[00:01] <David-A> akovia: (but if the 988GB is "C:" the resizing must be done from a live cd, thus a windows live cd with a partition tool on it)
[00:02] <akovia> David-A: i actually found something about this but some of the instructions are still a little cloudy the way the one guy did it. http://en.community.dell.com/owners-club/alienware/f/3746/p/19459720/20154208.aspx
[00:02] <akovia> David-A: windows live-cd?
[00:06] <David-A> akovia: i think there are windows rescue cds or something like that, with some useful tools on them
[00:07] <akovia> David-A: ok
[00:09] <David-A> akovia: whos post on community.dell.com you need help interpreting?
[00:10] <akovia> David-A: well the one by morblore looks easiest, but when i disable UEFI, it won't boot into windows
[00:12] <akovia> David-A: strange, but when i hit default bios it doesn't return to uefi mode. doing it maunally lets me boot again, but the device options are different now, jeesh what a mess
[00:12] <David-A> akovia: my interpretation is that you can boot windows via grub, after the dual-boot install is complete (havn't tried myself)
[00:13] <akovia> David-A: I guess i'll start by shinking the partition and go from there for now
[00:15] <David-A> akovia: (to understand why this is happening, 5 years ago any kid could insert a ubuntu cd and install linux on a laptop or desktop, sole or dual boot. for MS this was a problem. now they have essentially solved *that* problem.)
[00:16] <akovia> David-A:  the same type of reason i left M$ to begin with
[00:17] <akovia> David-A: looks like windows can now resize partitions w/o external sw
[00:22] <akovia> David-A: I guess I don't know how to replace the bootloader with grub. ubuntu has always done that for me before. I've shrunk the partition and am now trying to install again
[00:25] <David-A> akovia: (if it does not install grub automatically now, i don't know why that is)
[00:26] <akovia> ok, still doesn't see windows but if i go to the "something else" screen now I can install to the new free space. I'm guessing the defaults are ok and make the mount point as /
[00:30] <akovia> David-A: i read that you don't really need swap space anymore but i get a warning to add it. IS the rule of thumb double you mem? 32gb in my case
[00:33] <David-A> akovia: my rule of thumb(s) swap=ram, except if ram<1G then swap=1G or if ram>1G then swap=1G, except if you want hibernate then swap~=ram
[00:34] <David-A> akovia: but yes, you don't need swap at all if you don't want it. but i'd suggest a little swap.
[00:34] <akovia> David-A: ok, 16 sounds good.
[00:35] <David-A> akovia: without hibernate, 1 or 2 gb would be good too i think
[00:36] <akovia> David-A: well here goes... :P
[00:38] <akovia> David-A: i really didn't think i could dislike M$ less, but they never fail to surprise me
[00:38] <akovia> David-A: err more
[00:39] <David-A> akovia: (offtopic) please write MS, not M$, critics hit much much harder if you spell them right
[00:40] <akovia> David-A: my apologies, will do
[00:52] <akovia> David-A: well install seems to be stuck with could not find module nvidia_experimentsl_304
[00:54] <akovia> David-A: skipping
[00:56] <akovia> David-A: well crap! grub opens but i only have option for windows recovery env. and even that fails
[02:35] <xubuntu010> Is Xubuntu a good OS to run on a PC with 15GB Master HDD, 100GB Slave HDD, and approx. 1GB RAM?
[02:37] <Unit193> 1G is not much to work with, but I'm doing it on a computer.
[02:40] <xubuntu010> I have an old eMachines with just 1GB of RAM and i was just trying to decide if Xubuntu or Lubuntu would be a better lightweight distro to run. And by better i mean speed compared to boot time and applications available, etc.
[02:43] <Unit193> xubuntu010: Applications that you can install would be the same as it's the same repos, feel free to try out both live and see which fits your needs more.
[02:46] <xubuntu010> @Unit193: Which supported release of Xubuntu would be the best to install (if chosen) on a 15GB HDD? I'm asking because I only have approx. 3 chances to find a distro due to my limited amount of DVD-Rs
[02:47] <Unit193> I myself use the current version because old programs drive me nuts.  It's up to you if you want to use the LTS or current release.
