| jussi | morning all | 05:16 |
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| jussi | can someone help me with graphics at all? I need the Kubuntu logo to be White letters, not black... (for embroidery on Navy blue). | 05:19 |
| Tm_T | jussi: the whole logo? | 05:38 |
| jussi | Tm_T: yes | 05:38 |
| Tm_T | jussi: where's the source you're using? | 05:38 |
| jussi | Tm_T: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuArtwork | 05:38 |
| Tm_T | ha, was on that page already, thanks | 05:39 |
| jussi | :) | 05:39 |
| Tm_T | jussi: what format you need? | 05:39 |
| jussi | Tm_T: a decently large PNG should be fine | 05:40 |
| Tm_T | jussi: does the gears need to be reversed in colours too? | 05:40 |
| jussi | Tm_T: no | 05:40 |
| jussi | just the back letters white | 05:40 |
| Tm_T | so only the text, one moment I'll save this | 05:40 |
| jussi | Tm_T: see this: http://jontheechidna.wordpress.com/2012/12/23/kubuntu-shirt-flu/ | 05:41 |
| Tm_T | ah, yes | 05:42 |
| Tm_T | jussi: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/kubuntu-logo-lucid-1.png | 05:45 |
| Tm_T | transparent background, white text | 05:45 |
| jussi | Tm_T: thank you sir! | 05:46 |
| Tm_T | jussi: I simply opened svg on karbon, clicked the text, picked white colour, exported png | 05:47 |
| jussi | Tm_T: hehe... that would require me to even know that it was karbon needed to open svgs... :D | 05:48 |
| Tm_T | jussi: oh no, I simply opened the file and it was opened in karbon, first time for me to use karbon at all | 05:48 |
| jussi | ahh ok | 05:48 |
| jussi | Guess my lack of kofffeeeeeeeeeee is showing me up | 05:49 |
| Tm_T | this is how technology should work, you don't have to pick tools, they're just there for you (: | 05:49 |
| jussi | yup | 05:49 |
| Tm_T | hmmmm, I wonder... | 05:50 |
| Tm_T | I'll try do the same edit with vim just for the giggles | 05:50 |
| Tm_T | let's make it red | 06:00 |
| jussi | hehe | 06:00 |
| soee | good morning | 06:12 |
| jussi | morning soee? | 06:13 |
| jussi | err, without the ? | 06:13 |
| jussi | :P | 06:13 |
| soee | yes morning jussi :D | 06:13 |
| soee | its 8:15 -.- | 06:14 |
| jussi | mornings... | 06:14 |
| soee | :) | 06:17 |
| baltolkien | Goog Morning | 06:44 |
| jussi | Riddell: one final detail: What sizes did you order? Im thinking to go S:5, M:5, L:10, XL:5. | 07:28 |
| Tm_T | jussi: all male shirts at this point? | 07:35 |
| jussi | Tm_T: yeah, its too small a number for female ones, unfortunately. Its not I didnt think of it, but its not going to work for this order | 07:36 |
| Tm_T | I agree, unfortunately | 07:37 |
| Tm_T | jussi: let me know when female cuts are available | 07:37 |
| Tm_T | preferably both small and large sizes | 07:37 |
| jussi | Tm_T: when/if these sell out, I expect female will be next on the agenda. This is really about testing the waters | 07:38 |
| Tm_T | yup | 07:38 |
| jussi | Making sure the systems work etc | 07:38 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: kinda, I'm more actively looking at things to do in Frameworks to do for sure | 08:19 |
| tester56 | hi i have downloaded kde-style-oxygen and all it's dependencies, copied oxygen.so to /usr/lib32/kde4/plugins/styles and determined all needed libaries with "ldd". It finds all libaries now (copied to /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu) | 09:09 |
| tester56 | I am on a 64 bit system and want to use 32 bit qt apps like skpye with oxygen style | 09:09 |
| tester56 | switching to gtk as layout is not an option for me (it would use oxygen-gtk then) | 09:10 |
| tester56 | so i started skype using "QT_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/lib32/kde4/plugins/styles/ skype" but i can't select oxygen | 09:11 |
| tester56 | has anybody an idea what does not work? | 09:11 |
| tester56 | i have heared this working from many sources, http://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Enabling-oxygen-style-in-Skype-on-64-bit-systems-is-WAY-TOO-HARD/td-p/1695840 is one of them | 09:12 |
| tester56 | i downloaded the packages from repo using sudo aptitude -o APT::Architecture="i386" download | 09:13 |
| shadeslayer | how odd | 09:15 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: I haven't signed your keys? | 09:15 |
| yofel | hm, no, at least here it doesn't say so | 09:16 |
| tester56 | i have solved it :-)))) | 09:18 |
| tester56 | in ~/.config/Trolltech.conf wa an entry "[Qt%20Plugin%20Cache%204.8.false]" | 09:19 |
| tester56 | i have removed it and restarted skype ... everything looks fine | 09:19 |
| === Oli`` is now known as Oli | ||
