[00:01] <mike_00> vrms recognize all proprietary software
[00:01] <Fieldy> hello, how can I configure a custom firewall (iptables) command to be run after the rest of the firewall has been set up? I'd like it to be applied regardless if someone has logged in or not
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> Fieldy:  command in /etc/rc.local should do it.
[00:02] <Fieldy> Dr_Willis: thank you
[00:02] <jrib> Fieldy: what do you mean by "the rest of the firewall"?
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> but there is some iptables file that gets ran at boot time. so im not sure why you are doing it this way
[00:02] <MoPac> nutman: under that last tab, "additional drivers", it may show what video driver you're using
[00:03] <Fieldy> jrib: the command would be run after the other rules have been run (by whatever they're run by)
[00:03] <Fieldy> Dr_Willis: well, whichever gets the job done, i'm okay with editing the main rules (if there are any)
[00:03] <jrib> Fieldy: I don't know what you mean... there aren't any other rules by default...
[00:03] <Fieldy> i show a lot of rules with iptables -L -n -v
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> Fieldy:  on a defaul ubuntu install. theres no firewall rules
[00:04] <jrib> Fieldy: then you've likely added them
[00:04] <Fieldy> anyway I had already added it to rc.local, and rebooted, let's see wehat happens
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> firewall is there. but turned off/no rules basically
[00:04] <Fieldy> ah okay... shared system, another admin probably dinking with it
[00:04] <jrib> Fieldy: I would suggest you not split up your firewall configuration.  Just add it to your existing configuration
[00:04] <nutman> thanks for your help MoPac
[00:05] <Fieldy> jrib: fair point. i'll figure out how they got there in the first place (other admin)
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> !firewall
[00:05] <Fieldy> thanks folks, i'll read
[00:08] <MoPac> wilee-nilee: I've just been through the CoC, IRC Guidelines, and Supporters' Guide, and I'm wondering if you can help me find the standard of conduct that you think nutman was violating?
[00:08] <Micko113> tired to connect using teamviewer but it says connecting and just sits there
[00:10] <|JZ|> hello, would anyone know why all of the sudden ubuntu 13.04 will not boot up? .. I get a black screen with _ flashing
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> |JZ|, Did you install a proprietary graphic driver?
[00:10] <|JZ|> last thing I remember was it needed to restart for updates
[00:11] <|JZ|> I had the installed the intel driver a while ago worked fine
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | |JZ|
[00:12] <Guest65066> what is a typical installation size for ubuntu? looks like it takes up 3.2G for me!
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> |JZ|, Generally drives from the manufacturers do not follow kernel upgrades...etc.
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> Guest65066, NO typical depends on what your use may be and if you want a sperate home.
[00:12] <|JZ|> so wilee how can I set it with nomodeset?
[00:13] <|JZ|> I need live cd?
[00:13] <Guest65066> i just want a GUI Browser, vlc, and python
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> |JZ|, Nope the thread gives you all the info, you can do it from the grub menu accessed by tapping shift at powering on if it does not show.
[00:13] <Guest65066> 3.1G seems to be a lot. can i trim the size somehow?
[00:14] <Guest65066> and this is a fresh installation
[00:14] <reisio> Guest65066: it's not a lot
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> Guest65066, You are not familiar are you, that makes no sense.
[00:14] <Guest65066> am not familiar
[00:15] <|JZ|> I tried hitting shift from boot but it didn't load
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> Guest65066, Give us your end goals with the OS it will be helpful.
[00:15] <Guest65066> i used linux long time ago - then it used to be really small. suddenly 3.1G seems tough - my goals are these -
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> |JZ|, Read the link.
[00:15] <failmaster> Guest65066, you may install it over netinst image and get some lightweight desktop environment
[00:15] <Guest65066> this is all i want - 1) Firefox 2) VLC and 3) python
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> I gave you detailed instructions as well. |JZ|
[00:16] <Guest65066> i chose xfce, thought it would be light
[00:16] <failmaster> Guest65066, i would go with some fluxbox/openbox
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> Guest65066, You can do a minimal install from the alternative iso a net install, you just need some sort of desktop.
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> maybe I guess
[00:17] <s0m3b0dy> Hello, is there any FTPd that can run on multiple ports?
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> Guest65066, The net install starts with just the ubuntu base, no X unless you choose one.
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> !alternative
[00:18] <reisio> 'minimal cd' now, right?
[00:19] <reisio> silly to discontinue something in favor of something else that's basically the same thing with a different name
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> Guest65066, The bot lies, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[00:19] <Guest65066> wilee-nilee, thanks - which is a lightweight desktop environment? also does the desktop environment account for a lot of space? i have xfce right now
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> Guest65066, As far as ubuntu regular desktops lxde is the lightest, also lubuntu lxde with more, but there are handfuls of alternative X environments.
[00:20] <|JZ|> I read the link ... To set kernel boot options, you must edit your grub configuration. You can do this temporarily for a single boot by entering the grub menu. If you do not get to see the grub boot menu after the bios automatically, you may have to press SHIFT key after the bios logo to get in to grub
[00:20] <|JZ|> .. I am just gettin thrown back into the black screen .. I rebooted 4 times didn't work
[00:20] <failmaster> Guest65066, aewm, *box (e.g. fluxbox, openbox)
[00:20] <Guest65066> i see thanks a lot
[00:21] <|JZ|> pressing shift is not getting me to the next step
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> |JZ|, Poise your finger over the shift key and start taping like there is no tomorrow as soon as you hit the power on, at least to confoirm that is not bringing up the grub menu.
[00:22] <Dr_Willis> actually i thought you just pressed and HELD the shift key
[00:23] <SuperLag> When you take a screenshot, you have the option of uploading it to zimagez.com. Can you do that with a different service? is there any way to change that?
[00:23] <|JZ|> I tapped both shifts like no tomorrow still no grub menu
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> |JZ|:  so you are never getting into the 'grub edit screen' is what you are saying
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, Maybe, however needs to be done ay times it seems earlier enough.
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> at
[00:23] <|JZ|> yeah I am not getting that
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> ive also had pc's that ignored the usb keyvboard for grub.. :) had to use a ps2 keyboard.
[00:23] <|JZ|> going to power off and retry for 5th time
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> or use the boot-repair live cd thing.. to set it to not hide grub.
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> i really really wish they wouldent hide grub by default all the time.. it makes trouble shooting that much harder
[00:25] <SuperLag> |JZ|: I've had trouble with that, myself. what if you don't tap, but hold down the Shift key?
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, He has a black screen and the good ole blinking _ and proprietary graphic drivers I think, ha rd to really tell.
[00:25] <SuperLag> |JZ|: no guarantees... I tried so many combinations of things, I don't remember which one finally worked
[00:26] <failmaster> SuperLag, you could look for custom script scenarios like there were some for nautilus a while ago i used gnome2 on gnome-look.org some of them are designed for purposes you're looking for
[00:27] <DWSR> Hey all, having an issue booting into my 12.04 LTS server install. Used the server media to partition an LVM onto a boot drive, now booting from that drive gives me "Reboot and select proper boot media"
[00:29] <|JZ|> no luck with pressing shift or holding it down
[00:29] <|JZ|> I can ctrl alt delete n restart from the black screen but that's about it
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> |JZ|, I would boot a live cd and see if the partitions mount, might be something wrong, might need a fsck or some other work.
[00:30] <aj_> hello folks
[00:30] <|JZ|> going to boot from ubuntu 13.04 cd now rebooting
[00:30] <failmaster> |JZ|, can we be sure that bootloader even launches from the boot device?
[00:30] <Borreguito> Hi Friends... how can i remove  ATI Radeon  from my Toshiba Satellite ?
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> |JZ|, This a standard partitioning set up no uefi or encryption?
[00:31] <|JZ|> standard ext4
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> cool
[00:31] <|JZ|> going to boot from live cd or should I attempt hd from bios?
[00:31] <failmaster> Borreguito, with soldering station
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> |JZ|, You can use the per-session boot from menu outside the bios mine is f12 at powering on yours maybe different.
[00:32] <failmaster> preferably infrared one
[00:32] <Borreguito> Sorry.... the drivers for ATI RADEOn-..... i can't see my Unity menu..  failmaster
[00:32] <|JZ|> actually from hd brings me right back to bkack scrn
[00:32] <|JZ|> going to boot from live cd
[00:32] <failmaster> !radeon
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> |JZ|, If  cd choose cd
[00:33] <|JZ|> booting from cd now
[00:33] <DWSR> Hey all, having an issue booting into my 12.04 LTS server install. Used the server media to partition an LVM onto a boot drive, now booting from that drive gives me "Reboot and select proper boot media"
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> |JZ|, ON occaison the computer may do it from cd or usb..etc inspite of actual media
[00:34] <|JZ|> I can set the nomodeset from live cd?
[00:34] <|JZ|> or reinstall ubuntu?
[00:35] <failmaster> |JZ|, you can do that
[00:35] <|JZ|> which? failmaster
[00:35] <failmaster> |JZ|, both
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> |JZ|, I would just check to start with if the partitions mount and if there are any errors shown in gparted on them
[00:35] <|JZ|> okay
[00:35] <failmaster> |JZ|, was bootloader installed in the MBR of that device?
[00:36] <DWSR> Hey all, having an issue booting into my 12.04 LTS server install. Used the server media to partition an LVM onto a boot drive, now booting from that drive gives me "Reboot and select proper boot media"
[00:36] <|JZ|> yeah it always worked
[00:36] <|JZ|> just had updated needed to restart
[00:36] <|JZ|> now I can't get inti gui
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> |JZ|, If you had the grub bootloader showing you could do a nomodeset and a text boot to see errors.
[00:36] <|JZ|> I just loaded 13.04 live cd
[00:37] <|JZ|> do I click try ubuntu or install?
[00:37] <Dr_Willis> that boot-repair tool can set the options for the default grub on the installed system cant it? its been a while since ive used it
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> DWSR, If  a #ubuntu-server you might ask there as well.
[00:37] <riex> Hello everybody. Somebody here that can tell me which kind of traffic this here is: http://pastebin.com/pJU0h3d7 <- ? Please. :-)
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, yeah, that is certainly a good option. ;)
[00:38] <DWSR> wilee-nilee: I am./
[00:38] <|JZ|> do I click try ubuntu or install from livecd ?
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> DWSR, Cool, just want to see you succeed. ;)
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> |JZ|, Try
[00:38] <failmaster> |JZ|, you may click nothing or click "try" until you dont want to resintall it, in that case i would go through chroot environment to have a look on what might went wrong
[00:38] <failmaster> !chroot | |JZ|
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> |JZ|, Did you install originally this way or from windows maybe a wubi?
[00:39] <|JZ|> na
[00:39] <|JZ|> I installed from ubuntu cd
[00:39] <|JZ|> fresh install of 13.04
[00:39] <|JZ|> when it came out
[00:39] <rreed> hey guys. if i have a trojan-infected Windows 8 installation, is it logical to assume that if I log into it and create a Recovery CD, that the Recovery CD will be infected?
[00:39] <|JZ|> no windows was on pc
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> |JZ|, Which release?
[00:39] <failmaster> rreed, not necessary
[00:40] <|JZ|> ubuntu 13.04 x64
[00:40] <rreed> trying to get migrated completely over to 13.04, but not sure if i should bother with the USB or not.
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> rreed, I would as k in ##windows
[00:40] <rreed> failmaster, Alright. I imagine specifics are probably gonna need to be directed to ##windows.
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> |JZ|, Cool thanks.
[00:40] <rreed> wilee-nilee, Heading there now :)
[00:41] <failmaster> rreed, i'm not into windows 8 but i'm not 100% sure i understood your doubts, define the "rescue cd"
[00:41] <DWSR> Hey, having an issue booting into my Ubuntu 12.04 Server install. Used an LVM, now getting "Reboot and Select proper Boot device" when trying to access the single disk in the LVM.
[00:41] <riex> Hello everybody. Somebody here that can tell me what kind of traffic this here is: http://pastebin.com/pJU0h3d7 <- ? Please. :-)
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> rreed:  i would doubt it.. that wou;ld be some impressive malware.  but id say ask in #windows - or if worried about it.. get  an official recovery ISO media
[00:43] <Borreguito> Into Windows.... .you cant use the Recovery  app at recovery partition!!!
[00:45] <trfsrfr> what is the linux version of /?
[00:45] <reisio> you mean the original version of /?
[00:45] <reisio> :p
[00:45] <reisio> it's --help
[00:45] <reisio> or -h
[00:45] <reisio> or man foo
[00:45] <FloodBot1> reisio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:45] <riex> nobody knows ?
[00:45] <reisio> riex: knows what?
[00:46] <riex> reisio: http://pastebin.com/pJU0h3d7
[00:46] <riex> what kind of traffic is that?
[00:47] <reisio> kind?
[00:47] <riex> ye
[00:47] <reisio> you might ask #networking
[00:47] <riex> TCP or UDP - ICMP?
[00:47] <riex> ;>
[00:47] <riex> I will
[00:47] <SunTsu> or create a dump file and ask wireshark
[00:47] <riex> SunTsu: great idea
[00:47] <riex> =D
[00:47] <reisio> the art of netwerk
[00:49] <selite> My graphics card is ATI Mobility Radeon 5470 and Ubuntu gravely overheats because of that. Is there any other Linux OS that might work with my shitty graphics card for which there are no drivers?
[00:49] <danny4way> how come ubuntu doesn't resume what i did after battery went dead
[00:50] <danny4way> ??
[00:50] <failmaster> danny4way, due to politics on what it should do at emergency low power level
[00:50] <failmaster> probably
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> selite, Two things no swearing and for general OS info not really here, however here is a askubuntu.com with that issue addresses in some places. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=Radeon+5470
[00:51] <danny4way> so there is no way I am able to resume my ubuntu after  battery is gone dead?
[00:52] <selite> wilee-nilee: If you can help me, help me. If not, shut up.
[00:52] <danny4way> Because my laptop has very bad battery and my school has no outlet for my laptop
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> !attitude | selite
[00:52] <danny4way> It does but I have sight problem so I have to sit in the front which there is no outlet for my laptop
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> selite, I would be more than happy to call the ops, however if you can have some composure you will get help.
[00:53] <cstewart> no doubt i missed the actual problem and might be able to help
[00:53] <selite> wilee-nilee: Sorry, what are the ops?
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> selite, The moderators with the power to ban or quiet you. ;)
[00:54] <cstewart> Good evening Gents
[00:54] <rreed> cstewart, Good evening :)
[00:54] <failmaster> selite, the thing is.. all distros include the same drivers, the only difference is versions of those, maybe all of them operate with it so it overheats, but i seriously doubt that the first cause is a driver itself
[00:54] <vaskaloidis> Hey I have static IP set up on my Ubuntu 12 server through ethernet - I can ping my laptop connected to WIFI from my ubuntu server but I cannot ping the outside ethernet or my router
[00:54] <failmaster> selite, so you might wanna check the cooling subsystem
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> selite, WE try to jus in general interact here like we would face to face, general respect is all. ;)
[00:55] <selite> wilee-nilee: Alright sorry if I've offended you in any way.
[00:55] <cstewart> It could be one of two problems, more then likely DNS does /etc/resolv.conf have nameservers or are me missing a gateway in your static config
[00:55] <failmaster> selite, don't feed volunteers
[00:56] <babinlonston> dpkg installation Error how to Clear it
[00:56] <selite> failmaster: I've checked the cooling system and it works amazing with Windows 7, however, with Ubuntu it has really serious issues.
[00:56] <vaskaloidis> cstewart: I have the correct gateway set - I 192.168.1.1 and I can view it through a web browser on my laptop
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> selite, I'm not offended but you were on a downword spiral in several areas, just a heads up is all. ;)
[00:56] <vaskaloidis> but my server is connected to a switch which is connoted to the router cstewart so could that be the problem?
[00:56] <selite> failmaster: Even with an external cooler, the laptop simply has problems functioning due to the heat.
[00:57] <failmaster> selite, maybe it's specifics of linux driver version, however you might wanna check the default documentation related to radeon driver, e.g. opensource one or propietary and trying switching one against another
[00:57] <babinlonston> histo: dpkg error facing please help http://paste.ubuntu.com/5971857/
[00:57] <failmaster> !radeon | selite
[00:57] <cstewart> it could be but more then likely not, you can add dns-nameserver 8.8.8.8 for example to your static config
[00:57] <vaskaloidis> cstewart: yeah I have my router listed as a DNS server
[00:58] <vaskaloidis> cstewart: I cannot ping my router's IP address even! it says host unreachable
[00:58] <vaskaloidis> but I can ping my laptop though which is connected through WiFi
[00:58] <selite> failmaster: I've tried both the proprietary and open source drivers and neither of them work. Is my only option to buy a new laptop?
[00:58] <cstewart> ok back up you have a laptop and server or ubuntu pc on the same network
[00:59] <danny4way> Is there any way that ubuntu will shut up when battery is dead and still resume when battery is connected?
[00:59] <cstewart> laptop is over wifi and pc is connected to switch which is connected to router?
[00:59] <vaskaloidis> cstewart yes!
[00:59] <danny4way> down*
[00:59] <vaskaloidis> cstewart: I also have an extra access point contacted to the switch that the ubuntu server is on
[00:59] <failmaster> selite, besides that cooling systems in laptops are complicated in a context of whole enclosure design, so if we'll imagine there is some controller which operates main cpu fan rmps according to provide silent working and there is some thermistor behind another controller that should inform it to increase rpms according to gpu temperature
[00:59] <vaskaloidis> cstewart: but you are correct, the switch is connected to the router
[01:00] <cstewart> the switch is it a wifi / router
[01:00] <failmaster> selite, it might not work for some reason
[01:00] <reisio> selite: what's the computer make/model?
[01:00] <vaskaloidis> cstewart: no the switch is a regular switch, and I have a wireless access point connected to it
[01:00] <selite> reisio: It's a sony vaio VPCEV2H4E.
[01:00] <vaskaloidis> cstewart: the access point is plugged into the switch to one of its ethernet ports, the switch is only wired
[01:01] <danny4way> Please? Anyone? My laptop has to resume sometimes.
[01:01] <cstewart> ok but is the switch directly wired to your main internet router or are you using access point bridge
[01:02] <vaskaloidis> cstewart: my switch is running off my router - and the router is connected directly to the modem
[01:02] <vaskaloidis> cstewart: the switch is hard-wired to the router through ethernet
[01:02] <danny4way>                          
[01:02] <cstewart> it sounds like the switch or cable between them is faulty
[01:02] <vaskaloidis> cstewart: I am going to double check, I will be right back
[01:02] <failmaster> selite, so before buying the new one, check if it works fine under linux, it was like that in dark ages, you was choosing the appropriate hardware according to software support
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Your request are missing details in several areas.
[01:02] <cstewart> can you plug your laptop into the switch and see if you can ping the pc and laptop etc
[01:02] <jesusemelendezm> Dannny4way may I help you?
[01:03] <danny4way> Yes. My laptop has bad battery. So it shut downs automatically when it reaches 0%
[01:03] <failmaster> i have a problem with switching passphrase luks auth on boot to key file based, extra details: http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization anyone?
[01:03] <danny4way> But I want my laptop to let it shut down but I don't want to lose any information
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, How many times have you let this happen?
[01:03] <danny4way> Is there any way Ubuntu can do that?
[01:03] <selite> failmaster: Yes, I should probably do that.Htnak you for your help.
[01:03] <danny4way> Well. Many times.
[01:04] <selite> failmaster: *thank
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Stop doing that it is damaging.
[01:04] <danny4way> Really?
[01:04] <hayer> Get a new battery. warrenty or buy a new one
[01:04] <reisio> shutting down at 0% is what happens with good batteries
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Hard shutdowns damage any OS
[01:04] <danny4way> I was like whatever  because my laptop battery is already damaged
[01:04] <reisio> potentially damage...
[01:04] <twodoo_> Hey anyone know if V2P conversion of a VM is possible? I want minimum downtime for my server
[01:04] <MrO> Folks - i just wanted to say thank you to whoever works on Ubuntu.
[01:04] <hayer> Either you do it properly or you don't do it at all.
[01:05] <reisio> twodoo_: v2p?
[01:05] <BudManz> Hi, I am trying to use my ubuntu 12.04 fileserver to backup a remote windows file system.  I have the user created and can ssh in with the credentials, but I don't know how to connect to it from windows... any help?
[01:05] <MrO> Its a fantastic piece of software and i love using it.
[01:05] <BudManz> +1 Mr0
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> linux is better tha most there, but common sense should answer this.
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> than
[01:05] <danny4way> When i first bought my laptop, it at least lasted 5 hours. Now it only lasts 30 mins or sometimes more.
[01:05] <mead|laptop> can anyone help me install a ati remote wonder plus driver ?
[01:06] <twodoo_> reisio: virtual to physical?
[01:06] <hayer> Probably some battery cells that have died. Usually heat is the #1 killer
[01:06] <danny4way> Yeah. I tried compressed air already. It helps a lot.
[01:06] <danny4way> So should I get battery replacement?
[01:06] <hayer> danny4way: When is the warrenty out?
[01:06] <danny4way> It's already out. I bought this laptop for more than 2 years
[01:07] <hayer> Then buy a new battery or salvage a battery from some other laptop
[01:07] <mead|laptop> danny4way: price the battery and compare it to the cost of what you want to upgrade to
[01:07] <danny4way> Oh I see.
[01:08] <reisio> BudManz: mount -t cifs //ip.ip.ip.ip/dir /mnt/point -o "username=foo",uid=localuser
[01:08] <danny4way> I mean my current laptop has intel core duo inside
[01:08] <danny4way> So yeah. Probably I should get a new laptop
[01:08] <DWSR> Can anyone help me with recovering GRUB on a Ubuntu 12.04 server install using LVM?
[01:08] <danny4way> I know intel core duo 2 can handle ubuntu but I just want more performance.
[01:09] <reisio> or carry a power plant around with you :p
[01:09] <twodoo_> twodoo
[01:09] <danny4way> If you recommend, tell me what is the best requirement that would run smoothly for Ubuntu for Editing, Videos and Entertainment.
[01:09] <BudManz> reisio: thanks, but I already have the linkage on the Ubuntu box set up, I just don't know (other than using cygwin) how to access it from windows
[01:10] <reisio> BudManz: you want to ssh from Windows to Ubuntu?
[01:10] <mead|laptop> I hate  it when laptop manufactures build their laptops so that you can't access the fan/heat sink to clean it.   compressed air can only remove so much
[01:10] <BudManz> yes, so I can setup a Scheduled Task to backup a friend's documents on my server
[01:10] <danny4way> Because I heard that Ubuntu is lighter OS than Windows. Plus I hate Windows anyway. I like Mac more than Windows.
[01:10]  * wilee-nilee looks for the windup power supply’s.
[01:11] <reisio> BudManz: mmm
[01:11] <DWSR> BudManz: Use Putty.
[01:11] <BudManz> DWSR: ok... plink?
[01:11] <BudManz> never thought of that
[01:11] <DWSR> BudManz: Yep, if you just need to the tunnel
[01:12] <BudManz> right
[01:12] <BudManz> thanks!
[01:12] <DWSR> np
[01:17] <mead|laptop> can someone help me? I found a forum post for it : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1875938  but as soon as it starts talking about patching a kernal module it might as well be written in klingon...
[01:19] <cuddylier> I seem to be having a few network issues on my ubuntu server, it appears it can only ping certain websites such as google but the DNS resolution is fine as it shows the IP when trying to ping certain sites other server boxes I have can ping fine..
[01:19] <cuddylier> Anyone any ideas or things I can check?
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> mead|laptop, Can you tell the channel the errors on any problem, details are the key here. Is that driver a proprietary source, for the channel please.
[01:20] <aj_> d
[01:20] <Ben64> cuddylier: what do you mean exactly
[01:21] <cuddylier> Ben64 Well, my server box can ping e.g. google or using google's IP
[01:21] <SunTsu> cuddylier: there's lots of packet filters that block ICMP, it's quite normal that you can't ping every server
[01:21] <cuddylier> Ben64 But when I try to ping e.g. spartanmc.net which is online and pingable by other server boxes it doesn't ping eventhough it retrieves the IP address through DNS resolution.
[01:22] <cuddylier> SunTsu What happens if I can't ping a server that I need to ping and it's one that I own and I have many other boxes which can ping it fine which are in different datacentres and the same?
[01:22] <Ben64> cuddylier: sounds like a routing issue
[01:23] <cuddylier> Ben64 Yep... is there anything I can do myself on my server box?
[01:23] <SunTsu> cuddylier: then you might want to make shorter sentences ;)
[01:23] <mead|laptop> wilee-nilee: I have a product called a"ati remote wonderplus" I can't figure out how to install the apropriate driver to get it to work with my ubuntu (xbmcbuntu) install.  Google finds me loose instructions saying I need to patch a kernal module or something.   I am clueless when it comes to patching something manually with linux.
[01:24] <SunTsu> cuddylier: try traceroute ing the server, see where the traceroute ends
[01:24] <cuddylier> SunTsu Tracerouting the server I'm having issues with remotely?
[01:25] <SunTsu> cuddylier: yeah
[01:25]  * wiak compiled his kernel with power save on battery
[01:25] <wiak> more useful on laptop
[01:25] <wiak> so its forced to use that <3
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> mead|laptop, In general top the channel so it is obvious you are not getting help. Technically not a ubuntu support issue, however, does not mean no one will help, here is a thread with a solved, that's about my best effort, best of luck. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1875938
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> to
[01:26] <cartusia> hmm how do you theme Unity? I have been trying to do it through system settings is there somewhere else. The reason why I ask my mouse pointer is invisible, I had fixed that by changing the color of the mouse pointer before.
[01:26] <cartusia> But I dont know exactly how to do that in Unity.
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> cartusia, you might check youtube.
[01:26] <reisio> not likely much to do with unity
[01:27] <cartusia> I did get an error
[01:27] <cartusia> wicd needs to access your computer's network cards
[01:27] <mead|laptop> wilee-nilee: do you know where I could find help outside of this channel
[01:27] <reisio> and that's not likely much to do with mouse pointers
[01:27] <cartusia> I already tried sir, plus its hard for me to check without being able to see where my mouse is at.
[01:27] <Stripe> close
[01:28] <Ben64> mead|laptop: see if there is an xbmcbuntu channel or support forum
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> mead|laptop, ##linux might help, there may be a forum on that stuff, I would look on the web for an irc channel maybe as well.
[01:28] <mead|laptop> thanks, wilee-nilee
[01:28] <devicenull> anyone have suggestions for speeing up ubuntu installs?  I'm trying to reduce the amount of time spent running the installer.
[01:29] <devicenull> I only need the bare minimum packages, plus ssh
[01:29] <SunTsu> devicenull: faster disks?
[01:29] <reisio> devicenull: copy instead of install
[01:29] <reisio> or use debootstrap
[01:29] <cstewart> use clonezilla or imaging software
[01:29] <devicenull> images are terrible, I'd really prefer to do installations
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> understand patience
[01:30] <SunTsu> devicenull: alternate/minimal image might help speeding things up by installing less, though
[01:30] <failmaster> i have a problem with switching passphrase luks auth on boot to key file based, extra details: http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization anyone?
[01:30] <devicenull> well, I'm already netbooting and I think it's doing a minimal install.  I'll have to confirm it's actually minimal though
[01:31] <wilee-nilee> SunTsu, same thing as of now and includes the download actually takes longer, but you get a nice minimal.
[01:31] <reisio> devicenull: you can tar up your install and just cp it over and extract it with minimal effort
[01:31] <cuddylier> SunTsu: http://pastebin.com/iGMBm7F5
[01:31] <cuddylier> That is from my home PC
[01:31] <SunTsu> wilee-nilee: hence the slash
[01:31] <devicenull> aka freebsd installer, heh
[01:32] <SunTsu> cuddylier: looks normal to me
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> SunTsu, Still takes longer hash or not then a standard download and install
[01:33] <SunTsu> wilee-nilee: well, my latest install took 7 minutes, for a standard install. Fast enough for me
[01:34] <xavious> Hello; I'm trying to locate an SD card in this notebook on xubuntu 13.04, Any help would be greatly appreciate.
[01:34] <MercX> df -h
[01:34] <MercX> should show you what is connected, from there you can mount it
[01:35] <xavious> MercX; Thank you.
[01:40] <cuddylier> SunTsu: This is a traceroute from the MySQL database box to the one I want to use as the client: http://pastebin.com/k7Z7ceSt
[01:40] <cuddylier> the client is the one that cannot ping the database box IP
[01:40] <HisaoNakai> Hey folks. Got a USB 3 hard disk (on a USB 2 port) here refusing to work, need to get it running ASAP. The power indicator lights up, but the device doesn't mount. Part of dmesg - http://hastebin.com/qotevonihu.css
[01:42] <cuddylier> SunTsu: The database box can't seem to ping the client box either..
[01:42] <Ben64> cuddylier: wait for the routing to get fixed
[01:42] <cuddylier> Ben64 How will I do that though..
[01:43] <xavious> MercX; It says its already mounted on dev, As udev. Can't locate it.
[01:43] <reisio> HisaoNakai: does it have separate power?
[01:43] <Ben64> cuddylier: uh, you literally wait
[01:43] <cuddylier> Ben64 Yeah... it seems to be a Europe -> US and US -> Europe problem as I'm in Europe, same as client server and it can ping my own Network IP
[01:43] <Ben64> xavious: what are you trying to do?
[01:44] <cuddylier> So looks like routing as you said
[01:44] <HisaoNakai> reisio: No.
[01:44] <reisio> HisaoNakai: is this port powered?
[01:44] <xavious> Ben64;  Trying to find this SD card I inserted into the notebook.
[01:44] <HisaoNakai> reisio: Yeah.
[01:44] <HisaoNakai> reisio: If it lights up doesn't it indicate so? o.o
[01:45] <Ben64> xavious: pastebin the outputs of "dmesg" and "mount"
[01:45] <reisio> some things take more power than an LED :)
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> xavious, does sudo fdik -l show it?
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> sudo fdisk -l
[01:45] <HisaoNakai> Har har, reisio . It might be a power problem, I wouldn't know. How do I find out?
[01:47] <xavious> wilee-nilee; Yes, It also gave its path.
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> xavious, Cool do the pastebin suggested.
[01:47] <reisio> HisaoNakai: try it in the other ports, at least one will be powered
[01:48] <dr_willis_> HisaoNakai:  how are you mounting it?
[01:49] <xavious> !pastebin
[01:49] <HisaoNakai> dr_willis_: I'm afraid I don't understand your question o_o
[01:50] <dr_willis_> HisaoNakai:  you plug it in and then tried to mount it using the mount command?
[01:50] <dr_willis_> !mount
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> xavious, I have a acer d250 netbook always problematic with a mini ssd, booting it with it in was the only answer to work most often.
