zl5u.jpg00:02
GridCubemmm yeah thats the same i have00:03
GridCubeweird00:03
dw5304lol yep00:03
GridCubecan you paste me the line from lspci | grep "Audio"00:04
GridCubethe hdmi one00:05
GridCubewell maybe you have to do the boot options thingy00:06
GridCubehttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/ati-rs690-780-hdmi-not-available-on-debian-but-fully-fuctioning-on-ubuntu-873660/00:06
GridCubehttp://code-excerpts.blogspot.com.ar/2012/12/no-sound-on-linux-mint-14-nadia-through.html00:07
GridCubehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/77500700:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 775007 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "[SOLVED] [HP Pavilion dv5 Notebook PC, ATI RS690/780 HDMI, Digital Out, HDMI] No sound at all" [Undecided,Invalid]00:07
dw530400:41.2 audio device : advanced microdevices inc. [Amd/ati] SBx00 AZalia (Intel HDA)00:07
GridCubesee this dw5304 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/775007/comments/400:08
dw530401:05.2 audio device : advance micro devices inc [amd/ati] rs690 HDMI Audio[radeon xpress 1200 series]00:08
dw5304k00:08
dw5304hum no preferance options...00:11
GridCubethe last tab you pasted earlier00:11
dw5304ah ok00:11
GridCubeits the same menu, just another way to reach it in mainbuntu00:11
dw5304ah00:12
dw5304no listed option for internal audio00:13
dw5304http://i.snag.gy/4gWNt.jpg ,  http://i.snag.gy/o5fqC.jpg00:15
dw5304im currently installing the amd catalyst driver see if that will fix it00:29
dw5304welp that broke it00:35
dw5304lol00:35
dw5304boots a a pertty purple screen with black dashes on it00:35
dw5304was able to see the boot screen btw00:35
jonzen12.10 have tried bash scripts  caffiene  uninstalled screensaver turned off power management 5 dif ways i read to shut dowm dpms but it alwats comes back and every 10 mins during movie on vlc the screen blanks  can any1 tell me how to shut all this off perm00:43
GridCubedw5304, can you log into a tty?00:49
GridCubejonzen, in power management set the monitor power saving to 0 and it will never pop up00:51
dw5304gridcube i can00:51
GridCubeand by pop up i mean shut down00:51
dw5304no sorry i just reloaded thebox :)00:51
dw5304so its freshagain :)00:51
GridCubedw5304, then remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf and you should boot to default drivers again if you cant see the desktop anymore00:52
jonzenhave it set to never  still blanks 10 min into a movie00:53
jonzenscreensaver disabled00:53
jonzeninstalled cafienne  no go with it either00:54
GridCubeno, no screensaver00:54
GridCubejust powersettings00:54
GridCubethe monitor goes to standby to save energy00:54
GridCubeyou have to disable that00:54
jonzenyes  i have that set to never00:54
GridCubemmmhm00:55
jonzenhad powermanager shut down   unchecked from autostart  still did it00:56
GridCubeand screensaver is disabled and un-installed00:56
jonzenyep yep00:56
GridCubeweird00:57
GridCubei havent had that issue in a whole long time00:57
GridCubei had it back in 08-0900:57
jonzenbeen usin ubuntu and xubu since 2009  never had it00:58
GridCubethats when i learn that mplayer do send the signal to never shut down the monitor, thats why i use smplayer as my default player00:58
jonzenima reboot  reset all in powerman   try again00:59
daohaus1Im a noob to xubuntu and having a puzzling experience with the sound setting01:02
GridCube!details | daohaus101:02
ubottudaohaus1: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."01:02
daohaus1when the laptop boots up the output is set to headphones and i get no sound at all only after I reboot into XP and then restart into xubuntu01:03
daohaus1i go back into the sound control and it then shows that my sound output is SPEAKER01:03
daohaus1no clue why it's doing this01:03
GridCubein pavucontrol the last tab shows you sound presets, you can choose there if the preset its for headphones or speakers and what kind of speakers01:04
