[07:11] <DanChapman> Good morning all
[13:44] <elfy> balloons: now it's Monday ... can we get http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/testsuites/364/ available here please http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/300/builds
[13:44] <elfy> also - we've got this oddity with archived testcases in packages that I can't see how to deal with
[13:56] <lderan> balloons: i hear there is something that I maybe able to help with, with linking the qatracker and LP with its api.
[15:23] <balloons> elfy, yes now that it's monday, hah, what are we looking at?
[15:24] <elfy> first - easy one
[15:24] <elfy> http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/300/builds
[15:24] <balloons> I see common settings testsuite
[15:24] <balloons> ohh
[15:24] <elfy> can it be added to the front page?
[15:25] <balloons> elfy, what do you mean added to the front page?
[15:25] <elfy> so it shows http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/300/builds
[15:26] <balloons> elfy, http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/ shows saucy daily.. I'm confused
[15:27] <elfy> balloons: 2 secs - picture paints ...
[15:28] <elfy> balloons: can we have the common settings on here http://imagebin.org/267283
[15:28] <elfy> we have common desktop - but not settings
[15:29] <balloons> elfy, http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/products/335/testsuites
[15:29] <elfy> I can do xubuntu stuff - not seeing how to add that common desktop though
[15:29] <balloons> elfy, can you access that page/
[15:29] <balloons> ?
[15:29] <elfy> sorry - yea I can
[15:29] <balloons> no worrie
[15:30] <elfy> ok
[15:30] <elfy> was getting ocnfused - I knew I could add it to xubuntu testcases
[15:30] <elfy> just wondered why it's not on the 'front' like common desktop
[15:31] <balloons> ohh under common?
[15:31] <elfy> for everyone
[15:31] <balloons> this page? http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/300/builds/50385/testcases
[15:32] <elfy> guess so
[15:33] <balloons> done, it's added
[15:33] <balloons> ty
[15:33] <elfy> ok
[15:33] <elfy> thanks
[15:35] <elfy> right - that's good - removed the common stuff from xubuntu now
[15:35] <balloons> kk
[15:35] <elfy> balloons: the other issue is really making me pull my hair out though - http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/300/builds/50384/testcases
[15:36] <elfy> the top 5 in the xfce settings manager tests are all set archived?
[15:40] <balloons> elfy, this I do remember
[15:40] <elfy> lol
[15:46]  * elfy thinks the silence is ominous 
[15:48] <balloons> it is
[15:51] <DanChapman> afternoon balloons, elfy :-)
[15:51] <elfy> hi DanChapman
[15:51] <balloons> DanChapman, afternoon
[15:52] <balloons> so elfy I didn't know why on sat, I still don't
[15:52] <elfy> odd
[15:53]  * elfy wonders what would happen if I removed the 5 and added them again
[15:53] <balloons> let's see one thin
[15:55] <balloons> well elfy I mean we're going to increment them  potentially for the next cadence week.. it's an open question
[15:56] <balloons> the archived or not results is not controlled on a testcase level
[15:56] <balloons> that's the wild thing
[15:56] <balloons> maybe we should have stgraber have a look
[15:56] <balloons> before we do anything further
[15:57] <elfy> ok
[15:59] <balloons> stgraber, so this testcase is in an open milestone, yet shows up as archived: http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/300/builds/50384/testcases/1586/results. If you look at the entire testsuite,  http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/300/builds/50384/testcases you can see the first 5 testcases are all archived.
[15:59] <elfy> balloons: given our number of testers we're wanting to run our testcases for longer - in fact just as they are on the daily - so that people can pick them off
[15:59] <balloons> stgraber, the rest of the testsuite is accepting results like normal
[15:59] <elfy> effectively if we can get a couple of results for each one we'll be in a better place than we are now
[16:00] <balloons> elfy, I'm thinking we should leave them as-is as well.. perhaps we can consider a new milestone for final beta and then leave that through the rc's and final testing?
