[00:00] <Maggie> :)
[00:01] <MrHotsauce> i just recently learned about the shift thing myself literally less then 20 hours ago
[00:01] <Maggie> so did you have the same issue with flash after upgrading?
[00:02] <MrHotsauce> no im having an issue with my headset after upgrade
[00:02] <MrHotsauce> flash is a tad derpy but it works good enough for me to not bother with it
[00:03] <Maggie> Wish I hadn't upgraded now, it boots up slower and probably should have left well enough alone.
[00:04] <Maggie> If it isn't broke....
[00:04] <MrHotsauce> i tend to run the latest versions i would run the 13.10 alpha build but i dont want to reinstall my os
[00:06] <Maggie> I am pretty new to Xubuntu, but it beats Windows for sure
[00:08] <MrHotsauce> ive been using it since......11.10? i think
[00:11] <Maggie> So know I know someone who might be able to help if I find myself in a jam again?
[00:12] <MrHotsauce> i barely know anything xD i just use google alot when i have issues
[00:13] <MrHotsauce> if you cant get help here another place to try would be #ubuntu
[00:17] <Maggie> Cool, thanks for the info.  :)
[00:17] <Maggie> #ubuntu
[00:17] <MrHotsauce> use /join #ubuntu
[00:18] <MrHotsauce> with the slash
[00:18] <Maggie> Sweet!
[00:18] <MrHotsauce> i would reccomend using xchat the built in irc client with xubuntu
[00:19] <Maggie> I think that is where I am at?
[00:20] <Maggie> http://xubuntu.org/irc/
[00:20] <MrHotsauce> naaah
[00:20] <MrHotsauce> thats a web client
[00:20] <MrHotsauce> you have a built in one with xubuntu
[00:21] <Maggie> Ok? Where would I find it?
[00:21] <Maggie> found it
[00:22] <MrHotsauce> it requires a little configuring but def much better then any web client
[00:26] <Maggie> I was able to log in to ubuntu that way
[00:28] <MrHotsauce> you can type /join #xubuntu   in xchat and use xchat in here
[00:28] <Maggie> am underscore maggie too
[00:28] <Maggie> maggie_
[00:28] <MrHotsauce> you can leave the web client
[00:29] <MrHotsauce> then in here  you can do /nick Maggie
[00:29] <MrHotsauce> to change back to normal
[00:30] <Maggie> It seemed to work.  You Rock!  :)
[00:31] <MrHotsauce> mhm you can even set up xchat to auto connect to here when you open it
[00:31] <MrHotsauce> like so http://i.imgur.com/AhR8gtQ.png
[00:39] <Maggie> Awesome! Think I got it changed
[00:40] <Maggie> what is minecraft?
[00:41] <kingnick42> Maggie, tis a game :P
[00:42] <Maggie> Thank you Kingnick42
[00:43] <kingnick42> No problem Maggie
[00:43] <Maggie> Nick? Wondering if you are the same Nick that helped install my system back in February?
[01:02] <Maggie> thanks again for your help MrHotsauce.  take care!
[01:03] <MrHotsauce> no problem take care as well
[02:04] <maitake> can anyone pastebin me a copy of their thunar or file-manager .desktop files?
[02:04] <maitake> deleted mine like a fool :(
[02:04] <maitake> docky's being stubborn with icons
[03:03] <MrHotsauce> maitake: point me to where it is and ill see if i can provide it
[03:13] <xubuntu916> Hello, I just purchased a Lenovo IdeaPad Z580 that shipped with Windows 8 (64 bit). I immediately formatted it and installed Xubuntu 13.04 using LUKS for everything except /boot. When I attempt to boot the system it falls back to the next available boot medium (PXE, USB, etc). I am able to do a chroot into the system after cryptsetup and mounting. Grub appears to be installed correctly. I'd appreciate any help.
[03:17] <well_laid_lawn> !grub
[03:17] <well_laid_lawn> I don't know about luks sorry
[03:19] <xubuntu916> Alright. I wasn't sure if that was strictly a grub thing, or if something with the new secure boot/windows 8 had created different headaches for installing nix OSes.
[03:25] <xubuntu916> When I attempt to install Grub it says that I have no BIOS Boot Partition and its only alternative is to use blocklists (then failing). I remember seeing a BIOS option of that nature in the partitioning system and disregarding it, so I will reinstall with a few MB dedicated to that and see what happens.
[03:40] <nerdtron> hi all!
[04:07] <nerdtron> any good themes for xubuntu?