[01:52] <HisaoNakai> dr_willis_: No, I waited for it to automount :\
[01:52] <xavious> wilee-nilee; Yeah seems that way, Thanks if not I'll be back. Heh
[01:52] <HisaoNakai> reisio: I think we can safely rule out power issues.
[01:53] <AndChat-224721> HisaoNakai:  mount it by hand.. look for errors. which device is it in dmesg?
[01:53] <Hexagonite> How do you install Gnome Flashback on Ubuntu 13.04?
[01:53] <reisio> what's gnome flashback?
[01:54] <reisio> Hexagonite: it's available from universe for 13.10
[01:55] <Hexagonite> you sure? Gnome Flashback is Gnome Panel for version 3.8
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> !nounity | Hexagonite
[01:56] <wilee-nilee> Hexagonite, 3.8 would not technically be supported her
[01:56] <wilee-nilee> here
[01:56] <Hexagonite> :( how come?
[01:56] <HisaoNakai> dr-willis: sdc
[01:56] <wilee-nilee> Hexagonite, Not a stock install you would need a PPA at the least.
[01:57] <dr-willis> HisaoNakai:  sdc1 or what partition
[01:57] <HisaoNakai> dr-willis: and I get a 'special device /dev/sdc/ does not exist' when I sudo mount /dev/sdc /mnt
[01:57] <Hexagonite> wilee-nilee: doesn't 13.10 use 3.8?
[01:57] <HisaoNakai> dr-willis: I have yet to see partition numbers anywhere O_o
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> Hexagonite, Does not mean no one will help, it just cuts down that possibility.
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> !13.10 | Hexagonite
[01:57] <IdleOne> Hexagonite: you can try this PPA but note that PPA's are not supported in here http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/gnome_3/raring/main/base/gnome-session-flashback
[01:58] <dr-willis> HisaoNakai:  then the hd is not sdc or its not partitioned.. or its dead
[01:58] <Hexagonite> IdleOne: thanks!
[01:58] <HisaoNakai> dr-willis: ack. :o
[01:58] <dr-willis> HisaoNakai:  try lookjng at       sudo blkid   to see a list
[01:59] <HisaoNakai> dr-willis: Doesn't show up.
[01:59] <HisaoNakai> *in that list
[01:59] <dr-willis> HisaoNakai:   tried it on another pc?
[02:00] <dr-willis> how  did you think it was   sdc?
[02:00] <HisaoNakai> dr-willis: Do not have access to one but since someone just gave it to me to transfer files I can safely assume it was working for them.
[02:00] <HisaoNakai> dr-willis: dmesg
[02:00] <dr-willis> what filesystem is on it?
[02:01] <HisaoNakai> dr-willis: How does one know that without mounting it?
[02:01] <dr-willis> ask your friend? ;-)
[02:01] <HisaoNakai> Haha.
[02:01] <dr-willis> its not some wonky exvfat or mac!
[02:01] <dr-willis> ?
[02:02] <HisaoNakai> It has a very high possibility of being in some mac format o_O
[02:02] <HisaoNakai> Related?
[02:02] <dr-willis> id try it in a  powered usb hub also
[02:03] <dr-willis> id pastebin dmesg output also.  not a huge image please..  ;-)
[02:06] <HisaoNakai> dr_willis_: huge image? o_O
[02:07] <HisaoNakai> dr_willis_: Anyway, I had to send it back, time was an issue, sorry. Thanks for the help.
[02:07] <dr_willis_> its annoying when paste screenshots of  text
[02:07] <HisaoNakai> dr_willis_: mac formatted stuff causes issues on Linux?
[02:08] <dr_willis_> HisaoNakai: it can
[02:08] <dr_willis_> !hfs
[02:11] <HisaoNakai> dr_willis_: Hm...I see, thanks, Doc. :)
[02:31] <mike_00> ryaxnb_:how do i protect my horse from getting high all the time?
[02:33] <reisio> heh
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> keep outta that special garden
[02:38] <Guest56190> hi channel
[02:39] <reisio> hi
[02:41] <Guest56190> whats crappining?
[02:41] <Calligar> Hey, I'm working on an Asus G74Sx, and on LinuxMint 15 Mate 64-bit, num keys don't work.  Any suggestions?
[02:42] <Guest56190> bet its drivers
[02:44] <Calligar> Yeah, from what I was looking up, apparently it doesn't have a num lock key (which is frustrating), at the begining, there is a message (when loading) that says num lock turned on or turning on.  However on keyboard, num lock light is turned off, and any number key on the  keyboard doesn't um...well respond.
[02:44] <Guest56190> yikes
[02:45] <Calligar> well the normal number keys work, specifically the ones on the num lock side don't work.
[02:45] <Guest56190> maybe plug and play needs to be enabled?
[02:45] <Calligar> It's not an external keyboard, what does it have to do with plug and play?
[02:45] <Guest56190> never seen any form lf linux without the keybd
[02:46] <MrHotsauce> Calligar: try suspending and unsuspending your laptop
[02:46] <Calligar> Uh...okay...
[02:46] <MrHotsauce> my friend had issues with his keyboard same laptop doing that fixerd it for him
[02:47] <Guest56190> good call MrHotsauce<<<
[02:47] <dr_willis_> search the bug reports yet? do the keys work in the console?
[02:47] <MrHotsauce> my friend had issues with his keyboard same laptop doing that fixerd it for him
[02:47] <MrHotsauce> since you missed it
[02:47] <Calligar> Okay, suspended and unsuspended
[02:47] <Calligar> those keys still don't work, num lock light still not coming on.
[02:47] <dr_willis_> sounds like a  weird bug
[02:48] <MrHotsauce> arnt the keys fn keys?
[02:48] <Micko113> how to start transmissionbt on boot in 12.04 ?
[02:48] <Guest56190> dam bugs anyways
[02:48] <Micko113> desktop
[02:48] <Calligar> no they aren't, it actually has a num key side, and its a laptop
[02:48] <Calligar> i dont have fn num keys afaik
[02:48] <dr_willis_> Micko113:  what?
[02:48] <Guest56190> mY CAPS light doesnt come on sometimes
[02:48] <Micko113> how do I auto start transmissionbt on boot
[02:49] <Micko113> desktop
[02:49] <reisio> Micko113: the GTK+ UI?
[02:49] <Micko113> install
[02:49] <Micko113> yes
[02:49] <dr_willis_> transmission has a cli  client also
[02:49] <reisio> Micko113: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[02:49] <dr_willis_> start it from rc.local perhaps
[02:49] <reisio> said GTK+
[02:50] <reisio> Micko113: you can also probably just start it, then log out
[02:50] <reisio> which will save your session
[02:50] <dr_willis_> use screen.  ;-)
[02:50] <Calligar> Guest said driver issue, is there a way to switch the keyboard driver to a different one or something, perhaps when I installed linux mint (which i jus did 3 days ago and was setting everything up), it didn't select the right keyboard?
[02:50] <Micko113> after reebot its not auto started, I have to manually start
[02:51] <dr_willis_> Calligar:  you may wsnt to ask in the  mjnt channels
[02:51] <Micko113> what would be a command for this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ADD.png
[02:51] <bencc> how can I install a package from qunatal on 12.10?
[02:51] <Calligar> oh okay, would u mind tellin me what the mint channels are, this is the only one I know of?
[02:51] <Guest56190> its 64 bit he claims, I just thought first thing was drivers
[02:51] <bencc> I've tried: sudo apt-get install -t quantal libopus-dev
[02:51] <dr_willis_> !mint
[02:52] <dr_willis_> bencc:  you dont mixx package release versions
[02:52] <Calligar> So the channel is called "#linuxmint-help" ?
[02:52] <dr_willis_> that can get  bad.
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> Micko113, Did you run the startup applications running command and what release is this?
[02:52] <bencc> dr_willis_: in this case it should be fine. it's a standalone audio codec
[02:53] <Guest56190> how is ver 12 ubuntu running?
[02:53] <Guest56190> or 13
[02:53] <bencc> dr_willis_: is there a way to do it?
[02:53] <dr_willis_> bencc:  download the deb  perhaps
[02:53] <bencc> dr_willis_: I'm looking for somethign with apt-get
[02:54] <Micko113> just added "transmission -m" and did reboot
[02:54] <bencc> I know it is possible
[02:54] <Micko113> hold on pls
[02:54] <bencc> just don't know the command
[02:54] <dr_willis_> bencc:  you dont mixx releases that way
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> Micko113, be sure to use nicks if you are answering someone.
[02:55] <bencc> dr_willis_: you said it. I'm missing a line in my source list and it will be fine
[02:55] <bencc> dr_willis_: don't worry : )
[02:55] <dr_willis_> bencc:  if it explodes.......
[02:56] <bencc> what will happen?
[02:56] <bencc> nothing
[02:56] <dr_willis_> you blame yourself.. not us
[02:56] <bencc> dr_willis_:  this is the package I need http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/libopus0
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> mmmm doctors orders
[02:56] <bencc> you see that there are no strange deps
[02:57] <Micko113> here's version http://i.imgur.com/lUeipZG.png
[02:57] <bencc> so nothing can go wrong
[02:57] <Micko113> last start up command did not work
[02:57] <wilee-nilee> !who | Micko113
[02:57] <dr_willis_> famous last words.
[02:57] <Micko113> ok, will do
[02:57] <Calligar> Okay, found linuxmint channel, thanks
[02:58] <Calligar> Bye.
[02:58] <Guest56190> nice channel, battery needing charged l8r's
[02:58] <bencc> dr_willis_: it's ok to understand the risk
[02:58] <bencc> dr_willis_: and not just act without knowing what you do
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> Micko113, Read my posts to you if you do not understand state this. you need just transmission in the command, and you want to populate the actual startup applications, hence I asked for the release.
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> Micko113, You're best to add startups from the startup applications gui.
[03:01] <Micko113> wilee-nilee: ok, I added this "transmission-gtk -m" to start up and did reboot
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> Micko113, and
[03:02] <Micko113> wilee-nilee: is that what you were talking about?
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> Micko113, Seems to be your case of contention, yes.
[03:02] <Micko113> wilee-nilee: its rebooting
[03:05] <Micko113> wilee-nilee: it works, this did the trick http://i.imgur.com/N1vxOT1.png
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> Micko113, Cool, enjoy
[03:05] <Micko113> wilee-nilee: Thank you!
[03:13] <S[o]let> what's the best way to install 12.04 x86 desktop without x or gui? i -could- install and then rip it back out but that seems like a lot more work
[03:13] <daftykins> minimal install disc
[03:13] <daftykins> or alternate install disc
[03:14] <imad> hello
[03:15] <zykotick9> S[o]let: use the mini iso, don't select the desktop option
[03:16] <S[o]let> mini iso==alternate?
[03:16] <zykotick9> !mini | S[o]let
[03:19] <S[o]let> ty
[03:21] <ffio> can sendmail and postfix can work together ? or i have to uninstall sendmail to make postfix work successfully ?
[03:21] <kiwicam> Hello. I hope I'm in the right place. I'm trying to upgrade my server from 10.04 to 12.04 but am getting "dpkg-reconfigure apt" and  if I install that "E: Package python-gnupginterface has no installation candidate"
[03:22] <wilee-nilee> !eol | kiwicam eol's have a specific path
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> kiwicam, Sorry my mistake not a eol.
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> kiwicam, No desktop right?
[03:27] <steamboat> Anyone want to help me installing ubuntu? The installer can't recognize the windows 8 partition and wants to erase it
[03:28] <steamboat> I'm sympathetic, but would prefer to keep for games
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> !uefi |steamboat
[03:28] <kiwicam> ubottu: no desktop. Just  aserver
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> steamboat, here be some more laddy. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[03:29] <fbdystang> Hi, I just installed an ubuntu zentyal email server. I am using afraid.org for dns. I can send emails just fine but cannot receive them. Please advise, and thanks in advance!
[03:29] <kiwicam> ubottu: no desktop. Server
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> kiwicam, You might ask in #ubuntu-server if this is a ubuntu server
[03:29] <fbdystang> ah, thanks
[03:30] <steamboat> thanks
[03:30] <steamboat> I'll see if that helps
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> steamboat, Heh, uefi is more fun than you should be allowed to have, backup/clone W8 first.
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> steamboat, And have a recovery or install disc
[03:32] <noiro> You know how in KDE how you can set how many lines the scroll wheel scrolls on the mouse per 'click' of the scroll? How do you do that in Gnome?
[03:33] <Rosenzweig_> Hey Guys i need some help.
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> noiro, should be in mouse
[03:33] <noiro> Nope. All I see is pointer speed, double-click and primary button
[03:33] <Rosenzweig_> So I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 12.10, and my FGLRX driver broke. AFter fiddling around, I realized that FGLRX no longer is supported and that it breaks with X, so I instaleld some fglrx-legacy driver and that didn't work either.
[03:34] <Rosenzweig_> So now, I just want to use the free driver... but I don't know how.
[03:34] <Rosenzweig_> I removed all the fgrlx crap, installed the xserver-xorg-video-ati package and it still boots into VESA mode.
[03:34] <Rosenzweig_> Can someone help me? Because I'm extremely confused.
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> noiro, I'm not in ubuntu now so I can't actually look.
[03:35] <circut> how do you take a screen shot? I have parted magic live usb running. Not sure which video is running?
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> !prtsc
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> !screeshot
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> !screenshot
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> circut, ^^^
[03:36] <circut> in terminal I tried the windows fn + prnt scrn keys , no output?
[03:36] <Rosenzweig_> So guys, radeondriver... free... not sure how to get working. Might anyone help me please?
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> circut, Partedmagic is not ubuntu though nor even linuxso not technically supported you might look on the web or ask in ##windows
[03:38] <circut> I thought it was part of unix os. Different animal. sorry for that!
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> circut, No biggie we want you to get help. ;)
[03:39] <circut> But Ubuntu or libnux where does it output the file - the  comamnd 1screenshot ?
[03:41] <Rosenzweig_> Anyone here know how to completely install and test the free radeon driver?
[03:41] <Rosenzweig_> Because I never have any clue how to do this.
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> circut, This is ubuntu support only, if you were actually using it we would be done.
[03:44] <Rosenzweig_> Okay I removed fgrlx for the millionth time and tried installing the free ati driver.
[03:44] <Rosenzweig_> Let's hope this works.
[03:46] <Rosenzweig_> And nope, I get this broken resolution VESA crap again.
[03:46] <Rosenzweig_> Is anyone a legacy ATI user here?
[03:51] <zykotick9> Rosenzweig_: the ATI driver is open, NOT free... there is a difference.  the open AMD/ATI driver still needs non-free firmware for 3D support, thus it is open source - but there is NO "free" (as in FAIF) 3d support for AMD/ATI
[03:51] <circut> Anyone know command to mount a /dev? I mean a partition on the hdd? do I need to be in any certain dorectory forst ?
[03:52] <kiwicam> wilee-nilee: I'm pretty sure it is now EOL: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases I have found this which is the exact same issue I'm having, but no solution thee http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1886798
[03:52] <circut> My first partition sda1 is the directory - folder I want to open?
[03:52] <Rosenzweig> zykotick9, not FOSS free... but either way.
[03:52] <Rosenzweig> I need to install this driver and I have no clue how to.
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> kiwicam, The server is still supported for a little longer
[03:55] <kiwicam> I've tried changing my sources.list from  NL to Main with no luck. I have an internet connection and apahce2 is running and working. Ping to google doesn't workas per that thread but the other ping does.
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> kiwicam, https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&fp=43eebc53500b5131&hl=en&q=Package+python-gnupginterface+has+no+installation+candidate+bug
[03:56] <wilee-nilee> kiwicam, Might be a bug I see various hits on this, but have no definitive answer.
[03:58] <wilee-nilee> I have no no definitive answer.
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> kiwicam, Is this a ubuntu-server?
[04:00] <kiwicam> wilee-nilee: Yes, it is.
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> kiwicam, Cool, just checking.
[04:01] <wilee-nilee> kiwicam, I saw a sarge repo in that UF link, do you have any other then the ubuntu repos in your sources.list?
[04:02] <wilee-nilee> If so are they off for a upgrade?
[04:03] <kiwicam> wilee-nilee: I'll give you the sources.list shortly, just rebooting it...
[04:04] <|JZ|> wilee-nilee .. I tried reformating now I am at something that says initramfs
[04:04] <parth_> hello
[04:04] <wilee-nilee> |JZ|, reformatting? Can you refresh my memory?
[04:05] <parth_> yes
[04:05] <|JZ|> I had the black screen with _ flashing
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> |JZ|, How did you reformat?
[04:06] <|JZ|> couldn't get into the thing with shift
[04:06] <|JZ|> I used live cd
[04:06] <|JZ|> and install ubuntu erase and install ubuntu 13.04
[04:06] <|JZ|> it installed rebooted now I am at initramfs
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> |JZ|, So you made a new partition and or reformatted the one there say with the installer or gparted and installed there?
[04:07] <|JZ|> alert /dev/disk/by-uuid/dce longg does not exist
[04:07] <|JZ|> I used the livecd reformated with w.e tool it has
[04:08] <plustax> im having an issue. I have 13.04 and I just downloaded the 13.04 iso and burned it using ubuntu's write to disc at slow speed. I have a trojan on my windows partition. the disc is burned but it wont let me boot to disc.
[04:08] <plustax> i have a windows 8 disc which wont boot either.
[04:08] <kiwicam> wilee-nilee: It looks like I'll have to get back to you later. I can't ssh into it now and the website is down. I'll contact the provider.
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> |JZ|, initramfs is out of my area really, have you checked the hd is still good, the live cd has a smartcheck in disks, and or checked th md5sum on the ISO
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> kiwicam, Cool, I'm probably not your best help is all.
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> matter of fact I'm sure, lol. ;)
[04:10] <kiwicam> wilee-nilee: I've had worse ;) Like myself for instance :)
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> kiwicam, I'm my worst enemy. ;)
[04:11] <martin__> hello
[04:11] <martin__> i have a qwew
[04:11] <holstein> martin__: ask
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> plustax, In regular computers there is a bootfrom menu not in the bios gotten to with a key or key prompts, you might look on the net for yours, mine is a f12 at powering on.
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> plustax, NOt sure if on a fastboot setup this is as easy to reach, or there.
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> plustax, You might call the computer manufacturer as well.
[04:16] <StarOnD> I have libboost1.40 libbost1.49,how can I have one consistent verision and install liboost-all-dev?
[04:17] <kiwicam> wilee-nilee: Had to restart the server twice. My provider had switched migrated me to somewhere else (which I didn't know about) and the retart seems to have done the tirck with updating. Wish me luck on the upgrade.
[04:17] <kiwicam> wilee-nilee: Thanks for you help anyway. Always appreciated
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> kiwicam, I officially wish you good luck and a life of happiness. ;)
[04:18] <kiwicam> wilee-nilee: :) Who could ask for more.
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[04:19] <kiwicam> wilee-nilee: Should the etc/update-manager/release-upgradesfile be empty?
[04:19] <kiwicam> befoe adding "etc/update-manager/release-upgrades" anyway
[04:19] <kiwicam> sorry Prompt=lts.
[04:20] <wilee-nilee> kiwicam, Not sure on that I'm in windows 8 at the moment I can't look at mine in general.
[04:20] <kiwicam> Silly me "    Note: The minumum contents of /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades should be:
[04:20] <kiwicam> [DEFAULT]
[04:20] <kiwicam> Prompt=lts"
[04:20] <FloodBot1> kiwicam: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:23] <cartusia> I am attempting to copy about 2 TB of info into my hard drive. What is it that I can do to prevent from it skipping for example when a file name is too long etc...
[04:23] <holstein> cartusia: i use grsync..
[04:24] <cartusia> I have it in USB external hard drives
[04:24] <holstein> cartusia: ok.. i use grsync on USB external drives
[04:24] <wilee-nilee> +1 grsync
[04:25] <cartusia> kk let me read on that. brb
[04:25] <holstein> !info grsync
[04:26] <energizer1> Hi. I want to know which local port a program is using. I cant find it in netstat. Where should I be looking?
[04:26] <holstein> energizer1: the applicaiont documentation?
[04:26] <holstein> application*
[04:26] <energizer1> its a really old game im running in WINE. no docs
[04:27] <Rosenzweig> So guys I think I narrowed my problem down.
[04:27] <Rosenzweig> The reason why I'm using the VESA driver instead of the OSS driver is because my configuration is screwed up.
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> no, do tell.
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[04:28] <Rosenzweig> How do I fix the driver configuration so taht I can use the radeon OSS driver?
[04:28] <holstein> Rosenzweig: you dont need to "install the free ati driver".. its just in the kernel
[04:28] <holstein> Rosenzweig: if it supports your device, it'll "just work"
[04:28] <Rosenzweig> Well I'm using the VESA driver for some reason.
[04:29] <Rosenzweig> The HD Radeon 4200 is supported.
[04:29] <Rosenzweig> For at least the OSS driver.
[04:29] <holstein> Rosenzweig: did you set up a custom xorg.conf?
[04:29] <Rosenzweig> I don't even have an xorg.conf.
[04:29] <Rosenzweig> I checked.
[04:29] <holstein> Rosenzweig: for me, seeing is believing when it comes to graphics card support
[04:30] <Rosenzweig> I believe I had it working on Debian a few months ago when this same exact problem occured.
[04:30] <holstein> Rosenzweig: you "believe" ?
[04:30] <holstein> Rosenzweig: what problem?
[04:31] <Rosenzweig> holstein, I'm pretty sure that a few months ago I did get it to work on Debian.
[04:31] <Rosenzweig> When this same exact problem occured on Debian.
[04:31] <Rosenzweig> The problem is that FGLRX broke, I tried to purge it, and for some reason the OSS drivers won't boot up.
[04:31] <holstein> Rosenzweig: pretty sure?.. either id did or it didnt..
[04:31] <holstein> Rosenzweig: what "broke" it? a kernel upgrade?
[04:31] <gordan12> does anybody know working 3d driver for sis graphic card?
[04:31] <Rosenzweig> I'm positive, holstein.
[04:31] <holstein> Rosenzweig: why are you not trying the proprietary driver?
[04:32] <Rosenzweig> holstein, my upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10.
[04:32] <holstein> Rosenzweig: you dont sound positive..
[04:32] <Rosenzweig> ...
[04:32] <Rosenzweig> Let me explain.
[04:32] <Rosenzweig> I upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10.
[04:32] <holstein> Rosenzweig: i would either run 12.04 or 13.04 at ths point
[04:32] <Rosenzweig> Unity was broken.
[04:32] <Rosenzweig> So what did I do?
[04:32] <holstein> Rosenzweig: unity? or the graphics card?
[04:32] <Rosenzweig> I checked online and it appears that with my hardware, the fglrx driver will not support X.
[04:32] <holstein> Rosenzweig: unity is not in debian.. what was the issue over there?
[04:32] <Rosenzweig> ...
[04:33] <Rosenzweig> The issue was the same, I had a kernel upgrade and X broke.
[04:33] <holstein> Rosenzweig: what do i suggest? download a 13.04 live CD.. test.. install if all is well
[04:33] <Rosenzweig> Don't have any CD's here.
[04:33] <holstein> Rosenzweig: live USB then
[04:35] <Rosenzweig> USBs won't work with my mobo.
[04:35] <Rosenzweig> Well... not when booting.
[04:35] <holstein> Rosenzweig: what would id suggest? take this as an opporinity to plan for when that hard drive *will* fail.. get the data backed up, and plan for booting media to repair or reinstall the OS
[04:36] <holstein> this will not be a waste of time, since it *is* a matter of time til that is an issue for you.. and after that, you will be able to test 12.04 or 13.04
[04:37] <holstein> Rosenzweig: if you are asking 'what happened?', you have a lot of variables going on with an upgraded system.. could have had PPA's, or who knows what
[04:42] <jesusemelendezm> hey there
[04:42] <jesusemelendezm> anybody working with ubuntu server here/
[04:42] <jesusemelendezm> ?
[04:42] <holstein> jesusemelendezm: yes
[04:42] <jesusemelendezm> holstein how do you use it ?
[04:42] <jesusemelendezm> for which services?
[04:43] <holstein> jesusemelendezm: depends on the situation
[04:49] <rudi> thank's
[04:57] <excray> Trying to install wubi in windows 7. Getting error - No such file or directory while opening C:\ubuntu\disks\root.disk
[04:57] <excray> can anyone help?
[04:57] <holstein> excray: you are trying to install ubuntu.. using wubi.. from windows7
[04:57] <excray> yes
[04:57] <holstein> excray: when do you get that error
[04:57] <excray> 12.04
[04:58] <excray> As soon as I start it after selecting the installation options
[04:58] <excray> wubi.exe --dimagepath=<iso path>
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> does that file exist?
[04:58] <excray> root.disk? no
[04:59] <holstein> excray: what would i suggest? doing a dual boot, or virtualbox installation.. wubi is notoriously problematic for folks.. if not, download the iso you want to use, and put it in the same directory with the wubi.exe
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> so the wubi installer is trying to make it and failing it seems.
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> wubi is best not used. ;)
[04:59] <holstein> might be the user doesnt have permission or whatever... if the windows user is not an "admin" or whatever
[05:00] <excray> oh alright
[05:01] <latemus> hulo evry 1
[05:02] <reisio> hulo
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> hulu whoop
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> hulu.com ? ;)
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> hulu hoop loudly
[05:05] <osubuntu> ubuntu!
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[05:05] <osubuntu> iubuntu(?)
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> osubuntu, Whatcha need?
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> i need to figure out how to turn off the 'auto open a directory when you mouse over it while dragging files' in nautilus.
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> it opens way way to quickly.. and really making it a pain for me to sort these 10000+ video files. and photos from vacation
[05:08] <ss_haze> hello
[05:08] <ss_haze> good morning *
[05:08] <ss_haze> can I delete 1 grub entry by removing entry from this /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[05:08] <osubuntu> wilee-nilee, I need yUbuntu
[05:08] <ss_haze> I have win 7 on sda3, where it isn't really
[05:08] <HypnotiX> Hello, how do i get rid of the keyring password when ubuntu first loads
[05:09] <ss_haze> HypnotiX: encryption in 13.04?
[05:09] <HypnotiX> i think so
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, Have you looked in the deconf-editor
[05:09] <osubuntu> btw is there a way to instantly update from 12.04 to 13.04 without 12.10?
[05:10] <wilee-nilee> dconf
[05:10] <wilee-nilee> osubuntu, not that I know of.
[05:10] <wilee-nilee> osubuntu, YOu have 5 yeras support with 12.04
[05:11] <osubuntu> wilee-nile, actually yUbuntu never exist
[05:11] <osubuntu> wilee-nile, and that's why I'm asking about upgrading
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> osubuntu, No really.
[05:12] <ss_haze> osubuntu:  you have to add repos of 13.04 to source list
[05:12] <wilee-nilee> ss_haze, NO that is wrong
[05:12] <ss_haze> replace
[05:12] <wilee-nilee> very bad advice
[05:12] <ss_haze> that is wrong, but that is the way to do it
[05:12] <chiques> Google is my friend
[05:12] <ss_haze> it worked 1 time for me
[05:13] <wilee-nilee> ss_haze, You are the king of just bad options, you should be banned.
[05:13] <ss_haze> what can he break there?
[05:14] <ss_haze> I did it once, and it worked, and 13.04 was very usable, but 12.04 is a lot better to use in every day use.
[05:15] <ss_haze> I would suggest downloading disk and installing new version then.
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, You want to run without a user password?
[05:17] <peterrooney> 90% of solutions found by google are wrong.
[05:18] <Carraway> is there a better quick, fast http server than mongoose?
[05:18] <osubuntu> how about 10%?
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> !ot | Peterman Carraway
[05:20] <ss_haze> peterrooney: for ubuntu, most solutions in google work really well, unless user touches something what he isn't supposed to
[05:23] <postmodern> ubuntu has a libudis86-dev package, correct?
[05:23] <reisio> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[05:23] <postmodern> apt-cache search udis isn't showing anything in this VM
[05:25] <reisio> there are some 3rd party builds
[05:30] <pat> lol
[05:41] <Mace268> is there a guide on enabling multiple desktops in unity?
[05:41] <osubuntu> Mace268, multiple X servers or workspaces?
[05:41] <Mace268> workspaces
[05:42] <osubuntu> Mace268, Switch workspaces in the bar on the right
[05:43] <Mace268> all i have is the top and left bars
[05:43] <Mace268> are*
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> Mace268, unity-tweak http://askubuntu.com/questions/34572/how-can-i-reduce-or-increase-the-number-of-workspaces-in-unity
[05:44] <Mace268> thank you
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> Mace268, Left panel has a icon for going to any desktop workspaces, no problem.
[05:46] <excray> Can i install ubuntu from a portable HDD. It is NTFS. Should it be formatted to FAT32?
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> excray, Maybe, however not the easiest way, and probably wont work, this a HD with any valuable data?
[05:48] <Mace268> that's perfect showing workspaces with hot corners :D
[05:51] <excray> @wilee-nilee - Yes, it is a backup disk
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> best would be to use a usb flash drive excray  i think 4 gb is big enough.
[05:53] <cyrano_> Has anyone run in to having a black screen and blinking underscore when trying to load proprietary Nvidia drivers?
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> cyrano_:  its a common issue with video card/drivers sadly
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | cyrano_
[05:59] <icelite> Hi
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> Hello.
[06:05] <dubey> Hello
[06:05] <dubey> I am using apache2 on Ubuntu 10.04 server and want to rotate my site log. my /etc/logrotate.d/apache2 file at http://pastebin.com/hwXNUdWu
[06:14] <hoho`> hello, is there a way to print to a file using lpr without cups-pdf?
[06:14] <aditya> Hey guys ! I am using a Vostro 5460.. I am using the Ubuntu pre-loaded edition.. However, I am facing an issue of low audio output.. which does not plague Windows users ATM.. Please help..!
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> low audio is a common issue with some chipsets. I suggest checking the forums and askubuntu.com for others with similer issue for that make pc. and the audio chipset
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> aditya:  ive never seen a 'quick fix' mentioned in here.  so dont know what anyone has done to fix the issue
[06:18] <DarwinSurvivor> aditya: also checked that *all* audio channels (Master, PCM, etc) are set to reasonable levels
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> Audio in linux/ubuntu still needs some work. :)  of course its also a bit of a disaster in windows.. but theres audio 'things' i want to do in ubuntu that i just cant figure out.
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> right now - i got 'cheese' captureing video and audio from a USB Video Capture dongle.. it works well. buti cant hear the audio of the incomming capture stream as im captureing it..
[06:25] <aditya> Dr_Willis, DarwinSurvivor Hey! Thanks guys..! So, there's no immediate fix as such..? Right now, I have everything maxed out as I can see in alsa..
[06:26] <aditya> Also, I have tried discussing this at ubuntuforums as well but got no answer..
