[00:00] yea i tried it with and without [00:00] just testing [00:00] nothing more [00:00] mmm what about alsamixer? [00:00] maybe hdmi is mutted in alsamixer? [00:02] http://i.snag.gy/1zl5u.jpg [00:03] mmm yeah thats the same i have [00:03] weird [00:03] lol yep [00:04] can you paste me the line from lspci | grep "Audio" [00:05] the hdmi one [00:06] well maybe you have to do the boot options thingy [00:06] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/ati-rs690-780-hdmi-not-available-on-debian-but-fully-fuctioning-on-ubuntu-873660/ [00:07] http://code-excerpts.blogspot.com.ar/2012/12/no-sound-on-linux-mint-14-nadia-through.html [00:07] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/775007 [00:07] Launchpad bug 775007 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "[SOLVED] [HP Pavilion dv5 Notebook PC, ATI RS690/780 HDMI, Digital Out, HDMI] No sound at all" [Undecided,Invalid] [00:07] 00:41.2 audio device : advanced microdevices inc. [Amd/ati] SBx00 AZalia (Intel HDA) [00:08] see this dw5304 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/775007/comments/4 [00:08] 01:05.2 audio device : advance micro devices inc [amd/ati] rs690 HDMI Audio[radeon xpress 1200 series] [00:08] k [00:11] hum no preferance options... [00:11] the last tab you pasted earlier [00:11] ah ok [00:11] its the same menu, just another way to reach it in mainbuntu [00:12] ah [00:13] no listed option for internal audio [00:15] http://i.snag.gy/4gWNt.jpg , http://i.snag.gy/o5fqC.jpg [00:29] im currently installing the amd catalyst driver see if that will fix it [00:35] welp that broke it [00:35] lol [00:35] boots a a pertty purple screen with black dashes on it [00:35] was able to see the boot screen btw [00:43] 12.10 have tried bash scripts caffiene uninstalled screensaver turned off power management 5 dif ways i read to shut dowm dpms but it alwats comes back and every 10 mins during movie on vlc the screen blanks can any1 tell me how to shut all this off perm [00:49] dw5304, can you log into a tty? [00:51] jonzen, in power management set the monitor power saving to 0 and it will never pop up [00:51] gridcube i can [00:51] and by pop up i mean shut down [00:51] no sorry i just reloaded thebox :) [00:51] so its freshagain :) [00:52] dw5304, then remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf and you should boot to default drivers again if you cant see the desktop anymore [00:53] have it set to never still blanks 10 min into a movie [00:53] screensaver disabled [00:54] installed cafienne no go with it either [00:54] no, no screensaver [00:54] just powersettings [00:54] the monitor goes to standby to save energy [00:54] you have to disable that [00:54] yes i have that set to never [00:55] mmmhm [00:56] had powermanager shut down unchecked from autostart still did it [00:56] and screensaver is disabled and un-installed [00:56] yep yep [00:57] weird [00:57] i havent had that issue in a whole long time [00:57] i had it back in 08-09 [00:58] been usin ubuntu and xubu since 2009 never had it [00:58] thats when i learn that mplayer do send the signal to never shut down the monitor, thats why i use smplayer as my default player [00:59] ima reboot reset all in powerman try again [01:02] Im a noob to xubuntu and having a puzzling experience with the sound setting [01:02] !details | daohaus1 [01:02] daohaus1: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [01:03] when the laptop boots up the output is set to headphones and i get no sound at all only after I reboot into XP and then restart into xubuntu [01:03] i go back into the sound control and it then shows that my sound output is SPEAKER [01:03] no clue why it's doing this [01:04] in pavucontrol the last tab shows you sound presets, you can choose there if the preset its for headphones or speakers and what kind of speakers [01:04] some laptops have a feature that indicates when a headphone has been plugged and send a signal to the system so it changes its preset [01:05] your computer might be sending this signal wrong [01:05] or xubuntu might be interpreting it wrong [01:05] that's the thing gridcube it doesn't give any options it's set to headphones or speakers [01:05] daohaus1, can you screenshot the last tab of pavucontrol please? [01:06] sure [01:09] ok this is a 1st for me on irc how to i post up a pic on this [01:10] press print screen, save the image, upload to a image hoster like imgur or any other you fancy [01:10] oh ok duh...sorry [01:10] one moment pls [01:11] http://public.fotki.com/foofighter/misc_photos/screenshot-08082013.html [01:12] among those profiles there is no headphones? [01:12] how i know my speakers work is when xubuntu starts to load my speakers do this crackle [01:12] nope none [01:13] mmhm [01:13] and when it's in headphones theres no selection for speakers [01:13] interesting [01:13] that's what is really weird [01:13] grindcube i figged it out on my end [01:13] tv is stupid [01:13] :) [01:13] dw5304, what was it? [01:13] and it only works after i reboot and go into xp and reboot again it works [01:14] tv dont support audio over rca [01:14] with hdmi [01:14] but hdmi dont work :) [01:14] no issues [01:14] but rca does to hook up to media [01:14] sound sound [01:14] and call it a day :) [01:14] brb [01:15] lol not worth the time [01:23] For some reason I can't get a xubuntu liveusb to boot using a uefi system. I'm following along here, but no luck. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Installing_Ubuntu_in_EFI_mode [01:37] ok im back @gridcube [01:53] daohaus1, what model is your audio? [01:57] @gridcube some analog sound card [02:38] odd issue nearly every other reboot (seems more so after apt-get upgrade) the theme reset to a white panel bar in xfce, next reboot its back to a black panel bar (greybird) [03:42] hola? [03:44] hiii [03:45] jo [04:27] Hello all. Can anybody help me replicate how my touchpad works in windows? In windows I can double-tap the upper left corner to lock my touchpad but it does not work in xubuntu/xfce... Anybody know how to solve this? [04:30] sirstonius: could depend on hardware driver support.. i would try and get used to how the touchpad i working.. then i would try a few GUI config tools.. then, consider xset commands or an xorg.conf [04:30] holstein: are there any GUI config tools you reccomend? [04:31] never had to mess with touchpad before.. always had linux installed on desktops :) [04:32] sirstonius: the "mouse" or "touchpad" tool in the GUI.. assuming the hardware is showing up as a touchpad [04:32] !touchpad [04:32] For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad [04:32] awesome.. ty mate [04:32] sirstonius: you may not have a synaptics touchpad... [04:33] holstein: I believe i do.. but not 100% sure. When I goto the 'Mouse and Touchpad' screen in system settings my Device is listed as 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad' [04:34] sirstonius: then, *if* it is, that guide will be helpful [04:39] okay. thank yous [04:57] hmmm i either overlooked it or my problem is not listed under that link. more google time [04:58] sirstonius: to be fair, you dont have a problem. you want functionality that may or may not be able to be added with the driver available for the hardware you are running that is intended to run another operating system [04:59] holstein: True. I guess I am just curious if anybody else has gotten this to work. [05:00] sirstonius: i, and most others just use the screen lock [05:00] Like lock the entire screen? [05:01] sirstonius: if you are talking about "lock", like "disable touchpad while typing".. i have had hit and miss luck with that [05:01] sirstonius: thats what "lock" means to me [05:02] holstein: sorta.. I got the disable touchpad while typing option working already.. I was just talking about disabling my touchpad completely by double tapping the upper left corner. Then an orange LED came on to show me it was locked. I do this because sometimes when I'm playing a game my kitten will lay on my lap and end up moving my cursor via the touchpad. [05:03] sirstonius: that could be anything.. software.. a driver.. who knows.. hardware specific [05:03] sirstonius: im sure there are ways to disable the touchpad with the keyboard.. a keyboard shortcut or something similar [05:05] holstein: for sure. I will probably still try to see if I may able to get it to work. But thank you for your help and time [05:06] sirstonius: sure.. you wont likely get that to work exactly like that ever.. but like i said you wil easily be able to script something that disables the touchpad with a keyboard combonation... good luck! [05:50] this is weird, I created a folder called pennies in my home directory in the terminal , but it is not showing up in file manager [05:51] dave4925_: what command have you entered? [05:52] were you in the home dir? [05:53] yes [05:54] dave4925_: use catfish and search for that directory [05:55] oh nm I was in ssh DUH! [05:58] dave4925_: so problem solved :) [06:46] how can I install libdb4.8++-dev ? [06:51] dave4925_: which ubuntu-version? [06:51] and