[02:13] <kbmonkey> morning all o/
[06:36] <Kilos> morning all
[07:11] <magespawn> good morning
[07:11] <nlsthzn> o/
[07:13] <Kilos> hi magespawn nlsthzn 
[07:15] <nlsthzn> alo uncle Kilos
[07:15] <Kilos> you must learn some python man
[07:16] <magespawn> hey nlsthzn Kilos 
[07:16] <magespawn> me or nlsthzn?
[07:16] <Kilos> both
[07:17]  * nlsthzn is planning on that
[07:17] <Kilos> im to doff to set nickserv_password in my bot
[07:18] <nlsthzn> :)
[07:18] <Kilos> the thing was cloaked long ago but it needs to identify everytime to stay cloaked
[07:19] <Kilos> i see you havent cloaked yet magespawn 
[07:22]  * nlsthzn will start Learn Python the Hard Way (again) but this time finish it too :p
[07:22] <magespawn> no not yet
[07:22] <magespawn> i practice python when i get the chance
[07:25] <Kilos> we could have a python class like we started with LPI
[07:26] <Kilos> just gotta set a permanent day/evening and no excuses
[07:26] <nlsthzn> LPI didn't last long :/
[07:26] <nlsthzn> or did I just miss it?
[07:27] <Kilos> no the monkey moved remember
[07:27] <Kilos> then had no internet
[07:28] <Kilos> i forwarded a mail to the list about the new exam stuffs
[07:30] <nlsthzn> oh yes I saw that... so the book I have has now lost some of it usefulness :/ not like I was using it anyway :(
[07:30] <Kilos> ai!
[07:31] <Kilos> the main stuff will be the same i think only new stuff is added and obsolete stuff removed from the exams
[07:40] <nlsthzn> I played around with LVM on my desktop, eventually had to use my windows disc to get control of my hdd back because not even gparted could get them to a clean state >.<
[07:40] <Kilos> lol
[07:44] <nlsthzn> was a difficult morning, installed fedora because it makes LVM easy, then hit a snag as the Radeon driver doesn't work with the new 3.10 kernel which fedora updates too so I tried to revert back to ubuntu and that took 4 hours of fighting
[07:44] <nlsthzn> almost re-installed windows >.<
[07:50] <Kilos> eish
[07:50] <Kilos> you tried byte of python hey?
[07:50] <nlsthzn> nope
[07:50] <Kilos> i got as far as hello world i think
[07:51] <Kilos> http://www.ibiblio.org/g2swap/byteofpython/files/120/byteofpython_120.pdf
[07:52] <Kilos> you gotta then learn vim, i started learning vim and forgot python which was the point
[07:53] <Kilos> now its all forgotten again
[07:54] <nlsthzn> that would suck...
[07:55] <nlsthzn> or does suck
[07:55] <Kilos> hehe yeah
[07:55] <Kilos> main thing is i member aptitude reinstall and how to rsync -av
[07:55] <Kilos> so all good
[07:56] <nlsthzn> does it force you to use vim?
[07:58] <Kilos> no
[07:58] <nlsthzn> cool
[07:58] <Kilos> you use editor of choice i think
[07:59] <nlsthzn> I see I also have a copy of An Introduction to Python
[07:59] <nlsthzn> by John C. Lusth
[07:59] <nlsthzn> pity downloading them doesn't make you know them :p
[07:59] <Kilos> the fly always recommends byteofpython to start with
[08:00] <nlsthzn> then I will have a look at it , thanks uncle Kilos\
[08:00] <Kilos> yw
[08:00] <Kilos> if i could get the basics going you should crack it
[08:01] <Kilos> and playing with it didnt crash my pc
[08:02] <Kilos> i manage that quite well on my own
[08:10] <nlsthzn> :)
[08:18] <magespawn> python lseems to me relatively easy to learn and powerful
[08:18] <magespawn> there are also python lessons on codcademy
[08:20] <nlsthzn> I have done some of the lessons on codeacademy...
[08:22]  * nlsthzn will bbl
[09:06] <Kilos> sigh
[10:22] <mazal> Afternoon all
[10:23] <charl> good afternoon
[10:23] <charl> hi mazal
[10:23] <mazal> Hi charl 
[10:23] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[10:23]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[10:23] <charl> mazal: how's it going
[10:23] <mazal> Good thanx and you charl ?
[10:23] <charl> mazal: good thanks
[10:25] <mazal> Anybody have a link to how to remove old kernels with synaptic ?
[10:25] <mazal> I only find cli ones
[10:25] <charl> sudo apt-get autoremove
[10:25] <charl> oh i see, with synaptic
[10:25] <charl> no idea
[10:26] <Kilos> hi mazal charl 
[10:26] <mazal> with apt-get I'm going to have to type each ones name
[10:26] <charl> mazal: no
[10:26] <mazal> Hallo oom
[10:26] <charl> mazal: autoremove does that for you
[10:26] <charl> hi Kilos 
[10:26] <mazal> Ah , nice :-)
[10:26] <mazal> just the one command like that ?