[02:51] <xubuntu010> I'll try the current release first. I was running Lubuntu 11.10 (If I remember correctly), but Chromium wouldn't connect to the internet and so i decided to upgrade my RAM from 256MB to 1GB. Since that release of Lubuntu worked extremely well except for that, do you think that the current release should at least be fast enough for use as a second PC? (I currently use a HP Psvilion G6 laptop running Windows 8 <-- *barf*)
[02:51] <xubuntu010> *Pavilion
[02:54] <Unit193> Lubuntu and Xubuntu don't have issues with fast computers at all, but since that's UEFI you'll need 64bit.
[02:57] <xubuntu010> Okay, thank you for your help, hopefully this will save me a DVD or two for future endeavors. No one where I live even knows what Linux is. I live in an Apple Community.
[02:57] <xubuntu254> Hi
[02:59] <Unit193> xubuntu254: Howdy.
[03:00] <Unit193> xubuntu010: Heh, interesting.
[03:02] <xubuntu010> Unit193: Makes it easy to confuse people. BTW, would it be possible to write & boot the Xubuntu 13.04 release to a USB Drive?
[03:04] <Unit193> xubuntu010: Of course it is, recommended way.
[03:06] <xubuntu010> Unit193: How would I do this? I was never shown how, my High School Tech. teacher (I am not in college yet unfortunately) only taught us how to write to a DVD/CD.
[03:06] <Unit193> xubuntu010: If you are on Windows now, LinuxLiveUSB creator is the best tool, for linux there's unetbootin or dd.
[03:06] <Unit193> !usb
[03:06] <ubottu> For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[03:09] <xubuntu010> Okay, I'll try this once it finishes downloading (Stupid Belkin router.) and I've added my own little code pieces.
[03:13] <xubuntu010> Anddddddddddddddddddddd Comcast takes 16 years to download.
[03:16] <xubuntu010> Thank you for your help.
[03:20] <Unit193> Sure.
[04:09] <xubuntu228> Help! I am running a computer with two HDD(s). One is 15GB, the other is 100GB. My first question is, when you get the install screen on 13.04, and you manually create partitions, how do you do this? As in, what partitions do you need, what order, etc? Can someone please walk me through this?
[04:10] <Unit193> You'll need an Ext4 partition (main), and a swap partition.  How much ram do you have?
[04:11] <Unit193> Generally as much ram as you have, is how big to make your swap.
[04:12] <xubuntu228> I think around 1GB, maybe 1.25GB is how much RAM. And, as a side question, would it be possible to use the 2nd HDD as the swap partition?
[04:13] <Unit193> You can put the swap partition in the second drive, yep.
[04:14] <xubuntu228> Okay, so I am on the screen where you set up the partitions. I have the first drive as the primary, in the beginning of this space, with an ext4 journaling system. What mount point do i need to use?
[04:15] <Unit193> /
[04:17] <xubuntu228> okay so my first HDD is as follows: Device = /dev/sda1; Type = ext4; Mount = /; Format = Check; Size = 100028
[04:19] <xubuntu228> and my second is: Device = /dev/sdb5; Type = swap; Mount =  ; Format = Uncheck; Size = 15018 MB
[04:20] <xubuntu228> Both sizes are in MB by the way. Does this look right?
[04:22] <xubuntu228> Oh, and the device for bootloader installation is /dev/sda
[04:27] <xubuntu228> Anyone there?
[04:28] <cfhowlett> xubuntu228, no reason you can't ask this in #ubuntu and there are WAY more people on that channel ...
[04:29] <xubuntu228> Okay I'll try that. Seems like everyone is asleep on here at the moment.
[04:29] <cfhowlett> xubuntu228, more likely they're systems are humming along and they don't need help ...
[04:31] <xubuntu228> Probably. Only reason I need help is I'm a highschooler in Tennessee and no one here knows anything about anything. So I've never been taught this stuff.
[04:31] <cfhowlett> xubuntu228, come on over to #ubuntu.   Lots of help
[08:24] <DarkerAudit> is the laptop-mode-tools package really necessary these days?
[08:25] <baizon> DarkerAudit: yes, if you use a laptop
[08:25] <baizon> DarkerAudit: http://askubuntu.com/questions/172391/is-laptop-mode-tools-still-relevant-for-12-04-and-the-3-x-kernels
[08:30] <DarkerAudit> um... if I'm reading that link correctly, it's saying laptop-mode tools is not needed. :|
[08:39] <xubuntu388> non trovo una stampante in rete
[08:39] <xubuntu388> qualcuno sa aiutarmi
[08:39] <xubuntu388> epson sx535wd
[08:40] <well_laid_lawn> espana ?