do you need 4.8 exactly? [06:51] http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libdb%2B%2B-dev&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all [06:59] xubuntu 13.10 [06:59] its listed as a dependency on all of the qt digital coin clients [07:00] Build instructions [07:00] Debian [07:00] First, make sure that the required packages for Qt4 development of your distribution are installed, for Debian and Ubuntu these are: [07:00] apt-get install qt4-qmake libqt4-dev build-essential libboost-dev libboost-system-dev \ [07:00] libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-thread-dev \ [07:00] libssl-dev libdb4.8++-dev [07:12] !info libdb4.8++-dev saucy [07:12] Package libdb4.8++-dev does not exist in saucy [07:12] dave4925_, ^ [07:14] !info libdb++-dev saucy [07:14] libdb++-dev (source: db-defaults): Berkeley Database Libraries for C++ [development]. In component main, is extra. Version 5.1.6 (saucy), package size 2 kB, installed size 26 kB [07:14] !info libdb5.1++-dev saucy [07:14] libdb5.1++-dev (source: db): Berkeley v5.1 Database Libraries for C++ [development]. In component main, is extra. Version 5.1.29-5ubuntu8 (saucy), package size 1693 kB, installed size 4474 kB [07:14] I guess newer one should have features of the older one [07:17] maybe - but that's not always the case [07:17] and I remember reading about some bug or incompatibility caused by version 5 [07:18] I was taught that libs were backwards compatible. But in reality that's not the case [07:18] then you'll probably need to compile the libs first [07:21] why compile? [07:22] because it's not in the repositories [07:23] though I don't know if libs need to be compiled, I like to avoid suck things [07:24] oh I found them in packages.ubuntu.com [07:25] for which version [07:26] 13.10 support is in #ubuntu+1 , and you do not want to mix packages from different repo versions [08:58] Why the fuck are you releasing a Xubuntu version that randomly logs out?! [09:04] giorno c'è nessunp? [09:08] bool "we" don't release [09:08] "we" support [09:09] !language bool [09:09] !language | bool [09:09] bool: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [09:09] i am frustrated [09:09] sorry [09:09] bool: :) [09:09] think im going for another distro [09:09] bool: good luck [09:10] having random trouble with xubuntu for a long time [09:10] bool: if that repeats with other distros, it may be a hardware problem [09:10] bool: like failing memory or disk [09:10] or overclocked cpu [09:11] bool, what version are you running? [09:12] some of the trouble i've been having is spdif output turning off randomly, logging out randomly, screen goes blank when watching movies even if i have told it not to [09:12] what graphics card do you have? [09:13] i always run latest version, it is not a hardware problem and i use nvidia [09:13] it is entirely xubuntus fault [09:13] sorry [09:13] LTS might work better [09:13] think i am going for mint kde edition [09:13] Sysi, +1 [09:14] I assume you have traced the problem to a particular part of xubuntu, if you are so confident, and have reported the bugs? [09:14] or is it just a gut feeling? [09:14] hope you'll get it to work [09:15] the locking thin is xubuntu, the spdif is probably some sort of combination of packages that xubuntu uses and the last think about blank screen is a xfce/xorg problem [09:16] bool: since practically all other distros also use xorg, you are in a pretty dire situation [09:16] the screen locking thing is actually a reported bug, many weeks ago, but it has not been sorted [09:16] TheSheep, it is a xfce problem [09:17] bool: can we help somehow? [09:18] i wanted to create an xorg file to try to fix the locking problem, but each time i kill x it automatically restarts, so I am unable to create an xorg.conf file with Xorg -configure [09:19] service lightdm stop [09:19] sudo [09:19] sudo service lightdm stop [09:19] and when you finish, sudo service lightdm start [09:19] ok, thanks [09:19] bool, once again, what version are you running. swapping to the LTS version should fix any bugs [09:20] Noskcaj, i just run the regular xubuntu latast version [09:20] bool, 13.10 or 13.04? [09:20] 13.04 [09:20] ok. [09:21] is that ok? [09:21] try what the guys above said as you seem to know your stuff, if not, 12.04 is the most stable release [09:21] trying a different distro to see if the problems persist may also be a good idea, actually [09:22] it's not like xubuntu is the best for everyone and everything [09:23] i have been running linux mint cinnamon on