[04:08] <xubuntu894> hi
[04:23] <xubuntu916> For anyone else who may have the Windows 8/LUKS boot issue, the solution (for me, at least) was to reinstall adding the first partition as BIOS Boot Partition (I used 25 MB, though 5 would probably have been enough). Next I unlocked the encrypted partition and mounted the boot partition inside that, then reinstalled Grub. That seems to work, as I am typing this from the hard drive OS.
[05:44] <jorj> hello. anyone uses xubuntu 12.04? i have an problem with xscreensaver, i think, but can not find any info about my problem. periodically stop working screen locking (xflock). reason - not running xscreensaver. it disappears from process list. i could start it manually ("xscreensaver&" at terminal or at ALT+F2 prompt). i tried ptions to be verbose and to log xscreensaver work, but no error found after process crushed. anyone knows this
[06:10] <nerdtron> i'm using xubuntu..but i'm not using xscreensaver because it looks awful
[06:15] <Sysi> I have heard about xscreensaver crashing when computer is locked, but not when it's on the background
[08:02] <alfonsojon> Hi
[08:02] <alfonsojon> I'm using Xubuntu 13.04 on the Samsung Chromebook
[08:03] <alfonsojon> It works fine but 2D graphics acceleration is horrid
[08:03] <alfonsojon> Even with compisiting disabled, it's lagging when I move windows.
[08:04] <Noskcaj> alfonsojon, have you tried the proprietary drivers?
[08:04] <alfonsojon> jockey-gtk says I have none available
[08:06] <Noskcaj> alfonsojon, ok. maybe try the samsung website or upgrading to 13.10. i can't think of anything else sorry
[08:06] <alfonsojon> Alright, thanks
[08:06] <alfonsojon> Then again, Chromebooks are only meant to run Chrome OS... lol
[08:06] <alfonsojon> wait, you think I could copy the drivers over manually somehow?
[08:07] <alfonsojon> They are both using the same kernel
[08:08] <Noskcaj> alfonsojon, maybe
[09:17] <WalterN> hmm
[09:17] <WalterN> I'm looking at this, having set up dovecot just a bit ago... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix#Other_Postfix_Guides
[09:17] <WalterN> erm
[09:17] <WalterN> I mean postfix
[09:17] <WalterN> s/dovecot/postfix
[09:18] <WalterN> anyway, should I implement all of those for spam filtering? or just one or two?
[09:20] <bekks> "all of those" -. what do you mean?
[09:20] <bekks> Setup what you want to setup.
[09:21] <WalterN> I'm not sure... lol.. somebody else suggested spamassasin
[09:22] <bekks> Then set it up.
[09:35] <xubuntu323> Hello, Concerning:  external hard drive 320GB Western Digital - When trying to open the HD and see the files, I get the message: Error when getting information for file '/media/BACKUP_WD/HP':     Failed to open directory "BACKUP_WD".  Error when getting information for file '/media/BACKUP_WD/HP':
[09:36] <xubuntu323> Failed to open directory "BACKUP_WD".  Error when getting information for file '/media/BACKUP_WD/HP'--Input/output error.
[09:37] <xubuntu323> I am therefore unable to open the directory on this HD. It seems that the folder "HP" has a problem prohibiting the opening of the hard drive.
[09:39] <bekks> Your conclusion is wrong.
[09:40] <bekks> It seems that you get I/O errors when accessing the drive. So check the output of dmesg.
[09:44] <xubuntu323> Thanks, but what I have to look at in the dmesg output?
[09:46] <bekks> Everything unusual.
[10:04] <xubuntu323> To bekks: thanks again but to many lines whose I have no clue --> I cannot find something "unusual".
[10:05] <bekks> xubuntu323: Then pastebin the entire output.
[10:06] <nerdtron> any errors like I/O error in dmesg?
[10:07] <Sysi> error warning or E_ are sings of problem
[10:10] <bekks> Sysi: E_ is pretty seldom in dmesg. E_* are programmatical error messages.
[10:14] <bekks> xubuntu323: So are you going to pastebin the entire dmesg output?
[10:14] <xubuntu323> Yes, it's coming...
[10:16] <xubuntu323> $ dmesg [    0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset [    0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu [    0.000000] Linux version 3.2.0-48-generic (buildd@lamiak) (gcc version 4.6.3 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) ) #74-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 19:45:16 UTC 2013 (Ubuntu 3.2.0-48.74-generic 3.2.46) [    0.000000] KERNEL supported cpus: [    0.000000]   Intel GenuineIntel [    0.000000]   AMD AuthenticAMD [    0.000000]   NSC Geode 
[10:17] <nerdtron> xubuntu323: is it just a single folder you can't access or the whole drive?