[16:01] <elfy> balloons: - this is what we atold/sked our testers "We would like to get one complete set of test results in before Beta 1 which is due on 29th August. However, if you have time and a test has already been run, don't be afraid to run the test – all results are welcome! After we have Beta 1 released, we would like to see a further test run between Beta 1 and Final Beta on the 22nd September."
[16:03] <balloons> elfy, I think that lines up pretty well with what I was thinking.. a reset between the alpha stuff and the beta/final stuff
[16:04] <elfy> yep
[16:04] <elfy> well thanks for looking at that oddness - I'll watch for a reply
[16:04] <balloons> elfy, sure thing
[16:04] <balloons> good eye for noticing, heh
[16:05] <elfy> someone was trying to report a result :(
[16:05] <elfy> they pointed me at it on saturday
[16:36] <balloons> elopio, I saw popover landed. I'll get the docs page updated
[16:42] <elopio> balloons: cool.
[16:43] <elopio> balloons: I saw a reply on the bug about the objectName on the popover actions, but I haven't been able to check that.
[16:43] <balloons> elopio, yea, same here..
[16:44] <elopio> if you see somebody using the popover, please tell him to notice that the click_by_text method will probably be deprecated.
[16:44] <balloons> well, I'm thinking of keeping the local versions I put in in place until the click by text dies
[16:44] <balloons> then i'll move them to the sdk
[17:37]  * pinky is away: Away
[18:11] <DanChapman> wow its quiet today
[18:12] <balloons> elfy put out a stumper and quieted the whole channel DanChapman :-)
[18:12] <DanChapman> :-) lol
[18:15] <balloons> DanChapman, I'm actually doing a conversion to the emulator for the rss reader and trying to land carla's changes
[18:16] <balloons> I haven't looked this morning at ubiquity -- any happy news?
[18:16] <elfy> I sowwy :(
[18:16]  * balloons looks
[18:17] <balloons> nice, the trend is sane again :-)
[18:18] <DanChapman> balloons, yeah well its kinda working some minor timing issues which the next run should be fixed. But still some odd beviour with the testbed. for instance the lvm_encrypt on the amd64 run is using the old test before xnox's fix which is strange
[18:18] <balloons> only on the amd64 run tho?
[18:18] <DanChapman> balloons, yeah the i386 is all running the latest now
[18:19] <balloons> that explains things then
[18:19] <DanChapman> jibel said he will take a look when he gets a chance
[18:19] <balloons> i wondered why amd64 was all bent out of shape
[18:19] <m-b-o> ballons: I've updated the MP
[18:20] <DanChapman> balloons, yeah its mighty strange how the session log says it pulled my branch but autopilot is complaining about something that isn't even there :-)
[18:20] <DanChapman> but hey at least we got some blues now :-)
[18:21] <DanChapman> balloons, also the gedit test is coming along now nearly 50 tests and still plenty more to do :-D
[18:22] <balloons> m-b-o, excellent!
[18:22] <balloons> DanChapman, I'm super psyched about the gedit test
[18:24] <balloons> DanChapman, I know your jenkins woes all to well my friend. Sometimes we're being silly, sometimes it's the tool. but it will only do what we tell it
[18:25] <DanChapman> balloons, yeah i didn't realise how much tweaking would be needed once it gets run on there. It runs perfect on my machine everytime before i push it and then it dnt work! grrr.... all good fun though
[18:27] <DanChapman> balloons, I cam across this last week. http://ubuntuone.com/2KQs94muGQtGIBXnxX8vmb you've probably seen it before but it gives a nice view on testing software
[18:28] <balloons> DanChapman, no I hadn't seen that
[18:29] <m-b-o> balloons: when will the next smoke test run?
[18:31] <DanChapman> balloons, its quite an interesting read :-)
[18:31] <balloons> m-b-o, they run everyday. So you upped the timeout's and added your network asserts yes?
