[00:00] :) [00:01] i just recently learned about the shift thing myself literally less then 20 hours ago [00:01] so did you have the same issue with flash after upgrading? [00:02] no im having an issue with my headset after upgrade [00:02] flash is a tad derpy but it works good enough for me to not bother with it [00:03] Wish I hadn't upgraded now, it boots up slower and probably should have left well enough alone. [00:04] If it isn't broke.... [00:04] i tend to run the latest versions i would run the 13.10 alpha build but i dont want to reinstall my os [00:06] I am pretty new to Xubuntu, but it beats Windows for sure [00:08] ive been using it since......11.10? i think [00:11] So know I know someone who might be able to help if I find myself in a jam again? [00:12] i barely know anything xD i just use google alot when i have issues [00:13] if you cant get help here another place to try would be #ubuntu [00:17] Cool, thanks for the info. :) [00:17] #ubuntu [00:17] use /join #ubuntu [00:18] with the slash [00:18] Sweet! [00:18] i would reccomend using xchat the built in irc client with xubuntu [00:19] I think that is where I am at? [00:20] http://xubuntu.org/irc/ [00:20] naaah [00:20] thats a web client [00:20] you have a built in one with xubuntu [00:21] Ok? Where would I find it? [00:21] found it [00:22] it requires a little configuring but def much better then any web client [00:26] I was able to log in to ubuntu that way [00:28] you can type /join #xubuntu in xchat and use xchat in here [00:28] am underscore maggie too [00:28] maggie_ [00:28] you can leave the web client [00:29] then in here you can do /nick Maggie [00:29] to change back to normal === maggie_ is now known as Maggie [00:30] It seemed to work. You Rock! :) [00:31] mhm you can even set up xchat to auto connect to here when you open it [00:31] like so http://i.imgur.com/AhR8gtQ.png [00:39] Awesome! Think I got it changed [00:40] what is minecraft? [00:41] Maggie, tis a game :P [00:42] Thank you Kingnick42 [00:43] No problem Maggie [00:43] Nick? Wondering if you are the same Nick that helped install my system back in February? [01:02] thanks again for your help MrHotsauce. take care! [01:03] no problem take care as well [02:04] can anyone pastebin me a copy of their thunar or file-manager .desktop files? [02:04] deleted mine like a fool :( [02:04] docky's being stubborn with icons === IdleOne is now known as frenocha === frenocha is now known as IdleOne [03:03] maitake: point me to where it is and ill see if i can provide it [03:13] Hello, I just purchased a Lenovo IdeaPad Z580 that shipped with Windows 8 (64 bit). I immediately formatted it and installed Xubuntu 13.04 using LUKS for everything except /boot. When I attempt to boot the system it falls back to the next available boot medium (PXE, USB, etc). I am able to do a chroot into the system after cryptsetup and mounting. Grub appears to be installed correctly. I'd appreciate any help. [03:17] !grub [03:17] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [03:17] I don't know about luks sorry [03:19] Alright. I wasn't sure if that was strictly a grub thing, or if something with the new secure boot/windows 8 had created different headaches for installing nix OSes. [03:25] When I attempt to install Grub it says that I have no BIOS Boot Partition and its only alternative is to use blocklists (then failing). I remember seeing a BIOS option of that nature in the partitioning system and disregarding it, so I will reinstall with a few MB dedicated to that and see what happens. [03:40] hi all! [04:07] any good themes for xubuntu? [04:08] hi [04:23] For anyone else who may have the Windows 8/LUKS boot issue, the solution (for me, at least) was to reinstall adding the first partition as BIOS Boot Partition (I used 25 MB, though 5 would probably have been enough). Next I unlocked the encrypted partition and mounted the boot partition inside that, then reinstalled Grub. That seems to work, as I am typing this from the hard drive OS. [05:44] hello. anyone uses xubuntu 12.04? i have an problem with xscreensaver, i think, but can not find any info about my problem. periodically stop working screen locking (xflock). reason - not running xscreensaver. it disappears from process list. i could start it manually ("xscreensaver&" at terminal or at ALT+F2 prompt). i tried ptions to be verbose and to log xscreensaver work, but no error found after process crushed. anyone knows this [06:10] i'm using xubuntu..but i'm not using xscreensaver because it looks awful [06:15] I have heard about xscreensaver crashing when computer is locked, but not when it's on the background [08:02] Hi [08:02] I'm using Xubuntu 13.04 on the Samsung Chromebook [08:03] It works fine but 2D graphics acceleration is horrid [08:03] Even with compisiting disabled, it's lagging when I move windows. [08:04] alfonsojon, have you tried the proprietary drivers? [08:04] jockey-gtk says I have none available [08:06] alfonsojon, ok. maybe try the samsung website or upgrading to 13.10. i can't think of anything else sorry [08:06] Alright, thanks [08:06] Then again, Chromebooks are only meant to run Chrome OS... lol [08:06] wait, you think I could copy the drivers over manually somehow? [08:07] They are both using the same kernel [08:08] alfonsojon, maybe [09:17] hmm [09:17] I'm looking at this, having set up dovecot just a bit ago... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix#Other_Postfix_Guides [09:17] erm [09:17] I mean postfix [09:17] s/dovecot/postfix [09:18] anyway, should I implement all of those for spam filtering? or just one or two? [09:20] "all of those" -. what do you mean? [09:20] Setup what you want to setup. [09:21] I'm not sure... lol.. somebody else suggested spamassasin [09:22] Then set it up. [09:35] Hello, Concerning: external hard drive 320GB Western Digital - When trying to open the HD and see the files, I get the message: Error when getting information for file '/media/BACKUP_WD/HP': Failed to open directory "BACKUP_WD". Error when getting information for file '/media/BACKUP_WD/HP': [09:36] Failed to open directory "BACKUP_WD". Error when getting information for file '/media/BACKUP_WD/HP'--Input/output error. [09:37] I am therefore unable to open the directory on this HD. It seems that the folder "HP" has a problem prohibiting the opening of the hard drive. [09:39] Your conclusion is wrong. [09:40] It seems that you get I/O errors when accessing the drive. So check the output of dmesg. [09:44] Thanks, but what I have to look at in the dmesg output? [09:46] Everything unusual. [10:04] To bekks: thanks again but to many lines whose I have no clue --> I cannot find something "unusual". [10:05] xubuntu323: Then pastebin the entire output. [10:06] any errors like I/O error in dmesg? [10:07] error warning or E_ are sings of problem [10:10] Sysi: E_ is pretty seldom in dmesg. E_* are programmatical error messages. [10:14] xubuntu323: So are you going to pastebin the entire dmesg output? [10:14] Yes, it's coming... [10:16] $ dmesg [ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset [ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu [ 0.000000] Linux version 3.2.0-48-generic (buildd@lamiak) (gcc version 4.6.3 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) ) #74-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 19:45:16 UTC 2013 (Ubuntu 3.2.0-48.74-generic 3.2.46) [ 0.000000] KERNEL supported cpus: [ 0.000000] Intel GenuineIntel [ 0.000000] AMD AuthenticAMD [ 0.000000] NSC Geode [10:17] xubuntu323: is it just a single folder you can't access or the whole drive? [10:17] $ dmesg [ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset [ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu [ 0.000000] Linux version 3.2.0-48-generic (buildd@lamiak) (gcc version 4.6.3 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) ) #74-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 19:45:16 UTC 2013 (Ubuntu 3.2.0-48.74-generic 3.2.46) [ 0.000000] KERNEL supported cpus: [ 0.000000] Intel GenuineIntel [ 0.000000] AMD AuthenticAMD [ 0.000000] NSC Geode [10:18] xubuntu323: This channel is not a pastebin. [10:18] !pastebin | xubuntu323 [10:18] xubuntu323: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [10:21] To nerdtron: with xubuntu, I cannot access the entire drive; with win xp, I can access the drive except the folder "HP" which seems to be corrupted. [10:21] xubuntu323: You have I/O errors, not corrupted folders :) [10:24] xubuntu323: So are you going to pastebin the entire dmesg output? [10:24] if it is I/O errors, it could mean a damaged hard drive. sorry but your drive could be failing already [10:25] it's backup time [10:26] you can try checking drive health with S.M.A.R.T https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools [10:26] Backup time has already passed - no backup means no data worth to be kept. [10:26] First, pastebin dmesg. :) [10:30] bekks: sorry for the delay, I am still trying. [10:31] !pastebinit | xubuntu323 [10:31] xubuntu323: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com [10:40] xubuntu323: So will you finally pastebin the requested information after 35 minutes of waiting? If not, I can get back to others things to be done. [10:42] No, sorry, it's not done because I am discovering the pastebinit system. [10:42] Ok, then good luck in solving your I/O error issues. [10:42] Go back to your activities. Thanks anyway. I will try later. [11:38] hello, [11:39] when