[06:26] <akashj87> dev,#gentoo-java,#gentoo-netmon,#gentoo-security,#gentoo-vim,#armitage,#openshift,#r_netsec,#windows,#bind,#aircrack-
[06:26] <akashj87> ng,#cygwin,#offsec,#cuckoosandbox,#gdb,#fedora,#openssh,#kali-linux,#vbox,#vbox-
[06:26] <akashj87> dev,#macports,#ruby,#web,#fabric,##asm,##networking,#malware.lu,#pauldotcom,##security,#debian,#gcc,#kvm,##php,#pwning,#me
[06:26] <akashj87> tasploit,#bash,##kernel,#grub,#nginx,#vsftpd,##linux
[06:26] <FloodBot1> akashj87: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:27] <akashj87> something weird ..i am not pasting anything ..i have a big join list that i am trying to join using /join
[06:29] <magdur> guys my computer had had ubuntu 12.04 later i installed second os windows 8 but windows 8 deleted my grub screen and i cant see boot screen for ubuntu 12.04 how can i start with ubuntu ?
[06:33] <cjopcjop> is it possible to create a multi-domain subdomain, eg. chat.example.uni.cx ?
[06:33] <cjopcjop> If so, is there a unique way I need to go about it?
[06:35] <magdur> guys my computer had ubuntu 12.04 later i installed second os windows 8 but windows 8 deleted my grub screen and i cant see boot screen for ubuntu 12.04 how can i start with ubuntu ?
[06:38] <xmetal> there are many ways you can do this, I'd advice using a live cd/usb (example there is one called "Super Grub" that was created for just such an occasion)
[06:38] <ghostnik11> Dr_Willis: hey bro, can i still get help with the usb hdd not mounting
[06:38] <xmetal> to get back into Linux and then redo grub
[06:39] <DarwinSurvivor> magdur: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_the_LiveCD_terminal
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> ghostnik11:  summarize what you have done, and what you are doing..
[06:42] <ghostnik11> Dr_Willis: last time you told me to use dd command to zero it then use fdisk to create partition then it was created but when i then went to gparted to format it since we had it mounted gparted couldn't see it
[06:43] <ghostnik11> Dr_Willis: right now i wanted to change the drive location as it had that weird wnnxxxxxx location
[06:43] <Mace268> how do i assign the software center to apt:// urls?
[06:44] <reisio> terrible idea
[06:45] <Mace268> ok what should open them then?
[06:45] <reisio> you really want your browser to be able to install things?
[06:45] <xmetal> i need to learn the bot's commands so i dont have to hunt for links, while helping people
[06:45] <xmetal> lol
[06:45] <reisio> !links
[06:46] <reisio> okay then...
[06:46] <Mace268> not necessarily just browsing through apps.ubuntu.com and noticed it
[06:46] <reisio> it's https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptURL anyways
[06:46] <reisio> terrible idea
[06:46] <tones> why not a good idea?
[06:46] <sunsword> who wants to help the noob?
[06:47] <xmetal> wow i was lagging
[06:47] <Rapid2214> reiso, why is it a bad idea?
[06:47] <sunsword> need to figure out how to get my laptop video card supported so I can move beyond 1200x800...
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> ghostnik11:  you can set up fstab to mount it to whatever directory you want. if you want to rely on the auto mounting to give it a place use the 'tune2fs' command to set a lable on the filesystem.
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> so do you want to auto mount it on demand.. or mount it at boot time (edit fstab)
[06:50] <Mace268> I'll just leave apturl alone lol, I guess it could be a security hole
[06:50] <ghostnik11> Dr_Willis: which one is best? automout means that when i plug it in it pops up
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> if its alwyas plugged in - use fstab.
[06:51] <ghostnik11> Dr_Willis: well right now its plugged in to my desktop but i will need it primarily for my laptop
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> its slightly 'weird' to have ext2/3/4 auto mounting on demand by the users.   thats normally used for removeable flash drives which are ntfs/vfat/fat32
[06:53] <ghostnik11> Dr_Willis: okay then what type you i make it?
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> totally depends on what OS's are accessing it. and what job you are doing with it.
[06:54] <DarwinSurvivor> Dr_Willis: not very uncommon if used for backups and stuff where permissions matter
[06:55] <ghostnik11> Dr_Willis: it will be primarily accessed by both windows and linux as I will need to put files on it that come from windows laptops while my laptop is ubuntu 13.04
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> then use windows to format/partion and set the label as you need.
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> NTFS should work fine for you.
[06:57] <ghostnik11> Dr_Willis: i don't have a windows laptop, when i get to school i will get files and power point slides from others who have different computers
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> and their windows pcs will only be able to read/write to ntfs, or fat32, do those are your 2 options
[06:59] <ikillcypher> Dr_Willis, do you know anything about the ubuntu touch:?
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> ikillcypher:  it has its own channel. and i dont use touch. im not even testing it out on my Nexus-7 tablet yet.
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> !touch
[07:01] <ikillcypher> there isnt a developer around at any point of time :(
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> i dont really 'develop' either. ;P
[07:01] <ghostnik11> Dr_Willis: so i have to format it to fat 32 or ntfs. quick question because i was told by someone that on campus someone got a virus on their ubuntu machine from sharing if i make the hard drive fat32 will it prevent viruses from going on it?
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> ghostnik11:  i doubt very much they got any 'linux' virus from a fat32/ntfs drive.
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> a windows machine with a virus could do somthing to the drive.. but i doubt if  that 'windows virus' would do anything to a linux box.
[07:05] <ghostnik11> Dr_Willis: well so i can use tunefs to format and change label?
[07:06] <ari_tama> hola
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> if its ntfs/vfat theres some other cli tools, i forget the names. or next time you pop it in a windows machine just rename disk/label from windows.
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> Hellos
[07:07] <reisio> hello.
[07:07] <ghostnik11> Dr_Willis: i will try that when i come in contact with windows but i rather the cli tools
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> theres some 'dosfs tools' in the repos.. not used them in ages.
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> gparted works for me to relabel mine - if the proper dos tools are installed also.
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> !info dosfstools
[07:11] <ghostnik11> Dr_Willis: i already have it installed by default
[07:13] <user82> hi. my wireless lan is constantly breaking down in 13.04. I tested two networks and two usb wifi dongles. is this a known problem/is there a solution for that. strangely the linux mint i had two months ago did the same thing
[07:13] <user82> usually it runs for a while and then disconnects/reconnects/...
[07:17] <dreamon_> Having a wifi connection. want to make a hotspot same as in handys possible. how can I do wie networkmanager?
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> !ics
[07:18] <ghostnik11> Dr_Willis: okay i plugged in and out the hard drive then ran fdisk and got nothing then did lsusb and got this:
[07:18] <ghostnik11> Dr_Willis: Bus 001 Device 005: ID 152d:2329 JMicron Technology Corp. / JMicron USA Technology Corp. JM20329 SATA Bridge
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> you mean you ran 'sudo fdisk -l' ? or are you just trying random commands again?
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> the tail end of 'dmesg' should also mention the device if its seen/detected
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> i have his screen and mouse pointer distortion again on 13.04 clean install on driver radeon and older ati X800 grafix card: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=96jp7b&s=5 , any sugestions?
[07:20] <ghostnik11> Dr_Willis: no i did sudo fdisk -l because i read up on dosfstools
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> oh and its only first boot, all boots after distortion dissapears
[07:20] <ghostnik11> Dr_Willis: i should try the dmsg tail command
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> it just spits out info.. so why not.. its not going to DO anything other then print out diag. messages.
[07:22] <dreamon_> ubottu, Is it possible to do with only one wifi adapter?
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> i dont think all the differnt wifi drivers/adaptors support the hotspot/ad-hoc type stuff but some do.
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> I just got a router. ;) saves hassles
[07:23] <ghostnik11> Dr_Willis: here is the dmesg | tail command readout i got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5972664/
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> ghostnik11:  and your drive is 'sdb' ?
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> looks like its still a confused drive in one way or another.
[07:26] <Dr_Willis>  sdb: unknown partition table
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> [ 4566.810611] sd 5:0:0:0: >[sdb] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16).
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> how big is this 'very big device' ?
[07:27] <ghostnik11> Dr_Willis: yeah, weird it is 500gb
[07:27] <ghostnik11> Dr_Willis: the type of files that was on the drive was mostly mp3s and other music files
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> the type of files on the drive dont matter.. if the hd is failing.. its failing
[07:28] <ghostnik11> Dr_Willis: but can't we make it not fail
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> hds fail.. eventually they ALL fail
[07:28] <ghostnik11> Dr_Willis: yeah but i thought i could like format it and then use it as just storage from scratch
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> you had it working yesterday.. its not working today (correct?) commands that worked yesterday, are not working today..
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> if your car blows the engine.. putting a new coat of paint wont fix it...
[07:29] <ghostnik11> Dr_Willis: so just throw it in the garbage
[07:29]  * Dr_Willis has a whole box of dead hard drives.
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> The HD makers often have special tools for windows to try to 'kick the drive in the head' depending on the brand.
[07:30] <ghostnik11> Dr_Willis: WD (western digital)
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> go to the WD homepage and see.. it might even be under warrenty still
[07:31] <ghostnik11> Dr_Willis: it has been owned for a while unless they have lifetime warrenty
[07:32] <Mace268> some have 5 years
[07:32] <Mace268> but those could have been made over 5 years ago, i can't recall
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> Ive definatly had drives replaced at 4 yrs old. ;)
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> gotta love it whenthey replace a 1TB hd with a 2 TB...
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> I think those were Segate. ;)
[07:38] <Mace268> I like seagate's service. never had a problem yet.
[07:39] <HypnotiX> I just make an orange selection box on my screen, how do i get rid of it? :)
[07:39] <HypnotiX> made even
[07:39] <Mace268> it's not supposed to stay
[07:39] <wilee-nilee> Some seagates have cooling issues I have a 2 tb external that shows a hot run in disks smart info, not really possible, however I elevated it and it does run cooler
[07:40] <HypnotiX> but it does just stay on the screen
[07:40] <Mace268> make a bigger selection around it and it might go away, long shop though
[07:40] <Mace268> shot*
[07:40] <HypnotiX> nop
[07:41] <HypnotiX> its not the first time it happens either
[07:41] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, a screen shot in imagebin might be nice.
[07:41] <Mace268> i'm no expert by any means but it sounds like a video driver issue
[07:44] <JViz> pkg-config appears to be missing atleast one library i have installed that i need
[07:44] <HypnotiX> http://i.imgur.com/KjDaOdG.jpg
[07:44] <JViz> libpcap-dev is installed, but pkg-config --list-all doesn't list it
[07:45] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, You have a lot opened there, you check the ram and cpu usage?
[07:46] <HypnotiX> those are just small programs
[07:46] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, Never the less have you checked?
[07:46] <HypnotiX> 6gb ram free 10% cpu usage
[07:48] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, Cool, thanks, not sure I have had that happen occasionally not very often though, I think there is a unity restart command not sure of it though I ues the gnome-shell.
[07:49] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, What release is that?
[07:50] <HypnotiX> 13.04
[07:50] <HypnotiX> ok i ran unity twice in the console and it fixed the problem
[07:51] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, excellent, I saw that as a restart command in earlier releases @ askubuntu.com
[07:52] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, Here is a unity and compiz reset if needed for 13.04 too. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04
[07:53] <HypnotiX> thanx
[07:54] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[08:06] <JViz> i figured out my problem, libpcap-dev doesn't come with a pc file
[08:09] <xmetal> drats ... ordered amazon.com brand dvds and the brand i like just went on sale
[08:09] <xmetal> #-o
[08:10] <wilee-nilee> xmetal, where?
[08:11]  * wilee-nilee pops a pepper "mint" mmmm whole foods
[08:11] <xmetal> i see office depot has TDK (not counting Dying burners or rare power outages, i never had any coasters with tons and tons of that brand)
[08:12] <xmetal> oh well
[08:12] <xmetal> :)
[08:17] <ichuot> hello
[08:17] <ichuot> everybody here?
[08:20] <spacecase> can a linux-image-extra deb be found for the mainline daily kernels?
[08:21] <xmetal> hmm
[08:21] <wilee-nilee> so what is the specifications on dvd+rw 4x or 2x what does the numbered x mean this a limitation of burning speed?
[08:21] <xmetal> dont need two hundered, but while i am there i may pick up a pack
[08:22] <xmetal> i think thats is it... based on the burner of course, but in theory, that should be the burning speed
[08:22] <xmetal> (max)
[08:22] <xmetal> TDK's have just been so realible for me in the past, if i am up by OD, i may get a pack anyway
[08:22] <wilee-nilee> ah found this at amazon, http://www.amazon.com/Memorex-32025541-DVD-Pack-Spindle/dp/B0000A98AC/ref=sr_1_12?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1376209154&sr=1-12&keywords=dvd%2Brw+discs+blank
[08:23] <wilee-nilee> seems best price
[08:23] <xmetal> i am sure the amazon one's will be good and work with my DVR (that uses DVDS) and PC burners
[08:23] <wilee-nilee> with prime delivery
[08:26] <suore> Hello, how to install ati drivers at Ubuntu 13.10?. I have ATI Radeon 9800.
[08:27] <wilee-nilee> !13.10 | suore
[08:28] <xmetal> lol clicked that url and hexchat crashed
[08:28] <xmetal> never saw that before
[08:28] <GODDOG> suore: do you search the drivers on the official website
[08:28] <suore> aww , sorry 13.04 xD
[08:28] <suore> i mistake with 12.10
[08:28] <suore> 13. 04
[08:28] <suore> yes
[08:28] <wilee-nilee> cool
[08:29] <suore> newest are Calyst 9.3
[08:29] <suore> but cannot install
[08:29] <suore> is write somrethink about that this distribution is not supported
[08:29] <xmetal> got a pack of +R's ... amazon's brand for 26.08
[08:29] <suore> last i use 9.04
[08:29] <suore> i move to 13.04
[08:30] <xmetal> (-R's were 24.99 + shipping ... if i got it to $25.00, no shipping :P .. .one cent short)
[08:30] <suore> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx oficial drivers
[08:30] <GODDOG> suore: it's so bad
[08:30] <suore> i know
[08:30] <suore> so i ask maybe for unoficial drivers, meybe it exist
[08:31] <suore> i think ATI stop supporting Linux drivers for 9XXX and less
[08:32] <GODDOG> suore: sorry There is nothing I can do
[08:32] <suore> nah.... so i back 9.04 :(
[08:37] <xmetal> hmm off to read some more Robert Ludlum in a few minutes
[08:39] <theos> hey! i bought a lenovo laser mouse. dmesg says "[1293404.012087] ehci-pci 0000:00:1d.7: setting latency timer to 64" but the mouse is not working. no movement or scrolling. no light in the mouse even. please help
[08:43] <theos> looks like autosuspend issue
[08:48] <lotuspsychje>  i have his screen and mouse pointer distortion every first boot on 13.04 clean install on driver radeon and older ati X800 grafix card: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=96jp7b&s=5 , any sugestions?
[08:48] <xmetal> http://www.amazon.com/TDK-4-7GB-DVD-R-100-Pack-Spindle/dp/B0009RKL5S/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1376210090&sr=1-1&keywords=TDK+DVD = 24.99 + tax at Office depot this week
[08:48] <xmetal> well i am going to get going
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> !ops | xmetal
[08:49] <xmetal> eh?
[08:50] <theos> re: hey! i bought a lenovo laser mouse. dmesg says "[1293404.012087] ehci-pci 0000:00:1d.7: setting latency timer to 64" but the mouse is not working. no movement or scrolling. no light in the mouse even. please help
[08:50] <xmetal> let me guess, i have been reported
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> xmetal: this is an ubuntu channel, not spamming new hardware
[08:51] <xmetal> lol one post
[08:51] <dongt630> good day. I need help with my ubuntu settings. changing resolution to 1360x768 (monitor's native res is 1366x768) causes the screen to bloat and now my entire left menubar is offscreen
[08:53] <EricJ> dongt630: wouldn't you want 1366x768 instead if that's the screens native resolution?
[08:53] <dongt630> oddly enough, it only gives me the option of 1360x768
[08:54] <xmetal> oh whatever, i dont care
[08:54] <mastroLive> Hi, I'm dealing with EFI boot for the first time... My system have 2 disk, the first is an SSD used for RST by Windows8 (pre-installed + don't let me create recovery disks) the second one is a standard disk with GPT partition table and many partitions (I already managed to install the system but it doesn't give me the options for Linux) -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/5972831/
[08:54] <OerHeks> dongt630, have you tried to reset the monitor? this might help.
[08:54] <mastroLive> I already disabled secure booting and fast start from windows
[08:55] <e66> hello all. I am in a very bad situation
[08:55] <EricJ> dongt630: if you feel like getting your hands dirty, check out the documentation for xorg.conf -- most resolution-related stuff can be configured there, albeit not easily.
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> anything in my xorg log that could cause this scren distortion? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5972859/
[08:55] <dongt630> Ive tried: Resetting the monitor, switching to DVI-VGA, installing nvidia 304 - 310
[08:55] <gordonjcp> dongt630: silly question, but when you set 1360 width and it looks weird, did you hit the auto-adjust button?
[08:56] <dongt630> yes ive also tried the auto-adjust
[08:56] <e66> I am from a corrupted live cd. I can not install anything from it. My Computer does not have linux. And windows is corrupted. I have a 250MB USB stick only. No Burner. How can I install ubuntu?
[08:57] <Joal> im having problem connecting to openvpn. SecurityKiss. I did everything in tutorial, connected, but no connection in browser. any clue?
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> e66:  debootstrap is one way. or put the HD in a differnt pc install to it.. then move it back
[08:57] <xmetal> or download the livecd on another pc and reburn
[08:58] <dongt630> EricJ: what part of xorg.conf should i be looking at?
[08:58] <xmetal> see if you can install that one
[08:58] <EricJ> e66: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> e66:  of course if you had a network ands a 2nd pc.. you could setup a netboot install setup.
[08:58] <sina2_> suggest me a software to redirect whole my TCP traffic through a https proxy with User&Pass. I need to redirect my DNS request through proxy too??
[08:58] <e66> Dr_Willis: there is no other pc.
[08:58] <lacy20> hello
[08:58] <lacy20> anyone here
[08:59] <xmetal> no we are all gone
[08:59] <Joal> wouldnt it be possible to partition the hard-drive, and install linux from one to another?
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> e66:  so how are you on teh internet now? the semi-broken pc?  You could partion the hd. and setup grub on the hd to boot an iso file you had downloaded to the HD. ;)
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> Joal:  grub2 booting a iso file - is one way to do that. If you got the skills. ;)
[08:59] <xmetal> good point
[09:00] <xmetal> lol i haven't messed with that lately .. keep forgetting
[09:00] <dongt630> what part of xorg.conf should i be looking at to fix this problem?
[09:00] <xmetal> (grub2 to boot iso)
[09:00] <e66> I have internet access. is it possible to install from net? any way to utilize 250mb USB?
[09:00] <xmetal> 250MB?
[09:00] <xmetal> ack
[09:01] <e66> thats the problem
[09:01] <xmetal> Tiny Linux that small?
[09:01] <xmetal> hmm
[09:01] <xmetal> not even sure what Tiny is based on
[09:01] <xmetal> i cant even remember
[09:01] <xmetal> ir is it PuppyLinux
[09:01] <xmetal> or *
[09:01] <dongt630> damnsmalllinux
[09:01] <Joal> Dr_Willis: yep, One needs the skills ;)
[09:01] <e66> Is itpossible to install ubuntu minimul via this usb?
[09:01] <xmetal> thats one, dong
[09:01] <kubblai> sina2_: DNA lookups are not handled by a https proxy however you can change your dns servers in network manager
[09:01] <bekks> e66: You should buy a reasonably sized USB thumb drive. There are about a very few dollars for 16GB.
[09:01] <Bodsda> DSL is about 50mb
[09:01] <xmetal> (thank god i didn't forget the comma)
[09:01] <kubblai> Dns *
[09:01] <xmetal> :)
[09:02] <Joal> so, no idea about my vpn-connection?
[09:02] <e66> bekks: Right now I am at parents place. the place is a bit remote.
[09:02] <trijntje> !hi | lacy20
[09:02] <Guest87222> I am a beginner in Open source contribution, trying to fix a small bug in ubuntu, how can I get source code from launchpad? Can you please help me
[09:03] <Bodsda> Guest87222: be more specific - a link would be useful
[09:03] <Guest87222> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash-completion/+bug/887525
[09:04] <lacy20_> hell
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> i have his screen and mouse pointer distortion every first boot on 13.04 clean install on driver radeon and older ati X800 grafix card: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=96jp7b&s=5 , any sugestions?
[09:04] <lacy20_> hello
[09:04] <lacy20_> hi
[09:04] <trijntje> hi lacy20_, whats up?
[09:04] <lacy20_> test chat
[09:04] <Bodsda> Guest87222: so the bug is either in dpkg or bash -- sudo apt-get source dpkg     will get you the dpkg source for example
[09:05] <trijntje> Guest87222: if you click on 'code' at the top of that page, you can get the development release and download it using bzr
[09:05] <Guest87222> trijntje: I was trying to do that
[09:09] <xmetal> hmm should have put DSL on my old laptop before it died
[09:10] <Guest87222> trijntje: Should I go for the last modified development release?
[09:11] <Joal> maybe its my firewall. do I need to open any port out or in if im using openvpn?
[09:11] <trijntje> Guest87222: I guess so, then it wil be fixed in the comming version(s) of ubuntu
 OK. How can I check that DNS is OK, I mean it can pass the firewall ?
[09:13] <Guest87222> trijntje: Ok
[09:13] <SunTsu> Joal: depends on your setup and how tight your firewall is configured
[09:14] <sailor923> hello I need information. for radeon hd 4250 integrated chip I had horrible performance with oss drivers on all desktop environments. i tried the catalyst but unity 3d disappeared and fell back to unity 2d and moving windows became slow etc so I uninstalled ubuntu. can someone tell me if catalyst for this chip will give me same performance as on windows, if yes, i'll install ubuntu and try again, or should i install win?
[09:14] <sailor923> i need my snes games to run well
[09:14] <SunTsu> Joal: if it allows outbound connections to port 1194 (tcp or udp, depends) it should be OK, if it doesn't you will have to configure it the way it does
[09:16] <Joal> SunTsu: well, im connecting to specified vpns where each has their own port, for example one has 123.
[09:17] <Joal> SunTsu: I specify those when I add vpn-connections in network-manager
[09:20] <Joal> so, do I need to specifically allow 123 in or out in firewall?
[09:20] <strokonof> hey
[09:21] <sailor923> if anyone knows, please tell me
[09:21] <strokonof> i need some helps from someone living in other country than mine (france)
[09:22] <Joal> 1600 ppl, like a small town in here :P Someone must know the answer
[09:23] <Joal> strokonof, whats ur issue?
[09:23] <theos> hey! i bought a lenovo laser mouse. dmesg says "[1293404.012087] ehci-pci 0000:00:1d.7: setting latency timer to 64" but the mouse is not working. no movement or scrolling. no light in the mouse even. please help
[09:24] <strokonof> it's not about ubuntu, i just wanna know if this website (www.usniff.com) doesn't work for everyone, or if it is just blocked in my country
[09:24] <OerHeks> theos, what is the 8 digit hex code of your mouse? open terminal: lsusb
[09:25] <Guest87222> trijntje: what is Launchpad ID?
[09:26] <ptuladhar> theos: did you tried 'lspci' command.
[09:27] <ptuladhar> theos: did you see your mouse controller.
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> howto grep only graphics issues in /var/log/syslog.1 ?
[09:27] <Joal> strokonoff: u could use a vpn to find out ;)
[09:27] <Guest87222> trijntje: I don't know more about bazaar, Can you please explain me about downloading source code using bazaar?
[09:28] <strokonof> Joal, i know, but i don't have one, and it's never free ^^
[09:28] <Joal> strokonof: securitykiss is free
[09:29] <kelvinella> hello, how to type special char like "(" in shell script?
[09:29] <Joal> atleast for a limited amount of mb-transfers
[09:29] <kelvinella> cp file\(1\).txt file.txt ??
[09:30] <ptuladhar> kelvinella: escape it using '\'.
[09:30] <kelvinella> in .sh file
[09:30] <ptuladhar> yes, in .sh file.
[09:30] <kelvinella> i have this line: pdftk LPK20.pdf cat 20-22 output 812.1C_\(Optional\)Proof.of.Pythagoras.Theorem_ANS.pdf in the sh file
[09:30] <kelvinella> and it still give me error
[09:30] <Guest87222> Can anyone please tell me, how to download source code  from launchpad using bazaar?
[09:31] <kelvinella> line 112: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[09:31] <ptuladhar> you can put the 802.1c... inside double quote and remove '\'.
[09:31] <kelvinella> can someone help me?
[09:31] <ptuladhar> pdftk LPK20.pdf cat 20-22 output "812.1C_(Optional)Proof.of.Pythagoras.Theorem_ANS.pdf"
[09:31] <kelvinella> ptuladhar, the whole thing in " "?
[09:32] <kelvinella> hold on
[09:32] <ptuladhar> yes.
[09:33] <theos> OerHeks lsusb doesnt detect it. ptuladhar what to see in lspci? the mouse works fine on ubuntu 13.04 live usb boot
[09:33] <ptuladhar> Which OS and Kernel your using.
[09:34] <theos> ubuntu 13.04
[09:35] <ptuladhar> in lspci did you see USB controller.
[09:35] <kelvinella> ptuladhar, thx
[09:35] <theos> 00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
[09:36] <ptuladhar> kelvinella: np
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> theos: you have usb mouse enabled in BIOS?
[09:37] <theos> lotuspsychje no idea. i will have to reboot
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> theos:doublecheck for sure
[09:38] <strokonof> thank you Joal, a great website you just gave me !
[09:38] <Joal> np strokonof :)
[09:43] <theos> is there a way to save session in gnome 3?
[09:44] <theos> i dont want to open everything again on reboot :S
[09:44] <Joal> aarh! why cant I add new rules to firewall?
[09:47] <SunTsu> Joal: Nobody knows the answer because we don't know your firewall setup - as I said
[09:50] <Joal> SunTsu: I dont have a very special firewall setup, just regular.
[09:59] <RituS> Hey I am very new to bug fixing in ubuntu! Couldsomeboody help me report a bug in launchpad?
[10:02] <kikyy> hi
[10:02] <RituS> Hey I am very new to bug fixing in ubuntu! COuld somebody help me report a bug in launchpad?
[10:07] <Guest87222> Is it necessary to have SSH key in launchpad?
[10:08] <snufft> hey guys
[10:09] <snufft> i'm having some trouble with eyefinity on a 7970 in ubuntu 13.04. as a desktop, it seems to work "ok" (there's bgs with running things in full screen on a single monitor), but playing Serious Sam 3 BFE through steam, it will only use the centre monitor.
[10:10] <snufft> all the guides i've seen have said to create a monitor group, but there's no option for that when viewing catalyst through gksudo amdcccle
[10:10] <kikyy> hey guys
[10:10] <snufft> i also can't find anything for bezel correction
[10:13] <A1Recon> If a bluetooth headset has HSP and HFP profiles, but no A2DP profile...does this mean that I can't listen to music on it?
[10:19] <wilee-nilee> RituS, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
 thank you!
[10:22] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[10:22] <ItsMeLenny> ppm2pcx no longer exists?
[10:22] <wilee-nilee> !info ppm2pcx
[10:22] <ItsMeLenny> i really need something to export or convert to pcx because gimp doesnt work properly
[10:23] <ItsMeLenny> ohhh its ppmtopcx, sorry my mistake
[10:24] <wilee-nilee> !info ppmtopcx
[10:25] <dgx> Hey all. How can I acomplish this: i want to be logged in as root and always have all permissions and priviliges? Now when I log in, i can edit files in /var/www for example
[10:26] <bekks> dgx: Hopefully, you cant.
[10:26] <bekks> !sudo | dgx
[10:27] <dgx> bekks: Currently im using gksudo nautilus to do so.
[10:27] <bekks> dgx: Thats the way to do it.
[10:27] <dgx> So I guess its intended that way?
[10:27] <bekks> And using nautilus as root permanently - might mess up your permissions.
[10:27] <ItsMeLenny> damnit it put the colours in the wrong order, im so close though, editing apogee dos games is difficult
[10:27] <dgx> bekks: I see. Another question: apache currently gives me 403 forbidden, even when lookin at html pages?
[10:28] <bekks> dgx: Then your already messed up the permissions by using nautilus as root.
[10:28] <bekks> dgx: Look at the apache log to see the exact and full error message.
[10:29] <Flannel> dgx: To allow yourself to edit files in /var/www without sudo, you'll want to do is add yourself to the www-data/apache group (depending on your Ubuntu version), and then make sure those files are writable by group, not just user.
[10:30] <bekks> Writable by group might mess up permissions too, since there are applications out there that a) do not need group write access and b) do not allow it - like configuration files.
[10:30] <bekks> Its a very bad idea to give write access to a regular user.
[10:30] <Flannel> bekks: Nothing in /var/www has those conditions.
[10:30] <dgx> Hmm, coult it be that I've copied the dir from different partition with gksudo ?
[10:31] <bekks> Flannel: Then you never dealt with configuration files for phpmyadmin, etc.
[10:31] <Flannel> bekks: Those configuration files should not be in browsable web directories, they should be elsewhere in the filesystem.
[10:31] <dgx>  Those permissions are so messed-up -_-
[10:32] <bekks> Flannel: "should" and "are" ...
[10:32] <dgx> And my phpmyadmin works correctly
[10:32] <bekks> dgx: Then fix the permissions.
[10:32] <ItsMeLenny> i must have an old ppmtopcx
[10:33] <ItsMeLenny> might have to hex edit
[10:33] <bekks> ItsMeLenny: To do what?
[10:33] <ItsMeLenny> bekks, so i can specify the colour order
[10:33] <ItsMeLenny> probably using "-stdpalette " would fix it but its not recognised command
[10:34] <Flannel> bekks: phpmyadmin must be up there with ebox in security considerations.
[10:34] <henning3> Hi. I'm trying to get my pc to connect to multible fullHD screens, but get an error that the virtual desktop is only 2048x2048, witch is not enough for two fullHD monitors ;-) Anyone that can point me in the direction of changing that setting? Google hasn't been friend so far :-(
[10:34] <bekks> ItsMeLenny: Then you better write a patch to the source code and recompile your own version.
[10:34] <ItsMeLenny> bekks, the version here states them http://linux.die.net/man/1/ppmtopcx
[10:35] <ItsMeLenny> unrecognized option `-stdpalette'
[10:35] <bekks> ItsMeLenny: So that man page does not match your ppmtopcx version.