[08:40] <well_laid_lawn> !es
[08:40] <ubottu> En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #xubuntu-es; escriba "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. Si nadie responde, puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es.
[08:40] <elfy> !it
[08:40] <ubottu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)
[08:40] <elfy> italian :)
[08:40] <well_laid_lawn> heh cheers :)
[08:40] <xubuntu388> i'm sorry
[08:41] <xubuntu388> i speak italian
[08:41] <well_laid_lawn> you write italian too ;)
[08:41] <elfy> xubuntu388: this channel is english - you can go to the italian channel if you wish, or stay here and use english
[08:42] <xubuntu388> ok
[12:12] <soman> I need to debug my app without gtk theme. How can I disable gtk theme?
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[13:32] <brainwash> soman: by killing xfsettingsd maybe
[14:23] <SunilJoshi> Hi All
[14:23] <SunilJoshi> I am using Weechat on Ubuntu 13.04 with Xubuntu desktop
[14:24] <SunilJoshi> Can i make weechat task bar blink when someone calls by nick in any of the channel?
[14:24] <SunilJoshi> #weechat people referes to ask this question in Xubuntu channel
[14:25] <SunilJoshi> if the flash can be forced by user
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[16:31] <wiak> stupid question, how the heck do i set super key to open run program?
[16:31] <wiak> am so used to ****** so i realy want to map the keys to their rightful places
[16:32] <Sysi> keyboard settings, applications shortcuts
[16:34] <wiak> i was in window manager :P
[16:34] <wiak> thx mate
[16:47] <wiak>  FYI: TLP should be included in xubuntu by default, the current one is awful :P
[16:48] <wiak> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/improve-power-usage-battery-life-in.html
[16:55] <flux242> wiak: pm-utils are installed by default
[16:56] <wiak> dont seem to work on my laptop
[16:56] <flux242> what makes you think so?
[16:57] <wiak> always running fan,  hot etc, and this is  a month old system
[16:58] <wiak> and not much runs in the background, mostly idle
[16:58] <wiak> tlp helped alot
[16:58] <wiak> now it atleast runs on *battery*
[16:59] <flux242> well, I needed to tweak pm-utils scripts a bit for some of them to take effect
[17:00] <wiak> tlp works out of the box
[17:41] <peyam> Hi
[17:41] <peyam> How do I see the speed of my hdd?
[17:44] <holstein> peyam: i would use a test read/write scenario..
[17:44] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/87035/how-to-check-hard-disk-performance for example
[17:44] <peyam> got that suggestion. I just needed the RPM or RPS
[17:45] <peyam> Looked upp the modell and then googled
[17:45] <holstein> peyam: pretty much, if you cant hear it, its going to be standard.. if its crazy loud, then it might be 10,000rpm's
[17:46] <peyam> I need a SSD
[17:46] <holstein> peyam: thats easy.. ssd's spin at 0 rpm ;)
[17:46] <peyam> yes
[17:46] <peyam> I have a tiny box
[17:46] <peyam> Case
[17:47] <holstein> the reason to get SSD is not size necessarily
[17:47] <peyam> the fan sounds pretty much. I got one giant SPU fan and 3 other
[17:47] <peyam> no I need 64 Gb
[17:47] <peyam> for OS to run faster
[17:47] <peyam> I ment the only thing that sounds it the fans
[17:47] <peyam> s*
[17:48] <holstein> the fan? or hard drive?
[17:48] <holstein> sounds like you need a quiter fan.. which is likely cheaper than a hard drive
[17:48] <peyam> The HDD doesnt sound so much. I just hear the Fans spinning
[17:49] <peyam> I have at max 44 C in Idle. and it is pretty good. but the box is very tiny and it gets varm...
[17:49] <peyam> the sound doesnt bother me actully. I only want speed
[18:09] <peyam> guys
[18:09] <peyam> guys
[18:09] <peyam> http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&category=2&prod=61
[18:09] <peyam> can I have a 2.5 " hdd in this?
[18:12] <TheSheep> peyam: this is a support channel, please go to #xubuntu-offtopic
[18:13] <peyam> TheSheep, it is not offtopic?
[18:13] <TheSheep> peyam: then please explain your xubuntu-related issue that you need help with better
[18:14] <peyam> TheSheep, I have xubuntu and I wonder if I can install a laptop hdd in my case..
