[00:02] <tigrang> I have an atheros wifi card. With kernel 3.2 my connection is stable, I restart to latest 3.11 and my connection fails to connect or its very unstable. I was reading a bug report that said it was fixed in RC4, but I'm still having issues with it. Anyone else experiencing this or any suggestions? Thank you
[00:03] <TJ-> tigrang: Which kernel module drives the hardware? Is it a mainline module, or added via DKMS or some other out-of-tree mechanism?
[00:03] <OerHeks> tigrang, "latest 3.11" ? how did you install that kernel, raring is @ 3.8.0-27
[00:03] <tigrang> TJ-: ath9k
[00:03] <tigrang> OerHeks: from mainline kernel site
[00:04] <tigrang> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/daily/
[00:05] <tigrang> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5975484/
[00:05] <TJ-> tigrang: Any entries in /var/log/kern.log indicating problems?
[00:05] <Raging> any python dudes here?
[00:05] <GeekDude> Quick question: Why won't my iptables rule "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080" stick around after reboot?
[00:05] <GeekDude> Raging: you might want to check #python
[00:05] <jrib> GeekDude: where are you putting them?
[00:05] <GeekDude> jrib: Terminal
[00:05] <jrib> !iptables | GeekDude
[00:06] <jrib> GeekDude: you can read the iptables page on the wiki if you want to store and restore your iptables rules
[00:06] <TJ-> GeekDude: You will need to use iptables-save or some other firewall mechanism (such as UFW or Shorewall) to save and restore rules at shutdown/startup
[00:06] <GeekDude> I tried iptables-save, but it didn't seem to help
[00:06] <jrib> GeekDude: read the wki
[00:06] <jrib> wiki even
[00:07] <rypervenche> GeekDude: YOu need to install iptables-persistent
[00:07] <TJ-> GeekDude: If you use iptables-save, then there needs to be a script at start-up that runs iptables-restore
[00:08] <minidino> I tryed to use GParted to shrink one partition and expand/move another. Something failed and now my partitons are screwy. I saved the gparted details file. Can anyone help me?
[00:09] <tigrang> TJ-: a bunch of these http://paste.ubuntu.com/5975494/
[00:10] <tigrang> TJ-: wlan0: AP {{redacted mac address}} changed bandwidth in a way we can't support - disconnect
[00:13] <TJ-> tigrang: I'd think the issue is this "changed bandwidth, new config is 2417 MHz, width 1 (2417/0 MHz)" ... the /0 would presumably be the channel bandwidth which should be 20 or 40Mhz ... I'd need to check the source to be sure
[00:14] <TJ-> tigrang: cfg80211 seems to be showing its trying for 40MHz channels covering that frequency
[00:23] <Inertiatic> hi guys
[00:23] <Inertiatic> how do i upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04?
[00:23] <IdleOne> !upgrade
[00:23] <jrib> !upgrade | Inertiatic
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> Inertiatic:  the do-release-upgrade command is commonly used.
[00:23] <Inertiatic> cool, thanks guys!
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> im suprised it hasent asked you to upgrade.
[00:24] <Inertiatic> it did a few months ago
[00:24] <Inertiatic> but i didn't want to
[00:24] <Inertiatic> and now it stopped asking :-|
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> I just upgraded an old 12.10 box today. :)
[00:24] <FlailGameDev> Ubuntu is crashing on me and it wants to send system reports. I don't want to send the system report. I would like to read it, however. Where do I find a list of system errors that would be reported if they could be? Like Event Viewer in Windows.
[00:24] <maggie_> Didn't have to configure anything, it logged right in
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> !apport
[00:25] <Inertiatic> nice Dr_Willis, that command seems to work
[00:25] <Inertiatic> thanks
[00:25] <tigrang> TJ-: know of anything I can try besides turning power savings off and nohwcrypt=1?
[00:27] <TJ-> tigrang: I'd add to the Linux bugzilla that it doesn't seem to be fixed, if you're sure the patch is included in the build you're using
[00:31] <wiak> how do i completly disable notify osd?
[00:31] <wiak> i cant remove the package as its needed by ubuntu-desktop and gnome-power-manger :O
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> wiak:  ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> no idea what gnome-power manager does. ;)
[00:33] <wiak> Dr_Willis, its a battery power config app i think
[00:33] <wiak> it basicly makes laptop sleep when lid is closed
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> wiak:  why do you want to disable it? theres a 3rd party 'configurable' osd -> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/configurable-notifyosd-updated-for.html
[00:34] <wiak> Dr_Willis,  well when i use fn + volume keys my whole system stops taking keyboard/mouse commands
[00:34] <wiak> and i think its related to osd etc, as its buggy
[00:35] <wiak> when i take one press to turn up volume it will go to 100%..
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> pkill notify-osd         perhaps and see if that kills it.
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> and see if the issue still happens?
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> actually notify-osd may restart..
[00:36] <trism> wiak: you can install notification-daemon and then you can remove notify-osd
[00:36] <trism> wiak: notification-daemon won't start automatically in unity
[00:37] <Dr_Willis> http://linuxg.net/how-to-clear-ubuntu-notifications-from-notifyosd/
[00:37] <wiak> i dont need any notify so i want to remove them compleley
[00:37] <Dr_Willis> somthing seems weird with that last URL.. im not sure the guy is correct in his assumptions. ;)
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> he just purages the notifyosd package basically ;)
[00:38] <trism> yeah he isn't, dbus will restart notify-osd, and that isn't even the correct package name
[00:38] <trism> wiak: yes, but you can't without removing other things
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> trism:  yea. :) i wasent sure which guide was correct and which was wrong
[00:38] <trism> wiak: but again, notification-daemon will not start automatically like notify-osd in most sessions
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> !bug 702042
[00:43] <trism> although without a notification daemon, you will start getting volume/brightness osd updates from gnome-settings-daemon, so...
[00:51] <KyleUK> Are there any PostgreSQL experts here?
[00:51] <reisio> KyleUK: higher percentage in #postgresql
[00:51] <KyleUK> I tried there, but it's totally dead.
[00:51] <TJ-> KyleUK:   At 01:51? of course!
[00:52] <ozzloy> test
[00:52] <El_Presidente> i have a problem with vlc ... im running ubuntu 12.04.2 when i start playing an iptv stream the sound is about 8 seconds too early but that decays within 30 seconds ... any idea?
[00:52] <Guest54050> #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:53] <Guest54050> oops, sorry
[00:55] <tigrang> TJ-: thanks for the help, I opened a bug report, I'll see what happens
[00:55] <tigrang> I love 3.11 for all the radeon improvements, but man wifi is killing me
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> El_Presidente:  decays? you mean it catches up then plays properly?
[00:56] <TJ-> tigrang: I've been using 3.10/.11 too; fixed a really annoying 802.11n bug on the AP card driver
[00:57] <El_Presidente> Dr_Willis, yes after 30-40 seconds sound and video are synced
[00:57] <El_Presidente> and stay that way
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> El_Presidente:  sounds like some sort of buffering going on. you might want to ask in the vlc channels. theres may be some option to buffer more befor starting the video stream
[00:58]  * Dr_Willis is glad he finally got VLC for his Android devices. ;)
[00:58] <El_Presidente> understood ty Dr_Willis
[00:59] <wiak> me agin
[01:00] <wiak> am gonna forget using fn + keys in linux forward
[01:00] <wiak> :P
[01:00] <wiak> to buggy
[01:00] <wiak> for me
[01:01] <jc_> how can I make shutdown not require sudo
[01:01] <reisio> jc_: are you using GNOME/Unity?
[01:01] <jc_> gnome
[01:01] <reisio> that should be able to shut down without sudo
[01:01] <jc_> but I want to do it from the command line
[01:01] <reisio> right right
[01:01] <reisio> what's wrong with using sudo?
[01:01] <TJ-> jc_: Add an entry into /etc/sudoers
[01:01] <reisio> it's an extra five chars
[01:02] <El_Presidente> Dr_Willis, well i increased caching to max but the video still starts too late
[01:02] <reisio> TJ-: wouldn't that still use sudo? :p
[01:02] <El_Presidente> i dont think it is a caching error
[01:02] <El_Presidente> i will file a bug report at ubuntu ...
[01:02] <TJ-> reisio: But you'd not need to enter a password
[01:03] <jc_> I tried but messed up my  sudoers file and now I have to start over (its a vm so its no bit deal. do yo know the correct way to do it?
[01:03] <Orxata_> hi
[01:03] <Orxata_> I can't see images on my web browser
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> El_Presidente:  check with the vlc guys/channel. you could paste the url to the stream so others in here can see if it happens with them also.
[01:04] <wiak> if your sudoesrs file are messed do this, reboot into recovery and go to root and then mount -o rw,remount / and then pico /etc/sudoers
[01:04] <wiak> :P
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> El_Presidente:  you may not need the cache to be max. but it to start AFTER its cached a lot.. of cours it could be some quirk with the stream also.
[01:05] <reisio> jc_: should say in the file
[01:05] <reisio> jc_: but probably: %users ALL = NOPASSWD:/sbin/shutdown
[01:05] <jc_> reisio: thanks I'll try it
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> jc_:  one 'dirty' way to do it - is set the suid bit on the shutdown command. ;)
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> jc_:  then anyone can just type shutdown
[01:06] <TJ-> jc_: Here's the entry from one of my servers for someone with restricted permissions: "eddie  jeeves = NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown, PASSWD: /sbin/ifup, /sbin/ifconfig, /sbin/ip, /usr/sbin/service"
[01:06] <El_Presidente> Dr_Willis, unfortunately i cant share a stream since it is german iptv ...
[01:06] <jc_> cool I see what I did wrong
[01:06] <Llucid> Where might I find the log for command histories?
[01:07] <reisio> Llucid: for sudo?
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> Llucid:  the bash history is in .history normally
[01:07] <Dr_Willis> but it may not be totally correct. if you have several shells open
[01:07] <TJ-> Bash history is ~/.bash_history
[01:07] <Llucid> Preferably sudo lined,Yes.
[01:07] <Llucid> Thank you.
[01:07] <jc_> since I just messed the sudoers file is there anything I can do to fix it? or do I just rebuild the system
[01:08] <TJ-> Llucid: For sudo commands look in /var/log/auth.log
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> jc_:  find the default sudoers file and replace it.
[01:08] <TJ-> jc_: boot to recovery (which gives you a root terminal) and fix it, or boot from an external device (USB, DVD) and fix it from there
[01:09] <TJ-> jc_: The sudo package contains a sample file at /usr/share/doc/sudo/examples/sample.sudoers
[01:10] <Llucid> What is the sudo line to open File System?
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> Llucid:  clarify wht you mean
[01:11] <Llucid> I wish to open /File System/ through sudo
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> open it in what program?
[01:12] <Llucid> Program? I have been told the line before, Something alike "sudo ts___"
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> you can access a directory in nautilus as root via  'gksudo nautilus /path/to/location' but its NOT a good habbit to run nautilus as root
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> I got no idea what you mean by 'ts*'  opening a 'filesystem' is a little vague.. accessing a DIRECTORY is  done as above
[01:13] <TJ-> jc_: To get the original /etc/sudoers file, if you don't have sudo access to reinstall the package ("sudo apt-get --reinstall install sudo") then grab the source: "cd /tmp; apt-get source sudo; less sudo-1.8.8p3/debian/sudoers;"
[01:14] <TJ-> Llucid: I believe what you mean to say is, you wish to 'mount' a file-system ?
[01:14] <Llucid> Dr_Willis; It was a simple two worded line, It opened my File Manager
[01:14] <Llucid> Using sudo*
[01:14] <jrib> jc_: also make sure you use "visudo" to edit the sudoers file from now on
[01:14] <Llucid> Sorry to say File System, Mistake.
[01:15] <jc_> jrib: why visudo?
[01:15] <jrib> jc_: because it checks for syntax errors before saving
[01:15] <jc_> jrib: nice thanks
[01:16] <jrib> jc_: it exists exactly to prevent the situation you are in now ;)
[01:17] <Euripides_Lamont> Hello everyone, Euripides_Lamonthere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[01:17] <Dr_Willis> Llucid:  nautilus is the file manager by default. i dont know of any that begin with 'ts'
[01:17] <Llucid> The sudo line to open File Mannager please.
[01:17] <Dr_Willis> Llucid:  'gksudo nautilus'  opens the file manager as root.
[01:18] <Llucid> Attempting to help a friend who has had his system /possibly/ compromised.
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> Llucid:  unless you are not using Ubuntu, but some other desktop
[01:18] <Llucid> Yes, Xubuntu 13.04.
[01:18] <Llucid> I merely come here due to the greater chance of aid.
[01:19] <TJ-> You're thinking of Thunar, then
[01:19] <Llucid> Yes TJ
[01:19] <TJ-> Llucid: Alt+F2 then "gksudo thunar"
[01:20] <Llucid> TJ; Done. Thank you kindly.
[01:20] <TJ-> Or, much better, Accessories > Terminal ... lovely command line :)
[01:20] <Llucid> Ah, But wait... What is the gk in gksudo for?
[01:20] <Llucid> I merely used sudo thunar
[01:21] <TJ-> gksudo is for the GTK GUI
[01:21] <Llucid> The difference being?..
[01:21] <TJ-> You should always use gksudo in the GUI because it ensures the environment is configured correctly
[01:21] <scathen^C> hey all, i am having trouble raiding the ulimit for open files. I have followed these instructions, but they don't work (http://askubuntu.com/questions/162229/how-do-i-increase-the-open-files-limit-for-a-non-root-user)
[01:21] <Llucid> TJ; I see, Thank you again.
[01:22] <zykotick9> Llucid: for more details see the link in "/msg ubottu gksudo"
[01:22] <jrib> scathen^C: did you read the first answer?
[01:22] <Llucid> Ah; I forget of that zykotick9.
[01:23] <scathen^C> jrib: of course. tried all those things, and it won't change
[01:23] <jrib> scathen^C: ok, well then say step by step what you did and show in a pastebin (commands, contents of files, etc.)
[01:24] <TJ-> scathen^C: Are you trying to raise the limit for a particular application?
[01:24] <scathen^C> yeah (neo4j)
[01:24] <scathen^C> http://docs.neo4j.org/chunked/stable/configuration-linux-notes.html
[01:24] <Llucid> What is this "session closed by user nobody" my auth.log speaks of?
[01:24] <scathen^C> tried those exact instructions
[01:25] <t_rex> cn smone halp me?
[01:25] <t_rex> please?
[01:25] <t_rex> Its really importnt
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> Llucid:  dont use just 'sudo' for gui apps.. use 'gksudo'
[01:25] <jrib> !who | scathen^C
[01:25] <t_rex> is anybdy thre?
[01:25] <TJ-> scathen^C: What user does the neo4j process run as? your own user ID?
[01:26] <Llucid> Dr_Willis; I have/did so.
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> Llucid:  using just 'sudo' can cause issues with files not getting the right permissions
[01:26] <t_rex> i need halp
[01:26] <t_rex> help me plz
[01:26] <scathen^C> TJ-: neo4j, but i've set the limits in the conf file as * which I thought was everyone.
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> t_rex:  then state the problem
[01:27] <t_rex> i was trying t dlete some files
[01:27] <t_rex> and clear som space
[01:27] <TJ-> scathen^C: Correct. Did you also uncomment "# session    required   pam_limits.so" in /etc/pam.d/su ?
[01:27] <t_rex> and my accidentaly deleted ststem 32
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> t_rex:  you mean you deleted files off your windows hard drive?
[01:28] <t_rex> no its ubntu
[01:28] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  Hey, I just wanted to say I solved it. Aparrently I had the path wrong which was why it wasn't executing. So thanks for your help in telling me to create an execute script. It works!!
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  :) proper path is key to proper programs ;P
[01:28] <t_rex> i delete my ubntu systm 32
[01:28] <bazhang> !enter | t_rex
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> t_rex:  whats the EXACT path you deleted.. your typos are confuseing things.
[01:28] <scathen^C> TJ-: yeah, pam_limits is uncommented. I just changed the limits to the neo4j user specifically, ill let you know if it works
[01:29] <Llucid> Some of these auth logs do not appear to be of my doing per say...
[01:29] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  BWAHAHAHAHAHA Aaayy, coming back and looking at it in a calm light helps too
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  yep. its the little things that  are alwsy the big problem
[01:29] <t_rex> the fle was in /ubuntu/system 32
[01:30] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  Indeed, welp, I just came back to say that it works and you helpeed a ton. I'm off to play somr FF
[01:30] <TJ-> Llucid: some system processes might cause entries in auth.log
[01:30] <jrib> scathen^C: make sure you're logging in again too.  But to properly troubleshoot this you need to show in detail what you've done so we don't have to keep guessing
[01:30] <t_rex> can some one help m
[01:31] <Llucid> TJ; What should I look for in instances of /hackers/?
[01:32] <t_rex> why is no body hlp me?
[01:32] <TJ-> Llucid: I don't understand the question. If you're looking for signs of intruders it depends on what you think they might have been doing
[01:33] <t_rex> the fle was in /ubuntu/system 32
[01:33] <t_rex> why is no body hlp me?
[01:33] <t_rex> can some one help m
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> t_rex:  theres no /ubuntu/system 32 directory by default that ive ever seen
[01:34] <Llucid> TJ; Well, My friend has said he walked out of his room and returned to see a terminal opened run lines and close at very high speeds, And that his download history had been deleted. He thinks he may have someone using his connection for activities not suiting a person of his stature.
[01:34] <t_rex> it ws on when i install but then i saw something on internet say 'dlete systm32' and i delte and my ubntu stooped working.
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> t_rex:   you are using a WUBI install or a normal install?
[01:35] <TJ-> Llucid: OK, first thing to do is shut it down. Then, boot from a USB stick or LiveCD so you know there are no trojans running, and then inspect the system carefully, looking for recent (date/time) changes in core system configurations, and in the user home directories
[01:35] <t_rex> can some one help m
[01:35] <t_rex> can some one help m
[01:36] <t_rex> can some one help m
[01:36] <FloodBot1> t_rex: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:36] <Llucid> TJ; This cannot be done without myself being there.
[01:36] <t_rex> why is no body hlp me?
[01:36] <t_rex> it ws on when i install but then i saw something on internet say 'dlete systm32' and i delte and my ubntu stooped working.
[01:36] <Llucid> TJ; Do you have PMs disabled?
[01:36] <t_rex> the fle was in /ubuntu/system 32
[01:37] <t_rex> ths is usless
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> t_rex:  your rambling is useless. that directory does not exist on a normal install
[01:39] <Streusel> :/
[01:40] <MonkWitDaFunk>  Hi dr_willis, how do i use the truecypt security model as a user without root access?
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> MonkWitDaFunk:  no idea.i dont use tryecrypt
[01:48] <Llucid> TJ-; Are you busy? It is not my intentions to pester you by any means.
[01:52] <TJ-> Llucid: I am; I have a major disk recovery operation going on
[01:53] <Llucid> TJ-; I see; Sorry to disturb. I really require your aid in this matter, May I PM you my email for a later time?
[01:55] <TJ-> Llucid: We're all volunteers, just giving tips whilst not having anything better to do. I can't help any more than the tips I can give in this channel
[01:56] <Llucid> TJ-; Very well, Thank you for the aid provided.
[01:58] <James_Epp> Generic question here. I want to loop some commands. In windows batch scripts, I would do a ":section" "insert code" and then "goto section". How do you do this in bash?
[02:00] <TJ-> James_Epp: In a shell script you'd use a "while true; do something; done" loop
[02:03] <James_Epp> TJ-: How does this look? while true; clear; acpi -b; done;
[02:03] <abaddon> Ahhh...yet another question for the wonderful Ubu group. I'm looking for a very light file manager that still has a gui. It would be nice if it still looked like a nautilus or caja type fm. Any suggestions out there? I've used xfe, nautilus, caja, gnome commander, tux commander spacefm, and 4pane. They just don't suit me too well.
[02:04] <James_Epp> abaddon: Thunar
[02:04] <TJ-> James_Epp: That'll be endless. The "true" is supposed to represent some test that will at some point become "false" and end the loop and script
[02:04] <James_Epp> Not too many features, however.
[02:05] <abaddon> James_Epp,  I should add that it has to be nearly independant in operation. ie, not reliant on kde, gnome, unity, etc
[02:05] <chamunks> anyone know the arg for tar that omits the full path when I'm tar'ing something.  "tar -cvfz $USR.tar.gz /home/$USR"
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  try rox-filer
[02:06] <chamunks> thats putting the entire path /home/$USR into the tar I want to be able to extract $USR onto the desination without the whole path.
[02:06] <James_Epp> TJ-: Hypothetically speaking, if acpi were installed on windows and "clear" worked, this is what the batch script would look like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5975736/
[02:06] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  tried that. it's...ok...not great...just...ok.
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  it has some features that i really really wish other fm;s had
[02:06] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  such as?
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> abaddon:  select a group of files and try 'rename' and see that neat trick it has
[02:07] <James_Epp> abaddon: Perhaps some kind of PHP file manager you could access via a web GUI?
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> i tend to just use 'mc' most of the time. :) or some other dual pane file maangers
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> !info gentoo
[02:08] <TJ-> James_Epp: Is there a reason for the 'clear' because that'd almost instantly wipe out what "acpi -b" reported
[02:08] <TJ-> James_Epp: Are you trying to detect some condition or just watch the value?
[02:09] <James_Epp> TJ-: Watch the value.
[02:09] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  Oh yeahh...not something I need at though. And James_Epp I would much prefer it to be stand alone from other uhhh stuff. There was an fm I tried once that resembled tux and gnome commander but I can't find it. It also was independant from the terminal.
[02:09] <James_Epp> abaddon: I have no suggestions
[02:09] <abaddon> James_Epp,  thanks bud for trying. =p
[02:10] <TJ-> James_Epp: "watch -n 10 acpi -b"
[02:10] <Guest1413> So I screwed up my partitions and then used testdisk to try and fix thigs. I did Anylize and tried to write the partition table. Testdisk told me to restart to apply changes. I did and all I got was a grub recovery consol. I booted a liveCD and the entire HDD now shows as unallocated space. What do?
[02:10] <TJ-> James_Epp: That'll run the command every 10 seconds
[02:10] <James_Epp> TJ-: Thank you.
[02:11] <James_Epp> Do you know of any bash video tuts on youtube that are pretty good?
[02:11] <TJ-> James_Epp: Video is lots of wasted bandwidth. I always go to http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[02:11] <TJ-> James_Epp: That is my bible
[02:12] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  I tried many Fm's but none sing to me the way I want 'em to. XD I'm so picky....
[02:13] <abaddon> Dr_Willis,  I've tried looking for a list of FM's on the web but they're so short and generally list the same 10 fm's i've tried
[02:13] <James_Epp> TJ-: Thanks, man! Need to watch how long my netbook can last as a portable router.
[02:14] <lawltoad> whats the preffered way to make a USB Windows8 bootable for installation in raring?
[02:16] <TJ-> James_Epp: Why not have it simply record it?
[02:18] <reisio> lawltoad: http://serverfault.com/questions/6714/how-to-make-windows-7-usb-flash-install-media-from-linux#answer-167060
[02:18] <TJ-> James_Epp: 'while true; do echo "$(date +%Y-%m-%d,\ %H:%M:%S) $(acpi -b)" >> marathon.log; sleep 30; done'
[02:19] <TJ-> James_Epp: That'll write a timestamped log to "marathon.log" ... after the device goes to sleep/dies, you can read that file to get the power and time profile
[02:19] <lawltoad> reisio, is ms-sys not in the repos?
[02:19] <reisio> lawltoad: possibly not
[02:21] <James_Epp> TJ-: SO...many....variables......and dollar signs. *shivers*
[02:22] <TJ-> James_Epp: Well no, the $(...) is the shell's way of allowing you to run a sub-shell process and replace then call with whatever the sub-shell wrote to STDOUT
[02:23] <TJ-> s/then/that/
[02:24] <James_Epp> TJ-: Let's just say this is the most "advanced" bash script I've ever done. Even then, I used a GUI for cron and grsync to get out the rsync script :))
[02:24] <James_Epp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5975775/
[02:25] <TJ-> James_Epp: we all start somewhere. I often know bash can do things but can't remember how so return to that advanced scripting guide
[02:26] <James_Epp> TJ-: I definitely thank you for the resource, I'll take a look at it when I don't have some random weird project pop into my head.
[02:26] <ace_striker> i am in huge trouble..my system is network disabled and it shows it is running in low graphics mode...udev has been mishandled ..is there any chance i can get my ubuntu back ?
[02:27] <ace_striker> #ubuntu-dev
[02:28] <ChrisMaQ> good night guys
[02:28] <ace_striker> wait for em
[02:29] <ace_striker> i am in huge trouble..my system is network disabled and it shows it is running in low graphics mode...udev has been mishandled ..is there any chance i can get my ubuntu back ?
[02:30] <ace_striker> i am in huge trouble..my system is network disabled and it shows it is running in low graphics mode...udev has been mishandled ..is there any chance i can get my ubuntu back ?
[02:37] <ChrisMaQ> can anyone tell me if its possible to get skype running perfectly in ubuntu 12.04?
[02:37] <reisio> yes it is
[02:37] <ace_striker> i am in huge trouble..my system is network disabled and it shows it is running in low graphics mode...udev has been mishandled ..is there any chance i can get my ubuntu back ?
[02:38] <aneks> does anyone know why simple scan or xsane would crash once the printer is on but work fine when it's off?
[02:38] <ace_striker> can i copy paste from live usb to solve missing packages ?
[02:38] <ChrisMaQ> i have been having two problems pulseaudio (selecting my usb headphone for calls) and notification doesnt come up when call is placed
[02:38] <ace_striker> ChrisMaQ: you should try killall pulseaudio
[02:38] <TJ-> aneks: Printer, or Scanner?
[02:39] <aneks> TJ- it's a printer/scanner in one
[02:40] <TJ-> aneks: Yes, but they're separate devices ... the problem you describe is more likely to be caused when the *scanner* is switched on ... since SANE will be trying to talk to it via the drivers
[02:40] <ChrisMaQ> but thats a temp fix .. i will have to restat the service to get control of my sound drivers afterwards right?
[02:40] <aneks> if I run simple scan or xsane when the device is off it runs fine, as soon as I start the device and try to open either one of the two, they start but then crash.
[02:41] <TJ-> aneks: Any reports in the system log-files, or the user session log (~/.xsession-errors)  ?
[02:42] <ace_striker> ChrisMaQ: unfortunately yes..or upgrade to latest ubuntu
[02:42] <aneks> TJ- the only thing I see in the system log file is this
[02:42] <aneks> Aug 12 12:41:50 igor kernel: [ 5099.621184] usb 5-1: usbfs: interface 2 claimed by usblp while 'simple-scan' sets config #1
[02:43] <TJ-> aneks: What is the make/model of the device?
[02:43] <ChrisMaQ> cool ... i cant wait for the other lts to be released
[02:43] <aneks> TJ- it's a Canon MX410
[02:43] <ChrisMaQ> thanks though
[02:43] <ChrisMaQ> is there aq command to reset pulseaudio settings for ubuntu 12.04
[02:44] <ace_striker> i have got dbus exception..
[02:45] <ace_striker> failed to load application.
[02:45] <aneks> TJ- this is what I get from .xsessions-errors
[02:45] <aneks> http://pastebin.com/nZw9MU7x
[02:46] <TJ-> aneks: The SANE hardware compatibility page says that device is untested, which suggests SANE doesn't have a 100% compatible driver currently
[02:48] <TJ-> aneks: I'm reading a bug report on the Debian site for SANE that suggests that error is caused by the hplip driver... see http://alioth.debian.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=314301&group_id=30186&atid=410366
[02:55] <Psil0cybin> Hey guys quick question
[02:55] <Psil0cybin> does anyone know a light weight program like screenlets
[02:55] <Psil0cybin> to get a widget on the right side that says information about my linux box
[02:56] <Psil0cybin> ip address, hd space left, etc
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> Psil0cybin:  conky is a common tool for that task
[02:56] <Psil0cybin> but light weight :P for a computer that has 1GB Ram?
[02:56] <Psil0cybin> would it work on Xubuntu
[02:56] <Psil0cybin> for Xfce
[02:56] <Psil0cybin> or does it need gnome
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> conky sould work on any desktop
[02:56] <aneks> TJ- thanks
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> its as old, or older then gnome. ;)
[02:56] <Psil0cybin> perfect
[02:56] <xkernel> is there an application for remote desktop sharing with the ability to draw and write notes?
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> webupd8 or omgubuntu had a neat post about a conky config tool that included conky themes.. made it easy to setup. the metro theme - had some nice simple meters
[03:00] <ace_striker> thanks for unsolicited help though friends.
[03:00] <thiebaude> How do i get rid of the keyring password on google chrome?
[03:01] <ace_striker> xkernel: knote similar
[03:02] <ace_striker> thiebaude: google similar : How do i get rid of the keyring password on google chrome?
[03:02] <thiebaude> ace_striker, ok i'lll try that, thanks
[03:15] <carthusian> I was downloading some .deb file, I cancelled it. However now I cant install anything else :( it is the synaptic package manager on ubuntu 13.04
[03:15] <TJ-> carthusian: At a terminal try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[03:18] <adas>  /nick ax562
[03:19] <adas> hello
[03:19] <cartusia> alright I got this http://pastebin.com/fAfzpFZg
[03:19] <cartusia> when I typed sudo apt-get -f install
[03:22] <TJ-> cartusia: Is another package installer running, either command-line or GUI?
[03:24] <cartusia> no
[03:24] <black_angel> hey, guys, i wanna query the c function 'sleep()' in linux, how-to do this?
[03:24] <cartusia> its closed
[03:24] <cartusia> but in synaptic there was a cancelled debian package.
[03:24] <cartusia> I have gone to system monitor
[03:24] <cartusia> to check if there is any app running and there is nothing else.
[03:25] <DamonGant> Sup IRC. I´m stuck. Horribly stuck. I upgraded to a mainline build kernel 3.10.5, that fixed my one audio issue, but fucked up my broadcom wl, so I eventually tried enough patches to get it to build, but not I can´t load it because ¨key rejected¨
[03:27] <TJ-> carthusian: there may be a stray process holding the lock. Try this at a terminal, it will list any processes that have that file open still. "sudo ls -l /proc/*/fd/*  | grep '/var/lib/dpkg/lock' "
[03:30] <wiak> DamonGant: well you should boot .old then :P
[03:30] <wiak> i lost my ath wlan too when i compiled it to
[03:32] <DamonGant> well, that doesn quite resolve the issue, I just need modprobe to load that goddamn module
[03:35] <mostro> Hi people, I need some help here. I'm having some trouble with my broadcom 4313 and Kernel 3.5, the led is on, I can see my network, but can't connect
[03:35] <mostro> I have installed the broadcom sta driver
[03:35] <Bjond> when will broadcom's reign of terror end?
[03:35] <mostro> hehehe
[03:37] <ndidi> so i have ubuntu installed alongside OS X on my macbook air. i want to enable FileVault under OS X. will that nuke my dualboot?
[03:41] <AEscolche> hola?
[03:41] <Inc_> Hello #Ubuntu
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> i was ablwe to buy several nice 'works out of the box' wireeless usb dongles at amazon. ;) hopefully some day broadcom will..well.. die.
[03:42] <Inc_> I have a question about wireless adapters and Linux
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> DamonGant, Maybe if you keep swearing is a public access family irc channel it will magically fix itself.
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> in*
[03:42] <Inc_> I have the awus360H and it keeps shutting itself off after about 15 minutes
[03:42] <Inc_> It has no problems in windows
[03:43] <Inc_> Will stay on for hours
[03:43] <Inc_> But in Linux (Not just Ubuntu) it won't work.
[03:43] <Inc_> for very long
[03:43] <mostro> So, what are the posibilities to getting the broadcom 4313 working in kernel 3.5?
[03:43] <Inc_> Are there drivers I need to download for it?
[03:43] <Marlenee> how i save every thing printed when when iam using screen command
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> Inc_:  just reboots? or powers off? or crashes ? or what exactly
[03:44] <Inc_> It seems to just power off
[03:44] <Inc_> Dr_Willis
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> Marlenee:  old scool way would be to use the 'typescript' command befor you do any work you want to record.
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> Inc_:  sounds like its overheating and shutting down.
[03:44] <Inc_> I get a network message saying I've been disconnected and the light isn't flashing on the adapter
[03:44] <Inc_> I plug it back it and it works fine
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> Inc_:  noticed your fans blowing? loud? not at all?
[03:44] <Inc_> But, it doesn't do that on windows
[03:45] <Marlenee> Dr_Willis : this command is built in ubuntu or i have to install it
[03:45] <Inc_> It's a USB adapter
[03:45] <Inc_> It's outside the computer
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> Marlenee:  type it in a terminal and see...
[03:45] <cartusia> hmmm how can I completely kill all off synaptic?
[03:45] <cartusia> through the commandline
[03:45] <TJ-> Marlenee: "screen -L" will log all windows
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> Inc_:  so JUST the usb adaptor is crashing? not the whole pc?
[03:45] <cartusia> I am reading a book, and looking online. I tried some commands but they all say the same.
[03:45] <cartusia> "locked by another process"
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> cartusia:  if you can see the window.. 'xkill' then click on the window to kill
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> !fixapt
[03:46] <Inc_> Correct, just the adapter Dr_Willies
[03:46] <Marlenee> Dr_Willis : bash: typescript: command not found
[03:46] <Inc_> Dr_WIllis
[03:46] <Marlenee> Dr_Willis : E: Unable to locate package typescript
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> Marlenee:  it may be just 'script' its a command last used by me lik3 5+ yrs ago
[03:46] <Plinker_> Marlenee: You might try screen capture and then just copy this (paste) to a graphics program!
[03:46] <cartusia> thanks :)
[03:46] <grado> hola me siento solo x
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> Marlenee:  you want all the screen sessions recorded - try that -L option to screen
[03:47] <grado> xd
[03:47] <Marlenee> Dr_Willis : i hear about this command but i cant found it in ubuntu apt-get
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> !es | grado
[03:48] <LLckfan> Hello
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> grado, all ubuntu support
[03:48] <grado> que me nppb wilee xd ok
[03:49] <LLckfan> I am trying to rreconnect my blu-ray player to my routeers wifi and I am getting DHCP cannot be acquired. I have checked the routers settings and DHCP is enabled. Is there a way to fix this?
[03:49] <grado> crees
[03:49] <cjopcjop> evening everyone
[03:49] <LLckfan> Helo
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> LLckfan:  set a Static ip on the player perhaps?
[03:50] <LLckfan> Dr_Willis it conncts fin in manual
[03:50] <LLckfan> Then it goes back to auto
[03:51] <cjopcjop> I was wondering what would be the best way to backup my server onto an external HD, rsync? Which application would make it easier for me to re-install the server if the shit did indeed hit the fan?
[03:51] <pvl1> LLckfan: are you positive dhcp is enabled on wireless. what about mac filtering? and also be sure to flush settings on ur blueray before u try auto
[03:51] <LLckfan> pvl1 ys
[03:51] <LLckfan> I have checked
[03:51] <LLckfan> Enabled has a dot by ir
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> cjopcjop, Clonezilla will clone it rsync maybe, and please don't swear.
[03:52] <pvl1> LLckfan: what about mac filtering etc? and try to clear the lease for the device
[03:53] <LLckfan> pvl1 done all that
[03:53] <LLckfan> and the blu-ray connects manual
[03:53] <pvl1> LLckfan: you verify by checking internet connection yes?
[03:53] <cjopcjop> wilee-nille, cheers for the info, my apologies
[03:54] <derrik> whats the best way to see running services?
[03:54] <pvl1> derrik: top
[03:54] <pvl1> ( i prefer htop actually)
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> derrik:  the service command can show what services are running
[03:54] <derrik> hm ok thanks
[03:54] <pvl1> Dr_Willis: thank you didnt know of that
[03:54] <Inc_> I have a question about wireless adapters and Linux
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> !upstart
[03:55] <Inc_> I have the awus360H and it keeps shutting itself off after about 15 minutes
[03:55] <Inc_> It has no problems in windows
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> Inc_:  you may want to clarify what that device is exactly.. most of us wont know its a USB wifi adaptor (correct?)
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> Inc_:  also you should determine what chipset it is using. the brand dosent matter near as much as the chipset.
[03:55] <LLckfan> pvl1 yes
[03:56] <pvl1> LLckfan: if you can. shut off your router for like two minutes, or find a way to flush its leases.
[03:56] <Inc_> I said it was a wireless adaprter..
[03:56] <Inc_> And the chipset is
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> wireless can mean Built in, or wifi, or 3g.. or...
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> or usb..
[03:57] <LLckfan> pvl1 I have done that
[03:57] <Inc_> It's a USB
[03:57] <Inc_> Plug in
[03:57] <Inc_> External
[03:57] <pvl1> LLckfan: and it still wont connect?
[03:57] <pvl1> LLckfan: what was the error
[03:57] <Inc_>  RTL8187 - Chipset
[03:57] <LLckfan> pvl1 it connects in manual but not in uto
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> Determine the chipset - and check the askubuntu.com search  and the forums to see if anyone else has reported known issues with that chipset. they may list known probolems and known work arounds.
[03:58] <LLckfan> pvl1 DHCP cannot be acquired
[03:58] <tinkster> Writing init-scripts for a set of tools that an external party wrote for us.  One of the inits works fine, the other doesn't. The biggest difference is that #2 needs to use do-start-stop -c user to start the process.  How do I diagnose why it's failing?
[04:00] <tinkster> I should note that when I run /etc/init.d/tool2 start manually ot works fine.
[04:01] <pvl1> LLckfan: what kind of encryption u got goin on
[04:01] <tinkster> errrk ... start-stop-daemon not do-start-stop ... getting a bit tired here
[04:05] <derrik> do all linux programs work in every distro?
[04:05] <LLckfan> pvl1 what
[04:05] <pvl1> derrik: technically... yeah... but your probably going to end up compiling some
[04:05] <pvl1> LLckfan: wep, wpa/wpa2
[04:05] <LLckfan> And it has been connect to the DHCP before
[04:06] <LLckfan> wpa
[04:06] <derrik> well i have gentoo under install now and it doesnt have service command like ubuntu/lubuntu/etc. but i could install it in it?
[04:06] <Marlenee> Dr_Willis : finally i install typescript thank you
[04:07] <pvl1> derrik: not every command in linux is a "program" like in windows. theres scripts, commands, service, programs etc
[04:07] <wind3x> Hey, this is my second time trying to install Ubuntu server and I keep getting the error message "Unable to install the selected kernal".  Help would be much appreciated, thanks
[04:07] <pvl1> LLckfan: do you mean it used to work right
[04:07] <pvl1> wind3x: are you still in the livecd
[04:07] <derrik> right
[04:08] <aakside> Applications keep getting locked to my unity launcher without me adding them there. Is this a feature, bug, or am I overlooking something?
[04:08] <wind3x> pvl1: I do not think this is the livecd as it is installing, I've never used a livecd before
[04:09] <aakside> (In Ubuntu 13.04)
[04:10] <wind3x> "An error was returned when trying to install the kernal into the target system."
[04:10] <wind3x> Kernal package: "linux-generic-lts-quantal:.
[04:11] <Purpleberry23> how do I launch an app? It shows up when i go to the Software Center, Installed drop down menu to GetDeb. There it is. It says I can remove it. I just want to launch it.
[04:12] <Purpleberry23> Any ideas?
[04:12] <wind3x> no clue mate, i cant even install it
[04:12] <wind3x> lol
[04:12] <LLckfan> pvl1 when I first set it up it was set to use auto(DHCP)
[04:12] <Purpleberry23> I am using DHCP
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> wind3x:  so how are you installing this server edition (which release) and onto what kind of machine?
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> !info linux-generic-lts-quantal
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> !info quantal linux-generic-lts-quantal
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> !info linux-generic-lts-quantal quantal
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> !10.04
[04:14] <Purpleberry23> I installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a boot only system. I'm using it as a music server
[04:14] <wind3x> Onto a desktop, custom-built computer using a burned ISO(which passed the DVD checker prompt) I am installing ubuntu-12.04.2-server-amd64.iso
[04:15] <Purpleberry23> I've installed Subsonic web media player
[04:15] <Purpleberry23> but it won't launch
[04:15] <reisio> Purpleberry23: what happens when you try to launch it?
[04:16] <Purpleberry23> I can't even launch it. It just says I have it installed. When I go to the file, it only give me the option to remove.
[04:16] <Purpleberry23> Remove button
[04:16] <Purpleberry23> Thanks reisio btw
[04:16] <reisio> Purpleberry23: okay, can you open a terminal?
[04:16] <Purpleberry23> yes
[04:17] <Purpleberry23> and I can get to my command line of course
[04:17] <reisio> Purpleberry23: dpkg -L nameOfPackage
[04:17] <reisio> if it's a "web" media player, it probably needs a web server
[04:17] <reisio> which it may or may not come with
[04:17] <reisio> but it probably -does- come with an explanation
[04:17] <Purpleberry23> hmm Apache?
[04:18] <Inc_> Does anyone know of a tool for cracking router logins?
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> You did start the subsonic service? like the docs say? ;)
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> Inc_, wrong channel.
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> Inc_:  not really ontopic for this channel, or network.
[04:19] <Inc_> wilee-nilee Mind telling me a right channel? Lol
[04:19] <wind3x> Dr_Willis: I forgot to address it to you but the info is stated above to the best of my knowledge. Thanks.
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> Inc_, #imanidiot
[04:19] <Purpleberry23> Yes! I did start it
[04:20] <Purpleberry23> I checked the Var/log and it says it's installed and updated
[04:20] <Purpleberry23> I stopped the service then restarted it
[04:20] <Purpleberry23> but no icon on my desktop
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> wind3x:  well somthign is VERY odd - that package you mention is not found in any of the repos.
[04:20] <Inc_> wilee-nilee, Oh you're just going to be an asshole. Gotcha
[04:20] <Inc_> Lol
[04:20] <reisio> Inc_: try #aircrack-ng
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> wind3x:  which iso are you using exctly?
[04:20] <Purpleberry23> I'm new so I'm probably missing something
[04:21] <Inc_> Invite only channel apparently, reisio
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> Purpleberry23:  err. from what i readingof the subsonic thinggie docs.. you dont get an icon. you access it from a browser
[04:21] <Purpleberry23> ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386
[04:21] <Dr_Willis>  http://yoursubsnicserverip.number:4040
[04:21] <reisio> Inc_: nah
[04:21] <reisio> Inc_: but you might need to be identified
[04:21] <reisio> /msg nickserv help register
[04:21] <reisio> /msg nickserv help identify
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> Purpleberry23:  so it says this During the install?
[04:22] <Inc_> reisio thanks
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> oops wrong nick.. :)
[04:22] <Dr_Willis>  wind3x  so it says this During the install?
[04:22] <Purpleberry23> Oh, I'll try that port
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> Purpleberry23:  all i did was read the 'starter docs' for the tool. ;)
[04:22] <pvl1> wind3x: ok isntall cd. are you still loaded onto the install cd
[04:23] <wind3x> Dr_Willis: That is the exact filename of the file I downloaded off ubuntu.com on Friday, I am not sure how else to put it.
[04:23] <pvl1> LLckfan: im lost, dunno
[04:23] <pvl1> kick it
[04:23] <wind3x> Yes I am still in the install CD
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> wind3x:  so the install works, or you get this error while installing?
[04:23] <pvl1> Dr_Willis: is there a way to read log files on the server install cd?
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> pvl1:  cant say ive ever noticed :) never needed them
[04:23] <MrLahey> hey there. I cannot login to lubuntu after changing my password. apparently this is because I also did not change the password for my encrypted home drive. any ideas to fix? thanks'
[04:24] <wind3x> Dr_Willis: I get this message while I am installing, it gives me an option to pick a certain part of the install to try again
[04:24] <wind3x> I have yet to have a successful installation, this error occurs during the installation process
[04:25] <Purpleberry23> Wow - this is crazy, can we start a meetup downtown Tacoma at a Bar?
[04:25] <Inc_> How do you download drivers for wireless cards?
[04:25] <pvl1> Dr_Willis: i guess same then!
[04:25] <Purpleberry23> Harmon Brewery
[04:26] <Purpleberry23> Let's do it, guys!
[04:26] <wilee-nilee> Purpleberry23, You wait I will be right there. ;)
[04:26] <Purpleberry23> haha, I'll bring my tower
[04:27] <pvl1> wind3x: what computer are you installing on
[04:28] <wind3x> A custom PC with a gigabyte mobo, Q9900 processor, corsair ram, etc...
[04:29] <wind3x> It previously had windows vista but more recently centOS
[04:29] <Purpleberry23> Dr_Willis: I tried the browser link, but it timed out
[04:30] <pvl1> wind3x: core 2 dup?
[04:30] <pvl1> duo*
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> wind3x:  thats very weird. because from what i saw earlier - the package you listed. dosent exist in any release.