my other desktop, seemed really nice and stable. I also love the ability to search in the start menu. The KDE edition however has even more snap points for windows [09:23] Kubuntu ♥ [09:23] * Tm_T crawls back to their cave [09:24] Tm_T, mint kde edition actually is better and more polished than kubuntu [09:24] bool: I'd disagree, but that's all offtopic [09:25] Tm_T, kubuntu is just a collection of packages... you can configure arch linux to be like kubuntu. mint kde has done work to get it more polished and includes more system tools [09:26] as said, this would be offtopic, should we continue on, let's say, #kubuntu-offtopic or some other offtopic channel instead? [09:26] i have said what is needed [09:29] as you wish [09:53] I need help with setting up OpenVPN... === Taylr0x is now known as JDT{Away} [14:02] I have a fresh install of XUbuntu 12.04 on a Panasonic Toughbook CF-28 which I have run the same version on for months before the new install. I just did the 3.2.0-51-generic update and now I get a blank screen on boot everywhere except recovery. === stoeptegel is now known as ducktool === JDT{Away} is now known as JDTaylor [15:57] how does xubuntu embed nm-applet in indicator applet rather than notification area? i'd like to replicate that in other distros. === stoeptegel is now known as ducktool === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [19:29] hi, on xubuntu 12.04.2, where do I find the session files/setup files for the guest session? === asd_ is now known as Guest9975 [20:15] so i have problem with installing chrominum on xubuntu, i downloaded it from google and then it opens it in software center but it wont install it just leaves this message : Software can't be installed or removed because the authentication service is not available. (org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name': ':1.69'}): org.debian.apt.install-file [20:16] Guest9975: you dont "download chromium from google" [20:16] from website [20:17] !info chromium [20:17] Package chromium does not exist in raring [20:17] Guest9975: to install chromium... "sudo apt-get install chromium-browser [20:17] Guest9975: that is "chrome".. not chromium.. [20:17] !info chromium-browser [20:17] chromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 28.0.1500.71-0ubuntu1.13.04.1 (raring), package size 31077 kB, installed size 117022 kB [20:17] when i try to run it in terminal it display this E: Unable to locate package chrominum-browser [20:18] Guest9975: because, that is spelled incorrectly [20:18] Guest9975, what i just posted. chromium-browser is avaliabe in universe [20:18] Guest9975: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser .. you can use "tab" to auto-complete [20:19] sudo apt-get install chro "tab".. then at "sudo apt-get install chromium-" type "br" and hit "tab" to complete [20:21] What package do I need for the timit module in xubuntu [20:21] i think i got it [20:21] ? [20:21] i'm surprized it dosn't come standard [20:21] for python that is [20:21] what chrome? [20:21] Guest9975: chrome is not chromium. they are 2 different applications [20:22] in which way? [20:22] Guest9975: the general and only way, friend [20:22] Guest9975: they are not the sam [20:22] same* [20:22] i still dont get it [20:22] like for windows is chrome and linux is chromium right? [20:22] there is a chrome browser.. a commercial product from google.. there is chromium.. and open source product [20:23] Guest9975: no [20:23] Guest9975: No [20:23] Guest9975: chrome and chromium are different.. and can each be run on windows or linux [20:23] didnt realise that [20:23] justakill: Are you talking about the NTLK Python timit module? [20:23] justakill: *NLTK [20:23] Guest9975, chromium is the open source, base browser. and google chrome is built on top of it with more features [20:24] chrome has pdf reader and flash integrated [20:25] bgardner: No the standard timit modult [20:25] module* [20:25] to simplify, Chromium is an indie production and is a more Free/Libre Open Source (FLOSS) form of Chrome (which controlled by "Let's do lots of evil and make boatloads of money" Google Incraperated) [20:25] bgardner: I feel like you're going to tell me it should be on my harddrive already. [20:26] not sure if "boatloads" of money come in from software offered for free. but the fact is, they are different.. and choose which ever you want to use [20:26] i like chromium better only because it's logo is blue [20:26] chromium is in the default repos [20:26] justakill: If you mean the timit module inside