GridCubesome laptops have a feature that indicates when a headphone has been plugged and send a signal to the system so it changes its preset01:04
GridCubeyour computer might be sending this signal wrong01:05
GridCubeor xubuntu might be interpreting it wrong01:05
daohaus1that's the thing gridcube it doesn't give any options it's set to headphones or speakers01:05
GridCubedaohaus1, can you screenshot the last tab of pavucontrol please?01:05
daohaus1sure01:06
daohaus1ok this is a 1st for me on irc how to i post up a pic on this01:09
GridCubepress print screen, save the image, upload to a image hoster like imgur or any other you fancy01:10
daohaus1oh ok duh...sorry01:10
daohaus1one moment pls01:10
daohaus1http://public.fotki.com/foofighter/misc_photos/screenshot-08082013.html01:11
GridCubeamong those profiles there is no headphones?01:12
daohaus1how i know my speakers work is when xubuntu starts to load my speakers do this crackle01:12
daohaus1nope none01:12
GridCubemmhm01:13
daohaus1and when it's in headphones theres no selection for speakers01:13
GridCubeinteresting01:13
daohaus1that's what is really weird01:13
dw5304grindcube i figged it out on my end01:13
dw5304tv is stupid01:13
dw5304:)01:13
GridCubedw5304, what was it?01:13
daohaus1and it only works after i reboot and go into xp and reboot again it works01:13
dw5304tv dont support audio over rca01:14
dw5304with hdmi01:14
dw5304but hdmi dont work :)01:14
dw5304no issues01:14
dw5304but rca does to hook up to media01:14
dw5304sound sound01:14
dw5304and call it a day :)01:14
daohaus1brb01:14
dw5304lol not worth the time01:15
larzconwellFor some reason I can't get a xubuntu liveusb to boot using a uefi system. I'm following along here, but no luck. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Installing_Ubuntu_in_EFI_mode01:23
daohaus1ok im back @gridcube01:37
GridCubedaohaus1, what model is your audio?01:53
daohaus1@gridcube some analog sound card01:57
nonubyodd issue nearly every other reboot (seems more so after apt-get upgrade) the theme reset to a white panel bar in xfce, next reboot its back to a black panel bar (greybird)02:38
xubuntu969hola?03:42
xubuntu969hiii03:44
wiakjo03:45
sirstoniusHello all. Can anybody help me replicate how my touchpad works in windows? In windows I can double-tap the upper left corner to lock my touchpad but it does not work in xubuntu/xfce... Anybody know how to solve this?04:27
holsteinsirstonius: could depend on hardware driver support.. i would try and get used to how the touchpad i working.. then i would try a few GUI config tools.. then, consider xset commands or an xorg.conf04:30
sirstoniusholstein:  are there any GUI config tools you reccomend?04:30
sirstoniusnever had to mess with touchpad before.. always had linux installed on desktops :)04:31
holsteinsirstonius: the "mouse" or "touchpad" tool in the GUI.. assuming the hardware is showing up as a touchpad04:32
holstein!touchpad04:32
ubottuFor a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad04:32
sirstoniusawesome.. ty mate04:32
holsteinsirstonius: you may not have a synaptics touchpad...04:32
sirstoniusholstein:  I believe i do.. but not 100% sure. When I goto the 'Mouse and Touchpad' screen in system settings my Device is listed as 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad'04:33
holsteinsirstonius: then, *if* it is, that guide will be helpful04:34
sirstoniusokay. thank yous04:39
sirstoniushmmm i either overlooked it or my problem is not listed under that link. more google time04:57
holsteinsirstonius: to be fair, you dont have a problem. you want functionality that may or may not be able to be added with the driver available for the hardware you are running that is intended to run another operating system04:58
sirstoniusholstein:  True. I guess I am just curious if anybody else has gotten this to work.04:59
holsteinsirstonius: i, and most others just use the screen lock05:00
sirstoniusLike lock the entire screen?05:00
holsteinsirstonius: if you are talking about "lock", like "disable touchpad while typing".. i have had hit and miss luck with that05:01