[10:35] <ItsMeLenny> yeah, im going to cheat and just put a line of dots in the order in my image, that should fix it
[10:38] <ItsMeLenny> damn it, didnt fix it :P
[10:39] <tk_> hi
[10:39] <tk_> i have a problem:
[10:39] <cfhowlett> tk_, greetings
[10:39] <tk_> sudo apt-get update produces the error:
[10:40] <tk_> wait, I solved it ;)
[10:43] <scathen^C> hey all trying to setup sendmail for the first time. i can successfully send emails from console, but have no idea how to set it up so i can receive emails. any help?
[10:43] <bekks> !sendmail
[10:43] <bekks> hmmm.
[10:44] <bekks> scathen^C: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> i have his screen and mouse pointer distortion every first boot on 13.04 clean install on driver radeon and older ati X800 grafix card: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=96jp7b&s=5 , any sugestions?
[10:48] <ikonia> lotuspsychje always worth checking the support of your card with the driver you are using
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: well the funny part is, second boot it works flawless
[10:49] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, so it configured after the first boot then ...
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: not sure how this happens exactly, wanna see xorg log or syslog?
[10:51] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, umm, nope.  I can't read that stuff.  WAY over my head.
[10:51] <bibi23> I have connected a device through USB on my computer, is it possible to directly send data to it?
[10:51] <cfhowlett> bibi23, "device" ?
[10:52] <bibi23> cfhowlett: it's a ticket printer
[10:53] <cfhowlett> bibi23, ah.  depending on drivers, etc., you should be able to communicate directly  ... which I'm guessing is NOT happening?
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: seems supported here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver X800 agp
[10:53] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: always a good start
[10:54] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, is there a "generic" setting available?
[10:54] <henning3> bibi23: You might already have got a serial device on /dev/serial/* or a parallel device on /dev/*. Have you tried to let cups detect new printers?
[10:54] <bibi23> cfhowlett: it's esc/pos compatible, from what I understand it can work without any driver (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESC/P) but I'm not sure?
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: meaning?
[10:55] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, I was thinking perhaps there's a default "generic" setting
[10:56] <cfhowlett> bibi23, so have you tested it then?
[10:57] <bibi23> henning3: I'm on windows currently, I'm switching to ubuntu and come back to check
[10:57] <cfhowlett> bibi23, sounds like a plan.
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: i think i might need a kernel update for this
[11:00] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: why do you think that ?
[11:00] <ItsMeLenny> DAMNIT, hex editing cuffles the colours too
[11:00] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, ow.  perhaps try a dist-upgrade first
[11:00] <RituS> I was trying to upload the public part of the key and encountered the following error: http://pastebin.com/QvDpp6Di . Could somebody help me with this?
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: seems sortlike : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/556782
[11:01] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: are you using that kernel/card/drive ?
[11:01] <ikonia> driver
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: driver radeon on X800 ati card
[11:01] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: are you using the same kernel/driver/card as in that bug ?
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: not card, but similar isue
[11:02] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: then why do a random kernel update ?
[11:02] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: if you read the bug a fix was release to the 10.10 release, so anything after 10.10 should have that fix already in place
[11:03] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: 13.04, but i had same problem on previous versions aswell
[11:03] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: ok, so the fix was released to 10.10 - so the fix should be in 13.04 - so it is not the same issue, so why look at random kernel updates ?
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: every time the same mouse corruption
[11:04] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: so ? why look at random kernel updates ?
[11:04] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27529
[11:04] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: that bug is closed
[11:04] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: so it is not the same bug,
[11:04] <fudus> all that means is that someone closed it, not that it was fixed
[11:04] <ikonia> fudus: "resolved fixed"
[11:04] <ikonia> RituS: and it details the fix
[11:04] <ikonia> oops
[11:04] <fudus> being marked as fixed doesn't mean it is actually fixed :P
[11:04] <ikonia> fudus: and it details the fix
[11:05] <ikonia> fudus: grow up - the bug is marked as fixed and the fix detailed
[11:05] <ikonia> fudus: stop putting nonsense comments into a discussion
[11:05] <bibi23> henning3: ok I've switched to ubuntu, sorry I don't remember where you told me to check the printer? is it /dev/sda* ?
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[11:05] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: is it the open driver you are you are using ?
[11:06] <ikonia> RituS: apologies, hit tab to the wrong person
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: driver is radeon
[11:06] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: is it the open driver you are you are using ?
[11:06] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: just to confirm
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: driver that installed by default
[11:06] <henning3> bibi23: /dev/serial/* if it connects as a serial device
[11:06] <RituS> ikonia: yeah thats okay!
[11:07] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: ok, so the radion open driver was patched in 2.6.34 so as long as you are using a later kernel than that, the fix is already in your kernel
[11:07] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: so I have no idea why you think a kernel update  (to what kernel ??) will fix your problem
[11:07] <bibi23> henning3: it's connected with USB on the computer and RS 232 on the other side
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: on previous ubuntu versions this issue dissapeared for me after an update, not sure indeed kernel upgrade did the trick...but what else?
[11:08] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: honestly just doing "random" things is not the way to fix it
[11:08] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: you need to find out where the problem is (most likley as you suggested in the radion xorg driver) so that's nothing to do with the kernel
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: i never said i was going to random one, just think i might..
[11:09] <henning3> bibi32 so you have a separate usb->serial adaptor?  Then the ought to be something in /dev/serial/*
[11:09] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: why ? what possibly reason do you think the kernel needs an update ? what even suggests that
[11:09] <crazyhorse> hi i want to have a bunch of external drives that are fully encrypted and that are readable/writable from windows/ubuntu and osx
[11:09] <crazyhorse> the maximum size of the external drive is 2TB
[11:09] <crazyhorse> additionally these drives will have to appear on the filesystems as normal mounts so i can do backups with standard software etc
[11:10] <crazyhorse> any suggestions on what to format them as and what encryption scheme to use?
[11:10] <ikonia> crazyhorse: you have a problem then as your cross file system support for linux/windows/macosx is pretty much "nill"
[11:10] <bibi23> henning3: right looks like i see it, when I switch put usb on I can see /dev/serial and when I remove I don't see it anymore
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: i've tryed really many stuff on this issue, and kernel upgrade was one of the sugestions i got here in chat once...
[11:10] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: ok, so that's random as you have nothing to suggest the problem is with the kernel, nor that a kernel update will fix it
[11:10] <RituS> Hey I am having issues publishing the key on the ubuntu server. The following message was being displayed http://pastebin.com/3t2YxPza.
[11:11] <crazyhorse> ikonia: i don't mind installing software
[11:11] <czarzhan> #drupal-florida
[11:11] <czarzhan> gah
[11:11] <ikonia> crazyhorse: the file system is not software - it's the format the file are stored on, and there is no cross-platform-filesystem for windows/linux/macosx
[11:12] <crazyhorse> ikonia: for example i can have fully working NTFS on osx
[11:12] <henning3> bibi32: /dev/serial is a dir where the actual device can be found in subdirs. - I can access on od my connected phones as /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Sony_Ericsson_Sony_Ericsson_K750_35655xxxxxxxxxx_0-if01 What your device depends
[11:12] <ikonia> crazyhorse: sorry I just said there is "NO" cross platform file system for linux/macosx/windows
[11:13] <crazyhorse> ikonia: that wasn't my question
[11:13] <crazyhorse> has anyone tried ExFAT?
[11:13] <fudus> fat32 unless you want to do mroe than 2gb files?
[11:13] <dhanya> I got a bug i.e. a speeling mistake in a manpage of a command, i reported it. How do I proceed ?
[11:13] <ikonia> crazyhorse: it's not available on linux,
[11:13] <ikonia> crazyhorse: so it's not really something #ubuntu can help you with
[11:14] <crazyhorse> ikonia: i've just read in many forums that people are using ExFat with ubuntu
[11:14] <dhanya>  I got a bug i.e. a spelling mistake in a manpage of a command, i reported it. How do I proceed ?
[11:14] <bibi23> henning3: ah yep :) /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Prolific_Technology_Inc._USB-Serial_Controller_D-if00-port
[11:14] <fudus> oh encrypted
[11:14] <ikonia> crazyhorse: it's certainly not a "stable" supported solution
[11:14] <ikonia> crazyhorse: if you are happy with risking data loss, use it
[11:15] <ikonia> crazyhorse: the vfat file system mount process should work
[11:15] <crazyhorse> hmmm
[11:15] <ikonia> crazyhorse: from the docs
[11:15] <ikonia> crazyhorse: "Some distributions of Linux have begun to include support for exFAT. It is however, only available as a file system in user space, as it's not supported by the kernel"
[11:15] <ikonia> crazyhorse: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT
[11:16] <fudus> there was a leak of samsung's driver, which was done with ms's approval, but it may have legal issues
[11:16] <ikonia> fudus: please stop making things up
[11:16] <ikonia> fudus: there is no confirmation of Microsofts involvement
[11:16] <henning3> bibi23: but it might still be an idea to let cups handle the communication as a generic printer, and you can send pre-formatted data using ' echo ^XA^WD^XZ" | lpr -p ticketprinter ' ( sending a zpl label to the printer )
[11:16] <fudus> A non-FUSE implementation has also been released on GitHub[19], written by Samsung, however there is ongoing debate of the legality of this implementation as it appears it has been re-licensed without permission from Samsung[20][21].
[11:22] <bibi23> henning3: ok, the easiest the better, so I have to install "cups", then would I be able to have files as input to print tickets? for example like this one from the epson doc : http://pastebin.com/JdBfbUWC
[11:32] <BlitzHere> How do I start networking through recovery mode via command line
[11:32] <BlitzHere> The recovery option doesn't work
[11:32] <blockshadow> hellow
[11:33] <cfhowlett> blockshadow, hallew
[11:33] <BlitzHere> It just says my file system is clean and gets stuck
[11:40] <henning3> bibi23: cups is properbly already installed on your desktop. You just have to setup cups to know your printer. there is a passthru driver that simply passes everything directly to the printer so you can send pre-formatted data to the printer.
[11:41] <alvaro123> hi, I am trying to mount a windows server share but I keep getting a mount error, could anyone help me out? I explained the full problem here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5973277/
[11:45] <henning3> alvaro123: Have you tried to mount using ip instead of hostname?
[11:46] <BlitzHere> Anyone?
[11:46] <crazyhorse> what's the NTFS support in ubuntu (3rd party or native) like?
[11:47] <dhanya> I got a bug and reported it -   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/secure-delete/+bug/1210967 . Could I just make a patchfile and upload it or do I have to do something else ?
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> crazyhorse  ntfs-3g
[11:48] <alvaro123> henning3: is there a way to find the ip? pinging the hostname doesnt seem to work
[11:50] <crazyhorse> MonkeyDust: nice, is it known to be stable?
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> crazyhorse  what do you want to do?
[11:52] <crazyhorse> share files between osx windows and ubuntu
[11:52] <crazyhorse> through external hard drives :D
[11:52] <crazyhorse> i've got NTFS support on OSX
[11:52] <crazyhorse> i've just plugged it in and it seems to be working great
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> crazyhorse  start here http://www.liberiangeek.net/2013/04/mount-external-ntfs-partitions-in-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail/
[11:56] <crazyhorse> thanks :)
[12:00] <CheckDavid> infite, hi, you are sending me seomthing?
[12:00] <bibi23> henning3: I've installed it, now I can see it with lpstat -d -v "system default destination: espontm \ device for espontm: serial:/dev/ttyUSB0". However when I run "echo "^XA^WD^XZ" | lpr -p epsontm", I'm getting "lpr: Error - unable to access "epsontm""
[12:01] <infite> yes, but i am trying to figure out how this interface works.
[12:01] <infite> everything so new to me
[12:04] <karthik__> hey
[12:04] <cfhowlett> karthik__, greetings
[12:05] <karthik__> just testing out the IRC , new to this
[12:05] <cfhowlett> !test|karthik__,
[12:05] <QuackQuacker> Hi im trying to setup a local server which serves a welcome page with apache2. This is working fine. Now i have setup a AP and would like when connected to it and asking for any adress (etc. test.com ) go to my localhost instead. I have tried googling around and looked and iptables, but without success.
[12:07] <cfhowlett> QuackQuacker, if no joy here, ask in #ubuntu-server
[12:07] <QuackQuacker> Thanks
[12:09] <henning3> bibi23: You have configured cups to use an epson driver witch is not installed. If you want to use preformated output (that is your application genereate the code directly you need to change the driver to generic ( if I remember correctly - I'm normally using printers with print-servers ;-) )
[12:09] <Dj_FlyBy> I'm looking for a VERY good dupe checker that has the ability to check across both multiple drives (internal & external) and also across the network?  ANY recommendations?
[12:13] <funky1> anyone knows if you can flip the screen in xawtv?
[12:13] <bibi23> henning3: I've installed it through ubuntu interface and picked up the recommanded driver, which was "Generic text-only printer"
[12:16] <funky1> nm
[12:17] <karthik__> clear
[12:18] <cfhowlett> karthik__, /clear   note the backslash
[12:20] <henning3> bibi23: Then it's the connection that is the problem. You need to connect it to /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Prolific_Technology_Inc._USB-Serial_Controller_D-if00-port or /dev/ttyUSB0 not epsontm:/xxxxxxx
[12:25] <Guest87222> Hi, I am trying to fix a bug  -https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash-completion/+bug/887525, downloaded  the branch , how can I proceed
[12:26] <bibi23> henning3: currently it's connected to "serial:/dev/ttyUSB0", so you mean it should be "file:/dev/ttyUSB0"?
[12:27] <jrib> Guest87222: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/fixing-a-bug.html
[12:28] <dhanya> Do I have to use bzr diff to create a patch or can I straight away use diff, after downloading the source code .
[12:29] <jrib> dhanya: bzr diff is only useful if you are using bzr
[12:29] <dhanya> thanks jrib .
[12:30] <maximus-maximus2> guess what im the best #1 10th grader ever!!!
[12:34] <dhanya>   If using bzr , how do I create a patch for a downloaded source code ?
[12:35] <fartface> I have a list of torrents loaded in Transmission via the desktop, but I'd like to move them to transmission-daemon so that transmission runs at boot rather than having to open it.  When I load transmission via transmission-daemon, my torrents that were loaded via the desktop aren't there--does anyone know if there's a setting I need to switch or how I can get the same torrent list via the daemon as I have on the desktop?
[12:35] <henning3> bibi23: No that sounds correct. the problem is that I don't get where the " epsontm:" fits in.
[12:41] <bekks> henning3: epsontm:/dev/...
[12:43] <Guest56224> sorry i bessy now
[12:45] <Shiven> Hey all, anyone had an experience configuring xerces for ubuntu (13.04)?
[12:46] <bibi23> bekks: there is no such thing as "epsontm: " in the target, it's just the name I gave to this default printer, eg. "lpstat -v" outputs "device for epsontm: serial:/dev/ttyUSB0"
[12:51] <bibi23> henning3: I give up for today :(, anyway thanks for your help pointing me out to cups and so
[12:54] <henning3> bekks: Yes but he also write that destination was serial:/dev/..... elsewhere ;-)
[12:56] <Guest2832> Hi! I just connected a Canon camera. If I want too "see" it in the terminal, where to I cd too? =)
[12:56] <bekks> Guest2832: Take a look at dmesg
[12:58] <crazyhorse> I've got a drive that's listed as FAT (32-bit version_ EFI System Parition and i am unable to delete any of the files
[12:58] <crazyhorse> or write to the drive
[12:58] <crazyhorse> any idea why this would be?
[12:59] <yeats> crazyhorse: are you getting any error messages?
[12:59] <crazyhorse> yeah permission errors
[12:59] <crazyhorse> you don't have permission to access xyz
[13:00] <crazyhorse> it's mounted as a Read-only file system
[13:00] <crazyhorse> rm: cannot remove `vpn-mf9_ovpn142_account (1).ovpn': Read-only file system
[13:00] <zykotick9> crazyhorse: i'm not sure you should be messing with the "EFI System Parition", just sayin'
[13:00] <yeats> crazyhorse: sounds like you've got your reasons right there ;-)
[13:00] <crazyhorse> ah ok
[13:01] <crazyhorse> maybe i can just copy everything off and format it
[13:01] <zykotick9> crazyhorse: i'd guess, it's required to boot your computer...  i wouldn't mess with it!
[13:01] <crazyhorse> it's in an external harddrive
[13:01] <crazyhorse> it's not for booting
[13:01] <zykotick9> crazyhorse: oh...
[13:02] <crazyhorse> i'd prefer if i could mount it as a rw parition
[13:02] <SuperLag> Is it bad to always to dist-upgrade, rather than just upgrade?
[13:02] <SuperLag> s/to/do
[13:03] <yeats> crazyhorse: if it's not taking up much space, I'd just leave it, but that's just me
[13:03] <Guest2832> bekks:  Ok, did that. Gave me a ton of text, not sure if I found any line that spoke of any camera. What should I look for?
[13:03] <yeats> !dist-upgrade | SuperLag
[13:05] <bekks> Guest2832: The device node your camera is connected to.
[13:05] <bekks> Guest2832: Why do you want to see the ls -lha of the device node?
[13:07] <Guest2832> bekks:  Hm, ok. Not a 100% what that means. Not sure why I want to, a little bit because I am curious. I was hoping I was gonna see it as a disk, like /dev/video1 or something. Is that not how it works?
[13:07] <crazyhorse> hey does ubuntu have anything as good as picasa or close too?
[13:07] <bekks> Guest2832: No, its not. You can see a device node - but unlike a disk, you cannot mount it.
[13:07] <crazyhorse> with facial detection etc?
[13:07] <bekks> crazyhorse: digikam.
[13:08] <Guest2832> bekks:  Ok! So there is no more exat way of telling, form the cli, if the camera is connected properly?
[13:08] <bekks> Guest2832: No.
[13:10] <crazyhorse> bekks: nice..how goods the facial detection?
[13:12] <bekks> crazyhorse: It works.
[13:16] <iceroot_> Guest2832: you want the camera asa disc or as a webcam?
[13:16] <iceroot_> Guest2832: so you want to find out were you can find the mounted disk?
[13:27] <robin0800> Guest2832, Try media folder
[13:29] <Guest2832> iceroot_:  I want to see if the camera is working, and recognized by the system.
[13:29] <Guest2832> robin0800:  Where is that?
[13:30] <robin0800> Guest2832, in the file system
[13:34] <Hexagonite> Anyone know how to set-up a Hotspot on Ubuntu for Android devices to connect?
[13:35] <Dj_FlyBy> I'm looking for a VERY good dupe checker that has the ability to check across both multiple drives (internal & external) and also across the network?  ANY recommendations?
[13:36] <jrib> Dj_FlyBy: fdupes?
[13:37] <Dj_FlyBy> jrib: Works "ok" for local drives, but cannot get it to work across the network....  Same thing with FSlint
[13:38] <crazyhorse> i've got some files currently copying from one drive to another
[13:38] <crazyhorse> how do i show the dialog which indicates the progress?
[13:45] <Guest2832> robin0800:  "in the filesystem"... Doesnt really say me much. How do i cd there?
[13:46] <Guest56224> Hey ! guys i want install KDE on ubuntu How i do
[13:46] <yeats> !kde | Guest56224
[13:46] <Guest56224> thanks yeats
[13:49] <robin0800> Guest2832, cd .. cd .. cd media
[13:52] <ChrisMaQ> hi guys
[13:52] <Violin> standalone xonotic mod (3d game): http://sourceforge.net/projects/chaosesqueanthology/
[13:53] <Slugze> qs
[13:53] <Guest56224> guys How i install flag keyboard in KDE
[13:53] <blz> Is apache2 installed by default?
[13:53] <blz> I don't remember installing it at any point...
[13:54]  * blz suspects the NSA, since clearly it's them...
[13:54] <mnf> Hi... I have a problem with my Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS i686 and with flash N900
[13:55] <blz> mnf, you should describe the problem =)
[13:55] <mateobur> Hello
[13:55] <Guest2832> robin0800:  What do you mean with that?! "cd /media/"?
[13:55] <mateobur> I can't enable sharing options on my directories under ubuntu 13.04
[13:55] <mateobur> "Sharing service installation failed"
[13:56] <blz> mateobur, I think you have to install samba or NFS or something in order to share directories.  I could be mistaken, though
[13:56] <blz> mateobur, but that's worth looking into
[13:56] <mnf> yes, sorry for my English... i'm from Italy :p yesterday i connect my mobile with the usb device. Now i can't start the N900
[13:56] <mateobur> blz, I know the thing is that ubuntu offers to install the service, but when you click on install, it fails xD
[13:57] <blz> mateobur, yeah that brings back painful memories
[13:57] <blz> mateobur, try installing samba and smbfs
[13:57] <blz> mateobur, and then it should work
[13:57] <blz> mateobur, *should* being the operative word =)
[13:57] <blz> mateobur, `sudo apt-get install samba smbfs`
[13:57] <mateobur> smbfs
[13:57] <mateobur> doesn't exist
[13:58] <mateobur> in the repos
[13:58] <lvleph> I have a weird question about moving files. I want to turn off the extents flag in my ext4 partition and then move the files, so that I can mount as ext3.
[13:58] <lvleph> If I mv a folder are the files moved too?
[13:58] <blz> mateobur, try without it... must be an old backage from back in the day =)
[13:58] <mateobur> :D
[13:58] <djiefo> How do I change the text box color and the text color? I installed a nice desktop theme through Tweak Tool but i can't just read myself back because the text color and the box are almost the same.
[13:58] <mateobur> I need to restart session, bye!
[13:58] <lvleph> Or do I need to mv every file?
[13:59] <blz> mnf, I belive there's #ubuntu-it for Italian speakers =)
[13:59] <blz> mnf, although your English is certainly better than my Italian =D
[13:59] <blz> mateobur, you don't!
[13:59] <CYR4N01> So I was having an issue with nvidia proprietary drivers the other day. Where I was getting a blinking underscore on a black screen. I was informed of adding nomodeset to grub. I did this and now I no longer see the black screen. However nvidia doesn't seem to be using the proprietary driver and is stuck at 800x600 resolution.
[13:59] <Sling> the only Italian I know is from Family Guy ;)
[13:59] <blz> mateobur, try `sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart`
[13:59] <blz> or start instead of restart, potentially
[14:01] <mnf> yes but no one can help me there
[14:01] <lvleph> blz restart will start it if it hasn't already
[14:02] <blz> lvleph, that was my feeling as well, but I wasn't sure =)
[14:04] <mnf> on #ubuntu-it they told me: go to onother chat like #n9 #n900 #mer.... but are all empty chat!
[14:04] <k1l_> !alis | mnf
[14:06] <lvleph> I have a weird question about moving files. I want to turn off the extents flag in my ext4 partition and then move the files, so that I can mount as ext3.
[14:06] <lvleph> If I mv a folder are the files moved too?
[14:06] <doktorbrain>  /msg alis list #ubuntu
[14:06] <lvleph> Or do I have to move each file individually?
[14:06] <blz> lvleph, normally yes, mv moves files and folders recursively
[14:07] <blz> lvleph, but I have no idea of modifying the extents flag changes anything
[14:07] <blz> lvleph, can't you just try it and see?
[14:07] <fris> i ran into an issue with ubuntu, i run it in vmare fusion, and all of a sudden when i rebooted the machine, it starts up with a memtest, i rant it, when rebooting again, it just does an infinite loop, anyway to fix this without the install cd?
[14:07] <lvleph> If you turn off extents and then mv around files you should now be able to mount as ext3
[14:07] <lvleph> from my understanding
[14:08] <lvleph> Yeah, I was going to.
[14:08] <lvleph> Figured I would ask while I was completing some other operations
[14:09] <lvleph> fris: you should be able to get into the grub menu and skip the mentest
[14:09] <fris> ya i can get into grub, how would i skip the mem test and reboot so the ubuntu shows on the menu, right now in the grub menu it just shows memtest
[14:09] <lvleph> fris: to access grub menu hold the left shift button (if I recall correctly)
[14:09] <lvleph> at boot
[14:10] <lvleph> hmmm
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> fris: are there kernels installed?
[14:10] <fris> ya
[14:10] <lvleph> you can boot from live disk and do a grub-install
[14:10] <fris> it was after i did a dist-upgrade
[14:10] <lvleph> maybe grub got screwed
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> fris: If you see no kernels in Grub you may need to chroot to the installed OS from liveCD to run:   sudo update-grub
[14:11] <lvleph> sorry fris  ActionParsnip has the correct command
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> fris: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[14:11] <fris> so no way to do it without the cd?
[14:12] <lvleph> If you could mount the image and edit the grub file directly fris
[14:12] <fris> maybe i will just reinstall ubuntu ;), i only had it running apache and mysql for local dev anyway nothing of importance was on it
[14:13] <lvleph> mounting the disk image should be easy from vmware
[14:13] <lvleph> been a while, so...
[14:14] <mnf> I think i'm going to be mad... but thank you :)
[14:14] <dragoonis> I installed 'nginx' package with apt-get. but when i try to do 'service nginx start' it doesn't output anything to STDOUT
[14:14] <dragoonis> but when i do 'service nginx stop' it says '[OK]'
[14:14] <lvleph> mfs what are you trying to do? I haven't seen any questions.
[14:14] <lvleph> mnf^
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> fris: why reinstall, only the bootloader is faulty
[14:14] <lvleph> can't type
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> fris: plus reinstalling will also need the liveCD
[14:15] <dragoonis> Sorry, I DC'd there, did anyone reply to my question?
[14:15] <fris> ya i have the vmware ubuntu 13 image
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> fris: there is no 'Ubuntu 13'
[14:15] <dakotawulfy> have an easy question for some one  wminput  needs sudo would it be a problem to make it work with out sudo?? or would that cause a security problem
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> dragoonis: are there any bugs reported?
[14:15] <fris> 13.04 i mean
[14:16] <dragoonis> ActionParsnip, not that i know of
[14:16] <fris> this one http://www.thoughtpolice.co.uk/vmware/#ubuntu13.04
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> fris: the guide is quite simple. Your last kernel update seems to have screwed up Grub, if you manually run 'sudo update-grub' it will populate Grub with Kernels (if some are present)
[14:17] <dragoonis> ActionParsnip, nothing in the error_log
[14:17] <fris> k thanks will try that
[14:17] <Sebo> Hi, I need a simple and secure LDAP service implementation for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (mainly for gerrit @ localhost). Can you point me to the one proffered by yourself.
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> fris: yes, that is 13.04 codenamed 'Raring'. "ubuntu 13" doesnt exist
[14:17] <fris> my bad ;)
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> dragoonis: maybe the service file needs updating to output to the screen. You could check to see if it is missed
[14:18] <dragoonis> ActionParsnip, this is a fresh install i just literally ran apt-get on LAMP stuff.
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> dragoonis: then I suggest you report a bug
[14:19] <dragoonis> ActionParsnip, ok
[14:19] <Bejo> !seen vino
[14:19] <snufft> has anyone got eyefinity running on 13.04? I can't seem to find much through google for setting it up.  I've got my screens set to "multi-desktop display, with display(s) 2, 3" but games will still only run in a single screen
[14:20] <snufft> there's also multiple problems with fullscreen apps like chrome, banshee, etc, flickering like crazy
[14:20] <ocooel> How safe is it to set up accounts in Gwibber and Empathy..?
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> ocooel: in what sense
[14:22] <ocooel> ActionParsnip: I read there was a security vulnerability with gnome-online-accounts. How secure are these connections..?
[14:23] <dragoonis> ActionParsnip,
[14:23] <dragoonis> I got it working, there was an issue with the default sites-available/default file, but also nginx fails to start if you don't  do it as 'root'
[14:23] <dragoonis> Really they should be saying 'Permission denied, unable to restart nginx'
[14:23] <ChrisMaQ> can anyone tell me where to get a stable version of skype for ubuntu 12.04
[14:23] <jrib> !skype | ChrisMaQ
[14:23] <SkyDreamer> !help
[14:24] <ChrisMaQ> thanks let me check
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> dragoonis: then you have found a bug
[14:25] <ocooel> ChrisMaQ: There's always http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-computer/
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> ocooel: I'd imagine they will use whatever is suitable for the service. Are there any bugs reported?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> ChrisMaQ: if you have the partner repo enabled, you can install the app like any other
[14:26] <ocooel> ActionParsnip: Let me ask the question a different way. Do you use Empathy or Gwibber to connect to your social networks or as IM?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> ocooel: gwibber connects to your twitter feed and gives live alerts on new tweets
[14:27] <popit> anyone can help me use kali linux?
[14:27] <popit> i mean people on #kali-linux is not very helpful
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> popit: ask in #kali-linux
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> popit: its not supported here
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> popit  wrong channel, not supported here
[14:27] <popit> ok
[14:28] <ocooel> ActionParsnip: Yes. I guess it's a vague question - more suited to a security channel..?
[14:28] <ChrisMaQ> i get this error when executing the first step of installing skype
[14:28] <ChrisMaQ> dpkg: error: unknown option --add-architecture
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> ocooel: possibly. I would look at bug reports to see if there are known security issues
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> ChrisMaQ: did you use the partner repo?
[14:29] <ChrisMaQ> is that where u select the option in the software center?
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> ChrisMaQ  sudo apt-get install skype should do the trick, after you activated the source
[14:29] <HAWiese> Moin, moin!
[14:29] <HAWiese> Moin, moin!
[14:29] <ChrisMaQ> oki let me try
[14:29] <iceroot_> ChrisMaQ: on ubuntu mutliarch should be enabled by default, only on debian it is missing
[14:29] <iceroot_> HAWiese: moin
[14:30] <ChrisMaQ> ok im installing now ... thanks for the help hope it works bug free this time
[14:30] <ocooel> ActionParsnip: Where can I find the bug reports? On ubuntu or the app-specific sites? Bugzilla..? Sorry, I have moved to ubuntu from opensuse.
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> ocooel: launchpad
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> ocooel  what did you read and where?
[14:31] <iceroot_> ocooel: you will all bugreports on launchpad
[14:31] <iceroot_> !bug | ocooel
[14:34] <iceroot_> ocooel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/PACKAGENAME
[14:34] <iceroot_> ocooel: for example https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vim
[14:35] <streulma> finally got my Ubuntu 13.04 working on my Macbook Pro Retina. If there are people here with a Retina, I can help!
[14:36] <funky1> putin is a douchebag
[14:36] <ocooel> Thanks guys - there's definately more help than opensuse irc :-)
[14:37] <ocooel> MonkeyDust: This is where I read it - http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-1779-1/ - there is an update there, but I thought I'd ask the pro's in irc.
[14:39] <ocooel> Does this mean that I can report bugs right here in irc..? - ubuntu-bug <package>
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> streulma: i have a retina, one in each eye :)
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> ocooel: run that in a terminal and it will start the process
[14:40] <ocooel> That's cool
[14:42] <ocooel> MonkeyDust: Did you read it..?
