[06:42] <dholbach> good morning
[06:50] <iulian> Morning dholbach.
[06:51] <Noskcaj> Afternoon dholbach
[06:52] <Noskcaj> Does anyone know when we can expect automake1.14 in ubuntu?
[07:11] <geser> Noskcaj: we could sync it once it's in Debian sid (it isn't there yet and assuming it's not too late to sync it)
[07:12]  * Noskcaj wonders how hard it would be to package it. probably very
[07:13] <dholbach> hi iulian, hey Noskcaj
[07:21]  * Noskcaj rage quits packaging gthumb
[07:25] <geser> a new version of gthumb?
[07:27] <Noskcaj> geser, 3.2.3 instead of 3.0.*. I'm meant to be adopting it (in debian) but the package fefuses to play nice
[07:27] <Noskcaj> *refuses
[07:28] <geser> ah, :(
[07:30] <geser> and you need a more recent automake for it? it doesn't work with automake 1.13?
[07:31] <Noskcaj> geser, it does, i just kept getting a strange error saying it needed 1.14. That's fixed and it fails somewhere else
[07:33] <geser> can you pastebin the error message you get?
[07:34] <Noskcaj> yeah, sure. just let me undo all of my failed attempts at fixing it
[07:38] <Noskcaj> One other question. What is the recommended way of merging stuff now? I've tried MoM, UDD, and manually packaging.
[07:39] <geser> what works best for you and the package you are merging
[07:39] <Noskcaj> ok
[07:40] <Noskcaj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5976391/ is the last 250 lines of the debuild output for gthumb
[07:44] <geser> "Makefile:564: *** missing separator.  Stop." Can you pastebin the Makefile too?
[07:47] <Noskcaj> Makefile, Makefile.am or makefile.in ?
[07:51] <geser> The Makefile for now as I want to know what is around line 564 it complains about
[07:55] <Noskcaj> geser, http://pastebin.com/ywcAXY9Z
[07:57] <Noskcaj> 564 says "          empty_fix=; \" without the quotation marks
[07:58] <geser> do you also have a help/Makefile?
[07:58] <geser> as make was "Making all in help"
[08:00] <Noskcaj> geser, http://pastebin.com/3yZQNLbc
[08:10] <geser> "@YELP_HELP_RULES@" looks like the problem
[08:10] <Noskcaj> ok
[08:11] <Noskcaj> On another topic, the debian gzip bzr branch doesn't have 1.6 even though it's on unstable
[08:12] <geser> Noskcaj: I guess you need "yelp-tools" to resolve that substitution
[08:13] <Noskcaj> ok, i'll try that then see if it needs to be a dependency
[08:14] <geser> the package importer failed for gzip: http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/gzip.html
[08:15] <Noskcaj> geser, debuild clean now works, but debuild still doesn't
[08:16] <geser> same error or different?
[08:17] <Noskcaj> different
[08:17] <Noskcaj> i'll investigate myself for a while
[08:22] <Noskcaj> I can't understand the new error either, it's at http://paste.ubuntu.com/5976481/
[08:24] <geser> sorry, I'm not very familiar with automake/autoconfig
[08:24] <Noskcaj> ok
[08:26] <jtaylor> hm its trying to regenerate in make clean
[08:26] <jtaylor> it normally does that if maintainer mode is enabled and the timestamps don't match
[08:27] <jtaylor> don'T know how to prevent that
[10:15] <Noskcaj> I've just merged gzip and added dholbach's autopkgtests, can someone take a look? https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/saucy/gzip/1.6/+merge/179658
[21:01] <Noskcaj> infinity, Do you mind if i try and merge dpkg?
[21:09] <Noskcaj> infinity, never mind, there seems to be a small regression
[22:05] <infinity> Noskcaj: Pretty please, don't merge it.  I'll get to it when we're ready.