holsteinsirstonius: thats what "lock" means to me05:01
sirstoniusholstein:  sorta.. I got the disable touchpad while typing option working already.. I was just talking about disabling my touchpad completely by double tapping the upper left corner. Then an orange LED came on to show me it was locked. I do this because sometimes when I'm playing a game my kitten will lay on my lap and end up moving my cursor via the touchpad.05:02
holsteinsirstonius: that could be anything.. software.. a driver.. who knows.. hardware specific05:03
holsteinsirstonius: im sure there are ways to disable the touchpad with the keyboard.. a keyboard shortcut or something similar05:03
sirstoniusholstein:  for sure. I will probably still try to see if I may able to get it to work. But thank you for your help and time05:05
holsteinsirstonius: sure.. you wont likely get that to work exactly like that ever.. but like i said you wil easily be able to script something that disables the touchpad with a keyboard combonation... good luck!05:06
dave4925_this is weird, I created a folder called pennies in my home directory in the terminal , but it is not showing up in file manager05:50
baizondave4925_: what command have you entered?05:51
baizonwere you in the home dir?05:52
dave4925_yes05:53
baizondave4925_: use catfish and search for that directory05:54
dave4925_oh nm I was in ssh DUH!05:55
baizondave4925_: so problem solved :)05:58
dave4925_how can I install libdb4.8++-dev ?06:46
koegsdave4925_: which ubuntu-version?06:51
koegsand do you need 4.8 exactly?06:51
koegshttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libdb%2B%2B-dev&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all06:51
dave4925_xubuntu 13.1006:59
dave4925_its listed as a dependency on all of the qt digital coin clients06:59
dave4925_Build instructions07:00
dave4925_Debian07:00
dave4925_First, make sure that the required packages for Qt4 development of your distribution are installed, for Debian and Ubuntu these are:07:00
dave4925_apt-get install qt4-qmake libqt4-dev build-essential libboost-dev libboost-system-dev \07:00
dave4925_    libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-thread-dev \07:00
dave4925_    libssl-dev libdb4.8++-dev07:00
bazhang!info libdb4.8++-dev saucy07:12
ubottuPackage libdb4.8++-dev does not exist in saucy07:12
bazhangdave4925_, ^07:12
Sysi!info libdb++-dev saucy07:14
ubottulibdb++-dev (source: db-defaults): Berkeley Database Libraries for C++ [development]. In component main, is extra. Version 5.1.6 (saucy), package size 2 kB, installed size 26 kB07:14
Sysi!info libdb5.1++-dev saucy07:14
ubottulibdb5.1++-dev (source: db): Berkeley v5.1 Database Libraries for C++ [development]. In component main, is extra. Version 5.1.29-5ubuntu8 (saucy), package size 1693 kB, installed size 4474 kB07:14
SysiI guess newer one should have features of the older one07:14
dave4925_maybe - but that's not always the case07:17
dave4925_and I remember reading about some bug or incompatibility caused by version 507:17
dave4925_I was taught that libs were backwards compatible.  But in reality that's not the case07:18
Sysithen you'll probably need to compile the libs first07:18
dave4925_why compile?07:21
Sysibecause it's not in the repositories07:22
Sysithough I don't know if libs need to be compiled, I like to avoid suck things07:23
dave4925_oh I found them in packages.ubuntu.com07:24
bazhangfor which version07:25
bazhang13.10 support is in #ubuntu+1 , and you do not want to mix packages from different repo versions07:26
boolWhy the fuck are you releasing a Xubuntu version that randomly logs out?!08:58
xubuntu246giorno c'è nessunp?09:04
leoquantbool "we" don't release09:08
leoquant"we" support09:08
TheSheep!language bool09:09
TheSheep!language | bool09:09
ubottubool: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.09:09
booli am frustrated09:09
boolsorry09:09
TheSheepbool: :)09:09
boolthink im going for another distro09:09