| tester56 | it would be nice if there was a package to install oxygen 32 on 64 bit | 09:20 |
| tester56 | are there any plans to package something like this? | 09:23 |
| tester56 | i have wps office running which is also a qt 32 bit application ... but it does not use oxygen ... it works for skype though now | 09:26 |
| tester56 | is there any way to establish the reason why it does not work? | 09:27 |
| tester56 | on a 32 bit system theming works fine | 09:27 |
| tester56 | which oxygen libary is responsible for the color scheme? | 09:33 |
| smartboyhw | Hey Kubuntu people | 10:09 |
| * smartboyhw blames yofel and shadeslayer and Riddell of not replying to the e-mail | 10:09 | |
| yofel | I'll try to do that later today | 10:26 |
| yofel | smartboyhw: want to update nepomuk and marble in the meantime? | 10:26 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, uh, I can do it 1-2 hours later | 10:27 |
| yofel | sure | 10:30 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, to confirm: I'm supposed to use the 4.11.0a versions for nepomuk and marble? | 10:33 |
| vHanda | *nepomuk-core | 10:33 |
| smartboyhw | Yeah | 10:34 |
| === who_da_fly is now known as superfly | ||
| yofel | smartboyhw: yes | 10:50 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, sure | 10:50 |
| === dpm_ is now known as dpm | ||
| Riddell | ScottK: ah hah, well it doesn't much cover me but I would like to look at getting them co-installable | 11:13 |
| * shadeslayer was doing paperwork all day today | 11:20 | |
| shadeslayer | I can only reply tomorrow I think | 11:20 |
| shadeslayer | or maybe on the 15th since I have a holiday on that day | 11:21 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, OK;) | 11:42 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, uploading nepomuk-core | 12:00 |
| Riddell | hmm, lots of blue http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.11.0_raring.html | 12:09 |
| yofel | kde4libs had failed without reason, I restarted it earlier | 12:22 |
| jussi | have we all seen the youtube easter egg? (probably old, but I just found it) if you havent, go to a video, pause it and type 1980 :D | 12:44 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, marble uploading | 12:45 |
| yofel | thanks! | 12:47 |
| yofel | could you update raring too while at it? Should be as simple as running the default hook and adding the changelog entry | 12:48 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, default hook = ？ | 12:48 |
| yofel | backport-hooks/stable/raring | 12:49 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, either I'm stupid or I just can't see a raring hook | 12:49 |
| yofel | checkout too old? | 12:49 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, probably:( | 12:50 |
| smartboyhw | Unfortunately, I am doing this alongside a full -j4 kernel build, so it will take some time:p | 12:50 |
| yofel | well, there's no hurry | 12:53 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: nothing happpens | 12:54 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: seeks back to the beginning | 12:54 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: you failed then. 1980 | 12:54 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, where is the 13.04 PPA? kubuntu-ppa/staging? | 12:55 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: open http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYXz1hE_bWc and try it, perhaps ad supported doesnt work or something | 12:55 |
| yofel | no, ninjas now, see pad | 12:56 |
| yofel | which reminds me that I should purge the 13.04 stuff from staging | 12:56 |
| === smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.10.97 saucy/archive raring/beta quantal/staging precise/beta/read_notes_on_pad | 4.11.0 saucy+raring/ninjas | 13.10 Alpha 2 released | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj | | ||
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas 4.11.0 saucy+raring/ninjas | 13.10 Alpha 2 released | 13.10 milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://goo.gl/vHRjj | | ||
| Riddell | time to move on from 4.10.97 | 12:57 |
| shadeslayer | haha | 12:58 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: I think it only works with flash vids | 12:58 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: yeah, I dunno, but its a good one | 12:58 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: seems like the focus cant be on the video element then it works | 13:02 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, I've done nepomuk-core to raring | 13:07 |
| tester56 | hi again: How to make Trolltech.conf use 32 bit oxygen for 32 bit apps and 64 bit oxygen for 64 bit apps? | 13:07 |