[18:32] <m-b-o> yes, approved it by myself ;)
[18:32] <balloons> m-b-o, :-)
[18:32] <m-b-o> balloons: when there's no connection we will see
[18:32] <balloons> m-b-o, perfect.. that should be very helpful
[18:33] <m-b-o> balloons: I'm really curious to find out
[18:34] <balloons> plars, well, let's wait for it to build and I'll see if I can get plars to kick off a job just for us :-)
[18:34] <balloons> m-b-o, ^^
[18:34] <m-b-o> :)
[18:34] <balloons> hehe.. plars on the brain
[18:35] <plars> :)
[18:36] <balloons> m-b-o, this is the build https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily/+build/4871250
[18:37] <m-b-o> balloons: cool, thanks! :)
[18:37] <balloons> ty
[18:48] <Letozaf_> balloons, Hello, buonasera
[18:48] <balloons> Letozaf_, howdy
[18:48] <Letozaf_> balloons, :) I have worked on the calendar app and the rssreader one
[18:49] <balloons> Letozaf_, ohh.. what's up on rssreader?
[18:49] <balloons> Letozaf_, I worked to convert your old branch to the new emulator.. I'd love to do the same with an updated one :-)
[18:49] <Letozaf_> balloons, well I fixed it as they made quite a lot changes to it since I wrote the autopilot tests
[18:49] <Letozaf_> balloons, oh! fine, I can push it
[18:50] <Letozaf_> balloons, but there is no way to remove a topic at the moment :)
[18:50] <balloons> Letozaf_, and I'm happy to hear about calendar too.. excellent.. productive weekend eh?
[18:50] <balloons> Letozaf_, we can note it as a bug.. rss reader definitely has bugs.. so we'll try and note them ;-)
[18:50] <Letozaf_> balloons, yeah but for the calendar app need help on one thing :p
[18:50] <balloons> I can convert the calendar app to the sdk also
[18:51] <Letozaf_> balloons, good
[18:51] <Letozaf_> balloons, do you want me to push what I did till now
[18:51] <Letozaf_> balloons, so you can see what I did ?
[18:54] <balloons> Letozaf_, go for it
[18:54] <Letozaf_> balloons, shall I push the changes to the same branches I had before ? is it ok ?
[18:55] <balloons> Letozaf_, that's just fine
[18:55] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok, just a minute and I will do it
[18:55] <balloons> I've been working off the lp:~carla-sella/ubuntu-rssreader-app/view-feeds-test
[18:57] <Letozaf_> balloons, I just pushed the rssreader app tests to https://code.launchpad.net/~carla-sella/ubuntu-rssreader-app/view-feeds-test
[18:58] <Letozaf_> balloons, so that looks right :)
[18:58] <Letozaf_> balloons, I think removing topic is missing
[18:58] <balloons> Letozaf_, kk
[18:58] <Letozaf_> balloons, cannot find how to with the last changes they made
[18:58] <Letozaf_> balloons, so that test is incomplete
[18:59] <Letozaf_> balloons, I will now push the calendar app tests to https://code.launchpad.net/~carla-sella/ubuntu-calendar-app/calendar-app but can I do it if this is merged ?
[19:00] <balloons> Letozaf_, you can
[19:00] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok
[19:00] <balloons> you can merge the same branch again :-)
[19:02] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok did it I also pushed the calendar app tests
[19:02] <Letozaf_> balloons, this one needs fixing when I change the new event start and end time :p
[19:02] <Letozaf_> balloons, need help here :p
[19:02] <balloons> Letozaf_, ok
[19:02] <balloons> merging the rss branch now
[19:06] <balloons> my changes are in here: lp:~nskaggs/ubuntu-rssreader-app/convert-tests-to-sdk
[19:06] <balloons> I think I might just pull your branch and redo it
[19:06] <DanChapman> see you all tomorrow folks :-)
[19:06] <balloons> the conversion that is
[19:06] <balloons> DanChapman, peace out :-p
[19:06] <DanChapman> lol
[19:06] <balloons> lol.. I love world culture
[19:07] <Letozaf_> DanChapman, bye
[19:09] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok! oh, another test needs fixing (rssreader) the view feeds, one they changed things also there, I was about to work on it
[19:09] <balloons> ok Letozaf_ I grabbed trunk for rssreader, and then merged your branch into
[19:10] <balloons> it doesn't work out of the box.. should it?