[10:17] <xubuntu323> $ dmesg [    0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset [    0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu [    0.000000] Linux version 3.2.0-48-generic (buildd@lamiak) (gcc version 4.6.3 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) ) #74-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 19:45:16 UTC 2013 (Ubuntu 3.2.0-48.74-generic 3.2.46) [    0.000000] KERNEL supported cpus: [    0.000000]   Intel GenuineIntel [    0.000000]   AMD AuthenticAMD [    0.000000]   NSC Geode 
[10:18] <bekks> xubuntu323: This channel is not a pastebin.
[10:18] <bekks> !pastebin | xubuntu323
[10:21] <xubuntu323> To nerdtron: with xubuntu, I cannot access the entire drive; with win xp, I can access the drive except the folder "HP" which seems to be corrupted.
[10:21] <bekks> xubuntu323: You have I/O errors, not corrupted folders :)
[10:24] <bekks> xubuntu323: So are you going to pastebin the entire dmesg output?
[10:24] <nerdtron> if it is I/O errors, it could mean a damaged hard drive. sorry but your drive could be failing already
[10:25] <Sysi> it's backup time
[10:26] <Sysi> you can try checking drive health with S.M.A.R.T https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools
[10:26] <bekks> Backup time has already passed - no backup means no data worth to be kept.
[10:26] <bekks> First, pastebin dmesg. :)
[10:30] <xubuntu323> bekks: sorry for the delay, I am still trying.
[10:31] <bekks> !pastebinit | xubuntu323
[10:40] <bekks> xubuntu323: So will you finally pastebin the requested information after 35 minutes of waiting? If not, I can get back to others things to be done.
[10:42] <xubuntu323> No, sorry, it's not done because I am discovering the pastebinit system.
[10:42] <bekks> Ok, then good luck in solving your I/O error issues.
[10:42] <xubuntu323> Go back to your activities. Thanks anyway. I will try later.
[11:38] <meditator> hello,
[11:39] <meditator> when i double click a scrip, it just runs without a warning. Is it possible to get a prompt with options like "run in terminal" "Display" etc ? Thanks for your help
[11:39] <meditator> *script
[11:40] <baizon> meditator: create a launcher which runs in terminal :)
[11:41] <meditator> baizon, its not for a specific file.. i mean all executable files marked as executable, when i double click them, can i get an option which says "run in terminal" "Display" etc ?
[11:42] <nerdtron> meditator: now that you say it, i remember we have that option in ubuntu
[11:42] <baizon> meditator: something like this? http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=7779
[11:43] <nerdtron> but not xubuntu
[11:44] <meditator> nerdtron,  yes.. i too used it in ubuntu
[11:45] <nerdtron> baizon: good link
[11:45] <meditator> baizon, thanks a lot.. thats exactly what i needed...
[11:45] <baizon> nerdtron: thank you
[11:45] <baizon> meditator: np :)
[11:48] <xubuntu323> If  bekks is still there, you will find a link to the dmseg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5976994/plain/
[11:50] <xubuntu323> By the way, I still have an error when trying to open an external  HD connected - Error when getting information for file '/media/BACKUP_WD/HP': Input/output error.
[11:50] <bekks> xubuntu323: Yes. And as can be perfectly seen, the filesystem on that drive is corrupted.
[11:50] <bekks> Since it is a Windows filesystem, use Windows to fix it.
[12:02] <xubuntu323> OK, thanks, bye.
[12:20] <meditator> baizon, i still have not been able to change the default action when double-clicking a shell script. It just executes. Is it possible to open it in a text editor, and if i want to run it, i can right click and click execute ?
[13:25] <soman1> Xubuntu 12.04 Elements of the panel (time, language and fast launch) are not displayed. Is any ways to fix it?
[14:01] <Guest20270> Hello
[14:01] <bgardner> Guest20270: Hello
[14:01] <glitchd> hello all
[14:02] <glitchd> trying to install outrec in xubuntu 13.04
[14:03] <Guest20270> I am using Xubuntu 13.04 and I have some questions: 1.- I am using Whisker menu why the firefox icons looks so tiny? and why it makes a HD checking at every boot?
[14:03] <glitchd> getting a dependency error with gambas "dependency not satisfiable: gambas2-runtime (>=1.9.48)
[14:05] <glitchd> ummm...anyone alive?
[14:05] <bgardner> glitchd: We're alive, but in your case we need more information.
