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prgCoder | hi guys - can anyone point me to a website on how to setup / install a secure Apache / PHP / MySQL envionment for a Ubuntu server? Please | 00:39 |
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prgCoder | hi guys - can anyone point me to a website on how to setup / install a secure Apache / PHP / MySQL environment for a Ubuntu server? Please | 03:21 |
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chilli-salad | prgCoder, have you tried the ubuntu server guide? | 03:50 |
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Semor | where can I find kernel debug info for 3.5.0-23-generic #35~precise1-Ubuntu ? | 04:25 |
prgCoder | chilli-salad: thanks | 04:27 |
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jpds | Semor: ddebs.ubuntu.com ? | 05:04 |
derrik | is thin client = windows terminal server? | 05:04 |
Semor | jpds:what is the differnce between 3.5.0-23-generic and 3.5.0-23-generic precise1 ? | 05:05 |
jpds | derrik: No. | 05:05 |
jpds | Semor: Pardon? Do you have links? | 05:05 |
derrik | jpds it isnt? | 05:10 |
derrik | i found with google: A thin client is a network computer without a hard disk drive | 05:11 |
Semor | jpds: do you know the precise1 version of ubuntu server? | 05:13 |
jpds | derrik: It might be an example instance of it; but it's not the only version of it. | 05:13 |
jpds | Semor: You mean 12.04.1 LTS ? | 05:14 |
Semor | yes ,that is | 05:15 |
Semor | It is the kernel I am running | 05:15 |
lifeless | Semor: what does "uname -a" show ? | 05:16 |
Semor | Linux localhost 3.5.0-23-generic #35~precise1-Ubuntu SMP | 05:17 |
Semor | how do I install debug symbols for it? | 05:19 |
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WalterN | trying to figure out what is typical or good for spam filtering for postfix | 09:37 |
WalterN | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixAmavisNew is that typical? | 09:38 |
WalterN | or some/all of these? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix#Other_Postfix_Guides | 09:38 |
mardraum | WalterN: yeah amavisd-new, postgrey and SPF records for your domains | 09:50 |
mardraum | WalterN: and spamhaus ZEN list | 09:50 |
WalterN | erm, what? :-x | 09:52 |
mardraum | WalterN: google.com | 09:52 |
WalterN | I normally prefer asking in IRC before google, but w/e | 09:53 |
mardraum | you asked, I answered | 09:53 |
mardraum | if you just "erm what" then you need to google | 09:53 |
WalterN | so spamassassin is not as typical? | 09:54 |
mardraum | it's part of amavisd-new | 09:54 |
WalterN | oh ok | 09:54 |
mardraum | the other things will stop the shit actually getting to amavisd-new | 09:55 |
mardraum | go read about them. | 09:55 |
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greppy | WalterN: I have used this in the past on ubuntu and debian servers: http://www200.pair.com/mecham/spam/ | 11:58 |
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hallyn | lifeless: can you open a bug detailing how it interferes? | 12:21 |
hallyn | lifeless: do you mean that you do a one-filesystem backup of /var and want all containers backed up by that? | 12:22 |
lifeless | hallyn: yes | 12:22 |
lifeless | hallyn: I'm presuming the answer is 'there is no way to disable it today' | 12:23 |
hallyn | lifeless: you're telling me that if i mount btrfs at /mnt, and create a new subvolume at /mnt/a, then --one-filesystem will not traverse /mnt/a? | 12:24 |
lifeless | hallyn: correct | 12:24 |
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lifeless | hallyn: it may be constrained by 'when /mnt/a is mounted' | 12:24 |
hallyn | you dont' mount subvolumes though | 12:25 |
lifeless | hallyn: I ran into this with /home earlier today - noticed I had nothing in my home backups for this year | 12:25 |
hallyn | is there a btrfs mount option to not do that? | 12:25 |
lifeless | hallyn: because the fstab for a new install with btrfs has a mount rule for home. | 12:25 |
lifeless | hallyn: you could argue that it's broken rsync one-file-system heuristics, though IMO if its in the mount table, treating it as a mount point is pretty sane ;) | 12:26 |
hallyn | why is it in the mount table | 12:26 |
hallyn | it didnt' use to be | 12:26 |
lifeless | hallyn: search me | 12:27 |
lifeless | /dev/mapper/lifelesshp-root /home btrfs defaults,noatime,subvol=@home 0 2 | 12:27 |