[19:10] <balloons> Letozaf_, ahh lol
[19:10] <balloons> yes, no more all feed view
[19:10] <Letozaf_> balloons, try the add and remove topic and feed one
[19:10] <Letozaf_> balloons, that works fine
[19:10] <balloons> error line 163    self.assertThat(canonicalFeed.text, Eventually(Equals("Canonical"))) AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'text'
[19:11] <Letozaf_> balloons, :(
[19:11] <Letozaf_> balloons, let me try, it worked yesterday
[19:11] <balloons> Letozaf_, well I merged with upstream code
[19:11] <balloons> they may have tweaked things again.. that's why this needs to get into there codebase, so when they merge they can't break it!
[19:12] <Letozaf_> balloons, it also happens to me, but I'm quite sure yesterday it didn't :P
[19:13] <Letozaf_> balloons, shall I wait for you to convert the test to sdk before working on it or what ?
[19:13] <balloons> probably a quick fix, I'll let you do that while I redo the conversion quick
[19:13] <balloons> no no go ahead
[19:13] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok
[19:22] <Letozaf_> balloons, its "only" a timing issue... have to add another assert  there...
[19:23] <balloons> Letozaf_, ohh.. that's an easy fix then
[19:23] <Letozaf_> balloons, sure :p
[19:44] <Letozaf_> balloons, it's working now, do you want me to push the changes ? (I mean I fixed the error on line 163)
[19:44] <balloons> go for it Letozaf_ :-
[19:46] <phillw> balloons: have you had chance to think how to tie in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Drinking%20our%20own%20champagne (suitably renamed) into our area?
[19:46] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok pushed the change
[19:46] <balloons> phillw, ohh you even have a icon ;)
[19:46] <balloons> phillw, I'd like to it be a part of the first steps
[19:47] <phillw> balloons: arrived earlier today :D Rafael was set the task, hope you like it!
[19:47] <balloons> I do :-
[19:48] <phillw> on the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities area, or some where else?
[19:48] <balloons> phillw, it can be there, but I would like a nicer onboarding that includes this. In other words, join the list, join the group, then install a development version of ubuntu
[19:49] <balloons> we're missing that last step in some ways.. it's kind of implied, but I'd like to make it more prominent and to the point.. install the dev version, here's why, and here's what you can do with it
[19:49] <balloons> vm or real hw, install it ;-0
[19:50] <phillw> it will be some where near to the section of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities#I_want_to_help_test
[19:50] <phillw> I'll have a look in, give you a shout in a while.
[19:51] <balloons> kk, that make sense? so there should be a link from the main page as well.. a link to something that gets you to arrive at your page :-)
[19:55] <balloons> Letozaf_, sorry I'm tied up in a meeting for a few, so I got stuck on my work.. what do you need help on with calendar? I can do the conversion work on the working tests :-)
[19:58] <Letozaf_> balloons, it's when I try to change the new event start and stop time
[19:59] <balloons> Letozaf_, ahh, are you having trouble interacting with the objects?