[10:26] <charl> Kilos: how's it going
[10:26] <charl> mazal: yes
[10:26] <mazal> thanx
[10:27] <charl> mazal: i do that frequently especially on servers because otherwise the boot partition fills up
[10:27] <Kilos> not bad ty just some things dont wanna work
[10:27] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[10:27] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[10:27] <Maaz> charl: No problem
[10:27] <Kilos> mazal, remastersys gives an error
[10:28] <Kilos> something about not finding filesystem.squash something or other
[10:28] <mazal> Oi
[10:28] <mazal> When you boot or when you create ?
[10:28] <Kilos> but it actually makes the file then loses it
[10:28] <Kilos> hehe
[10:28] <Kilos> create
[10:28] <mazal> Default target path or did you change it ?
[10:29] <mazal> "working folder"
[10:29] <Kilos> where would i change it
[10:29] <mazal> default then :-)
[10:29] <Kilos> hehe
[10:29] <mazal> That's a strange one Kilos 
[10:29] <mazal> Never had that before
[10:29] <Kilos> yeah i always have strange probs
[10:30] <mazal> Enough space on /home ?
[10:30] <Kilos> before it just worked
[10:30] <Kilos> ya lots
[10:30] <mazal> And you did remember to run the clean command first ?
[10:30] <Kilos> ill run it again and we get the clever peeps to see where it went wrong
[10:30] <Kilos> ya
[10:31] <mazal> I would suggest creating a remastersys folder in your own home folder
[10:31] <Kilos> clean command or clear logs??
[10:31] <mazal> Then make that the "working dorectory"
[10:31] <mazal> clean command of remastersys to clean out previous creates
[10:31] <mazal> It must always be run , before you create again
[10:31] <Kilos> where you see that
[10:32] <mazal> do you use it in cli or gui ?
[10:32] <Kilos> do you run it from cli or the gui
[10:32] <Kilos> gui
[10:32] <mazal> gooi weg die gui
[10:32] <mazal> in cli :
[10:32] <mazal> sudo su
[10:32] <mazal> your password
[10:32] <Kilos> ok give commands
[10:32] <mazal> remastersys clean
[10:32] <mazal> remastersys clean
[10:33] <mazal> remastersys dist
[10:33] <mazal> It must clean out all the old stuff in the working folder first
[10:33] <mazal> and it must run in root mode , that's why the first one is sudo su to change to full root mode
[10:34] <mazal> and the clean command I always run twice
[10:34] <mazal> and everything must be closed , all apps , nothing open
[10:35] <Kilos> ok i got it running that way now, well see ty
[10:35] <mazal> Any open app that changes files or anything can also make it fail. Things like mail , irc , firefox etc.
[10:36] <Kilos> wbb ty
[10:36] <mazal> If that don't work I suggest another working folder
[10:36] <mazal> oi too slow
[10:37] <Kilos> grrr
[10:37] <Kilos> same thjing
[10:37] <Kilos> thing
[10:37] <Kilos> The filesystem.squashfs filesystem is missing.  Either there was a problem creating the compressed filesystem or you are trying to run sudo remastersys dist iso before sudo remastersys dist cdfs
[10:38] <mazal> That is very strange
[10:39] <mazal> Try the different working folder plan.
[10:39] <mazal> /etc/remastersys.conf
[10:39] <mazal> Maybe it will help if the folder is in your own home folder
[10:41] <mazal> charl you still here ?
[10:43] <charl> mazal: yes
[10:44] <mazal> charl, that autoremove command , does it remove other stuff that is not needed anymore as well , or only the kernels ?
[10:44] <charl> it *could* remove other stuff too
[10:44] <mazal> k
[10:45] <charl> i usually only use it to remove old kernels
[10:45] <charl> it will give you a list of the packages it will remove before it does it
[10:45] <charl> maybe you can select certain packages to be removed / retained
[10:45] <mazal> ok thanx
[10:45] <charl> under most circumstances you could let it remove everything
[10:45] <charl> just be careful if you have some strange configuration
[10:47] <Kilos> ai! drive died
[10:47] <Kilos> will see what maverick can find
[10:47] <charl> bah :(
[10:47] <charl> old drive ?
[10:47] <mazal> http://slexy.org/view/s21N9LftKN
[10:48] <Kilos> try to boot and it says insert boot media and press enter
[10:48] <Kilos> grrr
[10:48] <mazal> Kilos, there is my config file. Check if yours is ok. Especially the squash option line
[10:48] <Kilos> ya charl but not as old as my mavericks drive
[10:48] <Kilos> wait till i fix the drive first
[10:49] <mazal> Is it the one you tried to remaster that broke now ?
[10:49] <Kilos> ya
[10:50] <mazal> That might explain why renastersys failed. 
[10:50] <mazal> The failing drive might have caused the problem
[10:50] <Kilos> maybe ya
[10:50] <Kilos> just run sudo fsck -f /dev/sdb1
[10:51] <Kilos> it says filesystem was modified so ill see if i can boot from it now
[10:51] <Kilos> wbb
[10:56] <Kilos> hmm...