TheSheepbool: good luck09:09
boolhaving random trouble with xubuntu for a long time09:10
TheSheepbool: if that repeats with other distros, it may be a hardware problem09:10
TheSheepbool: like failing memory or disk09:10
TheSheepor overclocked cpu09:10
Noskcajbool, what version are you running?09:11
boolsome of the trouble i've been having is spdif output turning off randomly, logging out randomly, screen goes blank when watching movies even if i have told it not to09:12
Sysiwhat graphics card do you have?09:12
booli always run latest version, it is not a hardware problem and i use nvidia09:13
boolit is entirely xubuntus fault09:13
boolsorry09:13
SysiLTS might work better09:13
boolthink i am going for mint kde edition09:13
leoquantSysi, +109:13
TheSheepI assume you have traced the problem to a particular part of xubuntu, if you are so confident, and have reported the bugs?09:14
TheSheepor is it just a gut feeling?09:14
Sysihope you'll get it to work09:14
boolthe locking thin is xubuntu, the spdif is probably some sort of combination of packages that xubuntu uses and the last think about blank screen is a xfce/xorg problem09:15
TheSheepbool: since practically all other distros also use xorg, you are in a pretty dire situation09:16
boolthe screen locking thing is actually a reported bug, many weeks ago, but it has not been sorted09:16
boolTheSheep, it is a xfce problem09:16
TheSheepbool: can we help somehow?09:17
booli wanted to create an xorg file to try to fix the locking problem, but each time i kill x it automatically restarts, so I am unable to create an xorg.conf file with Xorg -configure09:18
Sysiservice lightdm stop09:19
TheSheepsudo09:19
TheSheepsudo service lightdm stop09:19
TheSheepand when you finish, sudo service lightdm start09:19
boolok, thanks09:19
Noskcajbool, once again, what version are you running. swapping to the LTS version should fix any bugs09:19
boolNoskcaj, i just run the regular xubuntu latast version09:20
Noskcajbool, 13.10 or 13.04?09:20
bool13.0409:20
Noskcajok.09:20
boolis that ok?09:21
Noskcajtry what the guys above said as you seem to know your stuff, if not, 12.04 is the most stable release09:21
TheSheeptrying a different distro to see if the problems persist may also be a good idea, actually09:21
TheSheepit's not like xubuntu is the best for everyone and everything09:22
booli have been running linux mint cinnamon on my other desktop, seemed really nice and stable. I also love the ability to search in the start menu. The KDE edition however has even more snap points for windows09:23
Tm_TKubuntu ♥09:23
* Tm_T crawls back to their cave09:23
boolTm_T, mint kde edition actually is better and more polished than kubuntu09:24
Tm_Tbool: I'd disagree, but that's all offtopic09:24
boolTm_T, kubuntu is just a collection of packages... you can configure arch linux to be like kubuntu. mint kde has done work to get it more polished and includes more system tools09:25
Tm_Tas said, this would be offtopic, should we continue on, let's say, #kubuntu-offtopic or some other offtopic channel instead?09:26
booli have said what is needed09:26
Tm_Tas you wish09:29
Shadow}}I need help with setting up OpenVPN...09:53
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xubuntu529I have a fresh install of XUbuntu 12.04 on a Panasonic Toughbook CF-28 which I have run the same version on for months before the new install. I just did the 3.2.0-51-generic update and now I get a blank screen on boot everywhere except recovery.14:02
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Carlinhoshow does xubuntu embed nm-applet in indicator applet rather than notification area? i'd like to replicate that in other distros.15:57
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flipshi, on xubuntu 12.04.2, where do I find the session files/setup files for the guest session?19:29