[19:59] <Letozaf_> balloons, cannot stop the time picker on the hour or minute I want to chose
[19:59] <Letozaf_> balloons, yes
[19:59] <Letozaf_> balloons, I can drag the hour and minute chooser, but cannot stop it
[20:00] <Letozaf_> balloons, more or less lin 84
[20:00] <Letozaf_> sorry line 84 in the test
[20:01] <Letozaf_> balloons, I would like to be able to change the hour bye one hour at a time and not let it roll over to whatever time it wants on it's own
[20:03] <balloons> gotcha. So when you interact it rolls past the time.. I'll have to run it
[20:03] <Letozaf_> balloons, it just rolls :p
[20:04] <balloons> kk.. so I can look at that in a few
[20:04] <Letozaf_> balloons, if you can otherwise I will wait and carry on with the rssreader app
[20:07] <balloons> Letozaf_, ah-hah I see :-)
[20:18] <phillw> balloons: as I see it, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Testing_The_Devlopment_Release and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Drinking%20our%20own%20champagne are tied that closely, they may as well be merged into one page?
[20:20] <balloons> Letozaf_, so it works, that's cool.. we can work on selecting a proper time as the next step.. iterate iterate
[20:22] <balloons> phillw, yes, exactly.. Lump that into a nice logical page.. 3 parts: linking to the technical bits of getting a development version of ubuntu for yourself going, the drinking your own champagne stuff on (aka, the why we do it), and the last bits about "what" to do.
[20:22] <balloons> perhaps a general section on where to learn more for the classroom related stuff
[20:23] <Letozaf_> balloons, so is it ok as it is for now ? really ?
[20:23] <balloons> Letozaf_, one step at a time for me.. it does test.. my biggest piece is I REALLY want to land the rss reader test, as it has nothing
[20:23] <balloons> but the calendar test, as you wrote it, yes I would merge it
[20:24] <balloons> and plan to enhance it to test specific times
[20:24] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok fine :p
[20:29] <balloons> ok, all done ;-)
[20:34] <Letozaf_> balloons, so I will propose a merge for the calendar app ?
[20:36] <balloons> Letozaf_, yea, go for it :-) We'll just have to make sure it runs wells on the device, which I can do
[20:38] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok done!
[20:38] <melodie> hi
[20:40] <phillw> hi melodie welcome to #ubuntu-quality. to every one, melodie is a newish lubuntu-qa person, will have questions to ask. melodie I assure you that there are no dumb questions, read through our https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities area and SCREAM at me or balloons if the questions you have are not answered!
[20:40] <melodie> thank you very much
[20:41] <melodie> I'll add this one chan to my favorites and ask some basic questions as time goes
[20:41] <knome> i assure there are dumb questions - the unasked ones
[20:41] <melodie> is there any chance that there are there people here you are the ones working on the zram thing?
[20:42] <phillw> melodie: I'm one of the wiki guys working on the area, we do need people like you to do as knome asks... Let us know the un asked ones.
[20:42] <balloons> zram is fun :-) but no I'm not working on ti :-)
[20:43] <phillw> melodie: zram is mainly a lubuntu thing. Ask on L-QA about that.
[20:43] <melodie> on the list then
[20:43] <knome> melodie, balloons is the one with lots of typos - feel free to point out his false spelling ;)
[20:43] <melodie> ok
[20:44] <melodie> I take notes, and probably introduce myself shortly on the mailing list before starting to post. about zram I have seen an interesting thread
[20:45] <balloons> knome, <3
[20:45] <knome> balloons, <3
[20:45] <melodie> I have been working on a Openbox only Ubuntu remix project for months now and I am not a coder, which makes it a bit difficult but not uninteresting, and I have modified the default files for the system to accept zram working on machines having above 512 MB :p
[20:45] <phillw> melodie: for zram, use the L-QA area and also look in the archives. but applying for membership here and joining the mailing list is also a good move :)
[20:46] <melodie> I also have received nice help and tips from gilir and knowing that now lubuntu will use zram as default has motivated me a lot to join the testing
[20:47] <melodie> phillw I'm not sure if I need to apply for membership here or if coming to the chan will be enough, I'll do if needed
[20:49] <phillw> melodie: gilir is the head of dev for lubuntu, I also keep in touch with him. If you are wanting to learn more about testing, then I would strongly suggest that you do. some of the emails may be 'over your head' in the early days, but you can get an overview of what QA is all about & then look up the areas you do not know about yet.