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> Purpleberry23:  time to follow the install guide at the apps homepage i guess. you might need to make a user/edit a config from the guides i skimmed
[04:31] <wind3x> its a quad core and I grabbed it straight from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[04:31] <wind3x> do you think another version is better?
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> wind3x:  was there a checkboxc at the beginning to 'install updates' ? the desktop cd has that..
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> wind3x:  id be tempted to try the 13.04 server. or mini installer also.
[04:32] <hipitihop> is it possible to run 32 bit LX container on a 64 bit host
[04:32] <wind3x> no, there was only an option to start the instalation as a whole
[04:33] <pvl1> hipitihop: whats LX stand for
[04:34] <pvl1> wind3x: id try the latest server as well
[04:35] <wind3x> alright will do, thanks. a basic google search showed that "zeroing the hd might help" since it messed up installing once, do you think i should try this?
[04:36] <holstein> wind3x: i would test the drive.. "zeroing" it shouldnt effect the performance
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> wind3x:  i dont really see how its a hard drive issue. if its trying  to install some package that dosent exist.. or have i totally missread the problem
[04:36] <hipitihop> pvl1, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LXC
[04:36] <pvl1> i agree, wind3x, are you doing a fresh isntall
[04:37] <wind3x> the thing is that I have no OS on it currently so I'm not sure how I would zero the HD
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> wind3x:  you can get to a console from the live dvd/cd
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> wind3x, this the 12.10 server, 12.04 is longterm, much longer.
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> but again . i dont see why zeroing it would matter.
[04:37] <fastputty> hello guys
[04:37] <fastputty> i am under 8.0.4 and i canot find anywhere the wireless avaiable list
[04:38] <fastputty> i went to hardware drivers and see my ahteros wireless card enable
[04:38] <fastputty> somene may help out
[04:38] <pvl1> hipitihop: kool havent seen that before. interesting stuff. but cant help ya sorry :(
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> fastputty:  Ubuntu 8.04  you mean?
[04:38] <wilee-nilee> fastputty, 8.0.4 really?
[04:38] <pvl1> lol you two would be upset at that
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> !8.04
[04:38] <icelite> \ooo
[04:38] <fastputty> i know i know but its a old old computer
[04:38] <fastputty> lol
[04:38] <icelite> just  missed it
[04:38] <holstein> wind3x: what im saying is, you shouldnt have to..
[04:38] <fastputty> i just want to make it revive
[04:38] <holstein> wind3x: there is nothing that should fail, ans zeroing will make it not fail
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> fastputty:  upgrade it to a current release is going to be the main advice.
[04:39] <wind3x> Alright thanks a ton, I'll just try the newest version and cross my fingers
[04:39] <fastputty> no internet
[04:39] <pvl1> fastputty: the newer versions all have better everything for old pcs. just keep it lightweight. install kde, or lubuntu
[04:39] <fastputty> cannot upgrade
[04:39] <fastputty> only wireless
[04:39] <fastputty> cannot find the wireless vaialable list
[04:39] <FloodBot1> fastputty: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:39] <fastputty> how can i get the list?
[04:39] <pvl1> wind3x:  good luck
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> fastputty:  if your wifi card is not supported by that old a release.. its not supported.
[04:39] <fastputty> i bleieve i have made it work before
[04:40] <fastputty> just long time i didnt touch kde
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> desktop should have an icon somewhere for the wifi stuff/network manager
[04:40] <fastputty> forge evrything lamost
[04:40] <fastputty> yeah where is that ICON???
[04:40] <wind3x> thanks pvl1
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> its your desktop.. look for it.. we dont rember what the desktop layouts look like for every release.
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> or run the network-manager tool via the clo
[04:40] <holstein> fastputty: "believe"? maybe you used a windows driver with ndis.. there is a GUI ndis frontend.. ndisgtk..
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> assuming the wifi 'used' to work -  and all you need to just find the icon. ;)
[04:41] <cution> sometimes wifi works like a pimp beast in linux / ubuntu
[04:41] <cution> other times it works lame
[04:42] <cution> i blame the hardware manufacturers
[04:42] <reisio> those terrible hardware manufacturers that made you buy their product
[04:42] <cution> well
[04:42] <cution> yes and no
[04:42] <cution> you have to remember if a guy gets a beast deal on a computer, buys it for cheap
[04:42] <reisio> that he was forced?
[04:42] <reisio> :p
[04:42] <cution> maybe that person didn't you know have control of every piece of hardware in it
[04:42] <cution> no
[04:42] <cution> but he's poor
[04:42] <cution> it's a good price
[04:42] <holstein> !ot
[04:42] <FloodBot1> cution: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:42] <cution> a good deal
[04:43] <reisio> heh
[04:43] <cution> i'm not flooding.
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> yes you are.
[04:43] <rreed> cution, sacrifice you make :)
[04:43] <reisio> just a bot, guy
[04:43] <Purpleberry23> Dr_Willis: did the command line install step by step. I think it's a problem with my port/router. Thanks for your help
[04:43] <Purpleberry23> reisio: thanks for your help too
[04:43] <Purpleberry23> I'll bring it to class
[04:46] <linu> hi all i have added new integrated(bluetooth and wifi ) module driver in kernel 3.6.9 and compiled for i386,it showed me the following error can you tell me what is that issues http://pastebin.com/DvMUauyP
[04:49] <vaskaloidis> I just installed nagios from the source on my server - and I went to the website my.serverIP.com/nagios and it won't work
[04:49] <vaskaloidis> any suggestions - or what would happen if I just installed nagios from apt-get now, would it create two copies of nagios? I would rather uninstall the one I compiled from source
[04:49] <linu> rtl8723au this is the driver name which i added externally to the kernel 3.6.9
[04:51] <GEEGEEGEE> what kernel version does ubuntu 13.04 use?
[04:51] <GEEGEEGEE> or whatever the newest verison is
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> linu, YOu might look through these threads and see if there is any relevant info.  http://askubuntu.com/search?q=rtl8723
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> GEEGEEGEE, 3.8 something
[04:51] <GEEGEEGEE> ok thanks
[04:52] <linu> wilee-nilee yes i will check
[04:53] <vaskaloidis> any suggestions as to why my nagios won't work after I compiled and built it from source - it won't work when I attempt to access it from a web browser mysite.com/nagios and I installed it on ubuntu 12.04
[04:58] <galups2000> hi
[04:58] <reisio> hi
[04:58] <galups2000> where r u from...?
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> lol
[04:59] <icelite> hah
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> 3rd planet from the star at the center of the Andromeda galaxy
[05:01] <Semor> where can I find kernel  debug info for  3.5.0-23-generic #35~precise1-Ubuntu ?
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> Semor, Why not use a kernel probably already there?
[05:10] <wind3x> To anyone who was here before, I regret to inform that I got the same exact error upon trying to install the new version :(
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> refresh our memoruys as to what the exact error was.
[05:14] <wind3x> it installs up to the "kernal" point then says it can't write it
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> cant WRITE it or cant Install it or cant download it?
[05:15] <wind3x> umm, let me scroll up and see what i wrote before one sec
[05:15] <wind3x> "An error was returned when trying to install the kernal into the target system."
[05:16] <jpds> wind3x: Sounds like your out of disk scape?
[05:16] <wind3x> i had it set to use and repartition the entire tera
[05:16] <PantD> Hi
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> jpds, sounds like your guessing.
[05:17] <wind3x> I have the syslog if anyone's willing to translate it for me
[05:17] <wind3x> i have no idea what it means but i can paste it all
[05:18] <Semor> wilee-nilee: I need to recompile kernel ?
[05:19] <wind3x> http://pastebin.com/SzrCS8nz
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> Semor, Seems out of ubuntu support.
[05:19] <Semor> why ?
[05:20] <wilee-nilee> maybe not give some details to the channel.
[05:20] <jpds> wilee-nilee: What else can "cannot write" mean?
[05:20] <MrLahey> hey there I am on ubuntu and am having an issue...i couldnt login after changing my password so I went into grub and changed it back. now I can login but the panel is missing and when I right click to open apps, it only shows the default apps that came with the distro.
[05:20] <MrLahey> lubuntu rather
[05:20] <wilee-nilee> jpds, many things.
[05:22] <wind3x> If anyone can please decipher or attempt to decipher that pastebin  you would win an internet and my upmos gratitude
[05:23] <wind3x> upmost*
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> wind3x:  you are installing FROM a cdrom?
[05:29] <wind3x> No Dr_Willis, a DVD-R.  Does that matter?
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> well i see several messages about  the system having issues reading the optical drive.
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> but it all seems to be block 1 and block 0.
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> Aug 12 05:03:22 kernel: [  527.590422] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 0
[05:31] <wind3x> sr0 is the ethernet I think, I was offered a choice of two different options which is strance since I only have one port
[05:31] <wind3x> as far as I know
[05:31] <Ben64> sr0 is never ethernet
[05:31] <wind3x> alright, im probably wrong then
[05:32] <wind3x> i've used the drive to install other distro's by DVD, but they were much larger. maybe I need a blank CD then?
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> Aug 12 05:09:36 in-target: Unpacking linux-image-3.8.0-19-generic (from .../linux-image-3.8.0-19-generic_3.8.0-
[05:32] <Ben64> wind3x: i'd have to agree with Dr_Willis though, bad drive, bad media, or bad image
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> Aug 12 05:09:38 in-target: dpkg-deb (subprocess): decompressing archive member: internal bzip2 read error: 'DATA_ERROR'
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> Aug 12 05:09:38 in-target: dpkg: error processing /media/cdrom//pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-3.8.0-19-generic_3.8.0-19.29_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[05:33] <wind3x> Ben64: I tried two versions of the server and got the same error
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> Its having problems reading files from the cd - from what i can tell
[05:33] <Ben64> Aug 12 05:09:42 in-target:  corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive
[05:33] <Ben64> i guess it could also be bad ram
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> the mini installer cd image - would download the stuff from the internet as needed i belive.
[05:33] <Ben64> or bad cpu... motherboard, hard drive...
[05:33] <wind3x> hmm, you know I did just install new ram today
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> phase of the moon. ;P
[05:34] <wind3x> but i had centOS on this thing just a few hours ago with no problems
[05:35] <R-800> Hi, all. Trying out Ubuntu again after being away a while.  Never got very proficient with it.  Now I have a new challenge: Trying to install it on a system without internet access.  I have another computer that can get online (obviously?) but that doesn't seem terribly helpful yet.  Did some research, but feeling overwhelmed.
[05:36] <Ben64> R-800: the installer works the same if connected or not, whats the problem?
[05:37] <reisio> R-800: why can't you get access?
[05:37] <ubuntu11> nmnnn
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> its nice to have the internet connected - so the installer can get the extra codecs/packages and updates at install time. but its not required
[05:38] <R-800> reisio: Well, the access issue isn't a troubleshooting issue.  Let's just say, it's not going to have access, and it's out of my hands.  Nothing is broken as far as that goes.  It's just a limitation I am forced to deal with (I'm setting this up for someone else).
[05:38] <chamunks> I'm getting ERROR: Bad port '25510-25530'  for ufw allow proto tcp from 192.99.2.128 port 25510-25530
[05:39] <chamunks> any ideas?
[05:39] <reisio> R-800: mmm, k
[05:39] <reisio> R-800: so it won't have access after you hand it off?
[05:39] <reisio> R-800: or you don't want it to ever have access?
[05:39] <R-800> reisio: It's out of my hands.  That means it doesn't matter what I want.
[05:39] <reisio> I don't understand :p
[05:39] <reisio> someone has a gun to your head?
[05:39] <reisio> should I call the cops?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> R-800:  so install it.. and hand it off.. there ya go.
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> R-800:  internet is not needed for a normal desktop install. but it is nice.
[05:40] <reisio> if I _should_ call the cops, say "it's out of my hands"
[05:40] <R-800> Dr_Willis: That was already done.  I suppose I could leave it at that.
[05:40] <wind3x> Dr_Willis: If you think there is an error loading from the DVD, is there a way I can use a portable HD instead?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> R-800:  so.. we have no idea what your real question is..
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> wind3x:  you can setup grub2 on a usb hd/flash to boot the iso. or image the iso to a usb. (or hd, but that would be weird)
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> wind3x:  or use a tool from the pendrivelinux site to make a live-usb installer on the hd.
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> i even have a thing for my android phone (rooted) that lets my Phone boot the pc with an iso file on the phone. ;P
[05:42] <linu> hi added external rtl8723au driver to kernel 3.6.9 and firware also copied and i tried to compile for i386 it shows http://pastebin.com/tu2zcQwA
[05:42] <R-800> Dr_Willis: Understood.  My real question pertains to certain issues with the install, probably minor, but which would be resolved by now if the system in question had internet access.  So now I'm looking for ways to get the needed downloads from the computer which does have access.  In trying to research this, I got to feeling like it's perhaps not as straightforward as I hoped it would be.
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> wind3x:  or do an install TO a small usb flash drive from a differnt pc.. and image it to your system :)
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> !aptoncd
[05:43] <wind3x> Are you sure that would fix the problem though? I mean I tried installing two different versions to DVD and the both had the same issue, its very strange
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> wind3x:  your issue seems to be either reading of the cd. or the image on the cd.  Id try making a bootable usb from a known good image.
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> a space pc on the same network - opens up the possibility of having a network-boot setup also. ;) or you could try the minimal installer it downloads everything from the internet i belive
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> spare pc...
[05:44] <wind3x> ok, could you please? supply me to a link with a known good image
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> i always get my images from torrents. rarely ever have issues with them. then check the md5sum
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> wind3x, I would torrent the 12.04 server from ubuntu
[05:45] <xmetal> i copy the devs directory
[05:45] <xmetal> though apttoCD is something i have used before
[05:45] <xmetal> oops .. DEBS that should be
[05:46] <xmetal> ack lol
[05:46] <xmetal> that made no sense ... "i copy the Debs directly " is what i meant
[05:46] <PiNinja> Testing, can anyone see this?
[05:46] <xmetal> (haven't eating in awhile, not thinking .. forgive me :P )
[05:46] <wilee-nilee> xmetal, Just seeing your nick makes me reach for the peppermint lozenges, and I'm not sure why. ;)
[05:46] <wind3x> Is that different than the one at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop ?
[05:47] <MrLahey> hey there I am on lubuntu and am having an issue...i couldnt login after changing my password so I went into grub and changed it back. now I can login but the panel is missing and when I right click to open apps, it only shows the default apps that came with the distro.  all the apps i installed are not showing up. its like its not loading my "profile" or something
[05:47] <djapo> is there a pdf viewer that works from tty, i dont mean a text based pdf viewer but rather one that can be launched from tty without an x session running?
[05:47] <R-800> I guess I could start by asking how to get DVD playback to work through the default Movie Player in 12.04 without getting missing multimedia plugin errors. I wouldn't know what specific plugins I should even be looking for, or how to find out.
[05:47] <linu> wilee-nilee http://askubuntu.com/search?q=rtl8723 i followed that page,there stated to copy firmware,i did,but shows the same error http://pastebin.com/tu2zcQwA
[05:50] <xmetal> :-"
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> R-800:  normally theres a package you install, then a script you have to run to get the actual 'stuff'  due to legal reasons
[05:50] <xmetal> not naming what OS i run
[05:50] <xmetal> lol
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> !dvd
[05:51] <babinlonston> Using ubuntu server 12.04 Not showing syslog Why ?
[05:51] <wilee-nilee> xmetal, Not any more anyway. ;)
[05:51] <djapo> R-800: theres a dvd decoter neaded because dvd movies are slightly encrypted, if i remember correctly it is the css library you need
[05:51] <xmetal> :)
[05:51] <R-800> Dr_Willis: I see.  I did come across some of the stuff about legal issues in the research I was trying to do.  But that didn't exactly encourage me, as one might imagine.
[05:52] <R-800> djapo: Thanks.  How would I search for that library on a remote computer, since the computer that needs it doesn't have internet access?
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> R-800:  dont get me started on 'dvd movie playback' :) i have 'legal' dvd's that i cant play in a totally 'legal' dvd player (the wifes old sony) due to 'legal' extra copy protection the companies have put on the disks..
[05:53] <djapo> R-800: sudo apt-get install libdvdread3;sudo /usr/shar/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> R-800:  so i am forced to  do less then legal things to play my legally bought media.
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> R-800:  set up the dvd sutff on a pc that is online, and fifure out what it copied where. and then transfer the files via sneakernet. :)  or setup a pc that IS online how you want. then just image it to the 2nd pc.
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> that may be even easier. ;)
[05:55] <R-800> djapo: Thank you, but I must confess to have blundered by omitting an important fact: The computer without internet access is the onl one running Ubuntu.  The computer WITH internet access is NOT running Ubuntu, but Windows 7.  Could things be any more complicated?
[05:56] <xmetal> he said windows ... GET'EM
[05:56] <xmetal> :P
[05:56] <R-800> Ha ha.
[05:56] <xmetal> for the first time i am saying that to someone else
[05:56] <djapo> R-800: what version of ubntu are you using ?
[05:56] <R-800> 12.04 LTS.
[05:59] <djapo> R-800: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:59] <R-800> djapo: Okay.  Here goes...
[06:00] <crass> how do I get access to i386 arch from amd64?
[06:00] <crass> the amd64 repos appear to have some :i386 packages, but not all
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> R-800:  setup vbox on the internet pc.. and setp linux how you want. then image the vbox install.. or well fifure out how to get internet to the linux box.. ;)  sounds like a lot of effort going on here thet could be eliminated by a 15 foot bit of cat-5 cable
[06:01] <Ben64> crass: what are you trying to do
[06:02] <R-800> Dr_Willis: Granted.
[06:02] <djapo> crass: enable multiarch
[06:03] <crass> Ben64: specifically, I want to get libgl1-mesa-dri:i386
[06:03] <crass> djapo: I have the multiarch-support pkg installed, if that's what you mean
[06:03] <Sta1ker> exit
[06:05] <djapo> crass: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiArch
[06:05] <leaf_watoru> hi to everyone. what you think: does ubuntu edge campaign wins?
[06:05] <Ben64> crass: uh.. have you tried "sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri:i386"
[06:05] <crass> djapo: thanks, just found that
[06:05] <R-800> djapo: I didn't see the css library available under the libraries section of that site.  Did I look for it in the wrong section?
[06:06] <djapo> R-800: libdvdread3 not css
[06:06] <crass> Ben64: no, but its not listed in synaptic
[06:06] <crass> Ben64: but it looks like that might work
[06:06] <R-800> djapo: Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Okay.
[06:06] <djapo> R-800: wait
[06:07] <djapo> R-800: its libdvdread4
[06:07] <djapo> R-800: and after that run sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[06:08] <rajeev> I have installed ubuntu on my new system. I have installed LAMP server, but when I am trying to run a drupal instance at localhost/drupal for the folder drupal which is inside www, it says "You don't have permission to access /drupal on this server."
[06:08] <R-800> djapo: Okay, so, can this library be downloaded on the windows machine and then sneakernetted to the Unbutu machine?  If so, what will the destination path be for placing the transferred file?
[06:10] <djapo> R-800: download the file into usb and place into your linux desktop
[06:12] <foo357> Hello, I have a ubuntu machine that has an rsa and dsa key, but I can't see a ssh_host_ecdsa_key.pub in /etc/ssh
[06:13] <djapo> R-800: than do sudo dpkg -i pathtofile/packagename.deb  where path to file is  the path to the file and packagename is the name of the package
[06:14] <Marlenee> i get error after run typescript command : Segmentation fault
[06:14] <Marlenee> it show me this error every cmmnad i run
[06:14] <R-800> djapo: Got it.  Thanks.  One last question.  I used Ubuntu once before, and had no problem getting to the terminal.  But the interface seems to be different now, and I can't bring up a command line.  What am I missing?
[06:14] <Marlenee> even "ls -l"
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> Marlenee:  this is in a screen session? try it outside of a screen session?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> R-800:  type 'term' in the search box when you bring up the dash. ;)
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> R-800:  press and hold the windows key to see a list of keyboard shortcuts. and the unbuntu manual will give you the basics of the unity interface
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> !terminal
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> !manual
[06:18] <R-800> Dr_Willis: Thanks.  Now here's a really easy one.... What is the exact path to the Ubuntu desktop???
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> that ubuntu manual may be worth copying over to the pc - befor you give it away also
[06:19] <shadowfios> hello I am trying to setup a finerprint system are there any recommended libraries to do so?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> R-800:  you mean 'Desktop' in your home directory? ;)
[06:19] <R-800> Dr_Willis: Yes, I believe so.
[06:19] <djapo> R-800: type pwd into a terminal
[06:20] <djapo> R-800: that will give you your current working directory
[06:20] <djapo> R-800: for example /home/username
[06:20] <R-800> Okay, so far so good...
[06:21] <djapo> R-800: than the path to the desktop will be /home/username/Desktop/
[06:21] <R-800> djapo: Got it.  Thanks.
[06:21] <berryciderspider> Will Razer keyboards work on ubuntu? If not macro's, at least the standard keys?
[06:24] <R-800> djapo: That seems to have done something.
[06:24] <R-800> djapo: Possibly something good.
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> berryciderspider:  i would think so, My razor ouse works fine. I think theres some razor tools out for linux to give you the extra features also
[06:25] <djapo> R-800: have you installed css yet
[06:25] <berryciderspider> Dr_Willis: Would the black widow be suitable for programming as well, and if not which keyboard would you recommend?
[06:26] <R-800> djapo: I thought so.  How will I know if it worked?
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> berryciderspider:  i dont really see what would make a keyboard 'suitable for programming' or not.
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> berryciderspider:  if you can type on it.. its suitable
[06:26] <shadowfios> hello i am trying to program a fingerprint authentication system in ubuntu are there any recommended libraries that are in c/c++
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> shadowfios:  i thought that feature/tools were allready in the repos.  with a pam module or somthing.
[06:27] <djapo> R-800: have you done sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[06:28] <R-800> djapo: It made several references in the terminal to things like Unpacking libdvdread4, Setting up libdvdread4, Processing triggers for libc-bin..., ldconfic deferred processing now taking place, then it returned me to the prompt.
[06:28] <R-800> djapo: Oops.  Didn't do that yet.
[06:28] <berryciderspider> Dr_Willis: Do you use a standard mechanical keyboard or laptop-like-key keyboard?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> berryciderspider:  i literally have.. like 30+ keyboards around this house ive used over the years.
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> berryciderspider:  and yes i do have some of the old IBM-Model-M clicky-clacky keytboards
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> I also have some gamer-keyboards (a G15) that works fine
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> i got about 20 keyboards - i need to load up and take to goodwill. ;) I dont need that many
[06:30] <penguinman> honestly I find i like the cheap ones the best. basically the $10 a pop ones you can pick up at any office supply store.
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Logitech has some decent keyboards for a fair price these days.
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> theres one you can wash in the sink for like $20
[06:31] <R-800> djapo: It looks like the fetch failed.  Lots of stuff came up on the screen.  It would take a while to relay it all.
[06:31] <xmetal> i have to say hardware wise i have always went with and loved Logitech
[06:31] <penguinman> actually, as much as I hate to admit it, my current favorite keyboards are actually made by microsoft.
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> i got a few logitech disasters - where they did 'innovative' things and made the boards a pain to use. ;)
[06:31] <djapo> R-800: lol, i forgo tyou don't have internet on that pc
[06:32] <djapo> R-800: hold on
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> like remaping the F keys to be MS Word macro keys by default. ;P
[06:32] <R-800> djapo: I thought that might be it.  It listed various URLs, as if it was looking for a connection.
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> djapo:  ;) thats sort of the whole issue he has. ;P
[06:32] <xmetal> the "cheaper ones" (only a few bucks less then the logitechs i have gotten are a pain to use iMHO
[06:32] <xmetal> the "no name" brand ones i mean
[06:32] <penguinman> Dr_Willis: i actually liked the wave, just a little large for my desk
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> the G15  i have now is a bit over-big also. it has some special Gkeys - that i dont even use. in windows, or linux
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> and i wore half the letters off the keys. ;) had to get some stickers to put on them
[06:34] <djapo> R-800: download libdvdcss2 from packages.ubuntu.com
[06:34] <berryciderspider> Dr_Willis: Not sure if I should get a mechanical keyboard or not...
[06:34] <R-800> djapo: Okay.
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> berryciderspider:  i doubt if it matters much
[06:34] <Marlenee> Dr_Willis : i cant get out the script command everytime say : Segmentation fault
[06:34] <djapo> R-800: and then install it just like you installed this one
[06:34] <RajeevK> Can somebody help with "You don't have permission to access /drupal on this server."
[06:34] <R-800> djapo: Okay.
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> Marlenee:  this is in a screen session or not?
[06:35] <penguinman> berryciderspider: they're nice, just loud. and a pretty decent investment for a good one.
[06:35] <Marlenee> no its not
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> Marlenee:  i got no idea then. ive not used the script command in 4+ years at least
[06:35] <berryciderspider> penguinman: Are they all suitable for programming?
[06:36] <R-800> djapo: I don't see libdvdcss2 in the list.
[06:36] <Marlenee> Dr_Willis : i cant even kill this command
[06:37] <penguinman> berryciderspider: depends on what switches you get. the harder switches are mostly for gaming when you're slamming the keys anyway. the softer ones are pretty good though.
[06:37] <berryciderspider> penguinman: So brown switches would be best? What about the Diatec Filco ninja?
[06:38] <penguinman> berryciderspider: honestly, i'm not sure on brands. like I said, I use a $15 microsoft branded keyboard right now.
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> Marlenee:  go to console, try killall script     perhaps
[06:38] <berryciderspider> penguinman: I suppose they're all pretty much the same anyway.
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> Marlenee:  or ctrl-\  i recall
[06:39] <djapo> R-800: hmm indeed ...
[06:39] <penguinman> berryciderspider: get an old model M if you can find one. otherwise I'm not sure.
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> penguinman:  ;) got 2 of those.. ps2.. but some days its hard to find a pc with a ps2 port.
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> the lack of a windows key - can be a pain in unity
[06:40] <berryciderspider> thanks for the advice
[06:40] <penguinman> Dr_Willis: oh yeah, forgot about that.
[06:41] <R-800> Dr_Willis: My experience has been that the presence of the Windows Key is a pain in just about any application.  : )
[06:42] <djapo> R-800: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/pacages/medibuntu_free/precise/free/base/libdvdcss2
[06:42] <R-800> djapo: Okay...
[06:42] <penguinman> R-800: depends on what DE you're using too. KDE you can get away with no windows key. Gnome or Unity is a bit of a different story
[06:42] <R-800> djapo: Now it tells me that the page this links to doesn't exist.
[06:43] <R-800> penguinman: I guess it would have to be.  I wouldn't know, of course.
[06:43] <djapo> R-800: mised spelled packages
[06:43] <djapo> R-800: i missed spelled packages
[06:43] <R-800> djapo: Okay!  I see that now.
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> Unity makes very good use of the windiows key.
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> and the use of the 'hud' on the alt key is also easy to overlook
[06:44] <R-800> djapo: I changed it to "packages" and I get the same error.
[06:45] <penguinman> Dr_Willis: yeah, one thing about unity I really do like. KDE I had to remap everything to make sense.
[06:45] <djapo> R-800: let me get a short url
[06:45] <Dr_Willis>  http://tinyurl.com/l8a99gv
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> was what you gave eralier :)
[06:45] <R-800> djapo: The shorter, the better.  : )
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> i got a auto-tiny-url script in my weechat client
[06:46] <xmetal> i hae the unity DE installed though i rarely use it to be honest
[06:46] <djapo> R-800: http://tinyurl.com/kwk4mas
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> compiz has been core-dumping on me lately :) so ive been digging into Lubuntu
[06:47] <penguinman> Dr_Willis: always a fun time. isn't unity supposed to be ditching compiz anyway and going to QT?
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> penguinman:  supposed to be going to 'wayland' and ditching X also. ;)
[06:48] <raedov> hello guys
[06:48] <penguinman> Dr_Willis: fair enough lol
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> i will wait and see what happens.. this channel will be SO hectic whenthey do that change
[06:49] <penguinman> Dr_Willis: i tried mir out. still slow as molasses on this lappy. and my desktop is an Arch machine, so can't really test it on my heavy duty hardware.
[06:49] <raedov> how to show multimedia details in Nautilus ? such as size in pixel , fps .. etc
[06:51] <xmetal> hae? woops
[06:51] <xmetal> have
[06:53] <GODDOG> what is the "vimpc"?  help
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> GODDOG:  not sure what you are refering to.
[06:56] <GODDOG> Dr_Willis:  i use "homebrew" in my Mac
[06:56] <R-800> djapo: Okay, I got it to the point where I need to enter the line "sudo /usr/share/doc... " line, and am wondering how it needs to be changed this time around, because I already tried to substitute as best I could, and think I typed something wrong.
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> GODDOG:  im not sure anyone in here knows what you are talking about.
[06:59] <R-800> Dr_Willis: I can be pretty sure I don't, at least.  : )
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> R-800:  we get that a lot in here. ;)
[06:59] <djapo> R-800: no, d you have the package from the url in the desktop, if so do a dpkg -i
[06:59] <djapo> R-800: same like you did for libdvdread4
[06:59] <GODDOG> sorry
[07:00] <djapo> R-800: and that should do it
[07:01] <R-800> djapo: I tried to follow all the steps the same way, but the path needs to be changed, and I suspect that it needs to be changed in a way that isn't obvious.  The original line read "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh", so should the new line read "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdcss2/install-css.sh"?
[07:02] <penguinman> R-800: where did you download it to?
[07:03] <R-800> penguinman: /home/username/Desktop
[07:03] <penguinman> then the path ~/Desktop should do the trick
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> the file is in /home/username/Desktop/install-css.sh then you mean?
[07:03] <raedov>  how to show multimedia details in Nautilus ? such as size in pixel , fps .. etc
[07:03] <lacy20> hi
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> raedov:  its possible it cant do it. I always right click and do properties
[07:04] <penguinman> raedov: i don't think nautilus does that. i know the gnome devs have been taking a lot of that out lately.
[07:04] <djapo> R-800: no don't do that anymore, try sudo dpkg -i pathtofile/packagename.deb where the package name is the name of the new file you just downloaded from the tiny url
[07:04] <lacy20> any one can say chinese?
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> lacy20:  moo goo gai pan?
[07:05] <lacy20> what is mean
[07:05] <R-800> djapo: Okay.
[07:06] <R-800> djapo: But I already did that part.
[07:06] <wilee-nilee> !cn | lacy20 the bot can
[07:06] <djapo> than it should work then
[07:06] <R-800> djapo: I didn't make that clear, but I already did that part and it seemed to work okay, but I thought there was another step afterwards.
[07:06] <djapo> R-800: try it out
[07:06] <lacy20> thank you
[07:07] <penguinman> been awhile since i've been in here, wasn't sure ubottu was still around.
[07:07] <djapo> if it does not play the dvd you might have to set your region
[07:10] <djapo> R-800: R-800 if you need to set your region try downloading the package regionset installing it and then doing sudo regionset ... you might not haveto tho
[07:10] <R-800> djapo: It still doesn't work, but I don' think the region setting is the issue, at least not yet.  I'm still getting the same error as every other time: "Required plugin could not be found.  Python (v2.7) requires to install plugins to support the following multimedia feature: DVD source."
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> i recall a bug or similer issue with that message R-800  you may want to check askubuntu.com
[07:11] <djapo> R-800: what player are you using
[07:11] <djapo> ?
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> personally i would suggest installign vlc as your media player. ;)
[07:11] <R-800> Movie Player, or whatever comes pre-installed.
[07:11] <djapo> R-800: vlc is a better choice
[07:12] <R-800> Dr_Willis: I'd be up for that, if it will work.
[07:12] <R-800> Still have to download it remotely, though.
[07:12] <djapo> R-800: it will install a bunch of codecs along with
[07:12] <RajeevK> I am getting "sudo: unable to resolve host"
[07:12] <R-800> djapo: Well, I'll try that, then.
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> or course getting all the vlc packages from one pc to another since you dont have internet.. will take some time i imagine
[07:14] <R-800> Dr_Willis: I had a bad feeling about that.
[07:15] <R-800> Also, it seems like there's only a Windows version, from what I've seen so far.
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> id just run a cable and been done with this all an hr+ ago. ;)   Hmm. i DO recall some unofficial ubuntu variants that Might come with all this stuff included. but i cant even rember their names.
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> !info vlc
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> vlc is out for most every os there is. ;)
[07:15] <tones> try smplayer instead of vlc
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> I even have it for my android devices
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> mplayer with no gui can even work. ;) i think.
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> smplayer will want  a lot of qt stuff i think
[07:16] <john38> Hello all is there a program for ubuntu that will enable you to use all 6 cores of  your cpu
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> gmplayer will use the gtk stuff
[07:16] <R-800> tones: I don't know why I should use one vs. another UNLESS one's easier to install than another.
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> john38:  mine uses all the cores automatically
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> vlc plays most everything you can throw at it. ;)
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> and has a fairly decent interface and feature set.
[07:16] <djapo> john38: go 64 bit ... either way ubuntu uses all cores
[07:17] <tones> I use both vlc and smplayer, but I use smplayer more
[07:17] <john38> djapo, what i mean is for all programs used
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> smplayer had a few neat features i recall. ;)
[07:17] <djapo> john38: you can assign a program to use a core
[07:17] <john38> djapo, so Ubuntu uses all your cores automatically
[07:18] <djapo> john38: the linux kernel manages cores and yes it uses less of them when there is less load and when there is more it uses more
[07:19] <john38> djapo, ok
[07:19] <john38> djapo, cool thnks
[07:19] <R-800> So tired...
[07:21] <tones> do people here attend local LUGs?
[07:23] <spartanx> hello all
[07:23] <R-800> Anybody heard of Keryx?
[07:24] <spartanx> how can I install a graphics tablet of kraun on ubuntu
[07:24] <spartanx> ?
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> spartanx:  you mean install Ubuntu ON a tablet (android?) or 'use' a tablet (like a wacom thing) for a input device?
[07:26] <spartanx> wacom tablet type
[07:26] <spartanx> input device
[07:26] <spartanx> i have a kraun pen tablet a6
[07:28] <spartanx> ?
[07:29] <R-800> Good night, all.  Thanks for trying to help, anyway.
[07:30] <spartanx> me as if I do lsusb device Zippy Technology Corp
[07:33] <Wufu> any one have problem with calling a phone nr that begins with + or * ?
[07:34] <bfmt048> my update strucks at init script for samba not found (ubuntu 11 >> ubuntu 12.04)  while unpacking libc-bin
[07:37] <bfmt048> any one help , my update strucks  at showing warning : init script for samba not found
[07:40] <spartanx> response one
[07:40] <timfrost> !patience |bfmt048
[07:52] <timfrost> Wufu: Are those phone numbers international (it is usual for a business card to use '+' to denote the prefix used when placing an international call (such as '+64' to denote calling New Zealand or '+1' for England).  I am not sure what the '*' would mean
[07:52] <HypnotiX> how i edit or delete a link file i created usr/bin
[07:53] <bfmt048> Could not install '/var/cache/apt/archives/fonts-liberation_1.07.0-2ubuntu0.1_all.deb'
[07:56] <timfrost> HypnotiX: rm will remove a symlink
[07:59] <auronandace> !fonts | bfmt048
[07:59] <timfrost> HypnotiX: you can change the symlink with 'ln  -sf' eg 'ln -sf a b' will change the file 'b' to be  a link to 'a'
[08:01] <HypnotiX> im lost :)
[08:01] <HypnotiX> ill just remove them :D
[08:04] <timfrost> HypnotiX: what are the actual files/links and other details?  I (or others who are on-line) should be able to give you the commands that you need if we have that detail
[08:05] <HypnotiX> i just wanted to create a link to access my text editor in the terminal
[08:05] <HypnotiX> but there were was already a link made with that name
[08:08] <qin> what editor?/
[08:09] <HypnotiX> sublime
[08:10] <qin> right, is it for all users?
[08:11] <HypnotiX> im the only user :)
[08:11] <HypnotiX> so yeah i guess so
[08:12] <timfrost> HypnotiX: Does the link you want to change point to an entry in /etc/alternatives/ ?  If it does, it may be possible that sublime is a valid choice, in which case 'update-alternatives' may help
[08:12] <qin> I mean, you may want to use more exotic path for own links, scripts, etc..
[08:14] <hibari> whois lasers
[08:14] <hibari> lol
[08:16] <jost> Can anyone point me to an online or windows tool to decode Intel Machine Check exceptions?
[08:17] <HypnotiX> well
[08:18] <HypnotiX> i dont know what you mean qin
[08:18] <HypnotiX> i want to use sublime for all text related stuff
[08:19] <blazemore> HypnotiX: export EDITOR=/path/to/sublime_binary
[08:20] <HypnotiX> well i did it with "ls -s path/to/sublime" /usr/bin/foobar
[08:21] <blazemore> That will mean "foobar" will fun sublime
[08:21] <HypnotiX> and i edited the default.list and changed gedit to the sublime desktop file
[08:21] <blazemore> It won't set sublime to your default text editor
[08:21] <HypnotiX> yeah i know
[08:21] <HypnotiX> i edited the default.list for that
[08:24] <timfrost> HypnotiX: If  'path/to/sublime' doesn't start with a '/', it won't work unless you (or at least the terminal/program you are using to invoke sublime) are in the directory where that path IS valid.  You probably need to add the leading '
[08:29] <HypnotiX> i set it with to start with /
[08:33] <HAWiese> Moin, moin!
[08:33] <HAWiese> Moin, moin!
[08:34] <timfrost> HypnotiX: do you get sublime if you type 'foobar' in a terminal?
[08:34] <HypnotiX> yes
[08:35] <HypnotiX> well its sublime instead of foobar :)
[08:43] <timfrost> HypnotiX: In that case, you have created an appropriate symlink.  Did you get sublime from an official Ubuntu repository, a PPA, or somewhere else?
[08:43] <aldobr> hi all
[08:44] <HypnotiX> timfrost: ppa
[08:44] <HypnotiX> its not on the official i think
[08:44] <aldobr> after i install ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS i cannot use it because the refresh rate is set wrong right from grub...
[08:44] <aldobr> the monitor displays a Hz symbol to show that the refresh rate is wrong
[08:45] <aldobr> then nothing happens
[08:45] <aldobr> how to solve that
[08:45] <aldobr> j minetest
[08:46] <aldobr> ops
[08:46] <blazemore> !nomodeset | aldobr
[08:46] <aldobr> cant do
[08:46] <aldobr> i have no change to type anything
[08:46] <aldobr> just boots right into a wrong refresh screen
[08:46] <blazemore> Can you not even see Grub? You might have to hold Shift while your computer boots
[08:46] <aldobr> hmmmmmm
[08:46] <aldobr> shift hmmm
[08:46] <aldobr> ok, thanks i will try that
[08:47] <ayuya> hi
[08:50] <timfrost> HypnotiX: I suggest that you contact the PPA admins, and ask what is the "official" way to make sublime available, and for it to replace nano/vi/...
[08:51] <HypnotiX> from what i understand that repository is made by some guy
[08:51] <HypnotiX> not the people that made sublime
[08:52] <blazemore> The PPA doesn't add a menu entry?
[08:52] <HypnotiX> it does
[08:53] <regor> I have 2 computers (Windows 7 & Ubuntu 12.04) and a HP printer connected via ethernet cables to a cisco router. When I first installed ubuntu, I was able to access file shares located on my windows system but Ubuntu didn't show up on windows. Last night I installed samba thinking I probably needed that to do the job. Now I can't access either computer, either direction! Any suggestions?
[08:55] <aldobr> hi again
[08:55] <aldobr> nope, shift wont prevent grub from using a wrong refresh rate
[08:55] <aldobr> but, i found that if i press enter it boots into a correct refresh rate (duh)
[08:57] <blazemore> That's good aldobr. Take a look in /etc/default/grub for grub settings, make sure you run sudo update-grub after making changes
[09:24] <ActionPa1snip> regor: can you ping the other system?
[09:25] <ni291187> I need help...
[09:25] <thnee> Lot's of stuff seem to have breaked on one of our servers at august 8, can someone help me understand this syslog? http://pastebin.com/UQ4ab8wq
[09:26] <thnee> It's quite similar to this bug, but that's really old and we are on 12.04.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+bug/459730
[09:28] <twager> !seen dutchy
[09:29] <arash> hi , how can I disable TLS in the new firefox ?
[09:29] <blazemore> arash: http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/963325
[09:30] <sid418> mouse not working after upgrade to 12.04
[09:30] <arash> there doesn't seem to be a mark box for that ~~
[09:30] <blazemore> arash: Are you in about:config ?
[09:31] <arash> well thans
[09:31] <arash> thanks
[09:31] <arash> you know my friend , Iran actually sniffes the internet connections
[09:31] <arash> so TLS won't work
[09:31] <blazemore> I Googled "firefox disable tls" and clicked the first result, did it work?
[09:31] <arash> @blazemore worked perfectly
[09:33] <iceroot_> TLS will also work with man in the middle attack
[09:34] <iceroot_> so there is no single reason to disable it
[09:34] <sid418> how to get into working state of my mouse
[09:36] <babinlonston> how to PID location with PID is it possible ?
[09:36] <iceroot_> babinlonston: what?
[09:36] <blazemore> What do you mean, babinlonston ?
[09:36] <bekks> babinlonston: Whats a "PID location"?
[09:37] <babinlonston> in ubuntu im using passenger installed and it will start when nginx starts , and i want to know the location of pid , were its located
[09:37] <bekks> babinlonston: There is no need to contact me outside this channel to answer my question.
[09:37] <babinlonston> is't possible to find the pid file location using PID 12545 some think like this
[09:37] <blazemore> What do you mean by "location of pid", that's the part that I don't understand
[09:38] <regor> ActionPa1snip, 0% packet loss!
[09:38] <babinlonston> bekks: im not contacted u :p
[09:38] <bekks> babinlonston: What exactly are you trying with that PID?
[09:38] <iceroot_> babinlonston: the pid is in your ram, its not on your filesystem so there is no location
[09:38] <babinlonston> i want to monitor the process so i need to point the pid location
[09:38] <regor> let me try it both ways!
[09:38] <sid418> after upgrade into 12.04 my mouse is not working anyone help please , any suggestions about what can i do now
[09:39] <blazemore> babinlonston: /var/run/nginx.pid maybe?
[09:39] <babinlonston> iceroot_: every pid have a location under /var/run/ something
[09:39] <blazemore> !patiende | sid418
[09:39] <blazemore> !patience | sid418
[09:39] <iceroot_> babinlonston: i thought only pid-files are stored there
[09:39] <babinlonston> blazemore: yeap u right but there no pid for passenger
[09:39] <regor> 0% packet loss both directions!
[09:40] <iceroot_> babinlonston: that are pidfiles in /var/run/  that is not the pid itself
[09:40] <iceroot_> babinlonston: like this one /var/run/dhclient6-eth0.pid
[09:40] <babinlonston> that what im talking iceroot
[09:40] <babinlonston> yeap
[09:41] <iceroot_> babinlonston: not every program is creating a pid file
[09:42] <babinlonston> iceroot_: yeap ur right and which service im talking about is passenger and its have pid  while im doing ps -aux | grep passenger
[09:43] <bekks> Why do you need the pid file to monitor the process? Just monitor "ps -aux"
[09:43] <iceroot_> babinlonston: and as i said earlier, pidfile is not a pid and not every program is creating a pidfile
[09:43] <bekks> A stale pid file will provide misleading information.
[09:44] <babinlonston> ok
[09:44] <iceroot_> babinlonston: ps aux | grep passenger
[09:44] <crazyhorse> hey so what do you do for encrypted rolling backups in ubuntu?
[09:44] <crazyhorse> is there anything nice and easy?
[09:44] <blazemore> crazyhorse: If I were you I'd just encrypt the entire drive you're backing up to with Truecrypt
[09:44] <crazyhorse> ok.. that's easy enough
[09:44] <crazyhorse> what do i use for rolling backups?
[09:44] <blazemore> crazyhorse: And then use a regular incremental backup app to back up to it
[09:45] <crazyhorse> any suggestions?
[09:45] <babinlonston> 1001     27298  0.0  8.1 684068 329064 ?       Sl   Aug08   0:10 Passenger
[09:45] <blazemore> Not personally, no, rolling backups don't fit my workflow
[09:45] <iceroot_> crazyhorse: deja-dup
[09:45] <iceroot_> crazyhorse: installed by default
[09:46] <crazyhorse> iceroot: does it store everything or just deltas?
[09:47] <iceroot_> crazyhorse: deltas
[09:47] <iceroot_> crazyhorse: first backup = everything, all others backups = deltas with encryption
[09:47] <crazyhorse> oh right nice.. ok so a good solution
[09:47] <crazyhorse> just a removable harddrive
[09:48] <crazyhorse> encrypted with truecrypt.. plug it in, put in pw, run the backup
[09:49] <blazemore> yep
[09:49] <bekks> crazyhorse: But keep in mind, that you need a running system with truecrypt installed to restore your backup.