i double click a scrip, it just runs without a warning. Is it possible to get a prompt with options like "run in terminal" "Display" etc ? Thanks for your help [11:39] *script [11:40] meditator: create a launcher which runs in terminal :) [11:41] baizon, its not for a specific file.. i mean all executable files marked as executable, when i double click them, can i get an option which says "run in terminal" "Display" etc ? [11:42] meditator: now that you say it, i remember we have that option in ubuntu [11:42] meditator: something like this? http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=7779 [11:43] but not xubuntu [11:44] nerdtron, yes.. i too used it in ubuntu [11:45] baizon: good link [11:45] baizon, thanks a lot.. thats exactly what i needed... [11:45] nerdtron: thank you [11:45] meditator: np :) [11:48] If bekks is still there, you will find a link to the dmseg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5976994/plain/ [11:50] By the way, I still have an error when trying to open an external HD connected - Error when getting information for file '/media/BACKUP_WD/HP': Input/output error. === pmjdebru1jn is now known as pmjdebruijn [11:50] xubuntu323: Yes. And as can be perfectly seen, the filesystem on that drive is corrupted. [11:50] Since it is a Windows filesystem, use Windows to fix it. [12:02] OK, thanks, bye. [12:20] baizon, i still have not been able to change the default action when double-clicking a shell script. It just executes. Is it possible to open it in a text editor, and if i want to run it, i can right click and click execute ? [13:25] Xubuntu 12.04 Elements of the panel (time, language and fast launch) are not displayed. Is any ways to fix it? === sergio is now known as Guest20270 [14:01] Hello [14:01] Guest20270: Hello [14:01] hello all [14:02] trying to install outrec in xubuntu 13.04 [14:03] I am using Xubuntu 13.04 and I have some questions: 1.- I am using Whisker menu why the firefox icons looks so tiny? and why it makes a HD checking at every boot? [14:03] getting a dependency error with gambas "dependency not satisfiable: gambas2-runtime (>=1.9.48) [14:05] ummm...anyone alive? [14:05] glitchd: We're alive, but in your case we need more information. [14:06] glitchd: What was your command line for the install? [14:06] bgardner, ok, i was attempting to install outrec from the software center but im getting a dependency error [14:07] getting a dependency error with gambas "dependency not satisfiable: gambas2-runtime (>=1.9.48) [14:07] glitchd: One moment while I look it up. [14:07] thx i appreciate the help [14:11] bgardner, any luck thus far? [14:11] glitchd: Not yet, still looking. [14:12] mmk === hobgoblin is now known as elfy [14:14] bgardner, im running ubuntu 1304 with the xubuntu desktop. [14:15] Guest20270, you should seek support from whisker menu developers [14:15] glitchd: Did you download the deb from outrec's website and try to install that in the software center? [14:15] bgardner, yes, thats when it gave me the dependency error [14:16] glitchd: Okay, you should have led with that. Here's the page you need to go to for your next steps: http://outrec.sourceforge.net/support.html [14:16] i got into a problem with ubuntu studio. when i start my laptop i get the message unable to launch startxfce4 x session.. startxfce not found falling back to default [14:16] glitchd: Lower left, the commands to bring in your dependencies. [14:16] bgardner, thank you very much, sry i didnt relay the important information. [14:17] knome, is not that is the same Firefox icon I think [14:17] bgardner, im still getting errors. [14:17] bgardner, is it ok if i pm you so i dont have to spam the room with the output of the command? [14:18] glitchd: Sure [14:21] i turn on the laptop and when i get to the login screen i can log in with my account, as guest or as other. everyway i try i get the> unable to launch startxfce4 x session> startxfce4 not found falling back to default session [14:33] anyone know of a program to record audio straight from the sound card, outrec apparently isnt supported anymore. [16:11] anyone ever seen the keyboard shortcuts stop working, all of them, even the default ones in xubuntu 13.04? === sivik_ is now known as Sivik [16:14] nop but then again that might be a session issue [16:14] PhoenixSTF: I even tried rebooting and no go [16:14] take a look inside .cache or .config [16:15] PhoenixSTF: thx [16:15] Sivik: is xfce4-settings-helper running? [16:15] you have a xfce folder, make a backup and delete the original, it might reset your session. BE ADVISED it will reset almost everything [16:15] removing ~(.cache/sessions and rebooting might help [16:16] The xfce4-settings-helper isn't running [16:16] ~/.cache/sessions [16:16] run it [16:17] I don't have anything called settings-helper [16:17] editor and manager are the only two I have [16:18] hum, I might have remembered it wrong, or it's been renamed [16:18] can't check right now [16:19] actually I can, a couple secs [16:20] yeah, that one is not used anymore [16:21] can you reset hotkeys or add new ones? [18:09] anybody know to setup keyboard shortcuts xubuntu? [18:09] on xubuntu? [18:09] jdhigh9000: Settings->Keyboard->Application Shortcuts [18:10] keyboard settings or window manager settings, depending about your goal [18:10] [bgardner] thanks [18:10] jdhigh9000: Sysi is correct, however - some shortcuts will be under window manager settings [18:12] bgardner: i am just trying to setup some app shortcuts. [18:15] jdhigh9000: Okay, then go with the first answer: Settings->Keyboard->Application shortcuts [18:18] bgardner:okay. no problem. will do. thanks for the assist. [18:18] Sysi:thanks as well. have a good day [18:19] you too [18:19] :) [19:47] why is it that workspace settings doesn't have the number of rows settings? [19:49] Pwnna, why would it? [19:49] Pwnna, try checking the workspaces applet settings. [19:49] i want to have a square like setting [19:49] workspaces-applet? [19:49] right. no, that's not possible. [19:50] but http://docs.xfce.org/_media/xfce/xfce4-panel/pager.png [19:51] sure. that's the applet settings. [19:51] ohh [19:51] i see [19:51] ty! [19:51] no problem [19:52] is it possible to add in the unity like heads up so you know which workspace you're on [19:52] when you move between them [19:52] just a big text in the center showing the name would be nice. [19:52] better if we can get a grid going. [19:52] (which project is this? I can probably help implement that) [19:52] no, i don't think so, but afaik the workspace applet shows you which one that is [19:53] i'd imagine it's something in xfdesktop (but don't take my word for it) [19:53] it's better UX if we showed a big thing like unity. [19:53] should be /relatively/ easy to implement [19:54] technically might be that, socially can be different [19:54] turn it off by default [19:55] it's still more codebase which is sometimes unwanted [19:55] knome: +1 [19:55] i feel like it is a good feature to have. [19:55] however, this is getting offtopic for this channel; i'd recommend asking in #xfce-dev [19:56] Pwnna, sure. that's one for the feature. i'm pretty sure you'll find at least 2 developers against it (not to discourage, but to keep things realistic...) [19:56] why would people be against that feature? [19:56] but okay [19:56] let's move. [22:14] Howdy [22:14] Oh, some texan arrived... :P [22:14] Haha, nahh. Michigander [22:14] Just that cowboy spirit haha [22:16] Installing xubuntu now, coming over from mint. Mint just felt sluggish to me. [22:16] Going to give xubuntu a go, then if it still feels sluggish, lubuntu. [22:18] You dont need to reinstall then. [22:19] I could have just downloaded xfce over my cinnamon mint install couldn't I? [22:19] Eh, new guy mistakes I guess. [22:20] I dont know nuts abouts mint. But having xubuntu, you can just install lubuntu-desktop, and you'll have both, xfce and lxde. [22:20] oh okay [22:20] that will work better than a re-install [22:22] Well, nice chatting bekks. Time to reboot. [22:29] Much quicker so far. === ross_ is now known as johnnywasright [22:30] Is there any one in here that is proficient in wireless networks [22:30] NEED_HELP_PLEASE, what's your problem? [22:31] I have a older laptop that originally came with a hacker friendly version of Windows XP however it was junk I got it for 20 bucks and back to the subject I am attempting to setup a wireless connection on xubuntu and finding it rather difficult [22:32] what kind of wireless card? [22:32] For one reason or another a model similar to this I set it up just fine. This one is hesitant [22:32] BCM5702X [22:33] I checked the compatibility chart. Well, It isn't even listed. I checked the other model and it has the almost exact same card so I am sure it will work. I just can't make it. [22:33] hmm, sorry I am brand new. I was hoping I would be able to help because I struggled with my wireless card. But, I am not sure about that wireless card. [22:34] No worries, The ability to learn is only limited by the knowledge your willing to transmit. [22:35] kingnick42: Do you have any ideas? [22:36] NEED_HELP_PLEASE, does jockey detect it? [22:39] Jockey? I never heard of that term. I may know what your talking about but have no idea what Jockey is [22:57] NEED_HELP_PLEASE, jockey is a program to find drivers [22:59] yes [22:59] it doesnt exist anymore [22:59] you need to access the driver management from the software source settings