[18:14] <TheSheep> that's a question for #hardware
[18:15] <peyam> yes with xubuntu
[18:15] <bazhang> peyam, ##hardware
[18:15] <peyam> I hate you guys
[18:15] <TheSheep> peyam: xubuntu has nothing to do with it
[18:15] <bazhang> peyam, thats not xubuntu
[18:15] <peyam> * ##hardware :Cannot send to channel
[18:15] <bazhang> so register
[18:16] <bazhang> peyam, #freenode to help with registration
[18:16] <peyam> I am registred
[18:16] <TheSheep> peyam: https://www.freenode.net/faq.shtml#plusr
[18:16] <bazhang> peyam, /join #freenode
[18:16] <peyam> now it works
[18:19] <peyam> no I know
[18:19] <peyam> so
[18:19] <peyam> If I installed the HDD , do I ned to go to Bios to make the first one as default?
[18:20] <TheSheep> peyam: consider yourself warned
[18:21] <peyam> TheSheep, why?
[18:21] <peyam> :S
[18:21] <TheSheep> peyam: because you have been told by several people that this is offtopic here and that you should go with it to ##hardware
[18:22] <peyam> how is it offtopic?
[18:22] <TheSheep> !oftopic | peyam
[18:22] <TheSheep> !offtopic | peyam
[18:22] <ubottu> peyam: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[18:27] <peyam> okej okej
[19:31] <WalterN> anyone know of a good straight up VOIP subscription service that is usable in (Xubuntu) linux?
[19:32] <WalterN> I decided I dont like skype anymore... heh
[19:36] <WalterN> seems like I need to find a VOIP subscription that will work with Ekiga?
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[20:09] <santiagoward2000> hi! where can i report a translation bug in thunar?
[20:36] <Eleonore> Hello. I'm using mysql-workbench on xubuntu 13.04. And it has exactly this bug → https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-workbench/+bug/1193160       I did what the page says but it didn't work. Dos anyone know how can I fix it ? thanks ...
[20:36] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1193160 in mysql-workbench (Ubuntu) "Text displayed as blocks in 13.04" [Undecided,New]
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[21:21] <jimiz> can't get xubuntu to install alongside windows.  Any help?
[21:46] <well_laid_lawn> !dualboot
[21:46] <ubottu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[21:54] <wiak> EFI and dualboot is kinda funky
[21:54] <wiak> i havnt gotten it to work YET
[21:54] <wiak> :P
[23:30] <Mitchell92> I have an encrypted hard drive... I want to no longer need to be prompted for a key, any easy way to decrypt the drive or have it automatically enter the key?
[23:31] <holstein> Mitchell92: i would say, maybe reinstallation would be an "easy" way
[23:31] <Mitchell92> I know... but its a netbook... my USB optical drive broke, and my other system is a Mac, not sure how to make an installl flash drive
[23:32] <holstein> !unetbooing
[23:32] <holstein> !unetbooin
[23:32] <holstein> !unetbootin
[23:32] <ubottu> For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[23:36] <Mitchell92> unetbooin won't recognize a flash drive present on OS X.
[23:38] <holstein> Mitchell92: there are many tools to try
[23:38] <holstein> !install
[23:38] <ubottu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate
[23:39] <Mitchell92> holstein: Any way I Can just decrypt my drive?
[23:42] <holstein> Mitchell92: sure.. though, i havent done it.. the guide i found said "just reinstall" then gave a list of instructions that i personally ignored and reinstall
[23:42] <holstein> reinstalled*
[23:43] <holstein> Mitchell92: http://askubuntu.com/questions/138950/how-to-disable-encrypted-home-directory
[23:43] <holstein> i would have backups
[23:44] <Mitchell92> not home directory, i have an encrypted drive
[23:44] <holstein> Mitchell92: sure.. let me google search that for you as well
[23:45] <holstein> Mitchell92: what i see *still* makes me want to have my data backed up before going on
[23:45] <Mitchell92> ok
[23:45] <holstein> i would rather get in the car, drive to a bestbuy, use a windows machine there to create a live USB.. and reinsatll
[23:46] <holstein> reinstall*
[23:46] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1451836
[23:46] <holstein> ^^ states reinstallation is *required*.. for full disk encryption
[23:48] <Mitchell92> ok
[23:48] <Mitchell92> thanks
[23:55] <Fieldy> hello, how can I configure a custom firewall (iptables) command to be run after the rest of the firewall has been set up?