[09:49] <crazyhorse> bekks: yeah, it only takes a couple of mins to setup
[09:49] <crazyhorse> so that should be ok
[09:50] <iceroot_> crazyhorse: the backup itself is using encryption, no need for truecrypt
[09:51] <crazyhorse> really, what encryption does it use?
[09:51] <crazyhorse> doesn't mention it in the application
[09:52] <blazemore> crazyhorse: I'd still recommend using Truecrypt because then it'll be easier to restore
[09:52] <crazyhorse> there are still no options for switching encryption on or off
[09:53] <crazyhorse> additionally it says it uses duplicity to do the encryption but i can't see any details of what encyrption it's using
[09:53] <bekks> crazyhorse: Is your host system encrypted too?
[09:53] <iceroot_> crazyhorse: man duplicity
[09:54] <gsommer> In Gnome Classic, now do I change mouse acceleration? (Not sensitivity) ?
[09:54] <crazyhorse> bekks: yeah
[09:54] <crazyhorse> not with truecrypt though
[09:54] <iceroot_> crazyhorse: encrypting  tar- format  volumes with GnuPG
[09:55] <iceroot_> crazyhorse: man gnupg   as well
[09:55] <crazyhorse> iceroot: yeah i'm reading on the website instead :D
[09:56] <crazyhorse> ok is it possible to have two sets of backup?
[09:56] <crazyhorse> a local office one that happens every day
[09:56] <crazyhorse> and a weekly backup that i use with an offsite drive i bring in
[09:56] <iceroot_> crazyhorse: not by default
[09:57] <iceroot_> crazyhorse: it will always create the delta for your last backup, you cant use 2 different deltas
[09:57] <iceroot_> crazyhorse: you have to run duplicity twice with different options
[09:57] <crazyhorse> lets say for example i have Computer A backing up to HDD1..  if i then plug in HDD2 and then do another backup
[09:57] <crazyhorse> presumably it will run again
[09:58] <iceroot_> crazyhorse: in deja-dup you have to change the target directory, so that you are working on 2 directories (you have ti change it everytime you want a different backup (dayly or weekly)
[09:58] <crazyhorse> yeah ok
[09:58] <crazyhorse> or maybe have the daily one setup through the UI
[09:58] <iceroot_> crazyhorse: it will run again with the delta for the last backup it will found, so when you switch the hdd it will work
[09:58] <crazyhorse> and just have a command i run manually to do the weekly one
[10:01] <caty> Hey, anyone know how to search through a lot of .html files at once with a word or phase?
[10:01] <blazemore> caty: grep word *.html
[10:02] <ActionPa1snip> caty: definitely grep
[10:02] <thinced> yep
[10:02] <caty> ah okay thanks
[10:02] <thinced> with -R you can make it recursive
[10:03] <ActionPa1snip> caty: you can even grep the resulting text to filter the text further
[10:04] <ActionPa1snip> caty: grep -R test *.html | grep foo
[10:06] <crazyhorse> does anyone run ubuntu on a macbook pro?
[10:06] <crazyhorse> what's the battery life like?
[10:06] <ActionPa1snip> crazyhorse: depends on the model
[10:06] <crazyhorse> Mid-2010
[10:06] <ActionPa1snip> crazyhorse: macbook pro is a lot of systems
[10:06] <ActionPa1snip> !mac | crazyhorse
[10:07] <syko> hey guys!
[10:08] <crazyhorse> ActionPa1snip: ok, so in general, peformance etc should be good
[10:08] <crazyhorse> and i shouldn't have any major issues?
[10:08] <ActionPa1snip> crazyhorse: well, no. MacOS is designed specifically to run specifically on that hardware
[10:08] <crazyhorse> right, so there are some performance issues?
[10:08] <crazyhorse> or battery or what?
[10:09] <ActionPa1snip> crazyhorse: so no OS wil lrun as well as MacOS will run as well as the OS is specifically tailored. The Apple OS is designed and tweaked to run on your overproced Apple hardware
[10:09] <crazyhorse> i didn't ask will it run as well as
[10:10] <ActionPa1snip> crazyhorse: it wont perform as well
[10:10] <crazyhorse> for example a while back windows performance on the mac was awful, and you'd only get an hour or so of battery life out of it
[10:10] <ActionPa1snip> crazyhorse: it will probably work well.
[10:10] <crazyhorse> ok cool
[10:11] <heraclitus> running 3.5.0-31-generic, attempting to install ati proprietary drivers for radeon x1300/x1550 series (legacy driver). Get Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version is there a fix for this? Or is my kernel not supported?
[10:11] <bekks> heraclitus: Whats the very exact error message, can you put it into sa pastebin please?
[10:12] <ActionPa1snip> heraclitus: tried the legacy PPA for the driver
[10:12] <auronandace> heraclitus: that sounds like a rather old radeon card, are you sure you can't use the open default drivers?
[10:15] <heraclitus> I'm sure I can't use the open default drivers. I attempted to install the ppa with #apt-get install fglrx-installer Here's the pastebin of the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/5976731/
[10:16] <bekks> heraclitus: So which card do you actually have?
[10:16] <heraclitus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5976739/
[10:16] <heraclitus> Radeon x1300 :)
[10:18] <ActionPa1snip> heraclitus: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[10:18] <heraclitus> ah, the ppa seems to be working now.... let's see if it works
[10:19] <ActionPa1snip> heraclitus: its a groovy ppa
[10:19] <heraclitus> lol groovy baby
[10:27] <jellow> anyone recommend any good calender app for ubuntu and android that can sync together?
[10:27] <ActionPa1snip> jellow: one that can read google calendar.....
[10:28] <ActionPa1snip> jellow: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/how-to-integrate-google-calendar-with.html
[10:28] <jellow> ActionPa1snip: rather not use good to be honest
[10:28] <jellow> google^
[10:28] <ActionPa1snip> jellow: but your Android devcie uses Google calendar......right
[10:29] <anuvrat> please take a look at this https://dpaste.de/zMzQw/
[10:29] <ActionPa1snip> !info rabbitmq-server
[10:29] <anuvrat> I am trying to install rabbitmq-server and apt-says that it will remove postgres and I am not able to understand why :(
[10:30] <ActionPa1snip> anuvrat: are there any bugs reported?
[10:32] <anuvrat> ActionPa1snip, I don't know ... I am in the middle of developing my django app and I need both postgres and rabbitmq to be installed on my system
[10:33] <anuvrat> I installed postgres-9.2 on 5th of august, and that is the last date in rabbitmq's logs on my system.
[10:33] <anuvrat> I am presuming that installing postgres somehow removed rabbitmq and now when I am trying to install rabbitmq it says it will remove postgres ...
[10:33] <anuvrat> what to d o?
[10:33] <ActionPa1snip> anuvrat: I'd see if there is a bug reported
[10:34] <ActionPa1snip> anuvrat: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[10:34] <anuvrat> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[10:34] <anuvrat> ActionPa1snip, Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[10:35] <ActionPa1snip> anuvrat: for a server? not the LTS?
[10:36] <anuvrat> ActionPa1snip, this is my local machine that I develop on.
[10:39] <absab> how do you convert from ODT to JPG (or PNG) ? is there an app that converts many different filetypes?
[10:40] <sam_> I have a folder with many images of different names. I have another image with which I need to replace all these images. I need to retain the names of the original images. How to automate this?
[10:42] <blazemore> sam_: for filename in `ls directory_of_files`; do rm $filename; mv path/to/other_image $filename; done
[10:42] <alfreddba> mmnoit not starting up..pls guide me..
[10:42] <absab> blazemore: help me too :)
[10:43] <blazemore> absab: .odt is an Openoffice Writer file, you can't really convert it to a png
[10:43] <alfreddba> how to install and configure mmnoit
[10:43] <blazemore> absab: Unles you mean like a picture of the document
[10:43] <reisio> sam_: you can't use the word 'image' for every variable
[10:44] <absab> how about PDF to JPG?
[10:44] <reisio> pdfimages -j
[10:44] <blazemore> absab: Imagemagic is what you need
[10:45] <absab> ok thanks all
[10:45] <blazemore> !details | alfreddba are you getting an error?
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> alfreddba  mmnoit is not in the repos and my seach engine does not find it... what is it?
[10:51] <sam_> blazemore: thnx it worked
[10:57] <gmag> hello. My machine just simply stopped launching grub at start and the screen goes blank. I booted with an ubuntu live cd, and I am not trying to have access to some config files from my partition. I am trying to mount sda1 somewhere in /mnt, with mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt/mydisk, does this make any sense? I am getting an error: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage or helper program, other error. Any ideas?
[10:58] <gmag> oops, "I am not trying"* should be "I am trying"
[10:58] <ActionPa1snip> gmag: you can mount partitions using Nautilus
[10:58] <blazemore> gmag: Can you please post the output of "sudo fdisk -l" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:58] <ActionPa1snip> gmag: gmag if the superblock is bad, try a different superblock
[10:59] <streulma> as I think, 13.10 should work on my Retina! Is it good to try 13.10? Or is it better to install the 3.10 kernel in 13.04
[10:59] <ActionPa1snip> streulma: it is pre-release so is not ready and officially not stable
[10:59] <ActionPa1snip> streulma: 13.10 support and discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[11:00] <streulma> ok
[11:05] <alfreddba> MonkeyDust:sorry mmonit
[11:07] <alfreddba> blazemore: am not getting any error web browser unable to load..am using ubuntu 12.04.. i installed monit its working great..pls guide me..
[11:11] <gmag> ActionPa1snip,  sry for the delay: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5976884/
[11:11] <gmag> oops, that was for blazemore
[11:13] <blazemore> gmag: And which drive are you trying to mount, do you know? The FAT32 one?
[11:13] <gmag> blazemore, sda1
[11:14] <michaelwarbrick> Hi
[11:14] <blazemore> gmag: Could you pastebin the output of "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" ?
[11:14] <michaelwarbrick> I need to copy files from Mac OSX to Ubuntu via external hard-drive
[11:14] <michaelwarbrick> what file format should I format it with?
[11:14] <blazemore> michaelwarbrick: the word you want is "filesystem", and the answer is fat32
[11:14] <michaelwarbrick> blazemore: i have files larger than 4gb
[11:15] <mudkip908> exFAT?
[11:15] <blazemore> michaelwarbrick: NTFS then, unless OSX support ext
[11:15] <michaelwarbrick> yeah  I could format as NTFS
[11:15] <gmag> blazemore, it takes a long time until it outputs this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5976895/
[11:15] <michaelwarbrick> does NTFS support checksums?
[11:15] <michaelwarbrick> hmmm
[11:15] <gmag> blazemore, and /mnt has nothing
[11:16] <blazemore> gmag: Can you please post the output of "sudo fdisk -l" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:16] <blazemore> wrong one sorry gmag
[11:16] <blazemore> gmag: Could you pastebin the output of "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" ?
[11:17] <gmag> I am doing all this stuff as root
[11:17] <gmag> @blazemore
[11:17] <blazemore> gmag: No need for sudo then
[11:17] <blazemore> gmag: Could you pastebin the output of "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" ?
[11:18] <gmag> blazemore, what am I missing, I just did that
[11:18] <blazemore> gmag: where?
 blazemore, it takes a long time until it outputs this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5976895/
[11:18] <blazemore> oh sorry
[11:18] <gmag> blazemore, happens to me all the time
[11:18] <michaelwarbrick> what's considered the best in terms of performance/reliability file system under ubuntu?
[11:18] <michaelwarbrick> ext4?
[11:19] <blazemore> michaelwarbrick: ext4 is recommended yes, and it's the default fs
[11:19] <blazemore> gmag: Can you boot from a LiveCD/USB ?
[11:19] <blazemore> actually doesn't matter gmag
[11:20] <gmag> blazemore, I am currently on a live cd
[11:20] <blazemore> gmag: can you run "fsck /dev/sda1"
[11:20] <gmag> blazemore, I cant boot without Live cd
[11:20] <gmag> blazemore, I am running that check
[11:21] <blazemore> OK I'm going to lunch now
[11:21] <gmag> blazemore, wait pls
[11:21] <gmag> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5976913/
[11:21] <gmag> it was fast
[11:21] <michaelwarbrick> blazemore: ah it looks like i can get Ext4 support in both windows and osx
[11:21] <gmag> :)
[11:22] <blazemore> gmag: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/Advanced_Find_ext2_ext3_Backup_SuperBlock
[11:22] <blazemore> michaelwarbrick: careful, it might be a bit sketchy. I'd bet Linux/OSX support for NTFS is better than Windows support for ext
[11:22] <gmag> blazemore, ok, thanks. have a nice lunch
[11:24] <michaelwarbrick> blazemore: it's made my paragon
[11:24] <michaelwarbrick> all their other file managment thingys work
[11:26] <michaelwarbrick> i've been using their NTFS one for years
[11:29] <s7r`> uuubuntuu
[11:29] <s7r`> i want to use ubuntu as my default operating system
[11:29] <s7r`> can I ?
[11:30] <ActionPa2snip> s7r`: yes
[11:30] <DJones> s7r`: As long as your computer will let it be installed, then yes
[11:31] <kari> Can somebody light me little bit. I have now fresh xubuntu 12.04 32bit installation. I go to youtube.com and it ask me to download flash player (tho in the background videos are opening normally).
[11:31] <utfans05> !flash
[11:31] <ActionPa2snip> kari: which browsers have you tried?
[11:32] <kari> ActionPa2snip, this is fresh installation. i have only firefox here
[11:32] <ActionPa2snip> kari: can you please give a pastebin of the output of:   lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swk|spark'
[11:32] <ActionPa2snip> kari: try other browsers, see how they are affected
[11:34] <kari> ActionPa2snip,  im pretty sure it doesn't work with anything. gpu is 2002 and desktop 2004  :D i have now nvidia-96 drivers but here is the pastebin http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5976961/
[11:35] <kari> ActionPa2snip, im still wondering how it can show flash videos in the background even i haven't install any?
[11:35] <ActionPa2snip> kari: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[11:35] <kari> ActionPa2snip,  or is youtube it using now html5? i can install flashplugin-installer but then i dont get any videos :/
[11:37] <kari> ActionPa2snip, ok wait lets do this your way :) i will now install that installer.
[11:37] <ActionPa2snip> kari: seems like firefox expects a package, its a 'feature'
[11:38] <kari> ActionPa2snip,  ok now i have installer. whats next?
[11:39] <ActionPa2snip> kari: close firefox then reopen it
[11:39] <kari> ActionPa2snip,  i started firefox from console to get some debug..." ###!!! [Parent][RPCChannel] Error: Channel error: cannot send/recv"
[11:39] <kari> ActionPa2snip,  that error comes 154534543 times atleast
[11:40] <wasanzy> hi
[11:40] <wasanzy> on ubuntu 10 server , what is rsync called?
[11:41] <bekks> wasanzy: "rsync".
[11:42] <wasanzy> same? because I can't find it on my ubuntu 10 server
[11:42] <ActionPa2snip> !info rsync
[11:42] <ActionPa2snip> wasanzy: is it installed?
[11:42] <ezra-s> "dpkg -l | grep rsync"  to see if it's installed or "apt-get cache search rsync" to search for it in the list of available packages
[11:42] <ActionPa2snip> kari: do the flash video play as expected?
[11:43] <wasanzy> I thought it came by default
[11:43] <kari> ActionPa2snip,  no, black window there where it show it.
[11:43] <ActionPa2snip> wasanzy: maybe not in server, simple to install
[11:43] <ActionPa2snip> kari: ok, remove the package
[11:43] <ezra-s> s/apt-get/apt-cache/
[11:44] <wasanzy> yh bt version 10 i no more  supported so so I can't seem to install from repo
[11:44] <kari> ActionPa2snip, ok, but what is that error what comes to console all the time when i try to watch video.
[11:44] <kari> ActionPa2snip, only comes if i start firefox from console
[11:44] <ActionPa2snip> i see, weird
[11:45] <bekks> wasanzy: Well, then you dont even have ubuntu.
[11:45] <kari> ActionPa2snip,  and i have nvidia gpu GeForce4 MX 440
[11:45] <ezra-s> wasanzy, http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/i386/rsync/download
[11:46] <wasanzy> thank you ezra-s
[11:46] <ezra-s> there repo is still there
[11:46] <mandrake-> any way to upgrade from gnome 3.5.4 to 3.6 when using ubuntu 12.04?
[11:46] <ezra-s> rsync is in the secury updates
[11:47] <ezra-s> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/r/rsync/rsync_3.0.7-1ubuntu1.1_i386.deb more precisely
[11:47] <kari> ActionPa2snip,  im pretty sure that when we discover what is that channel error: cannot send/recv. we can find solution :)
[11:48] <istiaque> What is the best video converter for ubuntu?
[11:48] <Ben64> !best | istiaque
[11:49] <ActionPa2snip> istiaque: there isnt a single best, or the others would cease to exist
[11:49] <ezra-s> istiaque, I would be transcode is
[11:49] <ezra-s> bet
[11:49] <ActionPa2snip> istiaque: your question is as intelligent as "what is the best colour of the rainbow?"
[11:49] <ezra-s> Blue!
[11:49] <ActionPa2snip> istiaque: you will get opinions, none are best
[11:50] <ActionPa2snip> istiaque: do you seriously think there is one single best?
[11:50] <ezra-s> for him there will be
[11:50] <ezra-s> :)
[11:50] <kari> istiaque, for my use, this xubuntu is the best. i found nvidia-96 driver packget straight form repository. :)
[11:50] <ActionPa2snip> ezra-s: yes but user is asking a channel of randoms
[11:50] <ezra-s> ActionPa2snip, I know, just playing along
[11:50] <istiaque> Please give some list of video converter in ubuntu?
[11:50] <ActionPa2snip> istiaque: why not try a few, see which you like and use that one as you have evaluated it best for your needs
[11:51] <ezra-s> istiaque, use the software-center and search it yourself, lazy one!
[11:51] <ActionPa2snip> istiaque: http://askubuntu.com/questions/27864/best-video-converter
[11:52] <ActionPa2snip> istiaque: again, do you seriously expect there to be a single best video converter?
[11:52] <ActionPa2snip> istiaque: in any OS>
[11:52] <istiaque> Thank you very much,,ActionPa2snip>
[11:53] <ActionPa2snip> istiaque: can you please answer my question
[11:53] <ezra-s> ActionPa2snip, your effords to get such a question answered are futile :P
[11:54] <ActionPa2snip> ezra-s: just trying to make people think...just a little bit
[11:54] <babinlonston>  how to install mmonit  Monitoring server
[11:54] <kari> ActionPa2snip,  ok now im installing chromium. lets see
[11:54] <ActionPa2snip> !info mmonit
[11:54] <ActionPa2snip> ok, let me search the web....
[11:54] <fidel> !info monit
[11:55] <fidel> babinlonston: i guess you mean that package - not mmonit
[11:55] <ActionPa2snip> babinlonston: do you mean monit?
[11:55] <ezra-s> ActionPa2snip, hope your faith does not fade
[11:55] <istiaque> i think ,,here lot of soft of video converter ,,its my mistake,,and i am new here ,,so i ActionPa2snip> so i think
[11:55] <ActionPa2snip> istiaque: its nothing to do with new
[11:55] <ActionPa2snip> istiaque: its as smart as "what is the best fizzy drink?"
[11:56] <ActionPa2snip> istiaque: the question is ridiculous. There is no single best
[11:56] <istiaque> ha ha ha,,
[11:56]  * ezra-s scratches head, fizzy?
[11:56] <istiaque> i agree with sir ActionPa2snip>
[11:56] <ActionPa2snip> ezra-s: carbonated?
[11:56] <babinlonston> mmonit .. it will Monitor Multiple Host in single one , already i have installed monit in 3 servers now i need to connect those 3 server's to one server which was installed with mmonit
[11:56] <ezra-s> ohh
[11:56] <ActionPa2snip> babinlonston: http://mmonit.com/wiki/Monit/Installation     says its monit
[11:57] <ezra-s> ActionPa2snip, asturian cider of course!!!
[11:57] <ActionPa2snip> ezra-s: I dunno, Rubicon mango never fails t satisfy
[11:57] <ezra-s> specially while you eat roquefort cheese
[11:57] <babinlonston> fidel: http://mmonit.com  here its and the installation not helps me what mentioned here in this site im using ubuntu 12.04 server
[11:57] <babinlonston> ActionPa2snip: its http://mmonit.com
[11:57] <ezra-s> ActionPa2snip, rubicon mango, that sounds like manufactured crap
[11:57] <ezra-s> :P
[11:58] <ezra-s> filled with sugar and unhealthy
[11:58] <fidel> babinlonston: just realized there is mmonit as well. as MMonit is not available via ubuntu-repo - you have to install it manually (most likely) or via a ppa (if that exists for this project)
[11:58] <kari> ActionPa2snip, interesting... so now i installed first chroium and then again flashplugin and now it crashed. falied to load video....
[11:59] <ActionPa2snip> babinlonston: http://mmonit.com   click wiki, how to, Install Monit
[11:59] <ActionPa2snip> babinlonston: from the link _you_ gave
[11:59] <babinlonston> fidel: yes u right how can i go through it
[11:59] <bekks> babinlonston: I guess you have to actually read the howto ;)
[11:59] <ActionPa2snip> babinlonston: http://ludwigkb.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/monitoring-with-munin-and-monit-mmonit.html
[12:00] <ezra-s> kari, Google Chrome (not chromium) is the only one which comes with flash pre-installed for it and maintained by google
[12:00] <babinlonston> ActionPa2snip: its not help buddy alreay googled :)
[12:01] <ActionPa2snip> babinlonston: I prefer to quack
[12:01] <kari> ezra-s,  ok thanks. lets see now :) i will install that one
[12:01] <quackgyver> QUACK!!!!
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> duckduckgo <3
[12:01] <quackgyver> QUACK!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:01] <babinlonston> ActionPa2snip: let me have a look at your link thanks mate
[12:01] <FloodBot1> quackgyver: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:01] <quackgyver> QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK !!!!!!
[12:01] <ActionPa2snip> babinlonston: from the link you gave I got the link I gave you by navigating the same page you gave
[12:01] <quackgyver> :)
[12:01] <ActionPa2snip> babinlonston: so its safe to say, that's how it is installed
[12:01] <quackgyver> Quack you.
[12:01] <babinlonston> k
[12:01] <ezra-s> quackgyver, you got quacked
[12:02] <quackgyver> No, you got quacked
[12:02] <quackgyver> by yours truly
[12:02] <quackgyver> get your facts straight bucko
[12:02] <quackgyver> get your quacking quacks straight
[12:02] <ezra-s> oh my, he's on quacksteroids
[12:02] <ActionPa2snip> or  bad wrap of quack
[12:03] <babinlonston> ActionPa2snip: its told me to start mmonit using ./bin/mmonit , but the service is not starting then what may be the problem :(
[12:03] <quackgyver> You know how you can tell when a channel is good?
[12:03] <DJones> !ot | quackgyver
[12:03] <quackgyver> It's when people play along with the joke. Instead of doing !bot commands to shut you down
[12:03] <quackgyver> Oh.
[12:03]  * ezra-s chuckles
[12:03] <quackgyver> ...nevermind....
[12:04] <quackgyver> *steps back into the shadows again. the faint echo of a quack rings in your ears*
[12:05] <blazemore> Would you rather drown a baby or eat all the faces off a litter of puppies?
[12:06] <ezra-s> ¿¿¿¿¿?????
[12:06] <bekks> blazemore: Neither nor. You and quackgyver are now on my ignore list. Welcome to the trash can.
[12:07] <babinlonston> AssertException: Required <License> element not found -- in '/usr/local/mmonit-2.4/conf/server.xml' near line 354 this mean i need to buy the licence ?
[12:08] <bekks> babinlonston: Thats an assertion, not an error.
[12:08] <ezra-s> babinlonston, have you tried reading the program documentation before using it?
[12:09] <babinlonston> yeap
[12:09] <fidel> and you used the app before?
[12:09] <kari> ezra-s,  ok  now youtube videos work with chrome own player. This computer is going to go small girl and she wants to play facebook games :) it now wantas get.adobe flash player
[12:10] <blazemore> kari: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:11] <kari> ok, i can install that nonfree version also, but lets see...i think it won't work
[12:11] <ezra-s> kari, problem with adobe flash is that it is no longer supported under linux so installing it manually will probably have you with outdated version, so your best bet imo is to use Google Chrome
[12:12] <ezra-s> someone may correct me on this
[12:12] <kari> ezra-s,  i think you are right.
[12:14] <moldy> hi
[12:15] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[12:15] <moldy> trying to update 10.04 to 12.04. /var/lib/dpkg/status apparently contains several corruptions, e.g. dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 54558 package 'libgnome2-0'  duplicate value for `Package' field
[12:15] <moldy> how do i fix this?
[12:16] <ezra-s> moldy, have you tried "sudo apt-get -f install" ?
[12:17] <ShapeShifter499> I have this odd issue, I have two similar hotspot devices, known as the Overdrive and Overdrive Pro. The latter being a smaller brother of the two devices. Anyways they seem to use the same USB id codes when connected to my ubuntu system and therefor the two tethered connections are treated as one although there should be two. How do I fix this?
[12:17] <moldy> ezra-s: yep. all the standard ways fail because the status file is corrupted
[12:17] <ezra-s> I have no experience with that upgrade, didn't even know it could be done, although it may make sense since it is lts 2 lts
[12:17] <moldy> ezra-s: i.e. apt-get -f install, apt-get autoclean, etc.
[12:17] <Guest22339> why does firefox not use libnotify other than it not linking driectly to downloads folder after a download being completed
[12:17] <philinux> ezra-s:  Flash version here is 11.2.202.297 and still getting security updates
[12:17] <kari> ezra-s,  where i can set autologin on in this xubuntu  .config/xfce?
[12:18] <philinux> ezra-s: using firefox
[12:18] <ezra-s> moldy, my best bet would be to go to /var/lib/dpkg/status and see that line, maybe remove it, making a backup of course
[12:18] <ezra-s> wild speculation
[12:18] <ezra-s> philinux, installed from .deb package from the distro?
[12:19] <cutie> ActionParsnip: moldy could use your dropbox apt-fixing script
[12:19] <philinux> ezra-s: yes
[12:19] <moldy> ezra-s: yeah, i fixed the corruptions manually now, seems to work
[12:19] <ezra-s> philinux, thanks for letting us know , will check that when I get home :)
[12:19] <babinlonston> Hi
[12:19] <ezra-s> moldy, lucky bastage :)
[12:20] <ShapeShifter499> does anyone have any ideas on my issue?
[12:21] <moldy> next problem: http://pastebin.com/XTduWVcE apt-get -f install doesn't help
[12:21] <babinlonston> I want to contact my office persons though local network and it want to be only local messenger .. i tried gnome2ip messenger and its not working properly it have some dependency problem, Any one have local ip mesesenger  ?
[12:22] <ezra-s> ShapeShifter499, I have no idea, if they are different devices they should be treated as such, same id would imply a hw manufacturing error, afaik, I bet they have different MAC Address, so here is my super wild scpeculation without even looking, there could be some kind of automatic bonding there? (feeling wild today)
[12:22] <Guest22339> why does firefox not use libnotify other than it not linking driectly to downloads folder after a download being completed o also cant seem to find any way to implament it
[12:22] <Fieldy> babinlonston: set up a jabber server and use something that can talk jabber, like pidgin. you can compile it to only support jabber if you wish.
[12:23] <ShapeShifter499> ezra-s, if this is true would I have doubled speeds?
[12:23] <babinlonston> Fieldy: will it work around my local network ?
[12:23] <philinux> ezra-s: quote "First of all, Adobe will start enforcing this new policy only after Flash Player 11.2 is officially released. Then, after that, it will continue providing security updates for five years for non-Pepper versions of their software.
[12:23] <ShapeShifter499> ezra-s, one alone gives me around 500kb/s to 1mb/s
[12:23] <ezra-s> ShapeShifter499, no idea really
[12:24] <ezra-s> ShapeShifter499, sorry
[12:24] <philinux> ezra-s: from here. good explanation. http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/flash-linux-future.html
[12:24] <ezra-s> philinux, there it is.. thanks for sharing it man!, I knew I had read something about it but I didn't remember it perfectly
[12:24] <ezra-s> kari, see what philinux has shared
[12:25] <kari> ezra-s,  thank you :)
[12:25] <ezra-s> basically if something somewhere requires flash over 11.2 you are screwed :P
[12:25] <ezra-s> don't know if chrome will go further
[12:26] <Fieldy> no big loss
[12:26]  * ezra-s reading article
[12:27] <GrubInitram> !trisquel
[12:27] <bekks> ezra-s: chrome is at 11.7 already...
[12:27] <GrubInitram> Can somebody help me with grub + initram although I use Trisquel?
[12:28] <GrubInitram> Can somebody help me with grub + initram + cryptsetup although I use Trisquel?
[12:28] <bekks> GrubInitram: Whats trisquel?
[12:28] <DJones> GrubInitram: This channel only supports the official Ubuntu releases
[12:29] <GrubInitram> Oh, ok
[12:29] <GrubInitram> Trisquel is a free distribution based on Ubuntu
[12:29] <georoot> hi can someone tell me how to compile a c application to plain .bin in ubuntu??
[12:29] <bekks> GrubInitram: And its not an official release, so it isnt supported in gere.
[12:29] <bekks> *here
[12:30] <ezra-s> the article gets funny at the near bottom
[12:30] <GrubInitram> I guessed, but my question is regarding a common package. Doesn't that count?
[12:30] <GrubInitram> :D?
[12:30] <georoot> hi can someone tell me how to compile a c application to plain .bin in ubuntu??
[12:30] <fidel> !repeat
[12:30] <DJones> GrubInitram: I'm afraid not, we don't support other variants because we don't know what changes they dev's could have made
[12:30] <moldy> georoot: nothing ubuntu specific about it. use gcc.
[12:31] <georoot> tell me syantax in gcc please..
[12:31] <ikonia> syntax ?
[12:31] <ikonia> for what
[12:31] <GrubInitram> That's an odd question
[12:31] <hayer> He wants to compile a .c -> .bin
[12:31] <moldy> georoot: which application is it?
[12:31] <Spec-Chum> geowhat are you trying to do?
[12:31] <Spec-Chum> whoops
[12:31] <Spec-Chum> georoot: ^^
[12:31] <OerHeks> GrubInitram, /join #trisquel
[12:32] <georoot> simple application for a school
[12:32] <moldy> georoot: if you just have one c file, iirc you can do "cc foo.c"
[12:32] <hayer> gcc -o test.bin test.c
[12:32] <bekks> GrubInitram: No, it doesnt count. We dont know whats different in trisquel. Please refer to the trisquel support.
[12:32] <GrubInitram> Ok
[12:32] <georoot> thanks hayer
[12:32] <GrubInitram> I see that you are busy with many questions
[12:32] <moldy> georoot: that will create a file a.out. or you can use the -o switch as mentioned by hayer.
[12:32] <GrubInitram> I'll leave you alone
[12:33] <moldy> how do i fix unmet dependencies if apt-get -f doesn't do it?
[12:34] <GrubInitram> moldy: you could try installing aptitude: "sudo apt-get install aptitude" and then run it: "sudo aptitude" or you can try synaptics
[12:35] <OerHeks> Carefull with Aptitude on a 64 bit system.
[12:35] <OerHeks> moldy what errors do you get? use paste.ubuntu.com to paste
[12:36] <moldy> GrubInitram: http://pastebin.com/XTduWVcE
[12:36] <moldy> GrubInitram: hm, thanks. i thought apt-get was the currently recommended package manager, but i guess i was mistaken about that?
[12:36] <GrubInitram> moldy: No don't listen to me
[12:36] <GrubInitram> I am a power user, not developer or anything
[12:37] <OerHeks> !aptitude
[12:37] <kari> i just noticed, that if i want to shutdown this xubuntu it will hang :D  should i try to add acpi=off to kernel parameters?
[12:37] <moldy> well, at least aptitiute seems to do some more calculation, i will see how it ends up...
[12:38] <GrubInitram> Good luck
[12:38] <moldy> thank you :)
[12:40] <GrubInitram> moldy: by the way, aptitude can give you several solutions
[12:41] <mudkip908> kari: add acpi_osi="Windows 2006
[12:41] <moldy> unfortunately, aptitude doesn't offer a solution either :(
[12:41] <mudkip908> kari: acpi_osi="Windows 2006"
[12:41] <GrubInitram> moldy: if you just run 'sudo aptitude' it displays a window in terminal. you can look for packages pressing l key
[12:41] <GrubInitram> oh, sad
[12:42] <GrubInitram> Do you have some kind of special ppa or repository
[12:42] <GrubInitram> ?
[12:42] <kari> mudkip908,  why "windows 2006" ???
[12:42] <moldy> GrubInitram: i had a few before the release-upgrade
[12:42] <Capprentice> Which channel I might get to chit chat on anything ? This seems a ubuntu only channel :P
[12:43] <mudkip908> kari: because it's a value that works on many computers. you can also try "Windows 2001" and "Windows 2001.1"
[12:43] <Pici> Capprentice: #ubuntu-offtopic is our non-support channel.
[12:43] <DJones> !alis | Capprentice
[12:43] <GrubInitram> Ooohhh, you are doing  release-upgrade
[12:43] <GrubInitram> Well, that is always a pain for me.
[12:43] <moldy> yep :-/
[12:44] <GrubInitram> I think that you should ask the experts around here
[12:44] <GrubInitram> By the way, I am not an Ubuntu user. Apparently, I cannot ask questions, but I can help people! HAHAHA
[12:44] <GrubInitram> Isn't that ironic?
[12:44] <GrubInitram> Well, see you, moldy
[12:45] <GrubInitram> I have to see how to solve my own trouble
[12:45] <kari> mudkip908,  thanks i will test those :)
[12:47] <OWDH> ikonia bruda ola
[12:47] <ikonia> OWDH: hello
[12:47] <OWDH> Ongavezir Da Holyness köszönt titeket
[12:48] <ikonia> OWDH: please talk in English in this channel
[12:48] <OWDH> Hello Matthew
[12:48] <Capprentice> @Ikokia : You are alive !!?????? !!! :P
[12:48] <ikonia> Capprentice: ?
[12:49] <Capprentice> You are the one who get on my nerves. You are the expert I alwys were taking advice 7 months ago :P
[12:49] <ikonia> Capprentice: apologies, I don't remember you
[12:49] <OWDH> :D
[12:49] <Capprentice> No need. Its gr8 to see u again :P
[12:49] <^2fC> hi yall :D
[12:49] <OWDH> And do you remember me, ikonia bro?
[12:50] <ikonia> guys can we get back to Ubuntu discussion please
[12:50] <Capprentice> sure :)
[12:50] <ikonia> thanks
[12:56] <Capprentice> Oh man ! no one asking questions today. How borring ! I though I would spend some time watching peoples asking questions....Leaving now..
[12:56] <Aut0Exec> hi
[12:56] <Aut0Exec> anyone here?
[12:56] <Capprentice> Oh hello !?
[12:56] <Capprentice> yes
[12:56] <Aut0Exec> :)
[12:57] <Capprentice> Im
[12:57] <Aut0Exec> i have a quick and easy question
[12:57] <Capprentice> yes ! must not be joke.
[12:57] <Capprentice> go on :P
[12:57] <Aut0Exec> if i install ubuntu "inside of windows" how much of a performance difference is there?
[12:57] <blazemore> Aut0Exec: Do you mean with Wubi?
[12:57] <Aut0Exec> vs installing from stratch
[12:57] <Aut0Exec> yeah
[12:57] <Aut0Exec> with wubi
[12:57] <ikonia> Aut0Exec: shouldn't notice anything
[12:57] <Aut0Exec> hmmm
[12:57] <Capprentice> ?? with Wubi yes.
[12:57] <blazemore> Aut0Exec: I noticed the difference
[12:58] <ikonia> Aut0Exec: file system differences are the only real differences, the rest should be native
[12:58] <blazemore> Aut0Exec: I always recommend a real installation, wubi causes more problems than it solved
[12:58] <Capprentice> Me too. I think the allowable disk size is 30 GB
[12:58] <Capprentice> thats a limit
[12:58] <Aut0Exec> ok
[12:59] <k1l_> Aut0Exec: dont use wubi. wubi is a performance loss since its inside a container on windows and not native
[12:59] <Capprentice> Install along side windows. Use windows bootloader. Use EasyBCD to create entries for ubuntu.
[12:59] <Capprentice> or may be GRUB.
[12:59] <Capprentice>  :P
[13:01] <ShapeShifter499> philinux, about that flash post your shared.... W.I.N.E. can always run that flash player within a windows firefox. Problem solved
[13:01] <ikonia> depending on wine is a bad idea
[13:01] <ShapeShifter499> *you shared
[13:01] <ShapeShifter499> ikonia, why?
[13:01] <OWDH> Hozsanna
[13:01] <Capprentice> Any one used Shockwave player on Wine ? many of the flash games runs on Shockwave player. Have anyone tested wine for that ? Or Unity web player ?
[13:01] <ikonia> ShapeShifter499: because it's a moving target
[13:01] <Aut0Exec> k1l_: thanks for that... thats kinda what i thought
[13:02] <ikonia> OWDH: please stop
[13:02] <OWDH> Right
[13:02] <ShapeShifter499> ikonia, how is it a moving target?
[13:03] <ikonia> ShapeShifter499: support for components varies from week to week,something that works this week, may fail next week, or require an update to a version that's not available/compatible with the current OS
[13:03] <ikonia> hence "moving target" and hence "dependable" solution
[13:03] <Capprentice> Anyone knows if Unity beta is launahced for Ubuntu or not ?
[13:03] <ikonia> Capprentice: unity beta ?
[13:04] <Capprentice> Unity Web Player. The dev team was proposing to launch the Unity Gaming platform for Linux distros too. SO I thought may be it is available now ...
[13:04] <ikonia> Capprentice: where is the info on this ?
[13:05] <Capprentice> On youtube :P
[13:05] <Capprentice> I can fetch you the link if you want.
[13:05] <ikonia> Capprentice: where ? I'm not aware of the unity development team making such announcements on youtube
[13:06] <Capprentice> Ok wait. I have watched that video 3-4 months ago.
[13:06] <Capprentice> Let me check If i find that.
[13:06] <Capprentice> now.
[13:06] <wasanzy> my home directory has become Read-Only file system, even when I tried changing it like chmod -R 777 /home/name am getting permission denied
[13:06] <TJ-> Capprentice: Yes; is this what you're wanting? http://unity3d.com/unity/multiplatform/
[13:06] <wasanzy> what could be wrong?
[13:06] <ikonia> wasanzy: normally a failure / corruption in the file system drops it into read-only mode
[13:07] <TJ-> wasanzy: Likely that the file-system itself has been mounted read-only due to a problem. Check "mount | grep home"
[13:07] <wasanzy> TJ:, no output
[13:08] <wasanzy> ikonia: then wat can I do?
[13:08] <TJ-> wasanzy: OK, so /home is in the rootfs then. So "mount | grep ' / '  "
[13:08] <Capprentice> TJ- Yep that is the thing :D
[13:08] <ikonia> wasanzy: chances are if you reboot, it will do an fsck on reboot (take some time) and fix itself
[13:08] <ikonia> wasanzy: or you could manually do it from a livecd
[13:09] <Capprentice> ikonia: http://unity3d.com/unity/multiplatform/desktop
[13:09] <wasanzy> is a remote ubuntu server so I don't have physicall access
[13:09] <felon> can anyone help me get my display working right.  i cant choose any 16:9 resolution, with kernel drivers on 12.04 my options are only 4:3 .....ive tried every  propritory driver there is and yes the beta 304. nvidia driver gave me the best options out all the drivers, and even tho i had 16:9 in the resolution list with nvidia beta 304. driver, it wouldnt let me do it ...
[13:09] <Capprentice> @ TJ- Where is the preview download link ?
[13:09] <ikonia> Capprentice: ah, so not ubuntu's unity desktop,
[13:09] <wasanzy> /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,errors=remount-ro)
[13:10] <ikonia> wasanzy: ok, so you have two choices
[13:10] <Capprentice> ikonia: no :)
[13:10] <ikonia> wasanzy: 1.) reboot and see if it autofsck's / fixes it
[13:10] <ikonia> wasanzy: 2.) talk to remote hands and ask them to boot it from a remote media
[13:10] <wasanzy> ikonia: ok
[13:10] <wasanzy> thank you all
[13:10] <OWDH> not at all bro
[13:11] <felon> aint there more more drivers i can pick from ?
[13:11] <TJ-> Capprentice: "v4.2: Linux: Implement headless player; this will not require Xlib (requires Unity Pro)." see "Linux, Mac, and Mecanim" at http://blogs.unity3d.com/2013/07/22/unity-4-2-has-arrived/
[13:13] <Guest67532> why doesnt firefox use ubuntu's default notification system?
[13:14] <Guest10124> hey guys i want ask how i upgrade ubuntu 12.4 to 13.4  with next windows
[13:14] <Guest10124> please help me ful
[13:14] <Guest67532> why doesnt firefox use ubuntu's default notification system?
[13:14] <TJ-> Capprentice: I think this answers your question with a "No".  "We don’t currently have any plans to ship a web player for Linux, but we encourage you to export your game to Native Client, which Linux users can take full advantage of."   http://blogs.unity3d.com/2012/11/22/linux-publishing-in-unity-4-0/
[13:15] <santanu> hi there!
[13:15] <ActionPa1snip> Guest67532: you will need to upgrade to 12.10 first
[13:15] <santanu> having loads of issues with Intel e1000e network card since morning
[13:16] <TJ-> santanu: Any clues in the kern.log ?
[13:16] <Guest10124> thank you Guest67532 i do this know
[13:16] <santanu> I'm on 12.04
[13:16] <OWDH> Great
[13:16] <OWDH> I'm on 10.04
[13:17] <OWDH> LTS
[13:17] <kari> im back again :D i have tried acpi=off, "acpi=force apm=power_off" and my motherboard bios that acpi is disabled, because if i put it on my computer starts to be very slow and mouse pointer is moving only every second or so.
[13:17] <santanu> it's listed by lspci and lshw list the card
[13:17] <MonkeyDust> OWDH  desktop or server?
[13:17] <OWDH> Desktop and server
[13:17] <DJones> OWDH: Be aware that 10.04 desktop is no longer supported
[13:17] <santanu> I'm on 12.04 server
[13:18] <OWDH> But the hardware old... 2GB RAM and 3GHz P4 CPU
[13:18] <Guest10124> what you problem
[13:18] <Capprentice> TJ- Thats bad.
[13:19] <Guest10124> give me you qeus
[13:19] <santanu> "ifup eth0" repprtes: "ERROR while getting interface flags: NO such device"
[13:19] <DJones> OWDH: I have 12.04 running on weaker hardware than that
[13:19] <kari> restart works perfectly tho :)
[13:19] <OWDH> Tx DJones bro
[13:19] <ActionPa1snip> OWDH: lucid is EOL on desktop
[13:20] <neko> hi
[13:20] <OWDH> ola neko bro
[13:20] <OWDH> Shalom!
[13:20] <TJ-> OWDH: I'm running 13.04 on the same hardware as a gateway router and file-server with 10 NICs, 2x RAID 1 arrays, and 2x xDSL modems - it idles most of the time. I'm just upgrading it to 13.10 so I can install apache 2.4 with HTTPS PFC (perfect forward secrecy)
[13:20] <neko> i have a folder with thousand of millions of files that i need to delete
[13:21] <neko> no success with either rm *
[13:21] <neko> nor find -delete
[13:21] <neko> someone have an idea ?
[13:21] <TJ-> neko: Literally, millions? what file-system is it on?
[13:21] <kari> ok i try to reboot again...
[13:21] <neko> i cannot now how much files are in it
[13:21] <Guest10124> I have 12.04 running on weaker hardware than that  My reply
[13:22] <neko> ls die because it have not enough ram
[13:22] <Guest10124> Vanilla] Ubuntu 12.04 LTS is a good version of Ubuntu, but it needs a lot of horsepower, that is not available in aging computers.
[13:22] <Guest10124> But the computer would do well with 12.04 and a lighter desktop environment. I suggest that you download the iso files and test them from a CD or USB drive (boot a live session without installing it). And when you see how it works, decide what to install.
[13:22] <Guest10124> Xubuntu with the light desktop environment XFCE
[13:22] <Guest10124> Lubuntu with the ultra-light desktop environment LXDE
[13:22] <FloodBot1> Guest10124: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:22] <santanu> neko: ls | wc -l
[13:22] <neko> it die
[13:22] <neko> i suppose it is ext3 filesystem
[13:23] <jan1337z> Question: I have a (given) ubuntu Image on VirtualBox that is installed with GUI … I assume that displaying the GUI in takes resources. How can I disable the GUI so that is only runs in terminal mode so that it takes less resources?