[14:06] <bgardner> glitchd: What was your command line for the install?
[14:06] <glitchd> bgardner, ok, i was attempting to install outrec from the software center but im getting a dependency error
[14:07] <glitchd> getting a dependency error with gambas "dependency not satisfiable: gambas2-runtime (>=1.9.48)
[14:07] <bgardner> glitchd: One moment while I look it up.
[14:07] <glitchd> thx i appreciate the help
[14:11] <glitchd> bgardner, any luck thus far?
[14:11] <bgardner> glitchd: Not yet, still looking.
[14:12] <glitchd> mmk
[14:14] <glitchd> bgardner, im running ubuntu 1304 with the xubuntu desktop.
[14:15] <knome> Guest20270, you should seek support from whisker menu developers
[14:15] <bgardner> glitchd: Did you download the deb from outrec's website and try to install that in the software center?
[14:15] <glitchd> bgardner, yes, thats when it gave me the dependency error
[14:16] <bgardner> glitchd: Okay, you should have led with that.  Here's the page you need to go to for your next steps: http://outrec.sourceforge.net/support.html
[14:16] <caodepalha> i got into a problem with ubuntu studio. when i start my laptop i get the message unable to launch startxfce4 x session.. startxfce not found falling back to default
[14:16] <bgardner> glitchd: Lower left, the commands to bring in your dependencies.
[14:16] <glitchd> bgardner, thank you very much, sry i didnt relay the important information.
[14:17] <Guest20270> knome, is not that is the same Firefox icon I think
[14:17] <glitchd> bgardner, im still getting errors.
[14:17] <glitchd> bgardner, is it ok if i pm you so i dont have to spam the room with the output of the command?
[14:18] <bgardner> glitchd: Sure
[14:21] <caodepalha> i turn on the laptop and when i get to the login screen i can log in with my account, as guest or as other. everyway i try i get the> unable to launch startxfce4 x session> startxfce4 not found falling back to default session
[14:33] <glitchd> anyone know of a program to record audio straight from the sound card, outrec apparently isnt supported anymore.
[16:11] <sivik_> anyone ever seen the keyboard shortcuts stop working, all of them, even the default ones in xubuntu 13.04?
[16:14] <PhoenixSTF> nop but then again that might be a session issue
[16:14] <Sivik> PhoenixSTF: I even tried rebooting and no go
[16:14] <PhoenixSTF> take a look inside .cache or .config
[16:15] <Sivik> PhoenixSTF: thx
[16:15] <Sysi> Sivik: is xfce4-settings-helper running?
[16:15] <PhoenixSTF> you have a xfce folder, make a backup and delete the original, it might reset your session. BE ADVISED it will reset almost everything
[16:15] <Sysi> removing ~(.cache/sessions and rebooting might help
[16:16] <Sivik> The xfce4-settings-helper isn't running
[16:16] <Sysi> ~/.cache/sessions
[16:16] <Sysi> run it
[16:17] <Sivik> I don't have anything called settings-helper
[16:17] <Sivik> editor and manager are the only two I have
[16:18] <Sysi> hum, I might have remembered it wrong, or it's been renamed
[16:18] <Sysi> can't check right now
[16:19] <Sysi> actually I can, a couple secs
[16:20] <Sysi> yeah, that one is not used anymore
[16:21] <Sysi> can you reset hotkeys or add new ones?
[18:09] <jdhigh9000> anybody know to setup keyboard shortcuts xubuntu?
[18:09] <jdhigh9000> on xubuntu?
[18:09] <bgardner> jdhigh9000: Settings->Keyboard->Application Shortcuts
[18:10] <Sysi> keyboard settings or window manager settings, depending about your goal
[18:10] <jdhigh9000> [bgardner] thanks
[18:10] <bgardner> jdhigh9000: Sysi is correct, however - some shortcuts will be under window manager settings
[18:12] <jdhigh9000> bgardner: i am just trying to setup some app shortcuts.
[18:15] <bgardner> jdhigh9000: Okay, then go with the first answer: Settings->Keyboard->Application shortcuts
[18:18] <jdhigh9000> bgardner:okay. no problem. will do. thanks for the assist.
[18:18] <jdhigh9000> Sysi:thanks as well. have a good day
[18:19] <Sysi> you too
[18:19] <jdhigh9000> :)
[19:47] <Pwnna> why is it that workspace settings doesn't have the number of rows settings?
[19:49] <knome> Pwnna, why would it?
[19:49] <knome> Pwnna, try checking the workspaces applet settings.
