[01:06] <bluesabre> forestpiskie: I've confirmed the bug you found in indicator-sound, and found a work around.  I've added a comment to the bug as well, so maybe we can get some traction on this. https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204
[01:06] <bluesabre> ochosi, knome, mr_pouit ^
[05:58] <elfy> bluesabre: thanks, confirm that the workaround after your's works 
[06:22] <knome> bluesabre, ugh
[06:38] <elfy> mornign knome 
[06:54] <knome> hai elfy 
[07:01] <elfy> just about to do a clean install and then install xmir into it 
[07:03] <knome> oki
[07:03] <knome> i'm about to leave sometime sooner or later
[07:03] <knome> but have fun with xmir ;)
[07:03] <elfy> have a good day :)
[07:03] <knome> will do
[07:45] <elfy> clean install of daily + install of xorg-server-mir and unity-system-compositor and reboot 
[07:46] <elfy> appears to work ok at first glance - other than a flashing login screen
[07:46] <elfy> typing in a treacle mine appears to have been fixed
[07:52] <elfy> tthough display refuses to let me choose a different resolution - think there is a bug for that
[07:54] <elfy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1196239
[09:30] <Noskcaj10> Can we try and sync xfce4-indicator-plugin? Everything has been fixed in debian or upstrea,
[09:30] <Noskcaj10> *upstream
[11:33] <elfy> well - that experiment didn't last long
[11:54] <lderan> oh dear
[11:54] <elfy> some activity in irc channel - cue really slow refresh ... 
[11:57] <elfy> sort of asked in -mir, wiaiting for some sort of response - not holding my breath though, it being sunday
[11:58] <lderan> well atleast you can get to the desktop eh :P
[11:58] <elfy> yep
[11:59] <elfy> was a bit hasty installing it on this machine perhaps lol
[15:46] <pleia2> I'll try to catch GridCube, but he should just get his team to select a desktop each week and let us know what it is (I really don't need to be involved aside from working with knome to find a spot on the site)
[15:47] <elfy> If I see him before you I'll tell him 
[15:52] <pleia2> thanks :)
[18:40] <knome> pleia2, yah
[19:47] <Noskcaj10> never mind, it works now. I'll test the package, then file a bug
[19:50] <lderan> woo
[20:44] <Noskcaj10> I've got the new indictator plugin on my PPA, but we can't sync unless ubuntu get's indicator-messages-gtk2
[20:46] <micahg> Noskcaj10: we dropped that since it wasn't ported to the latest indicator API
[20:47] <Noskcaj10> micahg, so i assume syncing the plugin won't happen?
[20:47] <micahg> from where?
[20:49] <micahg> oh, gtk2 version was never ported
[20:49] <micahg> that's why
[20:50] <Noskcaj10> syncing xfce4-indicator-plugin from debian
[20:50] <micahg> Noskcaj10: I thought you just had that uploaded (0.6.2)
[20:51] <micahg> oh, that was the datetime plugin
[20:51] <micahg> Noskcaj10: indicator needs a patch forward ported
[20:52] <Noskcaj10> ok, i'll look into getting debian updated then. Once it's ready, can you merge it on SVN? i still don't have access
[20:52] <micahg> I don't either
[20:53] <micahg> Noskcaj10: Debian is up to date, the patch hasn't been integrated upstream yet AFAIK
[20:53] <Noskcaj10> ok
[20:57] <skellat> Noskcaj: So, you got my e-mail then?
[20:57] <Noskcaj> skellat, yep
[20:57] <skellat> Okay
[20:57] <skellat> Did it help?
[20:59] <Noskcaj> yeah. I've realised that this can't get synced unless another package goes into the ubuntu repos
[21:00] <skellat> Noskcaj: Or the Ubuntu changes get handled by the upstream too so as to reduce the friction
[21:00] <Noskcaj> yeah
[21:01] <skellat> That's the other strategy you can follow if a dependency got dropped from the Ubuntu archive
[21:01] <skellat> Maybe
[21:02] <Noskcaj> one other question. Does anyone here have debian upload rights? I have 10 packages on mentors with nothing happening
[21:02] <micahg> we're not getting gtk2 back in indicator-messages upstream
[21:03] <skellat> Well, that means getting the Ubuntu delta pushed upstream then
[21:04] <micahg> no, it needs to be ported and we don't have the resources
[21:04] <skellat> Okay
[21:04] <micahg> Canonical is upstream for that
[21:05] <micahg> if someone is bored and wants to do the porting, we can reintroduce
[21:05] <micahg> but I think that time might be best spent elsewhere
[21:05] <skellat> Agreed
[21:08] <Noskcaj> What "elsewhere" do you recommend? 