[13:23] <TJ-> santanu: That's not a good idea! That'll block the f/s whilst it iterates if all the files are in the top directory
[13:23] <neko> TJ- : indeed
[13:23] <neko> never got in such a situation
[13:24] <TJ-> neko: Is it a temporary directory, or the remains of an installation of some specific application?
[13:24] <santanu> TJ: that's true!
[13:24] <neko> it is a sessions folder from php
[13:24] <neko> that goes crazy
[13:24] <neko> keeping on create sessions files for months
[13:25] <soman1> Xubuntu 12.04 Elements of the panel (time, language and fast launch) are not displayed. Is any ways to fix it?
[13:25] <TJ-> neko: I suspect what you need to do is remount the file-system with "data=writeback" option *only whilst deleting* to prevent the use of the journal log. Make sure the PC is protected by a UPS or battery first though, since if power goes out it could make a serious mess of the file-system.
[13:26] <neko> wow  it is in fact a virtualized server
[13:26] <neko> i have no physical access to it
[13:26] <TJ-> neko: OK, read up on "data-writeback" then so you understand it
[13:26] <TJ-> neko: If it is a VPS then I'd guess it is in a UPS-protected data centre
[13:27] <neko> ok
[13:27] <santanu> does anyone here with some network-configuration knowledge?
[13:28] <santanu> I can't bring up my eth0 (or eth1)
[13:28] <TJ-> neko: The slowness is caused by every deleting being written to the file-system journal log rather than direct changes to the directory inode, and then having to be committed separately.
[13:28] <santanu> it's an Intel e10003 on-board card
[13:28] <kari> can someone point out for me some manual. i can try to figure this out also. i have tryed to google, but i can't find good solution. i can hear that HDD shutdowns, but still its halted
[13:29] <neko> TJ- : in fact my problem is not that it is slow, it is that commands to delete files keep on dying
[13:29] <santanu> *intel e1000e
[13:29] <kari> other words, when i press shutdown it hangs.
[13:29] <neko> TJ- : well find . -delete seems to not dying right now
[13:30] <TJ-> santanu: what does this show? "lspci -nn | egrep -i 'Ethernet'  "
[13:30] <neko> will wait, if i have not success with this will try to mount it without the data-writeback
[13:31] <neko> TJ- : thanks for the informations
[13:31] <GothPaw> so I have a load to black screen issue that I tried "nomodeset" however it did not work but it did lead me to an error -->  xinit: unable to connect to X server: Resource temporarily unavailable. Please note that this did  not happen before installing kubuntu-desktop for my wife sine she doesn't like Unity (13.04). Any suggestions?
[13:32] <santanu> TJ: 00:19:0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:153b] (rev 04)
[13:32] <TJ-> neko: Run the command from 'screen'. Whilst it is running, press Ctrl+A then C to create a new shell, and in that shell run "top" and see if the 'find' process is busy. To switch back to the 'find' window press Ctrl+A then N. After the commands have stopped, do Ctrl+A then \  to exit the screen sessions.
[13:33] <OWDH> Hosanna for you
[13:34] <neko> TJ- : it seems to work as "df" show that files are into deleting
[13:34] <TJ-> neko: Go make a cup of coffee come back later :D
[13:34] <santanu> TJ- : 00:19:0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:153b] (rev 04)
[13:35] <TJ-> neko: I'm running a ddrescue of a 500GiB drive and so far it's taken 4 days.... I've had lots of coffee so far waiting for it :)
[13:35] <TJ-> santanu: OK, so that's the e1000e driver.
[13:35] <neko> TJ- : :) i hope it will not need as much time
[13:35] <neko> TJ- : i try to stop coffee
[13:35] <TJ-> santanu: You've confirmed the driver has loaded correctly by inspecting dmseg/kern.log ?
[13:35] <Capprentice> TJ- 4 days non stop ?!
[13:35] <TJ-> neko: I was doing tea but got fed up!
[13:37] <mohitS> Hey guys, does anybody know what's the command (key combination) assigned to the power key in Ubuntu(linux).i.e. what happens in background when we press powerkey on our desktop/laptop having linux installed?
[13:37] <TJ-> Capprentice: Yes... got it sat next to me on a specially configured 'caddy' machine I use for this stuff; it's got about 25GiB of damaged sectors through physical shock. So far its recovered 450GiB
[13:37] <santanu> TJ- : "dmesg| grep e1000" reports it does
[13:37] <TJ-> santanu: OK, so your issue with the interfaces not coming up is more likely down to what they are physically connected to possibly?
[13:38] <TJ-> santanu: Have you verified the ethernet cables are OK, that the hosts/switches on the other end are fine? When a cable is plugged in does the kern.log show the interface link being detected?
[13:38] <mustmodify_> I'm trying to grep through Rails logs. Is there a way I can say " and stop and the first blank line" instead of using -A7 etc which will sometimes include the next log entry and sometimes not include the entire current entry?
[13:39] <mustmodify_> with grep
[13:39] <mustmodify_> sorry I must have edited that out :)
[13:39] <TJ-> santanu: You should see something like "e1000: eth6 NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: RX/TX"
[13:39] <santanu> TJ- : I think I sould mention: I swaped the HDD from a machine with a realtek card on it
[13:39] <TJ-> santanu: OK, I think I know your issue! Listen closely :)
[13:40] <mohitS> anyone guys?
[13:40] <OWDH> mohits bro ola
[13:40] <mohitS> ola OWDH
[13:41] <TJ-> santanu: To ensure NIC interfaces get the same name, udev keeps a note of the first time an  NIC is seen and associated a name to its MAC address. It keeps that info in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules. My bet is that the Intel interfaces are there but with higher numbers. If you want to get the original interface numbers you'll need to either edit that file, or delete the custom lines in it, and let udev rediscover the new interfaces and assign numbers f
[13:41] <TJ-> rom 0 again
[13:41] <mohitS> I was having a small query related to the commands assingned to the buttons in linux system
[13:41] <santanu> TJ- : just FYI..... I traied editing 70-persistent-net.rules with the new MAC address, that didn;t work at all
[13:41] <mohitS> what is the command (key combination) assigned to the powerbutton on linux machine. I'm trying to automate some small things using it
[13:42] <OWDH> right
[13:42] <mohitS> appreciate any help
[13:42] <blazemore> the power button as in... the button that turns on/off the PC, mohitS ?
[13:42] <mohitS> yes
[13:42] <TJ-> santanu: So delete/comment out all the existing rules in there and try again. You should be able to unload the e1000e module, restart udev, and reload e1000e
[13:42] <blazemore> That button is special t's not like a keyboard button
[13:42] <santanu> TJ- : If I reboot the machine with 70-persistent-net.rules removed, it doesn't cretae the file autometically
[13:42] <blazemore> It sends some sort of ACPI command
[13:42] <mohitS> on pressing which you get the options (reboot/shutodn/restart/suspend/cancel)
[13:43] <mohitS> @blazemore In any way can we simulate the same things using terminal
[13:43] <TJ-> santanu: You should only need to comment out/delete the custom rules. I would have thought though that udev just recreates that file if it is missing.
[13:43] <blazemore> mohitS: yes, the "reboot" and "shutdown" commands
[13:43] <TJ-> santanu: When you run "ifconfig | grep eth" what do you get?
[13:44] <santanu> TJ- : let me try again
[13:44] <mohitS> @blazemore: those command will actually take respective  action reboot/shutdown
[13:44] <blazemore> mohitS: Yes that's right
[13:44] <mohitS> what I want is just send the power button interrupt, no
[13:44] <mohitS> action, as pressing power button just the popup comes
[13:44] <mohitS> nothing happens until we select the options...
[13:45] <blazemore> oh that's kind of technical mohitS ... start here maybe http://linuxgazette.net/106/pramode.html
[13:45] <Capprentice> mohitS, On my Ubuntu machine it just shutsdown the pc without any warning or anything :P
[13:45] <mohitS> @blazemore: thnx dude, will check it out surely
[13:45] <blazemore> mohitS: I guess you could start weith "tail -F /proc/acpi/event" and press the button
[13:46] <mohitS> @Capprentice: that may be because of setting that you have opted
[13:46] <TJ-> santanu: you ought to see something like this in dmesg/kern.log when the module loads: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5977342/
[13:47] <mohitS> not able to read the /proc/acpi/event that might be a service, running continuously
[13:47] <meowsus> I've noticed that, on occasion, Unity will just freeze after being opened making my desktop unusable. When I switch over to TTY1 and run `top` I see Compiz is blasting forward with 100% of my CPU. I'm wondering what is happening, but there are no logs associated with compiz that I can find. Can anyone help me figure out how to debug something like this, seemingly without logfiles?
[13:47] <kari> hello again. i have new information :). if i press main switch to power off it works (i think even too fast almost like "init 0") but i choose power off button from menu it will hang. Does that help anybody to solve this?
[13:48] <santanu> TJ- : I don't see that in my dmesg at all
[13:48] <santanu> TJ- : what am I missing?
[13:48] <ActionPa1snip> kari: try:  sudo shutdown -h now    to shutdown
[13:49] <TJ-> santanu: Well, your module is e1000e not e1000 so you might need to adjust the regular expression
[13:49] <philinux> meowsus: look in the xorg log files in your home
[13:49] <mohitS> @kari: init 0, shutdown -h now, shutdown -h 0, poweroff are almost used for same purpose, with some diff of what steps they take to poweroff your sys
[13:49] <meowsus> philinux: Word, checking...
[13:49] <kari> ActionPa1snip, i tried that already and it hangs. /etc/default/halt has HALT=poweroff line...
[13:50] <santanu> TJ- : I simply tried "dmesg | grep -i e1000" - that should catch the rest
[13:50] <philinux> meowsus: I meant xsession errors soz
[13:51] <TJ-> santanu: Well then I'd read dmesg/kern.log line-by-line to ensure the driver is loading!
[13:51] <santanu> TJ- :  I also get "missing $INTERFACE" if I try: "/lib/udev/write_net_rules all_interfaces"
[13:51] <kari> ActionPa1snip,  only way to shutdown computer is to press now straight that power switch. it doesn't even wait that splash screen :D its fast!!
[13:51] <TJ-> santanu: You set INTERFACE before calling it I assume?
[13:51] <kari> ActionPa1snip, and i think it will harm my hdd if it does it like that
[13:51] <ActionPa1snip> kari: how? its a graceful shutdown...
[13:52] <santanu> TJ- : what about "lsmod"? It lists the module there
[13:52] <TJ-> santanu: Does it report e1000e ?
[13:52] <kanyl> What's a good place to put stuff that shared between users? Putting something in my home and chmodding it seems ugly, is there a standard path where shared files usually go?
[13:52] <kari> ActionPa1snip,  i don't know. i have acpi disabled from bios (because it doesn't work so well my computer starts to lag with it)
[13:52] <meowsus> philinux: Sweet, thanks man. I'm seeing some stuff in here, for sure!
[13:53] <mohitS> @kari init 0 is the exactly the same, the way you select shutdown from the gear icon
[13:53] <TJ-> santanu: Thing is, the module will report what it is doing and that should be in the system logs. If it isn't then either the syslog daemon is faulty or else the module is stuck.
[13:53] <santanu> TJ- : I did "modprobe e1000e" first
[13:53] <kari> mohitS,  ok...hmmm
[13:53] <philinux> meowsus: I also check /var/log/xorg.0/
[13:54] <philinux> meowsus: I also check /var/log/xorg.0.log
[13:54] <kari> mohitS, well can we look to some log file or? to figure this out...i don't like to guess :)
[13:54] <DanDuncombe> I ran the command:    sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade     and now the mouse won't move. I am using the latest Kubuntu. Help?
[13:55] <mohitS> @kari you can have a look at kernel logs in /var/log/kern.log
[13:55] <TJ-> santanu: Which version of Ubuntu is this on? It may be the module doesn't have an alias for your device
[13:55] <OxONexus> t
[13:55] <santanu> TJ- : 12.04
[13:56] <mustmodify_> I have grepped a log for a username. Now I want to say "now get rid of \n\nProcessing and all lines that follow it up to but excluding \n---" ... any thoughts?
[13:56] <TJ-> santanu: Hmmm, this might be the issue. Try this: "sudo lspci -nnvv -d 8086:153b" and tell us what the kernel driver lines show
[13:56] <mohitS> there you can check where your system is getting problem, or just enable kernel logs by doing echo 10 > /proc/sys/kernel/printk
[13:56] <TJ-> santanu: Then check if the kernel module has the alias by doing "modinfo e1000e | grep -i 153B"
[13:58] <kari> mohitS, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5977383/
[13:58] <kari> ActionPa1snip,  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5977383/
[13:59] <TJ-> santanu: On 12.04 you can install a backported (newer) kernel to get the hardware driver support you need without a full release upgrade. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Release/Rolling
[14:00] <santanu> TJ- : "modinfo e1000e | grep -i 153B" doesn't return anything at all. "modinfo e1000e" does a lot though
[14:00] <kari> 12 13:57:52 ubuntu kernel: [    0.000000] ACPI Error: A valid RSDP was not found (20110623/tbxfroot-219)
[14:01] <TJ-> santanu: If you get nothing from the grep then that answers your issue. The 12.04 kernel doesn't have support for the hardware in the e1000e driver. So you need to install a more recent kernel. See that link I just posted for how to go about that
[14:02] <TJ-> santanu: If the OS has some other form of networking you can do a simple "sudo apt-get install linux-current-$FLAVOUR"; otherwise, you'll need to manually download the correct .deb packages from the archive using a networked PC and copy them over using a USB stick and then use "sudo dpkg -i ..." to install them
[14:06] <kari> ActionPa1snip,  ok boys i will settle for main power switch. Its enough for me :) thank you for helping
[14:07] <santanu> TJ- : do you have the url for the download nandy?
[14:08] <santanu> TJ- : *handy, I mean
[14:09] <jnhghy> is there a way to count all the words from all the files in a directory that has subdirectories? the command should be recursively. is there such a command?
[14:10] <blazemore> jnhghy: "find directory -type f | xargs wc | awk '{total = total + $1}END{print total}'
[14:11] <blazemore> jnhghy: Ignore the first quotation mark there
[14:12] <ActionPa1snip> blazemore: nice
[14:13] <TJ-> santanu: This script will dig out the current package names used by the virtual package for generic kernel.  $ apt-cache show linux-current-generic | awk '$1~/Depends/{gsub(/,/, "", $2); printf "%s\n%s\n", $2, $3}' | while read pkg; do apt-cache show $pkg | egrep '^Depends'; done
[14:15] <jnhghy> blazemore: worked like a charm, thank you
[14:16] <TJ-> santanu: You can get the packages manually from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/
[14:16] <blazemore> ActionPa1snip: Thanks :)
[14:17] <kanyl> What's a good place for a shared directory? Is /var ok? should I create it in the root instead?
[14:17] <kanyl> (Shared between local users)
[14:17] <blazemore> kanyl: Up to you but I use /var
[14:17] <blazemore> kanyl: eg "/var/remote", "/var/music" etc
[14:18] <kanyl> ok
[14:18] <TJ-> kanyl: I use /home/all/
[14:18] <Aniruddha_Daichi> Hello everyone, Aniruddha_Daichihere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[14:19] <TJ-> kanyl: I've a group "users" which all user accounts are in, and /home/all is owned by root:users with u+rwx,g+rwx,o+rx
[14:19] <OerHeks> Aniruddha_Daichi, do not DDoS yourself, as it is not supported here.
[14:19] <detch_> i have  a bad internet connection . i installed lamp on my laptop . i will install ubuntu 13.04 could i copy lamp folders on cd and copy it instead of downloading it again ?
[14:19] <santanu> TJ- : If I run the script, I get "E: No package found" as the first line
[14:19] <kanyl> TJ-: thanks
[14:20] <TJ-> santanu: OK, sounds like the apt cache is out of date; I'll pastebin you the result from a 12.04 here
[14:20] <santanu> TJ- : and "Depends: linux-headers-3.8.0-27-generic" as 2nd line
[14:20] <TJ-> santanu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5977470/
[14:20] <John___> Hello?
[14:21] <santanu> TJ- : I'm running 3.2.0-51 at the moment
[14:21] <Dozy> John___:  hello?
[14:21] <John___> I need some help, I just used Wubi to install Ubuntu 12.04
[14:21] <TJ-> santanu: So you'll need 3.8 to get the support you want. I checked - it has it
[14:21] <Dozy> whats the issue John___?
[14:21] <John___> (on an external drive, with my main OS on an internal)
[14:21] <John___> And when it boots
[14:22] <John___> It goes to GNU Grub version 1.99-21ubuntu3.9
[14:22] <santanu> TJ- : noe I get the same output as ur; I had a typo in my first try
[14:22] <John___> And displays grub>
[14:22] <TJ-> santanu: :)
[14:22] <John___> and some other text
[14:22] <santanu> TJ- : *now
[14:22] <Dozy> you installed ubuntu onto an externel hard drive with wubi?
[14:22] <John___> Yes
[14:22] <TJ-> santanu: I think that'll sort out your issue, let me know if it doesn't
[14:23] <Dozy> but from my understanding of wubi it runs ubuntu as a program
[14:23] <John___> Oh it does?
[14:23] <John___> It dual boots it
[14:23] <TJ-> santanu: Now, I have to rebuild the LVMs on a 500GiB drive that ddrescue has just recovered 450GiB of. I could be some time!
[14:23] <John___> I thought anyway
[14:23] <John___> Ill boot to my normal OS now I guess and see if I can find it... (im running Windows XP)
[14:23] <Dozy> ok
[14:24] <John___> It does come up with a bootloader though...;
[14:24] <John___> Ubuntu or Windows XP Professional
[14:24] <santanu> TJ- : Thanks for yout help. now I need to find out an USB stick
[14:24] <TJ-> santanu: Or CD
[14:24] <Dozy> John___:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[14:25] <Dozy> what happens when you go onto wubi?
[14:25] <Dozy> onto Ubuntu*
[14:26] <John___> Throws me to Grub
[14:26] <John___> Also this was my first Linux install ever
[14:26] <John___> So im a noob xD
[14:27] <Dozy> what does the GRUB tell you?
[14:27] <detch_>  i have  a bad internet connection . i installed lamp on my laptop . i will install ubuntu 13.04 could i copy lamp folders on cd and copy it instead of downloading it again ?
[14:28] <John___> It just says
[14:28] <John___> Grub 1.99
[14:28] <John___> This is a BASH text prompt thing
[14:28] <Dozy> thats all?
[14:28] <John___> and grub>
[14:28] <Dozy> ohhh
[14:28] <Dozy> so you get   Grub>_
[14:28] <John___> yes
[14:28] <Dozy> and you can type
[14:29] <John___> Yes!
[14:30] <John___> So did I scew something up?
[14:31] <Dozy> nah John___ thats not your fault
[14:31] <Dozy> ok did you get the 64bit or the 32bit?
[14:32] <John___> 32
[14:32] <psychofart> i am not trying to turn you away from God
[14:33] <John___> So is there any quickfix?
[14:33] <Dozy> trying to figure out what kernel version came with that ubuntu
[14:33] <Dozy> I know the quick fix but idk what kernel is pre packed into ubuntu 12.04 32bit
[14:34] <John___> ah
[14:34] <John___> LOL
[14:34] <John___> my external hard drive wasnt plugged in
[14:34] <John___> lemme try it now
[14:34] <Dozy> lmao!
[14:35] <Dozy> well John___?
[14:35] <John___> shutting down xp as we speak
[14:35] <Dozy> =o
[14:35] <John___> alright rebooting
[14:35] <Dozy> I think you should move from xp to ubuntu :3
[14:35] <John___> I plan on it :3
[14:36] <John___> Especially since steam is forUbuntu now
[14:36] <John___> And I <3 steam
[14:36] <Dozy>  ^_^
[14:36] <John___> alright im in the windows boot chooser
[14:36] <John___> D:
[14:36] <John___> No luck :(
[14:37] <John___> hmm
[14:37] <John___> is it a problem that my External is formatted to NTFS?
[14:37] <John___> All my drives are NTFS except for my USB
[14:38] <John___> Theese are my disks: (memdisk) (hd0) (hd0,msdos1)(hd1)
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> John___  don't hit the enter key too often, it's getting a headache
[14:38] <Dozy> hemm..
[14:39] <Dozy> ok you are in grup now right John___?
[14:39] <John___> yes
[14:39] <borlax> Domestic abuse of the enter key. lol
[14:39] <Dozy> ok type
[14:39] <Dozy> linux /boot/vmlinuz-
[14:39] <Dozy> then type 3 and hit tab
[14:40] <Dozy> does the tab add more infomation?
[14:40] <John___> es
[14:40] <Dozy> so what came up?
[14:40] <John___> it added a / and wubildr.exe
[14:40] <John___> *.cfg
[14:41] <Dozy> thats not what i'm looking for
[14:41] <John___> shall I hit enter?
[14:41] <Dozy> no
[14:41] <John___> KK
[14:41] <Dozy> change the 3 to 3.
[14:41] <Dozy> and then hit tab
[14:41] <Dozy> did it add more?
[14:41] <John___> the 3 to 3?
[14:41] <Dozy> the 3 to 3.
[14:41] <Dozy> see the .
[14:41] <Dozy> the ..
[14:42] <John___> ah
[14:42] <Dozy> yep
[14:42] <Dozy> add a 3 .
[14:42] <FloodBot1> Dozy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:42] <Dozy> 3.*
[14:42] <John___> same thing still
[14:42] <Dozy> floodbots ready to kill me at this stage lol
[14:42] <John___> lol
[14:43] <Dozy> ok type out whats after grub>
[14:43] <John___> linux /boot/vmlinuz- 3,/wubildr.cfg
[14:43] <John___> replace the comma with punctation
[14:43] <John___> that was mistypo
[14:44] <John___> and when i hit enter it says file not found
[14:44] <Dozy> hemm..
[14:45] <John___> also
[14:45] <John___> it appears its not picking up my external drive
[14:45] <Dozy> ok we will go about this another way
[14:45] <John___> it says i have memdisk, hd1 hd1msdos and hd2 (my flash drive)
[14:46] <aFeijo> hey folks, I need to create an user named "adm", but system doesnt let me :) "useradd: group adm exists"
[14:46] <Dozy> John___: is hd2 your external hdd?
[14:47] <soy_el_pulpo> aFeijo: you need to assign it a different group
[14:47] <blazemore> aFeijo: "useradd" also attempts to create a group with the same name as the user, but in ths case that group already exists
[14:47] <John___> .no its my flash drive
[14:47] <soy_el_pulpo> aFeijo: in "adduser" if no group is specified, will create a group with the same name
[14:47] <Dozy> what one is the external
[14:47] <John___> because when i take it out it disappears
[14:47] <aFeijo> ah, worked with extra param, -g users
[14:47] <John___> IDK
[14:47] <aFeijo> thanks guys!
[14:47] <John___> both hd1 and hd1msdos1 say unkown file format
[14:48] <Dozy> gonna go for hd1
[14:48] <John___> kk
[14:48] <John___> well
[14:48] <Dozy> does this work for you
[14:48] <Dozy> linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-16-generic  root=/dev/hd1 loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro
[14:48] <Dozy> type that into your grub> prompt
[14:49] <John___> file not found
[14:49] <Dozy> linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-16-generic
[14:49] <Dozy> now?
[14:50] <John___> file not found;
[14:50] <Dozy> linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6 then hit tab
[14:51] <Dozy> does it auto fill?
[14:51] <John___> nothing appears
[14:51] <Dozy> ok then 1 sec
[14:52] <Dozy> linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-12-generic
[14:52] <Dozy> try that
[14:52] <Dozy> sigh this may take a while...
[14:52] <Dozy> Hay Ubuntu IRC what kernel version does ubuntu 12.04 32bit come with??
[14:53] <Dozy> anyone?
[14:53] <ActionPa1snip> !info linux-image-generic
[14:53] <ActionPa1snip> !info linux-image-generic precise
[14:53] <blazemore> How can I do something like "for line in `cat file`; do echo "foo" > $line; done"
[14:53] <blazemore> Will that work?
[14:53] <Dozy> ojkJohn___
[14:53] <John___> well
[14:53] <mohamed> hi
[14:54] <ActionPa1snip> blazemore: I dont think so, what are you wanting to do?
[14:54] <John___> No luck with 3.0.0 generic
[14:54] <ActionPa1snip> blazemore: unless its a list of files to put the word 'foo' into
[14:54] <Dozy> linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.2. hit tab
[14:54] <blazemore> ActionPa1snip: list of strings, want to curl http://foobar/string and save as filename "string"
[14:54] <Dozy> sorry I was stupid and could not find the right kernel version
[14:55] <blazemore> obviously different string for each line
[14:55] <John___> np
[14:55] <Dozy> but the awesome IRC helped
[14:55] <Dozy> so try that last one I gave you
[14:55] <Dozy> linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.2. hit tab
[14:55] <TJ-> blazemore: "sed -i 's/^\(.*\)$/foo/' $FILE"
[14:55] <nicksloan> supervisor looks like it is trying to start itself once it has been installed. The init scripts are really bad, and I've provided my own upstart script for it, so I'd prefer it not start itself until my puppet provisioner has had a chance to add the upstart scripts. Is there a good way to prevent this startup upon installation?
[14:55] <ActionPa1snip> blazemore: so its a fle list to download from the web?
[14:55] <Dozy> I got study to get back to =/
[14:55] <John___> nothing...
[14:55] <John___> :/
[14:55] <Dozy> huh?
[14:56] <Dozy> =/
[14:56] <blazemore> ActionPa1snip: Sort of, I fixed t now
[14:56] <Dozy> I do need to get back to stdy So I don't have time to help you atm
[14:56] <John___> :/
[14:56] <John___> Can anyone else help? D:
[14:56] <blazemore> ActionPa1snip: I remembered that, by default, wget will call each file exactly what I want, so I don't actually have to do anything special at all
[14:56] <Dozy> are type your question and hopefully someone smarter than me can help
[14:57] <xqee> Hello guys, can someone can help me ?
[14:57] <Dozy> John___: website of use to whom ever is gonna help ya
[14:57] <Dozy> http://calamari.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/fixing-a-broken-wubi-grub-after-ubuntu-updates/
[14:57] <ActionPa1snip> John___: boot to liveCD and chroot to installed OS, repoair grub there
[14:57] <OerHeks> John___ your install is through wubi?
[14:57] <cfhowlett> xqee, details ...
[14:57] <John___> Je
[14:57] <John___> *Ye
[14:57] <John___> Also I dont have any CDs around so I cant CD
[14:57] <blazemore> !anyone | xqee
[14:57] <cfhowlett> John___, wubi is for TESTING ubuntu not for long-term installation.  consider dualbooting
[14:58] <John___> I am dualbooting...
[14:58] <John___> When I launch it asks me for Ubuntu or Windows XP
[14:58] <John___> And this is for school and it starts tomorrow so I need it ASAP
[14:58] <xqee> when imgur bash script give me url of pic i want copy that url to text file
[14:58] <cfhowlett> John___, wubi is not dual booting.  but suit yourself.
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> John___  wubi is only a pseudo-installatuion inside windows
[14:58] <John___> oh
[14:58] <OerHeks> John___, you started with"<John___> I need some help, I just used Wubi to install Ubuntu 12.04"  so that is not real dualboot.
[14:59] <John___> how to I access it then?
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> John___  if you would erase windows, ubuntu would be gone too -- with a normal installation, ubuntu stays if you delete windows
[15:00] <xqee> how to copy grep output text automaticky to text file ?
[15:01] <somsip> xqee: grep match fromfile > tofile
[15:01] <John___> so how do I access Ubuntu?
[15:01] <g_byers> damm something weird is going on, there is no power to my usb ports until the os boots, any solution, it's happened since I installed grub, any solution, can you boot via usb from grub?
[15:01] <xqee> somsip thanks
[15:01] <blazemore> John___: If I were you I'd unnstall Ubuntu/wubi and do a proper Ubuntu installation
[15:01] <John___> well
[15:02] <John___> im not to good at this tech sutuff
[15:02] <cfhowlett> g_byers, kill wubi.  do a proper dual boot.
[15:02] <John___> id probably mess it up
[15:02] <TJ-> xqee: You can pipe it all using the redirection ">" or use a pipe through tee " grep .... | tee myfile.txt
[15:02] <g_byers> cfhowlett I have
[15:02] <Nick797> Would anyone know how I can make tcpflow run in the background? tcpflow & simply stays in the foreground somehow
[15:02] <g_byers> my machine is windows free
[15:02] <g_byers> >.>
[15:02] <TJ-> g_byers: BIOS, enable Legacy USB support
[15:02] <cfhowlett> John___, all the things that break windows will doubly break wubi.  and if a windows error causes wubi to break, your ubuntu is pretty much hosed ...
[15:02] <wilee-nilee> g_byers, How are you confirming no power at usb, grub would have no relevance
[15:03] <John___> ok but how do I launch WUBI?
[15:03] <John___> to run Linux?
[15:03] <jonascj> I'm having trouble making libvirtd start properly. Should I try to seek help here in #ubuntu or is it a question for #virt?
[15:03] <g_byers> ok, lets get really technical, there is no blinky lights on usb till debian/ ubuntu starts
[15:03] <Nick797> lolol
[15:04] <John___> also when I uninstall Wubi will the bootloader be back to normal?
[15:05] <g_byers> wilee-nilee it seems that there is no power until an os starts
[15:05] <wilee-nilee> g_byers, I can tell I will be of no help to you.
[15:05] <cfhowlett> John___, probably not without repairing the windows bootloader with windows repair tools
[15:06] <John___> well, i meant making it so it would boot straight to XP again
[15:07] <cfhowlett> John___, I understand that.  wubi has written a change to the windows bootloader.  Google around a bit for the cure, but last time I did it, the bootloader didn't reset... which is why you back it up before you wubi.  but you did that, right?
[15:07] <John___> uhm
[15:07] <John___> no
[15:07] <John___> i dont mess around with stuff in system32
[15:07] <John___> ever
[15:07] <cfhowlett> John___, :)
[15:08] <blazemore> John___: Boot into windows, start->run->msconfig->boot
[15:08] <John___> so am I stuck with ubuntu now? xP
[15:08] <John___> ok im there
[15:08] <g_byers> wilee-nilee humm turning off "Fast BIOS mode" seemed to solve it, weird, never had the problem before this :S
[15:08] <blazemore> John___: If you can't boot into Windows, use your Windows install disk to do a repair; this'll reinstall the Windows bootloader
[15:09] <John___> ah
[15:09] <John___> I see the MSCONFIG
[15:09] <John___> Do I just remove C:\wubildr=Ubuntu?
[15:09] <blazemore> Yes or you can just uninstall Ubuntu from add/remove programs
[15:10] <blazemore> Or rearrange the options so Windows is default
[15:10] <blazemore> And if you want to do Ubuntu again, do a real install with real partitioning; it's way less likely to go wrong
[15:10] <John___> OK
[15:11] <blazemore> How many files is it reasonable to have in a single directory with ext4? Something silly like a trillion, or will I run into problems with a couple of thousand?
[15:12] <John___> BTW- is there an IRC for dual bootd?
[15:12] <somsip> blazemore: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4 has all this and more...
[15:13] <blazemore> kingah: like if the display time is O(n^2) I'm going to have a bad time with a billion files
[15:13] <blazemore> somsip: ^
[15:13] <blazemore> kingah: I'm wondering about the performance of things like ls
[15:14] <santanu> hi there! I just upgraded the kernel to 3.8.0-27 and my keyboard/mice not working any more
[15:14] <blazemore> nvm, I've been advised my 14k files will be fine
[15:15] <blazemore> santanu: Does it work when you boot into the older kernel version?
[15:15] <santanu> blazemore : yes, ork in older version and also in grub menu
[15:15] <santanu> blazemore: *work
[15:16] <ActionPa1snip> santanu: hold SHIFT at boot and load the older kernel, is it ok?
[15:16] <santanu> blazemore: yes, I can load the older version and keyboard works
[15:17] <Roshan> Hi i neeed help on wifi WPA thing
[15:17] <santanu> blazemore : just doesn't work when I load 3.8.0-27
[15:17] <Roshan> I configure my mobile broadband thru wvdial
[15:17] <blazemore> Roshan: I just realised, Roshan is (sort of) Nashor backwards
[15:17] <blazemore> Offtopic, but it just changed my entire life
[15:17] <DOEL> I'M SORRY......I FROM  INDONESIA
[15:18] <reisio> is Nashor a thing?
[15:18] <Nick797> hi guys, if I do screen -S myscreen -m -d mycommand It doesnt start a new screen, any ideas?
[15:18] <saiarcot895> Hi, I'm trying to bridge my wlan0 and eth0 so that the device connected to eth0 can access the internet (wlan0 is connected to the internet). How can I do this?
[15:18] <blazemore> reisio: Baron Nashor from league of legends :)
[15:18] <reisio> oh okay
[15:18] <Roshan> Well..
[15:18] <Roshan> Its my real name
[15:18] <Roshan> :)
[15:18] <reisio> Nick797: #screen
[15:18] <Roshan> blazemore
[15:18] <Nick797> ya I can send to that channel
[15:19] <Nick797> can't*
[15:19] <bkfitz> trying to allow my developers to upload code to my apache instance via sftp... questions: I believe Openssh is handling the sftp, how do I change the default directory to /var/www/codetest?
[15:19] <bkfitz> Does it just dump users into their home
[15:19] <xangua> is it just me or firefox 23 no longer shows the ongoing downloads in the download toolbar button¿ didn't happened in the previous version
[15:19] <blazemore> bkfitz: Change their home directory
[15:19] <bkfitz> I could change the ftpwww users home directory to /var/www/codetest but then i have bash config files etc in there
[15:19] <bkfitz> blazemore, :)
[15:19] <blazemore> bkfitz: By default most clients will put stuff in the home directory unless told otherwise
[15:19] <Roshan> i need to share my mobile broadband to android(Nexus 4)
[15:19] <bkfitz> blazemore, so it's safe to have the bash defaults in /var/www
[15:20] <Roshan> mobile broadband configured with wvdial ..
[15:20] <bkfitz> blazemore, or are you suggesting i delete them
[15:20] <AlexZion> saiarcot895: I guess you need to do it on firewall level ...., there is a good tool to easily manage the firewall and share the connection , you get it on repo looking for "firestarter"
[15:20] <blazemore> bkfitz: What client are your devs using to upload?
[15:20] <bkfitz> probably filezilla
[15:20] <santanu> blazemore: any idea why keyboard doesn't work in 3.8.0-27 kernel?
[15:20] <blazemore> santanu: No
[15:20] <bkfitz> blazemore, could just have them change the remote dir i guess
[15:21] <icelite> b/claer
[15:22] <blazemore> bkfitz: Take a look here http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSSH/Cookbook/SFTP#Chrooted_SFTP-only_Accounts
[15:22] <blazemore> bkfitz: Look at "Chrooted SFTP to Shared Directories"
[15:23] <Roshan> blazemore: can u direct me on this topic?
[15:23] <Roshan> blazemore: sharing mobilebrodband, which is configured with wvdial over wifi?
[15:23] <blazemore> Roshan: I don't think you can... do you mean you have mobile broadband on your laptop, and you want to be able to access it on your ANdroid phone?
[15:23] <Inertiatic> hello guys
[15:24] <Roshan> blazemore: i want to share internet to my android phone
[15:24] <blazemore> Roshan: You will need a wireless access point
[15:24] <blazemore> Roshan: if your mobile broadband is USB, you can get ones which have USB ports to share a mobile broadband connection
[15:24] <wilee-nilee> xangua, I see tiny amount text and if clicked the bar showing download here
[15:25] <Inertiatic> i upgraded ubuntu from 12.10 to 13.04, but now google chrome won't start :-/
[15:25] <blazemore> Hi Inertiatic, how did your upgrade go?
[15:25] <blazemore> Oh, not so good then. Have you tried running it from a terminal and seeing if there's an error?
[15:25] <Inertiatic> blazemore: hey, everything's good so far, but chrome won't start
[15:25] <Inertiatic> hmm, i'll try that now
[15:25] <Roshan> balzemore: Em using laptop... but the problem is how to get my wireless card share internet ..
[15:26] <blazemore> Roshan: You can't, you need a wireless access point
[15:26] <blazemore> Roshan: You can buy routers which have USB ports allowing you to share a mobile broadband dongle
[15:26] <Inertiatic> blazemore:  yeah i get this error: /usr/bin/google-chrome: error while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:26] <Roshan> blazemore: oh ..my bad .. i ll wait for sim tomorrow ..the sim will be converted to microsim ..
[15:27] <jamescarr> cloud front having issues?
[15:27] <xangua> wilee-nilee: when a download is ongoing it is supposed to show the download in the icons and the popup, it doesn't to me...i have to open the download window
[15:27] <xangua> what was the comand to start firefox safe mode¿
[15:27] <jamescarr> trying to build out some server images and failing to download the server iso
[15:27] <jamescarr> ==> virtualbox: Error downloading ISO: Get http://ddj9plya1d2mr.cloudfront.net/ubuntu-13.04-server-amd64.iso: lookup ddj9plya1d2mr.cloudfront.net: no such host
[15:27] <jamescarr> Build 'virtualbox' errored: Error downloading ISO: Get http://ddj9plya1d2mr.cloudfront.net/ubuntu-13.04-server-amd64.iso: lookup ddj9plya1d2mr.cloudfront.net: no such host
[15:27] <jamescarr> sorry.
[15:27] <RaceMatters> don't paste shit here
[15:27] <jamescarr> didn't mean to paste multiple lines
[15:27] <Roshan> blazemore: i hope ..but im just satrting to work :)
[15:28] <Inertiatic> blazemore: i found the solution, thanks bro!
[15:28] <blazemore> Inertiatic: sudo apt-get install libudev0:i386
[15:28] <Inertiatic> yeah, thanks :D
[15:28] <blazemore> or sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[15:28] <Roshan> blazemore: thanx for the big help ..
[15:28] <blazemore> Cool good luck
[15:28] <wilee-nilee> xangua, You might turn off the ubuntu tweaks in the addons and see if it changes
[15:28] <jamescarr> yeah, looks like releases.ubuntu.com is having problems: https://gist.github.com/jamescarr/b639723abed2f8f0f4b8
[15:29] <xangua> wilee-nilee: that's the first thing i always disable
[15:29] <wilee-nilee> me to
[15:31] <blazemore> o
[15:33] <blazemore> jamescarr: mirrored for you http://ndc.rory.sh/ubuntu-13.04-server-amd64.iso
[15:33] <RaceMatters> what's the fucking difference between dist-upgrade and upgrade when you have the same motherfucking repository set in sources.list?
[15:34] <xangua> !language | RaceMatters
[15:34] <jamescarr> blazemore: thanks… I just grabbed from the mit mirror
[15:34] <airtonix> so mad
[15:34] <airtonix> RaceMatters: http://davitenio.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/difference-between-apt-get-upgrade-and-apt-get-dist-upgrade/
[15:35] <airtonix> RaceMatters: tl;dr dist-upgrade fills in the gaps with required dependancies
[15:36] <xangua> wilee-nilee: i did disable all related ubuntu addons (acounts, unity, etc) and still doesn't show them...it does still however show the 'download finished' popup in the top right corner wich was introduced in firefox 22 I believe and can't find a way to reset it to it's original position
[15:37] <jamescarr> blazemore: how fast is that mirror you posted?
[15:37] <blazemore> jamescarr: Faster than you
[15:37] <jamescarr> blazemore: haha :)
[15:37] <blazemore> I guarentee it
[15:37] <blazemore> gigabit
[15:37] <jamescarr> just curious. I started downing from MIT before yo posted it, currently at 30%
[15:37] <blazemore> Both me and MIT will max out your connections so stick with MITs
[15:38] <blazemore> I'll delete that iso now anyway I don't plan to run a public Ubuntu mirror
[15:39] <wilee-nilee> xangua, I'm not sure of any specific fix other than a new user, or full reset and or a full purge and reload.
[15:39] <OerHeks> xangua, " firefox -safe-mode "  and try reset or safe mode
[15:42] <counterglitch> hey everyone I'm having a problem with Steam on raring. Installed from steampowered.com and launched, updated. The initial screen appears where it asks me to login or create an account, but I can't click anything
[15:42] <napsc> So, I've never messed with my the default log rotation scheme.  I would like to change my syslog rotation to weekly and retain 8 weeks of logs.  After researching, my head is spinning so i wanted to verify with people who might be more familiar with the way logrotate is broken up... I need to change /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog file and change the /var/log/syslog section to weekly rotate 8, correct?
[15:43] <ActionPa1snip> counterglitch: tried running a no compiziting session?
[15:43] <counterglitch> ActionPalsnip: thanks for the tip
[15:43] <ActionPa1snip> counterglitch: I assume you use Unity shell under Compiz + Gnome
[15:43] <ActionPa1snip> !steam
[15:44] <counterglitch> ActionPalsnip: I'm using default session which I assume is Unity with compiz+gnome
[15:44] <ActionPa1snip> counterglitch: aye, try something like xfce4
[15:44] <counterglitch> ActionPalsnip How do I temp. disable compositing?
[15:46] <ActionPa1snip> counterglitch: seems steam is in the repos
[15:46] <ActionPa1snip> !info steam
[15:46] <counterglitch> ActionPalsnip: installing from repos produces same result
[15:46] <ActionPa1snip> counterglitch: install xfce4 package, log off then log in to the XFCE session
[15:47] <counterglitch> ActionPalsnip Thanks I will try xfce!
[15:48] <counterglitch> wow xfce is only 60 megs!
[15:48] <ch4k3r> How can I check my startup programs in commandline?
[15:48] <ActionPa1snip> counterglitch: if its ok in XFCE then compiz is probably not processing clicks right. YOu will also get higher FPS as XFCE uses fewer resources
[15:48] <blazemore> ch4k3r: What Ubuntu version?
[15:48] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: do you  mean the ones in the startup application in Dash?
[15:48] <ch4k3r> 13.04
[15:48] <ch4k3r> How can I check my startup programs in the terminal?
[15:49] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: grep Exec= ~/.config/autostart/*
[15:49] <ch4k3r> ActionPa1snip: how can I add "preload" to startup programs from the terminal?
[15:49] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: if you install preload it will start as needed. You don't need to manualy add it
[15:50] <ch4k3r> Is there a way to make Ubuntu automatically execute a script with sudo on startup?
[15:50] <ch4k3r> from the terminal
[15:50] <ch4k3r> I'd like to make /Desktop/defense.sh execute on startup.
[15:50] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: does the command need the x server to be running?
[15:50] <ch4k3r> no, actionpa1snip
[15:51] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: then run:  gksud ogedit /etc/rc.local and add the command above the 'exit 0' line
[15:51] <ch4k3r> I want this script: /home/chaker/Desktop/defense.sh to execute at startup with sudo.
[15:51] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: you will need to use absolute referencing
[15:51] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: add an ampersand to the end of the line, so it will be:   /home/chaker/Desktop/defense.sh &
[15:51] <Pici> 70
[15:52] <ch4k3r> I just add /home/chaker/Desktop/defense.sh at /etc/rc.local
[15:52] <ch4k3r> and that's it?
[15:53] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: yes, above 'exit 0' and with an ampersand at the end as I showed you
[15:53] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: it will run as root and just before the DM loads
[15:54] <ch4k3r> what is an ampersand?
[15:54] <Pici> ch4k3r: &
[15:54] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: shift + 7
[15:54]  * genii sips and ponders octothorpes
[15:54] <ch4k3r> exit 0 & /home/etc/etc/etc/test.sh
[15:54] <ch4k3r> like that?
[15:54] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: no
[15:55] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: in the file there is the line 'exit 0' that is the LAST line, if you add lines below that they will not get ran
[15:55] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: if you add them above, they wil be ran as root
[15:55] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: you add the ampersand so that they get bckgrounded and do not hang the boot if they go awry
[15:56] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: here is mine as an example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5977779
[15:56] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: mine puts my browser cache in ramdisk
[15:57] <counterglitch> ACtionPalsnip xfce worked. I'm going to look into compositing on steam. Thanks!
[15:57] <ch4k3r> what is the meaning of chown -R
[15:57] <orfg> ?/
[15:57] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: change owner
[15:58] <ch4k3r> and it will run as root?\
[15:58] <ch4k3r> like root/root
[15:58] <ch4k3r> I want it to run as root.
[15:58] <ActionPa1snip> counterglitch: yes, then compiz is causing an issue (no surprises there)
[15:58] <ch4k3r> and my root is password-protected.
[15:58] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: yes, the commands in rc.local run as root
[15:58] <ch4k3r> wait, action
[15:58] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: I saw you state it the last time, hence I advised it
[15:58] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: your root account is disabled
[15:59] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: the account still exists though and still has all its access
[16:00] <someGuest> Hello, I was wondering if someone could help me. I have a question about the LTS Enablement Stack. This sentence concerns me: "These enablement stacks are only intended for use on x86 hardware at this time." Link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[16:00] <counterglitch> ActionPa1snip is there a way to disable compositing for just a single process (like the steam window) or does compositing not work like that
[16:00] <ch4k3r> actionpa1snip, like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5977796/
[16:00] <someGuest> Sorry, accidentally pressed Enter. Anyhow, I'm confused as there are 12.04.2 x64 versions of Ubuntu that ship with the new kernel. So, what does all this mean?