| tester56 | I can delete .config/Trolltech.conf | 13:07 |
| tester56 | when I start a 32 bit app then 32 bit apps use oxygen but not 64 bit and vice versa | 13:08 |
| tester56 | exporting QT_PLUGIN_PATH for the app has no impact | 13:11 |
| Riddell | yofel: shall I use the backport script to upload 4.11 into ninjas or is there more stuff needing done for the LTS bits there? | 13:12 |
| yofel | the backport script should work fine for precise | 13:13 |
| yofel | I think I reverted all of the mesa changes I had in there | 13:13 |
| yofel | for that matter, I installed precise on a SD card over the weekend and ran 4.10.97 on my intel notebook here. Worked fine. | 13:14 |
| Riddell | tester56: I don't think I understand your issue | 13:14 |
| Riddell | tester56: you're using kde plasma or another desktop? | 13:14 |
| tester56 | i have manually install all 32 bit libaries needed for oxygen.so | 13:14 |
| yofel | So considering the amount of people that actually use it I think we can live with the occasional mesa 8 issue, and recommend the HWE stack in those cases | 13:14 |
| tester56 | Riddell: kde plasma | 13:15 |
| yofel | need to send martin a mail though as that's not what we agreed on | 13:15 |
| tester56 | Riddell: problem is 32 bit apps like skype can't use oxygen | 13:15 |
| Riddell | yofel: so no HW enablement backports by default? | 13:16 |
| yofel | no, at least not as upgrade | 13:16 |
| tester56 | Riddell: So I have downloaded kde-style-oxygen and copied oxygen.so to /usr/lib32/kde4/plugins/styles | 13:16 |
| tester56 | Riddell: (32 bit version) | 13:17 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, can you fix marble in 13.10? | 13:17 |
| * smartboyhw does not have time, sorry | 13:17 | |
| tester56 | Riddell: then I determined all required libaries using ldd | 13:17 |
| tester56 | now Trolltech.conf only lets me set either 32 bit oxygen or 64 bit oxygen | 13:18 |
| yofel | I don't see how oxygen here is fixable without multiarch-ing kde-style-oxygen. Which doesn't sound trivial at all | 13:19 |
| tester56 | is multiarch planned for the future? | 13:20 |
| smartboyhw | tester56, probably... | 13:20 |
| yofel | not the near future | 13:20 |
| tester56 | the stuff i did should work: http://chakra-project.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?pid=61765 | 13:21 |
| yofel | the path should be /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/kde4/plugins/styles btw. for us, we have no lib32 | 13:21 |
| shadeslayer | whats up | 13:22 |
| yofel | smartboyhw: no time to fix marble either, sorry | 13:22 |
| shadeslayer | wasn't marble respun | 13:22 |
| shadeslayer | same for nepomuk-core | 13:22 |
| shadeslayer | were they re-uploaded? | 13:23 |
| yofel | they were | 13:23 |
| shadeslayer | awesome | 13:23 |
| yofel | now marble complains about | 13:23 |
| yofel | dh_install: libmarblewidget16 missing files (usr/lib/libmarblewidget.so.0.15.*), aborting | 13:23 |
| yofel | weird | 13:23 |
| shadeslayer | what needs doing raring? | 13:23 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, marble | 13:23 |
| yofel | fix saucy first | 13:23 |
| yofel | kopete failed too | 13:23 |
| shadeslayer | looking at kopete | 13:23 |
| shadeslayer | can someone QA ktp from my PPA? | 13:24 |
| shadeslayer | for raring | 13:24 |
| shadeslayer | and kscreen | 13:25 |
| shadeslayer | stuff to QA just keeps piling up :< | 13:25 |
| tester56 | yofel: that path does not work either | 13:25 |
| yofel | well, the default qt plugin path does not respect multiarch folders so I'm not surprised | 13:26 |
| tester56 | yofel: I can have oxygen, but only either for 32 bit or 64 bit (at least with autogenerated Trolltech.conf) | 13:26 |
| tester56 | I don't know what I should edit | 13:27 |
| shadeslayer | ufff | 13:27 |
| * yofel wonders how qt5 handles that | 13:27 | |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw: next time plz mention the KDE bug instead of a direct patch to the link plz | 13:27 |
| tester56 | both paths (32 bit one and 64 bit one show up in the config file) | 13:27 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, what? | 13:27 |
| shadeslayer | [ Howard Chan ] | 13:27 |
| shadeslayer | * Introduce patch at http://bugsfiles.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=80534 | 13:27 |
| shadeslayer | to fix audio_stream | 13:27 |
| shadeslayer | in kopete | 13:27 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, my fault, sorry;p | 13:28 |
| yofel | another complain: the patch name is missing | 13:28 |