[10:57] <mazal> Still dead ?
[10:57] <Kilos> nope im on it now
[10:57] <mazal> k
[10:57] <Kilos> its like there is a virus somewhere
[10:58] <Kilos> how can the drive just disappear but fsck fixes it
[10:58] <mazal> Can one specify multiple drives with that fsck command ?
[10:58] <Kilos> ya
[10:59] <Kilos> i think i read you must not do it on the drive you are on
[10:59] <mazal> for example sudo fsck -f /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 ?
[10:59] <Kilos> ya
[10:59] <Kilos> sudo fsck -f /dev/sdb1 i did that
[11:00] <mazal> And on multiple partition drive , can one say sudo fsck -f /dev/sdb and it will check all partitions on the drive ?
[11:00] <Kilos> i dunno
[11:00] <Kilos> its a command the crash kid gave me to fix an external that didnt work
[11:02] <mazal> If remember gonna boot my recovery drive and then use that command to see if it checks all partitions on my main drive
[11:11] <mazal> gtg , need to image this drive and test a few things
[14:20] <inetpro> superfly: ping
[14:20] <inetpro> good afternoon everyone
[14:22] <inetpro> using Kubuntu how can I force a 2nd or 3rd user's tty session to end in the background without killing individual processes manually?
[14:25]  * inetpro looking for something similar to gnome-session-quit
[15:06] <Vince-0> ya good question
[15:59] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[15:59] <inetpro> Kilos: wb
[15:59] <Kilos> ty this modems back to timeouting looks like
[16:00] <Kilos> have you read the logs??
[16:00] <inetpro> no, why?
[16:00] <Kilos> lol i need to know how to set nickserv_password in ibid.ine
[16:01] <inetpro> Kilos: ag nee man
[16:01] <inetpro> pla dit jou?
[16:01] <Kilos> what??
[16:01] <Kilos> its so it can identify with freenode so the cloak works
[16:02] <Kilos> i just remembered what i did last year
[16:02] <inetpro> why?
[16:02] <Kilos> logged in as the bot them identified
[16:03] <Kilos> why are you cloaked?
[16:03] <Kilos> i spose security so ip not visible
[16:13] <Kilos-> ai!
[16:23] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[16:24] <Cantide> hey Kilos :)
[17:06] <inetpro> Kilos: I don't care so much about cloaking my home connection as I do my office's connection
[17:07] <Kilos> ah ok then. just thought it would be good if QA was cloaked as well like maaz
[17:07] <inetpro> at home we rely on the 8ta, voda and others to keep us protected in a way
[17:08] <Kilos> ill get the weed to explain in old fashioned english when he has time
[17:08] <Kilos> yeah but funny things happen here
[17:09] <inetpro> funny things happen when you allow them to happen
[17:09] <Kilos> like modem stays working fine for 3 days the disappears and all of a sudden drive is missing and nothing can find errors on it
[17:09] <Kilos> disk utility shows drive is healthy
[17:10] <Kilos> yo smile 
[17:11] <smile> hi Kilos :D
[17:11] <smile> I like ChatZilla ;)
[17:12] <inetpro> when you have adsl or leased line you have to take care of your own connection more than with 3g
[17:13] <inetpro> Kilos: those are most likely your own local issues
[17:18] <inetpro> hmm... looks like he really has a few issues there
[17:52] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[17:52] <Kilos> nag inetpro 
[17:52] <Kilos> hi bye superfly 
[19:34] <Cantide> oh, who is taking part in the app showdown?
[20:20] <kbmonkey> hello. wha is the app showdown cantide?
[20:20] <Cantide> hold on..
[20:20] <Cantide> link incoming
[20:21] <Cantide> http://developer.ubuntu.com/2013/08/announcing-the-2013-ubuntu-app-showdown-contest/
[20:21] <Cantide> if you win, you can win an Nexus 4 with Ubuntu Touch preloaded
[20:21] <Cantide> http://developer.ubuntu.com/showdown/
[20:21] <kbmonkey> cool!
[20:23] <Cantide> yeah!!
[20:23] <Cantide> time to get coding!
[20:23] <Cantide> the only thing is thinking of a cool idea that is within my capabilities >.<
[20:24] <kbmonkey> trying to download 3mMB on 10 kb/s is really painful :(
[20:25] <Cantide> oh :(
[20:25] <Cantide> i had to install the ubuntu sdk - it was nearly 70 mb
[20:25] <Cantide> so i thought twice about it
[20:26] <Cantide> but now that i have it, i have to make use of it - so make an app i shall!
[20:28] <kbmonkey> it has to be using the sdk?
[20:28] <Cantide> i think that is preferred
[20:29] <Cantide> yes
[20:29] <kbmonkey> will check out the page once this download is done
[20:29] <Cantide> but you could write it in a text editor and run it from the terminal
[20:29] <Cantide> afaik
[23:17] <jhb_hacker> Hi