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Guest9975so i have problem with installing chrominum on xubuntu, i downloaded it from google and then it opens it in software center but it wont install it just leaves this message : Software can't be installed or removed because the authentication service is not available. (org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name':  ':1.69'}): org.debian.apt.install-file20:15
holsteinGuest9975: you dont "download chromium from google"20:16
Guest9975from website20:16
well_laid_lawn!info chromium20:17
ubottuPackage chromium does not exist in raring20:17
holsteinGuest9975: to install chromium... "sudo apt-get install chromium-browser20:17
holsteinGuest9975: that is "chrome".. not chromium..20:17
holstein!info chromium-browser20:17
ubottuchromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 28.0.1500.71-0ubuntu1.13.04.1 (raring), package size 31077 kB, installed size 117022 kB20:17
Guest9975when i try to run it in terminal it display this E: Unable to locate package chrominum-browser20:17
holsteinGuest9975: because, that is spelled incorrectly20:18
DoverMoGuest9975, what i just posted. chromium-browser is avaliabe in universe20:18
holsteinGuest9975: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser .. you can use "tab" to auto-complete20:18
holsteinsudo apt-get install chro "tab".. then at "sudo apt-get install chromium-" type "br" and hit "tab" to complete20:19
justakillWhat package do I need for the timit module in xubuntu20:21
Guest9975i think i got it20:21
justakill?20:21
justakilli'm surprized it dosn't come standard20:21
justakillfor python that is20:21
Guest9975what chrome?20:21
holsteinGuest9975: chrome is not chromium. they are 2 different applications20:21
Guest9975in which way?20:22
holsteinGuest9975: the general and only way, friend20:22
holsteinGuest9975: they are not the sam20:22
holsteinsame*20:22
Guest9975i still dont get it20:22
Guest9975like for windows is chrome and linux is chromium right?20:22
holsteinthere is a chrome browser.. a commercial product from google.. there is chromium.. and open source product20:22
holsteinGuest9975: no20:23
bgardnerGuest9975: No20:23
holsteinGuest9975: chrome and chromium are different.. and can each be run on windows or linux20:23
Guest9975didnt realise that20:23
bgardnerjustakill: Are you talking about the NTLK Python timit module?20:23
bgardnerjustakill: *NLTK20:23
DoverMoGuest9975, chromium is the open source, base browser. and google chrome is built on top of it with more features20:23
Sysichrome has pdf reader and flash integrated20:24
justakillbgardner: No the standard timit modult20:25
justakillmodule*20:25
GNUdru1to simplify, Chromium is an indie production and is a more Free/Libre Open Source (FLOSS) form of Chrome (which controlled by "Let's do lots of evil and make boatloads of money" Google Incraperated)20:25
justakillbgardner: I feel like you're going to tell me it should be on my harddrive already.20:25
holsteinnot sure if "boatloads" of money come in from software offered for free. but the fact is, they are different.. and choose which ever you want to use20:26
maitakei like chromium better only because it's logo is blue20:26
holsteinchromium is in the default repos20:26
bgardnerjustakill: If you mean the timit module inside of python-nltk, then no you probably need to sudo apt-get install python-nltk20:26
bgardnerjustakill: That's the only 'timit module' I can find a reference for.  Did you mean something else?20:26
maitakehey, google isn't so bad GNUdru120:27
GNUdru1Google takes Free software and turns it into semi-proprietary software and makes boatloads of money off of advertising and such20:27
maitakeso? i can't remember the last time i've felt like their ads were intrusive20:27
maitakeand every service is free20:27
GNUdru1Google has gone evil.  let's face it folks20:27
holsteinplease discuss "preferences" in the off-topic channel. and use whichever browser you prefer20:27
GNUdru1no cost does not mean good.20:28
justakillbgardner: Oh wait you're right I though it was standard python library maybe I need another module. I want to test the speed of some functions? Maybe you know what I need?20:28