| shadeslayer | do you remember the the bug number? | 13:28 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, /me searches | 13:28 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, no name from upstream, it's an attachment of the bug | 13:28 |
| yofel | smartboyhw: I mean the file name in debian/patches/ | 13:28 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, oh, sorry | 13:29 |
| yofel | otherwise I have almost no way to find out *when* a patch was added | 13:29 |
| shadeslayer | plus would be nice to have dep 3 formatted patches | 13:29 |
| shadeslayer | but that's a dream for now | 13:29 |
| yofel | dep3 is strongly recommended for non-git-format-patch patches really | 13:30 |
| shadeslayer | *nod* | 13:30 |
| smartboyhw | Uh, obviously I forgotten that, I do include these normally:( | 13:30 |
| shadeslayer | fwiw I think smartboyhw's patch causes the failiure | 13:31 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, Bug 318825 | 13:31 |
| ubottu | bug 318825 in ebox-ntp (Ubuntu) "Please upgrade ebox-ntp to 0.12" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/318825 | 13:31 |
| smartboyhw | Um, KDE:P | 13:31 |
| yofel | kde 318825 | 13:31 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 318825 in Jabber Plugin "build failed against ortp-0.21.1" [Normal,Confirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318825 | 13:31 |
| smartboyhw | I think so, I forgotten.................. | 13:31 |
| smartboyhw | That's what upstream directed me to... | 13:31 |
| shadeslayer | it most certainly touches the exact same code that fails to compile | 13:31 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, eh, I asked in #kopete and they pointed me to there:( | 13:32 |
| * smartboyhw blames upsteram. | 13:33 | |
| * yofel blames smartboyhw for not noticing that it failed to build | 13:34 | |
| * smartboyhw did not see the failure e-mails, sorry | 13:34 | |
| * shadeslayer points to policy | 13:36 | |
| yofel | I tried to build kopete against ortp-0.21.1 and mediastreamer-2.9.0 which are part of linphone 3.6 beta1. | 13:36 |
| yofel | from the bug | 13:36 |
| yofel | we have 3.5.2-10 | 13:36 |
| yofel | so the patch doesn't apply for us | 13:36 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, :O but I asked in #kopete and they told me that. I should copy down the logs.. | 13:37 |
| smartboyhw | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5981197/ | 13:38 |
| smartboyhw | (Next time I should NOT be fooled:(...) | 13:39 |
| yofel | smartboyhw: ok, I know what happened | 13:41 |
| yofel | we indeed had the newer linphone, but Scott removed that from the archive because of debian bug 716855 | 13:41 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 716855 in libucommon-dev "libucomon-dev: Dependency on libgnutls28-dev makes sflphone unbuildable" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/716855 | 13:41 |
| yofel | that patch should really have an #ifdef with the version | 13:42 |
| shadeslayer | note that the patch is on bugzilla, it's just meant to be a stop gap measure and is not a 'real' patch :P | 13:43 |
| yofel | true | 13:45 |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw: something for the future, don't drop patches from bugzilla | 13:46 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, OK | 13:46 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: did you make use of the wifi dongle ? :P | 13:47 |
| shadeslayer | removing smartboyhw's patch makes it compile :) | 13:48 |
| yofel | not yet, I want to use it for the raspi, but I never actually get to move that | 13:48 |
| shadeslayer | heh, my raspi is currently in it's box | 13:48 |
| shadeslayer | might set it up once I move to the office | 13:48 |
| yofel | mine is running... doing nothing | 13:49 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 13:49 |
| shadeslayer | I might use it to self host mykolab | 13:49 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: https://plus.google.com/photos/112529497463297468627/albums/5911300498495945937/5911300497362610162?pid=5911300497362610162&oid=112529497463297468627 | 13:50 |
| yofel | what's that red hat doing there? :P | 13:51 |
| shadeslayer | that's what you noticed? I sort of noticed the gtk equivalent of kscreen :P | 13:52 |
| shadeslayer | *sort of first | 13:52 |
| yofel | i was wondering what that was, thanks for clearing that up (looked vaguely familiar ^^) | 13:53 |
| shadeslayer | well ... it *looks* like the gtk equivalent of kscreen, I'm not sure myself ;) | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | kopete fixed in ppa/bzr | 13:55 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, yofel (et. al): Deeply sorry for wasting your time:( | 13:55 |
