[10:02] <elfy> hi - not sure what to report this against, or even if it's been reported, a bit hard to tell from the bug list
[10:03] <elfy> installed xorg-erver-mir and unity- system-compositor into an up to date saucy xubuntu - I'm finding it slow to keep up with scrolling of things like firefox tabs/xchat channel scrollback is particularly bad
[10:04] <elfy> it's not the same as the typing slow in a terminal issue we saw - that appears to have gone
[15:25] <Vitor> hello i need some help about graphical support for ubuntu
[15:26] <smartboyhw> Vitor, you mean, Mir?
[15:26] <Vitor> somehow yeah
[15:26] <smartboyhw> Vitor, what's the problem?
[15:27] <Vitor> i have some problems with all unix versions and i think i has something to do with the latest kernel and i would like to know if mir fix that
[15:27] <smspillaz> elfy: I've noticed that the displayed frames don't always keep up with the surface submitted frames
[15:28] <smspillaz> elfy: I think its a known issue?
[15:28] <Vitor> the prob its that if i install any of the last unix versions like ubuntu 13.10 or mint 15  my screen foes black and i cant do anything...
[15:29] <smartboyhw> Vitor, Ubuntu 13.10 is NOT recommended for end-users
[15:29] <Vitor> soz my bad i mean 13.04
[15:30] <Vitor> on installation i run the usb or cd and it goes all black
[15:30] <smartboyhw> Vitor, Mir isn't available for 13.04...
[15:30] <smartboyhw> And I don't think Mir can help you if you even can't install
[15:31] <Vitor> yeah but do u know where can i have more details bout that my graphical problems on linux?
[15:31] <smartboyhw> !xorg
[15:31] <smartboyhw> Vitor, I really don't know.. And to be honest, #ubuntu or ##linux might be a better idea
[15:31] <Vitor> i tried ubuntu channel but noone ever answer ...
[15:32] <smartboyhw> Vitor, try again tomorrow, there are less people answering on weekends
[15:32] <smartboyhw> Try ##linux also
[15:40] <elfy> smspillaz: sounds like the thing I've seen - unfrtunately  I'm not able to see if any of the existing bugs are this - I'll just try mir again sometime before Xubuntu need to make a decision
[15:40] <elfy> thanks though:)
[15:55] <smspillaz> elfy: I'm not entirely sure at the moment. The client I'm working on now I know has some issues to do with frames being submitted at the wrong time so I could just be that we're seeing different things
[15:55] <smspillaz> *it could jsut be
[15:55] <smspillaz> late-night typing is not working very well I see ...
[16:03] <elfy> :)
[22:57] <robert_ancell> RAOF, hey, why did we need to split out libmirplatform?
[22:58] <robert_ancell> I thought we should, but I couldn't think of a reason why
[22:59] <robert_ancell> thomi, btw, I arrive a day later to Lexington due to holiday and decided to go to NYC for the weekend so no flight overlap
[23:00] <robert_ancell> Interestingly none of the options from the travel agent had bad layovers
[23:18] <thomi> robert_ancell: you're hitting NYC on the way home?
[23:18] <robert_ancell> thomi, yep
[23:18] <thomi> cool :)
[23:18] <thomi> maybe the flights from NYC are better somehow
[23:19] <thomi> anyway, my layover isn't too bad I suppose
[23:19] <robert_ancell> thomi, I also had the options for the Boston flights, and they weren't bad. Though they were flying on Friday and I asked for Saturday flights
[23:20] <thomi> ahhh, that might be it - I needed Satureday flights
[23:20] <robert_ancell> So maybe Sat is a bad day to fly
[23:20] <thomi> yeah
[23:20] <robert_ancell> grr, why did dufly arbitrarily bump the soname on libmirserver?
[23:21] <robert_ancell> thomi, do you know if bug 1210811 is still applicable? Looks like some packages got temporarily out of syn
[23:21] <robert_ancell> c
[23:21] <thomi> robert_ancell: I don't know, I was going to ask you about that today
[23:22] <thomi> robert_ancell: I can kick off the test jobs again, and try and go through the results again
[23:22] <thomi> robert_ancell: however, it's worrying that this can get all the way into distro!
[23:22] <thomi> hmmm, actually, maybe robotfuel is still using the ppa
[23:22] <robert_ancell> thomi, ah, I see it
[23:23] <thomi> oh?
[23:23] <robert_ancell> libmirserver is one day ahead of u-s-c
[23:23] <robert_ancell> Though, they should be versioned to make that impossible to install
[23:24] <robert_ancell> hum, not sure,
[23:24] <robert_ancell> u-s-c is 0.0.1+13.10.20130809.1-0ubuntu1
[23:24] <robert_ancell> Dependencies.txt shows libmirserver1 0.0.8+13.10.20130810-0ubuntu1
[23:24] <robert_ancell> Not sure if those match or not. Need to check with didrocks
[23:24] <thomi> ok
[23:28] <RAOF> robert_ancell: Because libmirserver is SOVERSIONED, but libmirplatform isn't. So when libmirserver bumps SONAME conflicts happen.
[23:28] <robert_ancell> RAOF, conflicts between?
[23:29] <robert_ancell> Oh, you can't have both packages installed?
[23:29] <RAOF> Yah
[23:29] <robert_ancell> bingo
[23:31] <robert_ancell> RAOF, so debian/rules is now wrong right - it refers to libmirserver0
[23:31] <robert_ancell> I think that's the cause of bug 1210811
[23:31] <RAOF> Flying home via NYC?
[23:31] <RAOF> Ah, yes. Balls
[23:31] <robert_ancell> I'll fix it..
[23:36] <robert_ancell> RAOF, can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/mir/fix-exact-version-dependency/+merge/179619
[23:37] <RAOF> Done and approved.
[23:39] <RAOF> Are you guys flying in on Friday & Saturday? Why not Sunday?
[23:39] <robert_ancell> RAOF, I'm flying in Monday night, because I have a long weekend booked
[23:40] <RAOF> Heh. Well timed!
[23:40] <robert_ancell> Good old timezones make it possible to arrive at a reasonable time
[23:40] <robert_ancell> Should get there midnight
[23:42] <RAOF> I should get there 9-10ish Sunday.
[23:54] <robert_ancell> RAOF, do we have a catch-all comment for issues like bug 1210646?
[23:55] <robert_ancell> Also, I love the me too comment. "I have exactly the same problem but I'll describe a different symptom and entirely different hardware"
[23:56] <robert_ancell> By catch-all I mean a "Do steps x,y,z to give us enough info to diagnose video hardware problems"
[23:58] <RAOF> )
[23:58] <RAOF> :)
[23:59] <RAOF> robert_ancell: I don't have a pre-canned resopnse.