[14:44] <dakotawulfy> wminput  needs sudo would it be a problem to make it work with out sudo?? would that cause a security issue?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> dakotawulfy: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/wminput.1.html    shows how you can make it not need sudo.....
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> ocooel  yes, just to know it was not some random message, somewhere
[14:47] <dakotawulfy> ActionParsnip thanks
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> ocooel  but I don't use social media myself
[14:48] <goaw_> hello. I'm a novice programmer, though I've not yet written any programs specifically for linux really. What language would I need to write a program for learning a language with a flash-card-type thing?
[14:50] <goaw_> I could easily do what I'm wanting to do with html, though I wanted to write a program that was native to Linux rather... any suggestions?
[14:52] <phoenix__> hi
[14:52] <janne_> phoenix__, hi!
[14:54] <phoenix__> after xubuntu install on my laptop i added a new user account and set it as administrator. after that i deleted the previous account which i created at the time of installation.but now i am unable to do any adminstrator task. it  says i am not in sudoers list
[14:55] <phoenix__> janne_, after xubuntu install on my laptop i added a new user account and set it as administrator. after that i deleted the previous account which i created at the time of installation.but now i am unable to do any adminstrator task. it  says i am not in sudoers list
[14:55] <ocooel> MonkeyDust: Yeah, it (was) is official.
[14:55] <ChrisMaQ> :( installed skype cant see call notification and it wont allow me to choose device for audio
[14:55] <Dako300> I have a Riva TNT2 and I need to run blender on Ubuntu 13.04 (upgraded from 12.04). Whenever I try and run it, I get this error:X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) and complains about GLX. How can I fix it?
[14:55] <janne_> phoenix__, administrator is not same as root user i think
[14:55] <ocooel> ActionParsnip: Yes or No. Do you trust IM clients..?
[14:55] <ChrisMaQ> what can i do
[14:56] <phoenix__> what should i do now?
[14:56] <janne_> sec
[14:56] <janne_> phoenix__, "sudo passwd root"
[14:57] <phoenix__> janne_, but i am not in sudoers list
[14:57] <janne_> type in password then try loging in with the root account
[14:57] <janne_> sudo su in terminal?
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> ocooel: i use pidgin
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> janne_: sudo -i     is advised, not sudo su
[14:57] <janne_> ActionParsnip, why?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> janne_: please dont advise users to set the root pass, its not necesary
[14:58] <zykotick9> janne_: you're giving bad advice to phoenix__ luckily it won't work
[14:58] <phoenix__> ActionParsnip, janne_ but i am not in the sudoers list
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> janne_: the fact you have to ask why, should be screaming at you to not advise users about the accoun
[14:58] <janne_> ActionParsnip, explain it to me then
[14:58] <phoenix__> zykotick9, why?
[14:58] <janne_> or us
[14:58] <zykotick9> !noroot
[14:58] <phoenix__> yes what?
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> janne_: you can use 'sudo' to get any and all access you need, you can use:  sudo -i   to become root but use your user's profile. sudo -i   will use root's profile
[14:59] <janne_> is it against the rules to discuss how to set the use password?
[14:59] <ocooel> ActionParsnip: Of course :-P
[14:59] <zykotick9> janne_: for root = YES
[15:00] <janne_> really awkward imo
[15:00] <bekks> phoenix__: Why do you crosspost btw? The solution to your problem was just provided in #xubuntu.
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> janne_: enabling the root account is not needed and NOT supported. If you want to set the account on your PC (even though it is not needed) then this is your choice
[15:00] <phoenix__> ActionParsnip, it seems i am not in the sudoers list and the account i had created during install was deleted now i am unable to do any admin task even though the new account type is admin
[15:00] <Dako300> How can I fix it?
[15:00] <janne_> however he wants to create a root account
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> janne_: Ubuntu is made by people who I am very sure know a LOT more about Linux than you,
[15:00] <bekks> phoenix__: And it stays the same: you arent in the sudoers list, the user once being a member was deleted, and now you need a live cd to fix it.
[15:00] <zykotick9> phoenix__: your new user needed to be added to the "sudo" group... not "admin"
[15:00] <phoenix__> bekks, how?
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> phoenix__: then you will need an admin to put you in the 'sudo' group and you will get accesss
[15:00] <bekks> phoenix__: I told you twice, in #xubuntu.
[15:01] <Dako300> I have a Riva TNT2 and I need to run blender on Ubuntu 13.04 (upgraded from 12.04). Whenever I try and run it, I get this error:X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) and complains about GLX. How can I fix it?
[15:01] <janne_> ActionParsnip, yes ofcourse, why are you even telling me that?
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> janne_: basically, you don'y know what you are doing yet see fit to advise users/
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> janne_: because you asked.....
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> (15:57:55) janne_: ActionParsnip, why?
[15:01] <bekks> janne_: He doesnt want to create a root account, because a root account is already there.
[15:02] <bekks> !root | janne_
[15:02] <janne_> ActionParsnip,  i asked why sudo -i is advised over sudo su. but whatever
[15:02] <janne_> ActionParsnip, you're being inpolite
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> janne_: if you want a root password  on your PC then fine but please dont advise users how to break their OS. The account is disabled for a lot of reasons and the fact that you asked me to explain basic system security should be a warning for you to not do it
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> janne_: I explained the sudo -i   earlier
[15:03] <zykotick9> janne_: "sudo -i" sets the environment correctly, while "sudo su" doesn't.
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> janne_: it gives a root prompt without needing to enable the root account, but also uses the user's profile.
[15:03] <janne_> ActionParsnip, yes, after i asked "why"
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> janne_: so why does root need enabling if sudo -i   does exactly the same thing, but better
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> janne_: ?
[15:04] <ChrisMaQ> could compiz affect skype not posting notifications?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> ChrisMaQ: could try a session without Compiz to test
[15:04] <janne_> ActionParsnip, it doesn't
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> janne_: so why advise it earlier then?
[15:04] <janne_> ActionParsnip, because i thought that was the way you did it
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> janne_: do what?
[15:05] <janne_> ActionParsnip, make a root acount
[15:05] <ChrisMaQ> thats my main problem with skype there is no notification when someone is calling
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> janne_: the root account is always present on all systems, there can only be one root account and that is 'root'
[15:06] <phoenix__> but i will not be able to create a root account because my account is not in the sudoers list
[15:06] <janne_> ActionParsnip, yes i do realize that now.
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> janne_: you can give users root-like access by adding them to the 'sudo' group, this can only be done by root or people already in the sudo groujp
[15:06] <zykotick9> phoenix__: you need to use recovery mode, or livecd/chroot
[15:06] <phoenix__> zykotick9, ok i got it
[15:06] <phoenix__> zykotick9, thanks
[15:07] <janne_> ActionParsnip, yep
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> janne_: so how ca you 'make a root account' when it already exists from install time, from the very first boot?
[15:08] <phoenix__> ActionParsnip, why do other distros force us to set root password during install
[15:08] <janne_> ActionParsnip, apparently you can't, right?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> janne_: yes, as it already exists. it is root. Its like local administrator in Windows. Its always there
[15:08] <zykotick9> phoenix__: other distros use the root account, *buntu doesn't.
[15:08] <janne_> ActionParsnip, i said i understand that now
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> janne_: do us all a favour, stick to the sudo group etc and we won't have to fix nearly as many issues
[15:10] <phoenix__> zykotick9, the what does ubuntu use?
[15:10] <janne_> ActionParsnip, yes i most certainly will, please do us all a favor and be more polite so people dont have to get pissed by your attitude
[15:10] <zykotick9> !sudo | phoenix__
[15:10] <Guest8072> what is this ubuntu all about?
[15:10] <zykotick9> phoenix__: you should probably see that "fixsudo" link!
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> janne_: well you are making problems with your 'help', then people need to dig user's out of the hole they are in and it makes the distro look bad
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> Guest8072: in what sense
[15:11] <janne_> ActionParsnip, oh
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> janne_: Ubuntu is for the lay-user, so when they start needing to mess with Grub or chroot from liveCD it puts them off
[15:11] <janne_> ActionParsnip, i understand, no hard feelings
[15:12] <Guest8072> is it socially?
[15:12] <janne_> ActionParsnip, i shall no longer try to give "help" with anything about linux or ubuntu that i am not 100% certain of
[15:12] <phoenix__> zykotick9, so i can repair without live cd..
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> Guest8072: socialy...what do you mean
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> janne_: its just a bad practice to avoid root :)
[15:18] <ikillcypher> hello guys how to contact a ubuntu developer ?
[15:18] <ikillcypher> ubuntu-touch
[15:26] <anner> ..users
[15:26] <digitalizeddeath> Hello
[15:26] <anner> hello
[15:27] <digitalizeddeath> Is this a open discussion IRS Channel
[15:27] <digitalizeddeath> *IRC
[15:28] <blz> lol the IRS doesn't know how to use computers ^^
[15:28] <Nasuga> blz: NSA started giving lessons :P
[15:28] <zykotick9> !ot
[15:28] <digitalizeddeath> Correct if they did we wouldnt have have half as bad of a budget crisis!
[15:28] <blz> Oh... damn.... we're all screwed
[15:29] <blz> zykotick9, chill out, man... 3 lines in a dead channel
[15:29] <blz> geez
[15:29] <zykotick9> blz: the !ot was actually an answer to digitalizeddeath question.  NO this isn't a "discussion" channel.
[15:29] <blz> zykotick9, oh, apologies then =)
[15:30] <digitalizeddeath> Question im trying to get my FAHControl to utilize my GPU does anyone have any experience with setting up the FAHControl for that purpose. Folding@Home (FAH)
[15:35] <kriskropd> I am having so much trouble installing sqlite3 on this ubuntu server vm - does anybody know why 'sudo apt-get install php5-sqlite' in 13.04 doesn't actually install sqlite3 into php5?
[15:36] <nova_34> hello
[15:36] <elpelado> hi everyone, have a nice day!
[15:36] <nova_34> can somebody help me understanding how irc works here?
[15:36] <sam113101> nova_34: ask your questions
[15:37] <nova_34> i want to find people who have ux in ubuntu, and helping newbies in answering related questions. So im looking for some  helpfull IRC Servers
[15:38] <subz3r0> ux?
[15:38] <nova_34> user experience ;-)
[15:38] <subz3r0> omg
[15:38] <kriskropd> nova_34: this is an ubuntu support channel. You can check out  #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to ask unrelated questions there
[15:39] <sam113101> looks like you're in the right channel, though
[15:39] <sam113101> if you have questions about ubuntu you should ask them here
[15:40] <nova_34> ok, i keep the offtopic channel in mind.
[15:40] <irc4> I'm using macchanger (linux) executing ifconfig shows my mac address changed, but my router still displays the factory mac address...
[15:43] <Pwnguin_> what the fuck
[15:43] <kriskropd> !language
[15:43] <Pwnguin_> hey can I do that too? !language
[15:43] <Pwnguin_> !language
[15:43] <Pwnguin_> oh well
[15:44] <semitones> Anybody know what this means? I'm getting this rsync error: rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 4 bytes to socket [sender]: Broken pipe (32). http://paste.ubuntu.com/5974035/
[15:45] <kriskropd> semitones: looks like you got disconnected
[15:45] <Nasuga> semitones: I've experienced a broken pipe error whenever I lost a connection. Example, SSHed into server while suspending computer.
[15:45] <kriskropd> semitones: mid-transfer
[15:45] <semitones> if that's the most common reason, maybe this usb cable is iffy
[15:47] <lvleph> Is there a way to unset extents flag? chattr apparently can't do this.
[15:47] <irc2> if a connection to a network fails my macchanger reverts back...
[15:47] <irc2> to the original mac address weird
[15:50] <kriskropd> irc2: I'm unfamiliar with mac spoofing with macchanger, but looking at this list of instructuins suggests you only can see the spoofed address with macchanger commands (http://www.ubuntugeek.com/macchanger-utility-for-manipulating-the-mac-address-of-network-interfaces-included-gui-utility.html )
[15:56] <semitones> I realized what was happening: the dest directory didn't have a drive mounted on it, so was too small
[15:56] <babinlonston> is it possible to use iphone in ubuntu 13 ?
[16:02] <semitones> i think so,  not sure
[16:02] <dakotawulfy> ok trying to write a rule and not working can some one help me out?
[16:03] <Raging> Hello Massives
[16:03] <chamunks> I need a little help with regex / sed
[16:03] <chamunks> sed -i "s/(\b[0-9]{1,3}\.){3}[0-9]{1,3}/$HOSTIP/g" /home/$USR/server.properties
[16:04] <chamunks> $hostip is declared using some other fancy regex but im getting sed: -e expression #1 char 35: unknown option to `s'
[16:06] <Raging> Anyone know about Kturtle?
[16:07] <hello_world> guys ..i am in ulimate ubuntu trouble..first i removed network manager in hope of configuring hotspot,,i that i tried to reinstall and after fixed some dependencies of dsub ..i am getting low graphics kind of crap...now all hope is here ..how can i restore my ubuntu..can i used fdisk ..plzz help
[16:07] <blaircse> Hey ppl having some issues with my ethernet connection in ubuntu 13.04,    I can connect with wireless fine but when connecting with ethernet I get a DNS error...... any suggestions would be awesome
[16:08] <Nasuga> blaircse: DNS error with addresses outside your LAN?
[16:09] <blaircse> yep i get the error when surfing
[16:09] <gbear14275> hello, I'm running into a really frustrating problem where mysql was upgraded when it's db was corrupted and I can't remove mysql-server.  It keeps trying to configure mysql 5.5 before removing the package and it can't finish so it won't purge or remove.  Anyone able to offer advice?  http://pastebin.com/2wB0fRk6
[16:10] <hello_world> anyone ..can throw somelight my cases .atleast how can i recover my data..i am not able to login and my network manger is purged(silly me)
[16:11] <blaircse> i get an ip, but no surf, both the ethernet connection and the wireless are coming from the same router/same network
[16:12] <hello_world> :(\
[16:13] <Dark_light> this might be a moronic question but sitll, does 12.04 gets the latest unity from backports or is it limited to the version it was released with ?
[16:13] <Dark_light> s/gets/get
[16:14] <gbear14275> Anyone able to help with a package that won't purge or remove?  Mysql-server : http://pastebin.com/2wB0fRk6
[16:14] <hello_world> can i replace the damaged or uninstalled packages from live usb folder..since i can access the disk ?
[16:16] <hello_world> i am in one of the deepest shit !!
[16:17] <hello_world> guys ..i am in ulimate ubuntu trouble..first i removed network manager in hope of configuring hotspot,,i that i tried to reinstall and after fixed some dependencies of dsub ..i am getting low graphics kind of crap...now all hope is here ..how can i restore my ubuntu..can i used fdisk ..plzz help
[16:17] <hello_world> can i replace the damaged or uninstalled packages from live usb folder..since i can access the disk ?
[16:19] <Raging> ANYONE khow about Kturtle please help me
[16:19] <blaircse> Hey ppl having some issues with my ethernet connection in ubuntu 13.04,    I can connect with wireless fine but when connecting with ethernet I get a DNS error...... any suggestions would be awesome
[16:20] <gbear14275> blaircse, what's the error?
[16:20] <hello_world> Raging: you need to reinstall network-manager..using sudo apt-get network-manager
[16:21] <gbear14275> hello_world, if you are just trying to reinstall why not boot from live usb, reformat and reinstall
[16:21] <Lighting>  “/join #metasploit"
[16:22] <blaircse> using chrome to surf, the error i get is : Error code: ERR_NAME_RESOLUTION_FAILED
[16:22] <blaircse> using chrome to surf, the error i get is : Error code: ERR_NAME_RESOLUTION_FAILED
[16:23] <blaircse> using chrome to surf, the error i get is : Error code: ERR_NAME_RESOLUTION_FAILED
[16:23] <Nasuga> blaircse: try setting your DNS with network manager to 8.8.8.8
[16:23] <Nasuga> That's googles DNS
[16:23] <Nasuga> tell me if it helps
[16:23] <Nasuga> also, restart chrome
[16:23] <ncko> also check your proxy settings
[16:25] <hello_world> gbear14275: thanks for reply..i am not trying to reinstall ..i am trying to repair without an internet connection ..somehow from live usb..
[16:25] <blaircse> no proxy settings
[16:26] <blaircse> so add 8.8.8.8 into additional dns settings? sorry i'm very much  beginner with ubuntu
[16:27] <Nasuga> blaircse, tell me if it helps.
[16:27] <Nasuga> blaircse, sometimes my router doesn't passed dns settings through DHCP so try this.
[16:30] <hello_world> can i use ubuntu live usb to replace file in filesystem of my hardisk ubuntu [03:28] <schumaml> you should ask this on an ubuntu channel
[16:32] <blaircse> sorry got disconnected
[16:37] <blaircse> sorry Nasuga, didn't get your last msg
[16:37] <Nasuga> blaircse, add 8.8.8.8 as your dns in network manager, and restart chrome.
[16:37] <Nasuga> Tell me if it helps
[16:44] <semitones> hey
[16:44] <semitones> is there a graceful way of telling rsync to stop midway
[16:47] <Raging> CAN ANYONE TELL ME MORE ABOUT KTURTLE?
[16:47] <blaircse> Hey Hey!! seems to have worked!!!
[16:47] <blaircse> thanks so much!
[16:48] <Nasuga> blaircse, no problem. I've gotten the problem and glad to help.
[16:59] <kim79> hey all
[17:00] <subz3r0> hey you
[17:03] <Jack^^> hi
[17:03] <Raging> HELLO JACK
[17:03] <Jack^^> is ubuntu professional cert still available?
[17:04] <Jack^^> i saw this on ubuntu website before.. but i can't find it nowadays
[17:04] <dowaat> anyone have a good reason why I cannot edit detail on an old forum account nor can I request to removei t? It's quite a pissoff
[17:04] <Raging> M NEWBIE SOWRRY
[17:04] <Raging> SORRY
[17:04] <Jack^^> ok
[17:05] <kim79> need some help here..  im caught between 3 distros and ned some help choose
[17:06] <Jack^^> kim: what are them?
[17:06] <kim79> fedora, ubuntu and mint
[17:06] <Jack^^> what do you want to use it for?
[17:07] <jrib> kim79: why do you need to choose?  Use them all; use the one *you* like the most
[17:07] <Jack^^> kim: you come to ubuntu channel, i will recommend ubuntu.
[17:07] <Jack^^> i'm using ubuntu for my desktop os..
[17:09] <kim79> jack :yes i know i`m in an ubuntu channel :P
[17:10] <Jack^^> kim: go for the one u like the most..
[17:10] <k1l_> kim79: use ubuntu
[17:11] <Jack^^> you can try them and then go for the one u like..
[17:11] <Jack^^> the one you feel comfortable with.
[17:11] <k1l_> kim79: for all other comparison questions ask in ##linux or in the offtopic channel
[17:11] <wilee-nilee> dowaat, #ubuntuforums
[17:11] <kim79> thanks
[17:11] <Nasuga> Use a VM to install each OS, and learn their internals without fear of breaking your system.
[17:11] <Nasuga> It's what I do.
[17:12] <Jack^^> yes. use VM..
[17:12] <Jack^^> but, i don't use vm when i starting to use linux distro
[17:13] <Jack^^> just get one laptop or pc and install it.. try it for a week or more than that..
[17:13] <Nasuga> I did, I started with a vmware using Fedora before I even knew what linux was.
[17:14] <Jack^^> i just install it and follow the guide online..
[17:14] <Jack^^> but i still couldn't understand it. lol.
[17:14] <Jack^^> started to use it is the first step to learn it..
[17:14] <kim79> is there a good way update ubuntu thise days?
[17:14] <k1l_> kim79: use the update manager?
[17:14] <Jack^^> update?
[17:15] <kim79> i meen upgrate
[17:15] <kim79> upgrade
[17:15] <Jack^^> use command line. :D
[17:15] <k1l_> Jack^^: and Nasuga we have a extra #ubuntu-offtopic for not ubuntu support related chatter
[17:15] <daftykins> kim79: between one version and another, or just to install the latest packages?
[17:15] <Raging> WHO KNOWS ABOUT KTURTLE IN UBUNTU PLEASE I NEED HELP WITH IT.
[17:15] <daftykins> no caps thanks
[17:15] <kim79> between versions
[17:15] <k1l_> !upgrade | kim79
[17:15] <Nasuga> k1l_, sorry.
[17:16] <k1l_> !details | Raging
[17:16] <wilee-nilee> Raging, Caps are yelling please.
[17:16] <Raging> i mean Kturtle can anyone tell me the use of it?
[17:17] <wilee-nilee> !info Kturtle
[17:17] <Jack^^> !upgrade
[17:17] <wilee-nilee> Raging, What release are you running?
[17:17] <Raging> am just use to caps in other sites sorry about that .
[17:17] <Raging> 11.04
[17:17] <k1l_> Raging: dont ask who knows something, just ask the specific question
[17:18] <wilee-nilee> !eol | Raging
[17:18] <pippo> exit
[17:18] <kim79> i`m running ubuntu live now and i like unity more then gnome 3
[17:18] <kim79> just missing the hot corner
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> kim79, unity is a compiz plugin on top of gnome 3
[17:20] <Raging> i tried upgrading but it was not successful maybe i'll try again.
[17:21] <wilee-nilee> Raging, A eol upgrade has a specific path it is in that eol link.
[17:21] <k1l_> Raging: see the upgrade instructions
[17:22] <harris> if i have a bunch of libreoffice writer files how can i convert them to pdf all at once
[17:23] <Dj_FlyBy> installed kubuntu-dekstop for my wife to use as she doesn't like Unity. Then I needed an update that prompted me to reboot and now when I boot the machine it gets to the part where it says loading 13.04 and then loads to a black screen. Any suggestions?
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | Dj_FlyBy
[17:23] <subz3r0> harris: why not searching google, ehh?
[17:23] <subz3r0> http://askubuntu.com/questions/113772/how-to-batch-convert-doc-or-docx-to-pdf
[17:24] <subz3r0> !google batch convert pdf...
[17:28] <jockey4her> a friend asked me to assist with his L-ubuntu on his 'very' small harddrive. He wants to install 13.04, but he has only a 6Gb drive. Can it be done?
[17:28] <jockey4her> the reason is that his previous version wont patch itself (no space OFC) and he can't get online with it.
[17:30] <kim79> been i while ago i tested ubuntu and i like it alot so far
[17:31] <daftykins> jockey4her: it's probably not going to be comfy
[17:32] <jockey4her> okay. thanks a bunch.
[17:33] <loin> hi guys, how can i get the kernel sources of my kernel?
[17:34] <rypervenche> loin: apt-get source linux-image, I believe
[17:34] <rypervenche> loin: You probably need to specify the exact version of it.
[17:34] <aquatic> I downloaded a game and have no idea how to get it started. help anyone?
[17:35] <daftykins> aquatic: what kind of game?
[17:35] <Jack^^> angry bird? :D
[17:35] <loin> rypervenche, that doesn't seem to be the sources package
[17:35] <loin> ryanakca, there's linux-sources
[17:35] <loin> but it's version 3.2 not 3.5....
[17:36] <rypervenche> loin: Let's find it in a PM, so we don't bother other people.
[17:36] <aquatic> it's called achron. i'm new to linux to its not the typical double click i'm use to
[17:36] <Jack^^> may i know what can we do with kernel?
[17:36] <loin> sure rypervenche
[17:39] <Bragex9> I have just switched from Ubuntu to Linux mint, and I I am now having the exact same problem that I had when I installed Ubuntu 5 months ago. I got help from someone in here, and everything was fixed. The problem is I don't remember what we did. All I remember is NVIDIA and Xorg. The error message i got after installing Linux mint is: cinnamon is running without video hardware acceleration. When I check driver manager, it says that I am using the
[17:39] <auronandace> Bragex9: mint isn't supported here
[17:40] <jrib> !mintsupport | Bragex9
[17:41] <auronandace> jrib:  i was told that factoid was out of date
[17:41] <Bragex9> auronandace: I know... I went to #linuxmint but it was not much activity there
[17:41] <jrib> auronandace: do you know mint's new support loaction?
[17:41] <auronandace> jrib: i don't sorry
[17:42] <jrib> auronandace: it's what they point to on http://www.linuxmint.com/contactus.php
[17:48] <hudo> hello with which tool can i control audio in ubuntu 12.10 ?
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> hudo, Control audio in what way?
[17:49] <sunr> hey
[17:49] <sunr> everyone
[17:50] <sunr> anybody who can help with vpn setup
[17:50] <hudo> hm, i do not remember, i had a tool, where you cantrol loudness , left/right, apps and so on
[17:51] <semitones> in byobu, how can you make a window maximized? For some reason none of the manuals say anythign about it
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> sunr, This a 3rd party vpn?
[17:52] <rypervenche> What is the best way to compile a kernel and have it create a deb package in Ubuntu?
[17:52] <kelvinella> Can I install Adobe Acrobat XI Pro on ubuntu?
[17:52] <kelvinella> do i install it in playonlinux??
[17:53] <sunr> wilee-nilee, its anonynommuius internet access
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> sunr, Right I know that are you using the ubuntu repos, that is what is supported here basically.
[17:54] <sunr> wilee-nilee, whats is ubuntu repos
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> kelvinella, Adobe Acrobat XI Pro I doubr there is a linux version, playonlinux is in the repos I believe.
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> sunr, Not sure I don't bother with vpn my self, if you want help though you have to detail what is aup not ask if someone will help you is all.
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> up*
[17:56] <sunr> wilee-nilee,  what is aup
[17:56] <hudo> i think it was pavucontrol
[17:56] <hudo> thx anyway
[17:57] <wilee-nilee> hudo, Look up at the up* correction.
[17:58] <kelvinella> i mean do i need to install acrobat pro in playonlinux?
[17:58] <kelvinella> i mean does acrobat pro work on playonlinux?
[17:58] <auronandace> !appdb | kelvinella
[17:58] <streulma> I removed appmenu in Ubuntu 13.04, now I have no menu in nautilus... what can I do?
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> kelvinella, Hard to say, try it, I doubt there is a linux version, adobe does not support linux in any way as of now that I know of.
[17:59] <wilee-nilee> streulma,  I removed appmenu?
[17:59] <hudo> wilee-nilee, what do you mean ? Sorry i dont understand
[18:00] <streulma> wilee-nilee, yes the menu bar on top in the bar, now I have menu's in apps itself, but not in the Nautilus app (finder)
[18:00] <semitones> if I want to be able to ssh to my computer from the internet, should I just port forward port 22, or is that a bad idea for security?
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> hudo, several lines below my spelling error I posted up* that is a correction commonly used on the irc
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> hudo, If you are looking for perfect english composition here you will be disappointed.
[18:03] <Raging> what is the command use to shutdown in Ubuntu?
[18:03] <mrmoth> Raging: poweroff
[18:03] <streulma> Raging: sudo shutdown -h now
[18:03] <mrmoth> whaa
[18:04] <Raging> can i add time to it like it is done in windows?
[18:04] <rypervenche> Raging: Sure, sudo shutdown -h 60 (for an hour)
[18:05] <TheUsD> does anyone know how to uninstall zentyal from a ubuntu server? can't seem to find any documentation online about it.
[18:06] <ellendway> hey, anyone with iPhone and iOS7?
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> ellendway, This is ubuntu support, you have any relevant needs?
[18:07] <semitones> Raging, I think you can do absolute times as well. Check out shutdown's man page
[18:07] <Raging> thanks @Rypervenche sometimes i like to give that command to the computer when am going out but i could not.
[18:07] <ellendway> Yes, Ubuntu 12.04.2 is not able to verify my phone and I cannot access my pictures.
[18:08] <Marlenee> how to record any thing happen while iam ruunig programmes in back ground
[18:08] <Marlenee> i try "logsave" command and it not record all
[18:08] <rypervenche> Raging: You can also use the "at" command to specify a time you want a command to run.
[18:08] <peeeps> Hi everyone!
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> ellendway, There is a apple or mac channel I believe
[18:08] <peeeps> Got a question. Is there any keboard key/command that allows me to switch the worplace on unbuntu studio?
[18:08] <ellendway> wilee-nilee, okay, thanks anyway.
[18:09] <JViz> i made a pcap.pc file so that libpcap will work with pkg-config, where can I submit it?
[18:09] <semitones> Marlenee, sometimes the program is already saving its own logs, did you try that?
[18:09] <semitones> peeeps, did you look up the normal ubuntu keybindings and try those? maybe they will work
[18:10] <TheUsD> ellendway could just be ubuntu, it does not see or mount my BB z10 either.
[18:11] <ellendway> TheUsD, I can see the phone as connected, unfortunately I just cannot verify it.
[18:11] <Raging> @Rypervenche if i want the command to run 20 mins after i left can i write like this(sudo shutdown -h 60 at 20)  is it correct to do that?
[18:12] <TheUsD> ellendway infact all my other machines (win7) see it over the network too as a NAS device but 12.04 does not see it.
[18:12] <TheUsD> ellendway could just be a driver issue...?
[18:12] <TheUsD> does anyone know how to uninstall zentyal from a ubuntu server? can't seem to find any documentation online about it.
[18:12] <rypervenche> Raging: sudo shutdown -h 20
[18:13] <ellendway> I don't think so. I never had a problem on Windows 7. They did a new feature (https://neosmart.net/blog/2013/apple-finally-locks-down-the-usb-port-ios-7/) and it's being more annoying than ever before.
[18:13] <Raging> @Ryper how can i abort if i change my mine/
[18:14] <semitones> Raging, sudo shutdown -a
[18:14] <semitones> Raging, you really ought to "man shutdown" it explains everything
[18:14] <Raging> wow! thanks people
[18:17] <unitraxx> hi all. I have an Asus n56v and I'm having the battery and fan issues which a lot of users seem to have according to google but I have not found a solution. Someone an idea?
[18:17] <Raging> this thing says "shutdown: Need to be root"
[18:18] <unitraxx> I tried installen 3.10.5 kernel.. but that didn't help. (How do I uninstall a kernel and go back to my still installed 3.8 kernel? )
[18:18] <streulma> Raging: sudo shutdown -h now
[18:19] <wilee-nilee> unitraxx, Choose the original kernel at the grub menu to begin with.
[18:19] <unitraxx> oh ok
[18:19] <unitraxx> then I have to reboot :p
[18:19] <unitraxx> but apart from that, any idea for the battery and fan issue?
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> !details | unitraxx
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> unitraxx, Details get you far grasshopper. ;)
[18:20] <Raging> @streulma i tried and it worked thanks.
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> !tab | Raging
[18:21] <Raging> i did not write the sudo at first
[18:21] <unitraxx> well if I boot into ubuntu, chances are (yes not always) that my battery led starts blinking, and my fan goes 100% while not on a specific load. Only solution is to shutdown, unplug cable, unplug battery and reboot.