| yofel | uh, didn't we just figure out that it's not your fault? | 13:56 |
| yofel | well, you could've known what caused it though | 13:56 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, yeah, that's why I have to apologise:( | 13:56 |
| yofel | in any case, nvm | 13:56 |
| smartboyhw | DAMN | 13:57 |
| smartboyhw | :P | 13:57 |
| * smartboyhw is making the linux-rt package while tracking on the aproaching typhoon... | 13:58 | |
| shadeslayer | yofel: I know why marble is failing | 14:01 |
| shadeslayer | -- Installing: /build/buildd/marble-4.11.0a/debian/tmp/usr/lib/libmarblewidget.so.0.16.0 | 14:01 |
| shadeslayer | the regex is too old :P | 14:01 |
| Quintasan | smartboyhw: What IM are you using? | 14:02 |
| smartboyhw | Quintasan, XChat | 14:02 |
| Quintasan | smartboyhw: I'm asking about input method selector | 14:03 |
| smartboyhw | Quintasan, IBus？ | 14:03 |
| smartboyhw | Why? | 14:03 |
| Quintasan | smartboyhw: Is that a question or answer? | 14:03 |
| smartboyhw | Quintasan, IBus is the answer, why is the question:P | 14:03 |
| Quintasan | Oh, I wanted someone competent (as in "I actually know what the hell I'm typing") to test fcitx with Chinese | 14:04 |
| Quintasan | While typing at random is generally a good test case for "Does it work" it's not good for anything else. | 14:04 |
| * smartboyhw likes IBus, sorry:P | 14:05 | |
| Quintasan | smartboyhw: Can you just give it a go? | 14:07 |
| smartboyhw | Quintasan, no time sorry | 14:08 |
| Quintasan | Okay. | 14:08 |
| shadeslayer | 4.11 should be all fixed up | 14:17 |
| shadeslayer | be back later | 14:18 |
| Quintasan | smartboyhw: Do you happen to know any Chinese Kubuntu users who could try fcitix for a while? | 14:30 |
| smartboyhw | Quintasan, NO. | 14:31 |
| Quintasan | Ah well. | 14:31 |
| smartboyhw | Quintasan, Chinese users will rather use UbuntuKylin now... | 14:31 |
| shadeslayer | you can't say that definitely | 14:42 |
| shadeslayer | what if the chinese secret agency is using Kubuntu everywhere | 14:42 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan doesn't want to piss them off | 14:42 |
| Quintasan | lol | 14:48 |
| Quintasan | toplel theory :D | 14:49 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, you know that UbuntuKylin is actually developed by the governernment itself!?Q | 14:54 |
| shadeslayer | so ... UbuntuKylin spies on it's users, and if it's users are the secret service, the spy agency spies on itself? recursive spying? :D | 14:55 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, can't it? | 14:56 |
| shadeslayer | I wouldn't know the first thing about spying | 14:56 |
| yofel | spying on yourself is called making backups | 14:58 |
| smartboyhw | yofel, +1 | 14:58 |
| Riddell | yofel: what's your current practice for symbols files on backports? | 16:36 |
| Riddell | I've always just deleted the symbols files on backports if they cause problems | 16:37 |
| Riddell | although it doesn't fail to build I'm getting confused by it being red on build_status page | 16:52 |
| yofel | Riddell: same here, the precise hook even does that. Should be added to the others too IMO | 17:12 |
| Riddell | cor, blue http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.11.0_precise.html | 17:37 |
| jussi | Riddell: you are awesome :D | 18:55 |
| * Riddell sits back in satisfaction of being awesome | 19:02 | |
| Riddell | jussi: wait, what am I awesome for just now? | 19:02 |
| Riddell | sweet, setting up a network printer is just as easy as a local one | 19:34 |
| Riddell | trouble is easy doesn't include it pre-selecting the driver | 19:34 |
| Riddell | looks like sources are available http://download.kde.org/stable/4.11.0/src/ | 20:37 |
| Riddell | any objections to uploading 4.11 tonight to saucy? | 20:38 |
| soee | nope :) | 20:38 |
| Riddell | raring needs a few more bits compiling then probably mable/nepomuk updated then testing | 20:39 |
| soee | also request for raring -.- | 20:39 |
| Riddell | precise needs lots more bits compiling | 20:39 |
| Riddell | soee: i386 is done if you want to test htat | 20:39 |
| Riddell | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.11.0_raring.html | 20:39 |
| soee | im on 64 | 20:40 |
| Riddell | mostly done | 20:41 |
| soee | im here 2 more hours if its ready i can test, if not i can do it tomorrow | 20:42 |
| Riddell | damn ninjas is 15.3 GiB (100.00%) of 15.0 GiB | 21:49 |
| soee | ;] | 22:11 |
| yofel | it still has 4.10.5 for quantal, let me wipe that | 22:14 |
| yofel | though most of the space probably goes to old raring and precise packages | 22:15 |
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