[16:02] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: you don't need the 'chown -R root:root'   bit
[16:02] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: otherwise, yes
[16:02] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: be sure the script is executable
[16:02] <ch4k3r> alright, thank you
[16:02] <ch4k3r> another question
[16:02] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: you do realise the file extension is meaningless in linux
[16:03] <ActionPa1snip> counterglitch: its all windows as far as I am aware
[16:03] <ch4k3r> how can I reinstall my system files if something goes wrong? without deleting my files in /home/
[16:03] <ch4k3r> and /opt/
[16:03] <ActionPa1snip> counterglitch: you could report a bug
[16:03] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: keep a backup
[16:03] <caodepala> hi everyone
[16:03] <ch4k3r> actionpa1snip: there is no option to reinstall system files?
[16:03] <ch4k3r> wow, actionpa1snip, windows is better then
[16:03] <caodepala> i got into trouble with ubuntu i really need some help
[16:03] <wilee-nilee> someGuest, Is this in relation to any ubuntu install if so what release?
[16:03] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: be sure to run: chmod +x /home/chaker/Desktop/defense.sh
[16:03] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: how do you mean 'system files'?
[16:04] <ch4k3r> i'll have to add that to rc.local, actionpa1snip?
[16:04] <ch4k3r> I mean
[16:04] <counterglitch> ok thanks will do!
[16:04] <ch4k3r> do you have any knowledge about ecryptfs, actionpa1snip?
[16:04] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: you only need to run the chmod once to make it executable
[16:04] <ch4k3r> if my ecryptfs gets screwed up, or I can't boot, or my kernel is broken and have no internet connection, how can I fix it?
[16:04] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: none, I think average users using encryptfs is a bad idea
[16:04] <ch4k3r> why?
[16:04] <wilee-nilee> !details > caodepala
[16:04] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: imagine the average old dear wanting to web browse and can no longer boot
[16:05] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: having to advise in a liveCD how to decrypt data
[16:05] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: its less than jolly
[16:05] <ch4k3r> actionpa1snip: how to decrypt data in ecryptfs
[16:05] <ch4k3r> if I have my passphrase.
[16:05] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: there are guides online aplent
[16:05] <ActionPa1snip> a-plenty
[16:05] <ch4k3r> actionpa1snip, where?
[16:05] <sivik_> anyone seen when  you upgrade from xubuntu 12.10 to xubuntu 13.04 that all keyboard shortcut keys are not working even if you click the restore to default under settings-keyboard-application shortcuts
[16:06] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: if you keep an unencrypted USB storage with your data on in a locked safe you will have a secure backup
[16:06] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: search and you wil find them.
[16:06] <caodepala> i turn on my laptop and when i get to the log in panel i put my passord as normal then i get an > unable to launch startxfce4 x session startxfce4 not found falling back to default session
[16:06] <jpds> ActionPa1snip: Until the USB drive dies.
[16:06] <ch4k3r> actionpa1snip, can I use rsync to copy /home/ to my USB?
[16:06] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: once it is decrypted, I'd imagine so.
[16:06] <ActionPa1snip> jpds: then make a new copy as the standing data is still available :)
[16:07] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: can you imagine how hard it is to advise users decrypting stuff when they screw up their OS
[16:08] <ch4k3r> ActionPa1snip: indeed.
[16:08] <ch4k3r> ActionPa1snip: how can I copy /home/ to my USB (without deleting /home/ ofc)
[16:09] <blazemore> ch4k3r: cp -rv /home /path/to/usb
[16:09] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: use nautilus to copy it over, or use rsync (o even grsync)
[16:09] <ch4k3r> which is the most faster way?
[16:09] <Marlenee> i get this error everytime i run any command what mean this error : " Segmentation fault "
[16:09] <caodepala> anyhelp please
[16:10] <felipe__> hi everyone
[16:10] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: speed will depend on drive speed, different software wont ake a drastic amount of differenyce
[16:11] <blazemore> Marlenee: Even after rebooting?
[16:11] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: if you get all the data copied, you can use rsync and it will only copy over new and changed files. Makes it faster
[16:11] <dagerik> machine suddenly rebooted out of nowhere- how can i find the cause?
[16:11] <ch4k3r> actionpa1snip: how can I copy /home/ch4k3r to /media/myusb with rsync? which command?
[16:11] <ch4k3r> dagerik: see dmesg
[16:11] <sivik_> check dmesg dagerik and /var/log/messages
[16:11] <blazemore> ch4k3r: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/09/rsync-command-examples/
[16:12] <blazemore> ch4k3r: That's what I use for when I can't remember rsync
[16:12] <felipe__> i need your help my friends ... i am new user in ubuntu, i have some presentation in microsoft office and i need check this presentations, for thois reason i need download office 2010 in my pc
[16:12] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: use grsync, its a pretty GUI to rsync
[16:12] <blazemore> felipe__: The short answer is, you can't install Microsoft Office on Ubuntu, in a similar way that you can't play a Playstation game on an XBox. Use the included LibreOffice Impress to open your presentation
[16:12] <Marlenee> blazemore : its ssh server i cant reboot
[16:13] <caodepala> when i try to log in to ubuntustudio i get the message  unable to launc startxfce4 x session startxfce4 not found falling back to default session
[16:13] <ch4k3r> actionpa1snip: how can I do it with rsync?
[16:13] <blazemore> Marlenee: you get sengmentation fault when you try to reboot?
[16:13] <ch4k3r> that's the question, parsnip.
[16:13] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: i'm not sure 100%, grsync will give you a GUI and will also show the command ran
[16:13] <blazemore> ch4k3r: rsync -vr /home/ch4k3r /media/myusb
[16:13] <Sivik> test
[16:13] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: try looking online or read the man page
[16:13] <ch4k3r> I came here earlier
[16:14] <ch4k3r> one of your mods said
[16:14] <blazemore> ch4k3r: I ddn't know that, I had to look at the page I literally just sent you. Did you read it?
[16:14] <ch4k3r> rsync -av --progress /home/ch4k3r /media/myusb
[16:14] <ch4k3r> I am still confused which one to use.
[16:14] <blazemore> Either
[16:14] <ch4k3r> I don't want to delete /home/ch4k3r
[16:14] <Marlenee> blazemore : i got this error when i run any comamnd like "ls" "ps"
[16:14] <felipe__> blazemore: but is possible install office in ubuntu
[16:14] <blazemore> ch4k3r: Neither of those will delete that
[16:14] <dagerik> this seems to have caused the sudden reboot. whats going on here? http://www.bpaste.net/show/GoSF4iE3BmbpBBuMz3YF/
[16:14] <blazemore> Marlenee: Can you run "reboot" ?
[16:14] <Sivik> felipe__: you cannot install microsoft office 2010 on ubuntu
[16:15] <Sivik> felipe__: use libreoffice presentation
[16:15] <blazemore> felipe__: It's POSSIBLE but very difficult, and you don't need to. Why do you think you need to?
[16:16] <ch4k3r> how can I check startup-programs with my terminal? (like see which programs/scripts run at startup and how to disable/enable them)
[16:16] <blazemore> ch4k3r: Do you mean ones that start when you log in, or ones that are run before you log in, as the computer starts up?
[16:16] <ch4k3r> blazemore: both.
[16:17] <blazemore> The latter is /etc/rc.local
[16:17] <blazemore> ActionPa1snip knows the former, because he told someone a little while ago
[16:17] <ch4k3r> what is it, actionpa1snip?
[16:18] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r:  grep Exec= ~/.config/autostart/*
[16:18] <felipe__> blazemore:  because i am new in ubuntu, i need detach of windows little by little
[16:18] <blazemore> felipe__: Try using Libreoffice to open your presentation
[16:18] <blazemore> felipe__: Libreoffce Impress is very similar to powerpoint, you won't feel lost
[16:19] <devyani> can anyone help me, i need to know about the release name of ubuntu version 13.04.
[16:19] <blazemore> Raring Ringtail
[16:19] <ch4k3r> parsnip, do I have to run that command in my terminal?
[16:19] <devyani> blazemore, thankyou
[16:19] <ch4k3r> ActionPa1snip, mind changing your nick to ActionParsnip or Parsnip as I am very confused.
[16:19] <blazemore> ch4k3r: That command will show you applications which run on login
[16:20] <ch4k3r> nothing came up, blazemore.
[16:20] <blazemore> ch4k3r: People aren't going to change their nick just to suit you. Just type ac[TAB]
[16:20] <ch4k3r> b0x@b0x:~$ grep Exec= ~/.config/autostart/*
[16:20] <ch4k3r> b0x@b0x~$
[16:20] <Cyrac> Hi,I was wondering. I have VirtualBox version 4.2.16 r86992. Are there any new version of Linux Ubuntu that goes for Virtualbox version 4.2.16 r86992? if so.. where do I download it? I need the iso file
[16:20] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: thats the standard startup items folder
[16:20] <blazemore> OK so you have no autostart items. You know Ubuntu comes with a GUI called "startup applications" which does exactly what you need?
[16:21] <ActionPa1snip> Cyrac: ubuntu is ubuntu, why would there be a specific version?
[16:21] <ch4k3r> blazemore: I customized it a lil bit.
[16:21] <ch4k3r> basically
[16:21] <ch4k3r> I made Ubuntu into ArchUbuntu./
[16:21] <ch4k3r> mixed some stuff
[16:21] <felipe__> blazemore: I am a teacher and some presentations are not the same in libreoffice
[16:21] <Cyrac> cuz the version of ubuntu i downloaded won't work for the virtualbox version i got
[16:21] <snoopybbt> hello people!
[16:21] <ActionPa1snip> Cyrac: tried Xubuntu?
[16:21] <blazemore> felipe__: Then you should use Libreoffice at school
[16:21] <ActionPa1snip> Cyrac: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[16:22] <snoopybbt> i'm reading "the unix programming environment" and it now tries to see the content of a directory by running "od -cb ."
[16:22] <snoopybbt> and that won't work in ubuntu/linux
[16:22] <devyani> how do i come to know about the version of ubuntu am using?
[16:22] <snoopybbt> why ?
[16:22] <Cyrac> No idea,sorry.. just need it on a virtualbox
[16:22] <blazemore> snoopybbt: Because you're reading a unix book
[16:22] <blazemore> snoopybbt: If you were reading a Linux book the examples would work
[16:22] <iceroot_> what can you recommend (FOSS) to use Video and Audiochat? to be able to talk to other users (target is using windows)
[16:23] <blazemore> !ekiga | iceroot_
[16:23] <iceroot_> blazemore: also video?
[16:23] <blazemore> oh wait does that support video?
[16:23] <blazemore> I'm out of ideas then sorry :3
[16:23] <snoopybbt> blazemore: isn't gnu/linux supposed to be unix-compatible/posix-compliant and things lilke that ?
[16:23] <ActionPa1snip> Cyrac: if you didnt MD5 test the ISO, how did you know it was complete and consistant and error free?
[16:23] <ActionPa1snip> Cyrac: have you tried Xubuntu?
[16:24] <blazemore> snoopybbt: Well, conceptually yes, but UNIX hasn't been around for decades
[16:24] <felipe__> blazemore: I know, I agree ...but I am a teacher in Colombia ...pitifully linux is not common here
[16:24] <ch4k3r> My RAM is 3718MB and 621MB is being used, is this fast or average?
[16:24] <felipe__> blazemore: help me please
[16:24] <iceroot_> blazemore: thank you, its also supporting video, i will have a look
[16:24] <Cyrac> idk.. i'm newe to ubuntu.. sorry
[16:24] <blazemore> felipe__: Then you should dual-boot Windows, or install Windows in a virtual machne, if you NEED the compatibility
[16:25] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: if you run:   free -m | head -n 3 | tail -n 1 | awk {'print $3'}     what is output?
[16:25] <ActionPa1snip> Cyrac: download the Xubuntu 12.04 ISO, MD5 test it, then try that in Virtualbox
[16:25] <ch4k3r> ActionPa1snip: it shows 239
[16:25] <felipe__> blazemore: Where can I get the .iso archive ?
[16:25] <ActionPa1snip> Cyrac: if you dont geta display, try different settings in video settings
[16:26] <snoopybbt> i should try on freebsd and see what happens
[16:26] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: then you are using 239Mb RAM
[16:26] <ActionPa1snip> snoopybbt: I suggest PCBSD :)
[16:26] <moldy> still struggling with dependency problems. any suggestions on how to move on? the obvious answers like apt-get -f don't help here. http://pastebin.com/UAw3s6kt
[16:26] <ch4k3r> my RAM is 4GB
[16:26] <ch4k3r> I bought my laptop and the supplier said it's 4GB...
[16:26] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: 239 is your used ram
[16:26] <ch4k3r> and system profiler says its 4GB
[16:26] <ch4k3r> how is my ram 239MB?
[16:26] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: you are USING 239Mb
[16:27] <ch4k3r> oh!
[16:27] <ch4k3r> is 4GB fast?
[16:27] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: free -m | head -n 2 | tail -n 1 | awk {'print $2'}       is total RAM
[16:27] <blazemore> I am going home now, good luck all
[16:27] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: 4gb doesnt show speed
[16:27] <moldy> if i try to remove these packages with apt-get remove, i just get more depndency problems :(
[16:27] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: 4Gb is a restriction on how many concurrent apps can run
[16:27] <ch4k3r> actionpa1snip, 3631
[16:27] <xintron> I'm currently dividing my disk for a linux + windows 8 setup but I'm not sure what partitions win8 will need. EFI is created but am I best of leaving the space for windows after the EFI and then create my linux partition at the end of the disk (leaving unallocated space between EFI -> Linux)?
[16:28] <ch4k3r> ActionPa1snip: how can I learn commands like that?
[16:28] <xintron> (then let windows handle the partition table setup with the unallocated space)
[16:28] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: sounds about right, do you have onboard video?
[16:28] <TheCompWiz> Anyone know what hd-media I should be using in conjunction with the precise iso?  Everytime I boot from the hd-media in current... it comes back with "No kernel modules were found"
[16:28] <ch4k3r> what is a onboard video?
[16:28] <fds> snoopybbt: It is apparently a property (limitation?) of the Linux kernel.  See: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/43056/od-emulation-for-directories
[16:28] <bibi23> How can I get a "no such file or directory" error when running a mysql query in a script? here is the error I get and the offending line, I don't try to use any directory on that line "/usr/bin/mysql" is a correct path. http://pastie.org/8229961
[16:28] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: you learn the individual commands, like grep and awk, then use them in chains by using pipes
[16:28] <Cyrac> So how do I find out wich ubuntu goes for the version of virtualbox.. i have no idea what to do
[16:28] <fds> snoopybbt: I mean, I don't think of it as a limitation, but maybe you do. :-P
[16:29] <ch4k3r> what is the meaning of generic-pae
[16:29] <ActionPa1snip> Cyrac: again, there is no specific version
[16:29] <felipe__> I need your help guys....where can i get the windows xp .iso archive ?
[16:29] <daftykins> felipe__: that isn't the purpose of this channel
[16:29] <daftykins> this is for ubuntu support
[16:29] <ActionPa1snip> Cyrac: if you use Xubuntu or Lubuntu you will not be using Compiz and it will run smoother and labour the host less
[16:29] <ch4k3r> what does generic-pae mean? which is on some few distros when you do uname -a
[16:29] <ch4k3r> like 3.x.x-generic-pae
[16:29] <daftykins> ch4k3r: google.
[16:29] <k1l_> felipe_: ##windows
[16:30] <felipe__> daftykins: Ok...sorry my friend
[16:30] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: instead of an external video chip you can use a GPU attached to the motherboard, or even inside the CPU if you have ivy or sandybridge
[16:30] <ch4k3r> daftykins: I was expecting a reply from ActionPa1snip.
[16:30] <daftykins> ch4k3r: sure, but you're asking stuff you can look up for yourself
[16:30] <CodeB> hi guys, someone here uses empathy? how can i hide join and leaving messages? thanks ;)
[16:30] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: its the name of the kernel. As a standard user I wouldnt worry too much
[16:30] <ch4k3r> oh.
[16:30]  * TheCompWiz wishes someone had an answer for me.
[16:31] <xangua> CodeB: you don't, better use a dedicated irc client
[16:31] <superboot> Hi all. Ubuntu has (what I think to be) a stupid default of having all files your write be world readable. Would it obviously break something to do:    chmod -R o-rwx *  ?
[16:31] <wilee-nilee> TheCompWiz,  hd-media?
[16:31] <ActionPa1snip> !bug 660176 | CodeB
[16:31] <CodeB> xangua: ok, thanks ;) need to go back to xchat...
[16:31] <snoopybbt> fds, blazemore: it actually works on FreeBSD 9.something
[16:32] <ActionPa1snip> CodeB: Pidgin does it :)
[16:32] <snoopybbt> fds: i'm gonna checkout that link you posted :)
[16:32] <iceroot_> superboot: dont do that
[16:32] <iceroot_> superboot: specially not on /
[16:32] <sviesusisalus> hi. when i try to use apt-get i get "Segmentation fault (core dumped)". apt-get clean doesnt help. how can i fix this ?
[16:32] <CodeB> ActionPa1snip: ahahah thanks but i'm used to xchat, i'm just testing empathy..
[16:32] <fds> snoopybbt: Perhaps they care less about compatibility with a wider range of filesystems.
[16:33] <superboot> iceroot_: Yes, I know not to do it on root. I'm just talking about /home/user/*
[16:33] <ActionPa1snip> CodeB: same here but PIdgin, used it all my Linux days. Waay back when it was Gaim :)
[16:34] <CodeB> ActionPa1snip: i'll give it a try too :P
[16:34] <Cyrac> I installed version 13 of ubuntu.. the virtualbox says: This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU,but only detected an i686 CPU. Unable to boot - please use a kernal appropriate for your CPU
[16:35] <ch4k3r> ActionPa1snip: please check this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5977912/ and tell me if it is right.
[16:35] <iceroot_> Cyrac: and your question is?
[16:35] <Cyrac> How do i install the right one the version 13 without get that message
[16:35] <superboot> Cyrac: You got the wrong Ubuntu iso. You need a 32 bit version.
[16:36] <tharkun> !versions
[16:36] <iceroot_> Cyrac: your host-system is not an amd64 system or you have disabled vt-x in virtualbox, because of that you can not install ubuntu as the amd64 version as a guest
[16:36] <snoopybbt> fds: i don't think it's a  filesystem compatibility list... i'm reading a lot of different answers on the topic
[16:36] <iceroot_> Cyrac: so use the i386 version (32bit) or make sure your host and vbox setup supports amd64 (64bit)
[16:36] <snoopybbt> fds: someone talks about not all filesystems storing directories as files, some other says it's a problem of gnu od
[16:37] <ch4k3r> please check this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5977912/ and tell me if it is right.
[16:37] <ch4k3r> actionpa1snip?
[16:37] <Cyrac> how do I check it and where can I download the 32 bit and/or 64bit?
[16:37] <iceroot_> !download | Cyrac
[16:37] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: i'd change it to:   /home/ch4k3r/Desktop/hz/Check\ Nast/defense.sh
[16:37] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: escapes the space in the file name
[16:37] <ch4k3r> why not ""
[16:38] <ch4k3r> and do I have to add that little space
[16:38] <iceroot_> Cyrac: http://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso
[16:38] <ActionPa1snip> ch4k3r: not sure it'll work tbh, I know the escaping will be fine
[16:38] <ch4k3r> like
[16:38] <ch4k3r> /home/
[16:38] <ch4k3r> or
[16:38] <TheCompWiz> Ok... question of the millennium... why are the precise hd-media images for quantal?  (http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/)
[16:38] <FloodBot1> ch4k3r: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:38] <Bowbles_> I am trying to use apache2 as a proxy, but am getting a "Invalid command 'ProxyRequests', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration" error. However, I have already enabled mod_rewrite using "sudo a2enmod rewrite" and tried to restart the service (where this error came from). Any ideas what else it may be?
[16:38] <snoopybbt> fds: btw, the "linux won't let you do read(<args here) on directories" is the most reasonable reason, so i'll take that for right, one day i'll investigate that myself
[16:38] <Cyrac> What does it mean this Raring thing?
[16:38] <iceroot_> !raring | Cyrac
[16:39] <Cyrac> ok.. thanks.. i hope this one works :s
[16:39] <iceroot_> Cyrac: its the name of the current release
[16:39] <moldy> ok, i restored the pre-releasde-upgrade sources.list and ran apt-get autoremove. now, apt is apparently removing my whole system...
[16:40] <moldy> funny stuff
[16:40] <MoPac> I'm seen a regression recently in display performance, and I'm not sure if it's ubuntu, nvidia, the Sony-related kernel plugins, or some combingation (on Sony Vaio F). When my screen turns off due to inactivity, and I reactivate it, it cannot stay on more than a second or so. I press display button to turn it on, then it goes right back off. Have to shut down to fix. Anyone else seen similar?
[16:40] <daftykins> moldy: you started an upgrade and are trying to go back?
[16:41] <moldy> daftykins: as a last resort, because i cannot figure out how to fix the dependency issues
[16:41] <TheCompWiz> Anyone? ... why are quantal hd-images in the precise tree?
[16:41] <papachan> TheCompWiz ???
[16:41] <TheCompWiz> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/   <---- just tested... those are for quantal... not precise.
[16:42] <Pici> TheCompWiz: Have you considered that it might not be on purpose?
[16:42] <TheCompWiz> or at the very least... it is looking for the kernel packages for quantal...
[16:43] <TheCompWiz> Pici: No.  Precise is LTS... quantal is not.
[16:43] <Pici> TheCompWiz: What package is it looking for?
[16:43] <TheCompWiz> Pici:  During the install process... it complains that it can't find kernel modules... I continue anyway... get to the end... and it asks which kernel to use... and the only things listed are quantal images.
[16:43] <TheCompWiz> s/images/kernels/
[16:44] <trism> TheCompWiz: that would make sense with the lts enablement stack stuff
[16:44] <TheCompWiz> enablement?
[16:44] <Pici> !info linux-generic-lts-quantal precise
[16:44] <TheCompWiz> wha?
[16:44] <TheCompWiz> Ok... so where do I find hd-media that corresponds to the precise 12.04.2 iso?
[16:44] <Pici> TheCompWiz: Its a way to get more up-to-date kernel images in an LTS release.
[16:45] <snoopybbt> fds: funny thing: i can do some sort of ls without using ls on FreeBSD: i just need to run strings against .
[16:45] <snoopybbt> fds: or another dir
[16:46] <trism> TheCompWiz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[16:46] <snoopybbt> 26~
[16:47] <R-800> Hello, everyone.  I'm trying to download VLC media player for Ubuntu from a Windows machine so that it can be installed remotely. (the Ubuntu machine has no internet connection).  At first it was surprisingly hard just to find a non-windows version for download.  Finally found one, but it has a link I must use to start the download that won't work from Firefox in Windows.  How can I get this...
[16:47] <R-800> ...download going?
[16:48] <reisio> R-800: packages.ubuntu.com
[16:48] <reisio> now, were you the guy who wouldn't say why he can't use a network?
[16:49] <Slart> R-800: there used to be a "create a wget script to download stuff from an offline computer and then run it on any windows computer"-application somewhere.. not sure if it's still around though
[16:49]  * Confused_guy would like to interject for a moment and contemplate about something rather bizarre.
[16:50]  * Confused_guy noticed that MOST of the laptops in his local computer store had SSD drives.
[16:50]  * Confused_guy just found out that the TRIM function is NOT enabled by default in Ubuntu 13.04.
[16:50]  * Confused_guy is confused.
[16:50]  * ikonia asks Confused_guy to stop doing /me commands
[16:50] <ikonia> Confused_guy: if you want help, just ask a question
[16:50] <Confused_guy> ikonia: sorry about that. :)
[16:50]  * x_ wonders why they speak about themselves in the third person
[16:50] <ikonia> Confused_guy: not a problem
[16:51] <Confused_guy> But I'm still rather confused about that....
[16:51] <daftykins> TRIM is part of the ATA spec, if it has been implemented in the Linux kernel it'll be there
[16:51] <ikonia> Confused_guy: just ask a clear question, and people will try to help/explain
[16:51] <daftykins> if manual setup is required, google it. i doubt it'll be hard
[16:51] <x_> what is TRIM function?
[16:51] <ikonia> Confused_guy: it can get a bit lost with /me commands
[16:51] <ActionPa1snip> x_: its for SSDs
[16:51] <daftykins> x_: SSD maintenance
[16:51] <R-800> Slart: Do you think something like Keryx might help with this?
[16:51] <Confused_guy> I was just wondering why the TRIM command isn't enabled by default. :\
[16:52] <ikonia> Confused_guy: what makes you think it's not enabled ?
[16:52] <x_> maybe it's not enabled because most don't use ssd's?
[16:52] <Confused_guy> ikonia: because I found tutorials for 13.04 telling people how to enable it.
[16:52] <x_> though i guess it wouldn't do anything to regular hdd's
[16:53] <Confused_guy> ikonia: How can I check whether or not it is enabled?
[16:53] <Slart> R-800: no idea, never used (or even heard of keryx) but it sounds like a nice idea
[16:53] <ikonia> Confused_guy: you have to tell machine you're using an SSD, it's not disabled
[16:53] <ikonia> Confused_guy: you change the mount options in /etc/fstab to confirm the correct settings, then it's done
[16:53] <joe1> Hey quick question what should i google for i have an issue with a grey chunk on the left of my screen then the right side is the desktop
[16:53] <ikonia> Confused_guy: (basically anyway)
[16:53] <Slart> R-800: the package-download script thing I was talking about was a part of synaptic.. the old default package manager before software center
[16:54] <Confused_guy> ikonia: This guide right here tells me that using /etc/fstab for TRIM may not be a good idea: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd#TOC-Automatic-TRIM:-by-rc.local-by-cron-or-by-discard
[16:54] <R-800> Slart: Right.  Okay.
[16:54] <Confused_guy> But I don't know if it is outdated or not.
[16:54] <joe1> i know a little so im also willing to help with any issues others have
[16:54] <ActionPa1snip> joe1: sounds like Unity panel isnt loading right. Press ALT+F2 and run:   unity --replace
[16:54] <ActionPa1snip> Confused_guy: https://sites.google.com/site/lightrush/random-1/checkiftrimonext4isenabledandworking
[16:55] <joe1> im runing lxde
[16:55] <ikonia> Confused_guy: it doesn't advise you not to do that
[16:55] <ActionPa1snip> Confused_guy: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/enable-trim-on-ssd-solid-state-drives.html
[16:55] <ikonia> Confused_guy: it makes you aware of what happens when you put discard options in /etc/fstab
[16:55] <ActionPa1snip> joe1: ok, do you use xcompmgr ?
[16:55] <joe1> let me check
[16:56] <ActionPa1snip> joe1: you will know if you are, ts a conscious thing to install and use
[16:56] <R-800> reisio: I followed a download link for VLC on packages.ubuntu.com that downloaded a 43k file, seemingly too small to be anything but a startup file for some kind of download manager, which isn't what I need.  Did I click the wrong thing?
[16:56] <ActionPa1snip> joe1: so to 'check' you have to remember if you installed it
[16:56] <Confused_guy> Thanks for the help guys.
[16:56] <joe1> ok so im not i checked in terminal and it said its not intalled
[16:56] <ActionPa1snip> joe1: what, exactly, were you going to 'check' with/at/on/in?
[16:56] <Slart> R-800: synaptic is still available from the regular ubuntu repos, it's just not installed by default.. if you install it there is an option in the File menu to "generate package download script", put the resulting file on a usb-stick together with the wget application and it will download the packages you need to the usb stick (or that's the theory at least)
[16:57] <joe1> i just typed the name of the program to see if it was installed
[16:57] <ActionPa1snip> joe1: is this an upgrade from a previous release or is it a clean install?
[16:57] <reisio> R-800: well, it doesn't handle deps for you
[16:57] <joe1> clean install 12.10
[16:57] <ActionPa1snip> joe1: is it fully updated?
[16:57] <joe1> no
[16:57] <ActionPa1snip> joe1: what video chip do you use?
[16:57] <joe1> im working on that now
[16:58] <ActionPa1snip> joe1: get fully updated and then worry
[16:58] <ActionPa1snip> joe1: updates may fix it
[16:58] <R-800> Slart: Interesting.  I see.  I used to use Synaptic a long time ago, and wouldn't mind seeing it again.  But my headache is installing programs at all, as they must be acquired initially on a Windows machine and then transferred to a Ubuntu one.  I'm having a lot of trouble.
[16:58] <joe1> got it ill stick around will stick around untill update are done incase i can help anybodey
[16:59] <Slart> R-800: that's what the script is for.. you run the download script on another machine and it downloads the packages it needs to the usb stick.. you then use that on the offline ubuntu machine.. it's like a network proxy.. albeit a slow and possible sweat-inducing one =)
[16:59] <R-800> reisio: Okay.
[17:00] <reisio> you could always boot a live copy of Ubuntu on the networked machine and fetch from there
[17:00] <reisio> or... just network the box you're installing to already
[17:01] <R-800> Slart: I understand that, and I think that is absolutely awesome.  But as you pointed out, Synaptic doesn't come with Ubuntu by default anymore, and it's Synaptic that generates the script that makes this transfer to the USB stick possible.  That means I have to get Synaptic onto the Ubuntu machine somehow, as the first step, without benefit of the script generating trick.
[17:01] <matthias_> hello, i've got a problem with my ubuntu ltsp server
[17:01] <Slart> R-800: packages.ubuntu.com should take care of that.. I don't think synaptic has a lot, if any, dependencies.. but you will be doing a lot of walking back and forth between the two computers with any solution
[17:02] <joe1> R-800 you should be able to sudo apt-get install synaptic
[17:02] <Slart> R-800: You might want to check if it's possible to download the most common packages onto a usb-stick or dvd.. like the old big install dvd's and use that as a package source
[17:02] <R-800> Slart: Understood, and granted.  And yes, the fewer dependencies, the less of a headache it will be.  And thankfully, there won't be that much walking, as one of them is a laptop.  : )
[17:02] <TJ-> R-800: There's a little 'trick' to help you. Install the same Ubuntu into a virtual machine on the Windows host, then once it's fetched the files you need, copy them to your USB storage from "/var/cache/apt/archives/" and put them in that same location on the target Ubuntu.
[17:03] <ActionPa1snip> TJ-: done that before, or use liveCD, mount the internal partition and copy the deb files over :)
[17:03] <R-800> TJ: Interesting.
[17:03] <ActionPa1snip> R-800: ^
[17:03] <TJ-> ActionPa1snip: Yeah, it can be useful even on another Linux host with chroot, if you have one without connectivity
[17:04] <matthias_> my fat-clients shows only the busybox up. i configured a proxy-dhcp with dnsmasq and it worked with thin clients very well but not with fat clients. it show the error socket failed connection refused when i hit f6 while the ubunt logo is loading
[17:05] <TJ-> ActionPa1snip: R-800: Also, in the past, I've taken the hard drive out of the target, plugged it into a networked host, configured a virtual machine on the host to use that hard drive, and then just done a regular update since the VM has network
[17:05] <ActionPa1snip> matthias_: do you see them requesting things in the logs
[17:05] <matthias_> ActionPa1snip: which logs?
[17:06] <ActionPa1snip> matthias_: for the services, on the server side
[17:06] <Slart> R-800: this looks like another way of doing things.. http://www.howtoforge.com/dvd_images_of_ubuntu_repositories
[17:06] <Slart> R-800: it seems simpler to do it with a usb-stick though.. dvd's are so last decade =)
[17:06] <TheCompWiz> Pici: I'm still a bit lost... I understand what you're saying but the question is this: what hd-media do I need to use for the *currently-default* ubuntu precise iso?
[17:07] <matthias_> ActionPa1snip: sorry i don't know wich log files do you mean?
[17:07] <matthias_> ActionPa1snip: it shows on the client the busybox after the ubunut logo
[17:07] <jonascj> Hi. libvirt-bin is crashing for me when starting. It exits with status 6 (seen in the syslog) ~10 times and then finally stops respawning because it's respawning too fast. Any suggestions as to where I might start my investigation?
[17:08] <ActionPa1snip> matthias_: its a dns server right? with dnsmasq?
[17:08] <matthias_> ActionPa1snip: yes right.
[17:08] <ActionPa1snip> matthias_: do you see any activity in the dnsmasq log mentioning the system having an issue?
[17:09] <ActionPa1snip> matthias_: is the hostname in the DHCP lease pool on the sever
[17:09] <ActionPa1snip> matthias_: do you see a request etc in the logs for the DHCP service
[17:09] <ActionPa1snip> matthias_: this is basic trouble shooting stuff.....checking logs]
[17:10] <ActionPa1snip> matthias_: are the services being hit by the client?
[17:10] <ActionPa1snip> matthias_: if not then check the client
[17:10] <ActionPa1snip> matthias_: if they are, what responce do they get? What does it mean? Does the client get the responce?
[17:10] <ActionPa1snip> matthias_: is there logging on the clients?
[17:11] <matthias_> ActionPa1snip: no the clients cant log because they don't start up, they only show the busybox
[17:11] <ActionPa1snip> matthias_: then basic stuff like pinging IPs and making sure interfaces have drivers and IPs and default gateways and so forth
[17:12] <ActionPa1snip> matthias_: then its nothing to do with the server side yet, you need to get the clients up and running]
[17:12] <ActionPa1snip> matthias_: but its that sort of stuff you need to be looking at, just on the clients, all logs and such
[17:13] <matthias_> ActionPa1snip: there all drivers every interface is working, because it worked without the dnsmasq and as thin client config, but not in the fat client modus
[17:13] <matthias_> ActionPa1snip: how should i  look on the clients when they only show the busybox. im scanning right now the servers log
[17:13] <ActionPa1snip> matthias_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients
[17:15] <matthias_> ActionPa1snip: i know this site, i configured the server like there. 1 week ago i've done this without dhcp-proxy and it worked. but now i get errors on the client like : socket failed connection refused
[17:15] <Guest23641> Hey guys, i just install 13.04 on my machine which has a nvidia g660 card in it when unity goes to start it says opengl module not found.  the nvidia-settings appears to show everything working properly any ideas?
[17:16] <ActionPa1snip> Guest23641: what CPU do you use?
[17:16] <ash__> \list
[17:16] <matthias_> ActionPa1snip: here's the important section of the log file http://pastebin.com/9eD4cYpu
[17:17] <joe1> i was so behind on updates 300mb plus
[17:17] <ActionPa1snip> joe1: all ok now?
[17:17] <joe1> still updateing
[17:17] <Bowbles_> I am trying to use apache2 as a proxy, but am getting a "Invalid command 'ProxyRequests', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration" error. However, I have already enabled mod_rewrite using "sudo a2enmod rewrite" and tried to restart the service (where this error came from). Any ideas what else it may be?
[17:18] <ActionPa1snip> matthias_: in the busybox can you check ip addresses of the system?
[17:18] <MoPac> Hello; I have a question about testing upstream kernel builds.  I'm not sure which version I need to choose in order to validate a bug report in Ubuntj 13.04 - there seem to be so many choices.
[17:19] <daum_> hey guys - just install a nvidia g660 on 13.04 but now uniqty won't start saying it can't find opengl (just asked this under Guestname, however moved the irc to my laptop)
[17:21] <matthias_> ActionPa1snip: no i can't but it shows the ip of the server, the dhcp router and the client on the pxe loading screen up
[17:22] <matthias_> ActionPa1snip: i think here is the problem Aug 12 19:18:58 matthias-VirtualBox in.tftpd[2246]: tftp: client does not accept options
[17:23] <ActionPa1snip> matthias_: then use t'web and see what it means :)
[17:23] <Cyrac> This might sound stupid to ask. But what can ubuntu do that windowds can't?
[17:23] <trism> MoPac: which bug? they often specify which version they want you to test, though probably just latest which would be: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11-rc5-saucy/
[17:23] <iceroot_> Cyrac: respect your freedom
[17:23] <iceroot_> !free | Cyrac
[17:23] <ZIPY> Cyrac: shell
[17:23] <ZIPY> Cyrac: open source
[17:24] <TJ-> Cyrac: Give you Freedom
[17:24] <MoPac> trism: But should I really use a Saucy-configured build to test for Raring problems?
[17:24] <Cyrac> So u mena it can make bots,irc server for free cuz its built in?
[17:24] <Cyrac> *mean
[17:24] <ActionPa1snip> Cyrac: lots of things as the OS is flexible
[17:24] <daum_> it looks like i'm getting issues from compiz (opengl) - Error: FBO is incomplete: GL::FRAMEBUFFER_UNSUPPORTED (0x8cdd) any ideas?
[17:24] <iceroot_> Cyrac: yes but when we say "free" we mean "free as in free speech" not "free as in free beer"
[17:24] <TJ-> It gives you the Freedom to tinker with the code, transform it, extend it, do clever things with it
[17:24] <ActionPa1snip> Cyrac: yes you can run an IRC server if you want
[17:25] <Wulframn> Cyrac: the primary difference is that Windows is comprised of a proprietary set of software, while Ubuntu is free and open-sourced. What this means is that you can look anywhere, do anything, etc. with Ubuntu whereas you cannot with Windows.
[17:25] <Cyrac> if it wasnt for the commands on ubuntu how hard it is,i probably have choosed ubuntu instead
[17:26] <iceroot_> Cyrac: you have use ubuntu without the command line interface (cli), there is no need to use commands
[17:26] <PeterGriffin> I set up a VPN and I need a tool to measure the speed ot the interface, the loss rate, etc. Does anyone have a suggestion?
[17:26] <iceroot_> Cyrac: its just easier for us to help with commands instead of "click here, click there and so on"
[17:26] <iceroot_> PeterGriffin: iftop for example
[17:26] <iceroot_> PeterGriffin: also ping, wget and so on
[17:27] <ZIPY> PeterGriffin: how is louis :P
[17:27] <axisys> I created a replica on account on master and I can connect to it from slave using that account .. but use rt4 says Access denied for user 'replica'@'%'
[17:27] <axisys> oops. wrong channel
[17:27] <PeterGriffin> ZIPY: She asks about you too
[17:27] <nicksloan> how might I work around this: https://gist.github.com/nicksloan/2417cb3d7696ea720468
[17:27] <R-800> Sorry for being repetitive, guys, and ignorant, and thick in the head, but I have to ask this again.  And I must apologize for being so clueless, as it makes it hard to even know what question to even ask. Here's by best effort at asking anyway:
[17:28] <R-800> I'd like to download VLC media player for Ubuntu 12.04, as completely as possible (meaning all dependencies included) via a Windows machine, so that I can sneakernet it to a Ubuntu machine without internet. How can I proceed?.
[17:28] <Cyrac> How do i fiund out what version of ubuntu i use on ubuntu?
[17:28] <Cyrac> *find
[17:28] <iceroot_> !offline | R-800
[17:28] <nicksloan> whoops
[17:28] <iceroot_> Cyrac: cat /etc/issue
[17:28] <nicksloan> thought I was in #puppet
[17:28] <silner> R-800: the easiest way may be to add the medibuntu repo
[17:28] <R-800> I'd live to do that, but Synaptic isn't installed on this version of Ubuntu, or am I mistaken?
[17:28] <R-800> live = love
[17:29] <iceroot_> R-800: http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/
[17:29] <TJ-> R-800: boot a LiveCD/USB on a networked machine of 12.04, install vlc, copy /var/cache/apt/archives/ to the target Ubuntu and do "apt-get install vlc"
[17:29] <ActionPa1snip> R-800: not by default
[17:29] <Cyrac> Oh man. i wnated ubuntu the latest version,not version 9. :s
[17:29] <R-800> TJ-: I don't have a networked machine running 12.04 currently.
[17:30] <silner> I never realised Synaptic isn't in Ubuntu. Sorry. I mostly use Xubuntu, but I thought that would hold
[17:30] <ActionPa1snip> Cyrac: yeah, neither Karmic or Jaunty are suported
[17:30] <ActionPa1snip> silner: its still available :)
[17:31] <PeterGriffin> iceroot_: I haven't tryed iftop, which I will in a moment, bat in general I need something giving rich statistics for the connection quolity.
[17:31] <nicksloan> is there any way to stop packages that start themselves on installation?
[17:31] <matthias_> ActionPa1snip: sry i can't find anything ;(
[17:31] <nicksloan> that is… prevent that from happening at all
[17:31] <R-800> iceroot_: What should I enter for the question "What package do you need to install?" if I"m looking for VLC and all its dependencies?
[17:32] <matthias_> ActionPa1snip: still the same in.tftpd[2246]: tftp: client does not accept options
[17:32] <nicksloan> because auto-starting a service I've just installed is kind of a bitch-ass thing to do, from an automated provisioning standpoint.
[17:32] <TJ-> R-800: You need "apt-offline"
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> !language | nicksloan
[17:33] <trism> MoPac: yes, the point is to see if the bug is already fixed upstream
[17:33] <ActionPa1snip> matthias_: if you check the working systems, do they have that in the logs too?
[17:33] <R-800> TJ-: Where do I enter that?
[17:33] <nicksloan> lotuspsychje: my apologies! didn't mean to offend
[17:33] <usr13> nicksloan: There are applications that start in userspace, and you'll find a section in "Settings" for "Autostart".  (Services are a different matter.)
[17:33] <MoPac> trism: thanks
[17:33] <MoPac> I'm seen a regression recently in display performance, and I'm not sure if it's ubuntu, nvidia, the Sony-related kernel plugins, or some combingation (on Sony Vaio F). When my screen turns off due to inactivity, and I reactivate it, it cannot stay on more than a second or so. I press display button to turn it on, then it goes right back off. Have to shut down to fix. Anyone else seen similar?
[17:33] <ActionPa1snip> matthias_: http://www.unix.com/red-hat/181855-pxe-boot-server.html
[17:34] <silner> ActionPa1snip: Ah, I guess it's the promotion of the software centre. I should have realised.
[17:34] <TJ-> R-800: http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Offline_Package_Management_for_APT
[17:34] <drmeister> Hey folks - I've used Linux(slackware/redhat/fedora) for several years in the past but not for the past 5 years or so.  I'm installing Ubuntu.
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> !yay | drmeister
[17:34] <ActionPa1snip> matthias_: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:PXE_boot_installation  states: This is normal. PXELINUX does not seem to accept all options, but it does not impact booting. "in.tftpd: tftp: client does not accept options"
[17:34] <drmeister> Question: Do the development tools get installed automatically?
[17:34] <nicksloan> usr13: yeah. I'm wrestling with a service… supervisor
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> !dev | drmeister
[17:35] <val___> hello
[17:35] <usr13> nicksloan: Is this a server, or desktop?
[17:35] <drmeister> Currently it's installing and "Retrieving file 51 of 109" - it's going to take a while before I can find out.
[17:35] <JuJuBee> Ive been having trouble with my desktop not booting.  Get a grub error.  I have a sata->usb adapter so I took the HD out and plugged it into my laptop while looking at syslog.  Here are the results  http://pastebin.com/MLVFHZfV  is my HD Toast?
[17:35] <nicksloan> the init scripts are not very good, and a bare-bones upstart script is working a lot better. would rather just use that.
[17:35] <reisio> hi val___
[17:35] <bazhang> drmeister, you need to install build-essential
[17:35] <nicksloan> usr13: ubuntu server
[17:35] <val___> I want to build a terminal-based(ncurses) desktop app that talks to a server
[17:36] <TJ-> R-800: Provided you have Python on the Windows PC, apt-offline will work
[17:36] <drmeister> bazhang: Is "install build-essential" a command line command?
[17:36] <bazhang> drmeister, sudo apt-get install packagename is the syntax
[17:36] <nicksloan> usr13: the trick is, I'm provisioning with puppet. I can install my upstart script, and tell it to use upstart instead of init, but not when it is already started.
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> JuJuBee: maybe you can test your hd with the package 'testdisk'
[17:36] <Cyrac> How do I check with virtualbox v4.2.16 what ubuntu I can use. everytime i try download the latest version version 12 or 13,i have problems
[17:37] <JuJuBee> lotuspsychje: the os does  not see it as far as I can tell...
[17:37] <drmeister> ubottu: I'm writing a Common Lisp compiler at the moment for my research - I'll be compiling it on Ubuntu but I don't think I would call myself an "ubuntu developer".
[17:37] <R-800> TJ-: I was just wondering about that.  According to this article, apt-offline will indeed work when the networked machine runs Windows, which is exactly the situation that applies for me.
[17:37] <drmeister> ubottu - you rascal.
[17:37] <nicksloan> really think there ought to be a way to choose in advance
[17:37] <TJ-> R-800: I think you have your solution!
[17:37] <R-800> TJ-: Thank you.  But what should I download to enure this will work for the Windows machine?