[18:22] <unitraxx> 13.04 Asus n56vb, but I did some research and a lot of asus models are having this problem on either 12.04 12.10 and 13.04
[18:24] <unitraxx> (The issue occur when the laptop is still a bit warm from a previous boot. Or so it seems to me. I never have the problem if I boot after a night of sleep.)
[18:24] <unitraxx> s/occur/soccurs
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> unitraxx, Just a general search might help while you wait. https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&fp=50e29643d5ca2335&hl=en&q=13.04+Asus+n56v+fans+battery
[18:25] <unitraxx> yeah that gives me all the links I already visited : people reporting the same bug without a solution :)
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> unitraxx, Yeah, that happens, bugs are not really fixed here, so hard to say what the answers are, have you made a thread at the ubuntu forums?
[18:27] <semitones> does anything bad happen to an ext2 partition if you mount it as ext4? Can it still be read by things that are ext2 only?
[18:27] <semitones> (later on)
[18:28] <wilee-nilee> semitones, Can you share mounting in that way?
[18:28] <Voi> i get an error 127 on make install, http://pastebin.com/msamqQFe what went wrong?
[18:28] <wilee-nilee> Voi, What are you installing and did you check the ubuntu repos for it?
[18:29] <Voi> wilee-nilee, node.js, i checked software center but not the repos
[18:29] <GrakovNe> Good morning from cold Siberia!
[18:30] <unitraxx> wilee-nilee: I did not make a thread.
[18:31] <semitones> wilee-nilee, not concurrently, but yes. I have two computers that sometimes access this drive, and one can only read/write to ext2
[18:31] <GrakovNe> What is last release? 13.04?
[18:31] <TheUsD> is ripping a website considered illegal?
[18:31] <wilee-nilee> unitraxx, Just for extra possibilities I would that forum has at least 60,000 regular user and over a million signed up or at least did.
[18:31] <semitones> TheUsD, only if you plagiarize
[18:31] <semitones> but not on topic here
[18:31] <DJones> TheUsD: Probably not, most websites have a copyright notice of some sort
[18:32] <ellendway> TheUsD, okay, it's a know bug :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1207812
[18:32] <jrib> TheUsD: ask a lawyer.
[18:32] <TheUsD> semitones I asked that because I wanted to ask for a good website ripping tool for ubuntu, but don't want to without violating rules here.
[18:33] <semitones> I'm not sure what website ripping is, then. Firefox>save as?
[18:33] <jrib> TheUsD: httrack and wget
[18:33] <GrakovNe> go to Russian sites! There are not copyright!
[18:33] <Nasuga> TheUSD: the wayback machine must have hidden servers then.
[18:33] <TheUsD> jrib httrack will not work for the site I am looking at.
[18:34] <f00bar80> how to stop dnsmasq in ubuntu 13.04, i've tried service dnsmasq stop, but got "dnsmasq: unrecognized service"
[18:34] <syko> Hi.
[18:34] <jrib> TheUsD: why is that...?
[18:34] <GrakovNe> syko, Greeting!
[18:34] <blazemore> f00bar80: Why do you think the service is started in the first place?
[18:34] <syko> f00bar80, what is the output of sudo service dnsmasq status?
[18:35] <TheUsD> jrib not sure, I tried it and when I go to load the local copy its just a blank page
[18:35] <syko> and greetings to you too, GrakovNe!
[18:35] <f00bar80> blazemore, getting the following  http://pastebay.com/1278127 , when tried to start unbound, at the time bind9 is stopped
[18:35] <TheUsD> jrib its an html5 page and it looks like it is located on several servers.
[18:35] <f00bar80> syko, i'm running this as root
[18:35] <blazemore> f00bar80: That's a pretty self-explanatory error message
[18:36] <syko> f00bar80, what is the output of grep -i dns /var/log/dmesg?
[18:36] <f00bar80> blazemore, but bind is stopped
[18:36] <jrib> TheUsD: you have to investigate what exactly is happening and why that isn't what you expected
[18:36] <blazemore> f00bar80: You should confibure bind (/etc/bind) to listen on a different address
[18:36] <f00bar80> syko, [    1.605402] Key type dns_resolver registered
[18:36] <TheUsD> ellendway good to know, thanks for the link!
[18:37] <GrakovNe> what about badblocks? Which program can relocate em?
[18:37] <syko> have you tried running it manually, f00bar80?
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> GrakovNe, If you have bad blocks enough to have to ask I would get a new HD.
[18:38] <syko> f00bar80: what you're saying, that is not the normal behavior. it SHOULD respond no matter how it is started.
[18:38] <syko> f00bar80: If you start it as a service, does the daemon really start? Is it listed in a ps? Does it start at startup or do you always start it manually? If manually, then how did you install it?
[18:38] <TheUsD> jrib its a template on wix.com and from what I understand the templates they have are open source but I cannot find the template name (real name) and they break down the website onto several servers
[18:38] <unitraxx> I did at "options snd-hda-intel model=asus-mode4" to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf to get my subwoofer working. Although I have no idea what that actually does.
[18:38] <unitraxx> Could that in anyway "hurt" my installation?
[18:38] <GrakovNe> wilee-nilee:  only 16. But system can't start normally because en
[18:39] <f00bar80> syko, the same when tried to start unbound as a service
[18:39] <syko> f00bar80, go in /var/run/dnsmasq/resolv.conf and uncomment  IGNORE_RESOLVECONF=yes.
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> GrakovNe, Get a HD and dd it to it.
[18:39] <f00bar80> syko, /var/run/dnsmasq/resolv.conf is empty
[18:39] <syko> that's weird, f00bar80.
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> GrakovNe, Are you sure it is badblocks?
[18:39] <syko> looks dnsmasq is corrupt, f00bar80. maybe try re-installing it manually?
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> GrakovNe, There is a smartcheck on the live cd in disks I believe.
, tried. But at next reboot all mark theren't. Yeah, its badblocks
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> GrakovNe, The more you run a bad HD the closer you get to no recovery at all, so be careful.
[18:41] <f00bar80> syko, i've reinstalled dnsmaq ... and always the same issue when tried to start unbound
, All data was copied, of cause.
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> GrakovNe, Then get a new HD, we don't do miracles. ;)
[18:43] <f00bar80> blazemore, how to change the bind port ? /etc/bind/named.conf.local , has nothing about ports and all is commented in there
[18:43] <Jeeves_Moss> where is the SNMP snapin for configuration on a 2008 server?
[18:43] <blazemore> !bind | I'm not sure f00bar80, maybe this is a factoid and can help
[18:43] <blazemore> Nope...
[18:43] <blazemore> f00bar80: maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> GrakovNe, http://askubuntu.com/questions/104070/what-is-the-best-way-to-check-and-repair-hard-drive-for-bad-sectors
, it's bad... But i'm russian) And "new" - is'n my way) Want try the low-level formatting
, thank for links!
[18:46] <alalavin> question about tablet
[18:46] <bushy> I have some links on the Top Bar and don't see how to remove them
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> GrakovNe, I hope you can achieve what you need, however you have to ask yourself is it a possibility.
[18:46] <bazhang> !touch | alalavin
[18:47] <alalavin> how can i move to that page from here ?
[18:47] <bazhang> alalavin, /join #channelname
[18:47] <alalavin> thnx
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> !details | bushy
[18:48] <GrakovNe> bushy: What a trouble? What a links?
[18:48] <streulma> I can't set the screen brightness in Ubuntu on Macbook Pro Retina
[18:49] <streulma> where can I look ?
[18:49] <bushy> I haven't used UBUNTU for quite a while, just started it today.  I guess I should get jy bearing before posting for help.  I'l be back when I have better info.
[18:50] <syko> bushy: do you want to be a Ubuntu pro?
[18:50] <streulma> oh boshy, can we help us together ? :)
[18:50] <syko> streulma & bushy: do you two want to be pros of ubuntu?
, look it /sys/class/brightness
[18:50] <syko> streulma & bushy: then try out http://ubuntu-manual.org
[18:51] <Guest22653> im wondering how to add somthing to quicklists for firefox
[18:51] <daftykins> streulma: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2006475-p-2.html
[18:51] <bushy> Thanks, I first need to see what version I am on and I am struggling with that simple task ;-)
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> Guest22653, quicklists for firefox?
[18:51] <blazemore> Guest22653: Look at the top answer here : http://askubuntu.com/questions/187429/how-to-add-firefox-profiles-to-quick-list-for-firefox-launcher
[18:51] <blazemore> Guest22653: You can edit the Firefox quicklist with Ubuntu-Tweak http://askubuntu.com/questions/75454/how-do-i-install-ubuntu-tweak
[18:52] <Guest22653> im lookind to open bookmarks libary from quicklist
[18:53] <bushy> OK I'm on 12.04 LTS with a gnome desktop.  The top bar has my home folder, I want to remove it and don't know how.
[18:53] <blazemore> Guest22653: You would have to find a command which opens the firefox bookmark library
[18:54] <blazemore> bushy:  Super(Button with windows logo on it)+Alt+Right Mouse Click on the bar
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> bushy, The fallback desk top, there are multiple gnome 3 desktop possibilities.
[18:55] <syko> wilee-nilee: xfce>gnome
[18:55] <Guest22653> blazemore, was wodering if someone knew it
[18:55] <jesusemelendezm> guys, how can I change my root password if I forgot it.
[18:56] <daftykins> boot rescue mode
[18:56] <blazemore> Guest22653: Looking at "firefox --help" there isn't one
[18:56] <syko> rescue mode to the rescue!
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> jesusemelendezm, You mean the user password, there is no root password
[18:56] <jesusemelendezm> that's my question. So there is no root password for ubuntu ?
[18:56] <jesusemelendezm> how come ?
[18:56] <jesusemelendezm> my user pw is my own root/
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> jesusemelendezm, That is the design
[18:56] <blazemore> !ot | jesusemelendezm It's an awesome question but not for this channel
[18:57] <hellz_> anyone know the most up to date way for addling click listener to a Button? When googling I see ClickListener and ChangeListener
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> jesusemelendezm, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[18:57] <jesusemelendezm> thanks ubottu
[18:57] <jesusemelendezm> how about ubuntu server? does it have a root/
[18:57] <jesusemelendezm> ?
[18:58] <streulma> hello ubottu :)
[18:58] <Guest22653> also is there a quick list for display to switch montor out put
[18:58] <streulma> the bot do not answer :(
[18:58] <jesusemelendezm> #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:59] <blazemore> Guest22653: There's an application indicator - https://code.launchpad.net/~nmellegard/disper/disper-indicator
[18:59] <niel> Hey, I'm having issues configuring my mouse with ubuntu. I added this to xorg.conf but it still doesn't work. http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=tax1FAxY Could anyone help me?
[18:59] <jrib> jesusemelendezm: do you know about sudo?
[19:00] <blazemore> !details | niel
[19:01] <niel> What commands do I have to run to give you guys more details then?
[19:01] <f00bar80> how to stop dnsmasq in ubuntu 13.04, i've tried service dnsmasq stop, but got "dnsmasq: unrecognized service"
[19:02] <Guest22653> wondering if its possible to do through quicklists
[19:03] <syko> f00bar80: do you know about kill?
[19:03] <blazemore> Guest22653: You'd have to find a command which does exactly what you want; quicklists are just lists of commands
[19:03] <blazemore> Guest22653: Take a look at the command-line utility RandR which is used to change display settings
[19:04] <fossterer> Hi ! Why do I receive "Requires Installation of Untrusted packages"  while installing new packages?
[19:04] <JViz> is there and ubuntu dev channel?
[19:04] <Ampelbein> fossterer: Because you don't have the archive signing key for some packages on your system.
[19:05] <Raging> i have the poorest connection. my upgrade time says 2days.
[19:05] <fossterer> Ampelbein: how do I get one?
[19:05] <Ampelbein> JViz: there is #ubuntu-devel
[19:05] <JViz> Ampelbein, thank you
[19:05] <Ampelbein> fossterer: That depends. Did you add any 3rd party repositories?
[19:06] <Ampelbein> fossterer: Can you poste the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and sources.list.d folder? Use paste.ubuntu.com for the files.
[19:06] <fossterer> no.. I was installing 'gnome-do' from Ubuntu Software Center
[19:06] <fossterer> post the contents? yeah wait
[19:07] <blazemore> fossterer: http://naveenubuntu.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/fixing-gpg-keys-in-ubuntu.html
[19:07] <f00bar80> syko, i did already kill -9 PID of dnsmasq
[19:08] <f00bar80> gtg
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> JViz, I believe so but closed
[19:09] <A_J_> I have a little bit of a problem. occasinally my pc refuses to connect to my wired network. idk why it seems random.
[19:09] <fossterer> Ampelbein: blazemore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5974632/
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> JViz,Stae your issue for actual help.
[19:09] <A_J_> only happenbs in ubuntu too.
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> State*
[19:09] <JViz> wilee-nilee, i made a pcap.pc file so that libpcap will work with pkg-config, where can I submit it?
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> !details | A_J_
[19:10] <blazemore> fossterer: Can you do the same thing for the output of "sudo apt-get update" please?
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> JViz, NOt sure you have to have a luanchpad account and be a ubuntu member at the least I suspect
[19:10] <A_J_> wilee-nilee: umm okie. the network is connected via a router. it normally connects automatically cause everything is dynamic
[19:10] <JViz> i would think that pkg-config is distro specific, so that's why I came here
[19:10] <A_J_> wilee-nilee: i'm not sure what the issue can be.
[19:10] <fossterer> blazemore: ohh... I have about 500 MB updates waiting to be installed.. Is that the cause ?
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> A_J_, Neither am I.
[19:11] <fossterer> I'm postponing the update process intentionally
[19:11] <Ampelbein> wilee-nilee: You don't have to be a ubuntu member to report a bug or feature request. Though that would make life of the bug triagers easier ;-)
[19:11] <blazemore> fossterer: No, could you show me the output?
[19:11] <A_J_> wilee-nilee: anything i should check in settings ?
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> Ampelbein, Hence the "Isuspect" tell the user
[19:12] <JViz> wilee-nilee, do you know anyone who has a launchad account and is an ubuntu member who could submit it themselves?
[19:12] <Ampelbein> JViz: Generally, .pc files should be submitted upstream, with the developers.
[19:13] <JViz> Ampelbein, since it's a pkg-config file, shouldn't i submit it to pkg-config?
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> JViz, I would talk with Ampelbein maybe they seem to want to help. ;)
[19:14] <Ampelbein> JViz: No, while pkg-config uses those .pc files to calculate library dependencies and flags, they belong to the specific source package.
[19:14] <Ampelbein> JViz: Otherwise pkg-config would have to be reuploaded every time a new .pc file gets added.
[19:15] <fossterer> blazemore: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5974653/
[19:15] <JViz> Ampelbein, surely there is a better way to handle updates
[19:16] <blazemore> fossterer: OK I know exactly how to fix this. Close all programs/windows which have to do with installing software e.g. Synaptic, software-centre and terminals.
[19:16] <Ampelbein> JViz: Yes, open a ticket at https://github.com/the-tcpdump-group/libpcap/issues
[19:17] <blazemore> fossterer: Now you should delete the locked files. You can delete the lock file with "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock", you may also need to delete the lock file in the cache directory "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock"
[19:17] <Ampelbein> JViz: They are the upstream developers. That way, your contribution will be available to all users, not just Ubuntu.
[19:17] <alfredo_> hi
[19:17] <alfredo_> nedding help
[19:17] <blazemore> !details | alfredo_
[19:17] <alfredo_> thanks
[19:17] <blazemore> fossterer: Then do sudo apt-get update --fix-missing
[19:18] <alfredo_> need to generate an script to download from terminal an archive that changes their name
[19:18] <fossterer> blazemore: doing...
[19:18] <blazemore> alfredo_: Could you give an example?
[19:19] <fossterer> blazemore: meanwhile let me ask 'what could have caused the problem'?
[19:20] <alfredo_> I need to download form: "http://www.cabrillo.edu/~dbrown/tracker/installers/Tracker-4.81-linux-64bit-installer.run" this archive with wget
[19:20] <blazemore> alfredo_: OK so why do you need a script?
[19:20] <alfredo_> the archive changes its name with every actualization
[19:21] <blazemore> How does it change its name?
[19:21] <alfredo_> because Im generating an script to install all my software every time that I format my machine
[19:21] <DarwinSurvivor> alfredo_: can you give us an example of which part of the name changes? Are the old files still left in place (leaving multiple options)? If so, do you want all of them or just the latest?
[19:21] <blazemore> No I mean, in what way does the name change? Does the number increase?
[19:22] <alfredo_> changes the number in the extension
[19:22] <alfredo_> I tried using a wildcard but doesn{t work
[19:22] <alfredo_> no, the old files are deleted
[19:23] <spartanx> hello all i have pen tablet a 6 kraun it is compatibility on ubuntu
[19:23] <alfredo_> I want the only one file in that direction
[19:23] <spartanx> ?
[19:24] <DarwinSurvivor> alfredo_: wget the directory, grep for the lines matching part of the name, last -n 1, sed the part you want, send to wget
[19:24] <alfredo_> can you write the line?
[19:24] <DarwinSurvivor> if there is only one, you could omit the tail -n 1, but I'd leave it in just in case an old version gets left in for some reason
[19:24] <spartanx> ?
[19:25] <ubnoobtu> how do I checksum?
[19:25] <fossterer> blazemore: Got this - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5974704/
[19:26] <James_Epp> I tried to get help on linuxmint spotnet IRC but twice no-one has responded. I would appreciate if someone could help me with my issue. A few days ago, I plugged in my Samsung Galaxy S3 into my LM 13 Cinnamon install and it initially came up with a wizard asking for the carrier name and APN to set up the Mobile Broadband connection. This worked perfectly after I supplied the information, as I got a 10.xxx.xxx.xxx IP and had Internet access. Come today,
[19:26] <DarwinSurvivor> hmm, actually they seem to render a webpage if you access just the directory, so that might not work
[19:26] <DarwinSurvivor> alfredo_: is there any page on their site that shows which version is the current one?
[19:26] <alfredo_> yes
[19:26] <DJones> James_Epp: I'm afraid Mint isn't supported here, the channel only supports the official Ubuntu variants
[19:26] <alfredo_> http://www.cabrillo.edu/~dbrown/tracker/
[19:27] <ubnoobtu> !checksum SHA256
[19:28] <Jeeves_Moss> why does my Cacti server still show servers having an "unknown" status when the SNMP shows all of the information correctly about the hose?
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | ubnoobtu
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> James_Epp, If you install ubuntu you will have much more support, mint is just ubuntu in drag.
[19:30] <Dandalion> Hi I'm trying to install GCC 4.7 or higher
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> James_Epp, ubuntu 13.04 has cinnamon in the repos.
[19:30] <Dandalion> current installed is 4.6.3 I believe, anyone know how to get 4.8 ?
[19:30] <ubnoobtu> !sha256 | wilee-nilee, What's up man, thanks for putting me on the right direction last time.
[19:31] <jellf> hi all
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> ubnoobtu, I don't remember it, I was just serving my own needs, glad you were a part of it. ;)
[19:31] <fossterer> jellf: A hi alone is generally not answered... place your question
[19:32] <DarwinSurvivor> alfredo_: wget $(wget http://www.cabrillo.edu/~dbrown/tracker/ -O- -q | grep "Linux 64-bit" | sed -e 's/^.*"\(.*\)".*$/\1/')
[19:32] <alfredo_> lets prove
[19:32] <ubnoobtu> Wilee-nilee| I'm such a noob, so what are some things I sould know when dealing with this system.
[19:33] <DarwinSurvivor> alfredo_: wget $(wget http://www.cabrillo.edu/~dbrown/tracker/ -O- -q | grep "Linux 64-bit" | head -n 1 | sed -e 's/^.*"\(.*\)".*$/\1/')
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> ubnoobtu, Not sure really, just be careful and execute only confirmed stuff really to start with.
[19:33] <James_Epp> wilee-nilee: What do you mean by "in drag" ?
[19:33] <DarwinSurvivor> use that one, it will keep working if they ever add the words "Linux 64-bit" to the body of the webpage
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> James_Epp, dressed up
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> a fake in some sense
[19:34] <DarwinSurvivor> alfredo_: whoops, sorry, forgot to include the base-url, just a second
[19:34] <James_Epp> True enough. Dont' get me wrong, I absolutely love ubuntu. I just feel as if I get a better experience out of lm.
[19:35] <DarwinSurvivor> alfredo_: wget http://www.cabrillo.edu/~dbrown/tracker/$(wget http://www.cabrillo.edu/~dbrown/tracker/ -O- -q | grep "Linux 64-bit" | sed -e 's/^.*"\(.*\)".*$/\1/')
[19:35] <ubnoobtu> Good stuff | Nilee, Is running a virtual box easy. I remember only being able to do it once with archlinux. It was easy then, but is it difficult for windows gaming.
[19:35] <DarwinSurvivor> alfredo_: ^^ Ok, I've tested that one and it works 100% (unless they ever change the layout of that first page)
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> James_Epp, Sure but not very good support is all.
[19:35] <reisio> ubnoobtu: the performance won't always be good enough for games, depends on the type of game, and your hardware
[19:36] <ubnoobtu> reisio| thats whats i'm thinking, esp if ts only gaming.
[19:36] <ubnoobtu> online*
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> ubnoobtu, If you tab complete nicks we are actually informed you are talking to us.
[19:36] <DarwinSurvivor> alfredo_: if you want something more robust, you could look into xml parsers (like beautiful soup)
[19:36] <ubnoobtu> wilee-nilee| is it sap sensitive?
[19:36] <ubnoobtu> cap*
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> 'Case Sensitive'  ;)
[19:37] <ubnoobtu> doh
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> ubnoobtu, No just completes the nick if you have enough of it started, the terminal in ubuntu will do this to with commands.
[19:37] <James_Epp> wilee-nilee: We shall agree to disagree :D
[19:37] <ubnoobtu> huh
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> James_Epp, Okay, not sure where that is. ;)
[19:38] <ubnoobtu> okay, so commands are case sensitive?
[19:38] <fossterer> blazemore: away?
[19:38] <rafaelsoaresbr> does anyone knows if fglrx from official repositories is working?
[19:39] <ubnoobtu> I'm using this irc through my  broswer
[19:39] <ubnoobtu> can I run this completely through a terminal?
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> ubnoobtu, I like hexchat, a terminal use is a bit more on gthe geek side.
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> the*
[19:40] <Ampelbein> !irssi | ubnoobtu
[19:40] <DarwinSurvivor> ubnoobtu: there are a few terminal-only irc clients (like irssi), though they are a bit more difficult to set up and use
[19:41] <Dr_Willis> i tend to use weechat for terminal based irc.
[19:41] <Dr_Willis> browser based irc - one of the worst ways to irc. ;)
[19:43] <lvleph> 6542Elf@
[19:43] <alfredo_> works
[19:43] <alfredo_> thanks a lot
[19:44] <lvleph> I appear to be having trouble with a hard drive
[19:44] <DarwinSurvivor> alfredo_: no problem
[19:44] <lvleph> but I am not sure how to diagnose the problem
[19:44] <lvleph> fsck fixed a bunch of erros
[19:44] <DarwinSurvivor> alfredo_: feel free to play around with the command and see what else you can get it to do
[19:44] <lvleph> errors*
[19:45] <lvleph> and SMART says everything is fine
[19:45] <DarwinSurvivor> lvleph: are you familiar with S.M.A.R.T. tests?
[19:45] <lvleph> but the computer seems to freeze on IO
[19:45] <lvleph> DarwinSurvivor: Yes, just posted that SMART says things are good
[19:46] <DarwinSurvivor> lvleph: what level of test did you run?
[19:46] <lvleph> I don't like that there are 409 bad sectors but...
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, I installed weechat, how does it fire up?
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  wee<tab>  :)
[19:47] <lvleph> I ran short, but I am running extended now DarwinSurvivor
[19:47] <DarwinSurvivor> lvleph: what tests have you done to confirm that the crashes are being caused by IO?
[19:47] <alfredo_> thanks again from uruguay
[19:47] <lvleph> I said it appeared to be IO related, I am trying to figure out how to confirm this DarwinSurvivor
[19:47] <lvleph> which is my question
[19:47] <DarwinSurvivor> lvleph: also, how old is the machine, how long has this problem been happening and did it come quickly or slowly get worse over time?
[19:47] <lvleph> In fact, it only seems related to one partition
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, Cool thanks, looks like I will have to actually think with that one, lol. ;)
[19:48] <lvleph> Problem started when my daughter decided to push it off a table
[19:48] <lvleph> lol
[19:48] <DarwinSurvivor> lvleph: what are you doing that makes you think it is 1 partition? dd'ing a big file, reading large files...?
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  it has some decent user guides at its homepage.  it has what amounts to a 'package manager' tool built in for getting scripts also.
[19:48] <lvleph> Watching movies, rsync, etc
[19:48] <lvleph> only from the one partition
[19:48] <DarwinSurvivor> lvleph: oh, WELL then. step 1) have you opened it to make sure none of the cables are lose?
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, Thanks I was thinking of a manual that help. ;)
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> helps
[19:49] <lvleph> also, I can still use the system as long as it doesn't relate to that partition
[19:49] <lvleph> I believe I did
[19:49] <lvleph> I can't remember
[19:50] <lvleph> it has been a bad weekend for computer
[19:50] <lvleph> *s
[19:50] <DarwinSurvivor> lvleph: if that partition has mainly larger files (movies, etc) than your system partition, it may be "loading large" files that causes problems, not "loading files from that partition". Also, what error/problem are you encountering when you think you've triggered it?
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> so a single hard drive. with several partitions, accessing files on one partion of the hard drive causes the system to 'hang'  for several moments, then the computer resumes?
[19:50] <DarwinSurvivor> lvleph: is it kernel panicing, videos appear corrupted, "cannot open file", etc?
[19:50] <lvleph> DarwinSurvivor: What tends to happen is the process that is accessing the partition (large files) locks for minutes
[19:51] <reisio> Dr_Willis: slow rpm?
[19:51] <Dr_Willis> monitoring the tail end of 'dmesg' as you are accessing files Might give some info messages about whats going on.
[19:51] <DarwinSurvivor> lvleph: If you stick your ear against the machine do you hear any strange ticks or clicks when accessing the problematic files?
[19:52] <lvleph> No weird sounds
[19:52] <lvleph> no spikes in temp
[19:52] <Dr_Willis> if its hanging for several Minutes - well.. it sounds like the hd is in a state of failing.  reguardless of what smart says.
[19:52] <lvleph> In fact, the thing is too quiet.
[19:52] <guntbert> !enter | lvleph
[19:52] <Dr_Willis> dmesg Might give a clue if theres any io errors or other problems.
[19:53] <savid> My bash completion is messed up. When I type, for example, "grep --exclude-dir=/ho",  and hit tab,  it changes the line to "grep /home".  It removes the argument flag. Anyone know what could cause this/
[19:54] <Dr_Willis> savid:  Hmm . it seems to work correctly here..  what ubuntu release?
[19:54] <lvleph> Dr_Willis: dmesg doesn't really give me any clues
[19:54] <lvleph> I am completely baffled
[19:54] <savid> Dr_Willis, 12.10
[19:54] <DarwinSurvivor> lvleph: have you tried using iostat?
[19:54] <lvleph> I am guess the drive is failing, but the fact that it is one partition seems weird
[19:55] <savid> Dr_Willis, it also seems to happen with the "dd" command. That is, "dd if=/ho<tab>" changes to "dd /home".
[19:55] <DarwinSurvivor> lvleph: if there was physical damage done to the disk (need hit, etc), it could be localised to a partition (partitions are actually created as physical "areas" of the disk
[19:56] <lvleph> good point DarwinSurvivor
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> savid:  Hmm.. well its working right here. but im on 13.04
[19:56] <savid> Dr_Willis, any idea what could cause it to happen, though? Or where I can look?
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> savid:  i tested on box #2  and it worked.. but im not sure ifits a 12.10 or 13.04 box. its in mid release upgrade at the moment
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> savid:  theres the bash completion rules in /etc/
[19:57] <Dr_Willis> savid:  try making a new user. and see if it affects them also
[19:57] <lvleph> For the iostat are you suggesting to run it when things are locked?
[19:57] <DarwinSurvivor> lvleph: iostat -d 2
[19:57] <DarwinSurvivor> lvleph: run that for 30 seconds or so, then cause a "lockup" and see what changes
[19:57] <DarwinSurvivor> the 30 seconds is to get a base-line (all systems are different, so it's the "change" that is most important)
[19:59] <savid> Dr_Willis, ah, good idea. I'll try that.
[20:01] <DarwinSurvivor> lvleph: note that if the extended test is still running, it may interfere with stats...
[20:01] <savid> Dr_Willis, yep seems to be system-wide, happens for a new user as well.
[20:01] <lvleph> I killed the test
[20:01] <lvleph> it seemed to be locked DarwinSurvivor
[20:03] <savid> Ok, seems to be something in /etc/bash_completion.d, as moving that directory fixes the problem. At least I've narrowed it down. Thanks!
[20:03] <DarwinSurvivor> savid: try moving individual files inside that directory. once you find the culprit, find out which package owns it (dpkg -S) then do an apt-get --reinstall of that package
[20:04] <shere_khan_> ich such das lied?
[20:04] <shere_khan_> sorry, false thread
[20:04] <junktext> I just sent my $50 to the Ubuntu Edge campaign!  The project better succeed.  I want my new t-shirt!
[20:04] <guntbert> junktext: that has nothing to do with ubuntu support
[20:05] <junktext> So, supporting Ubuntu financially has nothing to do with supporting Ubuntu?
[20:06] <lvleph> weird I can't even get nautilus to open
[20:06] <guntbert> junktext: in this channel we give support to ubuntu users
[20:06] <lvleph> could not register the application: timeout was reached
[20:06] <lvleph> I have never even seen that before
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> junktext, #ubuntu-touch is your nirvana. ;)
[20:08] <DarwinSurvivor> lvleph: have you done a memtest since the "fall"? I've found bad or mis-seated ram can emulate all sorts of hardware problems. I ended up reinstalling 3 operating systems on a machine of mine before finding out it was a ram stick that died on me...
[20:09] <mobile> anyone know anything about wifi channels
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> beside a cotton shirt
[20:09] <lvleph> I think I am going to crack this thing open
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> !anyone | mobile
[20:09] <lvleph> I know with the Macbook that fell this morning it was the ram
[20:09] <lvleph> like I said it has been a bad weekend for computers
[20:09] <DarwinSurvivor> lvleph: sounds like a good idea. check all cables and mount points as well as ram/cpu attachment.