[20:50] <melodie> sure this is what I want to do
[20:50] <melodie> one of my questions will be how to use the test cases for instance (but not know, it's late here and I am being tired)
[20:51] <melodie> I'll just test gently, with one method (vbox) then the other (an IBM laptop P4 T30 with 1 Gb ram I have)
[20:51] <phillw> melodie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam#Joining
[20:51] <melodie> and try to use the right methods with zsync and such
[20:52] <melodie> thank you, I'll keep the link to that page in my LubuntuSaucyTesting folder
[20:52] <melodie> until I can read it quietly and completely
[20:53] <phillw> melodie: we have archived classroom sessions for vbox etc... head over to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Saucy
[20:53] <melodie> phillw I know gilir is the head of the lubuntu dev, and he has been very nice to help me. So what I have learned while building this Ubuntu Openbox is something where there are parts I can probably share for the benefit of Lubuntu which I appreciate a lot
[20:54] <phillw> melodie: the easiest link to bookmark for you is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/
[20:55] <melodie> I don't bookmark anymore, my bookmarks used to look like a mess, I create a desktop file which I can click on to open the one desired page :)
[20:55] <melodie> well I bookmark sometimes, but only for fast reuse, these ones I'll probably visit several times to get the information I need
[20:58] <melodie> there is something I have been amazed a few months ago, I had reported a bug against the zram-config package because the default setup says it will not be started in the Live if the machine has over 512 MB ram, and I think this is a big mistake. Having used zram for many years now, I feel it good to have at least up to 2 GB ram, depending on which desktop is used.
[20:59] <melodie> Unity really does need 2GB, under this amount ram I have felt it was sluggish
[20:59] <melodie> and after I have posted the bug report, maybe one or two days later : not a bug ! rejected with no explation and removed at once !
[21:00] <melodie> it was not a simple one, I had worked on it
[21:00] <knome> unity being slow is not a bug, it's a feature
[21:00]  * knome hides
[21:00] <melodie> :)
[21:01] <melodie> in a Live, having zram working up to 2 GB ram would be much better than limiting it to 512 MB : for all versions.
[21:01] <balloons> unity 8 helps out there :-)
[21:01] <knome> balloons, disclaimer: i haven't used unity, ever :P
[21:02] <balloons> I'm just teasing back
[21:02] <balloons> yes it requires more resources, of course :-)
[21:02] <knome> did you mean windows 8 helps with the unity slowness?
[21:02] <knome> why waste anything? i have 8GB of RAM on desktop and 6GB on laptop, but i run xfce..
[21:03] <balloons> I mean unity-next
[21:03] <knome> did you mean: windows XP?
[21:03] <melodie> and also cutting the available ram in 2 to fix the size of the block device is not the perfect method for in old machines with small amounts of cpu and ram 1/4th, as advised by the developer of the compcache project has always provided good results in all tests I did and had people do on remixes I did in the paste
[21:03] <melodie> (in another distro previously also, with Openbox too)
[21:06] <knome> i think balloons went sobbing in the corner
[21:06] <knome> i win!
[21:07] <melodie> knome what do you win?
[21:07] <knome> melodie, the teasing competition ;)
[21:07] <melodie> knome I suspect you use Xfce because you used to love Gnome2 ;)
[21:08] <knome> i used to *use* gnome 2, but i didn't feel completely at home with it
[21:08] <melodie> have you been at a forum having for name "linuxgator" at some time?
[21:08] <knome> melodie, nope
[21:09] <melodie> ok, someone else using a nick looking like your's then
[21:09] <knome> also, i've used xfce since 2007
[21:09] <melodie> ok
[21:09] <melodie> do you install it on a minimal ubuntu or do you install Xubuntu directly?