[17:37]  * pinky is away: Away
[17:38] <drmeister> bazhang: Putting it all together its: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"?
[17:38] <TJ-> R-800: I assume, a Windows build of python, and the apt-offline python script
[17:38] <usr13> nicksloan: service <name> stop
[17:38] <ActionPa1snip> R-800: just use dpkg to install all the debs
[17:38] <bazhang> drmeister, yes
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> JuJuBee: if testdisk or gparted can't see your hd, might be dead indeed
[17:38] <drmeister> bazhang: Got it - thank you very much!
[17:39] <R-800> ActionPa1snip: Are you sure? That sounds like something that wouldn't work in Windows.
[17:39] <TJ-> R-800: see the man page: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/apt-offline.8.html
[17:39] <ActionPa1snip> R-800: if you are copying debs from system to system, you can install debs at command line
[17:39] <val___> I would like to build a client(ncurses)/server application in C, could anyone point me in the right direction? I am coming from the web world where I built http web services and the browser(client) consumed it
[17:40] <TJ-> ActionPa1snip: He won't need dpkg; apt-offline does the install itself
[17:40] <val___> I've been looking into tcp sockets
[17:40] <usr13> nicksloan: In other words, just stop the service, do what you need to do and then re-start it.
[17:40] <drmeister> I'm installing Ubuntu on Virtualbox 4.2.16 on a Mac OS X 10.8.1  -   Ubuntu didn't give me the option of installing 32-bit or 64-bit.  Where does that get defined?
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> val___: maybe try the ##programming channel?
[17:41] <R-800> TJ-: Thanks so much.  I know I need to do a lot of self-education here, and with the links you've provided, I think that's finally going to be possible.
[17:41] <usr13> nicksloan: And so now that you know that a service is automatically started when you install it, you can act accordingly.
[17:41] <DJones> drmeister: That depends on whether you downloaded the 32 or 64 bit iso
[17:41] <val___> lotuspsychje: thanks!
[17:41] <drmeister> DJones - Ah!
[17:41] <Slart> val___: there has to be a channel for c programming.. perhaps they will know of a good framework for you.. try ##cplusplus or ##c
[17:42] <drmeister> DJones: I don't know which one I got - I guess I'll find out once it finishes installing.
[17:42] <Slart> val___: that is assuming you're not looking to write the whole thing from scratch.. =)
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> i have this corrupt mouse icon problem again every first boot of the day on 13.04 64 bit clean install, on an older ati X800 and driver 'radeon', any sugestions?
[17:44] <gribouille> hi
[17:45] <gribouille> is the contents of /dev created statically or dynamically?
[17:45] <R-800> TJ-: Can you tell me anything about Keryx as an alternative approach to this problem?  Any thoughts on which method might be more straightforward?
[17:45] <usr13> gribouille: dynamically
[17:45] <DJones> drmeister: From memory, the 32 bit version will have i386 in the iso's name, 64 bit has amd64 in filename
[17:46] <gribouille> usr13, I have a quantal that is not running, and /dev is not empty
[17:46] <usr13> gribouille: Actually no, it's static, but updated as you go.
[17:46] <drmeister> DJones - then I have the 64-bit version.  I just looked at the iso file: ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[17:47] <TJ-> R-800: apt-offline is in the main ubuntu archives an maintained by one of the apt developers; Keryx isn't either.
[17:47] <usr13> gribouille: Yea, it's static.
[17:47] <gribouille> usr13, you just said it is dynamic
[17:47] <mrtAkdeniz> rdakdeniz
[17:47] <Cyrac> How do i check what operativ system virtualbox have and the system there?
[17:47] <usr13> gribouille: What is it you need to do?
[17:47] <mrtAkdeniz> Hi Guys,
[17:48] <mrtAkdeniz> Is there any channel for game support? Or May I ask here?
[17:48] <Cyrac> I mean if it has 64 or 43
[17:48] <R-800> TJ-: Thanks, but I'm struggling to translate your kind comment. I'll just take this to mean you don't think Keryx is the solution.
[17:48] <Slart> mrtAkdeniz: try asking here
[17:48] <gribouille> usr13, I want to backup my system. do I have to backup /dev?
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> mrtAkdeniz: ubuntu gaming?
[17:48] <usr13> gribouille: What is the purpose of your backup?
[17:48] <mrtAkdeniz> lotuspsychje, yes, on Steam Dota 2
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> mrtAkdeniz: ask your issue mate as Slart sugested you :p
[17:49] <usr13> gribouille: For a complete system restore.  (Start from scratch with new HD?) Or _______________ ?
[17:49] <mrtAkdeniz> I am going to ask lotuspsychje , but I dunno where can I to start :p
[17:49] <gribouille> usr13, yes
[17:49] <nicksloan> usr13: yeah. That occurred to me, but it's easier said than done. Puppet can't have two service objects of the same name. which means I can't let puppet's magic do the stopping of the init version of the service, and the starting of the upstart version, which means making manual Exec calls, which puppet discourages. Not starting on installation at all would be much cleaner, I was just hoping that it was possible.
[17:49] <TJ-> R-800: Correct :) I'd always go for something that is maintained as part of the Debian/Ubuntu core packages
[17:50] <mrtAkdeniz> My graphics are Gallium 0.4 on AMD TURKS, not official amd drivers, and game is lagging.. Freezing etc. How can I install official drivers? I tried once from amd website, but my whole desktop went off. :\
[17:51] <Slart> mrtAkdeniz: add some more info to that like what model of graphics card, what version of ubuntu, if it's just a problem with that game or if this is happening to regular desktop apps as well
[17:52] <usr13> nicksloan: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/puppet.html
[17:52] <mrtAkdeniz> regular desktop apps working well, on game problem is starting.. AMD Radeon HD7670M , Ubuntu 13.04 x64 Gnome
[17:52] <Slart> mrtAkdeniz: I'm sure there are someone in here who knows about AMD graphics cards.. I use a nvidia-card myself so I won't be able to help you myself
[17:52] <mrtAkdeniz> oh Slart mate thank you anyway :)
[17:52] <R-800> TJ-: I'm having some trouble finding out what Python components need to be installed to make apt-offline work with a networked Windows machine.
[17:53] <Cyrac> Can anyone help me to find the right version of ubuntu or something? everytime i try,i cna't get the ubuntu work? not with latest version
[17:53] <nicksloan> usr13: am I supposed to pay attention to a particular part of that? I've seen that page, and the puppet docs. I know how to do what I want, just was looking for a cleaner way.
[17:54] <nicksloan> usr13: I appreciate the help, even though the answer isn't what I was hoping for
[17:54] <TJ-> R-800: I'd say just regular Python, else they'd specify more
[17:54] <TJ-> Install the apt-offline script, run it, see what it says
[17:55] <R-800> TJ-: Seems simple enough.
[17:56] <mrtAkdeniz> Cyrac, can you explain more about your issue?
[17:56] <daftykins> ^+1
[17:56] <matthias_> ActionPa1snip: http://imgur.com/YhlWiAr
[17:57] <MrLahey> Hey there I am on lubuntu and having an issue on my other computer. I changed the password and could not login after that, so I used grub recovery to change the password back. after that I could login but its like my profile is gone. the panel is missing, the desktop is empty, when I right click it shows only the default programs, none of the ones I installed. it basically looks the same as if you logged into a guest account
[17:58] <sahil> hello i am planning to install linux kernal 3.10 in my ubuntu 12.04 for sake of improvement of graphics card.is there and conflict/regression that i amy encounter?
[17:58] <sahil> may*
[17:58] <daftykins> MrLahey: perhaps you've lost your /home ?
[18:00] <daftykins> MrLahey: what do you see from 'ls -l /home' ?
[18:00] <meteors2313> command to join a channel?
[18:01] <reisio> /join #achannel
[18:01] <sahil> any help?
[18:01] <MrLahey> drwx------ 44 david david 12288 Aug 12 02:12 david
[18:01] <sahil> :)
[18:01] <R-800> TJ-: apt-offline won't seem to install in Windows because none of the included files are recognized.
[18:01] <reisio> sahil: with?
[18:01] <reisio> R-800: why not hook the Ubuntu install up to the network
[18:01] <R-800> reisio: I understand that you have difficulty with my situation, but your line of inquiry isn't helpful.
[18:02] <sahil> will updating to kernal 3.10 on ubuntu 12.04 cause any regression?
[18:02] <bekks> sahil: It will cause regressions to everything fixed only in the Ubuntu patches to the kernel.
[18:02] <k1l_> sahil: there is no 3.10 from official ubuntu repos so far.
[18:02] <reisio> well it was more rhetorical
[18:02] <Pici> R-800: How is apt-offline not working in Windows a problem for #ubuntu?
[18:03] <reisio> Pici: you don't see a connection between apt and Ubuntu?
[18:03] <Pici> reisio: I don't see a connection between running software on Windows and Ubutnu.
[18:03] <Illusioneer> I am trying to ssh in, using SSH keys works fine, and sshd_config has "PasswordAuthentication yes", I however can't get my user account to allow a plain-text password login
[18:03] <sahil> hmm
[18:03] <reisio> Pici: what about wubi?
[18:03] <reisio> Pici: what about disk imagers?
[18:03] <reisio> also rhetorical
[18:04] <reisio> sahil: it could, but you can always undo it
[18:04] <Illusioneer> I just get "Permission denied (publickey,password)."
[18:04] <Illusioneer> in the -v version it even says "debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password"
[18:04] <MrLahey> oops
[18:05] <OerHeks> sahil,  the Linux kernel for the upcoming Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) is the stable version 3.10.1, but it is still in beta
[18:05] <Illusioneer> but then after failing to find an rsa key, I get "debug1: No more authentication methods to try."
[18:06] <TJ-> Illusioneer: is there something in ~/.ssh/config preventing passwords ?
[18:06] <MrLahey> daftykins sorry I was looking at wrong pc lol. I can't keep all my computers straight
[18:06] <R-800> Pici: Fair question.  Technically, it isn't.  What would you recommend?  I am doing a favor for a dear family member, who I want to help get into the habit of using Ubuntu.  The machine won't connect to the internet at present.  A windows machine is the only method available for downloads right now.  I would think this community would be more understanding, and champion my efforts to get...
 if i am not mistaking kernal 3.8 is going to be backported to 12.04
[18:06] <R-800> ...someone using Ubuntu.  If the fact that Windows is involved creates a problem for the community, that is a real shame, in my view.  I thought there would be more encouragement and less scrutiny.
[18:06] <gdadheech> Hi
[18:06] <daftykins> MrLahey: can you pastebin 'ls -l /home' ?
[18:06] <Illusioneer> TJ-: no the new user home dir is almost entirely empty
[18:07] <gdadheech> which is best code browser for ubuntu
[18:07] <OerHeks> sahil why messing with kernels, what is your videodriver problem?
[18:07] <Illusioneer> TJ- : do I have to add the user to a ssh group or some such?
[18:07] <k1l_> OerHeks: sahil yes, 3.8 is in the enablement stack for 12.04
 nothing my system is stable...just want to tinker to get few more fps in games ...either natively or via wine ;)
[18:09] <Cyrac> i didnt see the answer of my question,cuz i was away..what was the answer? sorry
[18:09] <rrrr> Hi
[18:09] <TJ-> Pici: apt-offline is provided in the Ubuntu archives for offline installation of packages to a non-networked Debian/Ubuntu PC, and *can* fetch the packages required via a Windows host (or another Linux host) as part of its workflow. So it is pertinent to #ubuntu
[18:10] <Cyrac> Can anyone give me the right version of ubuntu? Cuz everytime I try ubuntu the latest version,it doesnt work.. and idk how to check what right version I need
[18:11] <Pici> R-800: I completely understand. Its not that we don't want to help, but I don't think that you are going to be ab;e to find people here that can help you with installing specific software on Windows even if it is related to Ubuntu.  There are many other helpful channels here on freenode that would be much more informed in such matters.
[18:12] <MrLahey> daftykins http://pastebin.com/zssDsDd8
[18:14] <gdadheech> #codebrowsers
[18:15] <daftykins> MrLahey: hmm ok, well you've still got your own home there then. it said total 12 though 0o is there nothing else in there?
[18:15] <daftykins> Cyrac: what are you trying to install ubuntu on?
[18:16] <gdadheech> Hi
[18:17] <daftykins> hi
[18:17] <gdadheech> any code browser to understand the project ?
[18:17] <k1l_> gdadheech: do you have a ubuntu problem?
[18:18] <MrLahey> daftykins in the terminal i just see the folder home/david
[18:19] <daftykins> MrLahey: fair enough, does the terminal consider your home to be that folder still? and you can see any data within it that you'd created before? e.g. type 'cd' then 'ls' and you should see your stuff
[18:20] <pain> deenooo
[18:20] <pain> hi guys
[18:22] <snollux> Ello ello. So I'm trying to turn this kind of weird package I made (basically a lone C file, plus a few python scripts and a bash "INSTALL" script to move things and set permissions) into a legit ubuntu package. How can I do that?
[18:22] <snollux> Here's the current "INSTALL" script http://pastebin.com/QeP7Fc8P
[18:22] <pain> is anyone keen to help me?
[18:22] <MrLahey> daftykins yes I see my folders and stuff in there
[18:23] <pain> atheros wireless, after the update to 13.04  2 meters range where i can use it
[18:23] <daftykins> MrLahey: ok i was expecting some kind of profile corruption - i'm out of ideas i'm afraid :(
[18:24] <eka> hi all. When I try to upload a picture to say Facebook, I can't see the network drives in the file chooser dialog. I have all my pic in a NAS that I can access it through network file share in nautilus… but can't when uploading… what can I do?
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> snollux  better ask in #ubuntu-app-devel
[18:24] <snollux> Thanks!
[18:24] <reisio> eka: last I checked, admittedly some time ago, Facebook used Java™ by default for such nonsense
[18:25] <eka> reisio: I can't anywhere
[18:25] <pain> eka: i am saving the pic on my desktop and when uploading it, just changing the folder
[18:25] <reisio> can't what?
[18:25] <blazemore> reisio: I've never heard that, and it is the sort of thing I'd have heard
[18:25] <eka> reisio: access my shared net folder from an upload file chooser being FB or other service
[18:26] <eka> pain: it's a PITA
[18:27] <reisio> blazemore: what is?
[18:27] <blazemore> Facebook using Java
[18:27]  * reisio shrugs
[18:28] <blazemore> snollux: Start here http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/
[18:28] <daum_> when i start unity it keeps saying opengl failed to load,it looks like my opengl is working fine - glxgears shows 60fps
[18:28] <eka> http://askubuntu.com/questions/34737/uploading-or-attaching-files-that-located-on-a-shared-drive-doesnt-work
[18:28] <eka> it really sucks
[18:29] <pain> eka: i still have an issue with the ubuntu, when saving somewhere, i have to open the folder manualy, because when it comes to a salf kind of refreshing folder loke desktop it is not there.. so open manually the folder, maybe it helps
[18:29] <jezi22> guys any good pdf reader which saves the last page i read on? i tried evince but i cannot find the options. i tried googling but no luck.
[18:29] <eka> pain: it doesn't … it's a shared folder… I don't know why… win does it, mac does it…
[18:30] <MrLahey> daftykins thanks for your help
[18:30] <drmeister> I'm installing Ubuntu on Virtualbox 4.2.16 on a Mac OS X 10.8.1  -  It got hung up "Retrieving file 55 of 100(and something)" Under Activity Monitor "Real Mem = 5.55 GB" and it was only using 20% CPU and sat like that for an hour.  I hit the SKIP button a few times and now it's continuing.   Will I need to start over again?
[18:30] <eka> jezi22: last time I read in Linux I used to put bookmarks… don't remember which reader though
[18:30] <usr13> eka: If it's nfs share, I'm sure it would work, but beyond that, I don't know.
[18:31] <eka> usr13: it's a samba share
[18:31] <daftykins> drmeister: no, it'll just be trying to pull down updates during install, no reason to do that during install at all
[18:31] <pain> eka: samba shoulld work, try to refresh
[18:31] <usr13> eka: Well, it would depend on how it's mounted.  Should work.  I don't know.
[18:31] <eka> pain: tried many times…
[18:31] <drmeister> daftykins: Thanks - it just said Installation complete and it's rebooting.
[18:31] <jezi22> eka: the default in ubuntu works. just saves it automatically when the pdf is closed. but i reformatted to ubuntu server and installed my own desktop environment. now it doesn't do the same behavior
[18:32] <eka> it just doesn't show on the list of drives… nor show any net browser…
[18:32] <eka> pain: usr13: I even added a shortcut on nautilus… but it doesn't show in the upload dialog
[18:33] <matthias_> is here sb well known about ltsp?
[18:33] <lvleph> When trying to read a folder on an ext3 files system I get an Input/Output error
[18:33] <matthias_> because i've got a question
[18:33] <lvleph> How can I delete this folder?
[18:33] <usr13> eka: If it's mounted perminately (so-to-speak), it probably works.  In other words, with a fstab entry, example:
[18:33] <usr13> eka: //192.168.1.5/my/folder /home/mounts/localmount cifs rw
[18:34] <eka> usr13: yes, but I don't want permanent mount :P
[18:34] <pain> eka: i am not that aadvanced, but it looks like kind of sudo right to me, can't help you more, sorry
[18:34] <eka> pain: it's not that
[18:34] <matthias_> if i boot up my fat client there stands eth0 configured:  192.168.178.227:192.168.178.1:192.168.178.1:255.255.255.0  but above it says  ip=192.168.178.227:192.168.178.4:192.168.178.1:255.255.255.0  ##.277 is my client .4 is my server .1 is my router and my  server acts as dnsmasq but why is in the second line .1 but  not .4?
[18:34] <MrLahey> daftykins another problem I am having my be a clue. for example certain programs no longer work. as an example when I try to run pcmanfm at the terminal it says "error while loading shared libraries: libmenu-cache.so.2"
[18:34] <matthias_> here a screenshoot: http://i.imgur.com/YhlWiAr.jpg
[18:35] <shadej> I want to use my ubuntu as a router
[18:35] <shadej> how will be its performance?
[18:35] <usr13> eka: YOu could always just copy the file(s) over to Ubuntu's filesystem.  Right?
[18:35] <reisio> shadej: fine
[18:36] <eka> usr13: yes but that is a PITA… I don't understand why in hell it doesn't show network shared folders
[18:36] <shadej> reisio: in comparison with a router?
[18:36] <eka> it happens on FB on imgur, gmail…
[18:36] <usr13> eka: I'm not sure either.
[18:36] <reisio> shadej: lot of routers run Linux systems already
[18:36] <daftykins> matthias_: 'connection refused' sounds more like permissions / wrong host
[18:36] <eka> usr13: it must by a tailored down nautilus or something
[18:37] <usr13> eka: And I'm not that knowledgable about facebook either, (my idea of social-networking  is email :).
[18:37] <shadej> reisio: oh yeah but i am trying to use my pc as a router
[18:37] <Cyrac> Can anyone help me get the latest version of ubuntu please? where u ahve trashbin and stuff on the left side
[18:37] <eka> usr13: I can't on gmail… FB was an example
[18:37] <eka> usr13: see here http://serverfault.com/questions/431182/file-upload-page-coming-up-it-is-not-showing-the-mounted-folders
[18:37] <eka> usr13: everybody is having the same issue
[18:37] <usr13> eka: I also don't use nautilus, (I use thunar).
[18:37] <reisio> shadej: I know, you said
[18:38] <drmeister> I have a brand-new shiny Ubuntu installation.  I'm trying to get a development environment installed.   "sudo apt-get install build-essential" returns with "unable to locate package build-essential".   "sudo apt-get update" --> Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists
[18:38] <usr13> eka: (I'm an xfce user.)
[18:38] <eka> usr13: nautilus is the default in ubuntu afaik
[18:38] <reisio> drmeister: you got any other package manager / frontends open?
[18:38] <eka> usr13: in the default ubuntu install ;)
[18:38] <shadej> reisio: so if that is the case why do people purchase routers why dont they use normal PCs to do so
[18:38] <usr13> drmeister: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:38] <drmeister> reisio: I'm new to Ubuntu (but lots of decade old experience with Linux/slackware/redhat/fedora)
[18:38] <usr13> eka: Yes, you are correct.
[18:39] <reisio> shadej: routers are preconfigured for a specific task
[18:39] <Cyrac> I have problems everytime.. :(
[18:39] <shadej> reisio: is that what makes them expensive
[18:39] <reisio> shadej: routers aren't expensive
[18:39] <shadej> reisio: are you sure
[18:39] <pain> ppl, still here, anyone, atheros, bad wireless, ux31e asus, 1 meter works, disabled the power savings-no result..any help? searched everything, well, the thing is that on 12 had the same issue but in a week through the update it was good, now it sucks but i need it for my job..
[18:39] <reisio> yup
[18:39] <drmeister> usr13: All it gives me is "Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists"
[18:40] <matthias_> daftykins: as already metion there is something worng with the ip first and then eth0 because there is 192.168.178.1 instead of .4 you see what i mean?
[18:40] <usr13> drmeister: Close other package managers first.
[18:40] <shadej> reisio: can u tell me their average cost
[18:40] <Cyrac> Who can help me with ubuntu? I am trying to install the latest version of ubuntu.. but everytime i try,i can't get it to work
[18:40] <reisio> shadej: I'm not sure the average cost of all routers would be a useful figure
[18:40] <reisio> shadej: you can get one for $20 at local stores in the USA
[18:40] <drmeister> usr13 - I don't think I have any package managers open.  It just booted into Ubuntu (fresh install) - does one come up automatically?
[18:41] <shadej> reisio: wow i had very bad image then
[18:41] <usr13> drmeister: (There are a cople of front-end applications for apt and one of them is apparently running or opened.)
[18:41] <usr13> drmeister: sudo apt-get update  #What does it say exactly?
[18:41] <DreamPCs> Hey guys, any other apps besides Minitube to play youtube videos?
[18:42] <daftykins> matthias_: you're not really explaining it too clearly
[18:42] <reisio> DreamPCs: youtube-viewer
[18:42] <DreamPCs> Cool, I'll try that, thanks.
[18:42] <Cyrac> usr13: would u b so kindly help me? :)
[18:42] <usr13> Cyrac: Sure.  What do you need?
[18:42] <UbuntuNewbie> !ask | Cyrac
[18:42] <Cyrac> I have been trying to install ubuntu the latest version 11,12 adn 13.. but everytime i try,i can't get it to work
[18:43] <usr13> Cyrac: What seems to be the problem?
[18:43] <shadej> reisio: so you are telling me that i can replace my router with a pc
[18:43] <reisio> shadej: yup, routers are computers too, just simpler ones
[18:44] <Cyrac> i either get a block screen that stops,strange colours or it won't start at all.. hard to say when i ahve tried like 4 times or more
[18:44] <Cyrac> *black
[18:44] <drmeister> usr13: Thanks, is it ok if I post a small piece of screen-shot?  Copy and past from VirtualBox to OS X is not working yet.
[18:44] <usr13> !nomodeset | Cyrac
[18:44] <pain> brennan: paid it, i have the router 2 meters away now an the signla is at the minimum
[18:44] <usr13> !paste | drmeister
[18:45] <usr13> drmeister: One line is ok,
[18:45] <Cyrac> So how do i fix it, usr13?
[18:45] <pain> _
[18:45] <matthias_> daftykins: ok on this image http://i.imgur.com/YhlWiAr.jpg under "my ip address seems to bee..." you can see 192.168.178.227... and on the bottom you can see "eth0 configured...." i think there is ab problem at eth0 configured.. because there is not 192.168.178.4 metioned which is my server and thats because there is the socket error? clear sry im from germany :)
[18:45] <pain> ?
[18:45] <Cyrac> I wnat to have that version of ubuntu that have trasbin and stuff on the left side
[18:45] <pain> hey
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> Cyrac  it's called unity
[18:45] <pain> the pain is not me
[18:46] <pain> THE PAIN IS NOT ME, i mea the one with the atheros
[18:46] <usr13> Cyrac: "See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter"
[18:46] <eka> pain: you could change your nick to something like _pain_
[18:46] <shadej> reisio: is configuring  /etc/sysctl.conf  enough to turn pc to router
[18:46] <ActionParsnip2> Cyrac: that will be Ubuntu then as it uses Unity shell by default
[18:47] <pain> eka: trying, but if i am right the irq from the 90 wouldn't let anyone on the same server with the same nick :)
[18:47] <ActionParsnip2> Cyrac: if you are using virtualbox still then I suggest you use the 2D session.
[18:47] <reisio> shadej: I doubt it
[18:47] <shadej> reisio: hm
[18:47] <ActionParsnip2> !ics
[18:48] <Cyrac> usr13: on that link u gave me,there is a black screen there show about ubuntu.. this generic thingy.. what version of ubuntu is that?
[18:48] <pain> _
[18:49] <daftykins> matthias_: sounds like the DHCP server is giving it the wrong IPs then perhaps
[18:49] <ActionParsnip2> Cyrac : have you tried asking in #vbox they may know some settings
[18:49] <ActionParsnip2> !away > gbuyers[away]
[18:49] <Cyrac> I only want ubuntu to work,but the latest version with all stuff like trashbeen and stuff on the left side
[18:49] <pain> _
[18:50] <drmeister> usr13: I was messing around trying to figure out copy/past from VirtualBox to OS X - here's the result: http://imagebin.org/267303
[18:50] <usr13> Cyrac: Is this what you are talking about?:  http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/3509/dgfdgrunningoraclevmvir.png
[18:50] <pain> changed it everywhere in the settings... does not work.. lol
[18:50] <matthias_> daftykins: my router gives it the .227 but above it becomes the right one you know where to change this, so that in the second paragraph the adress is the same like in the first paragraph?
[18:50] <Cyrac> usr: well.. how does the desktop of ubuntu look like using that ubuntu version?
[18:51] <Left_Turn> hey guys i installed python3 but when u type python3 my OS can't find it.. how can i search for it
[18:51] <reisio> Left_Turn: how'd you install it?
[18:51] <Left_Turn> i can't remember... i used make make install i think
[18:51] <Left_Turn> @resio
[18:51] <painless> _
[18:51] <icelite> hi Left_Turn
[18:51] <icelite> :)
[18:52] <Left_Turn> hi icelite.. do we know each other?
[18:52] <Left_Turn> sorry i have bad memory
[18:52] <icelite> ahh the Swindon girl
[18:52] <painless> eka: did it :D
[18:52] <icelite> remember ?
[18:52] <reisio> Left_Turn: probably should've used apt-get install python3
[18:52] <usr13> drmeister: ls /var/lib/apt/lists/lock    #What does that say?
[18:52] <daftykins> matthias_: if you're trying to PXE boot then you can't use your domestic router for the DHCP server unless you've modified its' scope for the whole thing
[18:52] <Left_Turn> huh?
[18:52] <Left_Turn> oh
[18:52] <icelite> Swindon?
[18:52] <icelite> :D
[18:52] <TJ-> matthias_: Have you ensured the nbd kernel module is installed from the initrd?
[18:52] <Left_Turn> is there a way to search for python3 that i do have reisio ?
[18:52] <drmeister> usr13: It just returns /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[18:52] <Left_Turn> icelite?
[18:53] <icelite> yes
[18:53] <Cyrac> usr13: would u b so kindly show me how the desktop look like on ubuntu using that version of ubuntu u showed me?
[18:53] <Left_Turn> i don't recall speaking to any girls on irc
[18:53] <reisio> Left_Turn: apt-cache search python3
[18:53] <drmeister> cat /var/lib/apt/lists/lock -> Permission denied
[18:53] <Left_Turn> ok thanks reisio
[18:53] <drmeister> usr13: sudo cat /var/lib/apt/lists/lock -> nothing
[18:53] <usr13> drmeister: ls -l /var/lib/apt/lists/lock    #What does that say?
[18:53] <ActionParsnip2> Left_turn: I can name a few
[18:53] <matthias_> yes TJ- daftykins im using dnsmasq because i can't modify settings on my router
[18:54] <Left_Turn> i see ActionParsnip2 :)
[18:54] <TJ-> matthias_: "Socket failed" usually occurs because the nbd kernel module (which creates the socket) isn't loaded
[18:54] <Left_Turn> reisio: it's definately installed.. but the results son't show a path
[18:55] <drmeister> usr13: -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 Feb 13 17:13 /var/lib/apt/lists/lock (I typed that in, it should be accurate)
[18:55] <drmeister> usr13: Yup, it matches.
[18:55] <matthias_> TJ-: and how can i load this module?
[18:56] <Cyrac> usr: i really need to see how the desktop look like from the version of that ubuntu u showed me,the photo.. been installing over and over and i forgot wich one it was
[18:56] <usr13> drmeister: ps aux | grep apt
[18:56] <painless> so, ubuntu 13.04, atheros wireless works on 2 meters only and badly, ubuntu 12 was ok, any help? (latest kernel, and tried everything like turning down the power saving mode and stuff)
[18:56] <ActionParsnip2> Matthias_: based on tj-s advice.  You can run: echo nbd | sudo tee -a /etc/modules > /dev/null
[18:56] <Left_Turn> reisio: :(
[18:57] <usr13> drmeister: ps aux | grep apt    #Show me the pid number(s)
[18:57] <ActionParsnip2> Painless: is the Raring install a fresh install or did you upgrade from Quantal?
[18:57] <drmeister> usr13: It's the same as before so I'll repost it:  http://imagebin.org/267303
[18:57] <drmeister> usr13: Except for the grep pid the pids are the same as in the  http://imagebin.org/267303 paste.
[18:57] <painless> ActionParsnip2 - upgrade
[18:58] <Cyrac> usr: sorry if I nag,but idk how the desktop look like on the version of ubuntu on the photo u showed me.. sorry
[18:58] <ActionParsnip2> Painless : from Quantal?
[18:58] <painless> yep
[18:58] <ActionParsnip2> Drmeister: is software centre open?
[18:59] <ActionParsnip2> Painless : ok. Are there any bugs reported?
[18:59] <painless> ActionParsnip2 did something i did now on the 12th but now it seems not to work
[18:59] <painless> ActionParsnip2 lot of bugs, but none regarding the wireless
[19:00] <drmeister> ActionParsnip2: How do I tell?  I'm new to Ubuntu - some sort of language support installer was open but hung up - I just shut it down.
[19:00] <painless> ActionParsnip2 like python crush, chromium mostly
[19:00] <ActionParsnip2> !aptfix | Drmeister
[19:00] <Cyrac> usr: http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/extra/LINUX/large/ubuntu1210installation-large_014.jpg <... this is the way I want my ubuntu to look like,but the latest version of it
[19:01] <ActionParsnip2> Drmeister : its a big app with software to install
[19:01] <matthias_> ActionParsnip2: TJ- after running this nbd | sudo tee -a /etc/modules > /dev/null
[19:01] <ActionParsnip2> Cyrac : yes that is default.  Its is unity shell
[19:01] <matthias_> ActionParsnip2: TJ- still the same problem
[19:01] <drmeister> ActionParsnip2: I tried the "sudo fuser..." and then sudo apt-get update --> Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists
[19:02] <drmeister> Should I reboot?
[19:02] <usr13> drmeister: sudo kill 1716 ; sudo kill 1717;sudo kill 1718
[19:02] <Cyrax> where do I get that version of ubuntu?
[19:02] <reisio> Left_Turn: that's what dpkg -L is for
[19:02] <ActionParsnip2> Drmeister : sounds like a plan
[19:02] <Left_Turn> what's dpkg -L reisio
[19:02] <ActionParsnip2> Drmeister : then rerun the command ubottu gave
[19:02] <ActionParsnip2> Left_turn : read the man pages
[19:03] <Left_Turn> i really hate man
[19:03] <drmeister> I rebooted and then: sudo apt-get update -> now it is connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com
[19:03] <ActionParsnip2> Reisio : could use awk on the output and pipe to sudo kill :)
[19:03] <Left_Turn> it confuses me even more:(
[19:04] <Cyrax> it would b really helpful,if u could give me a download link to that version, ActionParsnip
[19:04] <Cyrax> For virtualbox that is
[19:04] <usr13> drmeister: After that is done, do sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:05] <usr13> drmeister: (Which is an essential part of the post-install process.)
[19:06] <kim79> Hey i havea problem after i installd the nvidia driver my resilution is wrong and unety dont load
[19:06] <nurow> Does anyone know of a solid, high-end gaming laptop that has excellent compatibility with Ubuntu? I recently purchased a System76 Bonobo Extreme and have had a ton of issues with it, and want to find a better laptop. Any ideas?
[19:07] <Cyrax> ActionParsnip2: sorry if i ask alot,but its first time and i need a download link for that version of ubuntu from the photo I showed u.. latest one. been trying to find it,but no luck
[19:07] <drmeister> usr13: Thanks - I'll do that.  It's saying Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release.gpg... Something wicked happened resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com:http'   Do I have a problem with my connection to the interwebs?
[19:07] <ActionParsnip2> Cryrax: its the Ubuntu iso from the main site. The image you gave is default.  Nothing different
[19:07] <ActionParsnip2>  Cyrax: http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> nurow  try zareason's webiste
[19:08] <drmeister> Currently it is stuck at: 23% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com] [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com] ...
[19:08] <ActionParsnip2> Cyrax: third time now. There is not a special ubuntu for virtualbox just like there isn't a special windows version for virtualbox either
[19:08] <ActionParsnip2>  Cyrax : Ubuntu is Ubuntu
[19:08] <nurow> MonkeyDust, those are also Clevos, right?
[19:09] <nurow> I've just been so disappointed with the Bonobo Extreme. It claims to have Ubuntu support but: my headphone jack doesn't work, my brightness control doesn't work, and the clickpad has no driver and performs HORRRIBLY
[19:10] <ActionParsnip2> Cyrax: you can set settings in virtualbox to run ubuntu better but the cd inage is exactly 100% identical in every way
[19:10] <nurow> I would really like to a high-end Samsung type laptop or something that I could put Ubuntu on... but I'm afraid of running into driver issues.
[19:10] <Cyrax> i know.. but its so confusing for me who never used it before. but just one question.. Are there any command for ubuntu to upgrade ubuntu version i have?
[19:10] <ActionParsnip2> Cyrax : look into the 3D abd 2D acceleration in virtualbox.  Have you tried that?
[19:11] <Cyrax> nope.. idk how either.. sorry
[19:11] <ActionParsnip2> Cyrax: yes you can upgrade to the next release or if you use Precise (and I suggest you do)
[19:12] <ActionParsnip2> Cyrax : you can upgrade directly to 14.04 when it is released next year
[19:12] <ActionParsnip2> Cyrax : in one jump
[19:13] <Cyrax> under get ready for installtion of ubuntu.. u can tick the box "download updates whiel installation of ubuntu.. is that recommended or can I skip that?
[19:14] <Toze_das_Coves> it's up to you Cyrax
[19:14] <drmeister> Hmm, it looks like my Ubuntu installation has no internet connection.  It's running within VirtualBox (sigh).
[19:14] <usr13> drmeister: Yes, if you do not have an active connection to the internet, it won't work.
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, I would tick it.
[19:18] <drmeister> Does anyone have experience with getting a network connection for Ubuntu working from within VirtualBox?  When I bring up the Network settings it says "Attached to NAT" and at the bottom of the window it says "! Non-optimal setting detected"  - that's helpful.
[19:18] <drmeister> I'm on OS X 10.8.1, the network connection to the host is fine.
[19:19] <Rexodus> Is it working?
[19:20] <kim79> I installd the nvidia drivers and now unity bars wont load
[19:21] <tsygrl> hey all - i just installed postfix on an unbuntu box. Accidentally trashed /etc/postfix. How do i get it back apt-get remove dovecot-postfix; apt-get install --reinstall dovecot-postfix; does not reinstall /etc/postfix.
[19:21] <drmeister> Sorry, I forgot to mention that the network connection for my brand new Ubuntu install within VirtualBox is not working. No urls are being resolved.
[19:21] <certain> i am not trying to turn you away from god
[19:21] <iceroot_> tsygrl: do the same with the package "postfix"
[19:22] <iceroot_> tsygrl: and maybe try "--purge"
[19:22] <majorka> Hey guys, any problem with netbeans ?!? 7.0.1 7.1.2 and 7.3.1 seems to having some problem with the new java update.
[19:22] <certain> justice\\\\\\\
[19:23] <b0x> hi, im trying to install ubuntu 13.04, but i always get a dirty disk/faulty drive error just after choosing the install or manually setting up partitions
[19:23] <b0x> i have checked my internal hdd, it is fine
[19:23] <b0x> i have also tried both installing from cd and usb flash drive
[19:24] <b0x> i want to dual boot windows 8, and its running in efi mode, so im using the uefi installer
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> b0x, Do you have an allocated space for the install?
[19:25] <sncs> Hi all, can someone help me out with a very strange problem I seem to be having
[19:25] <b0x> yes, ive got a 100gb partition
[19:25] <daftykins> sncs: ask away
[19:25] <b0x> the installer formats the partition and does copy some files
[19:25] <b0x> then fails
[19:25] <sncs> Seems that whenever I ping6 a host which isnt IPv6 it routes to local
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> sncs, Maybe if you describe it to the channel.
[19:26] <sncs> # ping6 google.com
[19:26] <sncs> PING google.com(ee-in-x8b.1e100.net) 56 data bytes
[19:26] <sncs> 64 bytes from ee-in-x8b.1e100.net: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=4.98 ms
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> b0x, You should resize windows with its partitioner first.
[19:26] <sncs> root@optimus:/var/www/tajtickets.nl/log# ping6 microsoft.com
[19:26] <sncs> PING microsoft.com(optimus.arconnect.nl) 56 data bytes
[19:26] <sncs> 64 bytes from optimus.arconnect.nl: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.037 ms
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin > sncs
[19:26] <painless> hi all, any kind of strong ubuntu guy in here? athero wireless? bad connection?
[19:26] <sncs> optimus.arconnect.nl is my server name
[19:26] <sncs> my bad wilee
[19:27] <iceroot_> sncs: 1. use pastebin 2. dont run a root-shell
[19:27] <iceroot_> sncs: 3. dont host a server when you are using a root-shell all the time
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> sncs, No biggie you just want all the info compacted for easy access
[19:28] <sncs> yeah i know running root is bad, im messing around with the configs, saves me have to sudo all the time
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> painless, The channel works with you stating the actual issues to it.
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> sncs, very bad habit and can screw up permissions, get used to the password.
[19:29]  * sncs logs on via normal user
[19:29] <sncs> :)
[19:29] <b0x> wilee-nilee
[19:29] <b0x> i have resized the windows partition already
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> b0x, With?
[19:29] <painless> wilee-nileensorry, what do you mean?
[19:29] <b0x> gparted
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> !details | painless
[19:30] <sncs> the main problem is why does my server think that any host which doesnt have AAAA record is itself
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> b0x, Have you run windows so it does its auto-chdsk and all is good there?
[19:30] <b0x> as i said, the partition exists, when i retry the installation ubuntu prompts to 'reinstall' rather than clean install/dual boot
[19:31] <tsygrl> iceroot_: thanks - going to stuff my configz into git before i do too much more this time ;-)
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> b0x, YOur not answering questions and using your own conclusions, it is not help you actually want, best of luck.
[19:32] <b0x> yes ive ran chkdsk
[19:32] <b0x> also a surface scan/sector scan of the hdd
[19:34] <painless> wilee-nilee: sorry, but wrote the issue for lots of times lately, here we go:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller (rev 05)
[19:34] <painless> 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[19:34] <us0r> hello, I'm trying to connect my eserver running ubuntu 10.04 to the web through a netgear n600 dual band router that is connected to a wall jack. I get a strong internet connection to a windows computer close by but when i run the ethernet cable from the router to the server across the room i get nothing. any thoughts on what i am doing wrong? thanks
[19:34] <painless> not working except 2 meters away
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> painless, Best I can do is link you here. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=AR9485
[19:35] <painless> thanks man, checking it out
[19:37] <painless> wilee-nilee, yuo just have googled it, i did for a year, nothing, i am desperate
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> painless, Not sure but adding weal signal to that search might help.
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> weak*
[19:37] <painless> did it, did it
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> painless, We are all desperate for something, I said this is the best I can do, this is free help, if you want better answers go to the right service.
[19:39] <b0x> wilee-nilee: running chkdsk again, volume bitmap issues, fixing now
[19:39] <sncs> And since non existant AAAA IPv6 hosts resolve to localhost, all queries that need to go to an outside server go to the local server
[19:39] <sncs> and scripts fail :S
[19:39] <painless> <wilee-nilee, yoou are not the right person to tell me me to abandon it, i am o linux since 2003 :D, just seeking for the right guys to help me
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> !attitude | painless
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> did not say I was
[19:40] <painless> <wilee-nilee no problem, i understand that, why are you taking it some kind of personally
[19:40] <sncs> soon as i ifdown eth1 (ipv6 interface) everything works like a charm
[19:41] <sncs> but then no IPv6 traffic.. :S
[19:41] <painless> i am just trying to get ssome answers
[19:41] <painless> sorry to bother you
[19:41] <b0x> painless
[19:41] <b0x> isnt something like the decibel setting?
[19:41] <b0x> or power?
[19:42] <painless> no
[19:42] <painless> it is about the driver
[19:43] <Cyrax> usr13: I installed now version 12.. the one who gave me the link.. but it only gave me the terminal.. what shall I do now?
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, This a server or desktop?
[19:46] <Cyrax> it didnt get me into desktop at all.. jsut the terminal
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, Did you download the desktop or sever iso for your virtualbox install?
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> server
[19:47] <painless> box: it is about the drivers, by some reason(we discussed with some of my ubuntu friends), it is not just keeping the good stuff  and trying make it better, it takes out some good stuff sand keeps going on...why so?
[19:48] <Cyrax> wilee-nilee: the file from the link he gave me is called ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, You might check the ISO's md5sum, vbox uses its own drivers in general, there may be a problem there but checking the iso is a good start.
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | Cyrax
[19:51] <OerHeks> painless a simple google search learn  that your atheros supports only Single Band (no G/N) http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k
[19:52] <painless> DerHerks so what? do not see any issue here?
[19:52] <Cyrax> wilee-nilee: i dont understand this :(
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, And can you explain what you do not understand, or should I guess. ;)
[19:53] <aldobr> hi all
[19:53] <Cyrax> i dont understand what u explained and i dont evne understand y I can't sue version 12.. it goes fine with version 9
[19:53] <Cyrax> *use
[19:54] <painless> OerHeks, sir, i had a very good quality until i have upgraded to 13.04.. i tried everything...
[19:54] <aldobr> i want to run a program that i downloaded, its a command line tool, the file is there, the permissions are right but when i type ./do-install i get file not found error
[19:54] <bekks> Cyrax: Ubuntu version 9 isnt supported anymore.
[19:54] <painless> OerHeks it did work on 12th one
[19:54] <aldobr> how can bash return file not found for a file that appears on ls ?
[19:54] <bekks> aldobr: Depends on your check.
[19:54] <Cyrax> well.. at least that works fine for me.. but version 12 i can't evne get it to work.. the one who gave me the download link,. i only got to terminal only
[19:55] <TJ-> aldobr: easily :)
[19:55] <aldobr> omg
[19:55] <aldobr> a light turned on on my head
[19:55] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, That makes two of us, so far you have vaguely described nothing but a terminal, this could be due to a handful of varibles, all we can do is to start knocking them out, so I suggest checking the iso first for a good download..
[19:55] <aldobr> what happens if the file has a shebang line and the interpreter is not there ?
[19:55] <aldobr> does bash say file not found ?
[19:55] <OerHeks> painless, oke i did not get that part, was working before upgrade.
[19:56] <painless> OerHeks yep
[19:56] <TJ-> aldobr: makes sense doesn't it?
[19:56] <aldobr> hm
[19:56] <aldobr> i will check that
[19:56] <aldobr> thanks
[19:56] <Cyrax> Would u b so kindly help me with it, wilee-nilee? would b really helpful..maybe its wrong bit version
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> Cyrax, I was helping, but now I'm done, others will be better with this, best of luck. ;)
[19:57] <OerHeks> painless, i find an simular problem with 12.10 > nohwcrypt=1 http://askubuntu.com/questions/245826/network-card-atheros-problem-ubuntu-12-10
[19:57] <Cyrax> Who else are willing to help me here?
[19:57] <painless> OerHeks more, i tried all the net tricks like turning down the power saving mode and stuff.. my kernel is the latest..
[19:58] <painless> OerHeks, did that, for 100 times man :)
[19:59] <painless> OerHeks it did help before 13 but it doesn't
[20:00] <foofoobar> Hi. I'm trying to pass data from arecord to sox. "arecord -f cd foo.wav" and then using it via "sox foo.wav .." works, but not with a pipe
[20:01] <foofoobar> I tried this: arecord -f cd -t wav | sox - -t wav -r 16000 -b 16 -c 1 rec_tmp2.flac vad reverse vad reverse lowpass -2 2500
[20:01] <foofoobar> I get the error: sox FAIL formats: can't open input  `-': WAVE: RIFF header not found
[20:01] <foofoobar> Any ideas?