[20:10] <lvleph> Lost 2.1TB of data this weekend too
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> mobile, Give the channel you issue with details if you can . ;)
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> your*
[20:11] <DarwinSurvivor> lvleph: lol, time to put a guard-rail around your desks :P
[20:11] <mobile> cause its easier to get a reply that way to a confusing question. but ok. channels 1 6 and 11 dont overlap, which is easy to understand, but what about the rest of the channels inbetween like channel 2, doesnt that overlap with 1?
[20:11] <DarwinSurvivor> lvleph: also, back up EVERYTHING next chance you get!
[20:12] <lvleph> Unfortunately, I had to ditch my backup solution since I moved half-way-round the world.
[20:12] <ubnoobtu> i've decided none of the hardware I have is good to run it in a virtual box.
[20:12] <lvleph> Otherwise I wouldn't have lost any data.
[20:12] <wilee-nilee> mobile, Not a channel norm though that is your own reality, not a shred one.
[20:12] <wilee-nilee> shared
[20:12] <mobile> what?
[20:13] <DarwinSurvivor> lvleph: darn. time to order some HDD's and open a safety deposit box (safest place to store backup HDD's)
[20:14] <streulma> ubuntu and retina's... not so good so far, back to my Mac :)
[20:15] <lvleph> too late now, at least my research is backed up in multiple places.
[20:15] <lvleph> I have, I think, 4 backups.
[20:15] <reisio> streulma: I read that 13.10 fixes retina issues
[20:16] <reisio> streulma: 13.04, even
[20:16] <streulma> reisio: really ?
[20:16] <reisio> yes
[20:16] <reisio> http://randomtutor.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-retina.html
[20:16] <guntbert> mobile: I fail to see how that is an ubuntu suport question
[20:16] <reisio> via the links at the end of this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[20:16] <streulma> yes, yes, but the screen is at 2280 px
[20:17] <streulma> to high for me reisio :D
[20:17] <reisio> streulma: clearly you didn't even read the link I went to the trouble of providing you :p
[20:17]  * reisio goes back to work
[20:17] <savid> Dr_Willis, found the culprit.  It was the completion script installed by npm. :-P
[20:18] <guntbert> savid: time for a bug report then
[20:19] <billyroebuck> how can I set up my ubuntu machine so that localhost (/var/www) uses a folder on my Desktop (so I don't have to worry about permissions/etc) ?
[20:19] <billyroebuck> (im a complete newbie)
[20:19] <mobile> it is because ive been having trouble connecting from ub to my router with reason 6. guess its congestion, so i kinda need the right channel, and to understand them a bit better
[20:19] <savid> Would anyone be willing to test this for 13.04 real quick?  "sudo apt-get install npm",  then try "grep --exclude-dir=/ho<tab>"
[20:20] <k1l_> mobile: better see a hardware or networking channel for that question. see alis
[20:20] <k1l_> !alis | mobile
[20:20] <guntbert> mobile: without going into details: try to use channel as afar apart as possible - never use adjacent ones
[20:21] <Nothing_Much> Does anybody know how to get mono audio working with just ALSA?
[20:21] <syko> Nothing_Much: pulseaudio is better.
[20:21] <reisio> Nothing_Much: you don't want stereo?
[20:21] <mobile> ok
[20:21] <Nothing_Much> I only have 1 speaker
[20:22] <Nothing_Much> and Pulseaudio crashes Steam for some reason
[20:22] <Nothing_Much> So I have to use only Alsa
[20:22] <reisio> if you only have 1 speaker, then it's already mono :p
[20:22] <Nothing_Much> not with just Alsa
[20:22] <reisio> hrmm?
[20:25] <guntbert> billyroebuck: the correct solution is to add your user to the group www-data:    sudo adduser billy www-data   (or you can do it with "users and groups" graphically), then log out and log in again and you will be able to work in /var/www)
[20:26] <kriskropd> does anyone here know of a program like 'fdupes' that can find "similar" but not necessarily perfectly "duplicate" files?
[20:27] <jrib> kriskropd: no, but how do you define "similar"?
[20:29] <Nothing_Much> So how do I get Mono sound working?
[20:29] <Nothing_Much> With just ALSA?
[20:29] <ubnoobtu> how do i set up a seperate partition
[20:30] <kriskropd> jrib: for instance, with images, one file may have artifacts or lower quality or smaller resolution, but essentially it is the same or nearly the same image/file
[20:30] <abiss27> \whois abiss27
[20:32] <DarwinSurvivor> Nothing_Much: there is a #mono channel on irc.gnome.org that will probably be able to answer that better than us
[20:32] <kriskropd> jrib: I'm trying to do what these applications do but from a bash script (http://alternativeto.net/software/similarimages/)
[20:33] <Dr_Willis> Err.. i dont think he ment the MONO language. ;)
[20:33] <Dr_Willis> he wants to remap stero sound into mono output.
[20:33] <lvleph> DarwinSurvivor: My wife had said something about the DVD not seated correctly, but didn't mention it wasn't working. Thing had come completely unseated and wasn't even connected. lol
[20:34] <DarwinSurvivor> Dr_Willis: Nothing_Much: oh, my bad, I read that differently. lol
[20:34] <DarwinSurvivor> lvleph: lol. anything else loose?
[20:34] <Dr_Willis> DarwinSurvivor:  :)  gotta love the horriable names companies and people have been using for projects lately, .net, mono, edge, touch,
[20:35] <lvleph> DarwinSurvivor didn't look straight so I took it out and put it back in.
[20:35] <lvleph> RAM*
[20:35] <DarwinSurvivor> lvleph: years ago I actually bought a brand-new (in the box) desktop machine and found out the first day they'd forgotten to connect the power cable to the 3.5" drive!
[20:35] <reisio> kriskropd: there is software for that, I don't know what it's called, though
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> ubnoobtu, You have a unallocated space, a screen shot of gparted would help in a imagebin, you will have to install gparted is all.
[20:35] <DarwinSurvivor> lvleph: that would *definitely* cause problems! do a memtest when you boot it up just to be sure
[20:36] <lvleph> Things seem to be a bit snappier now DarwinSurvivor
[20:36] <lvleph> hopefully this fixes all my issues, but i doubt it.
[20:36] <reisio> kriskropd: imagemagick has a way to calculate the 'differences' between images, too
[20:36] <lvleph> Forget the memtest
[20:36] <reisio> for a really brutal way of doing it, you could find them all and diff them all :p
[20:36] <triniboi> \quit
[20:36] <lvleph> forgot*
[20:37] <codephobic> hi
[20:37] <lvleph> Damn Macbook has a dent in it and it is actually warped now. DarwinSurvivor
[20:37] <lvleph> I had a RAM stick pop out randomly twice today.
[20:38] <billyroebuck> guntbert, i just saw your message, thanks!
[20:38] <guntbert> billyroebuck: You're welcome
[20:38] <ubnoobtu> gparted, isnt the g\\ uh edittor?
[20:38] <DarwinSurvivor> lvleph: yeah, macbooks tend to dent instead of crack. you can usually straighten them out with pliers (friend of mine had to do that a couple times after dropping his)
[20:38] <codephobic> anyone been experiencing soundcard issues of late in ubuntu 13.04? for some reason, occasionally the audio out gets set to "dummy output" and there is no sound driver available.
[20:38] <lvleph> This one fell 2m lol
[20:39] <q236> hi, I want to install ubuntu on a portable hdd and use it on multiple computers, with different motherboards, can I do that, or should I stick to a live installation, and add things I need alongside?
[20:39] <lvleph> good thing for the auto drive lock
[20:39] <ubnoobtu> I used pulsaaudio in 12.04
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> ubnoobtu, ? use nicks please?
[20:39] <guntbert> lvleph: back to ubuntu support please
[20:39] <q236> (last time I did that with windows, it did not work out that well)
[20:40] <lvleph> I miss the way the Ubuntu IRC was in the early days
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> q236, externals even a usb 3 will run slow, use a usb flash with a full install.
[20:40] <lvleph> much more lax
[20:40] <ubnoobtu> wilinee | I'm sorry, brb.
[20:41] <billyroebuck> guntbert ... i ran that command... (note: localhost was already working for me)
[20:41] <q236> wilee-nilee: I kind of need alot of space.
[20:41] <guntbert> lvleph: there is #ubuntu-offtopic ...
[20:41] <lvleph> I know
[20:41] <billyroebuck> guntbert, but I was hoping to be able to manage files (E.g. through filezilla) without having to run it as sudo
[20:41] <guntbert> billyroebuck: that is the purpose, you have to log out/log in before it will take
[20:42] <billyroebuck> guntbert, of ubuntu ?
[20:42] <q236> wilee-nilee: but I would like to know if I can plug it in other computers and wether it will work or not...
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> q236, A live installation does not fit that picture can you possibly make sense? ;)
[20:42] <guntbert> billyroebuck: yes
[20:42] <billyroebuck> okay cheers brb ;)
[20:42] <DarwinSurvivor> q236: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[20:42] <q236> wilee-nilee: I thought you could customize it.. like that link from DarwinSurvivor
[20:42] <lvleph> typically a login logout cycle isn't needed in linux
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> q236, Soemtimes yes sometomes no depends on the hardware really.
[20:43] <lvleph> it may be easier than the required command sequence but...
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> q236, I put them in ignore a while back to much garbage.
[20:43] <guntbert> lvleph: in this case it is necessary, group membership is only applied on log in
[20:43] <lvleph> I am always weary of instructions that include a reboot
[20:43] <guntbert> lvleph: no reboot - just log out/in
[20:43] <lvleph> you're right guntbert
[20:44] <guntbert> :)
[20:44] <lvleph> I was just mentioning my aversion to reboots
[20:44] <q236> oh well, thanks, guess I will stick to a live installation
[20:45] <billyroebuck> guntbert, I restarted my Ubuntu VM... opened filezilla, but I still can't create folders in /var/www
[20:45] <billyroebuck> (i'd like to be able to do that, or have a 'sites' folder on my desktop that I can work in)
[20:45] <guntbert> billyroebuck: filezilla?? I thought we were talking about the localhost?
[20:45] <lvleph> do a ls -l on /var/www
[20:46] <lvleph> and make sure the user and group are correct
[20:46] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: are you running filezilla on the same machine as the web server...?
[20:47] <guntbert> billyroebuck: send the result of what lvleph said into a !pastebin and tell the channel the URL
[20:47] <billyroebuck> lvleph,  i see www-data on the folders in my /var/www dir
[20:47] <billyroebuck> DarwinSurvivor, yep all the same machine
[20:47] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: as the user or the group? (or both?)
[20:47] <billyroebuck> sorry im a bit slow ;)
[20:47] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: no need to use filezilla to access local files, that's for ftp and sftp (remote systems)
[20:47] <lvleph> the problem billyroebuck is that it would have to be accessible by ftp group
[20:48] <lvleph> the current and default group is www-data
[20:48] <DarwinSurvivor> lvleph: actually, ftp (if using system accounts for login) will inherit the groups assigned to the user you log in as
[20:48] <lvleph> good point DarwinSurvivor
[20:48] <billyroebuck> http://pastebin.com/ZzkfReU9
[20:49] <lvleph> so just add the user to www-data group
[20:49] <Rickky> Morning
[20:49] <reisio> 'lo
[20:49] <guntbert> lvleph: I leave you with the issue - bedtime :-))  (I had him add himself already)
[20:49] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: you have some directories owned by root in there, are those files/directories *you* created or were they installed by something eles?
[20:49] <billyroebuck> I ran " sudo adduser billy www-data" before... you're referring to the FTP user though
[20:50] <lvleph> and this is the user you are using in filezilla?
[20:50] <DarwinSurvivor> if *you* put them in, then do a "sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/" to fix your current permissions problem
[20:50] <billyroebuck> apart from index.html (created by apache), I created the rest.... maybe after running sudo -s
[20:50] <guntbert> billyroebuck: aah - you should use your user name for that command - my bad
[20:50] <lvleph> whatever the user is for filezilla will have to be added to that group billyroebuck
[20:51] <billyroebuck> my user = billy
[20:51] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: sudo -s would make you root, which means any files you create/copy will also be owned by root (and thus un-editable by you when not root)
[20:51] <lvleph> hmmm
[20:51] <billyroebuck> im running FileZilla from Unity
[20:51] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: if you are on the same machine, why are you using filezilla? Just open the directory with your filebrowser or editor directly...
[20:52] <lvleph> also, having the index.html as root:root will make in inaccessible from the web. billyroebuck
[20:52] <billyroebuck> DarwinSurvivor, http://pastebin.com/g6Px5GT9
[20:52] <Nothing_Much> Uh..
[20:52] <Nothing_Much> Mono sound enabling? Anyone?
[20:52] <lvleph> I would run sudo chown www-data:www-data index.html
[20:53] <lvleph> I actually have to go to bed too
[20:53] <kingpin8080> Can someone tell why ubuntu will not resolve a hostname.  I have checked the resolve.conf and it is fine.
[20:53] <lvleph> so later
[20:53] <billyroebuck> to go back a step, I created an Ubuntu VM, installed LAMP, etc... and localhost is working... if i put a folder/files in there, they load in the browser...
[20:53] <kingpin8080> I was working then it stop
[20:53] <kingpin8080> It was working then it stop
[20:54] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: lvleph actually, index.html will work fine because it is world-readable, you'll just have to be root to edit or delete it
[20:54] <billyroebuck> i want to be able to create files/folders in there (either thru Nautilus or FileZilla)
[20:54] <billyroebuck> if I browse to var/www in Nautilus, I can't create folders (same for FileZilla)
[20:55] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: are you going to need to edit/create files from another machine (remotely)?
[20:55] <qin> billyroebuck: just chown whole www folder to yourself, or better put in your /home/$USER
[20:55] <billyroebuck> nope. it's just a simple local dev environment where ill be FTPing stuff up to a server (or downloading from a FTP server to the machine)
[20:56] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: then don't worry about filezilla and I'd disable/remove the ftp server for security reasons.
[20:56] <billyroebuck> DarwinSurvivor, maybe im missing something (like my brain for example) but its just the FileZilla client
[20:56] <qin> billyroebuck: yeah, ftp is bad thing
[20:56] <DarwinSurvivor> you'll only need filezilla to access your remote ftp server (although I would *STRONGLY* recommend using something else like sftp if you can)
[20:57] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: for editing the local files, just use your filemanager
[20:57] <billyroebuck> should I do what qin said... ?
[20:57] <qin> billyroebuck: sshfs is as simple as secure (if asked)
[20:57] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: I would chown all of the stuff *in* www to your user, but leave www owned by www-data
[20:58] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: "sudo chown -R billy:billy /var/www/*"
[20:59] <billyroebuck> but then how would I create a new folder in /var/www ?
[20:59] <billyroebuck> I basically want a folder that I can use with the logged in user, billy, for all my web-dev stuff
[20:59] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: the www folder is owned by the www-data group and writable by anyone in that group (which you should be the next time you log in)
[20:59] <billyroebuck> DarwinSurvivor, I added billy to the www-data group earlier, but it doesn't look like i can write to the folder
[21:00] <billyroebuck> billy@ubuntu:/var/www$ mkdir test
[21:00] <billyroebuck> mkdir: cannot create directory `test': Permission denied
[21:00] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: for you to actually become a member of the group, you will need to log out and back in again (to Unity). You do not need to reboot the machine, just log out
[21:00] <billyroebuck> (i shutdown the whole VM and powered it up again)
[21:00] <DarwinSurvivor> VM.....?
[21:00] <billyroebuck> thanks heaps for your help guys, i really appreciate it
[21:01] <billyroebuck> I'm running Ubuntu as a VM via VMWare on a Windows 7 host
[21:01] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: is the "localhost" machine running in a VM...?
[21:01] <billyroebuck> I start my VM, open my browser and go to localhost, and Apache is working fine... I'm just trying to make it easier to manage my sites
[21:02] <billyroebuck> with the 'billy' user
[21:02] <DarwinSurvivor> so you are logged into the host operating system (which OS is this by the way..?) and then run apache in a VM (which I'm assuming is the Ubuntu machine).
[21:03] <DarwinSurvivor> are you doing your development in the VM, or on the host machine then moving the files to the VM?
[21:03] <billyroebuck> I think I'm confusing you guys...  I have a Win7 machine running  Ubuntu on a VM via VMware ... on the Ubuntu VM I have everything.. my files, programs, LAMP, etc and it's working fine..
[21:03] <billyroebuck> DarwinSurvivor, everything on the VM
[21:03] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: ok, but are you doing the actual file editing in Windows or in Ubuntu?
[21:04] <billyroebuck> everything in Ubuntu
[21:04] <rafaelsoaresbr> please help me adding this PPA: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer
[21:04] <DarwinSurvivor> ok, nevermind then.
[21:04] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: what can you copy/paste the output of "id" from the VM terminal?
[21:05] <DarwinSurvivor> and then pastebin the output of "ls -la /var/www" (note the a this time)
[21:05] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: sorry, that should be "ls -la /var/www/" (with the trailing slash)
[21:05] <billyroebuck> http://pastebin.com/f5xFB9D0
[21:06] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: that doesn't have the "a" in "-la"
[21:06] <DarwinSurvivor> oh, my bad, wrong link :P
[21:06] <DarwinSurvivor> ok, you are in the www-data group. let's see what the ls command shows :)
[21:06] <billyroebuck> DarwinSurvivor,  http://pastebin.com/wVS0U7g5
[21:07] <billyroebuck> i owe you guys a beer
[21:07] <DarwinSurvivor> aha, www isn't group writable, that would be your problem right there
[21:07] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: sudo chmod 775 /var/www
[21:08] <billyroebuck> DarwinSurvivor, thanks, that did it
[21:08] <billyroebuck> I can create a folder from FileZilla, but not via Nautilus
[21:09] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: good to hear. I recommend doing some reading on how Unix permissions work (rwx, etc). You will most likely find it *very* useful in the future.
[21:09] <billyroebuck> yeah... i studied this stuff at uni 10 years ago but its all gone
[21:10] <billyroebuck> i just had to restart nautilus, i can manage files now...
[21:10] <billyroebuck> thanks everyone...!
[21:10] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: good luck with your web development
[21:10] <billyroebuck> cheers
[21:11] <billyroebuck>  DarwinSurvivor - thanks... yeah I'm making the transition from Windows to Ubuntu (my background is with .NET and M/S) ... here's the new site I'm working on with Drupal/drush/etc - http://meowzen.com/pac
[21:11] <billyroebuck> )
[21:11] <DarwinSurvivor> rafaelsoaresbr: for background information, why do you think you need that ppa?
[21:12] <HAWiese> Moin, moin!
[21:12] <HAWiese> Moin, moin!
[21:12] <rafaelsoaresbr> DarwinSurvivor: i want to install fglrx-installer package from there
[21:13] <DarwinSurvivor> rafaelsoaresbr: is the default fglrx package not working for some reason?
[21:13] <rafaelsoaresbr> DarwinSurvivor: it's not working, already tried. I have had to chroot to repair my system
[21:14] <billyroebuck> last question - how can I create a shortcut from my Desktop to my /var/www folder?
[21:14] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: "ln -s /var/www/ ~/Desktop/name_of_then_link_here"
[21:15] <rafaelsoaresbr> DarwinSurvivor: following intructions from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[21:15] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: you can also hold "alt" and drag the folder to your desktop and chose "as link"
[21:16] <billyroebuck> DarwinSurvivor, thanks for the alt tip, worked!
[21:16] <DarwinSurvivor> rafaelsoaresbr: on second look, I don't think that's a PPA. try just doing "sudo apt-get install fglrx-installer"
[21:16] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: no problem
[21:16] <billyroebuck> thanks qin, lvleph !
[21:16] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: just a side note, unlike windows links, you can actually work inside the link as if it were a directory "ex: gedit ~/Desktop/www/index.html" :)
[21:17] <billyroebuck> cool
[21:17] <bigbadben> Hey if I want to make a desktop app what is the best way to do it?
[21:17] <DarwinSurvivor> bigbadben: what language do you want to use?
[21:18] <rafaelsoaresbr> DarwinSurvivor: understood, what about this? https://launchpad.net/~khurshid-alam/+archive/xorg-edgers
[21:18] <bigbadben> python
[21:18] <reisio> bigbadben: do you want handheld devices to be able to use it?
[21:19] <reisio> desktop as a paradigm is changing
[21:19] <DarwinSurvivor> rafaelsoaresbr: I would try all of the packages in the actual repository first (as the #ubuntu channel doesn't support 3rd party PPA's). If however you REALLY need to install it, there are instructions on the page you linked to
[21:19] <bigbadben> DarwinSurvivor, reisio, I guess
[21:19] <reisio> bigbadben: make yourself a python backend and a web UI
[21:19] <reisio> that'll minimize the porting you'll have to do
[21:20] <DarwinSurvivor> bigbadben: if you want something actually "desktop", look at pyqt, pygtk and pytk
[21:20] <rafaelsoaresbr> DarwinSurvivor: i really wanted to use oficial repositories, but actually it is not working. :-(
[21:20] <bigbadben> well the real reason I ask is because there is a old app out there that no longer works and I want to make it work on 13.04 but I dont know where to start
[21:21] <reisio> bigbadben: which app?
[21:21] <DarwinSurvivor> bigbadben: unfortunately iPhones, Androids and Blackberrys all use their own programming language for native apps and porting is a PITA.
[21:21] <bigbadben> blubphone
[21:21] <reisio> you can use python for all those apps
[21:21] <reisio> there are packages that will bundle the interpreter for you
[21:21] <reisio> all those devices*
[21:21] <reisio> bigbadben: what is it?
[21:22] <bigbadben> you set it up on your android and it forwards texts to your desktop then you can respond
[21:22] <CYR4N0> I'm tyring to get the nvidia proprietary drivers to work in 13.04. I was able to get passed the black screen with using the nomodeset setting. Now the nvidia drive doesn't seem to load and I get a very low resolution.
[21:22] <DarwinSurvivor> bigbadben: do you need to re-write both applications or just the desktop one (it looks like the system works by pairing an ubuntu application with an android app that talk to each other)
[21:22] <bigbadben> just the ubuntu one
[21:23] <reisio> bigbadben: mmm
[21:23] <reisio> wouldn't it be simpler to just take your mobile messaging out of the equation altogether?
[21:23] <reisio> and send messages over the network alone?
[21:23] <reisio> cheaper, too
[21:23] <bigbadben> reisio, what do you mean?
[21:24] <reisio> this app helps you send a message from your desktop to your phone, which then sends to whomever
[21:24] <reisio> why not just send from your desktop directly to whomever
[21:24] <DarwinSurvivor> bigbadben: do you know what language the original application is written in?
[21:25] <bigbadben> well the part I like about it is every time I get a txt it pops up on my desktop then I just type my response and contuie working then my hands never have to leave the keyboard
[21:25] <bigbadben> *continue
[21:25] <reisio> I get it, it's just backwards
[21:25] <bigbadben> gtk2.0+ I guess?
[21:26] <reisio> just tell your friends to use skype or something, and then you take the text messaging of your phone entirely out of the equation
[21:26] <reisio> you can even use such software on your phone as well
[21:27] <bigbadben> reisio, there are other applications out there but this is one I want to work on and make better your missing the point of my question
[21:27] <reisio> no I get it :p
[21:27] <reisio> you want what you had
[21:27] <reisio> I'm just saying it could be better, and it's kind of a waste of time :D
[21:28] <DarwinSurvivor> bigbadben: have you tried approaching the developer? He may not know that it is broken and could just fix it for you.
[21:29] <reisio> or he's just working on the new version
[21:29] <reisio> it works for 12
[21:29] <reisio> 13 is still pretty new
[21:29] <reisio> I'm not seeing any source code, though
[21:29] <reisio> another reason to not tie yourself to this app
[21:32] <bigbadben> I have talked to the dev and he is on holiday till September, I offered some help but anyway the code is not that complicated. Every time I try to run it though I get a "warning" in python and it seems to be a bug in ubuntu
[21:33] <billyroebuck> DarwinSurvivor, how can I update all the files in my www folder (and subdirectories) so that I'm the owner
[21:33] <billyroebuck> right now its a bit of a mix and a mess
[21:34] <peterrooney> billyroebuck: chown -R is your friend
[21:34] <DarwinSurvivor> billyroebuck: "sudo chown -R billy:billy /var/www/*"
[21:34] <billyroebuck> what does the second 'billy' do ?
[21:35] <jrib> billyroebuck: group
[21:35] <reisio> second is group
[21:35] <billyroebuck> jrib , reisio - thanks !
[21:35] <billyroebuck> that worked DarwinSurvivor  - thanks... no more padlocks :)
[21:36] <billyroebuck> you're right though, I need to brush up on UNIX permissions
[21:36] <newbie1234> Hello all
[21:47] <egust21> could anyone help me create a bootable USB using os x please?
[21:47] <egust21> I have done it many times before using the terminal but today I just seem to be creating unreadable disks
[21:49] <bandobun> hi, I've got a problem with my mouse. the cursor is randomly jumping to the edges, when i move it. it's not the mouse's fault
[21:49] <bandobun> any ideas? I'm not using vm either
[21:49] <Nasuga> bandobun, I had that problem myself. Are you using a laptop by chance?
[21:49] <bandobun> no
[21:49] <Nasuga> bandobun, ohh, never mind.
[21:50] <bandobun> it's killing me. i don't want to reinstall the system just for that annoying bug
[21:50] <Nasuga> bandobun, I was going to say it could be a problem with your touchpad but I'm out of ideas.
[21:50] <bandobun> but if i don't solve this, i'll smash the mouse against the wall and feel even worse :P
[21:50] <bluefox83> having some boot-time problems...no idea what to do >.>
[21:50] <egust21> I'd like to install ubuntu to begin with
[21:51] <papna> I'm using 12.04 and running metacity. I want pidgin to have its own system tray icon, but I can't seem to get it to be anything but under indicator applet.
[21:51] <papna> I've turned on displaying a system tray icon in the pidgin configiration settings
[21:51] <hayer> rTorrent starts before the fstab has mounted my NAS -- whats the best way to fix this? <_>
[21:52] <DarwinSurvivor> bandobun: what testing have you done to decide it's not the mouse's fault?
[21:52] <bandobun> i've attached it to a windows laptop
[21:52] <bekks> hayer: Dont start rtorrent automatically.
[21:52] <DarwinSurvivor> also, what surface are you using the mouse on (many mice, even expensive ones, don't work properly on some surfaces)
[21:53] <hayer> bekks: that is not a solution.
[21:53] <DarwinSurvivor> bandobun: have you tried another mouse on the problem machine?
[21:53] <bandobun> i only have this one, unfortunately
[21:54] <DarwinSurvivor> bandobun: has anything changed since it was working (installed/reinstalled ubuntu, moved computer to a new desk, ran an update, etc)
[21:54] <bandobun> i haven't used the computer in quite a while (3-4 months), then started it again and ran all the updates
[21:55] <bekks> hayer: Then create a wrapper script for starting rtorrent.
[21:56] <DarwinSurvivor> bandobun: was it working before you ran the updates?
[21:56] <bandobun> yes
[21:57] <trism> papna: the system tray icon would show up in the notification area, not the indicator applet, have you added the notification area to your panel?
[21:57] <hayer> bekks: links / pointers? Wrapper script doesn't tell me much..
[21:57] <bekks> hayer: a shell script that checks al prerequisites befor starting rtorrent.
[21:59] <bluefox83> rcpbind: cannot open '/run/rpcbind/rpcbind.xdr' file for reading errno 2 (no such file or directory)   I get that error on my server box when i boot it up, it wont go much further than that :(
[21:59] <bluefox83> it stops after deciding my main HD is clean and that's all it does...
[22:00] <bluefox83> also i get a mountall: Event failed error
[22:01] <DarwinSurvivor> bandobun: does the mouse feel sporadic and unpredictable, or just extremly fast and hard to control?
[22:01] <bandobun> the former
[22:02] <bandobun> like, i can move it in a circle and suddenly it's in the upper left corner
[22:02] <DarwinSurvivor> so if you move the mouse slightly left, it doesn't necessarily fly to the left?
[22:02] <bandobun> nope
[22:03] <DarwinSurvivor> and when you tested in on the windows machine, was the mouse physically in the same place (on the same desk/table)?
[22:03] <bbc581> You forgot to ask him if it was Wireless
[22:03] <bandobun> interesting. I've just increased the pointer sensitivity (it was strangely extremely low), and now it still happens, but just not as often. when i tested it on the laptop, the mouse was on the same spot. it's a cable mouse
[22:05] <bbc581> How old is the damn thing... It might be the dpi it sports
[22:05] <hayer> Can I use hostnames in my fstab file?
[22:05] <bandobun> also, sometimes when it jumpes into a corner, it can be difficult to get it back, as if it's fighting against me
[22:05] <Nasuga> bandobun: have you tried a different mouse?
[22:06] <bandobun> i only have this one
[22:06] <Nasuga> bandobun, try borrowing a mouse from a relative or a friend and see if you have the same problem.
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> hayer:  for what kind of share?  and what network setup? ive had issues using hostnames befor
[22:07] <bandobun> i'll probably buy one tomorrow. kind of isolated at the moment
[22:08] <DarwinSurvivor> hayer: yes you can, just make sure the entries are in your hosts file or you have a very reliable DNS server
[22:09] <DarwinSurvivor> bandobun: also try another usb port on the computer (if it's usb). unlikely but possible issue I've seen once or twice
[22:09] <bandobun> yep, tried that too
[22:10] <hayer> Dr_Willis: for a NFS share
[22:10] <hayer> DarwinSurvivor: Its the hostname of my NAS. Would that be "OK"?
[22:11] <Guest55988> need help resolving slow wireless file transfer between two computers in ad-hoc. my every day computer is a laptop connected to another in ad-hoc. when i  use it to download files from internet using bittorrent i get speeds up to 300 kB/sec. the other computer witch is connected to internet has a mobile modem. but when i transfer files between the two computers the transfer speed is almost slower than when i download from internet. '
[22:11] <DarwinSurvivor> hayer: how is the hostname resolved? (hosts file, dns server, router's dns, etc)?
[22:12] <hayer> DarwinSurvivor: Routers DNS, a pfsense box.
[22:13] <DarwinSurvivor> hayer: should work
[22:13] <DarwinSurvivor> hayer: if it's on a laptop, you'll see issues when connecting to other networks (NFS is notoriously difficult to unmount when the remote server is no longer accessible)
[22:13] <hayer> DarwinSurvivor: soo "stronghold01:/mnt/storage01 /mnt/stronghold01 nfs rw,hard,nolock,intr 0 0" ?  stronghold01 is the hostname.
[22:13] <DarwinSurvivor> hayer: but that's fstab specific, not hostname specific
[22:14] <DarwinSurvivor> hayer: yep, that's actually how I have my desktop configured
[22:15] <abaddon> Hey guys, I'm trying to get ePSXE1.8 to run my ps1 games in Ubu. If I launch the program with wine through terminal all is hunky dory. But when I launch it by clicking on the file issues arries where the program can't find the needed folders to run. I'm thinking it's a group issue where my user isn't in the correct Wine groups. Any thoughts?