GNUdru1and no cost doesn't mean Free as in Freedom.  Freedom is good.20:28
maitakei just think your definition of "evil" might be a little far fetched20:29
holsteinGNUdru1: i didnt mean to imply it was "good", or that that was my opinion.. please visit #xubuntu-offtopic for discussion20:29
maitakeanyway i'll be in #xubuntu-offtopic if you want to discuss more20:29
GNUdru1Google is partnering with the NSA to eliminate freedom.  Google is evil, whatever they may have started it as.  Ah yes holstein, will do. :-)20:29
maitakelol20:30
bgardner!ot20:30
ubottu#xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!20:30
justakillbgardner: this is what I ment http://docs.python.org/3/library/debug.html20:31
bgardnerjustakill: Yes, or here: http://docs.python.org/2/library/profile.html20:31
bgardnerjustakill: You might want to go ask on #python for more.20:32
justakillbgardner: I will do that20:33
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Guest2024Hello, I am having an issue with Xubuntu 12.04.  My audio is no longer working, it was working but now nothing.20:54
Guest2024Any ideas?20:54
DoverMoGuest2024, reinstall pulseaudio D: ?20:55
DoverMoGuest2024, then reboot20:55
Guest2024I shall try.  THanks20:55
DoverMoor service pulseaudio restart would have worked xD20:58
DoverMowoops20:59
Unit193!audio | cheap shot. ;P20:59
ubottucheap shot. ;P: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.20:59
xubuntu444hi22:22
David-Ahi22:22
xubuntu444am very impressed, the xubuntu install is very slick22:23
xubuntu444congratulations Xubuntu team!22:23
Schrodinger`Cathey22:51
Schrodinger`Catwhy a fresh Xubuntu 13.04 or 12.04 always tell  "crash report detected" ?22:51
akoviahi, i'm trying to install a brand new copy of 12.04.2-64 on a brand new alienware with win 7. for some reason i never see an option to install beside withdows unless i have another drive installed. windows boots fine and i've tried bootrec /fixmbr and /fixboot in win system recovery console, but it makes no difference22:54
David-A!uefi23:36
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI23:36
David-Aakovia: I dont know if uefi is a problem with that particular hardware, but check the above link if there are any clues23:37
akoviaDavid-A: thanks but I read that before even starting23:38
David-Aakovia: some laptops use 4 primary partitions (windows, recovery, something, and bios), then it is not easy to just add another 1 or 2 partitions for linux, without messing with either the bios or windows partitions making one of them non-primary. I guess the install program is not bold enough to try it.23:42
akoviaDavid-A: That's most likely the problem. Have you seen any information regarding installing around this cluster-f***?23:45
David-Aakovia: you have to be bold enough and re-partition manually, possibly drop some bios functionality or move recovery info to an external device, or verify that the windows partition can be changed to a secondary partition without bad side-effects23:46
akoviaDavid-A: hmmm, if I select "Something Else" i have the following 7 lines, 2 are free space at 1 & 0 MB, sda1=efi@524MB, sda2=fat32@41MB, sda3=unknown@134MB, sda4=ntfs@10949MB, and sda=ntfs@988553MB. Holy crap what a mess23:51
akoviaDavid-A: btw, it an Aurora desktop and not a laptop. just got it today and I can't even load my OS =(23:52
akoviasomehow I doubt Dell will help23:52
David-Aakovia: maybe you can shrink the "sda5(?) 988GB" and add a couple of new partitions at the end. dont re-partition in the install program, but use gparted in a live session, or better use a repartition tool in windows23:57
akoviaDavid-A: ok thanks for the tip. I'm a long time user of xubuntu so i will stick with ubuntu tools as I've never even owned windows 7 before. :P23:58
David-Aakovia: (i've read, or i think i've read, that a repartition tool for windows is safer to use when resizing an ntfs partition)23:59
akoviahmm23:59

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