lifeless | hallyn: see #ubuntu-devel about the time I pinged you, I had a chat with RAOF about it | 12:27 |
hallyn | lifeless: i have 5 subvolumes under /home/serge/lxcbase, and they do not show up in 'mount' | 12:28 |
lifeless | hallyn: right, they need to be mounted | 12:29 |
lifeless | hallyn: I don't know offhand whether it's a) being a subvolume or b) being in mtab that breaks --one-file-system. | 12:30 |
lifeless | hallyn: I can drill into it | 12:30 |
hallyn | lifeless: I don't understand | 12:30 |
hallyn | lifeless: 'mounted' by who? | 12:30 |
hallyn | the contents are there without mounting them. | 12:30 |
lifeless | hallyn: I'll chat another time; its 0030 here. | 12:30 |
hallyn | lifeless: np - thanks | 12:30 |
hallyn | lifeless: one thing, | 12:30 |
lifeless | hallyn: see above w.r.t. /home which sent me down the path of looking at this for lxc too | 12:30 |
hallyn | i wonder if what is actually screwing you up is the default behavior of lxc to always bind-mount rootfs for containers - btrfs or not | 12:31 |
lifeless | hallyn: and /home is mounted by fstab which the installer sets up. | 12:31 |
hallyn | lifeless: ok, thanks. ttyl. | 12:31 |
lifeless | I need to mount my crypted backups to check whether lxc containers are missing or not | 12:31 |
lifeless | and yeah thats a good point | 12:31 |
hallyn | ok. they really shouldn't be | 12:31 |
* hallyn hopes he doesn't have to redesign the whole thing :) | 12:32 | |
lifeless | well there may be multiple issues at play :> | 12:32 |
lifeless | anyhow, another day! gnight | 12:32 |
hallyn | gnight | 12:32 |
koolhead11 | hallyn, hi there | 12:33 |
hallyn | hey | 12:43 |
koolhead11 | how have you been | 12:46 |
hallyn | all right. yourself? | 12:47 |
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hallyn | stgraber: uh, hopefully you've not made any updates to lxc staging branch in the last hour | 12:55 |
stgraber | hallyn: nope, I haven't. I'm at debconf so unlikely to do a lot of commits this week. | 12:55 |
stgraber | hallyn: I'm looking at LXC on Android at the moment, specifically getting a local implementation of getifaddrs | 12:56 |
hallyn | stgraber: ok - no reason for me saying that, carry on :) | 12:56 |
hallyn | fun | 12:56 |
hallyn | i'm *seriously* soon gonna dogfood ubuntu phone in qmeu phone soon, not sure if android under that will be good for testing lxc in | 12:57 |
zul | roaksoax/jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-heatclient/refresh/+merge/179695 | 13:05 |
zul | jamespage/roaksoax: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-keystoneclient/netaddr/+merge/179699 | 13:17 |
jamespage | zul,-1 feedback in MP | 13:18 |
zul | argh | 13:18 |
zul | jamespage: hes my evil twin who didnt have his DEBEMAIL set | 13:20 |
zul | jamespage: fixed now | 13:20 |
jamespage | zul, still does not look like a new upstream release to me | 13:23 |
zul | jamespage: how about now/ | 13:24 |
jamespage | zul, +1 | 13:27 |
zul | jamespage: thanks | 13:28 |
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bkfitz | trying to allow my developers to upload code to my apache instance via sftp... questions: what should the permissions be on /var/www? I believe Openssh is handling the sftp, how do I change the default directory to /var/www/codetest? How do I grant the 'ftpuploader' user permissions to this folder but not the rest of /var/www | 15:05 |
darthanubis | Ubuntu 13.04 - add-apt-repository is not adding repos | 15:30 |
darthanubis | no error, and lsb_release -a results in a segmentation fault | 15:31 |
darthanubis | look for an assist? | 15:31 |
* darthanubis back to google | 15:32 | |
darthanubis | the web only shows ppl that have the not found error, but I do haveit installed | 15:33 |
darthanubis | yes, I could edit the source.list by hand, just like add apt for the lazy | 15:34 |
darthanubis | and am curious why anything on the system does not work as intended | 15:34 |
darthanubis | http://pastebin.com/A6WkxsVf | 15:37 |
darthanubis | I can't remove python-software-properties | 15:48 |
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red6m | is it possible to delete a paste from http://paste.ubuntu.com/ ? | 16:45 |
andol | red6m: Well, if it is critically important enough I guess you might be able to convenince someone with root access to do that for you... | 16:59 |