[21:10] <knome> i just go for the xubuntu installation, most of the things are good for me in that
[21:10] <Noskcaj> On a related topic, testdrive finally has support for 2GB of RAM. All thanks to the worst hackfest ever run
[21:10] <melodie> I could present you a configuration I did once to make it look like gnome2
[21:10] <knome> (some of that is explained by the fact that i'm the current xubuntu project lead...)
[21:10] <melodie> if you don't mind of course
[21:11] <melodie> knome congratulations!
[21:11] <knome> you could send it to http://xubuntu-showcase.deviantart.com/
[21:11] <melodie> no
[21:11] <melodie> I can't
[21:11] <knome> i use *very* minimalistic setups myself
[21:11] <melodie> I have used a background already existing
[21:11] <melodie> but I have arranged it to be present in the whole system
[21:12] <melodie> http://meets.free.fr/Downloads/Screenshots/xubuntu-brown.png
[21:12] <knome> aha
[21:12] <melodie> and the full theme in a tree directory here: http://meets.free.fr/Downloads/XubuntuBrownTheme/
[21:12] <phillw> knome: lubuntu are the only DE to use zram as default.
[21:12] <melodie> with the setup of the panel too
[21:12] <knome> http://temp.knome.fi/other/laptop_screenshot.png and http://temp.knome.fi/other/desktop_screenshot.png
[21:13] <melodie> phillw Ubuntu Openbox Remix does it
[21:13] <melodie> but of course its not an official branding as Lubuntu is ;-)
[21:13] <phillw> melodie: it is not an adopted flavour.... We do have fun with the differences :)
[21:13] <melodie> so you might say "the only official version"
[21:13] <phillw> melodie: correct :D
[21:14] <melodie> :)
[21:14] <melodie> Madbox also uses zram, but is not continuued
[21:15] <melodie> ok, good night
[21:15] <melodie> :)
[22:09] <balloons> Noskcaj, ping
[22:11] <Noskcaj> balloons, i'm here for the next 10 minutes
[22:12] <balloons> Noskcaj, I'll be quick :-) Do you have that list of testdrive hackables in bug reports for testdrive? I was hoping to get them all as bug reports and add a tag to them so people new to testdrive coding could hack on them.
[22:12] <balloons> I want to use that in a new campaign to help people get involved, but I want to make sure the todo items are in place
[22:12] <Noskcaj> balloons, All but one or two are. e.g. fix the documentation for testdrive
[22:13] <Noskcaj> good idea btw
[22:13] <balloons> Noskcaj, great.. when you get time, add a tag and the missing ones and just let me know
[22:13] <Noskcaj> ok. I'll be trying to get testdrive into debian this week, i think we're finally ready for that
[22:13] <balloons> ohh, nice!
[22:18] <Noskcaj> what's the tag going to be? also, maybe we make a ubuntu-QA bugs team, for notifications for all the QA team maintained packages?
[22:18] <balloons> Noskcaj, you could just use 'todo'
[22:18] <balloons> Noskcaj, I'm intrigued, tell me more
[22:19] <Noskcaj> balloons, Similar to the xubuntu-bugs team, which just sends you a notification every time a relevant bug is edited or made
[22:19] <Noskcaj> i have to go to school now, bye
[22:20] <balloons> Noskcaj, bye.. mention it to me again, as to what all it would include
[22:20] <balloons> we'll talk later
[22:21] <Noskcaj> tstdrive, the testcases, and other tools we use, the QA website
[22:41] <melodie> hi
[22:41] <melodie> coming by just for a typo here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cadence
[22:41] <melodie> s/and execute the testcases for the iso and report there results to the tracker. /and execute the testcases for the iso and report their results to the tracker.
[22:41] <melodie> their results and not there results
[22:45] <melodie> another typo can be noticed here:
[22:45] <melodie> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Hardware
[22:46] <melodie> in this title: "How to generate and store a weblink of your computer's specications"
[22:46] <melodie> specification and not specications, of course
[22:49] <melodie> gn now