[20:03] <painless> foofooba,sorry, not that advanced, but i think that it  is about the permission of the files or something
[20:05] <abc456> hi
[20:06] <daaku> i've got a static network setup which works for the most part, but i need to run "sudo ip route add default via 192.168.100.1" after boot to get the network to work. is there an appropriate way to get this happen as part of the setup from /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:07] <ikonia> daaku: why don't you manage this through network manager, as it's designed ?
[20:07] <ikonia> daaku: remove all the content from the /etc/network/interfaces file that you've added and manage it through network manager, as designed
[20:08] <daaku> ikonia: this is a headless container without a gui, not sure if that matters and i haven't used network manager before
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> abc456, HI, do you have a support issue?
[20:08] <ikonia> daaku: is it running ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop ?
[20:08] <abc456> yes
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> abc456, Excellent, tell the channel and maybe help is available. ;)
[20:09] <daaku> ikonia: it was setup using debootstrap
[20:09] <abc456> i am using debian, but i cant write in #debian, but i think this question is for linux general
[20:09] <abc456> i installed the nvidia driver, now i want to change the resolution to "1920x1200" which is not available in the nvidia-settings, how can i change it per hand?
[20:09] <ikonia> daaku: that doesn't answer my question
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> abc456, YOU would need ##linux then this is ubuntu support, and you can ask debial to remove whay=tever blocks.
[20:10] <abc456> in #linux i cant send to channel too
[20:10] <drmeister> I just installed Ubuntu on VirtualBox - I have an internet connection but no DNS - has anyone seen this before?
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> abc456, Debian might reqire you being registered with freenode not sure really.
[20:11] <iceroot_> !register | abc456
[20:11] <sncs> aha after much searching.. does anyone know how to disable IPv6 in PHP/Curl?
[20:11] <daaku> ikonia: i'm not sure how to answer that question i guess. it's running precise
[20:11] <abc456> strange, last time i could write to the channel
[20:11] <ikonia> daaku: why did you not just do a normal install ?
[20:12] <daaku> ikonia: i used lxc-create with the ubuntu script to create a container, my first ubuntu container, so i guess it was the "normal" install from my perspective :)
[20:12] <wilee-nilee> abc456, Maybe the isp your on has been banned...etc hard to say, but I would get there help, #freenode can help.
[20:12] <Cyrax> I might give up on using ubuntu on virtualbox.. can't get any version to work exept the old version 9
[20:12] <abc456> maybe its beceuase i am with root acount in irc?
[20:12] <ikonia> daaku: bottom line, add a default gateway to the interfaces file then
[20:13] <morshed> sncs: >>>/join ##php
[20:13] <bekks> Cyrax: Version 9 isnt supported anymore, and Ubuntu up to 13.10 works fine in vbox.
[20:13] <ikonia> Cyrax: could you expand more on "can't get it to work"
[20:13] <ikonia> Cyrax: what's the actual problem
[20:14] <sncs> morshed: thanks
[20:14] <Cyrax> idk how to explain.. sorry. i try to install ubuntu .. well tried to install ubuntu 11,12 nad 13.. and somehow i can't get it to work.. idk what
[20:14] <ikonia> Cyrax: please explain "can't get it to work"
[20:14] <Cyrax> i am able to install it,but it doesnt get me into the desktop of ubuntu
[20:14] <ikonia> Cyrax: describe the problem
[20:14] <ikonia> Cyrax: what does it do ?
[20:15] <Cyrax> it only get me to the terminal only
[20:15] <abc456> ok it worked
[20:15] <ikonia> can you see the terminal now ?
[20:15] <daaku> ikonia: makes sense, i have "gateway 192.168.100.1" (https://gist.github.com/daaku/f1d6872bc1718f52a4fb) but i still need to manually add the route
[20:15] <Cyrax> i did,but since it didnt work,i removed it.. now i try install version 13 and see
[20:16] <ikonia> daaku: you need a default gateway
[20:16] <bekks> Cyrax: You didnt specify "didnt work" yet. What does it do? Refuse to work, drinks beer all the time, sits on your couch?
[20:16] <ikonia> daaku: according to that pastebin that should add a default route
[20:17] <daaku> ikonia: that's what i was expecting too
[20:17] <Cyrax> b serious.. its annoying when i can't get it to work.. let me jsut install version 13 and see how it goes
[20:18] <bekks> Cyrax: I am serious. What does "didnt work" mean? Specify it please.
[20:18] <bekks> !details | Cyrax
[20:18] <ikonia> daaku: thats very odd, that should add fine
[20:19] <Cyrax> I am trying to explain as best as i can.. sorry if i can't explain good enough
[20:20] <ikonia> daaku: ahhh I see the problem
[20:20] <ikonia> daaku: you eed to add "eth0" to the auto line
[20:20] <ikonia> put "auto eth0" above the iface eth0 inet static line
[20:20] <Cyrax> Now i install ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso .. i tell u how it goes
[20:21] <usr13> Cyrax: What did you install last time?
[20:21] <icelite> sahhi all
[20:21] <Cyrax> Can't remember.. there has been so many i installed idk wich one..
[20:21] <daaku> ikonia: didn't help
[20:21] <usr13> Cyrax: (I think I saw you asking some questions before.)
[20:21] <ikonia> daaku: can you pastebin me your current interfaces file
[20:22] <daaku> ikonia: i think the ubuntu network setup isn't kicking in and the lxc is setting up the network
[20:22] <daaku> ikonia: https://gist.github.com/daaku/f8b1594ba5051c6dab24
[20:23] <daaku> ikonia: running "ubuntu@pvm01:~$ sudo ifup eth0" returns "RTNETLINK answers: File exists"
[20:23] <baegle1> All of the suddent, Flash is just failing left and right in Firefox. Happened pretty much right after a routine package update
[20:23] <daaku> ikonia: running "sudo ifdown eth0" returns "ifdown: interface eth0 not configured"
[20:23] <Cyrax> Ok,i installed ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso .. this is what I got: This Kernet requires an x86-64 CPU,but only detected an i686 CPU. Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU
[20:23] <baegle1> Anyone experiencing this?
[20:24] <daaku> ikonia: even though "ip addr" shows eth0 to be configured
[20:24] <Cyrax> *kernel
[20:24] <ikonia> Cyrax: your installing 64bit on a 32bit machine
[20:24] <guntbert> daaku: auto eth0   on a separate line
[20:24] <daaku> guntbert: doh, let me try that
[20:24] <Cyrax> oh crap. sorry for the word. i didnt know what bit it was.. thanks.. i try 32
[20:24] <usr13> Cyrax: Looks as though you need x86, (32bit).
[20:25] <daaku> guntbert: no change with that
[20:25] <Cyrax> usr: would u b so kindly help find that one?
[20:26] <usr13> Cyrax: Yes.  Do you want 12.04 LTS?
[20:26] <Cyrax> latest version
[20:26] <Cyrax> doesnt matter 12.04 or 13
[20:26] <icelite> hi all
[20:26] <usr13> Cyrax: 12.04 is the latest LTS, (which is what I use).
[20:27] <usr13> LTS | Cyrax
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> guys, the !permissions factoid brings no help -- i'm unable to delete or chown, chmod a hidden .Trash folder on this external USB - ls -la shows it is owned by [me] but it says 'permission denied', even with sudo - hints & tips?
[20:27] <guntbert> daaku: did you out the  auto eth0 immediately above the lines defining eth0? (they have to be consecutive if I remember correctly )
[20:27] <daaku> yep, i put it right before it
[20:28] <usr13> !lts | Cyrax
[20:28] <guntbert> daaku: sorry, I was not really following, just spotted the wrong sequence
[20:28] <Cyrax> That didnt give me any link.. i need 12.04 LTS x86 (32)
[20:28] <daaku> guntbert: np, thanks for trying
[20:28] <xpot> Question: how do I fix this? "Dropping incompatible voice frame on SIP/100056-00000001 of format ulaw since our native format has changed to (alaw)" Asterisk 11.5
[20:29] <usr13> Cyrax: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=lts
[20:29] <Pici> xpot: You'd probably have better luck by asking in #asterisk
[20:29] <adknight87> How do I configure gdm I just updated to 12.10 and x won't start
[20:29] <budmang> no matter what I cant get a 12.04 kernel to downgrade, Ive updated the grub, update-grub, see the files get updated, but it simply will not boot.
[20:30] <Martin[3]> one doesn't simply boot
[20:30] <xpot> Pici: I thoughts that was where I was... oops ;)
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> budmang, Have you tried all the kernels in the grub boot menu?
[20:33] <budmang> wilee-nilee: its a remote server with no kvm, though Im sure it would work if manually selected.
[20:33] <budmang> I need to to use the old kernel as default.
[20:34] <blazemore> budmang: Why not just uninstall the other kernels entirely?
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> budmang, Sure, be sure to be detailed in your issue.
[20:34] <javatexan> anyone know of an accurate keyboard mapping for macbook pro?  delete key not work in thunderbird among other things  ;)
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> javatexan, This a ubuntu installation?
[20:35] <budmang> wilee-nilee: ? which details am I missing or do you need? I've even removed all kernels expect the running one, and the old one I want.
[20:35] <javatexan> wilee-nilee: yes ubuntu 13.04
[20:35] <javatexan> unity looks nice btw :)
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> budmang, I need none, however it took a prompt to get that is is remote and that you have to have a specific kernel, had that been there to begin with I would not even have responded.
[20:36] <javatexan> wish I could disable the 3 finger behavior of this touchpad.  Look down every once in a while to see I am in another program...hahaha
[20:36] <budmang> wilee-nilee: ahh I see sorry about that.
[20:39] <FireBeard> hello
[20:41] <daaku> i guess rc.local is the solution for now :/
[20:41] <wushu> hey, my apple keyboard is acting funky with ubuntu 12.04 lts. cant figure out how to get brackets or curly brackets. does anyone know if there is an easy fix for this?
[20:42] <FireBeard> [({ ?
[20:42] <Cyrax> Does it exist any 64-bit virtualbox? :)
[20:42] <wushu> FireBeard: can do () but not the other ones
[20:43] <FireBeard> have you tried changing the keyboard language?
[20:44] <Guest27199> evening
[20:44] <wushu> FireBeard: yeah the layout is norwegian, but i have tried english. still the same issue
[20:45] <budmang> wilee-nilee: I put a hold, on the kernel verision etc.. I cant find out how it wont downgrade..
[20:46] <FireBeard> maybe try another keyboard then
[20:47] <richwestcoast> Ubuntu is better than Linus
[20:49] <IRCo> hi
[20:53] <djapo> how can i delete ifb0 interface it was created while i was trying to masquerade i no longer needed and would like to delete it
[20:55] <linuxliam> how stable is the 3.10 kernel and is there any major need to update to it from debs
[20:55] <holstein> !13.10 | linuxliam
[20:55] <ikonia> 3.10 kernel is not part of an ubuntu release yet
[20:56] <linuxliam> i know but its listed on kernel.org as stable
[20:56] <ikonia> linuxliam: why do you want it ?
[20:56] <ikonia> linuxliam: what's wrong the with kernel ubuntu provides ?
[20:56] <linuxliam> was wondering if i'd gain any performance even if its minor
[20:57] <ikonia> linuxliam: bigger release numbers do not mean better performance
[20:57] <linuxliam> i know
[20:57] <holstein> linuxliam: 13.10 is not released yet.. you are free and encouraged to manually update to whatever kernel you like.. that will not be officially supported here either
[20:57] <ikonia> linuxliam: is here anything in the release notes that says it will improve performance for your hardware ?
[20:57] <ikonia> linuxliam: if you "know" why are you wondering if it will give you better performance if there is nothing to suggest it will
[20:58] <ikonia> linuxliam: you're willing to break ubuntu support/compatability for a fantasy possibility of better performance?
[20:58] <linuxliam> that would be considered testing
[20:58] <linuxliam> ;)
[20:58] <FireBeard> Ubu now only has 9 months of support left per every non-LTS versions, great
[20:58] <ikonia> linuxliam: no, it's not testing, it's just random
[20:59] <FireBeard> nobody still installs it
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> linuxliam  if you want to test it, you need not ask questions here
[20:59] <ikonia> FireBeard: what ?
[20:59] <TJ-> linuxliam: 3.10 fixes quite a few driver bugs, including very slow Intel 4965 802.11n WIFi, so it can improve things dramatically. It is also supported as an upgrade via the linux-current package series, for 12.04 and others
[20:59] <holstein> linuxliam: test what you like.. you are, as i said, free to and encouraged to. but its not supported here
[20:59] <ikonia> !info linux-current
[20:59] <FireBeard> ikonia: read up
[20:59] <ikonia> FireBeard: read up what ?
[20:59] <FireBeard> 9 months per release
[20:59] <ikonia> FireBeard: we know....
[20:59] <FireBeard> it's ridiculous
[20:59] <ikonia> FireBeard: then don't use it
[21:00] <FireBeard> I've been using it for many years
[21:00] <holstein> linuxliam: AFAIK there are "dailies" of 13.10 you could try live to see the kernel on your hardware
[21:00] <syntroPi> any known recent updates broke ssh port forwarding? i cant use it anymore...
[21:00] <FireBeard> this caught us all by surprise
[21:00] <ikonia> FireBeard: not really, it was announced a while ago,
[21:00] <TJ-> linuxliam: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Release/Rolling
[21:01] <FireBeard> ikonia: a few months before at the most
[21:01] <holstein> FireBeard: you are free and ecouraged to support whatever release manually you want for as long as you like
[21:01] <ikonia> FireBeard: yes,
[21:01] <FireBeard> holstein: not trying ti make a scene
[21:01] <FireBeard> just an observation
[21:01] <ikonia> FireBeard: then stop talking about it
[21:01] <FireBeard> as a long time UBU user
[21:02] <ikonia> FireBeard: we know the support policy, you pointing it out again changes nothing
[21:02] <linuxliam> im not massivley tech savy just wanted to know what the 3.10 kernel improves overall in lamens terms
[21:02] <ikonia> linuxliam: bottom line - you don't need it
[21:02] <zykotick9> ikonia: +1
[21:02] <ikonia> linuxliam: trust the ubuntu developers to push out the best supported kernels they can to allow your machine to function and maintain supportability
[21:02] <FireBeard> ok
[21:02] <k1l_> linuxliam: they say it with every new kernel version
[21:02] <TJ-> linuxliam: The main thing is adding support for newer harder to older releases, as well as some bug-fixes
[21:03] <ikonia> linuxliam: unless it fixes a specific problem to you, use the ubuntu packages
[21:03] <ikonia> linuxliam: more so if you're not tech savy as you said earlier
[21:03] <k1l_> linuxliam: if you want stableness just wait untill the final ubuntu release is done.
[21:04] <FireBeard> we all know the policy, we all hate it [so it seems], but nobody does anything about it
[21:04] <ikonia> FireBeard: please don't put words in our mouths
[21:04] <ikonia> FireBeard: no-one said we hate it
[21:04] <ikonia> FireBeard: if you don't like it, don't use the distro
[21:04] <ikonia> FireBeard: you don't seem to grasp the "stop talking about it" concept
[21:05] <FireBeard> that's like saying: if you don't like the local water: stop drinking it, or stop flushing your toilet with it
[21:05] <FireBeard> I get the message tho
[21:05] <ikonia> FireBeard: it's nothing like saying that
[21:05] <ikonia> FireBeard: this is a choice technology with mulitple other choices
[21:05] <ikonia> FireBeard: the people who own the project have changed it's policy,
[21:05] <linuxliam> also one other thing what is causing Skype 4.2 to consistently crash in Ubuntu 13.04
[21:06] <ikonia> FireBeard: you have a choice a.) accept it b.) don't use it
[21:06] <djapo> im getting an  error  when i run systemctl status iptables; no such file or directory
[21:06] <holstein> FireBeard: or, use the LTS.. thats what its there for.. to provide a longer term
[21:06] <ikonia> djapo: uname -a please
[21:07] <FireBeard> ikonia: you are saying to either accept ANYTHING they enforce, or pack up my business and go elsewhere?
[21:07] <ikonia> FireBeard: not quite, but the bottom line is, canonical control and define the project
[21:07] <felon> Question: if edid cant detect my monitor and im stuck in 4:3 / cant i look my monitor up ver/refresh and all that, and fill in as needed in my xorg.conf and it should work while running the current nvidia driver ?
[21:07] <Cyrax> Whoever gave me the link to x86 (32bit),, it didnt work.. it still got me to the terminal only
[21:07] <holstein> FireBeard: nothing is being "enforced".. its just not being supported.. cost and resources have been reviewed, and the policy is changing
[21:07] <ikonia> Cyrax: do you have the terminal there now ?
[21:07] <Cyrax> yes
[21:08] <Cyrax> only terminal
[21:08] <ikonia> Cyrax: can you type "id" and tell me what it says please ?
[21:08] <holstein> FireBeard: the LTS's are supporteing *longer* on the desktop than before (currently)
[21:08] <Cyrax> sure
[21:08] <FireBeard> never mind, you sheep keep defending Canonical, and keep sucking Mark's dick
[21:10] <guntbert> djapo: what are you trying to do?
[21:10] <syntroPi> Can someone give me a hint why my ssh tunnel of RDP port would not work? all i get is this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5978741/
[21:10] <Cyrax> uid=1000(blade) gid=1000(blade) groupes=1000(blade),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30
[21:10] <linuxliam> whats the best way to put forward ideas to ubuntu devs?
[21:10] <Cyrax> *groups
[21:10] <ikonia> linuxliam: such as?
[21:10] <TJ-> linuxliam: via the ubuntu-devel mailing list
[21:10] <ikonia> Cyrax: ok, great, so it is actually installed, it's just not starting Xorg
[21:10] <holstein> !wishlist
[21:11] <failmaster> hey guys, i have a problem switching luks passphrase auth to key file based for root fs, details: http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization anyone?hey guys, i have a problem switching luks passphrase auth to key file based for root fs, details: http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization anyone?
[21:11] <holstein> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu/Wishlist linuxliam as well
[21:11] <Cyrax> ikonia: So what I do?
[21:11] <ikonia> Cyrax: I guess need to work out why xorg isn't starting
[21:12] <Cyrax> ikonia: maybe wrong version of virtualbox?
[21:12] <ikonia> Cyrax: why would you say that ?
[21:12] <felon> Question: if edid cant detect my monitor and im stuck in 4:3 / cant i look my monitor up ver/refresh and all that, and fill in as needed in my xorg.conf and it should work while running the current nvidia driver ?
[21:12] <ikonia> Cyrax: what is the OS that virtualbox is running on ?
[21:12] <TJ-> failmaster: For it to work you'll need to include a script in the initrd, I forget it's name now, but I seem to recall that there's an update-initrd hook to install one automatically for key-files nowadays (when I first did it, had to write my own)
[21:12] <linuxliam> ikonia: adding a quicklist to "Displays" to allow for better muilti monitor mangement i.e easy switching display output
[21:12] <Cyrax> Ubuntu is on virtualbox
[21:12] <javatexan> I changed using Xmodmap and ccsm if anyone cares ;)
[21:13] <ikonia> Cyrax: what os is virtualbox running on
[21:13] <javatexan> works pretty well now
[21:13] <Cyrax> How do i check that?
[21:13] <ikonia> Cyrax: what OS is on your PC ?
[21:13] <Cyrax> Windows 8 64 bit
[21:13] <ikonia> Cyrax: ok, so virtualbox is running on Windows 8
[21:13] <Cyrax> yes
[21:14] <ikonia> Cyrax: when you setup a virtal machine, you configure it with virtual hardware, what video card did you set it up to use ?
[21:14] <Cyrax> ikonia: no idea
[21:14] <ikonia> Cyrax: finding out is a good move
[21:14] <failmaster> TJ-, yeah, i remember that some of my previous setups with such configuration required one, at first it was like 3rd party script years ago, later it was one shipped with cryptsetup, but recently with 12.04 it used to work like this, however, thank you for the tip!
[21:14] <Cyrax> I have no idea how
[21:14] <ikonia> Cyrax: looking in the virtualbox settings ?
[21:15] <Cyrax> u mena adapter type?
[21:15] <Cyrax> *mean
[21:15] <ikonia> Cyrax: yes
[21:16] <Cyrax> Adapter type: Intel PRO/1000 MT Desktop (82540EM)
[21:16] <failmaster> TJ-, but hey, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/552658 take a look at this, whole this subject is a mess and no one really cares =)
[21:16] <ikonia> Cyrax: did you install the ubuntu desktop ISO ?
[21:17] <Cyrax> ikonia: ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[21:17] <TJ-> failmaster: I'm reading your Q... let me think about it
[21:17] <gordonjcp> failmaster: only mad people who love having the ability to lose all their data forever without any user intervention use disk encryption
[21:17] <Cyrax> the one who gave me,had numner 32 in it,so i guess that was 32 bit
[21:17] <Cyrax> *number
[21:18] <failmaster> gordonjcp, any arguments for this?
[21:18] <ikonia> Cyrax: that image should install xorg and all the display stuff you need,
[21:18] <failmaster> or it's just your subjective concerns?
[21:18] <gordonjcp> failmaster: well, everyone that uses it seems to have terrible problems, constantly
[21:18] <ikonia> gordonjcp: agreed
[21:18] <Cyrax> ikonia: Can u find a way so i can really install it for the os I got? cuz i have tried all day and no luck
[21:18] <ikonia> the ammount of people who really need it are %1
[21:18] <gordonjcp> failmaster: and if your drive starts to go bad, *all* your data is gone
[21:19] <ikonia> the ammount of people want it because they think they "need" encyption to stop their silly pictures being seen %99
[21:19] <gordonjcp> failmaster: one single bad sector, and that's it - gone, forever
[21:19] <ikonia> the ammount of people who make a mess of their machine with it and have no idea how to manage it %99.9
[21:19] <gordonjcp> ikonia: oh totally
[21:19] <failmaster> gordonjcp, no actually, it helped me several times, stability is a consensus as always, depending on the context someone makes a choice
[21:19] <failmaster> and saying that it's wrong "because, what if..."
[21:20] <failmaster> sorry for my english
[21:20] <Cyrax> So from adapter type.. is it wrong virtualbox version for the ubuntu?
[21:20] <ikonia> Cyrax: no
[21:20] <TJ-> failmaster: I've just referred back to an article I wrote about it back in the 'Hardy' days. Much of it is still relevant; check this bit out in particular, I think it helps address your Q http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/Ubuntu/HardyEncryptedLVM#EncryptedDiskConfiguration
[21:20] <Cyrax> Then idk whats wrong.. idk how to fix it either
[21:20] <ikonia> Cyrax: the problem is Xorg is not starting up, xorg is what makes your desktop display
[21:21] <failmaster> TJ-, many thanks for your attention!
[21:21] <Cyrax> So how do i get this Xorg with it?
[21:21] <ikonia> Cyrax: depends why it's failing.
[21:22] <failmaster> Cyrax, is it possible to show us xorg logs?
[21:22] <Cyrax> how do i check it?
[21:23] <failmaster> !xorg.log
[21:23] <failmaster> whatever, it's all common stuff https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Xorg_problems
[21:24] <failmaster> Cyrax,  as it written in there, server log file(s): /var/log/Xorg.*.log
[21:24] <failmaster> but most probably grep EE will point to the problems directly
[21:25] <usr13> Cyrax: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:26] <budmang> Can anyone help me downgrade a kernel? 12.04 ubuntu. Ive tried everything. no matter what it simply will not boot with the older kernel. Always picks the newest latest one.
[21:26] <nukleuz> Anyone here that could help me out with a server that wont boot? :)
[21:26] <usr13> Cyrax: As failmaster points out, you might try:  grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:26] <usr13> nukleuz: Sure.
[21:26] <TJ-> budmang: When the system being booting hold down Shift key to access the GRUB bootloader menu, then choose "Previous Versions" sub-menu
[21:27] <sinkensabe> Hi, I cant get vim to reinstall properly. How can I restore etc/vim/vimrc to default settings i.e. as when ubuntu is installed ?
[21:27] <usr13> budmang: Is the kernel installe3d?
[21:27] <usr13> *installed*
[21:27] <budmang> TJ, it is a remote system, if I have the tech do that it works, i guess then I could remove the other kernel... but there should be a way just to make it default no?
[21:27] <Cyrax> How do i copy and paste the log from the ubuntu on virtualbox?
[21:27] <budmang> usr13: yes the kernel I want is installed.
[21:28] <usr13> ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-*list  #First see what is on the list.
[21:30] <syntroPi> can someone help me tunneling RDP port through ssh connection? It worked before, i did not change anything and now it stopped working for some reason i have to find out... i really need this working soon
[21:30] <nukleuz> Superb :) The thing is that I followed a guide on how to remove old kernels from AskUbuntu; I considered the guide as safe, since several users confirmed that it worked. But it resulted in a system without a kernel; and several packages god unintalled. This is a RAID setup where /boot is /dev/md0 (sba1, sdb1) anf /dev/md1 is (sdb3, sda3). When i lost all my files I had to restore my server from a sync (rsync)
[21:30] <nukleuz> backup that was made erlier that day; and now the server wont boot at all. I have updated grub, and tried out everything that I could find on Google/Ask Ubuntu etc. I have used chroot to access the servers filesystem :)
[21:31] <budmang> usr13: it just outputs the kernel I want and the one running
[21:32] <budmang> nukleuz: the os/data/boot is on the raid too?
[21:32] <budmang> does it boot into that mini shell/prompt?
[21:32] <Cyrax> failmaster: here is the photo of the log: http://puu.sh/40t6h.png
[21:33] <usr13> budmang: Is the system running now?
[21:33] <budmang> usr13: yes.
[21:33] <budmang> I just did that LS command you gave me on it.
[21:33] <budmang> I even tried an apt HOLD on the kernel/version
[21:34] <usr13> budmang: I suppose one easy way is to remove the one you are using now and do a reinstall of the other one.
[21:34] <budmang> can I remove the one that is active/inuse?
[21:34] <usr13> (the one you want to use.)
[21:35] <usr13> budmang: There may be a better way, (and I welcome additional input), so......
[21:35] <nukleuz> budmang: that mini shell / promt? When i chroot? Yes. And commands works well, thats how updated grub and removed som kernels when the filesystem was restored again.
[21:35] <Cyrax> So what does it mean on that photo, failmaster?
[21:35] <failmaster> Cyrax, here you go, there is no module for your virtual video adapter for some reason, you may want to continue investigate it reading about how it should be shipped, maybe ther is even package in target system repos
[21:35] <budmang> right nukleuz I have a raid ubuntu box does the same, we have to type a few things to get it booted up(I have not found the full fix for it yet).
[21:36] <Cyrax> I have windows 8 64 bit and my computer is new,so its nothing wrong with my computer
[21:36] <budmang> usr13: no I just mean can you remove the current in use kernel :)
[21:36] <budmang> I did not know that Im trying now.
[21:36] <syntroPi> why does my ssh tunnel not work at all? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5978741/
[21:36] <budmang> couple how toos say DO NOT remove this kernel(the one running).
[21:37] <failmaster> Cyrax, try switching to console like ctrl+alt+f1 for example, check out if internet connection could be configured and if yes, it would be easier to try to reinstall that virtualbox thing... guest-additions if i remember well
[21:37] <Cyrax> What if it was wrong version of virtualbox?
[21:37] <failmaster> Cyrax, i suspect that it should bring all that stuff including that module
[21:38] <usr13> budmang: Yes, far as I know.  You probably need to remove the linux-image-3.x.x as well is the linux-headers-3.x.x
[21:39] <usr13> budmang: Again, if anyone else has an alternative idea they can let us know....
[21:39] <budmang> Course. I just tried yours rebooting now :)
[21:40] <Cyrax> So how can i fix it? i really have no clue
[21:40] <usr13> budmang: Are you sure you can't fix what is wrong with the newer one?
[21:40] <Cyrax> Adn what is the newest version of virtualbox for windows 8 64 bit?
[21:40] <failmaster> Cyrax, google for it, it's not that hard actually, i would start from here http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#idp11306688
[21:41] <budmang> usr13: This is corporate BS. It must be downgraded to the current kernel of the other production machines.
[21:41] <syntroPi> budmang, i did this once like this "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ; sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev ; sudo mount -o bind /sys /mnt/sys ; sudo mount -t proc /proc /mnt/proc ; sudo chroot /mnt /bin/bash ; grub-install --force /dev/sda ; exit ; reboot"
[21:41] <syntroPi> from usb boot repair console
[21:41] <VSpike> Hi. I have 12.04, with precise backports enabled. Why do I have znc 0.206 instead of 1.0-2~ubuntu12.04.1 which https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/znc suggests?
[21:41] <budmang> synTax: yea ive repaired them before and appreciate your reply.. it just seems to be that one hardware raid one.
[21:42] <syntroPi> budmang, it was gpt on hw raid with mbr grub
[21:42] <Cyrax> nothing there about download link for latest and newest version of virtualbox
[21:42] <budmang> syntroPi: yes exactly..
[21:44] <Dr_Willis> VSpike:  not everthing gets back ported perhaps?  with znc specifically - i tend to use the source, to keep it as up to date as possible.
[21:44] <serocul> hello
[21:45] <serocul> support and help for backbox
[21:45] <usr13> serocul: Yes...?
[21:45] <serocul> channel backbox in irc
[21:45] <serocul> please
[21:46] <xkernel> I'm looking for app that allows team collaboration like desktop sharing with real time drawings
[21:46] <MonkeyDust> serocul  type /join #blackbox, it's not supported here
[21:46] <serocul> how i join
[21:46] <serocul> thank
[21:47] <usr13> serocul: http://irc.lc/autistici/backbox/
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> ah, back, not black
[21:48] <VSpike> Dr_Willis: yes, true. But that page does suggest backports should have that package version, unless I'm reading it wrong
[21:48] <usr13> serocul: On irc.autistici.org you should find channel  #backbox
[21:49] <felon> i did: gtf 1024 768 60, and i finally got a return of # 1024x768 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 47.70 kHz; pclk: 64.11 MHz
[21:49] <felon>   Modeline "1024x768_60.00"  64.11  1024 1080 1184 1344  768 769 772 795  -HSync +Vsync
[21:49] <ubuntnoob> anyone know how to fix repository information?
[21:49] <serocul> how connect i using xchat
[21:50] <Cyrac> virtualbox 4.2.16 is the newest,right?
[21:50] <felon> did i just get my HSync +Vsync ? that i can add in xorg.conf to get my 16:9 cause im stuck in 4:3 ?
[21:50] <felon> anyone ?
[21:50] <usr13> Cyrac: On what OS?
[21:50] <Cyrac> Windows 8 64 bit
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> VSpike:  from the liuttle ive used bacpoorts.. not a whole lot gets added to it. but i tend to stick to the latest releases  so rarely need backports
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> Cyrax  better ask in ##windows what soft is being used in windows
[21:51] <usr13> Cyrax: Looks like it is...
[21:52] <failmaster> TJ-, sorry for being a bit annoying, but the thing is... i assume that scenario which feeds the key is already shipped with cryptsetup, because in my case sdb1 unlocks flawlessly during boot for example without keyscript option, so the main issue as i see it - using 3rd party keyscript for this basic operation while having this option out-of-the-box already, so maybe you know by accident what makes it possible by default? =)
[21:52] <Cyrax> usr: just trying to reinstall virtualbox and see if the problem i ahve with ubuntu get fixed.. wich I hope
[21:52] <syntroPi> why does my ssh tunnel not work at all? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5978741/
[21:53] <Vivekananda> histo: if you are around and got a min I have a printing question. using lpr. Can I pm ?
[21:54] <failmaster> Cyrax, if you have read the official reference (the link i gave you last time) you should suspect that it won't fix by itself, because the problem is having guest-additions on target system installed, which didn't happen for some reason and when nothing special was done, this reason is mysterious enough to make a conclusion it won't go away by itself
[21:56] <scorp1us> anyone know what the package name is for QtQuick.Controls is?
[21:56] <ubuntnoob> Failed to load repository information, anyone know how to fix this?
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> ubuntnoob:  pastebin the apt-get update  output for the channel to see.. it could be the repo is down, or has bad info.
[21:58] <serocul> hello how conection
[21:58] <serocul> irc.autistici.org
[21:58] <guest_01> anyone know if mir will still retain x forwarding abilities of x
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> serocul:   the xchat homepage has some VERY well done starter guides and docs on how to use the client..   try /connect servername   or /server servername
[21:58] <TJ-> failmaster: Sorry... was out in the wheat fields with the Husky! Yes, by default cryptsetup installs the script from "/usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-top/cryptroot" into the initramfs. Take a look at the scripts below /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> !mir
[21:59] <failmaster> TJ-, many thanks
[21:59] <serocul> thanks i try
[22:00] <Kratisto78> I'm looking to ask a few questions about Ubuntu.  Is this the correct place?
[22:00] <usr13> Kratisto78: Yep
[22:01] <Kratisto78> I am running xubuntu on this computer but I just bought a lenovo S400 and I'm trying to put ubuntu on it but I am having trouble
[22:02] <usr13> Kratisto78: What seems to be the problem?
[22:02] <Kratisto78> The farthest I could get was using usb to boot I tried to click try linux before installing in grub but my screen goes black
[22:02] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | Kratisto78
[22:03] <Kratisto78> I'll check into that thankyou
[22:05] <failmaster> TJ-, however appears that cryptroot is the hook responsible for it, which throws a warning on initramfs-update while running it's checks against rootfs entry in crypttab that doesn't meet the condition if [ "$key" != "none" ] && [ -z "$KEYSCRIPT" ]; so it's none "none" due to the fact there is a key file mentioned, which somehow leads to unbootable system lol Many thanks TJ- i had to re-check it unfortunately... Thank you!
[22:06] <apb1963> So I just installed a brand new router.  I've got a windoze machine and a ubuntu box.  Windoze is fine, it's where I'm typing from now.  Ubuntu has no ethernet address whatsoever.  However, the router knows ubuntu's hostname so apparently it sees it.  I've tried service networking restart which gives an odd error, I've also tried rebooting.
[22:06] <TJ-> failmaster: From the docs, you do still need to provide the keyfile= part in crypttab
[22:06] <apb1963> Not sure where to go from here.
[22:06] <failmaster> TJ-, so basically i should give it a try - pointing keyscript option to cryptroot scenario?
[22:06] <apb1963> When I installed 12.04 LTS server yesterday, there was no network attached.
[22:07] <apb1963> So I'm guessing something didn't get configured properly I suppose.
[22:07] <TJ-> failmaster: See section 6 "Exotic key types" of /usr/share/doc/cryptsetup/README.initramfs.gz
[22:07] <histo> Vivekananda: I don't know much of anything about lpr
[22:07] <failmaster> TJ-, there is a sentence from there in http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization which make this part mysterious
[22:08] <failmaster> but it takes the script in case of non-rootfs device on boot =)
[22:08] <OerHeks> apb1963, this manual is a good start > https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[22:08] <failmaster> what a mess
[22:09] <apb1963> 12.04 ?
[22:09] <apb1963> close enough?
[22:09] <OerHeks> apb1963, should be the same i guess > https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[22:09] <apb1963> thank you
[22:10] <TJ-> failmaster: There's a script "crypto-usb-key.sh" attached to another of my crypt articles: http://tjworld.net/wiki/Linux/Ubuntu/HardyRAID5EncryptedLVM#EncryptedDiskConfiguration
[22:10] <histo> apb1963: check your cable
[22:11] <histo> apb1963: and on the ubuntu box sudo service networking restart    or restart the machine
[22:11] <Vivekananda> okay
[22:11] <TJ-> failmaster: I think the thing to understand is, if you provide the key-file name as an absolute path, and that path is mounted when cryptsetup runs, then no helper script is needed. If however you're using an encrypted rootfs, then it needs a helper script since by definition nothing except the initramfs is mounted - and you won't want to store the key-file in there!
[22:11] <Vivekananda> but would you know about writing demons
[22:12] <failmaster> TJ-, /boot is mounted on that stage
[22:12] <failmaster> TJ-, and non rootfs device gets unlocked successfully
[22:12] <TJ-> But you won't be storing the key-file in an unencrypted boot?
[22:13] <Kratisto78> ubottu: I tried adding the nomodeset this time I could see a small amount of purple stretched across the top and it looked like it was loading into ubuntu but eventually it just reset and reverted back to windows.  I just put nomodeset right after quiet and splash
[22:13] <failmaster> TJ-, i will because wherever i store it it's unencrypted, so boot in my case is removable physically
[22:13] <TJ-> failmaster: The docs say, when not providign absolute paths, cryptsetup script will look in certain pre-determined directories for the files
[22:13] <Kratisto78> guess i meant usr13
[22:14] <TJ-> failmaster: OK, that makes sense, if its a removable USB device.
[22:14] <Kratisto78> usr13: I tried adding the nomodeset this time I could see a small amount of purple stretched across the top and it looked like it was loading into ubuntu but eventually it just reset and reverted back to windows.  I just put nomodeset right after quiet and splash
[22:14] <failmaster> TJ-, that makes me sure i'm not the victim of evil-maid, that's why key is under /boot/key and i don't see the reason why it should be more complicated
[22:14] <apb1963> OK so I believe that eth0 never got configured/created, since ifconfig doesn't show anything but lo... so do I follow the "manual" method in the ... manual?  Or is there something else that will set it up for me?
[22:14] <histo> apb1963: ifconfig eth0 up
[22:14] <histo> apb1963: or ifup eth0
[22:15] <failmaster> TJ-, what is funny is that it actually worked on 12.04 2 months ago
[22:15] <usr13> Kratisto78: Is this a virtual machine install?
[22:15] <apb1963> no, that doesn't work.... there's no device
[22:15] <TJ-> failmaster: So, have you specified the absolute path to the key-file in crypttab whilst /boot is mounted then?
[22:15] <Kratisto78> usr13: Nope I want to wipe my windows off this eventually
[22:15] <histo> apb1963: or ip link set eth0 up
[22:15] <usr13> Kratisto78: So right now it's a Dual-Boot setup, right?
[22:16] <OerHeks> apb1963, on ubuntu server you need to set it up through the installationwizard, or manually after setup because you had no internet available.
[22:16] <failmaster> TJ-, yep, just /boot/key but hook just skips this entry with warning during update of initramfs-environment image
[22:16] <usr13> Kratisto78: Is it 12.04 or 13.04, or  ___________?
[22:16] <failmaster> TJ-, skips only for rootfs device
[22:16] <xkernel> I'm looking for app that allows team collaboration like desktop sharing with real time drawings
[22:17] <Kratisto78> usr13: Its only a windows install I'm trying to install ubuntu and I believe 13.04 but I can double check
[22:17] <apb1963> OerHeks: So I would follow the manual method on the page you gave me yes?
[22:17] <usr13> Kratisto78: Is it wubi?
[22:17] <histo> xkernel: there are plenty of colaboration apps. Search the software center or alternativeto.net
[22:17] <OerHeks> apb1963, yes, that would be fine
[22:18] <TJ-> failmaster: which version of Ubuntu is this? I'm reading the scripts for 13.04 right now but they could have changed
[22:18] <Kratisto78> usr13: No I didn't use that at all I just used a program to mount an ubuntu iso on a usb
[22:18] <usr13> Kratisto78: So  you didn't really "install" ubuntu yet, right?
[22:18] <failmaster> TJ-, 13.04 came up with this problem on freshly installed instance http://askubuntu.com/questions/330660/what-is-the-correct-way-to-use-key-file-luks-authorization
[22:18] <Kratisto78> usr13: no not yet
[22:19] <usr13> Kratisto78: So right now, your just trying to boot Ubuntu LiveUSB?
[22:19] <apb1963> ok histo's last command - ip link set eth0 up seems to have created the interface, as ifconfig recognizes it now
[22:19] <histo> apb1963: wasn't this system working previously?
[22:19] <Kratisto78> I just logged into windows and looked at the usb and wubi is something I can launch.  Do i try that?  And yes I'm just trying to boot into it using a live usb
[22:19] <apb1963> histo: no.  new install
[22:19] <apb1963> as of yesterday
[22:19] <SuperLag> grub seems different than what I remember it
[22:20] <SuperLag> How do you change which kernel boots, by default, if several are listed in the menu.lst file?
[22:20] <histo> apb1963: is this a server install  with no desktop?
[22:21] <apb1963> so eth0 shows up now.... but no ip4 address... there does seem to be an ip6 address... but my ISP only gives me ip4 afaik... plus now of course with the new router, I'm behind nat so my router is assigning ip4.... I think.
[22:21] <k1l_> SuperLag: for grub2 there is no menu.lst anymore.
[22:21] <histo> SuperLag: you shoulnd't have a menu.1st with grub2 you edit /etc/default/grub and after you make changes sudo update-grub
[22:21] <apb1963> histo: correct
[22:21] <histo> apb1963: then configure /etc/network/interfaces to put up your interface on boot and dhcp or use static whatever.
[22:21] <SuperLag> k1l_: well, that would do it, wouldn't it? :)
[22:21] <k1l_> SuperLag: see the wiki pages for grub2, read it and get used to the new script-style.
[22:21] <apb1963> k
[22:21] <usr13> SuperLag: /boot/grub/menu.lst. It has been replaced by /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
[22:22] <usr13> Kratisto78:  So, which ISO is it?  12.04 64bit?   12.04 32bit?  13.04 64bit?  13.04 32bit?  __________?
[22:22] <xqee> hello here is my problem, i want that script detect any video filetype not only mp4 so how i can solve this string? /home/user/mediass.sh $FPATH/*.mp4
[22:22] <John____> i have a question is it possible that i can use ufw on servers like ubuntu server?
[22:22] <failmaster> TJ-, just to make it clear, my steps where pretty simple - set it up with default passphrase auth for both hdds in system, after that leave the only keyslot for key file auth, so both devices have only 1 option - being unlocked with the key file, which works on boot only for non-rootfs device (any mount point but /)
[22:23] <usr13> John____: You probably just need to create a firewall-script
[22:23] <Kratisto78> usr13: I thought it was 13.04 64 bit but I'm not sure.  Is there anywhere on the usb i can check to confirm?
[22:23] <TJ-> failmaster: The code in the script is at lines 281-284 of /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-top/cryptroot
[22:23] <Cyrax> Even reinstall virtualbox and install ubuntu 12.04 LTS didnt help.. still it gets me only in terminal. I guess I need abit older version of ubuntu.. version 10 or 11
[22:24] <TJ-> failmaster: There has to be a key-script if there's a key-file, according to that code
[22:24] <histo> Cyrax: ubuntu boots fine in virtualbox
[22:24] <usr13> Kratisto78: Probably, not sure, but do you have the name of the ISO image file?
[22:24] <Cyrax> it wont get me in the desktop.. said something about Xorg.. idk.. but it only gets me into terminal only.. nothing else
[22:24] <xqee> can i just write like this /home/user/mediass.sh $FPATH/*.mp4, mkv, avi ?
[22:25] <Kratisto78> usr13: Oh yeah I believe this is the one I put on its ubuntu 13.04 desktop amd64
[22:26] <failmaster> TJ-, the only symptom that gives me start fro troubleshooting is cryptroot hook warning during `update-initramfs`, thank you, will give it a look, but... the fact it should be there is not defined according to manpages =) and the fact it works with non-root devices in system makes it even more frustrating, so it was a bug when it used to work liek this in 12.04 for rootfs device :D
[22:26] <Cyrax> histo: So what shall I do?
[22:27] <TJ-> failmaster: but /boot/ is mounted by then. It isn't mounted during initrd, is it?
[22:27] <histo> !md5sum | Cyrax
[22:27] <TJ-> GRUB loads the kernel and initrd image into memory from the /boot/ partition, but it isn't mounted in the initrd environment
[22:27] <Cyrax> I already checked that link.. i didnt understand any of it
[22:28] <failmaster> TJ-, if so, how comes that my sdb1 currently unlocks with key file?
[22:28] <apb1963> that was the ticket.  Thank you histo & OerHeks !
[22:28] <histo> Cyrax: check the howtomd5sum page
[22:29] <xqee> hello here is my problem, i want that script detect any video filetype not only mp4 so how i can solve this string? /home/user/mediass.sh $FPATH/*.mp4 | can i just write /home/user/mediass.sh $FPATH/*.mp4, mkv, avi ?
[22:29] <histo> Cyrax: you need to obtain the md5sum of your iso file and compair it to the md5sums on the ubuntu.com site to ensure your file matches
[22:29] <histo> xqee: [1,2,3] ?
[22:29] <Cyrax> ehm.. idk how.. please tell me how
[22:29] <Cyrax> i'm new to ubuntu
[22:30] <Wulframn> !md5sum | Cyrax
[22:30] <histo> Cyrax: are you in ubuntu or windows?
[22:30] <usr13> Kratisto78: Did you run a checksum on the ISO imaga?