red6m | andol, yeah. I guess I'll wait if it disappears n 30 days - and after that I might gonna have to find someone to delete it :-\ posted confidential shit by mistake. | 17:03 |
ribo | is something wrong with us-west-2.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com? | 17:29 |
ribo | Failed to fetch http://us-west-2.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-libc-dev_3.8.0-26.38_amd64.deb 403 Forbidden | 17:29 |
sarnold | ribo: note that ec2 reports "403" when other servers might report "404". | 17:29 |
sarnold | s/ec2/s3/ | 17:30 |
ribo | I still have the same question, then :) | 17:30 |
sarnold | ribo: so if you're asking for files that have not yet synced over, or have been removed, the 403 response can be extremely confusing :) | 17:30 |
ribo | was an apt-get upgrade :| | 17:31 |
sarnold | ribo: perhaps you caught it in the middle of a resync.. try again in a few minutes. | 17:34 |
ribo | not usually one to complain about things I'm getting for free, but that kinda sucks for auto provisioning instances, heh | 17:37 |
ribo | guess I'll just wait then | 17:37 |
darthanubis | I can't remove python-software-properties | 17:58 |
darthanubis | http://pastebin.com/A6WkxsVf | 17:58 |
darthanubis | looking for an assist? | 17:58 |
ogra_ | check your logs for filesystem errors i would guess ... and if you have enough space ... that file doesnt just go corrupt out of nowhere | 18:00 |
qman__ | darthanubis, looks like your dpkg database is broken | 18:08 |
qman__ | as already mentioned, check that /var didn't run out of space, and try to correct the error on that line | 18:08 |
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zul | adam_g/roaksoax: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/keystone/babel/+merge/179780 | 19:11 |
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darthanubis | ogra_, thx, qman__ var did not run out of space. But would a corrupted FS also break my dpkg? I suppose. | 20:41 |
Pici | 70 | 20:41 |
qman__ | darthanubis, yes | 20:42 |
s0m3body | Hello, was wondering how I could install Ubuntu Server over SSH through the server's recovery console? | 20:48 |
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darthanubis | qman__, thx | 20:57 |
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failmaster | hey guys, i have a problem switching luks passphrase auth to key file based for root fs, details: http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization anyone? | 21:11 |
fbdystang | Hi, does IMAP on port 143 require an MX record or an A record? Thanks | 21:18 |
guntbert | fbdystang: neither | 21:20 |
s0m3body | Well, it does require an A record, but the actual port doesn;t | 21:21 |
s0m3body | doesn't * | 21:21 |
fbdystang | guntbert: URL? | 21:21 |
* s0m3body points out the fact that if you don't know what kind of record it needs, you shouldn't be setting up a mail server | 21:22 | |
fbdystang | s0m3body: right but does the external DNS see it as an A record? | 21:22 |
s0m3body | fbdystang: what do you mean? | 21:22 |
fbdystang | hehe, I am a noob but I already have it set up and working with pop3. Trying to get IMAP working | 21:23 |
s0m3body | if you set an A record, every DNS (should) see it as an A record.. | 21:23 |
guntbert | fbdystang: are you talking about setting up a mail server? the client just needs to get the IP address, hence you would need an A record for the mail server | 21:23 |
fbdystang | guntbert: Thank you , that answers my question :) | 21:23 |
guntbert | fbdystang: if pop3 works the DNS is ok | 21:23 |
fbdystang | I had my external DNS service pointing to my imap port as an MX record, and I think that is what is causing issues | 21:24 |
s0m3body | yep | 21:25 |
guntbert | fbdystang: DNS doesn't deal with ports at all | 21:25 |
genii | Well, port 53 ;-) | 21:25 |
guntbert | genii: splitting hairs? it *uses* 53 :-) | 21:26 |
* genii slides guntbert a tasty coffee | 21:27 | |
guntbert | what I need now - before going to bed - hmmm | 21:27 |
fbdystang | So, if IMAP comes in on an IP, not a port, how does it resolve to 143? | 21:29 |
genii | fbdystang: The protocol itself... so the server listens on 143, and whatever client is trying 143 | 21:30 |
