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[10:52] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
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[14:04] <xjunior> Good morning, guys! I have libmirserver0 marked to be removed, but it's also messing up the installation of libmirserver1. apt-get install -f doesn't solve the issue and manually remove libmirserver0 doesn't work. Is there another way of solving it?
[14:05] <ikonia> xjunior: is libmirserver1 listed as a dependency ?
[14:06] <xjunior> ikonia, I believe so. How can I be sure?
[14:06] <ikonia> check ?
[14:07] <xjunior> ikonia,
[14:07] <xjunior> this worked for em
[14:07] <xjunior> me
[14:07] <xjunior>  dpkg --install --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libmirserver1*.deb
[14:07] <ikonia> that's not what I asked
[14:10] <xjunior> excuse me?
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[20:29] <ironhalik> Hello
[20:29] <penguin42> hi
[20:29] <ironhalik> I'm wondering - on what kernel version is 3.10.0-6 based?
[20:29] <ironhalik> they usually are merged with upstream versions like 3.10.5
[20:31] <penguin42> ironhalik: According to /usr/share/doc/linux-image-3.10.0-6-generic/changelog.Debian.gz I'd say it's v3.10.3
[20:31] <Ampelbein> ironhalik: Confirming what penguin42 said, see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/linux/+changelog
[20:31] <ironhalik> thanks guys
[20:33] <ironhalik> I was kinda afraid of the whole Mir migration, but decided what the hell and installed saucy on my laptop :>
[20:33] <ironhalik> so far so good ;>
[20:35] <Ampelbein> to be honest, unless mir works with the proprietary nvidia/amd drivers, it won't have a huge userbase.
[20:35] <ironhalik> yeah, I thought about it, too
[20:36] <ironhalik> but considering its Ubuntu making the change, and with valve support
[20:36]  * penguin42 hasn't tried Mir yet, I'm on KDE, I believe xmir should in principal work for that
[20:36] <ironhalik> theres a good chance Mir will end up with better driver support than X
[20:36] <penguin42> I thought it actually used the X drivers?
[20:37] <Daekdroom> penguin42, nope, it uses Open GL ES
[20:37] <Daekdroom> (I think?)
[20:37] <ironhalik> from what I recall, it will need new drivers
[20:37] <Daekdroom> Although there's something about it being compatible with Adrnoid drivers.
[20:37] <ironhalik> ^
[20:37] <Daekdroom> *Android
[20:38] <penguin42> oh hmm, interesting - I'd definitely read something saying it was using X drivers
[20:38] <Daekdroom> XMir will.
[20:39] <ironhalik> hmm, wiki seems to think that too
[20:39] <ironhalik> full driver support _should_ come with 14.10
[20:40] <ironhalik> considering how Xorg is universally hated by developers, driver devs may actually gladly support Mir
[20:40] <penguin42> Xorg isn't universally hated
[20:40] <ironhalik> seems to be :>
[20:41] <ironhalik> just to clarify, I'm not a linix dev, but I've seen _lots_ of rants about X
[20:42] <ironhalik> mainlt from various devs
[20:43]  * penguin42 has used it for a long time, and generally like it - but it does have some limitations which it'll be interesting to see how well things like Mir try and avoid
[20:48] <Daekdroom> "Tailored towards an EGL/GL(ES) world. " according to the specifications.
[21:10] <yofel> Mir needs EGL drivers, same as wayland