[22:30] <xqee> histo i want script detect only avi, mp4 and mkv
[22:30] <histo> Wulframn: I tried that already. He can't understand the page.
[22:30] <histo> xqee: k
[22:30] <Wulframn> histo: My bad
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> xqee:  you will need to use a regular expression for the file.*whaterver* pattern   AND watch out for spaces in the file names.
[22:30] <Kratisto78> Nope not really sure what that is
[22:30] <Cyrax> I have windows 8 64 bit and running virtualbox on it.. i wnat to install ubuntu on virtualbox
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> xqee:  id suggest asking in bash and finding some tutorials on regular expressions
[22:31] <usr13> Kratisto78: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Md5sum
[22:31] <Jordan_U> xqee: What is your end goal?
[22:31] <Kratisto78> usr13: wait I just tried the nomodeset again and it randomly booted in
[22:31] <Kratisto78> usr13: should I just click install ubuntu 13.04?
[22:31] <xqee> Jordan_U if script find mkv, mp4 or avi it will create mediainfo in txt file
[22:32] <xqee> Jordan_U can handle that fow few file formats its working only for one
[22:32] <TJ-> failmaster: I don't know how much clearer I can say it: sdb1 is unlocked because it is mounted after the real rootfs has been unlocked, and at that point /boot/ has also been mounted because of the entry in /etc/fstab. At the point that that linux and initrd are running /boot/ is *not* mounted and therefore the key-file is not accessible. Also, the key-file for rootfs *needs* a helper script installing that'll 'cat' the key-file to stdout so it can be read by the
[22:32] <TJ-> script in local-top
[22:32] <Wulframn> Cyrax: You have a fresh virtual environment to work with?
[22:33] <Sharp1> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 and if I set up a hotcorner to switch workspaces in Unity Tweak Tool, it doesn't work after I log out and log in again. The settings stays the same in Unity Tweak Tool, but the corner does nothing. Does anyone have a solution?
[22:33] <usr13> Kratisto78: Go to the file you downloaded and run md5sum on it and google the result.
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> xqee:  for just 3 file types.. have it just repeate whatever command 3 times.. once for each pattern.
[22:33] <Cyrax> u mean java? on virtualbox or ubuntu?
[22:33] <trace30m> does fglrx work on newest ubuntu with an ATI HD4350 ?
[22:33] <histo> Cyrax: you need to use a windows application to verify the hash of your ubuntu iso
[22:33] <usr13> Kratisto78: md5sum ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso   #Wait for result and google it.
[22:33] <Ari-Yang> trace30m, fglrx is garbage ;/
[22:33] <trace30m> Ari-Yang: why?
[22:33] <Wulframn> Cyrax: Do you have a fresh virtualbox environment to work with? Or have you attempted to install Ubuntu in the environment?
[22:33] <Ari-Yang> trace30m, horrible 2d acceleration
[22:33] <histo> Cyrax: it should match this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[22:34] <usr13> Kratisto78: Oh wait.  You said it booted up?
[22:34] <failmaster> TJ-, so grub never mounts /boot ? =)
[22:34] <histo> xqee: I would ask in #bash
[22:34] <trace30m> Ari-Yang: but better 3D
[22:34] <Cyrax> I installed virtualbox on my windoos 8 64 bit.. then i downloaded .iso of ubuntu.. the 12.04 LTS on virtualbox
[22:34] <usr13> Kratisto78: Did it boot up ok this time?
[22:34] <Kratisto78> yeah I'm in ubuntu
[22:35] <Ari-Yang> trace30m, the open source driver, UVD, and the new dynamic power management competes, hell even beats fglrx
[22:35] <histo> Cyrax: aparently your iso is bad if it's hanging in virtualbox
[22:35] <Kratisto78> usr13: fuck I always forget to type your name in front.  I have an option to instlal on the desktop since its in ubuntu
[22:35] <histo> !language | Kratisto78
[22:35] <Ari-Yang> trace30m, can't point you the way, just google what I said, check phoronix out too, bye
[22:35] <TJ-> failmaster: GRUB mounts /boot/ to read the bootloader menu and files, and then it chains the linux kernel and initrd image into memory and hands over to them. At that point, *Linux* does *not* have /boot/ mounted.
[22:35] <Kratisto78> Sorry everyone my fault
[22:35] <trace30m> Ari-Yang: is the opensource driver enough for 3D?
[22:35] <budmang> usr13: that worked FYI
[22:35] <budmang> sorry stepped out for lunch.
[22:35] <xqee> Thanks All
[22:36] <failmaster> TJ-, how it takes my initrd image requiring appropriate fs module, what is the default mount point then at this stage? =)
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> trace30m:  try it and see how well it works for you.
[22:36] <Cyrax> histo: So what i do? i dont understand this hash5sum or what it was called.. so u need to help find a way to fix it
[22:36] <usr13> budmang: Good.  Thanks for telling us.
[22:36] <Wulframn> Cyrax: To fix it you need to download a fresh .iso.
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> Cyrax:  if the iso is a bad download. you redownload it. (torrents can help make sure its a good download)
[22:37] <budmang> usr13: why would it not take the default :)
[22:37] <usr13> Kratisto78: Ok... go for it.
[22:37] <Cyrax> Can u give me a fresh fixed one please?
[22:37] <usr13> budmang: Not sure...
[22:37] <TJ-> failmaster: initrd is mounted as a read-only / file-system... it is replaced by the *real* rootfs just before /sbin/init is executed
[22:37] <Kratisto78> usr13: Okay thanks I'll try it hopefully it works and I don't need to report back
[22:37] <linuxliam_> what is the best irc client based on features and ease of use granted i am using xchat but i looked at launchpad bug listings for xchat some have been there for years with no fix i would love to fix it myself but im not a developer and input appreciated
[22:37] <Wulframn> Cyrax: Do you know how to use torrents?
[22:37] <Cyrax> yes ofcours
[22:38] <usr13> Kratisto78: Ok.  Good luck.  (We'll be here....)
[22:38] <Cyrax> problem is to fix that ubuntu u said
[22:38] <TJ-> failmaster: So if the real rootfs is encrypted, and its key-file is on the /boot/ file-system, then initrd has to have a script that will mount /boot/ file-sytem onto /boot/ in order to read the key-file
[22:38] <failmaster> TJ-, whatever, there should be a mount point for filesystem which contains initrd image?
[22:38] <histo> Cyrax: I don't need to do anything. You need to read the page that you've been provided as it clearly points you in the right direction for obtaining a hash value of the iso you have on your machine. After you get that you compare it to the link I provided you with the hashes to confirm it matches.
[22:39] <Cyrax> i jsut have to install a older ubuntu
[22:39] <Wulframn> Cyrax: download this .torrent file and use it to download Ubuntu 12.04 via your preferred torrent client. http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[22:39] <usr13> Cyrax: md5sum ubuntu-what-ever.iso   #Wait for result and google it.
[22:39] <TJ-> failmaster: initrd is the root and it contains an /init script that does all the early set-up work, including unlocking a possibly encrypted rootfs that will replace initrd
[22:39] <usr13> Cyrax: Which ISO image do you have?
[22:39] <failmaster> TJ-, initrd image is a file on a filesystem, that's why grub needs a module for this
[22:40] <TJ-> failmaster: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-initrd/index.html
[22:40] <TJ-> failmaster: "The initial RAM disk (initrd) is an initial root file system that is mounted prior to when the real root file system is available"
[22:41] <Cyrax> just curious.. about setting ram.. can i set it to any when creating virtual drive or must it b 512MB
[22:41] <failmaster> TJ-, agreed, but technically it mounts unpacking from the file which is built as /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-blah so it has to mount the media with boot
[22:42] <Jordan_U> failmaster: Why do you want to have a separate key file for your LUKS container rather than doing things normally (with everything needed in the LUKS header)?
[22:42] <usr13> Cyrax: Depends on how much you have, how much you think you need or can afford for Ubuntu.
[22:42] <TJ-> failmaster: *what* "has to mount the media with boot"  ... that would be GRUB... and Linux has just replaced GRUB in memory and is executing. GRUB is dead!
[22:42] <Cyrax> I got 8GB ram
[22:43] <usr13> Cyrax: Give it 2G or so.
[22:43] <failmaster> Jordan_U, not sure what you mean exactly, i jsut want key file auth on boot for every luks device without 3rd party script
[22:43] <TJ-> failmaster: So, the answer to your issue is, USE A KEY-SCRIPT !
[22:44] <usr13> Cyrax: I don't even think Ubuntu will run on only 512M
[22:44] <failmaster> TJ-, this answer should be given in /usr/share/doc/cryptsetup/README.initramfs.gz and there is none
[22:45] <Wulframn> usr13: 512M is the minimum recommended amount
[22:45] <Wulframn> It's gonna run *slooow*
[22:45] <TJ-> failmaster: "...if you wish to make use of more complex setups (such as root-key-on-usb-memory), you can create a script which does all the steps necessary to retrieve the key and then prints it to stdout"
[22:46] <usr13> Cyrax: If it does, it would be pretty slow and clunky, (unless you go for lubuntu or xubuntu).  But as Wulframn suggests, 512M is "minimum" recommended amount, so...
[22:46] <failmaster> TJ-, it gives me an option to have such scenario in case i will decide to hide it deeper, however it is clear for me that grub should mount filesystem with kernel image and initrd before ram disk starts to spin providing initramfs environment
[22:46] <Jordan_U> failmaster: Is this keyfile contained on a separate media that you plan to keep more secure than the media containing the root filesystem itself?
[22:46] <failmaster> TJ-, that's why i already had such setup
[22:46] <failmaster> Jordan_U, on /boot which is removable device physically
[22:46] <Wulframn> I was throwing it out there that that was the minimum; I *strongly* recommend a minimum of 2G unless you want to know what it's like to ride a snail uphill through molasses!
[22:47] <usr13> Cyrax: Considering what Wulframn must posted, 1G or 1.5G might be ok.
[22:47] <Jordan_U> failmaster: A removable device which you plan to keep more secure than the internal drive?
[22:47] <Jordan_U> failmaster: More physically secure that is.
[22:47] <failmaster> Jordan_U, exactly, because internal drives without bootloader and keys in there are already secured, that's how i see the point of encryption
[22:48] <TJ-> failmaster: You are failing to understand that whatever GRUB does, the Linux kernel does *not* inherit. GRUB doesn't 'mount' file-systems for Linux.
[22:48] <dminuth> hey guys, am having following problem.  Ubuntu 12.04LTS, am not seeing my battery charge level on a toshiba satellite l745d.  I tried any and all Ubuntu based distro's and am having same proble,.. Tried Debian and it has it.  But i like Ubuntu.  So any idea how to get that to work.  I know it has to do with the toshiba-acpi kernel module but i am not advanced enough to find the solution
[22:48] <usr13> Cyrax: Wulframn agrees that 2G is good.
[22:48] <TJ-> failmaster: I've been using this exact scenario for my servers for over five years; it needs the key-script.
[22:48] <Vivekananda> I am trying to print directly to printer from ubuntu ( ie without print dialogue). Shoould I do this or should I first write a .txt file and then print it or should I write a file in a shared folder, find a host ( win7) program to monitor the folder and print to the printer directly
[22:49] <failmaster> TJ-, so it's necessary to have the key file built into initrd in order to make it work for rootfs device?
[22:50] <usr13> Vivekananda: lpr  Hit enter, start typing, Ctrl-d  at start of line to finish, or lpr file-name.txt
[22:50] <TJ-> failmaster: not the key-file no, the key-script. The key-script then does what is needed (in your case, it mounts /boot/ temporarily, reads the key-file, unmounts /boot/, writes the key-file content to stdout, and exits
[22:50] <Jordan_U> failmaster: You seem to have it completely backwards. The drives containing the encrypted data are useless to an attacker if they steal the laptop (assuming this is a laptop), but the key (contained on your flash drive) is very valuable. The key should be stored on the *most* physically secure media, not the least physically secure media (if it's stored unencrypted in the first place).
[22:50] <usr13> Vivekananda: ... that is, if the desired printer is set as server default.  (lpq should tell you that).
[22:51] <dminuth> Toshiba laptop not showing battery charge level, Can anyone help ?
[22:51] <failmaster> Jordan_U, it's not a laptop, it's a olid box that weights about 16kg and i have a very exotic backup for this key file
[22:51] <syntroPi> aaarg where  is the gui way to add a user to a group????? do i really need terminal or edit /etc/groups manually??
[22:51] <TJ-> failmaster: All the servers in my racks use the same method
[22:51] <usr13> Vivekananda: You should also be able to do   lpr file.pdf   or   lpr file.jpg
[22:51] <histo> Vivekananda: lpr filename -P printername
[22:52] <Jordan_U> failmaster: Why keep your most important secret (the decryption key) on something that weighs a few grams and is easily stolen then?
[22:52] <failmaster> TJ-, i got it, but why do i need a keyscript at all if at some point i have an absolute path which is correct at the timeline where cryptsetup takes place
[22:53] <Vivekananda> usr13: I have a guest ubuntu on vbox on a guest win7. here is the problem I am facing --http://www.gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/6215384
[22:53] <failmaster> Jordan_U, because no once can steal it from me
[22:53] <dminuth> <--- requiring help for toshiba-acpi.
[22:53] <failmaster> one* lol
[22:53] <Wulframn> failmaster: are you andre the giant and skilled in all forms of martial arts?
[22:53] <TJ-> failmaster: How does Linux and the initrd scripts know where to find the file-system to mount to read the key-file? Because each admin might choose to do that bit differently, we're left to provide our own key-script
[22:53] <Jordan_U> failmaster: How is your USB drive secured? Do you keep it in a safe when not in use?
[22:53] <failmaster> Wulframn, no, i got my profit-habits
[22:53] <Vivekananda> usr13: histo the file prints but with lots of weird things. eg sometimes one print goes through but all paper in the tray is cycled through!! other times I get 2 or more prints as in the link I posted above
[22:54] <Wulframn> failmaster: Then it is easily stolen. You it would behoove you to listen to those attempting to educate you.
[22:54] <Vivekananda> usr13: histo the file prints but with lots of weird things. eg sometimes one print goes through but all paper in the tray is cycled through!! other times I get 2 or more prints as in the link I posted above  http://www.gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/6215384
[22:54] <Vivekananda> sorry
[22:54] <histo> Vivekananda: print driver issue?
[22:55] <failmaster> TJ-, i wouldn't argue if it wasn't working 2 months ago with 12.04, but before that i used the keyscript =)
[22:55] <failmaster> i didn't need one 2 months ago
[22:55] <failmaster> and i'm 100% sure about it
[22:56] <failmaster> Wulframn, did it ever happen to you, something was stolen from you?
[22:56] <Vivekananda> histo: I tried to locate the driver and set up the printer but not of much help
[22:56] <TJ-> failmaster: Maybe the previous keyscript was inherited without your realising?
[22:56] <Vivekananda> I located the driver and installed it and the printer showed up -- brother (HL 2270dw )
[22:57] <failmaster> TJ-, how, when i was the one editing crypttab the same way
[22:57] <Wulframn> failmaster: Yes, I had a trailer with ~$10,000 worth of lawn equipment stolen from me once. It was securely locked, monitored, and had a high, locked fence around it. If someone wants to take something from you they will find a way to take it.
[22:57] <Vivekananda> but still did ont find it in cups setup so left it. Also someone told me that vbox uses its own printers
[22:58] <failmaster> Wulframn, nothing was stolen from me for all my life and it's not like i sit at home 24hrs a day, i got my own methods and telling about it is insecure for me =)
[22:58] <Jordan_U> failmaster: The default for LUKS is to have a version of the encryption key, which is itself encrypted with a passphrase, stored in the LUKS header. This is a sane and decently secure configuration. It sounds like your configuration is both less secure (because the key is being stored in plain text / unencrypted) and more complicated. I recommend that you rething your configuration and go with something more secure, simple, and maintain
[22:58] <failmaster> but as a matter of giving a clue it's all about forming necessary habits of yours
[22:58] <Wulframn> What's that old saying? Well, the computer-guy version of it is: There's only two types of people in the world: those who back up their data and those who've never had a hard drive failure.
[22:58] <Vivekananda> histo: how do I ask ubuntu to use the drivers I installed manually for the printer ?
[22:59] <histo> Vivekananda: use cups to select whatever driver
[22:59] <histo> !cups | Vivekananda
[22:59] <histo> Vivekananda: opena  browser and go to localhost:631
[22:59] <failmaster> Jordan_U, it only sounds like that because destroying the key in the right moment will save you from telling the password to people how know how to extract it from you body =)
[22:59] <TJ-> Jordan_U: "stored unencrypted" not so. I use IronKey F200 fingerprint-secured USB flash drives as the key store.
[22:59] <failmaster> who*
[23:00] <failmaster> Jordan_U, sorry for my english, i'm not that fast enough
[23:00] <bekks> TJ-: fingerprint secured? Thats not really secure.
[23:00] <TJ-> bekks: From casual loss or copying, it is
[23:01] <histo> bekks: depends on the fingerprint scanner accuracy
[23:01] <Jordan_U> TJ-: Does failmaster use an IronKey F200 fingerprint-secured USB flash drive? I expect that your setup is secure, as you seem to have a much better understanding of the technology than failmaster.
[23:01] <failmaster> TJ-, but actually you gave me a very good clue how to deal with it! i really appreciate your backup mate!
[23:01] <bekks> Depends on the will of the attacker to cut your finger...
[23:01] <benzrf> when you live boot is there a default root password?
[23:01] <bekks> !root | benzrf
[23:02] <TJ-> bekks: At that level, the same argument applies to being 'persuaded' to reveal the passphrase/password
[23:02] <benzrf> bekks: yes, but on the liveusb
[23:02] <benzrf> :P
[23:02] <failmaster> Jordan_U, it's not necessary while you have a custom device which can destroy the media instantly
[23:02] <bekks> benzrf: That applies to the live usb as well.
[23:02] <Wulframn> lol
[23:02] <rotham> hey.. where should I add exports (to add env variables) if I want them to be added everytime the system reboots?
[23:02] <benzrf> ok
[23:02] <benzrf> :|
[23:03] <TJ-> failmaster: Have you thought of using LUKS with GRUB to encrypt the boot too? I've been working on patches to that to enable key-files for GRUB
[23:04] <TJ-> On a totally unrelated note - anyone fancy fixing this sfdisk bug: "Warning: partition 5 is not contained in partition 5" !?
[23:04] <failmaster> TJ-, nah, mostly because i chose the way of my behavior via 100% destruction of the media and inability to provide the keyfile atm when someone will be trying to beat it out from me
[23:05] <TJ-> failmaster: I'd quite like LUKS to support a 999 key slot, that when used, would destroy the content of the encrypted volume
[23:06] <Jordan_U> TJ-: Could you please pastebin the full output from sfdisk as well as the output of "sudo parted -l" and "sudo fdisk -lu"?
[23:06] <TJ-> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/wvf4HHGx
[23:06] <failmaster> TJ-, the backup of the keyfile is stored in a very exotic form of media which requires having rare equipment which costs enough and hard to get enough fast, key file in there is not in it's end form and there is a person who responsible to judge if i'm under pressure or not to give the backup away to me
[23:07] <rotham> hey.. to add vars to my environment should i just add them to /etc/environment or is there a better way?
[23:08] <wget> Hi guys. I would like to know if Ubuntu automatically remove previous unused kernels and initramfs after a kernel upgrade?
[23:08] <failmaster> TJ-, so that's why i am so annoying in here with that question, i never liked the idea of having 3rd party helper so it was a bless for me when i got rid of it on 12.04
[23:08] <wget> *removes
[23:09] <TJ-> Jordan_U: The issue I'm dealing with is the recovery of a hardware-damaged 500GB SATA drive. Used ddrescue and recovered ~450GB of it to a clone 1TB drive. The image has 4 primary partitions, so the 1TB right now cannot be allocated beyond 500GB. I need to re-write MBR's P.T. #4 as an extended partition, then move the values from #4 into the first logical partition. I've got sfdisk to allow me to do that with various over-ride switches, but then it hits this weird
[23:09] <TJ->  bug! I'm reading the source code, in partition_ok(), and can't see how it's figuring out that the logical partition is its own parent E.P. !
[23:09] <us0r> hey, is iptables -A
[23:09] <us0r> sorry, wrong channel
[23:10] <failmaster> wget, nope it doesn't as far as i know
[23:11] <failmaster> wget, and it's great mostly because you can fall back to previous ones in case something was broken
[23:11] <Kratisto78> usr13: you still there?
[23:11] <wget> failmaster: So after an upgrade from let's say 13.04 to 13.10 then 14.04, I could have a bunch of unused kernels (and not counting the ones from security updates). What a mess is that for a Linux distribution...
[23:11] <Wulframn> wget: Even if it does not, the kernels are not very large and cleanup is not very difficult.
[23:12] <failmaster> wget, well, if you don't like it, you can manage to deal with it using regexps to remove all kernels older than current version-1
[23:12] <wget> Wulframn: I know that, I'm quite accustomed to use GNU Linux distribution, but am looking for a newbie distribution for totally noob users.
[23:12] <Vivekananda> histo: I already went that route and tried to look for the driver. But I did not get the driver and also I found that for my printer there is a driver.deb present on the site so I used this to downloadd and install it -- http://askubuntu.com/questions/226307/how-to-install-a-brother-hl2270dw-laser-printer
[23:12] <wget> *distributions
[23:12] <failmaster> wget, to make it work automatically you can set it up into some custom hook
[23:12] <Kratisto78> If anyone can help usr13 was helping me before.  I have a lenovo s400 laptop and I just used a usb to install ubuntu.  I attempted to reboot after the install and now it goes right to a black screen.  Nothing happens.  I tried the button that boots right into bios and still nothing.
[23:13] <Wulframn> wget: Why would a newbie need to cleanup old kernels? By the time they, feasibly, would "need" to they would know how.
[23:13] <failmaster> so during updates it will check the *garbage* stuff
[23:13] <Jordan_U> TJ-: It might be easier to just use gdisk and convert it to GPT.
[23:13] <usr13> Kratisto78: On the phone...
[23:14] <haydenhm> Does anyone here know how to make a grage band file a .wav???
[23:14] <Kratisto78> usr13: Okay
[23:14] <usr13> !nomodeset | Kratisto78
[23:14] <Jordan_U> TJ-: Could you please paste the output of "sudo parted -l" and "sudo fdisk -lu"?
[23:14] <hphhh> CAn somebody help ?? about my  wireless lan
[23:14] <Wulframn> !ask | hphhh
[23:14] <wget> Wulframn: Because after time it's machine will contain a bunch of unused kernels and different kernel version might appear in their bootloader menu which may frighten them ;-) (I wanted an automatic cleaning tool, but solution from failmaster to add a hook sounds great.)
[23:15] <Kratisto78> usr13: thats what we did before but now I literally can't do anything.  When I hit the button that took me to bios before it loads right into a blank screen.  I literally see nothing not even bios
[23:15] <wget> failmaster: Wulframn: Do you have any mkinitcpio tool on Ubuntu too (sorry I'm actually an ArchLinux user for now)
[23:15] <usr13> hphhh: Yea
[23:15] <haydenhm> Does anyone here know how to make a grage band file a .wav???
[23:15] <Wulframn> wget: Ubuntu automatically handles updating grub.cfg to reflect the newest kernel, without directing them to use an older kernel.
[23:15] <hphhh> I not really expert on ubuntu and i want active my wireless lan  i have lenovo z570
[23:15] <failmaster> wget, i suggest you to deal with it manually until you have limited space on /boot device
[23:16] <failmaster> wget, it would be better to leave them, believe me =)
[23:16] <usr13> Kratisto78: Hold shift key, (after post).
[23:16] <Wulframn> wget: I'm actually a Gentoo user and I don't have an Ubuntu right in front of me as my virtualbox is down. =P
[23:16] <Jordan_U> wget: Recent versions of Ubuntu keep older kernels in a separate "Advanced" submenu in the grub menu, so they won't scare users (or clutter the main menu).
[23:16] <wget> Jordan_U: Thanks for the info.
[23:16] <Jordan_U> wget: You're welcome.
[23:16] <Wulframn> wget: ^ what failmaster said. It is better to leave old kernels you know works in case you ever need to use one
[23:16] <haydenhm> Does anyone here know how to make a grage band file a .wav??? PM me if you do.
[23:17] <Jordan_U> !pm | haydenhm
[23:17] <Kratisto78> usr13: I turned it on and held shift and nothing happened.  I don't know how long I have to do that but nothing was happening
[23:17] <hphhh> hummmm.......  i tried rfkill list
[23:17] <th0r> Haydenhm: sox maybe?
[23:17] <hphhh> but it isn't run
[23:17] <haydenhm> ???
[23:17] <k1l_> hphhh: with sudo?
[23:18] <failmaster> wget, that shouldn't be a problem until the space on /boot device is very limited, in that case dig in a way of getting custom hook which would be called in a cozy way to get rid of *garbage* but define garbage carefully
[23:18] <hphhh> yes   , too
[23:18] <hphhh> my ph0 : hard : blocked
[23:18] <TJ-> Jordan_U: I'm reading up on gdisk, but so far not found any confirmation it can change an in-situ fully populated MBR to GPT without affecting the already-configured partitions or the file-systems within them
[23:18] <TJ-> Jordan_U: Would you happen to know if it can be done?
[23:19] <k1l_> hphhh: make sure there is no switch turned off
[23:19] <Jordan_U> haydenhm: There probably isn't a simple tool to make a garage band project into an audio file (other than garage band itself), as it's not an audio file itself. It's a little like the difference between a word document and a jpeg rendering of that document. A Garage band project is not an audio file, it's a project (though if you're lucky it may be a directory containing among other things a pre-rendered cache of the music).
[23:19] <robin0800> Kratisto78: hope this is not the problem http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Protection-against-Samsung-UEFI-bug-merged-into-Linux-kernel-1795332.html
[23:19] <k1l_> hphhh: or some fn-shortcut
[23:19] <hphhh> my switch is on
[23:19] <usr13> Kratisto78: Holding down the Shift key should give you the grub screen.
[23:19] <hphhh> bth is active too
[23:19] <Jordan_U> TJ-: It definitely can be done, I've done it many times.
[23:19] <hphhh> i tried  but nothing
[23:19] <Kratisto78> usr13: I pressed power and held in shift for around a minute and nothing
[23:20] <hphhh> fn-sh
[23:20] <haydenhm> good bye
[23:20] <Jordan_U> TJ-: http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/mbr2gpt.html
[23:20] <usr13> Kratisto78: You have to do it right after post
[23:20] <Kratisto78> robin0800: you think that could have happened
[23:20] <Kratisto78> usr13: by post do you mean hitting the power button?? and if so I am doing it like as fast as possible
[23:20] <TJ-> Jordan_U: OK, I found more info http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/mbr2gpt.html
[23:21] <hphhh> well
[23:21] <robin0800> Kratisto78: the article mentions lenvio laptops too
[23:21] <hphhh>  i will reinstall all
[23:22] <hphhh> one question ?  Why my battery waste a lot of  power???
[23:22] <kubunto> hello
[23:22] <wget> Wulframn: I'll leave these kernel as-it. Anyway, I won't maintain their system.
[23:23] <Kratisto78> robin0800: I literally can't get anything to come up.  My guess is I probably will not be able to return this either then will I
[23:23] <wget> failmaster: Are you a initramfs expert?
[23:23] <hphhh> one question ?  Why my battery waste a lot of  power???   I have  a nvidia GPu with cuda
[23:23] <Wulframn> wget: That's good. Leave them to maintain it (but provide assistance when asked) so they'll learn.
[23:23] <failmaster> wget, no, please, be careful listening to me :D
[23:24] <kubunto> i need some help
[23:24] <kubunto> anyone avalible to help out
[23:25] <Kratisto78> robin0800: I am kind of freaking out now since I literally just purchased this and based on what I'm looking at that seems like what happens
[23:25] <wget> failmaster: Ahah ;-) (It was related to dmraid, if you want to know. The latter detects the array not the partition, need to write a hook that does a 'partprobe' to prevent the kernel that new partitions are available, those from the raid).
[23:25] <wget> failmaster: (I was rewriting the RAID documentation from the ArchLinux wiki)
[23:26] <wget> *I'm
[23:26] <failmaster> guys, where can i read about booting system over grub 2 related to sequience in details, mostly about how it get gets us into initd image and how control being passed through stages of boot? please, sorry for my retarded english
[23:26] <kubunto> hello?
[23:26] <kubunto> can i get some help
[23:26] <bekks> kubunto: How about stating your actual problem?
[23:27] <kubunto> bekks: I cannot download packages, instead this is what my terminal gives me, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5979134/
[23:28] <usr13> kubunto: sudo apt-get update
[23:28] <failmaster> wget, oh, got it, but i'm kinda noob when it comes to complicated raid/lvm/stuff i prefer to avoid increasing storage device configuration complexity if it's not *must be*
[23:29] <kubunto> usr13: fails as well, similar fashion to installing
[23:29] <usr13> kubunto: sudo apt-get update |pastebinit
[23:29] <Kratisto78> Anyone have any advice.  Attempted to install ubuntu on lenovo s400 and now nothing happens on boot not even bios
[23:30] <usr13> !uefi | Kratisto78
[23:30] <failmaster> guys, where can i read about booting system over grub 2 related to detailed sequence, mostly about how it gets us into initrd image and how control being passed through stages of boot? please, sorry for my retarded english
[23:30] <Kratisto78> usr13: I just looked at that I didn't see anything to do now after installing
[23:30] <Wulframn> failmaster: Ever consider reading grub's source code?
[23:31] <kubunto> usr13: here is the output of update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5979156/
[23:31] <checoimg> Hi everyone
[23:31] <checoimg> I'm trying this command : ls | unzip
[23:31] <checoimg> BUt it doesn't unzip all files
[23:32] <Kratisto78> usr13: I didn't convert ubuntu into legacy mode.  When we were talking about it I thought I just had to hit install
[23:32] <checoimg> What am I missing ?
[23:32] <bekks> checoimg: Because thats a wrong command.
[23:32] <failmaster> Wulframn, not good enough talking about skills which will allow me to get this puzzle into solid picture :D
[23:33] <bekks> checoimg: for i in *.zip; do unzip $i; done
[23:33] <Kratisto78> usr13: Sorry man I'm freaking out.  I'm super paranoid that I just lost 300$
[23:33] <Wulframn> Lost 300$?
[23:33] <checoimg> bekks : Thank you! :)
[23:34] <usr13> kubunto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1983220
[23:34] <Kratisto78> Wulframn: I just bought this laptop and installed ubuntu now nothing happens at all on boot.  Literally nothing not even bios
[23:34] <Wulframn> Kratisto78: what happens when you hit the power button? Just a black screen?
[23:35] <Kratisto78> Wulframn: Yes.  Even if I press the button that used to boot into bios nothing happens.  It turns on to a black screen
[23:35] <Wulframn> Kratisto78: no prduct splash screen or anything?
[23:35] <Kratisto78> Absolutely nothing
[23:35] <Wulframn> Can you see the monitor's backlight come on?
[23:35] <Wulframn> Go into a really dark room if you have to.
[23:37] <Kratisto78> Wulframn: Nothing.  Only the power button stays lit and two lights on the outside like the power indicator lights
[23:37] <Wulframn> Monitor's dead
[23:37] <Kratisto78> what does that mean
[23:37] <Wulframn> Or it's connection to the motherboard is dead.
[23:37] <Wulframn> Kratisto78: how new is the computer?
[23:37] <checoimg> bekks : And what about : unzip *.zip
[23:38] <Kratisto78> Wulframn: Brand new.  I literally got it a few days ago and just installed ubuntu and rebooted.  usr13 helped me install ubuntu
[23:38] <us0r> hello all, is  iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT  the correct terminal command to open port 80?
[23:38] <Wulframn> Kratisto78: take it into the store and show them that the monitor is dead. Don't tell them you put ubuntu on it or they'll try to tell you that you borked it. Tell them it just went black during normal use (which is probably did) and have them check the hardware connections, etc.
[23:39] <checoimg> afk
[23:39] <Kratisto78> Wulframn: I bought it online and received it a few days ago.  I got it from the lenovo outlet
[23:39] <Wulframn> Kratisto78: hang on
[23:40] <Wulframn> Wow, lenovo? Never had one of those die. I only have lenovos in my house... =P
[23:40] <Kratisto78> Wulframn:  I'm just worried my install bricked it
[23:40] <Wulframn> Kratisto78: Are you in the usa?
[23:40] <Kratisto78> Wulframn: Yes
[23:40] <kubunto> usr13: no dice
[23:40] <kubunto> usr13: still blowing up after 98% package list read
[23:41] <Wulframn> Kratisto78: Ubuntu + Lenovo get along famously. I am 99.9% certain you did not brick it.
[23:41] <Kratisto78> Wulframn:  It has uefi mode.  I enabled legacy mode.  In grub I added nomodeset because it was booting into black screen.  that worked then I installed ubuntu rebooted and now this.  Can't get to bios nothing.
[23:42] <Wulframn> Kratisto78: http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/ - try warranty and services OR contacting them directly (I recommend this one) as they are really quite nice to deal with.
[23:42] <hphhh> help!!  I installed Ubuntu but i need some application in win 7  , I use  a lenovo 570  and My recoveries Disks said that There arent't structures of factory
[23:42] <hphhh> CAn anybody help me
[23:42] <Wulframn> Kratisto78: do you have your live cd or usb?
[23:42] <Kratisto78> Wulframn: Thanks for giving me a little hope.  Do I tell t hem about ubuntu and I used a usb
[23:42] <Wulframn> Kratisto78: could you boot it up into the live environment provided on the usb before this issue?
[23:42] <Wulframn> !ask | hphhh
[23:43] <Wulframn> Oops, I see your question, hphhh - my bad
[23:43] <robin0800> Kratisto78: see this http://www.pcworld.com/article/2026807/booting-linux-via-uefi-can-brick-some-samsung-laptops.html
[23:43] <blz> hphhh, I'm not sure I understand your question
[23:43] <blz> hphhh, could you rephrase it or be a bit clearer, please?
[23:43] <Kratisto78> Wulframn: I struggled with it for days but I put it in legacy mode and when I added nomodeset it got into the live and I installed from there
[23:43] <Wulframn> blz: apparently they want some application from win7 that was not on their factory recovery cd
[23:44] <blz> Wulframn, I'm wondering if his problem isn't that he overwrote the recovery partition that some manufacturers include
[23:44] <Kratisto78> Wulframn: See what robin0800 just said.  This is what I'm worried about
[23:44] <Wulframn> Kratisto78: please attempt to boot into the live usb environment. Just see if you can even get *anything* on the monitor. Anything at all
[23:45] <Kratisto78> I plugged the usb back in and still nothing
[23:45] <Wulframn> blz: Those factory recovery partitions are a pain in my...neck = / I hate that companies don't provide CD's anymore
[23:45] <blz> hphhh, what application do you need, anyway?  Perhaps there's a suitable alternative that runs under Ubuntu.  Or perhaps we can get your applciation running in wine
[23:45] <nonamehero> !patience
[23:45] <blz> Wulframn, with you all the way.  That's about half of the reason I ditched windows
[23:45] <Kratisto78> robin0800:  Do you think this is what happened?
[23:45] <kubunto> usr13, That thread you gave me was absoulutely no help
[23:46] <kubunto> no change at all
[23:46] <Wulframn> Kratisto78: In my opinion your only option is to contact Lenovo and ask for inspection and repair/replacement.
[23:46] <hphhh> ok , I erase all my HD  , then I installed Ubuntu  , Finally I wanna get back to win 7
[23:46] <hphhh> I use a lenovo z570 with nvidia driver
[23:46] <TJ-> Kratisto78: Have you removed the battery pack for a minute or so before trying to boot it to a LiveCD/USB ?
[23:46] <robin0800> Kratisto78: only if all it mentions applies to you
[23:46] <Wulframn> blz: As soon as i get a new computer out of the box i've got a SysRescCD in it looking to play with installing gentoo or something =P
[23:46] <blz> hphhh, yeah it sounds like you erased the recovery partition
[23:47] <blz> hphhh, I take it you don't have a window's installation CD?
[23:47] <Kratisto78> Tj-: Yes I have
[23:47] <Wulframn> hphhh: Which win7 app are you looking for?
[23:47] <dr_willis> always make a dvd restore set on a new pc..   ;-)
[23:47] <TJ-> Kratisto78: Is there any sign of flicker from the screen at all, from the second power is applied?
[23:47] <hphhh> I have 2 disks of recovery but in the installations said that they didn't find the estructures of factory
[23:47] <blz> hphhh, usually your windows key is printed somewhere on the back of your computer case.  If that's the case, than I would just download an installation CD from somewhere and reinstall with that.  You'll be promted to enter your key and all will be dandy
[23:48] <hphhh> gameesssssssssssssssssssssss
[23:48] <blz> hphhh, yeah recovery CDs are not the same as installation cds =/
[23:48] <Kratisto78> TJ-: Nothing. I already went into a dark room.  Only that power button and the two little status things at the bottom light up
[23:49] <kubunto> I cannot completely download any packages either from install or update. I need help to update my machine
[23:49] <hphhh> I Erase the FActory partition and oem  and my Cd's are unsuals
[23:49] <Jordan_U> hphhh: For help installing Windows try ##windows.
[23:49] <blz> hphhh, do as I suggested previously
[23:49] <hphhh> ok  thansk
[23:49] <blz> hphhh, see if you have a windows key printed on your case somewhere
[23:49] <x5ives> I selected to check my lubuntu disc for defects and it's just been sitting on the loading splash screen for ages.
[23:49] <blz> hphhh, if so, you should be able to download an installation CD
[23:50] <TheLegace> hi im trying to figure out why im getting this error
[23:50] <clj_newb_2345> on ubuntu 13.04, is there a way to tell ubuntu "here, take this file, run it on startup as the firewall rules?" (i.e. I have a list of iptables rules, I want them run -- they're slghtly more complicated than ufw since I need to allow port forwarding to handle docker containers)
[23:50] <TJ-> Kratisto78: the 2 indicator LEDs are power-status (left) and battery-status(right). Are they both on solid without flashing?
[23:50] <TheLegace> ERROR:phablet-flash:Command 'adb reboot bootloader' returned non-zero exit status 1
[23:50] <TheLegace> im trying to install ubuntu touch on my nexus 4
[23:50] <us0r> just out of curiosity, can anyone see me? not sure if no ones talkd to me since i started coming here cause of an error i made or becuase they dont care to answer. im not offended or anything, jus wondering if i have an issue with my settings for this channel that i need to fix
[23:50] <Kratisto78> TJ-: Yes thats it and no screen flicker or anything
[23:50] <failmaster> TJ-, so if it's correct conclusion that we have /boot mounted according to 11.2 from http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Filesystem
[23:50] <Jordan_U> us0r: We can see you.
[23:50] <x5ives> us0r: Yes.
[23:51] <us0r> k thx ^_^
[23:51] <TJ-> Kratisto78: And, if you hold down the power button for 4 seconds or more, does the power-status LED turn off?
[23:51] <Kratisto78> TJ-: Yeah it turns back off
[23:51] <kubunto> usr13: are you still here
[23:51] <TJ-> Kratisto78: OK... working my way through the service manual :p
[23:52] <hphhh> why my lenovo z570 can't install ubuntu SO amd64bits ???
[23:52] <budmang> us0r: whats ur issue?
[23:52] <budmang> hphhh: why? you tell us? whats the error?
[23:52] <kubunto> can someone help me out with my packages problem
[23:52] <blz> !ask|kubunto
[23:52] <usr13> kubunto: Yes?
[23:52] <kubunto> usr13: your link was a fail
[23:53] <us0r> budmang: my question was - is  iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT  the correct terminal command to open port 80? thanks
[23:53] <TJ-> Kratisto78: Have you tried getting into the Quick Start system? Holding down Fn+F3 (if hotkey mode is enabled) or just F3 when it isn't?
[23:53] <kubunto> it changed absolutely nothing
[23:53] <budmang> looks good us0r why not? are you getting an error? is it not working?
[23:53] <Kratisto78> TJ-: TO get into bios it was f2 before.  I'll try and do the f3
[23:53] <usr13> kubunto: Show me the link
[23:53] <failmaster> Kratisto78, not "del" key?
[23:54] <us0r> budmang: no its not working. when i input it it jus opens a new blank line and when i check the port its still closed
[23:54] <kubunto> usr13: this is what you gave me, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1983220
[23:54] <usr13> kubunto: changed nothing?
[23:54] <hphhh> The screen set " the product is protected with patents  13451455454..........." something like it
[23:54] <Kratisto78> failmaster: Nope.  I'm justing a lenovo s400 and f2 worked before
[23:54] <failmaster> Kratisto78, should be f2 then no matter what
[23:54] <hphhh> but never boot Linux
[23:54] <kubunto> usr13 as in it still crashed after 98%
[23:54] <budmang> us0r: iptables -L
[23:54] <nukleuz> budmang: was you the one that struggled with a server with RAID? ubuntu 12.04? problems after removing kernels?
[23:54] <MoPac> Hello. In 13.10 or future Mir releases, are there plans for an engine to remember window placement that is more sophisticated than the current compiz plugin, or should I still be spending time trying to configure devilspie and devilspie-based programs?
[23:54] <budmang> pastebin.com me the reply, or do you see port 80 accept in there?
[23:55] <failmaster> Kratisto78, just curious, if there is boot device selection dialog on f8 or f11 or f12, does it work?
[23:55] <TJ-> Kratisto78: Read the manual, pages 23 and then 28. See it at http://www.lenovo.com/shop/americas/content/user_guides/s300_ug_en.pdf
[23:55] <budmang> nukleuz: not after removing a kernel, just a fresh install on a hw raid
[23:55] <budmang> and MBR/booting.
[23:56] <usr13> kubunto: http://askubuntu.com/questions/198371/apt-encounters-errors-with-bad-gpg-keys
[23:56] <Kratisto78> To everyone about getting into bios.  I've tried f2 fn+f2 and there is a button on the side that goes directly into bios.  Nothing has worked and the screen backlight does not even turn on
[23:56] <TJ-> Kratisto78: and lastly, read page 32 "Troubleshooting" which has as its first entry "Display problems" :p
[23:56] <Psil0cybin> hey guys quick question as an ubuntu user, should i be using an AV to protect me against Linux malware
[23:56] <kubunto> usr13, it is not a key issue, I have never seen anything explode with key issues
[23:56] <Psil0cybin> ?
[23:56] <gr33n7007h>  us0r iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT should do it
[23:56] <Psil0cybin> I use rootkit hunter, but do i need anything else, do you guys recommend anything
[23:56] <nukleuz> Budmang: Hmm. Ok. I'm wondering what happened to my setup. Unfortunally is my server located in Germany, and I'm in Norway, so I cant see whats happening during the bootup; do you know if ther are some logs from the boot somewhere?
[23:57] <failmaster> Kratisto78, try hitting f12 if nothing pops-up and you're 100% sure that your lcd screen works, it's a bad news
[23:57] <us0r> budmang: no i dont see it in there. it maight take me a min to pastebin cause i'll have to hand copy it to this comp. the one with the problem doesnt have an internet connection
[23:57] <TJ-> Kratisto78: Is the laptop always connected to mains as well as having the battery, when you're testing it?
[23:57] <budmang> nukleuz: you need remote KVM or a hands on
[23:58] <TJ-> Kratisto78: I did notice the manual warns "don't fold the screen back beyond 130 degrees"
[23:58] <budmang> us0r: if you dont see if in the iptables -L
[23:58] <budmang> then its not accepting it, though if it just returns a new line, its accepting it so somewhere your misinformed.
[23:58] <kubunto> usr13: also my laptop as slowed to a crawl
[23:58] <Psil0cybin> guys would i use an AV or a malware hunter for my Ubuntu box?? or would just a rootkit hunter do?
[23:59] <Psil0cybin> what do you guys recommend/do for your selves?
[23:59] <Kratisto78> Oh my gosh I pressed f12 and grub popped up.  Maybe it was default on and it booted into it fine.  It must have had screen default to 0 brightness or something.  Hold on running aorund my house screaming like a girl
[23:59] <DrekAlots> are there any known issues with Unity and the Nvidia 304 drivers? I installed 13.04 on my system today and Unity has been crashing left and right. Starting to piss me off.
[23:59] <Kratisto78> failmaster-: I love you so muich
[23:59] <Wulframn> Psil0cybin: linux doesn't need any of that.
[23:59]  * TJ- laughs at a very relieved Kratisto78 
[23:59] <us0r> budmang: thats what i figured. its def not listening on port 80 tho cause there is not http access whatsoever
[23:59] <blz> Psil0cybin, none of the above
[23:59] <Wulframn> CONGRATS Kratisto78 !
[23:59] <TJ-> display brightness = 0 [23:59] <bekks> DrekAlots: Which graphics hw do you have?
[23:59] <denysonique> How do I make Qt/KDE apps look like other GTK+ apps when running Unity?
[23:59] <DrekAlots> bekks: Nvidia 485M.