[19:49] <Pwnna> i want to have a square like setting
[19:49] <Pwnna> workspaces-applet?
[19:49] <knome> right. no, that's not possible.
[19:50] <Pwnna> but http://docs.xfce.org/_media/xfce/xfce4-panel/pager.png
[19:51] <knome> sure. that's the applet settings.
[19:51] <Pwnna> ohh
[19:51] <Pwnna> i see
[19:51] <Pwnna> ty!
[19:51] <knome> no problem
[19:52] <Pwnna> is it possible to add in the unity like heads up so you know which workspace you're on
[19:52] <Pwnna> when you move between them
[19:52] <Pwnna> just a big text in the center showing the name would be nice.
[19:52] <Pwnna> better if we can get a grid going.
[19:52] <Pwnna> (which project is this? I can probably help implement that)
[19:52] <knome> no, i don't think so, but afaik the workspace applet shows you which one that is
[19:53] <knome> i'd imagine it's something in xfdesktop (but don't take my word for it)
[19:53] <Pwnna> it's better UX if we showed a big thing like unity.
[19:53] <Pwnna> should be /relatively/ easy to implement
[19:54] <knome> technically might be that, socially can be different
[19:54] <Pwnna> turn it off by default
[19:55] <knome> it's still more codebase which is sometimes unwanted
[19:55] <bgardner> knome: +1
[19:55] <Pwnna> i feel like it is a good feature to have.
[19:55] <knome> however, this is getting offtopic for this channel; i'd recommend asking in #xfce-dev
[19:56] <knome> Pwnna, sure. that's one for the feature. i'm pretty sure you'll find at least 2 developers against it (not to discourage, but to keep things realistic...)
[19:56] <Pwnna> why would people be against that feature?
[19:56] <Pwnna> but okay
[19:56] <Pwnna> let's move.
[22:14] <JWR_> Howdy
[22:14] <bekks> Oh, some texan arrived... :P
[22:14] <JWR_> Haha, nahh. Michigander
[22:14] <JWR_> Just that cowboy spirit haha
[22:16] <JWR_> Installing xubuntu now, coming over from mint. Mint just felt sluggish to me.
[22:16] <JWR_> Going to give xubuntu a go, then if it still feels sluggish, lubuntu.
[22:18] <bekks> You dont need to reinstall then.
[22:19] <JWR_> I could have just downloaded xfce over my cinnamon mint install couldn't I?
[22:19] <JWR_> Eh, new guy mistakes I guess.
[22:20] <bekks> I dont know nuts abouts mint. But having xubuntu, you can just install lubuntu-desktop, and you'll have both, xfce and lxde.
[22:20] <JWR_> oh okay
[22:20] <JWR_> that will work better than a re-install
[22:22] <JWR_> Well, nice chatting bekks. Time to reboot.
[22:29] <ross_> Much quicker so far.
[22:30] <NEED_HELP_PLEASE> Is there any one in here that is proficient in wireless networks
[22:30] <kingnick42> NEED_HELP_PLEASE, what's your problem?
[22:31] <NEED_HELP_PLEASE> I have a older laptop that originally came with a hacker friendly version of Windows XP however it was junk I got it for 20 bucks and back to the subject I am attempting to setup a wireless connection on xubuntu and finding it rather difficult
[22:32] <johnnywasright> what kind of wireless card?
[22:32] <NEED_HELP_PLEASE> For one reason or another a model similar to this I set it up just fine. This one is hesitant
[22:32] <NEED_HELP_PLEASE> BCM5702X
[22:33] <NEED_HELP_PLEASE> I checked the compatibility chart. Well, It isn't even listed. I checked the other model and it has the almost exact same card so I am sure it will work. I just can't make it.
[22:33] <johnnywasright> hmm, sorry I am brand new. I was hoping I would be able to help because I struggled with my wireless card. But, I am not sure about that wireless card.
[22:34] <NEED_HELP_PLEASE>  No worries, The ability to learn is only limited by the knowledge your willing to transmit.
[22:35] <NEED_HELP_PLEASE> kingnick42: Do you have any ideas?
[22:36] <kingnick42> NEED_HELP_PLEASE, does jockey detect it?
[22:39] <NEED_HELP_PLEASE> Jockey? I never heard of that term. I may know what your talking about but have no idea what Jockey is
[22:57] <kingnick42> NEED_HELP_PLEASE, jockey is a program to find drivers
[22:59] <GridCube> yes
[22:59] <GridCube> it doesnt exist anymore
[22:59] <GridCube> you need to access the driver management from the software source settings