of python-nltk, then no you probably need to sudo apt-get install python-nltk [20:26] justakill: That's the only 'timit module' I can find a reference for. Did you mean something else? [20:27] hey, google isn't so bad GNUdru1 [20:27] Google takes Free software and turns it into semi-proprietary software and makes boatloads of money off of advertising and such [20:27] so? i can't remember the last time i've felt like their ads were intrusive [20:27] and every service is free [20:27] Google has gone evil. let's face it folks [20:27] please discuss "preferences" in the off-topic channel. and use whichever browser you prefer [20:28] no cost does not mean good. [20:28] bgardner: Oh wait you're right I though it was standard python library maybe I need another module. I want to test the speed of some functions? Maybe you know what I need? [20:28] and no cost doesn't mean Free as in Freedom. Freedom is good. [20:29] i just think your definition of "evil" might be a little far fetched [20:29] GNUdru1: i didnt mean to imply it was "good", or that that was my opinion.. please visit #xubuntu-offtopic for discussion [20:29] anyway i'll be in #xubuntu-offtopic if you want to discuss more [20:29] Google is partnering with the NSA to eliminate freedom. Google is evil, whatever they may have started it as. Ah yes holstein, will do. :-) [20:30] lol [20:30] !ot [20:30] #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [20:31] bgardner: this is what I ment http://docs.python.org/3/library/debug.html [20:31] justakill: Yes, or here: http://docs.python.org/2/library/profile.html [20:32] justakill: You might want to go ask on #python for more. [20:33] bgardner: I will do that === Laser is now known as Guest2024 [20:54] Hello, I am having an issue with Xubuntu 12.04. My audio is no longer working, it was working but now nothing. [20:54] Any ideas? [20:55] Guest2024, reinstall pulseaudio D: ? [20:55] Guest2024, then reboot [20:55] I shall try. THanks [20:58] or service pulseaudio restart would have worked xD [20:59] woops [20:59] !audio | cheap shot. ;P [20:59] cheap shot. ;P: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [22:22] hi [22:22] hi [22:23] am very impressed, the xubuntu install is very slick [22:23] congratulations Xubuntu team! [22:51] hey [22:51] why a fresh Xubuntu 13.04 or 12.04 always tell "crash report detected" ? [22:54] hi, i'm trying to install a brand new copy of 12.04.2-64 on a brand new alienware with win 7. for some reason i never see an option to install beside withdows unless i have another drive installed. windows boots fine and i've tried bootrec /fixmbr and /fixboot in win system recovery console, but it makes no difference [23:36] !uefi [23:36] UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [23:37] akovia: I dont know if uefi is a problem with that particular hardware, but check the above link if there are any clues [23:38] David-A: thanks but I read that before even starting [23:42] akovia: some laptops use 4 primary partitions (windows, recovery, something, and bios), then it is not easy to just add another 1 or 2 partitions for linux, without messing with either the bios or windows partitions making one of them non-primary. I guess the install program is not bold enough to try it. [23:45] David-A: That's most likely the problem. Have you seen any information regarding installing around this cluster-f***? [23:46] akovia: you have to be bold enough and re-partition manually, possibly drop some bios functionality or move recovery info to an external device, or verify that the windows partition can be changed to a secondary partition without bad side-effects [23:51] David-A: hmmm, if I select "Something Else" i have the following 7 lines, 2 are free space at 1 & 0 MB, sda1=efi@524MB, sda2=fat32@41MB, sda3=unknown@134MB, sda4=ntfs@10949MB, and sda=ntfs@988553MB. Holy crap what a mess [23:52] David-A: btw, it an Aurora desktop and not a laptop. just got it today and I can't even load my OS =( [23:52] somehow I doubt Dell will help [23:57] akovia: maybe you can shrink the "sda5(?) 988GB" and add a couple of new partitions at the end. dont re-partition in the install program, but use gparted in a live session, or better use a repartition tool in windows [23:58] David-A: ok thanks for the tip. I'm a long time user of xubuntu so i will stick with ubuntu tools as I've never even owned windows 7 before. :P [23:59] akovia: (i've read, or i think i've read, that a repartition tool for windows is safer to use when resizing an ntfs partition) [23:59] hmm