[22:15] <bandobun> is there a general approach towards reinstalling the mouse driver or something like that?
[22:16] <columb> Why there is no widgets for unity?
[22:16] <papna> trism: That makes sense. I haven't and don't know how to add the notification area. I've tried to find some results on google, but they don't seem to work--I think some might be assuming I'm using unity.
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  make a script that cd's to where the binary is at. then runs it in wine.   then make a launcher that runs that script.   it dosent sound like a group issue to me.
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  i find wine to flakey to rely on double clicking the .exe files ;)
[22:18] <TannedVampire> i'm going to dual boot two os on my acer laptop.  I already have ubuntu.  So how do I put peppermint on the laptop?
[22:18] <trism> papna: alt+right click the panel in an open area
[22:18] <[DS]Matej> Hi I an new on unbuntu
[22:18] <papna> trism: Thanks!!!
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> TannedVampire:  if you are lucky - you resize the partions make room for pepermints /  then install it there. and its grub will HOPEFULLY see both disrtos and add them to the grub menu
[22:18] <[DS]Matej> One question is this free VPS or?
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> TannedVampire:  if you just want to test pepermint.. id just test it in virtualbox.
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> [DS]Matej:  what?   ubuntu is an OS - not a VPS.
[22:19] <[DS]Matej> Ok
[22:19] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  I know it's petty of my to want to double click but hey, it's faster at times. I didn't think of doing a script. hmmmm
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  i imagine its an issue with where the binary is being ran from more then anything else.
[22:19] <chrissey> and shouldn't peppermind offer a function to set up a dualboot?
[22:19] <TannedVampire> Dr_Willis: I resized partitions to make room for pepermints.  Should I leave unallocated space or make a new partition for it?
[22:20] <bluefox83> im having some serious boot-time issues, and I need some help figuring out what the problem really is....
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  many people have to  make scripts to do wine stuff because wine games like to exit and leave the resolution set wrong
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> TannedVampire:  depends on ther installer.. it shouldent matter - you just tell the installer what to do
[22:21] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  Location ould make sense if it hadn't been working fine a month ago.
[22:22] <chrissey> bluefox, how does your issues show?
[22:23] <TannedVampire> Dr_Willis:  oh okay.  when i install peppermint...it says it will overwrite ubuntu...so i choose to manually select a partition for peppermint
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  thats one of the quirks with wine.. wine versions, X version, even kernel versions can all cause issues when they change.
[22:23] <TannedVampire> then I click Install Now
[22:23] <abaddon> Dr_Willis, How would I go about creating the script? Would it be something like-- > #!/bin/bash cd /home/abaddon/Emulations/epsxe     THEN  wine ePSXe.exe?
[22:23] <bluefox83> chrissey: eh, i can't tell if it's stuck doing an fsck force check (says /dev/sda1 is 12.0% non-contiguous) or whether it;s a rcpbind issue
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  yep.
[22:23] <TannedVampire> then it says "no root filesystem is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu."
[22:24] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  Well that seems easy,lol I'll try it. Thanks
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  people often have to use such scripts with a xrandr command at the end to set a proper res.
[22:24] <cody_> hello
[22:24] <gumble> hey, I just read that kubuntu isn't made by canocial? so it is like competition? why doesn't ubuntu just implement the kde desktop?
[22:24] <reisio> 'lo
[22:24] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  Will report is it goes arry
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> TannedVampire:  you need to define where to put /
[22:24] <reisio> gumble: very little is _made_ by Canoniacl
[22:24] <reisio> Canonical*
[22:24] <bluefox83> chrissey: booting into the recovery mode doesn't help much, says everything is in read-only mode and trying to mount only messes it up again...
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> TannedVampire:  if this is all new to you. i suggest testing pepermint out in virtualbox instead.
[22:24] <reisio> gumble: Ubuntu is Debian GNU/Linux plus GNOME 3 plus Compiz plus Unity plus a few other things
[22:24] <chrissey> hmm
[22:24] <reisio> gumble: Kubuntu is Debian GNU/Linux plus KDE plus a few other things
[22:25] <reisio> all the stuff under KDE or GNOME should match, more or less
[22:25] <Kalel> Greetings.4
[22:25] <chrissey> bluefox:have you tried booting a live system, e. g. Knoppix or similar
[22:25] <gumble> reisio: it's sure more the debian + gnome
[22:25] <gumble> a lot more
[22:25] <cody_> im setting up a new install of irssi with ru torrent plugin and a bit confused...
[22:25] <reisio> gumble: uh, not as a percentage, no
[22:25] <bluefox83> chrissey: yeah the only one i had was one for my laptop which is for amd64 but the box in question is 32bit D:
[22:25] <reisio> cody_: about?
[22:25] <gumble> haha then debian just is linux reisio
[22:25] <reisio> gumble: hrmm?
[22:25] <cody_> im getting a port error in rutorrent
[22:26] <Kalel> I would like to install Kali in dual with my Raring and I want to keep the Ubuntu's grub. How can I Install without chage that?
[22:26] <cody_> it points me to .irssi/config
[22:26] <reisio> cody_: and the error is?
[22:26] <gumble> reisio: then debian just is linux + and de with your logic
[22:26] <gumble> * an de
[22:26] <cody_>  Error downloading files. Make sure autodl-irssi is started and configured properly (eg. password, port number): Error getting files listing: Error: Could not connect: (111) Connection refused
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  you may need to boot back to ubuntu the first time and rerun 'update-grub' from ubuntu.
[22:26] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  would I type exit 0 at the end?
[22:26] <reisio> gumble: and GNU, and a package manager, yes
[22:26] <k1l_> gumble: kubuntu was a sponsored by canonical community distro. now the sponsor changed but its still a community distro in the ubuntu family
[22:26] <gumble> reisio: you can't say ubuntu is nothing/ sure debian is a lot more then ubuntu
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> Kalel:  or tell kali to not  install grub to the mbr.
[22:26] <reisio> gumble: I could say that, but I haven't
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  thats the proper way to end a script. ;)
[22:26] <chrissey> bluefox, can you get a x86 version maybe on a thumbdriver or any other media, your pc can boot from?
[22:27] <chrissey> *thumbdrive
[22:27] <gumble> reisio: well you did say ubuntu is not much more then debian
[22:27] <Kalel> Ok, Dr_Willis.
[22:27] <k1l_> and for more talk about that we got the #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss channels
[22:27] <TannedVampire> Dr_Willis: Thanks.  I put / on it.  I don't need virtualbox.  I just use my laptop for fun.
[22:27] <k1l_> @ gumble and reisio ^
[22:27] <reisio> gumble: it isn't
[22:27] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  XD I've only written one script and that was for installing a LOT of repos and ptrograms. =p thx
[22:27] <reisio> k1l_: mmm
[22:27] <bluefox83> chrissey: yeah but it'll take time to dl, i was hoping we could figure something out a faster way?
[22:28] <pieguy123> hello. does anyone know how to install norton on ubuntu, via wine?
[22:28] <cody_> any tips on the connection refused error?
[22:28] <qin>  pieguy123 huh?
[22:28] <gumble> k1l_: still don't understand why it wouldn't be wiser for can. to just implement kde/xfce and stuff and shut down the competition
[22:28] <pieguy123> qin: i'm trying to install norton antivirus
[22:28] <k1l_> pieguy123: why do you want to install an antivirus software in wine?
[22:28] <chrissey> hmm
[22:28] <pieguy123> incase i get a virus
[22:28] <qin> !av
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> TannedVampire:  just skimmed the peppermint linux site/docs.. and well..i dont see the point. ;) but have fun
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> pieguy123:  your not going to get a virus.
[22:29] <vJk7Rp> qin, very bad def
[22:29] <reisio> and if you did, Norton inside Wine wouldn't help much
[22:29] <k1l_> gumble: its not a competition, its an addition. but see my remarks to the other discussion channels to keep this channel to technical support, thanks
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> pieguy123:  biggest danger to a Ubuntu/Linux box - is tyhe end  user doing somthing stupid i find..
[22:29] <gumble> reisio: maybe as a percentage. still we have very different opinions here
[22:29] <qin> vJk7Rp: hm? elaborate?
[22:29] <chrissey> what is about the media, you installed ubuntu from?
[22:29] <bluefox83> chrissey: is there something we can try from the grub boot menu?
[22:29] <Guest0444> :)
[22:30] <bluefox83> chrissey: oh, i wiped that thumb drive and put another version (the one for x64) on there a long time ago
[22:30] <vJk7Rp> there are linux exploits and cross platform malware
[22:30] <chrissey> maybe you could try disabling fsck in grub, but i dont know how
[22:30] <bluefox83> i wonder if i have an old knoppix cd O.o
[22:31] <vJk7Rp> qin, and after all stupid users with root priviledges...
[22:31] <TannedVampire> Dr_Willis: it works!  peppermint is installing at this moment.  Thank you!
[22:31] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  It says wine: cannot find L"C:\\windows\\system32\\ePSXEe.exe" when i launch it from terminal
[22:32] <rypervenche> abaddon: Why don't you use a better PS1 emulator?
[22:32] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  I was checking to see why it wasn't running.
[22:32] <abaddon> rypervenche,  what would you recommend? I frankly like ePSXe...when it works.
[22:33] <rypervenche> abaddon: One sec, I'll get you teh name.
[22:34] <chrissey> bluefox: after some research, you have to add "fastboot" to the kernel options, that are passed to the kernel
[22:34] <rypervenche> abaddon: http://psxemulator.gazaxian.com/
[22:34] <abaddon> rypervenche,  Dr_Willis  I know there are linux versions out there just so you guys know. But I find they don't stay in a single folder unlike the window versions.
[22:34] <bluefox83> chrissey: how do i do that?'
[22:34] <abaddon> rypervenche,  thx, will look at it
[22:35] <chrissey> wbvluefox, when you boot up your pc, does grub show its menu?
[22:36] <abaddon> rypervenche,  psx emu is less feature rich compared to epsxe. They intend it to be EXACTLY like ps1. Which is...well...errr...not too great at times
[22:36] <bluefox83> chrissey: yep
[22:36] <rypervenche> abaddon: Well, if you want something that just works without plugins or anything, then that's the way to go.
[22:37] <chrissey> then  there is a text under the menu, you press the key that is mapped to 'edit'
[22:37] <bluefox83> k
[22:37] <abaddon> rypervenche, that's the thing, it didn't for me. No joke, tried it today while i was considering dumping epsxe. the video is buggy and sound blips weirdly. I record game sessions so need it to work nearly flawlessly.
[22:37] <bluefox83> where do i put the fastboot option?
[22:38] <chrissey> so you are now in this edit-menu?
[22:38] <bluefox83> yes
[22:38] <rypervenche> abaddon: Well it's up to you. Do you want plugins and features for an emulator that doesn't work, or do you want to be able to play your PS1 games?
[22:39] <abaddon> rypervenche,  epsxe has been the only one to do that. I can run it fine through terminal it's just lame that I'd have to is all.
[22:39] <chrissey> now you select the line that begins with 'linux'
[22:40] <bluefox83> like: linux /vmlinux-3.2.0-48-generic-pae root=/dev/mapper/Ubuntu--server-\ root ro
[22:41] <chrissey> yep
[22:41] <bluefox83> ok...so where in that line do i put the fastboot option?
[22:41] <chrissey> yep
[22:42] <abaddon> rypervenche, I know, lame that i'll create a script but not use terminal. =p
[22:42] <abaddon> Anyway, Dr_Willis  any ideas as to what's up with the error?
[22:42] <bluefox83> chrissey: at the end? i'm really new to tinkering with this stuff...
[22:43] <chrissey> so you appended 'fastboot' to the line?
[22:44] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  how are you launching it from the command line exactly?
[22:45] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  well, the bash file i just type bash epsxe.sh it wasn't opening with clicks so was troubleshooting through terminal. =P
[22:46] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  so you are IN the current directory where  the .exe is at
[22:46] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  try it from a differnt location givieng the full path to the .exe
[22:46] <chrissey> bluefox?
[22:46] <bluefox83> chrissey: yes?
[22:47] <chrissey> so you appended 'fastboot' to the line?
[22:47] <bluefox83> oh nice, it kicked me into busybox >.>
[22:48] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  I cd to my home dir a typed bash /home/abaddon/Emulation/ePSXe1.8/epsxe.sh same error comes up
[22:49] <bluefox83> chrissey: what should i do? it kicked me into a busybox initramfs and i have no idea what to do >.>
[22:50] <chrissey> errm, could you enter mount and give me the output? (maybe over pastebin -> excess flood)
[22:50] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  the exe when run from terminal works fine. My bash script doesn't when ether in the same dir or another .
[22:51] <InFlames> my 13.04 seems to be having a dns issue, can someone help me out? i can ping ups, but not domains, however, other machines on the network can still use the web as bormal
[22:51] <InFlames> normal*
[22:51] <InFlames> ips*
[22:51] <bluefox83> there are only 4 rootft on / type rootfs (rw), sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime). proc on /proc (same as sysfs). udev and devpts
[22:51] <rzeka> Which VPN service should I use to get VPN access (hm?) and to get my ip visible as server's ip?
[22:51] <bluefox83> oh and tmpfs
[22:51] <willows> Sometimes random status messages like "Initializing video... Video Mode: 512 x 448..." will appear in terminal. Is there a way to make it so terminal (and particularly Vim) doesn't display these messages?
[22:53] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  paste the script and error to pastebin for the channel to look at.
[22:54] <chrissey> bluefox?
[22:54] <abaddon> !pastebin
[22:54] <bluefox83> chrissey: yes? i'm not typing all that out. it's a bit much and i'm afraid i'll botch it
[22:55] <Dr_Willis> rzeka:  any of them wouls show the servers ip.
[22:55] <bluefox83> if there was one of those entries you need info from i'll type it out though
[22:55] <chrissey> okay, so is in the output anywhere /dev/sda1?
[22:55] <Dr_Willis> rzeka:  digitalocean had a $5 or $10 'free' special the other day. they seem to be a decent service.
[22:55] <bluefox83> nope
[22:56] <bluefox83> should i fsck.ext2 /dev/sda1 ?
[22:56] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5975304/
[22:56] <chrissey> you could try this: http://justcheckingonall.wordpress.com/2010/07/18/howto-repair-broken-ext4-partitions/
[22:56] <rzeka> Dr_Willis: You did not understand me :) I've got a server, now I've got VPN service too :) Now i just have to forward it somehow to become visible as server not as me when I'm connected
[22:57] <rzeka> I am using pptpd right now
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  yoru shell script is not cd'ing to where the binary is at..
[22:57] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  i fixed it's launching issue from terminal
[22:58] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  exactly... I just realized that.... XD Sorry. lemme try through clicking
[22:59] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  mmmm, nope. while it launches all happily it still refuses to see the folders
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> always striks me as odd... i copy a file to my USB flash drive.. mc (or nautilus, or whatever) copys it 'fast' but then just seems to hang at the very end - aparently its saying its done. (well 99% done) befor the file actually gets copied fully
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  see what folder? i dont get the error.
[23:00] <bluefox83> chrissey: well fsck wasn't a workable option so i decided to make a ubuntu 12.04 startup usb disk...
[23:01] <chrissey> bluefox?
[23:01] <bluefox83> yes?
[23:02] <chrissey> srry, i have to leave now
[23:02] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  OK, epsxe has folders it looks to get bios info for the ps1 as well as plugin stuff. When I launch it through terminal epsxe sees all these folders fine. When double clicking and launching it it doesn't see the needed folders and files. It launches but doesn't see the folders and files needed to run iso's
[23:02] <bluefox83> i found a usb thumb drive...i'll try chrooting in and fixing whatever the heck is wrong...
[23:02] <bluefox83> k
[23:02] <chrissey> good idea, bye
[23:02] <bluefox83> thanks for trying!
[23:02] <chrissey> youre welcome
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  wine is setting the default C:\ and other paths depending on where its launched from perhaps? is this .exe in your .wine directory?
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  or are you just unziping it and running whtever.exe is from the archive whever it happens to be?
[23:04] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  No siir, it's not in the .wine folder. it is in my home dir in two sub dirs. It was running fine like this untill now.
[23:04] <InFlames> my 13.04 seems to be having a dns issue, can someone help me out? i can ping ips, but not domains, however, other machines on the network can still use the web as normal
[23:05] <abaddon> Dr_Willis, I unzip it to the Emu folder I have set up for it.
[23:05] <Nasuga> InFlames: open up network manager and try setting your DNS. Try 8.8.8.8 which is Google's DNS
[23:05] <Nasuga> InFlames: You may need to restart for it to take effect
[23:05] <minetape> Someone know how to format a thumb stick to EXT4 in GParted/Terminal? In GParted I only get manage flags, information and something else. Everything else is greyed out
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  wine has a lot of settings where the C: and stuff go. so i would imagine thats what confuseing it.. id say time to ask about it in #wine-hq
[23:06] <minetape> Oh, unmount is the other option
[23:06] <abaddon> Like I said, when run through terminal by the command wine ePSXe.exe it sees all need folders fine.
[23:06] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  ahh, ok....
[23:06] <InFlames> nasuga, but the dns is designated at the router, right? other machines on the network can resolve domains.  in fact, i am using a laptop tethered to the ubuntu box to get internet and it can even resolve domains.
[23:06] <minetape> Format to is greyed out, how do I ungrey it?
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  when you double click - its using differnt settings which are pointing it to your .wine directory would be my guess
[23:07] <Nasuga> InFlames: Yes but sometimes it can't get the information from the router (in my experience).
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> then again. you could make a launcher that just runs  'xterm -e wine whatever.exe' in the  current directory and watch the output
[23:07] <wilee-nilee> minetape, The usb unmounted?
[23:07] <InFlames> Nasuga, so update the router's dns?
[23:07] <minetape> No, it's mounted
[23:07] <Nasuga> InFlames: not only that, my router has been modified by my ISP to only work with their DNS which is missing a few domains I visit. So I set the dns myself.
[23:07] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  was tyhinking the same thing. Which made me onder if it needed to be part of a wine grp so that wine would see it correctly
[23:07] <wilee-nilee> minetape, unmount it in gparted.
[23:08] <minetape> K
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  thers no wine group that i know of.
[23:08] <Nasuga> InFlames: You can try but I haven't had unluck without setting it myself.
[23:08] <minetape> Done
[23:08] <Nasuga> luck*
[23:08] <minetape> YAY
[23:08] <minetape> Kthxbai
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> or else all my users have had it by default. :) never messed with a wine group befor
[23:09] <InFlames> Nasuga, I am not understanding what you are suggesting, I can update the router's dns, but it's a third party Netgear.  All other machines on the network can resolve domains, even this ubuntu box as of last night
[23:09] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  well bummer. How do I get to wine-hq? Are thewith the ubuntu servers group?
[23:09] <Nasuga> InFlames: Open your network manager and change your networks settings to set your DNS manually
[23:10] <InFlames> "network manager"
[23:10] <InFlames> in the router's panel?
[23:10] <InFlames> or somewhere in ubuntu?
[23:10] <Nasuga> InFlames, on your affected box.
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> !wine
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> abaddon: trying to download the thing to test.. all these silly 'file downloader sites' want to install extra cruft :P
[23:11] <InFlames> that fixed it, wonder what the real issue was
[23:11] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  let me get you the link
[23:11] <Nasuga> InFlames: I'm not sure, I've had the problem with GNU/Linux and Windows.
[23:12] <Nasuga> InFlames: I fixed it the same way and infact someone else had the same problem earlier this afternoon
[23:12] <InFlames> thank you Nasuga, i was unaware you could set a dns on a per machine basis (makes sense, i generally leave everything with dhcp)
[23:12] <abaddon> /home/abaddon/Emulation/ePSXe1.8
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  err.. your not using a directory with a A SPACE in the name are you? that can really goof things up
[23:12] <InFlames> well thank you sir.
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  rename the directory where there no spaces.
[23:12] <Nasuga> InFlames: No problem. I wish I knew a permanent fix.
[23:12] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  http://www.emulator-zone.com/doc.php/psx/epsxe.html
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  spaces in shell/paths can totally mess things up
[23:12] <Nasuga> InFlames: Well, it's permanent but machine specific.
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  i just noticed the package expanded into a   'EpsxE 1.8'  directory - that Space in there can cause issues
[23:13] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  no spaces
[23:13] <InFlames> yea, i'll try to remove it later and see if things have worked themselves out, probably not
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  theres goes that idea then. ;)
[23:14] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  my package expands to no folder. just dumps it in current location
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> Wow people cant make up their minds for the case of that Emulator.. the Directory is EpsxE but the binary is called ePSXe.exe  ;)
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  i just got a .7z archive and used unp for it.
[23:14] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  which is why i unzip it to a folder set for it
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  wheni run it from terminal it mentions a lot of
[23:16] <abaddon> Dr_Willis, i've got both xarchiver and 7zip. should I unpack the folder via terminal?
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> Z:\\home\\willis\\Downloads\\PS1E
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> type paths.. Z:\\ is what wine defines to be your /home/username/ directory
[23:18] <abaddon> Dr_Willis, should I then type my location as z:/blah?
[23:19] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  mines h:
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> the winecfg tool sets the stuff automatically
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> I dont have an ISO or  a rom to even test the emu. ;)
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> the message is the plugins are not found.. but they are in fact at that directory
[23:22] <mertcanekiz> I downloaded some themes from gnome-look.org and I extracted and put them in /usr/share/themes folder and when I opened gnome-tweak-tool windows theme was working but GTK+ themes section was showing only the default ones. Then I put the themes into ~/.themes folder but still no luck. How can I fix this?
[23:22] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  OK OK, I fixed something. When I run my bash script through terminal it ran correctly. Now all i need is to launc it via a click
[23:23] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  It wont launch with a click. I associated the file to be open by /bin/bash
[23:24] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  but I get nothing
[23:24] <hayer> Buying a new HTPC. What graphic card should I go for? Should be as silent as possible
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  make a launcher  (whatever.desktop) file to launch the script
[23:24] <hayer> asking here since I'm gonna run ubuntu + xmbc
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> hayer:  most intel should be able to handle video playback
[23:25] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  I use openbox... I don't have icons on my desktop
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> hayer:  i alwyas go 'nvidia, then intel. and run away from ati'
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  No idea what you are double clicking in then...
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  what file maanger are you using?
[23:25] <InFlames> Dr_Willis, why do you say that?
[23:25] <mertcanekiz> I downloaded some themes from gnome-look.org and I extracted and put them in /usr/share/themes folder and when I opened gnome-tweak-tool windows theme was working but GTK+ themes section was showing only the default ones. Then I put the themes into ~/.themes folder but still no luck. Doesn't anybody know what should I do?
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> InFlames:  which part?
[23:26] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  xfe Also, i'm clicking on my bash script i created
[23:26] <InFlames> ATI vs nVidia, Intel vs AMD
[23:26] <hayer> Dr_Willis: okey, so "ASUS GeForce GT 620 2GB DirectCU Silent" is a good choice?
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> mertcanekiz:  make sure they are gtk3 themes?
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> InFlames:  because thats the order they seem to work best in for me.
[23:26] <mertcanekiz> I have gtk2 installed so I downloaded gtk2 themes
[23:27] <InFlames> i've never used amd cpus to be fair...
[23:27] <reisio> never?
[23:27] <reisio> must be rich :)
[23:27] <hayer> InFlames.. you don't know pain.
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> I dont really bother with AMD cpu's these days either.  but i havent built a new pc in years
[23:27] <InFlames> well last time i owned an amd cpu was like, hmm, 10 years or more ago
[23:27] <reisio> I use what comes in the box
[23:28] <InFlames> reisio, must not build your own machines?
[23:28] <hayer> reisio what if the socket doesn't match the mb socket? >_>
[23:28] <reisio> InFlames: nope, never had the time
[23:28] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  you're killing me. I love AMD and it's currently my system build.
[23:28] <reisio> and/or money, which is time
[23:28] <InFlames> almost every machine i've ever had, i've built, even prebuilts, i always tweak them
[23:28] <reisio> maybe next time
[23:28] <InFlames> reisio, custom is more efficient on time and money...
[23:28] <reisio> InFlames: only if you have the time and money at the outset to do it
[23:29] <nevyn> depends on scale
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  i havent built one lately. and really havent seen much lately to justify going amd over intel
[23:29] <reisio> otherwise, definitely
[23:29] <InFlames> i can spec an entire machine in a week, and build it in half a day
[23:29] <reisio> that's eight days I've never had, and money
[23:29] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  XD To each their own
[23:29] <InFlames> only reason it takes more than a day is to find better prices and do actual shopping
[23:29] <reisio> right, time consuming
[23:30] <reisio> I'll get around to it
[23:30] <InFlames> you can go to a store and buy it all at once and build it all in an afternoon
[23:30] <reisio> for even more money :p
[23:30] <InFlames> but if you see the extra grand you spend as not wasting time, then you're not calculating the money and time
[23:30] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  so like I said, I use xfe for my fm and i've been clicking my bash script to try and launch the program
[23:30] <hayer> Meh, custom builds are cheaper than prebuilts
[23:30] <InFlames> hayer, exactly, and more reliable and easier to maintain and upgrade
[23:30] <reisio> time never comes back
[23:31] <reisio> hayer: if you ignore the time it takes to find everything for the right price :)
[23:31] <reisio> which is fine if you have that time, heh
[23:31] <nevyn> depends on scale.
[23:31] <InFlames> reisio, if you are paying more than 2-3 hours of your time more, then the measurement is totally off
[23:31] <reisio> ?
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  i cant even get it working in wine, any way i try to launch it. so all i can say is good luck. ;)
[23:32] <InFlames> time = money, so if it costs more money, it's required that money be made, so you're wasting your time by wasting money
[23:32] <InFlames> in other words, custom = always cheaper, better, faster
[23:32] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  did you mark it as executable?
[23:33] <reisio> InFlames: I agree, _if_ you don't count the time it takes to get from A to B :p
[23:33] <reisio> unfortunately, you should count that
[23:33] <InFlames> if it's a matter of not knowing how to do it, you could learn in a day, reisio, new egg delivers to me within 48 hours...
[23:33] <nevyn> so to spend  day building a mchine would cost 2k or so.
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  im running it from the terminal.
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> the binary runs. i try to play a iso. it hangs
[23:33] <reisio> InFlames: you just said it took you eight days
[23:34] <rebbecajohnson20> Hy guys im back ^_^
[23:34] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  just type --> wine ePSXe.exe
[23:34] <reisio> rebbecajohnson20: wb
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  yes.. and it runs.. and hangs when i try to start a actual game.
[23:34] <nevyn> specig stuff doesn't go away if you buy it
[23:34] <rebbecajohnson20> Reisio: what means wb?
[23:34] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  uhhhh... change graphics plugin
[23:34] <InFlames> i said if you want to shop around a bit, sure.  on that note, if you're crazy enough to walk into a store and just buy a prebuilt machine the first day you look at it, then yea, you are wasting such an insane amount of money that i just can't even fathom it
[23:34] <reisio> rebbecajohnson20: welcome back
[23:35] <reisio> and if you don't shop around, you spend more
[23:35] <rebbecajohnson20> Reisio: thanks :-*
[23:35] <reisio> nah, I bought a prebuilt for a great deal
[23:35] <reisio> BestBuy has to get rid of things every now and then
[23:35] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  I recommend pets drivers for epsxe
[23:35] <InFlames> best buy over charges even for clearance, rofl
[23:35] <abaddon> I could just send you my setup?
[23:36] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  I could just send you my setup?
[23:36] <reisio> everybody overcharges, that's profit
[23:36] <InFlames> but this is super off-topic :x
[23:36] <savid> Where would I file a bug having to do with the bash completion file that's installed with npm?
[23:36] <InFlames> reisio, new egg prices vs best buy can sometimes be $100 difference
[23:36] <rebbecajohnson20> When will wine come to android ?
[23:36] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  besides, I just need the shell to run now through double click. XD
[23:37] <reisio> InFlames: and probably vice versa, plus you have to find them either way
[23:37] <reisio> rebbecajohnson20: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22wine%20for%20android%22
[23:37] <reisio> rebbecajohnson20: also: #android
[23:37] <S[o]let> so... what's it mean when top says that one of the processes is using 181% cpu :P
[23:37] <rebbecajohnson20> Reisio: thank you
[23:37] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  What launches bash stuff?
[23:38] <atrus> S[o]let: more than one cpu/core.
[23:38] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  It is /bin/bash, correct?
[23:38] <InFlames> reisio, never vice versa, you clearly don't know what employees pay for shit at best buy, anything rocket fish is sometimes 70% off, not kidding
[23:38] <S[o]let> atrus: its an atom n270... there's only one core
[23:38] <reisio> InFlames: doesn't matter what employees pay, it matters what I pay, vs what I pay elsewhere
[23:38] <InFlames> yea, and you pay msrp at big box stores
[23:38] <reisio> not going to go work at some place to get a better deal
[23:39] <atrus> S[o]let: hyperthreading then.
[23:39] <reisio> I pay the least amount for whatever I have the time for just like everyone else with any sense
[23:39] <S[o]let> arright
[23:39] <InFlames> reisio, i am also talking quality
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  the file manager may hae special ways to launch a shell script. I dont use that file manager so no idea what it needs.
[23:39] <reisio> if you say so
[23:39] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  could I convert the bash script to binary?
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  the first line of the .sh script defines what it needs. so all it really needs to do is get ran from a shell, or somthing like 'xterm -e pathtothe.sh'
[23:40] <InFlames> $50 hdmi that i can pck up for $4 with employee discount, you really think that cable compares to the $30 monster cable?
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  you dont just 'covnert a bash shell to a binary'
[23:40] <InFlames> bestbuy is horrible
[23:40] <InFlames> i mean shop where you like, just some friendly advice, buy online, avoid big box stores, avoid msrp
[23:40] <reisio> InFlames: again, it doesn't matter what employees pay, as I am not an employee
[23:40] <reisio> the comparison is meaningless
[23:41] <InFlames> it's not meaningless at all, employees only get deep discounts on poor quality merchandise
[23:41] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  mmmm...ok. Welp, i'll keep trying. Thx mate
[23:42] <reisio> uhuh...
[23:42] <InFlames> anyhow, this conversation is meaningless
[23:42] <reisio> can say that again
[23:42] <InFlames> lol
[23:42] <iceroot_> !ot
[23:43] <InFlames> iceroot_, my thoughts.
[23:55] <rebbecajohnson20> I was banned on Ubuntu offtopic
[23:56] <IdleOne> if you want to actually discuss your ban you should join #ubuntu-ops, otherwise don't bother.
[23:57] <daftykins> rebbecajohnson20: did you have a support question nobody was helping with?