[21:08] <skellat> micahg: What do you see as left on the priorities list as we head into Feature Freeze?
[21:08] <micahg> figure out Mir stuff, gtk-theme-config
[21:08] <micahg> oh, and getting some other unity stuff out of the image
[21:09] <skellat> micahg: There is that docs sponsored + SRU upload for 12.04 that nobody wants to touch with a bargepole
[21:10] <micahg> I can do that as soon as I have some time (hopefully this week)
[21:10] <skellat> micahg: You should have the bug logged somewhere
[21:10] <skellat> Mir still boils down to watch & wait to see if any new code drops
[21:11] <skellat> The known issues list is known to us and we need to watch to see if anything gets cleared off it with a further code drop (if any)
[21:12] <micahg> yeah
[21:12] <skellat> I don't think mr_pouit will be happy on the multi-monitor issue since Mir only supports mirroring and using multiple monitors is on Known Issues as not done yet
[21:13] <skellat> Unit193 & I are both idling in -mir watching things ever so hopefully
[21:13] <micahg> well, if that's not done and not scoped for 13.10, we'll wait
[21:13] <Noskcaj> And if anyone wants to check xfce4-settings 4.11, it's ready for upload and in my PPA, we just need a meeting to decide if we use it or not
[21:13] <skellat> micahg: They still have time but that is my feeling too
[21:13] <skellat> As to gtk-theme-config...I have no clue where that stands right now
[21:14] <micahg> waiting on me to upload to mentors which I hope to do tonight
[21:14] <micahg> Noskcaj: I won't take -settings without mr_pouit's ACK
[21:15] <skellat> Cool.  Ping Paul Tagliamonte if you have to to see if we can push things forward.  We're after DIF so we'll need to do a manual requestsync.
[21:15] <micahg> skellat: yeah, I can handle that :)
[21:15] <skellat> Paul is one of my predecessors as leader for Ubuntu Ohio...
[21:15] <Noskcaj> micahg, what i expected, but i'm let to see mr_pouit online, ever
[21:17] <skellat> Noskcaj: You can always write Lionel an e-mail
[21:17] <Noskcaj> I'll wait till the end of the week, then try that
[21:18] <skellat> micahg: Yeah, I do hope the Fluxbox king himself may help us navigate the queues more easily.
[21:20]  * skellat wanders off to the other room to check on the BeagleBoard-xM relative to a Dropbox matter
[21:32] <knome> Noskcaj, i'd send the email as soon as you can.
[21:38] <Noskcaj> knome, ok, thanks
[21:39]  * Noskcaj requires breakfast, will be back soon
[21:51] <Noskcaj> Gthumb 3.2.3 can't be put into ubuntu until bug 1191959 is fixed
[21:52] <micahg> Noskcaj: it seems silly for gthumb to depend on a new automake
[21:52] <Noskcaj> micahg, yes, but the .configure won't work without it, and i don't know how to make a workaround
[21:53] <micahg> regenerate?
[21:55] <micahg> required automake is 1.8 in tree
[21:55] <micahg> hrm, 1.11
[21:55] <micahg> but still fine
[21:55] <Noskcaj> strange, i'll find the error i get
[21:58] <Noskcaj> micahg, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5975127/
[22:00] <micahg> Noskcaj: try with dh-autoreconf
[22:00] <micahg> no idea why you're getting that
[22:02] <Noskcaj> How do i use that with the simple rules file?
[22:03] <micahg> dh --with autoreconf
[22:05] <Noskcaj> micahg, it still won't build
[22:11] <micahg> Noskcaj: well, if you put up a source package for me somewhere, I'll try to take a look later tonight
[22:11] <Noskcaj> micahg, ok, thanks. i'll upload it now
[22:11]  * micahg disappears for a bit
[22:14] <Noskcaj> It's a big file because i can't run debuild clean
[22:14] <micahg> Noskcaj: ok, just give me the debian dir diff than
[22:19] <Noskcaj> the orig is at https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B57km_mHQf74UGwxYUdLWXUyNUU/edit?usp=sharing and the debian folder is at https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B57km_mHQf74aUR6Qmtqd2J6Vmc/edit?usp=sharing
[23:50] <micahg> Noskcaj: your issues are caused by one of the patches or your environment, I commented out all the patches and I seem to get pretty far in the build