storrgie | Would anyone know where I should go with an issue like this: I've got a usb audio device (DAC) plugging into an ubuntu server build and the device appears to be disconnecting and reconnecting repeatedly (https://gist.github.com/storrgie/03b65e769de393e9cf0a) | 21:35 |
sarnold | storrgie: in wild-guess land, perhaps it is waiting for a driver to download some firmware to the device? | 21:38 |
sarnold | storrgie: do you know if it is supposed to work well under linux? can you run a usb sniffer of some sort under windows and see what it does? compare / contrast with a sniffer under linux? | 21:39 |
storrgie | sarnold, I believe its supposed to work well under linux, however the manufacture doesn't support it working well under linux | 21:47 |
storrgie | sarnold, I'm actually trying to email the engineer that worked on the usb interface to get some info from him | 21:54 |
storrgie | I'm guessing its on their end | 21:54 |
sarnold | storrgie: do re-check the docs to see if there is firmware or other userspace tools you need to run to make it work | 21:55 |
storrgie | sarnold, thanks! | 21:57 |
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LargePrime | hey helpful ones. installing open vpn using the 12.04 guide. | 22:16 |
LargePrime | https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openvpn.html | 22:16 |
LargePrime | it fails at "source vars" | 22:16 |
LargePrime | ************************************************************** | 22:17 |
sarnold | fails how? | 22:17 |
LargePrime | No /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/openssl.cnf file could be found | 22:17 |
LargePrime | Further invocations will fail | 22:17 |
LargePrime | ************************************************************** | 22:17 |
LargePrime | is ther error? | 22:17 |
LargePrime | https://forums.openvpn.net/topic8819.html | 22:17 |
LargePrime | has a fix | 22:17 |
LargePrime | to just point at the config | 22:17 |
LargePrime | any thoughts? it that a good idea? | 22:17 |
SuperLag | grub seems different than what I remember it | 22:21 |
SuperLag | How do you change which kernel boots, by default, if several are listed in the menu.lst file? | 22:21 |
LargePrime | sarnold: sorry i have been inturupted. i'll be back in an hour. hope you are here | 22:22 |
LargePrime | and thank you | 22:22 |
genii | SuperLag: Grub2 doesn't use menu.lst | 22:48 |
genii | SuperLag: You have to edit /etc/default/grub file and add a line: GRUB_DEFAULT=# ...where # is the entry you want to be default. Then sudo update-grub | 22:50 |
failmaster | guys, where can i read about booting system over grub 2 related to detailed sequence, mostly about how it gets us into initrd image and how control being passed through stages of boot? please, sorry for my retarded english | 23:30 |
genii | !grub2 | 23:32 |
ubottu | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 | 23:32 |
failmaster | genii, i've been there, but from what i read i don't get the next thing: our initrd image is sotred on filesystem which normally has mount point at /boot later on a booted system, i need to have a clue on how it gets mounted from the very first stages and when it becomes accessible and from which mount points (if there are some others but /boot as far as i know there are none) | 23:35 |
sarnold | failmaster: grub2 can understand a lot of different types of filesystems | 23:36 |
sarnold | failmaster: so it can read initrd and kernel images off of filesystems without needing the disk blocks hard-coded (as lilo required) | 23:37 |
failmaster | sarnold, yeah i know that, at least it comes as a conclusion due to the fact it needs fs modules necessary to read from that /boot device it's installed on | 23:37 |
failmaster | sarnold, what i don't understand is why people telling me that there is no way my bootloader media is mounted and accessible during initrd stage | 23:39 |
genii | The full official documentation is at http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html | 23:43 |
failmaster | same problem trying to make rootfs device unlocked on boot using keyfile /boot/key but today, one guys gave me a tip, saying it shouldn't work like that http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization | 23:44 |
failmaster | genii, oh, thanks, sorry for being banned in google lol | 23:44 |
LargePrime | sarnold: I am back | 23:48 |
sarnold | hey LargePrime, any luck? | 23:50 |
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